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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JULY 13, 1983
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairwoman Schnabel called the July 13, 1983, Planning Comnission meeting
-to order at 7:32 p.m.
ROLL CALL• �
Members Present: Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Oquist, Ms. Gabel, Mr. Svanda, Mr. Saba,
Mr. Kondrick, Mr. Goodspeed
Members Absent: None ��
Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
Bill Deblon, Associate Planner
Leslie W. Wilke, 6061 Central Ave. N.E.
Bob Schroer, 490 Rice Creek Blvd.
APPROVAL OF JUNE 22, 1983, PLANNING COMFIISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY �t. OQUIST, TO APPROVE THE JUNE 22� 19�.��
PLAIVNING COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCXNABEZ DECLARED TXE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. LOT SPL
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Central
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T REQUEST: L
Avenue N.E.)
Aven ue N. E.
.S. #83-03 BY LESLIE W
ots an , oc
to make a new building
. WILKE: Split off the
, oore Lake Hills (6061
site, the same being 6063
Mr. Boardman stated this request is to split the northerly lot from the
southerly lot. He stated the lot split does meet all the code require-
ments. The lot is 75.8 ft. wide and 122.2 ft. long, totalling 9,170 'sq. ft.
There is a$500 park fee required in a lot split.
Mr. Boardman stated there was one concern raised by Staff in the last few
days. According to city code, the shortest distance on a lot is considered
the front yard,so present]y, the front yard on Lot B faces Hillcrest, even
though the address is 6061 Central. With the lot split, in terminology,
the frontage of the lot changes. The front yard will now face Central,
and what used to be the side yard will become the rear yard. The distance
from the house to the lot line in the rear yard is 29 ft. The code calls
for 30 ft. so there is one foot off in the rear yard.
Ms. Schnabe asked about the existing garage as it wil] need to be moved.
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Mr. Wilke stated he intends to raze the existing garage and build an
attached garage.
Mr. Boardman stated that if Mr. Wilke is going to attach the garage to the
house, because this is now the rear yard and because of the setback
requirement, he wouid need a�ariance. He stated that per city code, "A
rear yard with a deR�� of n�t l�ss thae� 25 percent of the lot depth is
required, with not less that 25 ��t �ermitted, or more t�an 40 feet required
for the main building except as follows: Accessory bui��ings may be built
no less than 3 feet from any rear lot line not adjacent to the street."
Mr. Boardman stated that at this point in time, he did not think it was
necessary to hold up the lot split because of this setback problem. There
is enough land for the lot split, and the only problem is that, by definition,
the side yard becomes the rear yard. There has to be some opinion made on
it at some point in time; but by approving the lot split, the Planning
Cortmission essentially approves the variance.
MOTION BY N�i. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY 1�2. OQUIST, TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF LOT SPLIT REQUESTe L.S. �183-03� BY LESLIE W. WILKE� TO SPLIT
OFF TNE NORTHERLY 75 FEET OF LOTS 11 AND 12� BLOCK 2� MOORE LAKE BILLS
(6061 CENTRAL AVENUE N.E.) TO MAKE A 1VEW BUILDING SITE, THE SAME BEING
6063 CENTRAL AE�ENUE 1{�.E.� ACKNOWLEDGING THE 29 FT. REAR YARD SETBACR. �,
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CIiAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TI�E MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Boardman stated Staff will discuss this and clarify the interpretation
in the code regarding the setback for an attached garage.
Mr. Boardman stated this lot split request would go to City Council on
July 25.
Mr. Boa�d��� stated he would like to request that the Planning Commission
amend the agenda to add,a request for a special use permit by Mr. Schroer.
MOTION BY 1�d. OQ�UIST� SECONDED BY !�. SVANDA� TO ADD AS ITEM #�' A REQUEST
FOR A SPECI�L USE PER�' �Y ROBERT SCHROER.
UPON �i VDICE VDT�� .�.� VOTl�G �'Es CIi�AZ�Q'AlAA1 SCNNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2. RE UEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SP #82-09 BY ROBERT SCHROER: Per Section
05. 0, 3. , to a low t e er°ection of a 30 t. by 45 ft. fire retardent
tent,.for outside'display and sales, located on Lot 1, Block 1, East Ranch
Estates, the same being 7620 University Avenue N.E.
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Mr. Boardman stated Mr. Schroer had come before the Planning Cor�nission on
Sept. 15, 1982� with a request for an outdoor frame-type structure to be
used as a display area. The Planning Comnission approved the special use
permit; however, a variance was needed for the setback from public right-
of-way to where the actual structure was to be placed. There was no action
by the City Counci] on either the specia] use permit or the variance, and the
request was withdrawn by Mr. Schroer. ..
Mr. Boardman stated Mr..Schroer is now back asking for a modification to
that special use permit to just erect a tent. The Planning Commission did
approve the special use permit last September allowing the use of an outside
display area, only now the variance process is eliminated because there
will not be a frame-type structure. Even though the Planning Comission did
approve the special use permit last year, Mr. Boardman wanted to bring this
back before them again so they could re-review it and have a chance to discuss
it again.
Mr. Schroer stated the special use permit was tabled by the City Council
because he had discontinued the idea of adding on to the building. He is
now back asking for a special use permit for the tent. He stated the tent
will be about the same size as it was last year. The reason he is requesting
a permit is because of a truckload garage sale the weekend of July 28-30.
He stated he has also had some interest from non-profit groups who would
�"� like to hold garage sales for fundraisers, and he does not have the space to
accommodate them inside the building. He stated he would like to ask that
the tent remain up until Nov. 1. During that time, the tent will be occupied
by fund-raising groups, except for the weekend of July 28-30 when he will be
using it. After the clubs are through, he will utilize the tent for apples,
squash, pumpkins, etc.
Mr. Svanda stated he remembered that last year there were some questions
about adequate parking.
Mr. Schroer stated that last year they really had no problem with traffic.
He stated he does have some additional parking in the rear of the building,
and on weekends, he has permission from Kennedy Transmission to use their
parking lot. -
Ms. Schnabel asked what Mr. Schroer's long range plans were concerning the
tent.
Mr. Schroer stated he would probably put it up and take it down for the next
couple of years.
Mr. Boardman stated that if the Planning Cort�nission does grant this special
use permit, �F►ey may want to grant it on a continuing basis with an annual
� review by Staff or the P]anning Corr�nission. This t�o���d a�leviate Mr. Schroer
having to reapply for a speciai use �er�it each year.
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Mr. Boardman stated a letter was written to Mr. Schroer on July 14, 1981,
by Kent Hill, Economic Development Assistant, outlining six code violations.
Mr. Schroer made the following comments regarding the six code violations
listed in Mr. Hil]'s letter:
1. Driveway entrance exceeds the max. 32 feet.
(Mr. Schroer stated that was the existing code when the
driveway was built. He was not in violation of any code on that.)
2. Provide landscape screening for parking lots located along
Osborne Road and the West Service Road.
(Mr. Schroer stated he would fight that because 90� of the
corrtmercial areas do not have screening of parkin lots. He is
also limited because of the St. Paul Waterworks.�
3. Fencing needs to be repaired and property maintained.
(Mr. Schroer stated the fencing has been repaired. The land-
scaping has been fixed up and new rock put in.)
4. Outside storage needs screening from public view.
(Mr. Schroer stated this wou]d be handled with the special
use permit.)
5. Black-topped areas need to be patched and properly maintained.
(Mr. Schroer stated black-topped areas are patched every spring.)
6. 6" concrete curb and gutter needs to be installed around the
entire parameter of the parking lot.
(Mr. Schroer stated this was basically talking about the area
between Kennedy Transmission and his parking lot. He stated
one of the problems is the tremendous amount of drainage
throughout the whole parking lot. Every time it rains, they have
to patch the parking lot.)
Mr. Schroer stated he knows that he responded to Mr. Hill's letter verbally
and believed he had done so in writing also.
MOTION BY J�2. �ABA� SECONDED BY 1NIZ. KONDRICK� °l'� �COMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APP� OF' S�E�a�lb �1SE PERMIT REpUEST� SP #Ba-09� BY ROBERT SCHROER� PER
SECl'ION �Q�S.ZOIo �� O� TO ALLC�sT I`F3E ERECR`ION OF A 30 FT. by 45 FT. FIRE
RETARDENT TENT� FOR OUTSIDE DISPLAY AND SALES, LOCATED ON LOT I, BIACK 1, ^
EAST RANCH ESTATES, THE SAME BEING 7620 UNIVERSITY AVENUE N.E.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOT2NG AYE� CHAZRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANII�SOUSLY.
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Mr. Boardman stated this special use permit request would go to City
Council on July 25.
MOTION BY 1►Q2. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MS. GABEL, TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION
ON THE NEW "ANIMAL CONTROL" ORDINANCE UNTIL T8E NEXT MEETING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CNAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSI,Y.
4. RECEIVE JUNE 30, 1983, PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY 1�IIZ. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY !►Qt. SVANDA� TO RECEIVE TXE JUNE 30, 1983�
PARICS & RECREATION COMMISSION !►lINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, Q'IAIRWOMIIN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIINOUSLY.
� 5. RECEIVE JUNE 28, 1983, ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES:
i MOTION BY MR. SAPA� SECONDED BY MR. SVANDA� TO RECEIVE THE JUNE 28� 1983�
ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALZ VOTING AYE, CXAIRWOMAN SCXNABEL DECLARED TXE MOTION
CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY.
Mr. Saba stated that the Energy Corrrnission has only three members, and there
seems to be some diffic�lty in finding new members.
Mr. Oquist stated that on Oct. 7-8, the City is going to have a grand opening
of the new Center City Plaza and the new Comnunity Park. He suggested that
some kind of display be set up during that weekend to try and get some
interest in city comnissions.
Mr. Boardman stated that was an excellent idea. He thought it would be a
good idea for each comnission to set up a display and have it manned by a
commission member.
Ms. Schnabel requested tF�at the Community Development Comnission discuss this
at their next meeting an� �ome up r�ith soine ideas for commission displays for
the Fridley Day►s o� Oct. i-�.
Mr. Saba stated that he was also concerned about energy accounting. At the
last Energy Comnission meeting, he stated that he felt the City was missing
!'"` " the boat by not getting more involved in energy auditing and publicizing the
� results of what the City is doing in energy auditing. The City has some good
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programs available and they have some good data, but they have to get that
data updated and publish the results. He had stated he would bring this up
at the Planning Commission meeting to see what could be done to prioritize
energy accounting in the City of Fridley.
- Mr. Saba stated he would like to see Staff input energy bills into the
computer. He stated he has been told that Staff does not have enough time
so they are not even getting a quarterly computer print-out to evaluate the
effects of past energy improvements. He would like to ask the Planning
Commission's support that Staff be allocated a little more time to put this
data on the computer.
Mr. Boardman stated they are limited on staff. Mr. Deblon has all the
responsibilities that Kent Hill, Economic Development Assistant, had before
he left the City, as well as the responsibility of code enforcement. However,
they should soon be hiring a new Economic Development Assistant. He stated
he had not been aware that this accounting was not being done. He stated he
would do some checking on this and see if some staff time could be prioritized
for energy accounting--maybe even having a student secretary input the data.
6. RECEIVE JUNE 28, 1983, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUT�S:
MOTION BY MS. GABEL, SECONDED BY !►Q2. SABA� TD RECEIVE TXE JUNE 28� 1983�
APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TXE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
7. RECEIVE JUNE 15, 1983, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY 1�2. SVANDA� SECONDED BY 1►Q2. GOODLPEED� TO RECEIVE TXE JUNE 15� 1983�
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED U�ITANIMOUSLY.
8. OTHER BUSINESS:
a. Next Meeting on July 27
Ms. Sr.�nabe] stated that bath th� ci►ai.rperson and vice-chairperson would
be o� �sacation for the July 27th meeting. She stated that Mr. Kondrick
had agreed to be the temporary acting chairperson.
b. Fridley Days, Oct. 7-8, 1983
Mr. Boardman stated the City is going to have a grand opening of the plaza
and the new Community Park on Oct. 7-8. He stated the clinic had its
ribbon-cutting ceremony last Thursday, July 7th and is naw open. Both the �
office building and the clinic will be taking part in this grand opening. _�
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ADJOURNMENT•
MOTIDN BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR. SVANDA, TO AA70URN TAE MEETING. UPON A
(OICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CAAIRWOMAN SCbfNABEL DECLARED Z'NE JULY 13� 1983,
_PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AA70URNED AT 8:45 P.1N.
Res ectfully su itted,
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Recording Secretary
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