PL 03/28/1984 - 6832PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
City of Fridley
A G E N D A
WEDNESDAY, MARCH 28, 1984
APPROVE PLANNIN6 COMMISSIOPI MINUTES: MARCH 14, 1984
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PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT, P.S. #84-�2, HIDDEN
WOODS, BY THOMAS E. BLOMBERG: Being a replat of the
Southerly 33 feet of Lot 6, along with Lot 7, except the
South 5 feet of the West l50 feet and except the East
100 feet of the West 250 feet; along with all of Lot
13, all in Revised Auditor's 5ubdivision No. 10, generally
located in the 6500 Block of Central Avenue.
IC HEARING: REZONING REOUEST_ ZOA #84-
t. �s�uM�tn�: xezone the tasterly [uU teet ot the westerly
250 feet of Lot 7, Revised Auditor's Subdivision No. 10,
from C-2 (general business) and R-2 (two family dwellings),
to R-1 (one family dwellings), and rezone from R-2 (two
family dwellings) to R-1 (one family dwellings} the
South 33 feet of the East 168 1/2 feet of the Westerly
218 1/2 feet of Lot 6, Revised Auditor's Subdivsion No. 16.
& REQEVEL�PMENT
4. RECEIUE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES: MARCH
15, 1984
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6. OTHER BUSINESS:
ADJOURNMENT:
SPECIAL
7:30 P.M.
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WHITE
PINK
SALMON
CITY Of fRIDLEY
PLANNING COP1MI55ION MEETING, MARCH 14, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairwoman Schnabel called the March 14, 1984, Planning Co�nission meeting to
order at 7:34 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: M5. Schnabel, Mr. Oquist, Ms. 6abe1, Mr. Svanda, P1r. Saba,
Ms. Schreiner (for Mr. Kondrick), Mr, Goodspeed
Members Absent: None
Others Present: John Flora, Public lJorks Director
Jim Robinson, Planning Specialist
Dennis Schneider, City Council
Tom Brickner, 6249 Ben More Drive
Don Shelley, 7331 Baker St. N.E.
Milt Sigel, Display Arts, Inc.
�ames Randers, Display Arts, Inc.
John Dunphy, 155 Stonybrook Way
(See attached list)
APPROVAL OF FEBRUARY 29, 1984, PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
MO^ION BY 1fR. OQUISP� SECONDED BY l�fFi. GABEL, TO APPP.OS'E TXE FEB. 29� I984�
PLr1NNZNG COMMISSION MINUTES AS 4TRITTEtJ,
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIR�90MAN SCHNRBEL DECLARED THL' MOTZON
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. TABLE�: PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A PRELIMINARV PLAT, P.S. #8
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K1u�t �r irlurtAS �KiLKritrt: t3eing a repiat ot �ots z, �, ana 5,
or s Sub ivision No. 0, generally located at 66th and Arthur Streets PI.E.
Ms. Schnabel stated that Mr. Brickner would not be able to attend the meeting
until 8:30 p.m. She stated that the Planning Commission would proceed with
their agenda unti] that time.
Per 5ection ZUb.I/.I, C (
ment, on Lots 25, 26, 27,
7331 Baker Street N.E.
PERMIT, SP #84-01 BY DONLYN MANUFACTURING:
to allow outside storage of materia and equip-
ock 1, Nagel's Woodlands, the same being
MOTIDN BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� '11� OPEN TXE PUBLIC HERRSNG ON
SP N84-OZ BY DONLYN MANUFACTURING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRYIOHAN SCNNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLZC
XEARING OPEN RT 7:36 P.M.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 14, 1984 PAGE 2
Mr. F1ora stated this property was located just to the east of Baker St.
and north of 73rd Ave. in the Nagel's Woodlands Division. It consists of 3
parcels, Lots 25, 26 and 27, The request is to place a storage buildinq
in an t4-1 zone which requires a special use permit.
Mr, flora stated Staff has reviewed this request and has identified five
items they feel are important to bring to the Planning Commission's attention:
1. The three parcels should be combined into one parcel for
tax purposes.
2. The surface water drainage in this area needs to be addressed
since that water does go into Rice Creek. This would be an ideal
time to deal with surface water in this area before it is deposited
into the storm sewer system which eventually flows into Rice Creek.
3. Screening would be required in order to provide a visible,
attractive appearance from 73rd and Baker.
4. 7he storage area should be hard surfaced so the drainage is
contro7led and not a lot of materials are eroded into the storm sewer.
5. Landscaping improvements along Baker St.
The petitioner, Don Shelley, was in the audience.
Ms. Schnabel asked what materials would 6e stored in this bu9lding an� why
the building �as needed.
Mr, SheTley stated he was going to rent the building out. The renter would
be storing new steel products for resale.
Mr. LeRoy Salzbrun stated he would be renting the building. The reason he
wanted to store his products here is because there are a lot of items and
jobs Mr, Shelley takes care of, and he needed a handy place for stora9e. He
stated fie would want to fence the area and will put in a cTass 5 so they
can travel in that area.
Ms. Schnabei asked Mr. Shelley what he thought of the five stipulations
Mr. Flora had out7ined.
Mr. Shelley stated he would not 7ike to see the three parcels combined into
one parcel for tax purposes. He believed the three parcels were taxed as
two parcels now. Lots 25 and 26 are one parcel and Lot 27 is one parcel by
itself. As far as hard surfacing, Mr. Salbrun is responsible for all the
improvements.
Mr. Shelley stated that as far as drainage, this area is all white sand. There
is no standing water; it all seeps away by•itself. There is a ditch there
now, and all the water runs into the ditch automatically.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 14 1984 PAGE 3
Mr. Flora stated it was Staff's concern that with a large area being devoted
to storage, there will be some surface water running off; therefore, they
feel it is necessary to have some type of detention facility so that any
materials will be filtered out before going into the drainage system, The
ditch goes into the City's storm sewer s.ystem which goes into Rice Creek.
The City property owner shbuld be doing something to ensure that their water
quality if being maintained. The City wants to be sure the water leaviRg
the property is of no lesser quality than rainwater.
Ms. Schnabel stated a special use permit is granted only to the property
itself; consequently, the owner, so the items the City is requesting are
the responsibility of the owner and not the renter of the building. She
did not think they had had this situation before where the renter was maki�g
a71 the improvements.
Mr, flora stated he felt the items being requested are the responsibility of
the owner. How those things are accomplished is between the owner and the
renter. However, the property owner is responsible if these improvemcnts are
not made by the renter.
Ms. Schreiner stated her concern would be what type of materia7s could be
stored here in the future if Mr. Salzbrun was no longer the renter.
Mr. Oquist asked Mr. Flora why Staff felt the three parcels should be can-
bined into one parce7 for tax purposes.
Mr. Flora stated this was the recommendation fro� the Assessing Dept., that
tis tryina to identify all properties by the properties' uses, and it was
much easier to control the property if it is all under one tax parcel. The
protection the City would have by the combination of Lhese parcels would be
that this parcel, being a separate item, could be sold and, therefore, a
new buyer could come in with a request for a variance to build something.
The Gity is then in the position of having a situation where there is an
existing use that is not in accordance with city codes.
By identifying the three parcels as one parcel, many of
tne stipulations like setbacks and requirements are not necessary, If the
parcels are separated, the City would have to look at setbacks, access, etc.
Mr. Shelley stated he just did not tfiink fie wanted to combine all the parcels
into one parcel.
MOTION BY MR. OQUIST� SECONDED BY AII2. GOODSPEED� TO CLOSE TXE PUBLZC HEARIlIG
ON SP #84-01 BY DONLYN MANUFACSURING.
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNRBEL DECLARED TNE PUBLIC
HEARING CLOSED AT 8:05 P.M.
Mr. Saba stated he felt the stipulation of combining the three parcels into
one parcel should be something between the City and the owner of the property and
not necessarily a condition of this special use permit, There may be some
advantages for the owner to combine them. Apparently, any kind of tax increase
PLANNIP�G COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 14 1984 PAGE 4
would be the resu7t of the use of the property and not because the
property is beinq combined.
Mr. Svanda stated he would agree with that. 7his should be a private dis-
cussion between t6e property owner and the City and not be a part of the
special use permit.
Ms. Gabel stated she would also agree, even though she understood the
position Staff was taking,
Ms. Schreiner, Mr. Oquist, and Mr. Goodspeed also agreed.
Mr, Goodspeed stated that regarding the surface water drainage, he felt that
should be taken care of now. Even though the owner has the best intentions
at this time, no one knows what is going to happen two or more years from
now.
Mr. Oquist agreed the drainage issue needed to be addressed, because they
are taking a majority of the property and putting a hard surfaced area on
it. He was in agreement with the otfier four stipuTations outlined by
Mr. Flora.
Ms. Schnabel stated it appeared the only stipulation the Planning Commission
did not support was the legal requirement.
Ms. Schreiner stated she saw no problem with this particular storage, but
she would not like to see any kind of more hazardous storage. If there was
ever a different renter in the future, she would like to see the type of
storage addressed.
Mr. Oquist stated the Commission could ask Staff to review the special use
permit on a yearly basis.
Mr. Flora stated that, as he understood it, some of the materials stored
here would be used for Mr. Shelley's manufactured product. Maybe the
Planning Commission would want to say that the material stored in this
building would be incidental to the principle use of the property. This
would preclude storage of some material that would have nothing to do with
Mr. She7ley's metal production,
MOTION BY MR, SRBA� SECONDED BY MR. OQUZST� 2l7 RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUEST� SP I�B4-01 BY DONLYN MANUFACTURING�
PER SECTION 205.17�2� C(8)� TO ALIA47 OUTSIDE S2L�RAGE OF MATERIRL AND EQUZP-
MENT ON LOTS 25, 26, 27� BLOCK 1, NAGEL'S WOODLANDS, THE SRMF,' BEING
7331 BRICER STREET N.E.� WITH TXE FOLLOF/2NG STIPULATIONS:
I, THE SURFRCE WATER DRAINAGE BE ADDRESSED IN THIS RRER.
2. SCREENING BE REpUIRED IN ORDER TD PF.OVIDE A VISIBLE, ATTRACTII7E
RPPEARANCE FROM 73RD AND BAKER STREET N.E, .
3. THE STORAGE AREA BE HARD SURFACED SO DRAINRGE IS CONTROLLED.
4. Z,ANDSCAPING SMPRO.YEMENTS TO SCREEN PARKING RLONG BAXER ST, N.E.
UPON A VOSCE VOTE� ALL VOTSNG AYE� CHASRPERSON SCHNABEL DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY,
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ailey souLn or w ���, ����
Street, south of the alley.
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BY DISPLAY ARTS, INC.: Vacate the 12'
, naway, an t e a ance of Gumwood
Mr. Flora stated this is a request to vacate the existing alley and a little
portion of 6umwood St. remaining north of 77th. The City has been working
with the three property owners involved in order to resolve the construction
of the alley and the street vacation, He stated that included in the aqenda
was a letter of intent to enter into an agreement between Action Pattern Co.
and Display Arts, IRC. If the vacation is approved, it is the intention of
Display Arts, Inc., to blacktop one-half of Gurmvood St. adjoining the
Rycoline Property et 51 N.E. 77th Way,which is being purchased by Display
Arts,and to blacktop the alley in conjunction with Action Pattern Co.
Mr. Flora stated they have contacted the utility companies about this vaca-
tion request. Northwestern Bell requires an easement down the alley.
Minnegasco requira an easement over the westerly one-half of all that part
of Gumwood St. proposed to be vacated. NSP would like to retain some access
on Gumwood St. in order to maintain their facilities.
Mr. Flora stated Staff is requesting the Planning Comnission consider the
foliowing seven stipulations with this vacation request:
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Filing of agreement between Display Arts, Inc., and Action Pattern
Co. with the County.
Execution of a new lot description with the City Assessors for
parcels now being established.
10 ft, utility easement down the alley for Northwestern Bell
10 ft. utility easement 6etween Gumwood and 77th for Minnegasco line
Access agreement for NSP to service their lines
Landscaping required for property along 77th Ave.
Payment of outstandin9 assessments for parcel on the corner of
77th and Beech St.
The petitioners, Mr, Milt Sigel and Mr. James Randers, of Display Arts, Inc.,
were in the audience.
Mr. Sigel stated it was their intent to eventually purchase a little more
property from Park Construction and add onto the west side of the building.
They were hoping that until that time, they could teave the property as it
is now as far as 7andscaping. They would hate to do some landscaping now
and then later have to change it.
Mr. Flora suggested Mr. Sigel and Mr. Randers come in and discuss the land-
scaping with Staff.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 14, 7984 PAGE 6
MOTZON BY MR. OQUIST, SECONDED BY MS. SCHRESNER, TD RECCLNMEND � CITY COUNCZL
APPROVAL OF VACATION REQUEST, SAV #84-02, BY DISPLAY ARTS, INC.� SO VACATE
THE 12' ALLEY SOUTft OF LOT II� BLOCK 6� ONRWAY� AND THE BALANCE OF G[TMWOpD
STREET� SDUTH OF THE ALLEY� WSTH THE FOLZ4WING STIpULATIONS:
I. FILING OF AGREEMENT BETYIEEN DISPLAY ARTS, INC., AND
ACTION PATTERN CO. WZTH THE COUNTY.
2, EXECUTIDN OF A NEW LDT DESCRZPTION WITH THE CZTY ASSESSOR FOR
PARCELS NOW BEING ESTABLZSHED.
3. IO FT. UTILITY EASEMENT DOWN TNE ALLEY FOR NORTHWESTERN BELL
4. IO FT. UTILITY EASEMENT BETf✓EEN GUMWOOD ST, AND 77TH FOR
MINNEGASCO LINE
5, ACCESS AGREEMENT FOR NSP 71� SERVICE TNEIR LINES
6. LANDSCAPZNG REQUIRED FOR PRpPERTY RIANG 77TH AVE.
7. PAYMENT OF OUTSTANDING ASSESSMENTS FOR PRRCEL ON THE CORNER
OF 77TH AND BEECH ST.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOISRN SCHNAB£L DECLIIRF,D THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
4. TABLED: PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERAT
uti�r irtumk5 t5K1(,KIVtK: t5e111J a repiat or �ots [, s, ana 5,
s Subdivision No. 10, generally located at 66th and Arthur Streets N.F.
Public Hearing closed.
MOTTON BY MR. SABR� SECONDED BY MR. SVANDA� TO REMOVE P.S. H84-01 BY
THOMAS BRICKNER FROM THE TABLE,
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCXNABEL DECLARED TXE MO?'ION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
MOTION BY MS. GABEL, SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC XEARiNG ON
P.S. i184-01 BY THOMAS BRICKNER.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIR470MAN SCNNABEL bECLARED TND PUBLIC
HERRING REOPENED AT 8:40 P.M,
Mr. Flora stated that at the last meeting, they were addressing the plat
which essentially included the Rice Creek School property. The plat sub-
mitted by Mr. Brickner identified 29 lots, 5 of which were dedicated as a
park in accordance with the city platting ordinance for this particular
development. As was discussed at that meeting, Staff was concerned about
the park size of .9 acres in that it seemed inadequate as the only park tn
service the area between OlA Central and Stinson Bivd, and Rice Creek and
Mississippi St. A number of a]ternatives had been discussed with Mr. Brickner.
Mr. Flora stated the Planning Corrmission had suggested the City look at
obtaining some other properties, specifically the property to the west of
Rice Creek 5chool, as a potential park site. On March 12, the City Council
passed a resolution authorizing the City Administration to acquire a portion
of the Gena-Rae Addition for public purposes. Based on that direction, Staff
has looked at both the Rice Creek School property, the Gena-Rae Addition, the
PLANNI��G COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 14 1984 PAGE 7
property directly to the north and also the vacant property to the west of
Gena-Rae, and found they can provide a road system which will allow
Mr. Brickner to construct the 29 lots as originally proposed, allow con-
struction of a 2.2 acre park, a71ow the development by Mr. Blomberg of an
additional nine lots to t�e west, and open up the large lots to the north
for the future splitting into five lots. This would essentially provide
access from the various areas being served to the park, would provide
street parking, and would provide those items recommended by the Parks &
Recreation Department (tennis court, softball field, tot lot, passive play
area, etc.).
Mr. Flora stated the City feels this new proposal not only satisfies the
concern expressed by the Planning Cortxnission, but also the concerns addressed
by the City Council in pre7iminarily reviewing this plat with Mr. Brickner.
Mr. Flora stated the City will be attempting to purchase the property in the
Gena-Rae Addition for a park. They have made some contact with the owners,
and they seem favorable to the idea of a park being constructed on the
property.
Mr. Brickner stated this proposal provided for a fine project, a nice park
area, street parking, and it looked like it was certainly in the best
interest of the City and all the people involved,
Ms. Schnabel stated it was their understandina then that, instead of dedi-
cating land,Mr. Brickner will be entering into a fee negotiation with the
city for the park.
Ms. Betty Ann Mech, 1315 - 66th Ave. N.E., stated she was representing a
lot of the neighbors in this surrounding neighborhood. She stated she had
a petition she wouid like to present to the Planning Commission. She read
the following petition dated March 13, 1984:
"We the undersigned residents of the area near Rice Creek School
urge you to establish a public greenway on the Rice Creek side of
the property when it is developed, Traditionally, this has been
public property, available to all the residents for hiking and
viewing the Creek. (There is not a better view in Fridley.) We
believe to make this private property available to only a few
people would serious7y diminish the quality of life for the present
residents and the new residents who will have even more pressure
from expanded nur�ers.
"Long ago the City of Minneapolis, despite heavy pressure, showed
us the way by saving the shores of its lakes for the public. We
will applaud your foresite if you do the same."
Ms. Mech also showed four slides of the view of the creek from this side.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEE7ING MARCH ]4 1984 PAGE 8
Ms. Mech stated there is already an existing path at the top of the cliff,
and they would like to have this available to the residents of Fridley
as it has always been.
MOTION BY MS. SCHREINER, SECONDED BY 1�42, GOODSPEED, TO RECEIVE
PETITION g1_gg DATED MARCH Z3, 1984.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHAABEL DECLARED THE
MOTION CRRRIED UNANIMOUSLY. .
Ms. M. Larson, 1340 - 66th Ave. N.E., stated she felt the City realTy
needed to do something like this in this area. It was true that the
people in their area have not had a park, but they have not really felt
the void because there has always been a lot of open space they have
used and enjoyed. They now see this slipping away, and they feel this is
something the City shouid think about and attempt to do for the whole
cortmunity.
Mr, Brickner stated that with the houses he would be constructing alonq
the bluff 7ine, after the setback requirement, the houses would be very
c7ose to the bluff. Probably most of the houses wou]d have decks that
would overhang the bluff, He was not sure where the path was now, but if
it comes on top of the ridge, he would suspect the path would be right by
the houses. From his point of view, it would be very difficult to sell a
lot with a public path in its backyard.
Mr. Brickner stated that if he were to move the road to the south, it would
require his taking out a number of lots on the other side.
Ms, Schnabel stated she agreed with Mr. Brickner. There were a6out four
lots that after the 35 ft, setback would be sitting right about where the
path is now. She did not see how Mr. [3rickner could agree to that walkway
if it is going to be by people's houses.
Mr. Oquist stated that if the City was to provide a path or walkway along
the cliff, there were potentia] problems with liability to the City if
someone should fali and get hurt.
Ms. Mech stated it was just a shame that there will be only four or five
peop7e who will be able to enjoy that beautiful view.
Mr, Curt Loschy, 1349 - b6th Ave. N.E „ stated he owns the 7ot adjacent to
the school on the west side. He stated the path runs behind the
schooT fence, generalTy from Arthur St., across two lots and part of a
third lot, then down to the old dam. Since the pathway was put in by the
County on the north side of the Creek, the amount of foot traffic on this
side has decreased significantly. The path itself has almost grown over,
He felt there was not enougfi fooi traffic now to keep the path open.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETIN6 LMARCH 14L 1984 PAGE 9
Mr, Dick Podvin stated he was representing the principles on the Gena-
Rae Addition. They have obviously been negotiating with the City on the
sale of this property and, at this point, an appraisal is being made on
the value of the land, He stated the only exception he could see to the
park plan at tf�is time was the proposed walkway to the park from Mississippi
St. They would not agree to that because of the foot traffic that would be
between houses. He stated the dedicated road was forced on them in order
for them to get the building permit. The reason they have resisted selling
this property is because they did not want to develop the property with that
road being forced on them. 7hey feel the property being developed as a
park was a very favorable option to them with the exception of the road
and assuming they get fair market value for the land.
Ms. Mary Loschy, 1399 - 66th Ave. N.E., stated she thought this was a very
good plan, it was a good compromise, and would be very good for the neighbor-
hood. She had one request and that was that it was going to be a little
difficult for people from 66th Ave,to get to the park. She would like to
see tfie City consider some foot traffic access from 66tfi, if that was possible.
Mr. Flora stated that was something the City could probably work toward in
the future.
Mr. Brickner stated he had no strong feelings one way or the other. If it
was an easement, it should probably be fenced.
Ms. Schnabel stated it was a very good point and she would like to see the
City explore the possibility of some easement from 66th Ave. to the new park
area.
Mr. Ro6ert Thayer, 6051 - 6th St. N.E., stated he was at the Planning
Commission meeting two weeks ago and criticized the City's prpposal at that
time. He would like to say that this proposal made a lot more sense. It
answered the concern about developing adequate park area, and he thought it
allowed for an organized sensible development for all three parcels of
property.
MOTIDN BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MS, SCNREINER� TO CLOSE TXE PUBLIC XEARZNG.
UPON A 907CE VOTE� RLL VQTING AYE� CHAZRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TAE PUBLIC
HEARING CLOSED AT 9:22 P.M.
Mr. Oquist stated he felt this total plan was more in line with what he was
concerned about at the last meeting. What he thought they needed to do was
to plan the wfiole area as long as there were three parcels of property that
were available. It seemed to him this was a reasonable development for
this whole area.
Ms. Schnabel stated she was very pleased with this plan, It was worth
delaying this for two weeks. From the standpoint of the City, providing
a park in the Gena-Rae AddStion was the best solution they could come up with,
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 14 1984 PAGE 10
MOTZON 8Y MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MS. SCHREINER, SO RECOMMEND 1b CITY COUNCIL
RPPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY PLAT P.S. #Sd-OI� CREEKRSIIGE� BY THOMAS BRICKNER�
BEING A REPLAT OF LOTS 2� 3� AND 5� AUDITOR'S SUBDIVISION NO. 10� GENERALLY
IOCATED RT 66TH AND RRTHUR STREETS N.E.� WITN THE CONSIDERATION THAT THE
CZTY DEPELOP SOME KZND OF PATHWAY FROM 66TH AVE. 71� THE NEW PROPOSED PRRX.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYF CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRZED UNANZMOUSLY.
5. LOT SPLIT REQUEST: L.S. #84-01, BY HERBERT KNUTSON: Split Lots 1, 2, 3,
oc , r�a eT y�ar�nto� two�ui'Tci�ing sites, �y splitting off the
westerly 27 feet of Lot 2, and combining it with Lot 3, and the description of
Lot 1 will add that part of Lot 2 lying east of the westerly 27 feet, all
in Block 15, Fridley Park, the same bein9 TO and 20 64th Way N.E.
Mr. Flora stated this property was just south of 64th Ave. and west of
Ashton Ave. There are three iots, Lots 1, 2, and 3, which are being proposed
to be split into two lots, one 67 ft, wide and one 70.26 ft, wide. This
particular plat was platted before 1955 and, as such, the code requires a
minimum of 50 ft. The code also states that if it was an early plat, the
lot width and the lot area may not be satisfied but all other setback criteria
must be satisfied.
Mr. Flora stated that in talking with the developer, it was first proposed
to split the property in half and make each lot about 72 ft, in width,
Because the corner lot requires a 77'-z ft, stdeyard setback, they thought it
would be better to make the first lot a little wider and the second lot a
little smaller and still satisfy the setback criteria.
Mr. Flora stated Staff would recommend three stipulations if this lot split
is approved:
1, There be a park
2, That no building
is recorded with
3, The outstandin9
fee of $750
permit be issued until
the County.
assessments be paid.
the lot split
Mr.John Dunphy, 155 Stonybrook Way, stated he was representing Mr. Knutson
wF�o could not be at the meeting. He stated Mr. Knutson plans to put single
family dwellings on both lots.
MOTION BY MR, OQUZST� SECONDED BY MR. SVRNDR� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF LOT SPLIT REQUEST� L.S, N84-OZ, BY NERBERT KNUTSON, TO SPLIT
LOTS 1� 2, 3, BLOCK 25, FRZDLEY PRRK, INTO TWO BUILDING SITES, BY SPLI2SING
OFF THE WESTERLY 27 FEET OF LOT 2� AND COMBZNING ST YIITH IAT 3� AND THE
DESCRIP2ION OF LOT I WILL ADD SHAT PART OF LOT 2 LYING EAST OF TFIE P7ESTERLY
27 FEET, ALL SN BI.00K 15� FRIDLEY PARK� THE SAME $EING 10 AND 20 64TH 47AY N.E.�
[ti*ITH THE fiOLLOWZNG STIPULATIONS:
1. THEF2E BE A PARK FEE OF $750
2, THAT NO BUILDZNG PERMIT BE ISS[lED UNSIL TNE IqT SPLIT
IS RECORDED WIPi THE COUNTY,
3. THE OUTSTANDING ASSESSMENTS BE PAID.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 14 1984 PAGE 11
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED T}7E
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. -
6. RECEIVE FEBRUARY 28, 1984, ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOZ'ION BY MR. SRBA� SECONDED BY MR, SVANDR, TO RECEIVE SHE FEB. 28, I984,
ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TNE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTIDN BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MR OQUIST� TO ADJOURN THE MEESING. UPON A VOICE
YOTE� ALL [/OTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCNNABEL DECLARED TXE MARCH 14� 1984, PLANNING
COMMISSZON MEETING ADJOURNED AS 9:50 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Cf • �c ��
ynn Saba
Recording Secretary
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' CITY OF FRIDLEY
PETIT7uN GOVER SHEE'f
Peei i ioi� N��. 1-84
Date Received �4arch l9, ]984
ubjecc Establishment of a public greenway on the Rice Creek side of the
Rice Creek School Property when the property is developed.
Pe[ition Checked Av
Percen[ Signing
Referred to City Co�ncil
Disposiiion
Date
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March 13. 1984
:o the Fridley Planning Commission:
lYe the undersigned residents of the area near ?tice Creek School urge you to
establis� •a public greenway on the Rice Creek side of the orooerty when it is
developed. Traditionally, this has been public property, available to all the residents
for hiking and viewin� the creek. (There is noi a better view in Fridley.) V1e
believe to make this private property, available to only a few peoole, would seriously
diminish the qualify of life for the present residents and the new residents who will
have even more pressure from exoanded numbers.
Long ago the City of Minr.eapolis, despite tieavy pressure, showed us the �tiay
by savin� the shores of its ]akes for the public. We wil] applaud your foresite
if you do the same.
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PUBLIC HEARING
BEFORE THE
PLANN1Nr, COPIMISSION
Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the
Ptanning Co�nission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 5431
University Avenue Northeast on Wednesday, March 28, 1984
in the Council Chamber at 7:30 P.M, for the purpose of:
Consideration of a Preliminary Plat, P.S.
#84-02, Hidden Woods, by Thomas E. Blomberg,
being a replat of the Southerly 33 feet of
Lot 6, along with Lot 7, except the South
five (5) feet of the West one hundred
fifty (l50) feet and except the East one
hundred (100)feetof the ldest two hundred
fifty (250) feet; along with all of Lot 13,
in Revised Auditor's Subdivion No. 10,
located in the North Half of Section 13,
T-30, R-24, City of Fridley, County of
Anoka, Minnesota.
Generally located in the 6500 Block of Central
Avenue.
Any and all persons desiring to be heard shall be given an opportunity
at the above stated time and place.
VIRGINIA SCHNABEL
CHAIRWOMAN
PLANNING COMMISSION
Publish: March 14, 198h
March 2l, 1984
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P4AlpiIN6 COMdISSION: APPROYED DISAPPROVED DATE 3i� N0.
CiTY COUNCIL: PUBLIC HEARIN6 DATE 15T READ 2ND READ
CITY COI�ICII: . APPROVED DISAPPROYED MTE NO
PAF�IC FEE REQUIRED: AlDUNT PAID
STIPULATIONS:
STREET LUCATIQN OF
LE6AL DESCRIPTION OF PROPERTY
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PRESENT ZONING CLASSIFICATION R I EXISTING USE OF PROPERTY I�ac.c-,"�
AGREAGE OF PROPERTY�naf �./� DESCRIBE BRIEF,LYJ THE PR6POS��E+D ZONING CLASSIfICATION
OR TYPE OF USE AND IMPROYEMENT PROPOSED Srrt�tvisi�o., 7nr S��aft �t�.,
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Has the present applicant previously sought ta rezone, plat, obtain a lot split or
variance or special use permit on the subject site or part of it? ___,yes�no.
What was requested and whenT
Tbe undersigned undgr�tands that: (a) A list of alt residents and owners of proper-
ty within 350 feet �tf3t be attached to this application (rezoning), 300 feet, (plat-
ting), �st be attach@d to'this bppl5tation. '(b) This application must be signed
by all owners of the property, o� an explanation given why this is not the case.
(c) Responsibility for any defect in the proceedings resulting from the failure to
list the names and addresss of all residents and property owenrs of propprty in
question, belongs to the undersigned.
A sketcb of proposed property and structure must be drawn and a�tached, showing the
foltawing: 1. North direction. 2. Location of the proposed structure on tfie lot.
3. bimensions of property, proposed structure, and fron and side setbacks. 4. Street
nases. 5. Location and use of adjacent existing buildings (within 350 feet).
The undersi�ned hereby declares that all
this application are true and correct.
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DATE o2 6 SI6NATUB��
the facts and respresentations stated in
ADDRESS1��i� C�y�7�Lt3T �N- TELEPHONE NO S�%/— o�q5
Effective January 17, 1984
1984 POLICY STAT BSEl7T ON PARR FEfiS
ON LAND S[TADIVISION
Date
In determining fair market value of public areas for land subdivision for cash payment as
required by Ordinance #633� the following values xill be used:
Residential Subdivision
Residential Lot Split
Commercial/Industrial Subdivision or Lot Split
E1,500.00 per lot
E 750.00 per lot
E 0.023 Per sq. ft.
This fee is to be paid at the time of final plat or lot split approval. The City Council
may defer collection to the time a Duilding permit is requested for individual lots
created by such subdivision/lot split.
The City retains the option to accept an equivalenL amount in cash from the applicant for
part or all of the portion required to be dedicated.
PARR FEE AGREEHENT
The undersigned understands that according to the City Pla'ting Ordinance, the folloving
public park land dedication is required to plat residential, commercial or industrial
zoned property.
It Ss further understood that the public park land dedication or cash payment equivalent
is at the discretion of Lhe City.
Zt is agreed that a cash payment of E xill be paid according to the above stated
policy for the follouing suDdivisionllot split.
It is agreed that the following land dedication is pro�ided according to the above stated
policy for the folloWing subdivisionllot split:
Dedication:
Subdivision/Lot Split
The undersigned further agrees to notify all future property oWners or assigns of tAe cash
payment requirement, 1f it is Lo be collected at the time of iasuance of a building
permit.
Date
(Property Arner Signature)
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MAILING LIST
P.S. #84-02 Hidden Wodds
and ZOA �84-01 For Tom Blombert
Thomas Blomberg
1661 Camelot Lane N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Ronald Ennis
6601 Central Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. Curtis A. Barsness
6581 Central Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Bacon's Electric Company
6525 Central Avenue N.E.
Fridley, � 55432
Mr. & Ptrs. Theodore Ginsberg
6634 Central Avenue N.E.
Fridley, htn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Donald Findell
6676 Central Aveaue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Bruce Bondow
6616 Central Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Virginia Ridinger
5330 Howards Point Road
Excelsior, MN 55331
Mr. & Mrs. Thomas Moore
6580 Central Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Donna J. Zaier
6550 Central Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. Dick Marquardt
6588 Central Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Richard Podvin
1391 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Roger Fremo
FML Inc.
Box 96
Newport, MN 55055
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Planning Commission ���/��i�'F
City Counci
Mr. & Mrs. Edward Gottwaldt
1415 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Warren T. Spaeth
6516 Central Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. ferdinand Holzhev
1314 Mississippi Street N.E.
Mr. & Mrs. John fogerty Fridley, Mn 55432
6500 Central Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. Hyman Berg
1340 Mississippi Street N.E.
Mr. & Mrs. William McCloskey Fridley, Mn 55432
6619 Channel Road N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. J. A. Kath
1458 Mississippi Street N.E.
Mrs. Helen Clair fridley, Mn 55432
6609 Channel Road N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Thomas Zimmerman
1376 P1ississippi Street N.E.
Mr. & Mrs. John Urista Fridley, Mn 55432
6599 Channel Road IN.E. Mr. & Mrs. Leland Erickson
Fridley, Mn 55432 �q00 Mississippi Street N.E.
Channel Road Generl Partn�r�s���y� Mn 55432
c/o Karen Stendahl Mr. & Mrs. David Mech
1030 University 1315 66th Avenue N.E.
Blaine, MN 55434 Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. David Langenfeld
FMC, Inc.
Box 96
Newport, MN 55055
Mr. & Mrs. Don Parks
1341 Mississippi Street N
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Edward Simko
1327 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Robert Lunde
E 1339 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Newton Larson ��Xx� Mrs. Jane Hoppe
1361 Mississippi Street N.E. 1351 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Herbert Johnson Mr. & Mrs. Frank Ratasky
1381 Mississippi Street N.E. 1363 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridiey, Mn 55432 Fridley, Mn 55432
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Mailing List for Blomberg
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Mr. & Mrs. Robert f. Bridgeman
1375 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. Q Mrs. Robert Burdick
1316 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Chock 5. Huie
1328 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mrs. Grace Larson
1340 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, htn 55432
Mrs. Marion V. Howard
1358 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Donald Hengel
1376 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Joseph Menth
1388 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Myron E. Ostlund
1400 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
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PUBLIC HEARING
BEFORE THE
PLANNING COMMISSION
Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the
Planning Commission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431
University Avenue Northeast on Wednesday. March 28, 1984
in the Council Chamber at 7:30 P.M. for the purpose of:
Consideration of a Rezoning Request, ZQA M84-01,
by Thomas�Blomberg, to rezone the Easterly 200
feet of the Nesterly 250 feet of the Northerly
185 ieet of Lot 7, from C-2 ( eneral business)
and R-2 (two family dweliings� to R-1 (one family
dwellings), and rezone from R-2 (two far�ily dwellings)
to R-1 (one family dwellings) the south 33 feet of
the East 168 1/2 feet of the wester 218 1/2 feet
of Lot 6, (not already zoned R-1), all in Revised
Auditor's Subdivision No. 10, located in the North
Half of Section 13, T-30, R-24, City of fridley,
County of Anoka, Minnesota.
Generally l�cated in the 6500 31ock of Central Avenue.
Any and e11 persons desiring to be heard shall be given an opportunity
at the above stated time and place.
VIRGINIA SCHNABEL
CHAIRWOMAN
PLANNIN6 COMMISSION
Publish: March 14, 1984
March 21, 1984
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PLANNIN6 COt�IISSION: APPROYED
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PLAT
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CITY COUNCIL: PUBLIC HEARING DATE 1ST READ 2ND READ
CITY ODINCIL: . APPROYED DISAPPROYED DAT@ NO
PAfOC fEE REQUIRED: AI�IAiT PAIO
STIPULATIONS:
NAME /pr�, ' .D/�;
STREET LOCATION OF
LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF PROPERTY
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PRESENT ZONING CLASSIFICATIONK2 �� ZEXISTING USE OF PROPERTY �ae a.,7�
ACREAGE OF PROPERTYA�rw e?,� DESCRIBE BRIEFLY TNE� /P�ROPOSED ZONING ClA55IFICATION
OR TYPE OF USE AND IMPROYEMENT PROPOSED �zon e_ 1`rpu-� .�-Z °' C-Z �o �-i
Has the present applicant previously sought to rezone, plat, obtain a lot split or
variance or special use permit on the subject site or part of it? ___yes v na.
Yfhat was requested a�d ahen?
The undersigned und tands that: (a) A list of a11 residents and owners of proper-
ty within 350 feet� be attached to this application (rezoning), 300 feet, (plat-
ting), �st be attached to'this �ppl5cation. '(b) Th{s application must be signed
by a11 owners of the property. or an explanation given why this is not the case.
(c} Responsibility for any defect in the proceedings resulting from the failure to
. tist the names and addresss of all residents and property owenrs af prop�rty in
question, belongs to the undersigned.
A sketch of proposed property and structure awst be drawn and attached, showing the
following: 1. North direction. 2. Location of the proposed structure on the lot.
3. Oimensions of property, proposed structure. and fron and side setbacks. 4. Street
names. 5. Location and use of adjacent existing buildings (within 350 feet).
The underSiJned hereby declares that all the facts and respresentations stated in
this application are true and correct.
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
MEETING
MARCH 8, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Vice-Chairperson Prieditis ca7led tfie March 8, 1984, Housing & Redevelopment
Authority meeting to order at 7:08 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Elmars Prieditis, Duane Prairie, Walter Rasmussen
Meribers Absent: Larry Comners, Carolyn Svendsen
Others Present: Sid Inman, City Finance Director
Nasim Qureshi, City Mana9er
Mayor Bill Nee
Ed Hamernik, Councilman
Ed Fitzpatrick, Councilman
Dave Newman, City Attorney
hiark Naggerty
Richard Brooks, Target Stores
Michael Moorman, Target Stores
APPROVAL OF JAp�UARY 12, 1984, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES:
MO^ION BY MR. RASMUSSEN, SECONDED BY MR. PRAIRIE, TO APPROVE THE JAP7, 12� 1984,
HOI7SING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY ASINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A S'OICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRpEPSOIl PP,IEDI'!7S DECT�FIP,ED TIIE
MOSION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. CHECK REGISTER APPROVAL
Mr. Inman stated that in the past, Staff has been handling the HRA's
checks upon approval 6y the NRA. He stated Staff would like the authority
to make payments on those things where there is a discount or a pe�alty.
He stated that before the HRA made a decision on this, he would send them a copy
of the resolution the City Council passed for a similar procedure.
The HRA members agreed this would be a good idea.
MOTZON BY MR. PRASIZIE, SECONDED BY MR. RASMUSSEN, 2'O APPROVE THE CHECK
REGZSTER DASED JAN. 27, I984� SN THE AMOUNT OF $74,959.29 AND CHECF: REGZSTER
DATED MARCII 2, 1984, IN THE AMOUNT OF $15,718.52.
UPON R VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, S�ICE-CHAZRPERSOP7 PRIEDITSS DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING MARCH 8 1984 PAGE 2
P10TION BY MR. RASMUSSEN� SECONDED BY MR. PRAIRZE� TO APPROVE TNE PRYMENT
OF P.O. NO. 20287 FOR LEGAL FEES FOR HERRICK 6 NE47MAN P.A. SN THE AMOC�T
OF 5215.00.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� VICE—CNAIRPERSON PRIEDITIS DECLAP,ED THE
MOTION CRRRIED UNANIMOUSLY. �
2. RFSOLU7ION DESIGNATING OFF
MOTION BY MR. RASMUSSEN, SECONDED BY FII2. PRRZRIE, TO RPpROVE RESOLUTZON NO.
HRA-4-1984� "RESOLUTION DESIGNATING OFFICIAL DEPOSITORIES FOR TNE FRIDLEY
XOUSZNG & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY".
UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE� VICE—CHAIRPERSQ1i PRIEDITIS DECLAREP TNE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3. FI�JANCIAL REPORT:
Mr. Inman stated no action was needed on this item, but he would l�ke the HRA
to make a motion to receive the financial report.
MO220N BY MR. RA.SMUSSEN� SECONDED BY MR, PRRIRZE� TO RECEIVE .THE HRA ANNUAL
FINANCIAL REPOP,T, UNAUDITED, FOR YERR ENDED DEC. 31, 1983.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VZCE—CNAIRPERSON PRIEDZTZS DECZJaP,ED TIIF.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
4. OTHER BUSINESS:
a. Proposal by Target Stores
Mr. Qureshi stated it has been the City's and the HRA's desire to see
the property developed north of City Hall, for the last few months,
Staff has been working with Target representatives to see how the City of
Fridley could accommodate a possible administrative building for the Target
people. He stated he now felt they were far enough along in their dis-
cussions to give the HRR an update on what has transpired over the last
few months and where the negotiations are witfi 7arget at this time. If
the NRA feels this is a good proposal and a good development, he would
like to get a conceptual approval from the HRA on the proposal so they
can proceed to formalize the proposal and possible agreement between the
City, the HRA, and Target Stores.
Mr. Qureshi introduced Richard Brooks, Target Regiona] Rea] Estate
�4anager, and Michael Moorman, Project Architect for this office facility.
He stated Mr. Brooks and Mr. Moorman would give the detai7s of the
proposal.
HOUSING & REDEUELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING MARCH 8 1984 PA6E 3
Mr, Brooks stated they have spent considerable time analyzing what they
should do with their existing Correnerce and Paco office personnel. He
stated that when he started with the Target company in 1978, there were 46
stores. Today, there are 217 stores. The amount of people needed to
operate those stores has increased substantially; therefore, they
are running out of room at their existing facilities at Commerce and
Paco. Over the past months, they have viewed several sites and proposals
from various cities surrounding Fridley and Fridley. With the great
cooperation of the Fridley City Manager, Mr. Qureshi, and his staff,
they have selected this location to put their new office facility. It
will be approx. 75,000 sq. ft. office building, three stories, that will
accommodate initially 320 people. These people will be caning from the
facilities at Commerce and Paco.
Mr. Brooks stated they are very happy with this decision, because they
have had a very long history with Fridley. They have a store in Fridley,
their distribution center is here, and they are happy they have been
able to work out arrangements to stay in Fridley.
Mr, Brooks stated that, as far as the site specifics, he would turn that
part of the discussion over to Mr. Moorman to explain a little bit about
the site, the building, and then they would be happy to answer any
questions.
Mr, Moorman stated the building itself will have about 74,600 sq. ft.
They are planning for 350 people and right now their best proj:ctions
are until 1995. They are proposing a three-story bui:ding where they
can split up their operation. Ne stated their operation works better
with a two-story building, but with this particular site, they are going
with three siories because it fits the site. The buil�ing will be to
the north of Fridley City Hall.
Mr. Moorman stated there are about four structures that will have to be
taken down. There is a large excavated area from a prPVieus structure
that they are going to take advantage of on the site and put in their
lower level. They are proposing that the western portion of the site
be buildin9 and the eastern portion of the site be parkinq for about
300 cars, They have been working out the details of the parking arrange-
ment and landscaping with Mr. Qureshi. They are also planning to have
ponding areas that are required here in the City to retain water.
Mr, Floorman stated they are proposing that the building be basically
broken into two blocks. Primarily, the building is set so it flows
into the site. It leaves sane room for physical expansion after 1995.
The building itself is basically laid out so they have a circulation core
through the center of it that focuses on the parking lot.
Mr. Pioorman stated there will be a lower level which will be a walk-out
into a lower grassed area which will have picnic ta6les, etc. The
second level goes out onto ±he parking lot and will be where their main
facilities are. Some of their other departments will be on the third
level. They are looking at tfie fact that the City's greenway will
continue on through and by the site. They are looking at an entrance
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, MARCH 8 1984 PAGE 4
off Mississippi St. and a7so making use of the center driveway that
noYi services City Ha71 and the Police Dept.
Mr. Moorman stated their staff wi17 Y�ork two shifts. The bulk of the
employees will work 7:00-8:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m., and the second shift
(about 100 employees) stays until about 12:00-1:00 a,m.
Mr. Rasmussen asked if a study had been done on how this proposai
would affect the Fire Dept. as far as traffic congestion.
Mr. Moorman stated no particular study has been done, but he felt
they were not going to create any particular problem, any more than
what the Fire Dept. has right now.
Mr. Qureshi stated he felt they were looking at a very small magnitude
impact on the overall picture. At thP present time, about 40,000 vehicles
per day go through the University/Mississippi intersection. By adding
200 vehicles, the magnitude is less than 1%. He stated it was his hope
that some of the modifications they have worked on and iooked at would
not, in any way, adverse7y impact the existing situation and as develop-
ment is completed, they certainly wi]1 be studying to see what the actual
impact is and do anything they can to minimize any adverse effects.
Mr. Rasmussen stated he thought getting such a�reat company such as
Tar9et to coMe here was a wonderful opportunity for the City of Fridley.
Mr. Prieditis stated he was happy about Target's decision to move into
fridley. He asked Mr. Brooks why they seiected Fridley and this parti-
cular site.
Mr. Brooks stated that certainly the cooperation and enthusiasm the
City Staff had shown them had been a key factor. Also, many of their
employees are Fridley peop7e, One of their goals was to try to stay
within a certain radius of their existing facility. They have a lot of
long term employees who iive here and they tried to accommodate those
people.
Mr. Prieditis stated the HRA was certainly pleased to see Target's
interest in this site. Ne asked what time fra�e Target was looking at
as far as deve7opment.
Mr. Brooks stated they would like to be under construction in June and
have the facility completed in at least 12 months.
Mr. Prairie asked if the building would be similar to the new medical
building and office building that are relatively new in the Center City.
Mr. I�oorman stated their building wiTl be brick on the exterior, a very
similar brick to the other buildings. They will be using some metal
panels and some stucco panels. They intend this building to be very
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETIN6 MARCH 8 1984 PAGE 5
compatible to the design and materials that are currently used in the
site. Their landscaping will fit in with the greenway and plaza areas.
They intend to help complete the Center City area.
Mr, Prairie stated that earlier in the meeting, Mr. Moorman had mentioned
the possibility for growth on this site. How many square feet?
Mr, Moorman stated they could probably add 15-16,000 sq. ft. This is
just an option they want to reserve. They do not know the likelihood
of any expansion, but it is good planning to keep that option open.
Mr. Qureshi stated that, originally, Target felt the site north of City
Hall was too small. Their original desire was for 9 acres. Their
preference was for two stories because of their general need for opera-
tions. When the City was approached by a real estate professional hired
by Target, the City showed them the site west of University wliich is
certainly 9 acres, but because of the desire of the HRA and the City
to complete this quadrant they had started, their emphasis was on this
site. Target did some initial sketching to see if there was a way to
work a two-story building, but it did not look right because it did not
leave any room for green spaces. It was the City's desire to leave some
space 6etween City Hall and a new facility for good separation between
the two buildings, some kind of continuation of the �laza system and
walkway system, and a lot of green area and landscaping. Target was
willing and able to adjust their needs and came up with the proposal
for the three-story building. He stated they seem to be quite comfortable
with this proposal.
Mr. aureshi stated they feel that if this facility is built, it will be
an excellent addition to Center City. It will complete the southeast
quadrant and will introduce 300+ people which riill favorahly impact the
business people in Fridley.
Mr. Qureshi stated Target's proposal is to build a$ 5 Million dollar facility.
It is going to create over $200,000 in taxes, and that would certainly
be available to make this development work. Once that has been completed,
they could all be very proud of having a good development and a sizable
tax generation by this facility to the City.
Mr. Moorman showed the HRA the plans for the interior design of the
building.
Mr. Prieditis stated that, architecturally, this was a very nice
building.
Mr. 6rooks stated that Target has a new City Center building in
Minneapolis, and they wanted their employees here to have the feeling
they were getting a comparable quality facility. That is why they
designed the building the way they did.
HOUSIN6 & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, MARCH S 7984 PA6E 6
Mr. Qureshi stated that, informally, Target has now made enough
arrangements to canmit to the City on this site. He siated the HRA
will require a reso7ution for the sale of property the HRA owns north
of City Hall, and a public hearin9 is required for that. After that,
the HRA wi71 be free to sell the property.
Mr. Qureshi stated the basic financial arrangements worked out with
Target is the HRA wi71 sell Target the footprint, 5 ft. around the
building, for $2/sq, ft, Tar9et would actually own that property. The
rest of the land outside the building will be leased to Target for 30
years at maybe $15,000/year; then the City will sell the land to them
at approx. $300,000. The City will retain the option of air rights
of a iittle over half of the easterly portion of the parking lot so that
in the future, either the City, HRA, or Target could develop a parking
ramp if the parking needs demand such a facility. Target will have the
option to buy additional property at $2/sq. ft. at any time during the
30-year period if they Hant to expand.
Mr. Qureshi stated there are some problems v�ith drainage north of City
Hall, and arrangements will have to be made to handle that. The HRA
will have to have the land ready for development, so they will have to
remove the existing structures.
Mr. Qureshi stated that if the HRA was comfortable with this proposal,
Staff will proceed with the arrangements of publishinq a notice for a
public hearing for disposal of the land and notify all the tenants of
the general plan so the tenants can start making arrangements to move.
There is some fTexibility here as the area is basically vacant where
the building will go.
Mr, Qureshi stated that with the concensus of the HRA, they would also
formalize the agreement with Target and that agreement would be hrought
back to the HRA. He stated he would send copies of the forMalized
agreements to the HRA prior to their meetin9 so they would have ti�e to
review it.
Mr. Prairie stated he felt very comf•?rtable with Target's proposal and
was looking forward to seeing it get going.
Mr. Rasmussen stated he thought it was a wonderful opportunity for
Fridley.
Vice-Chairperson Prieditis stated it was the generai concensus of the
HRA memhers present at the meeting that they were comfortable with
the Target proposal. They would authorize Staff to proceed with the
10-day notice for public hearing. The HRA would also give conceptual
approval to the financial arrangement as outlined by Mr. Qureshi,
which will be brought back to the HRA in a formal agreement. If it
was necesary, the HRA would hold a special meeting,
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETIN6 MARCH 8 1984 PAGE 7
Mr. Prieditis thanked Mr. Brooks and Mr. Moorman for caning to the
meeting.
Mr. Prieditis stated he �ould like Staff to continue to give the HRA
more factual information as the project progresses.
ADJOURNMENT:
MO_TION BY MR. RASMUSSEP7, SECONDED BY MFZ. PRRZRIE� TO ADJOURN TXE MEETING. UPON
A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, VZCE-CHAZRPERSON PRIEDITIS DECLARED THE MAR. 8, 1984,
NOUSZNG 6 REDEVELOPMENT AUTNORITY MEETZNG ADJOORNED AT 8:45 P.Af.
Respectfully su6 itted,
,C'Y��
Ly n Saba
Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
COMMUNITY DEYELOPMENT COhU1ISSI0IJ
MEETING
MARCH 13, 1984
CAtI TO ORDER:
Chairperson 0quist called the March 13, 1984� Community Development Cortmission
meeting to order at 7:34 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Mer�bers Present: LeRoy Oquist, Al Gabel, Ken Vos, Louis Schmidt
MeMbers Absent: Carol Fassett
Others Present: Mark Burch, Asst. Public Works Director
APPR04AL OF OCTOSER 11, 1983, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMEWT COMMISSIOtJ MINUTES:
MOTZON BY MR. SCHHZD?, SEC077DEA HY DR. VOS, TO APPROVE THE Q;?. 11, 1983,
COIfMUNITY DEVELOPMEt1T COMMZSSSON MINUTES AS WRIS2EN.
UPON A VDICE VOTE, RLL VOTING RYE, CXRZRPERSQN OQUIST DECLARED TflE MOTION
CARRIED UNRNIMOUSLY.
Y 10, 1984, COMMUNITY DEVELOP�4EfJT COMMISSION
rcTTnr �TUiiTrc.
NO^.'IOA BY MR. GABEL� SECO27DED BY HR. SCXMSDT, 2l7 ApPP.OI'E TXE JAN. 10, 1984,
CQ1tMUNITY DEVEZApMENT COMMISSIDN/HUMAN RESWRCES COMMZSSION JOIl/T MEETSPlG
MIIIUTES AS tIRZTTEN.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPELSON OQUIST DECLARED TXE MO_TZON
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. REVIEW OF WORK PLAN:
Mr, Oquist stated that before they begin to discuss the work plan, the
Comnission needed to aga9n discuss what direction the Commission should
be going� He stated they have discussed this before; but, there is the
HRA that takes care of a lot of the development in the community, and there
is a Planning Commission. The comnunity is pretty well developed, so he
really did not know what the Community Development Comnission should be
doing.
Mr. Burch stated that last year the Comnission started to get involved
in a liaison with the Chamber of Commerce. He felt there was some potential
in pursuing that relationship.
COHMUt�ITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 13 1984 PAGE 2
Dr. Vos stated that in looking at their tast year's rrork plan, the Comnission
did accomplish many of the things in that work plan. The one thing that
still interested him that they had not done a lot with ]ast year was working
with the Chamber of Commerce. He stated he would like to continue to
pursue this liaison,
Mr. Oquist stated he was just not canfortable with what the Cortmission was
doing. It just seemed like tfie Cortmission should be doing more. He stated
maybe the Cortmuriity Development Comnission could in some way be of assistance
to the Housing & Redevelopment Authority (HRAj. Maybe the Commission could
act in some advisory capacity to the HRA.
Mr. Burch stated that it was possible there were waVS the Comnunity
Devetopment Corianission could help the NRA.
Dr. Vos staYed the Comnission could also be a good buffer between the HRA
and business/Chamber of Comnerce. The Comnission could bring in input from
the citizens and business to the HRA.
Mr. Oquist stated he wculd like to request Staff to discuss with Mr, Qureshi,
City Manager, the possibility of the Comnunity Oevelopment Commission assist-
ing the HRA in sane way. He would also like to request that the City give
the Community Development Cortmission some ideas of what they would like to
see the Commission doing. He realized they have gone over this for at least
the last 2-3 years, and the City usually comes back asking the Commission to
telt them what the Commission wants to do. Mr. Oquist stated it is very
hard for the Commission to tell the City what they should be involved in
when the Co�ission doesn't know what is going on as far as community develop-
ment in the City.
Mr. Oquist stated the Cortmission really needed to continue to pursue their
"Economic Development" goal and start working with the Chamber of Commerce
again. One of the Comnission's objectives under this goal last year was
to prepare and disseminate a brochure for use by small businesses explaining
and detailing licensing requirements,zoning requirements, etc. He stated
this is something the Camnission should start working on again also.
Mr, Gabel stated a brochure of this type is something that is needed,
especially with a77 the development that is happening right now.
The Comnission agreed to leave the "Economic Development" goal the same as
last year.
The Comnission agreed to keep the "Housing" goal and changed it as
follows:
COttMUNITY DEVELOPt4ENT COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 13 7984 PAGE 3
coal
Housing -
To ensure
adequate housing
opportunities for
the residents of
Fridley.
Objectives
1. To provide information
concerning new housing
in Fridley.
Action
2. To prepare and disseminate 1. To prepare a
information regarding up- brochure.
keep and maintenance.
weatherization, expansion,
etc.
Mr. Oquist stated that maybe an action item could be to review all
vacant, undeveloped properties, with the possibility of reccMmendinq to
City Council those areas the Cortmission feels should be considered for
rezoning and those areas the Camiission feels should not be considered
for rezoning,
Dr. Vos stated they really cannot have a good handle on canmunity develop-
ment unless they are familiar with those areas where development can occur.
He stated that several times they have heard the figure that 5% is undeveloped
in the City of Fridley, but where is that 5%?
Mr. Oquist stated that was a good point, That 5% might be residential-type
development, but yet there may actually be a higher percentage of undeveloped
land when you look at the total which includes industrial/cortmercial
properties.
Mr, Burch stated he would bring a map to a Commission meeting so the
Comnissian members could look at those areas.
Mr. Oquist stated the goa1. "Ordinance Review," would be an ongoing goal.
Mr. Oquist stated the "Community Development�Block Grant" goal was also an
ongoing goal. He stated one of their action items was to receive quarterly
reports, and the Commission had never received any quarterly reports on
hav things were progressing and where the monies were being spent.
The Ca�mission agreed to leave the "Neighborhood Program" goal with the
following changes:
Goal
Objectives
Neighborhood Program -
To ensure adequate 1.
development of the
neighborh�od concept.
2.
To esta6lish criteria
for the rteighborh�od
concept.
To ensure adequate access,
development, etc., of the
�eighborhood.
Action
1. Revievr transportation
systems within
neighborhoods.
2. Review and update the
bikeway/walkway system
within Fridley.
CO4'MUNITY DEVELOPMENT COr41ISSI0N MEETIN6, MARCH 13 1984 PAf,E 4
Mr. Oquist stated he felt there was a real need for the Comnission to
address the whole bikeway/walkway issue more strongly this year and be
more invoived in the bikeway/walkway process,
Mr. Burch stated Lhe bikeway/walkways would be a gond item for discussion
at a future meeting.
Mr. Oquist asked Staff to put the work plan toge*her in a more final form
for discussion at the next meeting.
ADJOURNMENT:
NOTION BY DR. VOS� SECONDED BY MR. GABEL� TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. UPON A VOSCE
VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CNAIRPERSON OpUZST DECLARED TNE MARCN 13� 1984� COPfMUNZTY
DEVELpPMENT COMMISSIDN MEETZNG ADJOURNED AT 8:50 P,M,
Respectfully submitted,
[
ynn ,aba
Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
HUMAN RESOURCES COhU1ISSI0N
MEETING
MARCH 15, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
ChairQerson Goodspeed called the March 15, 1484, Human Resources Comnission
meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
R01_L CALL:
Members Present:
Members Absent:
Others Present:
Brian Goodspeed, Bob Minton, Peter Treuenfels, Barbara Kocher
Mary van Dan
Bill Hunt, Administrative Assistant
APPROVAL OF FEBRUARY 2, 1984, HUMAN RESOURCES COPIMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. TREUENFELS, SECONDED BY AII2S. KOCXER, TO APPROVE TNE FEB. 2, 2984,
HUtfAN RESOURCES COM!'fISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN,
UPQN A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE�
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
OLD BUSINESS:
GOODSPEED DECLARED THE MOTION
a. Consideration of funding of human service organizations (1983
CDBG funds)
Mr, Hunt stated the amount of CD66 funds available for human service
organizations was approximately $17,�00. Those requesting funds are
Anoka County GAP, fridley City Band, SACA, Central Center for Family
Resources, and the Senior Citizen Center.
Mr. Treuenfels stated he believed the procedure was to receive these
requests at this meeting, review the requests with the Human Resources
Commission guidelines and the HUD guidelines individually during the
next month,and then make prioritizations and recommendations at the
April meeting.
T[ie Cort�nission spent about one-half hour reviewing the guidelines for
evaluating requests which will be considered at the April meeting,
They also reviewed the organizations with respect to their being able
to fulfill the HUd guidelines.
HU��N RESOURCES COMMISSTON MEETING MARCH 15 1984 PAGE 2
b. Consideration of 1984 Work Plan
Mr. Hunt stated that at this point in time, the Commission has formu-
lated the followittg goals for 1984: Public Safety, Numan Rights,
Housing, and CDBG Grants
Mr. Minton handed out copies of a goal and objectives for "Voluntarism".
He stated this goal has been scaled down considerably from what the
Commission had first discussed, Rather than express appreciation to
all the volunteers in Fridley, this goal goes to expressing appreciation
to the volunteers for the C�_i�tY of Fridley. Mr. Minton stated that some-
time ago, Mr. Hunt had stated that the City itself has a lot more
volunteers than people really realize. One effort the Commission could
do was to bring that awareness out to the canmunity, to express some
appreciation to the volunteers who work for the City, and to do it
during Volunteer Appreciation Week in May, He would consult with
Mr. Hunt in finding out who these peop7e are and they could then plan
some activities for this week. He felt having this appreciation expressed
would be of some value to the cammunity, and it might encourage others
to volunteer.
AtOTION BY MR. MINTON, SECONDED BY MR. TREUENFELS, TO INCORPORATE THE
GOAL "['OLUNTRRISM" RS THE FIFTH GOAL IN THE COMMISSZON'S I984 WORK PLAN,
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GOODSPEED DECLARED THE
MOTZON CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Y.ocher stated that at the last meeting, they had discussed the use
of seat belts under "public safety". It was state law that children
4 and under must be in child restraint devices, and she was concerned
about how the Police Dept. was enforcing this violation. lJas the
Coee�ission stili willing to have someone from the Police Dept. come to
a Commission meeting to discuss their policy regarding this? She stated
she has talked to Senator Oon Frank, and he stated it is na longer a
warning for a first-time violation but is a finable ticket. Senator Frank
would be willing to talk to the Cortmission at any time on this issue.
The Commission members were in agreement to invite Tim Turnbuil from
the Palice Dept. to the April meeting to discuss this issue.
Ms. Kocher stated that at the last meeting she had suggested the possi-
bility of a latch key program in Fridley. She stated it was a wonderful
program, Mr. Treuenfels had suggested she contact Tom Myhra, Director of
Comnunity Education, to see if tf�ere was any interest in pursuin� a latch
key program in the schools.
Ms. Kocher stated she did contact Mr. Myhra, and after talking to him,
she did not see how the latch key program would work. Mr. Myhra has done
some extensive searching in the community to see if there is a need for
such a program, and he has not received any response to such a program.
HUt1AN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETIN6 MARCH 15 1984 PAGE 3
Ms. Kocher stated that Mr. Myhra stated that so often it is getting the
right timing. He had stated he would make a doublecheck to make sure
there is not a need right now. In March a flyer will go out to every
home in Fridley asking if there is a need in the community for a latch
key program. If it turns out there is a need, then Community Education
is going to act on it. She stated she was glad she had looked into this,
but it was something the Comnission did not need to consider.
Mr, foodspeed stated he and Mr. Hunt met with Mr. Torkildson, Director
of Anoka County Parks & Recreation, about a month ago to talk about the
Locke House. Mr. Torkildson reaffirmed what Mr. Goodspeed had reported
to the CorrQnission at the last meeting--that there was no furniture in the
buildfng and that some work needed to be done. The front porch will be
removed by the County to make it historically correct as it was not
original7y on the house. Nohe of the work required, other than the
removal of the porch, would be hazardous to volunteers to do in order to
get the house open by the second half of the summer.
Mr, foodspeed stated he has outlined six major steps, one of which is to
obtain a list of repairs that need to be done and determine which actions
have to be undertaken before the house can be open to the public. At
the May meeting, he would like to have saneone from the Anoka County
Parks & Recreation Department and someone from the Anoka County Historical
Society meet with the Comnission in order to determine what things have
to be done in order to open the house up to the public.
Mr, Goodspeed stated that if money is needed, he felt the Commission
should do a little lobbying with either the Conty or the City. He stated
something else the Corrmission should study was how Fridley historic sites
are heing treated by the County in comparison to how historic sites in
other cities in the County are being treated.
Mr, foodspeed stated that when they determine what needs to be done and
what the County will do, he thought they should try to get some private
organizations to help, hold an organizational meeting, qet some press
releases out, and possibly request,through the media, sane furniture to
be borroyed for a few months during the summer,
Mr. Goodspeed stated he would write this up into a goal and objectives
for the work plan.
Mr. Minton stated he had no problem with this as a goal for the 1984
work plan.
MOTION BY MR. MINTON, SECOl7DED BY MR, TREUENFELS, TO APPROVE AND SUBMIT
fVORK PId1N WHICX
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE, CHAIRPERSON GOODSPEED DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
HUt1AN RESWRCES COh�fI5SI0N MEETING, MARCH 15, 1984 PA6E 4
Human Rights - No-Fault Grievance Procedure
Mr. Treuenfels stated there is one iast item that needs to be done
before they can start the No-Fault Grievance process, and that is to
make sure the grievants understand about the time limitation. The
grievant has 180 days to resolve the canplaint at the local level before
filing with the State Department of Human Rights. So, the No-Fault
Grievance committee has the responsibility to warn the grievants about
this time limitation ahead of time. He stated he had prepared a
"Grievant Agreement" the grievant would receive in addition to the
grievant information sheet.
The Comnission members recommended several changes to the "Grievant
Agreement". Mr. Hunt stated he would have the document retyped with
the changes and wo�ld distribute it with the next month's agenda.
2. NEt! BUSINESS:
a. Volunteer Mileage Legislation
Mr, Hunt stated he wanted to ca17 this to the Comnission's attention.
Volunteers are currently allowed a 9G/mile deduction on their Minnesota
income tax and the proposal is that voTunteer miles be treated the
same as business miles (20.5C/mile deduction) for state income tax
purposes. That would be a siqnificant assistance to voiunteers who are
not paid. He would urge the Comnission members to support this
leoislation as it would mean a lot to volunteer organizations.
ADJOURNMENT;
NOiZON BY MR. SRSUENFEIS� SECOtiDED gy M5. KOCXER� TO ADJOURN THE MEETZNG. UPON
A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE, CHAIRPERSON GOODSPEED DECLARED THE MAR. .25, 1984,
ADJOURf7ED AT 9:30 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
..�/�"�' '�-G�
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Recording Secretary
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HUMAN RESOURCES C0�4MISSION
WORKPLAN ?984
COMMISSIONERS:
CITY STAFF:
Brian Goodspeed, Chairman William Hunt
Robert Minton, Vice Chairman
Mary van Dan
Peter Treuenfels
Barbara Kocher
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PLANNING COMMISSIOtJ MEETING, MARCH 28, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairwoman Schnabel called the March 28, 1984, Planning Commission meeting to
order at 7:37 p.m,
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Oquist, Ms. Gabel, Mr. Svanda, Mr. Saba,
Mr. Plinton (for Mr. Goodspeed)
Members Absent: Mr. Kondrick
Others Present: Jim Robinson, Planning Specialist
Tom Blomberg, 1661 Camelot Lane
Herb Bacon, 159 Logan Parkway
Tom Moore, 6580 Central Ave. N.E.
Bob Burdick, 1316 - 66th Ave. N.E.
APPROVAL Of h1ARCH 14, 7984, PLANNING COPIMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS, GABEL, SECONDED BY l92. OpUIST� TO APPROVE TXE MRRCH 14, 1984,
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN,
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE, CHRIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY .
1. PURLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT P.S. �i84-02 HIDDEq WOODS BY
MAS E. BLOMBERG: Being a replat of the Southerly 33 feet of Lot 6,
a ong wit Lot , except the South 5 feet of the West 150 feet and
except the East 100 feet of the West 250 feet; along with all of
Lot 13, all in Revised Auditor's Subdivision No. 10, generally located
in the 6500 Block of Central Avenue.
MOTION BY MR. SVANDA� SECONDED BY FII2, MIN21�N� TO OPEN THE pUBLZC NEARZNG
ON P.S. N8C-02 BY THOMAS E, BIAMBERG.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE
PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 7:39 P.M.
Mr. Robinson stated the property was located north of Mississippi St.
and east of Central Ave. and involved the replatting of 3,1 acres of land
into 9 lots.
Mr. Robinson stated that all nine lots are up to code except for one lot,
Lot 6, which is undersized and has some setback variances because of an
existing house on Lot 5 which is 5 ft. from the proposed notherly property
line. Lot 6 is 8,890 sq. ft. and the front yard setback is proposed to be even
with the existing house, both would then be setback 60'. He stated Staff has
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VLANNING COMNISSION MEETING MARCH 28 1984 PAGE 2
discussed this in-house and with Mr. Blomberg and they felt this was the
solution for this particular lot because of the existing house on Lot 5.
Mr. Rotiinson stated Staff would recanmend the following stipulations if
the plat is approved:
1. Signed parks fee agreeMent of $13,500 for the 9 lots
�. AY{iroval of plat with variances on Lots 5 and o _
(a) Lot 6 to be 8,890 square feet
(b) Front yard will to be approximately 60 ft. at proposed setback
(c) Existing house on Lot 5 to be 5 ft. from new lot line to the north.
3. If garage is located on south side of Lot 5, a fire wall should
be provided.
4. Agree to pay all applicable assessments; street, water, storm sewer,
sanitary sewer.
5. Agree to record plat at County prior to issuance of building permits.
6. Remove tfie existing garage on Lot 6.
Mr. Robinson stated that Mr. Blomberg basically agreed with these stipulations
except for the park fee.
Mr. Blomberg stated his question on the park fee was the fact that he has an
existing structure that he is subdividing $ lots away from. Is that treated
like a subdivision from an existing dwelling? He realized he had to pay a
park fee on 8 lots, but should f�e have to pay it for 9, when there is an
existing dwelling on one lot? It is not a bare piece of land.
Mr. Robinson stated it was his understanding that this was a 4-lot plat,
and Mr. Blomberg was being charged a park fee for all 9 lots.
Ms. Schnabel stated she was not sure about this. In a residentia7 lot split,
the park fee is $75D per lot. By taking one piece of land and sp7ittin9 it
in half, does a person pay $750 for both lots for a total of $1,500 or was
it $750 for the lot split?
Mr. Blomberg stated this was a cross between a couple of different types of
property, Should they treat the house as a lot that he is subdividinq? He
did not think they should treat the house as a 9th lot.
Mr. Oquist stated this was an interesting point, and it was something that
should be defined by Staff,
Ms. Gabel stated she felt the City has a problem with park fees. She thought
the City Council had a firmly established policy that the City Council works
with at their level. It was fier understanding that thepark fee was on each
lot, whether or not there was a dwelling on it, but she could be Nrong.
Mr, Blanberg stated he has never seen a single lot split in the City where
the City charged $750 for the lot he already had and another $750 for the lot
he was creating. It was just $750 for the 1ot split.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 28 1984 PAGE 3
Ms. Gabel stated she understood what Mr. Blomberg was saying, and the
Planning Commission should ask for a guideline so they know how to answer
this question when it comes up again in tfie future.
Ms. Schnabel stated the Planning Commission obviously was not in a position
to answer Mr. Blomberg's question at tfiis meeting. She stated that, as had
been suggested, the Planning Commission wou1d like to get someone from Staff
to get a clarzfication on the park fee 6efore tfiis plat goes to the City
Council.
Mr. Oquist stated the clarification should also be brought back to the
Planning Commission to clear up tfieir understanding,
Ms. Schnabel asked if t�ere were any comments from people in the audience.
Mr. Bo6 Burdick, 7316 - 66th Ave. N.E., stated he was concerned with the size
of Lot 6. It was not in c�aracter in the Fridley suburban area to put a
house on tfiat small a lot,
Ms. Schnabel stated the Zoning Gode allows for a minimum lot size of 9,000
sq. ft, What Mr. Blomberg is proposing is a lot of 8,890 sq. ft, which is
110 sq. ft. short of the Zoning Code which is not very Much. There are many
lots in Fridley that are macfi smaller t6an that. TfiSs will require a
variance on the lot size which will he granted with the plat, t�r. Blomberg
will have to meet tbe setback requirements. If fie cannot meet those setback
requirements, he will have to go through the appeals process for a variance.
Ms. Gabel stated she was the chairperson of the Appeals Commission. She
stated one of the things that is necessary to grant a variance was a hardship.
Mr. Blomberg does have a hardship here in that the house on Lot 5 is an
existing house. The variance wasn't very large. Even if he were to qo
through the appeals process, ii was very likely the variance would be granted
6ecause it is not a very 6ig variance and he does have a�hardnhip.
MOTION BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO CLOSE TNE PUBLIC HEAP,ING ON
PS �84-02 BY THOMA5 BIAMBERG.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRGJOMAN 5CHNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING CLOSED AT 8:15 P.M.
Ms. Gabel stated she thought this plat was certainly consistent with what
they are looking at doing for this whole area. She was not rea7 happy
with the size of the one lot, but she did not know of any alternatives.
Mr. Blomberg said he could build a house on that lot; and, having seen some
of his work, she believed he would put a house on that lot that was appropriate.
She would be in favor of recommending approval of the plat,
PLANNIN6 COMt1IS5I0W MEETING MARCH 28 1984 PAGE 4
MO'!'ION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY NR. MINTON� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY CDUNCIL
APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY PLAT� P.S. N84-01, NZDAEN WOODS� BY THOMAS E, BLOMBERG,
BEZNG A REPLAT OF TFIE SOUTHERLY 33 F£ET OF LO2 b� ALONG WITH LOT 7� EXCEPT
THE SOUTX 5 FEET OP T7IE WEST 250 FE'ET AND EXCEPT THE EAST 200 FEET OF TXE
WEST 250 FEETj AI,ONG WZTH ALL OF LOT 13�ALL ZN REVISED AUDITI�R'S SUBDIVZSION
ND. 10, GENERALLY LUCATED ZN TNE 6500 BLOCK OF CENTRAL AVEI7UE, WITN THE
FOLLOWZNG STZPULATILIWS:
1. SIGNED PARXS FEE RGREEMENT OF 513�500
?. Approval of pIat with variances on Iot 5 and 6
(a) Lot 6 to be 8,890 sq. ft.
(2J Front yard wi11 be approximately 60 feet at proposed setback
(3) Existinq house on Lot 5 to be 5 ft. from new lot line t�� the north.
3. ZF GRRAGE IS LOCAT&D QN SOUTH SIDE OF LOT 6, A FIRE WALL
SfIOULD BE pROVSDED.
4, AGREE T1� PRY ALL APPISCABLE ASSESSMENTS--STREET, WATER�
STORM SEWER, SANITRRY SEWER
5. AGREE TY� RECORD PLAT AT COUNTY PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF
BUILDZNG PERMIT
6. REMOVE TXE EXISTING GARAGE ON IAT 6
7. THE PARK FEE BE CLARIFIED WZTX RESPECT T10 TXE EXZSTING
HOUSE AND THE LQT, AND TKAT THIS CLARIFZCATSON AI50 BE
GZVEN TO THE PLANNSNG COMMISSIDN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE�ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWCNfRN SCXNABEL DECLFIRED THE MOTION
C1IRRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
2. PUBLIC HEARING: REZONIN6 REQUEST, ZOA p84-01, BY TH0�1AS E. BLOMBERG:
Rezone the Easter y 200 feet of tF�ie Westerly 250 feet of Lot 7, evised
Auditor's Subdivision No. 10, from C-2 (general business) and R-2 (two
family dwellings), to R-1 (one family dwellings), and rezone from R-2
(two family dwellings) to R-1 (one family dwellings) the South 33 feet
of the East 168 1/2 feet of the westerly 218 1/2 feet of Lot 6, Revised
Auditor's Subdivision No. 10.
MOTION BY MR, OQUIST, SECONDED BY M2. SABA, TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARIl7G ON
ZOA NB4-01 BY THOMAS E. BLOFfBERG.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CNASRHOMAN SCXNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN AT 8:22 P.H.
Mr. Robinson stated the proposed rezoning to R-1 was in keeping with the
proposed plat.
MOTICW BY MR, SABA, SE�NDED BY HR. O,?UZST, TO CIASE THE PUBISC HERRZNG.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAZRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TIIE PUBLZC
HEARZNG CLOSED AT 8:24 P,M.
Mr. Oquist stated this just makes the zoning consistent with the whole
plat, and be would be in favor o4 recoimnending approval.
PLANNING COMF1ISSION MEETING, MARCH 28, 1984 PAGE 5
MOTIDN BY MR. OQUI5T, SECONDEb SY f�IIi. SVANDA� TO RECOMMEND Sp CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF REZONING REQUE52, ZOA IE84-OI� BY THOMAS E. BIAMBERG, TO REZONE
THE EA5TERLY 200 FEET OF THE WE5TEP,LY 250 FEET OF LOT 7, REVS5ED AUDITOR'5
SUBDIVI520N NO. 10, FROM C-2 (GENERAL BUSINESSJ APTD R-2 (TWO FAMILY
DWELLIP7GS) TO R-1 (ONE FRMILY DWELLINGS), AND TO RE'ZONE FROM R-2 (TWO
FAMILY DWELLING5j TO R-1 (DNE FAMILY DWELLINGS) THE SOUTH 33 FEET OF THE
EAST I68 I/2 PEET OF THE G'IESTERLY 2I8 If2 FEET OF LOT 6� REVISED AUDI.T.Of2�S
SUBDIVI570N ND. I0.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAIV SCHNABEL DECLARED TXE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Schnabel stated both the plat and rezoning request would go to
City Council on May 7, 1984.
3. RECEIVE P9ARCH 8 1984, HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. OQU25T, 5ECONDED FY MS, GRBEL� TO RECEIVE THE MARCH 8� I984,
ffOUSING & REDEU6'LOPMENT AUTHDRITY MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE IIOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAZRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
4. RECEIVE MARCH 13 1984, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMEPdT COMMISSIQN MINUTES•
MOTfON BY MR. OQUIST, SECONDED BY MR. MINTON, TO RECEIVE THE' MARCH Z3, I984,
COD9MUNITY DEVEIAPMENT C.OMMISSION MINUTE5,
Ms. Schnabel stated there was an article in the paper about Coon Rapids'
new Budqet Review Commission, It is a citizen review of the city 6udget.
The commission looks at the budget from a 1-yr. standpoinrt and a 5-yr.
standpoint, in that they see from what areas the money comes into the city
and how that money is being spent. They review the process to see if they
can make any recommendations regarding either increasing or decreasing the
budget or the size of a particular department, or any alternatives they can
suggest. She stated this has apparently been very helpful to the Coon Rapids
City Council. The Council members appreciate the time that is taken to
review the budget from a citizen standpoint and from a non-involved standpoint.
Ms. Schnabel saggested that the Community Development Commission might want
to look at this in terms of either looking at tt themselves or setting up a
project commiitee and then discussing it with the City Council.
Mr. Oquist asked Staff to include this article with the Community �evelopment
Commission's April agenda.
UPON A VOSCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANSMOU5LY.
PLANNING COMMISSI�N MEETING MARCH 28 1984 PAGE 6
5. RECEIVE MARCH 15, 1984, HUMAN RESOURCES COM�ISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. MINTON� SECONDED BY 115, GABEL� TO RECEIVE THE MAR. I5, 2984�
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES,
Ms. Gabel stated she was very surprised when she read in the minutes
that Ms. Kocf�er had contacted Tom Myhra, Director of Community Education,
regarding any community interest in a latch key program in tf�e City of
�ridley. Mr. �lyhra had said he f�ad done some extensive searching in the
community to see if there was a need for such a pro9ram and had not
received any response. She stated she did not know what kind of research
Mr. Myhra had done, but she knew so many parents in'the community who would
jump at tfie chance to have a latch key program. She stated she was one of
those parents. She stated she has never received any literature or informa-
tion asking whether or not there was a need for such a program. She felt
tF�ere was a definite need. She asked Mr. Minton to take these comments
back to the Commission and discuss this again. She stated she was very
sure there was a need in tfe community for a latch key program.
Mr. Minton stated he would take Ms. Gabel's comments back and discuss this
again with the Human Resources Commission.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED SIIE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
MOTZON 8Y MR. MINTON, SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST� TO APPROVE AND SUBMIT THE
XUMAN RE50URCES COMMISSION�S .2984 WORK PLAN TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL vOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TNE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOU5LY.
6. OTHER BUSINESS:
a. APA National Planning Conference, May 5-9, 1984, St, Paul
Ms. Schnabel stated this was open to the Planning Commission members
if any of the mem6ers were interested in attending this conference.
She asked Mr. Robinson to include the conference agenda in the next
Planning Commission agenda so they could discuss it again at the next
meeting.
The Gommission members felt it would be very beneficial to have
Jim Robinson of the Planning Dept, attend this conference.
MOTION BY MR. OQUIST� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO RECOMMEND THAT THE
CSTY SE'ND JIM ROHINSON TO SHE APA NATIONAL PLANNING CONFERENCE ON
MAY 5-9, ZR84.
UPON A VOICE VOTE�ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN 5CHNABEL DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
PLANNING COMMISSIQN MEETING MARCH 28, 1984 PAGE 7
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY 11R. OQUIST, SECONDED BY MR. MINTON, TO AD.70URN THE MEETING. UPON A
T�OICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHRIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MAR. 28, 1984,
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ADJOUI2NBD AT 9:20 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Recording Secretary
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
City of Fridley
A G E N D A
WEDNESDAY, APRIL 18, 1484
APPROUE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: MARCH 28, 1984
APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: APRIL 4, 1984
l. LOT SPLIT REQUEST: L.S. �784-03, BY GERALD B. JOHNSON:
Split off the West 1/2 of Lot 4, and all of Lots 5, 6,
and 7, Lucia Lane Addition, into three tracts as follows:
Tract A: The north 90 feet of Lot 5, along with the
North 90 feet of the East 20 feet of Lot 6, lucia Lane
Addition, the same being 6516 Lucia Lane N.E.
Tract B: That part of Lot 5 lyinq south of the North
90 feet of said Lot 5, and that part of the East 20
feet of said Lot 6, Lucia Lane Addition, the same being
6500 Lucia Lane N.E.
Tract C: Lot 7, along with the West half of Lot 4, and
that part of Lot 6 lying west of the east �QD feet of said
Lot 6, Lucia La�e Addition, the same being 1133 and 1145
Mississippi Street N.E.
2. DI
3. RECEIVE PARKS & RECREATION COMM
4. RECEIVE ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES: MARCH 27, 1984
5. RECEIVE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES: APRIL 5
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A. Motion on Page 5 on Funding of Human SeraTCes
Organizations - 1983 CDBG Funds for City Council
RECEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: APRIL 10, 1984
OTHER BUSINESS:
ADJOURNMENT:
7:30 P.M.
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLA��NING COMMISSIO�� MEETING, MARCH 28, 1984
CALI TQ ORDER:
Chairwoman Schnabel called the March 28, 1984. Planning Cortmission meetinn to
order at 7:37 p,m.
ROLL CALL:
Me�bers Present: Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Oquist, Ms. Gabel, Mr. Svanda, Mr. Saba,
Mr. Flinton (for Mr. Goodspeed)
Members Absent: Mr. Kondrick
Others Present: Jim Robinson, Planning Specialist
Tom Blomberg, 1661 Camelot Lane
Herb Bacon, 159 Logan Parkway
Tom Moore, 6580 Central Ave. N.E.
Bob Burdick, 1316 - 66th Ave. N.E.
APPROVAL OF PIARCH 14, 1984, PLANNING COMMISSIO�� MINUTES:
MOFIAV BY MS. CRBEL, SECONDED BY MR, GpUIST, TO APPROVE TXE MARCN 14, 19B4,
PLANNING COMMZSSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOZCE VOPE, ALL VOTING AYE, CXAZRWOMAN SCXNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY .
1. PURLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT P.S. A`84-02 HIDDE�� WOODS BY
A1AS E. BLOMBERG: Being a replat of the Southerly 33 feet of Lot 6,
a ong wit Lot , except the South 5 feet of the West 150 feet and
except the East 100 feet of the West 250 feet; along with all of
Lot 13, all in Revised Auditor's Subdivision No. 10, generally located
in the 6500 Block of Central Avenue.
MOTION BY MR. SVANDA� SECONDED BY 142. MINTUN� Tt� OPEN TXE PUBLZC HEARING
ON P.S. M84-07 BY THOMAS E. BLOMBERG.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAZRJJOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE
PUBLIC HEARIPG OPEN AT 7:39 P.M.
Mr. Robinson stated
and east of Central
into 9 lots.
the property was located north of Mississippi St.
Ave. and involved the replatting of 3.1 acres of land
Mr. Robinson stated that all nine lots are up to code except for one lot,
Lot 6, which is undersized and has some setback variances because of an
existing house on Lot 5 wfiich is 5 ft. from the proposed notherly property
line. Lot 6 is 8,890 sq. ft. and the front yard setback is proposed to be even
with the existing house, both would then be setback 60'. He stated Staff has
PLANNING COM1115SION MEETING MIARLN 28 1984 PAGE 2
discussed this in-fiouse and with Mr. Blomberg and they felt this was the
solution for this particular lot because of the existing house on Lot 5.
Mr. Robinson stated Staff would recanmend the following stipulati�ns if
the plat is approved:
1. Signed parks fee agreenent of 513,5�0 for the 9 lots
2. Ap{irovai of p1aL with variances nn Lots 5 and o _
(a) Lot 6 to be 8,890 square feet
(b) Front yard wi11 to be approximately 60 ft. at proposed setback
(c) Existing house an Lot 5 to be 5 ft. from new lot line to the north.
3. If garage ts located on south side of Lot 6, a fire wall should
be provided.
4. Agree to pay all applicable assessments; street> water, storm sewer,
sanitary sewer.
5. Agree to record plat at County prior to issuance of building permits.
6. Remove the existing garage o� lot 6.
Mr. Robinson stated that Mr, Blomberg basically agreed with these stipulations
except for the park fee.
Mr. Blomberg stated his question on the park fee was the fact that he has an
existing structure that he is subdividing 8 lots away from. Is that treated
like a subdivision from an existing dwelling? He realized he had to pay a
park fee on 8 lots, but should he have to pay it for 9, when there is an
existing dwelling on one lot? It is not a bare piece of land.
Mr. Robinson stated it was his understanding that this was a 9-lot plaY,
and Mr. Blomberg was being charged a park fee for all 9 lots.
Ms. Schnabel stated she was not sure about this. In a residential lot split,
the park fee is $750 per lot. By taking one piece of land and splitting it
in half, does a person pay b750 for both lots for a total of $1,500 or was
it $750 for the lot split?
Mr. Blomberg stated this was a cross between a couple of different types of
property. Should they treat the house as a lot that he is subdividino? He
did not think they should treat the house as a 9th lot.
Mr. Oquist stated this was an interesting point, and it was something that
should be defined by Staff.
Ms. Gabel stated she felt the City has a problem with park fees. She thou9ht
the City C�uncil had a firmly estahiished policy that the City Councfl works
with at their level. It was her understanding that thepark fee was on each
lot, whether or not there Nas a dwelling on it, but she could be Krong.
Mr, Blomberg stated he has never seen a single lot spiit in the City where
the City charged $750 for the lot he already had and another $750 for the lot
he was creating. It was just 5750 for the tot split.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 28, 7984 PAGE 3
Ms. Gabel stated she understood what Mr. Blomberg was saying, and the
Planning Commission should ask for a guideline so they know how to answer
this question when it comes up again in the future.
Ms. Sch�a6e1 stated the Planning Comnission obviously was not in a position
to answer Mr. Blomberg's question at this meeting. She stated that, as had
6een suggested, the Planning Commission would like to get someone from Staff
to get a clarification on the park fee 6efore this plat goes to the Gity
Council.
Mr. Oquist stated the clarification should also be brought back to the
Planning Commission to clear up their understanding.
Ms. Schnabel asked if there were any comments from people in the audience.
Mr. Bob Burdick, 1316 - 66th Ave, N.E., stated he was concerned with the size
of Lot 6. It was not in character in the Fridley suburban area to put a
house on that small a lot.
Ms. Schnabel stated the Zo�ing Code allows for a minimum lot size of 9,000
sq. ft. What Mr. Blomberg is proposing is a lot of 8,890 sq. ft. which is
11� sq. ft. short of the Zoning Code which is not very much. There are many
lots in Fridley that are much smaller than that. This will require a
variance on the lot size which will be granted with the plat, t4r. Blomberg
will have to meet the setback requirements. If he cannot meet those setback
requirements, he will have to go through the appeals process for a variance.
Ms. 6abe1 stated she was the chairperson of the Appeals Commission. 5he
stated one of the things that is necessary to grant a variance was a hardship.
Mr. Blomberg does have a hardship here in that the house on Lot 5 is an
existing house. The variance wasn't very larqe. Even if he were to qo
through the appeals process, it was very likely the variance would be granted
because it is not a very big variance and he does have a>hardship.
MOTION BY MR, SABA� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO CLOSE THE PUSLIC HEAP.ING ON
PS #84-02 BY THOMAS BLOMBERG.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE� CHAZRi90MAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE PUBL7C
$EARING CIASED AT 8:15 P.M.
Ms. Gabel stated she thought this plat was certainly consistent with what
they are looking at doing for this whole area. She was not real happy
with the size of the one lot, but she did not know of any alternatives.
Mr. Blomberg said he could build a house on that lot; and, having seen some
of his work, she believed he would put a house on that lot that was appropriate.
She would be in favor of recommending approval of the plat.
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PLANNING COMIIISSION MEETING, MARCH 28, 1984 PAGE 4
NO'!'ION BY tlS, GABEL� SEGI�VDED BY XR. MZNTON� TD RECOM1gND TD CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF PRELIY.SNARY PLAT� P.S. N84-02� HIDDEN WOODS� BY TXOMAS E. BLDY.HERG�
BEZNG A REPLAT OF THE SOUTHERLY 33 FEET OF lOT 6� ALCYJG WITN LOT 7� EXCEPT
THE SOUTN 5 FEET OP TKE WEST 250 FEET AND EXCEP2 THE EAST 100 FEET OF THC
WEST 750 FEET/ AIANG WZ2X ALL OF LUT 13�ALL IN REVISED AUDITt�R'S SUBDIVISIDN
N0. 10, GENERALLY LOCATED SN TNE 6500 BLOCK OF CBNTRAL AVEITUE� WITH TXE
FOLI4WING STIPUTATIONS:
1. SIGNED PARXS FEE ACREEXENT OF 523�500
2. Approva2 of plat with variances on Lot 5 and 6
(a) Lot 6 to be 8,B90 sq. ft.
(2) Fron[ yard wilI be approximately 60 feet at proposed setback
(3) Existing house cn Lot 5 to be 5 ft. from new 2ot line t�� the north.
3. SF CARACE IS I.00ATSD QN SDUTH SIDE OF LOT 6, A FIRE WALL
S80ULD BE PROVIDED,
4. AGREE 110 PAY ALL APPLICABLE ASSESSNENTS--STREET, 6)ATER,
STORM SEWER� SANITARY SEWER
5. AGREE TO R£CORD PLAT RT COUNTY PRIOR R1� ZSSUANCE OF
BUILDING PERMZT
6. REMOVE THE EXZSTING GARAGE ON LOT 6
7. TNE PARK F£E BE CLARZFIED WITN RESPEC2 TO THE EXISTING
HOUSE AND THE LOT� AND TXAT TXIS CLARIFICATION ALSO BE
GIVEN TO TKE PLANNSNG COMMISSION.
UPON A VOICE VOTE,ALL VOTZNG AYE, CHAIRWO+!AN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
2. PUBLIL HEARING: RE20NING REQUEST, ZOA �84-07, BY THOHAS E. BLOMBERG:
Rezone the Easter y 200 feet of t e Westerly 250 feet of Lot �ed
Auditor's Subdivision No. 10, from C-2 (gerteral business) and R-2 (two
family dwellings), to R-1 (one family dwellings), and rezone from R-2
(two family dwelTings) to R-1 (one fami7y dwellings) the South 33 feet
of the East 168 1/2 feet of the westerly 218 1/2 feet of Lot 6, Revised
Auditor's Subdivision No. 10.
MO270N BY MR. OQUZS"', SECOVDED BY MR. SABA, TO OPEN TNE PUBLIC HEARIIJG ON
ZOA k84-01 BY THOMAS E. BIAMBERG.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNC AYE, CHAIRHOMAN SCHNABEL DECLAJtED THE PUBLIC
BEARZNG OPEN AT 8:22 P.M. .
Mr. Robinson stated the proposed rezonin9 to R-1 was in keeping with the
proposed plat.
MOTIGW BY l�lR. SABA� SEQ�NDED BY NR. OpUIST, Tt� CIASE 2HE PUBLIC XERRING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL YOTING AYE� CNRZRWQ�tAN SCNNABEL DECIARED TIIE PUBLZC
SEARING CLOSED AT 8:24 P.M.
Mr. Oquist stated this just makes the zoning consistent with the whole
plat, and he Nould be in favor of reconanending approva7.
PLANNING CDMMISSION MEETING MARCH 28 1984 PAGE 6
5, RECEIVE MARCH 15, 1984, Ht1MAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTZON BY MR. MSN7'ON� SECONDED BY HS, GABEL� 21� RECEIVE SfIE MAR. I5, 1989,
f1U1.'AN RESOURCES COMMISSZON MINUTES. .
Ms. Gabel stated sBe was very surprised when she read in the minutes
that Ms. Kocher had contacted Tom Myhra, Director of Community Education,
regarding any ccHnmurtity interest in a latcfi key program in the City of
Fridley. Mr, Myhra had said he had done sane extensive searching in the
community to see if there was a need for such a program and had not
received any response. She stated she did not know what kind of research
Mr. Myhra had done, but she knew so many parents in the community who would
jump at the chance to have a latch key program. She stated she was one of
those parents. She stated she has never received any literature or informa-
tion asking whether or not there was a need for such a program. She felt
there was a definite need. 5he asked Mr. Minton to take these comments
back to the Commission and discuss this again. She stated she was very
sure there was a need in tte community for a latch key program.
Mr. Minton stated he would take Ms. Gabel's comments back and discuss this
again with the Human Resources Commission.
UPON A VOIC£ VOTE, ALL VOSING AYE, CXAZRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TIIE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
MOTZON BY 1�2, MINTON� SECONDED 8Y MR. OQUIS2, TO APPP.OVE AtJD SUBMIT THE
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMZSSION'S 1984 WORK PLAN TO THE CZTY COUNCIL.
UPON A VOIC£ VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CNAZRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TNE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
6. 07HER BUSINESS:
a. APA National Planning Conference, May 5-9, 1984, St. Paul
Ms. Schnabel stated this was open to the Planning Commission members
if any of the members were interested in attending this conference,
She asked Mr, Robinson to include the conference agenda in the next
Planning Canmission agenda so they could discuss it again at the next
meeting,
The Comnission members felt it would be very beneficial to have
Jim Robinson of the Planning Dept. attend this conference.
MOTION BY MR. OpVIST, SECONDED BY I�II2. SABR, TO RECOMMEND THAT TNE
CITY SEND JIM R087NSON TO THE APA NATIONAL PLANNING CONFERENCE ON
MAY 5-9, I984.
UPON A VOICE VOTE�ALL VOTING AYE, CNASRWOMAN SCXNABEL DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNRNIMOUSLY.
PLANNIN6 COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 28 1984 PAGE 7
ADJOURWMENT:
MOTION BY HR. QQUZST� SECONDED BY MR. MZNTON� TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. UPON A
YOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE, CHAZRWOMRN SCHNRBEL DECLARED THE MAR, 28, 1984,
PLANNING COMMISSIQN MEE22NG ADJOURNED AT 9:20 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANPJING COMMISSTON MEETIN6, APRIL 4, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairwoman Schnabel called the April 4, 1984, Planning Comnission meeting to
order at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Menbers Present: Ms. Scfinabel, Mr. Oquist, �1s. Gabel, Mr. Svanda, Mr, Kondrick
Mr, Goodspeed, Mr. Saba
Meribers Absent: None
�tliers Present: Jim Robinson, Planning Specialist
Rollie Benjamin, 7810 Univ. Ave. N.E.
Randy McPherson
Jim Benson
Steve Spraungel, 7148 East Fish Lake Rd., Plaple Grove
1. PUBLIC HEARING: RE UEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERPIIT SP #84-02 BY
ROLLIE BENJAMIN: Per Section 205.17.1, 3, F, of the Fridley City Code,
to a lo� w automobile painting and refinishing, on Lots 1, 2, 3, 4 a�d 1�,
Block 3, University Industrial Park, the same being 8070 University Avenue N.E.
MO^_'SON BY MR. KOlIDPSCK� SECpIJD�D BY MR, SABA� ?1� OPEN TXE PUBLIC NEARZNG
ON SP #84-02 BY ROLLIE BENJAMIN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIR['IOMAAI SCHNABEL DECLAP.ED TdE Pi7BLIC
FIERRZNG OPEN AT 7:32 g.N..
Mr. Robinson stated the property was located south of 81st and along
University Avenue. The special use permit request was to use the property
for a refinisfiing, painting, 6ody work-type shop.
Mr. Robinson stated Staff would recommend the following stipulations:
1. Tf�e special use permit be issued to the individual and not the
property. (He stated he had included past minutes on a similar
special use permit request in Oct, 19?5 where it was suggested
the special use permit be issued to the individual rather than the
property because if the business were to change hands, the new
owner would also have to come before the Planning Comnission to
receive a special use permit and would become acquainted with
whatever stipulations were necessary to operate the business.)
2. The body shop should provide a 1-hr. fire wall between the rest
of the building. (Apparently, this is already in place.)
PLANNING COMPIISSION MEETING, APRIL 4, 1984 PAGE 2
3. The City would like to have a plan on how paint and/or other
hazardous waste will be disposed of.
4. No outside storage of materials will be allowed without a
fenced dumpster area.
5. No junk cars will be left on site at any time,
Ms. Schnabel asked the petitioner, Mr. Benjamin, if he had any comnents.
Mr, Benjamin stated he was in agreement with what P1r. Robinson had said
and would have no probTem with abiding by those stipulations.
Mr, Benjamin stated he was presently in the automobile business af Datsun
North in frid7ey, in the service and parts business, not body work. However,
he was familiar with the body work business. He stated this was his first
venture into this type of business. He stated his partner was Randy McPherson,
who currently manages MAACO Auto Painting in Fridley. Mr. McPherson was also
at the meeting and would be glad to answer any questions.
Ms. Schnabel stated the Planning Cortmission would be interested in what
method they plan to use for the disposal of wastes and how they can assure
that paint and other pollutants will not go into the storm sewer, for instance.
Mr, McPherson stated all the waste materia7 will be hauled away. He stated
Auto Refinishers Warehouse, Inc., off 35W, handles the disposal of waste for
them. There will be no storage or accumulation of waste materials. They
keep everything clean and organized and there will not be any problems.
He stated there are some very strict regulations, and all f7amnable materials
will be handled according to those regulations.
Mr. Kondrick stated that when cars are being painted, there is alway> left-
over paint, thinners, etc. What is done with these left-over liquids?
Mr. McPherson stated that any left-over paint is given to the customer for
touch-up painting. The solvents or thinners for cleaning equipment are put
into a 55 gallon drum and then hauled away.
Ms. Gabel asked how many cars could be accommodated at one time.
Mr. McPherson stated the area is about 6,400 sq. ft. 7hey wi]7 have a spray
booth that is set up just for painting, and he figured they could probably
accomnodate about 20 cars. They would schedule according to the amount of
cars they can handle.
Mr. Kondrick asked if any of the neighboring businesses objected to this
type of operation.
Mr. Ro�inson stated the City notified the owners of the property. It is not ouG
responsibility to notify the renters of adjacent buaines5es. The manag�r.
of the building is in favor of this operation and feels it will be a
PLANNING COMP1ISSI�N MEETING, APRIL 4 1984 PAGE 3
first-class operation. As far as adjacent businesses, he assumed
Mr. Jim Benson had notified them.
Mr. Jim Benson stated he was the agent manager for the building. The owner
of the building is Prudential Life Insurance Co. Prudential is probably
more critical than the City might be. Prudential is a very cautious land-
lord and the last thing they need is anything that would tarnish the imaqe
of Prudential Life Insurance. They would not have entered into negotiations
with this project if it had not been with people they felt would run a first-
class operation. They have some very strict covenants in the lease which
prevents the business from any excess noise or outside storage problem. This
is an industrial building, and there are other industrial tenants. The
building is built sound. All the walis are fully insulated. Their main
concern was simply the nature of the business, and they are convinced that
this is an excellent company run by two people with good reputations who
are both Fridley people. He stated the lease is a 402 month lease.
Mr. Svanda stated that in the third stipulation outlined by Mr, Robinson,
he would like to see the words "disposed of" deleted and the word "manage-
ment" inserted. He stated disposal is only one part of the hazardous waste
situation to be dealt with and management talks in terms of what they are
going to be doing with the waste while it is on site. Also, instead of that
p7an just being submitted to the City, he would recommend the petitioner
be in contact with Anoka County with regard to getting the appropriate licenses
from Anoka County for the generation of hazardous waste which is required by
state law.
Mr. Benjamin stated he had no problem with that.
MOTION BY M12. SABA� SECONDED BY 1q2, KONDRICK� TO CLOSE THE PUBLZC HEARING
ON SP NB4-02 BY ROLLIE BENJAMIN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTIN6 AYE� CHAIRG70MAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE PC�BLIC
HEARING CLO5ED AT 7:47 P.M.
Mr. Saba stated this sounded like a good clean operation. He liked the idea
that the cars would all be stored inside. He stated he has done business
with MAAC� and that was a fairly well managed operation. This operation
sounded like it was a better plan than the MP.ACO facility. He stated he saw
a lot of benefits to the cormnunity with this operation.
Ms. Schnabel stated the only thing she would like the Planning Commission
to consider was the subject of whether the special use permit should be
issued to the individual and not to the property. Since there was a 40�-
month lease, perhaps they should issue the special use permit for a 40 month
period of time or the special use permit would cease to exist if the business
changed hands or was sold. At the end of the lease period, Staff could
review it to see if the conditions of the permit were being met and if it
was necessary to extend the special use permit.
PLANNING COM�tISSION MEETING, APRIL 4, 1984 PAGE 4
� MO_TION BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MH. GOODSPEED� TO RECOMMEND 21� CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT� SP I184-02� BY ROLLIE BfiNJRMIN� PER
_. SECTION 205.I7,1� 3�.(F), OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE, TD ALLOW AUTOMOBILE
PAZNTING AND REFZNISXING ON ZqTS I� 2, 3� 9 AND I0, BIACK 3� UNIVERSITY
INDUSTRSAL PARK, THE SAME BEING 8070 UNIVERSITY RVENUE N.E., WITH TNE
� FOLLOWING ST7pULATZONS:
1. THE SPECIRL USE PERNIT BE ISSUED 2L� THE INDIVIDURLS� NOT TXE
PROPERTY� TO BE REVIE47ED BY CSTY STAFF AT THE END OF THE LEASE
PERIOD.
2. THE BODY SHOP SHOULD PROVIDE A ONE-HOUR FIRE WALL BETWEEN THE
REST OF TNE BUILDING,
3. THE PETITIONER PROVIDE A PLAN RS TO NOW PAINT AND/OR OTHER
HAZARDOUS WASTE 67ILL BE MANAGED. THE PETZTIONER WILL MAKE
RPPLICATION TO ANOKA COUNTY FOR THE APPROPRIATE HRZRRDOUS
WRSTE LICENSES G7ITH R CARBON COPY TO THE CITY.
4, NO OUTSIDE STORAGE OF MATERIALS WZLL BE RLLOWED WITHOUT A
FENCED DUMPSTER AREA,
5. NO JUNKED CARS WILL BE LEFT ON-SITE RT ANY TIME.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE� CHRZRWOMAN SCXNABEL DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Schnabel stated SP #84-02 would go to the City Council on April 16.
She stated Staff would verify this date with the petitioner.
2. LOT SPLIT REQUEST: L.S. #84-02 BY G. W. PASCHKE: Split off the Southerly
30 feet of Lot 7, Block 4, University Industrial Park, and add it to
Lot 8, Block 4, University Industrial Park, to provide additional parking
for an existing building at 7922 Ranchers Road N.E.
Mr. Robinson stated this property was located just north of 79th and west
of Ranchers Road. The owner of Lot 8 is proposing that 30 feet of the
northerly Lot 7 be added to Lot 8 to provide for future parking,
Mr, Robinson stated Staff had a couple of concerns regarding this item.
One was that 30 ft. was not really adequate for parking by city code. The
total footage needed from the building to the lot line was 53 ft. With
the 30 ft., they will only have 50 ft., so they are 3 ft. short of the
footage required for parking by code. Staff felt this was a problem, and
the petitioner should be requesting 33 ft.
Mr. Robinson stated the other concern vias that these ]ots are substandard
by today's code (3/4 acre - old code; lZ acres - new code). Staff felt
that by taking 30 ft. from Lot 7 wou7d be making Lot 7 additionally sub-
standard and wou7d be creating a poor situation for development, Staff felt
Lot 7 should be combined with Lot 4 for future development. The new Lot 4
would then be slightly over 2 acres.
PLANNING COMMI55ION MEETING, APRIL 4, 1984 PAGE 5
Ms. Schnabel asked if there was a lack of parking stalls at this time.
Mr. Robinson stated he believed the potential buyer of t6e property feels
he may need more parking stalls in the future.
Mr. Steve Spra�ngel stated he was representing Mr. Paschke. The people who
occupy the building on Lot 8 are purchasin9 this property from Mr. Paschke,
and Mr. Paschke is providing them with the extra 30 ft. Mr. Paschke is
taking the position that they have to decide what they are going to do with
the additional 30 ft. Mr. Paschke did not know what the new owners' plans
were for this pcoperty, and all Mr. Paschke wanted was the lot split. The
property is in Mr. Paschke's name, but the 30 ft. will be purchased from
Dave Harris who owns Lot 7.
Ms. Schnabel stated the fact that they would be creating a really substandard
lot by recommending approval of this lot split made the decision difficult
for the Planning Commission.
Mr. Jim Benson stated he would like to address the issue of substandard lots.
He stated he was the agent for Rice Creek Associates. He stated these lots
were platted under the old code, and he was involved in all the meetings
when the City was changing the lots from 3/4 acre to lZ acres. He stated
there was nothing magic about 1; acres, nor 3/4 acre, for that matter. No
one really had any objection to the 3/4 acre lots. It was Mr. Paschke's
suggestion to chan9e it from 3/4 acre to 1; acres because of the new parking
standards in the city code and because in their eva7uations everyone felt it
would be better to have 1; acres lots. He stated a 3/4 acre lot was still
a very buildable lot. They could still put a fair-sized building on it
and provide parking and meet the code. He did not see where they were pro-
viding for a substandard lot. He stated he was sure Dave Harris would want
to say something about combining Lots 4 and 7. There may be some other
alternatives. There are three other lots, Lots 3, 4, 7. Each one is a
little over an acre, so there are over 3 acres right now. By dividing off
the 30 ft, for Lot 8, there would still be close to 3 acres in the remaining
3 lots. It might make more sense to divide the three lots evenly into two
lots.
Mr. Benson stated that parking mi9ht have been a bad word to use with this
lot split. This is a 5-year lease agreement with Boring Machine and Tool.
Boring Machine and Tool have an option to purchase the building during the
term of the lease. There is also a clause in the lease agreement that
requires Mr. Paschke to provide them with 30 more feet:alongside their
building. It was not necessarily for parking. In fact, he was not convinced
the 30 ft. was for parking. The 30 additional feet would create a better
truck maneuvering area and loading dock area. .
Ms. Schnabel stated the lot split request for 30 ft. was fine, but she wanted
to make sure that everyone understood that at a future date, if Mr. Paschke
or whoever buys the building want to put parking in that area, they will
have to come in for a variance. That variance may or may not be granted.
Ms. Gabel stated she had a problem with creating a substandard lot.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, APRIL 4, 1984 PAGE 6
Mr. Goodspeed agreed with Ms. G6be9.
Mr. Robinson stated Staff would recortmend the following thr�e stipulations:
l. Lot 7 should be combined with
2. 33 ft. should be added to Lot
provide parking as per code.
3. Landscaping and curbing will
Lot 4 for future development.
8(instead of 30 ft.) to
be continued at time of development.
Mr. Svanda stated he did not see the size of Lot 7 being a little smaller
as being an issue of concern.
Mr, Benson stated they still have a very viable lot at .92 acre. Under
today's code, they can even put a 15,000 sq. ft. building on that lot and
meet all code requirements. That is a fair-sized building and not substandard
by any means.
Mr. Oquist stated he did not see anything wrong with granting this request.
He would be in favor of approving the request, but the Commission should
point out that if tfiis property is to be used for parking in the future,
either 33 ft. or a variance will be required.
MOTION BY MR. OQUIST� SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF LOT SPLIT REQUEST� LS i84-02� HY G. G7. PASCNKE, TO SPLST OFF
THE SOUTHERLY 30 FEET OF LOT 7� BI.00K 4� UNIVERSITY INDUSTRIAL P11RK� AND
ADD IT TO LOT 8� BLOCK 4� UNIVERSITY INDUSTRIAL PARK, TO PROVIDE ADDITIONRL
PARKING FOR RN EXISTING BUILDING AT 7922 RANCHERS ROAD N.E. G7ITH THE FOLLOW-
ING STZPULATIONS:
Z. LANDSCAPING AND CURBING WILL BE CONTINUED AT TIME OF DEVEZAPMENT.
2. IT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT 33 FT, OR A VARZANCE IS REQUZRED PER CITY
CODE IF PARKING IS EVER CONSIDERED FOR THIS PRDPERTY.
Ms. Gabel stated she understood there was room enough to put a substantial-
sized building on Lot 7, but she had a problem with approving something
that, in effect, created a substandard lot by today's code. She would like
to have some clarification from the City Council on how they felt a6out
these types of situations.
Mr. Oquist stated they are not developing new lots with a new plat. The
lots are already there at the old standard and, therefore, are not substandard
lots.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� SCNNABEL�"OQUIST� SABA� GOODSPEED� SVANDA� KONDRICK�
YOTING RYE, GRBEL VOTING NAY, CNAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTZON CARRZED,
Ms. Schnabel stated this item would go to City Council on April 16, and
Staff would verify that with the petitioner.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING APRIL 4 1984 PAGE 7
3. RECEIVE MARCH 21, 1984, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. SVANDA� SECONDED BY MR, KONDRICK� TO RECEIVE THE MAR, 2I� 2984�
ENVIRONMENTAL QURLITY COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, RLL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TNE MOTION
CARRIED UNA?JIMOUSLY.
4. OTHER BUSINESS:
a. APA National Planning Conference, May 5-9, St. Paul
Because of work commitments and other commitments, none of the Planning
Commission members felt they would be able to attend this national
Planning Gonference.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTZON BY MR. GDODSPEED� SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO AAJOURN THE 1fEETING. UPON A
VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIR4)OMAN SCNNABEL DECLARED THE RPRIL 4� I984,
PLRNNIl7G COMAfISSZON MEETING ADJDURNED RT 9:10 P.M.
Respectfully subm �tted,
"�X-i' c�_rc�
ynn Sa a
Recording Secretary
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AD�RESS(ES)_ 712 River Lane, Anoka, Minn, 55303
PROPERTY LUUI�ION ON STREET Lucia Lane_and Mississippi Street
LEGAL DESCRiPT10N OF PROPERTY
The West 1/2 of Lot 4 and all of Lots 5, 6, and 7
TOTAL AREA OF PROPERTY �4,100 cn_ ft � PRESENT 20N1NG_
REASOH FOR LOT SPLIT To make two (2) residential lots on Lucia Lane
The undersigned�Aereby declares tM t•11 the tacts and representations stated in this
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CITY Of FRIDLEY
PARKS & RECREATION COMh1IS5I0N
MEETING
MARCH 26, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Kondrick called the March 26, 1984, Parks & Recreation Comnission
meeting to order at 7:40 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present
Menbers Absent:
Others Present:
Dave Kondrick, Jan Seeger, Dan Allen
Mary Schrei�er, Dick Young
Charles Boudreau, Parks & Recreation Director
Jack Kirk, Recreation Supervisor
APPROVAL OF FEBRUARY 13� 1984, PARKS & RECREATIOP! COHMISSI�N MINUT[S:
MOTION BY MR. ALLEN� SECONDED BY MS. SEEGER, 11� APPROVE THE FEB. 13� Z984,
PARXS & RECREAPION COMMISSION MINUTES AS 67RITTEN,
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL YOTING AYE� CXAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED TIfE 1NOTZON
CARRSED UNANZMOUSLY.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
The following item was added to the agenda:
Softball Tournament Requests - Spring Lake Park Ambulance and
Joe's Place Pizza - item b under "New Business"
MOTION BY M5. SEEGER� SECONDED BY MR. ALLEN� TO APPROYE THE AGENDA AS AMENDED.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CXAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE MO?'ION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. �
7. DIRECTOR'S REPORT:
a. 1983-84 Warming House and Ice Area Report
Dr. Boudreau stated he had hoped to have the attendance and warming
house reports for this meeting. Ne apologized for the delay, but
stated he would have this information for the next meeting, along
with f�is recomnendation of what they might provide as far as ice areas
for the winter of 1984. If the numbers in the house league hockey
PARKS & RECREATION CONMISSION MEETING MARCH 26 i984 PAGE 2
program are sti]� down, that may be justificaiion to either eliminate
or designate some different alternatives for those hockey rinks.
They started with 10 hockey rinks designated for the City, 9 of them
used by the HAF. To his knowledge, the HAF �sed 3 of those rinks
last year.
b. Rice Creek School
Dr, Boudreau stated he would give the Commission a brief overview of
what has developed with the Rice Creek Schao] property. He stated
Tom Brickner has purchased the land at Rice Creek School from the
School Board. It is going to be developed residential which means the
City should develop some type of park facility to serVice the Rice
Creek School area residents. Mr. Brickner's required dedication to the
park development was .09 acres, At the last meeting, the Commission
agreed that amount of land was not adequate, because the City had
recommended 3-5 acres to service over 2,000 people in this isolated
Rice Creek School area.
Dr, Boudreau stated discussions were held with Mr. Brickner, but
Mr, Brickner was not willing to give up prime buildable lots for park
land. He had suggested some land further to the south by buying two
back lots of two existing homes. There is a 7 ft. drop between what
park is there now and this new land, and it is essentially a drainage
area for the neighborhood. He stated he cou7d not accept that land
because it was substandard, and the Commission agreed with him.
Dr. Boudreau stated that since that time, Tom Blom6erg has bought sane
property from Herb Bacon and the Gena-Rae Addition which is in the center
and West of the school. Between
the three parcels of property, the City will ena up with 2.2 acres of
dedicated park land. He stated that in his estimation this was the best
they could do with the given parameters•
Mr. Kondrick outlined the proposed developments and park area on the map.
Dr. Boudreau stated the Commission might want to stipulate that there be
an easement from 66th Ave. to the new proposed park.
Mr, Kondrick asked about the recreational facilities presently located
at the school.
Or. Boudreau stated he has been told by Mr, Brickner that there would be
no problem in removing the recreational equipment; however, he stated it
might be a good idea for the Commission to make a motion as part of the
final commitment by the City Council on this plan, the City should be
allowed to remove all the equipment on the school ground that is currently
there and usable for park and recreation purposes. 7his wou7d inc]ude
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETIN6 MARCH 26 1984 PAGE 3
2.
the hockey rink with lights, playground equipment, tennis court equip-
ment including fencing, basketball pole, lights along the east side
along Arthur Street, and the back stop.
PLRN, THE CITY BE �ALLC�JED TO
UPOH A AOZCE YOTE, ALL VOTING AYE�
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
c. Ethnic Festival
THE
Qr. Boudreau stated he wanted to re�nind t
6th annual Fridley Ethnic Festiva] which will
at the Fridley Cortmunity Education Center. He
CoRmissioners to attend the festival whic(� is
Comnunity Education and the Park, Recreation�
Department.
NEW BUSINESS:
a. Softball Tournament Request - Fridley Jaycees
COUNCIL ON THSS
KONDRICK DECLARED THF,
he Commissioners of the
be held on March 30-31
would invite t6e
a combined program between
and Natural Resource
Dr. Boudreau stated that at the last meeting, the Comnission approved
a tournament request by the Jaycees for Aug. 11-12. Evidently, they
generally have a regional Jaycee tournament held each year which has been
run by the Crystal Jaycees. The Fridley Jaycees wrote in a letter that,
"at a very late date, however, the Crystal ,laycees determined they would
not be able to run the tournament this year. The Region contacted the
Fridley Jaycees and requested that we bid and run this tournament.
Regional tournament is always run the week before state tournament. State
tournament is already scheduled for Aug. 17-12 in St. Cloud. Fridley
Cortenunity Park has a tournament scheduled for the weekend of Aug. 11-12,
and it is our understanding that the policy is that the fields cannot
be scheduled for tournaments on two consecutive weekends. Our preference
would be the weekend of Aug. 4-5, but if you must absolutely hold to
that, which we fully understand, our next choice would be July 28-29".
b. Softball Tournament Requests - Spring Lake Park Ambulance Program
and Joe's Place Pizza
Dr. Boudreau stated the tournament request by the Spring Lake Park
Ambulance Program was marked as a non-profit City of Fridley organiza-
tion. Their 7etter {on Independent School District #16 7etterhead)
stated: "The Spring Lake Park Senior High Ambulance Program is a non-
profit organization that operates two ambulances that are licenses by
Health Central, Inc., based at Unity Medical Center in Fridley. The
program participants are high school students in training to be nationally
certified emergency medical technicians as well as graduates who provide
PARKS & RECREATION COMMI55ION MEETING, MARCH 26, 1984 PAGE 4
community education and CPR first aid in EMT training, emergency care
consultation to hospitals, health care professiona7s, ath7etic training,
and hundreds of volunteer hours a year through a standby ambulance.
5ince 1976 the OEC (Opportunities in Emergency Care) program has grown
from obscurity to a program recognized throughout the U.S, and Canada....
The past five consecutive years this group has won wor7d championship
in emergency care competition, and it is our desire to continue this
excellence by attending the International Rescue and Emergency Care
Association conference and competition to be held in Cherry Hi71s, N.J.,
in Aug. 1984. In order to do this, we are raising money through hake
sales, dances, car washes, cookie and candy sales, teaching CPR, to
finance the educational trip to Cherry Hills. Your approval to hold a
tournament would enable us to send more teams (students)to competition
this year and also provide Fridley area residents a safer place ta live.
Students fran Fridley attend Spring Lake Park Dist. 16 schools and many
are enrolled in our emergency care education classes open to residents
of Fridley. We feeT we are definitely qualified as a non-profit City
of Fridley organization status",
Dr. Boudreau stated that it is a 5pring Lake Park Schooi District acti-
vity and technica77y Spring Lake Park encompases part of Fridley, which
then makes it a Fridley non-profit organization.
Mr. Kirk stated he had talked to both Dr. Chris Huber, Superintendent
of District 16 Schools, and the person who runs this program, and both
had assured him someone would be at this meeting to answer questions.
Dr. Boudreau stated no tournament date was requested, and the only date
available would be the last weekend in August.
Dr. Boudreau stated the other request was from Joe's Place Pizza,
The application was brought in the day of the meeting, He stated they
had thanked the applicant for his application but to7d him things were
going to be tight this year, If someone cancels out or someone doesn't
run a tournament for some reason, hopefully, the City would know enough
in advance and he would be first in line for that cancel7ation.
Mr. Kirk stated he explained the policy of 8 tournaments, but that they
don't feel they will be ready for 8 tournarr+ents this year and will be
recommending only 7 tournaments this year, eliminating the first weekend
in May. Mr, Kirk told him this request would go to the Commission, and
they would see what they could do in putting his request on a waiting
]ist. The applicant agreed to this and felt this was fair.
Dr, Boudreau stated he would recommend the Commission approve the
Fridley Jaycees' tournament request for the weekend of July 28-29; give
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 26 1984 PAGE 5
tentative approva] to School District 16 Ambulance Program until he
can contact them and find out if they,in fact, are in a position
6oth financially and manpo�er-wise to run a tournament, and if the
weekend of Aug. 25�26 would work out for them; and to place Joe's
place Pizza's tournament request on a waiting list, in the event that a now
scheduled tournament is cancelled.
MOTION BY MS. SEEGER� SECONDED BY MR. ALLEN, TO APPRDVE THE SOFTBALL
TOURNAMENT REQUEST BY THE FRIDLEY JAYCEES FOR THE WEEKEND OF JilLY 28-29,
.2989; TO GZVE TENTATIVE APPROVAL FOR A 50FTBALL TOURIPAMENT ON AUG,25-26�
2989� TO THE SPRING LAKE PARX AMBULANCE PROGRAM OF 5CHODL DISTRICT kZ6
UNTIL FURTHER INFORMA2ION IS OBTAINED� AND TO PLACE JDE'S PLACE PIZZA
ON A WAITING LIST IN THE EVENT OF R T1�UR171LHENT CANCELLATION,
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY.
4. OTHER BUSINESS:
Mr. Kondrick stated that Steve Nelson is the new appointment who will be
replacing Jan Seeger on the Commission. He stated Ms. Seeger has contri-
buted a lot to this Commission over the past years. He felt her contribu-
tion has been invaluable. He stated the Commission will really miss her,
and he hoped that some time in the future she would consider coming back
to the Commission. He would like to thank her very much for helping him and
the other Commission members do the job they are supposed to do.
Dr. Boudreau stated that in the eight years he has been Parks & Recreation
Director, they have done a lot and seen a lot accomplished in and for the
City of Fridley. Ms. Seeger has been an influence in that along with the
other Corrnnission members. He stated he hated to see her leave the Commission,
but she has put much time and energy into this Cortmission and now has bigger
and better things she would like to do. They appreciated the help Ms. Seeger
has given, both as a member of the Parks & Recreation Cor.+mission and as a
member of the Springbrook Nature Center Foundation.
Mr, Allen stated he would like to reiterate what has been said. When he
became a Comnission member, Ms. See9er made him feel very comfortable and he
rea7ly appreciated that. He stated he will always respect her because she
stuck by her principles and aiways conducted herself with a lot of class,
no matter what the sitaation, He stated the Commission will really miss her.
Ms. Seeger stated being a member of the Parks & Recreation Commission has
been a very interesting time in her life, She was happy that she could serve
as long as she did.
PARKS R RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 26 ]984 PAGE 6
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTZON BY MS. SEEGER� 5ECONDED BY M72. ALLEP7� TO ADJOURIJ THE MEETING. UPON A
VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTINC AYE� CHAIRPERSON XONDRICK DECLARED THE MARCH 16� 2984�
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:30 P,M.
Respectfully submitted,
J
yn Saba
Recording Secretary
CITY Of FRIDLEY
ENERGY COMMISSION
MEETIN6
PIARCH 27, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Saba called the March 27, 1984, Energy Commission meeting to order
at 7:36 p.m.
RQLL CALL:
Members Present: Dean Saba, Bruce Bondow, Dale Thanpson
Members Absent: Brad Sielaff
Others Present: Jim Robinson, Planning Specialist
APPROVAL OF FEBRUARY 28, 7984, ENERGY COPIMISSION MINUTES:
MQ.^I01'1 BY MR. BONDOF7� SECONDED BY MR. THOMPSON� TO APPROVE THE FEH. 28, 1984�
ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRZTTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTTNG AYE, CNAZRPERS017 SABA AECLARED THE MOTIOM CARRZED
UNIWZMOUSLY.
1. COP�TINUED: COMPUTERIZED ENERGY PLANNING PROCESS
The Cosrmission spent a major part of the meeting continuing to fill out
and complete the energy data collection forms.
Mr. Robinson supplied the data for annual fuel usage and annual diesel and
gasoline usages for the City.
Mr. Saba stated that at the last meeting he had said he would call the
Energy Shed and try to get sane marketing data regarding wood use in the
hope of trying to get an idea of how many homes heat with wood in the City
of Fridley. He stated that, apparently, the Energy Shed has gone out of
business.
Mr. Saba stated he would either go over the energy data collection forms
with Ms. Janice Thompson, Land Use Planner for the Energy Agency, or would
ask her to come to a meeting to review the data with tfie Commission.
2, OUTLINE Of 1984 WORK PROr,RAM:
Mr. Saba stated that each year the Comnission tries to develop some kind of
plan or goal for tfie City of fridley regarding its energy usage, energy
development, energy data, conservation, etc. A couple of years ago, the
EN[RGY COMNISSION MEETING MARCN 27 1984 PAGE 2
Canmission decided to put the work plan into two goals: (1) Set an energy
conservation example for the citizens of Fridley by reducing energy consump-
tion by city operations by 10%; (2) Promote energy conservation within the
residential sector and reduce energy usage by 20%.
Mr, Saba stated that before the next meeting, he would like the Commission
members fio think of any ideas or projects they would like to see the
Commission get involved in that cou7d be incorporated in the 1984 work plan.
Mr. Saba stated the Commission might want to review the Residential P1aintenance
Code again. He understood the State has incorporated some more rigid standards
on rental properties. The Commission looked at the Residential Maintenance
Code at one time and modified the Code to include items the State required
with a 5-yr, payback. Now there is a whole new list of tfiings the State
requires with a 10-yr, payback. They should revise the Code to correspond
with the State Code. He asked Staff to include a copy of the Residentia7
Maintenance Code in their next agenda.
Mr, Bondow stated the Commission might want to recommend setting up modet
zoning ordinances on wind, solar, and earth-sheltered buildings. 7hat could
be included in the work plan.
Mr, Saba stated that at the January meeting, Mr, Bondow brought in manufacturers'
literature on CO monitors and chemical badges, ranging in price from $2-b95.
The Commission had asked Staff to pass this information on to Mr. Jim Hill,
Public Safety Director, asking him for comments on distri6ution and promotion
of the CO monitor. P1r. Boardman �ad stated this information should also be
sent to Mr. Bob Aldricfi, Fridley Fire Chief,
Mr, Saba stated the Coimnission has not received any input back from either
Mr. Hill or Mr. Aldrich. He asked Mr. Robinson to check to see if these
people had received that information.
Ptr. Bondow stated he would like to see the Commission consider the possibility
of buying one of these devices that reads out tfie actual parts per million in
concentration and have it available for check-out with a set of instructions
on how to use it. The check-out system could be similar to the picnic kits
that are checked out fran the Parks & Recreation Department.
Mr. Saba stated that was an excellent idea, and the Commission should check
into it.
The Commission updated and worked on the work plan for the remainder of the
meeting. Discussion on the work plan was continued until the next meeting.
ENERGY COM�IISSION MEETING MARCH 27 1984 PAGE 3
ADJOURNMENT•
MOTION BY MR. BONDpW, SECONDED BY MR. TNOI�SQN, 210 ADJOURN THE MEETING. UPON
A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CARIRPERSIJN SABA DECLARED R7fE MARCH 27� 1984�
ENSRGY COMMISSION MEETING AA70URNED AT 9:I6 P.M.
Respectfully subm', ted,
�
yn Sa6a
Recording Secretary
CI7Y OF FRIDLEY
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION
MEETING
APRIL 5, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Goodspeed called the April 5, 1984, Human Resources Comnission
meeting to order at 7:33 p.m.
ROLL CALL;
MeMbers Present: Brian Goodspeed, Bob Minton, Peter Treuenfels,
Barbara Kocher, Arlie Niemf
M�bers Absent: None
Others Present: Officer Gary Lenzmeier, Fridley Police Dept.
APPROVAL OF MARCH 1, 1984�HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES:
MO".'ION BY MR. TREUENFELS� SECONDED BY MS. KOCHER� TO RPPROVE THE MARCH 1, Z984,
HU1fAN RESIXIRCES COMMISSION .NINUTES AS P7RITTEN,
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE� CfIAIRPERSON GOODSPEED DECLARED TXE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
APPROVAL OF A6ENDA:
The following item was added to the agenda as Item �2 before "Old Business":
"Discussion with Officer Gary Lenzmeier on the Issue of Child Restraints"
Chairperson Goodspeed declared the agenda approved as amended.
1. WELCOME NEW MEMBER, ARLIE NIEMg, 5368 MATTERHORN DRIVE N.E.:
Mr. Goodspeed welcomed Ms. Niemi to tfie Commission and introduced her
to the Commission members. He asked Ms, Niemi to tell the Commission
a]ittle bit about herself and her background.
Ms. Niemi stated she is a citizen of Fridley. She has two children, one
daughter and one son. She has a Masters Degree in Business Management
which she received fran Southwestern University of Tusson. She is also
a registered nurse and currently employed by Group Health at the Como Clinic.
2. DISCUSSION ON THE ISSUE OF CNILD RESTRAINTS - DFFICER 6ARY LENZMEIER:
Mr, Goodspeed stated tfiat at the last meeting, the Commission had agreed
to invite someone from the Police Dept. to discuss the issue of child
restraints.
HU11AN RE50URCES COMMISSION MEETING, APRII 5 1984 PAGE 2
Officer Lenzmeier stated he has been a police officer in the City of Fridley
for about 11 years. During that time, he has gotten to know the people of
Fridley and tfie City very well. He stated that for tfie last four years,
he has been a corporal and_was recently promoted to sergeant. He stated
he was asked to come to the meeting to answer any questions the Commission
had about seat belts.
Ms. Kocher stated the Commission's major concern was child restraints and
why tfie state law that was passed that chiidren 4 and under must be in
child restraint devices did not seem to be being implemented in the City of
Fridley. They felt the Commission s6ould let the Police Dept. know that
this was a concern of theirs and felt that iF t�e City of Fridley took a
stand on this issue, maybe people would do something about it. If people
knew that they could not get through Frid7ey without being stopped for
vio]ation of this law, think how many babies would be fastened. She stated
that if you are an adult and you do not wear a seat belt, you are making a
poor decision, but an adult also has to make that decision for a child and
a child has tfie right to be safe in a car.
Officer Lenzmeier stated that was a nice thought, and he wished it could
fiappen; however, there was a problem even with the law. The law does not
talk about just any child in the car, An adult could have someone else's
children in the car, and that adult was not responsible to have those children
fastened. The law only specifies that a �arent must fasten his/her own
chiidren. So, just because someone sees a�ild in a car does not necessarily
mean tfiat child's parent is the driver of the car. He handed out copies of
the state law to the Comnission members.
Officer Lenzmeier stated another problem is that there is a lot of public
opposition to the law, because there are a lot of people who do not believe
that seat belts he7p them. He stated they sti71 have some police officers
in Fridley who do not fasten their seat belts, and seat belts have been
installed in cars for 10-15 years. He felt a big change happened to the
police nfficers when Officer Neil Duncan was in an accident which forced him
to retire from the Police Dept. He believed that if Officer Duncan had been
wearing a seat be7t when he was involved in that accident, most likely he
would still be working fnr the Police Dept. But, he is handicapped and will
never work again. After this, a lot of officers started fastening their seat
belts.
Officer Lenzmeier stated that about a month aqo, he heard an Anol:a County
officer make the comment on the po7ice radio that he does not use a seat
belt and never will. Recently, someone bought a full-page ad in the P1pls.
Star & Tribune against the wearing of seat belts. ke stated the public is
scattered with ideas and opinions about seat belts.
Officer Lenzmeier stated that severa] years ago, Minnesota used to have a
helmet law for motorcyclists. Because of a small interest group, they no
longer have that law. As a police officer, he was aware that every time
there was a motorcycle accident, their central comnunications unit sends an
HUNAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING APRIL 5 1984 PAGE 3
ambulance automatically because the likelihood of injury is so great. He
has personally been at severa7 motorcycle accidents where because the person
was not wearing a helmet, fie/she either died or fiad sane severe injury.
Officer Lenzmeier stated it was nice to want laws about seat belts and helmets,
but as long as there is a group of people who don't want those laws in place,
it is very difficult. It is difficult for them as a police department when
there are several officers who do not wear seat belts. It appeared to him
that this law was created with enough loopholes to satisfy the small majority.
Officer Lenzmeier stated another prob7em the Commission may not be aware
of in the law was that if a police officer finds a parent who has his/her
children unrestrained and the officer gives the parent a ticket, all the parent
has to do is get a child restraint device or show evidence that one has been
purchased and no fine will be imposed. Only on the second violation can a
fine be issued of $25. He felt that if the people who made the law wanted it
to have any teeth, it should have been a fine on the first violation and it
should not be just for parents with their own children but anybody's children.
Another problem is: How does a police officer judge fiow old a child is?
Officer Lenzmeier stated this law was passed in 1983, and the Police Dept.
got a copy of the statutes just recently. He did not be7ieve any of the
Frddley police officers have enforced the law. If they could stop cars on
just University Ave. for violation of tfiis law on, for example, a 4th of July
weekend, the traffic would really be stacked up. Would that have an impact?
He stated it probably would, but police officers have other things they have
to do besides look for children not wearing seat belts. The seat belt issue
is just like the drunken driving issue. 7hey can only stop so many. ?hey
are only going to see change when the public decides to change its attitude
a6out the law and conform to the law. Then it wi11 work. But, if they are
going to try to make people conform to the law, there will be problems.
Officer Lenzmeier stated he felt public education was the prime goal.
Recently, a video presentation was shown to the City employees on
the reasons why seat belts should be worn. He stated it was a very good
presentation, and he hoped that all the police officers will be able to see
it. A big part of the presentation was about seat belt use for children.
Mr. Minton asked if the Police Dept. or the Director of Public Safety had
established any priorities as far as the kinds of arrests that should be made.
Officer Lenzmeier stated there were no formal statements. The police officers,
individually, have set up sane kind of a priority system. In Fridley, they
haae a reputation for arresting drunk drivers. They have done a very good
job of that, and that has taken a tremendous effort for the afficers, because
every arrest for drunken driving takes about two hours.
Ms. Kocher stated she would definitely prefer to have the police officer
stop the speeder before stopping saneone with a child who is not fastened,
but if a police officer is just driving along and sees someone with children
who are not fastened, why not stop that person, as long as it is not inter-
HUt4AN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING APRIL 5 1984 PAGE 4
fering with anything else? Maybe, all the police officer would have to do
is te]] the person that there is a state ]aw and children should be
restrained. She felt that would have a definite effect on some people,
especially women. Her concern was that children do not have choices when
they are young, and the law is there to protect them. 8ecause people have
different avenues of thinking about seat helts, they keep forgetting about
the chi3dren who do not have that choice.
Officer Lenzmeier stated he had doubts about the effectiveness of just
warning people without issuing tickets.
Mr. Goodspeed asked if Fridley had a quote system.
Officer Lenzmeier stated they have an evaluation system, not really a quota
system, where they expect the officers to perform police duties, and for the
evaluation system, they can do a variety of functions to pass their evaluation,
Ms. Kocher stated the Commission just wants the Police Dept, to know the
Canmission is supportive of the child restraint 1aw. They understand the
Police Dept. has many laws, and they cannot all be #1 in priority, but they
would like this looked at a little more carefully. In their 1984 work plan,
the Comnission had indicated tfiey will pro6ably go to tfie City Council and
7et them know that this is one of the Commission's major concerns.
Officer Lenzmeier stated this law was not completely new this year. In 1982
there was a law where the police officers were supposed to pass out an
informationa7 brochure to parents entitled, "Officers Love Kids, Too".
Officer Lenzmeier stated he has three children, and he cannot imagine them
putting a seat belt on without seeing him do it. If there is a seat belt
law, there should be a seat belt law that covers everyone, not just the
children. Children learn by examp7e and just being concerned for the children
is not enough. To be effective, the law has to have some impact. It cannot
just be the easy warning thing and then, after several offenses, a ticket of
only $25. Then the media should get ahold of it and make it public so people
know about it. He wanted the law to be effective and for the City to try
to enforce this weak area of enforcement, he did not think it would make an
impact.
Mr, Minton stated he thought the Commission members would agree that education
in conjunction with enforcement was certain7y more effective, and there is no
general education on this issue and there probably should be more. Even
without that, he thought some effort of stopping people violating the law would
gradua7ly develop a little reputation that would be helpful, and that is what
the Comnission would like to see.
Officer Lenzmeier stated he was at the meeting to provide information to the
Commission. The Commission could think about what he had said and make
whatever reco�nendations they felt were necessary. He stated that if the
Cortmission had any other questions and would like to discuss this further, he
would be willing to come back to another Cortanission meeting.
HUHAN RESOURCES COMMISSIa MEETING, APRIL 5, 1984 PAGE 5
Mr. Minton stated he would like some time to think about the infornation
Office Lenzmeier had prvdided and discuss it again at the next meeting.
MOTION BY MR. MINTON� SECONDED BY MS, NIEMI� TO CONTINUE DZSCUSSION ON
THIS�STEM UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPEF.SON COOASPEED DECLARED THE
MfJTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3. OLD BUSINESS:
a. Consideration of Funding of Human Service Organizations - 1983
CDBG Funds
Based on the information received from the human service organizations
seeking funding and using the Comnission guidelines and HUD guidelines,
the Commissioners scored the grant applications individually at home.
At the meeting, the Commissioners collated their individual scores and
calculated the average scores for each organization.
The human service organizations requesting funding and their average
scores ranked as follows:
1. SACA 76.5 %
2. Central Center for Family Resources 74.25%
3. Anoka County CAP 73.0 %
4. Senior Citizens Center 69.5 %
Based on the fact that there was approximately $17,000 in CDBG funds
available for human service funding, using the above percentages, the
Commission multiplied the percentages times the amount requested and
rounded out the numbers to come up with the following recommendations:
1. SACA
2. Central Center for Family Resources
3. Anoka County CAP
4. Senior Citizens Center
Amt. Requested Amt. Recomnended
for Fundinq
$ 6,500.00 $ 5,000.00
5,000.00 3,700.00
5,704.60 4,150.00
6,000.00 4,150.00
2 , 04.60 7,000.00
HUP1AN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING APRIL 5 1984 PAGE 6
UPON R VOZCE VOTE� AZL VOTZNG AYE� CHAIRPERSON GOODSPEED DECLARED
TXE MOTION CARRIED UNARIMOUSLY.
b. Review of 1984 Work Plan
Mr, Minton stated that at the March 28th Planning Commission meeting
when the Planning Commission reviewed the Human Resources Commission's
1984 work plan, some questions were raised about the latch key program.
Ms. Gabel had stated she felt there was a definite need in the City
of Fridley for a latch key program. She knew many parents who wouid be
interested, and she questioned Mr, h1yhra's"extensive search of the
community" to see iP tf�ere was a need. The Planning Comnission felt the
Human Resources Commission should renew their interest in the latch key
program and do some further investigating.
Ms. Kocher stated Mr. Myhra had aiso stated a flyer would go out in
March to every home in Fridley asking if there was a need for a latch
key program in the canmunity. She stated she would contact Mr. Myhra
to see if this flyer was mailed and if there was any response.
Mr, Minton suggested Ms. Kocher call the director of The Learning Tree
to see if they get any ca71s from parents inquiring about before and
after school care.
Ms. Niemi stated another resource might be the school nurses.
Mr. Plinton stated he also got the indication from the Planning Commission
that the Human Resources Commission should also be reviewing the City's
Affirmative Action Plan every year, especially employment practices
regarding wanen in tF�e city's work force--recruitment, fiiring, and
promotion.
Mr. Goodspeed stated they should add this to the work plan under Human
Rights.
Mr. Goodspeed stated he would have Dave Torkildson, Anoka County Parks
and Recreation Director, and Maxine Larson, Nead of Anoka County
Historical Society, at the next Comnission meeting to discuss the
Banfill House (Locke House).
3, NEW BUSINESS:
a. Recognition of Mary van Dan
� MOTION BY MR. TREUENFELS� SECONDED BY MR, MINTON� TO PASS A RESOLUTION
SXPRESSING THE XUMAN RESOURCES�COMMISSION'S DEEP NEARTFELT GRATZTUDE
TO MARY VAN DAN FOR HER MANY YEARS OF DEVOTED SERVSCE TO THE HUMAN
RESOURCES COMMISSION AND THE PEOPLE OF FRIDLEY.
DPON A VOICE YOTE� ALL VOTING RYE� CHAIRPERSON GOQDSPEED DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING APRIL 5 1984 PAGE 7
Mr. Minton stated that if Ms. van Dan is to receive sane type of
document from the City for her many years of service, it would be
nice if this resolution could accompany that document.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY HR, MIN2t�N� SECONDED BY FIIZ. TREUENFEIS� TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. UPON
A VOSCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CXAIRPERSA`1 GOODSPEED D£CLARED TXE APRIL 5� Z984�
flUMAN RE50URC8S COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:35 P.M.
Res ectfully sub itted,
✓� t�
Lyr�e Saba
Recording Secretary
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APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, APRIL 10, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Gabel called the April 10, 1984, Appeals Comnission meeting to
order at 7:33 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Menbers Present
Mer�bers Absent
Pat Gabel, Alex Barna, Jim Plemel, Jean Gerou, Donald Betzold
None
Otliers Present: Darrel Clark, City Staff
Michael Cardinal, 1772 S. Robert, West St. Paul
David Helman, 1601 - 73; St. N.E.
Dawn Helman, 1601 - 73z St. N.E.
Beverly Thompson, 5850 - 5th St. N.E.
Mark Burch, 420 - 57th Place N.E.
APPROVAL OF FEBRUARY 14, 1984, APPEALS COMMISSI(1N MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS, GEROU� SECONDED BY MR. BARNA� TO APPROVE THE FEB. 14, I984, APPERZS
Cp1fMISSION MINUTES AS WR72TEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED TffE MOTION CARRIED
UNANZMOUSLY.
1, REOUEST FOR VAR
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FRIDLEY CITY CODE, TO
E APPROVE� BY COUNCIL
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SIGN, C TED ON PART
155 THE S E BEING
na , S. Ro ert St.,
MOTIOlJ BY MS. GEROU� SECONDED BY MR. BARNA� TO OPEN THE PUBLZC HEARING.
UPON R VOZCE VOTE� RLL VOTSNG AYE� CHAZRPERSON GABEL DECLz1RED TNE PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN AT 7:35 P.M.
Chairperson Gabel read the following Administrative Staff Report:
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFf REPORT
759 � 53rd Avenue N.E.
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENT:
Section 214.04.661, limits the number of free standing signs to one
per developnent.
.
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Section 214.04.662 limits the size of the free standing sign to
80 square feet per deve7opment.
Public purpose served by these requirements is to control visual
pollution and excessive use of signs in commercial areas.
B. STATED HARDSHIP:
"This is a business that is leasing the gas station from Target. The
Target pylon sign uses the allowable sign area. We need a second pylon
sign of 47 square feet for identification."
C. ADMIP�ISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW:
This gas station was formerly operated by Target and did not use a
separate pylon sign to advertise their product. They are now leasing
the station operation to Citgo and Citgo omuld like to place their Citgo
logo on a separate pylon sign near their place of operation.
The 47 square foot sign would meet the City's Sign Code if the site
was under separate ownership,
If the Board recommends approval of this request, the Staff has no
stipulations to recommend.
Mr. Clark showed the Commission members an aerial photo of the area. He
stated the new sign would face east and west, 10 ft. in from the driveway
and 10 ft. up from the property line, in the boulevard area.
Ms. Gabel asked the petitioner, Mr, Cardinal, to explain their request.
Mr. Cardinal stated he was the Marketing Manager for Citgo in Minnesota.
He stated the reason for wanting the sign is for identification and price
so people can see it from the street. He stated they plan to put in a
footing, erect a pylon, and erect a free-standing sign on the pylon. The
sign will be 6 ft. by 8 ft. Both sides of the sign will identify the
station as a Citgo station. Part of the sign will be a reader board showing
two sets of prices, regular and no lead.
Ms. Gabel asked if the main part of the sign was about 4 ft. by 8 ft. and
the reader board was a6out 2 ft, of it.
Mr. Cardinal stated that was correct,
Mr. Betzold asked if the sign would be visible from the freeway.
Mr. Cardinal stated he did not think so since the sign wi17 be facing east
and west.
Mr. Betzold asked if it was Citgo's intention in the future to have the
sign visible from the freeway.
Mr. Cardinal stated, no, it was just mainly for traffic on 53rd Ave. He
APPEALS COMMISSION MEE7IN6 APRIL 10 1984 PAf,E 3
stated that besides gaoline, the store sells pop, cigarettes, automotive
supplies, and candy. There is no plan for any future expansion.
Ms. Gabe7 asked what Mr. Cardinal anticipated for messages in their
message center.
Mr. Cardinal stated they would advertise specials on pop and candy, etc.
There would be no advertising for just a product and there would be no
outside advertising.
Mr. Cardinal stated they are just hoping to i�crease their volume with the
new sign. Right now their volume is very low. There is a sign on one of
the poles that supports the canopy that advertises the gas prices and that
cannot be seen until you drive into the lot or are passing the station.
Ms. Ga6e1 asked if tfiey would 6e te]ling somewhere on the signage about
the credit car�s they accept.
Mr. Cardinal stated the sign on the door tells about the three credit cards
they accept, That would probably be the only sign they would have regarding
credit cards.
Ms. Gabel asked if Mr. Cardinal felt the Citgo sign was going to increase
their business.
Mr. Cardinal stated that right now people don't know they are there, and
that this is a Citgo station until they drive into the lot. The Q gas
station on the corner of 53rd and Central has a sign that identifies it as
a"Q" station to the public. At this time, Citgo does not have that identi-
fication to the public.
MOTION BY MR. PLEMEL� SECOP7DED BY MS. GEROU� TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEAF2ING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRPERSON GABEL DECLAP,ED THE PUBLIC
HEARING CLOSED AT 7:45 P.M.
Mr. Plemel stated he could understand why Citgo would like to identify
their product and their station, and he would be in favor of this sign
request.
Mr. Barna stated that because of the size of the area (especially the
parking area) and the distance to the existing Target sign at the opposite
corner diagonally, he did not think there would be that much additional
signage for that volume of space. There were really no other development
areas this large in tfie City, and this is the only place witF� an auxiliary
gas station, so he did not tfiink they would be setting a precedent by
granting this request.
Mr. Betzold stated he agreed. They have a right to let people know they
exist; and if Citgo owned this particular piece of property, they would qo
ahead and put up the signage anyway. He did not think the City should
APPEALS COt1MIS5I0N MEETIN6, APRIL 10, 1984 PAGE 4
2.
penalize them because they fiappen to be on the largest piece of property
in the City. He did not think it would offend tfie intent of the sign
ordinance to allow this sign to be put in place.
Ms, Gabel stated she also agreed. In spite of the volume of business
generated by Target, it is reasona6le and valid that Citgo would like to
have tfieir own identification. As Mr. Betzold had stated, if they owned
the property, they would definitely be entitled to put up a sign.
MOTZON BY MR. BARNA� SECONDED BY MS. GEROU� ?'D RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
AYPROVRL OF A REQUEST FOR VARIANCE PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 214 OF THE FRIDLEY
CI?'Y CODE TO INCREASE THE SIGN ARER FROM 216 SQURRE FEE2 (VARIAIJCE APPROVED
BY COUP7CIL ON DECEMBER 20� Z982) TO 264 SQUARE FEET TO ALL0G9 THE SERVICE
STATZON TO XAVE A 6 FT BY 8 PT. SIGN ON TRRGET'S SECOl1D PYLON SIGN� IACATED
ON PART OP LOTS I0� 1I, AND 12 AUDITOR'S SUBDZVISION NUMBER I55� THE SAME
BEING 759 53RD RVENUE N.E,
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHRIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED TXE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Gabe7 stated this item would go to City Council on May 7.
MOTION BY MR. BARNA� SECONDED BY MS. GEROU� TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEAF?ING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTINC AYE� CHRIRPERSON GRBEL DECLARED THE
PUBLIC HEARING OPEN RT 7:50 P.M,
Chairperson Gabel read the Administrative Staff Report.
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
1601 - 73 1/2 Ave. N,E.
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENT:
Section 205.07.3.D3 (b) requires detached accessory buildings to be
set back a minimum of 3 feet from a side property line.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to provide space between
adjacent structures to reduce conflagration of Pire and to limit the
condition of crowding in a residential neigfiborhood.
APPEALS C0��IISSION MEETING APRIL 10 1984 PAGE 5
Section 205.07.3.D3 (a) requires a minimum rear yard setback for the
main building of 1/4 the lot depth with not less than 25 feet permitted
or more than 40 feet required.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to provide rear yard
space to be used for green areas which enha�ce the neighborhood.
B. STATED HARDSHIP:
"The addi.tion is needed for an extra bedroom for our in-laws and the
swimming pool variance is needed as the present deck is used little due
to seasona6le conditions."
C. ADh1IWISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW:
The lot t� the rear of the petitioner's lot faces Onandaga Street, is
190.7 feet deep, and the rear yard setback for this adjacent lot is
111 feet.
TF�e petitioner's lot is very shallow: 85.5 feet. The petitioner, in
his letter attached to his application, stated that he offered to buy
some of his neighbor's rear yard; however, the neighbor declined.
If the Board moves to approve this request, the Staff has no stipulations
to suggest.
Mr. Clark stated he could not add much to the staff report. He stated when
Mr. Helman was in the office, Staff su99ested he contact his neighbor to
attempt to buy some additional land for his lot. The petitioner did make
that offer. The neighbor did not really o6ject to the variance, but did
not want to sell any of his land,
Ms. Gabel asked the petitioner, Mr. Helman, to explain to the Commission
what he was attempting to do and why he needed these variances.
Mr. Helman stated the 15 ft. deck extends out from the house already. They
received a permit for the deck last year, So, they are not going to be
usin9 up any more space out fran the back of the house. He asked for 17 ft.
in width because he was not sure how things were going to work. The ad�ition
may not be that wide. As far as the pool is concerned, on his lot there
is a sewer line that runs on the west side of the lot, so the pool had to go
in on the east side. The pool will be 16 ft. by 32 ft. They would rather
have the pool closer to the fence than to the addition, and that is the
reason they located the pool 2 ft. from the fence.
Ms. Gabel asked how far the pool would be from the house.
Mr, Helman stated it would be 6-7 ft. He stated the maximum height of the
pool will be 4 ft. above ground because one end of the pool is sunk into
the ground. If more of the pool can be sunk into the ground, the height
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, APRIL 10, 1984 PAGE 6
may only be 30 inches. There will be a 6 ft. fence and decking around the
pool. With the deck, it will be 2 ft, from the fence on the east side.
Ms. Gerou asked how far the house on the east side was from the lot line.
Mr. Ciark stated the house on the east side was 11z ft. from the lot 19ne.
Mr. Barna asked if the addition would be used as a living area for the
in-laws or a recreational area.
Mr. Helman stated tfiere was a room in the basement they presently use as
a recreational area. That could be used as a bedroom but would eliminate
the family room. It is their intention to use the room below the enclosed
deck as a bedroom for his in-laws. The room wou7d only be used 2-3 days a
week when his father-in-law was in the area on company business. His in-laws
own a lake home so tfiey will be at tfieir lake home five days a week.
Ms. Gabel stated that if Mr. Helman installed a 16 ft. by 24 ft. pool or
s�ifted the pool over one foot, he would not need a variance.
Ms. 6abe1 asked if Mr. Helman planned to install cooking facilities in the
addition in the basement.
Mr. Helman stated they would not.
MOTION BY MR. BARNR� SECONDED BY MS. GERO�� TO CZASE THE PUBLIC HERRING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CIIAIRPL'RSO77 GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
XEARING CIASED RT 8:10 p,M.
Ms. Gerou stated she felt this was trying to cram too much into the back
yard, and Mr. Helman could move the pool over one foot and not need the
one variance.
Mr. Betzold stated he had no trouble with the variance from 25 ft. to 8.5 ft.
for the room addition. Even though a foot is a foot, it was crowding too
much in the back yard, and he would not be in favor of the variance from
3 ft, to 2 ft. for the construction of the pool.
Mr. Barna agreed. The one foot one way or the other wasn't much difference,
but it would be easier for Mr. Helman to do that and not have a variance
on the books. He would prefer not to have the pool 2 ft. from a lot line.
Ms. Gabel stated she basically agreed with what had been said. More
importantly than the fact that one foot doesn't make much difference one
way or the other was the fact that there really wasn't any hardship to
grant that variance for one foot. In order f.or the Cortmission to grant a
variance, the petitioner has to prove there is a hardship, and she couldn't
see what hardship there could possib7y be in this case. She was in favor
of the variance for tfie addition as she could understand the need for that,
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING APRIL 10 1984 PAGE 7
3.
MOTION BY MR. BETZOLD� SECONDED BY MR. BARNA� TO RECOMMEND 1YJ CITY COUNCIL
TXE FOLLOWING: (1) THE DENZAL OF A VARIANCE PURSUANT � CHAPTER 205 OF
THB FRIDLEY CITY CODE TO REDUCE THE SIDE YARD SETBACK FOR AN ACCESSORY
USE FROM 3 FT. TO 2 FT, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SWZMMING POOL: AND
(2) TNE RPPROVAL OF A VARIANCE PURSUANT TO CHRPTER 205 OF 2HE FRSDLEY CITY
CODE TO REDUCE THE REAR YARD SETBACK FROM 25 FT. TO 8.5 F2. TD ALL0G7 THE
CONSTRUCTZON OF A 15 FT BY 27 FT. ROOM ADDZTION, LOCATED ON THE G7EST 96
PEET OF THAT PART OF THE SOL'TH 2/3 OF LOT 4� AUDITOR�S SUBDIVISION NO, 108,
AF70KA COUNTY, MINNESOTR� 47HSCH LIES NORTH OF TXE SOUTH LZNE OF THE NOP.TH
fIALF OF SAID IAT 4� SUBJECT TO ROAD EASEMENT� TKE SRME BEING 160I - 73 I/2
AVENUE N,E.
UPON A VQZCE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE, CHAIRPERSON C1fBEL DECLARED THE MO'_"SON
CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Gabel stated this item would go to City Council on May 7.
MOTION BY MS, GEROU� SECONDED BY MR. BARNA� TO OP£N THE PUBLIC HEAP.ING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECIAF.ED TNE PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN RT 8:I3 P.M,
Chairperson Gabel read the Administrative Staff Report.
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPQRT
420 - 57th P1ace N.E.
A, PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENT:
st
Section 205.07.3.D4 (a) requires the setback for a garage, located in
the rear yard on a doub7e frontage lot, to be the same as for a front
yard (35 feet).
Public purpose served by this requirement is to allow for adequate open
rear yard areas should any of the buildings in a double frontage block
face the "rear".
B. STATED HARDSHIP:
"By adding 12 feet to the existing garage, I will be able to store my
boat inside rather than outside where it is exposed to weather and
vandalism.
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"The variance is needed due to the fact that my lot is double fronted;
on the south 6y 57th Avenue and on the north by 57th Place."
C. ADt1INISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW:
The previous owner of this property was granted a Special Use Permit
to build a 20 ft. by 22 ft. second accessory building (garage). The
garage was constructed in 1976 at tfie minimum setback of 35 feet. The
present owner would like to add 12 feet toward 57th Avenue; however, he
needs a variance to do so (from 35 feet to 23 feet).
The Zoning Code requires a 35 foot setback to all structures on double
frontage lots, There have been two previous variances granted in this
61ock; one at 390 - 57th Place in 1968 to construct a four stall garage
30 feet from the line, the other in 1969 for a 25 foot set6ack ior a
two stall garage at 464 - 57th Place.
The homes on either side of the petitioner both face 57th Place; there-
fore if this request is granted, it would not result in any encroachment
into the front yard of a neighbor.
If the Board approves this variance request, the Staff has no stipulations
to suggest.
Mr. Clark showed an aerial photo showing the entire length of the block.
Ms. Gabel asked the petitioner, Mr. Burch, to explain his request.
Mr. Burch stated he has a new boat, and it is too big for the garage. He
would like to store it in the garage to keep it out of the weather and to
prevent vandalism, He would ]ike to add 12 ft. onto his garage so he can
store both his car and his boat at the same time. He stated he has talked
to sane of his neighbors, and they have no abjections.
MOTZON BY MS. GEROU� SECONDED BY MR. BARNA� TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEFiRING,
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DEC7.ARED THE PUBLIC
HEARSNC CLOSED AT 8:?0 P,M.
MOTION BY MS. GEROU, SECONDED BY MR. PLEMEL� TO RECOMMENb TO CITY COUNCZL
RPPROVAL OF REQUEST FOR VARIANCE PURSUANT T1� CXAPTER 205 OF THE FRIDLEY
CITY CODE TO REDUCE THE REAR YARD SETBACK ON A DOUBLE FRONTED LOT FkOM
35 FEET TO 23 FEET, TO ALLOW A 12 FT. RDDITIDN R� AN EXISTING GARAGE
(GARAGE WAS APPROVED BY SP N76-OS IN 1976) LOCATED ON ALL OF LOT 5 AND THE
EAST HALF OF LOT 4, BIACK 5� CSTY VIEW, THE SAME BEING 420 57TN PLACE N.E.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON CABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
� APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, APRIL 10, 1984 PAGE 9
4. REQUEST FOR VARIANCE PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 205 OF THE FRIDLEY CITY C�DE TO
ey Ann Thompson, 5850 5th St. N.E.,
ey, Mn.
MOTION BY MS. GEROU� SECONDED BY MR. BETZOLD� TO OPEN TXE PiTBLIC HEARING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE, CNAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED TNE PL'BLZC
HEARING OPEN AT 8:21 P.M.
Chairperson Gabel read the Administrative Staff Report.
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
585� - 5th St. N.E.
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENT:
Section 205.7.3.D2 (a) requires a side yard of ten feet between any
living area and side property lines.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to maintain a minimum of
20 feet between living areas in adjacent structures and 15 feet between
garages and living areas in adjacent structures to reduce exposure to
conflagration of fire. It is also to al7ow for aesthetically pleasin9
open areas around residential structures.
B. STATE� HARDSHIP:
"We plan to enclose the present carport and make it into a family room.
The present carport is 6' 6" from our lot line. We plan on extending
the basement under the present carport."
C. ADt1INISTRATIUE STAFF REVIEW:
The neighbor's house to the south of the petitioner's is 14.5 feet from
the lot line; therefore, the two structures are 21 feet apart, 1 foot in
excess of the required 20 feet between living areas.
If the Board moves to approve tf�is request, the Staff has no recommended
stipulations.
Mr. Clark stated this was a garage until the tornado in 1965. The owners
rebuilt the old garage area as a carport and built a two-car garage in the
rear.
Ms. 6abe1 asked the petitioner, Ms. 7hompson, if she would explain what
she was planning to do.
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APPEALS COMMISSI�N MEETIN6 APRIL 10 1984 PAGE 10
Ms. Thompson stated she was recently married, and they are combining two
far�ilies. Tfieir present kitchen area is very small. They plan to enclose
the old carport, open it up and have a larqer eating area. They will
extend the 6asement under the carport, She stated tf�ere is no objection
from the neighbor next door.
MOTION BY MS. GEfdOU, SECONDED BY MR. PLEMEL� TO CLOSE THE PUBLZC HEARIP7G,
UPON A VOZCE VO_TE, ALL VOTZNG AYE� CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECF,APED THE PUBLIC
XEARZNG CZASED AT 8:26 P.M.
Ms. Gerou stated the petitioner had a definite hardship, and she would be
in favor of granting the request.
Mr. Barna stated the intent of the code to maintain distance between
structures is still remaining iniact since the neighboring house is 14.5 ft.
from the lot line, making the two structures 21 ft, apart. It is also not
decreasing the visual aspect of tF�e yard as the carport is existing, and it
will just be enclosed,
Mr, Betzold agreed, They would not be moving any closer to the neighboring
building and there is no enfringement. He stated he had no problem with this
request.
Ms. Gabel stated she also agreed. There was a hardship, and the spirit of
the code is being maintained. She had no problem with granting this request.
MOTION BY MS. GEROU� SECONDED 8Y MR. BARNA� TO RECOMMEND TO CISY COUNCZL
APPROVAL OF A REpUEST FOR VARIANCE PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 205 OF THE FRIDLEY
CITY CODE TO REDUCE SIDE YARD SETBACK FROM 10 FT. TO 6 1/2 FS. TO CONVERT
A CARPORT TO LIVZNG AREA� LOCRTED ON ZAT 3� BLOCK 5� BENNETT PAIr�fEIZ ADDITIOlI�
THE SAME BEING 5850 STH ST. N.E.
UPON A VOSCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECL.9RE'D TXE MO2ZOP7
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MR. BARNA� SECONDED BY MS. GEROU, TO ADJOURN Tf1E MEETING, UPON A
VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTIllG AYE� CHAZRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE ApR2L 10, 1984,
APPEALS COMMZSSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:30 P.M.
Respectfully subiitted,
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Recording 5ecretary
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, APRIL 18, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairwoman Schnabel called the Ilpril 18, 1984, Planning Commission meeting to
order at 7:33 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Ms. Schnabe7, Mr. Oquist, Ms. Gabel, Mr. Kondrick, Mr. Saba,
Mr. Goodspeed
Members Absent: Mr. Svanda
Others Present: Jim Robinson, Planning Specialist
Gerald G. Johnson, 712 River Lane, Anoka
Robert Erickson, 2178 - 17th St. N.W., New Brighton
Mark Haggerty, 6401 University Ave. N.E.
APPROVAL OF MARCH 28 1984 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY hIIt. SABA, � APPROVE THE MARCH 28, 1984,
PL1iNNING COMMISSIDN PIINUTES AS WRITTEN.
Ms. Schnabe7 stated that at this meeting, the Commission asked for some
clarification from the City Council regarding park fees.
Mr. Robinson stated a memo was sent to the City Council. The Council's inter-
pretation was what he had said at the March 28th meeting, that on a 9-lot plat,
the park fee was on the 9 lots. Mr. 67omberg had questioned paying a park fee
on the 9th lot, because there was an existing dwelling on it.
Mr. Robinson stated that on a lot split, a$750 park fee is paid on each new lot
that is created. However this is not a lot split issue but rather a plat.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
APPROVAL OF APRIL 4, 1984, PLAPJNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. OQUIST, SECONDED BY MS. GABEL, TO RPPROVE THE APRIL 4, 2984�
PLANNING CANMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN 5CXNABEL DECLARED THE 110TION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, APRIL 18 1984 PAGE 2
1. LOT SPLIT RE UEST: L.S. #84-03 BY GERAL� B. JOHN50N: Split off the West
o Lot , an a o ots 5, 6, an , ucia ane Addition, into three
tracts as follows:
Tract A: The north 90 feet of Lot 5, along with the Nort6 90 feet of the
East 20 feet of Lot 6, Lucia Lane Addition, t6e same being 6516 Lucia Lane N.E.
Tract 6: That part of Lot 5 lying south of tfie Nort6 90 feet of said Lot 5,
and that part of the East 20 feet of said Lot 6, Lucia Lane Addition, the
same being 6500 Lucia Lane N.E.
Tract C: Lot 7, along with the West half of Lot 4, and that part of Lot 6
lying west of the east 20 feet of said Lot 6, Lucia Lane Addition, the same
being 1133 and 1145 Mississippi Street N.E,
Mr. Robinson stated this property was located north of Mississippi St.,
west of Lucia Lane, and east if Highway 65. The property presently consists
of Lots 5, 6, 7, and the west half of Lot 4, The petitioner is requesting that
this property be split in such a manner so that Lot 5 will be basically split
in half with 20 ft, from Lot 6 being added to Lot 5, and the remainder of Lot 6
and Lot 7 being added to the half of Lot 4, to make three tracts, Tract A,
Tract �, and Tract C.
Mr, Robinson stated-StaYf fias sane definite concerns tFiat have 6een discussed
with the petitioner, Mr. Gerald Jofinson.- One of t�e Staff concerns is that
the legal descriptions are quite lengthy, and Staff feels Mr. Jofinson should
apply for a plat rathEr tfian a lot split and not allow thi�s tvpe of reworking
of t�e land with a lot splii.
Mr. Robinson stated another Staff concern was the traffic on Mississippi St.
W1t� two R-1 lots on Lucia Lane and one rather large tract of over 42,000
sq. ft. off Mississippi St., Staff felt access should be required off Lucia
Lane with no access onto Mississip�i St. He stated that presently there are
plans to widen Mississippi St, and put in a med'ian so access onto Mississippi
would be very limited.
Mr. Robinson stated the third Staff recommendation would be a 15 ft. bikeway/
walkway easement along Mississippi St.
Ms. Schnabel asked the petitioner, Mr. Johnson, if he o-lould like to make some
statements regarding his proposal for this property.
Mr. Mark Haggerty stated he was an attorney representinq Mr. Gerald Johnson.
He stated Mr. Bob Erickson, who was a contractor, was also at the meeting.
Mr, Haggerty stated he would first give the Planning Commission members a
little background on this parcel of land. He stated this parcel of land has
been before the Planning Commission and City Council about six times in the
last six years. There have been proposals for everything from restaurants
and office bui7dings to duplexes and condominiums.
Mr. Haggerty stated the pro�lem was a"catch�22" which fias 6een created hy
the City of Fridley. On Lucia Lane, wit� tfie Kniy�ts of Colum6us and the
apartment buildings, the neighbors claim there is a tremendous traffic problem
down Lucia Lane. Obviously, they cannot get access to Highway 65. The City
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, APRIL 18 1984 PAGE 3
claims there is a tremendous traffic problem on Mississippi St. He said
they have met with the neighbors many times, and the neighbors say they
want no access onto Lucia Lane. Tfie City wants no access onto Mississippi
St., even though at tfiis time, Mr. Johnson could pull a building permit
on Lots 7, 6, and 5, and the City could noi do anything about it.
Mr. Haggerty stated he had just become involved with this proposa7 that day,
and he believed the dimensions on tfie drawing were not quite accurate.
F�at was really meant vias to have a Tract A and Tract B and two buildable
lots on Tract C, making four buildable residential lots.
Mr. Haggerty stated Staff has talked about running a road in from Lucia
Lane. That would be great, except for two things: (1) the cost; and (2)
the neighbors on Lucia Lane would 6e very upset. The neighbors have stated
they want nice residential homes and try to preserve the beautiful oak trees
that are on the land, in order to maintain the residential character of the
neighborhood and not create a traffic problem.
Mr. Haggerty stated they are asking the Planning Commission, and ultimately
the City Council, to compromise. The City says thereare traffic problems on
Mississippi St., and the neighbors don't want traffic congestion on Lucia
Lane and the neighbors do not want multiple development. So, they are propos-
ing to take one 7ot off Plississippi St., put two lots on Lucia Lane, so
t�ere are two lots on Mississippi, as opposed to three lots. He stated he did
not know what would happen with the wester7y portion of Lot 4. It would
make a nice backy�rd for someone. The petitioner is primarily concerned with
the four residential lots without tfie additional cost of having to put in a
road that would meet city standards. That would run another $60,000. With
a total square footage of 64,000 maximum, that just doesn't justify a road.
Ms. Schnabel asked either Mr. Johnson or Mr. Haggerty to comnent on the
staff recommendations, particularly the first recomnendation that because of
the complex legal descriptions, the City would like to see a plat.
Mr. Haggerty stated he did not fee7 the 7ega1 descriptions were that complex,
Regarding the drawing, he felt Tract C should have been two tracts, and that
could be corrected. If the 7e9a1 descriptions were too complicated, they
would find that out very fast at the County Recorder's office. Under state
]aw, if the legal descriptions are too complicated, the County Recorder has
the right to reject them. In checking with the County Clerk, these lega1
descriptions did not appear to be that objectionable.
Ms. Schnabe] stated she was concerned a6out Mr. Ha9gerty's comment that the
drawing was not totally correct.
Mr. Haggerty stated the drawing showed adding:20 ft. from Lot 6 to Lot 5, and
he believed that should be around 15 ft., which would create four buildable
lots with minimum square footages and minimum frontages.
PLANNING COM�ISSION MEETING; APRIL 18 1984 PAGE 4
Mr. Haggerty stated they could drop the westerly portion of Lot 4, and just
work with Lots 7, 6, and 5. That parcel was not necessary for the minimum
square footages on Lots 7 and 6.
Mr. Haggerty stated Mr. Johnson has held this property for a long time, and
he pays $3,000/year in real estate taxes on the property. He stated they
would request that the Planning Commission approve this lot splii request,
taking into consideration some of the pro6lems there have been in the past,
and tfie change of adding 15 ft. to Lot 5, rather tfian 20 ft., as indicated
on the drawing,
Mr. Dquist stated he really could see nothing wrong with this request. With
only two driveways coming out onto Mississippi St., t6at would only be 2-4
additional cars coming out onto Mississippi.
Ms. Schnabel suggested the possibility of combining the driveways for Lots
7 and 6 so that both homes would be accessing onto Mississippi from one
single driveway.
Mr. Haggerty stated the problems were basically legal and marketing problems.
If people are going to buy a single family home, they want a single family
home where everything on it is theirs. If a driveway is combined, it has to
6e done right. There has to 6e a reciprocal easement and reciprocal maintenance
agreement that runs with the land, He stated that kind of thing scares people
off and makes it very difficult to market a single family home. In fiis
experience, it has been a verp difficult problem.
Ms. Schnabel stated she was a little uncomfortable with this request with
no public hearing, considering that in the past history of this property,
the neighbors have been very vocal. She rea7ized t�at a loi split did not
require a public hearing by ordinance, but she still felt uncomfortable
without having some kind of vehicle for those neighbors to make comment on
this proposal.
Mr. Haggerty stated that in the meetings with the neighbors, of all the plans
they submitted to the neighbors, when they started getting down to the 8, 7,
and 6 unit density level, the concern from the neighbors 7essened. Now, they
are down to the 4-unit level. He siated they cou7d have three units without
any trouble, but they are trying to accommodate the City by putting one more
driveway onto Lucia Lane, as opposed to Mississippi, and still make the total
package economically feasible enough so that something can �e done. He
stated ii is getting to the latter third of Apri7, and they would like to get
going. To go through a public hearing process at this time would be very
burdensome.
Mr. Robinson stated one thing he was a little concerned about was that, with
the original lot sp7it, the westerly part of Lot 4 was included. If they do
as Mr. Haggerty suggested and drop that portion, that piece of land would be
completely landlocked.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING APRIL 18 19II4 PAGE 5
Mr. Haggerty agreed, but he stated they are willing to give up development
on that lot in order to be able to get some development going on these
four new lots.
Mr, Oquist stated that of a17 the plans they have seen for this property,
this seemed to be the most vi:able plan,
Mr, Robinson suggested that 5 ft. from Tract A 6e added to Tract B, making
a little more room on Tract B because of greater setbacks on a corner lot.
MOTION 8Y AfR. OQUI5T� SECONDED BY D1R. SRBA� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF LOT SPLIS REQUEST� L.S. iS84-03� FOR THE CREATION OF TRRCT R AND
TRACT B, LEAVING LOTS 6 AND 7 AS BUILDABLE LOTS� WITH THE FOLIAG7ING
522PULATIONS: �
1. A 25 FT, BIKEWAY/WALKWAY EASEMENT ON MISSI5SSPP2 ST.
2. CORRECTION IN CLERICAL ERROR THAT THE 20 FT. FROM IAT 6 TO BE
ADDED TO IAT 5 BE' CHANGED TO ZS FT. AND TNAT THE NECESSARY
DOCUMENTS BE PRESENTED BY THE PETITIONER BEFORE SHI5 ITEM GOES
TO CITY COUNCIL.
3. A CORRECTED DOCUMENT BE SI7BMZTTED TO THE CITY COUNCZL WITN THE
RECOMMENDATION THAT THE FRONTAGE ON TRACT A BE CXANGED FROM
30 FT, Tp 85 FT,� ADDING 5 FT. TO TRACT E.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRh�OMAN 5CHNRBEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANTMOU5LY,
Ms. Schnabei stated this would go to �ity Council on May 7.
2. DISCUSSION ON TARGET PROPOSAL FOR PROPERTY NORTH OF CITY HALL:
Mr. Robinson stated the plans for tF�e Target faciliiy north of City Hall
are very quickly becoming finalized, and Staff felt they should come to
the Planning Commission and explain the Target proposal to the Commission,
Mr. Robinson stated it involves the area north of Ciiy Hall, 4.8 acres.
Target will be constructing a 75,000 sq. ft. building, three stories, with
a possi6le expansion of 15-16,000 sq, ft. for administrative operations and
computer-type operations. Target will be relocating '_ employees
from Paco Industrial Park. This is a$5 million facility and will create
$200,000/year in taxes.
Mr. Robinson stated Target will be using similar type brick and stucco and
the same plaza motif will be carried throughout the area. Landscaping wil]
also be consistent with the tota7 development.
Mr. Robinson stated that primar9ly the access to the parking lot will be
off the service drive to City Hall. There will be more ]imited access off
Mississippi St. The parking lot will have 311, 9' x 18', stalls.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, APRIL 18 1984 PAGE 6
The Planning Commission members wondered why Target did not have their
own driveway off 5th St. past the median, rather than having a shared
driveway with City Hall and the Police Dept.
Mr. Robinson stated that rig�t now the City is working on relocation of
present businesses on the property, and everything seems to be going well.
3. RECEIVE MARCH 26 1984, PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOmION BY MR�. KONDRICK� SECONDED EY MR. OQUIST� TO RECEIVE THE MAR, 26� 1984,
PARKS &�RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTE5.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWQMAN 5CHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
4. RECEIVE MARCH 27, 1984z ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. SABA, 5ECONDED BY MR, KONDRICK, TO RECIEPE THE MAR. 27� I6�84,
ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTE5.
UPON A VOICE VOSE� ALL VOTSNG AYE� CHAIRF70MRN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOU$LY. �
5. RECEIVE APRIL 5, 1984, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION�BY MR. GOODSPEED, SECONDED BY hII2. RL7ftDRZCK, SECONDED SY MR. OQUIST,
TO �CEIVf; THE RpRYd S� Z984, HUMAN RE50URCE5 COMMI5SION MINUTES.
Mr. Goodspeed sta*ed the Canmission members came up with their recommenda-
tions to City Council for human service funding of 1983 CDBG funds.
He stated those recommendations were stated in a motion-to the City Council
on page 5.
Ms. Schnabel stated the Planning Cortmission appreciated all the work the
Human Resources Commissim has done in coming uP with these recommendations
for human service funding. The Planning Commission was in agreement with
what the Human Resources Commission had recommended.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING RYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
6. RECEIVE APRIL 10, 1984, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO RECEII�E' THE ApRIL I9� I984,
APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOSE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAZR470MAN SGHNABEL DECI.AI:ED THF, MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOU5LY. � �
PLANNING GOMMISSION MEETING, APRIL 18 1984 PAGE 7
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST� TO ADJOURN THE MEETIITG. UpON
A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCNNABEL DECL�IRED THE APRIL I8� I984�
PLIINNING COMDI2SSION MEETING ADJOURtVED AT 9:35 P.M.
Respectfully sub itted,
v�C.2
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Recording Secretary
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