PL 06/23/1982 - 6778PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
City of Fridley
A6ENDA
WEDNESDAY, JUNE 23, 1982
APPROVE PLANP�IN6 COMMISSION MINUTES: JUNE 9, 1982
1. PUBLIC HEARIN6: CONSIDER�ATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP
82-07, BY GERALD HARTMAN: Per section 205.131, 3, A, 2, to_
allow an auto auction on the North 240 feet of the Southeast
Quarter of the Northeast Quarter of Section 3, the same being
8290 Main Street N.E.
7:30 P.M.
PAGES
1 - 11
12 - 13
2. VACATION REQUEST, SAV #82-01, BY THE FRIDLEY HOUSING & REDE- 14 - 17
VELOPMENT AUTHORITY: Vacate 4th Street betv�een Blocks 4 and 5,
and the 12 foot alley in Block 4, Ree's Addition to Fridley
Park. (Block 5 alley vacated Ordinance 208) (balance of
streets and alleys from Mississippi to 64th Avenue vacated
February 23, 1953 in Book 292, Page 219, Anoka County Records).
3. RECEIVE HUMAN RESOURCES CO�M1ISSION MINUTES: JUNE 10, 1982
4. RECEIVE COMMUNITY DEUELOPMENT C014MISSI�N MINUTES: JUNE 8, 1982
5. RECEI4E APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: JUNE 15, 1982
6. RECEIUE PARKS & RECREATION COMt4ISSI0N MINUTES: JUNE l, 1982
7. OTHER BUSINESS:
ADJdURNMENT:
SALMON
PIPJK
YELLOIJ
GREEN
CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNIN6 COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 9, 1982
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairwanan Schnabel called the June 9, 1982, Planning Commission meeting to
order at 7:35 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Oquist, Ms. Gabel, Mr. Kondrick, Ms. van Dan,
Mr, Saba
Members Absent: Mr, Svanda
Others Present: Bill Deblon, Associate Planner
Steven Hardel, 336 - 64th Ave. N.E.
Patty Hardel, 332 - 64th Ave. N.E.
W. G. Doty, 175 Logan Parkway N.E.
Gary Wellner, 6221 Sunrise Dr.
Thomas F. Ryan, 6389 University Ave. N.E.
Harvey Peterson, 151 Glen Creek Rd.
Barbara Hughes,548 Rice Creek Terrace
Francis van Dan, 6342 Baker St. N.E.
APPROVAL OF MAY 19 1982, PLANNING CQMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO APPROVE TNE MAY 19� 5982� PLANNZNG
COMMZSSION MINUTES.
Ms. Schnabel stated that on page 7, 3rd paragraph from the bottom, "policy"
should be changed to "police".
UPON A VOSCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MINUTES
APPROVED RS AMENDED.
l. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP �82-Q7, BY
G ALD HART AN: Per Section 05. 3, 3, , 2, to a ow an auto auction
on t—Tie North �40 feet of the Southeast Quarter of the Northeast Ouarter of
Section 3, the same being 8290 Main Street N.E.
MOTION BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MR. XONDRICK� TO OPEN TNE PUBLIC HERRING ON
SP i�82-07 BY GERRLD XARTMAN.
UPON A VDSCE VOTE� RLL VOTING RYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TXE PUBLZC
HEARING OPEN AT 7:37 P.et1.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 9, 1982 PAGE 2
The petitioner was not in the audience.
Mr. Deblon stated he had an aeria] photo showing the location of the building.
He stated the operation is a drive-through type auction, It is a public
duction where anyone can bring in an autanobile to be auctioned off. He stated
Staff has some problems they would like to see addressed.
Mr. Deblon stated the major problem was parking. The activity is currently
going on, and the City has determined it should require a special use permit.
Although the zoning is M-2, the operation is hedging toward a retai] operation,
but technically it could be called a wholesale-type of sales.He stated they run
into problems when a retail-type operation is in an industrial development,
where enough parking is provided for warehousing or manufacturing at a lesser
rate than would be provided for retail or wholesale. He stated Staff would like
to see all off-street parking needs met accoriling to the code (hard surface
with concrete curbing around the area).
Mr. Deblon stated the Fire Department has expressed sane concerns, many of which
have been resolved. The Fire Department has a fairly extensive list of concerns.
Mr. Kondrick asked if cars were stored at this facility.
Mr. Doty stated he is familiar with the building and the tenant. He s�ated
there are 40 bays in the building, with a total of 80,000 sq. ft. Six bays are
presently being rented to the automobile-related industry--auto restoration,
transmission repair shop, auto vinyl repair shop, etc. He stated Mr, Hartman
does not do any auto repair, but he does store cars pending the auctron. He
stated the auction is held On Saturday morning. People can bring their cars in
during the week, and those cars are stored inside the building until Saturday,
After the auction, the cars are removed.
Ms. Gabel asked how much parking there actually is now and how much parking •
would be required for this operation in the appropriate zoning. .
Mr. Deblon stated a retail-type operation requires one stall per every 250 ft.
of space. He did not have an analysis of how many parking spaces would be
needed to keep the parking off-street. 7here is a lot of on-street parking at
the time of the auction.
Mr. Doty stated Mr. Hartman is actually using 17,000 sq. ft. He stated that
when Mr. Hartman started this operation, he did not know he was required to get
a special use permit, It first came to the attention of City Hall when the
Fire Department inspected regarding fire hazards.
Mr. Doty stated that because he is familiar witfi the Duilding, he would like to
suggest a couple of things. As far as requiring curbing, a parking lot, and all
those kinds of things, he felt those were properly the province of the building
owner. As far as the parking problem, this area is not a heavily traveled area,
and the auction is held on Saturday morning. He stated the Planning Cortanission
should be aware that this building produced around $33,000 in taxes last year
and is being hit now with a tax increase of $11,000. Even 100% occupied, that
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 9, 1982 PAGE 3
building is losing money. He stated he empathized with Mr. Hartman who is a
small business person, and in speaking for the small business people who are
trying to survive in today's econany, he hoped the Planning Camnission would
take these things into consideration in making their decision.
Ms. Barbara Hughes stated she is a member of the Springbrook Nature Center
Foundation Board of Directors, and she was representing the Springbrook Nature
Center Foundation at this meeting. She stated she had a resolution dated
June 1, 1982, she would like to present to the Pla�ning Co�nission. Ms, Hughes
read the following resolution into the record:
SPRINGBROOK NA7URE CENTER FOUNDATION
RESOLVED:
For reasons of protecting a valuable natural resource, of protectinq
the investment the corranunity has made in.its largest park, and to
preserve natural wildlife habitat and areas citizens may use for
personal enjoyment, education and growth, and to preserve the unique
educational facility and to prevent degradation of all these assets,
the Springbrook Nature Center Foundation Board of Directors does urqe
the City of Fridley to examine the need for a special use permit for
activities on adjoining property with great care, and to do everything
in its power to prevent the intrusion of noise, unwanted sounds, the
sounds of business activity and especially of outdoor loudspeakers, and
to assure that the water quality in the nature center creek and ponds
is not degraded by run-off from adjoining property and is of the
highest quality, and that the City use its powers to assure that the
visual impact of activities taking place on adjoining property is held
to a minimum and that junk car storage lots not be permitted in
property abutting the nature center, and that all the required planting,
screenings, and buffering techniques appropriate between zoninq cate-
gories of different types be used to the fullest extent.
June 1, 1982
Ms. Hughes stated the Springbrook Nature Center Foundation is not directly
opposing the granting of this special use permit. They have a great many con-
cerns about the impact on the activities that would take place on a Saturday
morning when there are a great many people in the nature center. that those
people not be disturbed by loud car noise and that there not be loudspeakers.
She stated there are some traiis very close to this property. Those trails
that are in the prairie have direct visual access to this building, and part of
their concern is that the people on the trails could have a miserable experience.
She stated they have as many as 2,000 people going through the nature center
on one weekend. There are a l�t of people who come who want the area to be
quiet and expect it to be quiet.
Ms. Hughes stated, again, they are not saying the special use permit should
not be or cannot be issued, but they wanted these kinds of considerations
included in it so there was some enforcement should this operation violate those
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 9, 1982 PAGE 4
considerations. She stated it has been her feeling that special use permits
are very often used as a way to avotd rezoning. That did not seem to be the
case here, and she was glad to see that, but it may clearly be a case of an
inappropriate use in that particular zoning, which she would think would be
grounds to deny the request,
Ms. Hughes stated they understood this was projected as an increase in business.
Although the business has been in operation, the auctions have only been held
once a month, but they understood Mr. Hartman was intending to have auctions
every Saturday, which concerned the Springbrook Nature Center foundation.
Ms. Hughes stated that because the auction has been held inside the building,
they have not been unduly impacted at this time, but if they see an increase in
the size of the operation or in the frequency of operation, the chances of
these kinds of things happening, particularly the noise, would be what they would
consider an adverse impact. At this time, they have not seen a lot of adverse
impacts, but they would like the City to be very cognizant of what the potential
is there and to protect it. After all, it is a city park, She stated she was
sure the Parks & Recreation Commission would have similar concerns,
Ms. Hughes stated she has been at City Councii meetings when they have dealt
with the car salvage yards and has seen the efforts the owners of those facilities
have to go to to meet the many stipulations on plantings, paving, water run-off,
water quality, etc. Those same kinds of things are appropriate things to apply
to this type of operation.
Ms. Hughes stated the water plan for that whole area dumps into the nature
center's waterways in a number of different places. It is their understandinq
at this time that the run-off from this particular site is not getting into the
nature center ponds or waterways very easitiy, but it may in heavier rains. She
stated the concern of where the water from that parking lot is going is a concern
the City should address.
Mr. �eblon stated there was the residential zoning near this building and the
proposal for an apartment complex in that area. He had genuine concern about
the actikities they allow in these areas and the impact on the quality of life
in residential areas.
MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY MS. VAN DRN, TO RECEIVE INTO THE RECORD THE
RfiSOLUTION DATED JUNE 1� 1982� FROM TNE SPRZNGBROOK AATURE CENTER FOUNDATION.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTZON
CARRZfiD UNANZMOUSLY.
Mr. Kondrick stated he felt the Parks & Recreation Caomission rmald agree with
the concerns presented by Ms. Hughes. He stated water is a problem no�v in the
nature center, let alone what it could become in the future with a lot of cars
in this area. Noise and noise abatement is going to be critical. He felt the
City should consider the suggestions made by Ms. Hughes to protect the nature
center property from any unnecessary noises at all times, not just on Saturdays.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 9, 1982 PAGE 5
Ms, van Dan stated she would also be concerned about the visual pollution. As
Ms. Hughes had pointed out, the view from the park does involve the building
and its activities. Another concern was the residentia] area and the apartment
building that might be going up, and she wondered if this was an appropriate
activity to be taking place so close to residential.
Ms. Schnabel stated they have to remember this is M-2 zoning and there are other
businesses in this building that are compatible with M-2 zoning. But, Staff
also has a question of whether this auction operation is compatible in M-2.
Ms. van Dan stated she just wanted to be sure that if the business was conducted,
it did not project any noise or visual impact to the nature center. The operation
can be contained in the building.
Ms. Schnabel stated she had several questions she wo�ld like answered:
1. What is the zoning on the other auto salvage areas, and do these
places have special use permits? If so, what are the conditions of those
special use permits?
2. Have there been any complaints from the public about the auction
business or any other business in that building?
3. What happens to the cars if they are not sold after the auction?
4. What is the current water run-off situation in this area and what
impact does this business have on it?
Ms. Gabel stated she would like the Planning Comnission members to have a copy
of the stipulations that are given to auto salvage operations.
Ms. Schnabel stated they need the petitioner here to answer these kinds of
questions, and she wou7d recommend the Planning Commission continue this item
until the petitioner can be present.
MOiION BY l�2. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO CONTINUE SPECIAL USE PERMIT�
SP N82-07� BY GERALD HARTMAN� UNSIL TNE PETITIONER CAN BE PRESENT.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE� CHAIRIIOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOSION
CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY.
2. VACATION
THE FR
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a ey in lock 4, Ree's Addition to Fridley Park. (Block 5 alley vacated
Ordinance 208) (balance of streets and alleys from hlississippi St, to
64th Avenue vacated February 23, 1953, in Bo�k 292, Page 219, Anoka County
Records)
Mr. Deblon stated this request 9s by the Fridley Housing & Redevelppment
Authority (HRA) to vacate both 4th St, and the alley. The street is not in
existence, but the alley is existing. The reason for the vacation is to make
way for the devetopme�t of a medical clinic by Colum6ia Park Properties.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 9, 1982 PAGE 6
Mr. Deblon stated he had an aerial photo to present to the Conmission in order
to give them an idea of the deveiopment in the area. He stated the clinic
development was planned for late July.
Ms, Patty Hardel stated their garage address is 33b - 64th Ave. She stated
their main objection was that the alley is their main access to their driveway
to get to their garage which is how they get into their house. She stated they
did not receive any notification of this action unti7 last Saturday.
Mr, Harvey Petersnn stated he was speaking for Tom Ryan. He stated he felt
this action was premature. If the alley was vacated, it would severely damage
Mr, Rya�'s business. The vacation of the alley was an unnecessary action because
if the HRA acquires the property, they will then own the alley anyway.
Mr. Doty stated the vacation action was premature. By this action, the HRA
was taking away access to part of his property which is several hundred feet of
frontage on 4th St. He stated the HRA needs the 4th St, property and the east
portion of his property for the development of the medical clinic. He stated
the HRA and he comnenced negotiations that morning. He stated he did not oppose
this development, but he thought the cart was before the horse. This should be
done two weeks from now, but not at this meeting. Mr. Doty stated the contract
has not yet been signed with Columbia Park Properties and until that contract is
signed, he would have to oppose this vacation.
Mr,Deblon stated he thought Staff was concerned about the timing a vacation
takes. He believed it took about three months to complete the vacation of a
street or a71ey,
MOTION BY MR, OQUZST� SECONDED BY MS. VAN DAN� TO RECOMMEND THE FOLIAWING:
(1) TO TABLE THE VACATION OF THE 12 FT. ALLEY ZN BIACK 4, REE'S ADDITZON
TO FRIDLEY PARK (SAV N82-01)� UNTIL THE HRA HAS COMPLETED NEGOTIATZONS
WITH THE OWNERS OF TXE SHOPPZNG CENTER AND DR. RYAN'S AUTOMOTIVE
CLINIC; AND,
(2f TO TABLE THE VACATION OF 4th STREET BETWEEN BLOCXS 4 AND 5� REE'S
ADDZTION TO FRIDLEY PRRX (SRV N82-01)� UNTZL THE HRR HAS COMPLETED
NEGOTIRSIONS WITH COLUMBIA PARK PROPERTIES AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTY
OWNERS.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAZRWOMRN SCHNABEL DECLARED THS MOTION
CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY.
MOTION BY MR. OpUZST� SECONDED BY h42. SABR� TO REQUEST A LEGAL OPINION ON
WNETHER OR NOT VACATZON REQUESTS SUCH AS SHIS ARE NECESSARY WHEN THE HRA INTENAS
TO PURCXASE TXE RDJACENT PROPERTIES AND WILL BECOME OWNERS OF THE SURROUNDING
LAND OF THESE ALLEYS AND STREETS. ,
UPON A YOZCE VOTE� ALL YOTING AYE� CXAIRWOMAN SCXNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Deb]on stated the City would notify the affected property owners when this
request again canes before the Planning Commission.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETIN6 JUNE 9 1982 PAGE 7
3. REVIEW MODIFICATION TO CHAPTER 211 OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE: PLATTING
RDINANCE
Mr, Oquist stated this was brought before the Comnunity Development Cor�nission
the previous evening. Mr. Boardman reviewed the ordinance with them, and the
Comnunity Development Commission made the recommendation to approve the concept
of zero lot lines.
Mr. Deblon stated the Planning Commission members were aware of the numerous
requests the City is getting for double bungalows t� be split with single
ownership side by side. He stated they also had a prob7em with new construction
versus existing construction. He s#ated Mr. Qoty and Mr. Wellner have land
which was recently zoned R-2 which is now up for subdivision approval for zero
lot line-type development.
Mr. Deblon stated this ordinance amending Chapter 211 sets up some standards
whereby the City Council can approve subdivisions--in R-2, the lot area is 5,000
sq, ft. with a lot width of 37.5 ft; and in R-3, the lot area is 3,000 sq. ft.
with a lot width of 25.0 ft. In proceeding with the subdivisions with Mr. Doty's
land, they encountered some other problems with irregular shaped lots. He stated
they are still searching for a mechanism to split the land as equally as possible
in order to end up with a more acceptable sheped lot if the origina7 lot is
10,000 sq. ft.
Mr� Deblon stated that also included with the ordinance is a"Declaration of
Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions".
Mr. Deblon stated they would like the Planning Canmission to approve the concept
of zero lot line and possibly approve the amendment to Chapter 211 with
recortmendations.
Ms. Schnabel stated she would like to know when the "Declaration of Covenants,
Conditions a�d Restrictions" had to be filed and where the document is filed,
She stated this information should be included with the ordinance.
Ms. Schanbel stated she did not have any problems with the "Declaration of
Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions", except for the sexist language which
should be changed.
Ms. 6abe1 and Ms, van Oa� stated the "Declaration of Covenants, Conditions and
Restrictions" was a very reassuring document.
Ms. Schnabel stated she had problems with the lot area in R-2 and R-3 under
Item N1 of the ordinance. She felt the whole sectfon needed to be rewritten to
avoid the kinds of problems Mr. Doty and Mr. We]lner are getting into with
strange lot sizes. It looked like the 3,OOQ sq. ft. lot area in R-3 was
written for a 3-piex and 4-plexes were not taken into consideration.
PLANNIN6 COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 9, 1982 PAGE 8
Ms. Schnabel recommended that #1 under 217.045 Zero Lot Lines be changed as
follows:
211,045 ZERO LOT LINES
1. The City may approve subdivisions for the deveiopment of zero
lot line, comnon wall residential structures. These lots shall be
divided equally as is reasonab]y possible within the restrictions
of the existing guidelines of the zoning ordinance.
MOTION BY MR. OpUIST� SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF THE MODIFICATIDN TO CHRPTER 2I1 JF THE FRIDLEY CZTY CODE� PLATTING
ORDINANCE, AS AMENDED ABOVE.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMRN SCHNABEL DECLARED TBE MOTZON
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
4. RECEIVE MEMO FROM VIRGIL HERRICK: .PROCEDURAL AND SUBSTAPlTIVE RE�UIREMENTS
Ms. Schnabel stated she would encourage the Planning Commission members to
study this memo as parts of it were pertinent at times to their discussions.
MOTFON BY AII2. SABA� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO RECEIVE TXE MEMO FROM VIRGZL HERRICX
DRTED RUG. 2� 1979,
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE, CHAZRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED 2HE MOTION
CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY,
5. RECEIVE MAY 6, 1982, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTZON BY MS. VAN DAN, SECONDED BY MS. GABEL, TO RECfiIVE MAY 6� 1982� HUMAN
RESOt1RCES COMMISSIDN MSNUTES.
Ms, van Dan stated the Accessibility Project Committee has met at least twice
since these minutes were written. As of a week ago, they had attained almost
a 30� return of the surveys. She wouid anticipate an even higher return than
30% because there seems to be a pretty good response. She stated Julee Quarve-
Peterson has been having contact with the Fridley Sun, and there have been
excelient articles on the National Year for the Disabled. The�e has also been
a program on cabte TV.
Ms. van Dan stated she has been i�f�rmed that on Monday night, the City Council
decided the City would provide no funding to any funding requests. The
Comnission now has the sad task of writing to SACA, Central Center ior Family
Resources, Alexandra House, and some af the others informing them of this action.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 9, 7982 PAGE 9
Mr. Francis van Dan stated that because of the pressing human needs and the
unavailability of funds, it might be feasi6le for the Human Resources Commission
to suggest that these organizations apply to private foundations, such as the
McKnight Foundation and the Dayton Corp. He asked if the Planning Commission
would be willing to endorse suth applications to give them more weight and also
recomnend that the City Council e�dorse them?
Ms. Schnabel stated it was a good point. She would guess that most of these
organizations have tapped every available resource there is, but the Human
Resources Comnission could discuss this suggestion. If the Human Resources
Commission decides they would like to see the City endorse applications, then
the Human Resources Comnission should pass a resolution �o go through Planning
Commission to City Council.
UPON R VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING RYE, CHRZRWOMAN SCXNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
RECEIVE MAY 11, 1982 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. OQUZST� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO RECESVE TXE MRY 11� 1982�
COMMUNITY DEVEZAPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES,
Mr. Oquist stated the Commission had an interesting presentation on Truth in
Sales of Housing Dy Bob lines from the City of Minneapolis. Mr. Oquist stated
the Canmission has been asked to get an opposite viewpoint on Truth in Sales
of Housing, and they hope to have someone do that at their July meeting.
Because of that, the Cortmission will withdraw their motion to City Council
recanmending that a Truth in Sales of Housing ordinance be developed for the
City of �ridley.
Mr. Doty stated there are some negative aspects to Truth in Sales of Housing.
He stated the Truth in Sales of Housing ordinance requires that before a house
can be sold, the owner must have the house checked for those things that are
hazardous, not up to code, and comnents. The ordinance requires these things
be displayed before a property is offered for sale through a broker. He stated
he is not opposed to the concept, but he felt the disadvantage was that the
checklist was disarming to potential buyers. People look at the list and
assume that anything that isn't on the checklist is all right. That is not the
case. There is nothing that guarantees that if something is not on the list,
it is all right. He stated they are having lawsuit after lawsuit because of
this, He stated it would be his recommendation that instead of Truth in Sales
of Housing, the Cortmunity Development Corrmission consider a comnliance certi-
ficate which is used by the City of New Hope.
Mr. Oquist stated they would take that suggestion into consideration.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE, CHASRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
PLANNING COhaAISSION MEETING, JUNE 9, 1982 PAGE 10
7. RECEIVE MAY 13 1982 HOUSING & REDEUELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTE$:
MOTION BY Ffl2. SABR, SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK, TO RECSZVE THE 1NAY 13� I982,
XOUSZNG 6 REDEVEZAPMENT RUTNORITY MSNUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCXNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8. RECEIVE MAY 25, 1982, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS. GABEL, SECONDED BY MS, VAN DAN� TO RECEIYE THE MAY 25� 1982�
APPEALS COMMISSION MiNUTES.
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VO27NG AYE, CHAZRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNRNIMOUSLY.
9. RECEIVE MAY 25, 1982, ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK, TO RECEIVE THE MAY 25� 1982,
ENERGY COMMZSSION MINUTES,
Mr. Saba staied the Commission is sti7i trying to establish an energy accounting
system, and part of that requires some time on the computer so they can get a
good idea where the City is spending money and saving money. Right now, they
have been attempting to do this manually, and Mr. Oeblon has been doing a lot
of work in that respect, but it is essential to have computer time. He stated
he wouid call the PTanning Commission's attention to the motion made by the
Energy Commission on page 3 urging the City Council to encourage city management
to give some priority to the use of canputer time for the energy accountin9
system.
MOTION BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MS. VAN DAN� TO A�NCUR WITX TXE ENERGY COMMISSION'S
RECOMMENDATION TO URGE THE CZTY CDUNCIL TO MAKE EVERY EFFORT POSSSBLE TO ENCOURAGE
CITY MANAGEMENT TO GNE SOME 87GHER PRIOI22TY TO TXE UTILIZATION OF THE COMPUTER
FACILITY SO THE CITY CAN STRRT ANALYZING ITS ENERGY CONSUMPTION AND GETTING SOME
MERNINGFUL RESULTS.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY.
10. OTHER BUSINESS:
a, Cortmission Field Trips
Ms, Schnabel stated she vrould tike to get some reaction from the
Planning Comnission members as to whether they fe'!t it would be
worthwhile to take some time as a commission with some staff inembers
and visit some �ther communities to see how other communities actually
handle some of the things the Planning Commission is facing in Fridley;
for exampie, the zero lot tine issue.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETIN6 JUNE 9, 1982 PAGE 11
Ms. Schnabel stated she was bringing this up because she has a friend
on the Coon Rapids Planning Commission, and they do it at least once
a year. She stated she fe7t it would be very w�rthwhile for the Planning
Cortmission to do this, and it wou7d give them a better visual perspective
on some of the things they have caning before them as a commission.
Ms. Gabel stated she thought it was a good idea. It would give them a
feel of what is going on in other comnunities and how other communities
handle different situations,
The other Comnissioners agreed it was a good idea.
Ms. Schnabel stated she would talk to Mr. Boardman about it and work on
arranging some kind of tour,
b. Election of Planning Commission 4ice-Chairperson
Ms. Schnabel stated the Planning Cortmission should elect a new vice-
chairperson at their next meeting.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO ADJWRN THE MEETING. UPON A
VOSCE VOSE, ALL VOTSNG AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TXE JUNE 9, I982,
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 11:10 P.M.
Respectfully s�ubmitted,
�� ,r .�
Ly# e Saba
Re ording Secretary
SPAINGBROOK NATURE CENTER FOUNDATION
RESOLVED:
For reasons of protecting a valuable natural resource,
of protecting the investment the co�nunity has made in
ite largest park, and to preserve natural wildlife
habitat and areas citizens may use for personal enjoyment,
education and growth, and to presezve the unique educational
facility and to prevent degrada[ion of all these asse[s,
the Springbrook Nature Center Foundation Board of Directors
does urge the City of Fridley to examine the need for a
special use permit for activities on adjoining prc�erty with
great care, and to do everything in its power to prevent
the intrusion of noise, unwanted sounds, the sounds of
business activity and especially of outdoor loudspeakers,
and to assure that the wat r�quu,ac�lit �the �nat�u.cr�e �cent�er creek ,
and ponds is not degraded�nd is bf the highes�t quality�, " /
and [hat the City use its powezs to assure [hat the visual
impact of activities taking place on adjoining property is
held to a minimum and that junF car storage lots not be percaitted
in pro?er[y abutting [he nature center� and that all the required
planting, screenings and buffering techniques appropriate between
zoning ca[egories of different types be used to the fullest
extent.
June �� 1982
�/��)-J� C1TY OF !=6'�IDLEY,
1/\(/,- p:q3� UIVN@R51TY AVG. Nt.
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Sf'ECIAL USE PER��1IT
Si� i1 V a'ii 7
ADDRESS O � / O �L� ' � DAT ��'�
PLAN4ING COI��t1IS5I0N: P.H, DATF�� �1,/�v ApPROVFD ' DISAPPRQ'�^,
DATE _ __ h�
Ci1�Y COUNCIL: P.H. REQ'D
CIT1' COUNCIL:
ST I PUUITI O�NS :
DAT
APPROVED__ DISAPPROVED� DA
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NO
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NAME � _ FEE_ '�2�%�'� RECEIPT N0�
STRcET LOCATION OF PR�PER7Y_ � `,Z "1D � �
LEGAL OESCRIPTION Of PROPERTY '/ ��%U J� `'E /�'%,}�f /y Z� �--3
i \
' r� ��EN7 ZOWING CLASSIFICATION r/I �. EXISTING USE OF PROPERTY �)��� .,.�}•.
ACREA6E CF PROFERTY � G-c�1.t.� DESC�IBE BRIEFLY THE PROPOSED TYPE OF US�E A�D
IMPROVEM[fdT ��,.� �' ' � 02 P� �i�� ' � , `? ,� Z
Fias the present applicant previous1y sought to rezone, plat, obCa.in a lot split or
variance or special use permii: on the subject site or parl: of it? _yes no.
What was requested and when'
The undersigned understands that: (a) A list of all residents ar,d owners of property
within 300 feet must be attached to this application. (b) This applice.tion must be
signed by all owners of the property, or• an exglanation given why this is not the
case. (c1 Responsibility for any defect in the proceedings resultin9 from the failure
to list the names and addresses of all residents and property owners of property in
question, belongs to the undersigned.
A sketch of pt'oposed property and structure must be drawn anr.i attached, showing the
followiny: 1. No�•th direction. 2. Location of ��ropased structure en the lot.
3. Dimensions of property, proposed structure, anci front and side setbacks.
4. Street names. 5. Location and use of adjacerit existing buildings {within 300
feet).
The undersigned hereSy declares that all tl�e iacts ,nd r t•esei�t�ltions stated in
this application are true and ccrre;.t.
IDATE � � �y � --
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ADDRrSS �� �� _//�Q..+...
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TME CITY OF
DIREGTOFIATE
OF
PUBLIC WOIaKS
DATE
13
MEMOFiANDUM
FROM D.P,W. William Deblon - Plannin �� �i� TO ACTION INFO•
SUBJECT Jerrold L. Boardman X
SP #82-07 for People's Auction
The People's Auction has moved out of 8290 Main and have relocated outside
of Fridley. They have requested withdrawal of the permit per phone call
with Gerald Hartman dated June 18, 1982 and have requested any refund be
forwarded to tliem.
WSD/nh
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643'I UN�VER5ITY AVG. I�F.
� FRIOLGY, MN. E3A3F• ([i'1L`] Ca7�—�:�`%O
AGDRESS � 3 � � 2�z`t's`
SUOJECT
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VACt1T,.0id
PLAT ,
ORDINAtdCE NO
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PUQLISHED
pATE
PLANNING COI4MISSION: APPR�VED_ VDISAPPROVED! DATE_ ���/�''�� fd0
CITY COUNCIL: PU6LIC HEARItIG �ATE 1ST RFAD ZND READ
CITY COUNCIL: APPROVED_ DISAPPRQ`J[U` DATE NO
PARK FEE REQUIRED:
STIPULATIONS:
At40UIJT
NAME �RIp�.CcY T'�Ot�t�ab I-�w'f�ptt±.�__
STREET LOCATION OF PROPERTY
LEGAL �ESCRIPTIOW OF PROPER
PAI
FEE kJa�� � RECEIPT NO
PRESENT ZONING CLASSIFICATION '''(q
ACREAGE OF PROPERTY� DESCRIBE
OR TYPE OF USE AND I��iPROVEMENT PROPGSED
XISTING USE OF PROPERTY v q
6RIFFLY TH[ PROPOSED ZCI�IhlG CLASSIFICATION
Has the present applicant previously sought to rezone, plat, obtain a lot split or
variance or special use permit on the subject site or part of it? yes no.
t•lhat v;as requested and when?
The undersigned understands tihat: (a) A list of all residents and own2r's or prcper-
ty within 350 feet nuast be attached to this application. (b) This application must
be signed by all oti�aners of the property, or an explanai:ion yiven ��IiY tfiis is not
the case. (c) Responsibility for any defect in the proceedings resultin9 from the
failure to list the names and addresses of all residents and prcperty ovrners of pro-
perty in question, belongs to the undersigned.
A sketch of proposed property and structure must be dra��m and attached, showing the
fol]olving: 1. �orth direction. 2. Location of proposed structure on the lot,
3. Dimensions of property, proposed structure, and front and side setbacks,
4. Street names. 5. Location and use of adjac.ent existing builciings (within 350
feet).
The undersigned hereby declares that ull
this application are true and correct.
DATE 5/2�1 SI6N/ITU1.''�
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION
MEETING
JUNE 10, 1982
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson van Dan called the June 10, 1982, Hianan Resources Commission
meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Mary van Dan, Brian Goodspeed, Peter Treuenfels, Jayne Noble,
Lynn Boergerhoff
Members Absent: None
Others Present: Mary Cayan, Numan Resources Assistant
Robert Mfinton, Chairperson of Accessibility 5urvey Project Cortmittee
APPR4VAL OF MAY 6, 1982, HUMAN RESOURCES CON�IISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS, NOBLE� SEC017DED BY MR. TREUENFELS� TO APPROVE TXE MAY 6, 2982�
BUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYfi� CXAIRPERSON VAN DAN DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. ACCESSIBIUTY SURVEY PROJECT COhU1ITTEE UPDATE - ROBERT MINTON:
Mr. Minton stated the Committee was established in April and since then, they
have done a 1ot of work. The Comnittee usually meets at Village 6reen, They
have a very good comnittee, There are sane handicapped people on the Comnittee,
and Julee Quarve-Peterson, who has expertise in the field, is a member of the
Caimittee. He stated the Carrnittee has a lot of enthusiasm, and they all seem
to be very interested in the whole project.
Mr. Minton stated that when the Comnittee was formed, Staff set a timetable,
and the 6arenittee has met the timetable items up to the present time.
Mr. Minton stated the Comnittee's first task was to construct a questionnaire.
They did this, and the uestionnaire was mailed on May 6 to 119 building owners
in the City of Fridley �only 11U of those buildings were valid for various
reasons.} He stated they had received a return of 30%, and then they had a
telephone follow-up. Five people from tfie Committee volunteered to do the
telephoning. Because of the telepfione follow-up, they have now received 59
returns out of 110. Of the 51 buildings that are left, the Cotmnittee will do a
follow-up on site about the middle of July.
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 10, 1982 PAGE 2
Mr. Minton stated they intend to have their data base pretty well canpteted by
the end of Ju1y. They have looked at several samples of accessibility handbooks
for other cities, and they chose the foimat of the handbook used in Gainesville,
Ftorida. They chose it for several reasons: (1) it looked simple; (2) was a
good size--could fit into pocket or purse easi7y; (3) wasn't fi77ed up with a lot
of complicated technicalities about accessibility; (4) simple explanations about
parking, entrance interior and restrooms. He stated the theme of the handbook
w111 be simpticity, He stated that at the last meeting. they decided on sane things
for the handbook. They are going to have a simple introduction� a list of drive-
up telephones, mailboxes, and TDD's, a listing of a]1 buildings by various cate-
gories, and there wiTl be some other area resources for handicapped peopie. He
stated Ms. Cayan is assembling a list of these resources through another cortanittee.
Ms, van Dan suggested the Cortmittee consider including in the resource list the
telephone numbers of signers for the hearing impaired.
Ms. Cayan stated that was a very good idea.
Mr, Minton stated the City of Frid7ey has a]so decfded to enter into a tontract
to have the public bu9ldings assessed for accessibility by Julee Quarve-Peterson.
The information about those buildings will be inctuded in the handbook.
Mr. Minton stated the different categories that will be included in the handbook
are:
AparUeents
Churches
Financial Institutions
Groceries
Hea)th care (hospita]s,
Office buildings
Public buildings
(savings & loan, drive-up, instant cash locations)
medical c]inics)
Recreation (4fi park facilities)
Restaurants/Bars
Retail stores/shopping centers
Schoois
Mr. Treuenfels stated there shouTd probably be some cross referencing; for
example, Banks - see Financial Institutions.
Mr, Minton stated they have made presentations to four groups in the corc�nunity--
the Jaycees, Kiwanis, Chamber of Camierce, and the Ministerial Association, He
stated they have had publicity in the Fridley Sun (a feature article) and a news
program on Channet 3 on cabte TV.
Mr, Minton stated that right now they are fundraising. The cost of putting
handbook together is 53,700. They are going to various camrunity groups and
nsking for contributions to this project. He stated that at this time, they
received $1,OOD in contributions--from the VFW Post #�363 and thp YFW Ladies
Auxiliary �F363.
the
have
NUMAN RESOURCES COM�ISSION MEETING JUNE"10, 1982 PAGE 3
Mr. Treuenfels suggested the Committee also go to corporate foundations such
as Medtronics, FMG, and Onan in their fundraising efforts.
Mr. Minton stated that was a good suggestion.
Mr. Minton stated they are planning on printing 7,000 copies of the handbook.
They want a printing that will last for about two years, They are estimating
that amourtt fram the number of handicapped people probably in the community at the
present time, plus businesses, real estate businesses, and others who would like
them, with sane distribution outside the caronunity that might be of advantage to
businesses in the community.
Mr. Minton stated that at last night's meeting, the entire Connnittee received
accessibility survey training from Ju)ee Quarve-Peterson, so the Cortmittee members
are all capable of doing on-site surveying.
Mr. Minton stated that also at ]ast night's meeting, they approved the sending
out of individualized letters to bui7ding owners and business owners in the
comnunity. The letters will Contain the evaluation of the survey returns, will
indicate information the building owners may need, and will have information about
what building owners can do to make their buildings fully accessible, including
where they can get further information.
Mr. Minton stated the intention of the project is to be of assistance as well as
an information-exchange project for handicapped peopie. He stated what is left
to comple*_e the project is to assess the surveys that are in, assess the 51
bui]dings that are left, and construct the handbook.
Mr. Minton stated being involved in the Comnittee has been a pleasant experience
and a learning experience for him. He stated it has been a real pleasure working
with staff inembers, Mary Cayan and Scott Wheeler, who have put in meny extra
hours on the project.
Ms. van Dan stated the amount of work that has been accomplished by this Committee
in such a short time is fantastic. She stated the project committee was a]so
very fortunate to have Bob Minton as chairperson. She thanked him for caning and
giving this report.
2. SECTION 504 COMPLIANCE STUDY AUtHORIZATION (June 3, 1982, Memo from John Flora):
MOTSON 8Y MR, TREUENFBLS, SECONDSD BY MR. GOODSPfiED� TO RECEIVE THfi M6M0 DATED
JUNB 3� 1982� FROM JOHN FLORA, �
UPDN A VOICS YOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRPF,RSON VAN DAN DECLARSD TXE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. van Dan stated two years ago, the Camnissi�n members did accessibility surveys
of the city-rnmed buildings. They completed the study and presented it through
the minutes to the Planning Comnission and City Council with a recommendation that
the corrections be made, but the Commission had no authority, other than telling
the City what things needed to be done in compliance with 504.
HUMAN RESOURCES COM�ISSION_MEETING, JUNE 10, 1982 PAGE 4
Ms. van Dan stated Ms. Cayan did quite a bit of background work in finding out
what it would cost, but �ega7ly it required an architect to devetop the pian far
programning. She stated this letter from John Flora was reminding the City
Manager that there were sane funds available through the Comnunity Development
BTock Grant program.
Ms. Cayan stated the Commission did a good job in surveying; however. there are
three canponents to meei the legal requirements. In addition to physical barriers
being outlined, they have to look at the City's compliance as far as personnel
poticies, programning as far as the Parks & Recreation Department and some of
the other programming ofi'ered by the City. So, the City really needs saneone
with expertise in 504 to know those particular components.
kOTION SY 11R, TREUENFELS� SfiCONDSD 8Y 11Qi. BOER68RXOFF� TO EXPRESS THfiIR GRATITUDE
POR THE CLBG PROGRAM AND FOR THE INTEREST AND SUPPORT THAT IS BEING SXOWN TIiRDUGH
TXS SECTION 504 COMPLSANCE STUDY. THIS WSLL 8fi OF GREAT BENEFIT TO TXE CITIZENS
OF FRIDI,EY IN THE US& OF PUBLZC BUILDINGS AND PARTICIPATION IN PUBLIC PROGRAMMING.
f1PON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CAAIRPERSON YAN DAN DECLARED THE 1NOTION
CARRIED UNANIMDUSLY.
3.
MOTION BY XR. TREUSNFELS� SfiCONDBD SY MR. GOOASPEED� TO RECfiIVS THE LETTER FROM
ST. PHILIP'S LfITBERAN CNURCH�.' �
UPON A VOICE VOTfi, ALL VOTING RYE� CAAIRPERSON VAN AAN DECLARED TAE MOTION
CARRIED UNANINOUSLY.
Ms. Cayan stated St. Philip's has been working for over a year on a proposal to
be submitted to the Department of Housing & Urban Development (HUD) in canpetition
for some of the 202 funding that is going to be available for the metropolitan
area. HUD wi17 fu�d a total of five projects in the metropolitan area. There
wfll be three proposals submitted from Anoka County. She showed the Comnission
a site plan of the proposed development.
Ms. Cayan stated HUD is looking for a sponsor that has a solid financfinl standing.
St. Phitip's is requesting support fran the Human Resources Co�mnission on this
project. St. Philip's is asking various organizations to do this.
The Commission members agreed to send a letter of sup ort to St. Philip's based
on the following reasons: �1) hwnanitarian reasons; (�2) a need in Fridley for
further housing for the etderly and disabled, as suggested by Metropolitan Councii,
and this proposed project would be a step in thnt direction; (3) St. Philip's
history of camiuntty involvement. Based on these reasons, the Commission agreed
that in closing, they woutd like to strongiy encourage St. Philip's in the develop-
ment of the Conqregate Housing project, and would tike to express their best wishes
for the success of this project.
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING JUNE 10, 1982 PAGE 5
Mr. Treuenfels suggested that another letter be sent to Karen Leske, President,
Board of Administration, asking her to keep the Comnission informed.
4. SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS fUNDING pROPOSALS: DISCUSSION
Ms, van Dan stated she was not present at the June 7 City Council meeting but
was informed that the City Council made a motion to stop the funding of agencies
at this time and not to appropriate any funds for 1983. 5he stated she was very
unhappy that this went through as a blanket refusal for any funding requests.
Mr, Boergerhoff stated that if funding has been eliminated entirely, it might
be very difficult for the Conxnission or anyone to justify the renewal of that
money next year.
Mr. Treuenfels stated he felt this motion applies only to 1983 and does not say
anything for subsequent years, so he feit there was roan for further discussion
in the years to come. He stated it seemed the decision was made rather hastiry,
and it was too bad the Human Resources Comnission was not even notified that this
item was on the Council agenda.
Mr. Treuenfels stated the aspect he personally minded the most was the timing.
These organizations have just gone through the process of preparing grant applica-
tions which involves a lot of time, work, and money in getting all their financial
data together for the Corrmission as the deadline was June ]. And then, on June 7,this
decisi�n was made by the Ciiy Council. He stated it would have been much fairer
to have made this decision on no funding last October so that everyone would have
known where things stood.
Ms. van Dan stated the thing that really bothers her is that if the City Council
was going to make this decision, they should have done it in May before the
organizations put the time and effort into developing their grant applications
and information for the Comnission.
Ms, van Dan stated she did a quick review of the grant applications and the
Central Center for Family Resources has many resources. The $5,000 they are
requesting frqm Fridley is a very small amount canpared to the amounts they are
requesting fran other sources: United Way -$18,000; Fees -$6,000; City of
Spring Lake Park -$5,000; City of Blaine -$5,000; State of Minnesota -$5,000;
VF�1 -$3,�40; other organizations and corporate support -$6,000. However, the
Central Center for family Resources does serve many Fridley people.
Ms. van Dan stated that according to the financial information received from
The Alexandra House, Inc., it looked as though they had a$36,000 surplus
as of Oecember 31, 1981.
Ms. van Dan stated that in the past the North Suburban family Center received
money from the Anoka County State Block Grant. They used to get $24,000; that
has been cut to $18,000, with the possibility it will be cut again. They have
also requested and received in the past monies from United Way, private founda-
tions, the cities of Blaine, Anoka, and Coon Rapids.
HUMAN RESOURCES CO�IMISSION MEETIN6, JtlNE 10 19$2 PA6E 6
Fls. Cayan stated that it was her understanding the county nnd state mon�es are
used to serve any county resident. Once those general monies run out (and this
year they run out in June), residents from Fridley will no longer be served a
sliding scale fee basis by the North Suburban Family Center if fridley dcesn't
contribute. If the general funding is cut back, then perhaps by April or May
1983, Fridley residents wi11 no longer be eligible for reduced fee services.
Ms. van Dan stated the Creative Ptay Center has spent a lot of ti� and money
in providing reports to the Cortmission almost monthly. They had an actual income
of �75,000 for 87-82 and for 83, they had proposed a cut in their budget, so
they were actually expecting less from the City than they did last year.
Ms. van Dan stated the organizatfion she had the most concern for was SACA. She
was very concerned that SACA was included in the blanket decision, as there is a
need being met by this organization that no other group meets.
Mr. Boergerhoff stated that for several of these organizations. the approach is
preventative in the sense that counseling services are available. He felt if the
preventative measures are not available, in many cases, the PoTice Departments
and correctional facilities wi11 be picking up in the future with increased
problems that might have been avoided with the preventative approach through many
of these programs. In that sense, he felt city funding was very vaTid and was
money we11 spent.
Mr. Goodspeed.stated he felt the City had its priorities a11 mixed up.
Ms. van Dan stated she was angry in that the priorities in the City may not
always be addressed to tfie people who have the greatest needs. With the current
rate of u�employment and unemployement funds running out, people have greater
needs. The greater needs are going to cause greater stresses, the greater
stresses are going to cause need for psychological and mental health services
and preventative programs. Altogether, they are going to result in more problems
for the City of frid7ey. She felt $l0,OD0 from the City of Fridley would be
put to better use in being directed to this particular area than in some other areas.
Mr. 7reuenfels agreed that money spent now in a preventative way would be far
better spent than money that would have to be spent after something has happened--
money spent by the Police Department, court systems,�etc. He thought this was
one of the reasons why Tim Turnbutl and athers in the Police Department were so
interested in the Central Center for Family Resources because of this preventative
aspect.
Ms. Noble stated that in addition to the timing� not only was this decision made
by the City Councit without consulting the Human Resources Cammission or any
other citizen body in estabtishing priorities for city spending, but she d9d not
feel any consideration was taken of the consequences of this decision, Other
government bodies usually have staff make an impact statement on the consequences
of such an action before taking the action, so the decision is an informed decision.
She did not think the City Gouncil had taken the time to took at that end of their
decision.
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 10, 1982 PAGE 7
Mr. Treuenfels agreed. He stated he has always advocated that before a decision
is made of such a nature that the consequences of various approaches be studied
first, and then the decision be made.
Ms. van 4an stated the Commission now has the task of regretfully informing the
organizations that on June 7 the City Council made the decision that no funding
will be available for the fiscal year 1983.
Ms. Cayan stated she had also just received a letter fran Dr. Baumer of the
Family Life Center requesting funding.
Ms. van Dan stated at the Planning Cort�nission meeting the evening before, the
suggestion was made by her husband, Francis van Dan, that considering the fact
that the City Council was not going to be funding any organizations, maybe the
Human Resources Commission should encourage each of these groups to approach
public funding, such as the McKnight Foundation, or some canpanies. She stated
that, to the best of her knowledge, most of these organizations are contacting
all possible funding sources.
MOSION BY MR. TREUENFELS� S&CONDED BY MS. NOBLE� TO SEND LETTERS TO THE SIX
FUNDING ORCANIZATSONS NOTIFYING THEM OF THE CITY COUNCIi'S ACTZON ON JUNE 7� I982�
TO NOT FUND RNY ORGANIZATIONS AT THIS TIME.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYB� CHAIRPBRSON VAN DAN DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. 600dspeed stated the Comnission should reco�nend that the City Council
reconsider their action.
Mr. Treuenfels suggested the Commission go ahead at their July meeting and
consider the grant applications they have received, being cognizant of the City
Council's action, but making recommendations as they have in the past and
possibly asking the City Council to reconsider their action.
The Commissioners agreed to do this.
5. NO-FAULT GRIEVANCE PROCEDURE 7RAINING SESSION UP�ATE - PETER TREl1ENFELS:
Mr. Treuenfels stated the training session would be held on Sat „ June 19, at
9:00 a.m, at City Hall. It is an all day session with a lunch break, He
stated the session was open to anyone who was interested.
ADJOURNMENT:
!lOTION BY MS. NOBLE� SECONDED 8Y MR. TREUENFSLS� TO RA70URN THE MEETING. UPON A
VDICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CBAIRPERSON VAN I1A1�7 DSCLARED THE JUNE 10� 1982�
HUMAN RESOURCES CO.NMISSIDN MEETING AA70URNED AT 9:15 P.M.
Respectfully submit ed,
L
y e a a, ecor ing Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION
MEETING
JUNE 8, 1982
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Oquist called the June 8, 1982, Cortmunity Development Commission
meeting to order at 7:35 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present
Members Absent:
Others Present:
LeRoy Oquist, Ken Vos, Sharon Gustafson, A1 Gabel
Connie Modig
Mary Cayan, Human Resources Assistant
Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
APPROVAL OF MAY 11, 1982, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS. GUSTAFSON, SECONDED BY DR. VOS, TO RPPROVE TXE MAY II� I982,
COMMUNITY DEVEIAPMEPT COMMISSION MINUTES A5 WRITY'EN.
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE�
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
MOTION BY DR, VOS, SECONDED BY MS, GUSTAFSON� TO RMEND THE AGENDA SN ORDER TO
DISCUSS A CNANGE TO TXE PLATTING ORDINANCE FOR THE ALLOWRBILZ2Y OF ZERO LOT
LINE IN R-2 AND R-3 ZONING DISTRICTS.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CXAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
�.
IfICAT
FRIDLEY C
Mr. Boardman stated Staff has been thinking for some time of some way to handle
zero lot line development or even if they want zero lot line development. The
City is having a lot of requests at this point in time for duplexes or tri-plexes
that are set up in a townhouse-type of manner to split the unit so both sides
of the unit can be separate ownership, rather than going to a condominium form
of ownership. Generally, the plan is to split the lot so the land under one
unit plus a certain amount of the tot goes with the land under the unit so the
land and part of the unit can be sold separately,
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 8, 1982 PAGE 2
Mr. Boardman stated that one of the reasons he was caning before the Community
Development Conrrnission was to get sane kind of "feel" from the Comnission, not
so much on the ordinance or the process, but on the concept of zero lot line
and the concept of this type of ownership of housing. Is it a good thing for
the City of Fridley, and should the City be looking for this kind of thing to be
happening in the next few years?
Mr. Boardman stated one of the goals in the Comprehensive Plan is to provide
a diversity of housing and the opportunity for that diversity of housing to take
place. In his opinion, since sing]e family housing is probably going to be more
and more expensive to buy and operate, young and old are going to be looking
for housing that is more affordable. He thought duplexes and multiple housing
was going to be the answer to that, and he thought it was going to take place,
He stated it is happening in other communities in the metropo7itan seven-county
area--Brooklyn Park, Coon Rapids, Plymouth, Shakopee, Burnsville, Bloomington--
all allow zero lot line dwellings. They are called "twin homes".
Mr. Boardman stated they are looking at how they can allow this to happen and
still keep the process simple. He stated they looked at going with zoning. If
they go with any approval process, they have to have either a platting process
or a 1ot spiit process. If they went with zoning, special use permit, or any
other control, they would stil7 have to go through a lot split or platting process.
Since a plat requires a public hearing and a lot split does not require a public
hearing and a lot split is generally for existing housing, Staff decided the best
way to go was to put it into the platting ordinance.
Mr. Boardman stated they felt the districts they should be involved with as far
as zero lot lines was not necessarily single family or R-1. They should be in
R-2 or R-3. Those areas have the'density anyway. The whole purpose of zoning
is to contro] density and not necessarily to control the types of ownerships.
The only difference is that in that area, two families are al7owed and those
t�o families have to be on 10,000 sq. ft. So, why not alTow that to be split
where there are two families, the two families are still on 10,000 sq, ft.so they
don't change the density, and all they are doing is changing the ownership within
that lot.
Mr. Boardman stated another thin9 they will be seeing is quad homes, homes that
are developed on a plus axis. This is also happening all over the Twin Cities,
He stated this ordinance wou7d also allow quad homes in R-3.
Mr. Oquist stated he could see nothing wrong with the zero lot line concept and
could see no reason not to allow it in R-2 and R-3. There seemed to be no
disadvantages.
Ms. Gustafson agreed, but she stated she would be concerned that this concept
be used to further home ownership opportunities in the City of Fridley and not
be rushed through in order to satisfy a person or persons within the City.
COh�1UNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MEETIN6 JUNE 8 1982 PAGE 3
MOTION BX MS. GUSTAFSON� SfiCONDED BY DR. V0.5� TO APPROVE THE ZERO LOT LINE
CONCEPT IN R-2 AIJD R-3 ZONES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2. NEI6HBORHOOD PROJECT COMMITTEE: SCOPE AND TIMETABLE DEVELOPMENT
Ms. Cayan stated the City Council had concurred with the Commission's recomnenda-
tian to establish a neighborhood project committee to study the neighborhood
concept in Fridley, and the City Council had directed the Commission to develop
a scope and timetable for the project committee, along with making suggestions
of names of people to appoint to the project cortanittee.
Mr. Oquist stated it would be his recanmendation to drop the neighborhood project
committee idea. He stated the project committee would only be as canmitted as
the neighborhood, and how do people get neighborhoods involved?
Ms. Cayan stated she understood the purpose of the project canmittee would be
to do a feasibility study on whether the neighborhood idea would work in Fridley.
The purpose is not to promote the development of neighborhoods per se, althoughc
that might be the conclusion and recomnendation of the project committee.
Ms. Gustafson stated two neighbors 7iving side by side are going to have different
ideas about a neighborhood, and she felt defining a neighborhood and naming a
neighborhood were a waste of time. Everybody in a neighborhood, by their own
interests, acitivites, and associations, already defines that neighborhood.
Mr. Oquist stated there is also the high turnover in neighborhoods, so how do
they get a true feeling of a neighborhood? He stated it is not like it used to
be years ago with the ethnic neighborhoods.
Dr. Vos stated that the town meeting would give an excellent opportunity for
feedback from the citizens about the neigfiborhoods. So, if he was going to put
any effort into anything,he would rather put that effart into the town meeting
rather than the neighborhood concept.
Ms. Gustafson stated she was in favor of discontinuing the idea of forming a
neighborhood pro3ect committee to study the neighborhood concept.
MOTION BY DR. V0.S� SECONDED BY MR, GABEL� TO DISCONTINUE THE DEVELbPMENT OF AHE
NEIGHBORXOOD PRq7ECT COMMITTEE CONCEPT DUE TO CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY THE COMMISSION
THAT THE FEASIBILITY OF THZS KIND OF PROJECT DID NOT SEEM TO BE TXE BEST USE OF
THEIR RE50URCES AT THIS TIME,
IIPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPfiRSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CRRRIED UNANZNDUSLY.
Mr. Oquist stated he thought the neighborhood concept was a good concept, but
to make something like that work, he felt the request had to come from
the �omnunity.
CONII�IUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 8, 1982 PAGE 4
3. FRI�LEY TOWN MEETING: SCOPE DEVELOPMENT
Mr. Oquist stated they have discussed this at 3-4 meetings, They had Larry Olson
Chairperson of the New Brightan Study Comnittee, talk to the Commission about
New Brighton's town meeting. He now felt it was time to talk to the City
Council and see if the City Council was really interested in taking the time
to have a town meeting.
Ms. Gustafson stated that when they present this idea to the City Council, the
Canmission should have a well-formulated plan with perhaps suggestions for discussion
topics for a town meeting. Then, the Commission can discuss it with the Council
and tell the City Council what work the Comnission is willing to do. She stated
she would be willing to discuss this with City Council at their next conference
meeting.
Dr, Vos listed some of the commitments the City Council would have in putting on
a town meeting:
1. A time cort�nitment--time for the meeting and preparation time
2. Agreement of topics to be presented and discussed
3. WiTtingness to prepare for one discussion topic
4. A cost commitment (student internship?)
Dr. Vos stated some of the responsibilities and commitments for the Commission
would be:
1.
2.
3.
4,
5.
Prepare a tight statement of responsibility for either an intern
or a project canmittee.
A Comnission member to act as liaison between intern or project
committee and Commission
At town meeting, Commission members should be heavi]y involved and
should be visible, possibly acting as presiders of discussion time,
introduce City Council members, give a commission report.
Suggest discussion topics for City Council members.
Personal publicity--willingness to speak to civic groups and
organizations about town meeting.
Ms. Gustafson stated their main goal with the town meeting is to make the
comnissions and the City Council more visibte and to make what the City Council
is doing more visible.
Dr, Vos stated another goal is that the reason for the town meeting is to get
citizen input.
Mr, Oquist stated they should also highlight to the City C arncil what Mr. Olson
told them about New Brighton's town meeting,
Ms. Cayan stated she would get this on the agenda for the City Council conference
meeting on June 28.
COMI�INITY DEVELOPMENT CON�IISSION MEETING, JUNE 8, 1982 P_AGE _5
4. OTHER BUSINESS:
a. Truth in Sales of Housing
Ms. Cayan stated that at the 7ast meeting, the Cortmission had made a
motion to recommend to the City Council that a Truth in Sa7es of Housing
ordinance be developed for the City of Fridley. She stated she has
received a cortunent from John Flora, Director of Public Works, that since
Mr. Bob Lines' position is to promote the Truth in Sales of Housing
program in Minneapolis, the Commission may want to get an alternate
opinion and viewpoint of the Truth in Sales of Housing before the
Commission initiates this type of ordinance.
Mr. Oquist stated he felt Mr. Lines gave a very good presentation with
both the pros and cons.
Dr. Vos agreed, but he stated he would be willing to listen to another
viewpoint.
Ms. Cayan stated she would contact the City of Minneapolis and try to
have someone at the July Commission meeting to give another viewpoint
on Truth in 5ales of Housing.
ADJOUR�JMENT:
MOTION BY MR. GABEL� SECONDED BY MS. GUSTAFSON� TO ADJWRN THE MEETING. UPON A
VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHRIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED TXE JUNE 8� .2982,
COMMUNITY DEVEIAPMENT COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:30 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
G �7t,G ��
ynn Sa a
Recording Secretary
City of PbidLy
APPEALS COAMLSSION iS�TSNG - JONE 15L 1962 PAGE 1
CALL 10 ORDfiRe
Chairvomn G+bel callsd the Juns 15. 1962, Appeals Comaiasion aaeting to order
at 7i3� p,m.
ROLL CALL�
Me�bera Prasent� Patricia Gabsl� Alex H�rna, Jim Plsmel, Jean Gernu
Membsre Abssntt Leslie Coleman
Othera Prssentc Darr�ll CLrk, City of F�idlsy
Mr, and Mrs. Harold H. Anderaon. 5324 Altura Road.-Fridley, I�AI
Mr. and ih�s. Donald Nlelaen. 115-71} Way N.&. Fridley, MN
Jamee H. Croae, 62�1 Jackaon Strest N,E „ Fridley, AR�I
Robezt and Gail Riahiah, 5312 Altura Road, Fridley. MN
APPROVE APP6ALS pD}IMISSION KINU'lfsS OF MAY 25. 1982�
NOTION by Ma. Gerou� seoonded by Mr, HQrna, to spprove the May 25, 1982, Appeala
Comeiiseion alnutes aa rritten, OPON A VOICE W�, ALL YOTING AYfi, CHAIRWOMAN
GAH'sL DIsCLARED Tf� IlOTIAN CARRIED UNANI?DUSLY.
l.
Puhlic Hearing Closed
MOTION tq� Mr. Barna, seconded by Me. Gerou� to remove the above item from the
table. UPON A VOICE Vp1S, ALL VDTING AYE, CHA7RWOMAN GA�L DECLARED TAE MOTUJN
CARRITD UNANIMOUSLY.
KOTIQN bg Ms. Gerou. seconded try Mr, B►rru� to opan the public hearing, UPON A
YOICE Y01E, ALL YOTING AYE, CFiAIRWOMAN GA�L DECIARID THE PUBLIC HF.ARING OPEN
AT 7t32 P.lf.
ADMINISTRATIVE.STAFT�` REPORT
115 - 71� i�lay N.E.
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENT:
Section 205.154, 4, allows unoovered pozches and steps to building
entrances to extend not more than 10 feet into a required front yazd.
Public purpose served by this requirement is ta ailow for aesthetic
consideration to reduce the building •line of siqht" encroachment int�
the neighbor's front yard.
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8. STA7£D H]IRD68IP:
"Need a front door and need abwe grade deck to uee door."
C, ADMINiSTRATZVE STAFF REVIEW:
The existi� dwelling was built in 1956 tivith a 35 foot £ront yard
setback. In 1976, the City improved 71y Way and 9 feet of this
property was taken for street right of sray, leaving the existing house
27.9 feet fram the front property line.
The proposal is b� build a 12 foot deck and front step off the front of
the dwellinq which would leave a 15 foot front yard.
The adjacent structures to the east and west aze over 100 feet from
this addition so this deck should not encroach into tl�eir "line of sight",
There is an apparent problem wer the westerly 10 feet of Lot 32,
Auditor's Subdivision #77. The City approved the lot split (L.S.#73-07)
in June, 1973. For s�ne reason the transfer of the 10 feet of land was
r�ever recorded at the County. Therefore we have told Mr. Nielsen that
the staff report xould be recommending to the Hoard that his petition
be oontinued until proper recording has been accomplished. Mr. Nielson
does have an attnrney working on this at this time.
?Ir. and Nra. Donald Nislssn. 115-T1} Way N.S.� P�Ldley. Mi rrers present.
Nr. Nielaen �lef;y revieWed hie variance requsst, Hr. Clark noted that ths
document that transPerred ten feet to Lhe eaat to Mr. Aie2sen's property xae
recorded on June 10, 1982, ChalrWOman Gabel added that they were atill
discusaing the aame variance requeet, Chairwoman Gabel aslaed about the aize
of t,ha boulevard and Hr, Clark responded that it was ai�c 4eet, An aerial
photograph vaa available as rsre current photographa, Mr, Nie2sen ezplained
tiwt there ia an existing �ick patio, 12x14. rrhioh wuld be where Lhe proposed
deck ie to bs, In additioa, a door vill be added xhere Windows presently exiat.
Chairwoman Gabel aslaad if they had spoken rrith aqy neighbors and Mr, Nielsen
indicated they had and tLe neighbors had voiced no oppoaition, lSr, Barna salaxi
what the use of the room xith the eacape xindox sras and Mr, Nielsen said it
ia presentlq being used aa a bedroom. Mr, �rna aslaad if escape Would etill ba
posaible if the deck was added and Mr, Nislsen aai,d it rrould be,
MJTION by Ha. Gerou seconded by Mr, Plemel, to elose the public hearing, UPON
A VOICE VOYE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIFiWOMAN GA�L IIiECIARED TI� PUBLIC HEARING CIA5ID
AT 7�42 P,M.
MOTION by Mr. Plsmel, seconded bg Mr. Barna. to grant the var3ance to a21ox the
conetruction'of a deck and a nex lront door to bs 15,q1 feet from the Pront property
line instead of the required 25 feet� on Lot 31� and the �reat 10 feet of Lot 32,
Auditor�a Slibdiviaion No. y7, the same bein8 11�-�1� Way N.S. UPON A VOICE V01E,
WI1H 1�'�SSRS, BpRRA AND PIEMEL VOTIZTG AYE, AND x3, GSROU AND CHA�MAN GAffiL VO?ING
NAY, CHAIRWO?SAN GA�L DECIARED �E ZpT7pN TIEp� 1H(75 FAIIED, Chairxoman Gabel
APPEAIS C01�4SIISSION I�:TIItG — J[JI� 15. 1982 PAGE 3
iadieated, !or the raoord�tbat she voted against the motion bscause of the
preodence that sight bs sst for building d�cka in front yards. vhioh dscision
�h� Alt should bs mRds by tbe City Council. a.nd bscause ahe was unsure that a
hardship had bsea satablishsd. She explained that this itsm wuld be referred
to ths City Council and ro�ld appsar on thsir aganda on Ja�y 12, 1962.
2.
I�D TION by 14, Plemel� aeoonded t� Nr. Harna, to opsn tt�s publio hearing, UPON A
YOIC6 V01E, ALL YOTIl�TG AYS, CAAIRWOMAN GAEBL ASCI,AR� THfi PUBLIC HEARIlVG OPfiN AT
7t47 P.H.
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
5312 Altura A�ad N.E.
A. Pi�LIC PURROSE SERVED BY REQUIRENIENT:
Section 205.053, 4B, M4, requires a minimum 5 foot side yard adjoining
an attached garage.
Public purpose served by this requirenent is tn pzovide space between
individual structures to reduce conflagration of fire, to provide access
to the rear yard for emergencies and to limit the rnndition of c mwding
in a residential neighborhood.
8, STATt;D HARDSHIP:
"With existing side door steps, I need a 22 foot wide garage for adec�uate
storage of cars and other accessories."
C. AllMINISTRA2NE STAFF REVIEW:
Zf �e Board approves this request, the staff suggests that the Board
stipulate that the north wall of the proposed garaqe have no openings
and that the exterior vall be 5/B inch type X gypsum board.
l�i. and Pre. *tobert lCtahiahr 5312 Altura Road N.E.. Frid2ey. i8l' vere present.
Ph�. CLrk provided the Con�miasion nembere rith an ae�ial photogreph. aurrsnt
pictnrea ard•proposed conatruction plana, Chairwoman Gabel askad it the
reductina of the garage to s 12 foot z 14 foot atorage aroa vonld allox the
bu11A1ng to t9e Iaa^gs enongh to be oonaidered an acceaaory uae eo that a apecisl
uee paxheit wa requSredT Nr. Clork explained that tbe eicisting house vith the
proposed �ddition almost maets the 25� maximum covenge ao to atay under the 25�
lot cosrerage that dxalling �+onld havs to be reduced. Hr. Rishiah ezplained that
he owned three vehicles, anoti+mobile, boata, canoes all of which require more
atorsge apaca than he present�y has. Chairwomsn Gabel aaked at�out the rrindorra
APP6NIS COI�RSiSSI01Q 1�?IIOG - JONE 15. 1982 PAGS 4
Sn the plana and Mr. Eishiah sxplaSned t2�at hs had apolmn xith Hr. CLrk vho
said tbat �rirs gLsa could bs pnt in a fir� rall. ?�. �ishieh Se�dicatsd an
intsrest in ueing suoh �rindexa as tbat wu]d allox soas Iight to oos 3nto the
garage, T2a xlydovs ia ths honss woul,d bs bloclasd off ud gypeumd, He
added tbat a 13 x lb foot dining area wuld be added to the reu of th� house,
Mr. Plsmel aslasd r2w wo¢ld bs doir►g the wrk and Mr. Eiahiah aaid hs vould do
th� liniahing hissslf but �rould oontract for soms ot it, Chairvoman Gabel aalasd
if 14. Sishish aight juat tsu the sxiating garage dos+n and he said hs v�oul.d,
Mr. $arna aalosd if he vould havs accesa to tbe back yard through a garage door
and Mr,:lCishish eaid h� wnld, Chairwoan Gabel aalmd 1f the eaas siding
�ould bs availabls and Mr, Eiahinh said it ws bnt that bs waa conei,d�ring
atuccoing the ezt�rior� but rhat�vsr hs d!d he �euld alm it conaLt�nt.
I�.atd Mre. Andsraon, nsighbora of ths Eiehish's, Wers aslosd to com� forward.
Hrs. Anderaon indicated that thsir oospLint ras tbat ths addition would C�ing
it too cloae to U» prop�rtJ lin�, eapec]ally xith ths raof overhang. She
also felt that it tirould ent the valns of thslr property to xhich Chairnmu►
Gabel reaponded that Mr. Riahiah's taproving tbe loolrs of hia propert,y wonld
inarease, rather than decreass, t� salus of thsirs. l4r. Eiahiah added that
the City ?Lnner aid he xould werk vith thes on landaeaping to laaep ths propsrty
looking nice. Hr, Anderaon added that he fslt it rould alao create a i►atsr
problen. Chait�romta Gabsl ea�d that ewn if the variance vaa denled Mr. Rishiah
oould still build the garage juat txo fest owr. 5he asked Mr, and Mra. Ander�on
if they could discusa thia rrith the gishiah's to malm it arore palaLhls and Mre.
Anderaon aaid they felt it xas juat too cloae. Appropriate draining ahould be used.
lpTIAN by Na, Gerou, seconded bg Mr, Harna, to closs the public hearing, IIPON A
YOICE VOTE, ALL VDTING AYE, CNAIRMrOMAN GA�L DECLRED THE PDBE�IC HEAR7NG CIASID
AT 8j05 P.M.
Chairwom4n Gabel asked Uat it be noted in tha record that a va1Ld hatdahip
had been e�tablibhed, She aslaed Mr, Clark if theewire glass s+indowa xere
equivalent in safety xith Lhe Yire vall ard Mr, Clark said they were,
MOT20N bq Nr. Barna� seconded by 2�r, Plemel. that the Appeals Cormnisaion reco�end
to the City Council, through the Planning Comm�iaaion, approval of the variance
to reduce the alde yard aetbnnk for an attaahed garage from the raqu�aed 5 feet to
3 feet. to allox the conetavction of a 22 teet by 38 feet attached garage on Iot 32�
Block 6, Carls4n's Slia�it �Ianor South, the saee being 5312 Altura Road N.E, vith
U» etipulatlon that the norTh xall be a firexall �rith $/8 inch typa x gypaum board
and tbat ar�y rindoxs in the north xall bs fire safe ateel mesh xindoxa. UPON A
VOICE V01E, ALL WpT7NG AYE, CHA7RWOMAH GAHEL DECI,ARTsD THE MOTIAN CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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APP&AI3 COAAfI3SI0N lBSTING — JUNS 15. 1982 PAGE 5
MJTION b,y !!r. Pleasl� escond�d iy Na, Geron. to opsn ths puhlic hearing. UPON A
WICS V01S, ALL VOTING A7IE, CHAIRWOMAN GA.SiL DfiCLIR� T�: AIRLIC A�SAIiING OPEN AT
8e10 P.H.
ADMINZSTRATIVE 5771FF REPORT
6271 Jackeon Street N.E.
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENT:
Section 205.053, 4A, requires a front yard setbadc o£ not less than 35 feet.
Public purpose served by this requirene�t is to allaw for off-street parkinq
without encroachin9 on the public right of way and also for aesthetic
oonsideration to reduce the building "line of sight" encroachment into the
neighbor's front yard.
AND/OR
Section 205.053, 48, requires a minimum 10 foot side yard adjoining living
area.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to maintain a minimum of 20 feet
between living areas in adjacent structures and 15 feet between gara9es and
living areas in adjace� t structures to reduce exposure to conflagration of
fire. It is also to allow for aesthetically pleasing open areas around
residential structures.
8. STATED HARDSHIP:
"Only location where I can build a garaqe of the size needed."
C. ADMII7ISTRATIVE STAFf' REVIEI�1:
This home is lowted at the end of Jackson Street and there are no other
hcmes that front on Jackson south of the petitioner. The petitioner wants
to build an attached garage in front of their existing house and have the
access door face north and utilize their existing driveway. They would
also like to keep their existing garage of which they will be requesting a
special use pezmit. If the front yard varianoe is granted and the special
use permit denied, they will then need to convert their exiting garage to
living azea arrl they will need a side yard variance for it. Zf the Board
approves these requests, we would recommend that no windows be placed on
the nortl� wall of the converted garaqe.
Mr..Jamsa H. Croaa� 6271 Jackson Street 1Q,S.. Fr3dlsy, Minneaota raa present,
Mr, Clark auppliad Cosmiaaion members �+ith aerial and current photographa of the
propert,y. Nr, Clark explsined that Mr, Cross xishes to construct a trro car
garags xith the driveway off to the north and lceep his exiating garage for
mlacelLneous atorags, Tb do this he s�ould aead a apec7sl use permit for the
seoond garage, Mr, CLrk sugge�ted that the Com�oisaion membera deal xith �dch
isauea aeparate�y, He said that the nortl�er�y nsighbor had �lled and atafwd
they ti+ould rather see the old garage left as a garage and not made into living
quartsra. Mr. Croae said that although they plan to build a doubls garage they
APPEALS COMlfISSION I�ETING - JQNS 15. 1962 PAGE 6
intexd to install a sis6le door and nae it for atonge. Chairwman Gabel aalasd
Mr. Crosa to estatllah the hardahip and he said he haa three vehicles, a camping
trail,sr, boat trailar and a single earags,
Nr. Cross sakad tLat the var]ance requeat to rsdnes the a3de yard aetback frem
10 fsst to j feet on 12►e living side of the dwelling eo the sxidting garage can be
ooavert�d to living area be struck from the r�queat. $e stated that thsy either
wnt to go ahead rith t�o garages and obtain a epecial use permit or stay xith
ehat tLep have rtov. He added that the ma�ority oP Ua work xould be done by
themaelwa. Chairxom4n Gabel indicatsd that there �rse no one Who would be
Smpacted by tbe viaual change becauae oP xhere the d�»lling ia located.
1+DTIDN by t4. Pl.emal� seoonded by Ma, Gerou, to close the public hearing, UPON
A YOZCE VOTE,AIS. YOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN GA�;L I�CLARID 1HE pUBI,IC HEARING CIASID
AT 8�27 P.M. The hardahip established ia the need for etorage of vehicles.
NOTION by Ma. Gerou, seco�ed by Mr, Plemel, tq grant the variance request ta
reduce the front ysrd aetback from the requ3red 3g it, to 11 ft, to allow the
oonatruction of a 22 Yt, Yy 24 ft, attached garage� subjeet to the apprnval of
a apecial nse permit for a sacond assessory building at 6271 Jackaon Street N.E.,
F�idley, Hinnesota. DPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYS, CHA7R410MAN GABEL DDCU+RBD
TAE MOTION CARRIPD UNANIaK1USLY,
MOTION by Ma. Gsron. aecorded by lh�, Barna� to den�y the requeet to reduce t,he
aLde yard setback from 10 feet to $ fest on the living aide of the dwelling, ao
ths eziating garags can be oonwrted to living area on Lot 4� Block 1, 7rer�e
Asnry Addition, the aaae bsing 6271 Jackson Street N6� bsaed on tLe petltioners
request and the neighbor'a objections, DPON A YOICE VO�, ALL VOTING AYE,
CHAIHWOMAN GABEL DfiCIARID Tf� MOTION CARR� tTNAN1M(HISLY.
O1iiER SIgIj�SSt
Chairwoman Gabel requeated Lhat Mr, Clark have avai].able for each Commisaion
member at the nezt meeLing a copy of the memorandum dated Auguat 2, 1979, from
Mr. Hereck to the Fridlsy City Couneil tirhich dealt xith variance information.
Chaix�oman Gabel addreased the subjeot of having a handout avai]sble for people
coming into Hr. Clark'a oYfice on hox to prepare for sn appearance before the
Appeala Co�isaion. Mr. Clark said that he does indicate to people hor to
prepare� but if the Commisaion desired he would drax up a shorL checklist for
people to fo12oW (i,e, have other altsrnativea been considered. xhat ie the
haxdship� and xhat to expect).
�.J4�T�
MOTiON ty Nr, Barna� seconded l7y Mr, Plemel. tq adjo�urn, OPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL
VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOHAN 4APEI. DSCIARED THE APPEALS COMMISSYON l�TING OF NNE 15, 1982.
ADJOURN� AT 8�45 P.tJ.
Pat Von Moach
Recording Seoretary
CITY OF fRIDLEY
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
MEETING
JUNE 1, 7982
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Kondrick called the June 1, 1982, Parks & Recreation Corimission
meeting to order at 7:33 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present:
Members Absent:
Others Present:
Dave Kondrick, Mary Schreiner, Dick Young
Jan Seeger, Dan Allen
Charles Boudreau, Parks & Recreation Director
Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
APPROVAL OF MAY 4 1982 PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION h�INUTES:
MOTION BY MR. YOUNC,� SECONDED BY MS. SCHREINER� TO APPROVE THE MAY 4, 29B2� PARXS &
RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE MOTION CRRRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
The following items were added to the agenda:
°Gorrection to May l9, 1982, Planning Commission minutes" - Item B under
"Director's Report"
"Renewal of Lease with DNR for Gil Hodges Island" - Item c under "New Besiness"
"Springbrook Nature Center" - Item a under "Other Business"
"C�rmission Meeting Date" - Item b under "Other Business"
MOTION BY MR. YOUNG� SECONDED BY MS. SCXREINER� TO APPROVE THE AGENDR AS RMENDED.
tJPON A VOIC& VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON KONDRICX DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY,
1. DIRECTOR'S REPORT:
a. Caianunication - Les Gerdin
Dr. Boudreau stated he has received a letter dated May 19, 1982, from
Les Gerdin, the Treasurer of the Fridley Covenant Church Athletic
Association. In the letter, Mr. Gerdin stated they have very much
PARKS & RECREATION COPIMISSION MEETING JllNE 1 1982 PAGE 2
appreciated the kindness and cooperation extended to their athletic
association by the Fridley Parks & Recreation Department. Mr. Gerdin
stated they will not be holding a softball tournament this year at
Carmons Park; however, they would like to hold the option open to hold
a tournament in the future.
Dr. Boudreau stated the Fridley Covenant Church is one of the four
recognized tournaments that has beeo allowed in the City in the past
by City Council. The reason Fridley Covenant Church will not be holding
their tournament this year is because a church in another community
is hosting the tournament, but they would like to keep the option open
to stay as one of the four recognized tournaments in the City of Fridley.
The other three are the Firefighters' Relief Association, the Jaycees,
and the Fridley Tiger Hockey Booster Club.
MOTION BY MS. SCHREINER� SECONDED BY MR. YOUNG� TO RECEIVE THE LETTER
DATED MAY Z9� 1982� FROM LES GERDIN� FRIDiEY COVENANT CHURCH� AND TD ALLOW
FRIDLEY COVENANT CNURCH THE OPTION TO CONTINi1E AS ONE OF THE FOUR
RECOGNSZED TOURNRMENTS IN THE CITY OF FRIDLEY.
Ms. Schreiner stated that if they were to have other requests, was there
any problem with having more requests than the four already recognized?
Dr. Boudreau stated that in the six years he has been with the City of
Fridley, there has only been one private group, outside of the four recog-
nized non-profit groups, that made a request to host a tournament. It
was the considered opinion of the Parks & Recreation Comnission that this
request be denied, because it would make five tournaments. However, one
of the four recognized groups decided not to host a tourn�eaent, so the
City Council did allow this private group to host their tournament. How-
ever, the City Council has looked at non-profit organizations as legitimate
hosts for softball tournaments and not private groups.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTINC, RYfi� CHRIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIfiD DNANIMOUSLY.
b. Correction to May 19, 1982, Planning Corrmission minutes
Dr. Boudreau referred to the May 19th Planning Comnission minutes, paqe 9,
Item 4, "Receive May 4, 1982, Parks & Recreatien Cortmission minutcs", He
stated that ir paragraph 3, Ms. Gabel had asked Mr. Kondrick how the Parks
& Recreation Department handles the process when people cannot afford to
participate in city programming. Mr. Kondrick had stated there was a
form that has to 6e fiiled out, but the Parks & Recreation Department has
anly four people on record who have signed up saying they are unable to
pay for the programming, and most people usually offer ta pay something.
Mr. Kondrick had also stated that the City advertises that if people
cannot afford programming, it can be worked out. Ms. Gabel had stated
that the recent sumner Parks & Recreation program brochure did not have
such a statement which bothered her.
P_ARKS & RECREATION COMMTSSION MEETING, JUNE 7, 1982 PAGE 3
Dr. Boudreau gave each of the Commission members a copy of the page
entitled, "Registration" which was included with the summer Parks &
Recreation program brochure and which is included with every program
brochure and has been ever since City Council approved that policy.
He stated he wanted to ca71 the Parks & Recreation Cortenission and
Planning Gommission's attention to Item (D) "Fee Adjustment", which
states: "No individual shall be restricted fran participation due to
inability to pay. For future information, please contact the Park,
Recreation, and Natural Resource Department."
Mr. Kondrick thanked Dr. Boudreau far bri�ging that to their attention.
2. NEW BUSINESS:
a. Department Operating Policy Manual
Ms. Schreiner stated that recently she had asked Dr. Boudreau for a
copy of the Parks & Recreation Department's policy manual. She stated
she was surprised to learn that the Parks & Recreation Department does
not have a policy manual. She stated almost every board or group she
has been associated with has had some type of policy manual that contains
some basic guidelines for the group to follow. She felt a policy manual
would help City staff, the Commission, and would be a great service to
the citizens. She felt the Canmission should discuss the possibility of
putting together such a manual and asked how the other Commission members
fe7t about this.
Mr. Kondrick stated he felt it was a great idea. Mr. Young agreed.
Dr. Boudreau stated he was a strong backer of this type of operational
manual,
Mr. Young suggested that Dr. Boudreau
park departments in other communities
together a policy manual for Fridley.
get sane policy manuals from other
to use as a guideline in putting
Dr. Boudreau stated there are seven or eight different areas that would
have to be covered in the policy manual. He would like to have input
from the Commission members on those areas, and Staff could come up with
a recommendation for the basic policies within about six months. He
stated he would bring some sample policy manuals from other communities
to the next meeting, and he would aiso prepare a simple format for the
Canmission to follow.
Proposed Capital Outlay Items for 1983
Dr. Boudreau stated that, as the Cmrmission members knew, the Park &
Recreation Commission's charter ca11s for their concurrence on capital
outlay itens for the coming year to be submitted as part of the budget,
PARKS & RECREATION COhiMISSION MEETING JUNE 1 1982 PAGE 4
(The proposed capital outlay request for 1983 is attached to these
minutes.)
Dr. Boudreau stated he would like to encourage the Canmission mem6ers
to ]ook over these items. If they come up with any questions, additions,
etc., he would ask them to write these down under the appropriate
division so the Camnissian can make reco�nendations at the July meeting.
c. Renewal of Lease with Department of Natural Resources (DNR) for
Git Hodges Island
Dr. Boudreau stated he saw no reason not to renew the lease with DNR
for Gil Hodges Island, because it is part of the Islands of Peace
development. The lease is for ten years. He fett it added to the City's
park syst�n. It was under the Caunty's maintenance and operational
control because of the joint powers agreement, so it did not cost the
City anything to have it known as part of the City's park syst�n.
MOTIDN BY 1�Z. YOUNG, SECONDED BY MS. SCXREINER� TO RENEW THE TSN YEAR
LERSE WITH DNR FOR GSL HODGES ISLAND.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRSED UNANIMOUSLY.
3, OLD BUSINESS:
a. Housing & Redevelopment Authority Center City Project - Jerrold Boardman
Mr. 8pardman stated the Corrmission had asked him to come to this meeting
to discuss the Center City project. He stated he would also outline all
the tax increment districts so the Conxnission members were aware of
everything that is going on.
Mr. Boardman stated the Center City project was the first tax increment
district established in 1978. The Moore Lake Redevelopment District
was the second tax increment district established in May 1981, and the
North Area Redevelopment District was the third tax increment district
established in Nov. 1981.
Mr. Young stated that no one seems to know what is going on. He knew of
ane businessman adjacent and directly affected by the new proposed
Columbia Park medical faci7fty who knew nothing about what was going on.
He asked why the people who are directly involved are not notified.
Mr. Boardman stated the people who are directly involved in the Center
City project and all business people were notified when the district was
established. The Chamber of Commerce was involved in the establishment
of the district, notices were published in the papers, and public hearings
were held for all three districts.
PARKS & RECREATION COMh1ISSI0N MEETING, JUNE 1 1982 PAGE 5
Mr. Young stated he knew people who live one block fran the Center City
project who know nothing about what is going on. There have been no
neighborhood meetings to notify these people.
Mr. Boardman stated that when the district was established, they notified
people within 350 ft. of the district. This is the process they are
required to follow by law in the development of the districts.
Mr. Boardman stated the Center City project area was established because
they felt there were some major problems in this area--deterioration of
buiidings, placement of buildings, traffic problems, inappropriate use
of lands, etc. The assessed values in this area are depreciating, and
the utilization of land is probably less than it should be.
Mr. Boardman stated that in the Moore Lake area, there are bad soil
conditions, drainage conditions, and the clean-up of Moore Lake is a
big issue in this area.
Mr. Boardman stated the North Area is probably the least planned district
at this time. The primary reasons it was established as a tax increment
district were (1) because of the pressures of state law in the changing of
tax increment districts; and (2) if they felt there was a need for a tax
increment district due to bad soil conditions, this was an area with
very bad soil, They also have enormous drainage problems in this area.
He stated they are working with Mr. St, Clair and Dr. Boudreau to see
h�w the tax increment district can assist Springbrook Nature Center as
far as soil removal, dredging, etc., because by assisting in the park,
they are also assisting in the overall drainage problems.
Mr. Boardman stated they are working on several different proposals in
the Center City project at this time. They have earmarked six phases in
the development. Those phases are the areas that need the most amount of
work. He stated the one thing they are trying to do is develop an overall
element so people will know they are in a cohesive, we17 designed area.
Mr. Boardman stated that south of City Hall, they have contracted with
Columbia Park Properties to build a 28,000 sq. ft. clinic with an option
for an additional 28,000 sq, ft., for a total of 56,000 sq. ft.
Mr. Boardman stated they are looking at an urban density in the Center
City district, something that will be a benefit to the City and wi71 draw
residents to use the facilities. In order to do that, they have to develop
some density in the area. They are looking at relocating 64th Ave.,
narrowing it down to a 26 ft. wide service road, putting a bend or curve
in it to service the clinic, and freeing up space to develop a 36,000 sq. ft,
office building that will be in conjunction with City Hall and the clinic.
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 1, 1982 PAGE 6
Mr. Boardman stated that as part of this development. they are ]ookinq
at doing a civic plaza or mall area in this general location. They have
just gone out with a landscape architect competition. They have selected
four firms who will be competing for $1,000 to do a design. The design
will include a model of the plaza. They are looking at a p]aza site that
is going to cannect City Hatl with the office building and the clinic.
Besides the plaza area, they are also doing a scheme for development of
the entire greenway system. At this point in time, they are looking at
a round $500,000 for this design.
Ms. Schreiner asked if the City was addressing the potential traffic
problems in this area.
Mr. Boardman stated they are addressing that issue and are in the process
of getting a traffic design engineer to study the major traffic points
and how to handle the traffic flow.
Mr. Young asked about parking.
Mr. Boardman stated that with the office and City Ha71, they figure they
will need about 150 parking stalls.
Mr. Kondrick asked if Mr. Boardman felt the loss of Eisenhower Park was
necessary in the overall scheme of the developnent.
Mr. Boardmah stated it was. He stated Eisenhower Park is a very nice area,
but in the development of their overall scheme, they need to have a density,
so they are taking the park area to make it a more usable space.
Mr. Boardman stated they are talking about a highly developed, but also
an interesting, intriguing landscaped area, With the plaza area, they
are looking at something that will hold a function of about 150-200 people,
they want public and private spaces, probably have retaining walls,
planters, and that kind of thing,but there will also be quite a bit of
green spaces. There will be a combination of soft and hard spaces.
Ms. Schreiner asked what the
the business people already
building are going in.
City has been doing in relocating or helping
located in this area where the clinic and office
Mr. Boardman stated the City is required by law to pay re7ocation costs.
They are also trying to keep those businesses in Fridley if they can. They
have been forward and very upfront with the business people in trying to
assist them, wherever and however possible, but there are going to be
certain businesses they wi71 not be able tn relocate in Fridley.
Mr. Young stated he was not so opposed to this development now that
Mr. Boardman had explained all the parkway that is being planned.
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PARKS & RECREATION COMMiSSION MEETING; JUNE'1, 1982 pAGE 7
Mr. Boardman stated they are working with the UFW in the relocation of
the monument and with the Garden Club for help in the plaza area.
He stated Eisenhower Park will remain there until an office project can
be put together. Right now the office pr�ject has not yet been canpleted.
Ms. Schreiner stated from what she has heard, the City will not be
enfringing on any more park area, and if they do, they will let the
Caimission know.
Mr. Boardman stated they are not trying to destroy any parks. Eisenhower
Park is not necessarily a park facility. It was never dedicated as a
park, but was held by the City for parking. The City didn't need the
parking at the time, so it was made into a park until such a time as the
expansion was needed. The main thing they are trying to develop is some
kind of scheme in the Center City area, and in the other areas they are
trying to assist the parks as much as possible.
The Cormnissioners thanked Mr. Boardman for coming to the meeting and
sharing this information with them.
b. Request by Terry Merriman'
Mr. Kondrick stated he had received a 7etter fran Mr. Dave Torkildson,
�irector of Anoka County Parks & Recreation dated May 21, 1982, along
with a copy of the trail plans for the Rice Creek Regional Trail, in
order to clear up and state the County's intentions for the park land
immediately behind the hanes on Rice Creek Terrace. Mr. Torkildson
stated that: "the trail runs along the upper banks of the Rice Creek
Valley, and it is the intention of the County Department to reforest the
area directly south of said trail. We also agree that the flat land
referred to as the Northern 5tates Power Line easement directly behind
the hanes on Rice Creek Terrace wi17 he cut by the County of Anoka Park
Department as needed. Future development plans would be to complete
the bicycle trail to the north once money is made available fran Metro
Council; and with the approval of the fridley Park Commission and the
City Council, create a new entrance and parkway to service Locke Park
picnic area. Unless future residents of Fridley or the City Council
were to request the County to consider other developments along the
Rice Creek park land, the County of Anoka Park Department has no addi-
tional deve7opment plans for this area."
Mr, Ko�drick stated a copy of this letter has gone to Mr. Merriman. He
stated Mr. Torkildson has been very helpful in resolving this prob7em.
4. OTHER BUSINESS:
a. Springbrook Nature Center
Mr. Young stated that a couple of weeks ago a Special Education teacher
fran the Spring Lake Park 5chool District took some trainable mentally
handicapped students to Springbrook Nature Center. He stated the teacher
was totally impressed with Mr. St. Clair and the program.
PARKS & RECREATION CONlh1ISSI0lV MEETING, JUNE 1, 7982 PAGE 8
Mr, Kondrick stated that was good to hear, and he thought this was going
to be typical of the results of the programming Mr. St. Clair and
Ms. Diann Valen will be running.
b. Commission Meeting Date
Dr. Boudreau stated it seemed like it has been getting harder and harder
to get a quorum for the monthly meetings. A short time ago, the
Comnission members discussed an alternate meeting date and decided on
the first Tuesday of the month, and still every month ii is a guessing
game as to whether there will be a quorum, He stated he would like to
suggest that the Comnission members consider whether it is a necessity
to meet every month, especially during the surtwner months. There is no
rule that says the Commission has to have monthly meetings, and they
always have the ability to call a special meeting if an item needs
atte�tion. He thought that if there were fewer meetings, perhaps there
would be 100� attendance.
Mr. Kondrick stated he felt that once a month is not that much of a"put
out" for most people. He felt this is something the Co�nission members
shoutd definitely discuss at the next meeting and hopefully all Commission
members will be present. Tf the Commission is going to undertake the
development of a policy manual, it is going to take some time, and he did
not think they should be skipping any meetings.
Qr. Boadreau stated he felt that if the Commission is going to function
as a really working advisory commission and there are five people appointed
to that canmission, then there ought to be input from five people.
Ms, Schreiner stated she felt that if they only met once every month,
they would lose impetus, and they lose what is happening, especia]ly
if they do take on the policy manual project.
Mr,Kondrick stated this would be on next month's agenda.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MS. SCHREINfiR� SECONDED BY AII2. YOUNG� TO RDJOURN TNE MEETING. UPON A
VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLRRED TXE JUNE 1� 1982�
PARKS & RECRERTION CORIMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 10:20 P.M.
Respectfully submi ted,
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Recording Secretary
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 23, 1982
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairwoman Schnabel called the June 23, 1982, Plannin9 Commission meeting to
order at 7:33 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Saba, Ms. Gabel, Mr. Svanda, Mr. Oquist,
Mr. Kondrick, Ms, van Dan
Members A6sent: IJone
Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
Patricia Hardel, 332 - 64th Ave. N.E.
Steven Hardel, 336 - 64th Ave. N.E.
Thomas F. Ryan, 6389 University Ave. N.E.
APPROVAL OF JUNE 9, 1982, PtANNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MR. OQUI5T, TO APPROVE THE JUNE 9, I982,
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRISTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYS� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SP #82-07 BY
GERALD HARTMAN: Per Section 205.13 , 3, A, 2, to a ow an auto auction
on the North 240 feet of the Southeast Quarter of the Northeast Quarter of
Section 3, the same beinq 8290 Main Street N.E.
Mr. Boardman stated the People's Auction has mbved out of Fridley to a new
]ocation, and the�specia7 use permit request has been witfidrawn by request of
the petitioner, Mr. Hartman.
2. VACATION REQUEST, SAV #82-01, BY THE FRIDLEY HOUSIN6 & REDEVELOPMENT
ALiTAORI�Y: acate t 5treet etween o%� an , an t e 2 foot
a e�iy in Block 4, Ree's Addition to Fridley Park. (Block 5 alley vacated
Ordinance 208) (6alance of streets and alleys fran Mississippi to 64th
Avenue vacated February 23, 1953, in Book 292, Page 219, Anoka County
Records).
Mr. Boardman stated this item was continued from the last meeting, He stated
he has talked to the people who were in the audience at ihe June 9th meeting.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING JUNE 23, 1982
Mr. Boardman stated that, as the Commission Was aware, the HRA was working with
Columbia Park Properties on a medica] clinic. As a condition with Columbia Park
Properties, the HRA needs to go through some vacations of property. The reason
for the vacation is because they need to deed the property within the 4th St.
right-of-way to Columbia Park Properties for the construction of their building.
They have deeded all that property at this point in time to Columbia Park Properties.
They have reached an agreement for negotiation for purchase with Mr. Gus Doty for
the property he owns, Lots 4, 5, 6, 7-11. The HRA has an option on that property,
and the HRA has approved the option and has approved the negotiated price. They
are now in the process of getting the attorneys to give a title opinion on the
updated abstract.
Mr. Boardman stated it was his understanding from the City Counci7 on Monday
that while the HRA was in the process of vacating 4th St., they should go ahead
and vacate all the properties, because the HRA is committed with contract with
Columbia Park Properties to purchase all of Block 4 and Block 5, They are
required to purchase the easterly 1/2 of Block 4 within 240 days of the date of
the contract, which was April 15; therefore, the property has to be acquired by
Dec. 15 and turn title over to Columbia Park Properties.
Mr.Boardman stated they have made an offer to the property
�wners. That offer was out today, but it is a slow process. They have set up
negotiation meetings for July 7 for the acquisition of the garage and the house--
332 and 336 - 64th Ave. He stated they are required by contract to acquire the
shopping center and Mr. Ryan's property and have that property torn down by
July 1983 at the date of the opening of the clinic. They have held up with any
neqotiations or appraisal on Mr. Ryan's property at the request of Mr, Ryan with
the understanding that he does know the HRA wi11 start appraisa7 and acquisition
on his property in Dec. or Jan. 1983.
Mr. Boardman stated with this in mind and with a17 the other issues invo7ved
within vacation, it is their intent to go ahead and at least go through the
process of vacating all the property the HRA is in the process of acquiring. It
was his understanding the City Council would like to see ihe process happen all
at the same time; however, they are not going to be publishing the ordinance for
vacation until the HRA actually owns the properties. The HRA will not cut off
�y access or tear up any access on any property they do not own. For that reason,
they are looking at the vacation of 4th St., except the northerly 100 ft. The
reasom they don't need that 100 ft.is that, with the relocation of 64th Ave, per
the overall development plan, they would use the northerly 100 ft. as street
right-of-way; therefore, it is not necessary to vacate it. They would also like
to see the alley vacated.
Mr. Boardman stated that, at this time, the City Manager has directed him to
also bring before the P7anning Comnission that portion of 64th Ave. between
Block 5 and Block 2 of Ree's Addition to Fridley Park, Again, as he had said
before, the reason the City Council wanted to do this is to get the process
started, get the process out of the way, and then as the HRA purchases and owns
the property, at that time the only �ocess left will be notification in the paper
that the street is vacated.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 23, 1982 PAGE 3
Mr. Boardman stated he thought it should be a stipulation ef the Planning
Commission that there will be no notification of the vacations �mtil the HRA
acquires and owns the properties. He stated the City Council w�ll have the public
hearing on July 12, and they will have the first and second readings some time
after that. The City Council wi71 hold up on the publishing of the notice of
vacation. The ordinance cannot go into effect until after publication in the
paper. Fifteen days after the notification, the vacation goes into effect.
Mr. Boardman stated he had talked to Mr. Harvey Peterson, legal counsel for
Mr. Ryan, Mr. Peterson had suggested that as part of the vacation, the HRA or
City Council have something in writing that says the alley will not be vacated
until the HRA either acquires or takes an acquisition on the property. There-
fore, the property owners would have full use of the alley, and it would not
impede their access to their properties.
Mr. Boardman stated he would be open, based on legal opinion from the City
Attorney, to agreements for access, if agreements are necessary.
Mr. Ryan stated he would like some kind of written agreement.
Mr. Steve Hardel stated that besides guaranteeing his access to his garage, he
would also like a guarantee that his garage is going to be able to remain open.
With the plan to put in sewer and water and reroute 64th Ave., if he has no access
to his front door, he has no business.
Mr, Boardman stated what will affect Mr. Hardel's business the most is the con-
struction that will be going on to put in a new 4th Street. He stated they will
have to work with the contractors on this to maintain an opening for access to
Mr. Hardel's garage.
Mr. Ryan stated he has been in Fridley for 22 years and has built up a pretty
good business. He just could not understand how somebody else in another business
could come into the City of Fridley, say they want to build a clinic, choose
whatever property they want, and then the existing buildings have to come down.
It seemed to him that if someone wants to buy his property, that person/persons
should come to him personally.
Ms. Schnabel stated the members of the Planning Commission were very sympathetic
to Mr. Ryan's concerns and what he is going througfi. She explained that one thing
that happened several years ago was the City decided it needed to upgrade the
"downtown Fridley", the most identifiable area being what is now the Center City
area. In the process, because things were financially a lot 6etter at that time,
the City re-established the HRA, identified some areas to be developed, and with
a broad brush stroke, included a lot of land.
Ms. Patty Hardel stated it seemed it would have been more feasible to put the
clinic in an area where the City already owns the land, instead of acquir�ng more
to give the clinic this site.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 23, 1982 PAGE 4
Mr. Boardman stated they did show the Columbia Park peop7e all the sites available
in the City, and Columbia Park Properties selected the site they felt was the
best for their business. He stated the clinic is a very stable business, and
the City did not have to do a lot of promotion to develop or to maintain that
clinic; however, in order to attract commercial/retail/office, they have to have
visibility and easy access, so the property to the north of University would be
a lot easier to promote for that kind of b�siness than the property south of
City Hall.
MOTION BY MR. OQUIST, SECONDED BY Iffi2. KONDRICK� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF VACRTION REQUE5T, SAV #82-01� 8Y THE FRSDLEY HOU5ING & REDEVELOPMENT
AUTHORITY, TO VRCASE 4TH STREET BETWEEN BLOCKS 4 AND 5� EXCEPT TNE NORTH�RLY I00
FEET� AND THE 12 FOOT ALLEY IN BLOCK 4� REE'S ADDITION TO FRIDLEY PARK. (BI,OCK 5
ALLEY VACATED ORDINANCE 208J (BALANCE OF STREETS AND ALLEYS FROM MISSISSIPPI TO
64TH AVENUE VACRTED FEB. 23� 1953 IN BOOK 292� PRGE 219, ANOKA COUNTY RECORDS)�
WITH THE STIPULATION THAT SHE VACATSON BE PUBLISHED ONLY AS THE HRA RCQUIRES THE
PROPERSY AND THRT� IF LEGALLY ADVTSABLE BY THE CITY ATTORNEY� THE HRR ENTER SNTO
WHATEVER LEGAL AGREEMENTS ARE NECESSARY FOR ACCESS.
UPON A VOTCE VOTE� ALL VOTINC AYE� CHAIRWQMAN 5CHNA8EL DECL�I2ED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Schnabel stated this item would go to City Council for public hearing on
July 12.
3. RECEIVE JUNE 10, 1982, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS. VAN DAN� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL, TO RECEIVE THE JUNE Z0� 2982�
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES.
Ms. van Dan stated the accessibility survey has been progressing very well. They
have had over a 50% return. She stated the project should be completed by the
end of August.
Ms. van Dan stated the Corronission was quite upset when they were informed a few
hours prior to their meeting that the City Counci] had decided not to fund any
of the funding requests. The Commission was both angered and annoyed that the
City Council had not made this decision earlier because the people took a lot
of time to prepare their presentations. It was also a waste of the money they
have so little of.
Ms, van Dan stated the Commission has decided to continue to review the funding
requests and make recommendation to the City Council that they reconsider their
decision. She realized the funding requests are much 7arger than they have been
in the past, but she would like the Planning Commission to know what these
requests are:
Central Center for Family Resources - requesting $5,000. In the past, 27%
o t eir services ave een provi ed to Fridley residents; whereas, in the
past Fridley has only funded 6-7%, so the City has not real7y offered them
that much to start with.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 23, 1982 PAGE 5
North Subur6an Famil Services Center - requesting $3,000-6,000. They
serve approximate y 20 rid ey resi ents on a subsidized sliding fee scale.
Southern Anoka Communit Assistance (SACA) - requesting $2,500. They
serve 3 5 ri ey resi ents out of a tota 887 so Frid7ey residents repre-
sent almost 50q of the people served.
The Alexandra House, Inc. - requesting $3,000. According to their statistics,
t ere are 330 women in Fridley who are considered battered women, 20 of
them have gone to Alexandra House for service. Their question is: Where
do the other 310 go?
Fridle Creative Pla Center - requesting $4,000. 64 of the 94 families
serve are Fri ey resi ents.
Ms. van Dan stated she was sure all of these organizations have gone to as many
sources of funding as possible.
Ms. van Dan stated the Commission would like to gather all the facts and have
5-6 good reasons why they think the funding requests should be reviewed. They
are also reviewing the 1983 city budget very carefully. Some of the commissioners
feel priorities may be high in certain areas, and maybe they can make some
recommendations regarding the budget.
Mr. Svanda stated he thought that rather than cutting the funding out entirely,
the City Council should have looked at a gradual reduction. Cutting off those
funds so abruptly cou7d have a gross impact on the people who were getting that
funding.
Mr, Oquist stated he did not know how the City Council could make such a decision
like this without first sitting down and reviewing the city budget. How can they
make pri�rities until they see what all the priorities are?
his. van Dan stated she, Mr. Treuenfels, and Mr. Goodspeed attended the State
Department of Human Right's No-Fault Grivance Procedure training session on
June 19 at City Hall. She stated that if and when the City decides they would
like to carry on with this program, the three commissioners are now certified to
hear grievances.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MINUTES
RECENED.
MOTION BY MS, GABEL� SECONDED BY MR. SVANDA� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL THAT
THEY TAKE A LOOK A2' TXE FOLLOWING FIGfIRES SHOWING HOW THESE DIFFERENT ORGANIZA-
TIONS SERVE THE CITIZENS OF FRIDLEY� AND TO RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL RECONSIDER
THEIR DECISION TO TERMINATE ALL FUADING TO SSRVICE ORGANIZATIONS UNTIL THEY COME
TO THE ACTUAL BUDGET REVIEW PROCESS,
CENTRAL CENSER-FOR�FAMILY RESOURCES - REQUESTING $S�OOOp 27% OF THEIR
5ERVICES PROVIDED TO FRIDLEY RESIDENTS� FRIDLEY HAS ONLY FUNDED 6-7%.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 23, 1982 PAGE 6
NORTH SUBURBAN�FAMILY�SERVICES CENTER - REQUESTING $3,000-6,000; SER[�E'
APPROX. 220 FRIDL�Y RESIDBNT5 ON A 5UBSIDIZED SLIDTNG FEE SCALE.
SOL7THERN RNOXA COMMUNITY ASSI5TANCE (SACA) - REQUESTING $2�500; SERVED
385 FRIDLEY RESIDENTS DUT OF A TOTAL 887.
THE ALEXRNDRA HOUSE� INC. - REQUESTING $3,000; OUT OF 330 BATTERED WOMEN
IN FRIDLEY� 20 HAVE GONE TO AL&XANDRA XOU5E. WHERE DO THE OTHER 3l0 GO?
FRIDLEY CREATIVE PLAY CENTER - REQUESTING $4�DOOp 64 OF THE 94 FAMILIES
5ERVED ARE FRIDLEY RESIDENTS.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING RYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHAABEL DECLARED THE MOTiON
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
5. RECEIVE JUNE 15, 1982, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTIQN BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO RECEIVE THE JUNE 15� 1982� APPEALS
COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHARBEL DECLARED THE MOSION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
6, RECEIVE JUNE 1, 1982, PARKS & RECREATIaN COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. XONDRICK, SECONDED BY MS. VAN DAN� TO RECEIVE THE JUNE 1, 1982�
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
7, ELECTION OF PLANNING COMMISSIOP! VICE-CHAIRPERSON FOR 1982-83:
Chairwoman Schnabel declared the naninations open for vice-chairperson.
MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY..MR, KONDRICK, TO RE-NOMINATE LEROY OQUIST FOR
VICE-CHAiRPERSON.
MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY MR. SRBA� TO CAST A UNANIMOUS VOTE FOR LEROY OQUTST
AS VICE-CHAIRPERSON OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR .I982-83,
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNRBEL DECI,ARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MR. OQUIST� SECONDED BY MR, KONDRICK� TO RDJOURN TNE MEETING. UPON R
VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAZRWOMAN SCHNRBEL DECLARED THE JUNE 23� 2982� PLANNIl7G
COMAtISSION MEETING ADTOURNED AT 9:45 P.M,
Res ectfully sub itted,
Ce��
Lynne Saba. Recording Secretary