PL 05/23/1984 - 6835PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
City of Fridley
AGENDA
WEDNESDAY, MAY 23, 1984
APPROVE PLpNNING COM+IISSION MINUTES: MAY 9, 1484
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PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION QF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT,
SP # 84-08, REQEEMER LUTHERAN CHURCH: Per Section 205.
07.1, 3, B, to allow the addition of a new fellowship
hall and remodeling for the handicapped, on Lot 2, Block 6,
Edwater Gardens, the same being 61 Mississippi Way N.E.
f A PRELI�IINARY PLAT. P.S.
uYmtni auirtuttiir: �e�ng a replat ot 8locks I, "L, 3, 4 and
5, Ree's Addition to fridley Park, including all vacated
streets and alleys, and that part of the West Nalf of the
Northeast Half of the Southwest Quarter of 5ection 14,
lying between Lot 2 and 3, Block 1, and lying Northerly
of said Block 2, which includes all of the property between
University Avenue and 5th Street, South of Mississippi
Street> down io, but not including the Fridley Bank
Property.
JY flii4-Uy, 6Y K1l;HRRU t. GKEtN: Ner SeCt�on 205.15.7, 3,
D, of the Fridley City Code, to allow a repair garage
on Lot 1, Block 1, Target Addtion, the same being 765
53rd Avenue N.E. (See Appea]s minutes of 5/15 for variance)
4. LOT SPLIT REQUEST: L.S. #84-05, BY JOHN HITCHCOCK: Split
off the Southerly 86 feet of Lot 8H, Second Revised
Auditor's Subdivision No. 21, the same being 6530 Oakley
Drive N. E.
5. LOT SPLIT REQUEST: L.S. #84-06, BY ANNETTE PaESCNEL: Split
the South 138.10 feet (except the North 1/2 and except
West 92.75 feet of South Half of Lot 31, subject to easement
over South 30 feet) into two parcels to allow zero lot line
for a double bungalow, the same being 1571-1573 73rd Avenue
6. RECEIVE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES: MAY 3 1984
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7. RECEIVE COMhA1NI7Y DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES: MAY 8, 1984 PINK
8. RECEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: MAY 15, 1984
9. OTHER BUSINESS:
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMISSTON MEETING, MAY 9, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairwoman Schnabel cal7ed the May 9, 1984, Planning Comnission meeting to
order at 7:30 p,m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Ms, 5chnabe7, Mr. Oquist, Ms. Gabe7, Mr. Svanda, Mr. Minton,
Mr. Kondrick, Mr, Saba
Members Absent: None
Others Present: Jim Robinson, Planning Specialist
Michael Malone, 635 Eiy St.
Mr, & Mrs. Edward Andrajack, 5832 - 3rd St. N.E.
Rabert De Gardner, ]438 N. Danube Rd.
Maynard Nielson, 7144 Riverview Terrace
David Radabough, Woodcrest Baptist Church
Gary Braam, 1441 Rice Creek Rd.
(See attached lists)
APPROVAL OF APRIL 18, 1984, PLANNING COMMISSIaN MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICX� SECONDED BY MR. OpUIST, TD APPROVE THE APRIL I8� 1954,
pLANNING COMMZSSSON M2NG'TES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TNE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
l. PUBLIC HEARING: RE UEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SP #84-05 BY
Per Sect�on 05. .4 „ D, o t e Fri ey City Code,
o a ow t e construction of a 16 ft. by 22 ft. addition to an existing
structure in CRP-2 zoning (flood fringe) on Lots 5, 6, 7, and 8, Block U,
Riverview Heights, the same being 635 Ely Street N.E.
MOTION BY MR, kONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO OPEN THE PUBLIC XEARZNG
ON SP N84-OS BY MICHAEL J. MAIANE,
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL YOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCXNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARSNG OPEN AT 7:32 P.M.
Mr. Robinson stated the property was on Ely St. just east of the river.
He stated because the proposed addition is in the flood fringe, a special
use permit is required. In order to build the addition, the petitioner
must be i,2 ft, above the 10� yr. f]ood plain. The 100 yr, flood plain
is 823.25, and the petitioner has indicated he would have no problem meeting
PLANNIPaG COMMISSION MEETING MAY 9 1984 PAGE 2
that elevation. Mr. Ro6inson stated the elevation of the street access
needs to be within 2 ft. of this required flood plain elevation, That is
grandfathered in at a lesser elevation and, essentially, the City will be
granting a variance for that,
Ms. Schnabe7 asked the petitioner if he would like to make any comments.
Mr. Michael Malone stated the entry is in the northwest corner which would
be 823.19 ft, The step into the house is 7 inches above that. at 83D.19 ft.
Ne stated if that was not high enough, they would go with another 1 ft.
course of 6locks, bringing the height of the floor up to 842.19. That was
wel� above what was specified.
Mr. Malone stated the addition wi11 be in redwood siding, and all facia of
the house will be replaced with redwood so it will tie the existing structure
in with the new addition.
Mr. Robinson stated there is also an 18-inch crawl space that should be
figured into the elevations. He stated that if the Planning Commission
approves this special use permit, more accurate drawings of the floor ele-
vations should be obtained before this goes to the City Council,
MOSION BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MR. MINTON� TO CTASE THE PUBLZC XERRING ON
SP #84-OS BY MZCHAEL J. MALONE.
UPON R VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXRIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TNE PUBLIC
XSdRING CIASED RT 7:45 P.M.
MOTION BY MR, Q�jUIST� SECONDED BY 192. MZNTON� 20 RECOMMEND TO CZTY COUNCZL
APPROVAL OF REQUEST FOR A SPECZAL USE PERNIT� SP N84-O5� BY MICXAEL J. MALONE,
PER SECTZON 205.24.4� D� OF TNE FRIDLEY CITY CODE, TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION
OF A 26 FT. BY 22 FT. ADDITZON TO AN EXZSTING STRUCTURE IN CRP-2 ZONING
(FLOOD FRINGE) ON LOTS 5, 6� 7� AND 8, BLOCK U, RIVERVIEW HEZGHTS� SHE SAME
BSING 635 ELY STREET N.E.� WITH THE STIPULATION THAT THE PETZTIONER MEET THE
ELEVRTIONS FOR THE FI,OOD PLAIN AREA.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CNAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLRRED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Schnabel stated this item would go to City Council on May 21, 1984.
2. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #84-06, SY
EDWARD ANDRAJACK: Per Section 205.07.1, 3, A of the Fridley City Code,
to allow the construction of a second accessory building, a 22 ft. by
24 ft. detached garage, on Lots 7 and 8, Block 22, Hyde Park, the same being
5832 3rd Street N.E.
MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY ffi2. KONDRICK� 20 OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING
ON SP #84-06 BY EDWARD ANDFAJACS.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTSNG AYE� CHAZRWOMAN SCHNRBEL DECLARED TNE PUBLIC
HEARZNG OPEN AT 7;48 P.M.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 9, 1984 PAGE 3
Mr. Robinson stated this property was located on 3rd St, north of 58th Ave.
Mr. Andrajack was proposing a second accessory building, the first one
being an attached garage. The second accessory building will be located in
the rear yard. It would be approx, 528 sq, ft. with a 3 ft. side yard
setback and a 5 ft. rear yard setback. This meets city code. He stated
the only requirement would be that the driveway up to the new 9arage be
paved.
Ms. Schnabel asked the petitioner, Mr. Andrajack, if he had any comments
to make regarding his request.
Mr. Andrajack stated he had no problem with paving the driveway. He stated
the only change to his request was the width of the 9arage from 22 ft. to
20 ft. He stated they will continue to use the existing attached garage
as a garage.
MOTION BY MR, SABA� SECONDED BY MR. SVANDA� TO CIASE THE PUBLIC XERRING ON
SP k84-06 BY EDWARD ANDRAJACK.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TNE PUBLIC
HEARING CLOSED AT 7:55 P.M.
MOTZON BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR. SVANDA� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF REQUEST FOR R SPECIAL USE PERMZT� SP #84-06� BY EDWARD ANDRAJACK�
PER SECTION 205,07.).� 3� A OF THE FRIDLEY CZTY CODE� TO ALLO41 THE CONSTRUC—
TION OF A SECOND ACCESSORY BUILDIldG� A 20 £T. BY 24 FT. DETACHED GRRAGE� ON
LO'l5 7 AND 8� BLOCK 22� HYDE PARK, THE SAME BEZNG 5832 3RD STREET N.E.�
WZTH TXE STIPUTA 270N THAT THE DRZVEWAY TO THE NEW STR[ICTURE BE PAVED.
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE� CXAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANFMOUSLY.
Ms. Schnabel stated this item would go to City Council on May 21, 1984.
3. PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING RE UE57, ZOA #84-02, BY ROBERT D. DEGARDNER:
ezone rom - one ami y e ings to R- genera mu tip e wellings)
part of Lots 3 and 21, not taken for street purposes, and all of Lots 4,
5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10, and Lots 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19 and 20, Block 20,
Fridley Park; and parts of Lots 3 and 24, not taken for street purposes,
and all of Lots 4, 5, 6, and 7 and 19,.20, 21, 22 and 23, Block 19,
Fridley Park, to allow the development of a 52-unit condominium complex
between East River Road and Ashton Avenue on 61st and 61 1/2 Way N.E.
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING
ON ZOA N84-02 BY ROBERT D. DEGARDNER.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECI,ARED TNE PUBLZC
HSARZNG OPEN AT 7:58 P.M.
PLANNI��G CO��ISSION MEETING, MAY 9, 1984 PAGE 4
Mr, Robinson stated the property was bordered on the soutfi by 61st Ave.,
Ashton on the east, East River Road on the west, and 62nd Way on the north.
The prpperty is surrounded by railroad property on the east, light industrial
on the south, Stevenson School on the southwest, and single family. The
rezoning request is for a change from R-1 to R-3.
Mr. Robinson stated the reason for the rezoning to R-3 was for the creation
of 13 four-plex type units (one-bedroom Loft Homes) attached at the corners.
There would be a central green space, also green space surrounding the
buildings, with parking,
Ms. Schnabel asked how wide the lots were in this area.
The petitioner, Mr. Robert DeGbrdner stated these are 40 ft, lots. They
would have to put two together to make one buildable lot.
Mr. DeGardner stated he has lived in Fridley for 16 years and has built
about 25 homes in fridley over the years. He stated Mr. Maynard Nielson
owns the property, and Mr. Nielson asked his opinion about this property.
Mr. DeGardner stated he looked at the site and felt the property was not
feasible for single family homes with light industrial, the railroad tracks,
and so�e poor soil conditions.
Mr. DeGardner stated he current7y has three quad projects in Coon Rapids.
He is proposing the Loft Home concept for this site. Loft Homes caters to
single people and couples. It is a totally new concept. He stated the
buildings are connected at the corners to make a nice garden apartment.
Every apartment is ground level with patios, quality built, oak woodwork
throughout, air conditioning, all appliances, and very affordable at $39,9D0.
Mr. DeGardner stated that in looking at the site, he felt this was the most
practical way to develop it. These buildings would make a nice buffer 6etween
the light industrial and the single family.
Mr. Kondrick asked what the square footage was for each apartment.
Mr. DeGardner stated each apartment was a little over 600 sq. ft, overall,
which included a 16' x T2'loft bedroom which is open to the living room.
Ms. Gabel asked if Mr. DeGardner would sell a block of these apartments
to an investor who would rent out the units.
Mr. DeGardner stated if they get VA financing,they are limited to 5%. He
stated they should have no problem selling the units individually. There
are investors who would like to buy these blocks, but the units would be
rentals and there would be an association so it would not be like other
apartment rentals.
PLANNING COM�4ISSION MEETING, MAY 9 1984 PAGE 5
Ms. Schnabel stated she did visit the Loft Horr�s in Coon Rapids and spent
some time with the salesman there. From what the salesman told her, this
last weekend there was an open house and about 150 people came out. Of
those peop7e who had children, they all turned away, as they did not feel
the units were appropriate for families. The salesman said that of the
units that were up, all were sold but two and he expected to sell them soon.
Then the second phase of construction would start. Most of the people
buying these units are single people rather than coupies.
Ms, Schnabei stated the units were very attractive and appeared to be of
good quality. The salesman stated the monthly maintenance fee the first
year would be $23/month and $28/month the second year. Each unit contained
a stove, refrigerator, dishwasher, garbage disposal, washer/dryer/ 30 gal.
hot water heater, insulation acceptable in terms of R value, electric heat,
with heat efficient fireplace. There was a lot of selection in terms of
carpeting, tile, etc.
Ms. Schnabe] asked if there was anyone in the audience who would like to
make any comments about this rezoning request.
Mr. Larry Newhorter, 32 - 62nd Lane, stated he has 7ived across the street
from this property for 11 years. He stated when 61st and the stop light
by Stevenson School were put in, the area was filled with concrete. When
Park Construction was digging up I-94, they dumped in clay, mud and concrete.
He did not know how Mr. DeGardner could build on this property with all the
clay and concrete in there.
Mr. Newhorter stated this property was zoned R-1 when he moved in 17 years
ago, and he did not want any mu7tip7es across the street. He was also con-
cerned about the height of the units. They would not match with the houses
in the area. He stated these units are built for ]-2 people, but he could
easily see a couple with a child livin9 there. He would like to see single
family homes on the property. In digging footings for a house with a base-
ment, they would probably hit sand, 6ut he did not know if they could iay
a slab on top of the peat,
Mr. Richard Soj, 65 - 612 Way N.E., stated he has lived in his home for
21 years. He stated he has a walkout basement on the east side of his
house. His concern was drainage into his yard and basement if this develop-
ment went in, He also felt these buildings were too high to have across the
street from residential.
Ms. Schnabel stated any project that
water within its own development, so
any other property.
is developed is designed to contain
there should not be any drainage onto
Ms. Betty Rae Berkholz, 6103 East River Road, stated she was concerned about
the children. She felt that when there are single people living in a home,
they are probably going to have parties. She stated this is a quiet neigh-
borhood, and she would feel very uncomfortable because they do not know
what kind of element would be moving in. She also fett there would be a
considerable artaunt of turnover of ownership of these units as people get
married and move to larger homes.
PLANNING COMtdIS5I0N MEETING, MAY 9, 1984 PAGE 6
Mr, Ed Ksolihowski, 35 - 62nd Way N,E., stated he owns 3� lots here.
He stated he was against the project, and would like to have single family
homes on this property.
Mr. De6ardner stated that whether multi or single family homes are built on
this site, there will have to be soil preparation, He felt single family
homes were out of the question for the reasons mentioned earlier. With
multi, they can get more units per acre; therefore, they can afford to do
some soil preparation, As far as drainage, they will work closely with the
people and the City to handle the drainage on site. He stated he would be
willing to sit down with the neighbors to try to resolve the concerns expressed
by the neighbors.
Mr. Minton asked how tong Mr. Nielson had owned the property and if he had
attempted to develop the property before.
Mr. Nielson stated he has owned the property for 7 years. He stated he had
considered doubles and single family homes, but because of the financial
situation, these have not worked out for him, When he met with Mr. DeGardner,
tfiey both felt this was the best plan for the property.
Mr. Robinson stated if the property was rezoned to B-3, Mr. DeGardner would
be allowed 20% lot coverage. The proposed plan is for 16% lot coverage.
He would need a minimum of 35� green space, and the proposed plan calls for
56% green space,
Mr. Robinson stated one concern would be that this proposed plan is not
consistent with the City's Comprehensive Plan, If the Planning Commission
recommended approval of the rezoning, the Comprehensive Plan would have to
be amended through the Metropolitan Council.
Mr. Oquist asked about a garage requirement.
Mr. Robinson stated the code does not require garages for apartment buildings.
The City does require 1; stalls per one bedroom unit,
Mr, DeGardner stated garages can be provided if people wa�t one, so those
options can be built into the plan.
MOTION BY MS. CABEL� SECONDED BY MR. SABRy TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARIf7G ON
ZOA q84-02 BY ROBERT D. DEGARDNER.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING RYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING CL0.SED AT 9:00 P.M.
Ms. Gabel stated she was concerned about the density.
Mr. Oquist stated he was also concerned about the density and the type of
project this is. Ne stated a good point was made by one of the neighbors
that single people do have a tendency to have parties. It could become a
problem area. He stated it was fine to have low to moderate income housin9
PLANNIN6 COMMISSION MEE7ING, MAY 9, 1984 PAGE 7
for singles, but the City also needs to be considering low to moderate
income housing for families. This is not a family development, so he
did not think the low to moderate income was a positive issue here.
Mr. Saba stated he thought traffic was an issue. He really felt this
development did not fit into this neighborhood. He stated the Loft Home
concept was very interesting and it may fit very well somewhere else, but
not here.
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR. OpUIST� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
DENZAL OF REZONING REQUEST� 20A �iB4-02� &Y ROBERS D. DEGARDNER� TO REZONE
FROM R-2 (ONE FAMtLY DWELISNGS) TO R-3 (GENERAL MULTIPLE DWELLINGS) PART OF
LOTS 3 AND 2Z� NOT TRKEN FOR STREET PURPOSES� AND ALL OF LOTS 4� 5� 6� 7� 8�
9, AND 10, A1vD LOTS 14, 15, 1.6, 17, 18, 19 AND 20, BLOCK 20, FRIDi�EY PARKJ
AfVD PAR25 OF LO'l5 3 RND 24� NOT TAKEN FOR STREET PURP0.5E5� AND ALL OF LOTS
4� 5� 6� AND 7 AND 19� 20� 2I� 22 AND 23� BIACK 29� FRIDLEY PARK� TO ALLOW
THE DEVELOPMENT OF R 52-UNZT CONDOMINIUM COFIPLEX BETWEEN EAST RIVER ROAD
AND ASHTON AVENUE ON 61ST AND 61 1/2 WAY N.E.
Ms. Schnabel stated she also thought the concept of this development was
excellent, and she commended Mr. DeGardner for bringing it to the City of
Fridley; however, she also felt this was the wrong area for this type of
development. In the proper location, this type of development made very
nice homes for people with certain needs. She stated she was very impressed
with the units when she saw them in Coon Rapids.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTZON
CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY.
4. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT, P,S. #84-03, LOfT
, G R: Being a Rep at of parts of
ots an 4, not taken for street purposes and Lots 4, 5, 6, 7, 29, 20,
21, 22 and 23, Block 19, Fridley Park; and parts of Lot 3 and 21, not taken
for street purposes, and all of Lots 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 14, 15, 16, 17,
18, 19, and 20, Block 20, Fridley Park, to allow the development of a 13
4-unit condominium complex between Ashton Avenue and East River Road on 61st
and 61 1/2 Way N.E.
MOTION BY MS. CRBEL� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO OPEN TXE PUBLIC HEARING ON
P.S. N84-03 BY ROBERT D. DEGARDNER.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOSING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
ilEARING OPEN AT 9:05 P,M.
Mr. Robinson stated they are basically talking about two parcels of land--
3.08 acres combined. The proposal is for eight 4-unit garden Loft Home
apartments on the southerly portion and five 4-unit garden Loft Home apart-
ments on the northerly portion.
Mr. Robinson stated Staff's biggest concern was the lot coverage. Because
it is a difference concept, it does not quite fit into anything they have in
the Zoning Code in terms of interpretation. If these were considered 4-
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plexes, they would have to have 15,000 sq. ft. of lot per 4-plex. As such,
the southerly portion would only allow for five units as opposed to the
eight being proposed, The northerly portion would allow for three units
as oppoed to the five being proposed, for a total of ei9ht (13 being proposed).
Mr. Robinson stated Mr, DeGardner feels these are not 4-plexes, but are
garden-type apartment dwellings. If this was a townhouse development which
would fit under a special single family district, he would be required to
have five acres. With that, if it was rezoned to R-3, he could build
3,000 sq. ft, per unit or 12,000 sq, ft, per 4-plex. On the southerly
portion, he would be allowed six units as opposed to eight. On the northerly
portion, he would be allowed four units as opposed to five, for a total of
ten.
Mr, Robinson stated that if these units are considered apartments, since
they are attached, he wou7d be allowed to build as proposed, 2,500 sq, ft.
per unit or 10,000 sq. ft, per 4-plex for 8 units on the south and 5 on the
north.
Mr. Robinson stated City Staff felt it was really a townhouse-type develop-
ment and, as such, should follow the townhouse density which is 12,000 sq. ft.
with a variance to allow for the new concept,
Mr. Ro6inson stated Staff had some concerns on parking as ]aid out in the
proposal. The petitioner shows 9 ft. stalls. The City requires 10 ft, stalls,
The petitioner meets the minimum amount of parking stalls, but thev are
substandard and they would have to rework the parking with additional
setback requirements.
Mr, Robinson stated another Staff concern was the petitioner needs a 15 ft.
buffer space between the hard surface area and the adjacent R-1 zoning.
Presently, only 5 ft, of buffer space is shown.
Mr. Robinson stated a concern expressed by Engineering was that Ashton Ave.
may require additional easement for possible widening if this project
progressed. That was something that was not clearly defined at this point.
Ms. Schnabel asked if the sewer and water were adequate for a development of
this type.
Mr. Robinson stated he believed that because of the industrial zoning
nearby, that the water and sewer were sufficient to handle a development of
this type. However, this was sanething the Engineering Dept, should check
into.
Mr. DeGardner stated that whe� he first brought this concept to Coon Rapids,
they expressed the same concerns being expressed at this meeting--whether
it is a 4-plex or townhouse development. After discussions and looking at
the concept, the Goon Rapids Planning,Commission concurred that this concept
PLANNING COhA1I55I0N MEETING, MAY 9, 1984 PAGE 9
was far superior to the box-type apartments. He stated this concept meets
all codes.
Ms. Schnabel stated that where the Loft Homes are located in Coon Rapids,
it is a much more open area, and there isn't any residential around it like
there is in Fridley. She felt there was a big difference between the two
sites.
Ms. Gabel stated she did go to Coon Rapids to look at the development there.
She, too, liked the concept, but did not think it was correct for this piece
of property.
Mr. Saba asked about the stora9e of a boat, tent trailer, etc.
Mr. DeGardner stated the owners can have 1-2 garages built if they want.
The code requires 12 stalls per unit for parking. If an awner has a boat,
it is usually stored off the property. The association would regulate such
things as outside storage, parties, etc., so these units would be self-
governing. Actually there is more control than there is with single family
homes.
Mr. Minton asked about the hei9ht of the buildings since that seemed to be
a concern expressed by the neighbors.
Mr. DeGardner stated each unit was a 2-story unit with a peak. It would be
similar to an expansion-type house with a peak. He would guess the height
at the peak was 26-28 ft.
Mr. Robinson stated the limit on height in R-1 zoning is 30 ft.
MO_TION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR. MZNTON, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HERRZNG
ON P.S. N84-03 BY ROBERT D. DEGARDNER.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCH!lABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING CLQSED AT 9:25 P.M.
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUl7CZL
DENIAL OF CONSIDERATION OF A PRELZMZNARY PLAT� P.S. k84-03� IAFT HOMES OF
FRZDLEY� BY ROBEaTT D. DEGARDNER� BEZNG A REPLAT OF PRRTS OF ZATS 3 AlJD 24,
NOT TRKEN FOR STREET PURPQSES AND LOTS 4� 5� 6, 7� 29, 20, 21, 22 AND 23,
BIACK 19� FRZDLEY PRRK; AND PARTS OF IAT 3 AND 21� NOT TAKEN FOR STREET
PURPOSES, AND ALL OF LOTS 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 24, 15, S6, 17, 18, 19 AND
20, BLOCK 20, FRIDLEY PARK� TO ALLOW TNE DEVELOPMENT OF A 13 4—UfJIT CONDO —
MZNIUM COMPLEX BE2WEEN ASHTON AVENUE AND EAST RIVER ROAD ON 61ST AND 61 I/2
WAY N.E. � FOR THE FOLLOFIING REA5017S:
1. THE PROPOSED PLAN ZS NOT CON6ISTENT WZTH THE CITY'S COI�REHENSIVE PLAN.
2. THE DENSZ2Y� AS PROPQSED� IS TOO HIGN FOR THIS AREA.
3. CONCERN ABOUT AN INVESTOR BUYING BUILDINGS FOR RENTAL, CREATING
PROBLEMS FOR THE NEIGHBORS.
4, DRAINAGE BE CONTRINED WITNSN THE ARER WHERE POOR SOIL CONDITIONS EXIST.
5. CONCERN AS TO WNETHER WATER AND SEWER LINES ARE RDEQUATE.
6. PARKZNG STALZS DO NOT MEET ZONING ORDIPANCE.
PLANNIN6 COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 9, 1984 PAGE la
7. BUFFER RREA BE2S�'EEN R-1 AND DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE LARGER,
8. FACT THAT ASHTON MIGXT HAVE TO BE WIDENED TO ACCOMMODATE
ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC GENERRTED BY A DEVELOPMENT LIKS THIS.
Ms. Schnabel stabed she would like either the Planning Commission or one of
the member commissions (possibly Community Development Commission) take a
look at a new definition for a condominium/apartment development with
density figures and come up with some recorrrnendations.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCNNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRSED UNANIMDUSLY.
Ms. Schnabel stated both the rezoning request and the preliminary plat
request would go together as a package to the City Council. She suggested
the petitioner call the Planning Department to verify the date when this
would go to City Council.
5. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP �i84-07, BY WOODCREST
BAPTIST CHURCH: Per Section 205,09, 1, 3, A, of the Fridley City Code, to
a ow^fl t�construction of a multi-purpose gymnasium type 6uilding on 6utlot 1,
Holiday Hills Second Addition, the same being 6875 University Avenue N.E.
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HERRING
ON SP N84-07 BY D700DCREST BAPTIST CHURCH.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE� CIfAIRWOMAlI SCHNABEL DECIARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN AT 9:35 P.M.
Mr. Robinson stated Wpodcrest Baptist Church was located north of Rice
Creek, east of University, and south of 69th Ave. The property was surrounded
by Columbia Arena on the north, R-1 on the east soutfi and west. He stated
the proposed multi-purpose gymnasium building would be located just south
of the existing school and church and would be over 11,000 sq. ft.
Mr. Robinson stated that in a church area, whenever a church does any
development, it requires a special use permit. In trying to fit a church
into different zoning areas they use CR-1 zoning, so a 30 ft. setback was
required from the neighborhing residential. Otherwise, the church meets all
the other setback requirements with the exception of the driveway which should
be setback from the right of way 20 feet, but is only 15 feet.
Mr, Robinson stated artother concern looked at by Staff was the parking.
The present lot has 272 stalls. The new addition would require 96 stalls
with 8,700 sq. ft. of gathering area and 2,200 sq. ft. in locker and shower
area. The existing school, using a 1-250 ratio, requires 67 stalls. The
existing church, using a ratio of 1- lOJ stalls (10,800 sq. ft.), requires
108 stalls. The total parking stalls required is 271, so there is adequate
parking even with the new gymnasium.
Mr. Robinson stated the petitioner has indicated that the gymnasium would
not actually be an additional parking burden to the complex and typically
PLANNIf�G COMhiIS5I0N MEETING, MAY 9, 1984 PAGE 11
would not be used at the same time as the church activities. They have
indicated the parking lot has never been full to overflowing, and this
development would not increase the parking demand.
Ms. Schnabel asked about the height of the proposed gymnasium.
Mr. Dave Radabough stated he was Chairman of the Building Comnittee for
Woodcrest Baptist Church. He stated the height of the building from the
floor level to where tne roof starts is 21 ft. From that point to the
peak is approximately 9 ft. more. He stated it would be approximately the
same height as the present auditorium the 9ymnasium will be parallel to,
The 6ack of the school is flat on top and is approx. 21 ft.
Mr. Oquist asked about Rice Creek Watershed Board approval.
Mr. Radabough stated they have gotten approval from the Rice Creek Water-
shed Board. A7though they did not have to, they considered the existing
parking lot, as well as the existing building, in their flow into Rice
Creek. They designed a flow restriction area as well as a skimming area to
take care of anything that would go into the Creek.
Mr. Radabough stated the initial building was built in 1964, and the school
was added in 1975. At this time, they are proposing the construction of a
gymnasium to support the existing school, The reason they desire this
addition is because they have to transport the children by bus to other
gymnasiums they rent for their Phy. Ed. and other programs. At these gyms,
they do not have the use of showers which is important. He stated they
make a lot of noise transporting the children back and forth; also there is
the added risk of transporting the children. With the temperature changes
from the 9ymnasiums back to the bus and from the bus into the school,
especially during the cold winters, they have to consider the health of the
children.
Mr. Radabough stated they will be able to go from the church into the pro-
posed gymnasium so there will be a quiet entry into the gymnasium. By
having this facility, it would eliminate bussing, there would be less risk
to the children and to the children's health.
Mr. Radabough stated the gymnasium would also be used for recess time. Right
now, 2-3 times a day, the children go out on the parking lot. In the winter
time, they have recess in a 30 ft. by 60 ft. cafeteria/recess room, and
this is not adequate.
Mr. Radabough stated they are also proposing an apartment above the locker
room. The apartment would be used to house missionaries or other pastors
and families, on a temporary basis.
Mr. Kondrick asked how many students attended Woodcrest School.
PLANNIP�G COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 9, 1984
Mr. Chrisman, Principal of Woodcrest 6aptist Academy, 271 - 67th Ave.,
stated they have approximately 747 students in the school Pre K- 12.
Ms. Schnabel asked if there was anyone in the audience who would like to
comment on this proposal.
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Mrs. Bev Eberhard, 436 Rice Creek Blvd., stated she was very concerned about
the large size of the proposed structure, because the only view from the
back of their home would be the side of this building.
Mr. Dean Eberhard, 436 Rice Creek Blvd., stated he would like to submit to
the Planning Corrmi-sion a petition of approximate7y 80 signatures of people
opposing the construction of a gymnasium at Woodcrest Baptist Church. He
stated he would like to address some of the major concerns expressed by the
neighbors:
1. The traffic in the area. They are concerned that the gymnasium
will increase the traffic due to expanded programs of the school and church.
At the present time, traffic is a concern with activities at Columbia Arena,
the parks, the athletic fields, and the church. There is no alternate route
into their neighborhood; there is only one way in and one way out, and this
also pertains to the egress and access to the parking lot at Woodcrest Baptist
Church. They are particularly concerned about the traffic during the evening
hours and the activities that might occur at that time,
2. The safety of the children and the residents in the area, because
they do have access to the park at the end of the block.
3. They are concerned about the noise levels because of increased
traffic and the noise ]evel of any athletic activities going on at the
school.
4. Playground activities. The only playground area the church does
have is the park area, and the neighbors are concerned about the requirements
on public parks.
5. Future expansion of the church. They are wondering where this
expansion will take place in the future as enrollment and/or membership in
the church increases. It appeared to the residents that the expansion would
have to either be by building up.on the existing educational building or
acquiring property to the east which is residential.
6. The aesthetics. They feel the structure will give a warehouse-type
atmosphere to the neighborhood. It will block out the view they now have
and a few hours of sunlight in the afternoon, Will there be heating elements
on the roof? Will these be aesthetically detractive to the property?
7. They are concerned that the use of the gymnasium will be for other
groups. As a result, it will increase traffic flow and activities at the
church.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 9, 1984 PAGE 13
8. Does the apartment dwelling require some special zoning?
Mr. Eberhard stated that as a homeowner, he is concerned about the view
they will have from their home. They bought their home in 1968 and purchased
the home because of the view they have of Rice Creek. They are concerned
about whether this structure will affect the market value of their home if
they were to sell.
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MR. MINTON, TD RECEIVE PETZTIAN NO. 6-84.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CNAZRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOSION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr, DuWayne Bakke, 454 Rice Creek Blvd., stated he was concerned about the
traffic, traffic congestion, the warehouse effect of the new structure, and
possible future expansion of the church and school. He stated the church
has only one entrance and one exit. In the evening hours and sometimes
during the day, when activities are getting out, there is an enormous amount
of traffic congestion in the parking lot. When activities are going on
at the church and Columbia Arena at the same time, the cars really stack up
at the intersection. He was also concerned for the safety of the children
walking or biking to the park.
Mr. Bakke stated the church will be using the last green area they have for
this gymnasium. so that means some of the playground area will move up into
the Fridley public park. As a property owner, he had a problem with the
school using the park as a playground, because when the school children come
into the park, the rest of the neighbors move off. He stated he recently
received a letter from the church apolo9izing for them forcing the residents
off the park.
Mr. Bakke stated there are 147 students at the school. According to infr�rma-
tion he was given, 90% of those students are non-Fridley residents.
Mr. Jerry Ulvin, 449 Rice Creek Blvd., stated to put the size of this new
gymnasium in perspective, it would be very close in size to City Hall. Did
the Planning Commission feel a warehouse-type building of this size would
be appropriate along Rice Creek?
Mr. Radabough stated that regarding the concern that the new structure
would generate more traffic, they will not be changing the flow of traffic
from what is now.
Ms. Schnabel asked about the school`s enrollment capacity.
Mr. Chrisman stated the capacity was about 200.
Ms. Schnabel asked about church membership.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MAY 9 1984 PAGE 14
Mr. Radabought stated they have 180-200 members; however, on a Sunday morning
they average around 500 and have had some special times when the attendance
is �p to 900. They would never use the church and hold athletic events at
the same time.
Ms. Margaret Maeckelbergh, 425 Rice Creek Blvd., asked if a stage would be
included in this new gymnasium.
Mr. Radabough stated they are putting in a platform for a stage. They have
one big play a year.
Mr. Chrisman stated that 39 out of the 147 students are residents of Fridley.
Eight of the 11 faculty members are residents of Fridley, so that equals
more than 10% who are residents of the City.
Mr. Chrisman stated that in all the activities he has been involved in in
the four years he has been at Woodcrest and in the State of Minnesota, he
has never attended a Christian school sporting event or dramatic event that
drew in excess of what the church normally draws on a Sunday.
Ms. Pat Johanson, 424 Rice Creek Blvd „ stated their back yard backs up to
the church's property. They have seen as many as a dozen buses from all
over, and that is without a gymnasium. With a gymnasium, she did not know
what it would be like when they have competitive sports. She was concerned
about what type of air conditioning or heating units would go on the roof.
Right now there is an unsightly green metal unit on the roof,
Mr. Chrisman stated the church has ten bus routes on Sunday morning to pick
up children in the community for Sunday School. But, that is sanething that
is going on right now without the gymnasium. There will be ❑o activity
taking place in the gymnasium that will equal what they are already doing now
on Sunday or any other night of the week.
Mr. Radabough stated he did not know about a green metal roof unit, but he
would be happy to talk to the neighbors and do something to make it look
better. He stated they will not have any air conditioning units on the
outside at all. It will strictly be a ventilation system for cooling.
Mr. Quentin Freeburg, 301 Rice Creek Terrace, stated they live across the
Creek from the church. They have lived in their home for approximately
ten years. Their view of the current structures, as weil as the proposed
structure, is from their living room and dining room windows. He stated it
appears the church has made an effort to try to get materials that blend
in with the existing structures as well as the habitat. He stated they have
no objection to the new gymnasium. He stated he would like to read a letter
from a neighbor who could not be at the meeting. The letter was from
Dr. David Zeigler, 315 Rice Creek Terrace, which stated they did not feel
the proposed gymnasium would affect them and were not opposed to the
building.
PLaNNING COMMISSION MEETIN6. MAY 9. 1984
PAGE 15
Mr. Freeburg stated they have been members of Woodcrest Baptist Church for
9 years and have two children who attend the school. One of the things
that drew them to the church were the activities and that the activities
were not upsetting to the comnunity. They would like to see the proposed
gymnasium built as a supportive function to the school.
Ms. Sharon Gustafson, 437 Rice Creek Blvd., stated she would like to address
the aesthetics. She Nas sure the Planning Canmission was aware of parts of
the City that have not been planned very well. She stated this area is
highly visible from Highway 47, and she felt the proposed gymnasium would
be very detrimental to the look of the neighborhood and to the corrmunity
itself.
Mr. Roger Reed, 290 Rice Creek Blvd., stated he was directly across from
the existing building and the proposed construction. He has lived in this
location for seven years. He felt the church has maintained its building
well. He felt the church was an asset to the community, and he did not feel
it detracted from his property in any way, He stated he is a member of
Woodcrest Baptist Church and chose to live in this location to be near the
church. He felt the gymnasium was really needed for the children.
Mr. George Lunde, 545 Rice Creek Blvd., stated he and his family are new-
comers to fridley. They are also members of Woodcrest Baptist Church.
They joined the church about one year ago. They were living in White Bear
Lake and decided to move into Fridley to locate relatively near the church.
They decided on their home because it is a very nice neighborhood and is
secluded. It is near University Ave., and he felt the church property formed
a very good buffer between the residential area and University Ave. fie
stated he felt the value of property is really determined by the buyers
coming in. If he was moving in again and the gymnasium was already there,
he would still have moved into the neighborhood.
Ms. Lana Freeburg, 301 Rice Creek Terrace, stated that in reference to the
comments about the people being aesthetically affected by the building,
she did not understand how the neighbors could present a petition with 80
signatures when 80 homes are not even close to the property. She could
understand the concern by some people regarding the traffic, but she would
hate that to be the only excuse when there is already a significant amount
of traffic from, not only the church and school, but Columbia Arena, the
park, and the new ballfields. The traffic lights could be timed so the
traffic can move through a little more quickly. She stated they have small
children, and they do use the facilities at the park. The reason the
church uses the park facilities is because they do not have facilities on
their property. If the gymnasium was built, they would have their activities
in their own building.
Mr. G. DeShaw, 530 Rice Creek Blvd., stated this is one of the most unique
neighborhoods in Fridiey. It has the lowest crime rate in Fridley. It is
buffered by Locke Park, Rice Cree, and University Ave. There is only one
way in and one way out.. They are concerned about everything that happens
in their neighborhood. He stated the people have an honest concern about
their property values, because this is a warehouse-type building going in.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MAY 9 1984 PA6E 16
Pastor Clark Poorman stated he has been the pastor at Woodcrest for 14 years.
The school was established in 1973. With rare excaption, he felt the young
people have proven themselves well disciplined and there have been few
incidents. When the educational wing was built in 1973, being new to the
church and not knowing all the details, they did not check with the neighbors.
They tried to make a number of concessions to try to maintain a good rapport
with the neighbors. They want to continue that good rapport. They want to
do something about the unsightly rooftop unit that was mentioned by one of
the neighbors, but there isn't much that can be done to dress up a gymnasium-
type building. He stated he appreciated the concerns of the neighbors. If he
were a property owner on that street, he would also be concerned. He stated
he hoped the Planning Comnission realized the church was wil]ing to do every-
thing they can to be amiable to their neighbors and hopefully this will not
mean ceasing to put up something they desperately need.
Ms. Schnabel stated she felt there was a real need for comnunication between
the church and the neighbors. She would encourage the two groups to get
together and discuss this proposal.
MOTION BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MS, GABEL� TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON
SP R84-07 BY WOODCREST BAPTIST CHURCH.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMRN SCFINABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING CIASED AT I2:12 P.M.
Mr. Saba stated that in looking at the needs, benefits, and detriments,
he felt the need for a gymansium took precedent. He did not think there
would be any traffic probiems because of the new structure. He sympathized
with tlie aesthetic concerns, but this is a CR-1 zone and a lot can qo in
a CR-1 zone.
Mr. Svanda stated he did not necessarily agree that the traffic was not an
issue--perhaps with regard to safety. He did not like the warehouse-barn
effect. He wou7d not like to have a bui7ding ]ike this 30 ft, from his
home, and he was not in favor of the proposal.
Ms. Gabel stated it seemed traffic was an issue in terms of health, safety,
and welfare of the people, but aesthetics was not and had nothing to do
in terms of the burden of proof.
Mr. Kondrick stated he agreed that aesthetics was not a good enough reason
to deny this special use permit. He did not think traffic was an issue
because he did not feel the traffic would be any different than it is now.
Ne would prefer to have the children in the gymnasium than in the parking Tot.
Mr. Oquist stated he also did not think there would be an increase in traffic
because of the gymnasium. He sympathized because of the aesthetics, but
Ms. Gabel had brought up a good point, and he was not so sure the Plannin9
Comnission could deny the special use permit because of the reasons that
have been brought up.
PLANNING COMMISSIOW MEETIN6 MAY 9 1984 PAGE 17
Mr. Minton stated he agreed that the traffic was not a big issue. He felt
that if the congregation has a need for a gymnasium which they have
obviously demonstrated, the Planning Commission should make every accomo-
dation they can to allow for that. There were two issues he would like
clarified before he could vote on this: (1) The aesthetics. He felt that
was a real issue that possibly could be worked out with the neighbors and
the church. He felt there were a number of possibilities there. (2) The
temporary living quarters. Is there any special zoning for that?
Ms. Schnabel stated she was sharing some of the same feelings in terms of
traffic. She did not see that as an added detriment. She thought the
biggest traffic problems were being generated by the church activities,
services, special events, etc. She was concerned about the aesthetics and
was not comfortab7e with the design of the addition. She asked about the
feasibility of sinking the building a few feet into the ground.
Mr. Wayne Tower, Suburban Engineering, stated that to sink the structure
into the ground was nearly impossible because of the elevation of the
existing sanitary sewer. In order for the showers and the toilet facilities
to function in that building, he did not believe they could push that
building down to any degree to make any reasonable effect on the site.
�4s. Schnabel stated she did think there were some other options that needed
to be explored. She did not see a cohesive plan that shows exactly what is
being done, and no landscaping plan has been proposed.
Both representatives from Woodcrest Baptist Church and the neighbors stated
they would be willing to get together and discuss this before it goes to
City Council. The neighbors stated they had been totally unaware of this
proposal until about 8-10 days ago when they received the public hearing
notice.
MOTION BY ldR. OQUIST, SEQ�NDED BY MR. SABA, TO RECOI'fMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF REQUEST FOR A SPECZAL USE PERMZT, SP {�84-07� BY WOODCREST
BAPTIST CHURCH, PER SECTION 205.09.1, 3, R, OF TXE FRZDLEY CITY CODE, TD
ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A MULTI-PURPQSE GYP4QILSIUM TYPE BUILDZNG ON
OUTIAT 1� HOLIDRY HILLS SECOND ADDZTZON� THE SAME BEING 6875 UNdVERSITY
AVENUE N.E,� WITH SNE CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY THE PLANNZNG COMMISSION MEMBERS
AND WITX THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE NEZGXBORS AND REPRESENTATIVES OF
WOODCREST BRPTZST CHURCH GET TPGETNER FOR DZSCUSSIONS BEFORE THI5 REQUEST
GOES TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND WITH THE STIPULATION TXAT THERE BE AN RPPROVED
LANASCAPE PLAN.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TXE MOTION
CARRiED UNANZMDUSLY.
Ms. Schnabel suggested the petttioner contact the Planning Dept, to verify
the date when this would go to City Council.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 9 1984 PAGE 18
6. LOT SPLIT REQUEST: L.S. #84-04, BY CYNTHIA J. BRAAM: Split off the North
eet o Lot 6, Block 2, Spring Valley Ad ition, to make a new building
site at 1443 Rice Creek Road, (Petitioner knows property is land locked.)
Mr, Robinson stated this property was located north of Rice Creek west of
Arthur St. It is a very large lot in excess of 37,000 sq. ft. He stated
there is no plan for a road at this time, but there are a couple of road
easements that have been picked up. Staff has no problem with this request,
6ut one stipulation would be that the lot split is recorded at the County.
The petitioner, Gary Braam, stated the lot split was for future development
if a road should ever go through.
MOTION BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MR, KONDRICK� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF LOT SPLIT REQUEST� L.S, N84-04, BY CYNTHSA J. BRAAM� TO SPLZ2
OFF THE NORTN 249 FEET OF IAT 6� BLOCK 2� SPRING VRLLEY ADDITION� SO MAKE R
NEW BUILDING SITE AT ].443 RICE CREEK ROAD� WITH THE STZPULATION THAT THE
LOT SPLZT HE RECORDED AT THE COUNTY,
UPON A VOICE VpTE, ALL VOTING RYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
7. SALE OF PUBLIC PROPERTIES PROCEDURE:
Mr. Robinson stated that if the Pianning Commission concurs with the "Sale
of Public Properties Procedure", they wi11 be saying that the sale of these
R-1 lots is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan in that they encourage
development of R-1 in R-1 areas. He stated these properties are tax for£eit
properties, park dedication properties, etc. He stated Mr. Moravetz
indicated these properties would be turned over to realtors and sold.
The Canmissioners were concerned with Lot 11, Block 20, fridley Park, as
it was not a buildable lot.
MOTION BY MR. MINTON� SECONDED BY 1�42. SVANDR� TO CONCUR WITN THE SALE OF
PUBLIC PROPERTIES PROCEDURE WITN THE UNDERSTANDING.THRT IF A LOT IS NOT
A BUILDABLE LOT� THIS FACT BE MADE KNOWN ZN WRITING AT TXE TIME OF SALE.
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE� CHAIRF90MAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TXE MOTZON
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8. RECEIVE APRIL 17, 1984, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MK. SVANDA, SECONDED BY MR, KONDRICK, TO RECEIVE TXE APRIL 17, Z984,
ENVIRONMENTAL QURLZTY COMMISSZON MZNUTES.
Mr. Svanda recalled from the minutes that he was disappointed thdt Council had
ap�roved the Hazardous Waste Ordinance prior to the Environmentai QuaTtiy
Commission's approval. He stated the E.q.C. should have been consulted prior
to this action as more work needs to be done on the Ordinance.
UPON A UOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMRN SCHABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MAY 9, 1984 PAGE 14
9, RECEIVE APR1L 19 1984 HOUSIN6 & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHOR_ITY MINUTES:
HOTZON BY MR. SABA� SECQNDED BY MR. SVANDA� TO RECESVE TXE APRSL 19, I984�
HOUSING 6 REDEVELOPMEN2 AUTHORITY MINUTES,
UPON A VOICE YOTE� RLL VOTING AYE, CXAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNRNZMOUSLY,
10, RECEIVE APRIL 23 1984, PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MS, GRBEL� TO RECEZI�E THE APRIL 23� Z984,
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MZNUTES.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AY£, CNRIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECZARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11. RECEIVE APRIL 24, 19$4, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS, GABEL� SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO RECEIVE THE APRIL 24� 1984,
APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING RYE, CHAIRWQMAN SCHNABEL DECLdRED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12. RECEIVE APRIL 24, 1984, ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MR. MINTON, TO RECEZVE THE APRIL 24� 1984,
Et7ERGY COMMISSZON MINUTES.
UPON A YOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CNAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TNE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
OTHER BUSII�ESS:
MOTZON BY MR. SABA, SECONDED BY MS. GABEL, TO REQ(IEST THAT ICE WATER AND
P0.557BLY COFFEE BE PROVIDED TO THE PLANNZNG COMMZSSION MEM9ERS AT EACH MEESING.
OPON A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAZRWOMAN SCHNRBEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ADJOURNMENT:
NOTION BY MR. XONDRICK� $ECONDED BY MR. SVANDA, TO ADJOURN THE MEETZNG. UPON
A VOICE YOTE� RLL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MAY 9, 1984,
PLANNING COMMZSSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT I2:I5 A,M,
Respectfully submitted,
Ci--��-fti
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Recording Secretary
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PUBLIC HEARING
BEFORE THE
PLANNING COMMISSION
Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the
Planning Cortmission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431
University Avenue Northeast on Wednesday,May 23, 1984
in the Council Chamber at 7:3� P.M, for the purpose of:
Consideration of a Special Use Permit> SP
#84-08, Redeemer Lutheran Church, per
Section 205.07.1, 3, (B) of the Fridley
City Code, to allow the construction of an
addition of a fellowship hall and remodeling
for the handicapped, on Lot 2. Block 6,
Edgewater Gardens, the same being 61
Mississippi Way N.E.
Any and all persons desiring to be heard shali be given an opportunity
at the above stated time and Qlace.
VIRGINIA SCHNABEL
CHAIRWOMAN
PLANNING COMMISSIDN
Publish: May 9, 1984
May 16, 1984
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CITY OF FRIDLEY� � ���ECT ' � �. � �
s.a, urwvEws�rr wv�. w. SPECIAL USE PERMIT
FFlIaEY, MN. 6'3"C k121.3r'��
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PWpiIN6 COMMISSION:
CITY OOUNLIL:
STIPULATIONS:
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APPROVED DISAPPROYED DATE �
Np��..��.,�o � iiT�coeu rwiRrH fEE200.00 RECEIPT NO /i77�/
S7REET LOCA7ION Of PiiOPERTY �+ �•�--�_��^^� �+» N E 55432 �
LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF
PRESENT ZONING LLASSIFICATION EXISTING USE OF PROPERTY Chird-
ACREA6E OF PROPERTY 4.27 DESCRIBE BRIEFI.Y THE SPECIAL USE APPLIED FOR:
To�dd..a�'pllnw_.shi� H'" '-`' ^�model for k�a�dicaooed accessibilitv.
Section of the Code:
Has the present appticant previously sought to rezone, plat, oDtain a lot split or
variance or special use permit on the subject site or part of it7 __�es ' no.
What was requested and r+hen?
The undersigned understands that: (a) A list of all residents and owners of pro�er-
ty within 200 feet will be attached to this application.. ..
- • ' ' " �. � '(b) This application must be signed
by all owners of the property, or an expianation �iven why this is not the case.
(c) Responsibility for aRy �efect in the proceedings resulting from the failure to
. list the names and addresss of all residents and property a+enrs of prop�rty in
question. belongs to the undersigned.
A sketch of proposed property and structure must be drawn and atitached. showin9 the
follaring: 1. North direction. 2. Location of the proposed structure on the 1ot.
3. Dimensions of property, proposed structure, and fron and side setbacks. 4. Street
names. 5. Lxation and use of adjacent existing buildings (within 350 feet).
The undersiJned hereby declares that all the facts and respresentations stated in
this apptication are true and correct.
ORTE a SIGNATURf ��
ADDRE55
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MAILING LIST
5P #84-08 Redeemer Lutheran Church
Nels Jahnson
6456 Riverview Terrace N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. Lloyd K..Paund
6461 Ashton Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Michael Higgins
6468 Ashton Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Charles Ames
6473 Ashton Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Jack McCarty
11 65 1/2 Way N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Elwin Boedigheimer
21 65 1/2 Way N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. David Halverson
31 65 1/2 Way N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Ruth Van Ee
41 65 1(2 Way N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Walter Johnson
51 65 1/2 Way N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Douglas
61 65 1/2 Way N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Michael
71 65 1/2 Way N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Sylvia Youmans
81 65 1/2 Way N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Miller
Sichak
Mr. & Mrs. Gerdin Bryan
91 65 1/2 Way N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
PLANNING COMMISSION 5/9/84
Mr. & Mrs. Marshall Bjorklund
10 66th Way N.E. ,
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Kevin McCann
18 66th Way N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Nellie J. Heidt
28 66th Way N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Lawrence Steinmiller
38 66th Way N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Roland Diederich
46 66th Way N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Clifford Fleckten
54 66th Way N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Patricia 0'Brien
62 66th Way N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Richard Hart
70 66th Way N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. John Mehall
80 66th Way N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Donald Patterson
6502 Hickory Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Edward Brooks
6506 Hickory Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Charles Langer
6530 Hickory Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Alfred Klous
6544 Hickory Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
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Mr. & Mrs. Lyle Kulenkamp
58 Mississippi Way N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Rev. & P1rs. LeRoy Erlandson
60 Mississippi Way N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. John Kimbler
80 Mississippi Way N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Dennis Dittmer
7595 N.E. Alden Way
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. b Mrs. Louis Nash
6509 East River Road N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Carl E. Christianson
950 Cottonwood Street N.W.
Coon Rapids, Mn 55434
Murphy Oil Company
6485 East River Road N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Murphy Oil Company
200 Peach Street
Ed Dorado, AR 71730
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part of the West One Half of the Northeast
Quarter of the Southwest Quarter of Section
14, T-3D, R-24, lying between Lots 2 and 3,
said Block 1, and lying northerly of said
Block 2, to allow new development in this
area to have simple legal descriptions.
Any and e>> persons desiring to be heard shall be 9iven an opportunity
at the above stated time and place.
VIRGINIA SCHNABEL
CHAIRWOMAN
PLANNING COMMISSION
Publish: May 9. 19$4
May 16, 1984
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MAMF. Fridlev Houseino 3 Redevelopgpnt A�thority FEE�jved RECEIPT 110
STREET LOCATION OF �RDPERT1f
Lf6AL DESCRIPTION OF PROPERT1f and t at part o t�e o t e o /4
Sec.
PRESENT ZONING CLASSIFICATION S-2 EXISTiN6 US£ OF Pi�PEftTY �nc. Yacated St. 8 Alleys
ACREA&E OF PROPERTY 4.8 DESCRIBE BRIEPL1f THE PROPOSED ZONING CLASSIFICATION
�R TI�PE OF USE AND IMPRDYEMENT PRAPOSED Need leaats for�fiis area
Plat called Plaza Center Additiai
Has the present applicant previously sought to rezone, plat. obtain a lot split or
variance or special use permit on the sub3ect slte or part of it? _�yes no.
Nhat was requested and when?
The undersigned understands that: (a) A Tist of all residents and owners of proper-
ting),�aust5be a tacD�d to'thisc ppil�ation.aP(b)CThis�application�mus�t beesignedat
by all owners of the property, or an explanation �iven why this is not the case.
(c) Responsi4ility for any Eefect in the proceedings resuiting from the failure to
. tist Lhe names and addresss of a11 residents and property owenrs of prop�rty in
question, belongs to the undersigned.
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�.s�ltd� of proposed property and structure �nust be drawn and attached, showing tbe
#�17��y: 1. North direction. 2. Location af the proposed structure on the 1ot.
�,_���ensions of propert,y, QroPnsed structure, and fron and stde setbacks. 4. Street
ii►8aes, `'�. location and use of adjacent existing buiidings (withl� 350 feei).
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The undenigned i►ereby declares that atl the facts and respresenLattons stated in•
thts application are true and co
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6875 Highway No. 65 N. E.
P.O. Box 32308 32
Minneapolis, Minnesota 55432
89o-6510
12350 River Ridge Blvd.
Burnsville, Minnesota 55337
April 30, 1984 � -T �,yc.�--
'� G�NERAL SCRIPTION FOR CITY PLAT
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Blocks 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5, Rees Addition to Fridley Park, includ-
inq all vacated streets and alleys. Also that part of the W 1/2
of the Northeast 1/4 of the SW 1/4 of Section 14, Township 30,
Range 24 lying between Lots 2 and 3, said Block 1 and lying north-
erly of said Block 2.
Robert Minder, Reg. E.g. Wm. E. Price, Reg. E�g. H Wilfnm Rogers, Reg. Surv. Gary R. Fiarris, Reg. Surv. Perer J Moh.wro, Reg. Eg.
Wm. E Jensen, Reg. Eng. WIGom d B.ezinsky, Reg. Erg. Robert 9kich. Reg. Sum. Brure A. Po�erwn, Reg. E.g. Danief P. Johnson, Reg. Eng.
MAILING LIST
P.S. p84-04 Plaza Center Addition
by HRA
RAO Manufacturing
200 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Fridley Covenant Church
Rev. Donald Lundquist
6390 University Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Dean G. Yatne
415 63rd Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Rodney W. Billman
151 Silver Lake Road
New Brighton, Mn 55112
Mr. & Mrs. Reginald Cobb
6281 6th Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Herbert Evans
6261 6th; Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Ronald Nienaber
6251 5th Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Howard Nelson
6261 Sth Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Albert McClimek
6271 5th Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. William Sims
6281 5th Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
William Berry
Frid]ey State Bank
6315 University Avenue N.E
Fridley, Mn 55432
Planning Corranission 5/9/84 33
G. Hayano, C. Spieker, Dave Harris,
and Weaver, Talle & Herrick
6279 University Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
General Manager -.._
Northern Cablevision
350 63rd Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
[i_&_ Investi mpany
6379 Un Avenue N.E.
Fr' ey, Mn 554
Jai M. Suh
The Towle Company
600 2nd Avenue South
Minneapolis, Mn 55502
Gift House Stamps, Inc.
The Towle Company
212 6th Street
Minneapolis, Mn 55402
Mr. & Mrs. Duane Jorgenson
288 Mercury Drive N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Thomas Clark
266 Mercury Drive N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Mark Sampson
271 Sylvan LN N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Robert Hosman
281 Sylvan Lane N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Michael McPhillips
291 Sytvan Lane N.E.
Fridley> Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. William Camp, �r.
6280 University Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
P.S. #84-04 Piaza Center Addn.
Page 2
Phillips Petrole �m Company
755 New Ballas Road South
St. Louis, MO 63141
Borris A. Zile
431 Mississippi Street N.E.'
Fridley, Mn 55432
David N. Bestland
421 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Bennet Sorum
411 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Alwood Beck
401 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Sne-6eeden
436-63��-AveAae-N-E.
F���3ey,-F�-55432-
Nr, & Mrs. Alwood Beck
401 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr, & Mrs. George Meissner
373 Mississippi Street N.E.
fridley, Mn 55432
Clifford A. Nelson
365 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Otto Marsoiek
355 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridiey, Mn 55432
Thiesen Partnership
Norma 5wanso�
361 Rice Creek Terrace
fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Roger Harrrwn
388 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. John Halling
380 66th Avenue N.E.
fridiey, Mn 55432
Mr. John Hitzman
378 66th Avenue N.E.
Frid]ey, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Harold Olsson
376 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
0. L. Sayther
374 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Donald Hinz
372 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Sylvester Klous
370 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Donald Bennethum
368 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Fridley Apartments
7900 Xerxes Avenue South
Minneapolis, Mn 554�1
Fridley Apartments
460 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Anoka 6ounty Library
Jerry Young
707 Highway 10
Blaine, Mn 55432
Mark Ha99erty
N.E. Suite 301
6401 University Avenue N.E.'
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Ellsworth Hinz
384 66th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Tim Signorelli
Columbia Park Properties
3620 Central Avenue N.E.
fridley, MN 55421
Gus Doty
Realty World
6401 University
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PUBLIC HEARING
BEFORE THE
PLANNING COMMISSION
Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the
Planning Comnission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431
University Avenue Northeast on Wednesday, May 23, 1984
in the Council Chamber at 7:30 P.M. for the purpose of:
Consideration of a Special Use Permit, SP H
84-09, by Richard E. 6reen, per Section
205.15.1, 3, (D), to allow a repair garage
on Lot 1, Block 1, Target Addition, the
same being 765 53rd Avenue N.E.
Any and a11 persons desiring to be heard shall be 9iven an opportunity
at the above stated time and place.
VIRGINIA SCHNABEL
CHAIRWOMAN
PLANNIN6 COMMISSION
Publish: MaY 9� 1984
May 16, 1984
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STIPULATIONS:
NAME RICHARD E GREEN FEE �OV RECEIPT NO ! a^l� 7
STREET IOCATION Of PRUPER7Y 53R AYENUE AND TARGE7 STORE E�RaNrF
LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF PROPERTY LOT 1 BLOCK 1 TARGET ADDITION
PRESENT 20NING CLASSIFICATION C-3 El(ISTING USE OF PROPER7Y VACANT
ACREAfE OF PROPERTY 22,171 SQ. FIUESCRIBE BRIEFLY THE SPECIAL USE APPLIED FOR:
MINOR [�TOR REPAiR LIMITFD TO OIL CHANGES TUGE UPS aNn orierFn.ann nN SAIES
Section of the Lode: ZQNING CODE �D�• �S�
Has the present appticant previously sought to rezone, D�at, obtain a lot split or
variance or special use permit on the subject site or part of it1 ��es�_no.
6lhat wa�requested and when? 7/�-t�..:.� • �^-°�--� —
The undersignedVunderstands that: (a) A list of all residents and owners of prover-
ty within 200 feet w1i1 be attached to this application• •�
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by all a+ners of the property. or an expianation �iven why this is not the case.
(c) Responsibility for aqy .iefect in the proceedings resulting from the failure to
. list the names and addresss of all residents and propertY owenrs of propRrty in
Question, belongs to the undersigned.
A sketch of proposed property and structure a�ust be drawn and attached, showing the
folla+ing: 1. North direction. 2. Location of the proposed structure on the lot.
3. ' Diaensions of property, proposed structure, and fron and side setbacks. 4. Street
names. 5. Location and use of adjacent existing buildings (within 350 feet).
The undersigned hereby declares that all
this application are true and correct.�
DI1TE °( -30 - j'y S1GNA7URE %
the facts and respresentations stated in
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Planning Cortmiission 5/9/84
MAILING LIST
SP #84-09, Richard E. Green
Repair Garage at 765 53rd Avenue N.E.
Mr. Richard Green
901 132nd Lane N.E.
Blaine, MN 55434
Cohagra, Inc.
Tax Department
1 Central Park Plaza
Omaha, NE 68102
Mr. Chet Herringer
4121 Stinson Blvd. N.E.
Minneapolis, Mn 55421
Q Petroleum Corp.
8148 Pillsbury Avenue
Minneapolis, Mn 55420
Dayton Hudson Corp.
777 Nicollet Mall
Minneapolis, Mn 55402
Solar Wash Inc.
1622 West Innsbruck Parkway
Columbia Heights, MN 55421
United Surplus Stores
100 East 7th Street
St. Paul, MN 55101
City of Columbia Heights
590 40th Avenue N.E.
Columbia Hei9hts, MN 55421
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PLANNIhIG CQI�JdISSION: APPRGVCD , DiSHPP'r.OVED____ RATE NO _
CI7Y CCUICIL: APPRO'rED DISAPPROVED_ DATE ' NO_
PARK FEL REQUIRED:
STIFULhTIO�S:
PROPERTY OIJNFR(S
ADDRESS(ES
PRGPERiY LOC,aTiON ON SIREE
LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF PRO?E
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The undersigned hereby d2clares that all the facts and representations stated in this
application are true anJ correct. //
DATE:_ 5' ��_ SI6NK1"URE (�(�J �'C�'"�`°''�
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NOTICE: A sketch of tF�e property d th propesed 7ot split r+ith any existin9 struc-
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(See reverse side for additicnal instructions)
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Effeetive January 17, 1984
198-0 POLICY STATF?�NT ON PAAR FSfiS
ON LAAD SUBDIVISION
Date
In determining fair market va2ue of public areas for land subdivision for eash payment as
required Dy Ordinance i633. the following values xill be used:
Residential Subdivision
Residential Lot Split
Commercial/Industrial Subdivisioa or Lot Split
;1,500.00 per lot
S 750.00 per lot
= 0.023 per aq. ft.
This fee Sa to be paid at the time of Pinal plat or lot aplit approval. The City Council
may defer collection to the time a building permit is requested for individual lots
creaLed by such subdivision/lot split.
The City retains the option to accept an equivalent amount in cash from the applicant for
part or all of the portion required to be dedicated.
PARR FEE AGREEf�NT
The undersigned understands that according to the City Pla'ting Ordinance, the folloWing
public park land dedication is required to plat residentlal, commercial or industrial
zoned property.
IL is further understood that the public park land dedication or cash payment equivalent
is at the discretion of the City. d
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It is agreed that a cash payment oP ��S� will be paid according to the above stated
policy for the following subdivision/lot split.
IL is agreed that the following land dedication is provided according to the above stated
policy for the following subdivision/lot split:
Dedication:
Subdiviaion/Lot Sp11t
The undersigned further agrees to notify all future property owners or assigns of the eash
payment requirement, if it is Lo be collected at the time of issuance of a building
permit.
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NOTICE: A sketcA of the property and the proposed lot split rith any ezisting struc-
tures shown should accompany this application. "
.(See reverse side for �dditional instructions)
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Effeetive January 17, 1984
1984 POLICY STATF?�NT ON PARR FE&S
ON LAIiD SOBDZVISION
Date
in determining fair market value of public areas for land aubdivision for cash payment as
required by Ordinance #633, the folloving values uill be used: '
Residential Subdivision
Aesidential Lot Split
Commercial/Industrial Subdivision or Lot Split
=7,500.00 per lot
S i50.00 per lot
= 0.023 Per sq. ft.
I This fee is to be paid at the time of fiaal plat or lot split approval. The City Councll
may defer collection to the time a building permit is requested for individual lots
created by auch subdivision/lot split.
IThe City retains the option to aceept an equivalent amount in cash from the applicant for
i part or all of the portion required to be dedicated.
PARR FEE AGREEHENT
The undersigned understands that according to the City Pla'ting Ordinance, the following
public park land dedication is required to plat residential, commercial or industrial
zoned property.
It is further understood that the public park land dedicatlon or cash payment equivalent
is at the discretion of the City.
It is agreed that a cash payment oP ; xill be paid according to the above stated
policy for the following aubdivision/lot split.
It is agreed that the following land dedication is provided according to the above stated
policy for the following aubdivision/lot aplit:
Dedication:
Subdiviaion/Lot Split
The underaigned further agrees to aotity all future property owners or assigns of the cash
payment requiremeat, if it is to be collected at the time of iasuance of a building
permit.
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CALL TO ORDER:
CITY OF FRIDLEY
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION
t4EETIM6
MAY 3, 1984
Chairperson Goodspeed called the May 3, 1984, Human Resources Com�ission meeting
to order at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Mer�bers Present: Brian Goodspeed, Bob Minton, Peter Treuenfels, Arlie Niemi
Members Absent
Others Present
Sarbara Kocher
Biil Hunt, Administrative Assistant
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
The following items were added to the agenda:
Emergency Weather Warning System - Item E under Old Business
Banfill Tavern Progress Report - Item F under Old Business
MOTION BY AlR. TREUEIJFEZS� SECONDED $Y MR, MINTON� TO APpROVE THE AGENDR AS
AML7VDED,
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAZRPERSON GOODSPEED DECLARED TNE MOTION
CARRSED UNANIMOUSLY.
APPROVAL OF APRIL 5, 1984, NUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION HINUTES:
Pf0^ION BY F1R. MINTON, SECONDED BY MR. TREUENFELS� TO APPROVE THL APRIL 5, 1984,
HUIIAN RESQVRCES COMMISSION MINU2E5.
Mr. Minton stated that on page 4, paragraph 3, the word "quote" should be
changed to "quota".
UPON A VDICE WTE� ALL VOTINC AYE�
APPROVED AS AffENDED.
1. OLD BUSINESS:
GOODSPEED DECLARED THE MINUSES
a, Consideration of Funding of Human Service Organizations (1983 CDBG)
Mr. Nunt stated he had written letters to all the orqanizationt that
have submitted funding requests informing them of the recommendations
HUMAN RESOURCES CON�IISSION MEETING�Y 3} 1984 PAGE 2
made by the Camiission at t6eir April 5th meeting and that these
reca+mendations will be presented to the City Counci7 on Monday,
, May i. He had also included a copy of the portion of tfie April 5th
Canmission minutes pertaining to the funding recarinendations.
Mr. Hunt stated that in the letter to the City Band, he had added a
paragraph informing the City Band that it was the opinion of the Human
Resources Comnission that tfie Fridley City Band's funding request did
not meet the guideli�es for funding issued by the Dept. of Housing &
Urba� Development, but tfiat this opinion in no way reflected on the
value of the City Ba;,d to the comnunity nor the objective of the
request for funds.
Mr, Hunt stated he had given the Comnission members copies of a
letter addressed to Mr. Qureshi, City Manager, from Anoka County
regarding the "1984 Proposed Statement of Comnunity Development
Objectives and Projected Use of Funds". This letter inciuded a
"Summary of Pr000sed Activities for 1984 Anoka County Comnunity
Development Block Grants". He stated this was for the Commission's
information only.
Mr. Goodspeed suggested the Comnission contact the other cortmunities that
had received CD66 monies for public service montes.
Mr. llunt stated he would contact Coon Rapids, Columbia Heights, and
Slaine and ask them to share information on the public service funding
they received,
b. Consideration of Seat Selt Safety and Child Restraints
Mr. Treuenfels suggested that since 11s. Kocher, who was most interested
in this topic, was not at the meeting, this item be continued untii the
next meeting.
M0270N BY MR, TREI7ENFEIS� SECOl7DED BY MR. MINTON� TO CONTINUE DISCUSSiON
CW SEAT BELT SAF'ETY AND CHILD RESTRAINTS UNTZL THE NEXT MEETZNG. �
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CNAZRPERSON GOOASPEED DECLARED THE
MOTZON CARRZED UNANINOUSLY.
c. Consideration of the Promotion of Volunteerism in Fridley
Mr. Minton stated that because of a heavy job workload and because the
time is getting short, he had one solution that might be appropriate
in recognizing the volunteers for the City of Fridley, That solution
was to send a"thank you" card to those volunteers.
Mr. Minton stated that in calling the various departments in the City,
he found there would be approximately 550 volunteers that they would
need to recognize.
HU14AN RESO�RCES COMMISSION MEETING MAY 3 1984 PAGE 3
d,
Mr. Minton stated the "thank you" card could say the foliowing: "This
is just a note to say 'thank you' for the volunteer work you are
performing for the City of fridley. As you probably knav, the week of
May 6-12 is National Volunteer Week, and the Fridley Numan Resources
Comnission wants to take this opportunity to express our appreciation
to you Who has contributed so significantly to the qualiiy of our
comnunity." Signed by thairperson of the Human Resources Commission.
The Commissioners felt this was an excellent idea.
Mr, Hunt stated he would see that the card was printed a�d sent out to
the volunteers.
Review of the 1984 Work P1an
Mr. Hunt stated he had put this item on the agenda so the Comnission
could review the work plan to see if they were on schedule as far as
agenda items.
Mr. Hunt stated that, except for the discussion on seat belt safety
and child restraints that was continued until the next meeting, the
Commission seemed to be on schedule with their work plan items.
e. Emergency Weather Warning System
Mr. Treuenfels stated that because of the recent tornado and storm,
he felt maybe the Commission should discuss this again and look into
the matter of whether the people of fridley were being advised as to
what the sirens mean and if they can distirtguish between the various
types of warnings that might be occurring,
Mr, Treuenfels stated he had a copy of a letter from Gerry Sikorski,
U,S. Congressman, dated Apri1 30, 1984, regerding the storms on April 26
and 27, Mr. Sikorski stated: "I am very concerned about the severe
damage and tragic loss of life which were caused by the storms on
Aprii 26 and 27, I had my staff visit the dama9ed sections of town and
report their firsi-hand observations....Some of you may have been
fortunate to escape any damage and yet I am sure you have reached out
to help your friends and neighbors....I am concerned about the tornado
siren malfunctioning in some cities, but I am glad to hear that the post-
storm emergency procedures and tfie recovery efforts are being conducted
efficie�tly. This certainly is a tribute to the non-profit and govern-
mental agencies involved."
Mr. Treuenfels stated that since this has reached the att�ntion.of a
member of Congress, he felt it was important for the Comnission to
discuss the warning sirens. He would like saneone from the Potice Dept.
to bring the Comnission up to date on the warning sirens.
HUININ RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING MAY 3 1984 PAGE 4
Mr. Treuenfels stated that as far as weather is cancerned, it has been
expressed by officiajs in Minneapolis over a pubZic radio station that
it should really be everyone's duty to look out the window from time to
time to take note of any omiROUS weather conditions that migfit be in
sight. They advised that when people do hear a siren, they are to use
the radio or television to keep advised of what is happening, He
stated they did not address other emergencies, such as chemical spills.
Mr. Treuenfels stated one point brought out by these officials that
they noted with sane cansternation was that many, many people, knowing
there was an emergency but not knowing what was going an, called tfie
emergency number 911, and tied up all the lines. He stated that if th
put an article in the newsletter, it would be good to mention the fact
that people shouid not dial 911 during severe weather.
Mr. Hunt stated there was an article in the Fridley 5un recently about
the sirens. He stated there is 9oing to be a federal grant. and the
City Council has approved monies for a matching grant. He stated the
City is looking at quite a nu�er of things regarding a new emergency
warning system. He stated he wouid request that Tim Turnbull of the
Police Dept. either attend a Comnission meeting or write a memo to the
Comnission updating them on the sirens.
f. Banfilt Tavern Progress Report
Mr. Goodspeed stated the Anoka County Historical Society also meets on
the first Thursday of the month at 7:30 p.m., so no one could attend
the Comnission meeting. He stated he had written a letter to the
Historical 5ociety stating that the Cortmission was interested in helpi
implement a l�cal program, consisting of volunteer help and materials,
to repair and staff the building. He stated the Historical Society
would be receiving this letter at their meeting that night.
NEW BUSINESS:
a. Election of Chairperson and Vice-Chairperson for 1984-85
Chairperson 600dspeed declared the nominations open for vice-chairperson
Mr. Treuenfets nominated Ar1ie Niemi for vice-chairperson.
Hearing no other naninations. Chairperson Goodspeed declared the
nominations closed.
MOTION BY MR. TREUENFEZS� SECONDED BY MR. MIN1'ON� TO CAST A UNANIHOUS
BALLOT ibR ARLZE NIEMZ £OR VICE-CHAIRPERSON OF THE HUMAN RESOURCES
CONMISSION FOR 1984-85,
UPON R VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAZRPERSON GOOASPEED DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING MAY 3 1984 PAGE 5
Chairperson Goodspeed declared the naninations open for chairperson.
�• Mr. Treuenfels nominated Bob Minton for chairperson,
Hearing no other naninations, Chairperson Goodspeed declared the
nominations closed.
�f0270N BY MS. NIEMI� SECONDED BY 1�2. 2REUENFELS� TO CAS2 A UNANIMOUS
BALLOT FOR BOB NINTON FOR CHAZRPSRSQN OF THE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMZSSION
iY�R 2984-85.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTSNC AYE� CIfRSRPSRSQN GDOIISPEED DECLARED THE
1yOTZON CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY,
MOTZON BY XR, TREUENFSLS� SEC017I�D SY lgt. MINTQN� TO EXFRESS THE
COMMZSSION'S T7fANKS TO TIlEZR OVfGOSNG CHRZRPERSQN� BRZAN GOOASPEED,
FOR TNE SXC6LLENT WORK SE AAS DONE AS CXAZRPERSON OF TNE AUMAN RESOURCES
COMMISSZON.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, NZNTON� NIEHI� TREUENFELS� VOTING AYE� GOODSPEED
ABSTAINING� CHAIRPERSON GOOASPEED DECLARED THE lIOTION CARRIED.
ADJOURNMENT:
lfOTIaV BY MR. TREUENFELS� SE4YNJDED BY IYR. MZNTbN, TO AA70URN THE MEETING, tIPON
A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE� CNAIRPERSON GOpASpEED DECLARED THE MAY 3, 2984�
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING AA70URNED AT 8:38 P,M.
Respectfully submitted.
. L
Ly Saba
Recording Secretary
CITY Of FRIDLEY
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION
MEETING
MAY 8, 1984
�
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Oquist called the May 8, 1984, Comnunity Development ommission
meeting to order at 7:40 p.m.
ROLt. CALL:
Members Present: LeRoy
Members Absent: Caro
Others Present:
, A1 Gabel, Ken Vos, Louis Schmidt
, Asst. Public Works Director
APPROVAL OF MARCH 13, 1984, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. CABEL� SECONDED BY MR. SCHMIDT, TO APPROVE THE MARCH Z3, 1984,
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN,
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAZRPERSON OQUZST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRZED UNRNZMOUSLY.
1. REVIEW Of REVISED WORK PLAN:
The Comnission members reviewed the revised 1984 work plan, making changes
and modifications.
Mr. Oquist stated that in the agenda packet there was a copy of a newspa�er
article entitled, "Citizens' budget plan helps define life in Coon Rapids".
He stated that, apparently, every few years several dozen Coon Rapids resi-
dents get together to form a"Budget Evaluation Comrnission". This comnission
prepares a report that becomes, in effect, a five-year plan for the prepara-
tion of annual budgets and a general guide to determining what it is going
to be like to live in Coon Rapids. The comnission's charge is to: review
each activity's level of service and determine whether it needs to be
increased or decreased; suggest areas of reductions or expansions of services
or new services and rank them; determine revenue sources; identify and
analyze alternate means of providing services, like using volunteers; and
examine staffing levels.
Mr. Oquist stated Ms. Schnabel, Planning Cortmission Chairwoman, had brought
this to his attention and thought it might be sort�ething the Comnunity Develop-
ment Comnission might want to consider. He asked what the Comnission memDers
thought of the Comnission being involved in sanething like this.
Dr. Vos stated he thought it would be very difficult for them to get involved
in the things that are charged to the Coon Rapids comnission. For example,
how could they examine staffing levels unless they had a knowledge of the
C017MUNITY DEVELOPMENT COhP1IS5I0N MEETING, MAY 8 1984 PAGE 2
job description and responsibilities. He would be very relu�ctant to get
into that, especially since the budget process in Fridley seems to be
� pretty well establi5hed. He did not know what kind of impact a cortmission
would have unless there was a crisis, and then that input is needed quickly.
Mr. Burch stated the Coon Rapids comnission reviews such things as how often
snow should be plowed and how fast a police officer should respond to a call,
So, if they decide they want to spend more money and have more police
officers, the police can resoond faster. If they buy more irucks and hire
roore men, the streets can be plowed quicker. Maybe the review shouia not be
in how it is budgeted, but what services are being provided and what changes
should be made. The comnission is not actually budgeting dollars; they are
making recomnendations for changes. He stated maybe the Community Development
Cormnission has some impact on the budget by the requests and policies they
support.
The Comnission members agreed they would not pursue getting involved in
any kind of budget evaluation of the City budget at this time.
Mr. Oquist stated he has expressed the concern before that sometimes he
feels the Comnission is meeting just for the sake of ineeting. He stated
there are excellent people on this Cortenission, and he would like to see them
find something they could really sink their teeth into,
Mr. Schmidt stated he felt the Coimnission was going in the right direction
when tliey met with members of the Chamber of Commerce, and Ms. Fassett was
meeting with them as a liaison between the Commission and the Chamber.
Mr. Oquist stated maybe working with the Chamber of Commerce was one way
of getting involved in some things.
Mr. Burch stated maybe the Commission can work with the Chamber of Comnerce
to help attract businesses to the community or help existing businesses
that want to relocate in the City.
Mr. Oquist stated that at one time Mr. Boardman had made the statement that
fridley, per capita, was one of the comnunities in the metropolitan area with
the most businesses. Maybe the Commission should look at that and see how
much they really want to promote businesses. He stated they should discuss
this further at the next meeting.
�Dr. Vos stated that since Ms. Fassett has expressed the desire to resign
from the Commission, maybe the Comnission should recomnend to the City
Council that any new commission member should be a member of the business
community.
Mr. Oquist stated that was a very good idea. They really need someone who
is more familiar with the business climate in Fridley or the business
community--someone involved in the management end of the business.
COIdMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MEETING MAY 8 1984 PAGE 3
MOTZON BY DR. V0.S � SSCONDED BY 1�42. GABEL � TO RECOMMEND TO TI1� CZTY COUNCZL
TAAT WHEN R NEW REPLACEMENT IS APPOZNTED TO THE COMMUNZTY DEVELOPMENT
• COMMZSSION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPOINT SOME�Jfi WHD IS PRESENTLY A MEMBER
O£ Tllfi BUSINfiSS Q�MMUNZTY ZNPOLVED IN THE MANAGEMENT OF A BUSINESS.
UPON A VOZCB VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE� CXAZRPERSON OQUZST DECLARED TXE MOTION
CRRRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Burch stated he would revise the work plan and have it retyped in final
form for the next meeting.
2. ELECTION OF OFFICERS:
Chairperson Oquist declared the nominations open for chairperson.
Dr. Vos nominated Mr. Oquist for chairperson.
Hearing no other nominations, Chairperson Oquist declared the nominations
closed.
MOTZON BY DR, VOS� SBCONDED BY MR. GABEL� TO CAST A UNANIMOUS BRLLOT FOR
MR. OpUZST FOR CHAIRPERSON OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION FOR
I984-85.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE, CHAZRPERSON OpUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIfiD UNANIMOUSLY.
Chairperson Oquist declared the nominations open for vice-chairperson.
Mr. Schmidt nominated A1 Gabel for vice-chairperson.
Hearing no other nominations, Chairperson Oquist declared the nominations
closed.
MOTION BY DR. VOS� SECONDED BY MR. SCXMIDT, TO CAST A UNANIMOUS BALIAT
FOR RL GABEL AS VICfi-CHAIRPERSON OF TNE COMMUNITY DEVEIAPMENT COMMISSZON
FUR 1984-85.
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOR7NG AYE� CHAZRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MR. GABEL, SECONDED BY DR. VOS� TO ADJOURN THE IYEET2NG. UPON A VOICE
WTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON RED TXE MAY 8� 3984� COMMUNITY
DfiV6LOPMENT COMMISSION ADJOURNE AT 8:51 P.M.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CXRIRPERSON OpUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Respectfully submitted,
, . ,�;. /�..
Lynn aba, R cording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 15, 1984
CALL 70 ORDER:
Chairperson Gabel called the May 15, 1984, Appeals Comnission meeting to order
at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Pat Gabel, Alex Barna, Donald Betzold
Members Absent: Jim Plemel, Jean Gerou
Others Present: Clyde Moravetz, City of Fridley
Lee Tech, 1651 - 61st Ave. N.E,
Margo Tech, 1651 - 61st Ave. N.E.
John Ahl, 373 Madle 5t., St. Paul
Dorothy Brannon, 1622 W. Innsbruck
R. Brannon, 1622 W. Innsbruck
Richard Green, 901 - 132 Lane, Blaine
Dorothy Green, 901 - 132 Lane, Blaine
F1ark Sampson, 271 Sylvan Lane
APPROVAL OF APRIL 24, 1984, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. BARNR� SECONDED BY MR. BETZOLD, TO APPROVE THE RPRIL 24� I984�
APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRpBRSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIfiD UNANIMOUSLY.
1. TABIED: REQUEST FOR VARIANCES PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 205 OF THE FRIDLEY
ue
, yui isc �ane rv.t., tsiatne,
MOTSON BY MR. BETZOLD, SECONDED BY MR. BARNA, TO REMOI�E THE ITEM FROM
TTiE TABLE.
UPA'J R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CSASRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Gabel asked the petitioner, Mr. Green, to explain his proposal.
Mr. Green stated his site is undersized and restricted on all four sides.
There is a car wash, a gas station, and two established roads. He stated he
is proposing to buiid a repair garage which is a franchise ca7led Precision
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 15, 1984 PAGE 2
Tune. They do only tune-up work--tune-ups, oil changes, and minor repairs.
There will be no disabled vehicles being worked on. There is—n.n_ �w tr k,
and there will be no overnight work where they would be storing cars.
If, for some reason, someone left a car in the morning and were unable to
pick it up in the evening, he would keep the car overnight, but would store
it in one of the 6ays. He stated a car is generally serviced in 3�nutes.
Mr. Barna asked how many bays the building would have.
Mr. Green stated there would three bays
Ms. Gabel asked about the hours of oper .
Mr. Green s-ated the hours would e 7 a.m. to 6 p.m, day - Friday; 9 a.m.
to 6 p.m, on Saturday; and close
Mr. Betzold asked if it was possible the building could be used for another
purpose in case Mr, Green decided in the future not to continue this business.
Mr. Green stated these buildings appear to be very adaptable to other uses,
However, there are restrictions. Dayton's owns the property, and they have
certain restrictions and have the right of determining the next use for the
building.
Mr. Betzold stated that at the last meeting, this request was tabled because
there apparently was a problem with the option to purchase. He asked
what the status on this was.
Mr. Green stated that another person had an option to buy and was going to
put in a fast food restaurant in this location. This person's option had
expired and Dayton-Hudson had sent him a letter stating they had considered
the option expired. Mr. Green stated he had been waiting for this site to
become available, and he imnediately went to City Hall and started the variance
process. About a week after Dayton-Hudson said they were free of the previous
purchase agreement and were sending Mr. Green one, they said their attorneys
had cited a statute in Minnesota where a notice has to be served by a sheriff
to break a purchase agreement. and then there was a 3D day waiting period.
Dayton-Hudson had not been aware of this. He stated Dayton-Hudson has since
given this person back his earnest money and the property is now free and
clear.
Mr. Barna asked about the facilities for waste oil storage and waste oit
� disposal.
(� a�� / Mr. Green stated the waste oil can be sold. There are baffles they will be put
'\ in to prevent the waste oil from going into the sewer system. That will be
installed and it is required by the City.
Ms. Gabel asked if there was anyone in the audience who would like to make
any corrments about this proposal.
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 15, 1984 PAGE 3
Mr. R. Brannon stated he owned the property adjacent to the property being
� discussed. He stated that, aesthetically, he would prefer not to have
a building that close to his property iine. A greater concern he had was
that the subsurface soils on his lot were very poor. They had to go down
17 ft, to remove a71 the organic material under his building. Dayton-
Hudson's soil borings indicate the lot in question has the same or worse
soil conditions. Therefore, if the building was built 10 ft. from the
property line and they have to go down 15-16 ft, to get rid of the organic
material, they would have to oversize the hole and by doing that, they
would be doing away with his boulevard, trees, and partial7y under his
parking lot and curb.
Mr. Brannon stated he had no problem with the variance. Ne would just
prefer to see the building moved a little farther to the south.
Mr. Barna stated Mr. Green would probably have to use pilings, the corru-
gated sYee] sheeting, to hold back the soil during construction.
Ms. Gabel stated Mr. 6reen worked with staff to come up with the placement
of the building, When staff works these things out, they put a lot of
work into putting the building on the most appropriate place on the site.
She would not be in favor of moving the bui}ding any closer to the street.
Mrs. Dorothy Brannon stated she was also a little concerned about what the
building will look like� particularly on the side that would face their
property. Would there be any landscaping to break up the blank wall look?
Ms. Gabel stated maybe the two parties could agree on sane type of land-
scaping and the Appeals Corrmis"sion could make it a stipulation of the
variance. —'
Mr. Brannon stated he just wanted to have some assurance that this construc-
tion would not damage his lot or boulevard,
MOTION BY MR. BARNA� SECONDED BY MR. BETZOLD� TO CIASE TNE PUBLIC HEARZNG.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOSING AYE, CNAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
NEARING CLOSED RT 8;08 P.M.
Mr. Barna asked if the construction phases would be overseen by normal
staff inspections.
Mr. Moravetz stated, yes, there would be preliminary footings inspection
and a series of various inspections during const�ruction,
Mr. Barna stated the basic concern would before the preliminary footings
during the excavation.
Mr. Moravetz stated this concern could be expressed as a stipulation of
the variance. The City is well aware of the soil conditions on this property.
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 15 1984 PAGE 4
2.
Mr. Betzold stated that considering the piece of property, if it is going
to be used for any business purpose, this business seemed appropriate.
He thought the concerns expressed by the neighbor should be taken very
seriously, possibly adding a stipulation about the landscaping and a stipu-
lation on the approval by the City engineers for soil retention.
Mr. Barna stated he agreed they should add those two stipulations. As far
as the usage of the lot, the building seemed to be placed in the best loca-
tion. It is also a good usa9e of the lot,
MOTION BY iIIt, BARNA, SECONDED BY MR. BETZOLD� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF REQUEST FOR VARSANCES PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 205 OF THE FRZDLEY
CITY CODE� TO REDUCE THE LOT SIZE FROM THE REQUIRED 35�000 SQ. FT. TO
22�17I SQ, FT.� TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED FRONT YARD SETBRCK FROM 80 FT, TO
66 FT, AND TO REDUCE THE RSQUIRED REAR YRRD SETBACK FROM 40 FT. TO 10 FT.�
TO ALIAF7 TNE CONSTRUCTION OF A REPAIR GARAGE Rt� BE LOCATED ON LOT 1� BLOCK 1�
TARGET ADDITION� THE SAME BESNG 765 53RD AVENUE N.E,� WITH TXE FOLLOWING
S2IPULATIONS:
1. SOIL Rc^TENTIOP7� BEFORE CONSTRUCTZON pLANS� BE MAAE
ON THE NORTX LOT LINE TO ENSURE SRFETY OF THE PROPERTY
TD THE NORTN.
2. THE PETZTIONER WORX WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE NORTH
AND THE CITY ON A LANDSCAPE PLAN SHAT WILL ENHANCE TNE
NORTHERLY SECTION OF TXE BUILDING,
UPON A VOSCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON GRBEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Gabel stated these variances would probably go as a package with the
special use permit request to the City Council. The specia7 use permit
request will be heard at the Planning Cortmission on May 23,
FRIDLEY CITY CdDE. TO
�
, "[/1 N.t. Sylvan Lane, Fridley,
MOTION BY MR. BETZOLD� SECONDED BY MR. BARNR� TO OPEN THE PUBLZC HEARING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE� CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN AT 8:14 P.M. �
Chairperson Gabel read the Administrative Staff Report:
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
6150 Kerry Lane N.E.
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENT:
Section 205.07.3D.2a requires a minimum setback of 10 feet between any
living area and side property lines.
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING MAY 15 1984 PA6E 5
Public purpose served by this requirement is to maintain a minimum of
20 feet between living areas in adjacent structures and 15 feet
between garages and living areas in adjacent structures to reduce
exposure to conflagration of fire. It is also to allow for aestheti-
cally pleasing open areas around residential structures.
B, STATED HARDSHIP:
"Pie shaped lot (narrow at front, wide at back) coupled with drop-off
point relatively near front of lot leaves narrow building area."
C. ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW:
This home is presently under construction; it was granted a front yard
variance on May 24, 1983. The present side yard width was to have 6een
5 feet to the garage and 10 feet to the living area. Now they would
like to utilize some of the space over the garage for living area.
Therefore, they need a variance for the living area closer than 10 feet
to the side lot line.
The house to the north is 11 to 12 feet off the comnon lot line.
The staff has no suggested stipulations if the Board moves to approve
the request.
Mr. Sampson stated the reason for the request was as stated in the staff
review. He showed the Commission members the plans for the house. He
stated the variance request does not change any of the construction as
already approved. They do not intend to put any windows in the addition.
Ms. Gabel stated she talked to the neighbors to the south of Mr. Sampson,
and they had no objections.
MOTION BY MR. BETZOLD� SECONDED BY MR. BARIJA� TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC NEARZNG.
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HSARING CLOSED AT 8:20 P,M.
Mr. Betzold stated this request does not chan9e anything about the lot or
the structure that is going onto the lot; it is more of an internal matter.
He did not see any reason to deny the variance request; however, he would
like to add the stipulation that there be no windows on the north side of
the addition.
Mr. Barna stated he agreed. He stated the petitioner is not changing the
structure at all, and he had no problem with the variance.
Ms. Gabel stated she felt they met the spirit of the code. There will still
be the 15 ft. between dwellings, and she would also like to see the stipula-
tion that there be no windows on the north side of the addition.
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETIN6, MAY 15 1984 PAGE 6
3.
MOTION BY MR. BETZOLD� SECONDED BY MR. BARNA� TO APPROVE T$fi REjjUEST FOR
A VARSANCE PURSUANT TO CXAPTER 205 OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE TD REDUCE
SIDE YARD SETBACK FROM 20 FT. TO 5 FT. TO ALLOW EXPANSION IN LIVING ARER
ABOVE THE ATTACHED GARAGE� IACATED ON LOT 5� BIACK 2� AEATXER HILLS THIRD
ADDITION� THE SAME BEING 6150 KERRY LANE N,E.� WITH THE STIPULATZON THAT
NO WINDC)WS BE ADDED TO THE PIORTH SIDE OF THE ADDITION.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHRIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED TXE MOTION
CARRZED UNANZMOUSLY.
MOTION BY MR. BETZOLD� SECONDED BY MR. BARNA, TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HERRING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HERRING OPEN AT 8:23 P,M.
Chairperson Gabel read the Administrative Staff Report:
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
1651 - 61st Avenue N,E.
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENT;
Section 205.07.3D,2a requires a minimum setback of 10 feet between
any living area and side property lines.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to maintain a minimum of
20 feet between living areas in adjacent structures and 15 feet between
garages and living area,s in adjacent structures to reduce exposure to
conflagration of fire. It is also to allow for aesthetically pleasing
open areas around residential structures.
6. STATED HARDSHIP:
"Additional living and bedroom space required for increase in family
size plus additional storage requirements. Economic considerations
suggest addition to the existing garage to accomnodate the increased
living needs."
C. ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW:
The neighbor to the west, 1641 - 61st Avenue, was granted a variance
in 1982 to place living area 5 feet off the comnon lot line. The
variance was granted with the stipulation that no windows be placed
in the east wall of the addition.
APPEALS COITIISSION MEETING, MAY 15, 1984 PAGE 7
If this variance is granted, the two living areas would be 10 feet
apart. Therefore, if the Board approves this request, we suggest
the Board recommend no windows be placed in the west wall of the
addition.
Mr. John Ahl, architect for the petitioners, stated what they plan to do
is bui7d a loft/library over the back portion of the garage and then a
master bedroom extending past that. They do not plan on putting any
windows on the west side and are angling the addition so they do not have
the long corridor and ti9ht space.
Mrs. Margo Tech stated they had letters from all the neighbors who border
their lot, as well as across the street to the front, stating they do not
object to this addition.
MOTION BY 1�2. BARNR� SECONDED BY Mft. BETZOLD� TO RECEZVE INTO THE RECORD
THE LETTERS FROM SIX NEIGHBORS STATING NO OBJECTION TO THE ADDZTION.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
Ms. Gabel stated the stated hardship seemed a little vague, and maybe the
petitioner could explain the hardship in a little more detail.
Mr. Lee Tech stated that right now the whole house is finished, and they
do not have any storage area, They are using two rooms for storage at the
present time, There are three of them living in the home and there is the
possibility of his mother and father moving in with them.
MOTION BY MR. BARNA� SECONDED BY 1�ff2. BETZOLD� 2'O CIASE THE PUBLIC HEARZNG.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING RYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECZARED THE PUBLIC
HERRZNG CLOSED AT 8:45 P.M.
Mr. Barna stated that presently there is 10 ft, between the two structures
by the variance granted previously to the property owners at 1641 - 61st
Ave. N.E. He thought at that time the Appeals Commission considered the
hazard of living area adjacent to garage, and now they are talking about
living area adjacent to living area. He really felt living area adjacent
to living area was less hazardous than living area adjacent to garage. The
two neighbors are the ones that will have to live with the 10 ft. between
their two homes. As far as fire fighting, there will be as much room after
construction as there is now. He did not think livin9 area caused that much
more chance of a fire over a garage and,properly constructed, the living area
without windows should have less chance of conflagration transfer between
the two structures. Basically, the code is not being varied any more than
it is presently being varied. He preferred the well-thought out, well-
designed addition rather than the regular box on the back of a box-type
addition.
Mr. Betzold stated that as far as the considerations about living areas
and garage areas, he was not sure he could agree with that because it is
not really the Canmission's function to decide which parts of the code they
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 15, 1984 PAGE 8
like or don't like. He stated he could go alo�g with the variance in this
particular case just the way it has been utilized, with the stipulation that
there be no windows on the west wall. He felt that was very important.
He was also concerned, not so much in this particular situation, about
more and more variances getting closer to the property line, and it is
starting to set kind of a bad precedent. He hoped they were not violating
the very reasons why the code was established. He appreciated what the
petitioners were trying to do and why they were trying to do it, but he
was not quite so sure that was what the code was intended to do.
Ms. Gabel stated Mr. Betzold's point was well taken. However, she felt that
when the neighbors do not object and it seems to be a livable situation
within the neighborhood, the Commission should go along with it.
MOTION BY MR, BRRNA� SECONDED BY MR. BETZOLD� TO AP°ROVE REQUEST FOR
VARIANCE PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 205 OF TNE FRIDLEY CITY CODE 2�0 REDUCE THE
REQUSRED SIDE YARD FOR LZVING AREA FROM 10 FT, TO 5 FT. TO ALZAW THE
CQVSSRUCTION OF AN ADDITION ON LOT 28, BLOCK 3, BRIARDALE ADDITION� THE
SAME BEING 165I - 62ST AVENUE N,E.� WITH THE STIPULATZON TXAT THERE BE NO
OPENINGS OR WINDOWS 2N THE WEST WALL.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOT2NG AYE� CHAIRPERSON GRBEL DECLARED 2HE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
AUJOURNN�fNT:
MOTION BY MR. BARNA, SECONDED BY MR. BETZOLD� TO RDJOUPIJ THE MEETING. UPON A
VOICE VOTE, ALL [�OTING RYE, CHRIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MAY 15, 2984, APPSALS
COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:45 P,M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Lynnp Saba
Recording Secretary
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CI7Y Of FRIDLEY
� PLANNING COMMISSION MEETIN6, MAY 23, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairwoman Schnabel ca7led the May 23, 1984, Planning Commission meeting to
order at 7:32 p,m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Oquist, Ms. Gabel, Mr. Nielson,
Mr. Kondrick, Mr. Saba
Mernbers Absent: Mr. Minton
Others Present: Jim Robinson, Planning Specialist
6ordon Christenson, Redeemer Lutheran Church
Greg Shuster, Station 19 Architects
Richard Green, 90T 132nd Lane N.E., 8laine
John Hitchcock, 905 97tYi Lane N.E., Blaine
Annette Poeschel, 1447 73rd Ave. M.E.
Gladys Sorum, 411 Mississippi St. N.E.
Brenda & Clinton Tibbetts, 421 Mississippi St. N.E,
Nels Johnson, 6456 Riverview Terrace
APPROVAL OF MAY 4 1984, PLANNING CQrAMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MIZ. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO APPROVE THE MAY 9� 5984,
planning commission minutes.
Mr. Saba stated that on page 76, paragraph 5, last line, "CR-l" should be
changed to "R-3".
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRFJOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MIi7UTES
APPROVED AS AMEND&D.
Ms. Schnabel stated that since one of the Planning Commission members had to
leave the meeting early and since all the member commission had selected their
officers for 1984-85, the Planning Corrm�ission should hold their election now
for vice-chairperson.
l. ELECTION OF UICE GHAIRpERSON OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR 1984=85:
Chairwoman Schnabel declared the nominations open for vice-chairperson.
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO NOMINATE LEROY OQUIST
FOR VICE-CHAIRPERSON,
Hearing no other nominations, Chairwoman Schnabel dec7ared the
nominations closed.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 23, 1984 PAGE 2
MOTION BY MS. GABEL, SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO CAST A UNANIMOUS BALIAT FOR
LEROY OjJUSST FOR VICE-CHRIRPERSON OF THE PLI�NNING COMMISSION FOR .2984-85.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAZRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE 140TION
CAARIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. PUBLIC HEARING: GONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SP #84-08
REDEEMER LUTHERAN CHURCH: Per Section 205.07,1,3, B, to allow the
a ition o a new e owship hall and remodeling for the handicapped,
on lot 2, 81ock 6, Edgewater Gardens, the same being 61 Mississippi Way N.E,
MOTZON BY MR. OQUIST, SECONDED BY MR. KONDRZCK, TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING
ON SP H84-08 BY REDEEMER LUTHERAN CHURCH.
UPON A VOSCE VOTE� ALL VOTTNG AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Robinson stated Redeemer Lutheran Church was located on Mississippi
just east of Hickory St. It was a combination church and schoo7. It was
surrounded by R-1 properties except for a city park on the east. He stated
Redeemer Lutheran Church was proposing a multi-use facility which would be
added on to the west of the existing facility. It would invoive the removal
of a portion of the existing structure. It also called for the removal of
approximately 16 parking stal7s.
Mr. Robinson stated Staff had the following concerns:
i. There be an approved landscape plan (Redeemer Lutheran Church has
agreed to do landscaping.)
2. The finish of the new building be compatible with the existing building
(which is brick} and in harmony with the residentia7 character of the
neighborhood.
3. Special use permit subject to approval of Rice Creek Watershed District
and City Engineering requirements (Redeemer Lutheran Church is in the
process of getting Rice Creek Watershed District approval.)
4. Assurance that programming of activities will not create ad�ed parking
demands which would cause an on-street parking problem. (He believed
this problem had been rectified by a change in programning)
Mr. Robinson stated Redeemer Lutheran Church has 259 existing parking stalls
and they will be removing 16 stalls. By city code, they would require
approx. 200 stalls. So, by code, Redeemer Lutheran Church has an abundance
of parking.
Mr, Greg Shuster, Station 19 Architects, stated he has been working with
Redeemer Lutheran Church on this project for severa7 years. He stated
Mr. Robinson had sumned up the project �rery well. He stated the church
started out with a wood-frame chapel. A sub-grade, partially below grade
addition, was added on to the original chapel in 1952. That was followed
PLANNIN6 COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 23 1984 PAGE 3
by a sanctuary addition in 1959 and finally a two-story education addition
in 1963. Presently, there are four levels within the existing structure.
There is an upper and lower level through the sanctuary, and the rest of
the facility has an upper and lower level which matches up with the
education area. He stated the existing fellowship hal] is on the lower
level.
Mr. Shuster stated they plan to actually demolish a majority of the
existing structure and add somewhat to the square footage of that parti-
cular part of the facility. Along with that, there is some adjacent
existing kitchen area they hope to update and the addition of some bathrooms
and showers off the gymnasium/fellowship hall.
Mr. Shuster stated they are also hoping to add some accessibi7ity in terms
of a handicapped multi-level lift that would make it possible to move from
ti�e four different levels. Right now, that is limited by the present state
code which allows a lift to only travel a maximum of 54". The State is
presently 7ooking at adopting a new ANSII code ihat would allow the travel
to be increased up to 12 ft. That may not occur in time for this project,
but they will at least be able to provide some accessibility down to the
fellowship ha17 within the present code.
Mr. Shuster stated the church presently has a nice 7andscaping type of buffer
with re7atively ]arge mature trees, especially along Hickory St, and some
nice,newly planted trees a7ong the north side. The one thing the church
really had not done is some landscaping pertaining more to the church than
to the neighbors. The present project proposes to create a green space along
the north side of the existing facility and the interior courtyard.
Mr, Shuster stated the church presently_has a_f�l_lg�ship hail at the_lo�er _
_ .
level below the existing sanctuary. It is really a displacement of that with
an area that ia going to be more muTti-use, and that use is not intended for
any purpose such as adding to sanctuary space. The present sanctuary is very
adequate at this time.
Mr. Kondrick stated one of Staff's concerns was that the finish of the new
building be compatib7a with the existing building. What plans has the
church made to do that?
Mr. Gordon Christenson, ]84 Pearson Way N,E., stated he was Co-chairman of
the Building Committee and a member of the church. He was also a land sur-
veyor. He stated they have looked at all types of different materials, but
because of budget problems and constraints, they are presently looking at a
precast concrete exterior. They are 7ooking at the possibi7ity of changing
that to brick, but he could not make a commitment at this time. 7hey would
like to go with brick if it is economically feasible.
Ms. Gabel asked if Mr. Christenson would tell why the church fee7s they need
this addition,
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 23, 19$4 PAGE 4
Mr. Christenson stated the existing facility was bui]t in 1952, and he
thought possibly that structure was built with the intention of eventually
building on a second story. He stated they have been planning
for years to do sanething about this structure. It is kind of rundown,
and they have problems with the roof, It is very limited in size as to
what it can be used for. It has been called the youth room for a number
of years. He stated they have been in the planning process since 1978.
Their present fellowship hall below the sanctuary is restricted in size
for iarger group gatherings. By taking care of the problem of the 1952
structure, they can make a space that is much more usable. They plan to
use the addition as a multi-use facility--a fellowship hall/gymnasium.
At the same time, they are adding some ctassrooms and making the building
barrier-free.
Ms. Schnabel asked about the fenced-in area at the back of the building
where there were some school buses and sane other equipment. Where will
all that be going?
Mr. Christenson stated there are two school buses, a traiTer, and a small
uti7ity shed. They are making no provisions in the project to have that
equipment on site. In sane manner when construction starts, they wiTl make
provisions off-site for those buses and equipment.
Mr. Christenson stated the church did invite all the neighbors to the church
on Monday night to show them the plans and discuss the proposed project.
He stated only one person came. He stated he wanted the Commission members
to know that the church did make this effort and basicaTly got no response
from the neigbborhood.
�s. Schnabel stated she would have a problem with making a strict regulation
on the exterior of the building, especially when cost factors are involved,
She thought the Planning Cortmission's major concern was that the exterior
be compatible with the existing facility and the neighborhood.
The Planning Commission members agreed with Ms. Schnabel.
Ms, Schnabel stated she was glad to see that the church would be putting in
some green space on the north side of the church,
MOTION BY MS, GABEL� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARZNG
ON SP k84-08 BY REbEfiMER LUTHERAN CHURCH,
UPON A VDICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCXNABEL DECLARED TXE
PUBLSC HERRTNG CLQSED AT 8:06 P.M.
PLANNI�dG COMMISSION MEETIN6 MAY 23 1984 PAGE 5
MO220N BY MR. SABA, SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST, TO RECOMMEb'D TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT� SP #84-08, BY REDEEA4ER
LUTHERAN CHURCH, PER SECT76N 205.07.Z, 3, (B), TO ALLOW THE ADDITION OF A
NEW FELIAWSHIp HALL AND RE'MODELING FOR THE HANDICAPPED, ON IAT 2, BIACK 6,
EDGEWATER GARDENS, THE SAME BEING 6.Z MISSISSSPPI WAY N.E., WITH TNE
FOLIAWING STIPULATIONS:
1. THERE BE AN APPROVED LANASCAPE PLAN.
2. THE FINISH OF NEW BUILDING SHOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH
. THE EXISTING BUILDING AND TN HARAfONY WITH THE RE52DENTIAL
� CHARACT&R OF THE NESGHBORHOOD.
3. SPECIAL USE PERMIT BE SUBJECT TO APPROVAL OF TNE RICE CREEK
WAT&RSHED DSSTRICT AND CITY ENGINEERING REQUIREMENTS.
UPON R VOICE UOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIR470MAN SCHNABEL DECL[7RED THE MOTZON
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
Ms. Schi�abel stated this item would go to City Council on June 4.
2. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATIQN OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT, P.S, #84-04, PLAZA
CENTER ADDIT ON, B RI Y SING EDE R : Being a
replat of Blocks 1, 2, 3, 4 an 5, Ree s A dition to Fri 7ey Park, including
all vacated streets and alleys, and that part of the West half of the
Northeast Ha7f of the 5outhwest Quarter of Section 74, lying between Lot 2
and 3, B7ock l, and 7ying Northerly of said Biock 2, which includes all of
the property between University Avenue and 5th 5treet, South of Mississippi
Street, down to, 6ut not including the Fridley Bank Property.
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICX, SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST, TO 0@EN THE PUBLIC HEARING
ON PS #84-04� PLAZA CENTER ADDITZON� BY FRZDLEH HOUSING & REDEVEIAPMENT
AUTHORITY,
UPON A I/OICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAZRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN AT 8:30 P.M.
Mr. Robinson stated this was basically housekeeping for the HRA. The plat
would take in al7 the property from the northerly property line of the
Fridley State Bank to Mississippi St, and bounded by University Ave. on the
west and 5th St. on the east. The new plat ailowed for the Fridley P]aza
Clinic, future expansion of the clinic, new alignment of the roadway,the
plaza, the office building, City Hall, future development of Target, as well
as future expansion of Target, and possible future joint parking arrangements
with Target.
Ms. Gladys Sorum, 41] Mississippi St., stated she lived across from the
Fridley Library, She stated this was a very big parking lot to look at,
and there wi71 be a lot of additional traffic. Will there be any kind of
barrier along Mississippi St.?
Mr. Robinson stated there will be 7arge trees along Mississippi St „ a bike-
way/walkway easement, and then about 20-25 ft. of bermed green space. The
parking lot will a7so be sunk d�wn a 7ittle to soften the visual impact of
the parking lot from the street and the neighborhood.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MAY 23 1984 PAGE 6
Mr. Saba stated it was his understanding also that there will be an overlap
of shifts at Target, so all the traffic will not be coming in and going out
of the parking lot at the same time.
Ms. Brenda Tibbetts, 421 Mississippi St., stated she would like to express
her concern about the traffic on Mississippi. She stated that recently a
child was hit on 5th St, coming out onto Mississippi. 5he stated tfiat with
all this new development, she wou7d like to see some consideration given
for the heavy traffic at Mississippi & 5th St., possib7y with a stop sign
at Mississippi St. and 5th St.
Mr. Saba stated this was a very valid concern, especialTy with the bikeway/
walkway a]ong the parking lot and children riding their bikes and crossing
Mississippi to get to the new community park.
Mr. Robinson stated a traffic study is being made of this area. He stated
he would bring up this traffic concern so it is taken into consideration
as part of the study.
MOTSON BY MR. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARiNG
ON PS #84-04, PLAZA CENTER ADDIT20N, BY PRIDLEY HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT
AUTHORITY,
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHASRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLziRED SHE PUBLIC
HEARING CLOSED AT 8:25 P,M.
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR. �UIST, TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF CONSIDSRATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLPT� P.S. #84-04, PLAZA CENTER
ADDITION, BY FRSDLEY HOUSINC, & REbEVELOPMENT AUTHORISY, BEING A REPLAT OF
BLOCKS I, 2, 3, 4 AND 5, REE'S ADDITION TO FRIDLEY PARK, INCLUDING ALL
VACATED S7'REETS AND ALLEYS� AND THAT PART OF THE WEST HALF OF THE NORTXEAST
HALF OF THE SOUTHWEST (jUARTER OF SECTSON ,Z4, LYING BETWEEN LOT 2 AND 3,
BLOCX 1, AND LYING NORTHERLY OF SAID BLOCK Z� WHICH INCLUDES ALL OF THE
PROPERTY BETWEEN UNIVERSITY AVENUE AND STH STREET� SOUTH OF MI55ISSIPPI
STREET� DOWN TO� BUT NOT INCLUDING THE FRIDLEY BAi'7K PROPERTY,
UPON A VOICE VOT&, ALL vOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLAkED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. .
3. PUBLIG HEARING: CONSI
f:]7
n��nr+rcu c, urcttiv: rer �ecLion zub, i5, i, 3, u, or the Fridley City Code,
to a ow a repair garage on Lot 1, Block 1, Target Addition, the same
being 765 53rd Avenue N.E. (See Appeals minutes of 5/15 for variance)
MOTSON BY MR. OQUIST� SECONDED BY 192. KONDRICX� Tp OPEN THE PUBLIC XEARSNG
ON SP #84-09, BY RICHARD E, GREEN. �
UPON R UOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECiARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN AT 8:27 P.M.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 23, 7984 __ PAGE 7
Mr. Robinson stated this proposal was for a repair garage on property
presently owned by Dayton-Hudson, The property was zoned C-3; and because
this was for a repair garage, it required a special use permit. A71 the
surrounding zoning was commercial. He stated that on May 75th, the
Appeals Cortmission approved variances to reduce the lot size from 35,000
sq, ft, to 22,171 sq, ft., to reduce the required front yard setback from
80 ft. to 66 ft., and to reduce the required rear yard setback from 40 ft.
to 10 ft,
Mr. Robinson stated Staff had the following concerns:
l. An approved landscape plan.
2. A manageable slope must be left on the east side of the lot not
greater than 3:1.
3. If bad soils are found, petitioner must provide soil alteration
plan which includes protection of car wash property,
4. Petitioner must agree to have no outside storage of cars or parts
at any time.
5. Require that operation manage their used oil or other hazardous
waste through appropriate means.
6, An approved drainage plan be required for building permit,
Mr, Oquist stated there was a former Precision Tune on Silver Lake Road.
It is now just a garage, and there are a lot of cars sitting around all the
time. If this special use permit is granted to Precision Tune, and for
some reason, the use changes to a plain repair garage, what happens to the
special use permit2 Would the special use permit be issued to the owner
and if, for some reason, Qrecision Tune moved, the special use permit
wou7d then expire?
Mr, Robinson stated that was correct.
The petitioner, Mr, Green, stated there was another guarantee that this would
not happen. He stated Target reserues the right to approve any future
business owner.
Mr, Green stated the on]y change to this request was they may not have the
drive-through bay as previous]y planned because of energy considerations,
Mr. Oquist stated that without the drive-through bay, they may not have
ar.y troUble with the slope on the east side.
Ms. Schnabel asked about the poor soi7 conditions.
Mr. Green stated they have not had any soil tests taken, but they are
reasonably certain the soil is quite poor. If necessary, they will go
with pilings. The excavating companies he has ta]ked to fee] they can
excavate without endangering the car wash property,
Ms. Schnabel stated she thought the number of parking stalls was a little
excessive for just three bays and the rapid repair turnover.
PLANNIN6 COMMISSION MEETING MAY 23 1984 PAGE 8
MOTION BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY PII2. OQUSST� TO CLOSE TNE PUBLIC XEARING
ON SP NB4-09 BY RZC1iARD E. GREEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE, CXRIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARSNG CL0.SED AT 8:42 P.M.
MOTION BY 1�2. KONDRICK� SECANDED BY MR. SABR, TO RECOMMEND TO CITY CS�UNCIL
APPROVAL OF CONSIDERATION OF A SPECZAL USE P&RMZT� SP $89-09� BY
RSCHARD E, GREEN� PER SECfIC1V 205.15.1� 3� D. OF THE FRSDLEY CITY CODE, TO
nr.r.(7W A REPAIR GARAGE ON LOT L, BLOCK 1� TARGET ADDITION, TNE SAME BEING
765 53RD A[�ENUE N.E.� WZ2'H THE FOLLOWING STIPULATZQNS:
3. TXERE BE AN APPROVED LANDSCAPE PLRN.
2. A MANAGERBLE SLOPE MUST BE LEFT ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE LOT NO
GREATER TNAN 3:5.
3, SF BAD SOZ2S ARE FOUND� PESZTIONER MUST PROVIDE SOIL ALTERATION
PLAN WHZCH INCLUDES PROTECTION OF CAR WASH PROPERTY.
4. PETITIONER MUST AGREE TO HAt�E NO OUTSFDE STORAGE OF CARS OR
PARTS.RT ANY TIME.
5. ItEQU2RE THAT OPERATION MANAGE THEIR USED OIL OR OTHER XAZARDOUS
WASTE THROUGH APPId�PRIR� MEANS.
6. AN RPPROVED DRAZHAGE PLAN BE REQUIRED iCIR BUSLDING PERMIT.
7. SPECIAL USE PEBNIT �� IA5'[7^D TO THL PP.OPERTY OWNLRt APD NO'l
BE TRANFERRBLE WITHOUT APPROVAL OF THE CITY Ofi FRIDLEY.
UPON A VOICE I�OTE� RLL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN�SCHNABEL DECLARED TNE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMO(ISLY,
Ms. Schr�abel stated the special use permit request, along with the variances,
would go to City Council on June 4,
(Mr. Oquist ]eft the meeting at 8:45 P,M,}
4. LOT SPLIT REQUEST: L.S. #84-05, BY JOHN HITCNCOCK: Split off the Southerly
ee$�o�Lot�l , Second Revi's3�Cu�ditor�s Sub�ivision No. 21, the same
.
being 6530 Oakley Drive N.E.
Mr, Robinson stated the 7ot in question is zoned R-1, located on the corner
of Oakley and Mississippi St. The present 7ot is 18,811 sq. ft. The
petitioner is proposing to spiit off the southerly 86 ft. to create a new
R-1 loY. Both new lots would be over the 9,000 sq. ft. needed.
Mr. Robinson stated 5taff would recortmend the foliowing stipulations if
this lot split was approved:
l. The following variances for the existing structure be approved with
the lot split: front yard - from 35 ft, to 25 ft,
rear yard - from 25 ft, to 2] ft.
2. Require owner's signature on the lot split request
3. Park fee on one new lot of $750
4. Existing home to change address from Mississippi St. to Oak7ey St.
5. Lot split be recorded at the County, if approved.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 23 1984 PAGE 4
Ms. Schnabel stated the Planning Commission had a problem with the owner
not petitioning for the lot split.
The petitioner, Mr. John Nitchcock, stated he is under contract with the
existing property owner to buy the loi. Ne stated he was sure this had
happened with the northerly lot that was split off some time ago. At that
time, the petitioner requested the ]ot split and was granted the lot split.
Mr. Hitchcock stated there was a change in the lot split request. The
86 ft. shou]d be changed to 84 ft.
Ms. Schnabel asked Mr. Hitchcock if he had talked to any of the neighbors
in the area across Oakley St, or west of the lot about the visual impact
of putting a structure in front because it would be set further ahead of
any other house in the irrrnediate area.
Mr. Hitchcock stated he has not taiked to the neighbors across Oakley. The
property owner to the west is the father of the person he is buying the lot
from, and he was the only property owner he had talked to.
Mr, Hitchcock stated when he discussed this with Bill Deblon, Mr. Deblon
fe7t that since th9s house faced Oakley, it was applicabie to the houses on
�akley.
Ms. Schnabel stated she still had some problems with that house setting so
far forward. even though it was an Oakley St. house, rather than a Mississippi
St. house.
Ms. Gabel stated she had a problem with the variances being approved with
the lot sp7it. She did not think this had ever been done before with a lot
spiit, Since it was a housekeeping type of thing, that might be the reason
for it; but by not following the variance procedure, it e]iminated the public
hearing process whereby the neighbors wouid be notified of what was happening.
Ms. Schna6el stated she saw the fo7lowing prob]ems with this lot split
request:
l. The variance situation--granting the variances with ihe lot split.
2. Not having the actual owner on record with the lot split request.
3. The situation of the setback impact on Mississippi St. This
should be checked out with respect to the setback requirements in
the Zoning Ordinance or a legal opinion. Wouid this be setting a
precedent?
Ms. Schnabel sta:ed she realized the petitioner was anxious to move on
this, but she thought possibly the Planning Commission should table this
request until their June 6th meeting when these problems can be clarified.
Mr. Kondrick stated he agreed that this request should be tabled until these
questions are answered.
PLANNING GOMMISSIrN MEETING, MAY 23 1984 PAGE 10
Mr, Hitchcock stated he strongly objected to this, because of the fact that
he had made himself available to do everything the Staff had requested.
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� S&CONDED BY MS, GABEL� TD TABLE LOT SPLIT REQUEST�
L,S.� #84-05, BY JOHN HITCHCOCK, TO SPLIT OFF THE SOUTHERLY 84 FT. DF LO2
8H, SECOND REVISED AUDITOR�S SUBDIVISION NO. 2Z� THE SAME BEZNG 6530 OAKLEY
DRIVE N.E „ UNSIL THE FOLLOWING CONCERNS CAN BE CLARIFIED:
1. THE VARZANCE SITUATION WITH REGARD TO GRANTING VARIANCES WITX
THE LOT 5PLIT.
2. NOT HAVING THE ACTUAL OWNER ON RECORD WITH THE IAT SPLIT REQUEST.
3, THE SETBACK IMPACT ON MISSISSIPPI ST,
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DfiCLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANSMOUSLY,
5. LOT SPLIT
ETTE POESCHEL: Split the South
eet except t e ort an excep es .75 feet of South Half
of Lot 31, subject to easement over South 30 feet) into two parcels to allow
zero lot line for a double bungalow, the same being 1571-1573 73rd Avenue N.E.
Mr. Robinson stated this property was located to the north of 73rd Ave.
and east of Hayes St. The property is zoned R-3. 7he property is surrounded
by a mixture of R-1 and heavy industriaT to the south. The existing lot ts
12,822 sq. ft. The petitioner is proposing to build a double bungalow on
the two split parcels with zero Tot iine. This meets all the setback require-
ments. He stated Staff would recommend the following stioulations:
1. Signed zero lot line covenant (The City provides a standard agreement
to the owners to promote good maintenance.)
2. Park fee of $750 on one new lot
3. Lot split be recorded with the County.
Ms, Scl�nabel asked if this double bungalow would be a one-owner building or
would each half be sold off?
The petitioner, Ms. Annette Poeschel, stated the bunga]ow would have two
different owners. She stated she owns the oroperty now. She wi77 be the
owner of one half, and her partner will buy the other half.
MOTZON BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY l�42. NIEZSON� TO SECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF LOT SPLTT REQUEST� L.S. �84-06� TO SPLIT THE SOUTH 238.Z0 FEET
(EXCEPT SHE NORSH I/2 AND EXCEPT WE5T 92,�5 FEET OF SOUTH HALF OF LOT 3Z�
SU.BJECT TO EASEMENT OVER SOUTH 30 FEETJ INTO TWO PARCELS TO ALLOW ZERO LOT
LINE FOR A DOUBLE BUNGALOGI, THE SAME BEING 157I-1573 73RD AVENUE N.E.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALI. VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Schnabel stated this ite:e would go to City Council on June 4.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 23, 1984 PAGE 11
6. REGEIVE MAY 3 1984 HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY hIIZ. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY M5. GABEL, TD RECEIVE THE MAY 3, 1984,
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MIN�ES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED 2HE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
7. RECEIVE MAY 8 1984 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. SABA, SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK� TO RECEIVE THE MAY 8� Z984�
COMMUNITP DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL.DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8. RECEIVE MAY 15, 1984, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS. GABEL, SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK� TO RECEIVE THE MAY 15, I984,
APPEAL5 COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CfiAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TXE MOTION
CARRTED UNANSMOUSLY,
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MR. NIELSON, TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. UPON
A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MAY 23, 1984,
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AAJOURNED AT 9:45 P.M.
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