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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 19, 1983
CALL TO ORDER:
Vice-Chairperson Oquist called the October 19, 1983, Planning Comnission meeting
to order at 7:45 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Mernbers Present: Mr. Oquist, Ms. Gabel, Mr. Nielson (for Mr. Svanda),
Mr. Kondrick, Mr. Saba
Members Absent:
Others Present:
Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Goodspeed
Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
APPROVAL OF OCTOBER 5, 1983, PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Mr. Kondrick, to approve the Octoher 5, 1983,
PTanning Correnission minutes as written.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Vice-Chairperson Oquist declared the motion
carried unanimously.
1. CONTINUED: REVIEW
PTING A NEW CHAPTER 14 ENTITLED
Mroruen�rc . ewn CDCA1 T r_ r
Mr. Oquist stated the Planning Commission had sent this down to the Community
Development Comnission for their input. He stated the Comnunity Development
Commission did review the ordinance and accepted it as written, contingent
upon input from the Chamber of Comnerce. He stated tF�e Commission members
had received a copy of a letter from Kerry Van Fleet, Executive Director of
the'Chamher of Commerce, dated Oct. 7, 1983, stating that the Chamber of
Commerce also approved the ordinance.
Mr. Saba stated the ordinance obviously includes farmers that may come into
the City in the surmner or fall to sell their produce. He noticed that
Ms. Van Fleet had stated that the merchants in Fridley apparently did not
object to that.
Mr. Boardman stated farniers can come in and sell their produce. State law prohibits
a city from restricting, by iicense, farmers from comin,c, in and selling produce.
Ms. Gabel asked if she was correct in her understanding that with the new
ordinance, if someone complained about a peddler or solicitor, if the peddler
n or solicitor did not have a permit, the police could tay the offender in
addition to telling them to leave.
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Mr. Boardman stated that was correct. Anyone who sells in the City of
Fridley could get tagged if he/she does not have a permit. However, people
cannot sell out in the open on a corner without a special use permit. That
is a zoning regulation that has nothing to do with the peddlers license.
There is to be no outside sale of inerchandise without a special use permit.
The City cannot prevent a person from applying for a license, but if that
person goes out and sells on a corner, he/she also needs a special use permit.
Ms. Gabel asked how Staff saw the enforcement of this new ordinance.
Mr. Boardman stated he thought enforcement would be handled two ways:
(1) The most probable enforcement would be on a complaint basis.
(2) If the police are patrolling and see someone selling on a corner
they can stop and ask the person to see their license. If the
per•son does not have a license, the police have the tool whereby they
can issue a tag. If the person is on the corner with merchandise that
is out in the open, that is another issue and is a violation of the
zoning code. He stated most of the selling is done on the weekend,
and the problem they run into is that by the time they get a complaint,
the violater is not operating in the City. Another problem is that if
the person has a license and is selling on a corner, but doesn't have
a special use permit, the police can tag that person, but he is not
sure if the police could actually stop that person from selling his/
her product.
Mr. Oquist stated the only comment the Community Development Commission had
was that the ordinance was quite lengthy and quite wordy; otheraise, they
thought it sounded good. At least, it gives the police a tool for enforecment
that they do not have now.
MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Mr. Saba, to recommend to City Council the
a�op�tion of a new Chapter 14 entitled "Peddlers, Solicitors, and Transient
Merchants" and repeal Old Chapter 14 entitled "Peddlers" of the Fridley City
Code in its entirety.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Vice-Chairperson Oquist declared the
motion carried unanimously.
2. REVIEW OF AN ORDINANCE ADOPTIWG A NEW CHAPTER 218 ENTITLED "HAZARDOUS
� CONTROL' OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE
Mr. Boardman stated that on Monday night, the City Council had decided to
pass this ordinance to the Planning Comnicsion for its review. He stated
the Planning Comnission may want to pass this ordinance on to the Environmental
Quality Commission for its input.
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MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Ms. Gabel, to pass the new Chapter 218
en �t ed "Hazardous Waste Control" on to the Environmental Quality Comnission
for its review.
Upon a voice vote. all voting aye. Vice-Chairperson Oquist declared the
motion carried unanimously.
3. REVIEW OF AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING A NEW CHAPTER 121 ENTITLED "INTOXICATI
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Mr. Oquist stated he thought this ordinance was really geared toward the use
of intoxicating liquor outside private property where people could gather such
as parking lots, etc:, because there is already an ordinance prohibiting alcohol
in public parks..
Mr. Jaba stated he thought it was an ordinance that was very important and
very necessary.
MIOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Mr. Kondrick, to recommend to City Council
t e a option of new Chapter 121 entitled "Intoxicating Liquor - Consumption,
Use or Display" of the Fridley City Code.
Upon a voice vote� all voting aye, Vice-Chairperson Oquist declared the
motion carried unanimously.
4. RECEIVE SEPTEMBER 26 1983 PARKS b RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Kondrick. seconded by Ms. Gabel, to receive the Sept. 26. 1983�
Parks & Recreation Commission minutes.
Mr. Kondrick stated the grand opening for both the comnunity park and the
plaza was very successful. It was exciting to see so many people turn out
for the celebration.
Mr. Saba stated he would like to see this carried on--some type of anniver-
sary celebration every year. He thought it was really great to have so many
people coming together. The theme, "Fridley, Coming Together". was really an
appropriate th ene.
Mr. Kondrick stated maybe one thing the Parks & Recreation Commission could
do is form a project committee that would look into and work on ongoing
programning for the plaza.
Mr. Boardman suggested that maybe companies in Fridley would be interested in
sponsoring different weeks in the plaza and supply programming, exhibits.
entertainment. etc.
Tfie Comnission members agreed that these were excellent ideas for the use of
� the new corrmunity plaza.
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Mr. Saba stated the Chamber of Commerce might also be interested in setting
up special events. He stated they have so much opportunity with the plaza.
It is a good focal point for the city and a good way to show the people that
city government cares.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Vice-Chairperson Oquist declared the motion
carried unanimous7y.
5. RECEIVE OCTOBER 6, 1983, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MIPaUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Ms. Gabel, to receive the Oct. 6, 1983,
Human Resources Commission minutes.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Vice-Chairperson Oquist declared the motion
carried unanimously.
6. RECEIVE OCTOBER 11, 1983, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Ms. Gabel. seconded by Mr. Saba, to receive the Oct. 11, 1983,
pA peaTs Commission minutes.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Vice-Chairperson Oquist declared the
motion carried unanimously. �
7. RECEIVE OCTOBER 11, 1983, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMEMT COMMISSION MINUTES: `
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Nielson, to receive the Oct. 11, 1983,
Community Development Comnission minutes.
Mr. Oquist stated the Community Deyelopment CorrQnission had their final dis-
cussion on the "truth-in-housing" program. Dr. Vos had told about the problem
his church had with "truth-in-housing" in Minneapolis, and his church board
is now involved in litigation. He stated it was the concensus of the
Comnission that for what a person got out of "truth-in-housing" it probably
wasn't worth it.
Ms. Gabel stated she had also had a bad experience with "truth-in-housing"
in Minneapolis.
Mr. Boardman stated that maybe information checklist forms should be made
available for people who are buying a home, especially first-time home buyers.
It would be an awareness kind of thing and it could be something the Community
D�velopment Commission might want to recommend to the Anoka County Board of
Realtors.
Mr. Oquist agreed that was a good idea. It could be similar to the "truth-in-
housing" checklist but in a modified form for home buyers. He stated it
appears that realtors are becoming more aware of these kinds of things; for
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example, Edina Realty does have a checklist that the seller has to fill out.
He stated he would take this input back to the Community Development
Conunission for discussion at their next meeting.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye. Vice-Chairperson Oquist declared the
motion carried unanimously.
ADJOURNMENT:
MO__TION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Mr. Kondrick, to adjourn the meeting. Upon a
voice vote, all voting aye, Vice-Chairperson Oquist declared the Oct. 19, 1983.
Planning Comnission meeting adjourned at 8:55 p.m.
Respectfully submitted.
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Recording Secretary
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