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PL 10/27/1982 - 30584n � CITY OF FRIDLEY PLI4NNING COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 27, 1982 '� CALL TO ORDER: Chairwoman Schnabel called the October 27, 1982, Planning Commission meeting to order at 7:35 p.m. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Oquist, Ms. Gabel, Mr. Nielson (for Mr. Svanda), Ms, van Dan, Mr. Saba Members Absent: Mr. Kondrick Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner Richard N. Carlson, 3509 Maplewood Dr., 55418 APPROVAL OF SEPTEMBER 29, 1982, PLANNING C4MMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY MR. OQUIST� SECONDED BY MR. SA9A� TO APPRD[�E TNE SEPTEMBER 29� 1982, PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN. UPO1V A VOICE YOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCXAABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Ms. Schnabel stated that at the Sept. 29, 1982, Planning Commission meeting, the Commission members had received a copy of a letter from Nancy Hendrickson, President of the Fridley Chamber of Corr�nnerce, in which Ms. Hendrickson was requesting the City Council to consider carefully the importance of losing Cub Foods from the City of Fridley. Ms. Gabel had stated that Ms. Schaaf, a member of the Chamber's Board of Directors, had said the letter was not written with the agreement of the Board of Directors and that the letter was not repre- sentative of the entire Chamber of Comnerce. Ms. Schnabel stated she had received another letter from Ms. Hendrickson in response to the position taken by Ms. Schaaf. Ms. Hendrickson stated that of the 11 Chamber of Comnerce Board of Directors, 10 were in agreement to send a letter to the City supporting the re�oning. Ms. Hendrickson stated Ms. Schaaf could not be reached for her vote. When 10 voted in favor of the letter support- ing the rezoning, Ms. Hendrickson stated they felt that was a majority of the Board of Directors and. therefore, represented the majority of the membership. 1. PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PEWMIT, SP #82-10, BY VIKING CHEVROLET: er ection . ,,, o a ow e storage o new ve c es on adjacent property,�Strite-Anderson, described as Parcel 2700 in the north one-half of Section 12, the same being 7585 Viron Road N.E. (Viking Chevrolet, ^ 7501 Viron Road N.E.) There were no representatives from Iliking Chevrolet at the meeting. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING,'OCTOBER 27, 1982 PAGE 2 �OTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO CONTINUE SP #82-10� BY VIKING CHEVROLET UNTIL THE NEX'l MEETING� AND TO ASIC STAFF TO NOTIFY VIKING CNEVROLET TIiAT REPRESENTATIVES SHOULD BE PRESENT AT TNAT MEETING. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE'� CHAIRWOMAN SCANABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 2. VACATION REQUEST: SAV #82-03, PARK CONSTRUCTION RICHARD N. C R SON �lacate o�ng—�eTTow Street'6e oc 5, and etween Lots 24-27, Block 4, Spring alley in Block 4, Spring Brook Park,between Lots all East of Burlington Northern railroad tracks, yard at 7900 Beech Street N.E. COMPANY BY tween ots 8-23 in Brook Park, and vacate 22 and 23, and Lots 24-27, to be part of equipment Mr. Boardman stated the request was for the vacation of the street located along the railroad tracks behind Park Construction's main facility. He stated there is a 35' sanitary sewer easement and a Minnegasco easement across that street. He stated the City would request that those two easements be retained and to request a 30 ft. drainage/utility and access easement on the westerly 30 ft. �, Mr. Boardman stated it was the City's concern that at some point in time, the City may be looking at trying to divert some of the flow from Stoneybrook and Spring Brook and the Nature Center. It may be an alternative to go along the '� railroad line so they may need 30 ft. of right-of-way to do a piping system to divert some of the flow. Mr. Boardman stated another concern was access to �he back lots. Park Construc- tion owns most of the property to the north and south, but some of the property in between is not owned by Park Construction, so the City would like to retain some access easement into the back area. Mr. Carlson stated he did knot know how many easements were needed. because there are already three easements across that property. He stated North Suburban Sanitary Sewer District has an easement, NSP has an easement, and he had not been aware that Minnegasco also had an easement. Why does the City of Fridley need another easement? Mr. Boardman stated the City is not asking for an additional easement; their easement would go over the top of the present easements. Mr. Carlson stated the property is unbuildable and unusable at this time. All they want to use the property for is storage. He stated he owns and pays taxes on that property, and he would be opposed to the City of Frid]ey taking away property that would make that property unusable. He stated he would not be opposed to an underground drainage system� but he was opposed to an open ditch. With an underground drainage system, the property would still be usable. He stated he was not opposed to the access easement. Mr. Boardman stated that if it was possible for the City to go underground with a drainage system, then he would not be opposed to that alternative. , Mr. Carison stated he also plans to put up the proper screening and plantings �"� �1 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 27, 1982 - PAGE 3 ---- MOTION 8Y MR. SABA, SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST, TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF VACATION REQUEST� SAV #82-03� PARK CONSTRUCTION COMPANY� BY RICHARD N. CARLSON, TO VACATE LONGFELLOW.STREET BETWEEN LOTS 18-23 IN-BLOCK 5, AND BETWEEN LOTS 24-27� BLOQC 4� SPRING BROOK PARK� AND VACATE ALLEY IN BLOCK 4, SPRING BROOK PARK� BETWEEN LO'lS 22 AND 23� AND LOTS 24-27� ALL EAST OF BURLING- TON NORTXERN RAILROAD TRACKS� TO BE PART OF EQUIPMENT YARD AT 7900 BEECA STREET N.E., WIZ'H THE FOLIAWING STIPULATIONS: 1. TNE CITY RETAIN AN ACCESS EASEMENT TO TEE BACK LOTS 2. ANY DRAINAGE EASEMENT BE RESTRICTED TO UNDERGROUND PIPING UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Mr. Boardman stated this item would go to the City Council on Dec. 6. 3. RECEIVE SEPTEMBER 16, 1982, HOl1SING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES: MOTION BY MS. VAN DAN� SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST� TO RECEIVE THE SEPT. 16� 1982� HOUSING � REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CNAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 4. RECEIVE SEPTEMBER 21,1982, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY MR. NIELSON� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO RECEIVE THE SEPT. 21� 1982, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES. Ms. Schnabel stated that regarding the hazardous waste processing facility sites, there was going to be a public information meeting on Wed., Nov. 17, at 7:00 p.m. in the Blaine Sr. High cafeteria. She stated the Environmental Quality Corrrnission members might be interested in attending that meeting. Mr. Boardman stated the City Council was going to have someone from the Metro- politan Waste Control speak at City Hall on Nov. 1�. There would also be some- one to talk about hazardous waste. He stated it sounded 7ike it would be an interesting meeting. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CEAIRWOMAN SCNNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION �CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 5. RECEIVE SEPTEMBER 27, 1982, PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION_MINUTES: MOTION BY A9R. S�BA, SECOIVDED BY MS. VAN DAN� TO RECEIVE THE SEPT. 27� I982� PARKS � RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SQiNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION � CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 27, 1982 PAGE 4 �'� Ms. Schnabel stated that on page 7 of the Parks & Recreation Commission minutes, the Parks & Recreation Commission had made a motion recomnending that� "for both the Northeast Chamber and the Fridley City Band, the City continue to underwrite the cost of the music and supplies, but only to underwrite 1/4 of the directors' salaries--3 months into the coming year which would allow them time to prepare for the phase-out of the directors' salaries". Ms. Gabel stated she was appalled that the members of the Northeast Chamber contribute only $94.50 to their group. She thought that was totally out of line. Ms. Schnabel stated that in the Oct. 7, 1982, Human Resources Commission minutes, it was mentioned that because of the cuts in funding, volunteerism is going to be needed to pick up the void from these budget cuts. She felt both the Northeast Chamber and the Fridley City Band should be taking a harder look at trying to help support themselves financially, as well as through volunteers. Ms, van Dan stated she couldn't get over the amount of funding these groups are requesting. Mr. Saba stated there are many groups in the community that do a lot for the comnunity and yet are self-supporting. He was referring to such organizations as the 4-H groups and the Scout groups. He stated it really bothered him that with the City under a tight budget, the Northeast Chamber and the City Band ^ still expect the City to provide funding. Ms. Gabel stated she felt the amount requested was totally unjustified. She stated that if each of the 40 members would contribute $40 per year, they would have enough money to pay their own director and be self- supporting. She stated she felt both groups were very worthwhile and did contri- bute something to the community, but she also felt they should be in the position of being self-supporting. Mr. Oquist stated another question is whether these groups are sanctioned by the City of Fridley or are they just volunteer groups? Ne stated he did not think the City had ever really chartered the band as an official city band, but that it was a volunteer group that get together because they enjoy it. Ms. Gabel stated the City did not fund a lot of worthwhile organizations that get down to the basics, and she•did not feel the City should fund the Northeast Chamber Ensemble or the Fridley City Band. MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY MI2. OQUIST� THAT THE PLANNIIVG COMMISSION RECOG- NIZES THE VALUE OF THE ARTSi HOWEVER� DUE TO BUDGET CUTBACKS� THE PLANNING COMMISSIDN FEELS THE NORTHEAST CHAMBER ENSEMBLE AND THE FRIDLEY CITY BAND SHOULD ESTABLISB DUES AND BECOME SELF-SUSTAINING. THE P7�ANNING COMMISSION FEELS TXE AMOUNT RE(?UESTED ($1�700 FROM THE NORTHEAST CHAMBER ENSEMBLE AND $2�000 FROM THE FRZDLEY CITY BAND) WAS OUT OF LINE WITH RESPECT TO THE NUMBER OF FRIDLEY RESIDENTS Wf10 PARTICIPATE� T9E NUMBER OF FRIDLEY RESIDENTS SERVED� AND THE RATIO � OF ADMINISTRATIVE CO$TS. (DIREG'TORS' SALARIES) TO TBE ACTUAL SERVICES PROVIDED (NUMBER OF CONCEBTS)i THFREFORE� THE PLANNING COMMISSZON RECOMMENDS TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT TBE REpUESTS FOR FUNDIRIG FROM THE NORTHEAST CXAMBER ENSEMBLE AND THE FRIDLEY CITY BAND BE DENIED. ,-_� PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 27� 1982 PAGE 5 UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRWOMAN SCbfNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 6. RECEIVE SEPTEMBER 28, 1982, ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES: � MOTION BY l►QZ. SABA, SECONDED BY Al.S. VAN DAN, TO RECENE THE SEPTEMBER 28, 1982, ENERGY OOMMISSION MINUS'ES. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNAAIIMDUSLY. Ms. Schnabel stated that regarding the request for stop signs at 45th Ave. & 2z St., the Energy Comnission had made a motion on page 7 to recommend to City Council that the request for stop signs be denied. Mr. Saba stated that as far as the Energy Co�nission could determine, there has only been one accident at this intersection, and because of that accident, it has created concern in the neighborhood which is understandable. However, in looking at that neighborhood, on the Fridley side, the Energy Comnission felt yield signs are predominant and are consistent in the neighborhood. He stated 45th Ave, is approx. 3-4 blocks long. He stated the Energy Comnission is definitely opposed to a 4-way stop. � Mr. Saba stated that at their Oct. 26th meeting, the Energy Corrmission discussed this again because they had received some new information from the Columbia Heights Traffic Control Corrm�ssion. The Columbia Heights Traffic Control Commission had recomnended that there was a tree obstruction that shou7d be removed. He stated the Energy Commission had made another motion at the Oct. 26th meeting recorrenending to the City Council that the obstruction be removed through trimming of the tree and that the City of Columbia Heights be asked to replace their stop sign with a yield sign to be consistent with the neighborhood. He stated stop signs are not used anywhere else along 45th Ave. until you get down to Main St. Ms. van Dan stated she had parked near.this intersection during a busy traffic time to observe the traffic. She stated she found it very interesting that of the people coming from the north on 22 St. to the yield sign, most of the people stopped and looked for traffic, while the people coming from the south on 2z St. to the stop sign went through the stop sign. Mr. Saba stated that in the study, "Energy Conservation to Improve Traffic Measures, it points out that stop signs give a false sense of security because people assume everyone will stop. He stated he thought for the City Council to take out the yi�ld sign arrd pu� up a stop sign in response to the petition from the neighborhood would ser�e no use whatsoever and may cause more of a hazard than there is now. � PLANNING COt�Od1ISSI0N MEETING, OCTOBER 27, 1982 PAGE 6 MOTION BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MS. VAN DAN� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL THAT TtlE OBSTRUCTION AT THE INTERSEGTION OF 45TX AVE. & 2 Z/2 . SP. BE' REMOVED TNROiTGH APPROPRIATE TRIMMING, THAT T8E RE,QUEST FOR A S1'OP SIGN(S) IN PLACE OF THE EXZSTING YIELD SIGN AT THIS INTERSECTION BE DENIED, AND TO RECOMMEND THAT TNE CITY OF COLUMBIA iIEIGHTS BE ASKED TD REALACE TXEIR STOP SIGN WITX A YIELD SIGN 1�0 BE CONSISTENT WITN TXE TRAFFIC CONTROL IN TflAT NEIGFIBDRHOOD. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TXE MOTION CARRIED iAVANIMDUSLY. Mr.. Saba stated the Energy Commission has decided to go forward in response to their educational goal and are going to try to get more educational programming through video tapes and slide shows on cable TV. He stated that, as a beginning, they are going to have a demonstration on "Energy Saving Window Treatments" by Ms. Lynn Ihrke, County Extension Agent, Hame Economics/Family Living, U, of M., at their Nov. 23rd Energy Correnission meeting. He stated they plan to video tape this demonstration for showing on cable TV. He stated the public wi17 be invited, and he would like to extend an invitation to the Planning Corranission mer�bers to attend. 1. RECEIVE_0_CTOBER 7, 1982, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY MS. VAN DAN� SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST� TO RECENE THE OCTOBER 7� 1982� /'1� HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES. Ms. van Dan stated both the International Year of Disabled Persons Project Comnittee, which conducted a handicapped survey and is preparing a report, and the Accessibility Project Corrmittee, which surveyed the business comnunity for accessibility and is in the process of campiling an accessibility guidebook, have been tremendous committees, ahd every member of those committees should be commended for a great job, along with Mary Cayan, Staff person, and Scott Wheeler, Planning Intern. She stated both committees have spent a tremendous amount of time compiling data and getting volunteers. Ms, van Dan stated the National Office on Disability has a$25,000 Awards Compe- tition in observance of the completion of the ]982 National Year of Disabled Persons, and the Human Resources Commission will be pursuing the awards compe- tition for both the Accessibility Project Comnittee and the IYDP Project Committee. Ms. Schnabel stated the accessibility guidebook was a tremendous project to take on. She stated the Human Resources Commission should be commended for pur- suing it and the project cor�nittee shou]d be commended for their work on it. UPON A VOICE V�1'E, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED i11VANIMOUSLY. Ms. van Dan stated that on page 4. the Human Resources Commission made a motion recomnending to City Council the establishment of a No-Fault Grievance Procedure ^ conmittee. She stated this, too, would be a total]y volunteer cor�nittee that would operate essentially independently of the Human Resources Commission and city government. However, the City does have to give its approval, even though � ,� � PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER�27, 1982 PAGE 7 the City would not be involved. She stated three of the Comnission members have attended the training sessions, and there are a number of refresher courses and training sessions set up between now and January so anyone interested could attend. She thought it would provide a tremendous service to the peopl.e of Fridley. . Mr. Boardman stated that after the City establishes the committee, al] that would be needed fram the City are some initial mai]ing costs and the cost for the City Attorney to review the waiver document that both parties would have to sign. Mr. Oquist asked why the City of Fridley would even want to have a No-Fau7t Grievance Procedure committee. Ms. Schnabel stated she felt the key point was that this committee wou]d be an arm of the State Department of Human Rights and really had nothing to do with the City of Fridley,other than the City giving its approva] for the committee to operate in the City as recorr�nended by the Human Resources Commission. Ms, van Dan stated she would like the Planning Comnission to recomnend to the City Council that those interested in becoming involved in this process be granted the opportunity to do so. MOTION BY MS. VAN DAN, SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO CONCUR WITN THE XUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION AND TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A NO-FAULT GRIEVANCE PROCEDURE COMMITTEE TO BE COMPOSED OF IN7'ERESTED AND TRAINED CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITYt TXE COMMITTEE WWLD OPERATE ESSENTIALLY INDEPENDENTLY OF THE XUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSIOAI OR ANY OTHER AGENCY OF TNE CITY OF FRIDLEY. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CNAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Ms. Schnabel expressed the Planning Commission's thanks to Ms. van Dan and the other Human Resources Commission members for their willingness to participate in the No-Fault Grievance Procedure cortmittee. 8. RECEIVE OCTOBER 12, 1982, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO RECEIVE THE OCTOBER 12� 1982� APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CfIAIRW011AN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Ms. Gabel stated she felt the first variance request by Gorden Aspenson of Lampert Lumber to increase the square footage for a free standing sign from 144 sq. ft. to 176 sq. ft. to allow a 4 ft, x 8 ft. lighted sign. was out of line. The motion to approve this variance request failed at the Appea]s Commission meeting by a vote of 2 for and 3 against. She stated Lampert Lumber is blatantly ignoring city ordinances, and she thought it was time to put a stop to it. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 27, ]982 PAGE 8 MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY A�2. SABA, TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL THE DENIAL OF TBE RE�jUEST BY LAMPERT LUMBER TO INCREASE TXE SpUARE FOOTAGE FOR A FREE STANDING SIGN FROM .I44 SQ. FT. TO Z76 SQ. FT., TO ALI�OW A 4 FT. BY 8 FT. LIGHTED SIGN ON PARCEL 3600� SECTIDN Z2, THE SAME BEING 7600 XIGAWAY �j65� FRIDLEY, MN. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECI�ARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 9. RECEIVE OCTOBER 13, 1982, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES• MOTION BY MR. NIELSON� SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO RECEIVE THE OCT. Z3� 1982� ENVIRONMEIVTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CNAIRW0INAN SCNNABEL DECLARED TXE 1NOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 10. OTHER BUSINESS: Since there were no items for the Nov. 3rd Planning Comnission meeting, the Comnissioners agreed to cancel it. The next meeting is Nov. ]7. ADJOURNMENT: MOTION BY MR. SABA, SECONDED BY MS. GABEL, TO ADJOURN TXE l�ETING. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CNAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLA.RED TAE OCTOBER 27� 1982, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 10:25 P.M. Respectfully subm' ted, � ynne a a Recording Secretary /"� � �,