PL 06/08/1983 - 30595�"�
CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 8, 1983
CALL TO ORDER:
V�ce-Chairperson Oquist called the June 8, 1983, Planning Commission meeting
to order at 7:32 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Mr. Oquist, Mr. Saba, Ms. Gabel, Mr. Kondrick, Mr. Svanda,
Mr.. Goodspeed
Members Absent: Ms. Schnabel
Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
Richard & Sonia Peterson, 247 - 57th Place
Lawrence & Joyce Zimmerman, 5380 4th St. N.E.
Laura Ilagovich, 5400 4th St. N.E.
APPROVAL OF MAY 18, 1983, PLANNING COPA�IISSION MINUTES:
/� MOTION BY 1�t. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO APPROVE THE JUNE 8� I983�
PLANNING COMMISSIDN MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. VACATION RE UEST: SAV #83-01 PETITION ,NO. 4-83: Vacate the Easterly
T3�. eet o 54t�i v� etb ween B 1 oc cT s l� and 13, Hami l ton' s Add i ti on
to Mechanicsville, 6y tF►e owners of 5380 and 5400 4th 3treet N.E.
Mr.�Boardman stated this was the area where Dr. J. C. Schurstein had proposed to put
an office building back in Dec. 1980. There is a service road that comes in and
cul-de-sacs right along University Ave. There is an unpaved alley at this location
that is used to service the backs of the properties along 4th St. It also
services apartments and some businesses.
Mr. Boardman stated the vacation request is for a portion of 54th Ave. between
Blocks 12 and 13. The vacation request is being made by the two property awners
on either side.
Mr. Boardman stated the alley is being used and at some point in time, the City
is going to have to pave that alley as long as it is being used. If the alley
is paved, they would have to make sure there was access on both ends. At this
point in time, the City has been opposed to a vacation of that portion of
54th Ave., primariiy because there is no way out of the alley, and the ]ogica7
� way for circu7ation within that area would be to come up to 54th Ave. An alter-
native would be to come down and connect into the cu7-de-sac, but that may not be
an appropriate way to go.
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Mr. Boardman stated that when Dr. Schurstein proposed the development of an �
office building in this location, as a condition of the permit, the City Council
required that Dr. Schurstein pay for the improvement of the alley. Because of
that, Dr. Schurstein did not bui7d, and the a71ey is still unimproved.
Mr. Boardman stated that in their consideration of this vacation request, the
Planning Commission should consider what is going to be done with that alley
and at what point they want access. The Engineering Dept, has said the best
possible way for access is back up to 4th St. That would be in direct conflict
with this vacation request.
Ms. Laura Vagovich, 5400 4th St. N.E., stated she has lived in Fridley for 34 yrs.
Her house was moved twice, once for Highway 100 and again for I-694. She has
maintained this portion of the street for 34 years. She stated she would like
to have the protection of not having people going through there. People drive
through there and dump things in the bushes and trees, and she has even had
things stolen out of her garden. She stated she had assumed for years that this
road was already vacated and had maintained it because she thought it was vacated.
Mr. Lawrence Zirr�nerman, 5380 4th St. N.E., stated it was his intention to put up
a retaining wall and use the 30 ft. gained from the vacation to build a road to
a garage he would build on his property.
n Mr. Boardman stated that even if they vacated the street right-of-way, they would
want to retain the southern half of the street for storm sewer.
Mr. Zimmerman stated the most logica] way and the cheapest way for the a71ey
access was to go out on the cul-de-sac.
Mr. Oquist asked if it would be feasible to put a turn-around area by using the
portion of 54th Ave, that is not vacated plus the portion of the street they want
vacated.
Mr. Boardman stated that if they are going to retain 30 ft. for easement, why
not retain another 30 ft. so if the al]ey is ever improved, they can get access.
He stated if the property owners wanted to fence this portion of the street, they
could do so right now. The problem is that if at any point in time a road would
be required to go in there, that fence would be removed at no cost to the City.
Mr. Zimnerman stated the main reason for the vacation request is so he can build
a garage with access off 4th St. He did not intend to use the a]ley, because it
is 2-3 feet below his property. He is going to have to put up a retaining wall
at the back of his property.
Mr. Boardman stated it was his understanding that if the property owner put a
fence or a driveway owe� the easement, if the City has to dig up that easement,
the City is n�t r�s��nsible for putting back b7acktop or fencing. It would be
the property �wner's responsibility to put back whatever was torn up.
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Mr. Boardman agreed with the fact that there is never going to be a street
connection in there that would utilize the whole 60 ft. He had no problem with
vacating the street right-of-way, but they should retain the storm sewer and
a cess easement. In that sense, the property is no longer owned by the City of
F�idley but by the property owners; but the City would sti71 retain an easement
so if they need to go through with a road or access for the alley, they can use
that easement.
Mr. Oquist stated another alternative would be to access by the highway property
if the Highway Dept. turns that property over to the City.
:Ms. Vagovich stated that, as Mr. Zimnerman had stated, the main purpose for the
vacation is so Mr. Zirronerman can build a garage and access onto 4th St. They
will jointly maintain the property.
Mr. Boardman stated that if Mr. Zimmerman puts in his garage and accesses onto
4th St. over the 30 ft. easement, if the alley is improved and comes up to the
street grade, it in effect replaces his driveway and he would still have access
onto the alley.
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY 1►Qi. SVANDA, TO RECOMINEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF VACATION REQUEST� SAV �I83-01� PETITION ND. 4-83� TO VACATE 54TX AVENUE
�1 ALL THE WAY TO TNE HI6HWAY PROPERTY AND TXAT THE CITY OF FRIDLEY RETAIN ACCESS
EASEMENT OVER TNE TOP OF T1YE EXISTING 30 FT. UTILITY EASEMENT.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-Ci1AIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Boardman stated the public hearing at City Council on this vacation request
would be on July 11, 1983.
2. LOT SPLIT REQUEST, L.S. #83-02, BY RICHARD & SONIA PETERSON: Split off
Lot 12 and t e Westerly 30 feet of Lot 13, Block 1, City View, to make a new
building site, the same being 241 - 57th Place N.E.
Mr. Boardman stated�the petitioners own Lots 12, 13, 14, and 15. These are 40
ft. lots totalling 160 ft. of lot area. They are requesting to sp7it off
Lot 12 and the westerly 30 ft. of Lot 13 so that Lots 12 and 13 will become a
70 ft. lot. The depth of the lot is 140 ft. It does meet the 9,000 sq. ft.
lot requirement and meets all other requirements as far as lot splits. A lot
split does require a park fee of $500. The park fee is payable at the time of
approval of the lot split request; however, the City Counci7 may defer collection
to the time the building permit is requested for individual ]ots created by such a
lot split. This would depend on whether the petitioner requested the City Council
to delay payment of the park fee.
The petitioners were in the audience.
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MOTION BY MR. 1CONDRICIC, SECONDED BY l�2. GOOASPEED� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCZL
APPROVAL OF LOT SPLIT REpUEST� L.S. �183-02, BY RICXARD AND SONSA PETERSON� TO
.'�.rT OFF rAT 12� AND TXE WESTERLY 30 FEET OF LO'1' 13� BLOCK 1� CITY VIEW� TO
MAICE A NEW BUILDING SITE� THE SAME BEING 241 57TH PLACE N.E.
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UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL YOTING AYE, YICE-CXAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE INOTION
CARRIED UNANIAlOUSLY.
Mr. Boardman stated this request would go to City Council on June 20.
3. CONTINUED; _ REVIEW OF A P
NCE ADOPTING A NEW CHAPTf R 101
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�IOTIOIV B1' 1�2. SABA, SECONDED BY !�t . KONDRICK, TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION ON THE
ANIMAL ORDINANCE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
The Commission members requested that Jim Phillips, Legal Intern, be at the
next Planning Corr�nission meeting when this is discussed to answer any questions
the Camrnissaoners might have.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CXAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRlED UN1l,NI1NOUSLY.
4. RECEIVE MAY 10, 1983 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY 1�. SVANDA� TO RECENE TXE MAY 10� 1983�
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED TXE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
5. RECEIVE MAY 12 1983 HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES:
MOTIDN BY �. SABA� SECOFlDED 9Y MS. GABEL, TO RECEIVE Tf1E MAY 12� 1983�
COMMUNITY DEt7ELOPMENT COMMISSIOAI 1`1131VUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPEASDli� pQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Gabel stated that at the last meeting, the Commiss�on had asked that
Mr. Boardman explain the HRA's financia7 process and the General Reserve System.
Mr. Boardman stated the General Reserve System is a complicated program to
explain, but it is really quite a simple tool. He stated he would put together
for the Planning Commission members a surrmary exp7aining the system.
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6. RECEIV_E MAY 16, 1983, PARKS & RECREATION CONMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. KONDRIQC, SECONDED BY 1�Il2. GOODSPEED� TO RECEIVE Z7YE MAY 16� 1983,
P.�RKS 6 RECREATION COXMISSION MINUTES.
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UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-QYAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
7. RECEIVE MAY 17, 1983, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES:
1rIOTION BY MR. SVANDA, SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO RECEIVE THE MAY Z7� I983�
ENVIRONMENTAL pUALITY COMlNISSION MINUTES.
Mr. Svanda stated the meeting with the refuse haulers has been scheduled for
Wed., June ]5. He invited the Planning Comnission members to attend this meeting.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIINOUSLY.
8. RECEIVE MAY 24, 1983, APPEALS CONnNISSION MINUTES:
1NOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY MR. KONDRIQC� TO RECENE THE MAY 24� 1983�
r�� APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED TXE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
9. RECEIVE MAY 25, 1983, ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK� TO RECENE THE MAY 25�.1983�
ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON OpUIST DECLARED TBE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY 1NR. SABA� SECONDED BY lNS. GABEL� TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. UPON A VOICE
VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE JUNE 8, 1983�
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:30 P.M.
Respe tfully subm'tted,
ynn Sa a
Recording Secretary
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