PL 02/08/1984 - 6829C1TY OF FRIDLEY
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 8, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL•
APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: JANUARY 11, 1984
1. CONSIDERATION OF A
-1984. OF THE PLANNING
2. RECEIVE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MIQUTES: JANUARY 5,
1984
3. RECEIVE
4. RECEIUE MIIJUTES
5. RECEIVE HOUSI
TY DEVELOPMENT
NORITY MI
6. RECEIUE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: JANUARY 17 1984
7. RECEIUE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALI7Y GOMISSION MINUTES: JANi
7� ,00n —
A. Recommend to Council, throu9h the Planning Commission,
approval of the New Chapter 109 Entitled, "Air Quality",
and to Repeal Old Chapter 104.
B. Recomnend to Council, throu9h the Planning Commission,
that one or more Planning Staff people, John Flora,
and City Council Members, especially Ed Hamernick who
was the official laison to the "Anoka County Solid
Waste Management Task Force" attend the "Evaluating
Waste ManagementOptions: Semiar at Sheraton Inn-West
on Febr�ary 23-24, 1984
8. RECEIVE PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSIQN MINUTES: JANUARY 23,
1984
A. Recommend to Council the approval of the Policy on
Ice Locations in the City of Fridley
9. RECEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: JANUARY 31, 1984
7:30 P.M.
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CITY OF FRI�LEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 11, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairwoman Schnabel called the January 11, 1984, Planning Commission meeting
to order at 7:37 p,m.
ROLL CALL:
Menbers Present: Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Oquist, Ms. Gabel, Mr. Kondrick,
Mr, Goodspeed
Members Absent: Mr, Saba, Mr. Svanda
Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
Allen Fehn, 1251 Hillwind Rd,
Allen Singer, 1450 Rice Creek Rd.
Carol Fassett, 1001 Lynde Dr.
Janice & Charles Sheridan,1313 Hillwind Rd.
Bob Aldrich, Fridley Fire Chief
APPROVAL OF DECEMBER 7. 1983. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. KQNDRICK� SECONDED BY .�II2. OpUIST� TO APPROVE TXE DEC. 7� 1983�
PLANNING COMMZSSION MIN'UTES.
Mr. Goodspeed made the following addition on page 6, between paragraphs 1;:
and 2: "Mr. Goodspeed asked how many parking stalls there were on the east
side of the parking lot after the width was corrected."
UPON A VDICE V02'E� ALL VOTING RYE� CXAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MINUTES
APPROVED AS AMENDED.
1. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERA7ION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT P.S. #83-01
ER1� R1DGE EST TES BY ALLEN FEHN: Being a replat of Part of Lots 1
an , u itor s Subdivision P�o. 94, and highway turnhack property at
the Northeast Quadrant of I-694 and TH 65 on Hillwind Road.(See public
hearing notice for complete description.j
MOTION HY MR. KA^IDRICK� SECONDED BY MS, GABEL, TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARIl7G
ON PS N83-01 BY ALLEN FEHN,
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE
pUBLIC HEARINC OPEN AT 7:41 P.M.
Mr. Boardman stated there is a section of property that actually goes along
the bottom of the hiilside that was part of state right-of-way. That state
right-of-way has a11 been turned back torto the City. The City is looking
at turning back a portion oF the state right-of-way that is now city right-
of-way to the property owner making this entire section as buildable property,
PLANNIf1G COMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 71 1984 PAGE 2
Mr. Boardman stated there is a proposal for the splitting off of the property
and making all the section from R-2 a17 the way up and inc]uding the City
right-of-way as a buildabie project. He stated Mr, Fehn is not on7y
requiring the preliminary plat, but is also requesting a rezoning (item 2).
Mr. Boardman stated the proposal Mr. Fehn is requesting is for 8 townhouse-
type rental un5ts side by side with access to Hillwind Road and under-unit
parking. It will all be done on one lot. There are no individual lots so it
is not a townhouse development. He is doing it this way for the eventual
possibility of splitting off for condominiums.
Mr. Boardman stated Mr. Fehn was in the audience.
Mr. Fehn stated they have a very complicated situation here. He stated it
is a very difficult piece of property because of the turnback and R1, R2,
and R3 zoning. Ne wou]d ]ike to develop it in a manner so that it becomes
a viable piece of property for the City and for himself, He stated he is
proposing to the City of fridley that if they wili turn a portion of the
turnback to him, he will develop it. He stated he also owns the existing
double bangalow on Parcel C.
Mr, Fehn stated the problem with the property in Parcels B and E is that it
is all on a hill, There is no sewer availab7e to this area. There is water
coming down on Hillwind Road, and they can extend electrical and gas from
the house he owns. He is proposing to put in the proper sewer structures to
facilitate the constr.uction he is proposing.
Mr. Fehn stated the property the City now owns is somewhat possible to build
on if it is tied in with the other parcels. The property would be used to
facilitate a driveway in from Hillwind Road to these buiidings. He steted
the buildings will be built into the side of the hill. They wiil be 3-story
buildings--garage on the bottom Tevel, living quarters on �he second Tevel,
and bedrooms on the third level,
MOTION BY MR, GOODSPEED� SECONDED BY MR, OQUIST� TO CLOSE TNE PUBLZC HERRING
ON P.S. �83-01 BY ALLEN FEHN.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTSNG AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLSC
HERRING CIASED AT 8:02 P.M.
Ms, Schnabel asked Mr. Boardman when the City would make the decision on
whether or not to release the turnback property.
Mr. Boardman stated this will all be considered by the City Council at one
time. When the City Council is considering the preliminary plat, rezoning,
etc., they will also be considering the turnback release,
Mr. Oquist stated he thought the replat was a viab7e thing in order to make
a buildable plat.
PLANNING CAMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 11, 1984 PAGE 3
MOTZON BY MR. OQUIST, SECONDED BY MR. XONDRZCK, TO RECOMMEND TO CZTY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY PIA T, P.S. N83-01, WESTERN RIDGE ESTATES, BY ALyEp
FEXN, BEING A REPLAT OF PARTS OF IATS 2 AND 2, AUDITOR"S SUBDIVISION NO. 94,
AND HIGXWAY TURNBACX PROPERTY AT TNE NORTHEAST QUADRANT OF I-694 and TH 65 ON
XILLWIND ROAD, WITH THE FOLLOWING STZPULATIONS:
1. 25 FT. DRAINAGE/UTILITY EASEMENT THAT GOES THROUGN THE CENTER OF THE
PROPERTY WHERE THE EXISTING DRASNGE GOES.
?. 10 F2. SZOPE EASEMENT ALONG HZLLWIND ROAA FOR SNOW STORAGE.
3. ANy IMPROVEMENT ON STORM SEWER THROUCN PROPERTY BE AT EXPENSE OF TNE
DEVELOPEH.
4. STORM WATER (7UALITY AND QUANTITY AGREEMENT WZTH AATACENT pROPERTY TO 1'HE
NORTX.
5. RPPROVRL OF THE RICE CREEK WATERSHED DZSTRZCT WITH ALL PLANS FOR DRAINAGE
COMZNG TO TXE CITY ENGZNEER FYJR AppROVAL.
6. LIFT STATIOH BE PLACE IN SUCN A MENNER ON TNE SITE SO TNE CITY CAN I.00K
FOR FUTURE GRAVITY FI�(7W TO THE NORTX.
7. PARK FEE REpUIREMENT. �
The petition, Mr. Fehn, was in agreement with these stipulations.
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�ON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE, CNAIRWOMAN SCNNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2. PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING REQUEST ZOA N83-04 BY ALIEN fEHN: Rezone any
part of Proposed Lot 1, Western Ridge Estates, to R-3 that is not already
zoned R-3 (general multiple dwellings) as part of the Lot is zoned R-1 (one
family dwellings) and R-2 (two family : dwelli�gs) to allow the development of
an 8 unit towohouse type of development; and rezone any part of proposed Lot 2,
Western Ridge Estates to R-2 (two family dwellings)that is not already zoned
R-2 (part of the 1ot is zoned R-1 (o�e family dwellings} for an existing double
bungalow at 1250 Hillwind Road (See pubtic hearing notice for complete -
legal description).
MOTZON BY MR, ICqypR2�JC� SECQJDED BY KS, GAgEL� TO OPEN THE p(IgLIC HEARING
ON ZOA NB3-04 BY ALIEN FEgN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, AZ,L yOTZNG AIB� CHAIR470AlAN SCHNABEL DECLAREB THE
PUBLZC HEARING OpEN AT 8:2Z p,y,
Mr. Boardman stated that, essentially, what they are trying to do with this
request is clean up the zoning so it is contiguous with the lot lines.
Ms. 5chnabel asked Mr, Fehn to outline what he was proposing.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETIN6 JANUARY 11, t984 PAGE 4
Mr, Fehn stated he is asking for a rezoning to R-3 to clean up the zoning
in order to facilitate the development of a townhouse-type development for
rentat application. In the R-3, he �s proposing a double bungalow and then
three other structures, essentially six units tied together. In order to get
the units built into the hill, get a road around the back. put in water and
sewer, and make this project a financially viable situation. he is asking for
this type of rezoning. In order to accomnodate townhouses, he has to be in
R-3. If it remained R-2 zoning and he relegated the develppment to double
bungalows, it would not made any sense economically,
Mr. Fehn stated the double bungalow would be of the same quality as the one
he is living in. The rental unit he presently has rents for $650/month.
The other units wili rent for approximate7y the same price. He has to have
high qua]ity, high rental units, in order to facilitate the cost of the units
and to facilitate the number of units he is proposing.
Mr. Kondrick asked about the square footage per floor in the townhouses,
Mr. Fehn stated per floor, there would be about 600 sq. ft., 1200 sq, ft.
of rental with the two f]oors plus the garage unit below plus storage.
Total for all three levels was 1.800 �n. ft. The double bunaalow would have
a slightly different configuration. That 2-story building would be
comparable in size to the existing one which is about 1,700 sq.�Ft. of
living space p7us garage.
Ms. Gabel asked if any variances were needed on the northerly corner,
Mr. Boardman stated that Mr. Fehn will be going through a variance process
also. Those variance requests wili be going through the appea)s process
and all requests will go to the City Council at the same time.
Mr. Fehn stated he is also proposing an underground storage/maintenance
structure, 35 ft. x 40 ft., in the northeast corner. The entrance to that
building will face west.
Ms. Gabel asked why Mr. Fehn was proposing a double bungalow instead of
just making continuous townhouse units.
Mr. Fehn stated there is a culvert coming across from the freeway that pre-
determines what he can do with the property. It provides a drai�age easement
between the two properties.
Ms. Schnabel asked about drainage around the units.
Mr. Fehn stated that was a difficult problem and one of the costly aspects
of this praject because of the steep hill. He stated they do have a plan
to take care of the drainage.
Mr. Boardman stated this will require Rice �reek Watershed District approval.
Ms, Schnabel asked if there was anyone in the audience who would like to
make any cortments.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 11 1984 PAGE 5
Mr. Charles Sheridan. 1313 Hillwind Rd., stated he was concerned that with
the rezo�ing to R-3, they would be opening the door ta more R-3 developments
in this area. As far as traffic. it is going to make it more difficult
Decause they are in a closed area and it is a hard area to get in and out of.
There is already a terrible traffic prablem.
Ms. Carol Fassett, IODt Lynde Dr., stated that if the land is rezoned to
R-3� Mr. Fehn is proposing a total of 8 units. With the square footage of
the property. how many units would be possible?
Mr. Soardman stated that with the square ioota9e, Mr. Fehn could put in a
total of 12 units. If the land remained R-2, he could put in 6 units.
Ms. Schnabel asked when Mr, fehn proposed startin9 construction.
Mr. Fehn stated that if all the requests are approved� he hoped to start
construction in the spring. The financial situation looks favorable.
Ms. Schnabel asked Mr. Fehn if he planned to construct all the untts at
one time or was he going to do a phase at a time?
Mr. fehn stated he would like to have that flexibility, He hoped to be
able to do it atl at one time, but if he would have to do it in Segments,
he would like that option. Hopefully, it would all be completed in 1984,
Ms. Schnabel stated the comment was made that there would be the potential
in the future for selling the units off as candominiums. She asked
Mr. Boardman how that would be handled in terms of the land itself.
Mr. 8oardman stated that generally a condominium plat is a plat that is
submitted directly to the county. There would be an associatiort. The lot
underneath the units is not split, just the units themselves are split.
So, all the land, including the land under the buildings, is owned commonly
by the association,
Ms. Schnabel asked if it was possible to split the units into townhouses.
Mr. Boardman stated it was possible. There would have to be a replat,
because there would be a splitting of land for townhouses, and there are
variance requirements. It wuuld still require an association.
Ms. Fassett stated that a couple of years ago, there was a proposal before
the Planning Cormnission for an apartment complex befiind the swamp back on
the hill. At that time, the neighborhood decided that what they could live
with in that area, because of the density of rental units already in this
area, was owner-occupied multiple dwelling units. She realized the units
proposed by Mr. Fehn were going to be high quality. but she wanted to register
some concern about these units being rental units. She would be much more
comfortable if Mr. Fehn was building tfie units to sell. She stated she
lived right on the corner by the apartment buildings, and there are a lot
of traffic problems, children problems, and other problems associated with
living next door to an aparbnent building and the density of it. She stated
she had talked to some of her neighbors and this was the concern that came
from the neighborhood.
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Mr. Kondrick stated he fe]t one thing that will cane into play with this
is that it is going to cost a lot io build those units.
Ms. Janet Sheridan, 1313 Hillwind Rd., stated it seemed they had their
share of rentai units in this area as compared to other areas in Fridley.
Ms. SchnabeT stated she realized the biggest drawback in this area was the
intersection at Old Central/Highway 65/Hackmann.
Mr. Boardman stated the City Council has channeied some CbBG monies to do
traffic studies on that intersection, along with several other intersections.
There will be a major traffic analysis and recomrtiendations fran a consuiting
firm.
Ms, Schnabel stated the Pianning Commission would 7ike to have a chance to
review that traffic analysis when it is done.
_. MOTIpJ BY NR, XONDRIQC� SECONDED BY PII2. OQUIST� TO CL0.SE THE PUBLIC HEdRING
ON 20A NB3-04 BY ALLEN FEHN,
UPON A YOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNRBEL DECLARED THE PUBLZC
BERRIN6 CLQSED AT 8:50 P.M. ;
Mr. Goodspeed stated he had heard a lot of concern about more renters in
this neighborhood. As he understood it, a person can rent out a unit no
matter what the zoning, R1� R2� or R3. He stated that if the Planning
Commission approved this zoning, was the rezoning corttingent upon the plan
presented by Mr, Fehn?
Mr. Boardman stated it is sometimes done that way. Just a rezoning itself
does not necessarily restrict property to a development. What the City
Council has done in the past is to have the first and second reading on the
rezoning. but they will not publish the actual rezoning until the building
permit is applied for.
Ms. 5chnabel asked if the Planning Comnission could approve the rezoning
contingent upon this specific proposal. -
Mr. 8oardman stated they could put stipulations on Lhe rezoning if they
chose to do so, but he did not know if there were any legal ramifications
at some point down the line if the petitioner did not develop the property
as proposed,
Mr. Kondrick stated the property is such that the deve7oper is pretty
limited as to what can actually be buiit there.
Mr. Goodspeed stated the area they are talking about for rezoning is a very
small area compared to the larger picture. He stated there was also the
comnent about traffic. Regardless of what development goes in there, there
is going to be just as much traffic, whether rental traffic or homeowner
traffic. He stated he was in favor of the rezoning,
PLANNING COhQ+lIS5I0N MEETIN6, JANUARY 11, 1984
PAGE 7
MOTZON BY MR. GOOD SPEED, SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST, TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF REZONZNG REQUEST, ZOA # 83-04, BY ALLEY FEHN, TO REZONE ANY PART
OF PROPOSED LOT 1, WESTERN RIDGE ESTATES, TO R-3 TXAT ZS NOT ALREADY 20NED R-3
{GENERAL MULTIPLE DWELLING$ AS PART OF TNE LOT ZS ZONED R-1 (ONE FAMILY DWELLZNq
AND R-2 (TWO FAMILY DWELLZNGS) to a2low the deveZopment of an 8-•UNIT TOWNHOUSE
TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT: AND REZONE ANY PART QF PROPOSED LOT 2, WESTERN RIDGE ESSATES,
TO R-Z (TWO FRMILY DWELLZNGS) TXAT ZS NOT RLREADY ZONED R-2 (PRRT OF THE IS ZONED
R-2 (ONE FAMZLY DWELLINGSf FOR AN EXISTING DOUBLE BUNGALOW AT 1251 XILLWZND ROAD,
WITX NO STIPULATIONS.
UP(JN A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIN6 AYE, CHAIRIJOMAN SCNNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY.
Mr. Boardman said these minutes would be going to the City Louncil on January
23rd and the Council would set the public hearing for February 27th.
3. LOT SPLIT REQUEST, L.S. 1183-06 BY ALLEh E SINGER: Split �ff the
Easterly 13 feet of Lots 1- 5, ex�cept that part platted as Heather Hi11s�
including adjacent 1/2 of alley, now vacated, along with vacated Colfax
Street as platted, now vacated, al�ng with the Westerly 27.26 feet of
Lot 10, Auditor's Subdivision No. 22, except that part platted a� Rice
Creek Estates 2nd Addition, and except Parcel 1860 and 1870, to make a
new 6uilding site, the same being 1490 Rice Creek Road N.E., located
between 1450 and 1500 Rice Creek Road N.E.
Mr, Boardman stated the petitioner is requesting to split off the easterly
portion of the property into two lots, one lot would be 74 ft. wide and
the other lot would he 73 ft, wide. 7he lots are very deep, 230 ft. and
215 ft. Mr. 5inger is also going through the variance process on the width
of the lots from 75 ft, to 74 ft, and 73 ft. He stated the lot split will
not be established until the variances are granted, Ne stated one stipu-
lation should be that all three new lots must be recorded at Anoka County
before permits are issued. Mother stipulation would be for a 15 ft.
bikeway/walkway easement along Rice Creek Road,
M�TION BY XR, OpUIST� SECONDED BY MR, GQ�DSPEED� TO RE'CO/1MEND PO CZTY
COUNCIL APpRpylli, pF IAT SPLIS REQUEgT� L.S. p83-06� BY RLLEN E, SINGER�
TO SPLIT OFF THE EASTERLY 13 FEET OF LOTS 1- 15� EXCEPS 2HAT pART PLATTED
AS XEATHER HZLLS� SNCLUDING AA7AC�NT 2/1 OF ALLEy, NOW VACATED� AZANG WITH
VACATED COLFAX STREET AS pLATTED� NO47 VACATED� ALONG WITX THE WESTERLY
27.T6 FEET OF LOT 10� AUDI20R'S Sl1BDIVISZON N0. 22� EXCEPT THAT PART PLATTED
AS RICE CREEK ESTATES 2ND ADDSTION, RND EXCEpT PARCEL 1860 AND 1870� Tt�
M+9KE A NEW pUILDZNG SITE� THE SA1g' BEZNG 1490 RZCE CREEK ROAD N.E.� IqCAT6D
BET47PEN 1450 AND 1500 RICE CREEK RDAD N,E.� WZTy THE FOLLOG7ING STIPULATIONS:
1. 15 FT, BIKEWAY/WAyKWAY EASEMENT ALpfVG RIC.� �Ex ROAD
?. PARK FEE
3, ALL THREE IpfS MUST 3E RECORDED AT )iNOKA CWNTY HEi1�RE ANy
PERMITS RRE ISSUED.
UPON A VOZCE VCJTE� AyL ypTING AYE� CIiAIRWOMAN SCXPABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNNJZMDUSLY. , �
Mr, Boardman stated this request and the variance request would go to
City Council on Feb, 6.
PLANNIN6 COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 11 1984 PAGE 8
E.
MOTION BY MR. C,DODSPEED� SEQONDED BY MR. KONDRICK� 7L7 OPEN THE PUBLIC
HEARZNG,
UPON A VOICE WTE� ALL VOTSNG AYE� CHASRWOMAN SC7iNABEL DECLARED THE
pi1BLIC HEARSNG OPEN RT 9:22 P.M.
Mr. Bob Aldrich, Fire Chief for the City of Fridley, stated some back-
ground information might De helpful to the Planning Commission in under-
standing why they are proposing to put what appears to be a construction
feature in the 2oning Code.
Mr. Aldrich stated that prior to 1980 when the State of Minnesota adopted
the 79 Building Code which was a mini/maxi code (meaning they could not be
any less than or any greater than the code), they had a feature in their
local ordinances that treated building codes that set certain limits that
were defined as fire limits,and within those limits, they had some rather
restrictive controls on the size of commerclal. industrial, and.multiple
dwelling buildings. With the adoption of the code in 1980, the State
knocked out the ability of local governments to incorporate fire limits
as part of the building code; and in doing so, they knocked out a
considerable degree of fire protection requirements the City had. going
almost back to 1965 when he worked with the code.
Mr. Aldrich stated there has been a considerable amount of agitation
throughout the state by fire service people and himself in that they did
not feel the State should pre-empt local units of government from deter-
minin9 what tevels of fire protection the community shou7d accept. That
was ihe opinion of most of the fire chiefs in the state.
Mr, Aldrich stated that after a lot of pressure from the fire service,
they were able to get the State to acquiesce and develop a.document that
is known as Appendir, E, which is primarily a sprinkler ordinance. Once
again, the State did the same thing, they presumed to te]1 local units of
government that they either buy it all or not buy any of it at all.
Mr, Aldrich stated he took Appendix E before the City Council. They had
their first reading on it, and the City Council and City Administration
asked him to look through the community seeking input. He stated he did
this, primarily through the Chamber of Commerce. He stated Appendix E is
considerably more restrictive than whaL he is proposing they put in the
Zoning Code now. He stated two canments were received, and both comments
were cleared up after explaining the standards. The concerns primarily
dealt with retroactivity. and there isn't a retroactive feature per se in
Appendix E, There is a retroactive feature in Section 205,048 which they
are proposing be added to the Zoning Code.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 11 19$4 PAGE 9
Mr. Aldrich stated that brings them to where they are now, He could perhaps
go back to the City Council and get a second reading on Appendix E which is
even more restrictive than is necessary in the City of Fridley. The reason
they are looking at the Zoning Code as the place to carry this particular
standard is because it is a rather broad spectrum ordinance that deals with
the general health, safety, and welfare of the community and also sets
standards in other areas of construction so, at least in his opinion, there
is a nominal and coincidental link between building construction standards
in the Zoning Code.
Mr, Aldrich stated that after discussing this with sane other staff people
in the City and Mr. Qureshi, City Manager. and in keeping with his own
feelings that Appendix E is more restrictive than is necessary, they felt
the best way was to put this in the Zoning Code, The procedure for Zoning
Code amendments require that they be handled through the Planning Commission
with a public hearing.
Mr. Aldrich stated there are 2-3 areas that carry a lot of impact as far as
he was concerned, One of the chief areas is that by sprinkling a building,
you increase the safety factor for fire fighters markedly, reduce the risks
for them, and that is a very important aspect.
Mr. Aldrich stated another think that is equally important to th�
community as a whole is that with the adoption of a requirement that
builders and developers assume some of the burden of fire protection in
tfieir own right as opposed to making it a public burden all the way, they
can limit to a high degree the resource commitment of the canmunity, as
far as providing fire protection. He would suggest he could probably get
by with 1/8 of the fire department personnel he has now if he had nothing
more to protect than single family residences. So, it does have an
economic impact upon the comnunity as a whole and makes the job a lot
safer for those who do it.
Mr, Aldrich stated they feel that what they are proposing really strikes
a happy medium. He fe]t the benefits to the com�unity as a whole far
outweighed the disadvantages to the individual 6uilder. As fire chief,
his primary role was to do what was in the best interests of the greatest
number of peopie in the community. He stated Brooklyn Ce�ter and Plymouth
are even more restrictive than the state and it has not hampered development
in those twa communities.
Ms. Gabel stated she did not feel the members of the Planning Comnission
were knowledgeable enough to argue with what Mr, Aldrich was recommending.
She stated she respected what he did. She had a lot of faith in his
recormnendation, and if he felt this was in the best interests of the people
of fridley� she was comfortable with that recommendation.
Ms. Schnabel agreed and stated that with some of the new construction that
is 9oing on like motels and hotels, she felt it was important to have
something like Mr. Aldrich was proposing.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JAi�UARY 11, 1984 PAGE 10
Mr. Aldrich stated that if the members of the Plannin9 Cortmission ever had
any questions, they were to feel free to cali him at the office.
Ms. Schnabel thanked Mr. Aldrich for coming to the meeting and explaining
this. It had been very interesting.
Mr. Boardman reviewed the remaining recomnended changes to Chapter 2�5.
He stated that all of the other changes were clean-up changes for better
clarification.
MOTIDN BY 1NR. OQUIST� SECYJNDED BY MH. KQ"7DRICK� TO CIASE TNE PUBLIC HEARING.
[TppN A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VpTINC AYE, CXRZRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
NEARING CLOSED AT 10:26 P.lt.
MOTION BY MR. Os?UIST � SECGWDED BY P42. GOOASPEED� TO RECI�MMEND TO CITY COUNCZL
APPROVAL OF R PROPOSED ORDIT�IANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 205 OF TNE FRIDLEY CITY
CODE ENTZTIED ^Z4ITING° BY ADDING SECTION Z05.048� FIRE PROTECTION REQUZR&
MENTS� AND MAXINC SOME CFIANGES ZN SECTIPNS 205.044, 205.046, 205.073,
205.074, 205.086, 105.I2I, ?05.132� 205.1GI, ZO5.151, 205.Z61, 205.181 AND
205.182.
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UPON A VOICE VC7TE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHASRWOINAIV SCXNABEL DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY.
5. RECEIVE NOVEMBER 29 1983, ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. OpUIST� SECLYJDED BY MR. XONDFtIQC� TO RECEIVE NDY. 29� 19B3�
ENERGY COMMZSSZON MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE�ALL VOTING AYE� CNAIRF70MAN SCNNABEL D£CLARED TNE MOTION
CRRRIED UNAI9ZMOUSLY.
6. RECEIVE DECEMBER 1, 1983, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSIOP� MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. GQ�ASPEED� SECDNDED BY J�t. OpUZST� TD RECEIVE�THE DEC. I� 1983�
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMZSSION MINUTES.
UPGW A VOSCE VOTE� ALL VOTIA'G AYE� CXAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ADJDURNMENT:
MOTZON BY ffii. RONDRICK� SECONDED BY tqi. OpUIST � TO AAJOURN TTiE MEETING. UPON
R VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE� CNAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE JAN. 11� 1984�
PLANNING COMMISSILIV MEETZNG AA7GYJRNED AT 10; 45 p,1N,
Respectful)y su itted,
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Recording Secretary
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Zp: PL�AIdPIIi� C.Tk4RISSICJN
E'I2�1: JQtRY BOARII�iAN, CPPY Pi.ilI�II1F12
SIJBJDCP: P�'IEDTP 70 �IE RFDbUFI,OPf4S7P PRQJY7CP ARFA N0. 1
AA3£: FIDIdJARY 2� 1984
Please see attached a copy of the above noted Plan Amen�nent approved by the
HI2A and sutxnitted to the City Council for apprwal. Under Chapter 462 of the
Minnesota State Statutes such modifications to existing plans also need to be
reviEwerl by the Planning Camnission for consistency to the Canprehensive Plan.
�e werall intent of the amenc3nent is to place all those property that are
detemined to need impetus for development, increase af anployment, promotion
of certain public purposes and pranotion of certain objectives as specified in
the amended Redevelopnent Plan into Project Area No. 1. By doing so, this
allaas maxim� flexibility to the HRA with use of the general reserve systen.
In zevi�aing the plan ar.�en�nents in conjunction with the Comprehensive Plan,
we feel the amendment is specifically consistent with the followinq:
Qia ter Oblectsve Pbli�y
1 1 2
1 2 1
1 3 4
1 4 2
3 2 1
3 2 2
3 2 3
5 4 2
It should also be noted that the proposed amen�nent is not inconsistent with
aryy of the goals, objectives or policies as laid out in the Comprehensive
Plan. I am attaching a resolution for your consideration for apprwal at the
February 8, 1984 meeting. 'Ihis is the same resolution �ssed by the Planning
Canmission in the initial establistunent of the Redevelognent Plans.
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Attachment
3/0/19/5
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RF`�'.�Q.iTPION ND. 1 - 1984
A R�SQ�VPION OF �iE PLANNING C�AILSSION OF TEiE CITY OF
FRICB.EY, FITIDII� �IE FRID�,E,'Y HQJSING AND RIDEVII.OPMENT
MTIfIORITY'S tK)DIFIID RIDEVII,OPMENT PLAN IS CONSISTENT
WP1H �iE �[�RF�iFNS1VE DE,VIIAPf+�Ni' PLAN OF TfiE CITY OF
FRIDi,E,'Y
WHII2FAS, the Fridley Housing and Redevelopment Authority has submitted the
Modified Redevelog;�ent Plan to Redevelognent Project No. 1 to the Fridley
Planning Cumnission as per Minnesota Statute, Chapter 462; and
WHEREAS, the Fridley Planning Commission has reviewed the Modified
Redevelopnent Plan to determine consistency of said plan to the Fcidley
Canprehensive Develognent Plan.
hT,�^7, `IHEREEORE, BE IT RESQ,VID BY THE PLANNING COM7�fISSION OF TE3E CITY OF
FRIDLEY:
TY�at the Nbdified Redevelopment Plan for Redevelopment Project No. 1 is
consistent with the Comprehensive Development Plan to the City of Fzidley
and the Conur,ission recc�;m�ends approval of the plan to the City Council.
PASSID Ai�ID ADOPTID BY �iE PLANNING NhII�lI6SION OF THE CITY OF FRIDLEY THIS
87H LIAY OF FFBRUARY, 1984.
VIFtGI?:IA S(iltgSBfl� - Ci3A]RPERSOt�i
ATIFST;
SIDNEY C. II�A7AN - CITY (3�ERP
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REDEVELOPMENT
AUTHORITY
VE DIAE
UBJECT Suggested Amendments to Redevelopment Housi
Project Area
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M E M OR A N D U M
MEMO NO. 63'88
TO ACTION INF
& Redevelopment Authority X
Please see attached memo from Nasim Qureshi, City Manager, considering the City
Councilsuggestion to expand the Redevelopment Project Area H1 as outlined on
the included map. All of these properties are presently vacant properties and
only one is not located in Shool District 16. By amending the district, the
HRA is not capturing any increment, but merely allowing itself the flexibility
to assist in development. Any additional tax increment districts would require
additional public hearings.
In any case we have had a request for assistance on Lot 1, Block 2, East Ranch
Estates Second Addition from Mr. Bob Schroer (property owner) and Mr. Jerry
Pascfie (6eveloper). We have reached a tentative agreement for your consideration
in item �2 of the a9enda and if acceptable would have to amend the Redevelopment
Project Area #1.
I am including in your folder the necessary documents that are needed for your
action if this amendment is something you want to consider.
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MEMORANDUM
G[TY O� FRIDL6Y
6Y31 UNIyEqSfTY AVE. N6.
FRIOLEV� MN. 6SC32 16Ty5Tt�3457
MEHO TO
FROM:
SUBJECT
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OFFICE OF TME CITY MANAGER
NASIM M. DURESMI
December 2, 1983
JERROLD BOARDMAN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, FRIDLEY HOUSING AND
REDE�ELOPMENT AUTHORITY
CITY MANAGER
POSSIBLE INCLUSION OF LOT 1, BLOCK 2, EAST RANCE ESTATES
SECOND ADDI7ION AND OTHER EMPTY COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL
PROPERTIES NDRTH OF RICE CREEK IN THE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT
Mr. Bob Schroer, owner of Lot 1, Block 2, East Ranch Estates, which is
in the southwest corner of University and 79th Avenue, approached the
Councilman of the Ward, Ed Hamernik, to seek some assistance in develop-
ment of the property. Councilman Hamernik, because of some serious soil
problems with this property making it difficult to develop, suggested
that some assistance be given by the Housin9 and Redevelopment Authority
to this property. There was consensus on this issue by the City Council.
There was also discussion that the vacant commercial/industrial property
north of Rice Creek be included in the development district.
Please pass these suggestions on to the Housing and Redevelopment Authority
for their consideration.
7hank you for your assistance.
NMQ/ms
CC: City Council
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Fridley's landscape is a direct physical expression of its living
e�virornne�t. Residential, camercial, industrial and open space
have often been arranged in a way that has created occasional
scenes of disparity with elenents of incompatible objects. This
general lack of unity is not uncommon in many communities,
Attenpts are necessary to give coherance to the camnunity, provide
unifiw tion among disp3rate elements, and enhance the visual
quality of the �virorunent.
T6e City stauld protect and enhance the visual qualities of its
residential neic�borhoods.
A. �e City should pra�vte preservation and rehabilitation, wheze
possible, instead of clearance and redevelopment in order to
retain the ciiacacter of neighborhoods.
B. �e City shwld pro�ote a jouit effort of public iniQrwements and
neighborhood rehabilitatim to reta.in the local identity ard im�e
af neighborhoocls.
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D.
B.
Tt�e City should encourage ner housing construction to be
oo�etible vith neighbochoods in vhic� tbey aze located.
�e City s6ould develop a sha�de tree p]anting pcogram to add year
raud visual interest ard color to residential neigtibockaods.
�e City should esoourage city wide private landscaping and site
inpros�soPnts through public edx.ation.
F. �e City should provide strict enforcement of litter, nuisance
aDat�ent, and yard aaintes�ance ordinances supple�ented through
public educatim.
�e City shwld pro�ote o�mercial develo�t and redevelopment that
has a.in;m.e vis�.tial ard pLysicall i�act on adjaoent residential azeas,
vhile f�roving the visual quality of o�mercial azeae.
A. ST�e City sLould pro�oke visuai inprav�ents such as landscaping,
street furniture, etc., to add character and identity to
oo�ercial azeas.
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8. me City shwld �foroe all aspacts of the Eoning Code and Sign
Ordinance to assure qualitp control in the desiqn of ner
ao.��cial develofa�ait.
C. �e City should crooperate ritb busin�ses 3n an effort to pro�ote
oonsistenc.q and oc4atibility in building facade i�rove�ents and
�r ��Y �i9� P�r� �e public improvaents in
ocmmercial azeas.
3. �e City should ernourage i�cov�rnts to el�harioe the visual inage of
incY�strial azeas ard re3�oe the i�s m adjac��t residential areas.
A. The City s6ould continue to require buffer aones betreen
+ �lldl]Stildl 2tld rfSidE+sltial 3IEi3B.
B. i'he City should encourage nev bevelop�e�t and design that is
oo�atible vith existirg site oonditions and follovs ordinances
oor�ernirg visual quality ard lar�ing requiremgtts. •
4. �e City shwld pco�ote the gotection and enhanc�ent of all scenic
assets to the City includ'ug parks, open space, lakes, river, creeks
and other natural areas.
A. The City sbould ensure developeent does not have a significant
ne9ative iiq�act m key so�ic vicvs vhile enoouragiug desig� vhicb
pce.seives, erihanoes oc creates soenic via�s.
B. �e City should iaQrove the soenic g�ality of sLorelards, through
ce�oval of blighted structures and/or screening of nan�ade
features.
C. ffie City should disoairage utility crossings ard locate necessarp
crossings vhere they bave tLe least visual impact on natural
azeas.
D. �e City sbould, �here feasible, allov ard identify public trails,
soPnic motozr�ays ard soenic overlodcs along natural areas,
B. 1Y�e City sbould allw selective vegetative pruning to increase
visual contact rith nabural azeas.
a�• • �• a�• r �: a�• . •n � �
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n the City's dsna3caphic and econanic character require
constantly evaluate the best use of the land still
�for develoFirtpnt or redevelopment. The City reco9nizes
economic and enployment vitality is, for the most part,
on ti�e stability of the business caivnunity.
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l, ibe City �ou1d aaintain fts econ�ic diversitp and strengtL vhile
g�oouraqing ner eaona�ic graeth•
A. �e Citp shoiild oor►tinue to attract and hold ca�patible grovth
ittdustzies, busuiesses. ard �anufacturing.
B. t'he Citp sbould intensifp future industrial and coamercfal
develqa�t vhic� rill pcwide tbe City vith additional taz base
and aQloyeent.
C. The City should plan for �edi� and high densitp residential
develop�ent ia those areas co�patible for a rell balanced
eeployment foroe.
� D. ihe City should coopera�l vith oajor land ovners in the
� redevelo�a�t p¢ crmoPrcial atYi i�stiial PropertY• '
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X B. The City should plan for tLe develop�ent of underutilise�'f
ipsir3��rtFial grg�. � -
2. 1l�e City should assist businesses to upgrade oc�nercial azd industrial
areas.
!l. SY�e City should sbudy its strip �+p*cial areas ior the purpose
of i�xwing theit fiux:tim a�d effici�c.y.
B. The City sbould continue to pro�ote revitalization of its
oo�nercial arYi ir�strial azeas through effocts like the Center
City Project.
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There is a growin9 realization of the consequences that mankind
faces if he does not stop the practices that have altered so much
of the envirorunent. Fridley recognizes the importance of using
rasources wisely and properly mar�a9in9 land resources. Piecemeal
urbanization has in the past been insensitive to existing
�vizorunental conditions. The City stiould manage new development
and reduce past development impacts on land resources in our
envirorunent. �
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1;J Tbe City should Pro�ote ezpansion or develo�ent that respects the
�tural �viraaient-
11. �e Gity shou]d Protect a[�d �er�a9� ��'uor�entally sensitive
ueas.
B. �e City should Ermit on1Y c�o�F'atible uses in undeveloped areas
alotg the Mit�sissi�pi River.
Z, '1'be City sbould pto�ote develop�ent in accocdance vith ezisting
. envirotaa�tal oonditians af the site.
�. '�IC Cl� St10U� �infain �L�O� SYail�tdS hclLj aPSl�j1 CL1tEI13
to prevent impropei site desigi or •s� of J�and ard resauoes-
a � �lh, �,� �t�we to enforce zo�wig code re9ulations tbat
oontrol site develofaat�.
3. 7i�e City should �adifY �itY wide desicp oontrols vithin the wnin4 cude
and special design controls applied an specific areas vhece such
oontrols � se�e as a spacial ard substantial Public interest:
: �� � Citp is involved in ]anci asse�bly and disposition
pcooetc s,.j
s �� protecting ard reu�foccing public ard private e�ndlture fot
Y181331 111��COV�s � �prCld� dL6d[i.
• f�� protectiryg and reu�forcirg public and private e�iture for
vis�al improva��ts �ear scenic azeas. !�
' Public e�ditures fot visual iapcovements in e:cess of the minim�m
tequiraents foc ezistin9 oz Pto9r� P`�lic facilities should be
focusea m specific ptojeet azeas:
: �eZe ax� eYpenditures are necessacy to �igitate tbe advecse
visual i�acts of the public facilities on the sucrounding
pel�'�O1110Oa.
• In co�ercial centecs vhere such expenditures can Ieverage
�stankiai �o►mts of private fiu�dinq ard suPPort foi additional
i�q�av�ts in the imrediate dre3.
* por ��ni� 3evelq�t, aid visual enhancement of parkland,
trails and key soenic aseas.
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Econanic prosperity is extrenely impo tant to any community.
However, the imFacts of development on oQle and land resources
must be considered. It is possible o have a quality living
envirorunent and econcmic pzosperity., zopziate combinations of
1ard use can provide this type of ironment. Bowever, it is
extrenely�iffiwlt to provide this � izonm�t in developed areas
as compafed to undeveloped ateas. In developed aceas such as
Fridley� efforts should be directed towarcis reducing the im�ect of
incpnpetible land uses.
�e Citp should enoauage a�pcopriate transitions betveen �ajor land
�se areas.
7t�e Citp shwld strive for Iand use oo�binations that create guality
living enviror�ts ard respec.t the natural enviror�ent.
1i1, The City s6ould see that blfghted areas, probla azeas or o�olete
I.ar�d uses are cemved or phased out wei a period of years.
B. llized land uses should only be pecmitted r6ere such uses a�e
cc�atible vith each other ard the em.iraraa►t.
3. Rl�e City shwld strive foc a rell balanced lard use sYsta-
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�e City sbould take a'vholeistic' approach to co�rehensive
P]aivun9 and. rd� ea�ro pr�t land uae.
Rl�e City shou].d use a reighborhood apgroaci� for detailed planning
ard analysis.
4. The City should continue to eaamine its present lands not zoned
resid�tial to derP•,o,� the feasibility of �king saoe of those lands
available for housi:g.
5. �e City shwld P�inP tbe feasibility of increasing densities in sme
ta�developed residential azeas.
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3.
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i?ie Citp staula Pro�°te
oonservation t�9�� �
LrxLSin9 st�•
7be CitY s�ould P�°�e ��m efforts on up-to-date
�et�nds for enei9Y relatea Da�e i�¢�s•
it�e City shail,d strengt� its eiforts to pcavide sir3/o=
pro�ote incentives for energy selated housing
�C°o'aasts.
�e CitY sLwla °ontu� �lae a� syst�atic enfocoe�t of
tbe City's 'Bousin9 Mau't� r'0��� to i� the rate of
��ny deteriocatian.
Ncos-�y N��.,�"a,�_E �c��t
y�,�e aode sboul3 be esamined to determine if mandatory
j� �� ��faaily units at the time of sale is
i �apriate.
increased efforts for energy
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It is projected that Fridley will need a substantial number of
additio�l housiix3 units by 1490. Howeverr Wlss blestoemeet the
zoned land neaZ1Y 97$ developed, it will be imPo
' housing denand with traditiona�osr�g�la n�onstanttor increaseaas
for home a.meZShig is likely �
n�n,becs of the "post-wac babY boa�' continue to reach adulthood.
In addition, increasing eneigy costs in a time of declining
sesouzces may require a shift Stanithe� n� ssarylifltherefislto
unit. Plternative housing tYPe
be moze intensive use of available land and an option for home
�ownecship.
�e �onstzuction of ns�imu�lt �ethelcirculationlof therhousing
housing situation by
stock. Construction of new, multiple unLOVidingnonelanditwo �
larger housing units for family use by p
person households• Moreover, develognPnts such as ta.mhouses and
�ndpniniiuns will give people a chance to be hameowi'ers.
POIdCTffi�
1, The City should stimulate ih�e � jt�i:on of multi-unit
Loasing for both o�et °�P
� Construction oi multi-�le �� s�g sL�oi l�� t
densities vhic� ace c�
g, Pev m�lti-wzit
�ities sucb
azea�.
�o��ts s�oul,d have adequate access to
� op�l Spece� gzeen areas and sLopping
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C, iLe design of �ulti-unit ProJec�s sb°uld ensure the
tions of the
security oi its residents. (Recoamenda, .
�i� �� �kl�• sLould be utilized toratd
crime Pcev�t�m•)
D. ?he City si�ould use la� vrit�, wLere it iscin the
districts a� athet local Ko4r m o� �1tiPle
public 3,ntecest. tA P��+� nar oonstrncti
►nit housin9- �
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� t of ne+r tovnDouses
Z• � �� �� �r� � �l�n 1 of detached
and condoaini� to supplement the supp y
su�gl�fanilY �asits.
�, �e City sha�ld reviev its pc�t ]atd use to determine
� mLe �,�7 �p�la be �ade available foi zesidential
Lousin9•
B. �e City s6ould allw petitians foc tesidential rezonin9
of industiral and co�meLCial properties that are
adjacent to pack land and other residential
neighbottiood�.
C� T�r��i� i� ��� f�aot�tbe develop�ent of
p, The City should periodically revi� its residential
yoniig ordinanaes in order to oonsider n�+ appio�' to
housin9 Prablas. ^
�ie City SLould Ps�P �ative tYPes of t�ousin9. _ ,
]►, The City sbould enco�cage th to serveupeople with -
convezsion of existing housing�� foL the elderly
special s+ee3s s�h as oon9 e9a
a�d haLSU►g for the phYsically handiczPPed•
g� �e (:ity should encourage forms of ener9y Pi�'�lon ard
conservation in all ne++ construction and conversion
activities.
�7�GTIVE 9�: (HQ�L HOOSII� O�EOHIU�
�7E HppS7I� P'Odt Aii, PRIDIl� 1iF5ID�s �I� aF BfASf�D
�� �6ITI�N� ]1GE OR liACE
Disciimination in regard to housing is against the law. rtuni y Y
should oontinue to enfocoe the laws of equal ho�sin9 oPP°
3-5
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B.
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h D.
She Citp s6onld sake effocts to zeduce ttaffic
genecated noise in ceside�tial neigl�bortnods.
7l�e City should reviev access of through tcaffic to
resi�nr;a� reighbortriads. -
�e City should prmte traffic safetp in residential
neighbork�oads.
�e City should continue the residentinl street visual
inP'tav�t F�ogram-
n
� _�e City should revic� traffic vol�aes in recreational and
� �` a�viror�rtally se�sitive aieas.
.:;•4/p • �� •�:i• s � • s ia r.• e�� �. � o-• •:�
Fridley, because of it's excellent acoess to other areas, is an
ideal location for businesses and industry. The highway system
and railways provide for efficient movement of goods and
services. HoWever, the adverse effects of moving goods and
services must be minimized in residential neighborhoods. This
will insure a viable social and residentially sound City.
Et71.TQPS: 1.
2.
3:
7}�e City should oontinue to develop good access routes foc
ttur.Ic use to .inim;9p eifects m residential neighborhoods
and to see tbat ttvcking nee3s aze �e�t.
�e City stiould continue to encourage the development of
freight sLipping facilities near pe�ipheral a�tecial
interch�rges and rail facilities.
�e City stseet classification syst� should be consistent
� vith the fiuictia�al classification systau as detetmined by
the tr000ii�� Devel� �i .
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CITY OF FRIDLEV
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION
MEETING
JANUARY 5, 1984
CALL TO OR�ER:
Chairperson Goodspeed called the January 5, 1984, Human Resources Comnission
meeting to order at 7:35 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Brian Goodspeed, Bob Minton, Peter Treuenfels
Menbers Absent: Mary van Dan, Barbara Kocher
Others Present: Bill Hunt, Administrative Assistant
APPROVAL OF DECEMBER 1, 1983, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR, TREUENFELS� SECONDED BY MX. MINTOIJ� TO APPROVE THE DEC. I� Z983�
HU13AN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN,
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CNRIRPERSON GOOASPEED DECLARED THE MOTZON
CRRRSED UNANZMOUSLY.
1. OLD BUSINESS:
a. 1984 6uidelines for Applications for funding for Social Services
Mr. Goodspeed stated that at the last Human Resources Commission
meeting, the Commissioners had agreed that the letter should only
be sent to those organizations that have received funding in the
past. He stated that the last Planning Commission meeting in
December, the Planning Commission members fe7t the letter should
be sent to a71 the organizations that have a lied for fundin before.
(A list of those organizations was included in the agenda packet.
Mr. Goodspeed stated the Planning Commission did like the idea of
the organizations having to request the guidelines before receiving
them. He stated the Planning Comnission had approved the �uidelines
with a couple of minor changes.
Mr. Hunt stated he had already received one proposal dated Qec. 3l, 1983,
from the Fridley Senior Citizen Center.
Mr. Treuenfe7s stated one tfiing that was missing in the Senior Citizen
Center's proposal was how their request fit in with the HUD require-
_ ments. He stated a copy of the guidelines should be sent to the
Fridley Senior Citizen Center.
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 5 1984 PRGE 2
Mr. Goodspeed stated that at the March meeting, the Commission
will be reviewing and discussing the prop�sals and making recomnenda-
tions for funding ta the City Council.
Mr. Nunt stated the Comnissioners had received in their agenda packet
a couple of inemos regarding FY 1984 CDBG funds, along with the Anoka
County 7984 CDBG Work Schedule. He stated the CDBG funds the Commission
has been working with are 1983 funds; however, they now have �o
start work on recommendations for the 1984 CDBG funds which will be
distributed in this caiendar year. A joint meeting wi11 be heTd with
the Community Development Canmission on Tuesday, January 10, in order
to discuss project suggestions for the 1984 funds.
Mr. Hunt stated Mr. Treuenfels had some questions in Section 570.207,
"Ineligibie Activities", in the HUD regulations, regarding the prohibition
of monies and wages for the purchase of equipment, construction equip-
ment, furnishings and personal property, operating and maintenance
expenses. He stated he had discussed this with Mr. Boardman and, accord-
ing to Mr. Boardman, tfiis does not apply to human service grants.
Mr. Hunt stated Mr. Treuenfels had also raised the question of discrimi-
nation with regard to sex and how that applied to The Alexandra House.
Mr. Boardman had felt it did not apply because The Alexandra House is
a charitable organization for battered spouses, both male and female,
and that chi7dren are accepted, both male and female.
Mr. Treuenfels stated this brought to mind two other organizations--
the Senior Well Clinic and the Fridley Senior Citizen Center. Is there
discrimination on account of age? The Senior Well Clinic could probably
fall under the category of a charitable organization; however, the
Senior Citizen Center is really more recreational than charitable. By
implication, it is for senior citizens only, and he did not know if they
would actually exclude younger people.
Mr. Minton stated that is a problem with socia7 service programs that
have a certain target population; however, he had never heard of this
kind of thing being discriminatory. For example, he had never heard
of any United Way organization having a complaint lodged against any
program.
Mr. Treuenfels stated the problem would arise only if someone made a
complaint,
Mr. Minton asked how other organizations, other than those organizations
that have applied for funding in the past, would know that CDBG funds
were available,
Mr. Hunt stated he would send a press release to the Fridley Sun.
HUt4AN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 5 1984 PAGE 3
Mr. Minton stated it could also be announced on the city cable TV
channel.
b. Proclamation on Decade of Disabled Persons/Liaison Designation form
Mr. Hunt stated a proclamation on the Decade of Disabled Persons was
made by Mayor Nee on April 18, 1983. Ne stated the Commission had
recortmended to the City Council that Barbara Terpstra and Lyn� Boergerhoff
be designated liaisons between the City of Fridley and the National
Organization on Disability. He stated both Ms. Terpstra and
Mr. Boergerhoff were designated co-chairpersons by Mayor Nee on
Dec. 19, 1983.
MOTSON BY MR. MINTON, SECONDED BY MR. TRE
LZTY FOR THE NRNDICAPPED
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GOODSPEED DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANSMOUSLY.
c. Volunteerism
Mr. Minton stated he had ta7ked to Jane Greene, who is in charge of
volunteers at Unity Nospitai, and Carolyn iverson from Anoka County to
make sure a volunteer recognition program would work into their plans.
He stated he has also talked to the person in charge of the volunteer
recognition program in Edina. Apparently, at first, there was a dinner
along with the awards, but that didn't work out very well so it was
changed to a"wine and cheese" type of program and Mayor's awards are
given out to volunteers.
Mr, Minton stated he had a kit of materials put together for this purpose
by the Volunteer Action Center in St. Paul, He stated it was his idea
to establish a small committee that would work up a plan for a volunteer
recognition week in early May.
Mr. Hunt suggested Mr, Minton contact Siah St. Clair, City Naturalist,
and Connie McMillion, Parks & Recreation Dept „ and the Fridley Chamber
of Canmerce in looking for people to serve on the cortmittee.
MOTION BY MR. TREUENFEIS� SECONDED BY MR. MINTON� TXAT THE HUMAN RESOURC6S
GS�MMISSION WELCOME'S AND ENCOURAGES THE f'ORMATIQN OF A COMMITTEE TO
RECOGNI2E VOLUNTEERS IN TXE CITY OF FRZDLEY,
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE, CHRZRPERSON GOOASPEED DECLARED TNE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMO(JSLY.
CITY OF FRIDLEY
SPECIAL
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
MEETING
JANURRY 9, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Kondrick called the Special Parks & Recreation Commission meeting
of January 4, 1984, to order at 7:41 p,m.
ROLL CALL:
Menbers Present: Dave Kondrick, Mary Schreiner� Dick Young, Da� Allen
Menbers Absent: Jan Seeger
Others Present: Charles Boudreau, Parks & Recreation Director
Jack Kirk, Recreation Supervisor
1. Policy - Ice Locations (Dick Young)
The Comnission members reviewed and discussed the policy o� ice locations
prepared by Dick Young, making recommendations for changes.
Mr. Kondrick thanked Mr. Young for doing a fine job in putting this policy
together.
2. Policy - Comnunity Park
Dr, Boudreau stated this item was discussed at the Nov. 21 meeting;however,
there were only three Commission members present, and he felt any action on
this policy should be made with a full cortgnission. He thought it would be
beneficial to discuss this at a special meeting before making any final
d'ecisions at the regular Jan. 23rd meeting.
Dr. Boudreau stated that at the last meeting, they had discussed having two
tournaments a month during May, June, July, and August, totalling eight
tournaments. This would leave the fields open for Fridley residents at least
half the weekends during the sumner and would also leave alternate weekends
for rain-outs. They would try not to have any tournaments back to back.
The Comnissioners were in agreement with having two tournaments per month,
June - August, totalling eight tournaments.
Dr. Boudreau stated that at the last meeting, they discussed charging non-
profit organizations a fee of $600 and profit-making organizations a fee
of $1,000 per tournament.
SPECIAL
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 9 1984 PA6E 2
Mr, Young stated he did not feel those fees were out of line.
Dr. Boudreau stated the Parks & Recreation Department is looking at running
the concessions for one year to get a feel for how it is going to operate,
Mr. Young stated that, in the past, organizations were required to pay a
$100 clean-up deposit which was refundable after the grounds were cleaned
up. He stated fie would be concerned about the visible looks of the grounds
after a tournament is over.
Ms. Schreiner stated she was also concerned about clean-up.
Mr. Kondrick stated he thought an organization should have to pay a$100
clean-up deposit up-front in addition to the $600 and $1,000 fee.
The Commissioners were in agreement with a�700 up-front ciean-up deposit
to both non-profit and profit organizations, in addition to the tournament
fee, to be refun�ed after satisfactory clean-up of the grounds.
Mr. Young stated he felt clean-up should be done within 24 hrs. after the
tournament.
Mr. Kirk stated he would draft a letter of understanding and in it he would
state that this was a refundable clean-up deposit only, but yet the organi-
zations are to understand that they are responsible for the proper care and
clean-up of the facility. An organization wili also be responsible for
any unnecessary damage, and if the damage is not repaired or the facility is
not cieaned up, the organization will forfeit its chance to return the
following year.
Dr. Boudreau stated the Commission also discussed a deadline of Feb. 1 for
requests from non-profit organizations, with the decision to be made by the
Commission at their February meeting, and a deadline of March 1 for requests
from other organizations, with the decision to be made by the Commission at
their P1arch meeting. These requests would be on a first-come, first-serve
basis. These cut-off dates will have to be established at the Jan. 23rd
meeting.
Mr, Young stated he would like to see them set March 7 and April 1 as the
deadline dates for this yeer on]y, since this is the first year of operation.
Mr. Allen asked if they should specify no outside groups (outside Fridley)
at all or should they accept an outside group if there is an available
opening?
Ms. Schreiner stated she feit they should accept outside groups on a first-
come, first-serve basis if there are availabie openings.
Dr. Boudreau stated he would say "no" to any outside groups, because the
facility was built and is being maintained by the City of Fridley for the
residents of the City of Fridley. 1f, for any reason� they filled only 7
of the 8 avai)able openings, then that is all they should fill.
SPECIAL
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSIQN MEETItdG, JANUARY 9 1984 PAGE 3
The Comnissioners agreed that was probably tfie way it should 6e.
Mr. Kirk stated the City will loan any non-power equipment (hand drag, rakes,
etc.). This would be included in the 5600 fee. If an organization wanted
to use any af the City's power equipment, the organization would either have
to get a city employee to donate time to run the equipment or the organiza-
tion would have to hire the city employee at the regular hourly rate. In
tfiis way, the City is not loaning out city equipment without a city employee
being responsible for it.
Mr. Kirk stated if additional fields are involved (Locke or Commons), the
Commission needs to set some kind of per game/per day fee.
Mr. Allen stated they should be very careful about taking more ballfields
away from the general public now that there is a_community park.
Dr, Boudreau stated he would recormnend $25 per hour per field for additional
fields. That fee was in keeping with what some of the other communities are
charging.
Mr. Kondrick stated he thought it should be understood that the City is
trying to discourage the use af any other fields in other parks.
Ms. Schreiner asked what kind of priorities are they going to have for
returning teams?
Mr. Kirk stated they may want to say that returning groups would have
priority for their weekend. If a group wants to switch its weekend, it
would have priority over a new group but could not bump some other group.
Mr. Kirk stated he would out together an outline for suggested tournar�nt
procedures and would have that information for the next meeting.
3. Policy - Hockey Association of Fridley Support
Dr. Boudreau stated that the HAF has not yet made a formal written request
to the Parks & Recreation Comnission as they were requested to do.
Mr, Mike Pawlyshyn, President of the HAF, was invited to this meeting,
but he said he would be at tfie January 23rd regular Comnission meeting,
Dr. Boudreau stated that, historically, what the City has given the HAF
is 18 hrs. of ice time. That is 12 hrs, of ice time for house league
play-offs and & hrs, of ice time for broomball play-offs. This year� as
far as he can ascertain, the HAF does not even have a house league because
there are not enough teams.
Mr. Kirk stated that, in addition to ice time, the City has paid for the
officials. In turn, the HAF returns $2/registrant back to the City.
SPECIAL
PARKS & RECREATION C6MI�tIS5I0F1 MEETING JANUARY 9 1984 PAGE 4
Mr. Young stated that at the Nov. 21st meeting, it was suggested by Staff
that the City pay the HAF "x" amount of dollars per participant, and the
NAF could use that money for whatever it wanted,
Dr. Boudreau stated they still think that is a viable suggestion. Based on
the figures Mr. Kirk had collected, they are suggesting it should be done
for all the sports groups. not just for the HAF, They are suggesting the
Lity supplement ihe HAF. the FYSA, etc., up to $3-4 per participant in the
program. The organization verifies the registration, it gets the money,
and the City does not become involved in how that money is spent, The City
would then not pay for officials, buy ice time or equipment; however, the
City wou7d continue to maintain the fields.
The Commission members agreed that a per participant fee was a very good
idea.
Mr. Kondrick stated this should be discussed further at the February 13
meeting.
Dr. Boudreau stated he would inforri the FYSA that this idea was going to be
discussed and invite tfiem to the February meeting.
Mr, Kirk stated it would be helpful if one Commission mem6er would be willing
to work with him on coming up with a proposai that would be fair.
Mr. Kondrick stated he would volunteer to work with Mr, Kirk on a proposal
for a participant fee.
ADJ011RNMENT:
MOTZON BY M5. SCHREIN£R� SECONDED BY l�i. ALLEN� TO AAlOUl2N THE MEETINC. UPON
A VOiCS VOTE� ALL VOTINC AYE� CHASRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE JAN. 9� 1984�
SPECIAL PARKS 6 RECREfiTIQN COMMISSIDN MEETING RA70URNED RT 20:15 P.M.
Respectfully s mttted.
�� irt4.
Lynr�e Saba
Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
JOINT MEETING 0� COMMUNITY DEUELOPMENT COMMISSION & HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION
JANUARY 10, 1983
The meetiny convened informally at 7:35 p.m.
Cormunity DeveloDment Cortenission:
Members Present: Ken Vos, A1 Gabel
Members Absent: LeRoy Oquist, Carol Fassett, Louis Schmidt
Nunan Resources Commission:
Menbers Present: Peter Treuenfels, Bob Minton
Members Absent: Brian Goodspeed, Mary van Dan, Barbara Kocfier
Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
Bill Hunt, Administrative Assistant
Mark Burch, Asst. Public Works Director
1. 1984 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SLOCK GRANT MONIES:
Mr. Boardman stated that ever;� year ttiey gc through the same process with
Coranunity Development Block Grant monies. It takes about six months to
90 through the process before tiie funds are actually available to the City.
He stated Moka County has now been approved for a 3-year funding cycle
with the federal government. Each of the years before this, it was on a
year-to-year basis, because Anoka County was on the borderline of 200,000
ponulation, When the 1980 census came through, Anoka County was at 196,000,
so they went through special legislation each of the last three years to get
the federal government to give Anoka County block grants. Now, the estimates
for Anoka County are over 200,000, so this year they are just starting on a
3-year program.
Mr, Boardman stated the amount of CDBG monies has been going down yearly.
They started out with $280,000. For this year (1984), it 9s down to $728,000
for Fridley's share. They are 7ooking at about $128,000 for each of the
three years ($384,231 for three years). This $128,000 is based on the HUD
formulas for allocation of funds to Anoka County; it is based on poverty,
housing stock, and population.
Mr. Boardman stated he thought it was important to start looking at a possibie
three-year plan. There are going to be some projects that will be on a
project-by-project basis or year-by-year, and they will have to look at
it that way too.
JOIPdT t4EETING OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CaMMISSION
AND HUfiAN RESOURCES COMMISSION JANUARY 10 1984 PA6E 2
Mr. Boardman stated he went through the HUD regulations and sent out a
memo to all the department heads to go through the regulations. With the
feedback from the department heads and his understanding of the HUD
regulations, he put together a list of potential projects he felt would
satisfy the criteria and where there has been an indication of some need
in the past. One problem is there is really no definitive need analysis
in the City as to what is needed or not needed, so that year after year,
they end up coming up with a list of projects, prioritizing that list with
recommendations to the City Council, and letting the City Council select the
projects.
Mr. Boardman stated they have to take into consideration that these monies
are not going to be around much longer, and how are they going to make the
most use of these funds? By far, the best way of doing it is by having
programs where money is loaned out with a payback type of situation, so the
money is continually recycled, The real problem they get into with those
kinds of situations is the amount of staff time that is involved with the
recycling. It is far easier to go with a grant program.
Mr. Boardman stated some of the restrictions they run into are with the
block grant program itself. They have to show the benefit to 1Lw and moderate
income persons. Most of the time a loan program is not a workabie program
with Tow and moderate income, because by giving out loans and having those
loans paid back, a lot of the people receiving the loans cannot even afford
to pay back the loans on their limited income. So, the type of programs to
get involved in with the payback situation is more with the economic develop-
ment type of programs--those programs where you give monies to a company to
get that company to locate in the community so the company can provide low
and moderate income jobs. Then, there is a payback.
Mr, Boardman stated Coon Rapids is working that program. 7hey have put
together several industries in which those industries are providing jobs and
job opportunities to low and moderate income people. Again, it takes a lot
of work and a lot of effort to channel that money into industrial development,
Coon Rapids has an Economic Development Corporation. The monies go to the
corporation, and the corporation is a continuously working body in this area.
Mr. Minton asked what the general purpose was for CDBG funds.
Mr. Boardman stated all CDB6 funds have to be used for three purposes:
(1) principle benefit to low and moderate income--generally defined as 50%
benefit; (2j elimination of sium and blight. All of the City's redevelopment
projects fall within this category; (3) emergency.
Mr. BoarMan stated that under the regulations, HUD has increased the human
service ability from i0% (last year) to 15% so this should be looked at
for CDBG funds. He stated that under the human service grants, those funds
can be used for salaries and other capitol:costs , for human service-type
activities.
JOINT MEETING OF COMMUNITY DEVELQPMENT COMMISSION
AND NUM/IN RESOURLES CONA1ISSION, JANUARY 10 1984 PAGE 3
Mr. Boardman stated that over the last couple of years, a few of the
comnunities within the Technical Advisory Committee to Anoka County on
block grants have been pushing for off-the-top monies for human services.
county-wide, rather than having the human service organizations go from
city to city seeking funding. In other words, there would be a certain
percentage that would be taken off the top of the block grant before it
is allocated down to the comnunities. Anoka County takes monies off the
top for (1) economic development (for those things that are county-wide
for promotion of economic development); (2) administration of all block
grants; (3) housing rehab. The reason for that is because housing rehab
is a need that is county-wide.
Mr. Boardman stated about 60% of the communities were not interested in
the program. Some of the larger communities--Coon Rapids, Fridley, and
Blaine--were interested, The County does not want to do it that way,
because it does not want to get involved in ranking the human service
requests. So, again this year, it will be up to the communities to decide
if they want to allocate funds to human services similar to what was done
last year for tf�e 1983 funds.
Mr. 8oardman stated they would go through the list of po*ential'CDBG
projects item by item.
7. 15% to Human Service Grants -$19,211
Mr. Boardman felt it was very important to look at where the
human service needs are and how they can supply those needs.
2. Center City Projects
a. Signs d, 4-corner plaza area
b. Fire Hall relocation e, road improvements
c. Police parking/ptaza structure f, other general landscape/
public improvements
(underground power)
Mr. Boardman stated one of the things the City has been cormnitted
to in the past and will continue to be comnitted to is the issue
of redevelopment. Redevelopment is a very good area to put block
grants, because it does meet a need, There has been a lot of dis-
cussion in the past of why block grants are used when there are
tax increments. Tax increment monies are not necessarily all of
the sources of funds that are needed in this type of development.
The City of fridley nay have to come:ip with some dollars at some
point in time.
JOINT FIEETING OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMEMT COMMISSIOM
ANll HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION, JANUARY 10 1984 PAGE 4
Mr. Boardman stated any of the activities such as stop signs,
public improvements, that are city improvements that are within
the redevelopment district, may be a possible channeling of some
CDBG monies. One thing they have looked at is some major road
improvements as far as the Mississippi St, intersection. They
are also looking at making a commitment in the area for underground
power.
3. Multiple Housing rehab/energy
Mr. Boardman stated there is major energy legislation going on
with the State Energy Agency. If those rules or regulations go
into effect, all apartments wil7 have to meet certain standards for
energy improvements within a year's period of time. There are some
hefty penalties that go along with that. They may want to look at
the possibility of providing some rehab loan monies, but, again,
they have to show the benefit to low and moderate income and he was
not sure if that justification was there or not. •
4. Any project benefitting designated low income neighborhoods
(park project, street improvements, etc.)
Mr. Boardman stated there are three areas in the City that are
classified as low and moderate income areas. The test of the law,
50� to low and moderate income, is there, so they could do almost
any project in those three areas.
5, Architectural barrier removal (handicap trail at Nature Center)
Mr. Boardman stated one of the projects suggested last year was a
loan to churches and other organizations for improvements for handi-
cap accessibility. The response was very negative; therefore, in
order to set up that kind of program, it would take such a massive
educational process they felt it was not worthwhile to go into it,
They did, however, put monies into the 504 improvements that were
suggested by Julee Quarve-Peterson in the study she did for the City.
They are working right now on putting together a package for going
out for bids for curb cuts, improvemertts to City Ha]1, and pub7ic
facilities such as the liquor store.
Mr. Boardman stated they are looking at the possibility of a handi-
cap trai7 at Springbrook Nature Center. That would cost around
$45-50,000.
JOINT �4EETING OF COt4MUI�ITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION
AtJD HUMAN RESOURCES CO�dISSION MEETIN6, JANUARY 10, 7984 PAGE 5
6. Single family rehab
Mr. Boardman stated this is a good back-up program should another
project fa11 through for some reason,
7. Economic development - low interest loan program
Mr. Boardman stated this is sanething Coon Rapids is doing. It is
a very difficult project to accanptish.
8. Association for Retarded Citizens (ARC) - thrift shop
Mr. Boardman stated the Association for Retarded Litizens is looking
at the possibility of some start-up monies to open a thrift shop,
which would provide employment for retarded citizens and elderly
citizens to work. repair, and setl items that are donated, similar
to Good Wi71. He thought it was a very exciting program, Whether
it should go as a program by itself or whether it should be some-
thing under human service grants was something that needed to be
discussed. ..
9. Senior housing roll-over study
Mr. Boardman stated one of the problems some of the comnunities
have had and what Fridley is also starting to have is what to do
with "empty nesters". One of the ways of handling it is through
"roll-over housing". The roll-over housing is essentially finding
a developer who will build a condo/townhouse development-type
project and will byy the elderly person's single family home> and
will put that money in as equity into the units of condo/townhouse.
The developer that sells the single family to first-time home
buyers who are eligible for a low-interest mort9age. The City,
through the Housing S Redevelopment Authority, provides mortgage
take-out money at a low interest loan for 1ow and moderate income
first-time home buyers. It is a very interesting concept. Brooklyn
Park has done it successfully. However, before they would want to
get into any kind of program, they would want to do an analysis or
study on the kind of housing situation in Fridley. He thought the
study would cost aroung %5,000 to $7,000.
10. Riverview Heights acquisition
Mr. Boardman stated the City Council has allocated $115,000 of
the last CDBG monies for Riverview Heights acquisition. They are
combinjng tha2 with LAWCAfl funds. so there is a$165,000 project
and they will be acquiring three of the seven homes in that lower
area south of 79th Street. That will give the City the amount of
park and recreation land needed to satisfy the LAWCON requirment,
and it will take out the worst houses in that area a�d provide
benefit so some of the homeowners located there.
JOINT MEETING OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CQHMISSION
AMD HUMAN RESDURCES COMMI55ION MEETIN6, JANUARY 70 1984 PAGE 6
. Mr. Boardman stated the following are some suggestions for projects made
by John Fiora:
1. A soil investigation study in the North Area. One of the things
Mr, Flora is looking for with this study is to find where the
worst areas of peat are so they can analyze them as far as
drainage and develop some kind of a drainage plan.
2. Senior transportation plan. Mr. Boardman stated he thought this
might De something that would fall under human service funding.
3. Public Works emergency cortmunicatian system--a radio conmunitation
system for emergencies like tornadoes, etc. Mr. Boardman stated
he did not know if this was an eligible activity for CDBG funds.
4. Mississippi River Bank protection on RiVerview Terrace
Mr. Treuenfels stated he had always thought of ti�: Fridley Fire Ha17 as being
marveiousiy iocated right in the center of the comnunity in a nic�e modern
building. Why would they want to relocate?
Mr. Boardman stated there is a question raised by the Fire Department
about access in an out of the fire hall. W�th the Center City project,
as they increase the density in an around City Ha11, develop north of
City Hall, develop across University, and put rtare traffic into the area,
it is suggested this upsets response time for the Fire Department. One
of the things they have to look at is what is the best fire ha11 location,
qiven the circumstances that there is a comnitment to develop Center City.
One of those alternatives may be relocating the fire hall into an area
where it has better access.
Mr. Boardman stated if they get involved with some of the Center City
projects, they will probably want to do sane kind of a three-year projection
on costs.
Mr. Minton stated he thought it made sense to look at a 3-year plan.
Mr. Minton stated that, referring to Item #�8. the ARC thrift shop, he wouid
not be in favor of that for CDBG monies. What ihey are really talking about
is venture capital. The City would want them to have a business plan. If
it is a good risk for ARC, there are little or no-interest loans non-profit
groups can get for venture capitai. He stated they should let them do it on
a business basis.
Mr. Boardman stated this would not preclude ARC from applying for human
service funding.
JOINT MEETING OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION
AND HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION, JANUARY 10 1984 PAGE 7
Mr. Minton stated he thought the senior housing roll-over study sounded
interesting.
Mr. Treuenfels stated it seemed the Comnission members present at this
meeting had shown an interest in the following projects: (not prioritized)
1. 15� to human service grants
2. Center City projects
3. Housing rehab/energy (as a back-up project}
4. Single family rehab (as a back-up project)
5. Senior housing roll-over study
Mr. Treuenfels stated he would put a high priority on the 15% going for
human service grants.
Mr. Minton stated that if the senior housing roll-over study could be done
rather economically (between $5-10,000), he would also give that a high
priority, As far as the projects within the Center City, he would go with
whatever was feasible, with re5ab as back-up projects.
Mr. Treuenfels stated that as far as the underground power project in the
Center City area, maybe some of the other projects should be looked at first.
Mr. Boardman stated there has to be some flexibility as far as what projects
are available at the time. One of the things they definitety want to start
looking at, if they are going to start putting some money into the Center
City project, is to put together some type of 3-year program.
Mr, Minton stated if they are going to use block grant funds in the Center
City Qroject, he would like to see the maximum creative usage of the tax
increment financing and maximum leverage on the part of the block grant funds.
Mr. Boardman agreed. He stated they should look at all the items 7isted
under the Center City project as 3-year programs.
ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting adjourned informally at 9:15 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
ynn a a
Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
I�OUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
MEETING
JANUARY 12, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Vice-Chairperson Prieditis called the January 12, 1984, Charter Commission
meeting to order at 7:42 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Elmars Prieditis, Carolyn Svendsen, Duane Prairie,
Walter Rasmussen
Members Absent: Larry Commers
Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Pla�ner
5id Inman, Finance Director
Dave Newman, City Attorney
Jerry Paschke, 7270 University Ave. N.E.
Mark Haggerty
Wally Rasmussen, 7806 Alden Way
APPROVAL OF NOVEM6ER 10, 1983 HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR, RAS1dDSSEN� SECOt7DED BY DfR, PRAZRIE, TO APPROVE THE NOV. 10� 2983,
XOUSING 6 REDEVELOPP�NT AUTHORITY MINUTES.
Mr. Prieditis made the following change to paragraph 2, page 5: "Mr. Prieditis
stated the hardware building could even become a part of a future redevelopment,
but that is something that is difficult to predict at this time."
UPO.Y A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� VICE—CXAIRPERSON PRIEDITIS DECLARED THE
MINUTES RPPROVED AS AMENDED.
1. COPJSIDERATION OF AMEN�MENT BY ENLARGEMENT OF REDEVELOPt1ENT PROJECT #1:
Mr, Boardman stated that at the suggestion of the City Council, Staff looked
at the possibility of adding all the commercial property already vacant north
of Rice Creek to Redevelopment Project Area �1. They did this and felt there
was good reason to add that property and are making that proposal to the HRA.
Mr, Prieditis asked P1r, Boardman to outline the benefits for adding this
property into Redevelopment Project Area #1.
Mr. Boardman stated the primary purpose for including this is with the
potential of IDB's going out. The reserve.bond fund is one of their biggest
resources at this point in time to promote development. The only way they
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HOUSING & RE�EYELOPMENT AUTHORI7Y MEETING, JANUARY 12, 1984 PAGE 2
can use reserve bond monies is if any property is located in a redevelopment
project area. It does not necessitate including that property in the tax
increment to use the funds for projects, but as long as it is in the project
area. they can use the reserve bond fund.
It is also important to note that this property is all presently vacant
property of which some has need for soil correction. This property has been
vecant through the growth years of the City and would probably not develop
without some financial aid being sought. By including this property into
the redeveiopment plan, it wi11 afford maximum opportunity, consistent with
the sound needs of the community as a who7e. for development through private
investment. It also conforms to the general plan of the City for its develop-
ment.
MOTION BY MR. RASMUSSEN, SECONDED BY MR. PRAZRIE, TO APPROVE RESOLUTION
NO. HRA IB-19B3, °A RESOLUTION AMENDING REDEYETAPMENT PRQ7ECT N0. I RND THE
REDEVELOPMENT PLAN RELASING THERETO PURSUANT TO TNE PROVISIONS OF MINNESOTA
STATUTES, SECTIONS 462.412 TO 962.726, INCLUSIVE".
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON PRZEDITIS DECLARED TXE
MOTTON CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY.
2. CONSIDERA7ION OF TAX It�CREMENT #'S WITHIN DEVEIOPMENT PROJECT N0. 1
Mr. Boardman stated this is strictly one lot within tfiat overall package
in which they do have a proposed development. Mr. Jerry Paschke was pro-
posing a 26,000 sq. ft. corrmiercial facility on Lot 1, Block 2. As part
of the package, they have worked with Mr. Paschke in putting together some
assistance. This assistance is going to be similar to what was worked out
with �ohnson Printing & Packaging, in which the HRA will provide $30.000
write-down on the 1and, and in return, Mr. Paschke will develop the property.
They use the assistance in the write-down to help cover their cost for soil
correction. The re is about $60,000 worth of soil correction needed on that site.
This value was the result of the negotiation between the HRA, Mr. Paschke>
and the property owner. The soil correction costs were determined by soil
borings and actual bids on the correction.
The actual taxes that wou]d be generated would be approximately $45,000 per
year. Other costs laid out in the tax increment plan include $30>000 in
admi�istrative cost along with $310,000 in reserve increments for fundi�g
the reserve system. The tax increment plan wi11 give the HRA maximum flexibili
in the deter.nination of all project costs.
MOTIQN BY lLS. SYENLLSEN� SECCWDED BY M2, PRAIRZE, TD APPROVE RESOLUTZON
NO. NRA 19-I983. A RESCILUTSON ESTABLISXING TAX INCREMENT DISTRZCT NO. 5
NSTHiN REDEVEIApMEN2 PROJELT NO. I RND APPROVZNG AND ADOPTING A PROP0.SED
TJU( INCREMENT FZNANCING PLAtJ THEREOF" .
UPAV A VCJICE VtJTE� ALL VOTING AYE� YZCE-CHAIRPERSON PRIEDITIS DECLARED THE
MOTSCYJ CARRIED UNAN711L1f7SLY.,
ING
UARY
3. PUDLIC HEARING ON SALE OF PROPERTY AT 1820 UNIVERSITY AVENUE N.E.:
Mr. Boardman stated that because state 1aw requires a public hearing on
the disposal of HR,4 property and the contract documents between Mr. Paschke
and the HRA call for such a sale, they have called for a public hearing at
this meeting. In this way, it can be considered with the "Contract for
Private Development" with �•ir, Paschke on this site.
Yice-Chairperson Prieditis declared the public hearing open at 7:59 p.m.
Mr. Boardman stated this would be a sale of property to Mr. Paschke.
The HRA would be acquiring the property from Dave Harris and Bob Schroer.
The purpose of the sale is to develop a 26,000 commercial facility,
Mr. Boardman stated if there were any comments or questions from people in
the audience, they would hear them at this time.
Mr. Prieditis asked Mr. Paschke to explain his proposal.
Mr. Paschke stated he will be building a building identical to the two
buildings he has built just to the north on 79th. The primary use of the
building will be commercial. The value of the structure, land and improve-
ments will be approximately a1,000,000.
Ms. Svendsen asked if there would be any other costs other than the $3�,000.
Mr, Boardman stated the $30,000 is the cost that is laid out in the tax
increment plan with reserve increments of approx. 5310 with an administrative
cost of about �30,000, Those are the HRA's actual costs on the project.
Ms. Svendsen asked Mr, Boar�nan if he had included any information about
the soil correction or the condition of the soil. Sometimes in the past,
the HRA has had documents from the City regarding soil conditions, and she
had not seen any of that kind of information on this project.
Mr. Boardman stated he did not include the actual bids. He stated the City
had been given some bids on the excavation of the soil; then the cost was
negotiated between the City, the existing property owner, Mr. Paschke,
and Mr. Jim Benson, where each of the people took a share of the cost to
come up with the cost of soil correction.
Mr. Prieditis asked what assurances does the HRA have to ensure the
correction of the soil?
Mr. Boardman stated the developer cannot get a building permit until they
show the soil borings, compaction tests, etc. In due process, the building
inspectors review all these things.
Mr. Paschke stated soil borings have been done. There were about 16 borings,
and the City does have those borings and all the bids. The bids were all
submitted to the City by Dave Harris and Bob Schroer. 7he borings were done
by Suburban Engineering.
HOUSING 6 REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, JANUARY 12L1984 PAGE 4
Mr. Prairie staLed it mighY be helpful for the HRA to see some of those
documents.
Mr. �ardman stated he would get copies of the bids for the HRA.
Yice-Chairperson Prieditis declared the public hearing closed at 8:10 p.m.
4. CONSIDERATION OF LONTRACT FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN HR,4 AND PACO INC.:
Mr. Boardman stated that at this meeting the HRA members had received the
modified copy of the "Contract.for Private Qevelopment". Jim 0'Meara and
Mr. Paschke's attorney, Mr. Bob Lukes, went over these documents and agreed
to what was in the Cocuments. The modifications were made and sent out that
morning. He stated he had underlined those changes from the previous docu-
ments. He also stated the HRA Attorney felt this gives the HRA adequate
protection and the HRA can enter into those contract documents.
MOTZON BY MR. RASMUSSEN� SEGUNDED HY l�i. PRAZRZE� TO APPld�VE RESOLUTIQN
N0. HRA 20-1983�"A RESOLUTICW APPROVING AND AIll80RIZING TXE E�CUTSON OF
A CONTRACT FdR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT WZTH PAL10 INC,".
UPQH R VOSCE VOTE� ALL 4DTZNG AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSQY PRZEDITIS DECLARED TXE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
5. DISCUSSION ON HARDWARE BUILDING:
Mr. Soardman stated John Gargaro had contacted him after the Nov, 22
Lions Club meeting indicating that the Lions were no longer interested in
the hardware building.
Mr. Boardman stated he had had several discussions w�th Mr. Inman and
Mr. Qureshi� and the Liquor Store Manager, and they have indicated an interest
in renting the hardware building. He stated Mr, Inman would explain their
proposa].
Mr. Inman stated one of his otMer respensibi�ities in the City is for the
operation of the liquor store. He stated the. liquor store has maintained
a substantial marketing advantage over the years because of the natural
boundaries like the river, 35W, and I-694. With the droppage of walk-in
traffic at Holly Center, they have experienced the same profit margin but
a reduction in volume, so they are still in a positive position.
Mr, Inman stated Staff has recently discovered that some of the neighboring
cormunities will soon be building liquor warehouse operations. Their studies
indicate that while people may not be willing to drive downtown to Surdycks
to get lower prices, they may be willing to go to Spring Lake Park or Blaine.
So. fridiey's attempt here is to be the first and open a liquer warehouse
operation in the hardware building.
Mr. Inman stated the experiment would be in terms of at least a 3-year
comnitment. They have done some cost structures. There have to be some
decisions on the carpeting and ceiling. and they may want to improve the
road in front.
NOUSING & REDEYEIOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES, January 12, 1984 PAGE 5
Mr. Inman stated that right now they have a lease situation in Holly. Their
early projections say that depending on their volumes, they will probably
do as good in the hardware building as they do in Holly, because of the
heavy expenditures of maintaining both facilities. They might attempt to
negotiate with Mr. Levy and try to help find somebody else to rent the saace
in Holly.
Mr. Prairie asked how the other tenants in Holly felt about this possible
move.
Mr. Inman stated they have not officially informed the other tenants; however,
the other tenants are aware of the fact that every business in that strip is
losing rtroney at the current time.
Mr. Rasmussen stated he thought having a liquor warehouse operatio� in
the hardware building was a great idea. He thought it was very feasible
if a reasonable price can be negotiated.
MOTIQV BY MR. RASMUSSEN� SECONDED BY FII2. PRAIRIE� TNDICATZNG TXAT THE HRA
IS ZNTERESTED IN EXPIARING TXE P0.SSIBILZTY OF A LZQUOR WRREHOUSE FACZLSTY
IN TNE HARD47ARE BUILDZNG AND AUTHO*22ZES THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTbR TO PRESENT
FURTHER SNFORMATION CYJ TNIS AT A LATER MEETING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHRZRpERSON PRIEDITZS DECLARED TXE
MOTION CARRSED UNANIMOUSLY,
Mr. Prairie stated he thought they were all in�erested in putting that
building to use, but his only concern was how this might affect the tenants
in Nolly Center,
6. CONSIDERATION
I ENTER INTO A LISTi
Mr. Boardman stated he had attached listing agreements submitted by Mr.
Messler. Mr. Messler was one of the three realtors he contacted for the
leasing for the HRA. The other two were not interested in listing the
properties. He stated he was not tooking for the authorization to enter
into any of these documents, but he was looking for the authorization to move
ahead and to try to negotiate an agreeme�t with a leasing agent within the
approximate guidelines of the enclosed documents.
Mr. Boardman stated he has gotten a response back from another agent that
there is no reason the HRA should have to enter into an exclusive listing
a9reement. so he wanted to check into that. He would not enter into an
exclusive if he did not have to.
Mr. Boardman stated the reason Mr, Messler is the only one interested is
because he is the leasing agent for Dr. Suh across University, He knows the
area and may have the possibility of putting people in. Mr. Messler said
it is going to be extremely difficult and the only way he will do it is
with a guaranteed price and not as a percentage of the lease. Mr. Messler
would also request that the HRA be flexible with the dollar amount that he
will be able to get for the property.
HOUSING & REOEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, JANUARY 12, 1984 PAGE 6
Mr. Boardman stated they have been negotiating and trying to get the property
north of City Hall into a package, and they would not want to restrict them-
selves to more than a one year lease,so it is going to 6e very difficult.
MOI'IQV BY HS, SVENDSEN� SECQYDED BY MR. RASMUSSEN� 2� AUTXORIZE TXE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTI�R T1J CONTINUE TO TRY Tp NECOTZATE AN AGREEMENT WITH A LEASING AGENS
FGR TXE LZFESTYLE AND MAASEN BUILDINGS.
1JPON A VOICE [�OTE� ALL YOTING AYE� VICE-CXAIRPERSON PRIEDITIS DECZARED TXE
MOTION CARRSED UNANIMOUSLY,
7. CO��SIDERATION OF APPROVAL Of PAYMEt1T OF THE SETTLEMENT TO DR. RYAN'S
Mr. Boardman stated Mr. Ryan has agreed to accept the Commissioner's Award.
The Comnissioner's Award aas E177.30Q. The previ�us payment to Mr, i�yan
was 5131.117� leaving a balance of a4D,183. He stated they plan to close
on Monday, Jan, 16, and the actual approved interest `or that period of
time will be 51.182. He stated that under Minnesota State Law, they are
required to pay interest at a rate of 6%. He stated he is asking for
authorizatfon from the HRA to pay Mr. Ryan the final payment per Commissioner's
Award of a40,183 plus E1.182 interest.
M�'IQ'J BY HR. PRAIRIE� SECONDED BY XR. RASM.(ISSEN� TO AUTXORIZE THE FINAL
PAS',`�NT PER CON.MISSZONER'S AWARD OF $40�183 PLUS $1�Z82 ZN ZNTEREST� TOTALLSNG
$41,365, TO DR. RYAN'S AUTOMOTIVE CLINIC.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CXAIRPERSON PRIEDITZS DECLARED TNE
170TION CARRZED UNANSHOUSLY.
8. CONSIDERNTION Of APPROVAL OF PAYMENT TO DR. RYAN'S AUTOMOTIVE CLIN1
Mr. Boardman stated that also under Minnesota State Law, they are required
to pay relocation on any activity. 7hey have finally gotten all the informa-
tion on the reiocation for Mr. Ryan, and Von Klug 3 Associates are recommend-
ing a payment of �10,000 to Mr, Ryan for relocation as allowed to him under
state law.
MDTZOY BY MR. RASMUSSEN� SECONDED BY HS. SVENASEN� TO AUTXORIZE A PAYMENT OF
510�000 TO DR. RYAN'S AUTOMOTSVE CLSNZC FOR RELOCATIQN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTTNG AYE� VICE-CXRIRPERSON PRZEDITZS DECLARED TXE
MOTION CARRZED UNANINOUSLY.
9, CO��SIDERATION OF APPROUAL Of FINAL PAYMENT TO VON KLUG & A
iiS cTuccc ❑n nrnrrn�7 crov rrc.
Mr. Boardman stated he needed authorization for the final payment of 53,500
to Yon Klug S Assoc. for their relocation services.
XOTSON BY HR. RASMVSS£N� SEL1?NDED BY lIIt. pRA7RZE� TO AUTXORIZE TBE FINAL PAY-
XENT OF 53,500 TD YON XLUG i ASSOC, f1�R RELOCATION SERVICES IN THE CENTER
CS2Y PROJECT.
UP�N E VOZCE VOTE, ALL V027NC AYE� VIC�-CAAZRPERSON PRIEDZTIS DECLARED THE
MOTIA9 CARRIED LCVANL70QSLY.
& REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, JANUARY 12. 1984 PAGE 7
1�. CONSIDER,4TION OF APPROVAL OF 1984 MEETItdG SCHEDULE:
Mr, Boardman stated the Commission members had received a 1984 meeting
schedule.
Mr. Rasmussen expressed his concern of the length of ineeting time. Was
tfiere some way of limiting the length of ineetings?
Mr. Prieditis suggested the meetings start at 7:00 p.m. instead of 7:30 p.m,
and that they limit the meeting length to not later than 9:30-10:00 p.m.
The Commissioners were in agreenent with the meeting dates on the third
Thursday of each month, but that the meeting time be changed to 7:00 p.m,
and the meetings limited to 9:30-10:00 p.m.
Pir. Prieditis asked that Mr. Boardman contact Mr. Commers to make sure this
change was agreeable with him,
11. DISCUSSION OF CHECK REGISTERS:
Pts. Svendsen suggested that a little more i�formation be included in the
agenda explaining some of the vague items in the check registers. This
would save the Comnissioners some time in their discussion.
MOTION BY MP„ pRAIRIE� SECONDED BY 1�L4, RA.SMUSSEN� TO APPROVE THL CHECK
REGZSTER DRTED I2f7j83 TOTALLING $9�533.62; CHECK REGISTER DATED Z2/32/83
TOTALLING $211�672; AND CX6CK REGISTER DATED 1fZ1/84 TOTALLING SI73�I96.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAZRPERSON PRIEDZTZS DECLARED THE
MOTION CRRRIED UNANIMOU5LY,
12. REIMBURSEMENT OF HRA EXPENSES:
MOTION BY MR, RASMUSSEN, SECONDED BY MR, pRAIRSE� TO AUTHORIZE A PAYMENT
OF $20,579,79 REZMBURSING THE CITY FOR RDMZNISTRASIVE COS2S.
UPON A VDICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON PRIEDITIS DECLRRED THE
MOTION C1IRRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
13. UPIAUDITED MONTHLY REP�RT AS OF 12/31/83:
Vice-Chairperson Prieditis received the unaudited monthly report as of
12/31/83 into the record. He stated the Commission members should review
it; and if they had any questions, they could discuss it at the next meeting.
ADJOUR�JMENT:
MOTION BY MR. RA61yUSSEN� SECONDED BY MR. PRASRIE, TO ADJOIIRN THE MEETING, UPON A
VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSOI! PRZEDISIS DECLARED THE JAN. 12� 1984�
HOUSSNG S REDEVELbPMENT RUTHORITY MEETING ADJOURI9ED AT 9:00 P.M.
Respectfully su itted,
�-' L�
Ly Saba, Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 17, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Gabel called the January 17, 1984, Appeals Commission meeting to
order at 7:40 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Pat Gabel, Alex Barna, Jean Gerou, Donald Betzold
Members Absent: Jim Plemel
Others Present: Darrel Clark, City of fridley
Allen E. Singer, 1450 Rice Creek Road N.E.
APPROVAL OF NOVE�dBER 29, 1983, APPEALS COhiMISSION MINUTES:
MOTIA'J BY MS. GEROU, SECANDED BY MR. BARIJA� TO APPROVE THE NOVEMBER 29, 1983,
APPEAZS COAIMZSSION MZNUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
PTER 205 OF THE fRIDLEY CITV
DUCE
. Allen Fehn, 1251, Hillwind Road N.E.,
tr�aley, MN, 55432)
The petitioner was not at the meeting.
MOTION BY MR. BETZOLD� SECONDED BY MS. GEROU� TO OPEN TXE PUBLIC HEARZNG.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HERRING OPEN.
Mr. Clark showed the Comnission merr�bers a copy of the preliminary plat with
the proposed buildings superimposed onto it. He stated a portion of the
property is turnback property from the State Highway Dept. The petitioner
is proposing to plat the whole thing and divide it into two parcels, one to
go with the existing bungalow. Mr. Clark stated the petitioner is intending
to take the turnback property, combine it with his property, and build one
6-unit townhouse-type building and one double bungalow, bring a driveway in
along the north property line, and place a storage/maintenance building in
the northeast corner.
APPEALS COHMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 17 1984 PAGE 2
Mr. Clark stated the variances needed by the petitioner are: (1) to reduce
the front yard setback by 70 ft. from 35 ft, to 25 ft.; (2) to reduce the
distance to the driveway and the north property line from 5 ft, to 1 ft.;
and (3) to eliminate the requirement of the 15 ft. planting/buffer strip
around R-3 property.
MOTION BY MR. BARNA� SECOIJDED BY MS. GEROU� TO TABLE ACTION CYJ THIS ZTEM
UNTIL THE JANURRY 3Z� 1984� APPERLS COMMISSION MEESING BECAUSE OF THE
ABSENCE OF THE PETISIONER� AND TO REQUEST STAFF TO NOTIFY TXE PETZTIONER.
UPON R VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY.
2. REQUEST FOR VARIANCE PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 205 OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE. TO
4yu, Hnu i��u ni�t l,KttK KUHU n.t. �Kequest Dy Hiian t. 5inger,
ce Creek Roa N.E., Fri ley, MN. 55432)
The petitioner, Mr. Singer, was at the meeting.
Ms. 6abe1 stated that, due to a misunderstanding of information, the public
hearing notice was printed wrong. In the third line of the hearing notice,
"60 feet" should be changed to "50 feet". She stated the pubiic hearing
notice would be republished, and action would be taken on this item at the
Appeals Comnission's January 31, 1984, meeting. She apologized for the
misinformation and thanked Mr. Singer for coming to the meeting.
ADJOURIVMENT:
MOTZON BY MR. BESZOLD� SECONDED BY MS. GEROU� T(
UOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON DECLAREJ
COIIMISSION MEETING AA70URNED AT 8:05 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
ynf a a
Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION
MEETIN6
JANUARY 17, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Svanda called the January 17, 1984, Environmental Quality
Commission meeting to order at 7:45 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Richard Svanda, Maynard Nielson, Bruce Peterson,
Tom Gronlund, Wayne Wellan
Members Absent: None
Others Present: Bill Deblon, Associate Planner
APPROVAL OF NOVEMBER 22, 1983, ENUIRONMENTAL QUALITY C014MISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. PETERSON� SECONDED BY hII2. NIELSON� TO APPROVE TXE NOV. 22� 1983�
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSZON MINUTES AS F7RITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOSE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRPERSON SVANDA DECLAP.ED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. COPJTINUED: CHAPTER 109 ENTITLED "AIR QUALITY"
Mr. Deblon stated that, as requested by the Commission, he had included
M,S. 116.07 and M.S. 471.62. He stated that, basically, what M.S. 471.62
said was that "Any city or town, however organized, may incorporate in an
ordinance by reference any statute of Minnesota, any administrative rule
or regulation of any department of the state of Minnesota affecting the
municipality or any code".
Mr. Deblon stated M.S. 116.07, subd. 2, Adoption of Standards, basically
stated that the pollution control agency shall set the standards. It also
showed how the pollution control agency goes about setting the standards,
adopting the standards, etc.
Mr. Deblon stated that, in essence, Chapter 109 says that the City has
adupted the State's air quality standards. He stated it is prudent to do
that because the standards do change periodically. At this point in time,
he would recommend the Comnission approve this ordinance and pass it on to the
Planning Comnission and City Council.
ENUIROWMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 17, 1984 PAGE 2
Mr, Svanda stated that at the Nov. 22 meeting, he had stated he would like
some feedback from the City Council on their philosophy on ordinances
regarding reference versus detail. What was the intent behind having a
simple reference for an ordinance which apparently has not been enforced
for at least four years. He still had the same question: What does this
ordinance do that is not already being done?
Mr. Deblon stated it had a tendency to put the public on notice. There is
a first and second reading, and it is published in the city newspaper putting
the public on notice that the City recognizes this law and plans to use it.
Mr, Wellan stated he could see where it would put future developers in
Fridley on notice.
Mr, Gronlund stated he had no problem with adopting the state law by
reference.
MOTION BY MR. WELLAN, SECANDSD BY MR. PETERSON, TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL1
THROUGH PLANNZNG COMMZSSION RPPROVAL OF THE NEW CHAPTER 109 ENTISLED, "AIR
QUALITY", AND � REPEAL OLD CHAPTER Z09.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE, CHAIRPERSON SVANDA DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2. C�tdTINUED: COMPOSTING DISCUSSION
Mr. Svanda stated the Comnission members met informally on Dec. 1 to work
on the flow dia9ram they had received fran Mark Huddleston of the MPCA.
Mr. Svanda stated he met with John Flora, Public Works Director, in mid-
December to try to get some perception from Mr. flora as to what he thought
of this whole process. He was not opposed to what the Comnission was doing,
but he did not volunteer any support either. P1r. Svanda stated Mr. Flora
was relying on a survey he had conducted several years ago on this issue.
Mr. Svanda stated he mentioned to Mr. Flora the thought the Commission had
of conducting a survey, a basic 3-part survey, that would be done at one
time which would (1) find out if people are interested in yard waste com-
posting; (2) if interested, how might they participate; and (3) would they
then use the composted material. He stated Mr, Flora encouraged the
Commission to do the survey but did not volunteer any city resources to do
it. Mr. Svanda stated he did not know how far the Commission had to go to
convince the City that this is something that needs to be done. He sensed
that the City, at this point in time, is rtrore comfortable with waiting until
some higher or other authority lays the requirements down on the City, which
he did not expect to occur before about this time in 1985.
Mr. Svanda stated it was up to the Cortmission as to whether they wanted to
do the survey. In order for the survey to be done well, they would either
have to mail out surveys with self-addressed stamped envelopes through the
water billing system or city newsletter or use sane group (such as the Boy
Scouts, Girl Scouts) who would go door to door.
ENUIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 17, 1984 PAGE 3
Mr. Peterson stated the Commission is going to need money, manpower, and
comnitment of equipment to actually do the project, and it doesn't seem
like that canmitment is there at this time. It might be fruitless for
them to do a survey now. If they cannot implement the project, the
Comnission might lose some of their credability. It might be better to
wait and do the survey closer to the time when it may becane mandatory.
If that is 1-2 years away, they may even have to resurvey to find out what
people are interested in,
Mr, Svanda stated that might be true, but if they do the survey now and
get sane positive results, then perhaps that might provide some basis upon
which to show the City Council that there is interest in this project. When
composting becomes mandatory, there is no longer the need for a survey.
Mr, Svanda stated there is a conference on Feb. 23-24, 1984, on "Evaluating
Waste �1anagement Options" at the Sheraton Inn-West. The cost is $35. Ne
stated he would like one or more staff people to attend this conference.
MOTION BY MR. PETLFLSON� SECONDED BY MR. GRONLUND� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY
COUNCIL� TXROUGH PLANNING COMMZSSION� TXAT ONE OR MORE PLANNFNG STAFF
PEOPLE� JOHN FLORA� AND CITY CD[INCIL MEMBERS� ESPECIALLY ED HAMERNZK WHO
WAS THE OFFICIAL LIAISON TO THE "ANOKA COUNTY SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT TASK
FORCE"� ATTEND TXE "EVRLUATING lIRSTE MANAGEMENT OPTZONS" SEMINAR AT 2HE
SHERATON INN-EIEST ON FEB. 23-24� 1984.
UPON R VOZCE VOTE, AL L VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SVANDA DECLARED THE MOTZON
CARRIED UNANIMOaSLY,
Mr. Wellan stated that somehow the Commission is going to need to get
support from the City Counci7. He suggested the Commission members miqht
want to meet with various civic groups to get sane positive or negative
feedback from them on composting. He stated that those groups that do
express an interest may wish to participate, and they should encourage them
to do so. He stated he did not think the Commission, by itself, would be
able to get this project off the ground.
Mr. Peterson stated that maybe they should contact some other municipalities
in the metropolitan area to see if there are other sample questionnaires
or surveys that have been done.
Mr. Svanda asked Staff to contact Mark Huddleston of the MPCA.
MOTION BY MR. PETERSON� SECONDED BY MR. NIELSON� TO CONTINUE DZSCUSSION ON
C01fPOSTING AT TXE NEXT MEETTNG.
UPON R VOICE C�OTE� ALL [RJTING AYE� CXRIRPERSON SVANDA DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ENVIRO�JMENTAL QUALITY COMPIISSION MEETI��6, JANUARY 17, 1984 PAGE 4
3. REVIEW OF HAZARDOUS WASTE ORDINANCE:
Mr. Svanda stated the State's Hazardous Waste rules are going to public
hearing on Feb. 6. Barring some major difficulty with adopting the rules,
these rules would probably become effective sometir�e this summer.
Mr. Svanda stated his question was why the City was looking at wanting a
set of hazardous waste rules that are different from the State's, V1e
would think the City would want to be looking at issues that are different
or more restrictive than the State's rules. For example, in the building
area, the City might want some specific building requirements in the
industrial/commercial zones.
Mr. Deblon stated the City is looking at what is under the Environmental
Quality Board's environmental review regulations that a hazardous waste
processing facility only requires an EAW. He stated he has been in�tructed
to incorporate into the City's ordinance a requirement for an environmental
impact statement. He stated that in Fridley, they have the possibility of a
pri.mary hazardous waste processing facility and have many accessory
hazardous waste processors right now. Those facilities require a special
use permit under this ordinance. He stated this is a separate ordinance,
and it should be consistent with Chapter 205, Zoning.
Mr. Svanda stated what they really need is for Staff to draft up this kind
of an ordinance and bring it back to the Comnission. He would assume it
would contain some reference to the state rules, perhaps a base line, and
incorporate the special considerations Mr. Deblon has mentioned. He stated
there is some value in addressing those kinds of things.
Mr. Wellan agreed. I�e su9gested that maybe someone from the State should
review the drafted ordinance to see if it is consistent with the State's
rules.
Mr. Deblon stated he would prepare a revised ordinance for the next meeting.
MOTIO.N BY MR. PETERSON� SECONDED BY MR, WELLAN� TO RECOMMEND THRT STRFF
ATTEND AT LEAST PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ON FEB, 6� 1984� FOR TXE STATE�S
PROPOSED HRZARIaOUS WASTE RULES.
Mr. Deblon stated that was an excellent idea and would attend.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CIIAIP.PERSON SVANDA DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Peterson asked if there was any kind of model ordinance on hazardous
waste to use as a guide.
Mr. Deblon stated he would check into that. He stated Metropolitan
Council may have something.
Mr. Svanda suggested �4r. Deblon get the County's ordinances from
Bob Hutchison,
ENVIROtJMENTAL QUALITY COMh1ISSI0N MEETIN6, JANUARY 17, 1984 PAGE 5
MO_TION BY MR. NIEISON� SECONDED BY MR. GRONLUNC� TO CONTINUE DISCUSSZON ON
THE HAZARDOUS WASTE ORDZNANCE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING WXEN STAFF WILL HAVE
A REVISED DRAFT ORDINANCE.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRPERSON SVANDA DECLARED TIIE MOTIO7J
CARRIED UNRNIMDUSLY.
OTHER BUSI��ESS:
Mr. Deblon stated Hennepin County has proposed a garbage burning site on
the west bank of the Mississippi River across from the Riverside N5P plant.
A councilman from N.E. Minneapolis has opposed this burning site. He stated
it was suggested by a Fridley councilman to know the rationale of why the
representative of the P�.E. District was opposing this proposal and if there
were any adverse impacts on Fridley.
Mr. Deblon stated he has checked into this. He talked to a staff person
and a Park Board member. since there are parks in that area. The first
concern the councilman had expressed was the serious harm caused by the air
pollution. The other concerns were truck traffic, smell of the garbage in
case of breakdown, water pollution, vermin, river use, visual and parks.
Since the river is part of the Governor's Mississippi River Critical Area,
Fridley (which is part of it) has adopted special overlay district regulations
to protect the river and its adjacent lands. South of 694 there are more
lenient restrictions. He stated that fran a planning standpoint, he felt
the visual and the use of the river and the parks were the biggest concerns.
Mr. Deblon stated the
tion opposing such
Fridley. He stated
the City Cauncil's
Qua7ity Comnission
this resolution at
is invited to give
City Council has directed Staff to prepare a resolu-
a facility because of the possible adverse affect on
he will be preparing that resolution. He stated it was
and Administration's directive to inform the Environmental
that there was going to be a possible consideration of
the Jan. 23, 1984, City Council meeting. The Commission
their input.
Mr. Svanda stated that as far as the
air quality issues from an expression
from the air quality vein, but from t
from this type of facility. If not
some affects on the City. Staff coul
to maintaining the quality of the riv
place which degrade it, not just from
an aesthetic standpoint also.
ADJOURNMENT:
resolution, Staff could address the
of concern,not over an odor emission
he toxic components that are ernitted
adequately controlled, it could have
d also address the concern with regard
er and not allowing activities to take
a water quality standpoint, but from
Chairperson Svanda declared the January 17, 1984, Environmental Quality Commission
meeting adjourned at 9:45 p.m.
Respectfully su itted,
� <--ly _
Lyn e Saba
Recording S�cretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
P1EETING -
JANUARY 23, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Kondrick called the January 23, 1984, Parks & Recreation Commission
meeting to order at 7:35 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Menbers Present: Dave Kondrick, Mary Schreiner, Jan Seeger, Dick Young,
Dan Allen
Members Absent: None
Others Present: Charles Boudreau, Parks & Recreation Director
Jack Kirk, Recreation Supervisor
Mike Pawlyshyn, HAF
Wayne Brandt, Tiger Hockey Booster Club
APPROVAL OF NOVEMBER 21 1983, PARKS & RECREATIOF� COMMISSION MINUTES:
MO.^ION $Y MR. YOUNG� SECOl7DED BI' MS. SEEGER� TO APPROVE THE NOV. 21� 1983� PARXS
6 RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES RS I•IRZTTEN,
UPON A[�OICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRZCK DECLARED THE MOT2017
CARRSED UNANIMOUSLY,
APPROVAL OF JANUARY 9, 1984, SPECIAL PARKS & RECREATIOP� COP9f•tIS5I0N MIPJUTES:
Mr. Young stated that on page 1, Item 2, paragraph 3, "June" should be changed
to "May".
MO^ION BY 14R. YOUNG� SECOPIDED BY MR. ALLEN� � AppROVE TNE JAN. 9� 1984� :�PECZAL
PAkKS 6 RECREATION COMMISSION MEETZNG MINUTES AS AMENDED.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING RYE� CXRIRPEP.SOt] KONDA.ICK DECLAP,ED THE MOTZO"7
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
APPROVAL OF A6ENDA:
Dr. Boudreau stated he would like to add the following items to the agenda:
Softball Tournament Requests - Item (b) under "Director's Report"
Redevelopment of North End of Comnons Park - Item (a}under "Other Business"
PARKS & RECREATION COhA1I5SI0N MEETING JANUARY 23 1984 PAGE 2
Mr. Kondrick stated that since Mr. Pawlyshyn and Mr. Brandt were at the meeting,
they should put "HAF Support" and "Tiger Hockey Booster Club" as Items 1 and 2
on the agenda.
MOTION BY MS.SCNREINER� SECONDED BY MS, SEEGER� TO APPROVE TIIS AGENDA RS
AMENDEA.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRPERSON KONDRZCK DECLAPED TNE MOTZON
CARRZED UNRNIMOUSLY,
1. POLICY - HOCY.EY ASSOCIATIOP� OF FRIDLEY SUPPORT (Mr. Mike Pawlyshyn)
Mr. Pawlyshyn stated the formal written request the Comnission had requested
would be coming at a later date. Because of the dance they have coming up
on Feb. 3, they have not had the time to put the request together,
Mr, Kirk stated tfiat tfiis year, the City put $2,369 toward the HAF (officials -
$1,199, ice time for broomball -$390, ice time for hockey - y780). The
HAF paid back $802 ($2/person), so the net amount the City paid the HAF was
$1,567.
Mr. Pawlyshyn stated the reason the HAF is asking for more support is
because they are having financial problems. In order to keep their program
going, they are going to need assistance from the City. Right now, through
fundraisers and sponsors, tf�ey are giving the boys a total of about 24 hrs.
of indoor ice time. They feel tF�at in order to make this program work,
they are going to need to give the boys an additional 10 hrs. of ice, for a
total of 34 hrs. of indoor ice.
Ms. Schreiner stated the HAF was one of the 9roups asked if they were
interested in running the concession stand at the new community park. What
was their decision?
Mr. Pawlyshyn stated the HAF discussed this and felt that from a liability
standpoint where they sold liquor, they did not want to get involved in some-
thing they had no control over. The second concern was insurance on the
building. He stated the Comnissioners also had to understand that the NAF
was made up of all volunteers, and it is getting harder and harder to get
those volunteers.
Ms. Schreiner asked about the dance scheduled for Feb. 3.
Mr. Pawlyshyn stated the dance is a yearly fundraiser. Last year they raised
$1,200. They hope to do as well this year.
Mr. Pawlyshyn stated one of the biggest factors is the increased cost in
ice time every year. The less children they have, the more it costs per
child to buy the ice. He stated it would be a shame for Fridley to be the
only comnunity in the area that did not have a house hockey program. The
HAF is not asking for any help for the traveling teams. The traveling teams
pay their own ice assessments.
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 23, 1934 PAGE 3
Mr. Pawlyshyn stated the cost of hockey is tremendous. Som� people in the
lower income brackets just cannot afford to put their children through the
hockey program. They do say in the HAF bylaws that any child who wants to
go out for traveling and his parents cannot afford it, the parents can come
before the Board, state tfieir financial situation, and the child will play.
Mr. Pawlyshyn stated for the last couple of years the HAf has sponsored a
Drug Awareness Night. They work tfirough the School Board, It has been
very successful. He stated the NAF tries to 9ive kids a positive attitude
on life, sportsmanship, and to teach them to work as a team.
Mr. Young stated that Mr. Pawlyshyn had made the statement that it would be
a shame if Fridley was tfie only community that did not have a house leaguP.
How did the other house leagues exist in other communities in the northern
suburbs where they are getting no support from the cities?
Mr. Pawlyshyn stated that Roseville's and Brooklyn Park's house leagues
play indoors. The hockey associations run the programs, but they also get
a discount of 25q for indoor ice.
Mr, Kirk stated he was told when he called that Qrooklyn Park did not receive
a discount. He stated fie could recheck that information.
Mr. Kirk stated he believed the other communities have a substantially
higher registration fee than Fridley does.
Mr, pawlyshyn stated the registration fee for hockey is $20 and it is $15
for broomball.
Mr, Allen asked how much indoor ice cost at various arenas.
Mr, Pawlyshyn stated the indoor ice is $70/hr, at Columbia Arena, $80/hr.
at Augsburg, and $75/hr, at �dilliams Arena. They can only get a total of
70 hrs. at Columbia Arena.
Mr, Kondrick asked what the registration dollars are used for,
Mr. Pawlyshyn stated that in the beginning of the year before anything
really starts, they give each child 3-4 hrs, of indoor ice time. The HAF
buys the goalee pads, goalee sticks, gloves, all the pucks, the jerseys,
and the mouthguards. The maintenance on the pads is about $12-1400/yr.
For the girls' broomball, they buy the rubberized special brooms for the
playoffs.
Ms. Seeger asked if the HAF had ever considered collecting the jerseys at
the end of the year and reusing them.
Mr. Pawlyshyn stated he did not think that has ever been done. The jerseys
are usually pretty worn out by the end of the season.
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSIOP� MEETING JANUARY 23 1984 PAGE 4
Ms. Seeger stated her son's traveling team decided to spend a little more
for their jerseys and reuse them one year. They used old shirts for practice,
kept the team jerseys for just games, and they were able to reuse them.
Mr. Young stated he would like to see an actual budget to see what dollars
come in and where those dollars go.
Mr, Pawlyshyn stated the total hockey program costs about $50,000.
Dr, Boudreau stated he thought the Commission was interested only in the
house league costs. This year they ha�+e two PeeWee teams, two Squirt teams,
and one Pony team. Did they even have a house league this year?
Mr. Pawlyshyn stated they really did not have a house league this year.
They have been scrimmaging with Roseville basically. They tried to get into
the Blaine Association, but that association does not want anymore communities.
The year before they were with Columbia Heights, but Columbia Heights did
not feel just playing with fridley was enough, so Columbia Heights is now
with three other communities. Fridley cannot join because five communities
are too many, They could not get in with Moundsview, because Moundsview is
with New Brighton and St. Anthony, and they do not want anymore.
Dr. Boudreau stated that, traditionally, the City has sponsored ice time for
the house league play-offs. This year if there was no league, there are no
play-offs, and there will be no referee expenses. The City has always given
12 hrs., and the HAF is 10 additional hours. If there is no house league,
why do they need 22 hrs. of ice time?
Mr, Pawlyshyn stated there is no league this year, but there may be a league
next year. He stated most of the other communities play their games indoors.
Dr. Boudreau stated the City has ta7ked to Anoka County in the past about
the Fridley hockey program getting more ice time at Columbia Arena, and they
have received a written response showing the order of priority. He felt if
something was going to be done to get more ice time for the hockey program,
that request is going to have to come fran the HAF.
Mr. Pawlyshyn stated he has made ca71s and has not gotten anywhere. He felt
it had to come from city officials--some pressure put on by City Council
members.
Mr. Young stated that ever since he has lived in Fridley, there have been
two sports associations--the FYSA and HAF. Most other communities have one
sports association to run all the programs. Why doesn't this exist in
Fridley?
Mr. Brandt stated the FYSA did not want to get involved with the large ice
budget the HAF has every year. The overall expense of running the traveling
team and house program is an astronomical amount, and it is getting harder
every year to get sponsors to donate money.
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 23 1984 PAGE 5
Mr. Brandt stated Mr. Pawlyshyn is just trying to keep the_program going so
• they can get more indoor ice time for the kids. The outdoor ice time is
so limited because of the short season, and that also depends on the weather.
. I� order to keep the program going, the kids need skating time. He stated
the City is here to help programs and sponsor programs. The HAF is made
up of volunteers who spend many, many hours running the program.
Mr. Kondrick stated he hoped Mr. Pawlyshyn understood the Commission's
position. The Commission needs to have more information in order to make
a decision. He would like Mr. Pawlyshyn to write a letter putting down his
thoughts and needs for the HAF. The Comnission would also like to know what
other sources give money to the NAF, where that money goes, and what type
of fundraisers are held (for house 7eague and broomball).
Ms. Seeger asked if the Anoka County cortmunities were all allotted equal ice
time at Columbia Arena.
Mr. Pawlyshyn stated that was correct. One thing they feel is grossly unfair
is that Blaine and Anoka had $270,000 of county monies put into buitding
their two ice arenas, yet both Blaine and Anoka still have the same amount
of ice time at Columbia Arena as Fridley does. Fridley cannot get any ice
time at Blaine's ice arena, because the only ice time they will give is
6efore 4:D0 p.m, and after 10:00 p.m.
Mr. Young stated that with the number of students in the communities dropping,
had any thought been given to possibly eventually having a Columbia Heights/
Fridley hockey association like Blaine/Spring Lake Park?
Mr. Pawlyshyn stated one thing they are going to b2 discussing with their
Soard of Directors is a merger between Fridley and Columbia Heights.
Mr. Brandt stated th� Columbia Heights approached Fridley two years ago
about merging. After the Fridley went over their general po]icy and philo-
sophy, they did not hear from Columbia Heights again. He stated one of the
big things is that in the fridley HAF, every child skates equal by the end
of the season, and not all comnunities like that kind of policy.
Mr. Kondrick again requested that Mr. Pawlyshyn prepare a written request
to the Comnission, and they will 6e discussing this again at their Feb. 13
meeting. He thanked Mr. Pawlyshyn for coming to the meeting.
2. TIGER H�CKEY BOOSTER CLUB (Mr. Wayne Brandt)
Mr. Brandt referred to a statement made by Mr. Young in the Nov. 21, 1983,
Commission minutes, page 5, paragraph 3, in which Mr. Young stated: "that
of the four non-profit groups that have run tournaments in Fridley in the
past (Jaycees, Fridley Fire Dept., Fridley Covenant Church, and the Fridley
Tiger Hockey Booster Club), two of these groups return money to the community
in some way and two do not return any money to the comnunity. He stated that
in some ways, he had a problem considering the two latter groups as non-
profit."
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSIDN MEETING, JANUARY 23 1984 PAGE 6
Mr. Brandt asked Mr, Young what he considered the high school if it was not
part of the community. -
Mr. Young stated the high school is a part of this community, yet this
_ community is represented by four separate school districts. When he said
"returning things to the community", it could be looked at from different
viewpoints. The Fridley Firemen are volunteers and get paid a nominal
amount, but they are putting their lives on the line 24 hrs./day 365 days/
year for the community. The Jaycees return a lot of financial things back
the the Parks & Recreation Dept., Community Education,or other organizations
within the community, Wfien the Tiger Hockey Booster Clu6 runs a tournament,
they are benefitting solely one group of people and that is the kids who
play hockey, not the whole student body of the high school. However, he
could understand Mr. Brandt's viewpoint, that they are returning something
to the community in a way if they are developing young men through leader-
ship, teamwork, etc., but yet it does not benefit the whole community.
Mr, Brandt stated he considered the high school a hig part of this comnunity,
Every time the boys play hockey, they are representing Fridley and the whole
hi9fi school student body. It is strictly all volunteers who run the tourna-
ment and all that money is turned over to the school for those boys.
Mr. Brandt stated lie also wanted to address the proposed Cort�nunity Park
policy. If the City is going to start charging them $600 for the use of
the park for a tournament, plus $150 damage deposit, it is not even worth
their running a tournament. They are very lucky to earn $1,300, and if they
have to give back $600+ to the City, it is not worth it. He stated they need
at least $2,200 each year, He stated the Uarsity gets one hour of ice time,
and the �r. Varsity gets one hour, and they have to compete with other
communities that are getting 1z hours of ice time.
Mr. Young stated that when the Jaycees held tournaments in the past, they
had to pay other expenses such as trash pick-up, satellite rental, and when
estimating some of these costs, it came pretty close to the $600. The $600
fee will now include all those expenses. This also includes the cost to the
City for the lighting of the fields. It is going to cost about $15-20/hr,
just to light the fields.
Mr. Kirk stated there was a significant cost to the City when groups were
running tournaments, a lot of man hours that were never charged to groups
before. These things were taken into consideration when they were workinq
on the policy, It is not the City's intention to make money, but just to
cover all the City's expenses.
Dr. Boudreau stated one way for the groups to defray the $600 tournament
fee was to raise the entry fee by $20/team. That is only about $1/person.
Mr. Young stated another choice would be to charge admission to the games
dt $1/person/day. The community park complex is set up in such a way that
it would be easy to do that.
Mr. Kondrick thanked P4r. Brandt for coming to the meeting.
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 23 1984 PAGE 7
3. DIRECTOR'S REPORT: - �
a. Rice Creek School
Dr. Boudreau stated Rice Creek School has been sold to Brickner
Builders. Mr. Bricker is submitting a plan to the City Council
for that property. The City Counci7 will be working with
Mr. Brickner so that sane park area is maintained within that
development.
Dr. Boudreau stated he would keep the Commission informed,
b. Two Softball Tournament Requests
Dr. Boudreau stated the City has already received two softball
tournament requests--one from the Deaf Association and one from
the Suburban Girls Softball League (a fast-pitch league of the
metropolitan area). He just wanted to make the Commission aware
of these two requests.
4. NEW BUSINESS:
a. 1984 Soft6a11 Registration Fees
Mr. Kirk stated he would like approval of the 1984 softball registra-
tion fees. He stated the fees have gone up about 10%.
Dr, Boudreau stated Mr, Kirk will have a Managers' Manual he will be
giving out at the Managers' meeting on March 13. They will get copies
of the manual to the Cortmissioners as it will answer any questions the
Commission might have about eligibility, etc.
MOTION BY M.2, YOUNG, SECONDED BY l�II2, ALLEN� TO APPROS'E THE I984
SOFTBALL REGISTRATION FEES AS PRESENTED.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHRIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
5. OLD BUSINE55:
a. Policy - Ice Locations (Dick Young)
Dr. Boudreau stated this has been discussed at the last 2-3 meetings.
The Policy on Ice Locations as amended was retyped and was included
in the Comnission's agenda packet.
MOTION BY MR. YOUNG� SECONDED BY MS. SCHREINEP.� 21� RECOMMEND TO CI
COUNCIL THE APPROVAL OF .HE POLICY ON ICE LOCATZONS.IN THE CITY OF
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 23 1984 PAGE 8
Ms. Seeger stated she would like to see some attention paid to the
areas where they seem to have little participation in other areas of
the parks and recreation activities. The ice may be the on7y recrea-
tional dollars those particular people get. 5he was thinking of
areas where there are more seniors or lower income areas where youn9
families with cfiildren cannot afford to participate in recreational
programs. She would like to see this included as part of their consider-
ations for a skating area.
Mr. Allen stated
interest/demand"
interest", They
area first; then
that one of the considerations listed was "public
He thought the paramount consideration was "public
want to f�ear if people are interested in a skating
see if there is a demand and some of the other thinqs.
Ms. Seeger stated that was the concern she was addressing--that they
consider interest more than the demand.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOSING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED Tt1E
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
b. Policy - Community Park
Dr, Boudreau stated P1r. Kirk had done a great joh in putting together
the "City of Fridley Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Department
Community Park Tournament Application Form". He stated that on the first
page under "Application Deadline", they should chan9e "Non-Profit Civic
Organization" to "P�on-Profit City of Fridley Organizations".
Mr. Young stated that under "Concession Stand, he felt $50/day for rental
of the concession stand was excessive. He could see $50 for the weekend,
but not for the day. He stated this was not discussed at the
previous meetings.
Dr. Boudreau stated that if the City
they are going to have the problem of
storing it, and then returning it aft
would help cover the cost of manpower
and lighting in the concession stand.
is going to run the concessions,
having to take their food out,
er the tournament. The $50/day
for doing this, electricity, water,
MOTION BY MR, YOUNG� SECONDED 8Y MS. SCHREINER� TO CHANGE TXE RENTAL OF
THE CONCESSION STAND FROM $50 R DAY TO $50 PER TOURNAMENT,
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECZ.PiRED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
The Comnissioners agreed on the following change under "Inclement
Weather", second sentence. Change "The City of Fridley will..." to "A
staff person authorized by the Director of Park, Recreation and Natural
Resource Department will..."
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 23 1984 PA6E 9
MOTZON BY MS, SEEGER, SECOATDED MS. SCNREZNER, TO
FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE TO BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE POLICY
I. TG70 TOURNAMENTS PER MONTH — MAY=RUG.
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ZNG �'O SWISCH
F1�
SAldE WEEf�ND.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSQN XONDRICK DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr, Kirk stated the City has already received two tournament requests.
He asked the Comnission if it would be helpful if he contacted those
organizations �hat have sponsored tournaments in the past to find out
wF�at their intantions are for this year,
The Comnissioners agreed that would be very helpful.
6. OTHER BUSINESS:
a. Redevelopment of North End of Comnons Park
Dr. Boudreau showed the Commission members a sketch of the proposed
redeve7opment for this part of the park. He stated if there were no
serious objections, they were going to work up a development based on
the sketch.
Mr. Young stated the one comnent he would have is he would like to
somehow see a bandshell incorporated into the development.
ADJOURNP1ENi:
MOTION BY MR. ALLEN� SECONDED BY MR. YOUNG� TO AA70URN Tf1E 1gETZt7G. UPON A
VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED TNE JAN. 23� I984
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING AA7IXIRNED AT 10:Z0 P.M.
Respectfully suhmitted,
L�' Saba ���
Recording Secretary
Policy - Ice Locations
I. The Park, Recreation, and Natural Resources Department shall provide and
maintain two types of ice areas in the City of Fridley:
A. General Areas: These areas shall be designated for pleasure skating
only. No hockey playing or the use of hockey sticks shall be allowed
on general areas. If the ice surface is sufficiently large. it may
be divided into two sections by means of a snow berm. One section
shall be for general skating and the other for the use of persons with
hockey sticks. No organized hockey games may be played on a general
skating area.
B. Hockey Rinks: These rinks shall be designated exclusively for the
purpose of playing ice hockey, broomball, and other organized team
activities. These rinks shall have boards around the entire rink,
goals, and the appropriate markings embedded in the ice.
II. Number of Ice Areas:
The number of ice areas will be determined on a yearly basis by the
Parks & Recreation Comnission. Contributing factors will be school age
population, hockey/broomball registration and participation, staff
evaluation, and interest expressed by an area.
III. Skating Season:
The length of the skating season shall be entirely dependent upon the
weather. The Director shall decide when it is no longer feasible to
maintain any form of safe ice surface because of temperatures and/or other
weather conditions.
IY. Location of Ice Areas:
A. All ice areas, general and hockey, shall be located on Fridley city
property. When this is not possible, lease agreements may be
erranged.
B. The Department shall not maintain any skating areas on natural hodies
of water.
C. Every attempt should be made to install hockey rinks where permanent
installation is possibte.
D. Where feasible, warming houses or shelter areas shall be provided
at general ice areas and hockey rinks at the discretion of the
Director. The hours of operation shall be determined by the Direct8r.
When the temperature is below -15°F, or the wind chill is below -25 F.,
the warming house or shelter area shall be closed. Tfie official
temperature will be that given over WCCO AM radio.
Policy - Ice Locations (cont.)
V. Ice Dimensions:
A. General Ice Area: The minimum ice surface area for a general
ice area shall be 4,000 sq. ft. If a larger ice surface is
possible, a section of the surface shali be designated for hockey.
The Department may provide goals for the rinks.
B. Hockey Rink: The minimum size of a hockey rink shall be that
prescribed by the amateur hockey association or other official
governing body.
VI. Ice Area Ptaintenance:
The Park, Recreation, and Natural Resources Department shall maintain
the ice areas so as to provide safe, usable, skating surfaces.
VII. The following shall be considered when establishing a skating area:
A. Water source
B. Grade level
C. Soil conditians
D. Vehicle access
E. User safety
F. Accessibility
G. Traffic barriers
H. Public interest/demand
I. Department capabiiity
VIII. The Park, Recreation, and Natural Resources Department Staff shall
supp7y to the Parks & Recreation Corimission at their regular7y scheduled
March meeting a written evaluation of the past year's skating season.
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 31, 1984
.�CALL TO ORDER:
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Chairperson Gabel called the January 31, 1984, Appeals Commission meeting to
order at 7:35 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Mernbers Present: Pat Gabel, Alex Barna, Jim Plemel, Donald Betzold
Menbers Absent: Jean Gerou
Otfiers Present: Darrel Clark, City of Fridley
Al Fehn, 1251 Hillwind Rd. N.E.
A1 Singer, 1450 Rice Creek Rd. N.E.
Hjalmer and Ruby Anderson, 1491 Rice Creek Rd. N.E.
APPROVAL Of JANUAR'f 17, 1984, P,PPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MO'_"IOtJ BY AfR. BESZOLD, SECONDED BY M.R. BARFA� _TO APPROVE TIIE J.tL7. Z7� 1984�
AP^EALS COMMISSION P17:]UTES AS WRITTE7:. .
UPON A POICE VOTE, ALL VOTIPJG AYE� CIIAIP.PERSCl7 CABEL DECLARED T:IE MO"'ZON
CAP.RIED UNANIMOUSLY,
l. TABLED: REQUEST FOR VARIANCES PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 205 OF THE FRIDLEY CITV
, TO REDUCE FRONT YARD SETBACK FROM 35 FEET TO 25 FEET: TO REDUCE�IfE
REQUIRED REAR YARD SETBACK FOR A DRIVEWAY FROP1 5 FEET TO 1 FOOT: A�JD TO
REDUCE TfiE REQUIRED 15 FEET PLANTING STRIP 6ETWEEF� DIFFERENT ZONES TO
1 FOOT, GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE N.E.�U DR NT OF IPJTERST TE 694 D TRUNK
HIGFIWAY 65 ON HILLWII4D ROAD THE SAME BEING 1239 1241 1245 1247 AND
1249 HILLIlIND ROAD N.E. Request by Mr. Allan Fehn, 1251 Hillwind Road N.E.,
Fridley, Pin. 55432
MOT2077 BY 11R. pLEMEL� SECONDED BY MR. BARNA� SO REMO!'E '^HE ABOVE ISEA1
FROM THE TABLE,
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAZRPEPSOf7 GABEL DECLARED THE N.OTIOl?
CAP.RIED UNANIl10USLY.
Chairperson Gabel read the following Administrative Staff Report:
ADMYNISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
Lot 1, Western Ridge Estates
(Hillwind Road)
A. PUFiLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMEPlT:
Section 205.093, 4A, requires a minimum front yard setback of 35 feet.
APPEALS C0�1MISSION MEETING, JANUARY 31 1984 PAGE 2
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Public purpose served by this requirement is to provide desired front
yard space to be used for green areas on access and to add to the
attractability of a multiple dwelling zone. �
SECtion 205.095, 4, E3, requires parking areas to be set back 5 feet
from any rear lot line.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to separate parking areas
with landscaped areas.
Section 205.097, 4F, requires a 15 feet p1anY.ing strip between multiple
dwelling district and other residential districts.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to provide a physical
separation between districts to protect and conserve the character of
any adjoining nei9fiborfioods.
STATED HARDSHIP:
"The variances are needed because of the odd shape of the lot, the
topography of the lot, and because the driveway is in the rear yard,"
ADMIt1ISTRATIUE STAFF REVIEW:
This project requires several items that all will require City Council
approval.
First, it must be platted, and since an appreciable amount of the plat
is State Highway turnback property, the petitioner must negotiate with
the City to obtain the excess right of way.
Second, parts of the property are presently zoned R-2 and R-2 and,
therefore, the petitioner has petitioned to have that part of the plat
presently occupied by a two-family dwelling zoned to R-2 and that part
involving the construction of one two-family structure and one six-
family structure zoned R-3.
If the petitioner is successful in obtaining approval of the plat and
rezoning, he will still need variance approval on three zoning setback
requirements as outlined above. Therefore, the Board should act on the
request for the variances only, and any recommendation for approval
should be tied to the petitioner obtaining final approval of the plat
and rezonin9 at the Council level.
Ms. 6abel stated the Planning Commission did recommend to City Council
approval of both the plat and the rezoning,
APPEALS C0�1PiISSI0IJ MEETING JANUARY 31 1984 PAGE 3
Mr. Clark stated the petitioner, Mr. Fehn, was in the audience.
Mr. Clark showed the Commission members a copy of the preli+inary plat
� with the proposed buildings superimposed onto it.
Mr. Betzold stated that Mr, fehn was asking for a variance for the driveway
from 5 ft. to 1 ft. fiow steep was the drop qoing to be from where the cars
would be drivin9 to the other piece of property? His concern was that in
the wintertime when there is poor visibility or slippery conditions that this
could be a potentially dangerous situation. He would like to see some type
of physical barrier or guardrail along the road in this area.
Mr. Fehn �aas agreeable to that.
Ms. Gabel asked �1r. Fehn to state for the record what his hardship was in
terms of the variance to reduce tF�e required 15 ft. planting strip between
the different zones to 1 ft.
Mr. fehn stated the problem was that he had no other place to put the drive-
way in order to make the proper clearance past the houses. He stated they
are building on a hill that is virtually a 45-de9ree anqle.
Mr. Barna stated the variance for the reduction of the planting strip from
15 ft. to 1 ft. sounded like the petitioner did not want to plant anythinn
all the way around, 6ut actually it is talk.ing ahout an area of approx.
80 linear feet in the area where the driveway, due to the contour, comes
to within a fot of the lot line.
Mr. Fehn stated that was correct. He stated he plans to rent these new
units for $600-700 per morith per unit. In order to attract those types of
renters, he is going to have to landscape and make the area aesthetically
pleasing.
MOTION BY PfR. BARNA� SECOP7DED BY MR, PLEMEL� TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEAP.I!`7G.
UPON A VOZCE POTE, ALL VOSIl7G AYE', CXAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED TFIE PUBLZC
HEAP.ING CLOSED AT 8:05 P.N..
Mr. Plemel stated he would be in favor of approving these variances. This
property has been an eyesore, and this looked like a good plan for that area.
Mr. Barna agreed that this looked like a good plan for the area. The
Comnissioners now understood that the variance for the reduction in planting
area was only for an area of approx. 80 linear feet. With the discussion of
recontouring, he was envisioning a 10-15 ft, retaining wall, but basically
the wall was only going to be 1-2 ft. high. He could understand the
necessity for the front yard setback from 35 ft. to 25 ft.
Mr. Betzold stated he had no problem with the variances as proposed at the
meeting.
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 31. 1984
I.
Ms. Gabe7 stated she also had no problem with the variances. This was a
difficult piece of property to develop, and Mr. Fehn has worked to make
� the area aesthetically pleasing. {
2.
MO_TION BY MR. BETZOLD, SECONDED BY MP„ BARNA, TD RECOMMEND 2t7 CZTY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST FOP. VARIANCE PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 205 OF TNE FRIDLEY
CITY CODE, TO REDUCE THE FRONT YRRD SETBACK FROM 35 FT. TO 25 FT.� GENERALLY
I,OCATED ON TKE N.E. QUADRANT OF INTEP.STATE 694 AND TRUNK HIGHIJAY 65 ON
XZLLWIND ROAD� THE 5AME BEING 1239� I241� I245, I247� AND 1249 HZLLGI7ND
ROAD N.E.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLFiF2ED TIiE MO'"IOf7
CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY,
MOTI011 BY MR. BETZOLD, SECONDED BY MR. BRR'JA, TO RECOMME.ND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST FOR t'ARIANCE PURSUAf7T TO CNAPTER 205 OF THE FRIDLEY
CITY CODE, TO REDUCE TFfE REQUZRED REAR YARD SETBACK FOR A DRIVEWAY FROM
5 FEET TO I FOOT, GENERALLY LOCATED ON TNE N.E. QUADRANT OF INTERESTATE 694
A1VD TRUNK HIGNF7AY 65 ON HILLGIIND ROAD� TXE SAML' BEING 1239� 224I� 1245,
Al7D 2249 HILL47IND RORD N.E,� l47TH THE STIPULATION THAS A GUARDRAZL BE
INSTALLED AT ANY LOCATION WHERE TXE RETAINING WALL EXCEEDS 30 INCHES IN
HESGHT,
UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE� CXAIRPERSON GABEL DECLIIRED TXE MOTIO:7
CARRIED UNANIPIOUSLY.
MOTZON BY MR. BETZOLD, SECONDED BY HR. PLEIfEL, mp gECOMPIEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPP.OVAL OF THE REQUEST FOP. VARIANCE PUP.SUANT TO CHAP.TER 205 OF TFIE FRIDLEY
CITY CODE, TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED 15 FEET PLANTZNG STRIP BETf•IEEN DIFFERENT
ZONES TO 1 FOOT, GENERALLY ZACATED ON TXE N.F„ QURDWiNT OF Zl7TERSTATE 694
AND TRUNK HIGXWAY 65 ON NILLG7IND ROAD, THE SAME BEING 2239, Z24Z, Z245,
AND 1249 HILLWIND ROAD N,E. TXIS VARIANCE APPLZES TO THE APPPO:�,'IMATELY
80 LINEAR FEET AREA WHERE THE DRIVEGIAY COAfES G'IITHIN Z FOOT OF TXE ZAT LZf7E
N7D THE REST OF THE PROPERTY LSNES THAT SEPRRATE DIFFERE^JT 20NINGS FIILL BE
PLANTED 47ITX R LANDSCAPE PIJIN APPROVED BY THE CITY.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIf7G AYE� CHAIRPERSON GRBEL DECLAP.ED TXE MOT207:
CRRRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETIN6. JANUARY 31. 1984
MOTZON BY MR. BRRNA, SECONDED BY MR. PLEMEL, 2YJ OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARZNG.
� UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLAI�D Tf1E PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN AT 8:15 P.M.
Chairperson 6abe1 read the Administrative Staff Report:
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
1450 Rice Creek Road N.E.
A. PUI3LIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENT:
Section 205.073, 2, requires a minimum tot width of 75 feet for
residential lots.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to avoid the condition
of over crowding of a residential neighborhood and to avoid an
excess burden on the existing water and sewer services and to avoid
reduction of surroundin9 property values.
Section 205.044, 7, requires a minimum average front yard setback of
107 feet.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to ensure that any new
structures do not greatly impede the front yard "line of sight" for
the existing house sites.
B. STATED HARDSHIP:
"The topography {steep hill) of the lot and the existing house front
yard setback of 116 feet necessitate variances to build on the ne�i lot,"
C. ADMIIiISTRATIVE STAFF REUIEW:
The adjacent structures within 100 feet of the lots in question have
setbacks greater than 35 feet. When this situation exists, the required
setback is 6 feet more or less than the mean depth. The mean depth
in this instance is 113 feet, hence the minimum setback is 107 feet.
Because of the steep topography, a 50 foot setback is more feasible.
Furthermore, it allows a more desireable and useable rear yard.
The lot riidths, which are 73 and 74 feet, are the largest obtainable
widths because of the location of the existing house. A 10 foot side
yard setback (which is required by Code) leaves 147 feet - enough for
two lots; one 74 feet and the other 73 feet.
Ms. Gabel stated the Planning Commission did recommend to City Council the
approval of the lot split.
Mr, Clark showed the Commission members an aerial photo of the property.
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 31 1984 PAGE 5
Mr. Singer stated it was his plan to build a home for himself on one lot
and sell the other lot. Both homes will be built with tuck-under garages
to minimize the width on the loi5. �
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MOTION BY MR. BARNA� SECONDED BY MR. BETZOLD� TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEAkING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRPERSON GRBEL DECLARED THE PUBLZC
HEARING CLOSED AT 8:20 P.M.
Mr. P7eme7 stated that since there were no neighborhood objections and
these �vere very large lots, he would be in favor of approvinq the variances.
MOTION BY MR, PLEMEL� SECONDED BY MR, BARNA� TO RECOM.MEND ?'O CITY COUNCIL
APPROS�AL OF THE REQUEST FOR VARIANCE PURSUANT PO CHAPTER 205 OF THE FP.ZDLEY
CZTY CODE, TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED LOT WZD_TH FROM 75 FEET TO 73 AND 74 FEET
ANP TO REDUCE TNE AVERAGE FRONT YARD SETHACK FROM 207 FEET TO 50 FEET, ALL
LOCATED ON LOT ONE (2) SHROUGN FZFTEEN (I5)� INCLUSIVE, BLOCK ONE (I)�
IRVINGTON RDDITION� EXCEPT THAT PART PZJITTED AS HEATHER HILLS, INCLUDZNG
ADJACENT ONE-HRLF (2/2) OF 1lLLEY AND ALL OF ADJACENT COLFAX STREET AS
PLATTED� NOI4 VACATED, ACCORDZNG TO TffE RECORDE'D PLAT THEREFORE, EXCEPT
PARCELS I860 llf�'D 1870 AND EXCEPT THAT PLATTED AS RICE CREEK SECOND ADDITION,
THE SNSE BEING 1450� 1490� AND 1500 RICE CREEK ROAD N.E.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIP,PERSON GABEL DECLARED THE AfOTION
CR1?RIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MR. BARNA� SECONDED BY MR. PLEMEL, TO AA70URN TffE MEETING. UPO.N R
[�OICE VOTE, ALL VOTING A1'E, CHAZRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE JRN. 31, 1989�
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT B:30 P.M.
�Res ctfully sub itted,
,`y; -�/�' !` '� � _
Lynne Saba
Recording Secretary
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CITY OF FRIOLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETIP�G, FEBRUARY 8, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairwoman Schnabel calTed the February 8, 1984, Planning Commission meeting to
order at 7:35 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Oquist, Ms. Gabel, Mr. Svanda, Mr. Kondrick,
Mr. Minton (for D1r. Goodspeed), Mr. Saba
Members Absent: None
Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
APPROUAL OF JANUARY 11, 1984, PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. KONDRZCK� 5ECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO APPROVE iHE JAN. ZI� Z984�
PLANNING COMMI5SION MINUTES AS YlR22TEN.
UPON A POICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN 5CHNABEL DECLARED TItE MOTION
CAP.RIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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1-1984. OF THE PLANNIPlG COM�IISSION
Mr. Boardman stated that in November, the City was approached by a developer
who wanted to do a package in Lot 1, Block 2, East Ranch Estates Second
Addition. The City Council discussed th#s and suggested the HRA look at
including all the vacant property north of Rice Creek as part of the redevelop-
ment project area. It was the concensus of the City Council at that time
that maybe they should look at going in that direction.
Mr. Boardman stated that, as the Commission might know, industrial develop-
ment bonds (IDB's) may he a thing of the past; at least, in this year's
congress, IDB's are going to be limited drastically. With the limitation
of tfie IDB's, ii is going to�be very difficult to put packages together
because the canpetition for funds is going to be very steep. One of the
things Fridley has in place that is to its advantage is the reserve system,
Tf�e general reserve system is tied to the redevelopment district areas.
The reserve system provides an alternative means of financing which will
give the City of Fridley a lead role in 6eing able to attract development.
Mr. Boardman stated all a redevelopment district (not tax increment) does
is allow them to utilize the general reserve system within the City of
Fridley in those properties.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, fEBRUARY 8 1984 PAGE 2
Mr. Boardman stated that after the City Council's suggestion, the HRA did
review tfiose properties and did make a recommendation to amend the redevelop-
ment plan to include all the vacant property north of Rice Creek,
Mr. Boardman stated that as part of the state regu7ations under Chapter 462,
which establishes redevelopment areas, it says the HRA shall direct their
recanmendations to the Planning Commission for written opinion. That written
optnion goes to the City Council; t6e City Council will then hold public
hear%ngs and act to approve or not apprw e the modification to ihe redevelop-
ment plan.
�r. Boardman stated that in his memo to the Planning Commission dated
Feb. 2, 1984, he laid out those areas in the amendment which he felt were
consistent with the Comprehensive Plan. He also noted there was nothing in
the Comprefiensive Plan that would be incon�istent with the goals and objectives
by including this propety in tfie redevelopment district. He had also inc7uded
copies of those sections of the Comprehensive Plan. He stated that if the
Comnission agreed with t�is, he would ask for the approval of Planning
Corranission Resolution No. 7- 1984.
Ms. Ga6e1 asked if there was any tax increment money going into this.
Mr. Boardman stated increment is not captured until the tax increment finance
district is established. All this is doing is establishing the boundaries
of the redevelopment project area.
MS, Gabel stated that if they are not going to capture any increment, how
do they assist in the deve7opment financially and why would they want to do
it if it doesn't capture any incremeni?
Mr. Boardman stated all this would do is allow them to uti7ize or set up a
tax increment district within those boundaries. They will not set up a tax
increment district now on any of these project areas until they actually have
a project that is going to move into that area. The reason they do that is
that all of the projects that would be established in all of these areas
would be economic development districts. An economic development district
means they can capture tax increment for a period of eight years, They do
not want to set up a tax increment now until they have an actual project.
If they set up a tax increment now, they would have eight years, and they
may not be able to get a development on that site for 3-4 years. That would
give them only an additional five years for tax increment. Also, because it
is in a project area, that does not necessarily mean that it has to be a tax
increment district.
Mr. Boardman stated that, for example, a development comes in and the
development needs reserve system financing. The HRA at that point in time
has the opportunity to use the reserve system financing on that property
without necessarily setting up a tax increment district, just because it is
in the project area. This is not a7ways the case, but it would be an
alternative. If the HRA determines they would have enough tax increment
that would be generated from some of their other projer.t areas so they would
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETIPJG, FEBRUARY 8 1984 PAGE 3
not have to generate additional tax increment out of this project, they
would 6e able to use the tax increment that was generated from some of the
other projects to fund a reserve sysiem to allow the development to happen.
Mr. Boardman stated the reserve is something that does not go away. They
are putting money into a fund that would be returned to them. The only
reason that the fund would 6e depleted is if a company would go into default
on its loan.
Mr. Minton asked how the reserve was returned.
Mr. Boardman stated that when a tax increment is established, it generates
dollars. Those dollars go to the HRA. What happens when they set up a
reserve system - the HRA puts 10% of t�e bond cost into a common bond fund
and 10% is taken from the tax increment of tfie HRA and put into a general
reserve fund. When t�e investors pay off the bond fund and have not defaulted
on the bond fund, tfiey still have a pool of money that comes back. So, they
are not really spending dny money, but they are putting tha.t money into a
secure, interest-bearing account. Eventually, that will come back to the
taxing public.
Mr, Boardman stated one of the main things they are looking at is that this
gives the maximum f7exibi7ity for development on that vacant property.
MOTION BY MR. MINSON, SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION
RESOLDT70N NO. I- I984,'�A RE50LUTION OF TNE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF FRIDLEY, FINDING THE FRIDLEY HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY'S
MODIFIED REDEVEIAPMENT PLAN IS CONSZSTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE DEVEIAPMENT
PLAN OF THE CITY OF FRIDLEY.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMO£ISLY.
2. RECEIVE JANUARY 5 1984 HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSIOPJ MINUTES:
� MOT20N BY MR. MSNTON, 5ECONDED BY MS. GABEL, TO RECEIVE THE JAN, 5� 1984,
HUMAN RESOURCE5 COMMISSION MINUTE5.
UPON A VDICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN 5CHNABEL DECLRRED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOU5LY.
3. RECEIVE JAN. 9, 1984, SPECIAL PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSIOPJ MEETIPJG MINUTES:
MOSION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR 5VANDA� TO RECESVE TXE JRN. 9, 2984,
SPECIAL PARK5 & RECRERTION C6M7SSION MEETTNG MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMRN 5CHNABEL DELCARED THE MOTSON
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
PLANNING COMtAISSIONMEETING FEBRUARY 8, 1984 PAGE 4
4.
MOTION BY MR. OQUI5T� 5ECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK, TO RECEIVE SHE MINUTES
OP THE JOINT MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AND HUMAlJ
RESOURCES COMM15SION ON JAN. I0, 1984.
This meeting was for the purpose of discussing 1984 community development
block grant monies. On page 7 of the minutes, the Comnission members
present at the meeting had shown an interest in the folloa�ing projects:
1. 15% to human service grants
2. Center City projects
3. Housing rehab/energy (back-up project)
4. Singte family rehab (back-up project)
5. Senior housing roll-over study
Ms. Scfinabel stated she did not know if any of the Commission members were
familiar with the senior citizen roll-over project at 23rd & Quincy St. N.E.
The concept was tf�e same as outlined by h1r. Boardman at this meeting. What
happened was that after the townhouse-type units were built, two factors
surfaced: (1) The units were two-story units, and many seniors are not
interested in climbing stairs so the housing that was built was inappropriate.
(2) Most of the seniors simply were not interested in leaving their homes.
Their homes were paid for, they had lived there all their lives, their friends
were there, and their possessions were there.
Ms. Schnabel stated that, consequently, the project was not successful, and
it was her understanding that many of the units have not been sold. She has
talked to several people in that area, and those people are not interested
in this housing at all. She stated she would hate to see the City of Fridley
spend $5-7,000 on a study, as she did not think it was worth that kind of
money. 5he would rather see that amount of money go to the people who are
really poor for their specific needs.
Mr. Saba agreed.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CFIAIRWOMAN 5CHNABEL DECLARED THE MINUTES
RECEIVED. �
140TION BY MR. MINTOl7� SECONDED BY hII2. SABA� TO ADOPT RECOMMENDATIOP7S I-S,
AS LISTED ABOVE AND ON PAGE 7 OF T,YE COPIMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMP92SS,-.CPi/
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMI5SION MEETING MINUTE5� AS POSSIBLE PROJECTS FOR Z984
CDBG GRE7NT MONIES.
�1r. Saba stated he wou7d recommend the r.emoval of #5, senior housing ro71-
over study,
Ms. Gabel stated she was not quite so sure about deleting it, because they
do not have all the facts and information. Possibly, if they had a study
done, they might find it was something they did not want to do, but maybe
tFiere was a way to do it more successfully.
PLANNIfJG COPIP1ISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 8, 1984 PAGE 5
P1s. Schnabel stated she just did not want to see that kind of money spent
on a study.
MOTION TO AMEND BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST� TO ADOPS RECOPIMENDATIOr7S
I- 4 AS POSSIBLE 2984 CDBG PROJECTS� DELETING �i5� SENIOR HOUSING ROLL-OVER
STUDY:
I. Z5% TO HUMAN 5ERVICE GRANT5
2. CENTER CITY PROJECT5
3. HOU5ING RENAB/ENERGY (BACK-UP PROJECT)
4. SINGLE FAMILY REHAB (BACK-UP PROJECT)
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIR4TOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
5. RECEIVE JANUARY 12, 1984, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTFS:
MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO RECEIVE THE JRN. I2� 2984�
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES.
UPON A VDICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRFIOMAN 5CHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTZON
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
6. RECEIUE JANUARY 17, 1984, APPEALS COMMISSIOfJ MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO RECEIVE THE JAN. I7, Z984�
APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTZON
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
7. RECEIVE �ANUARY 17, 1984, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSIOPJ MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. SVANDA� SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK� TO RECEIVE THE JAN. I7� 1984�
ENVIRONMENTAL �UALITY COMMIS520N MINUTES.
Mr. Svanda stated there were two motions in the minutes he would like the
Planning Commission to concur with. The first motion dealt with New
Chapter 109 entitled "Air Quality", a basic amendment to an existing
ordinance. The Old Chapter 109 was combined with air quality and solid
waste, and the basic amendment was the deletion of solid waste. What was
left was quite short and was basically a reference to the state statutes
and rules. He had some reservations about approving it at first, wondering
wfiat the value of it was, 6ut he was now convinced tF�at by having the ordinance
on the books, it put people on notice and ii does give the City some authority
to go beyond the general nuisance provisions the City already has. He stated
the Environmental Quality Commission recommended approval of the New Chapter
109 at their last meeting.
Mr. Svanda stated the second motion dealt with a solid waste conference at
the Sheraton Inn-West on Feb. 23-24. The Comnission felt it was very
important for tF�e City to be represented at that conference, particularly
PLANNING COMF1ISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 8 1984 PAGE 6
Planning Department people, John Flora, City Council, particularly
Ed Hamernik. The conference was put on jointly by the MPCA and the Waste
Management Soard, and tfie registration was very reasonable at $35.
Mr. Svanda stated the Commission's goal was to build some concensus within
city staff and the decision makers to help the Commission do its job of
trying to get a solid waste reduction program in gear in the City and trying
to do it before the P4etropolitan Council or Anoka County comes down and tells
the Ciiy what to do, Tfie Commission felt it would be more prudent to have
sanet6ing going and make a demonstration of what is being done and how
effective the program is instead of having someone come and tell them what
to do, fiow to do ii, and wfien to do it.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING RYE, CHAIRWOM}1N SCXNABEL DECLARED THE MINUTES
RECENED.
MOTION BY MR. SVANDR� SECL9NDED BY MR. 5ABA� TO CONCUR WTTH THE ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY COMM2SSION TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL APpROVAL OF THE NEFT
CfiRPTER .Z09 ENTITLED, "AIR QUALITY"� AND TO REPEAL OLD CHAPTER I09.
UPON A T�O*CE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOU5LY.
MOTION BY MR. SVANDA� SECONDED BY hII�. MINTON� TO CONCUR WITH TXE ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY COMAIISSION TO RECOMMEND TCJ CITY COUNCIL THAT ONE OR MORE pLANNING
STAFF PEOPLE, JOHN FLORA, AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, PARTICULARLY ED HAMERNIK�
WHO WA5 THE OFFICIAL LIAI50N TO SHE "ANOKA COUNTY" SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT
TASK FORCE"� ATTEND�THE "EVALUATSP7G WASTE MANAGEMENT OPTSONS" CONFERENCE AT
THE SHERATON INN—WEST ON FEB. 23-24, 2984.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHRIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TXE b104'ION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8. RECEIVE JANUARY 23, 1984 PARKS & RECREATION COP1MISSIQM MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. KOITPRICK� SECONDED BY MR, SABA� 2L� RECEIS'E TXE JAN. 23� 2984�
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTE5.
h1r. Kondrick stated he would like the Planning Commission to concur with a
motion made 6y the Parks & Recreation Commission to approve a Policy on
Ice Locations for the City of Fridley.
UPON A VOICE i�OTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOAIAN SCHNABEL DECLRRED THE M,OTION
CARRIED UNANZPIOUSLY.
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO CONCUR WITH TXE PARKS 5
RECREATIOti COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND TO CSTY COUNCIL THE ApPROVAL OF THE
POLICY ON ICE LOCASIONS IN THE CITY OF FRIDLEY,
UPQN A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTSNG RYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNASEL DECLRRED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
PLANNING COM�1ISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 8, 1954 PAGE 7
Mr. Svanda asked why the A-frame building at the Innsbruck Nature Center
was boarded up.
Mr. Boardman stated the building has been condemned by the city building
inspector because the major beam supporting the bui7ding is rotten. He
stated it would be quite expensive to repair it, and he did not know if
the building would 6e torn down or not,
Mr. Svanda stated he felt that if the building was donated to the City in
the first place, it was worth putting some money into it and fixing it.
This is such a nice area to visit, and he felt that if the building was
torn down, the whole area would start to deteriorate. The area is already
going downhill because the City is not paying any attention to the trails
tfiat it spent money on not too long ago to put in. Ever since the emphasis
switched to Springbrook Nature Center and the staff moved to Springbrook,
maintenance in t�is area has completely stopped. The br�sh is not cut or
t(1e trail maintained. He would like to see the City make an effort at
repairing tfie building, Minimally, he would like to see some work done on
the trails.
Mr. Kondrick stated he was not aware of the condition of the building until
a short time ago. He stated he would look into this and bring it up at
the next Parks & Recreation Commission meeting.
9. RECEIVE JANUARY 31, 1984 z APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK, TO RECEIVE THE JAN, 8I, 1984,
APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES. .
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10. OTHER BUSINESS:
a. Resignation of Mr. Boardman
P1s. Schnabel stated that as Chairwoman of the Planning Commission, she
would like to thank Mr. Boardman for all the hard work he has done for
the City, She stated it has been a pleasure working with him, and
every member of the Planning Comnission will miss him very much.
ADJOURfdMENT;
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� SEGYJNDED BY MIZ, SABA, TO ADTOURN THE MEETING. UPON A
VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE FEB. 8� I984,
PLANNING COMMI5520N MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:05 P,M.
Respectfully submitted,
L�
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Recording Secretary