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PL 10/27/1982 - 6784PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CALL TO ORDER: ROLL CALL: City of fridley AGENDA WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 27, 1982 APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: SEPTEMBER 29, 1982 7:30 P.M. PAGES 1-2 PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #82-10, BY VIKING 3- 12 CHEUROLET: Per Section 205.101, 3, B, to allow the storage of new vehicles on adjacent property, Strite-Anderson, described as Parcel 2700 in the North One Half of Section 12, the same being 7585 Viron Road N.E. (Vikin9 Chevrolet, 7501 Uiron Road N.E.). 2. VACATION REQUEST: SAV #82-03, PARK CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, BY 13 - 14 RICHARD A. CARL50N: Yacate Lon9fellow Street between Lots 18-23 in Block 5, and between Lots 24 - 27, Block 4, Spring Brook Park, and vacate alley in Block 4, Spring Brook Park, betweeen Lots 22 and 23, and Lots 24-27, all East of Burlington Northern railroad tracks, to be part of equipment yard at 7900 Beech Street N.E. 3. RECEIVE HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES: SEPTEMBER 16, WHITE 1982 4. RECEIVE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES: SEPTEMBER 21, 1982 5. A. (page 7) Motion regardin9 recommendation on funding for � Northeast Cnamber and City Band 6. RECEIVE ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES: SEPTEMBER 28, 1982 A. � Motion to Council that the request for stop siyns at 45th Avenue and 2 1/2 Street be denied. (Page 2) See recortmendation from Columbia Heights (at8ached to minutAs) 7. RECEIUE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES: OCTOBER 7, 1982 A. � Page 4- Recommend to City Council the establishment of a no-fault grievance procedure committee and Express the Human Resource Commission's appreciation to the City Council for the funding of three organizations BLUE GREEN ORCHID . '1�u;1� Planning Commission Agenda October 27, 1982 Page 2 8. RECEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: OCTOBER 12, 1982 YELLOW � 10. OTHER BUSINESS: ISSION MINUTES: OCTOBER 13. BLUE A. No Items for November 3rd meeting (Cancel?) Next meeting November 17, 1982 !� ADJOURNMENT: PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION Notice is hereby given that there will be a Publi.c Hearing of the Planning Comnission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431 University Avenue Northeast on 4lednesday. October 27, 1982, in the Council Chamber at 7:30 P.M. for the purpose of: Consideration of a request for a 5pe�ial Use Permit, SP N82-10, by Viking Chevrolet of 7501 Yiron Road N.E., per Section 205.101, 3, B. to allow the storage of new vehicies on adjacent property described as Parcel 2710, in the North Half of Section 12, the same being 7585 Viron Road N.E. (Strite-Anderson Company). Any and a11 persons desiring to be heard sha11 be given an opportunity at the above stated time and place. VIRGINIA SCHNABEL CHAIRWOMAN PLANNING COMMISSION Publish: October 13, 1982 October 20, 1982 ,, PLANNING COMMISSION October 12, 1982 City Counci MAILING LIST SP #82-10, Viking Chevrolet - 7501 Viron Road N.E. Parking of New Vehticles on adjacent property (Strite-Anderson) Mark Dooley Viking Chevrolet Co. 7501 Highway #65 N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Strite-Anderson Company 7585 Viron Road N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 M. G. Astleford Co. 1200 W. Hwy. 13 Savage, MN 55378 Milton G. Ouimette 7625 Viron Rd. N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Midway Nationl Bank 1578 University Ave. St. Paul, MN 55104 J. D. Maxwell 2931 Partridge Rd. Roseville, MN 55113 Servomation Corp. 7490 Central Ave. N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Peter R. Brook 1130 Frieside Dr. Fridley, MN 55432 Glenn F. & 5andra Wong 1160 Fireside Dr. N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Anderson Trucking 203 Cooper Ave. N. St. Cloud, MN 56301 Anderson Trucking Service, Inc. 7600 Central N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 � �_. � �..::� � �.� � . b -_ �. �`x*�^� ,�?& ,: _ � �� :�FEC�AI'PUSE PERMIT . ,/O ��... �, SP f 9- �7_pY '4�� _ �=. .,<, , ,•.�� .� > .� � �n--� . � • . �x:�,-� � �}�� C�4�ISSION: P.N. W1TED«� ?�, �yrYAPPeO1fEO �iISAPV�tovEo � �a'.-.^ � ,.,�,yi 3� ��L a�� . � j; , , , NO I , � , , . x, . f _,�_ , � CIitf CO!lHCIL: �r _ P.H. '��{FQ'D ` ' � � .biATE ��• " � � � � NO �� .CITY COUNCiL: �� APPROYED_ DISAPPROVED_ DATE NO STIPULATIONS: =r . VIKING C�VItOLET. COMPA9Y .; ' jE o� � NAME:� FEE �oo. RECEIPT HO 76°� STREE7 LOCATION OF PROPER7Y LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF PROPERTY � f7/O `. �� ,�� / y i �PRESENT ZOt1ING CLASSIFICATION fXISTING USE OF PROPERTY PA�IN6 LOT ACREAGE OF PROPERTY oxa DESCRIBE BRIEFLY THE PROPOSED TYPE OF USE AND IMPROVEMENT Displav nev vehiele• ,�O s' 7I� � ! c.� B �� Has the present applicant previously sought to rezone, plat, obtain a lot split or variance or special use permit on the subject site or part of it? `__,yes no. Mhat was requested and when? ` ' . . r_ _ . . _. , : :..: . . . � The undersigned understands that: (a) A list of a71 residents and owners of property within 300 feet must be attached to this application. (b) 7his applicaticn must be � signed by all owners of the property, or an explanation given why this is not the �: case. (cj Responsibility for any defect in the proceedings resulting from the failure to tist the names and addresses of atl.residents and property owners of property in question, belongs to the undersigned. � '. ; , _ , :. .: . A sketch of proposed property and strucLure must`be drawn and attached, showing the foltowing: 1. North direction. 2. Location of proposed structure on the lot. 3.'"Dimensions of property, proposed structure, and front and side setbacks. 4. Street names. 5. location and use of adjacent existing buildings (within�300 feet). - - The undersigned hereby declares that all ihe facts and representetions stated in this application are true and correct. ��Q� �� ..; : Qi+�. e� � ` r SI6NATURE VIRING CAEVROLET COMPANY . . -- APPLI NT AOORE� 7502-t�tY 65 N.E, '�ttiDLSY.Y Mipp , TELEPHONE NO � -8100 , . - .., , _ . _ . . �� ' = � �ti � i ` � �� _� � � , . . � �" �, s,;, �� >;� � r: " _ � ' _ � �` � � � �. ' � ��,'� _ ;, . , � , . � , �r � . � # - �, �'� - � �r -j� 4 _ - � �.�� t.�l F �-«,� . `E , . . " :,r 3 .. �.�� r .� ' ' . . , . _ ' 1 � :' � .. ' . . ' - , � ": � ' .� , . : _ . _ ,. - � . . � � �_��.� - .. � . � ,,_ ' yi ; 7 �� ' �� ',� � e .� � _� f ° A • „� � + � . � r - � �� 3#'�`,c .fi�+ �� '�. . . : � � - ,:.. � g r f . - r >. �,,, J.. -S r .�.� � fi: .:�� 4 T Y 15� �- • ..�...� Fti h-] Y'�_'. J _. . . ' r4 '{ jr. ` .. ��9ei"' V ..�. 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Ueer John: You •ill need to formelly apply for e Speciel Use Permit in order to continue to use the restern portion of the Strite-Anderson Compenies parking lot for dispLay of vehicles. I have enclosed a Speciel Use Permit application form for your use. Please fill this form out end return to me es soon as possibLe. This permit ■ill heve e public heering 6efore the Plenning Commission end their recommendations •ill then go before the City Councit for their revier and ection. You mey continue to use this erea for this ectivity, unLess you hear differently. HoMever, pleese do not perk eny vehicLes on the street boutavard. If you heve any questions regerding this metter, please contact me. Thank you for your time end considaretion. Sincerely, /�...-� ��c____-. /✓titG Kent Eu�ene HiLL Economic Development Assistent KEH/bd 4/7/11/6 � / � CHEUROLET � Septeaber ?1., 1982 VIKING CHEVROLET, Inc. 750t Hcgnway 65 N E. Telep�one 786-61D0 MINNEAPOLIS. MINNESOTA 55<32 CSty of Fridley 6436 Un±versity Avenue FiKdley� Ndnnesota 55432 Attn: Ken Hill We hereby request a special sales use percit for the Strite-Anderson parkinr lot at 7585 viron Road hE� FMdley. We vill displsy vans and trucks on this lot. We are enclosinE a copy of our a�reenent witt Strite- Andersoa. VIKI CHEVROLET CON3ANY � B7 Mark J, oley Presiden MJD:3nn ,o , ,, a; . �—� �. -` - ;�;; ; >l` �,,t�� . , �, , i �-�..� ,f?�. . 7e�ephone 786-2660 (6l2) �� ti'I'l t.l'1'i�;-��`�')) (� i tti( )\ C( ).� 1 l'_� \�" • . ' 7585 VIRON ROAD N.E. MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA 55432 • September 3, 1982 R E N T A L A G R E E M E N T - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Strite-Anderson Mfg. Company (Strite) hereby rents to Viking Chevrolet, � �ao-. (Vikin9) on a month to month basis the �ollowing described portion f Strite's parking lot for the sole purpose of displaying new and used autos and trucks for sa�e. , 142' frontage commencing at fence at South edge of Strite parking lot and running in a northerly direction to a point 10' South of Strite driveway entrance. 100' deep as measured from west end of fence on South edge of Strite parking lot. Viking to be responsible for maintenance of the above area (including snow removal). Viking may utilize Strite driveway for entrance and egress to above described area. Viking will not use in any manner the balance of Strite's lot and will so inform their employees and customers. Viking hereby releases Strite of any and all liability relative to property and/or personal injury relative to any happenstance on the property. Rental agreement may be terminated by either party by rendering written notice 30 days in advance of termination date. Above described parcel comprises 14,200 square feet (192' X 100' = 14,200) and will be rented at approximately $.O5 per square foot per month. Total monthly rent of $700.00 will be payable on a monthly basis in advance. , `STRITE-ANDE/R,S N MFG. COMPANY ' � /I /.1/' � � $y /% "I � ri � � r .i! . : .�- � - M. W. Blanchard Chief Executive Officer MANUFACTURERS OF PRECiSION DIE CAS7ING Tetephone 786-2660 (612) STRITE-ANDERSON COMPANY 7585 VIRON ROAD N.E. MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA 55432 September 22, 1982 City of Fridley 6931 University Avenue N.E. Fridley, Minnesota 55432 ATTENTION: City Manager Dear Sir: in accordance with your request please be advised that Viking Chevrolet has our permission to utilize a portion of our parking lot for display of vehicles. If further information is required please contact us. Thank you. Sincerely yours, STRITE-ANDERSON MFG. COMPANY � � �� John L. Galvin Executive Vice President JLG/dll MANUFACTURERS OF PRECISION DIE CA9TINf3 �z . M" . t > . v • � Nas the present applicant previousiy sought to rezone. plat, obtain a lot split or variance or special use permit on the subject site or part of it? `�yes�,� no. What was requested and when? The undersigned understands that: ia) A list af a11 r�esidents and owners of proper- ty within 350 feet aiust be attached to tfiis applScation (rezoning), 300 feet, (plat- au ting), must be attach�d tc'#his 8ppli�ation.�'(b� This application must be signed by all owners of the property, or an exptanatton �iven why this is not the case. (c) Responsibility for aqyr defect in the pmceedings resulting from the failure to - 7ist the names and addresss of all residents and property owenrs of prop�rty in question. belongs to the undersigned. A sketch of proposed property and structure must be drawn and attached, showing the following: i. North direction. 2. Location of the proposed structure on the lot. 3. `Dimensions of property, proposed structure. and fron and side setbacks. 4. Street names. 5. Location and use of adjacent existing bu9ldings (within 350 feet). The undersi�ned hereby declares t#wt a11 the facts and respresentations stated in this application are true and correct.'` .,._..:.:�:::::.:� . pTY a� �wtot. �+ tw�w�arr � , iAK7Li1/. MN. �9 - � � �� Y��4�+�C,4 t''6 `"y. �'v"�� z � �� i0N ZOA N . SPS �I� s . ., aim� reurn a' �? ��.. � � . � t m ;3+�?@ ��,.W3 3 2 �ik $ �� ° � . . � . 1�0� "�`�'dd �„�c.c�J�✓ A�`� � DATf PI.ANNIN6 COMfI5SI0N: APPROYEO _�DISAPPROVEO DATE loJ�7�8s- N0. CITY COUNCII:: PUBLIC HfARIN6 DATf �5T READ 2ND READ CI'fY CflUNCIL: APPROYED DISAAPROYED DATE NO PAi�C FEE REQIlIRED: AhDIN1T PAID STIPIA.ATIONS: " • , ` „ . '+C3o�r! 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COtJTINUED: APPROYAL OF JULY 21 1982, HOUSING & REDEUELOPMENT AUTHORITY 5P CI L EETING MINUTES: Chairperson Commers stated that since neither Mr. Prieditis or Ms. Svendsen were present at the July 21 meeting, the approval of those minutes should again be continued until the next meeting. APPRQVAI OF AUGUST 12 1982 HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES: MOTION BY MR. PRIEDITIS� SECONDED BY NS. SVENDSEN� TO APPROVE THE AUGUST 12� 1982� NIXISING 6 REDEVELOPMEHT AUTHORITY 1NZNUTES. Mr. Len Schollen stated he would like to refer to page ]1, paragraph 3, of the August 12th minutes where Mr. Boardman stated that "Len 5chollen, who owns Lennie's, has found a building where he Moutd like to relocate." He stated that was not correct. He stated at the time, Mr. Boardu�an had asked him if he had been looking and he had said, yes, they had noticed one building that might be suitable. How- ever, later investigation faund it was not suitable. Mr. Schollen alsa referred to the last sentence in that paragraph which stated: "He (Mr. Boardmanj stated they may want to start some relocation in lieu of rent, but he wiTt have to look at each situation on an individual basis." Mr. Schollen stated that accepting relocation in lieu of rent has no bearing at all on their laundromat. . HOUSING R REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, SEPTEMBER i6 1982 PAGE 2 Mr. Boardman stated what he was saying was if it is possible, at some point in time. it may be more beneficial for the HRA to relocate in lieu of rent": Mr. Schollen stated the statement sounded like he vrould accept relocation in Tieu of space or rent, and that was not the case. The HRA agreed (Mr. Boardman) rent....." to clarify the last sentence in paragraph 3 as follows: "He stated the HRA may want to start sane relocation in lieu of receiving Mr. Schollen stated he has also been very concerned about the parking pr.oblems for his customers because of the construction trailers since the rear parking l�t has been closed, He stated his business has dropped 75� and Magic Swirl's has dropped 50%. They are very anxious to either get the parking lot clear or be relocated, With the situation the way it is now, when winter comes, they will not even have that 25% of business. Mr. Boardman stated he has been working with the contractor on the clinic to try to get them to move their vehicles in order to free up some parking straight in along the altey. One problem now is getting the houses off the lots. When that is done, it will free up some more space to park construction vehicles. He stated they are trying to work things out as quickly as possible. Mr. Commers stated the best solution is to work with their consultant and try to get these businesses relocated as soon as possible. UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE MINUTES APPROVED AS AMENDED. APPROVAL OF AUGUST 27, 1982, SPECIAL HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES: MOTION BY MS. SVENDSEN� SECONDED BY MR, PRZEDZTIS� TO APPROVE THE RUGUST 27� .I9B2� SPECIAL HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RI�E� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. � I. CENTER C1TY PROJECT A. Office Building - Mark Haggerty Mr. Boardman stated Mr. Haggerty was bringing before the HRA a plan for preliminary plan approva] of the design of the building and the location of that design. Mr. Naggerty stated they have modified the plans based on a lot of input from the InterDesign people who wanted a much larger area to the west for putting in some type of walkway. He stated they have changed the plans to accommodate the architects, and they feel this design would work just fine. HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING SEPTEMBER }6 1982 PAGE 3 Mr. Haggerty stated that according to the contract agreement, he has to have HRA approval of these plans. He stated there was a change in tfie contract documents whicfi was in tfie HRA's favor. In reviewing the documents, Mr. Herrick indicated the parking lot lease would be sub- ordinated to the first mortgage.� When Mr. Herrick focused in on that, he realized some of the consequences to the City. So, in negotiations, Mr. Haggerty stated they have agreed to come up with another $60,000 to be placed in an escrow account in the event of a default so the City will never have to run the fear of losing the monthly rental payments. plus that fund is guaranteed to have sufficient funds to exercise the full option price. That will be in addition to the other escrow amounts they are putting up for the protection of the City. Mr. Boardman stated the main thing needed from the NRA is concept approval of the design, design location. and building. Mr. Prieditis questioned whether the location of the trash area would have any visual objections from the landscape architects or the City. He felt it might be better to have the trash area located on the east side of tfie building. However, he stated if the landscape architects had no problem with the trash area in the present location, he had no objections. Mr. Haggerty stated the only real viable solution would be to switch the trash area and the electrical and rearrange the entrance, but maintain an entrance from the north. He stated he would be agreeable to that. With that consideration, he would like concept approval. MOTZON BY XR. PRZEDITIS� SECONDED BY MR. PRAZRIE� TO GIVE CONCSPT APPROVAL IN TERMS OF TXE DESIGN WITH THE REVIEW OF THE MODSFICATION OF THE LOCATION OF TNE TRASH AREA: FINAL APPROVAL TO BE COT7TTNGENT UPON THE PROVZDZNG OF THE FINAL PLANS AND THE XRA'S REVIEW A2 THAT TZME. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRZED UNRNIMOUSLY. Mr, Boardman stated that in the contract documents under the restriction on "uses". he and Mr. Herrick and Mr. Haggerty had sat down and looked at those restrictions on use they would want to try to develop for this type of office building. He thought they had come up with something that was satisfactory to Staff as well as Mr. Haggerty, and he wanted the HRA to review it. Mr. Prairie suggested that in Section 10.3, the word "drug" be changed to "pharmacy" and that "small business uses generally related to office building uses" be deleted. Mr, Haggerty stated he would have no problem with those changes. HOUSING 6 REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING SEPTEMBER 16 1982 PAGE 4 NOTION BY MR. PRAIRIE� SECONDED BY XR. PRIEDZTIS� TO MAXE TNE FOLLOWING CXANGES TO SEClZON 20.3 OF TFIE PROPOSED CONTRRCT DOCUMENTS: CNANGE THE Wt�RD ^DRUG" TO"PXARMACY" AND DELETE °SMALL BUSINESS USES GENERALLY RELATED TD OFFICE BUILDING USES.^. UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED TXE MOTZON CARRZED UNANZMOUSLY. 1, Resolution No. HRA-6-1982 Mr. Boardman stated he was intending to go to City Council on September 27 with Mr. Haggerty's plans. He stated if Mr. Haggerty is looking at starting construction in October, the HRA needs to at least start negotiation with the City Council on the purchase of property. At this time, he would like the HRA to approve Resolution No. JiRA-6-1982 requesting the sale of city property to the HRA for the development of an office building. , Mr. Boardman stated the details of the purchase have never been discussed with the Councit. The property under the building would need to be an outright purchase of the HRA from the City, but there are two possible alternatives on the purchase of the property for the parking lot. That would be that the HRA could purchase that from the City on a contract basis and pay that contract over a period of time. Then, the City could deed that property directly over to the HRA and the HRA would then lease the property to the office; or the HRA could pay directly a E2/sq. ft. purchase price for the parking lot property to the City of Fridley and take fee title. Mr, Cortmers stated he was not sure that they had resolved the question of whether or not the City might be willing to work the lease directly with the developer. Mr. 8oardman stated�•it was his understanding that the HRA would prefer to go with sane kind of contract with Yhe City to carry the purchase over a period of years with interest rather than an out- right payment. Mr. Commers stated that at some point in time, the HRA should try to estab]ish something with the City Council whereby the City Council sriows same goaQ faith in these kinds of things, too. The HRA stilt has to be concerned about their cash flow position for the next year or two. He stated that even though it only involves about $100,000, he thought the City should be able to work something out with the HRA. Mr. Boardman stated the HRA will have to pay for the property under the building because that is a deed that is turned over to them. On the parking, since they have a lease arrangement, HOUSIN6 6 REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING SEPTEMBER 16 1982 PAGE 5 and not a direct sale they could go with a contract with the City and make the terms concurrent. If the HRA would like°to, they might want to discuss this with the City Council on Sept. 27. MOTION BY 1�2. PRZEDITIS, SECONDED BY MR. PRAZRIE� TO APPROVE RESOLUTIDN N0. HRA-6-1982 WITH TXE XODIFSCATION THAT THE HRA WZLL PURCXASE THE PROPERTY UNDER TX8 OFFICE BUILDZNGjAND TO AUTHORIZE TXE EXECUTNE DIRECTOR TO FURTXER NEGOTZATE ON THE PARXZNG LOT LEASE PROPERTY. UPON A VDZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHASRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY. B. Receive Barthel Realty, Inc., Letter dated Aug. 16, 1982 Mr. Boardman stated this letter was self-evident that Barthel Realty . is unable to put the package together. At this time, it is up to the HRA to officially terminate their right of development. MOTION BY NR. PRIEDITIS, SECONDED BY MS. SVENDSEN� TO TERMINATE THE DEVEIAPMENT RZGNTS PREVIOUSLY GRANTED TO BARTHEL REALTY� SNC.� AND TO AUTHORZZE TXE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO SO NOTZFY BARTX6L TXAT THOSE RIGHTS HAVE BEEN OFFZCIALLY TERMINATED, UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED TXE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Mr. Commers stated the HRA members had received a copy of a letter dated March 15, 1982, fran Jim Vasser to Ron Schoneman regarding a deposit in the amount of $481.25 that Mr. Schoneman had made to the first development on the east side of University. Mr. 5choneman stated he would like the advice of the HRA as to how to go about getting his deposit money back. Mr. Boardman stated he could contact Mr. Vasser by telephone or letter and talk to him about this. He would recommend Mr. Schoneman go to small claims court taking an action against each one of the parties involved. Mr. Commers asked Mr. Boardman to fol�ow up on this and at least write a letter to Mr. Vasser supporting Mr. Schoneman's position. C. Receive Northern States Power Letter dated Aug. 20. 1982 (Nemo �82-64 fran Executive Director on Temporary Relocation of 64th Ave. Power Lines) Mr. Boardman stated NSP has a policy that in urban renewal areas, NSP will put in underground electrical lines up to the property at no cost, if it involves 75�. Right now the City is working on a plan with NSP where they can divide Center City and develop it in such a way that each HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, SEPTEMBER 16, 1982 PAGE 6 of the areas is actually 75%. However, the tfiing tfie City does have to have and the HRA will have to pay for is temporary lines and those kinds of things. The HRA has a�15,000 credit with NSP. and those costs will go against the $15,000 credit fran NSP as long as possible. Mr. Boardman stated the cost of the temporary service to date is $4,810, and he would like approval of that amount. Mr. Canmers stated it must be clear thaL this amourtt will just be offset against their $15,000 credit. MOTION BY MR, PRAZRIE� SECONDED BY MR. PRIEDITZS� TO APPROVE THE NSP TEMPORARY SERVICE TO BE PROVZDED DURZNG TXE POWER INT&RRUPTION AS PROPOSED � SN THE APRIL I9� 29B?� STATEMENT OF WORK REQUESTED OF $4�820, UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYS� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE MOTZON CRRRIED UNANIMOUSLY. II. MOORE LAKE PROJECT A. Memo �82-65 from Executive Director regarding a Proposal for Development of a 96-Unit Luxury Condominium Project in the Moore Lake Redevelopment District and a Letter dated Sept, 1, 1982, fran Erland Ekberg requesting right of development: Mr. Boardman stated Mr. Ekberg is proposing a condominium development in the Moore Lake area on the north side of Moore Lake. Mr. Ekberg has looked at several different location possibilities. Mr. Boardman intro- duced Mr. Ekberg and asked him to give his presentation. Mr, Ekberg described his proposal and showed the HRA the design for the luxury dondominiums, He stated there would be two, 13-story towers, and each unit would cost approx. $160-175,000. He stated this is a project he has been designing and planning for 1-1� years. He has been looking for the ideal site,and he felt the Moore Lake site has a lot of merit. He thought it was a very feasibie project, and would iike the HRA to consider it. Mr. Boardman stated Mr. Ekberg is asking the HRA to provide him with a space on which to put a model cando unit. Mr. Boardman stated the HRA does not own arty property; therefore, they do not have any contro] over having a disp7ay unit built. He stated he had suggested that Mr. Ekberg contact Max Saliterman or one of the other property owners to possibly 7ease a portion of land along Old Central on which to put a display model. Mr. Boardman stated Mr. Ekberg is also looking for some kind of commitment in the form of a right of development. The HRA has the authority to grant a right of development and give a time period by which Mr. Ekberg has to perform. But. again, they run into problems if the HRA takes an action without giving the residents a chance to respond, HOUSING 6 REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING SEPTEMBER 16 1982 PAGE 7 Mr. Commers stated the HRA is concerned about allowing the people who live in that area to have a say and to have sane input into the� project, He did not knov� how they could do much without a public hearing. c Mr. Boardman stated a public hearing was not needed unless the HRA chose to have one. Mr. Commers su9gested the HRA first meet with the City Council on September 27th and see how the City Council would like to see the HRA handle this. He stated Mr. Boardman should check into getting them on the City Council agenda for that meeting. Mr. Commers stated it was the concensus of the HRA that they were very interested in Mr. Ekberg's project. they felt the project could be very beneficial, and were interested in pursuing it. , Mr. Ekberg thanked them for their time and support of his project. III. FINANCE A. Check Register MOTION BY MR, PRAZRIE� SECONDED BY MS. SVENDSEN� TO APPROVE THE CHECK REGISTER DATED SEPT. 14� I982� IN TNE AMOUNT OF $40�576.93. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE� CXAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED TXE MOTZON CARRZED UNRNI!lOUSLY. IV. OTHER BUSINE55: A. Conference Mr. Boardman stated there is a training conference in Washington D.C. about development, development techniques, how to vro rk with developers. etc. The conference is put on by BNR, He stated the conference is Oct. 14-15. The conference cost is $355, in addition t� air fare and room rates. He stated he felt it was going to be an excellent conference and he would like authorization from the HRA to attend this conference. MOSION BY NS. SVENDSEN� SECONDED BY HR. PRAIRZE� TO GIVE MR. BOARDMAN TXE AUTXORIZATZON TO ATTEND TNE TRAINZNG CONFERENCE IN WRSHINGTON D,C. ON OCT. 14-I5, 2982. � . UPON R VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE� CHAZRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. HOUSING & REDEYELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, SEPTEMBER 16, 1982 PAGE 8 B. Meeting Date Change The HRA changed the next meeting date from 7hurs.. Oct. 14 to Tues., Oct. 19 at 7:30 p.m. ADJOURNMENT: MOTION BY MS. SVENASEN� SECONDED BY MR. PRAIRIE� TO ADJOURN TXE MEETING. UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRPERSOIJ COMMERS DECLARED THE SEPTEMBER 16� 298Z, HOUSING 6 REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETZNG ADJAURNED AT 10:10 P.M. Res ectfully submitted, _�� , y aa Recording Secretary ��y��, •• � Y ^ � �� . �� . . �-" ,`. � k � �r � .�`. � .s � & :''� . .. rc �r x ; -� � � a '� . � �� . � .. i Y-� �% v �£ . y r, g-� � � a V =� y• �� OF ,fRiE1L� �,� s s� � � � �� `� � � ^� ~ .�IRE1MtENTAL QUAII'Fy � �� ON�� r . � , Y� ��`�� MEETi�16 � � �� a .x��i { yp p a� �pv� ' c�Py4��k� ' . �LPT�WD�6G�! �spF,:. ... ` ' . . .. s ' . r,� ;p=: F. � �- . . _ �. . . ... i:"�-� . . �.. . � �. - . . � �� . .. . .. _ . . ,. . . �Gha�r�ersOn Svanda called tMe Sep'tember 21, 1�, fnvironmental Quality I6+ca�at4�si4n m�e'E4ng ta order nt 7:45 p.�. � 3�• . . . . . � � . � .. .. . v�,, , xrs Pr�sent: Rfchard Svanda, Maynard Ni+elsoua. Bruce Peterson, �� : � � Marcia Schaaf � � � � ,� � °�rs At►s�ent: Jun Ericksa�: tftti�r*s Presertt: Bill ikis�fl�, Associate Ptanner ��#�YAL Of JUAlE;l5, 19$��.F�kptI1�ENTAL'QUA�.ITY C�IISStON MINUTES: � ° . r � �,87C-�1W$. $C911Ai''� SSl.'�NDSD.�BY MR. NFSLSONR ;�"1? APPROYE.THE JUSS I5� ��.23B2R . ,';, . � � pi1�4LETY C[k�1fiSS.iOH= MIf�AIT£S ,AS �ItZ�TsN. �`iP��t VG�FC� I{OTfi� ALL VOTIlYG Ri'E� CHAIRPi�1F'STd1Wf+1A ASCLAR�'D TAS MOTION ��;i$�3R1�2'6I; tlNikit?id1L#i1S,i+1'. � � � '�. AI�KA; �l�tTY SOLIQ WItSFE i�ANAGEMENT PLAN ST_ A'fUS,. ,,; � RC.= ll��t� �t�#�d he has tallEed to 8� Hutchis�pa.aL Moka County, and the draft ;, tid:J�te��.Menag�nt R.larts haae been mailed twL. He stated he wor�ld be attending �p ��t�ing �e fal3owing day as someone frdn the Cfty is being asked ta att as a ��z `��3pn and sit fln the Task Fc�ce. He s.tated eiit�er he or Mark Burch w�11 be �.x� ��t �#aistsn.�� `�, . ` Mt�. ii�lort s#aied aS soon as he received copies of the plan, he would get them to #he C�am#:ssit»t membews. ' Mr. Svar�i� s�ated the Ylaste M�nage�nent Act has a prCYision in it whereby the �o�Lies tiv�iT,be assess�ng a levy or fee on ��:cipalaties within the county �e one o€ the new la�cif'i,13s is lucated, it tr�5p provides that they can get _� i�f�¢�� reak if t�ie.�iLy is instiLuting sr�e kit�d of ineaningfiut s�olid�waste ;��►�. Sp,.he fel# iLe�s i�pprtant that the Ce�mission roake an effort to review �is pta�n and give ca�nts tlirough the 'City. They could also use the plan .as a x�Ncin9 docament`in t6e co�ing�non�hs. 'He wuuld appreciate receiving a copy of �he p��rt.as soafl as possibte. + �k � . . .. . � . � � P �^ T s: ,. L.S, i: � �� . . .. -� . . . � � �. � � � .... . � . . . EHY�RttlV�tF.I�((71VL QU1AC�'�1^ .C!"��'3S�L�N° M�ETI�If`i��'''fQ+J�E�. 2� ;� T�Z' �� pAliE 2 , 2: DISCUSSI4iN OF t�ETiNC,�ixTH C�1`TY COIINCIL: Mr. Sv�nda stated ti�e Coa�issiqn:f�ad their m�tin9 with,the City C�uncjS on Augasi 23. Ne st8t�d he, 8�ce #'eterson� a►�-&il] pebton aLtenided that meeting. kte stated 1►e felt i� was a ver,y �nteresting �nd prat�rctive meet^ing, J4r. Peterso» statcd .fie �ht'i� was a very 2njoyab'!e a�eting., lk lot; of the d#�cus�iar� was based 6ns�� a�ag�nent anck tr,pinQ to iay out sa� af' the probl�as;the Envirprl�rtal 1�atity Cor�nissio� sees. a»d that tlre City shoyld sta'rt ionking at waste m�r�ement and get pr�ared as they are gotng �o be affiected �l�ike t�+eryo�e e1se. � � � � Mr, S�ndn stated��e tuad:broughti to the=City Cnisncit meeting c�ies of the Ftin�est�ta Was�e Ma�r�gemetlt Act relating to tt►e Anoka Countp Solid tiaste Mar+age- �i �la+� whiefi reftrY�ed tts tfie �ounty's auttiority to tevy an a�ssessment against the" city and tocal t�nits af gouer►m�nt v�lthi�t the eity. He stated he did this tp show the Counc#Y•;that �fiere was a st�te sfi�atute in place tf�ai pcovjded for thesa th�r�gs. ' l�r. Svdnda stated ;�ey fot�►d out #►mm tMe me��ing with the Couritil tfia# the , Gaun�i7 M�s no pro�� vttfr the �iirection tfr� C�ttm#ssian is going. The Gouncil ;; a}sa t�s no probt�t with. the Goe�ission meeting''and vror�Tting with the hau7ers as 1u�g as �h� City��#§�etf.adb�s not.get�involve�. - � � i+�•. 5uanda stated t�e Csxim�ssiurr`members shQUlc3. start giving sojne �houqht to rthat the,y�woufd Tt�e Lo'present �o the haulers. They shauld sp�nd so� time �tis,�ass�Fr� this at �he nert� �eting. MCr, Petersoo sugges�ed th+�y in�i�e tks. Metc�l� and the qiembers fra� SQRT, as fi�ey ean prot+icle s�e v�fi�►ble ittformation. F i'fie Canrnigsfion member§ ba� r�e't�ed a copy of an artiel� fran "920-3tI00, a Bi- l�ksnifiiy R�rt to t� R��erii�.itf 5t. L4uis;f'��°k� N4�irtnesota", whicM talked about a r�cycting pftot�p�3g�"�hat the City �# 5tf Louis Rark is.la�ncking thi� f�tl�; °A sn�stan�ial �t� of funding f��r:tfifs prrogrdra wi�iT come'from C�r4ity dew8ia�t bloc�t 'gt�lrit funds, Mr. PeLerson asked Mr,. D�bton to cantact th� City �s# Sf. L�uis P�rR �t�f`tt�y Lo get �re °fnformation on thys• �e¢yling t�"�►99r`am. Mr. Svanda� 5tated they �F�duid maybe talk:ab�ut the area of cormiuni.�y develo�ment bloek �rant furuis.aAd asked Mr.'Qeblon to pr�vide them'with inFor�tion on c�amunii3� deveiopr�# black grant funrliqg. ' 3. HRZARR(#JS MASTE PROGF„��If� ��£ILd7Ys` l�r. 11eb]on stated tt�e M�nnesata �laste Manag�t►t Bpar,d is require� by statute t.� s3te.areas far fiun�ardcUs �sfie processing fecilit4es. He stat�d they hed �r� thrpi�g#� the prpcess �t�,4f;setectfng site areas far hazardo�s wa�ste process- fpq fac�"tities and fiatl 16c�tt.eid'°s;x sites outside tti� metrapoli�an area. But, t�ey decided they ►�e�ded'�te t►eh criteria and needed Ln tpcate seime within the �trbp3i#4n area. ; _ ,�,� r_ _ � . �.�� ; __ �.� _ � � ,�,_r�_ _ _ . �r._ _.� � _, � { ; �; _, 4. --�-°--. sf.�ted that tu� Sept. 23, the ��h ti�, the Waste Manageme � suggesteG si-tes Are in Frid �after the Sept. Z;i meeting. � :x, : �; 27 �; 1982 PAt;E 3 ;; `: aleeting and a�press conf�w � �� r announce the eYigible sed he would have more Mr. f�►b,}�2astated the �inai impact statement was t� available. Ne stated he ` .�d:;�Cg�rt atong a copY for the Cannission m�ers to review. �;. fl�f�R BUSIMESS• �; �E Next Meetinq Date ��: �"� Mr.. 5vnnda stated he va�uld be unab]e tn attenct the next meeting on Tues., � OCt. 19, and reques€�d the meeting.date be changed tb ii�d., Oct, T3. AQdt�RlN!tENT s �,x4�IT HY JIfR: NIELSQN� �SC1�ND&D 8Y KS. SCIdAAF� Tfi AikTDUItN T8E MEE3'TNG. UPON A [+C11'CE YGFB� ALL VO�'IHG AYS� pfAIRPBRSQN SPJU1fDA D$C�ARED TBE SEPTBMBER 21�, 2982� i�V:F�I�18NPx1L OUALITY G�VISSTON MBETING AikTOt1RNL�A AT 8:30 P.M. Resp�ctfuiiy swb itted, ��-- �� Rees�rding S�sreLary c,`. � ;° ?, , . ,S ,. . .. . � . . . - � . � . Ei';` .. . . . . . . . . . . ��" '` `-f`...� . ' . . � . � . . ar'� . .. - . � . �� rg 5 �.^F.� . . � . { e. .xr�,- .�_ ir �;�.' _ _i; � CITY OF FRIDLEY PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING SEPTEMBER 27, 1982 CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Kondrick called the September 27, 1982, Parks & Recreation Commission meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. ROLL CALL: Members Prese�t Me�bers Absent: Others Present: Dave Kondrick, Mary Schreiner, Dick Young, Dan Allen Jan Seeger Charles Boudreau, Parks & Recreation Director See attached list APPROVAL OF AU6UST 3 1982 PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTIDN BY MS. SCNREINER� SECONDED BY MR. YOUNG, TO APPROVE THE AUGUST 3� 1982� PARKS � RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRZTTEN. UPON R VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE MOTZON CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. APPROVAL OF AGENDA: MOTSON BY NR. YOUNG� SECONDED BY MR. ALLEN� TO APPROVE TXE AGENDA WITH THE FOLIAW- ING RDDITIONS AND CHRNGfiS: REQUEST & PETITION FOR ZCE RINK AT JAY PARH - JAY PARK RESIDENTS (MOVED TO FIRST ITEM ON 2HE AGENDA) Petition No. 9-82 WOODCREST BAPTIST CHURCH SCHOOL DONATION - ITEM D UNDER "DIRECTOR'S REPORT" COMMENT ON NRTURE CENTER FALL NEWSLETTER - MRRY SCHREINER - ITEM A UNDER "OTHER Bi7SZNESS" UPON A VOICE VOTE, RLL VOTING AYE, CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY, KONDRICK DECLARED TXE MOTION 1. REQUEST AND PETITION fOR AN ICE RINK AT JAY PARK - JAY PARK RESIDENTS: Mr. Gary Marlow, 6525 Main St. N.E., stated they are at tf�e meeting to request an ice rink in Jay Park. Rigfit now tfiey have a park that is inadequate for any- thing as far as winter activities. Right now the average aged child is 102 years old, and Jay Park is more of a toddlers' park. There is a climber and a swing set and that is all. He stated they have a petition to present to the Parks & Recreation Commission requesting one ice skating rink at the Fridley Jay Park location. PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING SEPTEMBER 27 1982 PAGE 2 MOTION BY MR. YOUNG, SECONDED BY MS. SCHREINER, TO RECENE THE PETITION (NO. 9-82) RSpUESTZNG ONE ICE SKATING RINK AT JAY PARK. Uj'ON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE HOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. - A resident stated that in order for their children to do any ice skating, they have to either cross the railroad tracks, Mississippi St., University Ave., or Rice Creek. As long as they have a park and there are as many children as there are in the neighborhood, tfiey would tfiink they could have an ice rink at Jay Park, A resident stated the area across the tracks from them is similar in nature to their area, except there are about 20 more houses. Their park has a toddler area, tennis courts, two basketball set-ups, and an ice rink. A resident stated that someone had mentioned their children could ride their bikes to the new community park, but that is also dangerous, because there are woods nearby and the railroad tracks to cross. A resident asked how the City determines which parks are to have ice and whlch are not. Dr. Boudreau stated they are trying to consolidate and centralize the ice areas based on a report done by the Planning Department. The report was based on the population statistics of the children, neighborhoods, etc. He stated the Jay Park area is not unusual. Almost every neighborhood in Fridley is isolated. Old Central, Mississippi St., I-694, University Ave., and Osborne Road all cut through the City. Most neigh6orhoods do not fiave an ice rink, Tfiere are only ten ice rinks in the City of Fridley--an ice rihk fieing an enclosed rink utilized for hockey, and there are 20 general skating areas in Fridley. Some of tfwse areas are rather small. They are a maintenance headache and are very costly for the City to operate. Dr. Boudreau stated that with the economic pinch, the City is trying to reduce the expenses of the City budget to hold down the tax bill. His job is to recommend to the Parks & Recreation Cormission the ice area locations for 1982-83 (to be addressed later in the meeting). He stated that six years ago, there were 14 ice rinks for hockey in the City; they are now down to 10, because they are much more expensive to maintain than a general skating area, Dr. Boudreau stated Curt Dahlberg, the Park Foreman, had looked at Jay Park. In a memo to Dr. Boudreau, Mr. Daf�l6erg f�ad stated it would cost about $2,200 to maintain an ice area throughout the year. It is going to take about $700 to pre- pare the ground, totalling about $3,000, an outlay of funds that has not been budgeted fior an ice pad which would measure approx. 75' x 10�'. He stated they would have to utilize the west side of the park area where the ball diamond is now located. If they were to regrade this area to accomnodate a general skating site, there would be extensive turf damage (counter-productive to the existing turf management program), plus a good probability that the ball field would remain wetter for longer periods of time, thus reducing normal su�ner usage activities, PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING, SEPTEMBER 27, 1982 PAGE 3 Mr. Dahl6erg had stated the level direct rod readings show that ingress/egress to Lhe s1�e would 6e qery diffitult. Tbe drop in grade would be apprm�. 22 ft. '�1� 3Q �t, di$tance whicE� would 6e very difficult for equipment entry/exit during �l�te�" conditions. He had also stated that the present winter scf�edule is taxed to its limits and he felt t6at witfiout additional full time personnel or authoriza- tion of overtime, expansion of their winter scF�edule at this time would result in reduction of quality service to all ice areas and rink areas within the City. Dr. Boudreau stated Mr. Dahlberg's crew consists of six full-time people and about seven part-time maintenance people, operating six days a week trying to maintain the ice in Fridley, and that is quite a load for that amount of people dnd equipment 6reakdowns they have. Dr. Boudreau stated Mr. Dahlberg had suggested that the residents of Jay Park be notified of the City's plans to create a large general ice area at the new Community ParK and to inform them of the City's instruction sheet for backyard rinks. A resident stated they were told that about 12 years ago, the Jay Park residents tried to get an ice skating area and were turned down. 5he would like to know evhy in this area where there are a lot of children and it is potentially dangerous for the children to travel to another rink, the City cannot move a rink from one location to another. Dr. Boudreau stated economics, manpower, and accessibility were three reasons. Mr. Kondrick stated they do appreciate the citizens of Fridley bringing these kinds of things to their attention. Mr. DaF�lberg had spent some time looking at the area and figuring out how mucfi it would cost to build the rink and how much it would cost to maintain it. On that basis alone, the Gity does not have the dollars to do it. What the future will bring, he stated he did not know. He stated that at this time, he felt the Commission would have to take the matter under advisement to see which direction they should go. Ms. Schreiner stated that one comnent she felt was very important was the comnent that the children on the average in this little neighborhood have outgrown the use of Jay Park. She stated she has lived in fridley for 20 years, and she never had a"tot lot", and she always had to drive her children to another area when they wanted to go skating. She understood what the residents were going through, but she thought there must be some way of determining which areas possibly no longer need an ice area. 3he stated there must be some type of reports on how heavily used the rinks are. Dr. Boudreau stated that unless there is a warming house located at an ice rink with.an attendant to monitor the usage, it is impossible to know how heavily a rink is used. Last year, to the best of their ability, about 20,000 participants used ice in the City of Fridiey, Dr. Boudreau stated another concern the residents should be aware of is the problem of the little children trying to skate when the 10-11-12 year olds have their hockey sticks and pucks and are playing hockey. PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEE7ING, SEPTEMBER 27, 1982 PAGE 4 Mr. Young stated his biggest concern was the fact that these chi}dren are having to cross major streets to go to other areas. A resident stated the major reason for the petition for a skating rink was because it is not safe to cross major streets to any of tfie other available rinks. Dr. Boudreau stated the City is planning a bikeway/walkway system that will go down fran their neigh6orhood and across the metropolitan sewer dike on Rice Creek and connect in with the County's bikeway/walkway system. He stated this neighborhood's problem is not new to the City. They have the bikeway/walkway on the east side of University, and they have looked at the problem of getting the people on the west side of University to go north and south. Ms. Schreiner stated it might be beneficial to get more up-to-date information on numbers of children in particular areas, Mr. Kondrick stated they will definitely review this, wil] get some new up-to-date fiformation in terms of numbers, dollars, etc., and will notify the residents of their recommendation. MOTSON BY MR. YO[ING� SECONDED BY MS. SCHREINER� TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION ON THE REQUEST FOR AN ICE SKATSNG AREA AT JAY PARK UNTIL TXE NEXT MEETZNG AND TO REQUEST STAFF TO PROVIDE THE COMMISSION WITH SOME INPUT WITN REGARD TO THE AVERAGE AGE OF THE CNILDREN IN THE NEIGHBORf100DS IN ORDER TO EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY PARKS ARE BEING USED TO T8E BEST USE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONbRICK DECLARED THE MOTION CRRRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Dr. Boudreau stated he would be happy to work with any or all of the Jay Park residents in trying to solve this problem. Mr. Kondrick thanked everyone for coming to the meeting. 2, REQUEST - NORTH SUBURBAN CIVIC CENTER AND ICE ARENA: Representatives from North Suburban Civic Center and Ice Arena were at the meeting to request financial support from the City of Fridley because many of the users of the ice arena live in a portion of Frid7ey. Mr. Young asked how much time in the ice arena is already scheduled for this coming year. Mr. Duane Hass stated a majority of the prime ice time has been requested for use by tde Spring lake Park Hockey Assoc. and the Blaine Hockey Assoc. Prime time is 5:00 p.m. - 10:00 p.m. Saturday and Sunday are a]so prime time. Mr. Young stated that, assuming the City af Frid7ey was agreeable to this request, and because it is tax money, it is possible the Fridley Hockey Assoc. would be literested in using tfie ice arena. What guarantee was there that the Fridley Hockey Assoc. would be aliocated so many hours of prime time? PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING, SEPTEMBER 27 1982 PAGE 5 Mr. Hass stated fie was speaking for the area of fridley that is District 16. T�at area of Fridley, Spring Lake Park, and southern Blaine have an agreement for 30% of that prime ice time. As far as the rest of Fridley, it was not involved in this particular project. Dr. Boudreau stated that in the Fridley Hockey Assoc program, there are approx. 200+ children, not counting broomball. So, they are looking at about 63 children out of 350 who would participate in the ice arena. He stated the North Suburban Civic Center is looking ta the City of Fridley for assistance with a project that is basically serving Blaine, Spring Lake Park, and a small part of Fridley. He thought it put Fridley in a precarious situation to start breaking up school districts when they should be looking at the City as a whole. MOTZON BY MR. ALLEN� SECONDED BY MS. SCHREINER, TO RECEIVE THE LETTER AND INFORMATION DATED SEPT. 15� 1982, ON THE NORTH SUBURBAN CNIC CENTER AND ICE ARENA. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHRIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNRNIMOUSLY. Mr. Hass stated they will be making a presentation to the Fridtey City Council. Mr. Kondrick thanked Mr. Hass, Mr. Hurt, and Mr. Nelson for coming to the meeting and wished them luck in their project. 3. NORTHEAST CHAMBER ENSEMBLE AND FRIDLEY CITY BAND: Ms. Agnes Wolf stated representatives from the Northeast Chamber were at the meeting to request continued financial support from the City of Fridley. This year they are requesting $1,700--an increase of $200 oaer last year. The primary reason for the increase is for their library. Mr. Young asked if the members of the Northeast Chamber contribute monies. Ms. Wolf stated the members pay dues. This year they put in $94.50 overall. They use the City money only to pay the director and buy music. All other expenses, memorials, coffee money, etc., come from the members. Mr. Young stated he was quite concerned with the City funding both the Northeast Chamber and the City Band for one reason, and that was because he is the President of SACA (Southern Anoka Comnunity Assistance). He wasn't concerned just because the City of �ridley decided to cut funding for SACA ($2,OOOJ, but they cut fund- ing for what he would consider "people" organizations--Central Center for Family Resources, The Alexandra House, North Suburban Family Services Center, and the Fridl�ey Creative Play Center. Three of these organizations were highty recarnnended by the Human Resources Cormnissien to receive funding. He stated these are organi- zations that are helping the poor of this comnunity. In many cases, the people cannot afford to go elsewhere for professional counseling, They are people who need food or clothing on a short-term basis, people who need assistance for a utility bill, or a prescription for a sick child, He stated he was quite upset PARKS & RECREATION COhF1ISSI0N MEETING, SEPTEMBER 27 7982 PAGE 6 to learn that the City has been funding what he would ca77 "cu}tural pursuits" 7'lice the Northeast Chamber and the City Band. Another thing that upset him when he saw the membership lists was that one-third - 40% of the memberships did not even come from the City of gridley. So, tfie City is funding people who come from Cambridge, New Brighton, Plymouth, and Northeast Minneapolis in order for them to have "cultural" enjoyment, but yet, to the best of the Commission's knowledge, t�ose communities are not putting any money into this organization. Mr. Young stated he participates in a civic organization called the Jaycees. He stated that, figuring there are about 40 people in the Northeast Chamber and they on7y collected g94,50, that is only about $2.50/person to continue in a leisure time social activity they enjoy. He stated his dues to the Jaycees is $24/year. It costs more than $2.50/person per year just to participate in soft- ball or any other cortmunity function. Ms. Betty Scott stated the organizations Mr. Young had mentioned have many other sources of funding they can go to, and Fridley knows that. The people who go to SACA also have many other outlets they can go to. There is no one in Anoka County who has to go without food or medical treatment. She stated she did not think it was fair to compare the Northeast Chamber with the organizations that assist people because it is not the same thing. It was stated that the $1,500 requested last year for the Northeast Chamber and the $1,700 they hope to receive this year is not for their 30-40 members only. It is an organization that lends a certain "plus" to Fridley. They are not asking for the money to just have fun with. It is a part of Fridley to have something cultural for people to belong to and for people to come to listen to. They have concerts in churches, they play for the seniar citizens, and they play in many other places in Fridley. Part of the membership who come from other comnunities are people who play different instruments which are needed in order to make the orchestral. Also,several members are former Fridley residents who have moved away. Ms. Schreiner stated the orchestra is a year-around program. A person who takes a course through Community Education must pay a reaistration fee for a quarter, 8 weeks, whatever, or if a person joins a softball program for the su�ner, there is a registration fee plus balls and bats. Her point was that if they were to look at participation in the orchestra as a quarterly participation, it would not be very expensive. Mr. Kondrick stated the Cortmission is having difficulty in trying to figure out why the orchestra program is any different from other city programs. There are many participants in the other programs--whether children or adults--and every. one has to contribute some dollars to participate, yet this seems to be a reversal of that. He stated it has come to light now more so than in the past because of the current money crunch. He stated the Members of the Northeast Chamber and the City Band must understnad where the Commission is coming from and why they are asking these questions and why there is some resistance on their part for this funding, PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETIN6, SEPTEMBER 27 1982 PAGE 8 4. DIRECTOR'S REPORT: a. Springbrook Nature Ce�ter User Fee b. c. Dr, Boudreau stated he had written a memo to Mr. Qureshi on Sept. 17, 1982, advising Mr. Qureshi that the fee schedule suggestion had been turned over to Siah St. Clair for his review and suggestions by the Springbrook Nature Center Foundation. After this meeting takes place, he will review their suggestions with the Parks & Recreation Commission and forward the recommendations through the process to the City Council. Dr. Boudreau stated this was to bring the Comnission up to date on the status of the Springbrook Nature Center user fee. Independent School District �16 Dr. Boudreau stated the Commission members had received a copy of a letter from Dr. Chris Huber, Supt. of Schools, and Gladys Murray, Director of Special Services, from Dist. 16 thanking Jack Kirk and the Fridley City Recreation Department for the fine job of participating this summer with Blaine and Spring Lake Park in running cooperative programning for children in the area. Dr. Boudreau stated Fridley wil] probably do this again next year if the other communities are still interested. MOTION BY MR. YOUNG, SECONDED 8Y MR. ALLEN� TO RECEIVE THE LETTER DATED SEPT. 7� 1982� FROM SCHOOL DIST. IG. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED TXE MOTION CARRZED UNRNIMOUSLY. - Comnunity Park Lighting Dr. Boudreau stated the City has an agreement with Donahue & Assoc. to help advise and do the spec work on the types of lighting needed for the softball diamonds at the new camwnity park. The City hopes to have the lighting in by next April, so they will be going out for bids before the first of the year. d. Woodcrest Baptist Church School Donation Dr. Boudreau stated he had a copy af a letter addressed to the Mayor of Fridley fran Robert Chrisman, Administrator of Woodcrest Baptist Church School, which had included a contribution of $200 to the Parks Recreation Department to use as it saw fit. Mr. Chrisman stated they appreciated the good care the City has taken of the area of Locke Park they use. They also wanted to thank the City for its fine recreation program. PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETIN6, SEPTEMBER 27 1982 PAGE 7 Dr. Boudreau, stated he should also point out that the Northeast Chamber and the City Band are two of the groups who have paid 7eadership while a71 the rest of the youth sports, etc., all have volunteer leadership. Ms. Nicky Larson stated that was a different thing, because those people are not professionals. They are people who have been in it for a long time and have grown through it. They are not people who have graduated with a degree in music and are specialists in the field. But, the City does pay for the umpires and referees. If they didn't have the umpires ar referees, they could not have the programs, and they cannot have an orchestra or a band without a director. Mr. Young asked if the City paid the $700 for the music, would the members pay the director's salary--about $33.50 per person? Ms. Wolf stated she knew the members present at this meeting would be willing to pay $33 per person, but she could not speak for the rest of the members. Mr. Allen stated it sounded like this orchestra was one of the few like it in the area and it sounded like they do a lot of good, He stated he really felt some of this money could be donated or raised, with a little effort on the part of the Northeast Chamber or City Band members, through some group, business, or private individuals who strongly support their activities. He stated a71 the Comnission is asking is that they pitch in and do what other people are doing, and that is trying to raise money for the groups they feel are important. Mr. Kondrick stated he would agree with Mr. Young--that the City pay for the music but not the directors' salaries. Mr. Ross Larson stated that what is being requested by these two groups is minuscule compared to the bucks that are put out every year for sports in the City of Fridley, and that really bothered him. MOTION BY MS. SCXREZNER� SECONDED BY MR. ALLEN� TO RECOMMEND THAT FOR BOTH THE NORTNEAST CXAMBER AND TXE CITY BAND, THE CITY CONTINUE TO UNDERWRITE TXE TOTAL C0.ST OF 2HE MUSIC AND SUPPLIES AND TO UNDERWRSTE ONE-HALF OF THE DIRECTORS' SALARIES FOR THE YEAR 1983-84; WITH NO UNDERWRITING OF TXE DIRECTORS' SALARIES IN THE YEAR I984-85. � MOTION TO AME'ND BY MR. YOUNC, SECONDED BY MS. SCHREINER, TO RECOMMEND THAT FOR HOTH THE NORTHEAST CHAFfBER AND THE FRIDLEY CITY BRND, THE CITY CONTINUE TO UNDfiRWRZTE THE COST OF 2HE MUSIC AND SUPPLIES (S600 - N.E. CHRMBER; $500 - CITY BAND)� BUT ONLY TO UNDERWRITE ONE-FWRTH (1/C) OF TXE DIREC�RS' SALARIES-- TXREE MONTHS INTO THE CQNING YEAR WXICH WOULD ALLOW THEM TIME TO PREPARE FOR TAE PXASE-OUT OF TBE DIRECTORS' SAdARSES. UPON A VOICfi VOTE, YOUHG, SCXREINER, AND ALLEN VOTING AYE, KONDRICK ABSTAINZNG, CNAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED. PARKS & RECREATION COr9�9I55I0N MEETING SEPTEMBER 27 1982 PAGE 9 The Comnission members expressed appreciation for this thoughtful contribution from Woodcrest Baptist Church. MOTION BY MR. YOUNG� SECONDED 8Y MR. ALLEN� TO RECEIVE THE LETTER FR01N MR. CHRSSMAN. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CXRIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE MOTION CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY. � 5. NEW BUSINESS: a. Request - Totino Grace High School Dr. Boudreau stated the Commission members had a copy of a letter fran Mark Loahr, the Head Hockey Coach for Totino Grace, requesting permission to use the hockey rink and warming house facility at Locke Park from 4:00-5:00 p.m, weekdays during the hockey season. Dr. Boudreau stated this rink is not set up for hockey; it is used strictly for broomball. Mr. Young stated he had heard that Spring Lake Park School Dist. 16 had given the hockey rink and warming house they had to the hockey program that was represented earlier in the meeting for the reason that Dist. 16 felt they could not continue to maintain it. They had estimated the cost to maintain the rink last year was $4-b,000. Considering that, the City of Fridley would be looking at possibly a $4-6,000 contribution to a non-public institution. Dr. Boudreau stated that in keeping with what the Commission and the Parks & Recreation Department have always felt and done in the past is that these rinks are to service the programs that are provided for the children of fridley. After that, even though there is not much open ice time, they like to keep the rinks open on a first-come, first-serve basis. Mr. Allen stated he would agree with that. MOTION BY FII2, YOUNG� SECONDED BY MR. ALLEN� TO DENY THE REQUEST BY TIDTINO GRACE HIGH SCHDOL FOR 2HE USE OF THE HOCKEY RINK AND WARMZNG . XOUSE FACILITY AT I,(1CKE PARK. � • UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHRSRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING, SEPTEMBER 27 1982 PAGE 10 b. Proposed Ice Areas 1982-83 Dr. Boudreau stated he would recomnend that all 10 hockey rinks remain the same as last year: 2 - Cortmons 1 - Flanery 1 - Hayes 2 - Locke (broomball) 1 - Madsen 1- Rice Creek Elementary - no warming house 1- Ruth Ci rcl e 1- Stevenson Elementary - no warming house Dr. Boudreau stated he is recommending that the general skating area at Burlington Northern be eliminated. He is recommending they not have a skating area at Farr Lake and to do Harris Lake only if the demand is there. They will try to have a general skating area in the new community park which will eliminate them fran having a general skating area at Locke Park, and they may not have a general skating area at Edgewater Gardens. MOTION BY MR. YDUNG, SECONDED BY MS. SCHREINER� TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE PARKS & RECREATION DIRECTOR FOR THE HOCKEY AND CENERRL SKATING AREAS FOR THE 2982-83 SEASON� AND TO CONTINUE THE DECISION ON THE JAY PARK ICE RINK UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRPERSON KONDRICK DfiCLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 5. OTHER BUSINE55: a. Comnent on Nature Center Fall Newsletter - Mary Schreiner Ms. Schreiner stated she just wanted to compliment Staff on the excellent nature center fall newsletter. . ADJOURNMENT: MOTION BY MR. ALLEN, SECONDED BY Pff2.�Y0UNG, TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRPERSON DECLARED THE SEPTEMBER 27� 1982� PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MSETZNC AATOURNED AT 10:30 P.M. 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G r� (� S�? t�.r��,- ° N'� �,. ��w �� .. �� ::-_ / S�s %�� aso - � �" GP-r,�-� lr�`. aso - � ��-,��- �-.� � �,¢ �..._ . � CITY OF FRIDLEY ENERGY COhN1ISSI0N MEETING SEPTEMBER 28, 1982 CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Saba called the September 28, 1982, Energy Cortmission meeting to order at 8:10 p.m. ROII CALL: Members Present: Dean Saba, Bill Wharton, Todd Tessmer Members Absent: �erry Cichosz, Bill Jordan Others Present: Bill Deblon, Associate Planner APPROVAL OF JUNE 22, 1982, ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY MR. W(L�lRTONr SSCONDED BY MR. TESSMBR� TO APPROVE TNE JUNE 22� I982� BNERGY COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN. . UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPfiRSON SRBA DECLARED THE ifOTION CARRIED UNRNIMIXJSLY. 1. CONTINUED: ENERGY ACCOUNTING Mr. Deblon stated the Cortmission members had received a notice of a workshop on "Accounting & Energy Cost Control" that he will be attending on November 9 at Lakewood Carenunity College. He stated he will be learning how to operate the Apple II computer and how to set up an energy accounting program. Mr. Deblon stated the Commission members also had a copy of a memo addressed to himself from Sid Inman asking Mr, Deblon to obtain a copy of the program that was written for the Apple Computer for energy and he (Mr. Inman) will pursue the possibility of converting it over to the TI. This would save the cost of buying an additional printer plus would leave the Apple available for the character generation work for which it was purchased. Mr. Saba stated it appeared they were getting closer to having an energy account- ing system. 2. CONTINUED: STOP SIGN POLICY Mr. Saba stated the City Council has a petition for stop signs they have referred to the Energy Commission. He stated he and Todd Tessmer discussed a stop sign policy with the City Council and the City Manager at a conference meeting, and they seemed very receptive; however, they said when they receive a petition for a stop sign, it is a hard thing to fight. � ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING, SEPTEMBER 28, 1982 PAGE 2 Mr. Saba stated the intersection in question is 45th and 2� St. The residents are requesting either four stop signs or a two-way stop at that intersection. Since, this is on the border of Fridley and Columbia Heights, one stop sign would be in Columbia Heights, although they cannot force the City of Columbia Heights to put up that stop sign. He asked Mr. Deblon if he had any history on that area. Mr. Deblon stated he had a 10-month canputer print-out of all the accidents in Fridley. Out of 672 accidents, the accident that prompted this petition did not even appear in the accident report (the accident was probably reported to the Columbia Heights Police), .Mr. Deblon s�kated the Fridley Police Dept. does not have this intersection marked as a problem area. Mr. Wharton stated it looked as though this was already a controlled intersec- tion, and apparently there was a violation of the traffic control situation already there, MOTION BY 1�42. WHARTON� SECONDBD BY MR. TESSMER� TO RECQMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL� THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION� THAT��FROM AN ENERGY STANDPOINT� TXE REQUEST FOR STOP SSGNS AT 45TX AVE. 6 2 I/2 ST. NOT BE APPROVSD. Mr. Saba stated he thought it might be prudent for the Commission members to take a look at this site before taking any action on the above motion. MOTION BY MR, WHARTON� SfiCONDED BY M12. TESSMER, TO TABLE ANY ACTION ON THE ABOVE MOTION UNTIL THE COMMISSION MEMBERS XAD LOOKED AT TXE SNTERSECTION OF 45TX & 2 I/2, UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRPERSON SABA DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. The Corranission members agreed to take 20 minutes af ineeting time to visit the site of the stop sign petition at 45th & 2�. The Commission members wanted to record the following points regarding the stop sign request: 1. 45th Ave. west of University is only 3; blocks long with one end intersecting Main Street and extremely limited access on the other end, 2. On 2� St, on the Columbia Heights side. a stop sign is already in place. On 2� St. on the Fridley side, a yield sign is already in place. Yield signs are predominant in the Fridley portion of that neighborhood and should be sufficient for traffic control. ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING, SEPTE�BER 28, 1982 PA6E 3 3. Per a low traffic volume study (less than 500 average daily trips fADT1)published in a Transportation Research Record 808 by J. W. Mounce (Mr. Mounce is with the Texas Transportation Institute, Texas A& M University, College Station), additional attempts at traffic control through the use of yield and stop signs resulted in more accidents than with no signs at all. UPON R VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTINC AYE� CXAIRPERSON SABA DECLARED TNE M0220N CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 3. DISCUSSION OF AN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM ON CABLE TV: The Camiission members requested Mr. Deblon to again obtain the video tape of "The Forgotten fundamentals of the Energy Crisis" and have it shown on cable TV. Each member of the Comnission will research other material for use on cable TV, 4. DISCUSSION OF MEETIN6 WITH CITY COUNCIL: Mr. Saba stated he and Todd Tessmer met with the City Council at a conference meeting on August 23. He stated it was a very interesting meeting, and the City Council was very supportive of the Energy Commission's work plan, ADJOURNMENT: MOTION BY MR. TESSMER� SECONDED BY MR. WHARTON� TO AA70URN THE MEETSNG. UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON SABR DECLARED THE SEPTEMBER 28� 2982� ENERGY COMMISSION MSETING ADJOURNED AT 9:00 P.M. Res ectfully subm'tted, 1CQ. Ci Y q $d d Recording Secretary OF CITY OF COLUMBIA HEIGHTS _ _ 590 IOth Ava id. E . �h�s..�A�.�„�+l�mm- -°— (612) 788-922i - October 5, 198Z City of Fridley 6431 University Avenue N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Attention: Mr. John Flora Director of Public Works/City Engineer Dear Mr. Flora: The City of Columbia Heights' Traffic Commission at their regular meeting on October 4, 1982, reviewed the petition you received from area residents and made the following recomnendation with regard to the installation of additional stop signs at the intersection of 2} Street N.E. and 45th Avenue N.E. The commission members reviewed the conditions which now exist and received a report from the Police Chiet stating that no accidents had been reported at this intersection in Columbia Heights for the last five years. The cortmission recommends that the City of Fridley remove the existing "yield" sign on south bound 2} Street N.E. and replace it with a"stop" sign. Columbia Heights currently has a stop sign on north bound 2� Street N.E. In addition, they recommended that the City of Fridley address the apparent visibility problem in the northeast corner of this intersection for south bound traffic on 2} Street N.E. looking left. It was noticed by commission members that tree branches may be blocking visibility of oncoming cars from west bound 45th Avenue N.E. � We have attached a copy of the Traffic Commission minutes with regard to this item and a copy of the City of Columbia Heights visibility ordinance for your reference. We might add that it was the Traffic Commission's opinion that this inter- section does not warrant a four-way stop at this time. Sincerely, �y��Fredrick V. Salsb ry Director of Public 6lorks/Lity Engineer FVS/ab attac Mients 82-692 Bruce G. Nawrocki, Mayor Goyle R. Norbery, Cou�cilmember Kenneth E. Hentqes, Councilmember Rita M. Petkoff, Councilmember Arden Hovland, Councilmember EQUAI OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER H I H U T E 5 COLUMBIA HEIGHTS TRAFFIC COMMISSION October 5, 196z The regular meeting of the Colunbia Heights Traffic Lortmission was called to order on Monday, October 4, 1982 at 7:05 p.m. in the Louncil Chambers at City Hall. Roll Lall: Hent9es, Daviit, Sreen - present. Johnson, Lucke - absent. Also present were Thomas Madigan, Assistant City Engineer, Stuart Anderson, Polite Chief, and Steve Leese, Sign Man. Motion by Hentges, seconded by 8reen to approve the minutes of the September 7, 19b2 meeting as presented in writing. Roll Call: All Ayes OLD BUSINESS: st !o Install Deadend Siqn on the Relocated 41st Avenue H.f. Chairman Davitt read the agenda item which indicated that this item r�as tabled from t�e August 2. 1952 meeting due to the progress of construction fn this area. The situation has not appreciably changed, so the Assistant City Engineer recam�ended that this item be held until ihe December 6, 1982 regular Traffic Commission meeting. Motion by 8reen, seconded by Hentges to table this item until the Decem- ber 6, 19u2 meeting. Roll Lall: All Ayes NEW BUSINE55: Establish Hearing Date for an Additionat o St�h Avenue N.E. anE 2= Street N.E. the Intersecti The Assistant City Engineer indicated that the City of Fridley had re- ceived a petition for the installation of stop signs (four stop signs or a two-way stop) at the intersection of 45th Avenue N.E. and 2� Street N.E. He noted there were a number of Lolumbia Heights residents alono •rith Fridley residents who Aad signed the Detition. He indicated this petition is in the process of going throu9h various �pmmissions�n fridley and they sre ssking that we bring ifiis pet+cion to our ca+mission for Minutes of Traffic Comnission 14eeting cf Dctober 4, 1982 page two review. Presently, Fridley has a"yield" sign and we have a"stop" sign on 2� Street N.E. Frank Breen sugoested we leave our sign as it is, go for the two-way stop and let iridley put up one stop sign on tfieir side of 2} Street t�.E. Councilman Hentges noted there is a visibility prob�err� there also because of some lo�• hanoinc tree branches or bushes in the northeast corner of this intersection. The Assistant City Engineer indicated that our process in the past has Deen to set up a pubTic hearing when considering the installation of stop signs. Frank Breen recommended that no hearing be held since the petitioners indicated they would settle for two signs. Chief Anderson indicated there have been no accidents on the Columtia Heights side for a period of five years and there does�'t seem to De a need for the si9ns. Chairman Davitt asked if Fridley has an ordinance on visibility problems. The Assistant City Engineer indicated he was not sure if they have one. Louncilman Hentges recommended that Fridley remo�e the "yJeld" sign, replace it with a stop sign, and correct the visibility problem. The Assistant Lity Engi�eer asked again if there is a need for a hearing since the residenis had asked for four signs. There was further discussion on the need for a hearing. The Assistant City Engineer indicated this petition came about because of an accident on the iridley side about a month ago. He indicated he had talked to John Flora, Director of Public Norks/City Engineer for the City of Fridley, who indicated this petition had atready gone to their Energy Comnission and had been denied. IL will no go fo their Planning and Zoning Commission who witl make the finat recommendations this month. Louncilman Hentges suggested that a letter be sent to the City of Fridley recommending that they replace their "yield" sign with a stop sign and remove ihe hedges or tree branches which are blocking visibility. Me also suggested that a eopy of our visibility ordinance be attached. He noted there is no need for a public hearing and no justification for a four-way stop sign. The Assistant City fngineer indicated he could for- ward a letter to the Lity of Fridley expressing the commission's vieh�s. 1ie would also send a copy of our visibility ordinance. Motion by Fientges, seconded by Breen to forward a letter to the City of fridley recommending removal and replacement of the "yield" sia� with a"stop" sign, and that the City of Fridley take steps to remove tree branches or bushes necessary to improve visibility for south bound traffic on 2: Street f�.E. and that tAe City of Fridley report back to the Tra`fic Lommission with their final recomnendations. Roll Call: All Ayes Establish Nearin Date for "No Parkino" 2ones on 40th Avenue N.E. and Gould Avenue N.E. East o Central Avenue N.E. w�th�n the Downtown Develop- This r+as a request from the Chief of Police for consideration to establish s"no parking" zone on 40th Avenue N.E. east of Gentral Avenue N.E. to the Minutes of Traffic Cormission Meeting of October 4, 1962 page three alleyway east of the parkino �amp on the south side of 40th Avenue N.E. and to the east delivery driveNay on the north side of 40th Avenue N.E. for the shopping center. In addition, the Assistant Lity Engineer recom- mended that the commission also consider a"no parking" zone on the north side of Gould Avenue froR Ctntral Avenue N.E. to thc east property line of the municipat parking ramp. There was further discussion on this item. It was indicated that the commission tfiought we had already settled these items with the review of site plans for the downtown development. The Assistant City Engineer indicated that he did not think that "no parking" had been addressed at that time. Notion by Hentges, seconded by Breen to request a public hearing be held at ihe November 1, 1982 Traffic Lommission meeting to establish "no parking" zones on 40th Avenue N.E. and Gould Avenue N.E. Roll Lall: A11 Ayes There ►+as further discussion regarding parking in thi5 area. Lhief Anderson indicated that he Nas under the impression that the exits from tAe drive-thru bank should be aligned to be directly opposite the exit from the supermarket parking lot, however. they are not. It was noted that this recommendation was made at the July 7, 19Bt meeting. There was further discussion on the driveways. The Assistant City Enoineer in- dicated he will write the contractor a tetter requesting that one of the driveways be reconstructed to line up With the other as originally approved by the Traffic Comnission. LATE REQUE5T5: None REPORTS: City Enqineer: It was noted that the handicap sign was installed at 4522 Chatham Road N.E. and that the stop signs were installed at �i2= Avenue 1J.E. at fillmore Street. , Motion by Hentges, seconded by Breen to adjourn at 7:�5 p•m- The next meeti�g is scheduled for November 1, 1962 Rcspectfully submitted, � '�^�"�' Ardetle Burt Traffic Lo�miission Secretsry CITY CODE: 9.104 (7) Traffic Visibility On the corner lots within the required front yard, no planting or construction in excess of 30 inches above the abutting cur6 line shall be permitted within a triangular area as defined as follows: beginning at the intersection of the projected cur6 line of two intersecting 5treets, thence 30 feet along one curb tine, thence diagonatly to a point 30 feet from the point of beginning on the other curb line thence to point of beginning. i� �� f CENTER LINE , � ��- - . � �� i � O c�1 1 i � --30'-- -_ � f—PROPERTY LIA1E� � � CONTROLLED PLANTING OR CONSTRUCT�ON AREA � CITY OF FRIDLEY NlM1AN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETIN6 OCTOBER 1, 1482 CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson van Dan called the October 7, 1982, Human Resources Comnission meeting to order at 7:32 p.m. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Mary van Dan, Peter Treuenfets, Brian Goodspeed� Jayne Noble, Lynn Boergerhoff Nembers Absent: None Others Present: Mary Cayan, Human Resources Assistant APPROYAL OF AUGUST 5, 1982, HUMAN RESOURCES CONMISSION MINUTES: MOTION SY NR. TREUENFELS, SSCONDED BY XR, 80ERGSRNOFF� R�D APPROVE THE AUGUST 5� I9B2, XUNAN RESOURCSS C�lP17SSION MZNUTES AS WRITTEN. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CNAIRPfiRSON VAN DAN DECI.ARED THE MOTION CARRISD UNANSMOUSLY. 1. ACCESSIBILITY PR0IECT COhMITTEE UPDATE: Ms. Cayan stated that to date the Accessibility Project Committee has raised ;1,400 to be used for the publication of the accessibility guidebook. She stated Nedtronic was unable to make a monetany contribution. but did offer the free use of their printshop to do all the printing except the cover. Ms. Cayan stated the guidebook has been completely written and is now ready to go to press. Committee members will meet with Medtronic people next Week to work out the details. The book should be done by November 1, and Mr. Minton is planning to formally present it to the Comnission members at their Nov. 4th meeting. At that time, sl►e woutd look for a motion from the Comnission to dissolve the project committee since it will have fulfilled its purpose. Ms, van Dan stated the Actessbility Project Gc�rmittee is a fantastic committee; it has worked very hard and has done a very good job. Ms, van Dan stated the National Office on Disability has a 525,000 Awards Competition in observance of the comptetion of the 1982 National Year of Disabled Persons. A number of prizes will be presented. The purpose is to encourage cortmunity partnership and provide recognition of some excellent project that has HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 7, 1982 PAGE 2 . been completed, She stated Dec. 31 is the closing date to enter the competition. She stated the accessibility guidebook will be completed before that date, and she felt the Accessibility Project Caimittee met all the criteria required to enter. 1lOTION BY XR. TREUENFEIS., S&CONDED BY XR. COOASPEED� TO CONSULT WZTX BOB MINTON� CdAIRPERSON OF TNE ACCESSIBILITY PROJECT COMMITTEE, RND PURSUE THE NATIONAL OFFZCE ON DZSABILITY RWARAS CONPETITION. UPON A VOSCE YDTE� ALL VOTIN6 AYB� CRAZRPERSON VAN DAN DECLARED THE NOTZON CARRZED UNANINOUSLY. 2. IYDP HANDICAPPED SURVEY REPORT: Mr. Boergerhoff stated he has a copy of the text part of the survey results, and it has been rewritten since the copy the Commission members received at the last meeting. He stated there will be several sections, one section will deal with the results, and another section will deal with a graph form representing the results in several subject areas. He stated he has the material almost assembled, although it has not been typed in final fo►m and the graphs are not in final form. They are hoping to have the report completed by the end of October. He stated that if the efforts of the IYDP Project Canmittee meet the requirements of the National Office on Disability Awards Competition and if they can complete the survey report by the end of the year, he is considering entering the canpetition also. Ms. van Dan stated it might be more effective if the Comnission or the City of Fridley presented both the projects together. Mr. Boergerhoff stated if the survey is prepared in time, he felt entering both completed projects at the same time would be a very valuable contribution. Ms. Cayan stated the accessibility guidebook is actually an extension of the handicapped survey, because the survey documented the need for an accessibility guidebook in terms of the high response on barriers. It could be presented that way. MOTION TO AMEND TNE PREVIOOS XOTION BY XR. GOOASPEED� SECONDED BY XR. TREUENFELS, TXAT THS HUMAN RESOURCES COMMZSSION PURSUE TNE NATIONAL OFFZCE ON DISABILITY AWARAS COMPfiTITION FOR POTH TXE ACCESSIBILI2Y PROJECT COMMITTEE PROJECT AND TXE IYDP PROJBCT COMMITTEE PRA7SCT� CONTZNGENT UPON WHSTXER BOTX PRA7ECT5 CAN BE COMPLETSD BY THE NOVEMBER 6TH COMMZ5SION MEESINC. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAZRPERSON VAN DAN DECLARED THE MOTION CARRISD UNANIMOUSLY. Ms. van Dan stated the Comnission would finalize the application at their November meeting. HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 7, 1982 PAGE 6 UPON A VOZCE V01'S� ALL VOTINC> AYE� QIAIRPERSON VAN DAN DECZARED PHE 1�K)'1'ZON CARRSED UNANS!lOUSLY. Mr. Treuenfels stated that even though there was a primary election in Septenber and in NoKember the citizens of Fridley will go to the polls again for the general election� the School District 1i14 School Board thought it would be a good idea to have another election on October 4. He stated this had prompted another resolution. MOTION BY XR. TREUfiNFELS� SECOHDED 8Y KR, BOERGERHOFF, 2iD FORWRRD TXE FOLLOWSNG RESOLUTION TO THE SCBOOL BOARD OF INDEPENDENT SCHODL DISTRICT k24: "WHEREAS� TXE SCHOOL BOARD OF INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRSCT HI�� FRZDLEY, CAL7,ED FOR A REFERENDUN VOTE ON MONDRY� OCTOBER 4� I982, AND� WHERSAS THE FRIDLEY fiLECTORATE GOES TO TXE POLIS ON 2W0 OTHER � OCCASIONS THIS YEARf NAMELY OIJ SEPTEMBER 14 AND NOVEMBER 2j NOW� TXSRSFORE BE ZT RESOLVED: � THRT THE NUPlAN RESOURCES COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FRIDLEY SUGGESTS TNAT PQSSIBLY NORE VOTERS WOi7LD VOTE ON SCHODL BOARD NATTERS IF THE ELECTZON WAS XELD IN CONJUNCTZON WITX EITHER TNE PRIXARY OR (PREFERABLY) THE GENERAL ELECTIONp AND FURTHERNORE� RESPECTFULLY SUGGESTS TO TBE SCNOOL BOARD OF � INDEPENDENT SCNADL DZSTRICT 141a� FRIDLEY� THAT A JOINT CITIZENS' CO�IITTEE BE FORMED 1'O LOOK INTO TNE pUESTZON OF WHY SUCH VOTZNG CANNOT TAKE PLACE ON EITHER TXE PRZMARY OR GENERAL ELECTZON DATES." UPON A VOICE VOTfi� VAN AAIJ� TREUENFfiLS� BOfiRGERXOFF� AND GOODSPEED VOTING RYE� NOBLE ABSTAINING� CHAZRPERSON VAN DAN DECLARED TXE MOTION CARRIED. ADJOURNMENT: NOTION BY MR. GOOASPESD� SECONDED BY lIIi. TREUBNFELS� TO ADJOURN TNE NEETZNG. UPON A VOIC$ VOTE� ALL VOTINC, AYE� CHAIRPERSQN VAN L1AN DECLARED TXE OCT. 7� 1982� dUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION �JEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:22 P.M. Respectfully s itted, , y e •Sa a Recording Secretary HUMAN RESOURCES CONMISSION MEETING. OCTOBER 7� 1982 PAGE 5 Lo that meeting prepared with ideas of what they feel the role of the Human Resources Conmission shoutd be for the coming year. Ms, van Dan stated the Commission might be very interested in pursuing the upgradin9 of the votunteer system in the City. The commission system could be upgraded as far as recognition. a more fornwlized recruiting process. a more formalized orientation process for new commission memDers, etc, Because of the cuts in funding, the possibility of looking into volunteerism and how volunteers can be more effectively used in the community could be a very worthwhile project for tfie comi'ng year. The Comnission members agreed. Ms, van Dan stated another thing they could discuss is the utilization of cable TV. 7. LEAGUE OF MINNESOTA HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION MEMBERSHIP STATUS: Ms. Cayan stated the fee has been paid� and tbe Human Resources Comnission is now an official member of the League of Minnesota Human Rights Commission. The Comnission members' names and addresses have all been recorded� and they should start receiving all information and newsletters fran the League. 8. OTHER BUSINESS: a. Resolutions Mr. Treuenfels referred to a letter dated Aug. 11 fran Tom Myhra setting a meeting date of Aug. 18 for the Fridley Clubs Cnoperative Forum Gavel Club. The 6ave1 Club is open to presidents and representatives of Fridley service groups. This meeting was calted for Wed., Aug. 18 at 9:30 a.m. The meeting time was very upsetting to him. He stated he had written a resolution in response to this. !�lOTION BY J�Ft. TRSUfiNFfiLS� SECOND&D BY lIR. GOOI�PEED� TO FORWARD THE FULLOWING RSSOLUTION TO THfi C0.MMUNITY EDUCATION RDVZSORY COfJNCZL: "WSEREAS� THE MEETINC OF THE GAVEL CLUB ON AUGUST 38 WAS SCHSDULED'TO BEGIN AT 9r30 IN TNE NORNING, AND WHEREAS� S0.Mfi CIVICALLY ACTZVE PERSONS IN PRIDLEY WORK POR _ - TffEIR L79ING AND CANNOT TyASSLY LEAVE THfiIR J085 AT 9:30 IN TXE MORNING; . NOW THfiREFORS BE IT RfiSOLV6Dr TIIAT T8S SUMAX RESOURCES CQI�klZ6SION HEREBY DfiP7ARES THS GR0.SSLY SNCQN(�SNIBNT TIMfi OF THS MSfiTING OF AUGUST 1B AAD RESPfiCTFULLY ASKS TXB CONNUNITY SAUCATIOIV ADVISORY CWNCIL TD SUGGEST Rt� TNfiIR SSTESMED DIRSCTOR TXAT FUTURE XSSTINGS E�E SCREDULED FOR A XORE NORMAL AND A MORE NATURAL TSME, NAMSLY IN TBE SVBNING." .� HUMAN RESWRCES CqMI5SI0N MEETING, OCTOBER 7. 1982 PAGE 3 3. 1982 NATIONAL OFFICE ON DISABILITY LIAIS�i RECOFMENDATION: Ms. van'Dan stated the National Office on Disabi7ity, as a successor to the U.S. Gouncil. wishes to continue on for one year. and they are asking again for -M�ayors to dedicate liaison persons and continue the effort in 1982 and beyond. She stated this does not involve any aaney; and since the Comnission has not yet prepared their 1983 work plan, it might be something they would like to pursue. Mr. Boergerhoff stated he would express hts interest; although his comnission term expires in April 1983. Should he stay with the Comnission. he would be happy to continue as a liaison person. Ms. van Dan asked Ms. Cayan to present the Liaison Designation Form to the Mayor, and if the Mayor agrees, to forward it on to Washington D.C. 4. NO-FAULT GRIEYANCE PROCEDURE: Ms. van Dan stated the Commission had to make a decision at this meeting as to whether or not they wanted to proceed with implementing the No-Fault Grievance Procedure. S6e asked the Commission members to:express their feelings on this subject. Ms. Noble stated she had not attended any of the No-Fault Grievance Procedure training sessions; therefore, she was not very wetl educated on what was involved. 5he stated if they are going to have people coming to Commission meetings and airing grievartces, she was not interested. She did not have the time to devote to training sessions or any extra meeting;. Mr. Treuenfels stated if the Commission does decide to go forward with the No- Fault 6rievance Procedure, the littte cortmittee that would be set up would not necessarily involve Human Resources Commission members. It can involve those ca�nissioners who have expressed an interest and it can involve people from the ca�munity. The meetings would be held very informally, and would not involve Camnission meetings. The �mbers of this cammittee would have no powers whatso- ever; they do not take sides. but onty make sure both parties are talking. Mr. Treuenfels stated the one tegat implfcation involved is that as each case arises. the people have to be made aware that they have six months to go to the State Department of Human Rights; and if they wish to try to settle the dispute at the locat 1eve1, they should not drag it out too long and therefore tose the opportunity to go to the State DeparUnent of Human Rights. It has been decided informally that after four months. if no agreement has been reached, the camnittee would recamiend the people go on to the State. Nr. Boergerhoff stated he agreed with Ms. Noble in that he could not commit any additional time outside the Human Resources Comnission for this effort, but within the Camission, it has his support, If there was interest expressed by other Cammission members. he felt they should go forward with the No-Fault Grievance Procedure. HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 7, 1982 PAGE 4 Mr. Goodspeed stated he did attend the training session. He was in favor of proceeding and would be willing to participate in the No-Fault Grievance eommi ttee. Ms. van Dan stated she was in favor of it snd would like to pursue the concept with the City Councit. Mr. Treuenfels stated he was also interested in pursuing the concept with the City Council. MOTZON BY MR. TREUENFELS� SECONDED BY MR, GDDASPEED� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY CWNCIL TNE ESTABLZSHMENT OF A NO-FAULT GRZEVANCE PROCEDURE COMMITTEE TO BE COMPOSED OF SNTERESTED AND TRAINED CITSZENS OF TXIS COMMUNITYf THE COMMITTEE fAOULD OPERATE ESSENTIALLY ZNDEPENDBNTLY OF THE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION OR ANY OTHER AGENCY OP THE CITY OF FRIDLEY. UPON A VDICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CAAIRPSRSON VAN DAN DECLARED THE NOTION CARRZED UNANZMOUSLY. 5. HUMAN SERYICES fUN0IN6 BY THE CITY OF FRIDLEY: STAFF REPORT Ms. Cayan stated the City Council has allocated some funds to the three aqencies recommended by the Human Resources Cortmission. and she has been told to forward letters of notification to those three agencies. The funds were allocated as follows: Ms. Cayan stated the suspended as of 1983, next year. 51,500 - The Alexandra House 1.500 - SACA 2s600 - Central Center for Family Resources �7�UUU letter was also to state that the funding process has been so the Commission will not be reviewing funding requests Ms. van Dan stated this was excellent news. and she wanted ta express hers and the Commission's appreciation to the City Council. NOTION BY MR. TREUENFEZS� SECONDED BY MR. GOOASPEED� TO EXPRESS THE HUMAN RESOURCES C0I4MISSION�S APPRSCIATZON TD THE CITY COUNCIL FOR TXE FUNDZNG OF THE THREE ORCANIZATIONS TXAT THE BUMAN RESOURCES COMMZSSZON HAS ALWAYS FELT ARE VSRY WORTHWHSLE ORG1(NI2ATIONS, UPON A VDZCE YOTE� ALL VOTSNG AYE� CNAZRPERSON VAN DAN DECLARfiD THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIXOUSLY. 6. 1983 COMMISSION NORKPLAN DISCUSSION: Ms, van Dan stated she fiad not had time to work on any proposed projects for the coming year. She suggested that any further discussion on this item be continued untii the November meeting and that the Commission members cane CITY OF FRIDLEY APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING - TUESDAY, OCTOBER 12, 1982 7:30 P.M. CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Gabel called the October 12, 1982 Appeals Comnissio� meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Patricia Gabel, Jim Plemel, Alex Barna, Donald Betzold, Jean Gerou Others Present: Darrelt Clark, City of Fridley fordon Aspenson, 17 Rice Creek Way Eugene Kreuzkemper, 6881 Highway 65 NE Carmen Kruezkemper, 6881 Highway 65 NE Mr. Kubinski, LAMAUR, Inc. Mr. Olson, LAMAUR, Inc. APPROYAL OF MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 21, 1982: MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Betzold, to approve the Appeals Comnission minutes of September 21, 1982, as written. UPON A VOICE YOTE, ALL YOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLI'. 1. TABLED: r. [d% �►cequest oy �oraon �. Aspenson, Lampert Building N.E., Fridley, Mn 55432 MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mrs. ferou, to remove this item from the table. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALLYOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON fABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mrs. 6erou, to open the public hearing. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 7:35 P.M. Chairperson Gabel read the Staff Report: ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT 7600 Hlphrar i65 N.E. A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REOUIREMElR: Sectlon 214.D47, A2, �squirss s eeaisu� sizs of 80 squera feet for a trss sLsndSnD �iD�• Public purpose servsd by thic requireoent is Lo control risusl potlution end sxcessivs use of siyns in lnduatrisl aress. Aapeals Comnission Meeting - October 12 1982 Paae 2 B. STATED NARD811IP: "To p�opsrly �dv��tis� to Hiyh�sy /65 bacauss of dicts�cs to hiphrsy." C. ADMINISTAATIVE STAFF REYIE�: A �squest for • 210 •quer� foot [10' : 21') pylon cign was dentsd by the Bosrd of ApDeets on 7/25/78 Isee sttsched ■inutesl. The exfattng pylon olpn 1s 744 squsra fest (8' a 1B') nhich Mes approvsd on Aupuet 21, 1978 for � st:s variance and hss the wessage of "Lampert BuSldinp Cent��". The relt sipnage �as approved by staff on 5/14/82 (see atteched •ipn perott). Lampe�t p�oposes to initatl •n •dditfonsl 92 aquars foot (4' a B') lighted panel to the saietSny pylon rhich woutd bs a oenusl chsngeahle eessege csntsr. The Lotat oquare footepe with thic additSonal sipnege �ould be 176 squara feet, a varlanca fn •ign size of 96 square feet over ths atlo�ed BO epuare feet for thie dictrict. If appraved, ths Commlcsion eey rant Lo conaider the follo�inp etipulstions: 1. Screeninp of east parkiny s�ea fros public ripht of wey. Y. Screen outsfde ctoraps from puDtic V1BM slony eest, wect �nd north. 8. Repa1� and �aintain exSstinp fencs. I. ProvSde protection of fsnce from vehicles and etorsgs. 5. Outside storays is 2— 3 faet abavs fence lins. 6. Outeide opon �ir ssles srea oay need a SpecSal Usa Penoit snd io Osinp located in pe�kinp tot. Mr. Gordon Aspe�son was present for this matter. Mr. Clark pointed out one cor- rection to tfie Commission and stated that the sign they are adding has already been installed and that items i through 6 from the Staff Report have been discussed with the building center and are part of the building permit that was issued today. He felt the Commission did not have to concern themselves with items 1 through 6. He stated that Mr. Hill met with Mr. Aspenson regarding these items. Mr. Aspenson stated that he was not the manager in 1978 (he is presently the manager) and he did not know why the sign was installed without a permit or a variance and that he could not find anything in the files on it. He felt it was quite important for them to advertise to the highway. He stated he thought the smalt sign was added about 4 years ago when the store was added onto and he felt that the sign is not too large or out of place. Ms. Gabel asked Mr. Aspenson if he understood that the City has a sign code and asked what he would do if he was asked to take it down. Mr. Aspenson said he would hate to do it, but he would take it down. He also said the sign does help them with their business. Mr. Barna asked if he had any actual experiences that the sign brought in business and Mr. Aspenson•said he had, es- pecialty when they advertise their specials. Ms. Gabel stated that the reason Lampert was allowed to increase the original sign was that the Cortmission members had driven up and down the higfiway and determined the sign would be far enough back from the highway. Mr. Aspenson said the sign is really noticeable at night as it is a lighted sign. Ms. fabel said she was really surprised that this had happened with the sign as the past Commission minutes make it clear as to the size of the sign. Mr. Barna said his personal experie�ce is to see what is the outside display rather than try Appeals Comoission Meeting - October 2, 1982 Page 3 to read the sign. Nr. Plenel asked if they are open Sundays and Mr. Aspenson said they are as tfley are competing heavily with 6usinesses such as Menard's. Ms. 6abe1 stated the signs are very difficult to control and can get easily out of hand and informed Mr. Aspenson of the committee who wrote the new sign ordinance and the strong comnunity feeliag that tfiere are too many signs in the city and that she was somewhat offended in that a variance was granted in this matter and someone went ahead and put up a larger sign. Mr. Aspenson said that person is no longer witfi the company and that he personally has no responsibility for that. Ms. 6abe1 said she is not sure how to control the next situation and asked how long they are planning to keep the "open on Sundays" sign. Mr. Aspenson said they�will take that sign down imnediately. Ms. Gabel asked if the lighted sign is plastic and what is the life expectancy. Mr. Aspenson said the sign is a"message center" and would last a long time if it is maintained. Mr. Plemel asked about problems with vandalism and Mr. Aspenson said rocks are thrown at it every now and then but they have no real problems. Mr. Betzold asked how long he has been manager and if there has 6een a change in ownership. Mr. Aspenson said he has been manager for a little over 2 years and that he has worked for Lampert for over 20 years and that there has not been a change in ownership. MOTION by Mr. Plemel, seconded by Mrs. 6erou, to close the public hearing. UPON A VOICE YOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON 6ABEL OECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 7:50 P.M. Mrs. 6erou noted that there are two companies competing against each other and Mr. Plemel said there has to 6e restrictions and Fridley is a little more restrictive than other communities and the residents appreciate that. He also felt that 25-30X of the variance requests are for signs. Ms. Gabel noted that everybody wants more signs (companies) and that the Commission has 6een very fair in the past in granting the variance to Lampert. She aiso noted that Lampert has been in Fridley for many years and could not see their lack of knowledge as justification for granting a variance. Mr. Plemel felt this was a difficult decision; he drives by Lampert twice a day and does not think the sign is offensive and feit there is a need for it. Ms. Gabel agreed that it is not offensive. Mr. Barria stated that Lampert is very far off the road and that a larger main sign could be 3ustified and he has a hard time telling a 6usiness that Lhey cannot advertise their specials, especially when the economy is bad. Mr. Plemel suggested they could just leave the sign and look at it in 2-3 years. Ms. Gabel said she was very concerned about the type of precedence being set in allowing this and how would you control it. Mr. Betzold said he was very disturbed about the sign being put up by tfie previous management; that some- body took advantage of the situation and ignored the variance that was given. Mr. Kreuzkemper (here for agenda item 2) stated that he reads the sign all the time and finds it enlightening. MOTION by Mr. Plemei, seconded by Mr. Barna, that the Appeals Comr+ission recomnend to the City Council, through the Planning Comnission, approval of Lhe request to increase the square footage for a free standing sign from 144 square feet to 176 square feet, to allow a 4 ft. by 8 ft. lighted sign, on Parcell 3600, Section 12, the same being 7600 Highway �65 N.E., Fridley, Minnesota, to be reviewed at the end of three years by the Appeals Comnission. UPON A VOICE YOTE, TWO YOTING "AYE" AND THREE YOTING "NAY", CHAIRPERSON GABEL OECLARED THE MOTION FAILED. �peals Commission Meetina - October 12 1982 Paae 4 2. MOTION by Mrs. Gerou, seconded by Mr. Plemel, to open the public hearing. UPON A YOICE VOTE, ALL YOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARIN6 OPEN AT 8:03 P.M. Chairperson Gabel read the Staff Report: A�MINIBTAATIVE $TAFF REPORT 6687 Ntphti�y {85 N.E. A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED 8Y REOUIREMENT; Sectton 205.073, 4A, repui�es a■ini�uo front yard eetbeck of 85 fset fo� per�itted bulLdinps. Public purpoee served by Lhis requtrasent ts to atto■ for off-strset perkln p�lthout eneroaching on the public �1pht of �ay snd also for aesthetic con eida�etfon to �sducs LAe buildinp "lina of sipht" encroachaent lnto Lhe nsiphbor's front y�rd. Section 2D5.073, 4B, 13, rsqutred s■ini�u■ sida yard eetEack of 35 feet rhere the eide yerd ebuts a st�eet on a corne� Lot. Public purpose served by this requi�eaent 1s to ■afntain a higher degree of traffic vieibillty snd to reduce the "lins of cipht" encroechment into the naighbo�'s front ya�d. B. STATED NARDSHIP: "The entrytay �ill enebLe ue to keep exceseive rind and cold fram eniering offics. It rill slso save enerpy. Most people tend to etand ■ith the door open rhite sskSng questions. The entry�ey •fll � also keep our customers out of the ■ind end cold until we are able to ans�ar the Oell. The patio deck �e rent to locete outside the office south wall wlll eneble us to enjoy e�uch fuLLar [ife styla. Me operate ou� business seven days a weak, 24 hours a dey. Me ere confined to the inside of Lhe buildinp becauee ■• have to ansra� the phona end ■ait on cuetosere. The eize of the business does not allo■ us enough ineome to pey outside help rhila �e e re arey fro� the offics." C. ADMINISTAATIVE ST/IFF REYIEY: The aecond rartance ic for the constructio� of � restibu[e in front of the ■ain entrance to the offics. If tha Board approvas this vsriance, �e heve no stipulations to suggest. Appeals Comoission Meeting - October 12, 1982 Page 5 Ths first varience re do have so�s concsrns �Eoui et it would ■�sn a dsck tiould bs conetructed ripht next Lo e publlc �1pht of �ey. I havs oet rith the orne� and suyyested thst Lh�y butld ths d�ck out ths weat eide; the same es tha rsstibul�. N• steted he rould �ueh rsLher conairuct 1t to tha &otlth bscauts h• fsals it ■outd be a Little wore private and recetve w �e houro of sun. To tha petittoners benefit. thers is s 17 foot sida boulevard on 68th Av�nus. Ths botto� ot the deck would be sbout 4 fe�t off ths p�ound so �ny traffic on 6Bth Avenue rould be abls to bs sean fro� under the deck by sny trefflc leaviny the a1te. If the deck verfance is epproved, we reco�oend th�t the area undar the deck 1f lsft open for traffic risibllity. Nr. and Mrs. Kreuzkemper were present for this matter. Mr. C1ark made one correction on the Staff Report: The third paragraph from the bottom sfauid read ".. much rathe• construct it to the south, .." (insert tRe word south instead of north . He stated that as far as the vestibule, they presently are suggesting that this k��nd of tRing 6e allowed without a variance up to 5 feet, on an existing structure only, and the entry be no more than a maximum of 50 square feet. He has discussed the deck with the petitioners and stated they sincerely wish to build on the south side. He showed the comnission an aeriat view of the area and said the property to the rear (east) does not front onto 68th so it is not an encroachment. Mr. Kreutkemper stated the reasons for wanting to put up an entryway: He said it will keep the wind and cold from coming into the office and save energy and give people a place to stand while they are waiting for the bell to be answered. He said a deck on the south side will give them more hours of sun and felt it was the best location for the deck. Mr. Plemel asked about having the deck on the west side. Mr. Kreuzkemper explained that they would not be able to see the customers coming in' and Mr. Kreuzkemper explained that he has some mobility problems. Mr. Betzold asked how close the deck would be to the street and Mr. Clark said there is a 17 foot boulevard on G8th. Mr. Plemel noted that 68th is not highly travelled but it di� not seem a likely place for a deck. Nr. Kreuzkemper said the reason they want it there is because it is right off the office and they can move easily to take care of the custamers: that there is parking on the north side and front side and in the rear it would be too far away from the office and they would not be able to use the deck and at the same time take care of customers. He said it is the most convenience place for them and did not see how it would obstrutt traffic.. Mr. Clark felt it would not obstruct traffic. , Mr. Plemel asked if they thou9ht of putting up a yield sign or stop sign for people coming out of their driveway. Ms. Gabel asked if they have any problems with vandalism and Mr. Kreuzkemper said no. Mr. Betzold asked what kind of deck it would be and Mr. Kreuzkemper said it would be a normal vertical board-on-board railing and open underneath. Mr. Barrta asked if they thought they would be opening themselves up for someone entering by swinging up on the deck. Mr, Kreuzkemper they are never closed and someone is always there. MOTION by Mr. Betzold, seconded by Mrs. Gerou, to close the public hearing. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIN6 AYE, CHAIRPERSON fABEI DECLARED THE PUBIIC HEARIN6 CLOSED AT 8:20 P.M. �peals Cortmission Meetina - October 12, 1982 Paae 6 Mr. Barna felt the entryway should almost be a required item and the vestibule will save energy. Ms. Gabet said more and more cities were passing this code. Mr. Plemel was certainly in favor of tfie vestibule and felt there should be two motion on this agenda item. MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Betzold, that the Appeals Commission recommend to tT�ie City Council, through the Planning Commission, approvai of the request to reduce the side yard setback from the required 35 feet to 30 feet to allow the con- struction of a new entry way, located on Lots 5, 6, and 7, Block 1, Yalley Yiew Manor, the same being 6881 Highway #65 N.E., Fridley, Minnesota, 55432. UPON A YOICE YOTE, ALL YOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANI- MOUSLY. MQTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Betzold, that the Appeals Comnission recommend to the City Council, through the Planning Commission, approval of the request to reduce the front yard setback, for the construction of a 10 ft. by 14 ft. elev ated deck on the south side of present structure, from the required 25 feet to 0 feet, located on Lots 5, 6, and 7, Block 1, Yalley Yiew 1�ianor, the same being 6881 Highway A65 N.E., Fridley, Mi�nesota, 55432. Discussion on Motion: Mr. Plemel said he could not understand putting a deck on the south side but would be in favor of it. Mr. Barna asked how far the deck would be from the blacktop and Mr. Clark said it would be 17 feet. Mr. Barna then asked if it was going to block someone's view and Mr. Plemet said it would not as long as it is open underneath and asked about a yield sign and if the city could put that in. Mr. Kreuzkemper said that part of the property where the driveway comes out belongs to the city and he has no objection to a sign being put there. Mr. Betzold felt the are a is fairly well tucked away and will not change for a while and is in favor of the motion. Mrs. Gerou said she could see the hardship of Mr. and Mrs. Kreuzkemper and is in favor ofthe motion. UPON A VOICE YOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON fABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIEO UNANIMOUSLY. 3. VARIANCE � UES ver Koaa. TD CHAPTER 214 OF THE FR OR A FREE STANDING SIGN SE THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT FR TS 13 AND 14 AUDIIOR'S ROAD. Request by Ron K ey. Mn �5432). CITY CODE nski, �a r�aur, tnc., MOTION by Mr. Betzold, seconded by Mrs. 6erou, to open the public hearing. UPON A YOICE YOTE, ALL VOTIN6 AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 8:30 P.M. Chairperson Gabel read the Staff Report: ADMIMISTRATIYE STAFF REPORT 5801 Eest Rtv�� Rosd N.E. A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY pEOUIRE11E1fT: Ssetton 214.047, A2, ��qui�sc a■exi�u� slyhty [80) squ��s foot frse itsndi ep sisn"pe� devslop�ent. �peats Commission Meeting - October 12, 1982 Page 7 Public purpos• s��r�d by Lh1s ��qui��nt 1t to cont�ol vfsu�l potlution ��d •acsssiv uss of sipns in indu�t�i�l • nac. S�cLion 214.047, A3, r�quirss a■aai�u■ A�iyht of L�enty—fiva I251 fs�t fro� fSnfchsd pround l�vsl. Public purpose serv�d by ths ��qui�s�ent 1s to control visuel pollution �nd sxeessirs uae of sipns in induetrial s�ses. B. STATED HARQSHIP: •The •dded hslpht •nd •tz• of ths sipn f�cSnp Snterctete 694 ic requfrsd for tha people to }deniffy th• facility fro■ tha intaretate rhich �e feal 80 squsrs fsst ic not sufficStnt. Ths •ddsd hsipht •ill slao h�lp in •ekinp the sipn �ors spps��nt. C. ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REYIE�: Th�re •re L�o s:iotinp free standinp sipn• on this propsrty. TAe •ntrsncs slpn off Esst Rire� Rosd hes slready bssn chsnped under Sipn Psrett ifi07. This ne� sipn is only 9 aquars fsat eo�pared to tAe 45 squers fsat sllo�ed under the orfpinsl sipn p�r�ft /45. Tha othsr sfyn ic currsntly 84 aqus�s feet •nd ths p�titiona� is �squsctfnp a t��pe� siyn of 111 squa�e feet ■tth • h�ipht of 28 fsst 4-3/4 inehes. Ths staff hac no probLems �ith this rsqusst if th� Board'a •ctSOn is to epprovs ths r��iancea. Mr. Kubinski and Mr. Olson, of LAMAUR, Inc., were present for this matter. Ms. Gabe1 noted that the biggest visual obstruction in this area are the plantings that need to 6e trimned and asked why they wanted to change their sign. Mr. Olson said they have changed their logo and they are changing their stationery and letter- head and hope to change their signs. He said there is not much difference with what they currently have for a sign; he said they don't do a lot of retail business from their establishment, they are strictly a manufacturing business. He said they manufacture cosmetics. Mr. Barna asked the reason for a larger sign. Mr. Olson said this was for trucks, visitors and vendors and they are no different from General Mi11s or Pillsbury; this place is their corporate headquarters and they are paying a premium for their location and want people to know they are there. Mr. Plemel asked about their cosmetic brand names and Mr. Olson said Style is one of their brand names. Mr. Olson said they have a smaller sign off East River Road and they just have the two signs and they are asking to go up about 4 feet so they can be seen above the landscape. Ms. Gabel asked if they anticipated any wall sig�age and Mr. Olson said they do not. Ms. Gabe1 stated the existing sign is hard to see and she can see the need to raise the sign and suggested that maybe they could talk to the Highway Department about trimming the trees. Mr. Plemel felt tha± this was not too much of a change with the new sign. Ms. Gabel felt the sign should defi- nitely come up. Mr. Plemel also saw the need for more visibility as the trees are definitely an obstruction and that the company would like a little more recognition. Mr. Betzoid felt this was keeping within the guidelines and this situation is where the sign is far removed from the highway; not sitting right on the highway and he hoped that the replacement sign is as attractive as the present sign. Ms. Gabel stated you can see the hardship by just driving by the company. Appeals Commisston Meetina - October 12, 1982 Paae 8 MOTION by Mr. Plemel, seconded 6y Mrs. 6erou, that the Appeals Commission recomnend to the City Council, througB the Planning Comnissio�, approval of the request to increase the maxim�o size for a free standing sign from 80 square feet to 120 square feet: and increase the �ximum height from 25 feet to 29 feet, to be located on part of Lots 13 and 14, Auditor's Subdivsion No. 78, the same 6eing 5601 East River Road, Fridley, Minnesota, 55432. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE 1�(1TION CARRIED UNANINpUSLY. OTHER BUSINESS: Chairperson 6a6e1 informed the Comnission that the Planning about the Appeals Commission decision on the bi116oard to be University Avenue N.E. and they made a motion to disapprove felt this xas inconsistent with past policies. ADJOURNMENT: Commission was unhappy placed on 73rd and the variance as they MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mrs. Gerou, to adjourn. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING OF OCTOBER 12, 1982, ADJOURNED AT 9:00 P.M. Respectfully su6mitted, Deb Niznik, Recording Secretary ��.. .. ... �' CITY OF F ��, ., ,�_ ,i. K - �:� ' Et�1IR�ENTAi.- (�AL F�E'fi ;� � k��, $ p�'' . . . .�� SF� RI016Y. � 2'i�f, �9�ON' ' PI� r; OCTOBER 13. 1982 ;. � �� . E. :�. ;, ,��`Svanda ca7led the•October 13, 1�82, Environmental Quality; _ +�'F�s'i�a.meeiing ta ot^der at 7:40 p.m �,•.*��' ;a�r�-•i'resent: Richard Svanda, Maynard i�feison, Marcia Schaaf ��s �b..5e�t: Bruce ?eterson, Jvn Erickson :#�s PreSent; Biit Eleblon, Associate Ptanner 15,� 19$2, ENVIR S$GONDSD BY ?IIi. �. -�kLI7Y CtN�NI5SI0N MINUTESs � d�a �?,3iPPROVfi TX8 SEPTEMBER 25� 19$?, �4'�N+ PG AYS� CAAI#PEi�&O]T lR�Al7l�A DBCLARED THE MOTZON : PROC�55Eii� �AGILITY ted tf+e M�nnesota Waste Manaaq�nt B�rd was having an >slon LMat evening at the �sev�lt Jr. High Schoot in 9laine. �ission-memhers might be i�ierested in attending this �r to get more specific irr€of�m3�i�n about the hazartlous,waste ility sites designated hy tFce �i�te Manage�nt Board. �aembers.agreed to adjourn #�,�eet3ng and attend the meeting PZBISQN� ,S8CON718'i1 BY 11S. SCAIIAF� ?O ALVOURR THS OCT. 23, Z982, s�ALiTY CQNAE3SSIE7W a18STING AT �t50 P.1V. t+ora, � voTrxc �xs, CAAIRPERSCW SVA1'7LU1 DSGLSRED THS XOTZON �'I�Y. d ittEd� :�..F�,�,.� ,.�� atary , , .,., � � � �� 9 '��r s�� bl#fR Sia � ` 't�lfse� -Sa@ �� ° : #�� _�n nr�i �� .?�. �i� t�� ' ��~�ss#dn �_ �°�±t ��Aine. �'• . ' iRRYd��71Ri4'l4iA�` � �.c�*,.� �i��?,. � i;lN _ � °.�5 �� ,- �� - � :� � t � � �1 � � PLANNIf�� CALL TQ ORDER: CITY Of FRIDLEY COMMISSIQN MEETING, aCTOBER 27, 1982 Chairwoman Schnabel called the October 27, 1982, Planning Commission meeting to order at 7:35 p.m. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Oquist, Ms. Gabel, Mr, Nielson (for Mr. Svanda), Ms. van Dan, Mr. Saba Members Absent Others Present: Mr. Kondrick Jerrold Boardman, City Planner Richard N. Carlson, 3509 Maplewood Dr., 55418 APPROVAL OF SEPTEMBER 29, 1982, PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY MR, OQUIST� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO APPROVE THE SEPTEMBER 29� 2982� PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAZRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLIIRED THE MOTION CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY. . Ms. Schnabel stated that at the Sept. 29, 1982, Pianning Commission meeting, the Commission members had received a copy of a letter from Nancy Hendrickson, President of the Fridley Chamber of Commerce, in which Ms. Hendrickson was requesting the City Council to consider carefully the importance of losing Cub Foods from the City of Fridley. Ms. Gabel had stated that Ms. Schaaf, a member of the Chamber's Board of Directors, had said the letter was not written with the agreement of the Board of Directors and that the letter was not repre- sentative of the entire Chamber of Cortanerce. Ms. Schnabel stated she had received another letter from Ms. Hendrickson in response to the position taken by Ms. Schaaf. Ms. Hendrickson stated that of the ll Chamber of-Comnerce Board of Directors, 10 were in agreement to send a letter to the City supporting the rezoning. Ms. Hendrickson stated Ms. Schaaf could not be reached for her vote. When 10 voted in favor of the letter support- ing the rezoning, Ms. Hendrickson stated they felt that was a majority of the Board of Directors and, therefore, represented the majority of the membership. 1. PU SPECIAL USE PERMIT rer �ectlon zUb.lUl, 3, ti, to allow the property, Strite-Anderson, described as of Section 12, the same being 7585 Viron 7501 Viron Road N.E.) #82-10, BY VIKING CHEVROLET: storage o new ve ic es on adjacent Parcel 2700 in the north one-half Road N.E. (Viking Chevrolet, There were no representatives from Viking Chevrolet at the meeting. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OCTOBER 27 19&2 PAGE 2 MOSION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� SO CONTINUE SP N82-10� BY VIKING CHEVROLET UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING� AND TO ASK STAFF TO NOTIFY VIKING CHEVROLET THAT REPRESENTATIVES SHOULD BE PRESENT AT THAT MEETING. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWO.MAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 2. VACATION REQUEST: SAV #82-03, PARK CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, BY RICHARD N. CARLSON: Vacate Longfeiiow Street between Lots 18-23 in B oc 5, and between Lots 24-27, Block 4, Spring Brook Park, and vacate alley in Block 4, Spring Brook Park,between Lots 22 and 23, and Lots 24-27, all East of Burlington Northern railroad tracks, to be part of equipment yard at 7900 Beech Street N.E. Mr. Boardman stated the request was for the vacation of the street located along the railroad tracks behind Park Construction's main fa�i7ity, He stated there is a 35' sanitary sewer easement and a Minnegasco easement across that street, He stated the City would request that those two easements be retained and to request a 30 ft. drainage/utility and access easement on the westerly 30 ft, Mr. Boardman stated it was the City's concern that at some point in time, the City may be looking at trying to divert some of the flow from Stoneybrook and Spring Brook and the Nature Center. It may be an alternative to go along the railroad line so they may need 30 ft. of right-of-way to do a piping system to divert some of the flow. Mr. Boardman stated another concern was access to �he back lots, Park Construc- tion owns most of the property to the north and south, but some of the property in between is not owned by Park Construction, so the City would like to retain some access easement into the back area. Mr. Carlson stated he did knot know how many easements were needed, because there are already three easements across that property. He stated North Suburban Sanitary Sewer District has an easement, NSP has an easement, and he had not been aware that Minnegasco also had an easement. Why does the City of Fridley need another easement? Mr. Boardman stated the City is not asking for an additional easement; their easement would go over the top of the present easements. Mr. Carlson stated the property is unbuildable and unusable at this time. All they want to use the property for is storage. He stated he owns and pays taxes on that property, and he would be opposed to the City of Fridley taking away property that would make that property unusable. He stated he would not be opposed to an underground drainage system, but he was opposed to an open ditch. With an underground drainage system, the property would still be usab7e. He stated he was not opposed to the access easement. Mr. Boardman stated that if it was possible for the City to go underground with a drainage system, then he would not be opposed to that alternative. Mr. Car7son stated he also plans to put up the proper screening and plantings PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 27, 1982 PAGE 3 MOTIDN BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST� TO RECOMMEND TD CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OP VACATION REQUEST� SAV �82-03� PARK CONSTRUCTION COMPANY� EY RICHARD N. CARLSON, TO VACATE LONGFELIAW STREET BETWEEN LOTS Z8-23 IN BLOCK 5� AND 9ETWEEN LOTS 24-27� BLOCK 4� 5PRING BROOK PARK� AND VACATE ALLEY IN BLOCK 4� SPRING BRODK�PARK� BETWEEN LOTS 22 AND 23� AND LOTS�24-27� ALL EAST OF BURLING— TON NORSHERN RAILROAD TRACKS, TO BE PART QF EQUIPMENT YARD AT 7900 BEECH STREET N.E., WITH THE FOLZAWING STIPULATZONS: 1. THE CITY RETAIN�AN ACCESS EASEMENT TO THE BACK LOTS� � 2. ANY DRAINAGE SASEMENT BE RESTRICTED TO UNDERGROUND PIPING UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIct90USLY. Mr. Boardman stated this item would go to the City Council on Dec. 6, 3. RECEIVE SEPTEMBER 16, 1982, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES: MOTION BY MS. VAN DAN� SECONDED BY MR, OQUIST� TO RECESVE THE SEPT. I6� 1982� HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTNORITY MINUTES. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNRBEL DECLARED THE MOT20N CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 4. RECEIVE SEPTEMBER 21,1982, ENVIRONMENTAL 4UALITY COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY MR. NIEL50N� SECONDED SY MS. GABEL� SO RECEIVE THE SEPT. 21� 1982� ENVIRQNMENTAL QUALITY COMMIS$ION MINUTES. Ms. Schnabel stated that regarding the hazardous waste processing facility sites, there was going to be a public information meeting on Wed., Nov. 17, at 7:00 p.m. in the Blaine Sr. Nigh cafeteria. She stated the Environmenta] Quality Commission members might be interested in attending that meeting. Mr. Boardman stated the City Council was going to have someone from the Metro- politan Waste Control speak at City Hall on Nov. 15. There would also be some- one to talk about hazardous waste. He stated it sounded like it would be an interesting meeting. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHASRWOMAN SCHNABSL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 5. RECEIVE SEPTEMBER 27, 1982, PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY MR, SASA� SECONDED BY MS. VAN DAN� TO RECEIVE THE SEPT. 27� Z982� PARKS & RECREATZON COMMISSIUN MSNUTESc UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 27, 1982 PAGE 5 UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNRBEL DEC.L�1Rfi'D THE MOTION CAR.RIED UNANIMOUSLY. 6. RECEIVE SEPTEMBER 28, 1982, ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MS, VAN DRN� TO RECEIVE THE SEPTEMSER 28� Z982� ENERGY COMMSSSION MINUAES. UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNRBEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRISD UNANIMQUSLY. Ms. Schnabel 2 2 St. , the Council that stated that regarding the request for Energy Contnission had made a motion on the request for stop signs be denied. stop signs at 45th Ave. & page 7 to recommend to City Mr. Saba stated that as far as the Energy Commission could determine, there has only been one accident at this intersection, and because of that accident, it has creaied concern in the neighborhood which is understandable. Nowever, in looking at that neighborhood, on the Fridley side, the Energy Commission felt yield signs are predominant and are consistent in the neighborhood. He stated 45th Ave. is approx. 3-4 blocks long. He stated the Energy Commission is definitely opposed to a 4-way stop, Mr, Saba stated that at their Oct. 26th meeting, the Energy Commission discussed this again because they had received some new information from the Columbia Heights Traffic Control Commission. The Columbia Heights Traffic Control Commission had recomnended that there was a tree obstruction that shou7d be removed. He stated the Energy Commission had made another motion at the Oct, 26th meeting recommending to the City Council that the obstruction be removed through trimming of the tree and that the City of Columbia Heights be asked to replace their stop sign with a yield si�n to be consistent with the neighborhood. He stated stop signs are not used anywhere e1se along 45th Ave. until you get down to Main St, Ms. van Dan stated she had parked near this intersection during a busy traffic time to observe the traffic. She stated she found it very interesting that of the people coming from ihe north on 22 St. to the yield sign, most of the people stopped and looked for traffic, while the people coming from the south on 22 St. to the stop sign went through the stop sign. Mr. Saba stated that in the study, "Energy Conservation to Improve Traffic Measures, it points out that stop signs give a false sense of security because people assume everyone will stop. He stated he thought for the City Council to take out the yield sign and put up a stop sign in response to the petition from the neighborhood would serve no use whatsoever and may cause more of a hazard than there is now. PLANNING COMMI55ION MEETING, OCTOBER 27, 1982 PAGE 6 MOTION BY MR, SABA� SECONDED BY MS, VAN DAN� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCZL THAT THE OBSTRUCTION RT THE INTERSECTION OF 452X AVE, & 2 I/2_.ST. &fi�REMOVEii�Q'HRWGH APPROPRIATE TRIMMING, THAT THE REQUEST FOR A STOP SIGN(S) IN PLACE OF THE EXZSTING YTELD SIGN AT THIS INTERSECTION BE DENIED, AND TO RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY OF COLUMBIA HEIGHTS BE ASKED TO REPLACE THEIR STOP SIGN WITH A YSELD SIGN TO�BE CONSISTENT WITH THE TRAFFIC CQNTRQL IN THAT NEIGHSORHOOD. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMRN SCHNABEL DECLARED 2'HE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Mr.. Saba stated the Energy Commission has decided to go forward in response to their educational goal and are going to try to get more educational programming through video tapes and slide shows on cable TV. He stated that, as a beginning, they are going to have a demonstration on "Energy Saving Window Treatments" by Ms. Lynn Ihrke, County Extension Agent, Home Economics/Family Living, U. of M., at their Nov. 23rd Energy Commission meeting. He stated they plan to video tape this demonstration for showing on cable TV. He stated the public wi17 be invited, and he would like to extend an invitation to the Planning Commission members to attend. 7. RECEIVE OCTOBER 7, 1982, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY MS, VAN PAN� SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST� TO RECEIVE THE OCTOBER 7� 1982� HUMAN�RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTE5. Ms, van Dan stated both the International Year of Disabled Persons Project Comnittee, which canducted a handicapped survey and is preparing a report, and the Accessibil4ty Project Corr�nittee, which surveyed the business comnunity for accessibility and is in the process of compiling an accessibility guideb,00k, have been tremendous committees, a�d every member of those committees should be commended for a great job, along with Mary Cayan, Staff person, and Scott Wheeler, Planning Intern. She stated both committees have spent a tremendous amount of time compiling data and getting volunteers. Ms, van Dan stated the National Office on Disability has a$25,000 Awards Compe- tition in observance of the completion of the 1982 National Year of Disabled Persons, and the Human Resources Commission will be pursuing the awards compe- tition for both the Accessibility Project Committee and the IYDP Project Committee, Ms. Schnabel stated the accessibility guidebook was a tremendous project to take on. She stated the Human Resources Canmission should be commended for pur- suing it and the project corr¢nittee should be corranended for their work on it. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRSED UNANIMOUSLY. Ms. van Dan stated that on page 4, the Human Resources Commission made a motion recomnending to City Council the establishment of a No-Fault Grievance Procedure committee. She stated this, too, would be a totally vo7unteer canmittee that would operate essentially independently of the Human Resources Commission and city government. However, the City does have to give its approva1, even though PLANNING COMMISSION MEETI�G, OCTOBER 27 1982 PAGE 7 the City would not be involved. She stated three of the Commission members have attended the training sessions, and there are a number of refresher courses and training sessions set up between now and January so anyone interested could attend. She thought it would provide a tremendous service to the people of Fridley. Mr, Boardman stated that after the City establishes the committee, al] that would be needed from the City are some initial mailing costs and the cost for the City Attorney to review the waiver document that both parties would have to sign. Mr. Oquist asked why the City of Fridiey would even want to have a No-Fault Grievance Procedure committee. Ms. Schnabe] stated she felt the key point was that this committee would be an arm of the State Department of Human Rights and really had nothing to do with the City of Fridley,other than the City giving its approval for the committee to operate in the City as recommended by the Human Resources Commission. Ms. van Dan stated she would like the Planning Comnission to recommend to the City Council that those interested in becoming involved in this process be granted the opportunity to do so. MOTION BY MS. VAN DAN� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO CONCUR WSTH SHE HUMAN RESO�RCES COMMISSION AND TO RECOMMEND TO THE CZTY COUNCIL THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A NO-FAULT GRIEVANCE PROCEDURE COMMITTEE TO BE COMPOSED OF INTERESTED AND TRAINED CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY; THE COMMITTEE WOULD OPERATE E5SENTIALLY INDEPENDENTLY OF THE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMIS5ION OR ANY OTXER AGENCY OF THE CITY OF FRIDLEY. i7PON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTSNG AYE� CHAIRWOM�1lJ SCHNABEL DECL7�RED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Ms. Schnabel expressed the Planning Commission's thanks to Ms. van Dan and the other Human Resources Commission members for their willingness to participate in the No-Fault Grievance Procedure comnittee. 8. RECEIVE OCTOBER 12 1982, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY MR, SABA, TO RECEIVE THE OCTOBER Z2� 1982� APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Ms. Gabel stated she felt the first variance request by Gorden Aspenson of Lampert Lumber to tncrease the square footage for a free standing sign from 144 sq, ft. to 176 sq. ft, to allow a 4 ft, x 8 ft. lighted sign, was out of line. The motion to approve this variance request failed at the Appeals Commission meeting by a vote of 2 for and 3 against. She stated Lampert Lumber is 6latantly ignoring city ordinances, and she thought it was time to put a stop to it. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 27� 1982 PAGE 8 MOTION BY MS, GRBEL� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL THE DENIAL OF THE REQUEST BP LAMPERT LUMBER�TQ INCRERSE THE SQU�RE FOOTAGE FOR A FRE'E STANDING SZGN FROM I44 SQ, FT, TO 176�SQ. FT.� TO ALLOW A 4 FT. BY 8 FT. LIGHTED SIGN ON PARCEL 3600� SECTION I2� SHE SAME BEING 7600 HIGHWAY #65, ,T�'RIDLEY� MN. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMRN SCHNASEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARIZIED UNANIMOUSLY. 9. RECEIVE OCTOBER 13, 1982, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY MR. NIELSON� SECONDED BY MR. 5ABA� TO RECEIVE THE OCT. S3� I982� ENVIRONMENTRL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTE5. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNAHEL DECLFiRED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 10. OTHER BUSINESS: Since there were no items for the Nov. 3rd Planning Wommission meeting, the Comnissioners agreed to cancel it. The next meeting is Nov, 17. ADJOURNMENT: MOTION bY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MS, GABEL� TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. UPQN A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHA7RWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE OCTOSER 27� 1982� PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING 11A70URNED AT Z0:25 P.M, Respectfully subm' ted, C ynne a a Recording Secretary