PL 02/29/1984 - 6830City of Fridley
A 6 E N D A
PLANNING C�MMISSION MEETING WEDNESDAY, FESRUARY 29, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
APPRQYE PLANNIN6 COMMISSION MINUTES: FEBRUARY 8, 1984
1. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT, P.S.
84-01, CREEKRIDGE, BY 7HOMAS BRICKNER: Being a replat of
parts of Lots 2, 3, 4 and 5, Auditor's Subdivision No. 10,
generally located and 66th and Arthur Streets N.E.
2. UACATION REQUEST, SAV �i84-Ol, BY CURTIS LARSON: Vacate 67th
Avenue N.E. adjacent to Lot 1, Block 2, Oak Ridge Assition,
to make a new building site at 6994 Fridley Street N.E.
3. RECEIVE ENERGY COMMI55ION MIWUTES: JANUARY 24, 1984
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RECEIVE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES: FEBRUARY 2, 1984
RECEIVE PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINU7ES: FEBRUARY 13,
6, RECEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: FEBRUARY 14, 1984
7. RECEIUE ENVIRONMENTAL Ql1ALITY COMMISSION MINUTES: FE81
A. Please note, there is a motion in these minutes that
goes to the City Council (Support of concept> etc.)
8. OTHER BUSINESS:
ADJOURNMENT:
_ 7:30 P.M.
PAGES
1 - 7
8 - 13
14 - 23
ORCHID
SALMON
GREEN
YELLOW
BLUE (AT MEETIN6)
CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY S, 1984
CALI T� ORDER:
Chairwoman Schnabel called the February 8, 1984, Planning Carimission meetinq to
order at 7:35 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Oquist, Ms. Gabel, Mr. Svanda, Mr. Kondrick,
Mr. Minton (for P1r. Goodspeed), Mr. Saba
Members Absent: None
Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
APPROVAL OF JANUARY ll, 1984, PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
MO:ION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO APPROi'E ;HE JAN. 11� I984�
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES AS 47RZTTEN.
UPON R VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCNNABEL DECLARED TI7E MOTION
CIiRR2ED UNANIMOUSLY.
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Mr. Boardman stated that in November, the City was approached hy a developer
who wanted to do a package in Lot l, 81ock 2, fast Ranch Estates Second
Addition. The City Counci7 discussed this and suggested the HRA look at
including all the vacant property north of Rice Creek as part of the redevelop-
ment project area. It was the concensus of the City Council at that time
that maybe they should look at going in that direction.
Mr. Boardman stated that, as the Comnission might know, industrial develop-
ment bonds (IDB's) may be a thing of the past; at least, in this year's
congress, IDB's are going to be limited drastically. With the limitation
of tF�e IDB's, it is going to�be very difficu7t to put packages together
because the canpetition for funds is going to be very steep. One of the
things Fridley has in place that is to its advantage is the reserve system,
The general reserve system is tied to the redevelopment district areas.
The reserve system provides an alternative means of financing which wi71
give the City of Fridley a lead role in being able to attract development.
Mr. Boardman stated all a redevelopment district (not tax increment) does
is allow them to utilize the general reserve system within the City of
fridley in those properties.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 8 1984 PAGE 2
Mr. Boardman stated that after the City Council's suggestion, the HRA did
review those properties and did make a recommendation to amend the redeve7op-
ment plan to include all the vacant property north of Rice Creek.
Mr. Boardman stated that as part of the state regulations under Chapter 462,
which establishes redevelopment areas, it says the HRA shall direct their
recommendations to the Planning Carmission for written opinion. That written
opinion goes to the City Council; the City Council will then hold public
hearings and act to approve or not approre the modification to the redevelop-
ment plan,
Mr. Boardman stated that in his memo to the Planning Commission dated
Feb. 2, 1984, he laid out those areas in the amendment which he felt were
consistent with the Comprehensive Plan. He a7so noted there was nothing in
the Comprehensive Plan that wou7d be inconsistent with the goals and objectives
by including this propety in the redeveiopment district. He had also Tncluded
copies of those sections of the Comprehensive Plan, He stated that if the
Commission agreed with this, he would ask for the approval of Plan�ing
Commission Resolution No, 1- 1984.
Ms. Gabel asked if there was any tax increment money going into this.
Mr. Boardman stated increment is not captured until the tax increment finance
district is established. All this is doing is establishing the boundaries
of the redevelopment project area.
Ms. Gabel stated that if they are not going to capture any increment, how
do they assist in the development financially and why would they want to do
it if it doesn't capture any increment?
Mr. Boardman stated all this would do is a11ow them to utilize or set up a
tax increment district within those boundaries. They will not set up a tax
increment district now on any of these project areas until they actually have
a project that is going to move into that area. The reason they do that is
that all of the projects that would be established in all of these areas
would be economic development districts, An economic development district
means they can capture tax increment for a period of eight years. They do
not want to set up a tax increment now until they have an actual project.
If they set up a tax increment now, they would have eight years, and they
may not be able to get a deve]opment on that site for 3-4 years. That would
give them only an additional five years for tax increment. Also, because it
is in a project area, that does not necessariTy mean that ii has to be a tax
increment district.
Mr. Boardman stated that, for example, a development comes in and the
development needs reserve system financing. The HRA at that point in time
has the opportunity to use the reserve system financing on that property
without necessarily setting up a tax increment district, just because it is
in the project area. This is not always the case, but it would be an
alternative. If the HRA determines they would have enough tax increment
that would be generated fran some of their other project areas so they wou7d
PLANNIN6 COMMISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 8 1984 PAGE 3
not have to generate additional tax increment out of this project, they
would be able to use the tax increment that was generated from some of the
other projects to fund a reserve system to allow the development to happen.
Mr. Boardman stated the reserve is something that does not go away. They
are putting money into a fund that would be returned to them. The only
reason that the fund wo�ld be depleted is if a company would go into default
on its loan.
Mr. Minton asked how the reserve was returned.
Mr. Boardman stated that when a tax increment is established, it generates
dollars. Those dollars go to the HRA. What happens when they set up a
reserve system - the HRA puts 10% of the hond cost into a common bond fund
and l0Y is taken from the tax increment of tf�e HRA and put into a general
reserve fund. When tfie investors pay off the bond fund and have not defaulted
on the bond fund, tfiey still have a pool of money that comes back. So, they
are not really spending any money, but they are putting that money into a
secure, interest-bearing account. Eventually, that will come back to the
taxing public.
Mr, Boardman stated one of the main thi�gs they are looking at is that this
gives the maximum flexibility for development on that vacant property.
MOiZON BY MR, MZNTON� SECONDED BY MH., SABA� TO RPPROVE PLANNING COMMISSIOid
RESOLDiION NO. 2— Z984�"A RESOLUTION OF THE PI.ANNING COMMISSION OF TfIE
CITY OF FRZDLEY� FINDING TNE FRIDLEY fIOUSING RND P.EDEVEIAPMENT AUTHOA.ITY'S
MODIFIED REDEVEIAPMENT PL11N IS CONSISTENT WZTH THE COMPREHENSIVE DE9ELOPIdE'NT
PLAN OF THE CITY OF FRIDLEY.
UPON A i/OICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXAZRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CAP.RIED UNANIMODSLY,
2. RECEIVE JANUARY 5, 1984, HUMAN RESOURCES COP1F1ISSIO�J MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. MINTON� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO RECEIVE TXE JAN. S� Z984,
HUMAN P,ESOURCES COMFfISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE T/OTE, ALL VOTSNG AYE, CNAIRWpMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED SHE MOTION
CARRIEA UNANIMOUSLY,
3. RECEIVE JAN, 9, 1984, SPECIAL PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSIOP! MEETIfJG MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY 1�2 SVANDA, TO RECEIVE THE JAN. 9� Z984,
SPECIAL PARKS & RECREASION COMISSIA'J MEETING MINUTES,
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAZRFIOMAN SCHNRBEL DELCARED TXE MOTION
CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY.
PLANNING COMMISSIONMEETING fEBRUARY 8 1984 PAGE 4
4. RECEIVE MINUTES OF JOINT MEETING OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COP1MISSIO�d AND
MOTZON BY MR. OQUIST� SECQVDED BY MR. XA'JDRICK, TO RECEIVE THE MINUTES
OF THE JOINT MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AND XUMAtJ
RESOURCES COMMISSION ON JAN. 10� I984.
This meeting was for the purpose of discussing 1984 community development
block grant monies. On page 7 of the minutes, the Comnission members
present at the meeting had shown an interest in the folloo�ing projects:
1. 15� to human service grants
2. Center. City projects
3. Housing rehab/energy (back-up project)
4. Single family rehab (back-up project)
5. Senior housing roll-over study
Ms. Schnabel stated she did not know if any of the Commission memhers were
faniliar with the senior citizen roll-over project at 23rd & Quincy St. N.E.
The concept was tF�e same as outTined by Mr. Boardman at this meeting. What
happened was that after the townhouse-type units were built, two factors
surfaced: (1) The units were two-story units, and many seniors are not
interested in climbing stairs so the housing that was built was inappropriate.
(2) Most of the seniors simply were not interested in leaving their homes.
Their homes were paid for, they had lived there a71 their lives, their friends
were there, and their possessions were there.
Ms. Schnabel stated that, consequently, the project was not successfuT, and
it was her understanding that many of the units have not been sold. She has
talked to several people in that area, and those people are not interested
in this housing at all. She stated she would hate to see the City of fridley
spend 55-7,000 on a study, as she did not think it was worth that kind of
m6ney. She would rather see that amount of money go to the people who are
really poor for their specific needs.
Mr. Saba agreed.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL YOTING AYE� CfIASRWOMAN SCXNABEL DECIARED THE 1'?IfJU°'ES
RECEIVED,
MOTION BY MR. MINTOIT, SECONDEb BY MR. SABA, TO ADOPT RECOMMENPATIOI.�S I-5,
AS LISTED ABOVE AND ON PAGE 7 OF T.YL C011MUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMAfI�SS� �iti/
RUMAN RESIXIRCES COMMISSION MEETZNG MSNUTES, AS POSSZBLE PROJECTS FOR 1984
CDBG GRANT MONIES.
Mr. Saba stated he would recommend the r.emoval of �/5, senior housing roll-
over study.
Ms. Gabel stated she was not quite so sure about deleting it, because they
do not have all the facts and information. Possibly, if they had a study
done, they might find it was something they did not want to do, but maybe
there was a way to do it mnre successfully.
PLANNI��G C�h41ISSI0N MEETING FEBRUARY 8 1984 PAGE 5
Ms. 5chnabel stated she just did not want to see that kind of money spent
on a study.
MOTION TO AMEND BY MR. SABA, SECONDED BY MR. OpUIST� 2t� ADOPT RECOl1MENDAT20t7S
1- 4 AS P0.SSZBLE 1984 CABG PROJECTS� DELETING k5� SENIDR XOUSING ROLL-OVER
STUDY:
1. Z5� TO HUMAN SERVICE GRRNTS
2. CENTER CiTY PROJECTS
3. FIOUSSt7G REHAB/ENERGY (BRCX-UP PROJBCT)
4. SINGLE FAMILY REHAB (BACK-UP PROJECT)
� UPON A VOICE VOSE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIR4TOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TNE MOTIOIJ
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
5. REf,EIVE JANUARY 12, 1984, NOUSING & REDEVELOPMEt�T AIiTHORITY MINUTfS:
MOTION BY M5. GABEL, SECONDED BY MR. SABA, � RECEIVE Tt1E JRN. 12, 1984,
HOUSZNG & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES.
UPON R VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE, CXAIP.[90MAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTIOP7
CARRIED UNRNIMOUSLY.
6. RECEIUE JANUARY ]7, 1984, APPEALS COP1MISSIO�J MINUTES:
MOTIDN BY MS. GABEL, SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO RECEIVE TNE JAN. 17, 1984,
APPEALS COPSMISSION PfINUTES.
UPQN A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWODf.�' SCHNABEL DECLAP,ED THE.MOTION
CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY.
7. RECEIVE JANUARY 17, ]984, ENVIRQNMENTAL QUALITY G0�1MISSIOPa MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. SVANDA� SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK� TO RECEIVE THE JRN. 17� 1984,
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES.
Mr. Svanda stated there were two motions in the minutes he would like the
Planning Commission to concur with. The first motion dealt with New
Chapter 1�9 entitled "Air Quality", a basic amendment to an existing
ordinance. The Old Chapter 109 was combined with air quality and solid
waste, and the basic amendment was the deletion of solid waste. What was
left was quite short and was basically a reference to the state statutes
and rules. He had some reservations about approving it at first, wondering
what the value of it was, but he was now convinced thai by having the ordinance
on the books, it put people on notice and it does give the City some authority
to go beyond the general nuisance provisions the City already has. He stated
the Environmental Qua7ity Commission recommended approval of the New Chapter
109 at their last meeting.
Mr, Svanda stated the second motion dealt with a solid waste conference at
the Sheraton Inn-West on Feb. 23-24. The Cortmission felt it was very
important for the City to be represented at that conference, particularly
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PLANNING COtR�tISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 8 1984 PAGE 6
Planning Department people, John Flora, City Council, particularly
Ed Hamernik. The conference was put on jointly by the MPCA and the Waste
Management 8oard, and the registration was very reasonable at $35.
Mr. Svanda stated the Cortmission's goal was to build some concensus within
city staff and the decision makers to help the Commission do its job of
trying to get a solid waste reduction program in gear in the City and trying
to do it before the Metropo7itan Council or Anoka County comes down and tells
the City wfiat to do. 7he Comnission felt it would be more prudent to have
sanething going and make a demonstration of what is being done and how
effective the program is instead of having someone come and tell them what
to do, how to do it, and when to do it.
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRWOMAN SCXNABEL DECLAP.ED THE MINUTES
RECENED.
MOTION BY MR. SL'RNDR� SECONDED BY FII2. SRBA� TO CONCUR WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCZL APPROVAL OF TNE NEFI
CHAPTER �09 ENTZTLED, "ASR QURLISY"� AND 25� REPEAL OLD CNAPTER 109.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TYE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
MOTION BY MR. SVANDA, SECONPED BY AII2, MIN20N, 2Yl CONCUR WITH THE ENVIRONMElJTAL
QUALITY COMlfISSION TO RECOMMEND � CZTY COUNCZL THAT ONE OR MORE PLANNZNG
STAFF PEOPLE� JOHN FLORA� AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, PRRTICULARLY ED NAMERNIK,
WHO WRS THE OFFICIAL LIAZSON TO THE "ANOXA COUNTY" SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT
TASK FORCE", ATTEND THE "EVALUATING G7ASTE MANAGEMENT OPTZONS" CONFERE1dCE AT
Tf1E SHERATON INN-WEST ON FEB. 23-24, 1984. .
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMRN SCHNABEL DECLARED TXE PfOTION
CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY.
8. RECEIVE JANUARY 23 1984 PARKS & RECREATIOM COPiMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR, KOP7PRICK� SECONDED BY MR. SRBA, R� RECEI?'E THE JAN. 23, 1984,
PARKS 6 RECREATION COMMISSION MSNUTES.
Mr. Kondrick stated he would like the Planning Commission to concur with a
motion made by the Parks & Recreation Commission to approve a Policy on
Ice Locations for the City of Fridley.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNRBEL DECLARED THE M.OTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
MO270N BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� Rb CONCUR WITH THE PARKS &
RECREATIOA� COMMISSIIXV � RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL THE AppROVAL OF THE
POLICY ON ICE LOCATIONS IN THE CITY OF FAIDLEY.
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE� CHAIR{40MRN SCHNABEL DECLRRED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETIN6, FEBRUARY 8 1984 PAGE 7
Mr. Svanda asked why the A-frame building at the Innsbruck Nature Center
was boarded up.
Mr. Boardman stated the building has been condemned by the city building
inspector because the major beam supporting the building is rotten. He
stated it would be quite expensive to repair it, and he did not know if
the building would 6e torn down or not.
Mr. Svanda stated he felt that if the building was donated to the City in
the first place, it was worth putting some money into it and fixing it.
This is such a nice area to visit, and he felt that if the building was
torn down, the whole area would start to deteriorate. The area is already
going downhi7l because the City is not paying any attention to the trails
that it spent money on not too long ago to put in. Ever since the emphasis
switched to Springbrook Nature Center and the staff moved to Springbrook,
maintenance in this area has completely stopped. The brush is not cut or
the trail maintained. He would like to see the City make an effort at
repairing the building. Minimally, he would like to see some work done on
the trai7s.
Mr. Kondrick stated he was not aware of the conditian of the buildin9 until
a short time ago. He stated he would look into this and bring it up at
the next Parks & Recreation Commission meeting.
9, RECEIVE JANUARY 31, 1984, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MO?ION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK, SO RECEIS'E THF. JAN. �1, 2984,
APPEALS COMMZSSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CNAIXWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY.
10. OTHER BUSINESS:
a. Resignation of Mr. Boardman
�1s. Schna6el stated that as Chairwoman of the Planning Commission, she
would like to thank Mr, Boardman for all the hard work he has done for
the City. She stated it has been a pleasure working with him, and
every member of the Planning Cortmission will miss him very much.
ADJ W RNMEIJT :
X02'ION BY MR. KONDRICX� SEWNDED BY MR. SABA� 21� ADJOURN THE MEETING. UPON A
VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRY70MAN SCXNABEL DECLARED THE FEB. 8, 2984,
PLANNING COMMZSSION MEETING AA70URNED AT 9:05 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
'--tL
ynn 5aba
Recording Secretary
PUBLIL HEARING
BEFQRE THE
PLANNIN6 CUMMISSION
Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the
Flanning Commission of the City of Fridtey in the tity Hall at 6431
io theSCouncil�Chamber at57:30 PM�eforythe purpose of: 1984
Consideration of a Preliminary Plat, P.S.
�84-Q1, Creekridge. by Thomas Brickner,
being a replat of parts of Lots 2, 3, 4
and 5. Auditor's Subdivision No. 10, to
be used for residential development. a11
located in the in the North Half of Section
13, Township 30. Range 24, County of Anoka,
Mtnnesota.
Generally located between 66th and Arthur
on the Rice Creek Elementary 5chool property.
Any and e11 persons desiring to be heard sha11 be given an opportunity
at the above stated time and piace.
VIRGINIA SCHNABEL
CHAIRWOMAN
PLANNING COMC9ISSION
Publish: February 15. 1984
February 22, 1984
Planning Comnission 2-14-84
City Council
MAILING LIST
P.S. �i84-01, Creekridge, by Thomas Brickner
Thomas Brickner
6249 Ben More Drive N.E.
fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Dale Lee
1482 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Roy Demars
1464 Mississinpi Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Roy Demars
1442 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. 8 Mrs. Archie Platt
1428 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. Herb Egeness
710 Rice Creek Terrace
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. 8 Mrs. Herbert Johnson
1381 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Richard Podvin
1391 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. Edward 6ottwald
1415 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Edward Cibula
1427 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. 8 Mrs. Robert Nelson
1439 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Cletus Nei
1465 Mississippi Street N.E.
FridTey, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Leon Paquette
1479 Mississippi Street N.E.
fridley, MN 55432
Janet Schmidt
1489 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Helen Shute
1501 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. Jekabs Perkons
1535 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Richard D. Johnson, Sr.
6536 Arthur Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Gordon Hedlund
1255 Pike Lake Drive
New Brighton, MN 55112
Mr. & Mrs. Robert Dischinger
6529 Arthur Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mrs. Carol Uecker
6545 Arthur Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Gary Isaacson
6535 Arthur Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Harold Corrie
6553 Arthur Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. Richard Ronningen
6561 Arthur Street N.E.
fridley, MN 55432
Mr. Colin 6errety
6573 Arthur Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
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Mailing List for Brickner Plat Page 2
Mr. Dave Torkildon
Anoka County Park Dept. Mr. & Mrs. Myron Ostlund
550 N.W. Bunker Lake Blvd. 1400 66th Avenue N.E.
Anoka, MN 55303 Fridley> MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Vernon Lindberg
6583 Arthur Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Curtis Hagen
6611 Arthur Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Franklin Stokes
6645 Arthur 5treet N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Robert Michalski
6655 Arthur Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr & Mrs. Joseph Michalski
6665 Arthur Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. 6erald Kline
6679 Arthur Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. Allen Clair
6691 Arthur Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Dennis Ranstrom
6700 Arthur Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. Floyd Foslien
3345 University Avenue N.E.
Minneapolis, MN 55414
Mr. & Mrs. Arlon Haupert
6524 Anoka Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Marcel Bouchard
6544 Anoka Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. b Mrs. Roger Weitnauer
6562 Anoka Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Donald Peterson
6584 Anoka Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Roland Zacharias
1387 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. C. L. Finney
6600 Anoka Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432 _
Mr. & Mrs. Arthur Demeyere
6620 Anoka Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Matthew Rowles
6640 Arthur Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Gerald Applin
6650 Anoka Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Ronald Youngdahl
6660 Anoka Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. Gary Longerbone
6670 Anoka Street N.E.
Fridley> MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Randy Christianson
6680 Anoka Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. Richard Brickner
1233 12th Avenue N.E.
Fridtey, MN 55432
�ane Hoppe
1351 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Frank Ratasky
1363 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Robert Bridgeman
1375 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley> MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Donald Hen9el
1379 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley� MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Joseph Menth
138H 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Curtis Loschy
1399 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
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City of Fridley
6431 University Avenue Northeast
F�idley, Minnesota 55432
SE: Vacation of 67th Avenue N.E:
on north line of Iot 1, Blorlc 2,
Oak Grove Addition,
6694 FY�idley Street Northeast
F�idley, hlinnesota 55432
1b Whan It May O�ncern:
Attached is the application,00pies of certificate of survey, plat plan,
pictures of ac�jacent area.
I respectfully request the vacation to build a residence fca� our
personal occupation.
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PLANNING CAMMISSION: APPROYED v DISAPPROVED DATE J�`/ N0.
CIiY COUNCIL: PUBLIC HEARING DATE 1ST READ 2ND READ
CITY COUNCIL: APPROYED DISAPPROYED DATE NO
PAF�IC FEE REQUIRED: APqUNT PAID
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NAME (�rtis A. Iarson FEE ��7 �� RECEIPT NO I� �> �15
STREET LOCATION 6F PROPERTY �94 Eiidlev Street Northeast t�a� � r-r� �—"
LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF PROPERTY I�t 1, Block 2, Oak (�ove Addition ��.t-- X
PRESENT ZONIN6 CLASSIF�j��N R-1 EXISTING USE OF PRQPERTY Vacant
ACREAGE OF PROPERTY 4800 S.F. DESCRIBE BRIEFLY THE PROPOSED ZONING CLASSIfICATION
OR TYPE OF USE AND IMPROVEMENT PROP05ED Detached Sinzle F�amilv Residence
Has the present applicant previously sought to rezone, plat, obtain a lot split or
variance or special use permit on the subject site or part of it? __yes X no.
What was requested and when? Int vwner requested variances
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The undersigned understands that: (a) A list of all residents and owners of proper-
ty within 350 feet rtwst.be attached to this application (rezoning), 300 feet, (plat-
ting), must be attached to'this 8ppl5eation. '(b) This application must be signed
by all owners of the property, or an explanation cjiven why this is not the case.
(c) Responsibility for any defect in the proceedin9s resultinq from the faiture to
list the names and addresss of all residents and property owenrs of property in
question, belongs to the undersigned.
(b) Option to p�chase by applicant.
A sketch of proposed property and structure must be drawn and aCtached, showing the
following: 1. North direction. 2. Location of the proposed structure on the lot.
3. Dimensions of property, proposed structure, and fron and side setbacks. 4. Street
names. 5. Location and use of adjacent existing buildings (within 350 feet).
The undersi�ned hereby declares that all the facts and respresentations stated in
this application are true and
DA7E Februarv 17. 1984 SI
6730 Madi.son Street No¢�theast
ADDRESS ��e3', �nesota 55432 TELEPHONE NO 571-8253
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6730 Madison Street N. E.
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5AY #84-01, Curtis Larson
NoRhem States Power Company
North Diviafon
4501 6Bt� Avenue Non�
Brooktyn Center, Minnesota 55429
Telephone (6t2) 5669120
Re: STREET VACATION AATACENT TO LOT 1, BLOCK 2,
OAK GROVE ADDITZON
Dear Mr. Larson,
With regard to the request for the street vacation adjacent
to Lot 1, Block 2, Oak Grove Addition, Fridley, Minnesota,
Northern States Power Company has an overhead line running
from the rear property line across lot #1 to a street light
at the north side of the cul-de-sac on Fridley Street.
Normally we would ask that a 5 foot utility easement be
retained along the street right-o£-way being vacated and
move our poles and overhean line to that easement. Be-
cause of the terrain along the 67th Avenue right-of-way,
we are asking that a 5 foot utility easement be maintained
along the south property line of Lot ql, Block 2. We will
then move our line to that easement. I£ you have any
questions regaring this proposal, feel free to contact me
on 566-9120.
Since;ely,
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Staff Assistant
North Division
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c City of Fridley, Planning Dept. Gilbert A. Menkveld
6431 University Avenue N. E. 737 East Main Street
Fridley, Minnesota Anoka, Minnesota
55432 55303
CITY OF fRIDLEY
ENERGY COMMISSION
MEETING
JANUARY 24, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Saba called the January 24, 1984, Energy Co�nission meeting to
order at 7:37 p.m,
ROI.L CAIL:
Members Present: Dean Saba, Bruce Bondow, Brad Sielaff, Dale Thanpson
Members Absent: None
Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner
APPROVAL OF NOVEP1BER 29, 1983, ENERGY COMt4IS5I0N MINUTES:
MO:^SON BY MR. SIELAFF, SECONDED BY MR. BONDUW� TO APPROVE 2!!E NOV. 29� I983,
ENERGY COMMISSZON MZNUTES AS i7RITTEN,
UPON A VDICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE, CXRIRPERSOIJ SABA DECLARED TNE MOTION CARRIED
UN7WZMOUSLY.
1. WELCOME NEW COMPIISSION PIEMBER: DALE THOMPSON
Mr. SaAa welcomed P4r.Thanpson to the Commission and introduced him to the
Cortmission members.
2. COP�TINUED: COPIPUTERIZED ENERGY PLANNING PROCESS
Mr, Saba stated that at the Nov. 29th meeting,the Comnission had told
Ms. Janice Thompson, of the Minnesota Energy Agency, that they would make
a formal commitment at their next meeting as to whether they wanted to go
ahead with the energy data collection project.
Mr. Boardman stated that from what he understood,Ms. Thompson has volunteered
to help with the NSP and Minnegasco information. To date, they have not
received any of that information from Ms. Thompson. He stated Mr. Deblon
did some updating of information as far as demographic data.
Mr, Boardman stated Ms. Thompson did send the model zoning guides on wind,
solar access, and earth-sheltered buildings and information on loan programs
for schools, as requested by the Commission.
Mr. 5aba stated he felt it was very feasible to put this type of information
together and have sane kind of basis of data collection, even if the informa-
tion is a couple of years old.
ENERGY COMMISSION MEETIN6 JANUARY 24 1984 PAGE 2
MOTION BY MR. BONDCJW� SECONDED BY 1�fft, SIELAFF� TO PURS[IE THE ^COMMUNITY
SNERGY DATA COLLECTION" PRWECT.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSaV SRBA DECLARED TXE MOTION
CARRSED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Saba asked Staff to contact Ms. Thompson and tell her the Commission
has made this commitment.
Mr, Boardman suggested the Canmission members contact oil distributors
and propane distributors to try to put together some data for oil and
propane usage in the City.
Mr. Thompson volunteered to call sane propane distributors, and Mr. Sielaff
volunteered to call some oil distributors.
3. CONTINUED: PROGRAMS FOR CABLE TV
Mr. Bondow stated he has been waitng for the City to get some conversion
equipment in order to convert the "Wood Heating Seminar" slide show to
video tape.
Mr. Boardman stated Mr. Robb Penaloza is working on it. When Mr. Deblon
returns from vacation, he will be working with Mr. Penaloza to have it
ready by the next Cortmission meeting.
Mr. Saba stated he would like sane prioritization on the "Wood Heatina
Seminar" video tape to get it on cable as now is the time of year it should
be shown.
Mr. Saba stated he had viewed a 14 minute video tape at the Fridley library
on "How to Insulate the Basement". He stated it was an excellent tape.
4. OTHER BUSINESS:
a. Comnunity Energy Workshop
Mr. Saba stated that, apparently, the Department of Pubiic Service
has directed the public utilities to come up with some conservation
programs. Those decisions were supposed to be made within 45 days
following Jan. 22, 1984. Mr. Saba stated the idea that sparked his
interest was the"Comnunity Energy Workshop" which comes directly from
a project in Minneapolis, the Neighborhood Energy Workshop program.
Neighborhood residents learn about low cost/no-cost energy conservation
measures,energy-use habits, and have the opportunity to schedule an
appointment for an audit of their home. After the meetings, residents
are offered free tools and weatherization materials valued at up to $40.
ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 24 1984 PAGE 3
Mr. Saba stated he would like to recommend that a similar project be
done in Fridley. They vrould have to contact NSP and Minnegasco to
see if they would be interested in establishing a program in Fridley.
Mr. Boar�nan stated that in Minneapolis, a]ot of city staff time was
involved in the process. Minnegasco did very little except provide
films and energy materials. Fridley staff would not have that kind of
time.
Mr. Boardman stated Minneapolis used neigfiborhood volunteers in which
block captains actually distributed materials. Staff got involved
with their housing inspectors who explained the programs.
Mr. Boardman stated that as a homeowner in Minneapolis, he had taken
advantage of this project. At the first meeting, residents viewed an
audio-visual presentation. Then, the residenis broke up into four
areas. A fiousing inspector was in each of the four areas explaining
in more detail how to insulate, etc. Every 15 minutes, the residents
sr+itcfied areas so tbey had heard all four presentations. At that
meeting, the residents could sign up for an audit of their home. Before
the energy auditor came to the home, the resident was to go through the
house and look at different tfiings and fill out a form. When the
energy auditor came to the home, he looked at the resident's form and
then went through the house explaining the different things. After the
inspection,the residents attended a Saturday workshop where they watched
1t�lms and picked up their weatherization materials. The residents had
to go home that afternoon and sCart workinq on tfieir house,because an
energy auditor came out later in the afternoon to see if the residents
were having any problems and, if so, to help with those problems.
Mr. Boardman stated that Minneapolis does its own rehabs. He stated
that for a program like this, Fridley may be able to use the CAP Agency,
because the CAP Agency handles rehab and weatherization kinds of proqrams.
Maybe Minnegasco and NSP would help pay for their time. He also
suggested the Commission might want to do a survey to see if people in
Fridley would be interested in this type of program.
Mr. Saba stated he was definitely interested and would like to follow
up on this. He stated he would contact NSP and Minnegasco.
b. MEC's Audit of Bruce Bondow's House
Mr. Bondow stated he had the audit done through Minnegasco on Dec. 15.
The auditor was with a company called Equinox, a contractor hired by
Minnegasco to do the energy audits. The auditor spent about 12 hrs.
going through his house. The auditor had a lot of good suggestions
about the doors, aligning hinges, filling cracks in the door jambs, and
other things as he went through the house. He checked the wall and
attic insulation, behind the electrical outlets, etc.
ENERGY COMMISSION MEETIN6, JANUARY 24, 1984 PAGE
Mr. Bondow stated the auditor filled out a rating program of 66 items.
He evaluated caulkinq weatherstripping, ca7culations on attic
insulation, and inputted tfie energy usage for gas. Mr. Bondow
supplied the figure� for tfie electricty. The auditor looked at the
foundation,the volume of heated and air conditioned space. It was kind
of a total energy usage analysis. The auditor ran all the data through
a porta6le computer. Gfien the answers came back, he filled out a
report. It calculated tfie estimated cost and payback for each of the
ttems based on contractor installation and do-it-yourself installation,
Mr, Bondow stated he was favorable impressed, and it reinforced his
} feeling that t6e Comnission's efforts in promoting the MEC'S home energy
audits were well worth it.
Mr. Saba asked Mr. Bondow if he thought it would be worthwhile to make
a video tape presentation of an auditor doing a home energy audit.
Mr. Bondow stated he thougfit it was a very good idea.
Mr. Sa6a stated he would follow up on this and see if doing a vfdeo
tape of a MEC's home energy audit was feasible.
c. CO Monitors
Mr. Bondow stated that, based on the article publiched in Mechanix
Illustrated on CO monitors and chemical badges, he had written letters
to manufacturers for information on any local distributors of CO
monitors. He stated fie F�ad received back information from almost
every manufacturer he had written to. He stated the CO monitors and
chemical badges range in price from $2 - 695.
Mr. Bondow stated Life Sign makes a chemical badge with a renewable
tablet in the center of the device. When the tablet is exposed to
50 parts per million of carbon monoxide, it turns dark. The tablet
has to be replaced about every six months. Cost -$2.
Mr. Bondow stated there is a carbon monoxide detector alarm that
functions similar to a smoke detector, available in 120 volt power,
which has to be wired into the home, Cost -$39,95.
Mr. Bondow stated a similar detector with alarm was priced at $99.95,
wired into the house. Sounds an alarm at 50 parts per million and
sounds a buzzer at 40� parts per million.
Mr. Bondow stated that in all cases, the manufacturers did not have
any distribution in this area; however, they could order by mait.
Some manufacturers expressed there woutd be some quantity discount if
ordering a thousand.
ENERGY COMMISSION MEETIN6 JANUARY 24 1984 PAGE 5
Mr. Saba stated he would like Jim Hill, Public Safety Director, to
see this information and give them an opinion. Mr. Saba stated this
would be excellent information to publish in the city newsletter.
Mr. Boardmanstated this information should also probably go to
Bob Aldrich, Fridley fire Chief.
Mr. Bondow stated maybe Staff could write a transmittal letter to
Mr. Aldrich and/or Mr. Hill asking them for their comnents for distri-
bution and promotion of the CO monitor.
Mr. Saba thanked Mr. Bondow for all the work he had done. His efforts
were certainly appreciated.
c. Energy Loan Brochures
Mr. Boardman stated he had included in the Cortmission's agenda packet
information on tfie energy saving low interest home improvement loans
for Minnesota fiomeowners of all incomes through the Minnesota Housing
Finance Agency. He stated this is an excellent program, and it was
advertised in t�e last city newsletter.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MR. BONAOW� SECONDEA BY MR, THOMPSON, TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. UPON
A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAZRPERSON SABA DECLARED THE JRN. 24� I984,
ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING ADJDURNED AT 9:06 P.M.
Respectfully su itted,
�
c� t �-
Lynn� Saba
Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION
MEETING
FEBRUARY 2, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Goodspeed called the February 2, 1984, Human Resources Comnission
meeting to order at 7:34 p,m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Brian Goodspeed, Bob Minton, Peter Treuenfels, Barbara Kocher
Members Absent:
Otliers Present:
Mary van Dan
Bill Hunt, Administrative Assistant
APPROUAL OF JANUARY 5, 1984, HUMAN RESOURCES CONP1ISSION MINUTES:
MO_^SOt7 BY MP., TREUENFELS� SECONDED BY MR. MZNTON, � APPROVF: THE JAN, 5� 2984,
HITIIAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES AS f7RITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GOODSPEED DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
RECEIVE JAWUARY 10, 1984 JOINT MEETING MI
ccrnti e. uiiunu nrcrviorre fMAMTffTl11.1.
COMMUNITY DEUELOPMENT
MOTZON BY tfR, MINTON, SECONDED BY MR. TREUENFEIS� TO RECEIVE THE JAN. 10, I984,
JOZNT MEETING MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE�
CRRRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
GOODSPEED DECLARED THE MOTION
MOi20N BY 11R, MZNTON� SECONDED BY FII2. TREUENFEIS� TO RDOPT THE AGENDA AS
WRITTEtI.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE�
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
1. OLD BUSINESS:
GOODSPEED DECLARED TXE MOTION
a, Consideration of funding of human service organizations (1483
CDaG funds)
Mr. Treuenfe7s stated he had drafted some items for the work pian
that the Conanission might want to pursue regarding CDBG grants.
HU�1AN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 2, 1984 PAGE 2
Mr, Treuenfels stated two objectives dealt with 1983 CDBG grants and
the third objective dealt witf� the 1984-86 CDBG grants.
Mr. Hunt stated the deadline for grant applications is Feb. 24, 1984.
He stated the Senior Citizen Center resubmitted its application after
receiving a copy of the HUQ guidelines as suggested by the Comnission
at their last meeting. He stated tf�ey are expecting 2-3 more applica-
tibns. He stated that two weeks before the March Comnission meeting,
he would send to tfie Canmission members whatever applications had been
received for tf�eir review, If any applications were received in the
last week, he would send those to the Comnission members on the Friday
before their meeting. The Comnission members will then discuss the
grant app7ications at their March meeting.
MOTIOPI HY MR. MINTON� SECONDED BY MS. KOCHER� TO RBIDE BY TXE ACTION
STEPS FOR CDBG GRANTS AS PREPARED BY MR. TR£UENFEZS ON JRN, 30� 1984.
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPEP.SON GOODSPEED DECLARED TIIE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
b. Consideration of funding of human service organizations (1984-1986
CDBG funds)
Mr. Hunt stated that at the joint meeting with Community Development
Commission and Human Resources Comnission, Mr. Boardman had stated he
thought it was important to start looking at a possible 3-year plan,
even though there will be some projects that will be on a project-by-
project basis or a year-by-year basis. They might want to allude to
possible 3-yr. projects in ihe prospectus they send to organizations
requesting proposals. He stated further discussion on this might be
more appropriate 7ater when they get into the 1984 grants.
c. Consideration of 1984 work plan
Mr. Goodspeed stated that at the last Comnission meeting, tfie Commission
members had come up with some possible work plan projects for 1984.
1) Young people/families - Barbara Kocher
Ms. Kocher stated she had discussed this with some people in the
comnunity, and the one thing she had come up with was a latchkey
program.
Mr. Treuenfels stated he is the Commission liaison to the Community
Education Advisory Council. He stated the Council has lookeA into
a latchkey program, but there did not seem to be much enthusiasm for
it,
Ms. Kocher stated Spring Lake Park, School District 16, will be
starting a latchkey program this year. They are also starting a
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 2 1984 PAGE 3
Comnunity Education program for the children, and the latchkey
program will be incorporated with that program. She thought it
was a wonderful program. Children can be dropped off in the
irrorning, tfiey have a healthy breakfast, and it is a fun and
healthy atmosphere for children to stay both before and after
school. She would also like to see a gymnasium open with adult
supervision so the cfiildren would have some freedom to develop in
some other areas instead of a commitment to just one sport like,
for instance, hockey, which is a terribly expensive and canpetitive
sport.
Mr. Treuenfels suggested Ms. Kocher contact 7om Myhra, Director
of Cortmunity Education, to see if there would be any interest
in pursuing a latchkey program in the schools.
2) Volunteerism - Bob Minton
Mr. Minton stated that in his attempt to get a canmittee going,
he feit it was important for a committee to meet during the day,
and he was finding it difficult to get people who could meet
during tfie day. For this type of carmittee, he felt it was importartt
to have some professional people involved. He stated that if the
Commission doesn't have a volunteer recognition event, what were
some other things they could do as a Co�nission?
Ms. Kocher suggested volunteer recognition through a newsletter,
Mr. 600dspeed stated Columbia Heights has a"Humanitarian of the
Year" Award and tfiey reco9nize this individual through the use of
a written publication. Ne a7so stated that maybe sanething with volun-
teerism could be incorporated with 49'er Days.
Mr. Hunt stated service clubs may want to take on volunteer recog-
nition as a project. They might want to sponsor a recognition
dinner or reception or have an evening program.
Mr. Hunt stated he was continuing to meet with the Anoka County
Volunteer Coalition. It looked like the Coalition will soon be
getting a"clearing house" off the ground. 7hey have already started
to circulate a volunteer opportunities inventory. They hope to
eventua7ly have a metro-area clearinq house that can be accessed
fairly easily over the telephone. He stated that when the Coalition
gets to the point where they start recognizing and getting a list of
agencies that are using volunteers in fridley, then it might be more
feasibie to get those agency people to work out the detai7s of sane
type of recognition. He stated Unity Hospital, which is probably
the biggest user of volunteers, already has a voTunteer recognftion
program,
Mr. Minton stated he would try to formulate something for the
Work plan for the next meeting.
HU�1AN RE50URCE5 COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 1 1984 PAGE 4
3) Human Rights (No-Fault Grievance Procedure) - Peter Treuenfels
Mr. Treuenfels stated he had drafted this up for the 7984 work
plan. He stated a training session was held on Jan. 14. Five
people attended tfie training, including two from fridley. He
stated he felt tfie No-Fault Grievance Camnittee was constituted
and able to function.
Mr, Treuenfels stated he would like to revise the No-Fault Grievance
Procedure waiver form slightly. If there was no objection, he
would rework it and bring it to the Comnission for approval.
4) Housing - Peter Treuenfels
Mr. Treuenfels stated he had drafted a goal and objectives on
"housing" for the 1984 work plan. He stated he has been asked
by Mary Cayan to let it be known that the Anoka County Community
Housing Resources Board (ACCHRB) would like to have a representative
from Fridley, The Board is basically made up of realtors. If the
Cortmissioners knew of any realtors who would be interested in being
represented on this Board, they could contact Ms. Cayan.
Mr. Goodspeed stated he would be willing to contact Mary Schreiner,
who was a realtor in Fridley and also a memher of the Parks &
Recreation Corrnnission.
5j Diaster PrQaredness/Public Safety - Peter Treuenfels
�4r. Treuenfels stated he had drafted a goal and objectives on
"pu6lic safety" for the 1984 work plan,
Ms. Kocher stated one thing discussed at the last meeting related
to "public safety" was the use of seat belts. She stated she sees
so many small children who are not fastened into child restraint
devices and are standing up on the seats. It is state 1aw that
children 4 and under must be in child restraint devices. and she
did not know why the police were not stopping and tagging people
for violation of that law. Are the police in Fridley doing it?
She stated she would like to see it a priority in Fridley that the
police stop and tag violators.
Mr. Minton stated maybe the Cortmission should have a representative
from the po7ice department attend a Commission meeting and discuss
with the CoROnission what their policy is regarding this.
Mr. Hunt stated he saw no problem with asking a representative from
the police department to come to a meeting and explain exactly what
their present policy is.
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 2 1984 PAGE 5
�r, Treuenfels suggested Ms. Kocher write an objective and some
action items regarding child restraint devices to add to the
work plan under "public safety".
Mr. Treuenfels stated that regarding disaster preparedness, he
had a lot of questions as to what fiappens in case of a disaster
on a large scale, and may6e tfie Cortmission can pursue that in
more dept� tfiis year.
61 Accessibility - Bob Minton
Mr. Minton stated he had looked at the Accessibility Guide and
the date on it is 1983, He stated they had a two-year plan for
the guide, so he would suggest the Co�nission wait until 1985
before they look at updating the guide. He would recanmend this
item be eliminated from the work plan for this year.
7j Locke House - Brian Goodspeed
Mr. 600dspeed stated he had called the Anoka County Historical
Society and was informed that the Historical Society had turned
the house over to the Anoka County Parks Department. He t�en
contacted Dave Torkildson, Anoka County Parks Direct�r.
Mr. Torkildson stated he did not know anything about it but agreed
to find out what was wrong with the house. Mr. Torkildson agreed
to meet 6im on Tfiurs „ Feb. 9, at 3:00 p.m, at Columbia Arena.
(Other Cottmission members were invited to join them.) Mr. Torkildson
told htln Anoka County is giving him approximately $6,000 a year to
repai.r all tfie 6istorica7 structures in the County. Mr. Torkildson
was given a list of priorities of what to do first, and the Locke
House was last. The County has projected 10 years before the Locke
House is open and usable. Mr. Torkildson also stated that the
Anoka County Historical S�ciety apparently auctioned off a17 the
furniture from the house before it was transferred over to Anoka
County.
Mr, Goodspeed stated that after his meeting with Mr. Torkiidson,
he would write up what needs to be done in terms of repair and
maintenance and would incorporate that into an item for the work plan.
8) Child abuse/spouse abuse - Brian Goodspeed
Mr. Goodspeed sated he had discussed this with his father who is
a social worker for Hennepin County. What was suggested to him was
to make sure that doctors and teachers in the Fridley area are
following state laNS that require them to report suspected child
a�use.
HU�4AN RESOURCES COFIMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 2, 1984 PAGE 6
Ms. Kocher stated that, as a teacher, she felt teachers are really
in tune with this and are always watching and looking into situa-
tions that look like cBild abuse. She stated she felt where the
education is lacking is with the children--to educate the cfiildren
so that t6ey can recognize wfiat is and what is not acceptable
behavior and that it is alright to tell a teacher or a counselor
when they feel they are being treated wrongly.
Mr, Goodspeed stated maybe the Commission should talk to someone
in the school system to find out what the schools are doing regard-
ing awareness of child a6use,
Mr. Treuenfels stated he sees an e7ementary school principal and
the Columbia Heights senior high principal frequent7y. He stated
he would ask tfiem some of these questions and also invite them to
discuss it at a Cortmission meeting,
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MR. TREUENFELS, SECONDED BY MS. KOCHER, TO AA70UP,N THE MEETING. UPON
A vOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHASRPERSON GOODSPEED DECLJIRED TXE FEB. 2, 1984,
NUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MF,F,TING ADJOURNED AT 9:26 P.M.
Res.ectfully submitted,
' �'
�� .,. t_�
Lyn e Saba
Recording Secretary
�
CALL TO ORDER;
CITY OF FRIDLEY
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
MEETING
fEBRUARY 13, 1984
Chairperson Kondrick called the February 13, 1984, Parks & Recreation Commission
meetfng to order at .7:40 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Menbers Present
Menbers Absent
Others Present
Dave Kandrick, Dick Young, Dan A11en
Mary Schreiner, Jan Seeger
Charles 8oudreau, Parks & Recreation Director
Jack Kirk, Recreation Supervisor
APPROVAL OF JANUARY 23, 1984, PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES:
MO:"SON BY MR. YOUNG, SECONDED BY MR. ALLEN� TO APPROVE TXE JANUARY 23� 198Q,
PAI'XS & RECREATION COMMISSZON MZNUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE�
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
APPPROVAL OF AGENDA:
The following items were added to the agenda:
KONDRICK DECLARED THE MOTZON
"Update on Rice Creek School Situation" - Item a under "Director's Report"
"F.Y.S.A." - Item a under "Other Business"
Chairperson Y,ondrick declared the agenda approved as amended.
1, DIRECTOR'S REPORT:
a. Update on Rice Creek School Situation
Dr. Boudreau stated that, as the Caronission members were aware,
Tom Brickner had purchased the Rice Creek School property (about 10
acres) from the School District. Dr. Boudreau stated his concern
centered around the park dedication. Mr. Brickner is required to
give a park dedication of .09 acres. When Mr. Brickner first went
to the City Councii with a praposal, the parcel he was going to dedicate
for park land was 7ocated somewhat in the center of the property. which
PARK 8 RECREATION COMMISSION MEfTING, FEBRUARY 13, 1984 PAGE 2
is high ground. Dr. Boudreau stated this was acceptable to both the
City Council and to him. Since then, Mr. Brickner has changed his
mind and fias cane back with another proposal in which he would give
the City park land on the eastern side of the property ptus buying
the backs of two lots, which is about 100 ft. by 60 ft.
Dr. Boudreau stated this is a wet, low area, 7 ft. lower than where
the park is located now. He raised the point that this would be
a substandard .09 acre piece of land witfi two back lots that are
very wet and very unusable for park purposes because of the drainage
onto them.
Dr. Boudreau stated his feelings to Councilman Schneider that if the
center parcel was not available, from the City's standpoint, he would
rather take the money and move the present tennis court to Harris
Lake which is two blocks away. He stated the City has substandard
parks in the City and another such area is not needed. He pointed
out neighborhood parks such as 8enjamin-Briardale, Madsen, Flanery,
and Sylvan dre nice neighborhood parks because they are in the middle
of a neighborhood, thus serving the residents.
Dr. Boudreau stated that not only does the City not need another .09
acre park, but on top of that Mr. Brickner has planned 23-24 homesites
which is putting an average of 50 more peopte into that neighborhood.
They can't serve the neighborhood now, because there is not adequate
park land.
Dr. Boudreau stated fie brought this to the Comnission for their
information as he had told them he would keep them informed. He
stated it was his recomnendation that the City does not need another
substandard piece of park land to service a neighborhood that is
' already void of sufficient park area.
Mr. Allen agreed. He emphasized further that the Canmission does not
feel the City should accept below standard park land for that area.
UPON A VOICE 70TE� ALL VOTING AYfi, CHAIRPERSON lCONDRICX DECLARED 2NE
NOTZON CARRI£D fINANIMOUSLY.
2. NEW BUSINESS:
a. Softball Tournament Requests
Mr. Y.irk stated that at Lhe last meeting, the Commission felt it was a
good idea to contact those organizations that haae sponsored tournaments
in the past to find out what their intentions were for this year. He
PA�KS 6 RECREATION COhMI5SI0N PoEETING L FEBRUARY i3, i984 PAGE 3
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stated he contacted the five non-profit organizations: Fridley Tiger
Hockey Booster Club, Fridley Jaycees, FYSA, Fridley Firemen's Relief
Assoc., and Fridley Covenant Church.
Mr. Kirk stated that from these organizations, he has received three
softball tournament requests: (7) The Fridley Tiger Hockey Booster
Club is requesting a tournament on the same weekend as last year,
June 29, 30, 31. (2) The Fridley Jaycees are requesting a tournament
on Aug. 10, li, 12. (3) The fYSA Girls Softball League is requesting
a tournament on July 73, 14, 15.
Mr. Y.irk stated he has not received any information from the Fridiey
Firemen's Relief, and the Fridley Covenant Church indicated an interest,
but has not gotten back to him with specifics.
MpTION BY MR, YOUNG� SECONDED BY MR, RLLEP� TO RECOMMENP APPROSAL OF
THE FOLLOWING THREE SOFTBALL TOURNAMENT REQUESTS FOR 1984:
1, FRIDLEY TZGER HOCKEY BOOSTER CLUB - JUNE 29� 30, 31
2. FRIDLEY JAYCEES - AUG. 10� 22� 12
3. FYSR GIRIS SOFTBALL - JULY 23� 14, IS
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CNASRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE
MOTION CRRRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Kirk stated they have received two other requests from Fridley non-
profit organizations, One is from the Fridley/Columbia Heights Knights
of Columbus Council requesting a tournament on May 18, 19, 20. The
second request was written last year from the Fridley 49'ers. They
were considering having a tournament during 49'ers Days, June 16 and 17,
Since that timG they have contacted the City and the City has agreed to
run a tournament for the Fridley 49'ers on that particular weekend.
MOTION BY MR. YOUNG� SECONDED BY MR, ALLEN� TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF
THE FOLLOPIZNG TWO SOFTBALL TWRI4AMENT REQUESTS FYlR 1984:
1. FRIDLEY/COLUMBIA HEIGHTS KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS COUNCIL - MAY 18, 19�20
2. FRIDLEY 49'ERS (RUN BY THE CITY) - JUNE Z6, I7
t7PON A VOSCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CXAIRPEP,SON ICONDRICX DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRlED UNANIMOUSLY. �
Mr. Kirk stated they now have five approved tournaments from Fridley
non-profit organizations. There is now one tournament opening in May,
June is full, one opening in July, and one opening in August.
Mr. Kirk stated they have received two other written requests from
groups outside fridley. Based on their policy, these two groups do
not meet the criteria for holding a tournament in Fridley. These two
groups are the Suburban Girls Softball League for a fast-pitch tourna-
ment and Minnepaul Deaf Athletic Association (a Minneapolis/St. Paul
organization).
PARKS & RECREATION CaMMIS5I0N MEETIN6, FEBRUARY 13, 1984 PAGE 4
MOTION BY MP.. YOUNG� SECONDED BY MP., ALLEN, 2Y1 DENY THE SOFTBALL
21�URNAAfENT REQUESTS FROM THE SUBURBAN GIRLS SOFSBALL LEAGUE AND THE
MINNEPAUL DERF ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION BECAUSE THESE TWO GRQUP5 DO NOT
MEET THE CRITERIA SSTABLZSHED IN THE PQLFCY FOR TXE COMMUNITY PAP.K.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr, Kirk stated he would notify all the groups of approval or denial.
Mr. Kirk stated that regarding the 49'ers tournament, the City is
looking at running a two-day tournament, probably with 32 men's teams
and about 16 wane�'s teams. With the men'3 team, they wil7 run a
bracket tournament where each team will play two games on Saturday,
and based on ha tfiey do on Saturday, they will come back for a single
elimination tournament on Sunday.
3. OLD BUSINESS:
a. Hockey Association of Fridley
Dr. Boudreau stated the Comnission had requested the HAF to submit a
written request. He stated that to date, they have not received this
information, As far as he knew, things sti11 stood as they did at the
last Commission meeting. He stated it was his recommendation that since
broomball has submitted schedules and has played its schedule of
activities and since the City has committed in the past to 6 hrs of
play-off ice time for girls broomball and to reimburse them for the
referees used during the season, that a commitment could be made again
for this year.
Dr. Boudreau stated the opposite side of that is that the Canmission
did request sane information from the HAF, of which broomball is a part.
That information has not been received. It was up to the Canmission as
to whether they wanted to make a decision on broomball.
Mr. Allen stated he got the fee7ing that the Commission is beinq
shuffled around, He stated the HAF has been given many opportunities
to get this information to the Comnission.
Mr. Kirk stated that in the past, the City has agreed at the beginning
of the season on what they would give towards the HAF. Last year, the
HAF was not happy with what was given to them, and that is why they
are coming to the Commission this year to work someihing out. At this
ti'me, there is no agreement between the City and the HAF for this season.
Dr. Boudreau stated some of the questions asked by the Commissioners
were what happens to the registration money, what other sources give
money to the HAF, where that money goes, and what type of fundraisers
are held. Those questions were not answered. The Commission may wan±
sane of those answers before committing to anything.
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION HEETING, FEBRUARY 13, 1984 PAGF 5
Mr. Kondrick stated he did not think they had enough information to
make any decisions,
MOTION BY MR, YOUNG, SECONDED BY MR. ALLEN� TO TABLE FUR^'HER DISCUSSION
ON THE HAF UNTZL T$E NEXT MEETING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTZNG AYE� CXAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLRRED TNE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Young stated he has talked to two people who have children playinq
hockey in the Coon Rapids hockey association and the Blaine hockey
-. association. Registration fee for the house league in Coon Rapids is
$35/yr. In addition to that, every participant is given a 48-bar box
of candy to sell. If the participants do not seli the candy, the
parents have to buy the candy, so that is $24 more that each family has
to pay for a child to participate.
Mr. Young stated that in Blaine, the registration fee is $20/yr. A
dance is held as a fundraiser and each participant is expected to sell
$20 worth of tickets. In fact, the parents are billed for the $20 and
must pay it if all the tickets are not soTd, In addition, every parent
gets a monthly bi}1 for ice time of between $11-15/month. So, the
house league parents in Blaine are paying for all the ice time.
4. OTHER BUSINESS:
a, FYSA
Mr, Young stated that at the last meeting, Mr. Pawlyshyn had mentioned
the fact that the HAF was having trouble gettfng parents involved and
the FYSA was having the same problem. He stated he has received the
FYSA newsletter and in the newsletter it stated that if they do not get
three key leaders, there will be no Babe Ruth baseball program in Fridley
this summer. The girls' softball program was included in that, but
apparently they now have some adult leaders.
Mr, Young stated fie was very concerned that if the Babe Ruth program
did not go this surrmer, he would like to have Staff start lookin9 at
the possibility of picking that program up on the City level.
Dr. Boudreau stated he thought Staff would 7ook at it if it got to the
point where it looked like there would be no Babe Ruth program.
ADJOURNMENT:
IIOTION BY MR. YOUNG, SECONDED BY MR. ALLEN, TO ADTOURN THE MEETING. UPON A VDICE
VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CXAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED TNE FEB. 23� 1984, PARKS &
RECREATION COMMISSZON MEETING AAIOURNED AT 8:20 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
a
��-n� ,�c�l�n
y ne Saba
Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 14, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Gabe7 called the February 14, 1984, Appeals Comnission meeting to
order at 5:00 p.m.
R�LL CALL:
Members Present: Pat Gabel, Alex Barna, Jean f,erou, Donald Betzold
Members Absent: Jim Plemel
Otfiers Present: Darrel Clark, City of Fridley
Richard Morkrid, 6461 Riverview Terrace
Albin Myslajek, 643D Riverview Terrace
Stan Lueck, 6471 Riverview Terrace
Edward P. Fragale, 6480 Riverview Terrace
Chris Jelevarov,6477 Riverview 7errace
APPROVAL OF JANUARY 31, 1984, APPEALS COM�IISSION MINUTES:
MO_^ION BY AtR. BARNA, SECONDED BY MR, BESZOLD, TO APPROVE THE JAN, 31� 1984,
APPEALS COMMZSSZON MINUTES AS FJP.ITTEN.
UPON A VOICE YOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED TNE MOTION
CAIiRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
l. VARIANCE REQUEST PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 205 OF THE fRIDLEY CITY CODE TO
ew
MOTION BY MR. BETZOLD, SECONDED BY MS. GEROU, TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARZNG
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN AT 8:02 P.M.
Chairperson Gabe] read the following Administrative Staff Report:
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
6461 Riverview Terrace N.E.
A, PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENT:
Section 205,073, 46, #1, requires a minimum of 10 feet between any
living area and side property lines.
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 14, 1984 PAGE 2
Public purpose served by this requirement is to maintain a
20 feet between living areas in adjacent structures and 15
between garages and living areas in adjacent structures to
exposure to conflagration of fire. It is also to allow fo
pleasing open areas around residential structures.
B. S7ATED HARDSHIP:
minimum of
feet
reduce
r aesthetically
"Structure is existing incorrectly due to misinterpretation of property
lines."
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW:
The petitioner's house was 6u5.1t in 1477, The 1477 plot plan indicated
a 25 foot setback from the north property line. In 1980, the petitioner
constructed a 14 foot addition to the north end of his existing house
which sfiould have resulted in an 11 foot setback from the north line
(the original plan is shown in blue on exhibit #2). The original house
apparently was placed 4 or 5 feet north of the original proposed location,
thus the discrepancy in tfie setback off the north line.
This error was not apparent until Mr, �elevarov, the owner to the north,
had a land survey made of his property. A field observation prior to
the development of Mr. Jelevarov's property would have indicated the
petitioner's north property line to be at or near the utility lines (as
s�own on exhibit �3). T�e petitioner was also maintaining this additional
triangle.
The new four-plex to the north is in excess of 30 feet north of the
comnon property line. Therefore, the distance between the structures is
at least 35 feet; this exceeds the distance required between non-fire-
rated walls of structures.
Therefore, if the Board approves this request, the staff has no stipu-
lations to recommend.
Mr. Clark stated that about a year ago, this was brought to the Appeals
Commission at a public hearing when they were listening to a variance for
Mr. Jelevarov's 4-plex to the north. It wasn't until that time that Staff
realized there was some discrepancy about the side yard setback. Since
that time, it has been decided that in order to clear the item off the pend-
ing roles, it should be either acted on or corrected. 7hat is the purpose
of this public hearing. He stated the Administrative Staff Report basically
gave the history of what happened after the house was built in 1977.
Ms. Gabel asked the petitioner, Mr. Morkrid, if he would like to make a
statement.
Mr. Morkrid stated that when the contractor built the house, Mr. Morkrid
had assumed the contractor had found the property stakes. They couldn't
find the property stakes on the south side. The contractor sodded the lot
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 14 7984 PAGE 3
according to the power lines, When Mr. Morkrid came in for the permit for
tFie addition, he assumed the power lines were his property iine, and then
they found some other stakes 5-6 ft. to the south of the power lines and
that was fiow tfie mishap occurred.
Mr. Clark stated Mr. Morkrid met all code requirements in 1977 when the
hnuse was originally built. When Mr. Morkrid decided to add onto the house,
he merely added 14 ft. to the drawing which still should have left 11 ft. to
the property line, but because the house was moved 4-5 ft. to the narth
by the contractor, it left only 5.8 ft. to the property line. He stated
usually power lines follow lot lines.
Mr. Jelevarov stated he was the owner of the property to the north. He
stated t4r. Morkrid's house should be about 10 ft, from the property line,
and now it is about 5 ft. He stated right now the power lines are dangerous
to fiis property. If anytfiing shouid happen and a power line should fall onto
fiis pr�perty or tfie apartment porch, someone could get killed.
Mr, Jelevarov stated he talked to NSP to move the power lines so they
would follow along the property 1ine. NSP said they could not move the
power lines because Mr. Morkrid's house is too close to the property line,
and it would be dangerous to the house. But now, it is dangerous to his
property.
Ms. Gabel stated that P1r. Jelevarov was aware of the location of Mr. Morkrid's
house and the power lines when he came in for a variance to build his 4-plex.
The position of that house has not changed,
Mr, Barna stated that if Mr. Jelevarov can prove there is a safety hazard
because of the power lines, fie can petition NSP and NSP will put those lines
underground, That is state law.
Mr. Jelevarov stated that if Mr. Morkrid's house stays where it is and
sanething happens where the power 7ines fall down and someone gets killed,
he wants to hold that person responsible for the damage.
Mr. Barna stated all Mr. Jelevarov has to do is send a registered letter to
NSP stating that as a property owner, the power line enfringes on his
property and causes a safety hazard.Then there is a legal record. Tf any-
thing happens later on, accidents, iawsuits, etc., that iegal record is there
that Mr. Jelevarov notified NSP. It is between Mr. Jelevarov and NSP, not
Mr. Morkrid. NSP put the lines there, and Mr. Morkrid is not responsib7e
for the location of those power lines.
Ms. Gabel read the following letters into the record:
Letter from C. B. Joriman, Fridley Electrical Inspector ta
Darre7 Clark dated Dec. 10, 1982:
"I made a field check of power lines at 6471 Riverview Terrace. The
National Safety Code cal7s for 8 ft, c7earance horizontal and 8 ft.
vertical from a 6uilding, THe lines at tfiis address seem to meet
these requirements."
APPEALS C0�7MISSION MEETING, fEBRUARY 13, 1984 PAGE 4
Letter from Larry Benson, Customer Service Representative,
North Division, NSP, to John F1ora, dated Dec. 6, 1982,
re: 6471 Riverview Terrace - 4 unii townhouse":
"As a result of our telep�one conversation of Dec. 3, 7982, I am
writing tfiis letter to inform you that in August of 7982, Northern
States Power relocated tfie averfiead line across the property at
6471-73-75-6477 Riverview Terrace, at tfie owner's request. The
line is now located so that it does not cross over tfie porches or
decks at any point. It was witfi tfie owner's approval that we placed
t�e line w(iere it is now.
"If the owner wants us to move the line again, he will have to pay
the full cost of the project (all lafior a�d materials}, Lf he wants
it put underground, he woold fiave to provi;de us wlt� an easanent
across his property. If it is 6uried at this time ofye ar, he
would have to pay a winter construction cfiarge of $3.00 per foot,
in addition to the full cost of tfie project."
Mr. Jelevarov stated tfie house is too close and if something happens and
the fire truck has to go through, his fence would have to 6e taken doam.
The house should be moved, because it is too c7ose.
Ms. Gabel stated the Comni�sibn understood Mr, Jelevarovls point, �ut every�
thing seems to be legal the way it �s no�,
Ms. Gabel askPd if tFierE were any more comnents fror� tha audience. Qeing
none, she stated it would be in order to close the Pufilic hearing.
MOTZON SY MS. GEROU� SECONDED BY MR. BARNA� TO CLOSE SHE PUHLIC HEAP,ING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON GABEL DEC7.ARED THE PL'BLIC
HEARING CZASED AT 8:21 P.M.
Mr. Betzold stated it was absolutely unreasonable to ask Mr. Morkri.d to
either move his home or tear it down. The intention of the code is being
met that there be a certain distance 6etween buildings in order to prevent
fire from spreading fran one to another. In fact, it is more than being
met because of the distances beiween the two structures. He stated it was
unfortunate that tfiere was an error made back in 1977 that caused the house
to be built 5 ft. from tF�is location, 6ut it has happened. The alternative
that is being faced rigf�t now is of great expense and hardship that would
be caused for absolutely no reason.
MOTION BY MR, BETZO.LD� SECONDED BY MS. GEROU� TO RECOMMEND 2L� CITY CDUNCIL
APPROVAL OF A VRRIANCE REQUESS PDRSUANT TO CFUiPTER 205 OF THE pR2DLEY CITY
CODE 11� REDUCE THE REQDIRED SIDE YARD SETBACK PRQM 20 FEET TO 5 PEET 8 ZNCHES
TO BRING AN EXISTING HOUSE INTO CODE COMPLIANCE, LOCATED ON PRRT OP LOT 14,
AUDITOR'S SUBDNISION NO. 23, THE SAME BEING 6462 RIVERVIEG7 TERRACE N.E.
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 14 1984 PAGE 5
Mr. Barna stated the owner of the 4-plex, P1r. Jelevarov, who is against
this action, really fias nothing to complain ahout, The incorrection of
the position of the house to the 7ot 7ine is through no fault of the
owner, Mr, Morkrid. It was just a construction error.
Ms. Gabel stated she agreed witfi the comments that have been made by
both Mr. Detzold and Mr, Barna.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPEP.SOl1 GABEL DECLARED THE MOSION
CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY,
� Ms. Gabel stated this it�n would go to City Council on March 12.
ADJOURNMENT:
MO�ION BY MR. BETZOLD, SECONDED BY MS. GEROU, TO AATOURN THE MEETZf7G. UPON A
VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED T8E FEB. 24, I984, RPPEALS
COAIMISSZON MEETING ADJOURNED RT 8:30 P.M.
Res�ectfully s bmitted,
-{
'l�L ��_�'- lL
Lynn Saba
Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COt1MISSION
PIEETING
FEBRUARY 21, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Svanda called the Feb. 21, 1984, Environmental Quality Canmission
meeting to order at 7:42 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Mem6ers Present
Members Absent
Others Present
Richard Svanda, Maynard Nieison, Bruce Peterson
Tom Gronlund, Wayne Wellan
Bill Deblon, Associate Planner
Ed Hamernik, City Council
Connie Metcalf, 86� Moore Lake Dr,
APPROVAL OF JANUARY ]7, 1984, FNVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMI55ION MINUTES:
MOTZON BY D1R. NZELSON� SECONDED BY MR, PETERSON, TO APPROVE TXE JRN, I7, I984,
ENYIRONJNENTAL pUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES AS [JRZTTEN.
UPON A YOICE VOTE, RLL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SVRNDA DECLAPED THE M02'ION
CRRRIED UNANIASOUSLY,
1. PEPIDING LE6ISLATION ON SOLID WASTE: Connie Metcalf
Mr. Svanda stated Ms. Metcalf was at the meeting to talk to the Commission
about some pending 7egislation on solid waste.
Ms. Metca]f stated she had heard about this bili rather accidentially. It
is Senate 8i17 No. 7312, "A bill for an act relating to solid waste; imposing
a tax on operators of solid viaste disposal facilities; establishing func!s
for abatement, cleanup, ciosure, and postclosure care of solid waste disposal
facilities; providing duties and authority to the pollution control agency;
requiring adopting of rules for closure, postclosure care, and financial
responsibiiity for landfill operators, providing penalties; appropriating
money; proposing new law coded in Minnesota Statutes, Chapter 116".
Ms. Metcalf stated public hearings on this bill wil7 be held on Thurs. and
�'rfi., feb. 23-24, at 3:00 p.m. in Roan 112 of the Capitol Building. After
tfiat, there will be no more testimony taken and the canmittee will either
pass or not pass it.
Ms. Metcalf stated she had talked recently with A1 Kordiak about what Anoka
County was doing about solid waste and where the County was on recycling.
She stated Anoka County has not moved very far. The Landfill Abatement
r
ENVIROt�MENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 21, 1984 PAGE 2
Subcomnittee has kind of reprimanded those counties that have not done
anything. The comment from the Subcomnittee was that the counties should
be encouraging recycling and waste reduction; and, in fact, the Subcommittee
felt the only way the counties would do anything was if they got some money
to do it. This bill seems to 6e that facilitator. It was introduced in
the last session in 1983 and it has been changed.
Ms. Metcalf stated the main substance of the bill is that for every ton of
trash dumped in the landfill, the State will collect $3, and the counties
and cities a1so, are authorized in the biil to assess per ton. The money
will go into a landfi7l abatement fund. It is quite specific in terms of
the perceniage of money that will be used for metropolitan areas and outstate
areas. In Subdivision 7 entitled, "Deposit of Fees", it states: "The fees
charged under tF�is section including interest penalties shall be deposited
in the state treasury and credited as follows: (1) two-thirds of the proceeds
sha71 be deposited in the landfill abatement fund; and (2) one-third of the
proceeds shall be deposited in a landfill contingency action fund."
Ms. Metcalf stated she had mixed feelings about this bill in spite of the
fact that she would like to have some money to build up recycling, curbside
pick-up in Fridley. This bil7 would probably do that.
Ms. Metcalf stated some people say $3/ton is not enough, The trash haulers
are opposing it because they feel they would be tax collectors. John Campion,
writer for the St. Paul Pioneer Press, argued against it after talking to
Barney Qeerman who is tfie head of the trash collectors' TNT organization,
6ecause P1r. Campion feels it is kind of a hidden tax.
Mr. Svanda stated the charge on this would actually go back to the generator,
the homeowner. It was his understanding that the landfill operator, in keep-
ing records, would know how much solid waste was coming in and he would
assume the landfill operator wou7d actually end up paying the treasury and
would collect that through the fees that are charged to the people who are
dumping. So, it would work its way back into the system. It would cost
homeowners something like 10¢-13¢ per month. He understood that some money
will go to the PCA and a like amount to the Metropolitan Council.
Mr. Svanda stated the PCA could use the money for planning grants and grants
and toans for things like resource recovery projects. The same for the
Metropolitan Council. The Metropo7itan Council would deal with the metro-
politan area, and the PGA with the outstate area. Local units of government
could apply for funds; for example, the City of Fridley could perhaps get
funding to help decide what it wanis to do and, once it makes that decision,
to help implement that--a kind of financial incentive.
Ms. Metcalf stated one trash hau]er in the southern end of the state feels
that $3/ton is not enough money. Not_enough money is generated and it should
be more like $10/ton.
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING� FEBRUARY 21, 1984 PAGE 3
Ms. Metcalf stated one concern she had was she did not see any concern for
a fair a7location of money in terms of the metropolitan area versus the
entstate areas. Would it be possible for a large project to get the major
chunk of tfie money?
Ms. Metcalf stated she felt this bill Nas of tremendous importance. She
_ had not seen anything about it in the paper, and she felt it was being
inadequately reported to the people.
Mr. Svanda stated he tended to agree that maybe $3/ton was not enough. He
stated he personally wou7d support this bill. He felt it was a good idea.
and there needs to be programs established that provide some kind of incentive
to local units of government to plan, develop, and implement programs and
appreciate their need to initially, at least, have some start-up money to
help them get going. After they get going, there will probably be sane
revenue generated, depending on the kinds of programs, but they have to get
away from the randomly disposing of wastes into the 7andfi77s. Another
aspect of this is to just establish funding mechanisms to help address
problems that are occurring rigfit now at landfills because of water contamination.
Mr. Hamernik stated he had just becane aware of this bill when he read an
article written by a hauler in the Elk River paper. Of course, the hauler
was not in favor of the bill.
Mr. Hamernik stated that if the bill is going to require the landfill
operators to monitor and report and maintain this for 20 years, it is going
to considerabiy increase the cost of dumping.
Mr. Peterson stated he felt the bi71 was very generali2ed. It talks about
establishing a fund, but how is that fund going to be controlled? Is it
going to go to good use? There is not a lot of definition for the grants.
Ms. Metcalf stated one comnent made by a hauler was that the money gotten
from this will only be enough to set up the bureaucracy to manage it, and
there is some truth to that statement.
Mr. Peterson stated there are no goals outlined in the bil] for obtaining
a certain amount of resource rec�very. Grants can be set up for running
different projects, but what is rea7ly going to be gained in the long run?
What realization for waste reduction is there going to be? If there are no
goals for waste reduction, a project could go on for several years but could
die out unless it is really administered properly and the people are educated
properly.
Ms. Metcalf stated she would like some input from the Commission, either pro
or con.
Mr. Peterson stated he would have no problem with supporting the basic
concept of the bill.
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITV COhT1I5SI0N MEETING, FEBRUARY 21, 1984 PAGE 4
S.
AND
FOR 7AND8
NIELSON, TO RECOMMEND THAT THE
FOR ABAT£-
STATUTES, CXRPTER 215".
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SVANDA DECLARED TNE MOTION
CRRRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
Ms. Metcalf stated she would also like to ask the Comnission's help in
getting the container deposit bill passed. Hopefully, this will also be
passed. A vote is going to be taken on it by Senator Gene Merriam's committee,
and the vote is very close. Jean Crampton, League of Women Voters, who has
been working on this,has urged all in favor of it to send a letter to
Senator Merriam with a copy to Senator pon Frank and/or the Governor. The
Governor has indicated indifferent support.
Ms. Metcalf stated the bill has been amended so it will charge 5� deposit
on every container--plastic, netal, all beer and carbonated beverages, There
will be redemption centers that wil7 get a 1¢ handling fee and the bottles
and cans will be returned to a distributor.
Ms. Metcalf stated this bill has been passed in 9 states, including the
state of New York. She stated that if the Canmission members were in favor
of this bill, she would urge each one to write a letter stating he is in
favor of the Container Deposit Bill, S.F. No. 741, and address the letter to:
Senator Dave Merriam
Capitol Building
St. Paul, Mn. 55155
cc: 5enator pon Frank
Mr. Svanda thanked Ms. Metcalf for coming and bringing these bills to the
Conmission's attention.
2. CONTINUED: COMPOSTING DISCUSSION
Mr. Debton stated that due to a heavy workload, he had been unable to
contact other municipalities in the metropolitan area to see if there were
other sample questionnaires or surveys that have been done regarding
support or lack of support for composting.
Mr. 5vanda stated that since Mr. Deb7on will be leaving the City on Feb. 29,
and Mr. Boardman, City Planner, left the City earlier in February, he had a
very serious concern about the direction of the Environmental Quatity
Commission and all the comnissions because of the lack of staff involvement
ENVIFONMEN7AL QUALITY COHMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 21, 1984 PAGE 5
and staff support. He felt that with the lack of staff involvement and
staff support, the Commission is not going to be able to go forward with
any kind of project. Other commissions will likewise be in the same situation
due to the lack of staff in tfie City.
Mr, Peterson stated he agreed with Mr. Svanda. He did not think the
_ Comnission could function very long without a staff representative and staff
support.
Mr, Svanda stated he wou]d recommend that if the Canmissioners shared this
concern, they should each contact their councilperson and relay this concern
to that councilperson,
3. REVIEW OF HAZAROOUS WASTE ORDINANCE:
Mr, Svanda stated that at the last meeting, he had recommended that Staff
rewrite the ordinance making sure it contained some reference to the state
rules.
Mr, Deblon reviewed the ordinance with the Commission, He stated there was
one definition that still needed defining. He stated there are two types
of waste handling facilities--primary and accessory or secondary (storing,
treating, etc.). They have to distinguish 6etween these two types.
Mr, Svanda stated he would like to see how all the definitions relate to the
Environmental Quality Board's definitions and the definitions in the PCA's
proposed hazardous waste rules. This went along with what he had said
at an earlier meeting--that it is not critical that the City be consistent
or inconsistent with the State's rules, but that they are knowingly consistent
or inconsistent.
Mr, Peterson stated his one concern was that in Section 278.05, Special Use
Permit Application Procedures, #2, it stated that "upon staff reivew of
the application for hazardous waste facilities, the application will be
scheduled for review by the Fridley Environmental Quality Comnission". He
stated that if the Environmental Quality Comnission is going to review and
recomnend to the Planning Commission, they need more information than just
the application.
The Commission members agreed that the ordinance needed to be amended to
incorporate both the primary (principal) and secondary hazardous waste
facilities.
Mr, Svanda stated that this revised draft of the Hazardous Waste Ordinance
was a dramatic improvement over the first draft.
Mr, Deb7on stated he would try to amend this draft and have it ready For
the Canmission at their next meeting.
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETINft FEBRUARY 21, 1984 PAGE 6
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MR. PETERSON� SECONDED BY MR. NIEZSON� TO AA70URN THE MEETING. UPON
A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTING RYP. CHAIRPERSQV SVANDR DECLARED TNE FEB, 2I, Z984,
ENVZRQVMENTAL QURLITY COMMISSION MEETING ADAOURNED AT 9:45 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Lynn Saba
Recording Secretary
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CALL TO ORDER:
CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLAN�JING COMFIISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 29, 1984
Chairwoman Schnabel called the February 29, 1984, Planning Commission meeting
to order at 7:32 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Oquist, Ms. Gabel, P�ir. Nielson (for Mr. Svanda),
Mr. Kondrick, Mr. Goodspeed, Mr. Saba
Meeibers Absent: None
Otl�ers present: John Flora, PubTic Works Director
Jim Robinson, Planning Specialist
Dennis Schneider, City Councilman
Tom Brickner, 6249 Ben More �r.
Marge Brickner, 6249 Ben 14ore Dr.
Curtis A. Larson, 6730 Madison St. N.E.
Dona Larson, 6730 Nadison St. N.E.
(See attached list)
APPROVAL OF FEBRUARY £3, 1984, PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECOl1DED BY MR. SABA� TO APPROVE THE FES. 8� 2984�
PLIINNING COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIP.L'JOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRZED UNANIPIOUSLY,
Mr. Flora stated that both the City Planner, Mr. Boardman, and Associate
Planner, Mr. Deblon, have left the City. He stated he would be filling in
as staff to the Planning Cormnission for a couple of ineetings.
Mr. Flora introduced Jim Robinson, who was now the Planning Specialist. He
stated Mr. Robinson will be working with the Planning Commission sometime in
the future.
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Arthur Streets N.E.
DERATION OF A PRELIMINARY
BRICKNER: Being a replat
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at 66th and
MOTION BY MR. OQUIST� SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK� TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING
ON p.S. N84-01 BY THOMAS BRICKNER.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING RYE� CHAIRWOPIAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TXE PUBLIC
XEARIN6 OPEN AT 7:35 n.M.
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PLANNING COMP1ISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 29 1984 PAGE 3
found by Staff was the question of a park, and the property currently
advocated by Mr, Brickner for the park was inadequate to service the needs
of the neigh6orhood.
Mr. Flora stated the park evisioned by Staff would provide an access from
three sides, but there would be no street tie-in. He stated Staff has
looked at many oth� alternatives, but they feel this alternative provides
for the best use of the property in the planned development.
Ms. Gabel stated that in the Feb, i3, 1984, Parks & Recreation Cor�nission
minutes, there was some discussion with reference to a substandard piece
of }and for a park because of the drainage onto it,
Mr. Flora stated Staff has d�srecarded the southwestern site
because it was a low, wet area.
Ms. Schna6el asked Mr. Brickner if he would like to make some comments.
Mr. Brickner stated that first of all, he wanted to say that he has been a
resident of Fridiey for over 25 years, and he definitely has an interest
in the community. His children have played in city parks, and he did not
�ant it to seem like he was trying to deprive the neighborhood of a park.
He stated he could see several problems with the latest proposal of 2.5
acres for a city park. He stated he is obligated by city ordinance to
donate .938 acres of land. Ne had a litt7e prob7em with that requirement,
too. He stated there is about an acre of land that is in the watershed
area by the creek. He was not so sure that it was his obTigation
to donate TO% of that land, too, because it is undeve7opable 7and. He
believed the .938 acres included that portion of land down in the low land,
The area he has designated for park area is 70% of the whole area inciuding
the low land.
Mr, Brickner stated the 2.5 acres of park land proposed by the City would
be comp7etely surrounded by houses, Where would people coming to the park
in cars park, other than in front of the new houses? Secondly, the 30 ft.
walkway to the park presented somewhat of a problem. The only access to the
park was next to one of his new proposed houses, so there would be no way
to come off the street, other than a7ongside some new houses. When the park
was planned in the southwestern corner, he had planned six lots around a
nice cul-de-sac. One lot would be adjacent to the park. Now, all of a
sudden, the City wants nine lots adjacent to the park. He would have eight
lots on Arthur St. versus four lots on Arthur St. Ne thought everyone at
the meeting would agree with him that lots on a cul-de-sac were more
desirable and more saleable than lots on Arthur St, From his standpoint,
these were the problems he saw with the 2.5 acres of choice land going for
a park,
Mr. Brickner stated there are some future deueloproents to tfie �est, He
stated he and Staff discussed a lot of different 7ayouts including the low
lots. He had proposed one iayout that he thought was very nice, It was
PLANNIIJG COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 29; 1984 PAGF. 5
�r. 5aba asked why some area from the Gena-Rae Addition couldn't be
developed into some park property with some kind of canpromise between
Mr. Brickner and the City Park Dept.
Mr. Flora stated that was possible, but right now the property in the
Gena-Rae Addition is not available. There is a current plat in the Gena-
Rae Addition for a cul-de-sac off Mississippi St, with the intention of
a number of lots off the cul-de-sac. The other vacant property is currently
just open lots.
Ms. Schnabe7 asked if there were any comments from people in the audience.
Mr. Ken Moxness, 7604 - 66th Ave. N.E., stated he would suggest the Planning
Commission not take any action on this plat at this meeting. There was no
rush ihat it be acted on at this meeting. He stated this is the first
school property to be sold in the demolished state and not to be used assa
school or a public building. This is the first school iand where the play-
ground equipment is not goin� to be available to the children. He stated
there are probabiy around 300-400 children within walking distance of this
playground. The children are used to hav�ng access to this playground and
lts equipment, The children have been ab7e to go over and look down on the
Creek. It is an edmirable public access to the Rice Creek area. He stated
access to the creek area here is not only for the children, but for all the
residents of Fridley. He would Tike to see the park on the edge of the
precipice overlooking Rice Creek. He stated the chi7dren are losing their
school and now there is a chance they will be losing their playground. He
fe7t the children should gain by having the nice part of the property.
Mr. Curtis Loschy, 1399 - 66th Ave. N.E., stated his lot was adjacent to
the school property so he was familiar with the playground usage. The pro-
posed p7an by the City would not include the usable portion of the present
tennis court, so the tennis court would still have to be moved. The tennis
court is only about three years old. Regarding Rice Creek, he was the
chairperson for the Fridley portion of the bikeway/walkway trail for Anoka
County. He stated he has walked the Creek extensively, and there was no
possi6ility of access to the creek be� from the school property. There was
a c7iff with a sharp drop-off, so without a major canstruction effort, that
area would not be usable for anything,
Mr. Loschy stated he has looked at Mr, Hrickner's layout at the �earings
�ith the School @oard. As a neighbor, he found the use of the Tand very
p7easing. It would be going back on the tax roles. As far as the present
park, they would certainly like to see a larger park, This area not only
services everyone east of Old Central, but it also services a large area
that is west of O1d Central. There is a considerable amount of foot traffic
that comes down 66th Ave, and ❑ti7izes this area, not only for tennis, but
also for the playground equipment. The neighborhood would like to see more
park access. So, he would rea7ly like to see t�e City look into the possi-
bility of acquiring some of the open land in the Gena-Rae Addition.
PLANNItdG COM�4ISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 29 1984 PAGE 7
agree that it is the kind of development the City wants. The point made
about acquiring some land in the Gena-Rae Addition or somewhere else in the
immediate area was an excellent idea. However, it was his understanding
that there was not a wil7ing se7ler. Whatever t�ey do, it is imperative
they time it so they do not lose this whole property and then at some time
in the future try to develop a park. They have to put something together
with Mr. Brickner's development. Ne stated he would urge the Planning
Comnission to take thes e points into consideration.
Mr. Richard Johnson, 6536 Arthur St. N.E., stated the only park they have
on the south side of Rice Creek is the school property. Harris Park has
a picnic table and that is no park. He stated Mr. Brickner is a good
builder and a fine gentleman, but let them keep their park so their children
have a place to p7ay.
Mr, Robert Thayer, 6051 - 6th St. N.E., stated he would like to see a usable
park area, but he thought the proposal made by the City had some real problems.
If they put in a parking 7ot to provide space for people driving to the park,
that would 6e a very poor use of land. It would make more sense to situate
the park so it faces onto a street so people can park on the street. Another
problem with the City's proposal is it is very difficult to walk to the park
without going through one or two of the little corridors they have provided.
Instead, people will be walking through someone's yard. He thought the access
to the park was very poor and the park was probably not usable to the neiqhbor-
hood, but only to the homes that will face onto the park.
Mr. Thayer stated the idea of putting the park on the creek was ridiculous
as that area is just too dangerous. He believed the s�hool had put up a
fence because of the dan9er to the children. He stated the value of the
development certainly depended upon how attraciive it is to possible home
buyers. He thought Mr. Brickner's proposal was much more attract�ve to
home buyers; therefore, the value of the land will be higher, and the taxes
to the City will be higher. This is something the Commission sho�7d also
consider.
MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARZDIG
ON�pS #84-OI BY THOMAS SRICKNER.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRFJOMAN SCHNABEL bECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARSNG CLOSED AT 8:56 P,M.
Mr. Dquist stated there is a definite need to maintain a park for the
neighborhood in this area. If the park is to be maintained in this area,
it should be maintained as a nei hborhood park. Ne did not think it was
fair that one builder had to provi e a the acreage for the park when there
are adjacent properties that Vaili be developed in the future. Access to
the park was an excellent point, because peop7e will be cutting through
peop7e's yards to get to the park. He did not think the proposal by the
City was a very viable proposal. He thought there were some �etter pians
that would make better use of the land and sti11 get a sizable park. He
stated it has been pointed out that the tennis court would have to be moved
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 29, 19II4 PAGE 9
Ms. Schnabel stated it seemed to be the concensus of the Planning Commission
and the neighborhood that the park be on a street or have some good
public access. The City's plan did not meet those needs and would not be
acceptable.
Mr. Flora stated Staff has looked at a number of alternatives, but they
are willing to work more with Mr, Brickner on other.alternatives and bring
something back to the next Planning Commission meeting. 7he�r primary
concern is that they come up with a plan that will allow for the ultimate
deve7opment of al7 the properties. As Mr. Schneider had said, their goal
is to provide a park now and not for a park that will develop in stages.
Mr, Goodspeed stated there needed to be at least 2.5 acres for a park, and
they needed that acreage now. He did not see where it was more fair to
take park land from two developers or all of it from one deveToper. It was
noi fair either way. They Just shou7d�do whatever needs to be done to get
a decent park.
MOTION BY MR. SABA, SECONDED BY MS. GABEL, TO TABLE SHE PUBLIC HEARING Otl
CONSIDERATION OF PAELIMINARY PLAT, P.S, �}84-01, CREEKRIDGE, BY TFIOMISS BRICKNER,
UNTIL THE MARCH 14� I984� PLAPTNING COMMISSION MEETING� AT Y7HICH TIME THE
COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOA1E OTHER VIABLE SOLUTSONS FOR THE LOCATION
OF THE CITY PARK.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CBAIRPIOMAN SCXNABEL DECLARED THE�MOTTON
CARRIED UNANIMOU5LY.
2. VACATION REQUEST, SAV #84-OI�BY CURTIS LARSON: Vacate 67th Avenue N.E.
a ��acent to Lot 1, B1ock 2, Oak Ridge A di�tion, to make a new building site
at 6994 Fridley Street N,E.
Mr, Flora stated this was a vacation request by Mr. Larson in order to
provide about a 9,000 sq, ft, parcel of property. Ne stated there are
currently two cul-de-sacs in the area--one on Anoka Street and one on
Fridley Street. This property would abut the exisiing cul-de-sac on
Fridley St. and the vacation of the 30 ft. platted 67th Ave.
Mr. Flora stated Staff did notify ail the utilities to see if there were
any problems w9th the vacation of the street, and ihey received two
responses. NSP has att overhead line running from the rear of the property
line across Lot 1 to a street light at the north side of the cu]-de-sac on
Fridley St. NSP is asking for a 5 ft, utility easemeni aiong the south and
easterj.y property lines of Lot 1, Block 2, NSP will then mpve their line
to that easement.
Mr. Flora stated that on Anoka St. and Fridley St., the City has two water
lines which essentially deadend at the cul-de-sacs. If the vacation is
approved, Staff would like to maintain a 10 ft. easement along the southerly
and westerly boundaries so the City has the option of putting in a water line
from Fridley Si, over to Anoka St. to provide a future loop to that system.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 29, 1984 PAGE 17
5. RECEIVE FEBRUARY 13 1984 PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSTON MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK, 5ECOND�b BY b1R. GOODSPEED, TO RECEIVE THE FEB. 33, I984,
PARKS & RECREATION COMMI5SION MINUTES.
UPON A VOSCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THS MOSION
CARRSED UNANIMOU5LY.
6. RECEIVE FEBRUARY 14 1984 APPEAIS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS. GABEL, SECONDED BY Mlt. SABA, TO RECEZVE THE FEB. 14� 1984,
APPEALS COMMSSSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARAIED UNANIMOUSLY.
7. RECEIVE FEBRUARY 21, 1984, ENVIRONMENTAL SUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. NSELSON, SECONDED SY M5. GABEL, TG RECEIVE TXE FEB. 2,I, 1984,
APPEALS COMMIS520N MSNUTES.
Mr. Nielson stated the Environmental Quality Commission wou]d like the
Pianning Commission to concur with a motion on page 4 of their minutes
supporting the concept of Senate File No. 1312, "A bill for an act relating
to so]id a�aste disposai facilities, establishing funds for abatement,
cleanup, closure, and postclosure care of solid waste disposal facilities,
providing duties and authority to the pollution control aqency, requiring
adoption of rules for closure, postclosure care, and financial responsibiiity
for landfill operators; providing penalties; appropriating money; propasing
new law coded in Minnesota Statutes, Chapter 116".
UPON A VOTCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIP.W�h1AN SCHNRBEL DECLARED TNF. MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. �
MOTION BY MR. NIELSON TO CONCUR WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION
AND SO RECOMMEND THAS THE CITY COUNCIL SUPPORS THE CONCEPT OF SENATE FILE
N0. I312.
THE MOTION DSED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Ms. Schna�el stated she felt it was the concensus of the Planning Commission
members that they did not vote on this motion because they had just received
a copy of the bill at this meeting and did not have enough knowTedge to
recommend a"yes" or "no" to the City Council,
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 29 1984 PAGE 12
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MR. SABA, SECONDED BY NII2. GOODSPEED, TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. UPON
A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIXWOMAN SCflNABEL DECLAIZED THE FEB. 29, 1984,
PLANNING COMMZSSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 10:45 P,M.
Respectfully subm�
Lyn Saba
Recording Secretary
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 29 1984 PAGE 10
Mr. Flora stated that in reviewinq Mr, Larson's proposal as submitted,
the 35 ft. setback off the cul�de-sac would require either the building
to be moved back or some variance for the corner of ihe garage.
Mr. Larson stated he is in the process of purchasing this property with
the option that he wi17 be able to build on the property. He stated it
would be satisfactory with him to move tfie house back, but they are already
only 23 ft. from the back lot line. The distance from the vacated alley
to the house is 23 ft.
Mr. Fiora stated 28 ft, is required for a rear yard setback, so hir. Larson
would require a variance for the rear yard setback,
MOTION BY MR, KONDRICK� SECONbED BY MR. OQUIST� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COZ7NCIL
APPROVAL OF VACATION REQUEST� SAV H84-02, SY CURSIS LARSON� TO VACATE
67TH AVE. N.E., ADJACENT TO IAT 1, BLCCK 2, OAK RIDGE ADDITION, TO MAKE A
NEW BUILDING 5TTE AT 6994 FkIbLEY ST. N.E., F7ISH THE FOLLOWING STIPULASIONS:
1. A 5 FT. .UTILITY EASEMENT BE RETAINEb ALONG THE SOUTH � E�1ST PROPERTY
LINE OF LOT l, BL(7CK 2.
2. A 10 FT. UTILITY EASEMENT BE RETAINED ALONG THE SOUTHERLY AND
GIESTERLY BOUNDARIES.
3, SUBJECT TD THE RECEIPT OF THE 5URVEY, AND THAT THE VACATED PORTION
OP 67TH BE COMBINED W£TH LOT 1, BLOCK 2, OAK RIDGE ADDITTDN AND
RECORDED WITH THE COUNTY BY THE LANDOWNER.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTSNG AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED SHE MOSION
CARRIED UNANIMOU5LY.
Ms. Schnabel stated the City Council wouTd set the pubiic hearing on the
vacation request at their March 12th meeting.
3. RECEIVE JANUARY 24 1984 ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. 5ABA, 5ECONDED BY MR, KONDRICK, TO I2ECEIVE THE JAN. 24, I984,
ENERGY COMMZSSZON MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE T�OTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN 5CXNABEL DECLARED THE MOSSON
CARZZSED UNANIMOU5LY,
4. RECEIUE FEBRUARY 2, 1984, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR, GOODSPEED, SECONDED BY MR. OQUSST, TO RECEIVE THE FEB. 2, 1984,
HUMAN RE50URCE5 COMMISSION MINUTE5,
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNRBEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. �
PLANNING COMMI55ION MEETING, FEBRUARY 29, 1984 PAGE 8
anyway so that was not a factor in the consideration of where the park
should be.
Mr. 5aba stated he would like to see the City make a good attempt at
obtaining some property from the Gena-Rae Addition for park land. He
agreed that the tota7 park land should not be the burden on one developer.
He also agreed that the City did not need another .9 acre park. They
needed a nice planned park. There needed to be some kind of compromise,
and maybe the whole plat should be looked at in a different way with the
other vacant properties in mind,
Ms. Gabel stated she has had a lot of opportunites to be in this neighbor-
hood and she has heard a lot of complaints about the fact that there is no
city parE;. She stated this may be the City's only opportunity to do it
right. If they do not get what they need for the entire neighborhood at
this time, they may indeed wind up with a little piece here, a little piece
there, etc., and that obviously is not what they want for this neighborhood.
She thought they should work on trying to get something better than what
the City has proposed and do it right so they do not have to look back on
this as another mistake like some of the otfier parks in the City that do not
service the needs of a neighborhood.
Mr. Kondrick stated he agreed with everything that has been said. He stated
Mr. 6rickner is a fine deve7oper. He stated tfiat, in addition to the 24
homes in Mr. Brickner's proposal, there are many other homes that will
suffer if they make too quick a decision on this. The park use is heavy
now and will get heavier as more families move into the area. He also did
not like to see one developer have to take the responsibility for all the
park space. Ne felt that something couTd be worked out that wouTd he
better than the proposai made by the City.
Mr. Goodspeed stated he was also in favor of going back to the drawing
board and trying to come up with some other alternatives.
Ms. Schnabel stated each of the Planning Commission members had made a
point she could concur with. As a Planning Commission member, she liked
to look at things in terms of vacant land and not Took at things that
may influence their thinking. She stated it is not fair to expect the
whole park land for this whoie area to primarily come out of one plot,
She felt there should be an effort made on behalf of the City to acquire
some additional property so that adequate park land can be developed for
the neighborhood before a final proposal is made for this particular piece
of property. She felt the Planning Commission wou7d be ne9ligent of their
duty to say they would take little pieces in different p7aces. She stated
that is not fn tne best interest of the City. The PTanning Commission would
like the City to work on this again and try to come up with a more viable
proposai.
Mr. Brickner stated the timeframe was critical, because he wanted the plat
fina7ized so he cou7d build during this construction season.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 29 1984 PAGE 6
Mr. Richard �ohnson, 6536 Arthur St. N.E., stated that if the park was put
on the back lots that are about 5 ft. lower than the schoo7 property, would
the City fill that up and leave the lot to the east 7ow so a71 the water
wou]d run down onto his property? Also, if there was going to be a parking
lot by the park, that parking lot �ould be by his bedroom. He stated traffic
is very heavy now, especially in the summer with the use of the ballfield.
He stated the park should be moved out onto Arthur St.
Mr, plora stated that right now there are no plans to do anything with the
drainage. He stated that, regarding the parking lot, there is the possi-
bility of providing some access to the proposed park with some parking,
but they do not know where it would be at t�is time.
Mr, Roland Tacharias, 1837 - 66th Ave. N.E., stated that the City shou7d do
some work in trying to see if some more land could be obtained from the
Gena-Rae Addition.
�r. Brickner stated he could not understand why, if everyone on the staff,
the neighbors, and Mr, Schneider have known that three acres were needed
for a park, that wasn't in the proposal when he bought the land. The City
of Fridley had his preliminary proposal for two monihs before he bought
the land. Everything was fine then. It was not until he bouyht the
property that he found the City wanted 2z-3 acres and it all has to cane out
of one area. He stated obtaining some land in the Gena-Rae Addition where
there is no development would solve the problems for everyone involved.
He wanted to emphasize that using prime building lots for park 7and was not
in the best interest of anyone. As a taxpayer, he would iike to see the
best use of the land and the most revenue coming back to the City through
taxes.
Mr. Herb Bacon, 159 Logan Parkway, stated parks seem to go tht�ough cycles.
For example, they have Logan Park, and it is hardly being used now. He
stated he personally felt they should concentrate on what they have got,
take whatever they can get, and put the money toward those parks,
Mr. Schneider stated he has 6een in this neighborhood a number of times,
even prior to being on the City Council. One of the things he has always
heard before he was eTected Councilman was t�e inadequacy of the parks in
this area. He did work toward putting the tennis court there 3-4 years
ago. At that time, he felt it was worth it. He stated he felt there was
a need for an adequate park--something that will service Anoka St., Fridley
St., Arthur St., Mr. Brickner`s proposed development, the undeveloped areas,
the Rice Creek townhouses and some other areas. Somewhere they need some
adequate space. Dr. Boudreau, the Parks & Recreation Director, estimated
t�at, according to national standards, about three acres would be needed to
service the entire area. Fridley tends to not meet national standards with
most of its parks.
Mr. Schneider stated that, on the other side of it, Mr, Brickner is a
fantastic developer for the area, and they were very 7ucky that he chose to
put through a proposal. He thought most people in the neighborhood would
PLANNIWG COMMISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 29 1984 PAGE 4
taking ,938 acres from his property in the southwestern corner, abutting
the Gena-Rae Addition; then as the Gena-Rae Addition property developed,
it could become part of the park system and, as the need arose, it couTd
grow into the 2.5 acres. He would develop the .938 acres and whoever
deveToped the vacant property would do their part. He stated he thouqht
lt was a shame to gfve up choice buildable lots wfien the park equipment
could 6e moved,
Mr. Brickner stated that when he purchased the property, he had intended
to have a nice development. He thought that with the park system as proposed
by the City, it would not be the development he had originally anticipated.
Another factor V�as that by putting the park in the middle of the deveTopment,
there are no street assessments against the City of Frid7ey Park �epartment,
because it has no road frontage whatsoever. He stated he has not seen any
other parks in the City of Frid7ey that were completely surrounded by
houses with no street frontage.
Mr. Goodspeed asked what kind of use would go on in the city park,and what
kind of use was there right now on the school property.
Mr. Flora stated that currently, there is a tennis court, a basketball court,
a hockey rink, and a baseball field. The city park would essentially uti-
lize the tennis court, the basketball court, hockey would continue, there
would be a tot lot, a passive p7ay area, and a neighborhood ball park. So,
the usage would be essentially the same as it was right now.
Mr. Goodspeed asked what could be done about the car situatron.
Mr. Flora stated that when they laid this development out, there was a
possibilfty of of putting a drive on the southern end of the park off
Arthur Street, with a parkinn area.
Mr. Flora Stated that, again, from the three parce7s of undeveloped land,
about two acres of park ]and would be required. The Park Department
Director feel that three acres is a good-sized park, so the City would be
required to acquire some land above and beyond the 10% requirement to satisfy
the three acre need. Looking long range at .938 acres on the Rice Creek
property, and small parcels in the other undeveloped properties, it was
not 9oing to provide the facilities they feel they need to service the
neighborhood. If there is going to be a park, the staff feels there
should be a total park they can plan for and that wil] provide the facilities
they feel are appropriate for the neighborhood.
Mr. Schneider stated he would like to make two clarifications: (1) He
stated Mr. Brickner is only required to give the City..938 acres for park
land, He stated the City is not talking about just taking more land. There
would be negotiations with Mr. Brickner and Mr. Bricker would be compensated
for any additional land. (2) The proposed park would do more than just
service this development and the future development of the other undeveloped
areas. It also has to service all of Arthur St., Anoka St., and Fridley St.
,
PLANNIWG COMMISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 29 1984 PAGE 2
Mr. Flora stated they have received a request from Mr. Brickner for a
preliminary plat for the Creekridge area, essentially the Rice Creek
School property. Mr, Brickner has an option to purchase that property
from Scfiool Dist. 14 and develop it as R-1 residentiai housing.
Mr, Flora stated Mr. Brickner's plat identifies a total of 29 residential
properties which would conform to city code and, as identified, a five-lot
section of about .9 acres for a city park development.
Mr, Flora sta�ed that City Code, Chapter 211, requires that 10% of any large
plat be dedicated for a park, or like amount of money. 5ince there has
been a lot of use of the park equipment on the school property by the
residents (tennis court, baseball field, basketball court, hockey) in the
neighborhood, Staff felt there was a need for a park in this area. The
closest park is at Harris Lake. He stated Staff also had a prob7em with
a parcel of only .9 acres in that it was relative7y small and would not
provide enough space to provide the services that are necessary for the
neighborhood.
�+Ir. Flora stated Staff looked at the entire area between Central Avenue,
Stinson Blvd., Rice Creek and Mississippi Street. The area is relative-
ly developed, except for three parcels of undeveloped land. These are, the
Rice Creek School property, the C�ena-Rae Addition and a portion of property
adjacent to the Gena-Rae Addition. In looking at the total area, Staff
felt they could, throu9h the subdivision ordinance, obtain around 1.8 to
1.9 acres of city park from all of this development to support the neigh-
borhood. The Parks & Recreation Director would prefer something closer to
3 acres, as this would be an adequate size to provide tennis, basketball,
baseball, outdoor recreation, and a tot lot> for this neighborhood.
Accordingly, they have continued to study the Brickner plat to designate
a park of 2 1/2 acres and still provide Mr. Brickner with 22 buidable lots,
a reduction from the 24 ]ots he originally had in his proposal. It was
thought that the City would purchase the two additional lots from Mr. Brickner.
Mr. Flora stated Mr. Brickner has some feelings about having a park directly
to the rear of his development, but the City feels that if a park is to be
provided in this neighborhood, the less than one acre provided by this plat
would not provide sufficient space and would not provide for the services
needed by the neighborhood.
Ms. Schnabel stated that other than the park property in question, were
there any other staff concerns in terms of the plat as proposed?
Mr. Flora stated, no, Staff has no problem with the plat as proposed. It
ties in with the existing 66th Ave. and forms a 14op onto Arthur St.,
which will provide relatively good lots. The proposal for either a cul-de-sac
or a continuation of a road into the property which may be developed to the
west, provides sane flexibility for future development. The only concern
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