PL 03/30/1983 - 6812�.
City of fridley
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WEDNESDAY, MARCH 30, 1983
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
APPROVE PLANNING CONPIISSION MINUTES: MARCH 16, 1983
1. RECEI
VELOPMENT COMM
2. RECEIVE HOUSING & REDEYELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES: MARCH 10,
1983
3. RECEIVE ENVIRONMENTAL_ QUALITV COMF1ISSION MINUTES: MARCH 15.
4. REVIEW ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION 1983 WORKPLAN
7:30 P.M.
WHITE
PINK
WNITE
BLUE
BLUE
5. RECEIVE MINUTES OF SPECIAL HUMAN RESOURCES MEETING: MARCH 17,_ SALf10N
1983 �e--�..; � C�n�, ,°y�, �
6. RECEIVE ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES: MARCH 22, 1983 (at meetinp) ORCHID
7 REVIEW ENERGV COMMISSION 1983 WORKPLAN ORCHID
$• RECEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: MARCH 22 1983 YELLOW
*All items go to the City Council
9. OTHER BUSINESS:
ADJOURNMENT:
CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COh4,1ISSI0N MEETING, MARCH 16, 1983
CALL TO ORDER:
Vice-Chairperson Oquist called the March 16, 1983, Planning Commission meeting
to order at 7:34 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present
Members Absent:
Mr. Oquist, Ms
Mr. Goodspeed
Ms. Schnabel
Gabel, Mr. Svanda, Mr. Kondrick, Mr. Saba,
Others Present: Bill Deblon, Associate Planner
Roger Mengelkoch, 6425 No. Willow Lane, Brooklyn Center
Mary Mengelkoch, 6425 No. Willow Lane, Brooklyn Center
Henry Mengelkoch, 70 N.E. 70th Way
Louis K. Schmidt, 7300 East River Road
Bob Lange, 189 Loan Parkway N.E.
Tom Stewart, 6040 Thomas Ave. So., Mpls.
APPROVAL OF FEQRUARY 9, 1983, PLANNI�JG COMMISSION MIP�UTES:
MOTION BY MR, KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MS. GABEL, TO APPROVE THE FEB. 9, 1983,
PLANNZNG COMMISSIDN MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
Mr. Svanda referred to page 9, paragraph 6, in which Councilman Schneider had
stated that, "he, too, was a little uncomfortable with combining the two
conmissions (Energy Commission and Environmental Quality Comnission), The
Energy Cort¢nission is a very pro-active commission, whereas the Environmental
Quality Commission seems to be a staff-dominated commission. With all the
environmental issues that are happening right now, he would expect to be getting
calls from every one of the Environmental Quality Commission members to fi�d out
what is going on, and to be taking sane actions, setting up meetings, etc,"
Mr. 5vanda stated he would like to offer a rebuttal with respect to those state-
ments. He stated he was not sure if Councilman Schneider had a full appreciation
for who the members are on the Environmental Quality Cortmission. If he knew, he
might not have made those comments. Mr. Svanda stated he is Assistant Director
of the Solid and Hazardous Waste Division of the MPCA. Within that division, they
have a site response group which is the group that takes care of the hazardous
waste sites in the State of Minnesota. They also have a group of people within
this division who are responsible for looking at the proposed sites of the Waste
Management Board. He stated he did not feel he needed to ask a second or third
party removed from the situation on what is going on when he can ask the party
directly related to the situation.
PLANNING COhT1ISSI0N MEETING MARCH 16 1983 PAGE 2
Mr. Svanda stated that since he has been on the Environmental Quality Commission,
he did not recall ever having received any direction from the City Council.
The Commission has had some meetings with the Council and has been received,
but there has been no guidance. Since he has been on the Comnission, he believed
that their Feb. 1983 meeting was the first meeting at which a City Councilman
was in attendance. That councilman was Ed Namernik, and Mr. Svanda was very
encouraged by his attendance. The key thing the Environmental Quality Commission
is lacking is input from the City Council. They have gone to the City Council
with their workplans, the workplans have been received, but he did not recall
they were received to the extent of getting any guidance or direction on what
the City Council expected of the Commission, The City Council has also never
asked the Environmental Quality Comnission for an opinion concerning any of these
environmental issues.
Mr. Svanda stated that with regard to Councilman Schneider's statement that the
"Environmental Quality Commission seems to be a staff-dominated commission",
Mr. Svanda stated it is not a staff-dominated commission. The solid waste issues
the Commission is a r�essing right now were initiated by the Commission and not by
Staff. Following the Commission's discussions, the City offices are now recyclin�
paper, there is an oil recycling facility at SORT, there was a Recyclinq Week, etc,
He had to feel those were commission-initiated things and not staff-initiated
things. Staff certainly assists the Commission, but not in any way as to define
the Comnission as being a staff-dominated commission.
Mr. Svanda stated he wanted to express his concerns regarding the comments raised
by Councilman Schneider.
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE� VIGE-CHAIRPERSON OQUZST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
PUBLIC NEARING: REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL U5E PERMIT, SP #83-01, BY
h�GER H, MENGELKOCH: Per Section 205. %, 3,�0, of the Frid�City Code,
o a ow an o epot and Pullman railroad car to be placed on Lot 18,
Auditor's Subdivision No. 77, to be used for a commercial business, the
same being 7355 East River Road N.E. (Subject to Council approval of
L. S. #82-05, Kunz Oil Company).
MOTION BY MR. KONDRZCK� SECONDED BY MR. SRBA� TO OPEN TXE PUBLIC HEARING ON
SPECIAL USE PERMIT� SP }183-02� BY ROGER X. MENGELKOCH,
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYfi� VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUSST DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN AT 7:39 P.M.
Mr. Deblon stated the location of the proposal is between Osborne Road and
73rd Ave., just to the east of East River Road. This proposal is part of a
chain of events dating back to Aug./early Sept. 1982, with the Kunz Oil Company
lot split. That is when the Planning Commission first heard the subdivision
request. That subdivision called for two parcels, Parce7 A and parcel B,
PLANNING CQMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 16, 1983 PAGE 3
Parcel A has an existing bakery on it. Both parcels are about one acre in size
and are zoned C-1S (loca] shopping). The subdivision went to the City Council
with various stipulations, and the subdivider didn't agree with all the stipu-
lations.
Mr. Deblon stated there is now the pote�tial of having the subdivision resolved.
The major question of the subdivision was what was going to happen to Parcel B,
and Kunz Oil did not have any proposal for that parcel. There is now this
proposal by Roger Mengelkoch, which is quite a unique proposal.
Mr. Deblon stated the proposal is in two phases. The first phase is to put in
a Pullman rai7road car, install it according to State Building Code, and design
exterior improvements and parking. In the second phase, the applicant proposes
to purchase an actual depot,
Mr. Deblon stated the City would like to see landscaping and is concerned about
the opening to the property. The code calls for a 32 ft. wide openinn, so they
would like to see that entrance narrowed to 32 ft. The long range plan for this
area is to extend the service road a little further and have more of an opening
on to East River Road. For that reason, the City would waive some curbinq
because it would probably be removed at some future time. The proposal calls
for a fence with landscaping for district separation.
Mr. Deblon stated one of the issues on the lot split was a 40-45 ft, easement
for a service road. That was an issue because of the existing ]ease on the
parcel where the hakery is located. The City would be willing to go with a ease-
ment within a certain timeframe.
Mr. Deblon stated the Pullman car will be accessible to the handicapped, It
will be used as a hair salon, The future depot will he for small locat shops
and service-type businesses.
Mr, Deblon stated there is a bil]board on the property. There is an agreement
in past minutes that when this land is developed, the billboard is to be taken
do�m.
Mr. Deblon stated the applicant has been very cooperative. He is willing to give
the easement and to work with the City on the fence for district separation and
landscaping.
Mr. Deblon stated one of Staff's concerns is they wo�ld like to see sane time-
frame for phase 2 which is the depot. Mr. Mengelkoch has said if he cannot
purchase a depot, he wil] build a depot on that site. Mr. Deblon asked
Mr. Mengelkoch to explain about the depot in a little more detail.
Mr. Mengelkoch stated he has been looking at purchasing different depots from
St. Paul to Duluth. Because of the closing of Amtrak, the railroads are putting
the little depots up for sale in sealed bids and peaple can purchase them. There
are a coupie more coming up for bid this spring. He stated they decided to put
a depot on the property because there was so much property. He felt it was kind
of a unique concept in putting together his business. He felt it would really
attract people. He stated the businesses within the depot will be different
specialtyshops because of the uniqueness of the development.
PLANNIN6 COMMISSION MEETING. MARCH 16. 1983
Mr. Deblon stated any businesses in the depot would have to be consistent with
the C-1S zoning.
Ms. Gabel asked Mr. Mengelkoch when he would make the decision on whether to buy
or build a depot.
Mr. Mengelkoch stated he should know by the end of the summer when he sees what
it will cost to purchase and move a depot,
Ms. Gabel asked Mr. Mengelkoch if he already had the Pullman car and how it would
be installed.
Mr. Mengelkoch stated he already has the Pullman car. It will be sittin9 on
its wheeTs on tracks and ties. 7he wheels are welded to the tracks so it is
secure. He will put some kind of brick skirtinq around the car to insulate it.
Mr. Oquist asked if there was anyone in the audience who would like to speak for
or against the proposal.
Mr. Bob Lange, 189 Logan Parkway N.E., asked if the fence on the south would be
opaque.
Mr. Deblon stated, yes, it would probably be a solid wood fence with landscaping.
Mr. Lange stated that took care of one of his concerns. It would give the resi-
dents some privacy. He stated he did not know when it might occur, but eventually
East River Road might be widened. He asked if the City had looked at what the
County's needs might be on the east side of East River Road.
Mr. Oquist stated that when they discussed the IQt sp7it, it seemed to him that
one of the reasons for gaining the 45 ft, easement was, not only for the service
road, but also for the County to widen East River Road.
Ms. Gabel stated that is one of the pro6lems why the lot split has not been
granted by the City Council. The City Council does not want to grant the lot
split without getting the easement.
Mr. Lange stated he viewed the type of business and the description of the
applicant's plan quite favorably. He had an interest in railroads and thought
this was a very unique proposal architecturally. As he was a resident of the
downstream end of the watershed, he would like to recomnend that there be an
easement with an eventual retention pond in the northeast corner in the rear of the
northern portion of land, He stated there is a very large amount of hardtop
surface right now, some of which nothing can be done about, but the frontage roads
could drain east from the highway instead of from the west across it. He is
generally aware of the City's program requiring surface run-off in new developments.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 16 1983 PAGE 5
Mr. Deblon stated the Planning Commission could make that a stipulation that
there be a drainage plan; however, it is automatic and would come with the
buiiding permit,
Mr. Deblon stated Staff was recommending the following stipulations:
1. A timeframe for the depot to be placed on the property
2. A fence meeting zoning code requirements and landscaping
3. Approval of the lot split with a 45 ft. easement
4. Removal of 6illboard
5. Required drainage plan (probably required by building permit)
6. Reduce entrance radii to 32 ft.
7. To put the owner on notice that the Pullman railroad car will be
assessed as real estate.
MOTZON BY 1�2. SABIl� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC NERRING ON
SP #83-01 IIY RG�ER H. MENGELKOCH.
UPON A VOZCE V07'E, ALL VOTZNG AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE PUBLIC
XEARING CL0.SED RT 8:25 P.M.
Mr, Svanda stated that regardina a timeframe for the depot to be placed on the
property, he would suggest 2-3 years, taking into account the economics and
giving Mr. Mengelkoch time to get his business estab7ished.
Mr. Mengelkoch stated he wanted to open his business around the end of June.
Mr. Deblon stated Siaff would recommend not more than two years for the completion
of phase 2. When the special use permit was reviewed in two years, if there was
an extreme hardship, the special use permit could probably be extended.
MOTZON BY MR, SABA� SECONDED BY MR, KONDRICK� TO RECOAIMEND TO CZTY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF SPECIRL USE PERMZT� SP N83-OZ, BY ROGER H, ME^7GELKOCH, PER S6CSION
205.IOZ� 3, O, OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE, TO ALZAW AN OLD DEPOT AND PULLMAN RAZL-
ROAA CAR TD BE PLACED ON LOT 18� AUDISOR'S SUHDSVISION NO. 77� TO BE USED FOR R
COMMERCZAL BUSINESS� TNE SAME BEING 7355 EAST RIVER RORD N,E., f77TN THE
FOLIAWING STIPULATIONS:
1. R TIMEFRAME OF TWO YEARS FOP, THE DEPOT TO BE PLACED OT! THE PROPERSY
2. A FENCE MEETING ZONTNG CODE REQUIREMENTS AND LANDSCAPING
3. CITY CIXINCIL RPPROVAL OF IAT SPLZT WZTH R 45 FT, EASEMENT
4. REMOVAL OF BILLBOARD
S. REQUIRED DRAINAGE PLAN
6, R£DUCE ENTRANCE RAD77 TO 32 FT.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTIOPI
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Oquist stated this would go to City Council on March 28.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETIP�G, MARCH 16, 1983 PAGE 6
2. RECEIVE JANUARY 13 1983, HOUSING & REDEVELbPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. GOODSPEED, SECONDED BY MR. SVRNDA, TO RECEIVE THE JRN, 13� 1983,
XDI/SZNG 6 REDEV£ZAPMENT AUTHORITY MZNUTES.
f7PON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIItPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
3. RECEIVE fEBRUARY 8 1983 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMEP�T COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. SVANDA� SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICIC� TO RECEIVE THE FEB. 8� 2983�
COMMUNZTY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSZON MZNUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING RYE, VICE-CNAIRPEF250N OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
4. RECEIVE FEBRUARY 15, 1983, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTZON 8Y MS, GABEL� SECONDED BY M(2, KONDRICK� TO RECEIVE THE FEB. Z8� 1983�
APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES.
Mr. Deblon stated it was his understanding that there was a motion on Item N1
that needed action by the Planning Comnission. The City Council had requested
a recommendation on this from the Planning Commission,
Ms. Gabel stated this was a surprise to her. She hadn't realized a recommenda-
tion was needed by the Planning Commission.
Ms. Gabel stated this was a variance request by Mr. & Mrs. Ing Siverts, 6850
Siverts Lane, to increase the maximum height of a fence from 7 to 10 feet in
the rear yard and side yards. She stated there is absolutely nothing about the
fence that is aesthetically pleasing. The Appeals Comnission felt there was no
hardship, and that whatever lights or noise there realistically is, a 10 ft.
fence will not take care of the problem.
Ms, Gabe] stated the petitioner had asked if he needed to be at the Planning
Cormission meeting, and she had told him that the Planning Commission wou7d only
be receivting the Appeals Commission minutes. She v+as unaware that any action
would be required by the Planning Cortmission, and this had cane as a total sur-
pri se to her.
Mr. Goodspeed stated that since the petitioner had not been notified about any
Planning Commission action, he felt they should table any action until the next
meeti�g when the petitioner could be in atYendance.
Ms. Gabel stated she did not feel any new or different information would come
to light if they were to continue this discussion at another meeting. The
information is already here, and it is just a matter of concurring or not con-
curring with the Appeals Canmission.
Mr. Goodspeed disagreed,
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 16, 1983 PAGE 7
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MZNUTES
XECEIVED.
MOTION 8Y MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO CONCUR WITH THE APPEALS
CO1fMZ5SION TO RECOMMEND TO CITY CDUNCIL DENIAL OF THE VARIANCE REQUEST TO INCREASE
THE MAXIMUM HEZGXT OF A FENCE FROM 7 FT. TD 10 FT. IN TXE REAR YARD AND SIDE
YARDS OF IAT C� REGISTERED LAND SURVEY N0. 3� TXE SAME BEING 6850 SIVERSS LANE
N,E „ FRZDLEY, MN, 55932.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, OQUIST� KONDRICK� SABA� SVANDA� GABEL� VOTING RYE� GOODSPEED
ABSFAINING, VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED TXE MOTION CARRIED,
Mr. Deblon stated that regarding Item #2, the City Council had already approved
a variance request for the Fridley Medical Center, but the approva7 was based on
approval by the Planning Commission.
Ms. Gabel stated that at the Gity Council meeting, she had questioned why
Planning Commission approval was needed when the Planning Corrmission just receives
the Appeals Commission's minutes. Generally, the Planning Commission makes a
recommendation on an item only when it something that stands out and Planning
Coemission input is requested by the Appeals Commission, She saw the variance
request by the fridley Medical Center as just a routine matter.
Mr. Oquist stated this is one more example of how the subcommissions are not
being utilized. All of a sudden the Planning Corrmission has to concur with the
Appeals Commission's motions. The charter of the Appeals Commission is that
its motions go directly to City Council. If the City Council didn't want to
rule on this item, they should have tabled it and asked for the Planning
Canmission's recommendation. If action is always needed by the Planning
Coomission, then there is no need for an Appeals Comnission.
MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY A42. SABA� TO CONCUR WITH THE APPEALS COMMISSION
TO RECOMMEND TO CITY CWNCIL APPROVAL OF A VARIANCE REQUEST TO REDUCE THE
REQUIRED SIDE YRRD SETBRCK FROM IS FT. TO 13 FT. TO ALLOW TX6 CONSTRUCTION OF
AN ADDZTIQf1 OF APPROXIMATELY 3�Q00 SQ. FT. TO BE USED FOR ADDZTIONAL OFFICE AND
MEDICRL SPACE� IACA2ED ON THE NORTH 400 FT. OF THE WEST 217,8 FEET OF IXITLOS 1,
METADY MANOR 4TN ADDITION� THE SAME BEING 7675 MRDISON ST. N.E,� FRIDLEY� MN.,
55432� WITH THE STIPULATION TNRT THE PETITSONER UPGRADE TXE TEMPORRRY CONCRESE
CURBING TO PERMANENT 6-INCH POURED CONCRETE.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING RYE� VICE-CHRIRPERSON OQUIST DECZ�RED THE MOTIDN
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
5, RECEIUE FEBRUARY 15, 1983, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COh4�1ISSI0N MIPJUTES:
MOTION BY MR, SVANDA, SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO RECE2VE THE FEB, I5� 1983, ENVZR-
ONMENTRL QUALITY COMMISSZON MINUTES,
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTZON
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 16, 1983 PAGE 8
6. RECEIVE FEBRUARY 16, 1983, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTZON BY MR. GDODSPEED, SECONDED BY 1�➢2. XONDRICK, TO RECEIVE THE FEB. 16, 1983,
XUMAN RESOIIRCES COMMISSICN MINUT£S.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL V�ING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTZON
CARRIED UNANIMDUSLY.
Mr. Goodspeed stated Staff and the Human Resources Commission prepared and
entered a National Office on �isability Awards Competition on behalf of the
work accomplished by the IY�P project committee and the Accessibility Project
Corimittee. He stated they had just recently been informed that they had
won a$1,000 Community Program Award.
Mr. Goodspeed stated there will be an awards ceremony on April 5 in Washington,
D.C., and a representative fran the City of Fridley has been asked to attend
and receive the award. He stated he would like to know the Planning Commission's
feelings on whether or not to request the City to appropriate funds to send
someone to Washington D.C. to accept the award. He stated Bill Hunt, City Staff,
will be vacationing in Washington D.C. at that time and would be willing to pick
up the award.
The Planning Commission members agreed it was great that the Human Resources
CoRmission had won this awards competition, but felt City money should not be
used to send someone to Washington D.C. to pick up the award when there was
someone from Fridley already out there who could do it.
Ms. Gabel stated it would be nice to have a ceremony at City Hall when the
award arrives here. The appropriate people could be present, pictures could be
taken, and it could be publicized through the media. Maybe Congressman
Jerry Sikorski could be asked to present the award.
MOTION BY MR. GOODSPEED� SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK� TO HAVE SOMF.06B REPRESENT-
ING FRZDLEY RECEIVE THE AWARD IN WASXINGTON D.C. AND TO ASK STAFF TO CONTACT
CONGRESSMAN SIKORSKI'S OFFICE TO SEE IF NE WOULD BE WZLLING TO BE INVOLVED IN
THE pRESENTATION OF THE RWARD RT A CEREMONY RT FRIDLEY CITY HALL.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CNAZRPERSON OQUZST DECLAI2ED TXE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
7. RECEIVE FEBRUARY 17, 1983, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS. GRBEL� SECONDED BY MR. SRBA, TD RECEIVE THE FEB, 17, 1983,
HIXTSING & REDEVELOPMENT RUTHORITY MINUTES.
UPON R VOICE VOSE� ALL VOTING AYE� VZCE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNADIMOUSLY.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 16, 1983 PAGE 9
8. RECEIVE MARCH 1, 1983, COMMUNITY DEVEL�PMENT COMMISSION SPEGIAL MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. SABA, SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK� TO RECEIVE THE MARCH I� 1983,
COMMfJNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION SPECIAL MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CXAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY.
9. REVIE4J COhT1UNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION 1983 WORKPLAN:
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICX� SECONDED BY TII2. SABR, TO CONCUR WITH THE COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION'S 1983 WORKPLAN.
UPON A VDICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CXAIRPERSON OQUISS DECLARED TNE MOTIO.N
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. '
10. RECEIVE MARCH 3, 1983, HUMAN RESOURCES COMM15510N MINUTES:
MOSION BY MR. GOODSPEED, SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO RECENE THE MARCH 3, 1983�
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSZON MINUTES,
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11. REVIEW HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION 1983 WORKPLAN:
NOTZON BY hff2. GOODSPEED� SECONDED BY hII2. XOP7DRICK� TO CONCUR WITH THE HUMAN
RESOURCES COMMISSInN'S 1983 WORKPLAN,
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED TNE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTZON BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED 8Y MR, GOODSPPED� TO ADJOURN TXE' MEETING.
UPON R VOZCE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAZRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE
MARCH 16� 1983� PI.IWNING COMMISSION MEETZNG ADJOURNED AT 10:00 P.M,
Respectfully bmitted,
� �
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Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION
MEETIN6
MARCH 8� 1983
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Oquist called the March 8, 19B3, Ca�nunity Development Commission
meeting to order at 7:35 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: LeRoy Oquist, Ken Vos, A1 Gabel. Carol Fassett
Menbers Absent: None
Others Present: Kent Nill, Economic Development Assistant
APPROVAL OF MARCH 1, 1983, SPECIAL COh�IUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR, GABEL, SECONDED BY NS, FASSEST� TO APPROVE THE HARCX 1� I983,
SP£CIAL COMMUNITY DEVELUPMENT COMMISSION RINUTES AS WRSTTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTING RYE� CXAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED TXE MOTZON
CRRRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
I. OLD BUSINESS:
A. Discuss goals and objectives of Commission
1. Review information from other suburbs regarding their commission
process
Mr. Hill stated that at the tast meeting, the Commission members
had asked him to contact other cortmunities (first-ring suburbs
that have common borders with Minneapolis) to find out if other
comnunities have comnissions similar to the Canmunity Development
Commission. He stated he had contacted nine suburbs--Columbia
Heights, Robbinsdale, Brooklyn Center, Richfield, Crystal, Golden
Valley, 5t. Anthony, Edina, and St. Louis Park. He had put together
information from five of the canmunities he felt had Commissions
somewhat similar to the Comnunity Development Camiission. They are
Crystal, Golden Valley, Richfield, Edina, and St. Louis Park.
- Crystal - Lon Ran �e� �Planni_ng Comnission - advises and makes
recortmendations to tFe Cit�ounci'1—in matters relating to long ranqe
effect of planning in the city as referred to the commission by the
City Council either (a) by the Council in its initiative or (b)
COIIMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMPIISSION MEETING MARCH 8 1983 PAGE 2
by the Council at the request of other advisory commissions.
(11 members, 2 fran City Council, 3 from Planning Comnission,
1 from Parks & Recreation Commission, 1 from Environmental Comnission.
7 from Human Relations Cortmission, and 3 citizens; 3 yr, terms)
- Golden Valley - Nousin & Cortmunit Develo ent Cortmission - to
advise, recanmend an assist t e City Counci in matters re ating to
Housing and Comnunity Development. (5 members; 3 yr, terms)
- Edina - Comnunit Develo ent 8 Plannin Cortanission -(17 members;
3 yr, terms
- St. Louis Park - �Com�m�unity_R��e�tations Cortmission - provides a farum
for discussion of t e ne�i —eas and�esires o� neig'-Fbi orhood areas and
serves as a vehicle for citizen input and opinion to the City Council
in matters reiating to workabie programs, housing, captial improvement
programs, and similar matters.(14 members; one representative from
each of ten neighborhood areas and 4 at-large representatives; 3 yr.
terms}
- Richfield - Cortmunit Services Comnission - charged with helping
city staff to eve op year aroun recreational activities, consider
neighborhood recreational development, and to review and make
recortmendations to the City Council regardin9 the city's public works
activities. (11 rt�embers; 3 yr. terms)
Mr. Hill stated he had all the information on the other suburbs if
the Comnission ever wanted to review it.
MOTZON BY MR. GABEL� SECONDED BY MS. FASSETT� TO RECENE THE
INFORNATIDN REGABDING CA'MMISSIONS IN OTXER COMMUNSTFES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE� CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLAF2ED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2. Review Ordinance N606
Mr, Hill stated Ordinance N606 was the ordinance that set up the
cortmission process. At the last meeting the Commission members had
sane question about the charter of the Comnission. He reviewed the
ordinance with the Comnission:
The Fridley Comnunity Development Comnission was established
in 1976 by the City Council for the purpose of "promoting
and maintaining high quality comnunity standards to ensure a
we11-balanced and orderly development, rehabilitation, and
redevelopment of the City of fridley; including, but not
limited to economic development, industrial, and commercial
development, housing, transportation services, public utilities,
comnunity development projects, and other related development
activities".
LO��UNITY DEVELOPMENT COhMISS10N MEETING MARCH 8 1983 PAGE 3
The Comnunity Deve7opment Cortmission shall act as an
advisory commission to the Planning Comnission for
continuous community planning and develoqnent of the
comprehensive City goals and policies. Any change in
related comnunity planning and canprehensive City goals
and policies must be reviewed by the Planning Cortmission
who will then make recortanendations to the City Co uuil.
The Canmunity Development Cortmission shall advise the
City Council, after a policy review by the Planning
Comnission, in the development of programs to give
increased effectiveness and direction in implementing
established City goals, policies and framework, and
recommend actions relevant to the physical development
of the City.
Membership of the Comnission: Each comnission shall con-
sist of five Fridley residents appointed by the City
Council. Upon expiration of the terms of office, members
shall continue to serve until their successor shall have
been appointed.
Mr. Oquist stated this brings him back to the point he has been
trying to make and that is: What is the intent of the comnission
process? Does the City Council need to relook at the commission
process, reassess what the comnissions are doing, and decide if
they want the canmission process to continue as it is now? In
looking at some of the information from the other communities,
"planninq" and "cortmunity development" seem to go hand in hand in
most of the comnunities. They are usually combined into one
commission and not two separate commissions. Fridley now has a
Housing & Redevelopment Authority which does a lot of the things
the Corrmunity Development Cortmission could do or used to do. The
City Council really should determine an area of need and appoint
a crnimission to address that need. Ne did not know if there was
a need for "cortmunity development" in Fridley.
B. Review and Discuss 1983 Workplan
Mr. Oquist canplimented Mr. Hi11 for a nice job in incorporatinq the
goals and objectives put together by the Comnission at the last meeting
into the final workplan form.
The Commission members reviewed the workplan and canpleted it by putting
'lll the °aCt10�5��. °priorities", and ��timetables",
CO"1MUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 8, 1983 PAGE 4
J�IOTZON BY DR. VOS, SECONDED BY XR. GABEL� TO APPROVE THE CANMUNITY
DEVEIAPMENT CqNMISSIOH 1983 WORKPLAN TO BE SUBMITTSD TO TAE CITY
COUNCZL.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CNAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE
NOTION CARRIED UNANZMDUSLY.
Mr. Hill stated he would have the vrorkplan retyped in time for the
Cortmunity Development Comnission to submit it to the City Council at
their regular meeting on March 28. The rrorkpian would also be received
by the Planning Corrmission on March 16.
C. Review and Discuss Animal Control Ordinance
Mr. Hi11 stated the City Council has asked the Comnunity Development
Commission to review this ordinance and make recommendations.
i01.01 Definitions, ,�10. Livestock - The Commission members agreed to
exclude "rabbits" and "fowl" and have them defined separately. 7hey
questioned the need for licensing "livestock" in the City of Fridley
and recomnended "livestock" be deleted from the ordinance.
The Comnission members agreed that even though this was an Animal Control
Ordinance, it seemed to address primarily dogs and cats. They would
recommend that sanehow the entire ordinance address dags, cats, rabbits,
and fowl, again deleting livestock from the ordinance. —
Mr. Oquist questioned if the license fees helped pay for the Animal
Control Officer. He definitely felt license fees for dogs, cats, rabbits,
and fowl should be used to help defray the cost of the Animal Control
Officer.
101.15 Kennels, �7. Unlawful Conduct - Ms. Fasset questioned the wording
in Item D: "Al1ow the dogs or cats to bite or scratch anyone ro erl on
or off the premises."
NOTION BY DR. V0.5� SECONDED BY MS. FASSETT� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
THE ABOVE CHANGES TO THE ANIMAL CONTROL ORDINANCE.
UPON R VOZCfi VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRPERSON OQlIZST DECLARED TNE MOTZON
CARRIED UNANIaNG1USLY.
AD�OURNMENT:
MOTION 8Y MR. GABEL� SECONDED BY DR. VOS� TO AA70URN THE MEETING. UPON A VDZCE
VOTE� ALL VQTZNG AYE, CHAIRPERSON OQUZST DEC.LARED THE 11ARCN B� 1983� COFfMUNZTY
DEVELOPMENT COMMZSSION ME£TING ADJOURNED AT 9:30 P.M.
Respectfully sub itted.
.�
Lyn Saba
Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
MEETING
MARCH 10, 1983
CALL TO ORDER:
Vice-Chairperson Prieditis called the March 10, 1983, Housing & Redevelopment
Authority meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Me�bers Present: Elmars Prieditis, Carolyn Svendsen, Duane Prairie,
Walter Rasmussen
Me�bers Absent: Larry Corrmers
Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
Nasim Oureshi, City Manager
Sid Inman, City finance Director
Dennis Schneider, City Council
Ed Hamernik, City Council
Mark Naggerty, 6441 University Ave. N.E.
Terry McNellis, Piper, Jaffray & Hopwood
Jim Casserly, �'Connor & Nannan
Warren Johnson, NSP
Larry Senson, NSP
Lorraine Nelson, 6080 Central Ave. N.E.
APPROVAL OF FEBRUARY 17, 1983 HQUSING & REDEVELOPMEP�T AUTHORITY MINUTES:
MOTIOPI BY MS. SVENDSEN� SECONDED BY MR, PRIEDITIS� TO APPROVE THE FEB. 17� I483�
HOUSZNG S REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VDICE VOTE� RLL VOTING RYE� VZCE-CHAIRPERSON PRIEDITIS DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMIX]SLY.
I. CENTER CITY DISTRICT
A. Copy of Landscape Architect Contract as requested by HRA on
Feb, 17, 1983
Mr. Boardman stated the HRA requested this at the last meeting. It
was for the HRA's information and no action was needed.
B. Information on Problem developing with Hardware Lease
Mr. Boardman stated the HRA had received copies of the correspondence
between himself and Dick Carson, President of Clothing Liquidators,
regarding the past-due rent payments for the hardware building.
HOUSIN6 & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORTTY MEETING, MARCH 10, 1983 PAGE 2
Mr. Rasmussen stated that in the future, he felt the City should develop
some type of formal guidelines with regard to certain fundamental things
that have to be looked at before they would enter into any type of 7ease
• arrangement. Mr. Rasmussen stated he had objected to this when Mr. Carson
came.before the HRA asking to 7ease the hardware bui]ding, and he was the
only one who voted against it.
Mr. Prieditis asked Mr, Boardman to give an update on this situation.
Mr. Boardman stated the first rent payment was due Jan. 10. When that
payment was not received, he had contacted Mr. Carson toward the end of
January. Mr. Carson had indicated the payment was on its way, When the
February payment was missed along with the January payment, several
letters were sent out. In Mr. Boardman's discussion with Mr. Herrick,
Mr. Herrick had indicated that Mr. Boardman should write a letter to
Mr. Carson giving a final date of March 11. If no payment is received
by that date, legal action will be taken to have the operation removed
from the building.
Mr. Rasmussen stated they have a7ready wasted taxpayers' money. Sy the
time they get this operation out of the hardware building, they will
probably be out $12,000 plus attorney's fees, Also, there was no provi-
sion in the lease to protect the HRA against any liens for unpaid work
done in the building. There could easily be some bills for remodeling
that was done and not paid for.
Mr. Rasmussen stated the HRA should know how many bills are not paid,
how much the HRA's obligation is, and to see if this money can be collected
in any way. He could not believe the City had waited 90 days for any
payment; but since they have, they should aggressively protect their
interest.
Mr. Rasmussen stated he would also iike to have information on how much
the City has lost, if any, in other unpaid rents in 1982 and the current
status of those rents. He wou]d like to have this information for the
next meeting.
Mr. Prieditis agreed he would like to see those figures.
Mr. Prairie stated the HRA definitely should have some type of procedure
to follow before entering into leases. He had assumed the City had some
type of procedure. Even though the HRA, except for Mr. Rasmussen, had
voted in favor of the leasing of the hardware building, they did so
reluctantly. They had asked Staff to check into the financia7 statements
and how Mr. Carson's other operation was run, Staff had reported back
that it was a good operation and the financial looked good.
MOTION BY MR. RRSMUSSEN� SECONDED BX 1NS. SYENDSEN� TO REQUEST STA£P TO
DEVELOP SOME GUIDELINES FOR FUTURE RENTSNG OR LEASING OF CITY PROPER2IES
TO BE DFSCUSSED AT THE NEXT MEETZNG,
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHRZRPERSON PRZEDITIS DECI,RRED
THE MOTZON CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
HOUSING & REDEUELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, MARCH 10, 1983 PAGE 3
C. Letter from NSP concerning underground distribution line (Letter from
Warren Johnson, NSP, to Mr. Boardman dated Aug. 20, 1982, and Letter
from W. W. Eidridge, NSP, to Mr. Boardman dated March 2, 1983)
Mr. Boerdman stated the reading �f the 1982 NSP policy was they would
put the underground electrical line in 5th St, free of charge to the
HRA because it was in a redevelopment area and was being developed on a
section-by-section basis. NSP has now clarified that policy and say
they will no longer do the underground electrical free of charge and that
the underground work on 5th St. is going to cost $48,630.
Mr. Rasmussen stated this seemed like rather a late hour for NSP to be
reclarifying their policy. The City wants to go underground with the
electrica7 and the City has been going under the assumption that NSP
was going to do this free of charge; now right at the moment when it
will delay the whole effort, NSP has come in with a proposal for a
$48,000 bill to the City. Was there some kind of compromise that could
be made between the City and NSP?
Mr. Johnson, Staff Assistant, North Division of NSP, stated NSP has
done everything possible in regard to keeping the cost down. Back in
August 1982, they indicated that if 75% of the area was renewed, NSP
would put in the underground system within the area itself. However,
there happens to be a feeder line passing through on 5th St. that passes
through the renewal area to service other areas, In NSP's policy of
doing underground work within an urban area, when there is a feeder line
of such a capacity that it carries through to service other people, it
has never been the intent of NSP to bury this at NSP's expense. They do
it at their expense only in the area where the renewal is. That is what
NSP's policy has always been. He was sorry if NSP led the City astray
in that regard, but they felt that both sides understood this when dis-
cussions were started last year.
Mr. Boardman stated the City met several times with NSP to discuss the
possibility of getting the underground work done free of charge. It
was his understanding that the underground work would be done free of
charge, and he thought they had looked at all of the lines including
5th St. The indication he had gotten from NSP at their last meeting was
that it wasn't a policy change but a reclarification of that policy,
Mr. Johnson stated it was his understanding that the City was going to
widen 5th St. NSP already has existing overhead lines along 5th St „
and they will move the overhead lines at NSP's expense. He stated they
arrived at the $48,000 figure by subtracting the cost of going under-
ground from the cost of moving the overhead lines.
Mr. Rasmussen stated that regardless how NSP approaches this, he still
felt NSP has led the City to believe that there vras no cost. The City
is trying to do some redevelopment which will create more electricity
for NSP. He felt Mr. Johnson should go back to NSP and discuss this
again to see if some adjustment can be made in the cost.
HOUSING & REQEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETIN6, MARCH ]0, 1983 PAGE 4
Mr. Johnson stated they are under the jurisdiction of the Public Services
Comnission, and each type of service has to pay its own way. One
cortmunity cannot subsidize another. He could not make this kind of
decision, but would have to discuss it with their management people.
MOTZON BY MR. RASMUSSEN� SECONDED BY MR. PRASRSE� TO REQUEST MR, JOHNSON
TO DISCUSS WITH NSP MRNAGEMENT THE COST OF UNDERGROUND FACILITIES AND
TO COME UP WITN AT LEAST A 50� REDUCTION ZN THE $48�630 COST. UPON
RECEZPT OF THIS INFORMATION AND BECAUSE OF THE URGENCY� A DECISION ON
HOW TO PROCEED WILL BE MADE BY THE HRA PRIOR TO THE NEXT MEETING.
Mr. Boardman stated the City is in a real time bind on this. The
engineers are looking for a decision at this meeting. At this time,
the options are either to go underground at whatever cost or move the
overhead poles to tfie east side of 5th St. which NSP has said will be at
their expense. Of course, then the power would not be below ground,
Mr. Haggerty stated he would prefer to have the electricity underground.
He referred to the letter dated Aug. 20, 1982, from Mr. Johnson which
stated: "In an urban renewal area wherein 75% of the buildings are
being demolished and undergrounding of electrical lines are required by
the urban renewal plan, NSP wi11 at its own expense replace its overhead
system With a standard underground system .
Then, in the letter dated March 2, 1983, Mr. Eldridge, General Manager of
the North Division, stated: "We have made a cost comparison and have
determined the additional cost of installing underground versus relocation
of overhead for the portion of the existing main feeder line on 5th St.
N.E, fran Mississippi St. to 63rd Ave. N.E. to be $48,630." Mr. Haggerty
stated this was in direct contradiction to what was stated in Mr. Johnson's
letter dated Aug. 20.
Mr. Haggerty stated he signed the contract on the office building back in
December 1982 so obviously NSP knew about the project. He felt if for no
other reason than for public relation purposes in an urban development
area, there should be sane serious consideration by NSP. From a legal
standpoint, because of the circumstances, the City wou7d go ahead and
have the service put underground but would do it under protest, reserving
the right to 90 to the Public Services Cortmission and fran there to the
courts. He thought there should be some serious consideration on the part
of NSP for a reduction in this cost because there has been an absolute
misrepresentation in writing from a municipal entity.
Mr. Johnson stated he would go back to the management people and explain
this situation to them. He stated they should have an answer for the
City by the end of the next week.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAZRPERSON PRIEDITIS DECLARED
TXE MOTZON CAItRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, MARCH 10, 1983 PAGE 5
II. MOORE LAKE DISTRICT
A. Letter from Menton C. "Duke" Addicks, �r., dated March 1, 1983,
concerning removal of residential west of Old Centra7 from
Moore Lake Redevelopment Area
Mr. Boardman stated Mr. Addicks is the attorney representing
Mr. & Mrs. Dan Nelson. They are requesting the HRA and City Council
remove these residences from the redevelopment district. The HRA had
a copy of Petition No. 2-83 dated March 8, 1983, with the signatures
of those property owners. Those signing the petition are Elaine and
Thomas Gray, Daniel and Lorraine Nelson, Gloria Wiemann, and Frances and
Edward Rush. It was his understanding that Scott Kohanek had refused
to sign the petition.
Mr. Boardman stated he would like the HRA to receive this petition
and continue discussion and decisions because some additional work
has to be done on legalities and the process for removing property
from a redevelopment district. He stated he would prepare a report
for the HRA.
MOTION BY MR. RRSMUSSEN, SECONDED BY MR. PRAIRIE� TO RECENE PETITION
N0. 2-B3 REQUESTTNG THE NRR AND CITY COUNCIL TD EXCLUDE THE RESIDENTIAL
PROPER2'Y LOCATED BETWEEN CENTRRL RVENUE RND MOORE LAKE FROM TXE
EXISTING MOORE LAKE REDEVEZAPMENT DISTRICT AND MOORE LAKE TAX INCREMENT
DISTRICT. FURTHER DISCUSSION TO BE CONTINUED AT THE NEXT MEETZNG.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON PRIEDITIS DECLARED
TNE MOTION CARRIED UNRNIMOUSLY.
B. St. Phillips Request (Memo �i83-17 from Executive Director)
Mr. Boardman stated that at the last meeting, the HRA had requested
Staff to get some estimates on soil compaction tests for the property
at Old Central and Rice Creek Road, That cost would be between
$1,500 and $2,000.
Mr. Boardman stated he attended a meeting with St. Phillips Human
Services, Inc „ on March 3. At that meeting there was some discussion
on two other possible sites that might be better sites. Unless they
get some further direction from St. Phillips, he did not think the
HRA was in a position to spend any money on soil compaction tests.
Ms. Sve�dsen stated the 5t. Phillips Human Services, Inc., will be
meeting next week and will be interested to know what action, if any,
the HRA took at this meeting.
Mr. Prieditis stated he would think the site selection would depend on
the soil conditions. How can St. Phillips select a site until they
know what the soil is like? The HRA could commit to the soil tests
regardless of whether St, Phillips picked the Moore Lake site, and they
could conceivably decide not to select it based on the soil conditio�s.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, MARCH 10, 1983 PAGE 6
Mr. Boardman stated that since the property is in a redevelopment
district and will eventually be developed, soil tests will have to
be made at some time anyway.
MOTFON BY MR, RASMUSS£N, SECONDED BY JIIt. PRAIRSE� TO RUTHOR22E
STAFF TO GO RXERD WITH SOTL COMPRCTION TESTS FOR TNE PROPERTY AT
OLD CENTRAL AND RICE CREEK ROAD.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, PRIEDITIS, PRAIRIE, AND RRSMUSSEN YOTING RYE,
SVENDSEN ABST�SMING� VSCE-CXAIRPERSON PRIEDSTIS D£CLARED TNE h10TSON
CRRRIED UNANIMDUSLY.
TII. DISCUSSION ON FISLIC PROGRAM AND BOND RESERVE FUND
Mr. Boardman stated this was brought up at the last meeting and the HRA
members were asked to review these programs for discussion at this meeting.
He stated Mr. Haggerty, Mr. McNellis fran Piper, Jaffray & Hopwood, and
Mr. Casserly from 0'Connor & Hannan were here to give a brief explanation
of the programs. Members of the City Council had also been invited to
attend as this directly affects City Council action in the passing of a
resolution.
Mr. Haggerty stated that, as Mr. Boardman had mentioned, he had given the
HRA sane materials on some programs that were available that, after dis-
cussing them with City Staff, Mr. Haggerty thought might be helpful for
adding new tools to the HRA redevelopment districts, keep businesses and
firms in Fridley, and also to attract new business. He stated he has done
a lot of work in tax increment financing, reserve systems, industria]
revenue bonds, and securities. In his work, he has been very impressed
with tYao f�rms, who are represented at this meeting.
Mr. Naggerty stated that Jim Casserly, a former partner of his, was in the
Legislature for eight years and authored most of the tax increment financing
statutes the State now has. Mr. Casserly's firm, 0'Connor & Hannan, other
than Briggs & Morgan of the St. Paul Port Authority, is the only law firm
that is a national firm that has a bond counsel and has set up a reserve
system through the City of Minneapolis, City of Blaine, and is in the
process of setting one up for the City of Marshall. However, there are a
number of other national7y recognized law firms locally that have consented
to the concept under Minnesota Statutes and federal law. In his opinion,
there was no other firm with more experience in setting up this type of
system than 0'Connor & Hannan.
Mr. Haggerty stated Piper, Jaffray & Hopwood is the only underwriting firm
he knew that has actually underwritten a program under the reserve system.
This was done in Blaine. Other programs are going on in Minneapolis.
Piper, Jaffray & Hopwood seem to have the tools and the knowledge for a
very innovative program to be used for both tax exempt financing as well as
conventional financing. He stated Terry McNellis, who worked for the City
of St. Paul for ten years, recently came to Piper, Jaffray & Hopwood, Ilis
specialty is commercia7, but primarily in housing.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHRORITY MEETING, MARCH 10, 1983 PAGE 7
Mr. Haggerty stated the reason why he brought these people together was
because he was trying to find a mechanism that would not cost the City or
the HRA any money up front and yet would be a resource that would review
what the City and the HRA has and would come back with sane ideas and tools
on how to work a program.
Mr. Haggerty stated Congress outlawed the FISLIC program so that program
will be dead as of April 14. However, the FISLIC concept can still be used
for conventional financing. There are two other types of programs similar
to FISLIC. One is called a collaterilized program which deals with
mortgages and would be the most likely one to be used in the City of Fridley.
The reserve system was another one they were looking at. Another program he
thought would be good for Fridley in helping retain companies was a commercial
rehab program.
Mr. Haggerty handed out copies of a resolution he hoped to brinq before the
City Council on Monday, March 14.
Mr. Haggerty stated 0'Connor & Hannan have been charging $10,000 to set up
a reserve system in other cities plus other fees. Piper, Jaffray & Hopwood
historically has been charging a number of fees. Through a number of
negotiations, both firms have consented to this particu7ar resolution which
has been discussed with a number of City Staff inembers as well as Larry Commers,
Chairperson of the HRA, This resolution gives 0'Connor & Hannan and Piper,
�affray & Hopwood a one year exclusive right for industrial revenue bonds and
general obligation bonds in the tax increment district. They would be bond
counsel and underwriters, but if nothing is sold, they receive no payment.
Mr, Haggerty stated he would like the HRA to lo�k over the resolution and
make a motion supporting the resolution.
Mr. Boardman stated he and Mr. Haggerty had met with Mr. Commers. Mr. Cortmers'
overall response was favorable. Ne did not have any problem with setting the
wheels in motion as long as the HRA had review power when any pro9ram was
brought back so decisions could be made. Mr. Comners had no problem with
this resolution.
MOTION BY MR. RASMUSSEN� SECONDED BY FIl2, PRAIRIE� TO APPROVE RESOLI7TION
N0. ��-19Q,3 A"RESOLUTSON RELATING TO THE DEVEIAPMENT OF A GENERAL RESERVE
BOND FUND SYSTEM, A XOUSING PROGRAM, AND R COMMERCIAL BIIILDING REHABILZTR-
TION IAAN PRO�RAMp RETRINING A SPECZAL COUNSEL FOR SUCH PURPOSES: AND DESIG-
NRTING GENERAL BOND COUNSEL FOR THE CZTY",
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� ViCE-CHAIRPERSON PRIEDiTIS DECLARED TXE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Prieditis stated he would like to thank Mr. Haggerty for his interest
in Fridley and for promoting this for the good of Fridley.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING MARCH 10 1983 PAGE 8
IV. FINANCIAL
A. Check Register
MOTION BY MR. PRAIRIE� SECONDED BY MS. SVENDSEN� TO APPROVE THE
CHECK REGISTER DATED MARCH 9, I983� IN THE AMOUNT OF $13,206.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTZNG AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON PRIEDITIS
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
B, Financial Report
Mr. Boardman stated there was no financial report. There would be
a financial report at the next meeting.
V. OTHER BUSINESS:
Mr. Boardman stated that in the agenda, he had i�cluded letters and
information dealing with the acquisition of the Tom Ryan building,
6385-6389 University Ave. N.E. He stated there was a breakdown on
relocation costs and a fixture appraisal that was submitted for Tom Wing,
Discount Batteries, tenant at 6385 University Ave. N.E. Mr. Boardman
stated an agreement has been reached on the fixtures in the amount of
$2,695 and on the relocation cost in the amount of $3,616. Included was
a report from the relocation consultant. He stated he would like the
HRA to approve these payments.
MOTION BY F42. RRSMUSSEN, SECONDED BY MS. SVENDSEN� TO APPROVE A PAYMENT
OF $2�695 FOR FIXTURE RCQUISITZON AND $3�6Z6 FOR RELOCATTON COSTS TO
TOM WING, DISCOUNT BATTERIES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE� VZCE-CAASRPERSON PFSEDITIS DECLARED
TXE M02IDN CRRRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ADJDURNMENT;
MOTION BY MR. RRSMUSSEN, SECONDED BY MR. PRRIRIE, TO AA7WRN THE MEE2ING. UPON
A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON PRZEDITIS DECLARED THE MRR, I0� 1983�
HWSZNG & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING RA7WRNED AT 9:30 P,M.
Respectfully sub�itted,
<ti
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Recording Secretary
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4tl.iers=�'�'esent: :Bi1t Deblon, Associate Planner .' �
Bob Hutthison, Director of Envi�ental Services, AnQka County
1�IPRQVAL 0�•FEBRtJARY 75t J983i_E�tYIRpNMENTAL QUALITY CtiN�tISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY lyR, P,ETERSON� SECONDED BY Mtt. GRONLUNDf T� APtjROVE TXS FEB, 15, 29B3,
li7�k�iR�XTAL QVALITY COMMZSSION MINUTES AS WRI!`T�N.
� UPON.�I itpTLE N01"E'��:��,ALL VOTING AYE� CNAIRPERSON $V,A�;•AE'C`LARED THE MOTION �� .
�.'ARRl"E$ IfNANZMi7USIr#'.
�3: .: COMTINIfED: tkISGU�SI�4 OF ANOKA COUNTY SQt,�£�,'FIA�TE MANAGEMENT PLAN -
��,,� S�anda stated thk� �n Mr. Hutchison aLt�nded the ERC'meetirtg in Noy. 19R1;
; 4��� �ni�sion had w�'�,<deas on what the County was doing with respect to the
'�,�►�i.r+� pracess a»d #�t �t input frarr Mr, Ht�tehisgn on what the Gity could do
�� vYit;h res�eGt ta,p�ann�,,�me type of solid awaste+aetivities for the City of
��Fr�titey. After that� '�'{G�mnission was k5ne! 6t "an hold" pending receipt of
��� so]id.waste plan f�r`�ntoka Gounty, In th� p1a►� he had notited a provision
° �;�e kiaste'Managem�t i� that stated sanetfii�sg YA the effect that if a local
� "���^� �f gatrernmen3�fapt,�r€s seme sol�id�waste r�3aetio��program that reduces�the
��;t� �TceBm fOr� that 8�;, there is the possi�ii#�,� of that local un�t of govern-
� n�t�t'g$tting e credit Qt� L'xt� fiinancial co�m+ab�nt_ it would have to make on any
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� - �. 1#��chison stated it, i� a milt levy that is .p�;��ed on ali metropolitan
� _��t�"ty to pay off f)5 mi3lion in Metropolitan Counci] bonding to pay off
va, �c�f{11 Costs, Ii a c�nutnity put in curhside source separation, for example,
°"��'� :t#�u'�d �et a credit, but .the amount of credit wauld vary sfepending on the
i �`e�..of dbat�net�t #or that conpnurtity. The iotent was to give an abatement
- �e55�#�atly based on the amaunt of reduction, The i��ention was based on fair-
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Mr,, Retersom Stated it wtauTdn't be such a probiptn in Columbia Heights. for
example, where'they have municipal collection, but i� Fridley,where there are
pwany hauters, 9t cauld be a reat bookkeeping problem.
Mr. Hutchison stated the City of fridley is divided into three voting wards.
Rbughiy 75pQ dwelling units wiil keep one garbage truck busy five days a week.
Tf they eould split the C3ty up i� such a way #hat each erea or ward cou]d keep
a cewp'te of trucks busy a11 weeic,"they could frdve several hauters invcttved and
not tse tied to`one. The Gity eou7d then set �tp contraets with these haulers.
Mr, Svanda stated the Commiss9on fiet with the Gfty CQUn�il several months ago
before receivirg the Anoka �oU�rty-plan. He stated they felt the City Council
was fairly receptive. The City Ct�uncil appre�i�ted the work the Commission was
prappsfng to do an -s�7id waste, bat'they real,t;y tlidn'.t want the :Correnissit�n to
da nnything that wo��tsi i'nvot�e 6i:�.y`governmen�. 'He statetl the C�mmission had
counted on getting tt�e pian and being able to �s�e things in the p1an, sueh as
it� credif incentiu� mentiar�d earlier. '
Mr. Suamia stated he is atsa on a•committee far Yhe Metropolitan Councii, and
th�y have been reviewing the +rar�ous courtty ptans, from'a publit parti;cipation
stand�aoint, Anoka Caunty's plan is not signi�fcantly differ�nt �hart any of the
otlrer courtty plans. Publit yartitipatiorr seems rather minimized.
Mr. Hutcfiison stat8d that doesn`S'come through in the p7a�, Dut'Lhey have had
exposure in terms o£ publie exposure, possibly longer than any pf Ehe other
¢ounties. They had meetielgs and gpt pub}ic inpU't in regard to waste abatement
antt iandfiTi sitiRgs.
Mr. Hutihison states3 he �an�ed to mention thdt this wasn't a"pian" yet; it is
the Courtty of Anolra i�nd Abattment Report" art� won't beeome a plan in tfie form
it is now. The purpose �s to Qravide MetropoTitan Gouncit with seu�n;proposals.
Nietropolitan Councf.� wi1T:�take tt�e proposals' artd put them fnto atr abaiement sec-
tion in the Satid t#�Ste flevelopment Guide, which wi11 essentia71y turn �rround
and give fhe cauntie� their marching orders. At that point, the County wiii
modify its s�7id waste �lan to be consistent wiih r,fie Solid Waste peve7o�ment
Guide. Rt this tim�.`he did not know what form #hat wou7d take;, �
Mr. Hutchison stated th�t the EnvironmenLal Ccammittee had talked about specific
� abatement proposa3s> but they felt they.shouldn't suggest a tourse of action that
litera7ly prohibits.3n ahat€ment a}ternative, They agreed things need to be
dane, but ihe Ca�nittee didn't feel it was reaTistic to say they were qoina to
tle�end upon waste'reduttion to accompiisfi a significant red�ctfon in )andfill
waste, They felt that whatever was prDposed should not be overly optimistit,
but should be a'safe se�eure proposat.
Mr, Hutthison stated the seCOrrd el�ment was wa4te Separatian. Ne referred to
a chart on "�laste Manageme�t QtiOns" on page 48.of tE�e ;Cand Abatement Report;
He staEpd that in t�lki»g;;with the kbatement Committee and Envirnranent8l Service
�nsittee, they ditl�'# feel cttrbside sou:rce separatipm would make a big:enough
ilent far them to ¢ri# �tt their efforts to�ard it, 'they do think curbside source
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�1� iake; a.��'oi of vt�t�.::�� they-are sugges�ing it aright not be that big. Yard
Naste repr�er�LS 15-77X of the apnuai wasta stream, and<they fett yard waste com-
ptt5ting ts�'�c1-1��kE a significant dent, but it requires separate pick-up. MCS,
� has the°Ct��ufibia Heights contract, has done a separate leave cnilection in
n������}� He�i�its.for the la�t tkvo years. The leaves are hauled and crnnposed i�
�����f��e, !fie w the hauter did not tose money orr i�e operation and may even have
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�� Mr, H�tchissR stated tha� in.any��event, �hrough r��3t� .re��+ctinn and sep�ratiqn, �
�her.e.is sti11 a large v�lume of waste that is rwt being addressed and that
has �+o be thrnugh'some I�I.n�,,o'f processing.
klr: 5ve�da asked why it�;e �€forts seem to �e concentrated on being adciressed
at,the ia�at levet. �� � � �
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; A4r'. Hutci�iscn stated i�e #�racticality of the curbside source separation effort
is tfe� to the nature of the collection servaces provided, historically, and
;, �� through expressed sfiatements by the County 8oard. The Gounty Board feels
that is some�lsing the c3ties are into and it should be left that way, The
�ciun�Ey dt�es,n`t feel it is appropriate for them to get involved in cotlectian.
He' tem#ed ta �gree with Lfiat. He stated that r�arding public'education, most
ct�nmunit5es Fiave Sane type of newsletter, and tliat should be utilized. Another
aiechartiS�n for public education is through the #�illing system.
Mn: �±�cl� staLed that when Mr. Hutchison a�d Gearge 5teiner made their presenta-
tf�n-t+b the Larid abatement Sub-comnittee, Mr. Steiner indicated they were
l.tlok#� at the possibilit�y.uf amending the }wbtic pe�rticipation part of the
rqport. :Had Mr. HutcP��,S�A given-this any fua^the+�'thought? '`
�, H4�ttfifsOn statPd t#��? have tried but ha+�en't yet succeeded. They feel the
�t�L.'f�nction the Courtty:ca» do is to be the facitiLator; they-ca�not fill Yhe
;.��e �►f pro�iding the edu�atio� and the motiyation needed, for example, for
�i�'bside- source separatf@n. Aiso, without any ca�►trol over the collection system,
er:�there fs ►~ea11y no way t�iey cou:ld aeeomplish that.
' 1�;:. Petersors stated Mis concern when reading tMe= report was he felt source
s�taratfpn had gotten s7ighted. He could urrd€�stand Mr. Hutchison's po�nt
r��arding:not expecting too much and that it h�s::C� come from the city, but
�;;.•bQt�►ered him that tt��;GOUnty was not end4rsi�, t�r, promoting source separation.
�?;.Nutch�san stateQ �h+,�,in #he narrative 4f the report. processing seems to
,s�3� a little bright�r, ,;,litrrrever, it was nqt bSs 'intent to slight source separar
f��1., The phitosophy.4�:�##�at the waste stream �S,is, t6-be attaeked by every method
�t i.s avnilable. After the waste is generated, the next point at which to
,-- ���ack #he wu�ste"stream is through waste separ��ion, i.e., source separated Curb-
�: S�j�e pttk-up..recyciinq centers, yard waste composing, saluaging, etc. They
�� S�n`L feel t#se.report prahibits any of tfie waste'management alternatives listed
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either Lhe iand€i11 cr a prt�rtessta9 #aci19)ity is corssistent with what is in
the r�port. If the mu�icipa7itie`s are able Lo actomplTSh a?0-30-4U� reduction
fn'Naste volume through curbside source separ�ted pick-up. it would not adversely
affect tfie processing end; in fact it woutd actual7y enhance it.
Mr. Hutchison stated what-LY�y are suggesting is that ff the.cities caa-attack
the waste stream at the wasLe sepdration`poini;,that is fine; but they also feel
there are actors that can;play a'�arger role in the Gounty and tha# is why
source separation'came across as;being p7ayed down. It wasn`t meant to be, but
after a11 is said and done, they feel there sti11 needs to be pracessing.
Assuming pwocessing would be provided by Anoka County, they fielt th� folTowing
processing pptions were tMe teast desfra[ile:
t, Baling - does rw t.reduc� the long-tec`m management desired and
wi71 �iii'C require targe q�antity of 7andfill!space.:
2: Incinerat5�t brrririrrg - tastly; no energy recovery
3. Shredding -�rou1d �rabab]y be the most tlesirable if the County doesn't
go with RDf ;(refuse deriued fuel};processing.
Mr, Qeblon stated Wayne Ylettan, abo works for Carter Day'and whp has had qui'te
a 1Dt of experience r�ith"cOmbusti'on equipment, was in attendane� at the last
EQC meeting. He did rtot`reco�nend RDf systems es they require tofl much maintenance
afxl are too'expensirte. He recortmended the starved-air syst�.
Mr. Mutchison stated;anat�er thing they dre tonsiderirtg 'atong wfth processinq
fs that there is ala�ys gct#ng to:be some'need`for a}andfil7. Because of the
sail situation in Anoka �nty. they have been leaning towards an �ccelerated
decomposition landfiil (metharte gas).
Pir. �var�da stated tt�+e Ca�ni§sion is planning�to have a meeting and invite the
hauTers to get some dial�gpe goir� on what the hauTers fee7 about saurce separa-
tian,__He asked Mr. fiutch#scn if;he thought fhe haulers would bR rPCeptive to
curDside sourCe separation.
idr. Hutchison stated;ti�ey might." If it is a municipal contract, that tan be
written into the canYract. A lot more can be done by contract then Can be dane
by ordinaoce. He siated source separation is being required in'some cities.
Mr. Svanda thanked Mtr. Nutchison'for coming Lo the meeti'ng. He stated it was
very helpful for the Commissiprr to express its toncerns a�d to knaw where the
County xas caning #rom in>terms af'waste>managert�ent.
Mr. Hutchjson stated he did not foresee another draft of the report until about
#Mis time'eext year. He stated if the ComisSion members had any further
questians, they were to fieel #ree to calt bim.
2. DfYELDRMENT OF A6ENOR<FOR RE�USE HAUCERS MfETIN6: -
This �tem was con#z�+ed un#�1 tMe' rtext meeting where it wilt be`the first item
on tF+e agenda.
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`� l�. ile�st�r�'-�St�'E�[ #he Commissipn members�� had copies.C�f� the HUD regulations ��
fa� i�. `1"tfe three main criteria are: (1) mus# b�fit tow and moderate
i��i�ie�; {2j �+st'aid in-the prevention ar �limination of slums or
t�� `#� �3) etnergency funding. He stated if 3he C�renission feels cr�rbside
`�3 " �:��farts shoutd be funded with CDB6 montes, they will have to yustify
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�;.. S�re�a,asked Mr, �eblon to o6tain a copy of St. Louis Park's grant proposal
ta use as a guide.
Further di'SCUSSaon was cantinued until the next meeting.
;.: 4.i C4iNT3NUEQ: HAZARDAUS WASTE PROLESSING fACILITY
�tr:. Qsblon stated there would be a formal public hearing on this subject at
,ErSd�ey City Nal]'an Tues., ApriT 19, from i:Qp-SzpQ p.m, and 7:00-10:00 p.m.
,„ Fi�=_SGatBa! ar#ic]es have been prepared for the 5un Newspaper, city newsletter, and
a�p�nunfty seG�ion'of the Minrreapo)is Star b TraEune. Fhe cortmunity billboard
°h�:s atso be�n.;r�served for this announcement.
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Mr. D�b�on asked if the Commission would Ytke ta continue on with their :
19�2 warkp}an and upQate it accordingly;far.l4$3; 'He stated it has
been a sl� pro��s�.for the Comni'ssion as �ey t�ue had to wait for
MeLropo]itan Cau�eti7�.8nd Anoka County ptans #n Order to parallel the
:��nisston's wOr��s with Metropolitan G�nci1's and Anoka Coanty`s
,..:�+rkptans.
` s° AiL?9'FON SY HR, PE�$QN, SECONDBD 8Y J�t. GRONLUtJ'J, TO REpUEST STAFF
TL> i1PDATE'T(fE ,i$l,�-,F�kRKPLAN AS fiECESSARY.TO COINCIDE WITN TNE ENIVIRON-
,". �� A�NTAL QUAI�I'T:.CZ�JiS$SON'S i983_ GOALS AND OBJSCTIVES. � �� �
�,�; . UPQN A VOSCE �..Jlj,L:�VOTIHG AYE, CNAIRPERS'�tjN SVANDR��DEC3.ARED:THE
�'- �'ION CRI3RISA ��'�1rLY.
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Mr. Svanda stat ;� '�a�t since this meFL��tg,�s the same night as the
public heartng e�iR �` ;hazardous was�=`= Ssifig facility, he suggested
the Comnission a�s rs sr to the ubl#�earin at 7:00 and 1an to
: �convene iE�e Cortmis�i�n n�stinn:at 8: ,��,�. �� � �
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ADJOURt�tEiJ�:
1101'ION BY FJR. GRONLUND� SECONDED 8Y MR. PETERSON, TO AAtI'WRN 9'XE XEE27NG.
UPON A VOICS VOTS, AZL VOTIN6 AYEj GHRSRPERSOTt SVANDR DECLARED TNE NRRCH 15� 1983,
SNVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSSflN liEETING RAlOilRNEII AT 30rIi P.AI:
Respectfully submitted.
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Recarding Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION
SPECIAL h1EETING
MARCH 17, 1983
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Goodspeed called the March 17, 1983,.Human Resources Commission
special meeting to order at 7:11 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Menbers Present: Brian Goodspeed, Lynn Boergerhoff, Mary van Dan,
Peter 7reuenfels
Meribers Absent: Jayne Noble
Others Present: Kent Hill, Economic Development Assistant
APPROUAL OF MARCH 3. 1983. HUMAtI RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTICN BY MS. VAN DAN, SECOrJDED BY MR. TRE7JENFEZS, TO APPROVE THE MARCH 3, 19B3,
NU71R:J RESOURCES COMMZSSION MINUTES.WITX THE FOLLOWZNG CORRECTIOIJ:
PRGE 2, 15T PARAGRRPN, LINE 13, CNANGE "EXCESSIBLE" TO "RCCESSIBLE".
UPON R VOICE VOSE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAZRPERSON COODSPEED DECLARED TXE MOTZOPI
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. OLD BUSINE55:
a. Discuss the b1,000 Comnunity Program Award fran the National
Organization on Disability _
Mr. Boergerhoff stated the Commission had received a copy of the
letter dated March 8, 1983, fran the National Organization on
Disability informing them that Fridley had been selected to receive
a 51,000 Community Award,
Mr. Boergerhoff stated there will be an awards �eremony on April 5
in Washington D. C., and they are requesting that a representative
from the community attend. The award ceremony will be held in con-
junction with a Congressional Hearing which is serving as a kickoff
to the "Decade of Disabled Persons". He stated he felt it would be
appropriate for them to have someone attend the award ceremony to
represent the IYDP Committee, basically because it has been a community-
6ased and volunteer effort since its beginning in April 1981.
HUMAN RESOURCES CONMISSION SPECIAL MEETIPlG, MARCH 17, 1983 PA6E 2
Mr. Boergerhoff stated a city employee, Bill Hunt, will be in
Washington D.C, at this time and would be abTe to attend the award
ceremony as a representative of Fridley. In light of the fact that
the International Year was based on comnunity incentives and support
from non-governmental sources, he felt it might be more appropriate
for them to send a representative of the IYDP Cortmittee.
Mr. Boergerhoff stated the idea is to continue the interest and
canmunity awareness throughout the Decade of the 80's. He thouqht
the national organization will want to pursue that and will want
cormiunity liaisons to continue through the years. He stated he has
been serving as the liaison for the last two years and would like to
continue for the foreseeable future and possibly as lonq as the need
exists in the comnunity.
Mr. Boergerhoff stated St. Cloud also won an equivalent award of
b1,000, and Wadena Township got an honorable mention. There were
13 Commurtity Awards and two were given to Minnesota.
Mr. Hill stated a memo prepared by Jerry Boardman and Bill Hunt went
out from the City Manager's office on March 9th to the news media
telling about the award.
Mr. Goodspeed stated that at the Planning Commission meeting the
evening before, the Planning Comnission members feit the City should
not spend the money to send someone to Washington D.C. The Planning
Commission suggested that a representative of Fridley already out there
accept the award. They aTso suggested that Conqressman Sikorski's
office be contacted to see if Congressman 5ikorski would be aiilling to
present the award at a ceremony at fridley City Hall, with the news
media included, after the award has arrived here.
Mr. Boergerhoff stated he has talked to Kathy 4Jingen, community
liaison for St. Cloud with the National Organization on Disability.
Ms. Wingen and one other representative will be attending the award
ceremony.in Washington D.C. He stated he did understand the City's
position regarding expenses. However, he felt the City was likely to
benefit from the very positive publicity from this, and they are going
to get a return for their investment that may not be valued in dollars
at this point but will support a positive image of the City.
Ms. van Dan stated that when you look at fridley as being one
community out of 1850 comnunities that competed, someone should be
there, not on7y a city representative, but someone who actually did
the work.
Mr. Boergerhoff stated they will receive the aY�ard, whether or nc�
somecne attends the award ceremony in 4lashington D.C. Bringing the
award to Fridley and having the presentation here was a very Qood
alternative, as long as the people who worked on the project get the
recognition for their efforts. If that occurs here in the cormnunity,
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION SPEGIAL MEETING, MARCH 17, 1983 PAGE 3
it might have as good an impact as what they miqht get in
Washington D.C.
Ms. van Dan suggested they try to qet Senator Durenburger involved
as he is involved in aging and health.
MOTION BY MR. TREUENFELS� SECONDED BY MS. VAN DAN� TO ASA CITY STAFF
TO DRAFT A LETTER ON BEHALF OF TH£ HUMAN RESOURCES COMd175570N OF
FRZDLEY TO ASK CONGRESSMAN JERRY SIKORSKI AND SENATOR DAVE DURE!VBERGER
TD ACCEPT THE COMMUNITY PROGRAM AWARD IN WASHINGTON D.C. ON APRIL STH
ON BENALF OF THE CZTY OF FRZDLEY AND TO PRESENT THIS Rh'ARD TO TXE
HUMA11 RESOURCES COMMISSION AT RN APPROPRZATE CERE.+fOlJY AT CZTY HALL.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG RYE� CHRZRPERSON GOODSPEED DECLARED
THE MOTIOt! CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
b. Discuss 1983 Workplan
Mr, Goodspeed stated the Planning Commission had concurred with this
workplan at their meeting the evening before.
Mr. Hill stated this workplan would go to the City Council on March 28th.
He would encourage the Cortmission members to attend that meeting,
Ms.van Dan stated that her goal on "Volunteerism" was not included in
the workplan.
Mr. Hill stated that in the shuffle of papers at the 7ast meeting,
Ms. van Dan's part of the workplan must have been left out accidentally.
He apologized and stated it would be included in the workplan before
going to City Council.
The Commission members changed the goal, "Civilian Defense" to
"Disaster Preparedness". -
Mr. Hill stated the Community Development Commission will probably
try to link up with the Human Resources Commission on certain items,
possibly having some canbined meetings fran time to tine throughout
the year, He stated the Human Resources Comnission will be receivinn
a copy of the Community Devetopment Commission workplan.
Mr. Treuenfels stated that since it looks like the Human Resources
Cormission will 6e working quite closely with the Community Development
Comnission, they would appreciate receiving a copy of the Community
Development Commission workplan and the Cor�nunity Development Commission
should receive a copy of the Human Resources Comnission workplan. As
far as other commissions having a copy of the Human Resources Cormission
workplan, if they wish to receive one, they are welcome to have one.
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING, MARCH 17, 1983 PAGE 4
Ms, van Dan stated that when anything is happening in the City that
refers to human resources, the Commission would appreciate having
that portion copied and sent to them,
c. Project Reports
There were no project reports.
2. NEW BUSINESS:
a. Discuss the "Decade of Disabled Persons" 1983-1992
Mr. Hill stated the Commission members had two letters in their
agenda material from the National Organization on Disability and
the United States Conference of Mayors. On Dec. 3, ]982, the United
Nations General Assembly proclaimed the period 1983-1992 as the
"Decade of Disabled Persons". He stated the Cortmission may want to
make a motion to the City Council recommending that the City Council
issue a proclamation supporting this.
2XRT TNE
ELS. SECONDED 8Y MS. VAN DAN. TO RECOMMEND
DISABLED PERSONS"
UPON A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GOODSPEED DECLARED
TNE MOTION CARRSED UNANIMOUSLY.
MOTZON BY MS. VN1 DAN� SECONDED BY AO2. TREUENFELS� THAT LYNN BOERGERHOFF
CONTZNUE AS TXE LZRZSON TO THE NATIONAL ORGRPiIZATION ON DISABILITY.
UPON R VOICE VOTE, RLL VOTZNG AYE� CHAZRPERSON GOODSPEED DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY.
Mr, Treuenfels stated the U.S. Conference of Mayors also rQCOmmended
that the liaison hold a planning meeting as soon as possible on local
community's plans for the Decade. He stated he would urge
Mr. Boergerhoff to start thinking about maybe putting together a
comnittee to do some brainstorming and come up with such a program.
He s#ated there was certainty no urgency on this.
Mr, Boergerhoff stated he would work on it.
b. Agenda Items for the April 7, 1983, Meeting
Mr, Goodspeed stated he would have a report at the next meetinq on
a sample poll of businesses to see what kind of interest there is
for a low interest loan program for specifically needed items regarding
barrier removal and upgrading faciiities for the handicapped.
HUHAN RESOURCES COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING MARCH 17 1983 PAGE 5
Mr. Treuenfels stated that regarding the funding of service organiza-
tions, he had attended the City Councit meeting on Feb. 28 when the
recanmendations for CDBG �onies was to be discussed. He stated the
City Council approved the 10% the Human Resources Comnission/Community
Development Cortmission had recanmended (the maximum allowed for funding
service organizations) with one modification. He stated the senior
citizens have already approached the City Council and asked for 54,000.
So, the City Council came up with a proposal that there be two cate-
gories for competing for funds: (1) regular human service organizations;
and (2) public services.
Mr. Hill stated the City Council is looking at having the Human Resources
Corrmission handle the regular human service organization fundinq requests
and possibly having the Community Development Commission handle the
public service funding requests.
Mr. Treuenfels stated this would mean that the Human Resources
Commission's funding guidelines would have to be changed, If they get
the direction from the City Council, they could review these guidelines
at the next meeting.
Mr. Boergerhoff stated the first aspect in the workplan he had proposed
involved sharing canmission workplans with other communities. They
may gain some insight into how other com�unities use their guidelines
for evaluating funding proposals. He thought perhaps the first step
would be to compose a letter to other human resources cortmissions pro-
posing this. If the response is favorable, they could exchange plans;
if not, they may get an indication that other Communities are not
interested,
Mr. Hill stated he recently did a survey for the Corrrnunity Development
Corm�ission of the first-ring suburbs to find out what commissions other
cortenunities do have. So, he has the information on which canmunities
have human resources or human rights canmissions. .
Mr. Treuenfels stated that regardin9 the No-Fault Grievance Committee,
they should start workin9 on a plan for publicizing and contactinq people.
They should review the waiver form in the No-Fault Grievance Procedure
manual at the next meeting and then present it to legal counsel for
review.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY HR. BOERGERHOFF, SECONDED BY AII2. TREUENFEIS, TD AA70URN THE MEETING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CXRIRPERSON GOODSPEED DECLARED THE MW2, I7, 19B3,
HUAfRN�RESWRCES COMMISSZON SPECIAL MEETZNG AA70URNED AT 8:25 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
A /
` �"Y'hL ^''�C-�L^-tLi
Lynne Saba
Recording Secretary
City of Fridley
APP�A!.S rOMMI5SI0N MEETING - TUESDAY MARCH 22 1983 PAGE 1
CALL 7� ORDER:
Chairperson Gabel called the Appeals Comnission Meeting of Tuesday, March 22, 1983
to order at 7:30 p.m.
R LL CALL:
Members Present: Patricia Gabel, Alex Barna, Jim Ptemel, Jean Gerou,
Donald Betzold
Others Present: Darrell Ctark, City of fridley
Will Harris, 6400 Central Avenue M.E.
James Sydow, 7863 Alden Way N.E.
Gary Gunther, 12660 - 63rd Avenue North
Dick Harris, 63Q0 Riverview Terrace
Rose DeMarats, 6411 Pierce Street N.E.
Doris Bergman, 6435 Pierce Street N.E.
Clara Dubanaski, 6423 Pierce Street N.E.
Lynn Hansen, 2�f1 Rice Creek Boulevard
APPROYAL OF MINUTES OF FEBRUf.RY 15, 1983:
A sentence was added to the paragraph just before the last motion, "The concerned
aeighbors were not present to see the stabilization plans for the fence." A word
was changed from "deed" to "record" on page 5, last paragraph before the adjourn-
ment and last word in sentence.
MOTION by Mr. Betzold, seconded by Mr. Barna, to approve the minutes as corrected.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL YOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSIY.
1
MOTIONby Mrs. Gerou, seconded by Mr. Barna, to open the publit hearing. UPON A
VOICE YOTE, A�L YOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOTIDN CARRIED UkANIMOUSLY.
Chairperson Gabel read the Staff Report:
�peals Cortmission Meeting - February 15, 1983 Paae 2
ADMINISTAA7IVE STAFF REPORT
77d0-5� Nain Strest N.E.
A. PUBISC PURPOSE SERVED BK REOIIIREMEN7:
Ssction 205.134, 3A, rest�icts a oae etory Duitding and alt accassory
buildings from covering more than 40 percent of the lot erea.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to provide for adequate
perkinp, open landsceped erees snd to lioit congestion of industriel arees.
Section 205.134, 4C, �aquires a rear yerd deptfi of not less tfien 25 feet,
■ith en additionel foot of �ear yerd deptfi for each 4 feet or portion of
buildinp hafght over 35 feet.
Pubtfc purpose served by tAis requirement ie to provide adequete open spece
ereas around industriel structures for aesthetic and fire fighting
purposes.
8. STATEO NARDSNIQ:
�
"Reer Yerd: To line up •ith existi�g Duildings in the beck.
Area Coverage: To aLign Lhe frunt of buildin0 with azisting building to the
eouth."
_ C. ADMINISTAATSVE STAFF REYIEM:
Thie requeet is to vary the nexisum lot coverege of Lots 1- 10, Block 8,
OneMey Addition, from the required 40% to 40.57% end to very the reer yard
buiLding setbeck on Lnts 4-6, BLock 8, Onawey Addition, from the required
25 feet to 8 feet to construct sn BO foot by 80 foot �arehouse.
The south 1DD foot by 80 foot officelwarehouse building ■as constructed on
Lnts 6-'10, Block B, OnaNey Addition, in 1970. The north 1DD foot by 8D foot
officelwarehouse build5ng ■as constructad on Lots 1-5, Block 8, Ona�ey
Addition, in 1974 and raquired t�o variences: A rear rard buitdir�g setDeck
from tfie required 25 feet to 8 feet, and s parking setbeck from the ■est
property li�e from the required 5 feet to 0 feet, �hich were npproved by
the City Council an Ju�e 3, 1974 •ith eipht stipuletione.
If epprored, the Appeals Commiesion oey ■ent to conaider the follo�ing
items:
1. Desipnete and edequataly acreen elt outside storage erees to the south,
norih end rast.
2. Keep lots picked up and free from Litter end debrls.
9. Meintein hard surfacine, snd
4. Mork with the City eteff on en epproved Landscepe plan.
5. Oestgnate at teest 35 ten foot parking stelle.
6. Allo■ the tenents of Lots 4-6 tq.park in eveiLable perking etetts on
eithar Lote 1-3 end Lots 7-70.
Appeals Comnission Meeting - March 22, 1983 Page 3
Mr. Richard Harris was present and presented his plans for the warehouse along with
elevations and photos of the area. He said the front of all three building woutd be
uniform and the plans presently show 42 parking stalls but that may be reduced to
39 because of an overhead door. He said the addition will be between the two existing
buiidings and he may move into one half of the new building. Ne said he has 8 feet
in back of the buiiding that is paved. Ms. Gabel asked if that was enough room for
f�*�fiqhting and he stated it was. Ms. Gabel asked about the extraneous material
=:rea and Mr. Harris said it belongs to someone else and also, the buildings
-:-,, upqraded for energy. He said the 7oading and unloading will be done in
t'�e front. Ms. Gabe1 noted that everything seems to be pretty consistent; the roof
lines are all equal. Mr. Harris said he had no probtem with the stipulations stated
in the Staff Report. Ne also stated Lhat all of his equipment is stored inside of
the cyclone fence and he has been selling a lot of his heavy equipment. He said
he hoped to start construction this sumner.
MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mrs. Gerou, Lo close the public hearing. UPON A
YOICE YOTE, ALL VOTING AYF, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARIN6 CLOSED
AT 7:45 P.M.
DTSCUSSion: Mr. Plemel felt the area would be upgraded and look better. Mr. Betzoid
said the addition would complete the existing setting and Ms. Gabel felt it was
pretty consistent.
M07ION by Mr. Betzold, seconded by Mr. Barna, that the Appeals Corrmission recommend
to the Gity Cou�cil, thro�gh the Planning Cortmission, approval of the variance request
to reduce the rear yard setback from the required 20 feet to 8 feet; and to increase
thF inaximum percent of the area of a lot allowed to be covered by the main building
-»"" to 40.56%, to allow the construction of a warehouse 80 feet 6y 80 feet
'710-7)20 and 7780-7790 Main Street N.E., located on Lots 1-10, Block 8,
�+♦: : ihe same being 7740-7750 Main Street N.E., Fridley, Minnesota, 55432, with
the following stipulations:
1. Designate and adequately screen all outside storage areas to the south,
north and west;
Keep lots picked up and free from litter and debris;
Mai�tain hard surfacing; -
Work with the City staff on an approved landscape plan;
Designate at least 35 ten-foot parking stalls;
Allow the tenants of lots 4-6 to park in available parking stalis on
either lots 1-3 and lots 7-10;
UPON A VOICE YOTE, ALL V07ING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLAREO THE MOTION CRRRIED
UNANIY�USLY.
Appeals Comnission Meeting - March 22, 1983 Paqe 4
MOTION by Mr. Betzold, seconded by Mrs. Gerou, to open the public hearing. UPON A
VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT
7:47 P.M.
Chairperson 6abe1 read the Staff Report:
ADMINISTRATIYE STAFF REPORT
6400 Central Avsnus N.E.
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVEO BY REOLIREMENT:
SectTon 205.134, 8, �equires e sida yerd •tdth of not Less then 15 feet.
PublSc purpose served by thfs �equirement iB to provlde edequate open epece
erees sround industriet ctructuras for eesthetic snd fire fighting
purposes.
Section 205.134, 6, requires a■SnSmum street line lfront) setback of 100
feet, ■here M-1 property adjoins or tc sdJecent to any other zoning
distMct.
Public purpose served by this requtreAent te to avoid conpestion {n the
public etraet, traffic hezerde and other dangare, end to protect end
conserve the cherecter of any adjoining neiphborhood or future neighho�hood
in the eeme vicfnity.
B. STATED HARDSHIP:
"Only feasiDle place on the loL to conforn to existing 6uitding end we
•ent to conform to the cotor echeme on the existing building. The beck of
the lot conteins storm se�ers end would be used for perkinp. Wood cretes
■outd be pleced under cover."
C. ADMINISTAATIVE STAFF REVIEIf:
This request is to very e required front yerd building setback, edjacent to
e rasidantial district, from 10D feet to 72 feet, snd to very e required
side yerd building setbeck fran 15 feet to D feet, to construct a 40 foat
by 100 fopt warehouse.
Two veriences, •{th etipuletions, rere epproved by the Cfty Council on
Jenuery 2�, 1975: I11 To reduce e �equired front yerd building setbeck from
10U feet to �6 feet, and (2) To reduce a required side yard building
cetback from 15 feet Lo 0 feet.
A request to very e 6uilding satbeck from 50 feet to 3 feet •es rithdra�n
on August 29, 1972 6ecause a neighbor ohJected to the closeness of the
Eutlding to his residantiel p�operty.
TAe City hes received several telapho�e celt6 from nei8hbors regarding this
request. Tha ■ain cancarns are the teck ot sereeninp ot the storege arae
froo the residentiel proparty and Lha upkeap of the atorape area.
If this request is approved, the foLloKinp iteAS eey ha co�stdered:
1. Additionel screening needed alon8 the �est property lina.
2. Abide by Rice Creek Metarshed Dietrict'e rseanmendetion for storm■ater
�snaoement es stated in oeryoits #83-08 snd #75-31.
Appeals Cortmission Meeting - March 22, 1983 Paae 5
3. 15 toot bike�ey/Malk�ay sesement needed elang sasi p�operiy itne.
4. Mork with City steff Lo cowplete an epproved landscape plsn.
8. St Npe perkiny sress tar 10 font perkinp stslls.
B. Mork �1th Cfty �taff to b�in8 propsrty lnto comptisnce reperdinp
pe�kinp lot setbackc.
Mr. Clark restated the history of the variances on the property and said now the
petitioner wants to add to the north end of the building, to the north property line,
whic` �= �.1d take up all frontage except for the driveway. He said they rrould be
addis_ ;;tipulation regarding the sanitary sewer that is 10 feet north of the
proper4.� iine and the footings of the structure will have to be deep enough. He
said that he spoke with Mr. Harris who is proposing the building to be built out
of steel and the support system xill be driven posts. He said as long as they are
deeper than 10 feet they should not cause a problem with the sewer maintenance.
Mr. Clark said the screening fence needs to be repaired (slats) a�d Mr. Harris is
probably storing materials Aigher than the fence and it is visible to the neighbors.
He said the repairing of the fence should address the concerns of the neighbors.
Ms. Gabel asked about zoning to the north and south. Mr. Clark stated it is zoned
commercial.
Mr. Harris brought up some plans and sketches of the building and stated that he
�`^e�. roL run semis in there. Ms. Gabel asked what he planned to use the building
said they handle a lot of overseas boxes, 4'XS'X8', and the new building
� ' for storing those boxes; they are presently stored outside. Mr. Barna
nore:. :,,-t of the problem i�, ihat he is storing the boxes higher than the fence.
Ms. 6abel asked if there was any reason why he could not add somewhere around
outside and he they have a dock outside and the new addition will be able to store
these boxes un�er cover. Mr. Barna noted that part of the hardship is to get rid
of outside storage. Mr. Plemel asked about fire protection from the lot line to the
north. Mr. Clark stated that the fire rating of that will have to be at least one
hour. ,
Mr. Harris said the buildings will be different levels and he will tie them in with
a coloring scheme and painting. Ms. Gabel asked how he will get from the new building
to Lhe existirtg building. He said there wi11 6e a service door inthe front; they
will be separate buildings. Mr. Clark said the existing wall is a fire wall and
the north wall of the new building will have to be a fire wa11. Mrs. 6erou noted
that the two end buildings will be higher than the middle building. Ms. Gabel
was not pleased with the building levels and asked if he could build to the same
heiGht. Mr. Clark said another route would be to build masonry as the other buiiding.
Mr. ••,=rri= said the new building will be the same hei:ht as the South buildirg. He said
the ne.. �oiiding will not be heated as it will be 4_�d strictly for storage.
Mrs. Doris Bergroan, a neighbor, wondered about the tcxes and thought that the storage
should be out of sight. She aiso stated there are 6roken down cars i� tfie area and
Mr. Harris' dog is always in her yard. She also said she has seen tractors hooking
up trailers; that she looks at boxes all the time and that trailer houses are parked
there. Ms. Gabe7 asked if she was o6jecting to tPoe buiiding and Mrs. 8ergman said
no, she doesn't want to look at all of the 6oxes.
Appeals Commission Meeting - March 22, 1983 Paqe 6
Mrs. Rose DeMarais was present and lives rigBt behind the area and wondered if all
the junk will still 6e laying around when Mr. Harris fias the new 6uilding constructed.
She complained a6out the 6oxes, trailers, trucks and cars.
Mrs. Clara Du6anaski was present and lives next door and wondered about the dogs.
Ms. Gabe1 said the City does have a leasfi law and she should call if the dogs are
running loose. Mr. Harris said they got rid of one of the dogs several months ago
and somebody had just dropped the other dog off and they have 6een feeding him; he
said he just can't call to have the dog picked up.
Ms. Gabel discussed the 20-foot easement and wondered about the property to the
south, what if it were developed. Mr. Clark said the zoning code does not require
that fence to be screened. Ms. Gabel said they could add that as a stipulation.
Mrs. DeMarais asked what is going to be in back of the building as far as storage.
Mr. Harris said there will be parking in that area. He said they do storage for
trailer houses; that they 9et paid for storing those and cars and they are inside
the fence. Mrs. DeMarais asked about licenses for the cars and Mr. Clark said
if they are stored inside a screened fence they do not have to be licensed.
Mrs. Gerou asked about the height of the fence and if tfie trailer houses are higher
than that. Mr. Clark said the fence can be 7-8 feet and did not think it would be
that offensive if the trailer houses show above the fence. Mr. Barna said there
could be a stipulation that after the building is constructed all wooden 6oxes would
be stored inside and nothing stored higher than the fence.
Ms. Gabel asked about parking and Mr. Clark said the parking is going to be inside
the fence. Mr. Harris said they have been parking o,utside the fence in the front.
Mr. Clark said he is allowed parking in the front except for the front 20 feet.
Mrs. Bergman said a house trailer is parked in front. Mr. Harris said it is a
travel trailer. Mr. Clark said that should 6e stored inside the fence.
Ms. Gabel asked about the 15-foot bikeway/walkway along the east property line.
Mr. Harris said he has trees planted there now. Ms. Gabel said this is pretty .
much a standard requirement and did not know when this would come to pass.
Mr. Clark said, if it's possible, the trees can be transplanted and the bikeway/
walkway would be in the boulevard area. Mr.Harris said he did not have a problem
with that stipulation.
Mrs. DeMarais asked if they are going to be notified of what Mr. Harris has to do
and Ms. C�bel said the stipulations are tacked onto the building permit.
For clarification, Mr. Barna stated that the real hardship is that a new structure
is needed for the overseas boxes to be stored inside, out of the weather and
Ms. Gabel said the objections are to the existing conditions and not the building
of the new structure.
MOTION 6y Mr. Barna, seconded by Mrs. Gerou, to close the public heari�g. UPON A
VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THEPUBLIC HEARING CLOSEO
AT 8;35 P.M.
Discussion: Mr. Barna stated that the major problems of the residents is to get
the crates out of sight and the area cleaned up and to get the fe�ce fixed and
that they should add roore stipulations regarding tRe fence, sewer, and firewall.
Mrs. Gerou asked if tfiey were only concerned about the boxes and Mrs. DeMarais
said it is everyth5ng. Mr. Clark said t6e top of the trailers would be higher than
the 7-foot fence and Mr. Plemel said that would not 6e an eyesore. Mr. Plemel said
he was in favor of the variance and felt it would improve the area.
�peals Comnission Meeting - March 22, 1983 Page 7
MOTION 6y Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Betzold, that the Appeals Commission recommend
to the City Council, through the Planning Comnission, approval of the variance to
reduce the side yard set6ack from the required 15 feet Lo 0 feet, and reduce the
front yard setback from the required 100 feet to 72 feet, to allow a 40 foot by 100
foot addition to an existing building located on Lot l, Block 1, Herwell Rice Creek
Terrace, the same being 6400 Central Avenue N.E., fridley, Minnesota, 55432, with
the following stipulations:
1. Additional screening needed along the west, narth and south property
lines;
2. Abide by Rice Creek Watershed District's recomnendation for stormwater
management as stated in permits A83-OS and R75-31;
3. 15-foot bikeway/walkway easement along east property line;
4. Working with City staff to complete approved landscape plan;
5. Stripe parking areas for 10-foot parking s'calls;
6. Mork with City staff to bring property into compliance regarding
parkling lot setbacks;
7. That the storage of wooden crates be stored inside, not outside;
8. That the footings on the north side of the building be at a level no greater
than a 1 to 1 ratio above the sewer pipe (approximately 10' below 9rade).
9, That the north wall of the building be at least a one-hour fire rated wall;
pi� -n Motion: Mr. Betzold felt the stipulations covered the concerns of
the r.:. ;:�bors and Ms. Gabel said they will help alleviate problems.
UPON A YOICE YOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON fABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
3 RF�I�rS- FOR A VARIANCE PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 205 OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE, TO
__ .., �„� „�,,,, „rr,� crTOnrv rvnM nn FFFT TO 34 FEET, TO ALLOW TH6 CONSTRUCTION
.
,.
U JUUIn naun� v� nn� u�.� .- .._ .__... -
E N.E. (Request by Philip E. Radichel, 11735 50th Place, Plymout
r Grace Lutheran Lhurch, 460 75th Avenue N.E.]
Appeals Comoission Meeting — March 22, 1983 Pa9e 8
MOTION 6y Mrs. Gerou, seconded 6y Mr. Barna, to open the public hearing. UPON A
VOICE VOTE, ALL YOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT
8:48 P.M.
Chairperson Gabel entered the Staff Report into the minutes:
iD!!I]IISTRAYI:E STAFF REPORT
♦60 — 75th lvenue N.B.
�. PUSLIC P[TRPOSE SERYED BS HEQOIREl�NT:
Section 205.053� 4C, requirea a rear yard aetback of oot leas than 25
percent of the lot depth, vith not less Lhan 25 feet permitted or more LGan
�0 feet required.
Public purpose aerved Dy thla requirement ia to provide rear yard apace Lo
be used for green areas xhic6 enhance the neighborhood.
8. STATED HAADSHIP:
•T6e ezi�ting building pattern along �ith additlonal aquare footage
necessary to accomodate cAurch needs requires encroachment into the rear
yard. The lot is ezceptionally ahallow and long. The proposal allows for
optional aolar gain."
C. 1DHIIiISSRATIVE S7APF RSVIEH:
Churches, parinh houses and convents are linted aa permitted R-1 uses Sn
the City. There are no accompanying dimensional etandards for churches
auch as netbacks, lot a1ze, etc. Aovever, Lhe Zoning Code futher atates
that, "For ot6er uses, other tban dwelling unit�, permitted use� and uses
requiring a�pecial use permit, requirementa as to lots, eetbacra,
bulldings, parking, landscaping, acreening, and ezterior materiala ahall be
at least comparable to similar uses in other districts, but also sub�ect to
additional provisions as Rrovlded Dy the City.• A aimilar district in thls
case xas determiaed to be CR-1 or General Office 8 Limited Business.
Provisions in tdis dlstrict call for the folloving bullding aetDacks:
Front yard- 35 feet;
Side yard (regular)-15 feet;
Side yard (vith drive)-30 feet;
Rear yar'd-25 feet.
Since the Zoning Code �tates that alloxed uae� other t6an dxelling units
�e •,,.also aubject to additional provision� as provided by t6e City", Lhe
rear yard requirement vas determined to be �10 feet inatead of 25 feet. T6e
rationale for t61s is that the required rear yard setDack Sn all
residential zones is 25S of t6e lot depth with pot lesa than 25 feet
permitted or 110 feet requlred. Daing this formula, the required rear yard
aetbacic for Lhe church vas calculated to be AO feet.
Appeals Comroission Meeting - March 22, 1983 Paae 9
The applicant 1s requesting to rary tLe rear �ard aetback from the required
�0 feet Lo 34 feet to enable the constructioa of a 50 loot by 80 foot
chureh �uilding. Thts atructure in the firat of a tvo pha�e project xhic4
vill eveatually 11nk-up to t6e ezisting church Duilding. The phaee 1
addition vill De ueed as a nex chapel, office and meeting room. The future
#0 foot by 80 foot addition would De ueed as a fellovsLip hall/benquet
room. The existing garage vill be converted to classroom apace aad a neW
garage vill De built on the �eat aide of tGe ezisting church. A nex
parking lot providing an adequate numDer of atalls and �urface drainage
will accompaay the development. Ia addition, improved landscaping la
proposed. Either a fence or adequate vegetative acreening la required
vhere Lhe pro�ect ie bounded Dy residentlal dvelliaga.
The only atipulatlon ataff recommende ia that tbe proper acreeniog be
provided along the aoutD property line.
Mr. Clark said they are planning to add on to the church in two more stages;
that the new church is to be located to the east and to the south of the existing
church 6uilding, 34 feet from the south property line, R-1 code states it has
to be 1/4 of the lot depth or not more than 40 feet; that there is no objection
to the.6 foot variance as lonq as parkina is propertly screened and striped and
they ��ill be meeting all buildinq and zoning codes.
Mr. Sydow showed the comnission the plans and stated that the church is in a growth
period and they have outgrown their church. He said they have looked at different
� options and this is the only area on the property to build and that it would cost
more to do it any other way. He said they have done remodeling in the basement
already and the wall of the new church will line up with eristing wall; that the
next phase is the fellowship area which will atso line up. He said they would like
to get the most square footage with a limited investment. Mr. Clark said the staff
has reviewe^ it and has no objections, however, it needs a variance. Mr. Clark
said the :•ea is surrounded by apartments. Mr. Clark said the existing structure
was buii� in 1957. Mr. Sydow said the new building will be pre-stressed concrete
and extremely low maintenance; that the present building requires a lot of main-
tenance. Ms. Gabel asked about parking. Mr. Sydow said they have a sufficient
number of stall and a potential for expansion; they witl have curbing and black-
topping and a water-flow analysis is being done.
Mr. Lynn Hanson, who owns a building on the corner of 75th Avenue N.E., said he
had no objections and he just wanted to see where the building was going to be
built. He looked at theplans.
Ms. Gabel asked how they came up with the configuration. Mr. Sydow said they had
a lot of drawings done for different plans and discovered they would have to do a
lot of excavating as the soil conditions were not right. Mr. Barna asked about
future additions. Mr. Sydow said that depended on money but they would like to do
it about 1986 and it will all tie together.
MOTION by Mr. Plemel, seconded by Mrs. Gerou, to close the public hearing. UPON A
VOICE YOTE, ALL YOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT
9:00 P.M.
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Discussion: Mr. Barna said the hardship appears to be the soil condition; the
present plans sfiow the ideal place to 6uild. Mr. Plemel felt there would be no
problems.
MOTION by Mr. Plemel, seconded 6y Mrs. Gerou, that the Appeals Lomnission recomnend
to the City Council, through the Planning Commission, approval of the variance to
reduce the rear yard setback from 40 feet to 34 feet, to allow the construction of
a 6uilding approximately 50 feet by 80 feet, to be used as a new church, on
Outlot l, Melody Manor, and that part of tfie east half of the northwest Quarter
of Section 11, T-30, R-24, described as follows: Beginning at the intersection of
the south right of way line of 75th Avenue N.E. as laid out in Osborne Manor and
the southerly extension of the west line of Block l, in said Osborne Manor, thence
south along said extension a distance of 161.33 feet, Lhence east and parallel to
the said south right of way line a distance of 270 feet, more or less, to the
southerly extension of the east side of said Block 1, thence north along the
southerly extension of said east side to the said south right of way line: thence
west along said south right of way line to the point of 6eginning, the same being
460 - 75th Avenue N.E., Fridley, Minnesota, 55432, with the stipulation that proper
screening be provided along the south property line. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING
AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
OTHER BUSINESS:
Ms. Gabel reported that Mr. Plemel had been reappointed to the commission for
another three years.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mrs. Gerou, to adjourn. UP�N A VOICE VOTE, ALL
YOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE APPEALS COMMISSION MEETIN6 Of MARCH 22,
1983, ADJOURNED AT 9:03 P.M.
Respectfully su6mitted,
Deb Niznik
Recording Secretary
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 30, 1983
CALL TO ORDER:
Vice-Chairperson Oquist ca7led the March 30, 1983, Planning Cottmission meeting
to order at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Mr. Oquist, Ms. Gabel, Mr. Svanda, Mr. Kondrick, Mr. 5aba,
Mr. Goodspeed
Members Absent: Ms. Schnabel
Others Present: Bill Deblon, Associate Planner
APPROVAL OF MARCH 16, 1983; PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
FSbTTON 8Y MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO APPROVE THE MARCH Z6, 2983�
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES. �
Ms. Gabel stated the item regarding the variance request by Mr. & Mrs� Siverts
to increase the maximum height of their fence from 7 to 10 ft. came before the
City Council at the Monday night meeting. She stated the petitioner was unhappy
that the Planning Commission had acted by concurring with the Appeals Commission.
So, this item will again be coming 6efore the Planning Commission at their next
meeting, at which time the petitioner will be present.
Ms. Gabel stated that the Planning Commission had understood at their last
meeting that the City Council had asked the Planning Comnission to act on this
Appeals Commission variance request. She stated the City Council had not
requested any action from the Planning Commission, so there was a communication
gap somewhere. She stated she felt the public hearing was sufficient at the
Appeals Corrmission level and this did not warrant anoiher public hearing at the
Planning Commission level. If the Planning Comnission is going to start holding
public hearings on items that also go to the Appeals Commission, then the City
might as well do away with the Appeals Cormnission.
Mr. Oquist stated he agreed there was no reason for the Planning Commission to
hold a public hearing on this item when one had already been held at the Appeals
Conmission.
Ms. Gabel stated that all commissions sometimes ask for input or a motion from
the Planning Commission when a commission wants the support of the Planning
Commission, but she had seen this variance request as a routine matter. She
stated she wuuld not like to see this happen again.
UPON A VOICE VOSE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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1. RECEIVE MARCH $, 1983, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES:
�OTION SY MR. KDNDRICK, 5ECONDED BY MR. 5ABA, TO RECEIVE THE MAR. 8, I983,
COMMUNSTY DEVELOPME'NT COMMISSI*.)N MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAI.RPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTSON
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2. RECEIVE MARCH 10, 1983, HOUSING & REDEVECOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES:
�MQTION 8Y MR. SABA, SECQNDED BY MS, GABEL, TO RECEIVE THE MAR, 10, 1983, XOUSING
& REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES.
Ms. Gabel asked what was happening with regard to the rent due on the hardware
building and what kind of arrangement was made with NSP on the cost of the under-
ground electrical line in 5th St.
Mr. Deblon stated he did not know, but would report that information to the
Planning Canmission at their next meeting.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3. RECEIVE P1ARCH 15, 1983, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSTON MINUTES:
M01'ION BY MR. SVANDA� SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO RECEIVE THE MAR. I5� 1983�
ENVIRONMENTAL QURLITY COMMISSIDN MINUTES.
Mr. Svanda stated that Bob Hutchison from Anoka County talked about Anoka County's
Solid Waste Management Report which is currently being reviewed by the Metro-
politan Council, along with the other counties' plans. The County's basic proposal
is to come up with a RDF (refuse-derived fuel) type of facility. That was the
County's big emphasis, and the Commission was concerned that it would preclude the
City doing anything and that if the City and other cities did things to reduce the
waste stream, it might adversely impact the County's proposal. Mr. Hutchison
assured the Commission that the Ciiy could do a7most anything they wanted; and,
if anything, it might benefit an RDF facility.
Mr. Svanda stated the Commission's next step #s to have a meeting with the City's
haulers to talk about curb-side pickup, yard waste, etc.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
4. REUIEW ENUIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION 1983 WORKPLAN:
MOTION BY MR. SVANDA, SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO REVIEW AND CONCUR WITH THE EQC
1983 WORKFZduv. �
Mr. Svanda stated this was the 1982 workplan updated for 1983. The plan basically
focuses on trying to develop a plan for the City to follow in developing some
kind of waste reduction-type of program through curb-side separation (depending
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on how the meeting goes with the waste haulers) and then to look into some kind
of public education programs.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNAHIMOUSLY.
5. RECEIVE MINUTES OF SPEEIAL HUMAN RESOtlRCES COMMISSION MEETING ON MARCH 17 1983:
MOTION BY MR. GOODSPEED� SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK, TO RECESVE THE MAR. I7� 1983,
SPECIAL HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES.
Mr. Saba stated that on page 5, Mr. Treuenfels had stated that "the City Council
came up with a proposal that there be two categories for competing for funds:
(1) regular human service organizations; and (2) public services". He wondered
what was meant by "public services". He also stated he did not know if he approved
of the request by the senior citizens for $4,000, what it wou7d be used for, and
how they could justify that $4,D00 to be taken out of CDBG monies. He asked
Mr. Goodspeed to find out this information.
Mr. Oquist stated that since it was also stated that the Community Development
Commission migt�t handle the public service funding requests, he would like more
information for the Community Development Comnission.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
6. RECEIVE MARCH 22, 1983, ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. SABA� SECONDED 8Y MR. COODSPEED� TO RECEIVE THE MAR. 22� 1983�
ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES.
Mr. Svanda stated he would like the Environmental Quality Commission to view the
video tape on the "Super Insulation" seminar that Mr. Deb7on had attended.
Mr. Saba suggested a joint meeting be set up between the Environmental Quality
Commission and the Energy Comnission and that other commission members also be
invited to this meeting to view the video tape.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY.
Mr. Saba stated a motion had been made on page 5 to commend Bi71 Wharton for
his service to the Corrmission. He would ]ike the Planning Commission to concur
with that motion.
MOTION BY MR, SRBA, SECONDED BY MR, KONDRICK, TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL 2HAS
BILL WHARTON BE COMMENDED FOR THE FINE JOB HE HAS DONE AND THE S,ENGTH OF TIME
SPENT ON THE ENERGY.COMMISSION. �
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOT2NG RYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUSST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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7. REVIEW ENERGY COMMISSION 1983 WORKPLAN:
MOTION BY MR, SABR� SECONDED BY MR, GOODSPBED, TO REVIEW AND CONCUR WITH THE
ENERGY COMMISSION I983 WORKPLAN.
Mr. Saba stated this was also their 1982 workplan updated for 1983. They have
added the MECS (Mn. Energy Conservation Service) promotion, developing energy
conservation programning for video tape, and an effort to facilitate the CO
monitoring service as part of the residential conservation effort.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECIJSRED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8. RECEIVE MARCH 22, 1983, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BYt�2. SVANDA� TO RECESVE THE MA12. 22� 1983� APPEALS
COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO RDJOURN THE MEETING. UPON A
VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUSST DECLARED THE MARCH 30, 1983�
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING RA70URNED AT 8:30 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Lynh` s6 aba
Recording Secretary
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
ENERGY COMMISSION
MEETING
MARCH 22, 1983
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson 5aba called Lhe March 22, 1983, Planning Commission meeting to order
at 7:42 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Mer�ibers Present: Dean Saba, Todd Tessmer, Bill �ordan
Mer.ibers Absent: Bill Wharton
Others Present: Bill Deblon, Associate Planner
Susan Moore, Minnesota Dept, af Energy, Planning & Development(DEPD)
APPROVAL OF JANUARY 25, 1983, ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTZON BY MR. JORDAN� SECONDED BY FII2. TESSMER� TYJ RPPROVE THE JAN. 25, 19B3�
ENERGY COMMISSZON MIN[ITES.AS WRSTTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTINC AYE, CXAZRPERSON SABA DECLARED TNE MOTION CARRIED
UNRNIMOUSLY.
1. LONTINUED: EDUCATIONAL PR06RAM5
a. Minnesota Energy Conservation Service (MECS) Promotion Grant -
Su�an Moore, Guest Speaker
Ms. Moore stated the Dept�. of Energy, Planning & Development (DEPD) is
sponsoring a promotion in 42 metropolitan suburbs. They are trying to
promote the Minnesota Energy Conservation Service (MECS). This is the
service whereby a homeowner can call a utility company (NSP and Minnegasco
in Fridley) and for $10, have a home energy audit. The audit takes
about 2-2; hrs. and is done by an auditor who is certified by the State.
She stated they feel it is a very good deal for haneowners.
Ms. Moore stated that like any governmental agency, they have been going
through sane cutbacks and sane of their advertising dollar was skimmed
off so they did not have much money to promote the program in the metro-
politan area. They thought that, rather than spend the money in advertis-
ing themselves, they should hand the money over to selected suburbs,
design a marketing kit for the suburbs, and let each suburb design its
own promotjon for the Minnesota Energy Conservation Service. She stated
that bef�re getting into the marketing aspects of the program, she would
give some background information.
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Ms. tloore stated they have been hearing good news about OPEC, but they
have to be very careful not to be lulled into a sense of complacency.
She stated they are trying to avoid that kind of thinking. In 1970-
19II0, gasoline rose 216%, natural gas rose 194%, and incomes on an
average rose only 114%, Total expenditures per household during this
period jumped from $750 to almost $2,000. This includes the price of
gasoline. Due to the price increases during this period of time, they
have begun to see an ir�pact in the demand. Conservation is working;
however, part of this decrease in demand is due to the recession. As soon
as the economy turns around, fhe U.S. will aaain get nailed by foreign
imports.
Ms. Ptoore stated that there are roughly 30 years left of extractable
domestic petroleum in the U,S. at current rate of productioo; and accord-
ing to the Vice-President of Supply from Northern Natural Gas, a shortage
of natural gas is unavoidable in the 1990's.
Ms. Moore stated that looking at consumption in Fridley, cumulative
prices are going to jump from $8 million to $42 million by the year 20D0,
This means a state-wide average cost of $5/1000 cu. ft. now to $27/1000
cu. ft. by the year 2000. Given the fact that most of the homes will be
around in the year 200D, they have to be very supportive of getting
current homes retrofitted; and that is why they are promotinq MECS.
Ms. Moore stated it is important to know that by promoting MECS, they
are getting unbiased and accurate information out to homeowners.
Ms. Moore stated that in the marketing kit, there are marketing hints the
Cortmission might want to follow, along with a list of ideas on how to
implement the promotion. She stated the �EPD will give a$258 grant in
order to do this promotion in fridley. If the promotion is goin9 to cost
more than that, they are enc�uraging the c�mmunities to go to other
organizations, churches, businesses, etc., and ask for donations to cover
the costs. Those organizations who help support the cost of the promotion
will be ]isted on the materials, and people will see that this promotion
is being locally endorsed.
Ms. �ioore stated one of the reasons why they are doing this is because
they felt it was getting more flexibility for the dollar and thought it
might be a fun project for the communities or anyone interested in energy.
The comnunity is free to do as little or go as far as they want with the
promotion. The money rrwst be spent or be comnitted to be spent by June 30,
as they are trying to encourage the implementation of this promotion.
Mr. Saba asked Ms. Moore how the people at DEPD answer questions from
people who are worried about asphyxiation from carbon monoxide. He stated
he knew people who have refused to insulate their homes because they are
afraid of making their homes too tight and being overcane by carbon
monoxide poisoning.
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Ms. Moore stated that witl happen if there is no outside combustion air.
It was her understanding that combustion air was very dangerous if people
have a natural gas furnace and a fireplace. In older homes, people
would probably have to do a l�t to get their homes so tight where they
would have that problem, but they always tell people that just because
they have that problem doesn't mean they shouldn't tighten up. The next
thing they should do is get combustion (outside) air intake for the
furnace downstairs,and for a fireplace or woodburning stove, make sure
it has an outside air intake. These things are really not expensive
to do. She realized this was a real fear, but in terms of savings,
people are dollars ahead if they insulate. She stated they do have
brochures on canbustion air that are available if the Commission would
like to have some copies.
Mr. Deblon stated he just attended a"Super Insulation" seminar. (He
stated he had gotten permission to video tape it, and it was available
for the Carmission to review.) At the seminar he learned that with all
the super insulation and studies being done, the tightest houses in the
world are in Canada. As long as there is any kind of fresh intake,
there is absolutely no worry sbout noxious gases.
Mr. �ordan stated that if the homeowner pays S10 for a home energy audit,
how much does the audit actually cost, and who pays for the difference?
Ms. Moore stated the homeowner wi11 be charged a one-time cost of $10
on the utility bill. The audit costs approximately $100. Who pays for
the remaining $90? She stated all NSP customers, all Minnegasco customers,
all t�orth Central customers, and all Peoples Gas customers pay for it.
It boils down to roughly $3 per utility custaner. Even if you do not have
an energy audit this �ear, you will still pay $3, so you are paying for
the audit regardless through the rate structure.
Ms. Moore stated tomnunity groups can contract with NSP or Minnegasco
to do the audit. They are then paid the $100 to do the audit. NSP has
to pay for the b100 audit regardless. She stated she has heard that
the Anoka County CAP is interested in contracting with NSP to do the
audits. CAP would then hire auditors to do the audits. However, each
auditor must go through a training session and be state-certified. OEPD
does the testing. She stated it is really nice to have 1oca1 groups do
the audits.
Mr. Jordan asked if the Energy Cortmission could contract with NSP to do
the energy audits in the City of fridley. If the Commission was able
to get people they feel are totally honest and really talented and edu-
cated in energy, they could offer a really good service to the people of
Fridley that would supersede anything the State has to offer,
Ms. Moore stated ff the Canmission was really interested in pursuing
this, she would find out whether this was possible and get this informa-
tion to Mr. Deblon. She stated she thought it sounded like a great idea.
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Mr. Saba stated one of the Commissfon's goa7s in 1982 was "To promote
energy conservation within the residential sector and reduce energy
usage by 20X". He asked if there was any way the Commission could get
feedback on the audits done in Fridley.
Ms. Moore stated she woutd check with NSP and Minnegasco to see if
there was a way the Energy Comnission could get a listing of the people
in Fridley who have the audit so the Cortmission could follow up on how
many pepple had the audit and what type of energy measures were implemented.
Mr. Jordan stated he was in favor of the Commission doing the MECS
prortation.
Mr. Saba stated he was, too, and it could be included as one of their
action items in their 1983 goals.
MOTION BY MR. TESSMER� SECONDED BY MR. JORDRN� TO ACCEPT TXE PROGRAM
AND THE RESPONSZBZLITY ?'0 PROMOTE THE MECS AUDIT.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTSNG AYE'� CNAIRPERSON SABA DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRZED UNRNIMOUSLY. . �
The Commission members asked Mr. Deblon to fill out the application form
and mail it in for the promotion grant of $258.
Mr. Saba stated Minneapolis has a program where energy workshops are
held on Saturdays. Fran what he understood, low cost materials are
obtained or gotten free and given to the people who attend these work-
shops. If that program available for the suburbs? If not, why? How
is this program funded?
Ms. Moore stated she would check into this and get that information for
the Comnission.
Mr, Saba stated the Cortmissiort has beert 7ooking for programs like MECS
to promote energy conservation, and he was glad Ms. Moore had brought
this to the Commission's attention.
b. Programs for Cable TV
Mr, Saba stated he had viewed a couple of video tapes that are available
through the Fridley Library. He stated one video tape he felt would be
very worthwhile t� be included in a program for cable TV was "Saving
Energy at Home" by Aetna Insurance Co., 1980. He stated it shows what
the haneowner can do to save energy in the home.
Mr, Jordan stated that at the January meeting, Mr. Wharton had stated
that slide shows had been put together by various AVTI's through grants
from the Minnesota Energy Agency and the Minnesota Dept. of Education.
several years ago. He had suggested Mr. Jordan contact the Rochester
AVTI and the Redwing AVTI because both had been involved in this pro-
gra mning. Mr. Jordan stated he had contacted both AV7I's, and it
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appears these slide shows do not exist. He was told that the Redwinq
AVTI did make sane tapes, but the tapes were of such poor quality
that they were not saved.
Mr. Deblon stated he had also received from Mark Schoenbaum of DEPD
a listing of a11 the energy film titles available.
2. CONTINUED: ENERGY ACCOUNTING
Mr. Deblon stated he had nothing to add at this time.
3. CONTINUED: CDBG FOR ENER6Y-RELATED PR06RAM
Mr. Deblon stated the Carmission members had received a copy of HUD's
proposed regulations for 1983 CDBG funding,
4, WORK PLAN FOR 1983:
Mr, Saba stated he felt they could adopt their 1982 work plan for 1983
with some minor modifications. These goals were really only adopted ]ast
fall by the City Council which was not that long ago.
N01'ZON BY MR. TESSMER� SECONDED 8Y MR. JORDAN� SO RDOPT THE 1983 WORK PLAN
CONTINGENT UPON APPROVRL BY THE CHRIRPERSON AFTER THE MODZFICATIONS HRVE
BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE Ht�RK PIAN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CXAZRPERSON SABA DECLARED THE MOTZON
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. �
5. OTHER BUSINESS:
a. Recognition of Bill Wharton, Outgoing Cormission Member
MOTION BY NR, TESSMER, SECONDED BY XR. JORDAN� TD RECOMMEND TD CITY
COUNCIL, TNROUGH PLANNING COMMZSSION� THAT BZLL WHARTON BE COMMENDED
FOR THE FINE JOB XE HRS DONE AND THE TIME NE HAS SPENT ON TXE ENERGY
COMMZSSION.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, RLL VOTING RYE, CHAIRPERSON SABA DECLARED TNE
MOT'ION CRRI2IED UNANZMOiJSLY.
ADJOURNMENI':
MOiION BY 1�Z. JORDAN� SECONDED BY FII2. TESSMER� TO RDJOURN TXE MEE2ING. UPON A
VOICE VO2E� ALL VOTING AYE� CHRZRPERSON SABA D£CLARED THE MARCH ?2� 2983,
ENERGY COMMISSION MEETSNG AA7WRNED AT 10:30 P.M,
Respectfully submjtted,
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Lynne Saba
Recording Secretary