PL 03/16/1983 - 6811City of Fridley
A G E N D A
PIANNING COMMTSSION MEETING WEDNESDAY, MARCH 16, 1983
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: FEBRUARY 9, 1983
1. PUBLIC HEARIN6: RE UEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #83-01,
BY ROGER H. MENGELKOCH: Per Section 205.101, 3, 0, of the
Fridley City Code, to allow an old depot and Pullman railroad
car to be placed On Lot 18, Auditor's Subdivision No. 77, to
be used for a commercial business, the same being 7355 East
River Road N.E. (Subject to Council approval of L.S. �82-05,
Kunz Oil Company).
2. RECEIVE HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES: JANUARY
3. RECEIVE COMMUNITY
4. RECEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: FEBRUARY 15, 1983
A. Need recommendation to Council on Item #1
5. RECEIVE ENVIRONMENTAL_QU_ALITY COMMISSION MINUTES: FEBI
7:30 P.M.
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6. RECEIVE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES: FEBRUARY 16, 1983 SALMON
7. RECEIVE HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES: FEBRUARY 17, WHITE
8. RECEIVE MINUTES FROM COMMUNITY DEUELOPMENT SFECIAL MEETIN
MARCH 1, 1983
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9. REVIEW COhT1UNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION 1983 WORKPLAN
10. RECEIUE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES: MARCH 3,_ 198_3_
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11. REUIEW HUMAN RESOURCE COMMISSION 1983 WaRKPLAN
12. OTHER BUSINESS:
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CITY OF fRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 9, 1983
CALL TO ORdER:
Chairwoman Schnabel called the February 9, 1983, Planning Commission meeting to
order at 7:36 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Oquist, Ms. Gabel, Mr. Saba
Members Absent: Mr. 5vanda, Mr. Kondrick, Mr. Goodspeed
Others Present: Bill Deblon, Associate Planner
Jerrold Boar�nan, City Planner
Dennis Schneider, Councilman
APPROVAL OF DECEMBER 22 1982 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTIDN BY MR. SRBA� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO APPROVE TXE DEC. 22� Z982� PLANNING
COMMZSSION MINUTES WITX THE FOLZAWING CORRECTION:
PAGE 6� PARAGRRPH 3� Sth LINE: CHANGE "STORE" TO"STORY"
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG RYE, CHAZRWONAN SCHNAHEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. RECEIVE DECEMBER 9, 1982 HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTNORITY MINUTES:
MOTION 8Y MR. OQUISY`� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO RECEIVE THE DEC. 9� 2982� HOUSING
6 REDEVELOPMENT RUTHORITY MINUSES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2. RECEIUE JANURRY 6, 1
MOTION BY MR. OQUIST� SECONDED BY MR. SABR� TO RECEIVE TXE JAN, 6� 1983�
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION/HUM1iN RESOURCES COMMISSION JOTNT MEETING MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNRBEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRZED UNRNZMOUSLY.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, fEBRUARY 9, 1983 PAGE 2
3. RECEIVE Jn�UARY 10 1983, SPECIAL PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING
MTWIITCC•
NOTION BY MR. SRBA, SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST, TO RECEIVE THE JAN. 10� 1983, SPECIAL
PARKS 6 RECRERTION COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNRBEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
4. RECEIVE JANUARY 18, 1983, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY MR, OQUIST� TO RECENE TNE JRN. 18, 1983, APPERLS
COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CXAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TNE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
5. RECEIVE JANUARY 24 1983, PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY MR. SRBA� TO RECENE THE JRNUARY 24� 2983� PARKS 6
RECREATION COMMISSFON MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLFiRED THE MOTION
CRRRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Schnabel stated that on page 4, the Parks & Recreation Commission had made a
motion to recommend to City Council that the 1983 Diseased Tree Program be repealed,
but to continue to provide a tree inspector who would be on call for inspections
and to have a public relations program to encourage voluntary participation in the
removal of diseased trees and the replanting of those trees.
Mr. Deblon stated this item was on the Feb. 7 City Council agenda but was tabled
in order to get Planning Commission input.
Ms. Schnabel stated she has heard some criticism that the city tree inspector is
not well enough educated in this field. A lot of mistakes have been made and non-
diseased trees have been cut down. She felt they should be very careful that the
person in charge of this program has a lot of education and training in forestry.
Maybe there is someone who would be available on an as-needed basis who is fully
educated. She was not so sure that person should be from the Parks & Recreation
Department. She would like to see some money hudgeted for hiring someone outside
city staff to do the inspecting when calls or complaints are registered at City Hall.
Mr. Saba stated he agreed with Dick Young's philosophy in that he would rather see
the money spent in some other areas such as reforestation. Mr. Saba stated that
would probably benefit the City more than in hiring someone to inspect the old trees.
New trees can be planted that are resistent to disease. He also felt the City really
needed more trees, especially along the parkways.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 9 1983 PAGE 3
Mr. Oquist agreed. He stated that when leaves are dying and falling off a tree in
the summertime, the homeowner could almost do his own inspection and have the tree
taken down. It did not really seem necessary to have someone come out to just
reaffirm that the tree is dying,
MOTION BY MR. SABR� SECONDED BY AII2. OQUIST� TO CONCUR WITH TXE PARKS & RECREATION
COMMZSSION AND TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL THAT THE Z983 DISEASED TREE PROGRAM BE
REPEALED� BUT TO CONTINUE TQ PROVZDE A TREE INSPECTOR WHO WOULD BE ON CALL FOR
INSPECTIONS AND TO HAVE R PUBLIC RELATIONS PROGRAM TO ENCOURAGE VOLUNTARY PARTZCI-
PRTION IN TXE REMOVAL OF DISEASED TREES RND THE REPLANTING OF THOSE TREES,
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE, CXAIRWOMAN SCXNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANZMOUSLY.
6. RECEIVE JAhUARY 25, 1983, ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MS. 6ABEL� TO RECEIVE THE JRN. 25� 1983� ENERGX
COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXRIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNRNIMDUSLY.
7. RECEIVE P1IP�UTES OF A SPECIAL JOINT MEETING Of THE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION/
iitiTTV n� ri o rti rn TCfT/1AI 1 0.
MOTION BY MR. OQUIST� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF A SPECIRL
JOINT MEETZNG OF TXE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSIDN/COMMfINITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSZON
ON JAN. 27� 1983.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOSING AYE� CHAZRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED SHE MOTION CRRRIED
UNANIMOOSLY.
Mr. Oquist stated that at this meeting, the Human Resources Cortmission and the
Community Development Commission made three motions recommending projects to the
City Council for CDBG funds. They had recortmended that $10,000 from the remaining
1982 CDBG funds ($111,322) be allocated to The Alexandra House, $30,000 be allo-
cated to Acquisition/Relocation Center City Project, and $71,322 be allocated to
Rehab-Handicap Retrofit Weatherization. They had also made a motion recomnending
eight projects for 1983 CDBG funds.
MOTION BY MR. OQUIST� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO CONCUR WITH THE XUMAN RESOURCES
COMMISSION/COMMUNZTY DEVEZOPMENT COMMISSION AND RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL THRT
$20�000 OUT OF THE 2982 CDBG FUNDS BE ALLOCATED TO THE ALEXANDRA HOUSE.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CNAIRWOMAN SCXNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Gabel asked how they justify CDBG monies going into the Center City Project.
Mr. Deblon stated it was being used to remove blight and blighted conditions which
was one of the criteria HU� requires for CDBG funding,
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 9, 1983 PAGE 4
Ms. Schnabel stated it was her understanding that the HRA was a total entity in
the City; it funds itself, and she felt if the HRA cannot afford to do its own
acquisition, then the HRA should not be doing it.
Mr. Saba stated he had the same question, and maybe some of these projects shouldn't
be done.
Mr. Oquist stated this conversation was really irrelevant as he had just found out
at this meeting that the City Council had already taken an action on the $30,000
at their last meeting.
Ms. Gahel stated that did not preclude the Planning Commission from making comments
on what they think about this. She stated she was very perturbed when these oppor-
tunities are presented to them after the fact. What is the Planning Commission
doing here anyway? It is ridiculous for the Planning Commission to 9et this informa-
tion and sit here wasting their time when this has already gone to the City Council
and the City Council has already approved it.
Ms. Schnabel stated that in reading the Jan. 27th Human Resources Commission/
Community Development Corranission minutes, she wondered what the criteria was for
CDBG funding. She wanted to know why that allocation was made to the Center City
Project, because she truthfully felt that was an HRA project and that the HRA
should be generating funds solely on their own and HUD monies should not be used
for that when they can be used for another project that has no funding at all.
She was even more upset after reading that the City Council had already acted on
this allocation at their Jan. 24th meeting, Why did the Community Development
Commission and the Human Resources Cortmission go through the exercise of recommend-
ing when the City Council had already passed a resolution and acted upon it?
Ms. Gabel stated she thought saneone from the City Council should respond to the
Planning Commission on why this had taken place.
Ms. 5chnabel stated this is not the first time this type of thing has happened.
It has happened, not only to the Planning Commission, but to other corrmissions.
MOTION BY MR. SRBA� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� THRT BECRUSE TXE PLANNING COMMISSION
MEMBERS DGl NOT UNDERSTAND TXE REASONS BEHIND ALLOCATING $30�000 OF THE 2982 CDBG
FUNDS FOR PRATECT 1�ACQUZSITION/RELOCATION IN THE CENTER CITY PROJECT� TXE PLANNING
COMMISSION DOES NOT CONCUR WITH THZS RECOMMENDATION MADE BY SHE HUMAN RESOURCES
COMMISSION AND COMMUNZTY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSZON ON JRN. 27� I983.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHRZRWOMRN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO CONCUR WITH TXE RECOMMENDATZON BY
THE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSIOlJ/COMMUNITY DEVEIAPMENT COMMISSION TO ALLOCATE
571�322 TO PROJECT 2� REHABILZTATION-HANDICAP RETROFIT WEATHERI2RTION.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLRRED TXE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
PLANNIN6 COMMISSIDN MEE7IN6, FEBRUARY 9, 1983 PAGE 5
Mr. Schneider and Mr. Boardman arrived at the meeting.
Mr. Oquist asked Mr. Boardman to state the criteria for CD66 funding.
Mr. 8oardman stated there are three criteria: (lj must benefit low and moderate
income persons (50%); (2) removal of slum and blight; (3) emergency funding.
Ms. Schnabel stated the Planning Comnission had made a motion stating they did
not concur with the use of CDBG monies for acquisition(relocation in the Center
City Project. She stated the Planning Cortmission was unhappy when they discovered
at this meeting that the City Council had taken an action on the $30,000 before
the joint Human Resources Commission/Cormwnity Development Corrmission meeting on
Jan. 27, and those co�nissioners were not notified of that action.
Mr. Boardman stated the cortmissioners were notified of the City Council action
at that meeting. There was $111,322 left from CDBG funds. In a discussion with
the Cortmunity Oevelopment Conmission in Oecember, he had told the Commission that
money could be allocated by the City Council for another project. They had talked
about whether the Comnunity Development Comnission would have a chance to voice an
opinion on the 1982 monies. Mr. Boardman stated that at that time, he had said he
wasn't sure if the City Council would do that or not and that the City Council
could allocate that money since it has to be allocated and spent by the end of
June.
Mr. Doardman stated that at the Jan. 6, 1983, joint Human Resources Commission/
Cor�Ynunity Development Cottmission meeting, he had brought up the point that there
was $30,000 that was going to be allocated by the City Council to the HRA, and
that was a discussion between the City Council and the HRA. The HRA had requested
assistance from the City Council for the Center City plaza area (modification to
the Firemen's parking lot and some items within the plaza such as signage).
Mr. Oquist stated the commissions did discuss the possibility of the $30,000 being
used in the Center City Project, but wfiat Ms. Schnabel was saying was that at the
Jan. 27th meeting, this money had already been allocated by the City Council.
Mr. Boardman stated he had told the comnissioners that the $30,000 had already
been allocated and that was why he put that in as an item to show the monies had
been allocated. He had told the commissioners there was $81,000 left (out of the
$111,000) and did the commissioners want to have a voice in that allocation. The
commissioners had responded that they did want a voice in that allocation.
Mr. Boardman stated the
cation of 1983 monies.
City Council.
thing the cortmissions were really working on was the allo-
The allocation of 1983 CDBG monies has not been to the
Ms. Schnabel stated the over-riding philosophical question that has triggered this
concern is that the Planning Commission does not know why the City Council is
spending CDBG monies on an HRA project. Why doesn't the HRA generate the money
within its own project?
PLANNIN6 COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 9, 1983 PAGE 6
Mr. Boardman stated the HRA and the City made a compromise on the use of those
funds. The HRA had requested some assistance from the City, whether it came from
CDBG funds or directly from the City. It was not a question of whether the HRA
could handle the financial part of it themselves. When the HRA gets involved in
development, it gets involved with either private or public developers. The HRA
is doing the plaza for the City of Fridley. That plaza is being developed on
City of Fridley property. Since the HRA is developing a plaza for the City of
Fridley in the interest of the City of Fridley, the HRA felt maybe there should
be some assistance from the City for some of the items within the project that
are directly related to the City of Fridley. The actual monies the City Council
gave to the HRA was for the Firemen's parking lot and for signage and other items
that relate directly to city activity that will be happening in the plaza.
Mr. Boardman stated the City could have used the CDBG monies for the development
of the plaza; but by putting HUD monies into the plaza, the cost would probabTy
have increased about $40-50,000 by following the Davis Bacon Act. Instead of
doing that, they had an agreement with the City Council that the meney would go
toward the acquisition and relocation in which they would not have to follow the
Davis Bacon Act. It would not increase the cost to the HRA; however, it would
still benefit the HRA, and the HRA would get that benefit in doing the Firemen's
parking lot and the items in the plaza directly related to city activity. They
can use CDBG monies because it fulfil]s the criteria of being used to remove slum
and blight.
Mr. Schneider stated it wasn't a question of whether the HRA was financially able
to do the project. Since the project was benefitting the City as well as the HRA,
the City Council had to decide if it was worth contributing $30,000 from the City.
Mr, Boardman stated that if the City Council had wanted to, they could take the
whole 1982 and 1983 CDBG monies and put them into the Center City Project, because
it is an eligible project.
Mr. Oquist stated that at the Jan. 27th meeting, he did not recall the comnission
members being aware that the $30,000 had already been allocated. If Mr. Boardman
had told them that, then he apologized for that lack of comnunication.
Mr. Saba stated the Planning Corrmission had disagreed with the Community Development
Commission/Human Resources Co�nission's motion on Jan. 27th because of the lack of
understanding about CD66 monies and the canmunication problem. He had expressed
the same concerns as the other Planning Commission members, and would not have made
that motion had he known what he knows now. He would recommend the Plannin
Comnission concur with the Human Resources Canmission/Comnunitv eve onment
for the ac uisition/relocation
o r. oar man s exo anation
Ms. Schnabel stated that regarding the 1983 CDBG projects recortmended by the two
comnissions, she also agreed with the concept of low interest loans.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 9 1983 PAGE 7
MOTION BY MR. OQUIST� SECONDED BY F42. SABA, TO CONCUR WITH THE HUMAN RESOiJRCES
COMMISSION/COMMUNITY DEVEIAPMENT COMMZSSION'S MOTION TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
THE FOLLOWING YR0.7ECTS FOR 2983 CDBG FUNDS (NOT PRIORITZZED):
- TRAFFIC STUDY MODRE LAKE
- DRAINAGE STUDY NORTH AREA
- PUBLZC FRCILITIES BARRIER REMOVAL
- NUMRN 3ERVICES/PUBLIC FUNDING REQUESTS
- SENIOR HOUSING ROLL-OVER STUDY
- LOW SNTEREST IAANS FOR BARRZER REMOVAL - PRIORITIZED GROUPINGS
- LOW INTEREST LOANS FOR COMMERCSAL REHAB - REDEVELOPMENT AREAS
- ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STUDY� PHASE III� CENTER CITY MARKET RNRLYSIS
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMRN SCXNABEL DECLARED THE MOTIOfi CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY,
8. OTHER BUSINE55:
Ms. Schnabel stated that at the Dec. 22 Planning Commission meeting, the Planning
Commission members had felt perhaps something should be done with the way the
conmissions are operating at this time. She stated she did call Mayor Nee and
talked to him about it, she had also discussed this with Mr. Qureshi, the City
Manager, and Mr. Flora, Public Works Director. The information she had received
was that there is a plan to restructure the Planning Commission and its o�erating
procedures. The thinking is to possibly canbine the Energy Commission and the
Environmental Quality Commission. The people who are members of the comnissions
at the present time will be encouraged to stay and continue their terms. Mr. Qureshi
strongly emphasized that at no time would anyone be asked to step aside and that
the City wants input from all those who are interested in continuing, However, as
terms expire, the size of the canmissions may be reduced.
Ms. Schnabel stated there has been no actual decision on what to do about the
Comnunity Development Commission. They are thinking possibly some type of task
force could be established,but the chairperson would still remain on the Planning
Conmission. There is the possibility of creating a non-profit corporation, and
the Community Development Commission could possibly become that group.
Ms. Schnabel stated she had talked to Mr. Flora about the Commuriity Development
Commission's feeling that they are so global in scope and they felt somewhat
reluctant to get into other areas, because they did not want to enfringe upon
other commissions' areas. Mr. Flora thought that was not such a bad feature.
He suggested that, for example, right now perhaps both the Community Development
Commission and the Environmental Quality Commission should be discussing hazardous
waste because of the proposal for such a facility in Fridley. The Cortmunity
Development Cortmission's perspective could be: What happens to the businesses
that might be considering locating in Fridley? If a hazardous waste facility is
located in Fridley, does that diminish Fridley's attractiveness to new business?
The other side would be the community's awareness in terms of receiving feelings
PLANNIN6 COMMISSION MEETING, FEBR�ARY 9 1983 PAGE 8
or information from the cortmunity at large, Right now, there is no vehicle to
receive that type of information. Maybe the Comnunity Development Cortmission
could hold public hearings so the public becomes aware of what is being proposed
and get input from the public. These are all areas in which the Community
Development Comnission could still operate as a v�able commission,
Mr. Oquist stated the concern he had regarding the commission members meeting only
when there is a specific issue or project was that if there is a time lapse
between discussions, he did not see how they could keep the commission members
together and interested.
Mr. Boardman stated if they are going to have a reacting commission, it should be
set u� as a project committee on a project-by-project basis. In other words, they
get people involved who are interested in a certain issue at the time the issues
comes up. With the commissions, they have tried to set up more of a pro-action
cortmission, like the Environmental Quality Commission, Energy Comnission, Human
Resources Commission, and Community Development Commission, where they are generating
ideas, following through on the ideas, and recommending to Planning Commission and
City Council. The Planning Comnission is a reaction commission in the sense that
they react on specific issues. If it is the intent to set up a commission process
to react to projects and issues that come from the Planning Commission and the
City Council, then maybe they should look at the elimination of that commission
and set it up as a project committee to look at specific items.
Mr. Schneider stated he and Mr, Hamernik share the concern that by combining the
Energy and Environmenta] Quality Commissions and eliminating the Community Develop-
ment Commission, that eliminated ten citizens from the Planning Comnission process
and left only five members on the Planning Commission. Mr. Hamernik felt very
strongly that "comnunity development" was an important aspect of the City and
there should be input to the Planning Commission in that area. Mr, Schneider stated
that perhaps there should be some redirection of the commission. One idea he had
was to have some type of coordinating body for vo7unteer functions in the City.
7he idea of a community development corporation was brought up. He stated there
seems to be a need for the City to be more in touch with the business people and
neighboring cortmunities to make them aware of what is happening in the City of
Fridley, He stated there were many ideas expressed at the City Council conference
meeting on Jan. 31, but no decision was made, other than not doing away with
the Comnunity Development Comnission entirely but to change the role, either through
a task force or comnittee or restructuring the comnission.
Mr. Oquist stated that in his discussions with Mr. Hamernik, he agreed that maybe
they don't have to eliminate the comnission, but it definitely has to be redefined.
He felt community development has been downplayed considerably just because it
is so global. He stated he felt the City Council is rea7ly going to have to
do some thinking about this and decide what they really want to see this commission
doing.
Mr. Boardman stated he would caution them about setting up a commission and
then trying to find things for that cortBnission to do. If they want to maintain
a commission, the whole idea behind the commission process in the first place was
to have a pro-active type of cortmission, rather than a reactive type of comnission.
That was the reason the work plan process was set up--to be an idea-generating
process by the comnissioners. The City Council is not going to get the study or
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 9, 1983 PAGE 9
the information they need to make a decision on a specific project by sending it
to an established commission, because the people involved in that commission may
not be at all interested in that issue and are not going to give the City Council
the reaction needed.
Mr. Schneider stated he agreed with Mr. Oquist--that at least some general
direction will have to be given to the Correnunity Development Commission,
Ms. Schnabel stated she was a little bit concerned about the combining of the
Energy Cortrnission and Environmental Quality Comnission. She would urge the City
Council to move very carefully when they make that decision.
Mr. boardman stated he did not feel it would hurt, because there are environmental
issues that are also energy issues. He thought the canbination of the two
commissions into one commission would be a good marriage.
Mr. Saba stated the problem with canbining the two cortmissions is the expertise.
The expertise in the environmental field such as wel] pollution, traffic pollution,
noise pollution, etc., are not similar issues, and there could be some problems in
working together. In energy, they want people who are knowledgeable and excited
about energy issues and who want to work in that area.
Mr, Schneider stated he, too, was a little uncomfortable with combining the two
commissions. The Energy Commission is a very pro-active commission, whereas the
Environmental Quality Camnission seems to be a staff-dominated canmission. With
all the environmental issues thbt are happening right now, he would expect to be
getti�g calls from every one of the EQC members to find out what is going on, and
to be taking some actions, setting up meetings, etc.
Mr. Boardman stated Staff is trying to get out of the business of creating
business for commissions. Staff wil] help as much as Qossible �o carry out the
ideas already generated by the cortmissions. The work has to be generated by the
commissions. If it isn't, then the cortmission process has to be rethought, and
it has to be done right now. That is why the work plan process is so important,
because the ideas being generated by the canmission members are things the
commission members are interested in doing.
Mr. Oquist stated he agreed with Mr. Saba that there are two different kinds of
expertise involved with energy and environmental issues. Those are two commissions
that really require their own expertise.
Mr, Saba stated there are times when it would be very advantageous for the two
commissions to meet jointly, but in terms of hazardous waste, noise pollution,
water pollution, and traffic pollution, those are not energy-related issues.
MOTION BY MR, OQUIST� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� THAT BECAUSE OF THE DISPARITY BETWEEN
PHE ENERGY COMMISSZON AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION IN TERMS OF SUCH
ISSUES AS WATER POLLUTZON� HAZRRDOUS WASTE DISPOSAL, NOISE POLLUTION� AND TRAFFIC
POLLUTION� THE PLANNING COMMISSZON RECOMMENDS TO THE CITY COUNCZL THAT THE ENERGY
COMMISSZON AND ENVZRONMENTAL QUALZTY COMMISSION NOT BE COMBINED.
UPON A VOZCE VOZ'E� ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TNE MOTZON CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 9 1983 PAGE 10
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MR. SABR� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL, TO ADJWRN THE MEETING. .UPON R VOZCE
VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE� CHAIRWOMRN SCHNABEL DECIARED THE FEBRUARY 9� 1983, PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETZNG AAJOURNED RT I1:00 P,M.
Respectfully submitted,
Lyrfn Saba �
Recording Secretary
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PUBLIC HEARING
BEFORE TNE
PLANNINr, COMMISSION
Notice is hereby given that there wi11 be a Public Hearing of the
Planning Comnission of the City of fridley in the City Hall at 6431
University Avenue Northeast on Wednesday. March 16, 1983,
in the Council Chamber at 7:30 P.M. for the purpose of:
Consideration of a Special Use Permit
SP #83-01, by Roger H. Mengelkoch, per
Section 2�5.101, 3, 0, of the Fridley
City Code, to allow an old depot and
a Pullman railroad car to be place on
the property far a comnercial business,
located on Lot 18, Auditor's Subdivision
No. 77, except the northerly 198.21 feet
thereof, the same being 7355 East River
Road N.E.
Any and e11 persons desiring to be heard shali be given an opportunity
at the above stated time and place.
VIRGINIA SCNNABEL
CHAIRWOMAN
PLANNING COrP1I55I0N
PuDlish: March 2, 1983
March 9, 1983
MAILING LIST
SP �83-01, Roger H. Mengelkoch
7355 East River Road N.E.
Roger H. Mengelkoch
6425 Willow Lane North
Minneapolis, Mn 55430
Robert Olmstad
Stanton Realty
Brooklyn Park Office
7201 West Broadway
Brooklyn Park, Mn 55428
Burlington Northern
176 East 5th Street
St. Paul, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Frederick Covey
7321 East River Road N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Raymond A. Priem
7356 East River Road N.E.
Fridley> Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Ronald Enroth
7340 East River Road N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mary Ann Murry
100 Glen Creek Road N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Kunz Oil Company
Po. 0. Box 24091
Minneapolis, Mn 55424
Mr. & Mrs. Dale Miner
12 Talmadge Way N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
The Kunz Oil Company
Walter M. Kunz, President
5200 Eden Circle East
Edina, Mn 55436
Mr. & Mrs. Louis Schmidt
7300 East River Road N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
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Planning Cortenission March 1, 1983
City Council
Fridley A & W
7429 East River Road
Fridley, Mn 55432
Karl Schurr
Minco Praducts Inc.
7300 Comnerce Lane N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
The Pillsbury Company
608 2nd Avenue South
Minneapolis, Mn 55402
Mr. & Mrs. Williard Frank
7335 East River Road N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
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SP #83-01 Roger H. Mengelkoch
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October 26, 1982
To the City of Fridley:
Please be advised the undersigned being buyers by contract
for deed of following described property-(Lot B.) of Lot 18,
Auditor's Subdivision No. 77, Anoka Co.; will allow public access
to use the westerly 40'.
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PLANNING tOMMI5520N MfETING SfPTEMBER )5 1982 PAGE 10
KOTION BY lgt, KONARSCX� SfiCONDED BY IQt, SA RECOlAlEND CIWNCIL
11PPROVAL OF SPECIAL USE PERIYZT REQUES !'B2-09, BY E�ER: PER
SECTZON ?05,101� 3� O� TO ALLOW ERXERD RDpp A f�tJOD PRAXE� APPROXIMATELY
30� DY 50' QN THE EAST EN �li EXISTING ZNG FOR A DISPIAY AREA FOR FRESX
PRODUCE, LOCATED ON 1� BLOCK I� S CH ESTATES� TRE SANE BEZHG 7620
i1NNERSITY AVEN .S.
.'•UPON A i� E VOTE� 11LL YOT aYE� CHASRWpYAN SCXNABEL DECLAR£D �'HE NOTION
CARRIED UNANINOUSLY,
3. LOT SPLIT RE U�ST: L.S, w82-06, BY THE KUNZ 01L LOMPANY: Split off
�arce ying sout er y of a ine para e wit an distant 197.0 feet
north of. as measured at a right angle to, the South line of said Lot 18).
from Garcel A. both in Lot 18. Auditor's Subdivision No. 71� the same being
1355 and 7365 East River Road.
Mr. Boardman stated the proposal is to sp]it off Parcel B from Parcel A. O�e
of the stipulations would be a park fee. A park fee is required as part of a
lot split. The park fee would be E635.40. Staff would also recormend two other
stipulations: (1) a 45 ft, easement off fast River Road for road right-of-way
on Parcel A and B to allow for future expansion of East River Road; and (2) a
10 ft. drainage easement on the north side of Parcel A.
Mr. John Crouch stated he was reQresenting Kunz Oil Company. He stated it seemed
to him that it should be the County that insists upon the easement and not the
City. The County has the power of eminent domain, and the Lounty has the
obligation under the law to pay for private property when they take it. He
stated their request to divide this parcel of land� 1,86 acres, clearly undeveloped�
clearly not producing the real estate tax revenue it can for the schoo] district�
the city. and the county, was a very simple request, Ne frankly thought the Lity
had no right or power to take 45 ft, of this property at this time� but that was
for the City's legal staff to advise them. He knew that under the statutes and
the case law, the City could take the park dedication fee and the utility easement
around the perimeter of the property, and he would not object to those stipulations.
But� in talking about the 45 ft.� let the County condemn it and then the Lounty
can pay for that land. He thought to take 45 ft. of this property was u�lawful,
and he woutd not agree with that stipulation.
NOTION BY !!R. OpUIST� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� Tp RPCpy/4END TO CITY COUNCIL RPPROVAL
OF IAT SPLZT REWEST� L.S. NB2-06� BY THE XUNZ OIL COMPANY� TO SPLIT OFF PARCEL B
(LYZNG SAUTHERLY OF A LINE PARALLEL WITH AND DI52ANT I97.0 FEET NORTH OF� AS
NEASURED AT A RIGHT ANGLE TO� TXE SOUTH LZNE OF SAID IAT 18)� FROM PRRCEL A� BOTN
IN LOT 28� AUDITOR'S SUBDNISION NO. 7�� TBE SAME BEING 7355 AND 7365 EAST RIVER
ROAD, D'ITB THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONSs
I. THERE BE A PARX DEDICATjpM FEE OF a635.10
?. 11 20 FT. DRASNA6E EASEMENT BE RETAINED ON THE NORTI! SIDE OF PARCEL Il
UPpN R VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTINC JIYE, CXAIRWOMAN SCNNABEL AECLRRED TNE 1NOTION
CARRIED UNANIHOUSLY.
CITY OF FRIDLEY
HOUSING 6 REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
MEETING
JANUARY 13, 1983
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Comners called the January 13. 1983. Housing 5 Redevelopment
Authority meeting to order at 7:32 p.m.
ROtt CALL:
Menbers Present: Larry Cormers� Elmars Prieditis, Carolyn Svendsen,
Dnane Prairie, Uatter Rasmussen
Menbers Absent: None
Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner Darret Clark, Chief Buildina
John flora. Publit Works Direttor InsFector
Nasim Qureshi, Lity Manager
Mark Burch, Asst. Public Works Director
Sid Inman� City Finance Director
Jim Robinson, Planning Staff
Mayor 6i11 Nee
Dennis Schneider, Councilman
Ed Hamernik� Councilman
Bob Barnette. Councilman
Ed Fitzpatrick, Councilman
Mark Naggerty. 6441 Univ. Ave. N.E.
Jim Black. 7824 Alden Way N.E. -
Brian Goodspeed, 731 Rice Creek Terrace
Bill Von K1uq, Vort K u 6 As�ociates
Harold Skjelbosta0, n�erDesign, Inc.
APPROVAL OF DECEMBER 9 1982 H�USING 6 REDEVELOPME�IT AU7HORITY MINUTES:
IY�ION BY HR. PRAIRIE, 5£CONDED 8Y MR. RASMUSSEN, TO APPROVE THE DEC. 9, 198?,
HDUSING B REDEVELOPMENT AUTNORITY MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRPERSON COkHERS DECLARED THP NOTIOl7
CARRSED i1NANIHOUSLY.
I. CENTER CITY DISTRICT
A, Phase II Improvements
1. ltemo l+83-01 from Exetutive Director
Mr. Boardman stated there are several steps in the Center City
District. The first phase (covered in Memo �83-01) deals with the
overall project. At different stages, the HRA has looked at
HOIISING d REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, JANUARY 13, 1983 PAGE 2
different parts of the plan and have aparoved diffetent bulldinn
construction. He felt they were now looking at approving the final
Phase II layout and to petition the City to do the parking lot
improveMents that were conditioned under the contract with the office
building, In Resolution No. HRA 1-1982, the HRA had petitioned the
City to do 64th Ave. He stated that in regard to 64th Ave., the
sewer and water are already io, and street surfacinq, curb and gutter
will be done in the spring.
Mr. Boardman stated representatives from the Finance �ept, ard the
Engineering Dept. �rere at the neeting to anso�r any questions the
HRA might have.
Mr. Comners asked what the agreement was with the City in regard to
the parking )ot at this time.
Mr. 8oardman stated the agreement they have at this time with
Mr. Haggerty is to provide a 166-stall parking lot� and within that
agree�ent, the HRA would lease the parking lot to ►1r. Haggerty.
He stated he has talked to Mr, Quresh�� and tney have reachea a
tentative agreement on the maintenance of the parking lot. In the
"A9reement of Cooperation between the City of Fridley and the
Fridley Housing 8 Redevelopment Authority", the HRA is a9reein� to
construct a 166-stall parking lot that will be shared between the
City and the office building, The HRA is requestinq the City to
do the maintenance, but the HRA will be assessed for the construc-
tion of that parking lot. In return for the construction of the
parking lot, the City, as part of their regular maintenance of City
Ha11� would also carry out the maintenance on the parking lot.
Ms. Svendsen stated that in the "Agreement of Cooperation", one of
the things tisted in the regular maintenance was "repairing". Did
this include resurfacing of the parking lot?
Mr. Boardma� stated resurfacing is included as part of the maintenance
responsibilitzy.
Mr. Boardman stated he would like the HRA to approve the "Agreement
of Cooperation" and submit it to the City Louncil for approval.
Mr. Cormers stated that in looking at the proposal� he noticed the
parking lot has been written in at 5140,000, but there was nothing
about a firemen's parking lot.
Mr. Boardman sYated that. at that time, the firemen's parking lot
was included as part of the plaza area. llith the development of the
plaza area, they took out the old firemen's parking lot and re-
designed the area. They were looking at breaking that out as a
separate cost. There were two ways of handling it--they could do it
as part of the street project artd assess 9t, or they could do it as
part of the plaza. When they did the initial review of the parking
HOUSIN6 6 REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, JANUARY 13, 1983 PAGE 3
lot about one year ago, it was estinated at 5109,000 which did not
include the lighting. irri�ation� or landscaping. They have now
completed the designs on the parking lots, and the costs the HRA
had were the engineering estimates for the office/city hall parking
lot and the firemen's parking lot. He stated fie would like approval
so the City can go afiead with the bidding process. They fiope to go
out for bids by early March.
2. Plaza Design Dresentation - InterDesign. Inc.
Mr. Harold Skjelbostad, InterDesign, Inc.. reviewed the final plaza
design proposal which incorporated the ideas and discussion of the
HRA meetir.g on Sept. 23. 1982.
Mr. Schneider stated he was concerned, fro� an aesthetic Qoint of
view, about the cars in the firemen's parking lot.
Mr, Skjelbostad stated that has been discussed, and one thing that
would help in screening the lot was the existing chain link fence
along University Ave. For the median strip they are proposing Aetween
the service road and University, they are looking at a grass mixture
that would grow higher tha� the average type of grass. They are also
looking at depressing the firemen's parking lot to a certain extent.
Mr, Commers asked if the firenen's parking lot could be moved north
of the Fire Station where Mr, Haggerty's office building is now
located.
Mr, �ureshi stated the firemen are very happy with this layout. The
parking lot'has t� be very close to the Fire Station entrance, as
every second is critical when there is a fire.
Mr. Clark stated there was also the contern of having people running
across the police emergency lane.
Mr, Prairie asked how many cars would be parked in the firemen's
parking lot on an average day.
Mr. Clark stated that during the day, there are probably less than
six cars in the lot, except when there is a fire.
Mr. 5chneider stated that fron his point of view, the six cars that
woutd be there during the day would seem to be a continual visual
distraction. He stated a possible solution would be for the day
Fire Station staff to park eTse�ahere and use this lot only for the
people responding to a fire cal].
Mr. Qureshi stated they could attempt to give alternate space for
those people on duty and restrict this lot to smergency use only.
HOUSIN6 5 REDEVELOPMENT AU7HORITY MEETING, JANUARV 13 1983 ' PAGE 4
Mr. Skjelbostad reviewed the Site Development Costs for the plaza,
totalling 5294�371. Alternates were irrigation, crosswalk pavers,
and parking lot planLings totalling 533,824. Grand total with
alternates was 5328.195.
Mr. Qureshi stated thai if it is the desire of the HRA and the Citv
Council to proceed with the total project, he would recommend they
proceed as quickly as possible as the timing and the biddina climate
are very good right now.
Mr. Rasmussen stated he felt it was very important to keep the
momentum qoing, There is building going on� the p]aza is cormiitted,
and he thought the plaza price looked pretty good.
Mr. Cormiers asked if it was the desire of the City Council to do the
plaza in one tump sum at this time; and if so. would the City Council
be willing to contribute anything to the project?
Mayor Nee stated the Lity Council members were quite excited about
the plaza. He stated Staff has asked the City Council if they would
be wilting to contribute in socie way, and he thought the City Counci)
menbers were at the meeting to try to work sanething out if the
proposal was something the HRA was willing to do.
Mr.Qureshi stated that in a discussion with the City Council, he had
suggested a reasonable approach for the City Council to take. They
are providing a revised parking lot for the fire services, and there
might be some justification for the City to take the responsibility
of redoing the firemen'S parking lot and also provide for some of the
cosi of the signaqe. Also, because it is kind of joint effori in that
the HRA is providing the parking, landscaping and plaza area, the City
could provide for the maintenance of these facilities. He stated the
iotal the City would be contribuLing would be around 530,00�.
Mr, Qureshi stated they feel they will also be �edoing 5th St. to
handle the traffic. and the improvement and upgrading of 5th St, would
also be a contribution by the City.
MOTIO2J BY HR. RASN.USSEN� 5£CONDED BY HR. PRAIRIE, TO APPROVE
R£SOLUTION NO. HRA 1-1983, "A R£SOLUTION APPROVING TNE PLAflN£D LAYQUT
OF pRQTECT AREA II WITHIN THE CENTER CITY REAEVELOPMENT DZSTRICT".
- UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE, CHRIRP£850N COMMERS DECLARED THE
. NOTION CARRIED UNANSMOUSLY.
MOTZON BY HR. RASMUSSEN� SECOIJDED BY XR. PRI£DSTIS� TO APPROVE
RESOLUTZON NO. HRA ?-2983, "A RESOLUTION PETITIOlJSNG THE CITY OF
FRFDLEY FOR PARXING IAT AND REZAT£D LAlJDSCAP£ IMPROVEMENTS FOR
CENTER CITY-FRIDLEY PLA2A OFFICE BUSLDING PROJECT".
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CXAIRP£RSON CO.NMERS DECLARED TN£
MOTION CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY.
HOUSING b REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, JANUARY 13, 19B3 DAGE 5
HOTION BY HR. PRI£DITIS, SEC017D£D BY NR. RASNUSSEN� TO APPROVE TNE
"AGREENENT OF CODPERATION BE7WE£N TXE CITY OF FRIDLEY �IND THE
FRIDLEY NOUSING i REDEVELOPMENT AUTXORI7'Y".
UPON A VDZCE VOTE, aLL VOTSNG aY£, CHAIRPERSQN COKVERS DECLARED THE
NOTION C'ARRIED UNANIHWSLY.
H0770N 8Y !!S. SV£FDSEN� SECOND£D BY MR. PRAIRTE, 7b APPROVE
RESOLUTION NO. HRl 3-1983� "A R£SOLUTZON APPROVIXG TXE FINAL PLAZA
PLAN FOR PXASB TZ OF TNE LEX7'ER CITY DISTRICT AND AUTXORIZSNG TH£
DEVELOPMENT OF CO!15TRUCTZON P7ANS',
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRP£RSOY COY.HERS DECLARED THE
HOTION CARRIEB UNAYINWSLY.
3. Building P1an Approval - tiinic 3 Office Building
Mr. Boardman stated that when the HRA had looked at a previous
resolution on construction plans for the medical ciinic, they had
requested that Mr. Darrel Clark be in attendance. Based on the
co�tract documents for both the clinic and the office building, final
plans have to be formally approved by the HRA. Ne had asked Mr. Clark
to be at this meeting to present those plans to the HRA. Mr. Llark
would also be happy to answer any questions the HRA memGers had re-
9arding the approval process.
Mr.Doardman stated that regarding the office building, the footings
have been put in and a building pern+it fias Eeen issued up to grade.
Mr. Haggerty has assured fiim that everything is right on schedule,
and they hope to have the building open by the end of May.
Mr. tlark stated t�at as far as the medical clinic is concerned, the
plans have all been reviewed by Staff. Nith rega�d to the office
Duilding plans, there is some refining being done to the mechanical
and electricat. Those ptans have not yet been approved hy Staff, but
the structural plans have been approved.
Hr. Prieditis stated that regarding signage, the HRA has not seen
any proposals for signage. and the only drawing the HRA had seen
was the prelir�inary drawing. As those plans progress� he would like
to see if these plans are like Nhat they saw in the preliminary
drawings. Essentially, they Nere talking primarily about aesthetics.
but he weuld like to make sure the HRA had some corc.ient before the
project goes ahead.
thairperson Corvners declared a 15-minute recess from 9:05 p.m, to
9:20 p.m, in order for the HRA members to look over the buiiding
plans for both the office and the clinic.
' HOUSIt�G E REDE';EIOPM; T AUTHORI7Y MEETIHf,, �ANUARY 13. 1983 PAGE 6
NOTION F' XR. PRS£DZTIS� SECOND£D BY NR, PRAIRIE. TO APPROVE
RESOLi1T- �.Y N0, HRA 4-I983� ^R£SOLUTTOH APPROVING TNE CONSTRUCTION
PLANS 0 TXE HEDSCAL CLINIC BUILDING AS SUB.NITTED BY COLUNBIA
PRRX PF :'ERTIES•.
iJPON T YOICE VOT£� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON COMNERS DECIARED
TXE X_�SION CARRI£D UNANINOUSLY.
NOTIOV 8Y 4IIt. RASMUSS£N� SECOt1BED BY MR, PRIEDITIS, TD APPROVE
R£SOLUSSON N0. NRA S-I983, °RESOLUTSON APPROVING TXE CONSTRUCTIO.'J
PLANS OF THE FRIDLEY PLAZA OFFICE BUILDING A5 SU8!'ITT£D BY TXE
FRIDLEY YLAZA OFFICE BUILDSNG PARTNERSHIP" AND TO AUTHORIZE STAFF
TO ISSUE SUILDING PERHITS B7LSED ON THE STRUCTURAL AND RRCHITECTURAL
PLANS THE STAFF NRS IN TH£SR POSSESSION AT THIS TINE.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRP£1t50N CON,NERS bECL71RED TH£
NOTIDN CARRI£D UNANINOIISLY, _
4. Lorrespondence - Virgil Herrick (Harde7 Condemnation)
Mr. Commers stated this is a ietter from Mr. Nerrick to G. Stanley
Rischard telling Mr. Rischard that the HRA will be taking the
property and making the 75X payment whith is apparently required Cy
law prior to the hearing.
Mr. Boardman stated he had just received a copy of a letter that
day from Hr. Risthard to Mr. Herrick, Mr. Rischard is sayinq that
Mr. Nardel is in Lhe situation where the HRA is requiring him to move
within 40 days, yet without the full E66,000 they have on the appraised
value, Mr. Hardel will not have the money for a down payment to acquire
another piece of property. Mr. Rischard is requesting the HRA to
give tAe full appraised value ihe same as r,as done on the garaqe.
Mr. Cammers stated he thought the Taw t�ad changed and that on a
quick take, they are required to give the amount of the appraisal.
Mr. Boardman agreed, Mr. Rischard stated in his letter that he felt
the law had changed, In talking with Mr. Herrick, Mr. Boardman stated
Mr. Herrick had no problem with this as ]ong as there was the same
kind of signed agreement they had w{th the garage property. 7he
closing daie has been set for nround the first of Feb.
Mr. Comners stated that the staff shou]d go ahead, He did not feel
any action was necessary by the HRA and they would pay the full
amount, rather that the 75Y.
NOU5ING b REDEVELOPMENT AU7HORI7Y MEETING, JANUARY 13, 1983 PAGE 7
SI.
5. Report from Bill Yon Klug
Hr, Von K1ug stated the HRA members had a copy of an appraisal done
by Patchin Appraisats. Inc.. on the immovable fixtures at the Magic
5wir1 Beauty Salon. This is actually an acquisition item� rather
than a reTocation item.
Mr, Von Klug stated fie needed the approval of the HRA in order for
a check to be drawn up in the amount of 510,249 so that when the
Bill of Sale is signed, the check can be issued to Mr, Croaker.
owner of the ltagic Swirl Beauty Salon, He stated this amount does
not include relocation. The relocation costs will be about another
E2,50Q-3,OU0.
MOTION BY XR. RASMUSSEN� SECOND£D BY NS, SVEI:ASEN� TO APPROVE T!!E
ACQUISTTION OF TXE IMMOVABLE FSXTURES FROM THE MAGIC SWIRL BEAUTY
SALON IN TN.E AMDUNT OF 510,?49.
UPON A VDICE VOTE� ALL VOTZtlG AYE� CHAZRPLRSON Cp'dME7:S D£CLARED THE
NO270N CARRSED UNANINOUSLY.
NORTH AREA DISTRICT
A. Request for Assistance - Jerry Paschke (Memo M83-03 from Ex. Director}
Mr. 6oardnan stated Mr. Paschke was unable to attend the meeting Decause
of illness in his family. Mr, Boar�nan stated he has discussed this
briefly with Mr. Paschke, dnd Mr. Boardmar, had given the HRA memDers a
breakdown with a map includirg potential bornls and the assistartce
�ir. Paschke is requestir.g.
Mr. Boardrr�n sta!ed that on Lots 7 and 6, Block 3. and Lot 8, B1ocY 4,
there are already buildings going up that the HRA will capture increment
from. On Lots 4. 5, and 6� Biock 3, Mr. Paschke has applied for a
building pe►mit. Mr, Paschke is requesting some assistar�ce on that
property from the HRA in tl�e form of fill and for soe,e assessment
assistance.
Mr. Boardman stated Mr. Paschke is aiso requesting assistarce for fill
and assessments on Lot 5, Block 4. From 7911 Ranchers Road, which is
Lot B, Block 4� they have an estimated tax increr;ent of 59,783 with
a potentiat bonu of $52,072. Mr. Paschke is not requesting assistance o�
that piece of property.
Mr, Boardman stated that on 7920 University Ave., which is Lots 1 and 8,
Block 3, the buiiding is almost con�pleted. The tax on that is estimated
at E12,55]. Potential bond on tha: building would be 512,975. Phase II
of that which would be 7ots d, 5, and 6, has a little larger buil�ing,
and the proposed bond is about E104,624,
HDUSING E REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY !'EETING, JANUARY 13 1983 PAGE 8
Mr, Boardr.�an sYated that on Lot 5, Block 4, there are no building plans
at this time; however� in looking at the po:ential building per land
area, they could have a poteniial bond of around S9).000.
Mr, Boardman stated he met with Mr. Herrick and Mr, Paschke. If the
HRA approves the assisting o,` Mr, Paschke, the total assistance cost
would be approximately E110,000. Total boi�d cost they cauld gener•ate
from those properties is tlose to j320,000. If the HRA does want to
assist Dir. Paschke, they would want to ensure they had some assessment
cocuments nn it so they would have a minimum tax off all those properties.
Mr. Nerrick� Mr. Paschke, and he would have to sit down an�f work out tl�ose
documents, They would also have to go through one of the cor.tract
documents and pull out those things Mr. Herrick feels are necessary to
protect the HRA.
Mr, Boardman stated that if the HRA feels this is an appropriate way to
go, he would like the HRA to authorize Sta.`f to go ahead and prep�re the
documents to br?ng back to the HRA at their next meeting for approval.
MOTIDN BY NR. RASMUSSEN� SECONDED BY MS. SVElJDSEN� TD AUTHORIZE STAFF
TO CD FORWARD IN PI2EPAltING TXE CONTRACT DUCUMENTS WITH RECARD TO TNE
dSSISTA7ICE TO JERRY DASCHKE IN THE NORTH AREA _^ISTRICT.
UPON A YOICE VOT£� ALL VOTING AYE� CNAIRPERSO.V COMM£RS DECLARED TH£
NOTIOY CARRIED UNANIMO:TSLY.
II1. MOORE LAKE OISTRICT
A. Development Proposal for Otd Central - Dick Mochinski
(Memo �83-04 from Ex. Director)
Mr, Boardman sta'.ed he had expected Mr, Dick Reiersgord� who is repre-
sen:ing t�r. Mochinski. to be at the r,eeting, but he was not present.
Mr. Boardman stated that in the past. Mr. Mochinski did present a quad
proposal to the HRA. In analyzing a71 the costs of the project, there
was a shortfall of over 5300,�00 and therefore it was rot a feasible
pro;;ect because of the 1ow mari:et values that a+ere being sugqested.
Since that time. Mr. Mochinski has suggested a revision :o go with town-
houses. The way he is proposing it. if they do the total project, there
is still aDout a 5200,006 shortfall.
Mr. Boardman stated he would like to k�ow the feelings ef the HRA if
they felt this was a workable project or not. He would like to respond
to Mr. Reiersgord one way or the other.
Mr. Rasmussen stated he felt the HRA had the obligation to take a
better look at the project. This should be done at a public meeting
fn which the neiqhbors would be invited for tomnent.
HOUSING 6 REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, JAN�'AAY 13, 1983 PAGE 9
Mr. Carmers suggested that before the HRA takes an action on this they
should contact Mr. Mochinski and invite him to a public meetin9 to make
a presentation on his proposal. •
8. Update on Condo Project (Memo N83-05 fron Ex, Director)
Mr. Board�.an stated thot� as was suggested by the HRA, a meeting aas
held on Jan. 4 wit1� the nei5hborhood, There were 11 residents,
Jim RoDinson of the Planning Staff, Councilman Schneider. Mr, Ekberg
and himself at the meeting. He stated Mr. Schneider was very helpful
in trying to reach a ca�promise. The compromise that was suggested was
moving the towers north of all the single family residents.
Mr. Boardman stated that in a meeting with Mr. Ekberg, they looked at
that change based on the centeurs and site lines of the units. Mr. Ekherg
said he could not move the towers all the way nortfi of the residential
area, but he could compranise to move it all but one. He is su;gesting
taking *_he Ne15on'S property.
Mr. Boardman stated Mr, Ekberg will be coming in witl� a new proposal.
He asked if the HRP, would prefer tha*_ th;s new proposal be presented to
the neighborhood group before 6ringing it Defore the NRA.
The HRA �embers agreed that the new proposal should be presen!ed to the
neighborhood group, and tl�en the proposal should be presented to the NRA
at a public mecting.
IY. FINANC7AL
A. Financial Report
Mr, Inman reviewed the financial report with the HRA meobers
B. Check Register
MOTION SY XR. RASXUSSEN� SECONDED BY Mi, PRAIRIE, TO APPROVE THE CNECK
RECZSTER DATED DEC. 32� 298?� ZN R'XE AMOUNT OF $76�298.95 AND TNE CHECK
REGISTER DATED JA7J. 2?� I983� IN THE AMOUNT OF 540,086.42.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE
XdfION CARR7ED UNAtJIMOU5Z,Y .
Y, OTNER BUSINESS:
Due to the absence of two of the members for the Feb. lOth neeting, the
rieeting da!e was changed fran Feb. l0 to Feb_17, 7983.
HOUSING 6 RCDEVELOPMEN7 AU7HORITY MEETIIlG, JAl7UARY 13, 1483 PAGE 10
ADJOURNMENT•
Chairperson Commers declared the January l3. )953. Housing 6 Redevelopment
Authority meeting adjourned at 10:30 p.m.
Res ectfully su itted,
v''r r � � �-�.-
Lynr�e Sa a
Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION
MEETING
fEBRUARY 8. 1983
CALL TO ORDER:
Vice-Chairperson Vos called the February B, 1983. Community Development Comnission
meeting to order at 8:10 p.m.
ROLL CALI:
Members Present
Members Absent:
Others Present:
Ken Vos, Al Gabel� Carol fassett
LeRoy Oquist
Kent Hill, Economic Development Assistant
ELOPMENT
MOTION BY MR. GABEL, SECONDED BY MS. FASSETT� TO APPROVE THE JAN, 27� 19B3�
lfUMAN RESOURCES COMMZSSIDN/COMMUNITY DEVEIAPMENT COMMISSION SPECIRL MEETING
NINUTE3 AS WRZTTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL YOTING AYE, VICE-CNAIRPERSON VOS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
1. DISCU$5 1982 WDRK PLAN:
Dr. Vos reviewed the 1482 work plan with the Comnission members.
GOAL #1: COMMUNITY DEUELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT
Dr. Vos stated the Comnission members did gather information and make
recomnendations for CDBG funding to City Council. The Coinnission also
held a public meeting for the purpose of carmunity input� but the attendance
was very poor.
GOAL �2: HOUSING - To ensure adequate housing opportunities for the reside�ts
of fridley
Dr. Yos stated the Commission did not review the existing zoning as tfiey
had reviewed and recommended changes to the Zoning Code a couple of years
ago. They did review the comprehensive plan.
0
COtR�1UNITY DEYELOPMENT COh�1IS5I0N MEETING, FEBRUARY 8, 1983 PAGE 2
Dr, Vos stated the Comnission members had spent quite some time discussing
the need for an additional program for a single family ownership maintenance
code {Truth-in-Housing). They had a guest speaker. Bob lines`of the City
of Minneapolis Inspection Dept., who explained the program and how it
worked in Minneapolis. He stated the Comnission members were in favor of
this program in fridley, but they did not receive any support for the program
from the City Council.
Dr. Vos stated rehabilitation programs were discussed at the time they were
gathering information for CD86 funds,
Dr, Vos stated 5haron Gustafson was appointed representative to the Anoka
County Housing Resource Board and had attended several meetings before her
resignation from the Cortmission. The purpose of that Board was to provide
for equal housing opportunities in Anoka County.
GOAL #3: COMMUNICATIONS - To promote citizen awareness of Cortmunity
Uevelopment Camiission actions
Dr. Yos stated he thought all the coamissions preparing work plans had this
as a goal, The Comnission did spend a lot of time discussing the establish-
ment of a project canmittee to organize a"planning day" with the citizens,
civic leaders. city staff inembers, and comnission members. Larry 01son,
Chairperson of the New Brighton Study Committee that sponsors the New Brighton
Town Hall meetings, was a guest speaker at one of the Cortmission's meetings.
The Commission members were very interested in some kind of "planning day"
but again did not receive any support from the City Council.
GOAL N4: NEIGHBORHOODS - To ensure adequate development of neighborhood and
neighborhood access
Dr, Yos stated this was an item the City Counci] had sent down to the
Comnission. The City Council wanted neighborhoods established with identifiable
signage, The Cortmission had discussed it. The Cortmission members felt the
neighborhood concept was good, but that signage would not do what it was
intended to do and they did not feel it was worth pursuing at that time.
Dr. Yos stated the Commission continued to keep updated on the existing
bikeway/walkway system. A new strip of bikeway/walkway was put in along
University Ave. from Mississippi to 69th. They also discussed what could
be done as far as a bikeway along Mississippi St.
Dr. Vos stated public transportation for the elderly and handicapped was
discussed at the public hearing he]d for cortmunity input on CDBG funds.
2. DISCUSS STATUS OF COMMISSION:
Mr. Hill stated the Commissio� members had received a memo dated Feb, 2, 1983,
from Councilman Ed Hamernik expressing some of his concerns about the elimrnatian
of the Comnunity Development Comnission. Mr. Hamernik feTt comnunity development
was an important aspect of the City and there should be citizen input to the
Planning Comnission in this re9ard.
COMMUNI7M DEVELOPMENT COMMISSIQN MEETING FEBRUARY 8 1983 PAGE 3
Mr. Hilt stated he woutd also not like to see the Cortmunity Development Cmrmission
eliminated, if at all possible. He would like to spend sane time at this meeting
brainstorming some ideas about some areas the Comnunity Development Comnission
might want to be involved in over the next year.
Mr. Hill stated tfiat at the special Human Resources Comnission/Camwnity Develop-
ment Comnission meeting on Jan. 27 on CDBG's, he thought some of the Cortenunity
Development Comnission members had voiced an interest in following up on some of
the CDBG projects such as sma71 business loans and rehab loans to housing,
Mr. Hi11 stated that when the Community Development Cortmission was established,
one of its tasks was in economic development. He stated there are a lot of small
businesses within the City of Fridley� and there are a lot of things the Comnission
could do through the small business administration concerning loans, literature, and
supporting the Toastmaster Programs from a city government and cortmission perspec-
tive. As they get involved in economic development, a lot of the economic develop-
ment is in redevelopnent projects of current businesses expanding, The City is
trying to keep these businesses in Fridley. and the Comnission might do something
in an advisory capacity. Many times in talking to small business people about
redevelopment, the City finds these properties are not in code canpliance. It is
sanetimes very expensive to brin9 these properties and buildings up to code. This
can be quite irritating to the small business people v�hen the City asks for land-
scaping, screening, concrete curbing, etc. Maybe the Comnission could serve as a
resource in helping the small business person get additionai monies for the purpose
of bringing the property and buildings up to code.
Mr, Hill stated another possibility in economic development would be for the
Cortmission to act as a task force to the HRA to receive and pass on additional
citizen input to the HRA as the HRA receives new projects.
Mr. Hill stated the Commission could look at rehab that could tie in with CDBG
monies as far as additions to existin houses. energy as far as retrofitting,
and code compliance (Truth-in-Housing� In the transportation area, the Human
Resources Comnission will proDably be doing sanething in that area, but a joi�t
project between the Human ResourCes Commission and the Cortmunity Development
Comnission was very feasible.
Mr. Hill stated some other ideas might be in camiunity projects--being a project
comnittee for the 49'er Days celebration or same other city celebrations, the
Ethnic Day Festival, or being a liaison between the Ctty and various service organi-
zations in the comnunity such as the Chamber of Ca�merce, etc.
Mr. Hill stated the State of Minnesota, through their Planning, Energy and Economic
Developnent Dept., has what is called a"Star City Program". As industries from out
of state contact this department, Star Cities will receive referrals from the
companies that are interested in building. If a ca�munity does not hav e the "Star
City" classification, its name does not get passed on to these canpanies. In
o rder to be a Star City, there are a number of steps that have to be completed.
CONMUNITY DEYELOPMENT COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 8)983 PAGE 4
The City of Fridley has accomplished most of the steps. However, after the Lity
did the cost analysis, they felt they probably should not be promoting it. because
most of the iand the City has available has a lot of drainage and soil problems.
The City felt being in this program may not be that advantageous so the program
has been stalled for right now.
3. FQRMtJLATE 1983 WORK PLAN:
Mr. Hiil stated the Commission is going to have to formulate some specific
recomnendations on what the Comnission would like to get involved in for 1983
and pass these recomnendations on to the City Council. He felt they should have
their recomnendations ready for the City Council's conference meeting in March.
The Comnissian members set a special meeting for Tues., Mar. 1, at 7:30 p.m,
for the purpose of formulating sane specific recomnendations for the 1983 work plan,
Mr, Hill stated that if the Cor�nission members needed any inforniation before the
next meeting, they were free to contact him as he was their resource person.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MX. GABEL� SECONDED BY MS. FASSETT� TO AAlOURN THE MEETING. UPON A
VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CNAIRPERSON VQS DECLARED TXE FEBRUARY 8� 1983�
COMMUNZTY DEVELOPMENT COMMZSSZON MEETING AATOURNED AT 9:30 P.M.
Resp ctfully subnitted,
G
Lynn Saba
Recording Secretary
City of Fridley
APPEALS CONPIISSION MEETING TUESDAY FEBRUARY 15 1983 PA6E 1
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Gabe1 called the Appeals Commission Meeting of Tuesday, February 15,
1983, to order at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Me�^��rs Present: Patricia 6abe1, A1ex Barna. Jim Plemel, Jean Gerou, Donald Betzotd
.iers Present: Kent Hill, City of Fridley
Ing Siverts, 6850 Siverts Lane N.E., Fridley
Yivian Hoese, 7675 Madison Street N.E., Fridley
Blanche Erkel, 567 Rice Creek Terrace, Fridley
Ivy and Jack Young, 17925-26th Avenue North
Les Gerdin, 5739 Kennaston Drive N.E.
APPROYAL OF APPEALS COhlMISSION MINUTES OF JANUARY 18 1983:
The word "asked" was inserted as tfie third word on the first line, page 3.
Mr. Siverts had corrections on page 6, tfiird paragraph line 5, should read"5 feet
apart" instead of 10-12 feet apart and line 9, should read "watk to their bedroom
window" instead of through their bedroom window; and line 19, the vrords "on a
lower level" should be stricked.
M4TION by Mrs. Gerou, seconded by Mr. Betzold, to approve the minutes as corrected.
UPON A VOICE YOTE ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECURED THE MOTION LARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
1.
MQTIQN
taT
;ARRIED
by Mr. Betzotd, seconded by Mr. Barna, to remove this agenda item from the
UPON A YOICE YOTE ALL YOTING AYE, CNAIRPERSON Gi16EL DECLARED THE MOTION
UNANIMOUSLY.
�TION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Nr. Betzold, to open the public hearing. UPON A
ICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THf PUBLIC HfARING OPEN AT
35 P.M.
Mr. Hill submitted drawings to the Commission and said that the petitioner has withdrawn
his request for the south side yard varia�ce, and that 7 feet has been agreed upon by
the parties. Mr. Siverts was present for this matter. Ms. Gabel said she spoke with
Mr. Clark and the fence is not structurally sound as it stands now and these plans are
what is necessary to make the fence structurally sound; that the specifications have to
be followed. Mrs. Gerou stated she visited the area and found the fence to be
wobbly, tied with phone Nire, that the vertical boards are uneven and do not run in
a straight line and the horizontat boards are bowed. She also said the angte support
beams are on the neighbor's side of the fence and 3 feet of the fence is above the
�veals Comoission Meetina —Februnrv 75 7983 Pave 2
support 6eams. t�s. Ga6e1 said, according to the blueprint, the fence can be made
structurally sound. Mrs. Gerou asked the petitioner why the angle support beams
are facing the neigfibor's and if fie takes care of the property on the other side
of the fence. Mr. Siverts said the support 6eams are on his property and he does
not take care of the property on the other side of the fence. Ms. Gabel noted that
his neigh6or o6jected to that at the last hearing. Mr. Barna said he visited the
area and iooked at the watkway at the Medtronics 6uilding and he could not see
the hardship as stated and said the Comnission is looking for a sounder hardship.
He said the parking lot is not on the street side and he does not have street sounds.
Ms. 6abe1 said she visited the area also and that everyone in the neighborhood is
subject to the snme conditions and if they allowed a 10-foot fence to be put up,
the whole neighborhood could put one up. Mr. Siverts asked if the Comnission
thought the fence would be out of place aesthetically and Ms. Gabel, Mrs. Gerou,
Mr. Barna and Mr. Betzold agreed it would. He then asked how important the neighbors
opinions were and Ms. Gabel said it is one factor and that is why the public hearing
notices are sent out and having a definite hardship is another factor. Mr. Barna
said if objections exist either with the neighbors or the commission, then it is
up to the City Council and even if the fence was a joint venture with the neighbors,
there would stiil have to be a hardship. Mr. Siverts presented two letters from
two neighbors who had no objection to the fence.
MOTION by Mr. Plemel, seconded 6y Mr. Barna, to receive the two letters from Mr.
Siverts' neighbors and they 6oth do not object to the fence. UPON A VOICE VOTE,
ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPER50N GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. 5iverts said there is a constant humning sound coming from somewhere and Mr.
Barna said that it was the reflection of sound of tires off Highway 65. Mr. Siverts
felt the fe�ce would 6e a protector from he sound and in some placed a 7 foot fence
would not 6e adequate because of the elevation of the terrain in the area.
MOTION Dy Mr. Barna, seconded 6y Mr. BetZOld, to ciose the public Aearing. UPON A
YOICE YDTE, ALL YOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
AT 8:00 p.M.
Mr. Betzold said he has visited the area during the daytime and evening and he is
not convinced of the hardship. Mr. Plemel said the Siverts' home is in a unique
setting and did not see where the fence vro uid be readily visible by others. Mrs.
6erou felt the fence is an eyesore and was not convinced of the hardship. Ms. Gabel
said she was not convinced of the hardship either.
MOTION by Mr. Betzold, seconded by Mrs. Gerou, that the Appeals Commission reco�nend
to the City Council, through the Planning Comaission, denial of the variance request
to increase the maximum height of a fence from 7 feet to 10 feet in the rear yard
and side yards of Lot C, Registered Land Survey No. 3, the same being 6850 Siverts
Lane N.E., Fridley, Minnesota, 55432. UPON A YOICE VOTE, THREE VOTING AYE AND Tu0
YO7ING NAY, CHAIRPERSON 6ABE� !?ECLARED 7HE M(?7ION CARRIED.
2.
TY
Kequest Dy vivian ncese, B. M. G. 3 Associates (Fridley Medical
8 Land).7675 Madison Street N.E., Fridley, Minnesota 55432).
ON
�peals Comnission Meetina - Februarv 15 1983 Paqe 3
MOTION Dy Mrs. Gerou, seconded 6y Mr. Barna, to open the public hearing. UPON A
YOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIN6 AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN
AT 8:05 P.R.
Ms. Yivian Hoese was present for this matter. Mr. Hill presented the Commission
with plans of the proposed addition. Ms. Noese said they would probably put the
airconditioning unit on the roof of the building. Ms. Ga6e1 asked if there would
be a loss of parking and Ms . Hoese said there would not be and Mr. Nill stated
thv ,pu1d still 6e within the code but tfiey are asking the petitioner to reptace
t' temporary 6umper 6locks with poured concrete. The additional landscapinq
�gested in the Staff Report was questioned and Mr. Hill noted tfiat the landscaping
�peared adequate.. Ms. Hoese stated that the patient and empioyee parking will be
eparated and there will be no problems with entrances and exits. Mr. Hill said
that Items 3 and 4 on the 4taff Report, regarding parking, may not be feasibie
for this situation. Ms. Gal�el noted that all they are doing is just extending what
they fiave done previously and she could not see any problems. Mr. Bar�a said his
only question he had was visibility in the parking lot and he drove through the
area and found no problems.
Chairperson Gabel read the Staff Report:
ADMINISTRA7IYE STAFF REPORT
7675 Nadison Street N.E.
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERYED BY REQUIREMENT:
Section 205.1i3, 4(b) requires a minimum of 15 feet for a side yard setback.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to provide adequate open space
around commercial structures for aesthetic and fire fighting purposes.
B. �TA7ED HARDSHIP:
"Existing sideyard setback is 13 feet. Mew addition would be built even
with existing building. Additional space is needed for offices, orth�paedic
coverage and physical therapy."
C. ADMINISTRATIVE STAFf REVIEW:
This repuest is to vary a side yard setback in a CR-i District from the
required 15 feet to 13 feet, to enable con5truction of a 68 foot by 48 foot
(3.264 sQuare feetj addition to an existing structure. This addition will
be used for additional affice space and patient treatment rooms. On September
13. 1976, two variances were approved by the City Council: a front yard
parking setback from 20 feet to 0 feet and a rear yard Euilding setback
from 25 feet to 13 feet. However, thi5 request should have been to vary
a side yard parking setback from 5 feet to 0 ieet and another side yard
building setback from 15 feet to 13 feet. The actual variances would
vary less than the request and since there was no opposition to the variance
or construction, the request was not changed.
If this variance is approved, the Appeals Commission may want to consider
the following:
�peals Commission hleeting - February 15, 1983 Paae 4
2.
4.
upgrade temporary concreLe curbing to permanent 6 inch poured
concrete.
plant additional landscape/screen along Osborne Road and Madison
St reet .
parking aisles are not 25 feet, but 20 feet
parking stalls are not 10 feet by 20 feeL, but 10 feet by 15 feet.
Items 3 and 4 may nat be feaisble to complete. except to the south of the
building.
MOTION by Mr. Betzold, secortded by Mr. Barna, to close the public hearing. UPON A
YOICE YOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
AT 8:17 P.M.
Mr. Barna said that this does provide ope� space around the structure for aesthetic
and fire fighting purposes; it is still accessibte and the addition will not chan9e
anything. Mr. Plemel stated he had no objection to this addition.
MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mrs. Gerou, that the Appeals Cortmission recortmend
to t�Fe City Council, through the Pianning Co�nission, approval of the variance request
to reduce the required side yard setback from 15 feet to 13 feet, to allow the
construction of an addition of approximately 3,000 square feet, to be used for
additional office and medical space, located on the north 400 feet of the west 217.8
feet of Outlot 1, Melody Manor 4th Addition, the same being 7675 Madison Street N.E.,
Fridley, Minnesota, 55432, with the stipulation that the petitioner upgrade the
temporary concrete curbing to permanent 6 inch poured concrete. UPON A VOICE YOTE,
ALL Y07ING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECIARED THE PIQTION CARRIED UNANIMDUSLY.
OTHER BUSINESS:
Ms. Gabe1 said she has spoken to Mr. Deblon and apparently he had a variance request
that he thought was withdrawn and the petitioner tfwught it was on the agenda and
further stated they could discuss this matter 6ut the Comnission could take no
action on it as there had bee� no pu6lic notices sent out, etc. Mr. Hi1i explained
that Mr.�s cerdin was purchasing a Bome from 6lanche Erkel and they made a re-
quest sometime in the middle of January to vary the code �egarding the flood plain.
Apparently, Mr. �rd� was planning to convert the present garage into living
quarters and to cortstruct a new garage in front of the present ga�age. He stated
that the City ordinance, t6e Department of Naiural Resources and the federal govern-
ment does not allow any building to exist below the flood elevation. He also stated
that this situation might require a special use permit rather than a variance and
Lo go through the Planning Commission on March 16th. Ms. Gabel said the City staff
is doing some research on this now as this is a non-conforming use. Mr. Hill
suggested the petitioner to give some consideration to constructing vertical rather
than horizontal; that by 6uilding up, they woutd 6e outside tf�e flood elevatton.
Mr. Hill thought it best that the parties invotved get together with the Staff
to discuss this situation. Mrs. E�kel saSd sfie fias taTked ta the neighbors and
they have no objections. Ms. Ga6e1 said she could not see any problems either except
for the flood platn restrictions.
Appeals Coronission Meeting - Fe6ruary 15, 1963 Paae 5
Mr. Hilt said that any construction done rould have to go before the DNR and Rice
Creek Watershed for approval. Mrs. Erke1 said she bought the house in 1964 and
as far as she knew, there have 6een no problems Nith floodtng for 82 years.
Mr. Hill stated that as of January 1, 1983, the State has requtred the City to
file with Anoka County any variances, special use permits and lot splits and they
wi11 become part of the deed.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mrs, Gerou, to adjourn. UPON A VOTCE VOTE, ALL
40TING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARE� THE APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING OF FEBRUARY 15,
1983, ADJOURNED AT 8:40 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Deb Niznik,
Recording Secretary
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qn:Sva�i �: tl�e February 15, t�� �
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� ��Ls„ ltithard Svanda. Maynard Nielson
�"�"' = Bruce Petersan (a�r. 7:54 p.m<)
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I�bei�s l�r��n4z ##t►rne
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E.Q�N��rnik, Gouncitman
G�►a�t..Ne�.caif, SORT
ffayne Meilart, 6793 Oventon pr.,:�
Su�ra i�st�ski, 5996 McKinlq�
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;C1MtIS5I0N MINUTES:
�FROV£ TNE NOV. 16,:Z98?,
Y�Gt,71RSD T11E NOTSON
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k�i4ned�#hat througM.his �
��ent Advisory Coim�ittee
!2ropoliLan Council'is
r� approve county salid
�.ha3 -prepnred. Thus far.
� �f #hDSe a�eetings,
�'ies that were prepared
�er �e►unty proposals
rd.that-�pst of the �ounties
!�aEte�g a tot: of rel iaace on
�ergy-� Hennepi n Cau�rty i s
�s ,pre require� to comt up �_
4emolition ]'andfill. So
re cqnsidering. Tb�y haue "
��re rpfused to dp �4 et
E�'1YY�i�1��iTRt QUAtiTY f.4f!�IISSIt3�i,I�ETFN6, �EBRtlARY'3� _, i983 PAfif 2
i+)r. S�randa stated that wt�en the Cannission reviewed the:Mpka Co�nty �lan, they
had.t�epressed their eoncern atxw# the lack of publ�c partitipation i� the plan,
tlowever, +rhen Boti� flutcfiison and another individwat 'ft�txn A�oka Gtsuntg made their
presenLation to tiie WasLe tA�nagement Advisory C�nqr�'ttee, t�ey did indicaie they
were p]an�ting ta beef ap the p�biic partici{tation part:af the Anbka Go�nt,y �lan.
Mr. Svanda stated tfie getier�l �fieme througk�� the counties w�s they felt :it
wquid cost �re t4'prtrmate pubffc participation than they wouid get out af it.
Ht�wever, there are;progra�ms ih St. Louis Park and Minneapalis, as weT1 as otMer
parts of the cnun�ry, tAat do �t fee7 that�way. SL: louis P�rk is looking at
a 50Z partfcipatioY� rate wi�hin their exper#me�ital area and Santa Rosa, Ca., is
getting 75�.
Mr. Sy�nda stated he ww�s'riather skeptical t}� first about the idea of plants for
burn9ru� tfie garbage and �eneY�at�ng steam urtt#'� he v�isited the p9r�nt 'rn Redwing,
Mn. T#�at>pwutess is so simple,'it is unbe3"ievab]e. Tne build#:ng is sma11, about
ha}f.�fie size o# fridtey'City �al}. It is a city-wide servic�. They pick up .
refuse frorn a coup�e of cities �n Wisconsin� but are doing it more or less as
a means of mainta#ning an a�qUate supply. They are looking at ��pandfng the
serYace area, cuLtSng out tfie 0�isconsin cit�es and pieking it,up`far sorise of the
surrounding coun�fFS. Ne stat�f they suppty steam to a tennery which is right
pC+Xt dD01`. Tf�ey d'cr 5ubs3'dize low and moder8�t� inCane persflns.
Mr. �layne Weilan �a#ed Me wQrtcs for Carter-Da�y and has done quite a bft of
resp�rch into ct�A6u5tign equipment. Ne stated th�y {wt in two,�lants--one in
Brfdgeport, Mass,:,and ape in Brocktan, Ma�S. .They tried to ase the RDF (refuse-
ae,�l�a�a fuet3 s,y��n, a�►d he vrould definitely `nat r�ecarmend that type of s,ystem
as there are just`too mar�y probl�ns. There is toa mucfi maintenance and they are
just tob expensive. Me state� the starved«�,ir system is r�ch better:
(Mr, Reterson arrived at 7:54 p.m.)
Mr, Wellan stated that in �rid3ey, they wou'td have to toa�k at whether there were
any end users for this type of steam generati�tig system. The onTy possible area he
couid think of was down by fMC and Honeymeatl, ant! possibty the;Mtr�eapotis Water
5yst�n. If �t can be sotd as supplementary steam for`these v8rii�us industries,
it.wnu]d be a good Lhjng for the C9ty of frid3ey.
Mr. Deblon stated he had- hQped 8ob Nutchis�m of Anoka CouRty wc>u1d have been
abie io attend this meeting. +te asked Mr. iieTian ff he ha�d ahy �ecomnend�tions '
barsed on 'the Anoka County pten, `
Mr, iJellBn stated his first'r�omnendaiion wauld �e to lattk at tMe starved-air
sys#em s4mitar to the one in R�dwing, if prr5sible. The; only other pass3ble means
is'source'separation at,ihe:�ur�. He felt alt the �ther systems at this time
►�wid not fit intn Fri�li�r.
Ms. Metcalf statect she c�uldn''� 6elieve tt�# �etiwing was igna4�it►g source
separation. They couid qet �7 �uch purer ben°tu�ble. prt3duct by ia�3r►g Ct1t the nan-
burnable materials. The.+Dnly roblem in AnokB Gaunty rigktt now<'�s the Anoka
Gounty officials do not '€�el t�e populace wil] sup�ort curb-sid� separatian.
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people Mauld s t i,t when they find their
The cost o# gar��e l�uling is just gs3ng to
e last
subnitte� �o ihe Metropolit
cat9ort pr��s at the catnt
Rt Lh� ,"`fi nieeting in Oct
sounty t�.:+aeeting in Jani
Df . educttt��#��7 program. Mr.
bout;Lfiis �ee#in�. At the 1
3�rfinda ask,ed Mw;
Mp,�rt�ik st�ted`
�SaL__�2.��_.� L4� !
ed for it.
s remindetl her that the AnC�l�a�
$�t (!{NDPENj which starLed ab�
tf�,in the sct�tmis. Colle����
c��; � She�� did nat �� �koo►+ �rhy� _
i cos�tnibute to the: praje¢t.
•nik nhai his main ir
�e �s designated the,City Co
ruA�y. He was a little late
� 4efare the report came cut'
:� but Lfiat is where fiis tnte
were continued. he would tik�
� Canmission.
Coutd
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nt it
Mp� cc�../� �r�c;�.l.�y� Wu�
/A�# &�died h2 LhOUg�it
on
igement Act
mpte�aent a
�fgo uerm�er
bwld have t
� that wou7
of fridley
mposttng, S
�t some cre
�r the W�ai
p3an, the t
@C�Clieg���6
rrMaent inYo
et things 4
realize, a
d commib�aii
ed Ms. Met+�
and ouicke5
gs, before the Anpka
They discussed �rying
dfsseninating them'through-
tchison said he was going
#rder to maybe cane up
��d he has not heard any-'
they'discussed the possi-
� type of film for school
�t;way or at least making
r�pin School District had
2�'years ago. It was for
cettters were set up. but
e fi8tl been totd that the
s in this area.
in�dl liaison to the advisory
n getting in, so he oniy
r� f3e.tcaber: He did not; have
�e�t stertts from. He theught
� te have some input fran tfie
sion in it that says if a
� teduces tke waste stream
� ve sane kind of creAit
�+ facility the County
he had looked at it fran
�ni soaie type of effective
� tomposting. curb-side
some financiat her�efit.
ith the City Countil
#ad no prohlems with the
�ht the Commission:to do
ivarula stated he thought
6xt be if there was sane
4n the City Council wouTd
imolvcd.
�e SORT group's eff�rts
: waste reductian, 7hat
w1s and getting them
�1. 'fhe other reasun for possibly.trying;tt► reduce the amount of so]id
t� try tt� shift'the c�nter o€ camty:,qe�pra���n.';:Rfght now they+sey
ENYIBONFIfN'fAL QU1Ct.�TY Ct�'tISSFfNt`MEETtNG, PEBRt1ARY'15. 1J83 PAGE 4
that center of geturation is in Fridiey: Ff -they can get that shifted, maybe-
'they can get the pxoposed hazardous was#e s�#e'Toc�tion moved;out af Fridley.
Mr. Svanda asked Ms. Metcalf Aow successfut the expc�rimental curb-s�de pick-up
program had been"i� Lhe hteiodq Flanor ariea.
FFs. Metcalf �tated:it Aas been very successfu}, Right now it neads some
revitalization, bu# it fias be�t:'going on fit5 own for several ►eonths. For'the
first six months, they cpi3ected 3,538 lbs, of;glass, IU.b tons vf newspr3nC,
1� tons o# steel, and 223 1Cs, of alum9num, that was<invp'lving $pprox. lOQ homes.
?he qartic9pation wate ►�S 25�:0� those horae� sur�teyect. They;surveyes!'346 homes.
She stateei the hauler is:wi?}i�tg to pick up.retytlalales as long as he gets enougM
to make,it worthwhiie.
�ir, Svanda asked Mr. Deblan about the Gity'S Qi} recycliny facflity at SQRT.
Mr. Debion stated the 1�44a0 gal. tank was installed in Apri1 1982 Dy the Pub)ic
Works Depi. TMe:ai1 has been collected as foliows;
-. June'15 = i00 ge1.
Aug. b - 725 "
: 5ept; 2D _,750 �,
Nov. -'625 "
Mr. 5vanda stated that frt�n the<Camnissian's parspective, he thought it would be
advantageaus if the County couid ptace-more emphasis an pUblic education, getting
ir�t�s #he school systems,,sac+rkfng with environmenta'I caimissions and vrganizations
like S6R1` ta encourage r�cyclfifig and curb-side pickaup: He personal3y fielt
g�ttir�g the chitdren educated was the best r�p to go.,:
Mr, Peterson agreeG; they needed to educate the yuung people as you cannot
"teach an otd dog;:new tricks". So mar�y of th� olt#er people are already set in
their ways and it;is a lot hae�Ier to re-edu�ate those peopte.
Ms. Metcadf stated she and Meradie 5eline, who is on the SORT cc�nmfttee, get
many caT1s about i�ecycling, w�n the recyelir�g center is 4pen, etc. .She agreed
Lhey shoutd edu�ate tfie yaung, but there are m�iny people who were around during
Wer1d War iI when�the,y had ta recycte, and they do not feel rt is rigRt ta throw
thi�gs away. There is that sacial consciente;factor that is very s�rong in the
�arr�rnity. It has been helped by all the a�r�icles on recycling, but she also
felt there was �-5izeable portion of retiree� wha Te�ne�nber recycling during
Wortd War II.
Mr. Peterson stat.�d thE�t in order to get t�re fiiddle-�ged group of peopte
fnterestEd in rec;�cli�g , there has to be sc�;kind of manetar.y reward such a
reduction 1n their garb�+�e hauTing. The a�tftude of a:Tat of peopTe.is why
sbould they go te;the trouble of,separating and r�yctfng if there isn't any
benefit or redustion FR their garbage haaTtnq fee," _
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st��ed a su
�;�_stated;the'Ca�n
on
ptadmnq a me
,�NTI�3U�t�• D�S�
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��de at a Ctt
��aulers and"ha
r'� in doing or
rotrTd be better
itk� the hauiers,
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;inn at the cur�D
:o landfi7l the way
�as been done in other
y C�t��;�,retfng was the possi-
�s�nr► with tfiem t�
luld do with regard
•ar�mental �uality
at the City Cquncit
t�ss{on has talked at�� �t�t} this #or quite awhile.
Irntk� County's Land li�z�'#�aent Report and �re informa-
r1� wiih the t�p�ers: � �
C�ssion was at the point where they cautd
ers. The Commissioh. rs agreed to'deveto,p an
Mr. Svanda asked !l�r;.ik�?on to con#act the hauters
ihey are aware of f�;&."��pRSed meeting>
d send a letter out to � haui
mission has been stiudytr�g.#de s
Lting up;a meetirtg ih Apk'#1 �r�ii
� iran the haulers.
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r4
T�i~. bebian 5�ated Lhdt Et tl�e lsst meetirtg, tfiey ht[d dis�
` plxot p+^ograin iiul� �t. t,ouis Park had launched la�t f�t�1
wa3'put �ih8c pri±nartly;with CDBG fu�tng. Tfie Lity l
f�r,ft� r�ac,�i��-��'€or^ts, �and tMe City alsa contr€�
�r�l ��und: 5t. C`oiuis Park atso requested thst,�l�p•
•
. r�#e�ing i#�,q(�0'p�€��#d�� progr�n h�sdget, end they ;
° f�. �EAeblon s�;aed_ �� es�iaaated figures for the ai ` 1
� fOTlows: , : �`
C�tai r�etx� r�+�Q sets
Contein�r,t��spar.tation�
Cp�t��'•�il;i 5�ibuti tut
Col#��� �tt�. Ret,yCo)�
Pu6liC �#'��siedutatfon
&raph�ct;a�:��btirg
G4ty sLa��: rt�
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'7M5l� Ofl 3Qx p+#��alr����fi� ME�E' tfl�`AI
� � ��2�ind see�v#ces ��* �tianrfng and �on•
337.2W
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s stating that the
id waste problem
the hauters to discuss
issed the recycling
He stated the program
��cil set nside-�40,000
ii0,000 fram the
i Gouety fund the
�:that funding.
i pitot program were
.ollection
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�r, Svanda st8ted the C�missipn should put together a recycling program to be sub- '
�►itted for CDB� funds in`1984. ,Ne asked Mr, Deblon to give the Commission
`copfes of'the HUD criteria for`GDBG funding,
3, CQNTIN13�ll: HAZARDOU$ WAST�tPROCESSING FAGILITY
Mr. Deblon stat�d'>t#�ere would !se a fotmal �ubTic t�ar�ng at Fridley City Hatl
on Apri1 19 at 1:-t�1-�S;OO p.m. 8nd 7;00-70:30 p.m. The hearing was on' Site A, `
He stdted the Pia�tinq Commisston and Cfty A�ninistration wou7d like the Environ- -
mental Qualfty Go�nissiD� to facilitate puhaic awareness af this meeting to urge
people to attend �nd vofi�e their concerr+s 8hd'offe� testimony.
Mr. Deblon stated $ite A is a search area`tfiat is quite extensive. The City
has wrrtten to the-�tinnesota Waste Manageme»t Board te119ng them that parts of
this area•does nat�fit the criteria and�shoutd'be elimi�ted'immediately .: ihese
areas consist of tand za��ed re5idential. The ma4n criteria for a
site ts heavy ind�s�rial;; The Gity also tried to inform the Soard� with support-
im� data, a# the �o�r st��t, high water table, regiirnai and city park systems,
and the prox�mity to re5idential, ,'
Mr, Hamernik stat�d fihe px^imary concern is the transporation --the traffic a
waste processing #acilfi�y wouTd generate.
Mr. Deblon stated he has: been working witfi Bitt Hunt and Jofin-FTora.on this.
He has prepared an article for the spring �ity newsietter. �he Gt�nunity biil-
'board has been reserved fior one week, The i�rformation`wi11 be-put on cable TV
and in the Fridley Sun. If the Cortmissior�ers had eny other suqgestfons to
facilitate furtAer pubtie awarQness fibr thi.s pub7ic hearing, he 3vauTd appreciate
hearing them.
Ms. Metcalf stat�d the Ccrtmunity.section in the Minneapolis Star published on
Thursdays was an excellent resoarce.
. Mr. Nieison stateii he wqutd nstify the Cfia�ber of Comnerce and >the Lions Club.
`Mr. A�eltan stated be would contact sdneone on the Fridtey Jaycees and make them
ati�re o� the hear-ing. '
4. OTNER BUSItiESS:
Mr. Ha�nernik stated he w�outd like to give #he Gc�issioners an overview of the
status o€ #Me co�ttamination at FMC. There are two sites where;there has been
seme �umpie� 9n #he pas�--one is the FMG property, a�nd one is tF�e Navy property.
FMC has doe�e a]�t of investigating into what has gvne on and t�iey haven't been
ab3e to find tuo �uany things. They found ah,�ut lj2' dozen barrels, most con-
taining paint slt�dge but no Grichloroethy1eng. Fhey driTled some moni:torircg we17s
fn the 40-100 ft; range and at�ly one weli st�ws a►ty,significant amaunt of
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� a press r�#�� on their ftndings,
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1983 PA6E 7
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
HUMAN RESOURCES COhMISSION
MEETIN6
FEBRUARY 16, 1983
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson 600dspeed called the February 16, 1983, Human Resources Commission
mneting to order at 7:35 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Brian Goodspeed, Peter Treuenfels, Jayne Nob1e
Members Absent: Mary van Dan, Lynn Boergerhoff
Others Present: Kent Hill, Economic Development Assistant
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MOTION BY MR. TREUENFEIS, SECONDED BY MS. NOBLE� TO APPRDVE TXE JANUARY 27� I983,
HUMAN RESIXJRCES COMMISSIQN/COMMUNITY DEVEIAPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON R VOICE YOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GOODSPEED DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. DISCUSSION AND EVALUATION OF 1983 WORK PLAN:
Mr. Treuenfels stated one major area under "Human Rights" would be to get the
No-Fault Grievance Procedure committee off the ground. He stated he had contacted
the person who is in charge of training local No-Fault Grievance Procedure
committees. Earlier, the question had been: What is going to happen to the
policy at the State Department of Human Rights now that there is a new canmissioner?
The Human Resources Comnission had held off in d�ing any publicizing for members
for a committee in Fridley until they had a clear idea of the direction the new
commissioner would take.
Mr. Treuenfels stated the word is that the new commissioner is very much in favor
of local grieva�ce comnittees, realizes the caseload is too heavy for the State
to handle and handle effectively, and that they desperately need local grievance
cortmittees to help reduce the caseload. Even though there had been ta7k about
sane budget cuts which would have cut these training programs, the State Depart-
ment of Human Rights has changed its mind and is proposing that cortmunities go
ahead with forming the comnittees. It sounded like training programs would go
on on a regular schedule,
Mr. Goodspeed stated Ms, van Dan indicated she would take the area of "volunteerism",
She had been unable to attend this meeting.
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 16, 1983 PAGE 2
Mr. Goodspeed stated he was looking into rehab, particularly in the area of low
interest loans for commercial rehab (an item recanmended for CDBG funding by
the Human Resources Comnission and Community Development Commission)--conducting
a study to see if businesses would be interested in borrowing low interest money
for rehab, on the assumption that if businesses were interested, the Human Resources
Camnission would recanmend to City Council that money be obtained through some
means, such as CDBG funding, to start such a program. '
Mr. Treuenfels stated this could be a worthwhile project and one they should look
into.
Mr. Goodspeed asked how a loan canpany could be set up and who would decide which
businesses would be a good risk.
Mr. Hill stated there were a coup7e of different ways this could be set up. One
way would be similar to the human services program as far as setting up some kind
of point system. The Human Resources Commission would be responsible for receiving
all the applications, based on some type of point system, refer them to a bank;
or have the applicants go to the bank and have a loan officer who would be in
charge of administration of the loan program 6ring eligible applicants back to the
Comnission.
Mr. Hill stated the Community Development Comnission is 31so looking at the possi-
bility of setting up a local develop�nt corporation. If this happened, the
Human Resources Comission could use that type of organization for the administra-
tion of any type of loan program that might be set up in the future.
Mr. Hill stated the transportation study brought up by Mr. Boergerhoff at the
last meetinq was something that shouid be looked at as a possibility in the
future--what has been done in the metropolitan area and in the suburban areas,
specifically the north suburban areas.
Mr. Treuenfels stated the point made at the January 27th meeting was that trans-
portation involves more than just Fridley, and that is why Mr. Boergerhoff
suggested contacting the neighboring cor�anunities to discuss it with them.
Mr. Treuenfels stated he felt that in most suburban canmunities, there are
exce]]ent connections between the suburb and the downtown area, but relatively
few cross connections between suburbs. This might be something for the Commission
to look into. There could possibly be a need for people to get to specific areas--
shopping, entertainment, churches, canmunity colleges, etc.
Mr. Treuenfels stated the Comnission may want to take a look at civilian defense--
looking at realistic suggestions and alternatives for civil defense in the
community.
Mr. Hill stated a valuabie resource would be through Jim Hili, Public Safety
Director, who works with the Civil Defense program,
Mr. Treuenfels stated that if there is a realistic plan, the Comnission cauld
write up a summary to be published in the Fridley city newsletter.
HUPIAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 16, 1983 PAGE 3
Mr. Hill stated they should also include natural disasters such as tornadoes.
Mr. Hill stated an objective the Canmission had last year was assessing day care
�acilities. Did the Commission want to take another look at this for 1983?
Ms. Noble stated this was an area of interest to her. She stated that even
though she was not continuing as a corrmission member, if she'had the opportunity
to find out any new information, she would pass it on to the Comnission.
Mr. Hill stated sane areas the Commission might want to explore that are somewhat
�ew in providing day care are some of the local service organizations (Chamber of
Comnerce, Jaycees, Lions Club, Kiwanis Club) when these organizations are looking
for comnunity projects or putting money behind community projects.
Mr. Hill asked if there were any areas for the disabled the Commission would
want to look into. Last year, the Commission concentrated on the area of accessi-
bility for the disabled, but there are a number of other areas; for example,
employment, education, etc.
Mr. Treuenfels stated it could be put on the work plan to see if there is any
interest in pursuing something more in the area of the disabled,
Mr. Treuenfels stated the Commission should continue to review and keep abreast
of the Affirmative Action Program in the City of Fridley.
Mr. Hill stated "communications" was another goal that would be ongoing. This
year there may be a need for additional input from the commissions to encourage
city officials to be more visible to the public.
Mr. Treuenfels stated he had a copy of "Guidelines for Funding Proposals" developed
by Dist. #14 Community Schools Advisory Council. He would 7ike the Commission to
look at these procedures and see if there were any areas the Comnission might have
overlooked in their own funding guidelines or if any changes shouid be made.
Mr. Hill stated the Canmission should have a formal work plan written sometime in
March so they could present it to the City Council at a conference meeting at the
end of March.
Mr. Goodspeed stated that if there were any prospective new commissioners, even
though they are not formally a part of the Commission until April, he would like
to invite them to the March meeting so they could get in on the work plan prepara-
tion. Ne stated it had been very helpful for him caning in as a new canmissioner
to attend an earlier meeting.
2. DISCUSSION OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK 6RAN7 MONIES - 1983 AND 1983:
Mr. Hill stated the recorcmendations made by the Human Resources Corrmission and
Community Development Commission would go to the City Council on Feb. 28.
He stated the Carimission members may want to attend that meeting. Mr. Boardman
then has until March 1 to submit the app7ications to Anoka County for the disburse-
ment of those funds.
HUMAN RESOURCES CO�MISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 16, 1983 PAGE 4
Mr. Treuenfels stated that about a week ago, he was told that the Community
Schools Advisory Council was told that the Human Resources Comnission had already
alTocated $4,000 to Community Education. The money was apparently to be used
for a part-time staff person for the senior citizen program. Mr: Treuenfels stated
he was really surprised when he heard about this. He had called Mr. Myhra, who
was also surprised. Mr. Treuenfels stated he had contacted Mr. Boardman and was
informed no such money had been allocated. '
Mr. Hill stated that about six months ago, the City Councii made a donation out
of the General Fund to the Comnunity Education center. He believed the donation
was about $4-5,000. It did not come from CDBG monies or from the Human Resources
Cor.mission but from the City of Fridiey. He stated he vrould verify this informa-
tion for the next meeting,
Mr. Treuenfels stated he would appreciate that and asked Mr.Hi7] to pass this
information on to Mr. Myhra.
3. OTHER BllSINESS:
a, Election of Yice-Chairperson
MOTZON BY MR. TREUENFELS, SECONDED BY MS. NOBI,E� TO ELECT LYNN BOERGERNOFF
TO SERVE AS VICE-CHAZRPERSON FOR THE REMAINSNG MONTHS OF XZS TERM.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING RYE� CHAIRPERSON GOODSPEED DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNRNIMOUSLY.
b, Fridley Chamber of Corimerece Progress Dinner
Ms. Noble stated tfie fridley Chamber of Commerce's Progress Dinner was
5at., Mar. 5, 6:00 p.m., at Jax Cafe. Cost is $22.50/person. She stated
Pat Miles will be the guest speaker, She stated it is open to the public,
and she would like to invite the Commission members to attend.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MS. NOBLE� SECONDED 8Y MR. TREUENFEIS� PO ADJOURN THE MEETING. UPON A
VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GOODSP&ED DECLARED THE FEB, I6� 1983,
HUMAN RESIXIRCES COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9zI5 P.M.
Respectfully su_�
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Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
MEETING �
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FEBRUARY 17, 1983
CALL TO ORDER:
Lhairperson Commers called the February 17, 1983, Housing 6 Redeveloprient
Authority meeting to order at 7:45 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Larry Comners, Elmars Prieditis, Carolyn Svendsen
Members Absent: Duane Prairie, Walter Rasmussen
Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
Ed Hamernik, Councilman
Craig Ekberg
Mrs. Erland Ekberg, �r., 2140 Squire Trail, Golden Valley
(See attached list)
APPROUAL OF JANUARY 13, 1983, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES:
MOmSON BY AII2. PRZEDITIS, SECONDED BY MS. SVENDSEN� TO APPROVE THE JAN. 13, 2983,
XOUSZNG 6 REDEVEIAPMENT AUTHORITY MZNUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED TXE MOTZON
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
I. MOORE IAKE DISTRICT
A. Condo Project (Hearing for HRA Consideration)
(Memo N83-11 from Executive Director)
Mr. Cortmers asked Mr. Boardman to give a brief update of what has taken
place since the public hearing on Dec. 9, 1982. He would also like
Mr. Boardman to give a brief sumnary of the project itself.
Mr. Boardman indicated the tax increment district on the map. He stated
several things were looked at in the establishment of a tax increment
district. First of all, there are extreme traffic problems at the inter-
section of 01d Central and Highway 65. plus a great deal of traffic that
is being generated along Old Central due to the connection with Highway 65
and the industries north of this area. With the tax increment district,
the City is looking at the possibility of trying to divert Old Central
traffic to Highway 65 which would call for sane intersection modifications.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, FEBRUARY 17 1983 PAGE 2
Mr. Boardman stated another thing that would have to be done in conjunc-
tion with the development of the drive-in property would be the inter-
section modification at Old Central and Highway 65 to create an easier
flow of traffic up Old Central. Another reason for the estabtishment
of the tax increment district is the draina9e and clean-up of Moore Lake.
The clean-up is very expensive. EPA monies have been put into it, but
there also has to be sane matching city monies. The reasoning behind
a tax increment district is the development will pay for the tax improve-
ments within the district.
Mr. Boardman stated Mr, Erland Ekberg, who is the developer, made a
proposal at the Dec. 9, 1982, HRA meetinq, to put in two 12-story condo-
minium towers, four units per floor, approx. 1,500 sq. ft. per unit. The
towers, in conjunction with the overall project, would be an approx.
$15 miTlion project. The proposed stte Mr. Ekberg had selected was the
site which included seven property owners, a vacant property, and part
of a cortmerciai property to the north.
Mr. Boardman stated there was a lot of discussion at the Dec. 9 meeting.
The suggestion was made at the meeting that a neighborhood committee
be formed to sit down with the HRA and the developer to see if any com-
promises could be made.
Mr, Boardman stated that at the first meet�ng on Jan. 4 with the neighbor-
hood, approximately 12-13 people were in attendance. At the meeting, the
people indicated that if the project was moved north of the property
owners, at least the acquisition of the property would be feasible. How-
ever, there were still questions about access and hei9ht of the towers.
Mr, Boardman stated Mr. Ekberg did take a look at the recomnendations
the neighborhood committee suggested, looked at the soil problems that
would be entailed in moving the project to the north, and came back with
a proposal that suggested leaving three houses, but still taking the
Dan Nelson property and one other property to the north. Since this was
not the suggested change made at the Jan. 4th meeting, it was necessary
to go back to the neighborhood committee with this proposed change. That
was done on Feb. 9. At that meeting, the committee was unwilling to look
at the developer's change as a canpromise and stated there was no com-
promise if the project could not be moved north.
Mr. Boardman stated he had a conversation with Mr. Ekberg that day, and
Mr. Ekberg stated that with sane assistance from the HRA for soil correc-
tion and sane slight modifications in the direction Of the buildings, he
felt he probably could move the project to the north. It would be north
of the line the neighborhood committee suggested on Feb. 9, which is
north of the Nelson's property; however, it would still take the vacant
property and the property owned by Scott Kohanek. Mr. Ekberg still feels
it is imperative to the project to have access onto Old Central. As far
as assistance fran the HRA, that has not 6een discussed.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, FEBRUARY 17L 1983 PAGE 3
Mr. Scott Kohanek stated he is the property owner most a�fected, and
he has not been notified about any meetings, other than tihe public hearing
on Dec. 9.
Mr, Boar�nan stated that because of an emergency, Mr. Ekberg could not
be at the meeting; however, his wife and son were representing the
project.
Mr. Craig Ekberg stated he had met that day with his father who briefly
went over the project. He stated it is basica)ly as Mr. Boardman has
outlined--moving the towers to the north and shifting the direction of
the towers approx. 15� to the snuth to get a view over the lake.
Mr. Boardman stated there would have to be some further exploration of
the soil in that area. They do have some soil borings in there, and he
thought there would have to be some soil correction, He did not feel the
soil correction would jeopardize the project or take all the tax incre-
ment generated from the project.
Mr. Commers stated it might be premature to decide on a right of develop-
ment at this time, because they do not know all the facts with respect
to assistance and soil correction. Was it possible the project might
not be feasible?
Mr. Boardman stated it was possible, but he would doubt it with this
kind of project. It is a$15 million project and will generate consider-
able amount of tax increment. If the HRA does give a right of develop-
ment, it should be a conditional right of development until these thinqs
could be brought back for approval by the HRA. Considerable work is �
going to have to be done before the NRA can give a formal riqht of
development.
Mr. Commers stated they would open the hearing up for canments from the
audie�ce. He stated he would like saneone who was present at the Feb, 9
neighDorhood meeting to present his/her understanding of what transpired
with the developer,
Ms. Jackie Lentz, 6053 Central Ave., stated Mr. Boardman had outlined
the meeting very well. Besides the question of the properties being
razed, there was still a lot of concern about the height of the buildings
and the access onto Old Central. One thing that was mentioned to
Mr. Boardman at one of the meetings was that, if indeed the proposal was
moved to the north, then those people who would be subsequently affected
should be notified. She did not know if that was done.
Mr. Boardman stated the primary person who wonld be affected from the
proposal being moved to the north was Max Saliterman and he has been
contacted. The property to the east is Tom Brickner's property, and
Mr. Brickner has indicated his support of the project.
HOUSING 6 REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, FEBRUARY 17, 1983 PAGE 4
Ms. Lentz stated that, to her knowledge, Mr. Kohanek was not at either
neighborhood meeting. How that had happened, she did not know.
Mr. Dan Nelson stated he was the property owner of the site in question,
He stated they have been discussing the pros and cons of this project
since the Dec. 9th meeting. He stated City Staff keeps reviewing the
tax structure, the dollars, etc., however, the citizens are not only
looking at the tax structure, but what the pride of ownership, aesthetics,
etc., mean to them, In order to get a handle on the tax dollar, he had
taken it upon himsetf to get some facts and figures from City Hall. He
would like to present these figures at this time.
Mr,Nelson stated Fridley has a population of 30,D00 people. In the
1983 city budget, it is going to cost $6,307,b59 to run the city, and
the cost to run the city per person is $210. The average number of
persons per family in Fridley is 2.8 persons. 7aking the population of
30,OOD and dividing it by 2.8 persons per family, he came up with
i0,714 taxable units.
Mr. Ne)son stated he was now going to talk about the $150,D00 valuation
which was the average cost of each condo unit. The homestead tax on
$750,OD0 valuation is $3,OOD. Ninety-six units X$3,ODD brings in a
gross tax increase of $288,000. By having 96 units and 2.8 persons per
unit, the population in Fridley will be increased by 268.8 persons.
Taking that number and multiplying the cost per person of $210, it is
going to cost the City $56,448 to govern the additional people living
in the condominiums. Taking the gross tax and subtracting the cost of
governing the people, he got an adjusted gain in the tax of only
$231,552.
Mr. Nelson stated epproximately 10 acres of land is involved in this
project. Using 3 homes per acre = 30 hanes. In keeping with the
$150,000 valuation, 30 X$3,000 (homestead tax) brings about a tax
increase at that point of $90,000. By having homes in there, it would
increase the populati�n by only 84, which is less than 1/3 of the pop-
ulation the condos would bring. The cost of governing the 84 people
would be $17,640. Taking the gross of E90,000 and subtracting the
cost of governing the people of $17,64D equals a net gain in taxes of
a72,360. Going back to the adjusted tax on the condo of $231,552 minus
the net gain of $72,360 canes up with $159,192 in increased taxes fran
the condo. That amounts to only 1/4 of 1% of the city budget. Taking
that increase and dividing it by the number of units in the City of
Fridiey, it comes out to $14.85. Out of that E14.85, the City has to
pay the cost of acquiring the properties which could be very expensive,and
they have to spend money on redirecting the traffic. So, they are
looking at selling their most valuable birthright, home ownership, for
less money that it costs to take a spouse out to dinner, $14.85, and
he did not think it was worth it:
HOUSING b REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, FEBRUARY 17, 1983 PAGE 5
Mr. Comners stated that with the E159,192 in increased t�xes mentioned
by Mr. Nelson, they also had to take into consideration that that
money would be avaitable each year thereafter if the project went through.
Mr. Cortmers asked Mr. Nelson what his feelings were in regard to the
proposat to move the project north of his property.
Mr. Nelson stated when he bought his property and bui7t his house, he
was aware the property north of him was comnercial. In buildinq, he
allowed a barrier of trees and a 6 ft, cyclone fence. He realized he
would have no control over what went in north of him because of the
comnercial zoning, He stated he would rather not see big towers there;
he would rather see private enterprise take over and put in office
buildings or whatever.
Mr. Boardman stated he has done some analysis as far as the generation
of taxes. They must u�derstand that in tax increment, they do get the
captured value over and above the existing tax. The captured value
means the amount of tax tfiat is generated,the amount of tax returned
from the 5tate for homesteed, If this project went in, that taxes that
would be generated per year would be approx. $394,080. That would be
the total tax based on the mill rate in this area. Based on this, tfiey
could sell a little over $3 million worth of bond. They look at the tax
that is generated and base that over the life of that bond which is
generally a 15-yr, bond. That is where they get the money and revenue
that is generated to do the acquisition.
Ms. Barb Reiland, 6068 Woody Lane, asked if the City has looked at the
traffic impact. The proposed driveway for the condo is right across
from Woody Lane, which means it is at the top of a hill and on a curve.
She stated they live just below that. They have had two cars go through
their yard already, and she could not imagine increasing traffic on
Dld Central.
Mr. Boardman stated they are lo�king at trying to eliminate a lot of the
through traffic on Old Central. Right now there are approx. 10-12,000
cars per day on Old Central. The remodeling of the intersection to
the north would divert a lot of that traffic over to Highway 65. He
stated that in looking at any kind o4 driveway entrance, it is best to
have that entrance across fran a regular street intersection so there is
a cross-type intersection. In this location, this was probably the best
intersection for that entrance to be located. If the project is moved
to the north, the best intersection may be further north.
Ms. Reiland asked why they didn't redirect the traffic and make the inter-
section modifications first and then decide what kind of project should
go in.
Mr. 8oardman stated then the question is: �ho pays? They can do the
intersection modification, but if there is no money to pay for the inter-
section, then it has to be assessed against the property owners. One of
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the purposes of setting up a tax increment district is because there are
problems. With development in the area, they are going to try to take
care of some of these problems, The tax increment district is set up as
a possibility for sane public improvements due to development, With this
type of development, they could start doing some of the things that need
to be done, but they cannot do anything initially until they have some
development.
Mr. Bailer Tiller. 1535 Gardena Ave., stated there should be no development
unless it has all been planned out ahead of time. The people who live in
this area are the most important of al). They are the peop7e who have to
put up with this development, and they should have the say as to whether
it goes in or not.
Mr. Charles Ross, 5895 Central Ave., stated as he listened to this project
proposal, he heard about people befng moved out of their homes and the
need to develop profitable revenue. When the City talks about diverting
traffic, aren`t they going to have to have another hearing process like
they are having now? Whose yard are they going to go through? First,
they create the monster and then, because there is a traffic probiem
because of it, they find they have to divert traffic. If the City is going
to have to divert traffic when they have already acknowledged an existing
traffic problem on Old Central, why not dfvert the traffic first and then
build something that fits within the existing comnunity?
Mr, Ross stated this is a very large project. He felt it was unfortunate
that Mr. Ekberg did not have the courtesy to show up and speak for himself.
Mr. Canmers stated they do recognize there is a traffic problem already
in existence on Old Central. In order to do something about it, they
need some monies to start making those modifications.
Ms, Lois Adoiphson, 6131 Woody Lane, stated she works for Bermel Smaby
Realtors. She is in the new home and condominium division of Bermel
Smaby. She has done sane successful projects, so she has expertise in this
area. She had the following questions: Has there been a feasibility
study done on the marketability of this project? How many taxpayers in
fridley now have an assessed home value of over $150,OOD? How many
successful projects has Mr. Ekberg accanplished or completed? Does the
contractor have either building financina or end financing established
on this project? What happens if the HRA approves the project, the
homes are taken, the traffic diverted, and then the project doesn't
work? What wi71 go in on that property?
Mr. Boardman stated no hanes will be taken or traffic diverted unti7
there are firm financial cortmitments on the development bf those units
and firm end loan financing. That wouTd be mandatory, and the HRA would
not take any action unless that happened. Mr. Ekbert has met with real
estate people a�d he apparently feels there is a lot of interest in the
sale of these units.
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Ms. Adolphson stated she did not feel there was a marke� for $150,000
units at this location in Fridley. She was against the project. It
would ruin her view, and there was already a traffic problem.
Mr. "Duke" Addicks, Jr., of Pepin. Dayton, Herman, Graham, & Getts,
Attorneys at Law, stated he was hired by Mr. 8 Mrs. Dan Nelson to look
into what is going on, He stated his firm represents both developers
and residents on various proposals. He stated the people are objecting
to giving Mr, Ekberg the right of development without additional informa-
tion, The HRA is a public body and represents not only the present
residents, but also the future residents of Fridley and the future develop-
ment of Fridley. This is a touch decision to make. He would urge the
HRA to think about some of the questions concerninq this proposed develop-
ment.
Mr. Addicks stated that, historically, HRA's were created to provide for
low and moderate incane housing and to assist in the redevelopment of
blighted areas. The power has been expanded over the last few years.
He wondered if it was appropriate for the HRA to pranote expensive
luxury condominiums. He wondered if it was even unlawful to do so.
He stated there will certainly be tax increment resulting fran this
development or whatever deve7opment eventually goes in this area, and
some of it can be used to clean up the lake and improve traffic flow.
But the principle purpose of the HRA is to assist in the development
and not to worry about clean-up or traffic problems.
Mr. Addicks stated there is probably a rezoning involved, modificatian
of existing districts, and an environmental assessment process because
of the proximiiy to the lake. In other words, there are quite a few
hurdles the developer will have to handle even if the HRA gives him
the right of development. For these reasons, Mr. Nelson is askinq for
a delay in the decision to give a right of development an�i has asked
that City Staff be instructed to find out more about what the developer
really intends, his ability to follow through on a project, and how
serious he really is with this proposal. Mr, Addicks stated he felt
the HRA should not make a decision without more information.
Mr, Ray McAfee, 1360 Hillcrest Dr., stated that since the Dec. 9th
meeting, all the developer has done is move this monster further north.
He felt that 95% and perhaps 100% of the people in the audience would
like to see this thing go back to Golden Valley. He did not think a
condominium like this fit into the City of Fridley, because of the
height. The buildings would be higher than the Fridley water tower.
Mr. Scott Kohanek, 6116 Central Ave., stated he has owned his property
since 1976, He likes his home and would like to keep it. He was
really upset about the City's communication system. It seems there
were a couple of neighborhood meetings he was never notified of; conse-
quently, the project was moved further north to inc7ude his hane and his
property. He stated that did not make him very happy. He stated
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING fEBRUARY 17 1983 PAGE 6
Mr. Nelson's lawyer had mentioned there were a toi of hurdles ahead for
the developer. Mr, Kohanek stated he was going to be the toughest
and biggest hurdle of them all.
Mr. Yoava Klucsar, 1337 Hillcrest Dr., stated this pr�perty would need
rezoning. When people buy a house, it is the biggest investment they
make in a lifetime. All these neighbors do not want this project, so
why is the City wasting their time.
Mr, Mel Nelson, 980 Hackmann Circle, stated Mr, Boardman had talked
about homestead tax returns. If he had been listening to the leqislature
that is now in session, he woutd know that the peopTe may not end up
with any homestead credits. Mr. Boardman sh�uldn't use that point in
bringing out any possibility of returns to the tax structure.
Mr. Jeff Hagen, 5980 Gardena Lane, asked if there were any alternatives
to this project,
Mr. Boardman stated there are always alternatives. The Shorewood shop-
ping center has been earmarked as a neighborhood center. Tn develop-
ing an area that is going to support a neighborhood center, the City is
trying to encourage a residential type of development in this area. An
elderly develDpment, sponsored by St. Phillips Church, has been proposed
for the corner of Rice Creek Road and Old Central,
Ms. Elaine Gray, 6062 Central Ave., stated their private homes were
included in the tax increment district so the HRA can come through and
buy and build wherever they choose. She stated she would like to see
their properties removed from the tax increment district as it would
save the HRA alot of headaches. 7hey have invested a lot of money into
their properties. They like the area and the beautiful view. She felt
they have the right to enjoy it more than people in a condominium as
they were there first. She found it hard to believe that Fridley
couldn't survive without this area being developed any more than it is
now. The City can develop in the north area where no one is living.
Mr. Comners closed the public hearing at 9:11 p,m.
Mr. Commers asked Staff's opinion about some of the questions raised
concerning a feasibitity study, whether or not there needs to be an
environmental assessment, and the marketability of these condo units in
this area,
Mr. Boardman stated a11 these areas need to be addressed. He wished
Mr. Ekberg had been at the meeting to answer some of these questions.
He stated they do not have the Shoreline Management Act in Fridley
where these units wou7d be located. Where Mr. Ekberg is proposing
the project is out of the f7o�d plain; therefore, the setbacks rea]]y
don't cane into effect. The size of the project does not require a
mandatory environmental assessment.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING FEBRUARY 17, 7983 ___ PAGE 9
#
Mr. Cortmers asked about the question of soil correction end HRA
- assistance. What has to be done to make that determination and can it
- be done on a preliminary basis?
Mr. Boar�nan stated before any soil correction can be done, Mr. Ekberg
has to have access to the property.
Mr. Prieditis stated it is obvious that a large portion of the neighbor-
ing property owners are totally opposed to this project. He felt maybe
they were just wasting their time in discussing the site problems and
feasibility studies when there is such strong opposition to the develop-
ment, no matter where it is located.
Mr. Comners declared a 15-minute recess at 9:15 p.m. He reconvened the
meeting at 9:30 p.m.
Mr, Commers asked Mr. Boardman what the requirements would be to alter
the tax increment district� to either subtract or add properties.
Mr. Boardman stated the HRA would have to go through the same process
they went through in establishing the district. The HRA wouid have to
make a recamnendation to be approved by the City Council. He would have
to check to see if it would require a pubtic hearing.
MOTION BY MS. SVENASEN, SECONDED HY AII2. PRZEDSTSS� TO GRANT TO EKBERG &
ASSOCIATES, ZNC., A ONE-YEAR RIGNT OF DEVEIAPMENT FOR THE MODRE LAKE
CONDOMZNIUM PRQ7EC2.
Mr. Prieditis stated he thought any project, whether the City or the
HRA is involved, should theoretically do something good for either the
City itself or the people. Seeing such unanimous opposition to this
project, he did not see how this project in its present form could
succeed, and he would like to see this particular request for right of
development dropped.
Ms. Sv�ndsen stated she agreed with Mr. Prieditis. Even though there
were only three HRA mem6ers present, she felt it was important for them
to vote as the homeowners have been waiting a long time for this decision.
Mr. Comners stated he was impressed by sane of the arguments and questions
raised by the people.at this meeting and previous meetings. If this
project is turned dovm, there might be sanething else that would go in on
that site that might make the people even more unhappy than this project.
That property has been slow in developing because it is not prime
property, Unless sane assistance is given to a future developer, it is
probably not going to be developed and wi11 stay off the tax roles.
To that extent, it hurts the whole City of Fridley and not just the
people who live in the irtmediate area.
UPON A VOICE VOTE COltMERS� SVENDSEN� PRZEDITSS� VOTZNG NAY� CHRSRPERSON
COAfHERS DECLARSD TRE MOTION FAIL�D AND THE RIGHT OF DEVEZAPMENT ZS NOT
CRANTED TO EKBERG & ASSOCZATES AT�TRIS TIXE.
HOUSING 6 REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, FEBRUARY 17, 1983 PAGE 10
Mr. Commers thanked everyone for caning. He urged them to continue ta
be aware of the different things that are g�ing on in Fridley. He
apologized for the lack of comnunication; they attempted to give the
best notice they could to the people. He stated the people also have
a duty to stay informed and to be aware of what is taking place.
B. St. Phillips Project (Memo N83-12 from Executive Director)
Mr. Boardman stated St. Phillips is interested in again applying for
202 funds on the property at Rice Creek Road and Old Central, In order
for St. Philiips to submit an application for 202 funding, they will
have to prove to HUD that the land and soil is compactible and is
developable. St. Phillips is concerned that the fill that has been
brought in on the site could create difficulties in their application
to HUD. They feel the fill was the initial reason they were turned down
for 202 funding last year. The fill was placed on the property by the
property owner, The property owner met all the permit requirements;
therefore, the City had to issue the hauling pet^mit.
Mr. Boardman stated that if HUD feels it is necessary, St. Phillips
would like some assurance that the HRA would do some soil compaction
tests. He thought the cost would be approx. $2,000. If the soil is
not compactible or if the fi11 was put over bad soil, it could decrease
the value of the property. He needed sane indication from the HRA prior
to St. Phillips' application for 2D2 funds. He stated he has a meeting
with St. Philiips Human Services, Inc., on Mar, 3.
Mr. Cortmers stated that was difficuit when they really do not know what
the cost wi]1 be.
Mr. Boardman stated he woald do some further investigation on the costs
of soil testing and would also discuss this with St. Phillips. He felt
they should know what the soil is like as it could be helpful in
acquiring the property if the project goes throuqh.
MOTION BY MR. PRIEDITIS, SECONDED BY NR. COMMERS, TO CONTZNUE DISCUSSION
ON THE ST. PHILLIPS PRQ7ECT UNTIL THE NEXT ME£TZNG AND TO SNSTRUCT STAFF
TO GET SOME ESTZMATES ON SOIL TESTING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� COMMERS AND PRIEDITIS VOTING AYE� SVENDSEN ABSTAINING,
CNAIRPERSON COMMEAS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRSED.
C. Letter - Vernon Beck & Associates, Inc. (Drive-in Site)
Mr. Boardman stated he has been working with Vernon Beck & Assoc. and
Northwestern Life Insurance Co. They have shown an interest in being
the developer for the entire drive-in site. Mr. Boardman stated one
of the first things he wanted to know was whether that site was a prime
9te for a hotel development. They are looking at a hotel development
and also peripheral deve7opment in the way of an office development.
HOUSING 6 REDEYELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, FEBRUARY 17, 1983 PAGE 11
Mr. Boardman stated that at his request, Vernon Beck b Asioc. did an
in-house market feasibility study to see if the hotel dev2lopment
- would support a higfi price development. They found tfiat in this
- northeast area, it would support $55/night at this time. That does
not preclude this area fran getting a high class facility. At this
time, most of the hotel developers have their primary emphasis on the
south and southwest, Once that emphasis is fulfilled, they wi11 look
at the northeast area.
Mr. Boardman stated Vernon Beck & Associates' reconrnendation to the HRA
would be to try to develop a strong base (office, office-warehouse
development) on the drive-in site and save a parcel on the corner for
a hotel development. They feel it wi11 happen; it is just a matter of
timing,
Mr, Prieditis stated his main concern would be the traffic and the
difficulties of getting in and out of this site.
Mr. Comners asked if there was any way of doing a traffic feasibility
study in this area.
Mr. Boardman stated the HRA can order a study to be done and pay for it.
It has been recommended t� the City Council that some of the 1983 CDBG
monies be used to do a traffic study in the Moore Lake area. Tfie City
Council will be considering that recortmendation at their Feb. 28 meeting.
Mr. Comners declared the letter fran Eugene H. Hefter, Vernon Beck &
Assoc. dated Jan. 24, 1983, received into the record.
II. CENTER CITY DISTRICT
A. Consideration of Resolution HRA 6-1983 (Petitioning the City of Fridley
for Plaza Improvements for Genter C~ty Phase II Oevelopment)
Mr. Boardman stated that at the last HRA meeting, they had a petition
on the parking lot but forgot to put in a petition for the assessments.
Before the City Council can approve the project and plans for assessments,
this resolution has to be passed by the HRA.
MOTION BY MS. SVENDSEN� SECONDED BY AII2. PRZEDZTIS� TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION NO. HRA 6-2983� RESOLi1TZON PETZTIONZNG THE CITY OF FRIDLEY
FOR PLAZA IMPROVEMENTS FOR CENTER CSTY PNASE ZI DEI�ELOPMENT.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON CC.MIMERS DECLARED TXE
MOTION CARRIED UNANSMWSLY.
B. Information
1. City Council Resolution }}_}gg3
2. City Council Resolution 12-1983
3. Anoka County Correspondence on CDBG
Mr. Boardman stated this was a11 support information for the previous
resolution. No action was needed by the HRA.
tj
III. FINANCIAL
A. Financial Report
Y 17, 7983 __ PAGE
Mr, Boardman stated there is no financial report at this time, They
are just getting their year-end reports in so these should be
available at the March meeting.
B. Check Register
MOTION BY INR. PRIEDITIS, SECONDED BY MS. SVENDSEN, TO RPPROVE THE
CHECK REGISTER DATED FEB. S6� 1983� IN SXE AMOUNS OF 5262�206.42.
UPON A VDICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAZRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRZED UNANIMWSLY.
C. Contract Surtmary dated Feb. 17, 1983, from InterDesign, Inc.
Mr. Commers stated the HRA should have a summary of what their agree-
ment is on payment with InterDesign.
Mr. Boardman stated it is based on the total value of about $356,000.
That c�st includes the plaza area and includes the area around the
office building (that will be assessed to the office building). It
wi11 also include the area along 5th St. The breakdown on all that is
going to be assessed differently. As far as any costs or breakdowns
of architect's fees, it goes with the development of that portion of
the project. Forty per cent of 8% of the overall budget is the archi-
tect's fee. Of that, 90% is construction documents and 10% is biddinq
negotiations. The arChitect is not involved at all in the inspection
process. The City Engineering staff will be doing a7] the inspection
work on the plaza.
Mr. Commers stated he would like a memo on exactly how the performance
is taking place under their contract with InterDesign.
MOTION BY MR. PRSEDITIS, SECONDED BY MS. SVENDSEN� TO APPROVE THE
CONTRACT SUMMRRY DATED FEB. 27� 2983, FROM ZNTERDESZGN�ZNC.
UPON A VOZCE VOT'E, ALL VOTING AYE� CNAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED TNE
MOTION CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY.
Y. OTHER 8U5INESS:
A. Report from Von Klug & Assoc.
Mr. Boardman stated the House of Dragnn in the Fridley Center will
be moving at the end of February. The HRA received a report from
Bill Von Klug on the payment. The House of Dragon is accepting a
payment in lieu of relocation. The payment in lieu of relocation is
$2,500. AttacAed to the report was a list of the fixture appraisals.
There was $6,105 in personal property. Mr. Von Klug is recanmending
that the City draw up a bill of sale in the amount of $6,105 as he
TY MEETING, fEBRUARY 17, 1983 PAGE
felt it was a justifiable figure for a fixed appraisal. FThe House of
Dragon is also entitled to the S2,5D0 for relocation. f
Mr. Boardman stated he had put together for the HRA's information an
"Activity List on AcquisStion/fixtures/Relocation" which gives the
HRA an indication of where they are with all the properties involved
in Phase II.
Mr. Commers stated the HRA has received this "Activity List" and it
should be attached to these minutes for tfie HRA's information,
MOTION BY NS. SVENDSEN� SECONDED BY MR. PRIEDITIS, TO APPROVE TNE
RELOCRTION AND APPRASSAL COSTS FOR NOUSE OF DRAGON SN THE AMWNTS OF
$2,SD0 A.+7D 56,105.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE� CXRIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED TNE
NpTZON CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
B, FISLIC/FDIC Program and 6eneral Reserve Program (Memo N83-14 from
Executive Director)
Mr. Boardman stated there are two possible programs that could be
used to pranote development in the redevelopment districts. One is
the FISLIC/FDIC program which has been used in Minneapolis and Blaine
for multi-family housing. The other program is the General Reserve
Program.
Mr. Comners stated the HRA members should have a chance to review
these programs and discuss them at the next meeting.
Mr. Boardman stated the City Louncil will also be receiviag this
information to see if there is any interest there. If the HRA shows
an interest at their next meeting, Piper, Jaffray, and Mark Haggerty,
who has been involved in the Blaine programs, would be happy to
discuss this with the HRA.
ADJOURNMENT:
MtYlSON SY XR• PRZEDITIS, SECONDED BY MS. SVENDSEN� TO AAJOURN TNE MEETING. UPON
A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CXAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE FEB. 17� 1983,
AOUSING 6 REDEVEIAPMENT AUTXORITY 1KEETIN6 AA70URNED RT 10:45 P.M.
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CALL TO ORDER:
CITY OF FRIDLEY
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION
SPECIAL MEETING
MARCH l� 1983
Chairperson Oquist called the March 1, ]983. special Cammunity Development
Camiission meeting to order at 7:32 p,m.
ROLL CALL:
Mer�bers Present: LeRoy Oquist. Ken Yos. Al Gabel
Members Absent: Carol Fassett
Others Present: Kent Hill. Economic Development Assistant
APPRpVAL OF FEBRUARY 8, 1983, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES:
XO:ZON BY MR. GABEL� SECONDED BY DR. VOS� TO 11PPROVE TXE FEBRUARY 8� 29B3�
COhNUNITY DEVELOPXENT COMNZSSION XINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTIHG AYE� CHAIRPERSOX QUIS2 DECLARED THE PIdlION CARRIED
UNANIIR�USLY.
N
1. OLD BUSINESS:
a. Discuss Goa1s and Objectives of the Comnission
Mr, Hill stated that at their last meeting, the City Council did affirm
they would not be deleting the Comnunity Development Lomnission, and
that the Conurwnity Development Cammission wi11 reaain as a viable
commission. The Carmission now has to cane up with some ideas of things
the Commission would feel comfortable working on for the next year and
present these ideas to the City Council in late March/early April.
Mr. Hill stated the City Council would like the Commission to review the
"Animal Control Ordinance" and make recommendations through the Planning
Commission to City touncil. From time to time� the City Louncil will be
directing items such as this to the Community Development Commission.
Mr. Hill stated that at the last meeting. the Commission went over their
1982 work plan� ahat was done and what things might still need to be done
in 1983. They also "brainstormed" sane ideas for an 1983 work plan.
Mr. Oquist stated he still felt defining the Commission's goals and
objectives was a very difficult task. He thought the City Council should
be able to tel] the Carmission the kinds of things the City Council feels
need to be ]ooked at in the City of Fridley. What are the areas that
COFMUNITY DEVELOPMENT LOMM155ION SPECIAL MEETING. MARCH lt 1983 PAGE 2
need to be concentrated on in the City of Fridleyl ,Are there some problem
. areas where the Comnission could concentrate their efforts? He felt the
goals and objectives are really going to need to De narrowed down.
Or. Yos stated he was more interested in the area of economic development-
smaTi businesses because of the strip development that is deteriorating
in the City. Last month they talked about a closer relationship with the
Chamber of Commerce. being a liaison between the small Dusinesses and the
community. TAere was some disCUSSion about an econanic deveiopment corpor-
atian concept, He was interested in that concept because he has seen it work
Dr. Vos stated another thirtg discussed was having combined meetings with
some of the other carmissions when there are issues that overlap,
Mr, Hill stated he felt there were three areas of irrmediate concern in
the City of Fridley that the Cortmission could possibly look at:
1, housing--cost and availability
2, economic development--Most small businesses in the City are in
older facitities. What can the City do as far as maintaining
those facilities or possibly relocating the businesses that
are in tax increment districts?
3. transportation within the Lity (The Human Resources Comnission
rrill be looking at the transportation issue.)
Mr. Hill stated if the Cartnission is interested in fair housin9 practices,
along the lines of the work the Commission did regardina "truth-in-housinq",
the Commission might want to hoid seminars with la al realtcrs and pros-
pective home buyers interested in coming into the City of Fridley. They
might want to target the low and moderate incane group and provide informa-
tion to those people.
Dr. Vos stated he would �tike to try the "truth-in-housing" program again
and try to find out what the condition of Lhe housing stock is in the
City of Fridley.
Mr. Oquist stated he would also be interested in pursuing it again.
Mr. Hill stated that regarding the older housing stock in the City, there
are certain areas in Fridley. such as Riverview Heights and other areas
along the river. where people could use some assistance as far as low
interest loans to maintain their hanes. However. the Other philosophy is
that since the city is a public Corporation as such. how much should they
be involved in private funding or private financiat inatters?
Mr. Oquist stated that his thought a1so. He questioned how much govern-
ment should get fnvolved in the private sector.
COM�IUNITY DEYELOPMENT COMM155ION SPECIAL MEETIN6, MARLH 1. 1983 PA6E 3
Mr. Hill stated that i4 the Comnission members felt uncanfortable with
- the financing end. from an educational point of view. they could have
informational seminars or at least have information that could be
distributed on low cost ways to maintain hanes as far as electrical,
plumbing� exterior repairs. energy retrofitting, etc.
Dr. Vos suggested the possiDility of conducting seminars through
Comnunity Education.
Mr. Oquist stated that at the last meeting, Mr, Hill had suggested the
Cortmission could serve as a resource in helping the sma11 business people
get additiona] monies for the purpose of bringing property and buildings
up to code. He asked how a commission could do this.
Mr. Hill stated it could be approached through the Small Business Admini-
stration which has money available to support small businesses, either in
opening or maintaining the business. The Cottmission could act as a
resource to the smatl business person in providing information. The Sma11
Business Administration also gives a number of seminars each week on book-
keeping practices, tnventory control, payroll. etc. The Comnission could
develop an educational brochure that would have resource information to
the people interested in opening a business in Fridley.
Mr. Hill stated .if the Commission wanted to get involved in 2he funding
aspect (although he was not sure that wou)d be a viable aspect), they could
look at the administration of CDBG monies for small business loans.
Dr. Vos stated another possibility rrould be starting a dialogue discussion .
with the ChamEer of Comeerce to search out needs as we)1 as canmon concerns
in the business community.
Mr. Hill stated the City is in the process of developing a brochure that is
specifically for developers caning into the community.
Mr. Oquist stated the Comhission should definitely review that brochure
when it is completed Dy Staff.
Mr. Hill stated the Commission should probably inc)ude the "neighhorhood
concept" in their rrork plan as the City Counci] is giving them that
direction again. Staff has been nprking on the definition of neiqhbor-
hoods. what kinds of signages should be used� etc.
Mr. Gabel stated signage is going to be expensive. and he did not think
too many people rrould be in favor of neighborhood signs. He stated fie
would be interested in knowing the approximate costs for staff time,
sign costs, and the installatio� and maintenance of signs.
Mr. Oquist stated the Camiission should probabty took at the neighborhood
concept again so they can get some input into the program. He stated one
idea would be to identify a neighborhood. send out letters to the people
in that neighborhood telling them the City is interested in a neighborhood
concept, and invite them to a meeting to discuss it. It would be one way
of getting input from the people if there is any interest out there.
COMMUNITY DEYELOPMENT LOIR�IISSION SPECIAL MEETING, MARCH 1� 1983 PAGE 4
Dr. Vos stated he liked that idea� because it would give the Commission
an opportunity to get input and talk directly to Lhe people.
Mr. Oquist stated it would De interesting to know what other "community
development commissions" do in other comnunities similar in size to
fridley (first-ring communities). Mhat needs do these commissions address?
He kept caning back to the question: Is there something that really needs
attention that isn't being addressed at this time?
Mr, Gabel stated he would be interested in attending a"comnunity develop-
ment camiission" meeting in another carmunity.
Mr, Hill stated he would get information from other suburbs regarding their
cartnission process.
Mr. Oquist stated there may be another name for this comnission that would
make more sense and would narrow the scope. Maybe there should be a
cortmission that just reviews ordinances on a monthly basis.
Mr, Hil] stated the City has a]egat intern at this point in time whose
job is to update all the ordinances in the City of Fridley fran an enforece-
ment point of view. However� the problen with that is ihere is n� public
input. A possibility would be for the staff to review the ordinances, do
the writing, and then bring them throt�gh the camiission process for review
and carments and recommendations to City Council.
Mr. Hi11 stated one issue the City is becoming involved
with the ciosed school buiidings. A cortmittee has been
comnunity individuals in School Dist. /14, Bill Deblon
liaison at this time.
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Mr. Oquist stated just recently there v� s a proposal to put in two 12-story
luxury condominiuns by Moore Lake. Because of all the citizen opposition�
the proposal was turned down. He stated some time the Carmission should
discuss what is really good for the City of Fridley. even if it means
stepping on some toes. Al1 that is ever discussed is housing f�r the low
and moderate income people, but maybe, from a carmunity development point
of view, they need to look nt the other side--9etting some attractive
housing into the carmunity as well. Even though the two 12-story luxury
condominiums might not have been the right project for that area, he felt
they had lost a valuable opportunity for that type of housing.
b. Discuss 1983 Work P]nn
The Comnission members developed the following work plan in rough draft
form. .
GOALS
_ Co►ununity Developoent Block 6rants - to ensure effective allocation
of CDBG funds.
COM4UNITY DEVELOPMENT COFMISSION SPECIAL MEETING, MARCH 1 1983 PAGE 5
- Housing - To ensure adequate housing opportunities for the residents
' of Fridley,
a. To provide for the upgrading of existing houses (truth-in-
housing)
b. Education (Carmunity Education)
- Economic Development - To ensure effective cortmunication with small
businesses in Fridley.
a. To develop an educational brochure for use by small businesses.
b. To begin a dialogue discussion with the Chamber of Commerce to
search out needs as well as comm�n concerns in the business
community.
c. To review any brochures regarding economic development.
- Ordinance Review - To ensure adequate public input into city ordinances
n, To review and make recomnendations on ordinance changes
_ Neighborhood Concept
Mr. Hill stated he would put this into work plan form for the Commission
to review at their regular meeiing on March 8.
2. NEW BUSI�JESS:
a. Animal Control Ordinance
Mr. Hill stated that. as he had mentioned earlier, the City Council would
like the Cortenunity Development Comnission to review and make recomnendations
on the Animal Control Ordinance.
MOTION BY IYR, GABEL, SECONDED BY DR, YOS� TO RECENE TNE ANIMAL CONTROL
ORDINRNCE. -
UPON A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTING aYS� CNAIRPERSON OpUIST DECIARED TXE
NOTION CARRIED UNANIMWSLY.
Mr. Oquist stated the Commission members should review this ordinance
and be prepared to discuss it at the March 8th meeting.
3. OTHER BUSINESS:
Mr. Qquist stated the Commission members were very concerned about the possi-
bility of the City Council not appointing anyone to fill the vacancy on the
Camnission. If the Commission is going to continue as a viable commission,
it is important that vacancy be filled.
COrt4UNITM DEVEIOPMENT COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING MARCH 1 1983 PA6E 6
AOJOURNMEN�•
MOTION BY L1R, VOS, SECONDED BY M2. GABEL, TO AA70URH TXE MBETINC. UPON A VOICE
YOTE� ALL VOTZHG AYE, CXAIRPERSON OpU7ST DECLARED THE NARCH 1� 2983� SPECIAL
Ct�llMJNITY DE[�ELOPNENT CONMISSION MESTING AATOURNED AT 9r30 P.M.
Respectfully submi ted,
ce.
yn Saba
Recording Secretary
COt•1MUt�ITY D�VELOPMEi'af COMMISSION
WORKPLAN 19�3
COMMISSIONERS:
Le Roy Oquist, Chairman
Kenneth Yos, Yice Chairman
Alfred Gabel
Carol Fassett
CITY STAfF:
Kent Hill
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION
MEETING
MARLH 3. 1983
CALL TO OROER:
Chairperson 600dspeed called the March 3. 1983, Human Resources Cammission
�eeting to order at 7:39 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Menbers Present: Brian Goodspeed, Lynn Boergerhoff. Peter Treuenfels.
Mary van Dan� Jayne Noble
Meribers ADsent: None
Others Present: Kent Hill. Economic Developnent Assistant
APPROVAL OF FEBRUARY 16. 1983. HUMAN RESOURCES COhMISSTON MINUTES:
MOTIDN BY MR. TREVENFELS� SECONDED BY NS. VAN D11N� 4'D 11PpROVE TXE FEB. 16, 1983,
BUNAN RE50URCES COMMISSION MZNUTES.
Ms. No61e indicated the following change should be made on page 3. Item N2:
"Distussion of CDBG Monies- 1983 and 1983" should be changed to "Discussion of
CDBG Monies - 1982 and 1983".
UPON E VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING 11YE� CIIAIRPERSON COOASPEED DECLARED ?NE XOTION
CARRIED UNANIXDUSLY,
AVPROYAL OF AGENDA:
NOTION BY lIIt. TREUENFBLS, SECONDED BY NS, V.1N Ai4N� 41D appROVE THE AGENDA WIPH
THE CIlANGE TllAT ITEN E-•DISCUSS 1983 WQRKpInL1V^ BECAYE STEM A.
UPON A YOICE VOTE� .1LL VOTINC AYE, CNAIRPERSON COODSPEED DECIARED THE MOTZON
CARRIED UNANZMpUSLY.
l. OLD BUSINESS:
a. Oiscuss 1983 Workplan
Mr. 600dspeed distributed copies of his part of the rvorkplan. His goal
under Hianan Services was "To promote greater mo6ility and independence
for persons with disa6iitties in our camwnity" with the objective to
create and promote a 1aa1 government. low interest loan program for
civically-needed purposes.
HUMAN RESOIJRCES C�IMISSION MEETINB, MARCH 3, 1983 PAGE 2
Mr. 600dspeed stated that at the last Commissio� meeting. Mr. Hill had
stated one possible way of setting up a loan program would De to have a
loan officer of a Dank be in charge of the administration of the program.
Mr. Goodspeed stated he Aad discussed this rith Jahn 6argaro, Loan Officer
and Asst, Yice President of fridtey State Bank, Mr. 6argaro had never
heard of a bank cooperating with a city in any kind of lending program.
Mr. 6argaro had suggested that if the City did sLart such a program� the
bank coutd Aold the money. do the credit investigations. etc.� in return
for the interest on the money. If it Mas low interest, 7-S�. Mr. Gargaro
thought that would be fair; however. Mr. Gargaro did not think such a
program would work. He be]ieved no business person woutd look at this
type of loan situation and feel that by spending E3,000 to make the
business excessible, the business would get an increase of E3.000 fran
disabled customers. Mr. Gargaro fe]t it would be a bad econanic situation
and he did not think any business person would borrow money at any interest
rate to do that.
Mr. Goodspeed stated Mr. Gargaro had also suggested that a more reasonable
approach would be to give businesses money for retrofitting. possibly
through matching funds. rather than Lhrough low interest ]oans.
Mr. 7reuenfels stated that maybe the Comnission should look at what use
would be made of such a tending program. They tould draft a questionnaire
to be sent out to businesses to see if there was any interest. If the
questionnaire would be too costly to mail. perhaps it would be more appro-
priate for the Carmission members to make teiephone cal�s Lo scientifical)y
selected businesses.
Mr. Hill stated the City is always having to talk to people about land-
scaping and general maintenance of their businesses. People are not too
happy about that, and he could see how making a business accessible to the
disabled would have very low priority. especielty if they have few disabled
customers. • ' '
MOTION 8Y lIIt. TREUENFELS� SECONDED BY MS. YAN L1AN� TO APPROVE THE XUMAN
SERVICES COAL� "TO PRC1f10TE CREATER IfOBZLITY AJ1'D ZNDEPENDENCE FOR PERSONS
I�STH DSSABILITSES IN OUR CCYYlNNITY�' AS PART OF T8E 29B3 WORKPLAN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTINC AYE� CfL►IRPERSGN' GDODSPEED DECLARED TXE
MOTIGW CRRRIED UNANINOOSLY.
Ms. van Oan distrib�ted copies of her part of the workplan. Her goal
under Human Services was "To promote the avaitabi7ity of essentiat human
resources to all persons in the camwnity" v►ith the objective to research
the need for a camwnity-wide volunteer program.
MOTION BY XS. VAN DAN, SEC�D7JDED BY lQt. !'REUENFELS, SO APPROVE THE HUNAN
SSRVICES GOAL, `TO PRO!lOTE TNE AVAILABILTTY OF ESSENTIAL BUfIRN RESOURCES
110 ALL PERSONS IN TXE CQNMJNITY�" 11S PART PF TBE 1983 WORKPLAN.
UPON 11 VOZCE VOTE, 1lLL VOTING RYE� CAAIRPERSOX GOODSPEED DECLARED 2HE
MDT'ZON CARRZED UNANZM!WSLY.
HUU4N RESWRLES COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 3. 1983 � PAGE 3
Mr. Treuenfels distrt6uted copies of hts part of tfie workplan. He had
four goals. The first goal under Human Rights ►vas "TO establish a tocal
No-fault 6rievance Committee",
Mr. Treuenfels stated the "President's Report" in the League of Minnesota
Humnn Rights Commissions newsletter stated that "Peter Lewon� liaison to
the Minnesota Department of Human Rights, reported he has been assigned
to work full time on the developnent of the No-Fault process including
not only the expansion of training programs. but the creation of new
local commissions in communities which have none. The new Lortmissioner.
Irene 6anez-Bethke. is demonstrati�g her comnitment to the No-Fault process
and believed that soon local commissions will be asked to do even more
than they have been in implementing the Human Rights Law in their
camwnities."
MOTION BY lII2. TREUENFELS� SECONDED 8Y NS. VAN DAN� TO APPROVE THE HUMAN
RICNTS CDAL� •TO ESTABLZSB 11 ZQCAL NO-FAULT GRIEVANCE CONMITTEE�" AS PART
OF TNE I983 WORKPLAN.
UPON A YOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING EYE� CX1iIRPERSON COODSPEED DECLARED THE
NOTION CARRIED UNANIXWSLY.
Mr. Treuenfets stated the second goal wns "Funding of Service Organizations".
He stated the key to this goal was that the Comnission should be ready,
if requested. to advise tfie City Council on funding of camwnity develop-
�nent blxk grant funds.
IlOTZON BY M2, TREUENFELS� SECONDED 8Y ldt. BDEIdGERfiOFF� TO APPROVE "FUNDING
QF SERVSCE QRGANIZATIONS" 11S PART GF TNE I9B3 WDRXPI.AN,
UPQN A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTINC AYE� CBAZRPERSQN GOODSPEED DECLARED THE
MOTION CaRRSED UNAXI!lOIISLY.
Mr. Treuenfels stated the third goal was "Civillan Defense" - to inform
the people of Fridley of what to do when a disaster strikes. He stated
this was not a high priority goal and shouldn't require too much work on
the part of the Commissioners.
NOTION BY M2. TREUENFELS� SECQNDED BY lLS, Y.4N LA1J� TO APPROVE "CNILIAN
DEFEHSE" 1LS pART OF SXE 1983 WOR]�LiW,
UPON 11 VOICE VOTE, 11LL VOTING AYE, CBAIRPERSON GOODSPEED DECLARED THE
1M0170N GIRRIED UNANIMODSLY.
(Ms. Noble left the meeting at 8:45 p.n.)
Mr. Treuenfels stated the fourth goat Mas urder Housing. "To establish
a connection with the Anoka County Community Housing Resource Board
(ACCHRB)."
HUMAN RESWRCES COMMISSION MEETING. MARCH 3, 1983 PAGE 4
Mr. Hilt stated that at the last Lity Council meeting, the City Council
decfded not to de)ete the Carmunliy Development Camiission and have
received a recommendation from the Planning Cortmission not to combine
the Energy Commission and Envirormental Quality Cammission. He stated
the Conmunity �evelopment Comnission wi11 be looking at a"truth-in-
housing" statement to be provided for the citizens of Fridley as part
of their 1983 vrorkplan. The Human Resources Carmission might want to
meet jointly with the Comnunity Development Lomnission on this issue since
there is some overlap.
Mr. Treuenfels stated that was a good idea. He would appreciate the '
Human Resources Commission receiving a copy of the Community Oevelopment
Canmission's workptan� and the Human Resources Comnission should send a
copy of their workplan to the Lanmunity Development Cortmission.
Ms. van Dan stated she would like to see a copy of the Lity's Comprehensive
P]an as it might be very helpful in looking at housjng.
1fOTI0N BY lffi, TREUENFELS, SECONDED BY NS. VAN L1AN� TD APPROVE TNE HDUSING
GOAL� WITN THE UNDERSTANDING THAT TNE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION
MIGHT WANT TO PARTICIPRTE.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE� CBAIRpERSON COODSPEED DECLARED THE
NO'PION CARRZED UNANIlIOUSLY,
Mr. Boergerhoff stated he is working on.a goaT to be included in the
workplan, His idea came following the Commission's discussions with the
Carmunity Development Carmission. He had noticed that cities individually
are very much concerned with their pwn needs, images, and advancements.
He tho�ght there were sane areas thaL needed to be looked at on more of a
county-wide basis. One thing the Commission could do is look for some
comnon goa)s with ether camwnities' bwnan resources commissions, look for
ways to exchange information. and begin to took at the problems that are
county-wide; for instance, transportation and environmental problems. The
City might benefit fran a sharing of information.
Mr. Boergerhoff stated he would put this goal into a more formal written
fortn to be presented to the Commission at their next meeting.
Mr. Treuenfels stated he thought this was a good idea. It was certainly
needed. if for no other reason than to expand their horizons.
Ms. van Qan stated she thought it was very appropriate because there is
nothing in the Human Resources Commission's directives from the City
Council that says they tannot be aware pf what is going on in other
comnunities. It would be nice to share information with other cormiunities.
b. Comnunity Education Guidelines for Fundirg Proposals
Mr. Treuenfels stated he had asked that the Carmission members receive
copies of these guidelines. He thought the Cammission.might want to
NUHAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING. MARCH 3.�1983 PAGE 5
review these guidelines and other organizations' guidelines if the City
Council gives the "o.k." to fund service organizations ►►ith CDBG monies.
Mr. Hill stated that if the Commission is concerned about the need for
human service type of funding. he would urge them to attend the City
Council meeting on March 14 as that is when the City Louncil will be
hearing the CDBG proposals again.
Ms. van Dan agreed it is time to revise their funding guidelines again
as they found they were discussing a lot of things that were very
intangible.
c. £qual Employment Opportunity Report for 1982
Mr, Hill stated this is an annual report filled out every Uct, for the
Federal Government. He Manted to emphasize that it is an equal opportunity
format and is not an affirmative action format.
MOTSON SY Mt. TREUENFELS� SECQNDED BY MR. BOERGERNOFF� TO RECENE TXE
SQUAL ENPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY REPC�T FOR 29B?.
UPQN 11 VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYB� CAAIRPERSpN GOODSPEED DECLARED TNE
!(OTION CARRIEII UNANI4f0USLY.
d, s5,000 Dcnatton to the Community Education Program
Mr, Hill stated that at the last meeting. Mr. 7reuenfels had asked him
to find out about a 55,000 donation to Community Education. Mr, Hill
stated this s5,000 came out of the 6eneral Fund for the Parks 6 Recreation
Department. The Parks d Recreation DeparUnent has received three funding
requests fran Cannunity Educatton--�4,Q00 far 1981. s5.000 for 1982, and
=5.000 for ]983.
e. Project Reports
None
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTIDN BY J1R. TREUENFEIS� SECONDED BY XR. BOERGERXOFF� TO AAIWRN TXE XEETING.
UPOW JI VOSCE VOTE, ALL V�INv AYE� CXAIRPERSGW CppDSPEED DECIARED TXE 1MARCH 3, 2983,
IfUMAN RESDURCSS CLI�AlSSSSON NEETINC AA70URNED AT 9t35 P. N.
Res � tfully subn ted.
�. ��
ynn a a
Recording Setretary
.. .
HUMAPa RESOURCES CO�MIISSION
WORKPLAN 1983
COMMISSIONERS:
CITY STAFF:
Brian Goodspeed, Chairman
Lynn Boergerhoff, Vice Chairman Kent Hill
Mary van Dan
Peter Treuenfels
Jayne Noble
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 16, 1983
CALL TO ORDER:
Vice-Chairperson Oquist called the March 16, 1983, Planning Commission meeting
to order at 7:34 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Mr. Oquist, Ms. Gabel, Mr. Svanda, Mr. Kondrick, Mr. 5aba,
Mr. Goodspeed
Members Absent: Ms. Schnabel
Others Present: Bill Deblon, Associate Planner
Roger Mengelkoch, 6425 No. Willow Lane, Brooklyn Center
Mary Mengelkoch, 6425 No. 4Jillow Lane, Brooklyn Center
Henry Mengelkoch, 70 N.E. 70th Way
Louis K. Schmidt, 7300 East River Road
Bob Lange, 189 Loan Parkway N.E.
Tom Stewart, 6040 Thomas Ave. So., Mpls.
APPROVAL OF FEaRUARY 9, 1983, PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO APPROVE THE FEB. 9� Z983�
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN,
Mr. Svanda referred to page 9, paragraph 6, in which Councilman Schneider had
stated that, "he, too, was a little uncomfortable with combining the two
commissions (Energy Commission and Enuironmental Quality Commission). The
Energy Cori�nission is a very pro-active commission, whereas the Environmental
Quality Commission seems to 6e a staff-dominated canmission. With all the
environmental issues that are happening right now, he would expect to be getting
calls from every one of the Environmental �uality Commission members to find out
what is going on, and to be taking some actions, setting up meetinqs, etc."
Mr. Svanda stated he would like to offer a rebuttal with respect to those state-
ments. He stated he was not sure if Councilman Schneider had a full appreciation
for who the members are on the Environmental Quality Corrmission. If he knew, he
might not have made those comments. Mr. Svanda stated he is Assistant Director
of the So7id and Nazardous Waste Division of the MPCA. Within that division, they
have a site response group which is the group that takes care of the hazardous
waste sites in the State of Minnesota. They also have a group of people within
this division who are responsible for looking at the proposed sites of the Waste
Management Board. He stated he did not feel he needed to ask a second or third
party removed from the situation on what is going on when he can ask the party
directly related to the situation.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 16, 1983 PAGE 2
Mr. Svanda stated that since he has been on the Environmental Quality Commission,
he did not recall ever having received any direction from the City Council.
The Commission has had some meetings with the Council and has been received,
but there has been no guidance. Since he has been on the Commission, he believed
that their feb. 1983 meeting was the first meeting at which a City Councilman
was in attendance. That councilman was Ed Hamernik, and Mr. Svanda was very
encouraged by his attendance. The key thing the Environmental Quality Commission
is lacking is input from the City Council. They have gone to the City Council
with their workplans, the workplans have been received, but he did not recall
they were received to the extent of getting any guidance or direction on what
the City Council expected of the Commission. The City Council has also never
asked the Environmental Quality Corrmission for an opinion concerning any of these
environmental issues.
Mr. Svanda stated that with regard to Councilman Schneider's statement that the
"Environmental Quality Commission seems to be a staff-dominated commission",
Mr. Svanda stated it is not a staff-dominated commission. The solid waste issues
the Commission is a r-3a essing right now were initiated by the Commission and not by
Staff. Following the Comnission's discussions, the City offices are now recycling
paper, there is an oil recycling facility at SORT, there was a Recycling Week, etc.
He had to feel those were commission-initiated things and not staff-initiated
things. Staff certainly assists the Commission, but not in any way as to define
the Comnission as being a staff-dominated commission,
Mr. Svanda stated he wanted to express his concerns regarding the comments raised
by Councilman Schneider,
UPON A VOICE vOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� VIGE-CNAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
�.
NG: REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL
to a ow an o�� Vepot and Pullman railroad car
Auditor's Subdivision No. 77, to be used for a
same being 7355 East River Road N.E. (Subject
L. S. #82-05, Kunz Oil Company).
MIT, SP #83-01, BY
0, of t e Frid ey City Code,
to be placed on Lot 18,
commercial business, the
to Council approval of
MOTION BY MR. %ONDRICK� SECONDED BY Mk. SABA� TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON
SPECIAL USE PERMIT� SP �83-OI� BY RQGER H. MENGELKOCX,
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUSST DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN AT 7:39 P.M.
Mr. Deblon stated the location of the proposal is between Osborne Road and
73rd Ave., just to the east of East River Road. This proposal is part of a
chain of events dating back to Aug./early Sept, 1982, with the Kunz Oil Company
lot split. That is when the Planning Commission first heard the subdivision
request. That subdivision called for two parcels, Parcel A and Parcel B,
PLFlNNING COMMISSION MEETING, hU1RCH 16, 1983 PAGE 3
Parcel A has an existing bakery on it. Both parcels are about one acre in size
and are zoned C-1S (loca] shopping). The subdivision went to the City Council
with various stipulations, and the subdivider didn't agree with all the stipu-
lations.
Mr. Deblon stated there is now the potential of having the subdivision resolved.
The major question of the subdivision was what was going to happen to Parcel B,
and Kunz Oil did not have any proposal for that parcel. There is now this
proposal by Roger Mengelkoch, which is quite a unique proposal.
Mr. Deblon stated the proposal is in two phases. The first phase is to put in
a Pullman railroad car, install it according to State Building Code, and design
exterior improvements and parking. In the second phase, the applicant proposes
to purchase an actual depot,
Mr. Deblon stated the City would like to see landscapfng and is concerned about
the opening to the property. The code calls for a 32 ft, wide opening, so they
would like to see that entrance narrowed to 32 ft. The long range plan for this
area is to extend the service road a little further and have more of an opening
on to East River Road. For that reason, the City would waive some cur6in�
because it would probably be removed at some future time. The proposal�calls
for a fence with landscaping for district separation.
Mr. Deblon stated one of the issues on the lot split was a 40-45 ft. easement
for a service road. That was an issue because of the existing lease on the
parcel where the bakery is located. The City would be willing to go with a ease-
ment within a �ertain timeframe.
Mr. Deblon stated the PUllman car will be accessible to the handicapped. It
will be used as a hair salon. Th� future depot will be for small local shops
and service-type businesses.
Mr. Deblon stated there is a bil7board on the property. There is an agreement
in past minutes that when this land is developed, the billboard is to be taken
dovm.
Mr. Deblon stated the applicant has been very cooperative, He is willing to give
the easement and to work with the City on the fence for district separation and
landscaping.
Mr. Deblon stated one of Staff's concerns is they would like to see some time-
frame for phase 2 which is the depot, Mr. Mengelkoch has said if he cannot
purchase a depot, he wil] build a depot on that site. Mr. Deblon asked
Mr. Mengelkoch to explain about the depot in a little more detail.
Mr. Mengelkoch stated he has been looking at purchasing different depots from
St. Paul to Duluth. Because of the closing of Rmtrak, the railroads are putting
the little depots up for sale in sea7ed bids and people can purchase them. There
are a couple more coming up for bid this spring. He stated they decided to put
a depot on the property because there was so much property. He felt it was kind
of a unique concept in putting together his business. He felt it would really
attract people. He stated the businesses within the depot will be different
specialtyshops because of the uniqueness of the deve7opment.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 16, 7983 PAGE 4
Mr. Deblon stated any businesses in the depot would have to be consistent with
the C-1S zaning.
Ms. Gabel asked Mr. Mengelkoch when he would make the decision on whether to buy
or build a depot.
Mr. Mengelkoch stated he should know by the end of the summer when he sees what
it will cost to purchase and move a depot.
Ms. Gabel asked Mr. Mengelkoch if he already had the Pullman car and how it would
be installed.
Mr. Mengelkoch stated he already has the Pullman car. It wil7 be sitting on
its wheels on tracks and ties. The wheels are welded to the tracks so it is
secure. He will put some kind of brick skirting around the car to insulate it.
Mr. Oquist asked if there was anyone in the audience who would like to speak for
or against the proposal.
Mr. Bob Lange, 189 Logan Parkway N.E., asked if the fence on the south would be
opaque.
Mr. Deblon stated, yes, it would probably be a solid wood fence with landscaping,
Mr. Lange stated that took care of one of his concerns. It would give the resi-
dents some privacy, He stated he did not know when it might occur, but eventually
East River Road might be widened. He asked if the City had looked at what the
County's needs might be on the east side of East River Road.
Mr, Oquist stated that when they discussed the lot split, it seemed to him that
one of the reasons for gaining the 45 ft. easement was, not only for the service
road, but also for the County to widen East River Road.
Ms. Gabel stated that is one of the problems why the lot split has not been
granted by the City Council. The City Council does not want to grant the lot
split without getting the easement.
Mr. Lange stated he viewed the type of business and the description of the
applicant's plan quite favorably. He had an interest in railroads and thought
this was a very unique proposal architecturally. As he was a resident of the
downstream end of the watershed, he would like to recommend that there be an
easement with an eventual retention pond in the northeast corner in the rear of the
northern portion of land. He stated there is a very large amount of hardtop
surface right now, some of which nothing can be done about, but the frontage roads
could drain east from the highway instead of from the west across it. He is
generally aware of the City's program requiring surface run-off in new developments.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETIPlG, MARCH 16, 1983 PAGE 5
Mr. De61on stated the Planning Commission could make that a stipulation that
there be a drainage plan; however, it is automatic and would come with the
building permit.
Mr. Deblon stated Staff was recommending the following stipulations:
l. A timeframe for the depot to be placed on the property
2. A fence meeting zoning code requirements and landscaping
3. Approval of the lot split with a 45 ft. easement
4. Removal of billboard
5. Required drainage plan (probably required by building permit)
6, Reduce entrance radii to 32 ft.
7. To put the owner on notice that the Pullman railroad car wi17 be
assessed as real estate.
MOTION BY MR. SRB.a� SECONDED BY MS. GRBEL, TO CZASE THE PUBLSC HEARING ON
SP #83-01 DY ROGER H. MENGELKOCH.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING RYE, VICE—CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING CLOSED AT 8:25 P.M�.
Mr, Svanda stated that regarding a timeframe for the depot to be placed on the
property, he would suggest 2-3 years, taking into account the economics and
giving Mr. Mengelkoch time to get his business established.
Mr. Mengelkoch stated he wanted to open his business around the end of June.
Mr. Deblon stated Siaff would recommend not more than two years for the completion
of phase 2. When the special Use permit was reviewed in two years, if there was
an extreme hardship, the special use permit could probably be extended.
MOTION BY MR, SABA, SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK� TO RECOMMEND TO CSTY CDUNCSL
APPROVAL OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT� SP �l83-01, BY ROGER H. MENGELKOCH� PER SECTSON
205.ZOI� 3� O� OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE, TO ALLOW AN OLD DEPOT RND PULLMAN RAIL—
ROAD CAR TO BE PLACED ON LOT I8� RUDITOR�S SUBDIV2SION N0. 77� TO BE U5ED FOR A
COMMERCIAL BUSINESS� THE SAME BEING 7355 EAST RIVER ROAD N.E,�.f72TH SHE
FOLIAWING STIPULASIONS;
.Z. A TIMEFRAME OF TWO YEARS FOR THE DEPOT TO BE PLACED ON THE PROPERTY
2. A FENCE MEETING ZONING CODE REQUIREMENTS AND LANDSCAPING
3. CITY CDUNCIL APPROVAL OF LOT SPLIT WITH A 45 FT. EA5EMENT
4. REMOVAL OF BILLBOARD
5. REQUIRED DRAINAGE PLAN
6. REDUCE ENTRANCE RAD22 TO 32 FT. �
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE—CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTIOPJ
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
Mr. Oquist stated this would go to City Council on March 28,
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETIPdG, MARCH 16; 1983 PAGE 6
2. RECEIVE JANUARY 13, 1983, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. GOODSPEED� SECONDED BY MR. 5VANDR, TO RECEIVE THE JAN. Z3, 1983,
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES.
.UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3. RECEIVE FEBRUARY 8, 1983, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMEPJT COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. 5VANDA, SECONDED EY MR. KONDRICK� TO RECEIVE THE FEB. 8� 1983�
COl?MUNZTY DEVELOPMENT COMMI5SION MINUTES,
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNRNIMOUSLY.
4. RECEIUE FEBRUARY 15, 1983, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY P1S. GABEL� SECONDED BY hII2. KONDRICK� TO RECEIVE THE FEB, Z8� I983�
APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES.
Mr. Deblon stated it was his understanding that there was a motion on Item #,1
that needed action by the Planning Corrmission. The City Council had requested
a recommendation on this from the Planning Commission,
Ms. Gabel stated this was a surprise to her, She hadn't realized a recommenda-
tion was needed by the Planning Commission.
Ms. Gabel stated this was a variance request by Mr. & Mrs. Ing Siverts, 6850
Siverts Lane, to increase the maximum height of a fence from 7 to 10 feet in
the rear yard and side yards. She stated there is absolutely nothing about the
fence that is aesthetically pleasing. The Appeals Comnission felt there was no
hardship, and that whatever 7ights or noise there realistically is, a 10 ft.
fence will not take care of the prohlem.
Ms. Gabel stated the petitioner had asked if he needed to be at the Planning
Comnission meeting, and she had told him that the Planning Commission would only
be receiv�.ng the Appeals Commission minutes. She was unaware that any action
would be required by the Planning Commission, and this had cane as a total sur-
prise to her.
Mr. 600dspeed stated that since the petitioner had not been notified about any
Planning Commission action, he felt they should table any action until the next
meeting when the petitioner could be in atten�ance.
Ms. Gabel stated she did not feel any new or different information would come
to light if they were to continue this discussion at another meeting. The
information is already here, and it is just a matter of concurring or not con-
curring with the Appeals Commission.
Mr. Goodspeed disagreed.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 16, 1983 PA�E 7
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUSST DECLAR.ED THE MINUTES
RECEIVED,
MOTTON 8Y MR. XONDRICR� SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO CONCUR WITH THE APPEALS
COAfM255ION TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL DENIAL OF�THE VARIANCE REQUEST TO INCREASE
THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF A FENCE FROM 7 FT. TO 10 FT. IN THE REAR YARD AND SIDE
YARDS OF LOT C� REGISTERED LAND SURVEY NO. 3, 2HE SAME BESNG 6850 SIVERTS LANE
N,E., FRIDLEY� MN. 55432.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, OQUIST, KONDRICK� SABA, SVANDA, GABEL, VOTING AYE, GOODSPEED
ABBPAINING, VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUI5T DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED.
Mr. �eblon stated that regarding Item #2, the City Council had already approved
a uariance request for the Fridley Medical Center, but the approval was based on
approval by the Planning Commission.
Ms. Gabel stated that at the City Council meeting, she had questioned why
Planning Commission approval was needed when the Planning Corrmission just receives
the Appeals Commission's minutes. Generally, the Planning Commission makes a
recommendation on an item on7y when it something that stands out and Planning
Commission input is requested by the Appeals Commission. She saw the variance
request by the Fridley Medical Center as just a routine matter.
Mr. Oquist stated this is one more example of how the subcommissions are not
being utilized. All of a sudden the Planning Commission has to concur with the
Appeals Commission's motions. The charter of the Appeals Commission is that
its motions go directly to City Council. If the City Council didn't want to
rule on this item, they should have tabled it and asked for the Planning
Commission's recommendation. If action is always needed by the Planning
Comnission, then there is no need for an Appeals Commission.
MOTION BY MS. GRBEL� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO CONCUR WSTH THE APPEALS COMMISSION
TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF A VARIANCE REQUEST TO REDUCE TNE
REQUSRED SIDE YARD SETBRCK FROM ZS FT. TO 13 FT. TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTTON OF
AN ADDITION OF APPROXIMATELY 3�Q00 SQ. FT. TO BE USED FOR ADDSTIDNAL OFFICE AND
MEDICRL SPACE, LOCATED ON.THE NORTH 400 FT, OF THE WEST 2I7,8 FEET OF OUTLOT 1,
MELODY.MANOR 4TH ADDITION� THE SAME�BEING 7675 MADISON ST. N.E.� FRIDLEY� MN,�
55432, WISH THE STIPULATION THAT THE PETSTIONER UPGRADE THE TEMPORARY CONCRETE
CURBING TO�PERMANENT 6-INCH POURED CONCRETE.
UPON A V07CE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CXAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLl1RED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
5. RECEIVE FEBRUARY 15, 1983, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MI�JUTES:
�MDTION BY MR. SVANDA� SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO RECESVE TXE FEB. 25� 1983, ENVIR-
ONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIN6 AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
C�R72IED UNANIMOUSLY,
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 16, 1983 PAGE 8
6. RECEIVE FEBRUARY 16, 1983, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MTNUTES:
MOTSON BY MR. GDODSPEED� aECONDED 8Y MR. KONDRICX� TO RECEIVE THE FEB, 26� 1983�
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES.
DPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQOIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr, Goodspeed stated Staff and the Human Resources Commission prepared and
entered a National Office on Disability Awards Competition on behalf of the
work accomplished by the IYDP project committee and the Accessibility Project
Committee. He stated they had just recently been informed that they had
won a$1,000 Community Program Award.
Mr. Goodspeed stated there will be an awards ceremony on April 5 in Washington,
D,C., and a representative from the City of Fridley has been asked to attend
and receive the award. He stated he would like to know the Planning Commission's
feelings on whether or not to request the City to appropriate funds to send
someone to Washington D.C, to accept the award. He stated Bill Hunt, City Staff,
will be vacationing in Washington D.C. at that time and wou7d be willing to pick
up the award.
The Planning Commission members agreed it was great that the Human Resources
Corrunission had won this awards competition, but felt City money should not be
used to send someone to Washington D.C, to pick up the award when there was
someone from Fridley already out there who could do it.
Ms. Gabel stated it would be nice to have a ceremony at City Hal] when the
award arrives here, The appropriate people could be present, pictures could be
taken, and it could be publicized through the media. Maybe Congressman
Jerry Sikorski could be asked to pre.sent the award.
MOTION 8Y MR. GOODSPEED� SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK� TO HAVE SOMF.ONE REPRESENT-
INC FRIDLEY RECEIVE THE AWARD 7N WA5HINGTON D,C. AND TO ASK STAFF TO CONSACT
CONGRESSMAN ST%ORSKI'S OFFICE TO SEE IF HE WOULD BE WILLING TO BE INVOLVED IN
THE PRESENTATION OF THE AWARD AT A CEREMONY AS FRIDLEY CSTY HALL.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOPING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
7. RECEIVE FEBRUARY 17, 7983, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY.MR, SABA� TO RECEIVE THE FEB. 17� 2983�
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUISS DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNAHIMOUSLY,
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 16, 1983 PAGE 9
8. RECEIVE MARCH 1, 1983, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION SPECIAL MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. SABA, SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK, TO RECEIVE THE MARCH Z, 1983,
COMMUNZTY DEVELOPMENT COMMI5SION SPECIAL MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VQTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUSST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
9. REUIEW CON�IUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION 1983 WORKPLAN:
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK, 5ECONDED BY MR, SABA, TO CONCUR WITH THE COMMUNISY
DEVELOPMENT COMMISSIDN�5 I983 WORKPLAN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED TAE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. '
10. RECEIVE MARCH 3, 1983, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION 8Y MR. GOODSPEED, 5ECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO RECENE TXE MARCH 3� 1983,
HUMAN RE50IIRCES COMMIS520N MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE� VICE-CNAIRPERSON�OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11. REVIEW HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION 1983 WORKPLAN:
KOTION 8Y MR. GODDSPEED� SECONDED 8Y MR. XONDRSCK� TO CONCUR WSTH THE HUMAN
RE50URCES CQMMISSIX7N'S .29$3 WORKPLAN. �
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRSED UNANIMOUSLY. �
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTZON BY MR, KONDRICK� SECONDED 8Y MR. GOODSPEED, TO ADTOURN THE MEEPING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE
MARCH 26� I983� PLRNNING COMMISSTON MEETING ADTOURNED AT 10:00 P.M.
Res ectfully s bmitted,
C//t-Q '2L/
Lyn e Sa a
Recording Secretary
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