PL 11/28/1984 - 6844PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
City of fridley
AGENUA
WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 28, 1984
APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: OCTOBER 17, 1984
1. PUBLIC HEARING: REOUEST
UIV11T MtU1l.HL I.tIVItK, tSY JUHN HH1Nt�: Y2P JCCt10n ZOb.U/.l� 3,
B, of the Fridley City Code, to allow the construction of an
addition to Unity Nospital, approximately 43,040 square feet,
located on Parcel 600, in the North Half of Section ll, the
same being 550 Osborne Road N.E.
7:30 P.M.
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13 - 20
2. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL U5E PERMIT� SP #84-23, 21 - 27
CNAMPION AUTO, BY DOUGLAS KRASKA: Per Section 205.15.1,3, D,
of the Fridley City Code to allow a repair qarage in conjuction
with a retail business on Lot 18, Block 5, Rice Creek Plaza
So�th Addition, the same being 6528 University Avenue N.E. in
Holly Center.
3. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SP #84-24, 2II - 40
BY ROBERT SCHROER: Per Section 214,07, 1, of the Fridley Sign
Ordinance, to allow an automatic changeable sign on Lot 1, Block
1, East Ranch Estates, the same being Bob's Produce Ranch at
7620 University Avenue N.E.
4. VACATION REQUEST: SAV #84-06, BY PATRICK ANd MARY KUTA: Vacate A1 - 44
67th Avenue N.E. adjacents to Lots 29 and 30, Block 2, Oak
Grove Addition, along with vacated 1/2 alley, to be used for
open area at 6689 Anoka Street N.E.
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6. RECEIUE HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES: OCTOBER
11, 1984
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9. RECEIVE APPEALS GOMMISSION MINUTES: OCTOBfR 23> 1984
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Planning Commission Meeting
Wednesday, November 28, 1984
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10. RECEIVE ENERGY GOMMISSION MINUTES: OCTOBER 23, 1984 ORCHID
11. RECEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: NOVEMBER 13, 1984 YELLOW
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See Motion on Page 4 and 6 for City Council Action
13. OTHER BUSINESS:
ADJOURNMENT:
SALMON
CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMFIISSION MEETING, �CTOBER 17, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairwoman Schnabel called the October 17, 1984, Planning Conmission meeting to
order at 7:32 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present : Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Oquist, Mr, Saba, Ms. Gabel, Mr. Minton,
Mr. Nielsen, Mr. Kondrick
Members Absent: None
Others Present: Jim Robinson, Planning Coordinator
Louis Rosburg, 2407 - 139th Ave. N,W „ Anoka
Randy Grohnke, 7340 Niagara Lane No., Haple Grove
Bruce Hay, 39 North Oaks Rd., St. Paul
Virgil Werner, 6341 Madison St. N.E.
Carole Lee Werner, 6341 Madison St. N.E.
D�ennis Munson, 19323 Linnet St. N.W., Cedar
�iary Gabrelcik, 5923 - 3rd St. N.E,
Coni Gunnufson, 5917 - 3rd St. N.E.
Joe Turner, 3570 Deephaven Ave., Deephaven
Jack Maxwell, 2931 Partridge Rd., Roseville
APPROUAL OF OC�"OBER 3, 1984, PLANNING COr4MISSIDN MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR, XONDRICK� SECONDSD BY MR. MINTON� TO APPROVE TNE OCT. 3, 19F4,
PLANNING COM47SSION MZNUTES:
Ms. Schnabel stated that on page 6, first paragraph, "Mr. Olga Pragal" should
be "Mrs. Olga Pragal".
UPON A VDICE "OTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHASRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MINUTES
APPROVED AS AlENDED.
1. PUBLIC HE1_RING: CONSIDERATION OF A REOUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
�r ��sw-iy, KUKI NWryUYAI;lUK1fVG: PE1' Section Z05.W.1, C, 4, of the Fridley
City Code, to allow a jacent R-3(general multiple dwelling) property to be
used for a parking lot for a business in M-1 zoning (light industrial),
located on the West 375 feet of Lot 2, Auditor's Subdivision No. 89, the
same 6eing 7191 Higf�way #65 N.E.
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MS. GRBEL, TO OPEN THE plIBLIC HEARING
ON SP N84-29 BY KURT MANUFACTURZNG.
UPON A VOSCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRWOMRN SCXNABEL DECLARED PXE PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN AT 7:34 P.M,
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OCTOBER 17 1984 PAGE 2
Mr. Robinson stated this property was located on the southeast corner of 72nd
Avenue and Highway N65. The property was surrounded by other light industria)
on the north and south and heavy industrial to the west. Of interest in this
request was the adjacent R-3 property to the east which was proposed to be used
for a parking i0t.
Mr. Robinson stated Staff was recortmending the folla�inq stipulations:
1. An acceptable landscape plan which will screen the hard surface
areas.
2. Six ft, and 8 ft, solid wood fencing in front of the loading
dock and around outside storage.
3. Six-inch concrete curbing as per code
4. Approval of southerly curb location contingent upon variance
approval
5. Special use permit is contingent upon the City receivinq a
$10,000 performance bond
6. All improvements to be completed by June 1, 1985
Mr. Robinson sta4ed the drainage plan haS been approve� hy ±he Rice rYPPk
Watershed Bistict. In addition, the City would like to Timit the existing
parking speces in front, which are not settrack 20' as per Code, to only 5
spaces with added landscaping. Presently there are 10 spaces in front of
the building. The petitioner has indicated he does need these stalls for
parking for the office and sales people.
Mr. Louis Rosberg, Kurt Manufacturing, stated he had prepared a statemenL
for the Planning Commission members which talked about why they need the
parking lot and what they would like to do to improve the property, He
stated he was in agreement with all the stipulations, except for the limit-
ing of the parking spaces in front of the building from 10 spaces to 5 spaces.
He stated they employ about 40 people, of which 4-6 are staff people--
secretaries and management people. The offices are in the front corner of
the butlding, He wanted to provide a handicapped parking stall and parking
for the people who are dressed up to enter the office area. He stated they
have a machine shop atmosphere and the way the building is laid out, it
would be very difficult for people coming from the parking 1ot in back to
go through the machine shop area to the offices because of the safety hazard
and the fact that these people would be dressed up, He did not want visitors
to have to come from the back. He would like to salvage as many of the 10
parking stalls as he could in front for the visitors and staff.
Mr. Rosberg stated they are in the process of restoring the building
and irtstalling insulation and thermo windows for heat conservation.
Mr. Robinson stated maybe Staff could look at this further and come up with
a compromise on the parking stalls in front of the building,
Ms. Schnabel suggested maybe some of the office people could park in the back,
6ecause of the problem with parking spaces in front in order to free up some
spaces for visitors.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 17 1984 PAGE 3
Mr. Rosberg stated that besides the safety hazard of people going through
tfie buiiding to the offices, he would be very concerned about people walking
either on the street on the north side of the building or in the truck lane
on the sout� side of tfie building in order to get from the parking lot in
back to the offices in front. 7here are no sidewalks around the building.
Mr. Saba stated he felt the City should come up with some compromise for
parking stalls in front of the building,
i Mr. Oquist agreed with Mr. Saba.
� Mr, Robinson stated he felt that if they could come up with a good land-
scaping plan, the City could probably compromise with seven stalls.
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO CLOSE THE PUIILIC HEARZNG
ON SP N89-Z4 BY KURT MANUFACTURING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWQMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED SHE PUBLIC
XEARING CIASED AT 7:55 P.M.
MOTTON BY �fR. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO RECOMMEND TO CZTY COUIICIL
APPROVAL OF A REQUEST FY�R A SPECIRL USE' PERMIT, SP �84-I9� BY KURT MANUFAC-
TURING, PER SECTION 205.09.1, C, 4� OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE� TO ALLOW
AATACENT R-3 (GEr7ERAL MULTIPLE DWELLING) PROPERTY TD BE U5ED FOR R PARY.ING
LlYI POR A BUSZNE55 IN M-I ZONING (LIGH2' INDU5TRIAL) , IACATED ON THE WEST
375 PEET OF IAT 2, RUDITOR`S SUBDZVISION NO. 89� THE SAME BEZNG
7191 HIGNWAY N65 N.E., WISH THE FOLIAWING STIPULATIONS:
Z. AN ACCEPTABLE LANDSCAPE PLAN WHSCH WSLL SCREEN SHE HARD SURFACE
AREAS.
2. SIX FT. AND EI('iHT FT, SOLID WOOD FENCING IN FRONT OF THE IAADING
DOCK AND AROUND OUTSIDE STORAGE AREA ON THE EASE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
3. SIX-INCH CONCRETE CUI2BING AS PER CODE.
4. APPROVAL OF SOUTHERLY CURB LOCRTION CONTINGENT UPON VARIANCE
APPROVAL.
5. SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS CONTINGENT UpON THE CITY RECEIYING A
510�000 PERFORINANCE BOND.
6. ALL IMPROVEMENTS TO BE COMPLETED BY JUNE 1, I985.
7. TNE EXISTZNG PAR7CING SPACES IN FRONT OF THE BUZLDING BE REDUCED
FROM 10 21� 7 AND THESE AREAS BE LANDSCAPED.
UPON A POZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TNE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Schnabel stated this item would go to City Council on November 5.
2, PUBLIC HEARIN6: CONSIDERA7ION OF A REQUEST fOR A SPECIAL USE PERMI7
�er �ection �05.T5.1, �; �, o��Fie—Fridley �iy o e, o a ow e continu-
ation of a mobile home sales lot under nerl management on Parcel 2691 in
Section 12, a site approximately 300 feet by 600 feet, except that part
taken for highway purposes, the same being 7625 Viron Road N.E.
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PLANNIN6 COM�IISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 17, 1984 PAGE 4
MOTZON BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR, NFELSEN� TO OPEN TFlE PfJBLIC
HEARINC QN SP MB4-20� TWIN CZTY NOMES D/8/A MOBILE HOMES USA.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL WTINC AYE� CHAZRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN AT 7:59 P.M.
Mr. Robinson stated this business was located on Highway #65 north of
fireside Drive. It has been used as a mobile home sales outlet in the past,
and this special use permit request is far a continuation of that business
as the last special use permit lapsed in 1983. He stated Staff was
recortmending tfie following stipulations:
1, Clean up the rear yard. This includes removing debris from
mobile homes, several dilapidated storage sheds, and junked
trai]ers.
2. Repair and maintain the gate on the screening fence surrounding
the refuse container.
3. File a drainage easement with the County and the City.
4. Submit an agreement signed by Randy Grohnke, owner of Twin City
Homes and the property owner to the north, to the City stating
they will share equally in the erectio� of a fence at the time of
development to the north.
5. Submit a landscape plan, This plan should include additional
screening along the northwest and southwest corners of the property.
6. Existing sign must be brought into compliance or a variance
approved for excess square footage.
7. Setback trailers a minimum of 35 ft, from right �f way.
8. Special use permit approval contingent upon petitioner submitting
a $5,000 performance bond,
' 9. All improvements to be completed by Nov. 30, 1984, with the
. exception of landscaping to be completed by June 1� 1985,
Mr. Robinson stated #'4 was not a code requirement; however, in the Nov. 4, 1981
Planning Cortanission minutes, it was one of the stipulations in the approval of
the special use permit at that time. Upon receiving notice of this present
proposal, Mr. David Harris, property owner to the North, requested that this
stiDUlation be reinstated at this time.
Ms. Schnabel asked the petitioner, Mr. Grohnke, if he had any comments
regarding the stipuiations.
Mr. &rohnke stated he had no problems with any of the stipulations he had
control over, He was not the owner of the property and, therefore, had no
control over stipulations �3 and �4. No. 3 was filing the drainage easement
with the County and the City, and M4 was sharing equally on the cost of a fence
with the property owner to the north at tf�e time of deveTopment of the property
to the north.
Mr. 6rohnke stated he has already cleaned up a good �eal of the debris out
of the rear yard. That should 6e completed in about 1-2 weeks.
PLANNIN6 COM�4ISSION �4EETING, OCTOBER U, 1484 PAGE 5
Mr, Jack Maxwell, owner 8f the property, stated that at the time he had
agreed with the property owner to the north that he was willing to share
{n tfie cost of a fence at the time the property to the north was developed.
Sut, that property has not yet been developed. He was still willing to
honor that agreement, but only when the property was developed,
Ms. Schnabel stated she was a little uncomfortable making the fence part of
the stipulations since it was really an agreement between the two property
owners and was something that should be worked out between the two owners.
Mr, Robinson stated that since it was an agreement between the two propety
owners and Mr. Maxwell was still agreeable to honor the agreement, this
stipulation could probably be dropped.
Ms. Schnabel stated she would like to see this special use permit reviewed
in June 1985 to make sure all the stipulations have been accomplished,
MOTION BY MR. XONDRICK, SECONDED 8Y MR. NIELSEN, TO CIASE THE PUBLIC HEARING
ON SP pB4-20, 4TJIN CITY HOMES D/B/A MOBILE HOMES USA.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNRBEL DECLARED TXE PUBLIC
HEARING CLOSED AT 8:15 P.M.
MOTSON BY MR, MINSON� SECONDSD BY MR. KONDRICK, TO RECOMMEND TO CSTY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF REQUEST FpR SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #84-20, TWIN CITY XOMES D/B/A
MOBILE HOMES USA, BY RANDY GRDHNKE� PER SSCTZON 205.15.1, C, 3� OF TNE
PRIDLEY CITY CODE, TO ALI�OW THE CONTINUATION OF A MOBILE HOME SALES LOT UNDER
NEW MANAGEMENT ON PARCEL 2691 IN SECTION 12, A SITE APPROXIMATELY 300 FEET
BY 600 FEET� EXCEPT THAT PART TAKEN FOR HIGNWAY PURPOSES� THE SAME BEINC
7625 VIRON ROAD N.E.� WZTX TNE FOLLOWZNG STZPULATION5:
I. CLEAN UP THE REAR YARD. THIS INCLUDES REMOVING DEBRIS FROM MOBSLE
HOMES, SEVERAL DILAPIDATED S2YJRRGE SXEDS, AND JUNXED TXAILERS,
2. REPAZR AND MAINTAIN THE GATE ON THE SCREENING FENCE SURROUNDING
SHE REFDSE CONTRINER.
3. FILE A DRAINAGE EASEMENT WITH THE COUNTY AND THE CZTY,
'1. SUBl�IT A I.ANDSCRPE PLAN. THIS PLAN SHOULD INCLUDE ADDITIONAL
SCREENZNG AIANG THE NORTHWEST AND SOUTHWEST CORNERS OF THE PROPERTY.
5. EXISTING SIGIJ MUST BE BROUGXT TNTO COMPLIANCE OR A VRRIANCE
APPROVED FOR EXCESS SQUARE FOOTAGE.
6, SETBACK TRRILERS A MINIMUM OF 35 FT. FROM RIGHT OF WAY.
7, SPECZAL USE PERNIT APPROVAL CONTINGENT UPON pETITIONER SUBMZTTING
A $5,000 PBRFORFIANCE BOND.
8. ALL IMpROVEMENTS TO BE COMPLETED BY NOV. 30, I984� WITH TlfE
EXCEPTION OF LANDSCRPING TO BE COMPLETED BY JUNE 1, I985.
9, SPECZAL USE PERMZT 2YJ BE REVIEWED A2 TXE FIRST PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETSNG SN JUNE 2985.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL YOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TNL' MOTION
CARRSED UNANIMOUSLY.
PLANNIt�G COMNISSION MEETING OCTOBER 17 1984 PAGE 6
3, PUDLIC HEARING: CONSIDFRAT
FORAS
c�a.u�,w or Lne r n oiey t,ity Lode� to allav a different
S-1 zoning (Special DisLrict for Hyde Park) on Lots 76�
Block 12. Hyde Park, the same being 5915 3rd Street N.E.
Cart Sales and Service).
cK• rer �ectlon
commercial use in
17. and 18.
(Formerly Go1f
MOTION BY MR. SABA� SECONDED 8Y XR. MINTON� TO OpEN T6E pUBLZC BEARING ON
SP 84-?I� WERNER'S FUFtNITURE SERVICE� BY YIRGZL D. WERNER,
UPAY A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECZdIRED THE
PUBLIC XEARING OPEN AT B:?I P,M.
Mr. Robinson siated this property was located on the northeast corner of 59th
Avenue and 3rd Street. The property is vacant at this time. The last use was
for a 9olf cart repair and sales business. There are presently 5 forty foot lots--
four to the north of 59th and one to the south of 59th. The special use permit
is for three of the lots north of 59Lh. The petitioner, Mr. Werner,would like
to put in a furniture repair and restoration business. It is a small scale
operation with very little customer parking. Mr. Werner had stated that most
of the business is pick-up and delivery, and that there will be very little
impact on the neighborhood. It seems like a good business for the area and
will clean up an eyesore. 7t was also downscaling a Dusiness operation which was
a goal in the Hyde Park area.
Mr. RoDinson stated this leaves two lots. The owner has been able to procure
purchase a9reements for the other two lots--one on the north of the business
and the l�ot south of 59th, from the adjacent property owners. The ietter from
Oennis Munson, the present owner of the two l�ts, and copies of the purchase
agreements were included in the agenda.
Mr. Robinson stated Staff would recomnend the ful7owing stipulations:
1. Remove the existi�g fence
2. Provide paved driveway and three parking stalls as per amended plan
3, Provide concrete curbing around parking lot and driveway within
three years
4. Landscape lot as per plan to include seeding af lat
5. Paint building
6. Remove accessory structure by June 1. 1985
7. Provide a 55,000 performance bond
8. A71 work to be completed by June 1, 1985, except curbing
9. Speciat use permit to be issued to Werner's Furnfture only and to
be reviewed in three years or prior to ownership
Mr. Robinson stated stipulation #2 was open for discussion. He stated code
required five parking spaces; but in the past. if a petitioner can give a
reason why that many spaces are not needed, but area €or five is provided,
then a compromise ceuld be accepted.
PLANNING COhA1I5SI0N MEETTNG, OCTOBER 17 1984 PAGE 7
Tfie petitioner, Mr. Uirgil �erner, stated his present business is located
on Osborne Road in Fridley where he has been for nine years. Before that,
he operated a business in Columbia Heights, Ne stated he was purchasing
Lots 16, 17, and 18 from Mr. Munson. It was actually a rentlPurchase agree-
�ent. At tfie present time, he has every indication �f exercising the option
quite quickly. He stated he had �o problem with the stipulations as stated
except for #6. He stated he would have an extremely difficult time obtainin9
a performance bond with tfiat stipulation, because he had no control over lot
19 which the accessory structure was on. He would request #6 be removed,
Mr. Robinson stated the property owner, Mr, Munson, has agreed that in the
event the property the accessory structure is on does not sell per the purchase
agreement, he will take the responsi6ility to remove the dilapiAated structure
by June 1985.
Mr. Oquist asked Mr. Werner how hazardous chemicals were handled.
Mr. Werner stated he was very closely controlled by the EPA {Environmental
protection Agency}, He has at 12ast a semi-annual inspection by EPA officials.
Ms. Gabel asked how the hazardous chemicals are contained within the building.
Mr. Werner stated the chemicals are maintained in the bottom of a tank,
When it is full of chemicals, the chemicals are screened out and put into a
drum. The drums are picked up by commercial shippers and shipped out. All
drums are stored within the building.
Mr. Robinson stated Mr. Werner had also indicated there would be no outside
storage other than some lumber,
Ms. Schnabel stated she would like to discuss the parking stall figure. She
stated that as a consumer, she felt Mr. Werner really needed some additional
stalls for customers picking up and dropping off materials.
Mr. Werner stated he averages less than one walk-in customer a day. He
stated his company vehicle will be parked in back and there was ample room
for two vefiicles. He stated that from experience,the few customers who do
come to the shop usually stop in the driveway. He stated he has rarely had
two people in the sfiop at the same time in the nine years he has been on
Osborne Road. Of the 3 spaces that would be provided, he felt he would
rarely have more than one of those spaces used. However, he would provide
wfiatever parking stalls the Planning Cortmission and City Council recommended.
Mr. Munson stated that in three years when the special use permit is reviewed,
if they find the business warrants an additional two stalls. those spaces
can be installed at that time,
MOTION BY MR, SABA� SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK� TO CLOSE THE pUBLIC HEARSNG
ON SP #84-21 BY VIRGIL D. WERNER,
UPON A YOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAZRWOlNAN SCHNABEL DECLAFtED THE PUBLZC
HEARZNG CZASED AT 8:49 P,M.
PLAYNING COMMISSION MEETIP�G OC706ER 17 1984 PAGE 8
Ms. Gabel stated that regarding stipulation N6, she felt it should be included.
If the sale fa11s through, it is ail property that is tied together by one
owner, She stated she wou7d like to see this business happen as it wi11 be
good for the neighborhood and will clean up the area� but she felt it was
also a good time to take care of a problem that has been existing for some
time,
Mr, Oquist stated he questioned the removal of this structure being part of
the stipulations as this lot was not one of the lots invotved in the special
use permit.request.
MOTION BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST� 2'O RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF REQUEST FVR SPECIAL USE PERNIT� SP iY84-2I, WERNER'S FURNITURE
SERVZCE� BY PIRGZL D, WERNER� PER SECTION 205,05.4 OF THE FRZDLEY CITY CODE
TO ALLOp7 A DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL USE SN S-1 ZONING (SPECIAL DISTRICT FOR
HYDE PAR1;) ON LpTS I6, 17� AND 18� BLOCK 12� NYDE PARK� TXE SAME BEING
5915 3RD STREET N,E.� WITH THE fYJLLOWING STIPULATZONS:
I. REMOVE TNE EXISTING FENCE
2. PROVIDE pAVED DRIVEWAY AND THREE PRRXING STRLLS AS pER AMENDED PLAN
3. PROYZDE CONCRETE CURBING AROUND PARKING LOT AND DRIVEWAY WITHIN
3 YEARS
4• LANASCRPE LOT AS PER PLAN TO INCLUDE SEEDING OF LUT
5. PAZNT BUILDZNG
6. PROVIDE R$5�000 PERFORMANCE BOND
7. ALL WORK TO BE COMPLETED BY ,7UNE 2� I985� EXCEPT CURBING
8. SpECIAL USE PSRMIT R1� BE ZSSUED TO WEg1YER'S FURNITURE ONLY AND TO
BE REVIEWED IN TNREE YE.ARS OR PRIOR TO OWNERSNIP� WHICNEVER COMES
FIRST.
UPON A VOICE VpTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAZ%JOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TNE MOTION
CARRZED UNAN,IMDUSLY.
Ms. Schnahel stated this item would go to City Council on Nov. 5
4, LOT SPLIT RE UEST L.S. N84-11 BY A. G. ASLEfORD: Split off the South
eet o t e ester y 0 eet o t e ort er y 30 feet of the Northeast
Quarter of the Northwest Quarter of Section 12, T-30, R-24, together with
that part of the West half of the Northwest Quarter of said Section 12 lying
Easterly of State Highway No. 65 and Wester]y of the 7and described above,
to make city records agree with Anoke tounty records. Subject to easements
of record.
Mr, Robinson stated this lot split was coincidental with the Special Use
Permit for Twin City Homes heard earlier tonight. This as basica7ly administra-
tive housekeeping. In 1980 the owners split off 80 ft. and sold it to Mr.
Maxwell. This was recorded with the County but was never processed through
the City. At this time there is a park fee due. Mr. Asleford has si9ned the
park fee agreement. There are no other recommended stipulations.
PLANNING La414IS5I0N MEETING, OCTOBER 17, 1984 PAGE 9
MOTION BY PIR. OQUIST� SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK, TO APPROVE ILYI' SPLIT REpUE52,
L.S. N84-12� BY A, G. ASLEFURD� TO SPLIT OFF TXE SOUTH 80 FEET OF THE
WESTERLY 600 FEET OF THE NORTNERLY 530 FEET OF TNE NORTNEAST pUARTER OF THE
NOR2HWSST pUARTER OF SECTION 22� T-30, R-24� RbGETHER WSTX THAS PART OF TNE
WEST HALF OF TNE NORTHDIEST QUARTER OF SAZD SECTION Z2 LYING EASTERLY OF
STATE HIGNWAY NO. 65 AND WESTERLY OF TNE LAND DESCRIBED ABOVE� TD M,AKE CZTY
RECORAS AGREE WITN ANOXA COUNTY RECORAS. SIIBJECT TO EASEMENTS OF RECORD.
UPON A VOICE VDTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CNAIRFJOMIW SCHNABEL DECLARED TXE MOTION
CARRIED UNATJIMOUSLY.
Ms. Schnabel stated this item would go to City Council on Nov. 5.
5. VACATION RE UEST SAV #84-05 TARGET INC. BY DICK BROOKS: Yacate Able
reet out o 3r Avenue .E. to a ow for uture expansion of Target
office and warehouse the same being 1090 73rd Avenue N.E. and 7120 Highway N65.
The petitioner was not in the audience.
Mr. Robinson stated Target was i�vestigating the possibility of purchasing
the vacant property south of 73rd and west of Able St. for possible expansion
of their warehouse operations. In conjunction with that, Target would like to
get approval from the City for the vacation of Able St. south of 73rd and
north af Locke Park. If the vacation was approved, the City would have to
look at another approach to the park, and the City would be requiring that
Target provide sane other type of right of way from 73rd to the park. That
will all be contingent upon what Target comes up with for a site plan.
Mr. Robinson stated the City has been in touch with the County, and he thought
the County was agreeable as long as Target provides an alternate route to the
park, The County has some plans to extend the service road past the city
garage as another route to the park.
Mr. Oquist stated he thought Target would have to provide a site plan before
the vacation was approved by tfie City Louncil.
Mr. Saba stated he thought a vrarehouse/office type building across fran
Locke Park could have an adverse impact on the natural preservation of the
park area.
Mr. Robinson stated Mr. Saba's concern was certainly a valid concern. However,
he felt we could work toward successfully interfacing this expansion with the park.
Ms. Schnabel stated the City Council has set a public hearing on this for
Nov. 5. Maybe the Planning Cortmission should recommend that the County have
their proposed idea for new access available at that public hearing, even if
tt is in a preliminary stage, so the City Council can decide whether it would
be advisable to vacate Able St. There should be some statement from the
County regarding that access at the City Council meeting.
PLRNNIP�G COMMISSION h1EETING, OCTOBER 17 1984 PAGE 10
The Commissioners agreed that an alternate access to Locke Park should be
constructed prior to the vacation of Able Street.
MOTSON BY MR. OpU752� SECONDED BY MR, MZNTAN, TO RECOMi+IEND TO CZTY COUNCIL
APPROVAL, ZN PRINCIPLE, OF VRCASION REQUESS, SAV �l84—O5� TARGET� INC.� BY
DZCK BROOXS, TO VACATE ABLE STREET SWTH OF 73RD AVENUE N.E. TO ALLOW FOR
FUTUAE EXPANSION OF TARGET OF£ZCE AND WAREHOUSE� TNE SAF1E BETNG I090 73RD
AVENUE N.E, AND 7120 NIGNWAY N65.� WZTH THE STIPULATION THAT BEFORE TNE
VACATION ACTUALLY COMMENCES, THERE BE AN APPROVED� I1+8ROVED ACCESS TO
iACKE PARK.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMRN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTSON
CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY,
6, COMMENTS OR RECOMMENDATION OPd AN OR[IINANCE RECODIFYING THE FRIDLEY CITY
Mr. Oquist stated the Community Development reviewed this ordinance at their
last meeting. The Comnunity Development Commission did not have any
recommended changes, because the ordinance was obviously written in legal
form by an attorney. The Canmission felt that if the ordinance can hold up
in court, as written, they would recomnend approval.
Mr. Jim Hill, Public Safety Director, stated the document was actually drafted
by a Hennepin County Attorney and was stil7 under consideration by Hennepin
County and the City of Minneapolis. He stated the City of Fridley has made
some minor modifications to the document. He gave the Commissioners an updated
copy of the ordinance. He stated that because of the emergency situation in
Fridley,they have already had the first readino at City Cnuncil. He stated
they are trying to keep the ordinance as simple as possible because they assume
it will be challenged.
MOTSON BY MR. MINTON� SECONDED BY MIi. SABA� TO RECObfMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROYAL OF AN ORDINANCE RECODSFYING THE FRIDLEY CSTY CODE BY ADOPTING A
NEW CHAPTER Z26 ENTZTLED� "XOUSES OF PROSTITUTZON: PUBLIC NU2SANCE".
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHRIRWOMAN SCHt1ABEL DECLARED THE MOTSON
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
Ms. Schnabel thanked Mr. Hill for coming to the meeting and reviewing the
ordinance with them.
7. RECEIVE SEPTEMBER 24, 1984, PARKS & RECREATIOtt COMMISSION MINU7ES:
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL, TO RECEIVE THE SEPT. 24, 2984�
PARKS & RECREATZON COMMISSION MINUTES.
P4r. Kondrick stated he had broughL up the subject of progrartming in the
Center City Plaza area and had wanted to know of the Parks & Recreation
Comnission had any ideas on how they could better utilize the plaza area to
greater advantage in 1985. He stated Dr. Boudreau had said the plaza was
nnt a park facility. The City does assist by programming some programs in
PLAfJNING COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 17 1984 PAGE 11
the plaza, but �r. Boudreau stated it was not a prime area for progrartming,
Dr. Boudreau stated the plaza was open to the public and was a facility
available for programming, but that specially tailored programs for the plaza
area was not within the Parks & Recreation Department's realm at this time.
Mr. Kondrick stated he would just like to go on record that he felt the piaza
was a beautiful area, and it would be nice to have more programning in the
plaza.
Ms. Gabel agreed with Mr. Kondrick.
Mr, Oquist suggested the Parks & Recreation Comnission might want to consider
forming a project committee to plan programming for the plaza area.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CNAZRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED'THE MOTION
CRRRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
8. RECEIVE SEPTEMBER 24, 1984, ENERGY CO�iMIS5I0N MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY Mf2. NSELSEN, Tp RECEZVE THE SEPT, 24, 1984,
� COMMISSION MINUTES,
lJPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTSNG AYE, CHAIRWOMAN 5CXNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
9. RECEIVE OCTOBER 4, 1984, HUMAN RESOURCES CQhMISSION MINUTES:
MOTZON BY MR. MINTON� SECONDED BY 1�42. NIEZSEN� TO RECESVE iXE OCT. 4, 1984,
HUMAN RESOURCES COMM75SION MINUTES.
Mr. Minton stated the Human Resources Ccmnission memhers had a meeting that
morning with Dave Torkildson, Anoka County Parks & Recreation Director,
Ed Fitzpatrick, Gity Councilperson, and Kerry Van Fleet, Fridley Chamber of
Commerce. They told Mr. Torkildson that since all the publicity on the
Banfill Tavern, four parties have expressed serious interest in the Banfill
Tavern. Mr. Torkildson had stated that as far as he was concerned, the County
was not interested in selling or leasing the Banfill Tavern at the present
time, but was more interested in having groups and clubs (4-H clubs, etc.)
use the building, using county money to continue to restore and maintain it.
Mr. Minton stated they had tried to impress upon Mr, Torkildson that it would
take about $200,000 or more to restore the building and that the cost of
heating and maintenance would continue to be a problem that could use taxpayer's
money in the future, Mr. Torkildson had stated it was reasonable to assume
that the money was available through the County,
Mr. Minton stated the Commission will go ahead as planned and make a recommen-
dation giving the various alternatives, and the County will have to make the
choice, He stated the Human Resources Comnission would like to move on this
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, OC70BER 17, 1984 PAGE 12
as quickly as possible. Staff was drafting a paper for the Canmission to
review at its next meeting. Hopefully, the Commission wili be able to pass
a recommendation on to the Planning Commiss4on and City Council after their
next meeting.
Mr, Minton stated the Planning Commission members had received a copy of the
City of Fridley Utilization Analysis, Permanent Full-Time Employees Report
for 1975, 1980, 1984. He reviewed this with the Comnission members.
Ms. Schnabel thanked Mr. Minton for getting the Planning Commission this
updated report.
UDON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10. RECEIVE OCTOBER 9, 1984, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS. GABEL, SECONDED bY MR, MINTON, TO RECEIVE TNE OCT. 9� I984,
APPEAIS COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE� CHAIAWOMRN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MR. MINTON, TO ADJOURN Tf1E MEETING. UPON A
VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRiti'OMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE OCT, 17, 2984,
PLANNING CPMMISSION MEETING RDJOURNED AT 20:25 P.M.
Respectfully sub itted,
�' 'zL �~Ci.�
Lynn a a
Recording Secretary
PUBLIC HEARING
BEFORE THE
PLANNING COMMISSION
Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the
Planning Corrmission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431
University Avenue Northeast on Wednesday, November 28, 1984
i� the Council Chamber at 7:30 P,M, for the purpose of:
Consideration of a request for a Special Use Permit,
SP �84-22, Unity Medical Center, by �ohn Naines, per
Section 205.07.1, 3, B, of the Fridley City Code, to
allow a 43,000 sq. ft. addition to Unity Hospital,
located on Parcel 600, in the North Half of Section
11, T-30, R-24, City of Fridley, the same being 550
Osborne Road N.E.
Any and e�� persons desiring to be heard shall be given an opportunity
at the above stated time and place,
VIRGINIA SCHNASEL
CHAIRWOMAN
PLANNING COMMISSION
Publish: November 12, 1984
November 19, 1984
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CIT�/ OF FRi�LEY�
M91 UN�VERSITY AVE NE.
iR1OlEY. MN. 63a3C t61Z1,6T�-7060
DDRESS ���
SUBJECT
SPECIAL USE PERMIT
�i, , /'
PIANNING COIMIISSION: APPROYEO DISAPPROVED
CITY COUNCIL:
STIPULATIONS:
APPROYED DISAPPROYED bATE
STREET LOCATION OF PROPERTY
Y�IEGAL DESCRIPTION OF
BU
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SP �,e'�'�'�5<-°��.{
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fEE o1 0 D�RECEIPT NO��
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PRESENT ZONING LLASSIFICATION � i E%ISTING USE OF PROPERTY 7ru-1,�-�-
ACREAGE OF PROPERTY 3i � DESLRIBE BRIEFLY THE %PECIAL USE APPLIED FOR:
���u� � � �'
Section of the Code �oS.07. 1, �r _�.
Has the present applicant previously sought to rezone. plat, obtain a lot split or
variance or special use permit on the subject site or part of it? _�yes no.
Mhat was requested and xhen?
The u�dersigned understands that: (a) A 7ist of all residents and owners of proper-
ty within 200 feet Mi11 be attached to this apptication. ..
'. • - � ,. � '(b) This appiication must be signed
by all owners of the property. or an exp7anation jiven why this is not the case.
(c) Responsibility tor any 3efect in the proceedings resulting from the failure to
. list the names and addresss of all residents a�d property owenrs of propRrty in
question. belongs to the undersigned.
A sketch of proposed property and structure must be drawn and attached, showing the
following: 1. North direction. 2. Lotation of the proposed structure on the lot.
3. Dimensions of property, proposed structure, and fron and side setbacks. 4. Street
names. 5. Location and use of adjacent existing buildings (within 35Q feetl.
The undersi�ned hereby declares that all the facts and respresentati,pns stated in
this application are true and correct. �%;wi- Fa�.lul�ll. (�c� �"� f-��'��
�,`,��i ������� ��. �P
DJ1TE /!!!'� • �. �'`! SIGNATURE �`-�.�!�/m ���""y"`"` 7
IDDRFSS���2G�%/�`��`"`� G�� ��� �.l � �� TELEPHONE RO � �� �
O�ity Medical Center
SP M84-
Unity Medical Center
C/o John Haines
550 Osborne Road
Fridley, Mn 55432
fridley ASSembly of God
472 Osborne Road N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Grace Lutheran Church
460 75th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Garth L. Willhite
7574 5th Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Michael L. Flaten
7556 5th Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Bonnie Little
7558 5th Street N.E.
Fridley, �tn 55432
Mark N. Alfredson
7550 5th Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Stephen C. Oltman
J542 5th Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Howard W. Rolseth
1534 5th Street N.E.
Fridiey, Mn 55432
Michael Traufler
7526 Sth Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55�32
Irene Barber
1518 5th Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Robert J. Harding
7510 5th Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
MAILING LIST
Earl J. Dahlin
7502 5th Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Darrel A. Johnson
7501 4th Street N.E
Fridley, Mn 55432
Thomas o. Stimart
7509 4th Street N.E
Fridley, Mn 55432
Dennis J. Kugler
7517 4th Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Kenneth A. Christiansen
7525 4th Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Robert D. Moseman
7533 4th Street N.E
fridley, Mn 55432
Kenneth J. Maeller
7541 4th Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55A32
Alvin W. 5chlangen
7549 4th Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Jerry D. Larson
7557 4th Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Harold I. Sorenson
7565 4th Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Jean D. Davis
7573 Ath Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Peter Yan Hauer
350 Osborne Road N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
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Planning Comnission November 20, 1984
Vernon E. Godeen
375 76th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
George D. Wilder
361 76th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Carl Wahlstrom
347 76th Avenae N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
4lilliam J. Adams
400 Osborne Road N.E.
fridley, Mn 55432
Dorothy Danzl
401 76th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Bertram R. Smith
7A50 Tempo Terrace N.E.
fridley, Mn 55432
Eugene B. Vnuk
7440 Tempo Terrace N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55A32
Kenneth Johnson
7430 Tempo Terrace N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Dorothy Wicklund
7561 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Harley Thureen
7559 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Denis Christianson
7553 Lyric Lane N.E.
Lloyd Larson
7549 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Urbin P. Mayer
1545 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mailing List
Page 2
SP p84-22
Unity Medical Center
Kathleen E. Shocinski
7539 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Linda H. Dunn
7535 Lyric Lane N.E
Fridley, Mn 55432
Jerome R. Meyer
7531 Lyric Lane N.E
fridley, Mn 55432
Gary L. Mi11er
7527 Lyric Lane N.E
Fridley, Mn 55432
Daniel P. Pilarski
1523 Lyric Lane N,E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Frank R. Gams
7517 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Glen R. Byi
7513 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Michael Gibson
7509 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Thomas E. Helm
7505 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Kenneth Amundson
7501 Lyric Lane N. E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Albert E. Jorgensen
7500 Tempo Terrace N.E
Friatey, Mn 55432
Howard P. He�gen
7502 7empo Terrace N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55A32
David Jakubik
7506 7empo Terrdce N
Fridley, Mn 55432
Arthur J. Langlais
7508 Tempo Terrace N.E
Fridley, Mn 55432
Kenneth J. Bourdeaux
7512 7empo Terrace N
fridley, MN 55432
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Dale Messerli
7410 Tempo Terrace N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Thomas M. Gronlund
E• 7411 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fri�ley, MN 55432
Robert L. Reber
7516 Tempo Terrace N.E
Fridley, Mn 55432
Thomas Zimnerman
7518 Tempo Terrace N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Rona�d ' J. Kloyda
7522 Tempo Terrace N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Walter F. Erickson
7524 Tempo Terrace N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Alvin R. Overlie
7528 Tempo Terrace N.E
Fridley, Mn 55432
Kenneth R. Westeren
7530 Tempo Terrace N.E
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mark M. Kennedt�
7534 7empo'7errace NE
Fridley, Mn 55432
Fridley Medicat Center
7685 Madison Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Unity View Londominiums
R• L• Hofirrpuist
450 75th Avenue N.E.
fridley, Mn 55432
Arno E. Rosin
�400 Lyric Lane
Fridley, Mn 55432
E- Donald Peterson
415 74th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Ethen Tsai
�3y1-14-3�1 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Albert L. Ro6erge
7431 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Robert W. Powell
7441 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Thomas Schonebaum
7420 7empo Terrace N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Harlan D. Mahowald
7451 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
City of Spring Lake Park
1391 81st Avenue N.E.
Spring Lake Park, Mn 55432
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PUBLIC HEARING
BEFORE THE
PLANNIN6 LOMMISSION
Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the
Planning Cortmission of the City of Fridtey in the City Hall at 6431
University Avenue Northeast on Wednesday, November 28, 1984
in the Council Chamber at 1:30 P.M. for the Purpose of;
Consideration of a request for a Special Use Permit,
SP #84-23, Champion Auto, by Douglas P. Kraska, per
Section 2�5.15.1, 3, D, to allow a repair garage in
conjunction with a retail business, on Lot 18, Block
5, Rice Creek Plaza South Addition, the same being
6528 University Avenue Northeast in Yhe Holly
Shopping Center.
Any and all persons desiring to be heard sfiall be given an opportunity
at the above stated time and place.
Publish: November 12, 1984
November 19, 1984
YIRGINIA SCHNABEL
CHAIRWOMAN
PLANNING COMMISSIDN
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CITY OF FiiIOLEY� � SUBJECT
sa» uw�ver+s�rr wve. w�. SPECIAL USE PERMIT
iR10lEY. MN. 65s3E [61Zf 571-i450
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PLANNIN6 COl94ISSION: APPROVED DIS'IPPROYED DATE N0.
CITY COUNCIL: . APPROVED DISAPPROYED DATE NO
STIPULATIONS:
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Heartland University"Comnercial �
X NAME Limited Partnership FEE 4C� RECEIPT NO y 9 0
STREET LOCATION OF PROPERTY 6528 University Ave�ue N.E.,
LEGAL DESLRIP7ION OF_PROPERTYLot 18 Blk 5 Rice Crk Plaza 5 Add - Sub.iect to Easements
PRESENT 20NING CLASSIFICATION �-3 EXISTING USE OF PROPERTY General Shcppinq
ACREAGE Of PROPERTY348,712 s.f. DESCRIBE BRIEFLY THE SPECIAL USE APPLIED FOR:
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Section of the Code: ao3�, !6'� ,3 .Ct"—
Has the present applicant previously sought to fezone, ptat, obtain a lot split or
variance or special use permit on the subject site or part of it? __yes x no.
Mhat was requested and when?
The undersigned understands that: (a) A tist of a11 residents and owners of proner-
ty within 200 feet Wi71 be attached to this application. ..
'. ' ' � �. '(b) This application must be signed
by ail awnen of tfie propepty, or an expianation �iven why this is not the case.
(c) Responsibility for any Jefect {n the proceedings resulting from the failure to
• list the names and addresss of all residents and property owenrs of prop�rty in
question, belongs to tne undersigned.
A sketch of proposed property and structure must be drawn and aYtached, showing the
following: 1. Narth direction. 2. Location of the proposed structure on the lot.
3. Dimensions of property, proposed structure, and fron and side setbacks. 4. Street
names. 5. Location and use of adjacent existing buildings {within 350 feet).
The undersiQned hereby declares that all
this application are true and correct.
DATE � � SI6NATURE
the facts and respresentations stated in
ADDRESSo'�/oD .tfo �e//•i/6 �� �
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SP �84-23 Champion Auto
Douglas Kraska
Champion Auto
6528 University Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
. Jaroslaw Abramshuk
298 67th Avenae N.E.
° Fridley, Mn 55432
Donald L. Evans
290 67th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Edward Polanski
280 67th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Michel Dougherty
270 87th Avenue N.E.
fridley, MN 55432
Byron D. Butters
260 67th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Pamela J. Eilers
250 67th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432'
9igne E. Peterson
240 67th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
James B. Gumphrey
230 67th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Grace A. You�g6loom
220 67th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
John ?. Johnsone
580 69th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Kathleen M. Petecson
200 67th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 558�2
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Planning Commission November 19, 198
MAILING LIST
Jerry Guimont
2187 Lake Brook Drive
New Brighton, Mn 55112
Progressive Property
cJo Duane Narog
1465 North Danube Road M.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Chester J. Gromek
3600 36th Avenue N.E.
Minneapolis, Mn 55�18
Harvey H.Peterson
151 Glen Creek Road N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Joseph M. Lapinski
201 Mississippi N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Heartland Realty Investment, Inc.
4802 Nicollet Avenue
Minneapolis, Mn 55426
Phillips Petroleum Company
755 Ballas Road South
St. Louis, MO 63141
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PUBLIC HEARIN6
BEFORE THE
PLANNING COMMISSION
Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the
Planning Comnission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431
University Avenue Northeast on Wednesday, November 28, 1984
in the Council Chamber at 7:30 P.M. for the purpose of:
Consideration of a request for a Special Use Permit,
SP # 84-24, by Robert Schroer, per Section 214,07, l,
of the Fridley Sign Ordinance, to allow an automatic
changeable sign on Lot 1, Block 1, East Ranch Estates,
the same being Bob's Produce Ranch at 7620 University
Avenue N.E.
Any and e11 persons desiring to be heard shall be given an opportunity
at the above stated time and place.
VIRGINIA SCHNABEL
CHAIRWOMAN
PLANNING COMMISSION
Publish: November 12, 1984
November 19, 1984
33
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CITY OF FRIOLEY�
iq�7 tJNIVEASITY AVE N6.
fRiCLEY. NiN. SZO�E q'121571-i450
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ISUBJECT
SPECIAL USE PERMIT
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PLANNING COM�115S10N: APPROYED DIS�PPROYED DATE N0.
CITY COUNCIL: . APPROVED DISAPPROYED DATE NO
STIPULATIONS:
STREET LOLATION OF PROPERTY 7G.2 U
LEGAL DESCRIP7ION OF PROPERTY �� /
lFEE o� v RECEIPT NO 9�
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PRESENT ZONING CLASSIFICATION EXISTING USE OF PROPERTY
ACREAGE OF PROPERTY DESCRIBE BRIEFLY THF bPECIAL USE APPLIED FOR:
� �-�, � �..-,�.� .�-� •
Section of the Code: (fL�y�" ��e7 /
_-T -, _
Has the present applicant previously sought to rezone, ptat, oDtain a lot split or
variance or special use permit on the subject site or part of it? _�yes no.
What was requested and wNen?
The undersigned understands that: (a) A list of all residents and owners of proner-
ty within LOQ feet wi�l be attached to this application. ..
�. ' " � �• '(b) This application must be signed
Dy a11 owners of the property, or an exp7anation �jiven why this is not the case.
(c) Responsibility for any Jefect in the proceedings resulting from the failure to
• list the names a�d addresss of all residents and property owenrs of propRrty in
question. belongs to the undersigned.
A sketch of proposed property and structure must be drawn and attached, showing the
follorring: 7. North direction. 2. Location of the p�oposed structure on the lot.
3. Dimensions of property, proposed structure, and fron and side setbacks. 4. Street
nnmes. 5. Location and use of adjacent existin9 buildings (within 350 feet).
The undersigned hereby declares that all
this application are true and Correct.
OATE �/I� ��'j� SIGNATURE�
the facts and respresentations stated in
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MAILING LIST
SP �84-24 Robert Schroer
Robert Schroer
76Z0 University Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Win Stephan's Datsun North
7810 University Avenue N.E.
Fridley> Mn 55432
Fridley Development, Inc.
c/8 T. E. 7roy
5601 Green Ualley Drive
Minneapolis, Mn 55427
Town Crier
7730 University Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Capp Model Homes & 0ffices
Evans Products Co.
7710 University Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Kennedy Transmission
7700 University Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
G. W. Paschke
7970 University Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Continenal Oil Company
7600"University Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Cub, Inc.
Drawer A
Stillwater, Mn 55082
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A represeciztive of Frank,'s Nursn�y addrrsscd thc Coun[il and said th=y
had requested 1�2 square feet rot 100 as app��r's ir th? hcading of the item.
He said t��e onty rcason thcy were acked to gn to the subcer:-aittee was becausc
there y:es a twtation in the past �in�otes oi Li:z C�ur.til thzt t.h2re woald be
no zd�iiional si,ns in this area in Lhe futcre. Hr furLl�,^r peinted e�t thet
tiie [oc,n�r•; woold be ailo::cd a si9n 2C0 squ::re fect on this wall. lie SaiJ
this hould be pl�ced wer th= entren:e to thc bai`�in�.
htayor Liebl asY.zd if tLcy w_re plarning const.ru�ticn in this arca this year
and ti�,t re,resentative sr.id yes. i�,ayor Li `�1 �s�nd if this �r�s tl�r s=cc�nd
business at *his loc�tien z��d the reFresent,:tive sr.iC yes. Coo^.ei'ran Breidrr
Said hr ic�did h�vc no 0'uj��ctiun to cizn�iny tie r��uest iro�:. 1:%% Lo i�2�feet.
I1UiIC:; by Coor�cilmar� GrciL,r ;o tp:rrvr t!;c rcqurst icr ihc cons,rc:tio� n`
thP v;�li Siyu t0 6c 132 Sy::_ii fi-P!. 5eC^o-'od b)' Lc',.nCilr.an Ct:cr. Up�n d
voice vote, all votir..� oye, i'mycr Lieol drelared the rution ccrried unai:i:�:owly.
F REQUEST FO�; h i'A1;��.';�' GF S�CT1Q'; 70;.053. SC. FCIJIFY L1TY C�f�F._ TO CIDUCF
THL f�� I. 1�:-,rli ��i `. �� f- 1�''"� �' '�. �N S[FT 'i(I 13 F�LT iJ %1! L� IL'_C(r,�.
STh �1 j" P' �. �::'flli- ��i i��t ;-�-cfnr�-i..:E li"nf�.:i �': irl :.f'� CI IiIF
OF ThE 5:.. O? . if":.-'�. :i.�r�T T� �;lr �.,0 F�rr`i I.°1' '��-CT Ihi hn�i
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The P�blic ::or;s L'iri��to� said tt;• r��.;��.��st ��-� tn r..^oce the � �� q�sc seth�:f.
from 15 fcet to '3.G? fect. i;c s:=id L��is re_.:est �.:,: R:.C? by i:no'�.� Cr.:�.ty far
the [CrSU'cctiu,� 0! :he a,::litio�i to Lhe ice i��.ec;.
F10TIG;; by Lo:v,c�ii..;n Pt�.er to cnr,ecr eiti�� tle rea ��n?:::i�� o' t^.. G�z-d of
Appeals esd a��pruce ti�e variaco�. S,:on,eA h•:� Lun���,il; en Sttnalt. Up�n a
voi�e 4ctc, all ��ot;r; a;" F',a,or LieLl decl re;, ti��e rotion carried unanir..eucly.
A:Oi10:� ��y Coun-i?��zn L'lter te r�c^i•ue the nii�;tcs :f the F^.�rd cf l.p;�eals
Scbcac�iittFe ;'.<e-�ing o°, Se�t^��L=� 10, 7970.. Secnr4;d b�, Coonci!nar Stan:al?.
Upor z voice vete, all votiro z��, ::.�ur LiC.I decl�rcd the r.?t�on carried �n;.��ic:?,isly.
RCCEIPI:_i I1�: �'[`,�TCS ?i 1NE ^t:' ; Cl'•'11SS'Of; NFETit!S �i SiTTP:'.�2 11, 197�:
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Tl��e Public H�r:s Oir«Lar icid the ectior�, v:o-„la be to s••t �. p��blic ��^rri�•g. P,^
further m:plainc;l +'��e cev=7ep_r v:o�1C like b::s F_��blic Yct:�ina �:t Ue s,j°.� t'�.,:�
as th�� pul•lic i�,earina e:, ti.e ins�cil�tion o+ U-.e o:biic utilities a:id ti,e e>-•r+.
date of ihis is not kna��m si tht pres�nt tune.
4i0TI0Y, bp Loor.rlmjn Ereidcr to set the p;;:'lic hearin9 as anzr�ed 6� the builC2r
and develo;�er or t��c Kice Cree4. Ezta.es. Sr•cendva by CounciL�.�n U:.ter. ��pon a
coice ��ote, all voting xye, !dayor Liebl declarad tr.r ne:ion carried uwn�mnusly.
HC:.aI`:"u: CO;SID[R4T:OI; OF 1. EC'N[;::.? ¢[�UEST: ZOf. `74-04, CY HE';.°.Y F.
TO t:�Z��;'_ ��:'_ ,7 (i. � J �6TS i 1. ::-f: /. -`:Vri!,S 6�OOY. G::::'.—
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TU i.Ll'h� TI ��.. i.� '.,. fv p �:;I [ F_..L U Ci l: � C�' L � Sl F.'ID 3�,
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The Public Vm��s Uir?ctor said this w_s ceatin_��G to 9i•+^_ the applicant sorr.e tii.�e
and there is no action necessary at tiie present time.
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REGUUIR COUtiLIL I7EETIF;G OF JULY 1, 1974
RECEIYIY,G TNL NICUTES OF TNE I3D%.RD OF kFPEALS tiCET1YG OF JUN[ 25 14)4:
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FATIO"1 Dy Councili^�n Starrialt to approve the variances as requested by Strite-
Anderscn for the tonstruction c` an addition cnto the er.istin� Luilding lucated on
Parcel 2750, Y,orth F':ji of Sectior. 12, the sace tein9 1565 Viron Road IL E., vith
tlie stipulation that bua,pers or posts be installed along the Luilding. Secor.Aed
6y Councilran Utter.
Councilr.an 6reider recalled the q��estion of the parking area rrithin the ninutes
of thz Subco;;:r�iticc and a51:ed if thiy uould b: a problem. Ile asLed with the
additien of this are3 wuuld this rect code require�2nts. Ne sWted this rrould bc
a 19,009 square foot addition.
The City Manager szid this had Lcen brought tu th^ Administration's attention.
Councilnnn Star�:alt stated the pari:inn would bc three stalls short, but the firn
has tbrce shifts working, and this r:ould be no problm.
bWyor liebl asl�.ed it there ��as anyonz present from Strite-Anderson.
A representative of Strite-nnCer;un addresscd the Council and explained thcre are
thrcc shifts, five Jzys a��ieeP.. f{e said thcy �iou]d be threc stalls shm•t: thrs
rer,uired amo�nt is 171, and Lhcrc �ieuld be 163 prcvided. He said t�ith tihe type
of operxtion, they ��ould not ce,�,�e ctose 20 115103 CI115 amour.i of space.
UFO.! A VOICE YOTE, atl voting aye, Yayur Liebl declared the r.�otiun carried �
unaninously. .
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REGUUIR COUNLIL MEETING OF MAY 20, 1974
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is completed. Seconded by Councilman Utter. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye,
Hayor Liebl dxiared the motion carried unanimously..
MOT]Oh by Louncilman Nee to concur with tAe recocmendation of the Board of Appea7s
and approve the variances as requested by Joe Paaers for 4544 2nd Street N. E.
Szconded by Council�ran Utter. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, �fayor liebl
declared the motion carried unaninously,
►i0TI0N 6y Councilman Nee to concur with the recoamendation d tbe Board of Ap�als
and approve the variances, Seconded by Councilman Breider for discussion. �
Louncilman Bre?der said �e fiad one question concerning the approval of the
variance, His questiors concerned the recarmended stipulation that a garage door
opener be installed. He qucsiioned what woutd be tbe point in requiring this
installation at the Dresent tine, what assurances would tAe Council have that
it would be used ur what would happen if it was broken.
Councilman Nee said he did r�oi consider this stiDulation a part of his motion and
Ae did not feel strongly that this should be installed. He said he would };ke to
make it possible for the applicant to build the garage. He pointed out this is
a very narrow lut and is difficult to work with. lie added, if Lhe applicant wants
to put in the door opener, fine, but ha did not consider this a part of the motion.
UPON A VOICE YOTE, a11 voting aye, Mayor Liebl declarc-0 the motion carried
unanimously.
Mayor Liebl read the stipulations recam�ended by the Board of Appeals.
Councilman Utter asked if Mr. Schrocr planned to take do.�n the wagon and what
he intended to put up after this. :•;r. Schroer said the smaller lettering a•ould
be taken fromthe siyn and larger lettering would read "The Ranch".� He said
this would be�the sign that faces University Avenue.
4'ATION by Counci}�-an Breider to approve the request for the variances as requested
by Mr. Robert Schroer with the three stiDuiations recomnended by the Board of -
ADDeals. Seconded Gy Councilman Stan+alt. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye,
Mayor Liebl declared the motion carried unanimcusly. .
M0T]ON by Louncilman Utter to receive the minutes of the Board of Appeats Subcomnittee
meeting of ?7ay 14, i974. Seconded b,y Co�ncilman Breider. Upor, a voice vote, aIl votirg
aye, Mayor Lfebl declared the motion carried unanimously.
RECEIYI�lG THE H;NUTES Of THE LHARTER C0;4•1ISSI071 HEETING OF APRIL 16 1974:
MOTION by LouncS]Ran Breider to rxeivz the minutes of the Lharter Cortmission Meeting
of April 76, 7974. Seconded by [nunci]man Utter.
CITY OF FFIICLEY.
6491 UNiVEASITY AvE. NE.
Fii10lEY. MN. 6�32 (6121,57'{-346G
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SUBJECT ZONING ACTION ZOA S
VACATION �SAV N `h4—C(t
PLAT PS N
ORDINANLE NO PUBLISHED
ADDRESS DATE
PIANNING COMMISSION: APPROVED DISAPPROVED DATE N0.
CITY fAUNCII: PUBLIC HEARIN6 DATE 15T READ 2ND REAO
CITY COUNCIL: APPROVED DISAPPROVED DATE NO
PARK fEE REQUIRED:
STIPULATIONS:
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STREET LOCATION Of PROPERTY
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fEE ��tl �� RECEIPT NO t���
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LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF PROPERTY ( r� :� "• r' C` l' � r'� % =- � `" �''' "' �
PRESENT ZONING CLASSIFICATION EXISTING USE �F PROPERTY
ACREAGE OF PROPERTY DESCRIBE BRIEFLY THE PROPOSED ZONING CLASSIFICATION
OR TYPf OF USE AND IMPROVEMENT PROPOSED �
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Has the present applicant previously sought to rezone, plat, obtain a lot split or
variance or special use permit on the subject site or part of it? _yes ✓ no.
What was requested and when?
The undersigned understands that: (a) A list of all residents and owners of proper-
ty within 350 feet must be attached to this application (rezoning), 300 feet, (plat-
ting), wjllbe aitached to'this 8pp1`ication. '(b) This application must be signed
by atl vwners of the property, or an explanation [�iven why this is not the case.
(c) Responsibility for any defect in the proceedings resulting from the failure to
• list the names and addresss of all residents and property owenrs of prop�rty in
question, belongs to the undersigned.
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A sketch of proposed property and structure must 6e drawn and atitached, showing the
following: 1. North direction. 2. Location of the proposed structure on the 1ot.
3. Dimensions of property, proposed structure, and fron and side setbacks. 4. Street
names. 5. Location and use of adjacent existing buildings (within 350 feet).
7he undersi�ned hereby declares that all the facts and respres ntations stated in
this application are true and correct.
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The 19E2 State Legislature passed a statute requiring surface water management of all
land in the metropolitan area. This legislation formulated the Six Cities watershed
Management Organization which together With the Rice Creek Watershed District,
encompassed the surface water mana9ement for all of the City of Fridtey. The intent
I of this legislation is to manage the surface water quality and quantity of runoff.
Recent develop�ents in the City have been required to establish surface water detention
ponds and filtration systems. Many of tnese ponds are or have become the City's
resUonsibilit� to maintain and Ope{ate.
Our storm water system� is not compiete, but much of that which has been implaced is
twent}' years old. ACCOrdinqly, the required mdin[enance Of the storm water syster,� will
increase in the years ahead.
Maintenance of the storm wdter infrastructure includes the inspection, cleaning, patching,
repairing and small scale construction necessary to keep the facilities oaerating at
an acceptable service level. The greatest �eturn on the maintenance dollar comes through
spending to keeD a system in top shape preventing the initial deterioration which may
lead to System replacement. Our new construCtion projeCts are funded through assessment withou�
separate identification of necessary preventative maintenance funding. In order tc yrovide a
clear di5tinction between new Capacity of new System construct�on, it is necessar� t� identify
a source for the maintenance budget separately.
Tnis year the City of Roseville established a storm water drainage utility. It is Gosed
upon the concept of requiring those parcels of land that contriDute to storm water runoff,
based upon the intensity of development, contributing a fair share to the mainte❑once of the
storm water system. Richfield is currently i,n the process of adopting a similar t�pe of
�t;�ity.
Based upon the present and future need for maintaining and operating a storm water system
within the City of Fridley, it would be appropriate for the Council to adopt a sturr,water
drainage utility ordinanCe, which could be administered similar to Our utility fund and
billed quarterly with our water Dilling. This utitity would be based upon feES cnarged to
categories of tand use based upon the intensity of stortr water runoff. A SupG>imentary
policy would provide for fee adjustments for positive actions taken to manage tne storm
a:ater quality and quantity on site. The funds generated would be earmarked for continueC
Memo To: N.Qureshi, City Manager
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PW 109-84 11/7/84
Page 2
maintenance of our existing and future storm water system and provide necessary capital
so that the infrastructure could be retained at a satisfactory level without special
taxes or assessments.
Recomnend the Council consider this proposal. If this is supported, I would reconmend an
informative notice be mailed to the residents of Fridley and a public hearing held to insure
everyone was aware of what we were attempt�ng to do and how it would be accomplished.
JGF:jmo
Enclosure
D��FT'
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AN CS2DINAN(E REODDIFYII� Zf3E FRIDLEY CITY C1�DE BY ADDPl'IIQ;
A Ig3� Q3AP�'ER 216 F2�rI'ZTLID "S'It�Rt�l S•TATEEt DFAII�U�GE UTII,ITY"
'1HE CITY OJ[JNCIL OF 'II-IE CITY OF FRIDLEY DOES ORLY.IN AS FCA,L,aPS:
216.01. 5'lURM [JATER DRAINAGE UTII,ITY FSTABLISHID
The municipal storm sewer systen shall be operated as a public utility
pucsuant to hiinnesota Statutes, Section 444.075 fron which revenues wilt be
derived subject to the provisions of this Chapter and Atinnesota Statutes. The
storri water drainage utility will be �rt of the public works departr:ient and
under the administration of the public works director.
216.02. DEFINITIONS
Re�idential Fquivalent Factor, (REF) .— �' ��l � I�EF i� • G�in.. / � �
�'he ratio of the average vol�a�e of rimoff generated Uy one (1) acre of a given
land use to the average volwie of rwioff generateci by one (1) acre of typical
single fanily residential land, during a st�.ndard one (1) ��ear r4infa1l event.
216.03. I,AAID USE Q,ASSIFICATION
Tl�e REF values for various land uses are as follows:
CZIL�SIFICI�.TI01] I,Fu� L'SFS
1 Cezeteries, golf oourses, g3r1s
2 Parks with paved Farking facilities
3 Single fanily and duplex residential
4 Public and private schools, oor,miunity
center
5 rlultiple far,iily resioential, churches
and goverrunental buildings
6 Cor.u�ercial, industrial properties
7 Ir,iproved vacant
2J.6.04. S'IORM T4ATER DRAINPGE FEE
RF.F'
0.25
0.75
1.00
1.25
2.50
5.00
as assic�ed
For the purpose of calculating storm watec drainage fees, all developed one
family and duplex psrcels shall be considered to have an acreage of one-third
(1/3) acre. The storm water drainage rate shall be S�II pez quarter per
REF-acre. 4 ,�
216.05. (ItIDITs
4he Council r,ay adopt policies re�nded by the public works director, by
resolution, for adjustnent of the storm water d�ainage fee for parcels based
upon hydrologic data to be supplied by property owners, which data
denonstrates a hydrologic response substantially diffecent fror.� the standaiu..
Such adjustnents of storm water drainage fees shall not be nade retroactively.
I�
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216.06. £J�7•SPfZONS
Zhe follaaing land uses are exa-ipt fron storn water drainage fees:
A. Public Rights of way.
B. Vacant, tmir,pcoved land with gcound cover.
216.07. PAYNIEt7P OF FEE
State�ents for stocr.i water drainage fee shall be computed every three (3)
r.anths and invoiced by the finance de�rtment for each account on or about the
tenth ilOth) day of the nonth follaaing the quarter. Such statenent shall be
due on or before the last day of the nonth in which the statement is nailed.
Any prepaynent or werpaynent of charges shall be retained by the City and
applied against subsequent quarterly fees.
216,08. RECALQJLATZON OF FEE
If a property a�mer or person responsible for p3��ing the storr,� water draina9e
fee yuestions the correctness of an invoice for such charge, such person may
have the determination of the charge reconputed by written request to the
public �rorks director rade within twelve (12) months of nailing of the invoice
in question by the City.
216.09. Pf3dL�LTY FDR LATE PA]TTEKP
Each quarterly billing for storm water drainage fees not paid when due shall
incur a penalty charge of ter �ccent (10€} of the arount �ast due.
216.10. C�PIFICATION OF PAS'I' IX]E FEFS ON TFil�S
Any p3st due storm water drainage fees in excess of ninety (90) days past due
on October 1 of any year nay be certifieo to the County Auditoc foc collecton
with real estate taxes in the following year pursuant to Iiinnesota Statutes,
Section 449.075, Subdivision 3. In addition, the City shall also have the
ric,ht to bring civil action or to take other legal re�edies to collect uny�iu
fees,
PASSED A::D ADpF':'ED BY ?i-IE CIi7' �UtJCIL OF 1HE CITY OF FF;IDLEY TI-iIS DAY
OF , 1984
i+TII.LIAi�t J. IlEE - �rAYOR
ATI'f5'i :
SIDi�1' C. II�Il1Atd - QTY C[.ERK
STORM HATER DTILITY
TYPICNL IHPEROIOUS PERCSNT
Residential: Typical Lot and Hou�e
6
II., General Multiple
, Family
III. Commerclal
IV. Industrial
Impervious: House
Drive
Patio, Deck
Sidevalk, etc.
Total Area:
7,020
900
300
2,220
..
S Improved - 2,220/9,000 = 24.6¢ +/- 25�
Lot Area Improved Percentage
Locatioa Sq. FL. Area Improved
910 Lynde Drive
5700 Polk Street
990 Lynde Drlve
1679 - 73rd Ave.
5865 University
5831 University
7362 University
760D University
7321 Commerce Ln
1305 - T2nd Ave.
7290 - 73rd Ave.
7585 Viron Road
Schools Hayes Eleaentary
Stevenson Elem.
Woodcrest Elem.
Northpark Elem.
Government Buildings
Fridley Library
Columbia Arena
City Garage
CLurchea Roslyn Park Iies.
Frldley Hethodist
Valley View Chr.
Church of Christ
1/7/84 CVM
l6/6I3
21,175
27,250
22,200
55,u40
71,21�1
�3,925
6,864
29,775
Mean
�
16,t25 t5,820
35,620 32,7u5
79,200 59,500
36,750 28,500
Mean =
50,400
t16,580
99,180
251,600
37,a6o
99,38�
87,250
z33�zoo
Mean
e
449,880 139,400
598,500 198,000
283,t�0 97,200
3�1,000 8�J,200
llean =
61,640 34,765
475,150 330,150
�83,0�0 272,650
Mean -
26,000
77 , 625
iz6,uoo
zo,000
12,850
52,200
28,500
13,400
Hean
d
53�
66�
31�
54;
5L� +/- 50�
98%
92�
758
78S
B5.T54 r/- BS$
T 5�
85�
6 B;
93�
85.25� +/- 85f
31x
33�
3u�
�LS°<
30•75� +/- 30$
65�
69�
44�
59.33� +/- 60$
49S
67f
23�
6�z
5i.5oz +i- so�
n/, �7 F �
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CITY POLICY
STORM fiATER DRAINAGE ATILITY
��
Credits and/or adjustments of municipal storm xater drainage fees.
P� �� � .
• The municipal storm water drainage utility utilizes a fee structure based on the
• anticipated relative contribution of storm drainage runoff voluaes to the storm
vater drainage system. A parcels contribution is determined by that parcels size
and its land use, under the principal that more intensively developed land uses
typically have a larger percentage of impervious surface and contribute a much
greater volume of water and/or sedimentfautrient loadings to the system.
It is recognized that some parcels, due either to their unique topographic,
vegetative, geologic and other characteristics, have a hydrologic and
sedimentlnutrient loading response substantially different from that of similarly
sized parcels of the same land use.
To provide for an equitable assessnent of storm dralnage fees, based on
reasonably expected contribution of f1oWS and sedinent/nutrients, provisions are
hereby made to permit adjustments or credits to the storm dralnage fees for those
parcels with unique or unusual characteristics.
Existence or construction of on site storm drainage control, detention or
retention facilities Cy themselves are not eligible for storm xater drainage fee
credit andlar adjustment uithout complying rrith the procedure set forth in this
policy. In addition to continued maintenance and repair of these facilities it
is equally important to provlde necessary xater quality controls in order to be
eligible for any credit and/or ad,justment.
• � • y �r+l
The basis of the City of Fridley's storm uater drainage fees is the anticipated
rel2tive contribution of storm water voluc�es and sediment/nutrient loadings to
the storm drainage system from a given parcel. Where unique or unusual
conditions exist that the actual contributions of uater volume and
sediment/nutrient loadings from a given parcel are substantially dlfferent from
those anticipated by the storm drainage fee structure, the public works director
or his designate may adjust or credit the storm drainage fee for said parcel to
an appropriate level in accordance xith Lhe guidelines specified herein.
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pIt is the res onsibility of the property oWner or his agent to present to
the public %orks �rector or his designate, sufficient information concerning a
parcels hydrologic characteristics to permit an accurate assessment of the
conditions that exist. This information may include, but is not limited to:
A. Site plan shouing locations of all buildings and other development
relative to lot lines at 50 scale.
B. The total lot area and area of impervious surfaces.
C. Site topography or contours of sufficient detail to ascertzin flou
directions, rates and volumes.
D. Size, details and/or vol�etric characteristics of any drainage control
facilities.
E. Hydraulic calculations specif�jing outfloW volumes and rates for various
rainfall events.
-� .H- i �. :� ..� � -� .�� ..,.
_ �.. .
Nhere the unit runoff generated Dy a parcel Ciffers from the assigned amount
for Chat land use category by more than 205, the Public Wor4:� D�!``" � may
adjust the parcels storm water drainage fee in accordance with the foilouing
procedure:
A. Calculation of unit runoff for the parcel shall be determined by the
methods outlined in the Soil Conservation Service Technical Release No. 55,
u[ilizing a 2" total rainfall amount and antecedant moisture condition II.
B. If calculated unit runoff is shown to differ from the assigned amount
for that land use category by 20$ or more, the numDer of assigned REU's for
that parcel shall be adjueted by multiplying by the ratio of the calculated
unit runoff to the standard unit runoff.
C. A parcels storm vater drainage fee shall be subject
as decreases by this procedure.
Ont� av,: �%+.�,�y �.,�//,..f
D. Because siag}e family and.du�2FR fees are �y based
acreage, no adjustments for unit runoff differences will
land uses.
to increases as well
upon actual parcel
be made for those
., ., .
.,,,.
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A parcel may De credited for up to fifty (50$) percent of the storn water
drainage fee for onsite measures which are oxned and maintained by the 2pplicant Ghc�
vhich effectively reduce the outflow of sediment/nutrients from the site. Credit
percentage shall be based on one-half of the actual percentage of sediment
removal efficiency, as determined by the following procedure, rounded to the
nearest Sx; except that no credit will be given for sediment removal efficiencies
oP less than 205.
�- •� -. .,.-
A. Determine total site acreage and percent of site that has an
improved or impervious surface.
B. Calculate the annual depth of r�noff from the folloxing equation:
D� = P f.75 �+.15)-5.23u f.25-.1875 IID).597
Where Dr = annual depth of runoff in inches.
�= percent of site impervious area, expressed as a decimal.
�= annual depth of precipitation = 29 inches
C. Calculate annual volume of runoff in acre-feet:
�annual = gite acreage x Dr/ 12
D
E
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Determine pond capacity below outlet elevation in acre-feet.
Calculate capacity infloW ratio (CIR), 1iHERE:
CIR _ pondiag capacity / vannual
Read sediment recoval efficiency froa follorring graph:
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0
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CAPACI7Y INFLOW Q�T10 � �[rt�7artl �Jp
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BRUNE�S TRAP EFFICIENCY CURVE
G. Credit = S sediment removal efficiency/2 x storm drainage fee.
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A parcel may be credited for up to 25i of the storm vater drainage fee for
onsite measures which limit storm water outflow rates from the site in accordance
uith the following procedure:
A. 10� credit for parcels which limit peak outflov rates during a 5-year
rainfall event to predevelopment rates.
H. No detention credit�xill be given for parcels which do not limit 5-year
event outflox rates to predevelopment levels.
C. Additional 15f credit for parcels which 11mit peak outflou rates during
a 100-year rainfall event to predevelopment rates. (Based on the rational
method of runoff analysis. Predevelopment condition sha11 be considered to
have a rational "C" value of 0.2. Time of concentration shall be no
shorter than 30 min.). r
DiV� Fr./L C✓.c��' t✓i//� 5�../.� T. fw�-c.jj ...1r�.1, c��.i.f %i�i'�" /�-y�.�..
ri�P o.n�fl.... �tf� N .!!Ci:(i��t�/�.r� (iti�lJ�_.,.._
�5%
. r-.- .� -�. -. :. - -�
The Public SJorks Director reserves the right to Snspect periodically all
storm drainage control facilities to ascertain that they are operating properly.
Sf such a system, due to improper maintenance or other reason, fails to detain or
cleanse storm Water runoff in an effective manner, the Qirector may eliminate or
reduce uater quality or detention credits to an appropriate level. Any such
facility shall not be eligible to apply for storm drainage fee adjustments for a
period of 12 months following any credit adjustment. Credit adjustments shall
not be made retroactively.
The issuance of any building perciit or other action which changes or intensifies
an existing land use shall be cause for an adjustment of storm water drainage
fees to an appropriate level.
.�i
CHAPTER N0. 216 OF THE FRIDLEY CZTY CODE.
6/2/76
54
CZT1 OF ROSEVILLL
pRDI�A2:CE N0.
* • * ► * • *
AN ORDItiANCE ADDI\G CH7.PTER 74 TO THE CITY CODE OF TI?E
CITY OF ROSEVILLE ESTABLISfiI\G A STORI�i IJATER DRAINAGE UTS�.I:"_ .
The City Council of the City of Roseville does hereb��
ordain:
I.
The City Code of the Cit}� of Roseville is ar.encec b;� au�.r.c
a new Chapter 74, to read as :ollows:
74. STQR:•1 S•:iaTER DRnI;�AG� L'TILIT�
74.010. Stor.^..tlater Drainaoe L'ti1=t7 Establishcd. Thc
municipal storr.. sewer syste:r. snal be operated as a publ-c
ut_l,t}• �urscant to :Sinn. Stat. Sect:on 444.0-� '_roc, wn:cn
re��er.ues will be derived sub;ect to the provisions o: t�.s
Ch��cer sr.d '•finnesota statutes. ::ie storc: water �'r:=^a:�
ut_litl �•ill be par: of tne public works Ce��rt-_�nt an:: un��r
tne ac;.:.in:straticn of the �ubl:c wor::s director.
7.7.020. Def:^i.t'_ons.
(1) Resz�er.tial ecuivalect facto:, {fL,�T.') - One (!? Y.L�
is de:ineo as tne ra��o oi tn� averaqe volcce o:
rn�o=_' generated by one (1) acre of a gi:•en l�r.�
use to the averace volur„e of runo" e+e�erateci bs
one (1) acre o° typical single fa:�,ilp resider.t.al
lan�, duzinq a standard one (1? year rai.^.:all e+:ent.
i4.030. Stern t:ater Drainaae Fees. Stor^ water cra�_r.� ;�
fees for Yarcels o_ lanc sra 1 DE determined bf mult-:l.�:r.=
t`�e REF `or a parcel'S la^c use by the Qarcel's acreage a�.c
tizen r..cltirlyine the resulting proc:ct by th2 storc. water
drair.age zate. T'r.e REF values _'or various lar.c uses ar�: a>
c..s,,.
Ci.iSS1:�.l..a�: 1�.�
1
2
3
Y
S
j..n\a7 i%�JTS
Ce;,.eteries, aol: co��rses
Par;s with par!:ing `acilities
Sincle famil}� and dupler.
residential
Public anc: pri�.�ate scnools,
cor._ unit, center
:3ult:�le far..ily residential,
cnurcnes and co:•err.-ental
b;:i'_.iings
r�T '
O.L�
0.��
1.00
2.�G
55
6 Co:vnercial, incustrial,
warehovse S.CJ
7 In,proved vacant as ass:c�c:
For the purpose of calculating stor� water drainage fees, all
developed one fa:,ily an: duplex parcels s�.all 6e considered to
have an acreage Of one-third (1/3) aCrE, i�lG rAC—� w�/-� o'�a•^•��c
��..+� 1u.�c� be �i3.eo ar. yrc.,i� �,�� �tf tt�G .
74.040. Credits. The Council may adopt policies reco:r^er,3ed
by the public worxs director, b}• resolztion, £or adjust^.er.c of
' the storm water drainaqe fee for parcels based upon hpdrolo�.ic
data to be sup�lied by pro�erty owners, which data de:^onstrates
� a hydrologic response su,.�'-stantially diFferent fron the st�.^.��r::s.
Such adjust:�ents of storri water cra�naoe fees sh�ll r.ot be r..adc
retroactively.
79.050. Exe-�ticns. The followir.a lanc uses arc esec.�:. `_ro-�
storn water drainace zees.
(a} Public Rig'r.ts o` way.
(b) Vacant, un'_-�:ovec land with crcuac co•.�er.
74.Q6o. Pa�;-.eat o` Fee. Sta�e^r^ts `or stor^. wn��r cr�_r.:.,e
fee shall be co-�cte❑ a�• �rj t.`.ree (3) mor.t^s ar.c ... _c�c b� the
finar.ce de:=artr.ent `o_ eac!: acco.:r.t on o: abe.:t the _'1`th (5�h)
e'ay o: the r..onth fo:io�i.^.q the cua:ter. S�vcn stat_:�en: .,:,a:l be
due on or befo:e the last caJ oi tne rooath _n whicn thc• stat��^ent
is nailec. F,np pze�a;^.en: or o�;�rra;�-er.t o: c`�a:�:es sr,��l be re-
tainec by the City a^c a:pl.ec acainst subsec�er.t :;a�rterl;� fees.
74.070. Recalcc:at_o^ o: Fee. I° a property c•.:aer or re°son
responsible `or na}•iac tne sto:�. water dzainage `ee ycest_cr:s
the correctness of ar. _..•:o_ce ?or sueh enarge, sucn �c-so� ;..ay
ha�•e the detenr,iaat'_,,.. o'_ the charce reco^� ted by wr_tter. :ec�est
to the public wor:s ,:lrecter ^ace withi.^, t'�el•�e (12? -.or.t:s o'
railing of the invo_ce in cuestion by the City.
74.0"00. Penalt:• `or Lat=_ Pa•:r.er.t. Eacn cuarte_11 bi_�_^c _`or
ster:� wa.er cza:nace '_ees not �a�d unen d�.:e shail iac,:: a�,e^�1:;'
charge oi ten Yerce^t (;0=) of the a-�ount past c•,:e.
74.090. Cer:i_°ication o` Past Due Fees ora ,ax.es. ;:n� cast
due stor� water dra:nage iees in excess o: n_neLy �5G) ca;�s :as*_
due on October 1 0= any year may be cer�i_'ied to the Cc,;n:;• ;:c�lccr
fcr cellect_�n �.uith real estate taxes in the followir.y p�_ar � r-
sua.^.t to :•iinn. Stat. Section 444.07�, SubZ'_vision 3. Ir, �cc_c_c::,
ttie City snall also nave the rig::t to brir.c a civil ac u on or t.,
ta;:e oth=r lecal re^:edies to collect un.aid fees.
II.
'?'his Orc'_r.::nce s�aii be in full °orce and e"_ect f_ �r.. ar.c :.'_ _^_r
its �:ssace ar.� publica=:ar,.
CITY POLICY
TzTr.�
Credits and/or adjustr,.ents of munici�al stor:� water drainage fe��s.
BACi:GROUD:D STATE'•fENT
The municipal storm water drainage utility utili2es a fee struc:ure
based on the anticipated relative contribution of storm drainage
runoff volumes to the storm water drainage system. A parcels contri-
bution is deternined by that parcels size and its land use, ur.der :he
principal that more intensively developed land uses typicall}� ha�•e a
larger percentage of im�ervious surface and contribute a m.uc� crcat-
er volume of water anc/or sediment/nutrient loadings to the slstcr,.
It is zecognized that so:�e parcels, due either to their un.�ue toro-
g:aphic, vegetative, geoiogic and other characteristics, or th� exis-
tance and mair.tenance of onsite stos-� drainaqe centrel, det�r,c_or., or
retention facilities have a hydrolocic and sedinent;nntrient lo��ina
response substantially dif`erent fron that of siril�rls si�cc ;a.cels
of the sa:�e land use.
To provide for an equitable assess^ent o` stor� crainac-e `ees, basec
on reasonably expected contribution o: `lous and sed,^,ent,�^�tr�ents,
provisions need to be made to rer-.it acj�st-.ents or crec;:ts to thc
storn drainage .ees fo. those parcels with unicue or un.:su�l c��rac-
ter-s:ics.
PCL?CY ST:,:E:1E::T
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':ac basis o_° the City o_° Rose�•ille's sto:-c: water dr�:ns�:c �c•_s is the
an�.c:�ated relat�ve ccr,criD'1t-0❑ O� 5[G=C. KdtC: ':cic-.�s �:�.c s�:...-.�t/
r,utrient loa;;ir..s to tne storr.. cra:naae s;�s:er., :r�, a c:': -r. ; �=c='= •
Lihere unicne or unusv�l cond:tior,s e>:ist whcre the actc�l co^c__UU-
tions of water �'ol.::�:e ar.d sedi-ent/nutrient loac-r.�s `:cc �, c_r�n
oarcel are substant_a:11 di"erer:t `or-. thcse a^:ic::.�te� ::r _.._ =torn
drainage fee structure, the public wor�:s cirecter o: h.s des�--.a:c- ra=
aciust or crecit the st::r^ cra=^a�e fee ior saici ;arc�1 to �:. -_ .,-
pr.ate level in accor�ar.ce wit': the au_deli^es spec.'_.ec :.____...
PRGCT'7�nE STaiE':E1T
(1) Prcperty 0•..ner to Pro�•ifle Detz:lec I.^,`or�.ac:cr.
It is the res�onsibility o: t`�e prcpertf owne* o= .`.-, �-cr:= =_
preser.t to tne pcbl;c works „_rector or his aesi�nat^_, s'�'" ---..� -.•-
for^atien eoncerning a pareels h}•cro'_oc_c c:araccar_stic= cc _.___
an acc�rate assess-�ent o: the con�itioas ..hat er.:st. ':n_s ic=crr,�-
tion r..ay incluce, but is no: li^.ite� to:
A. Site plan sno�ir.a locat.or,s c_ al'_ b;:ildings ar.c oti:�:
de�•elo�-:er.t relat_•:e to lot 1'_r.es.
S. The total lot area anc area o`_ ir..�ezvious sur`_a:es.
C. Site topocra�h}' or conto�ars o`_ su'_'icient ceta-: �c =_---'
tain °low dizectio�s, rates anc ��e1.::-.es.
D. Size, c'etails ar.c/or vcI•,:.^etr'_c c:srac _=_ris�: cs o` ar.'.'
nrainage contrcl �acilit:es.
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E. Hydraulic calculations sgecifying out`low ��olti-:es a.._.
rates for vaz:��s _al:.�aii e�•ancs.
(2) AdjLSt,^.Pr.ts tlhere Parcel Runo"_ Is Siani:icantl�• Di°Sc-•.^�
Froa Lar.o [;se Standa:d
i;heze the unit runoff aenerated by a parcel differs frcT. �-_
assigned amount for that land use cataaor}� by more than 20', �:�
P.t�;.D. may adjust the parcels storm water drainage fee in acc�_--
dance with the following procedure:
a. Calculation of nnit runoff foz the parcel shall be de:er-
mined by the methods outlined in the Soil Conservatic^
Service Technical Release No. 55, utili2ing a 2" tota;
rain°all amoun: and antecedant moisture condition II.
b. If calculated uait runo.`f is shown to dif`.er fror.. the
assicned anount for that lanfl use cat�aory by 20: o:
more, the number of assigned P.EG's _°or thac parcel sn�=:
be ac'justed by 1�ultiplyinq b�� the za:•:o o: thz calc.:i�:ec
unit runoff to the stancaru unit runofi.
c, A parcels storm water drainaae fee shall be sub�ec; t..
increases as well as decreases by this procecure.
d. Hecause single famil� and duplex fees are not D�Si'U u�on
actual parcel acreaaz, no adjustnents for ur.it runo_i c.:-
ferences will be mace fo: those land uses.
i3) Proce:iure for Calccaltiea o_` Cred:ts :or �;et I'e^cs
A rarcel ray be crecited for u� to fifty (50"_) c.vrc_^t o; :n�
ste^^ w�at^r drairage :ee `or onsite ccas,;res which arc our.•�c ac:
ma.nt�ir.ed by tne ap�lica.^.t vhic7 e:°ect.vels rec.:ce tac cu�__�.• .._
seciner.t,'nutrien:s fre-. tne site. Creci: percencaac ..aaL' be :,as�_c
on o^e-na1= o: tt,e ac:�.:al percenta^•� c_ sec-:'._.._ reco��:�- -.--___..
as ceterr.:r.ec dy thz fo-iewin� rrocecc=e, rouncec to cn� .._- ��_ �-_,
e�:ce;�: thac no credit tviil ve c_•_en `or sed_:`=.,_ ._....,.c_ _=yic_�r.c:_s
o: less tnan 20'_,
A. Calc::latior. o` Crecic=_ `_or 'r:et = or.cs
a. Deter^ir.e total s�te acreace aac �erce^t o' s::c _..:._
has an i,-,.proved or i^�er�•ious scr'ace.
b. Calculate the ann;:al deptn o`_ ruac" `_rcn t:e _.,___.._.
ecuat:or.:
Dr = P(.75 Im+.15)-5.23+ (.2�-.12-3 I�).597
i:here Dr = anr.Lal cep�h of rcno`: in ir.c'�es.
Im = perce�t o_° site i-�rric::s azea, e:�:essw es a c_c:-�_.
P= ar..^.ual depth o? �rec=pitation = 29 ir.cnes.
c. Calculate ar.n�al vol•.i:.e o_' rur.o'r in acre-fee::
Vannual - Si:e acreace x Dr/ 12
c. Deter^:i^e ronc ca�ac:ty belew o;;r�e� ele•.aticn -. ____-'____.
e. Calculate capacity ir.'2o•.� rat_o (CZi }, i:7�re:
C-3 = -oac'_a^ capac:ty ! 'annual
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(a) Cre�'_ts For Stcr^ Yatc: Ceten�ior.:
7, parcel r,a: be ere�_:e� `o: to ��. c: the stc.--. wvte: ..r:,ir.-
dCC ICC _°O. O.^.-S-L� ^.C.'.SC]"CS ..�._C}1 ].::!::` S:C'-': '.iALC° P"'�C'.: iOti,'S
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a. "� -=`c:. `o= .ar. __� ..i,_ c:� . _.... :a:�. c ._ �_, r�tcs ..__ _r.
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a S-;'�ar :a=.,'�!: e'--.._ to prc�_:�1�; __.._ :�t�s.
b. Acci�:c^al 15: cre�'_t `_cr :arccis ::h_ca '_:r.__ �:�;: o�c`lo�.;
rat<s cur-r_ a '_OJ-}'2ar :ain'.�11 c:er.t ... _ -..-.=ic.:-,en�
races.
(Based o^ .he zat:cnal �.echc� c_° =uao'_` �r.al}�s.s. nr�c_:�_lc�-
mer.t con�_'ior. s^all be coas�:ie_ed tc : a:'� a r�c:or.al "C" v�lue
o: 0.2. Tz;.ie o_° ce^cen�r�t_or. shall be r.o si:o: _er _..�.. �0 .,_... )
c. :c :.etentier. crec:�s �.•ill .'-,e ^i:•en °or -=arccls .:aic`, ::c r,o=
li^it 5-year event out'icu rac�s to . rec�_��eiccT.e^t 1��:�c�iz.
(5) Crecits Snc�n in (3) aac (,) I.be"e :':�:' be C�:�'.:la�i•:e.
(E; Period'_c Inscec�ior. anc Crecit �cj•.:s�csr.�s.
Public t•:orks Directer zeser�:es the ric:� to ins�ec_ cer_�c:c�_L:
all storn crainaae co^�ro1 `aczl,ties to ascertair. t�ac t!:c, arc ccc•r_.-
ing properly. I° sLC: a s_�sterr., due to ir..nro�er nainter.anc� or o_��.r
reason, £ails to detain o: cieanse stor- water runoff in an c'i�c=_.=
manner, the director ^a}• el_^ir.at2 or recnc� water quality or ::ec-r.__cr.
crec'its to an ac�ropriate 1e��e1. :,ny sucn .'a�il_ty shall not �a •:1_-
aible to apply for s:or� crair.ace fee ad,ust�er.ts for d 9E�=GC: G_' �L
r..o^::+s :ollowir., an� crec.t ac7ustr..ent. C_euit adjustnents s�aa: ;,c�
be �ace retroactively.
The issuance oi any builcina per;.,,t or otner action wnicn c��: ?-s c- -•.-
:ens.:ies an eXisting land use s:�all bc cause for an ac;::s��ea� ci stcrr.
wacer draiaage fees �o an aa�:cpriate le��el.
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Seccica No. i4 oF the Rose��i:Ie City Coce.
STORy I:ATER UTILITY
T]PICAL IMPEAVIOl1S e
I. RESIDEtiTIAL: Typical lot and house
Impervious: House 1690
Drive 900
Patio, I�ck,
sic3ewalks 300
2,890 sq.ft.
Total area; 11,A75
2 Irp.= 2890/11,47� = 25.18e
= 25b
IZ. ,7UL':IPLL FA?:ILY
}3�se•.�ille Tstates
n^�..:se� :'i::aare
4;estwcoc Village III
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E1 Tbr:to
Id�sedale Tb�.ers
M 6 M Office
Lexington Plaza
Roseville Siiop. Ctr.
L�zopea� F;ealt'� Spa
:'2.^. iL175,`.�_
Ivca�ion
273�-2655 Rice
2 �.0 Cc . R^:. C
395-4;7 Cb.Fi:.0
905 T�rrace ?r.
13 %0 'Irr. ace Dr
17i; :•arion St.
175 Iar�es�te;3r
222� Co. Rc'. B
Location
1925 �;. Pezirn:�-
17Q0 i•:. 'ISt. 36
1611 m. Rd. B
1700± Le�cington
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115�- Iar�enteur
2325 Snellin�
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Lot Area
sc. ft.
988,000
4�2,000
22G,000
as,9oo
137,000
63,800
54,000
425,OOD±
Lot Area
Acres
1.43
4.62
2.88
6.54
4.96
1. E37
1.55
Ispro��ed
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436,000
223,000
110,000
�a,soo
69,00�
44,000
2i, 700
+
201,000-
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44 �
53=
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62'
51'.
65:
51�
47z
:�can = 53� = SOi
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Area
.25
a.iz
2.03
6.54
4.75
1.5
1.53
I,^c:roved
8 3'�
a;
70
100
96
80
'e3
E57. 6 = �$ i �.
N. IhDUSTRIAL
Gasxett FYeightline
Nielson ti�arehouse
Warehouse
Warehouse
Truck Terminal
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Location
2845 Cleveland
2281 Co. Rd. C
1975 Co. Rd. B2
2250 Terminal
1717 Co. Rd. C
• ' SCIIOOLS, LISFU�F]' S D1ISC. 'PUBLIC
Fair��iew Sr. Ctr. 1910 Fairviea
916 VoT�c (Lea. Eler,. ) 2151 N. Iexington
Par}:view Jr. III O�. Rd• B 6 Dale
Grolr t1 (Ik O»asso) Victoria s��i�ochill
L'.S. 'w�y (Lk.*1cCar.on) 211 130. �ScCarror.s
:]Ci2 C�^:c.Z Sc.rool (R.I�a�es) 2fi�0 i..S�eil_^.� r�.^'.
Central ParSc £1c3'�. 535 Co•Fri. B-2
Fa.:sey Hi Sc'�ool '_2�0 �.Rc. 8-�
GC�'EA.:;::L::T BL'ILDI::G�
F,rea
:.:r�s
14.3
6.65
4.42
3.32
11.3
1C.8
B.SY
26.8
7.55
9 .0
13.26
9.51
3G.71
Ra; �se.• Co�.-it;' Libraz}' Co. }�cl. II 6 F;a l:ne .
I���'.,'_:e u•:ic �r.ter 25c� C'_':ic Ctr.Dr. 19.;�
(2:aL � arc.�a� 9�.ra,e. ' ecl (Less roac:)
CHCRCf:ES
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3mseville Covenant
Advent Luthexan
St. Christophzr L`�iscop.
Prince of Peace
Ivnc o` nings
Emsetoa�n Lutheran
�_,., _._�� ,;:,scz�ll
\4� �R:� ••C��b Fi3"t1iI1C
Ha.:line s Jos. Rhd.
2300 I�;nline
2561 Victoria
Dale S TH. 36
1946 Fern�.�od
11.5
2.1
5.0
4.93
5.3
5.0
3.33
ircq�rvd
;,;ea
12.5
5.4
3.78
2.92
10.2
5.6
2.3
5.7
2.4
2.15
2.5
3.17
13.1
61
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Ir _,. :�:
87`.
81
86
BB
90
86�: = 85:
30`:
2i
21
32
24
19
33.3
36
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2.3
2.7
2 .0
1.2
2.5
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67
46
7 f.
3c
24
75
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PARKS Developed*
Bruce Russell
Autumn Grove
McCarrons Beach
Sand Castle
Rosebroo;:
C�•�^,'L.2ZL�, GO:..s' CCLTS?'S
Cc�ia::icL:. ''rYl. Gol?
dlidla�c tlills Col_`
Fbse1��-� C�TM�e:z.•.i
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locatirn
1350 T,boc�zill Dr.
i3ar�1 ine 6 Lydia
McCarcvns Li:. (Rice)
3060 Old ff`.�• 8
25�5 Snellinc� (s "C")
2�23 F`.-1�,e (=?:.3E)
2��1 FLlha.:.
L Z. �. 6 �'icto: ia
Area 71r�rvd
Rcres Area Ac.
9.39
6.65
10 . 8±
2.4±
£3.25
25.8
160.93
75,0
0.7
0.85
1.9
0.54
0.9
0.��
3.5
5.0
62
8
Itc�ro�'t�?
16ti
13
17
22
11
15.6: = 15'
3'e
2
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Starm 4:ater Catagory
Zand Use
l�sidential
Multiple
Ca;ner�ial
Inclustr ial
Schools
Qiutthes/Govt
Developed Parks
�'rietaries, Golf C.
STOR"; Lti'ATER L3TSLITY
RUNOFF FACTORS
SC.SS
Tipe $ GN
Inpervious (Soil "B")
25�c
50
85
BS
30
50
15
4
*:•r..1ti; le cf t}^ical ms;a:nt'_ai r�.�"
70
80
92
92
72
80
67
62
��Standard"
2" Rain
Fan�off
.29
.56
1.24
1.24
.30
.56
.18
.09
63
1/�6/84
RLL.�`c*
Faccor
( fa�u^.�ec )
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5
5
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2.5
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When
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Roseville plans to use a"new" technique to pay ���1 \
for the costs of managing storm ��ater runoff —�
— a Storm I?rainage Utility. This leaflet is prepared �\
to introduce you to this new utility and answer your questions.
Questions??? & Answers!!!
Why do we have
C�,3 �
a storm drainage system?
Bc(ore people settled m Rose-
ville, the natural state of the land
was rolling prairie tovered with
grass and trees N'hen it ra+ned, the
water soaled mto the grnund or
(lo�+cd naturali�� to the rn�ers and
streams N'hen people tame to
Roseedle, the� built homes, sMres,
offues, churchrs, and paved the
land wrth strects, parGing lots, and
dn.�eNavs I�o..,whenitrams,the
grnund cannot absorb the wster as
easil�. and more ..ater flo.,�s oFf.
As the de�elnpmenl oF the land
tontinued, it berame increasin�ly
Y�'hy is a utility needed?
Reient Statc lrg�=lan:c no. rr
q.n;> R•;,,�;;, ta in:r grrafe. and
ro�t1+n c�huns to protect water
quaLt�� in our communit} than
e.•er before. These actioa: will
indude Eurming tN�o ne�� water
manaRement organizations and
de��eloping regional and (ocal p{ans
to identiFy problems.
Today, storm i.�ater rosts are
paid.for using general tax money
—property taxes. These newcosts,
..•hen combined N•�th the nearly
$200,000 Rose��ille must spend for
onRoing storm drainage main-
tenance each year, represents a
ma�or expenditure of taz money.
Rose� ille must find a..•ae to meet
these risinK costs in a fair and
equitable manner, without adding
addrtionat burden to the property
tati rolls
important to control the stotm
water. Storm drainage farilities
had to be built, maintained and
rene.ved in order to:
• PF07ECT PEOPLE
• P�i07fCT PROPEFTY
• REDUCE 1tiSUFAh'CE R151�t
• lA4PROl'f PROFEF7Y
VALUES
• E7�'HA.ti'CE 7HE
E.\' l'f R C�.1.11 E.\' 7
• PROI"1DE FOR SAFE
TR,IFFIC FCOk'
To control smrm .vaters and
recene these benefits, there is a
eost The proposed storm dramage
ut�hty will spmad these costs to
those ..h� "create" the storm
water runoff
What is a storm
drainage utility?
A stnrm drainage uhlity is
similar to the familiar sanitary
sewer utility. The (ec is based on
the amnuni nlu�alr. that is discharged
into the systcm For instance, a
parking lol creates more runofF
than a grass area the same size, so
it pa��s a highcr rate. Similarly,
a lar�e parcel creates mnre runofF
than a small parccl, sn i1 t�+n pays a
higher amount In th�s ..�a��, the
ciluens of Ru>���illc will pay for
thr mana�ement n( st�+rm �vater in
proportwn lo thc amount o( water
they 'tn�!,iF��r". nnt on the �alue of
their property
What's my share of the costs?
The eapected quarterl�� fees in 19R4 tc� ��ar:��u> tv; ��� :,-; i�rr.�> are
shown belo..:
PROPERTY TYPE QL'ARTERLY RATES
Smele Familc H�=rrs and Duple+ces ...................... 54 35;Inf
Cemetenes and Golf Courses .......................... $315;acre
Parks and Parking Lots ................................ $995racre
Schools and Communih• Centers . .. .. . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . 57 r : =' •- rr
Multiple Famil�� Dwellings and Churches .............. 53? SO acre
Commercial!Industrial ............................... 505 Co acre
Your storm drainage fee will be
included on the same water and
sew�er c�il �ou recei��e ea.h quarter.
Also, your fee can be reduced if you
can demonstrate that your pro-
perty has on site facilrties which
improve water quality or reduce its
out�lc.: rate.
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e�oo portland avenue • minnesota ssazs
TRANSMiTTAL
DATE� NovPmber 7, 1984
T�: John Flora
643] Univarsity Avenue NE
Fridley, Minnesota 5543[
FROM� Michar] J. Eastling, Cily Engineer
RE�
ITEMS
Infrastructure
N0.
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PURPOSE
�_ AS YOU REQUESTED
FOR YOUR INFORMGTION
FOR YOUR APPROVAL
REMARKS�
COPY
DESCRiPTiON
Info on Storm WaLPr DrainaRP Ulility
Ca]] me if you need more information.
REVIEW AND RETURN
REPLY TO SENDER
OTHER (SEE REMARKS)
Ielephone:869-7521(612)
7n edual opportunity employlr
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CITIZEN'S LEA6UE
' in
"The Region's Infrastructure:
The Problem Isn't What You Think It is" - p. 35
One of the conclusions:
"Giving responsibility for an infrastructure system to an autonomous,
fee-based utility make adequate upkeep and attention to the system
more likely. Leaving infrastructure systems Sn canpetition with
other public Gudget demands is risky."
P. 33:
"The greatest return on the maintenance dollar probably comes through
spending to keep a facility in top shape, preventing the lnitial
deterioration which may lead to a need for replacement."
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COMIITTEE ON NA7IONAL URBAN POLICY, Etal.
Pers ectives on Urban Infrastructure, p. 125,'George E. Peterson, Pu41fc
nance rogram, r an nsti u e
"User fees establtsh an analog to the private market, where prices are
set and users pay according to the size of their service consumption."
"Such fees have no correlation to the ability to pay. This ts a problem
to which we must be sensitive as the proportion of the local budget
financed through user fees intreases."
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CITY OF RICHFIELD, MINNESOTA
Office of City Manager
Council Letter No. 333
Agertda September 24, 19�L
The Honorable Nayor
and
Members of the City Council
City of Richtield
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Subjec�: Discussion on Storm Water ltt;lity for City Council
Study Session ���'
Council Members: '.
At the July 25, 1983 city council meeting, the staff uaa
directed to take steps to create a storm uater utility. The
staff waa to prepare rate schedules depending on Lhe level of
service optiona. The September 2u, 198u etudy session Will be
used to discuss the optiorts available for the levels of service.
Level of Servlce
The storm water cantrol service that is provided by the city
consists of three elements. First th�re is operations. This is
Lhe xork performed to enhance the performance of the system.
The emphaaia is on the performance rather thars the actual
phy�ical facility. Clear.ing storm sewer lines, catch basias and
outfells are examples oF operation taska. Operetion
co�ts include the power to run the lift �tations and atreet,
aweeping. Street sweeping collect� the ailt and debris before
it reaches Lhe cstch basins and draSns into the ponds.
A second element of Lhe atorm water control aerv.ce ia
maintenance. Maintenance ia work performed t0 keep up the
exi�ting physical sy�tem. An example of this 1s the dredging of
whole ponds �o that they do not fill up with Lhe silt contalned
in the storm xater. Another costly maintenattce item is the
repair of the adjustment rings that aupport the catch Dasin
(street drain) castings xhich collect the �ater from the
streets. The city haa Deen sper,ding about �20,000 a year tc
maintain these rings and should epend at least twice that to
prevettt the erosion of the subgrade under our streeLs.
The third element of storm xater control service 1� t�,e
capital expenditures. These capital expenditurea are addi;.ions
to the system or major rehabilitation. Yhe engineering firm of
Orr-Schelen-Nayeron 6 Associates, Ino. (OSM) has completed a
storm water contrel analysis of the aity�s entire ay�tem..
Eagirteers from OSM xill be at the study session to explain_hox
the study was done and vhat oew information is now available.
This study will be helpful in the determination of.Which capital
projects would be the mosL effective. -
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The attached storm water utility'lev.el of aervice schedule
(Attachment A) identifies three levels of service that could be
available. Level of Service A identifies tasks which are
currently performed by the city which could be assigned to the
etorm water utility. Some of these functions are eow funded by
the sanitary aewer utility and some through the general fund.
Level of Service A lncludes the cleaning of storm sewer lines,
catch basins and outfalls, power for lift stations, spring and
iall street aweepirtg, repair of catch basins, and some limited
dredging.
Level of Servlce B Sncludes all thoee servicee Sn the Level
of Service A plus a aummer street �weeping program and
additional dredging. For approximately a15,000 to a20,000 a
aummer, a street sweeper can be kept on duty tor constant
sweepirtg. The rate of catch basin repair would be at least
doubled and the dredging significantly irtcreased. Also included
1n Level of Service B is t2D,000 for capital expenditures. This
520,000 could be used to pay off a bond for a 516�,000 to
E200,000 capital project.
The Level ef Service C is Lhe same as Level of Service 8
�- except that =200,000 would De identified for debt retirement.
This money could be used to retire bonds for a capital project
for between 1.6 and 2 million dollara.
the attached storm water utility rate schedule (Attachment
B) indicates the estimated cast impact of these three levels of
�ervlce on typical properties in the city.
Although no formal action can be taken at the �tudy se�sion,
the staff is seeking direction from the city council as to the
desired level of �ervice ta be provided by the utility. A
public hearing can be scheduled and information about the
utility can be prepared to be distributed to the residenta by a
brocbure similar to the one used by Roseville (Attachment C).
Richfield Lake cost estimates are also SncluCed as
Attachment D. The alter�atSves will be discusaed et the study
session. Contircuing discussion and possible action related to
Richfield Lake pathway alternatives will slso be eeheduled for
the regular council agenda.
Attachment E is a letter from Orr-5chelen-Mayeron and
Associates, Ine. which outlines certain drairtage problem� in the
city alorsg t+ith recommended priority of aolution lmplementation.
Respectfull subwitted,
he G. Car ri t
City Manager
Level of Ser•,ice
0?EZA7ION5
MAi\iE�A,tiCE
�A?:TAL
-C' �1 i i
S70RM 11ATER U;IlITF ?�511A� EXPctiiI7URES
A B
$ 9a,00C S11i,000
S 30,000 $ i5,000
_ $ 20,OCG
512�,000 Sz10.000
Attachment A 6$
C
5115,000
S i5,000
$ZGC,000
$39C,000
.•
PRELIMI�ARY STORM DRAINAGE UTILITY BUDCET
IOperations: Clean ]ines, manholes, outfalls
Spring/Fa71 Sweeping
Power for Lift Slations
7esting, moniLOring, rnginrering,
administration, Tiscellaneous
iincluding WaiershPd District contracis)
Su-uner sveeping
MaintrnancP: Repair rings on caLCh basins
Dredging
Repair pipes and outfalls
Capital: Additions to the system or major rehabilitation
Today �A)
$15,000
70,000
3,000
6.000
$18,000
10.000
Y ���
Proposed �B)
$20,000
70,000
3,000
9,000
]6,000
$40,000
25,000
10.000
Estimaie 10-12% of capila] expenditure for debt reliremrnl of bond.
$2,000,000 investmenl yield approzimalely $220,000 bond payment.
STO&M kATER UTILITX RATE SCHEDULE
AttachmenC 9 70
* RESIDEM1TIAL - per lo[ (average 65' lo[;
Approximacely 51 annual fee per household for cach $16,000
epent on utilicy
OR
Level oE Service A B C
(A'znually) SB.00 513.20 S24.�0
(Q�ar[erly) $2.00 $ 3.30 S 6.10
* CO"9HERCIAL
Level of Service A
6`.i' Lot:
(l�nnually) SZ4.00
((�uarteriy) $ 6.00
A
539.20
S 9.80
C
573.20
518.3C
Orie Acre:
(Annua:ly) $116.80 5196.40 $366.00
(Ctuarterly) 529.20 $49.10 $91.50
-------------------°----------------------------------------------------------------
ANNUAL FEE FOR ADDITIONAL CnPITnL £XPE*7SES
$.5 Mil. $1 Mil. 51.5 Mil. S2 Mil. S3 'rf!]. 54 Mil.
Reaiden[ial $ 3.�0 $ i.00 $ 10.50 $ 14.00 $ 21.00 $ 28.C:
65' Lot Comme:cial S 10.50 $ 21.00 $ 31.50 5 42.00 $ 63.00 $ 84.�:
One dcre Cor,c�ercial S 52.50 $105.00 S157.00 $210.00 $315.00 $4�:.G�
�
�'�<:E
.�:.. ,•
�+C � as a ��c..�P source oi ae°tin� uoaGe� in,te�s.cdness for tiie goif
n", cours2 could call into quesLio:� tne feasibility of t�avin� tllose
���
profiLS availo5lc for �d:iiticnal obli6cLion.
y, �'p�cial Assc�sments �
'l;.i� prucess aas atte:n�Ce� in ��7� a�� �)79• Testinb for
required benefit by the cour�s makes it doubtful that these
special ++ssessmeuts eo�ld u° suscained.
�, ;;;��ral Obli�otion donus
k�.:in this .+oul� reauire a rel'erend�m.
AEC.y�.;:.:•DATIOt��
�, a 5[.orm Draina;;c Utility s.i�uld be initiated. Utner lif'e
lines in tt�e city such a� tn;• .:ater, sanitary sewer and arteridl
stre�t systems are l�inan�e:: t,r�u�:i �ser fecs. Tc�is
pre5ictable, reliaUle anJ equitable ioethod of financing removes
these public healtn anJ +.clC:,r� issues Crom Lh> annual
co�npetition for the Eencral fun.i dollar.
p, 3;�e.:ia1 Aeve�ues (?) �h���3 n�t be used to fund thc storR
water control projects wishout careful consideration of which
projecss noa on Lhe five year Gapital Improvement Progra�n uould
be delayed.
3, Tne �ood Lake con�uit syscen o�ti:niz�tion and tne GSth
Streec and Xerxes Avenue imFrove;nenss should be done. Tne
benefits from this projecL are clearly uorLh relatively u,odest
71
CITY OF FRIDLEY
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMEP�T AUTHORITY
MEETING
OCTOBER 11, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Commers called the October 11, 1984, Housing & Redevelopment Authority
meeting to order at 7:03 p.m,
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Larry Commers, Elmars Prieditis, Carolyn Svendsen, Duane Prairie
Members Abseni ; Walter Rasmussen
Others Present: Nasim Qureshi, HRA Director
Sid Inman, City Finance Director
APPROVAL OF AUGUST 9, 1984, HOUSING & REDEVELOPIIENT AUTHORITY P1INUTES:
MOTION BY F1R. PRZBDITIS� SEC011DED BY MR. PRAIRIE� TO APPROVE TNE AUGUST 9� Z984�
HDUSING 6 REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORZTY MINUTES AS WRITTEN,
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAZRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED TNE MOTION
CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY,
1.
_EASE BETWEEN THE CITY Of
Mr. Qureshi stated the Staff had presented some initial information on this
at a previous HRA meeting, The City now has a formal letter from the Holly
Shopping Center owners releasing the City from its lease for the liquor store,
That has triggered the City's ability to move out of Holly into the old hard-
ware building. He stated the City is now looking into how the building can
be upgraded and adjusted to suit its needs for a warehouse liquor store,
The City has laid out some terms for the lease, and it is the City's hope
that tfie liquor store could be open for business by December of this year,
Mr. Qureshi stated that when this was discussed before, the HRA seemed
agreeahle to this approach. The City's only request would be that the
HRA approve a lease with the Gity when they actually start conducting 6usi-
ness in the building.
Mr. Qureshi reviewed the terms outlined in Mr, Inman's memo dated Oct. 3, 1984:
1. The City of Fridley Liquor Stores have agreed to rent approx,
8,500 sq, ft, of the hardware store at a cost of $2.50 per
square foot.
HOUSIP�G & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING OLTOBER 11 1984 PAGE 2
2. Tfie length of the lease will be 2 years.
3. Tfiere will be one year extension after the initial 2 years.
4. The HRA agrees to pay 1/3 of the improvements per year up to
3 years if they {NRA) terminate the lease before the end of
the 3 year period,
5. There will be no relocation fees.
6. The liquor store will pay for the heat, light, water, upkeep,
and maintenance,
Mr. Qureshi stated that if the HRA was in general agreement with these terms,
he would put together a formal lease to be presented to the HRA for its
approval.
The HRA members were in general agreement with the terms of the lease with
the City for a municipal warehouse liquor store in the hardware building.
2. COfISIDERATION Of DEUELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH NEW HOLLY CENTER OWNERS:
Mr, Qureshi stated he would give the HRA some background on what has been
happening with the new Holly Center owners, He showed the HRA members the
overall plan the City has been working on with the owners of Holly,
Mr. Qureshi stated that at the last meeting, he had reported to the HRA that
the City was working with the owners of Holly to apply for a low interest HUD
loan. The application was submitted; but, unfortunately, they did not get the
grant application approved by HUD.
Mr, Qureshi stated the owners of the Holly Center and the HRA Staff still
feel they should still work toward achieving the goal they set out to achieve
in upgrading the center,
Mr, Qureshi stated one of the improvemnts is facade and signage improvement.
The estimate for improving the facade and signage is 8200,000. That was the
amount of the HUD loan the owners of Holly had applied for, but didn't receive.
Mr, Qureshi stated they had discussed before that the Phillips Station was in
poor repair, tended to hide the Holly Center, and erea-wise was very small
(14, ��p sq, ft.) 7hey had discussed eliminat9n9 the Phillips Station and
the service road in order to open up the view to the Center, compliment what
they are trying to do with the Center, and allow us to take more right-of-
way for traffic improvement.
Mr. Qureshi stated they would like to carry the same walkway system theme
and ]andscaping theme from the Ceqter City area into the Holly Center.
HOUSIN6 & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING OCTOBER 17 1984 PAGE 3
Mr. Qureshi stated that presently the City is carrying a value for the
Holly Center of $1.5858 million for 82-83-84. He has asked the owners of
Holly if they would be willing to upgrade the value of the center, after
all improvements, to $2.5 million, Once they have almost a million dollar
increment generated by the increase in value, that would bring �n
almost $40,OQ0 in increased taxes.
Mr, Qureshi stated the owners of Holly Center are willing to put in �200,000
on the biiilding, $50,000 in other improvements, and about $50,000 in improve-
ments they are willing to accept as assessments, so they are willing to put
in almost $300,000 in upgrading the Center, They are willing to accept
almost a million dollar increase in value, which gives about b40,000 per
year in increased taxes.
Mr. Qureshi stated one approach would be the removal of the gas station and
service road and the redoing of the parking lot which would cost the HRA
about $150,000. Other improvements along Mississippi might cost about
another $100,000. If they do yet the $40,000 in increased taxes, that amount
could be recovered in 5-6 years.
�4r. Qureshi stated the improvements are not necessarily just for Holly Center,
It includes the traffic improvements that are for the general public. It
also provides the theme they want to continue in this area.
Mr. Qureshi stated he was proposing that the owners of tfie Holly Center pur-
chase the gas station. The HRA would purchase the gas station from the owners
of Holly. Then the HRA would sell the property back to the owners of Holly about
9,000 sq. feet in finished form, retaining 4,500 sq. ft, of the 14,300 sq. ft.
for additional turna�g lane, sidewalk and landscaping.
Mr. Qureshi stated these improvements would be done in four different phases.
Mr, Qureshi stated he was looking for some direction from the HRA that they
were in agreement with the general concept of the points discussed so that
Staff could proceed to put together a development agreement with the owners
of Holly Center,
Mr. Prieditis stated he was in agreement with the general concept. He felt
it would certainly add to the �hole area, not just the shopping center.
Opening up that northwest corner was going to make it more pleasant for all
four corners and might attract interest in the southwest corner. He stated
he liked the idea, and it would solve sane of the traffic problems at this
intersection,
Ms. Svendsen agreed with Mr. Prieditis that it was more than just the
aesthetics. They know they have to do sanething with that corner, It
definitely needs modification to the intersection to help the traffic flow.
She felt that was an important part. Also, removing the gas station would
open up the area from all directionsand would show off what is being done.
She agreed that the concept was excellent.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPPIENT AUTHORITY MEETING OCTOBER 11 1984 PAGE 4
Mr, Prairie stated he thought it was a good idea, assuming they have adequate
funds to not back them into a corner should something else come up later.
Mr, Commers stated he was in agreement with the other HRA members and would
autfiorize the Staff to proceed to negotiate a development agreement and
bring it back to the HRA for approval.
Mr, Qureshi stated that when the HRA was doing the plaza, they had chosen
four architects and given each $1,000 to come up with plans from which the
HRA had selected one for the plaza. He stated Staff had discussed using this
same technique to get ideas for a design for the intersection. He stated it
was one of the most critical intersections in the City, because of the traffic,
it is a central location, and the focal point they are trying to create for
the whole development. Staff was recommending holding a contest for 2-3
months and offering $1,000 for first prize, $500 for second prize. They
could invite art schools, sculpture schools, schools of architect, colleges,
etc., to enter.
Mr. Prieidits stated he thought the contest was a good idea. It would also
be good publicity for the City.
The HRA members were in agreement with the concept of running a contest.
3. FIPIANCIAL STATEMENT:
Mr, Commers asked Mr. Inman to review the financial statement from Jan. 1,1984,
to Oct. 11, 1984. Ne stated the mem6ers could review it further and approve
it at the next meeting.
4. CHECK REGISTER:
MOTION BY MR. PRIEDITIS� SECONDED BY MR. PRAIRZE� TO APPROI/� TXE CHECK
REGISTER DATED OCT. 5� 1984, IN THE AMOUNT OF $206,578.
UPON A 40ICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE MOTZON
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ADJOURPdMENT:
Cfiairperson Commers declared the Oct. 11, 1984, Nbusing & RedeveTopment Authority
meeting adjourned at 8:20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
� � �
ynn a a
Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
COI�QIONITY DEVELOPI�NT COMJ�!ISSION
MEETING
oCTOSEa 9, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Oquist called the October 9� 1984, Community Development
Commiesion meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL-
yembers Present; LeRoy 04uist� Ken Vos, Louis Schmidt
N,embers Absent: A1 Gabel
Others Present: Mark Burch, Asst. Public Works Director
APPROVpL OF ADGUST 14, 1984, COMN.IINITY pEVELOPMENT CO!'N.ISSICN MINUTES:
MOTION BY N,R. SCHMIDT� SECONDED BY DR. VOS, T� APPROVE TBE AIIGUST 14�
i9�, COt�:[JNITY DEVELOPI�NT COMNISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
OPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON OQ4IST DECLARED THE
kCTION CARRIED IINANIN.OIISLY.
1. DISCUSSION-0F COt�4'.OAICATIOr'S DISH ORDIhpNCE.
Mr. Burch stated that he would like the input of the commisEion
in regard to an ordinance that xill be drafted that applies to
dish antennas.
N,r. Oquist asked if the city can legally refuse to let them be
put up.
Nr. Burch stated that the city could not take a stand on something
that has not been decided by the courts.
The commission agreed that Ordinance No. 520 of the City of New
Brighton �rould be a good guideline to follov with the following
suggestioas added:
A. The dish could be considered an accessory structure which vould
require a special use permit. The city could then regulate
size and height requirements.
B. Guidelines for aaintenaace of the dishes rould be beneficial.
fOYMJNITY DEVELOPYENT COT'MIISSION MEETING OCTOBER 9, 1984 PAGE 2
C. Expand the ordinance to include R-3 and commercial zones.
D. Criteria could be developed according to the 2oning factor.
E. Hake more restrictions for commercial properties that adjoin
residential properties euch as screening the side that faces
residential property.
2. DISCUSSION OF PROSTITIITION ORDINANCE.
After reviewal and discussion the following motioa ras made:
MOTION BY MR. VOS� SECONDED BY MR. SCAMIDT, TO RECOM�tEND THAT THE
COUNCIL PASS THE ORDINAh'CE N0. AN ORDINANCE RECODIFYING THE
THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE BY ADOPTING A NEW CRAPTER 126 ENTITLED
"HODSES OF PROSTITDTION; PIIBLIC NDISANCE"•
QPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON OQDIST DECLARr:ll
THE MaTION CARRIED IINANIMQIISLY.
ADJOtTRNMENT•
Chairperson Oquist declared the October 9, 1984, �ommunity Development
meeting adjourned at 8:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted�
,�
•i'[/1l.'IP�, �CQ(�%ti
Denise Bosch
Recording Secretary
� �Y
CITY OF FRIDLEY
ENVIRONMENTAL QIIALITY COMMISSION
MEETING
OCTOBER 16, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Nielsen called to order the October 16, 1984, Environmental
Quality Commission meeting at 7;41 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: MaYnard Nielsen, Richard Svanda, 7layne Wellan
Members Absent: Tom Gronlund, Bruce Peterson
Others Present: Jim Robinson, Planning Coordinator
Connie Metcalf, SORT
Fran Sranson, SORT
Meradie Selin, SORT
Ginny Steinmetz, SORT
PPROVAL OF SEPTEMBER 18 1$q ENVIRONMENTpL UALITY COMMISSION MINOTES:
MOTION BY MR, SVANDA, SECONDED BY MR, WELLAN� TO APPROVE TAE SEPTEMBER
18� 1984, ENtIIRONMENTpL QUALITY COA*.MISSION MINUTES APPROVED AS WRITTEN.
IIPON A VGICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON NIELSEN DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOUSLY.
1. DISCUSSION OF RECYCLING PROPOSAL TO CITY COIINCIL.
Mr. Svanda asked Ms. Metcalf what her response xas to the statemect
Ms. Nelson had made to the effect that a curbside program rould
enhance the SORT program.
M.s. Metcalf did not know how a curbside program �rould efgect SORT.
p lot of groups collect for SORT and it is hoped that these groups
would remain loyal to SORT.
Mr. Svanda asked how many diYferent graps come to the SORT facility.
Hs. Hetcalf atated there has never been a count done.
Mr. Wellan asked if curhside pick up would hinder the SORT program.
The committee members did not think it xould enhance SORT. However,
the real goal is recycling por everybody and curbside could better
facilitate this.
ENVIRONMENTAL IIALSTY CAt�",�iISSZON I�lEETING OCTOBER 16 1984 Pa e 2
Mr. Wellan stated that a joint effort would be best for the community.
The committee members stated that if a curbs3de pick up is started in
Fridley, most of the SOgT customers Mould be out of the Fridley area.
Mr• Robittson stated that on October 29, there Will be a council conference
meeting. He said that Connie Hetcalf �eill be on the agenda to present
her case for curbside and Joann Nelson to present a proposal for Recycling
IInlimited. He stated that he thought that what was bringing everything
to a head is the 50¢ per household surcharge money (5,000). Joann Nelson
stated that she could do curbside for the entire city for 85,000 a year.
Mr. Robinson stat6� that he would be interested in SORT's suggestions
and ideas for the money and how they wauld like to interface with the
curbside program.
Ms. Metcalf stated that she has talked with haulers but has no concrete
proposal.
Mr. Svanda suggested hiring a student intern to serve as a focal point
for the program.
Mr. Svanda stated that in 3-4 Ye�'s it will become a mandatory issue.
Mr. Nielsen stated that he did not think the council xas aware that the
comm�ttee is this close to a proposal.
Ms. Metcalf stated that she would be talking about the SORT curbside
pilot program at the October 29 meeting.
Mr. Robinson stated that he has not received a xritten proposal from
Joann Nelson.
Mr. Robinson stated that there vill be a$800;000 grant/loan program for solid
waste abatement projects available spring of 1985. No criterialhas been set up yet.
Mr. Robinson stated that it xould be up to Connie to decide how she
would vrant to rrork with Recycling IInlimited or to submit a Proposal of
her own.
Ms. Metcalf stated that her plan is to find a hauler to cover the city
in three days.
Mr. wellan stated the committee is still in the first phase of looking
into Recycliag IInlimited.
Mr. Robinson stated that Recycling IInlimited�s track record seems to
be good. He said that the committee would be checking her credentials.
'� ENVIRONMENTAL QIIALITY COMMISSION MEETIN�. OCTOBER 16, 198b PAGE 3
Ms. Metcalf stated that her main concern was hox thin Me. Nelsoa might
be spreadiag herself.
Ms. Metca2Y stated that intense preliminary publicity is essential to
meeting a good participation rate.
Hr. �ellan asked Ms. Metcalf if she vould try to orgaaize a curbside
progrem through SORT.
Ms. yetcalY stated that it would be a private enterprise.
Mr. Wellan asked if Fridley Would be big enough for one firm to break
even.
Ms. Metcalf stated that she did not knorr if she could. Her main obsta-
cle would be Yinding a warehouse.
Mr. Wellan asked if Connie had a handle on the markets.
Ms. Metcalt said that she did.
Mr. Wellan asked rhat Ms. Metcalf would do different this time in order
to get f1i11 coverage.
Ms. Metcalf stated th� it would take city cooperation and publicity.
She stated that neighborhood callers and signs used before would be
extremely valuable.
Mr. Wellan asked how Ms. MetCa}f xould keep interest. Would the program
be able to carry itself?
Ms. Metcalf stated that she thought,it could be done through continuing
reminders (bulletins, etc.). The recycling iasue is going to be manda-
tory and has received much media publicity.
Mr. Robinson asked vhy Ms, Metcalf would not want to start a project
through SORT.
The committee members stated they did not have the funds.
Mr. NieZsen stated that through various local civic groups they could
get funds for at least a doxn payment on a truck.
M8. Metcalf stated that the question rould be rhat ttinds would be avail-
able to pay SORT for salaried people.
�'• Robinson stated the best SORT could hope for xould be tt}�e �5,000
BurCharRe rnaey gnd possibly Aunan Services grant, Being as SOR is
local and well known there could possibly be support from local civic groups.
ENVIRONMENTAL QIIALITY COMMISSION MEETING OCTOBER 16, 1984 PAGE 4 �
He also stated that Ms. Nelson ie coming in xith the organization and
structure.
Me. Metcalf brought to the attention oi the committee that there is a
possibility that SORT Rould be asked to move to accommodate the new
horseshoe throxing facility.
Mr. Robinson stated that Mr. Flora had asked SORT to think about xhat
they would need if the move did come about.
Mr. Robinson asked if they would need only one truck to do the city.
Ms. Metcalf said she thought so.
Mr. Robinson said that he xould be glad to help Connie xith anything
she needed before the October 29 council meeting.
Ms. Metcalf asked xhat materials Recycling IInlimited picks up.
The committee thought everything except plastics,
2. DISC[TSSION OF N,OORE LAKE RESTORATION PROGRAM.
Mr. Robinson stated that he would like to bring the Moore Lake Project
before the comm3ttee to see if they vrould like to comment.
Mr. Robinson outlined a plan submitted by Hickok and Associates which
involves three phases. The first two phases involve dealing with run
off from the southeast quadrant of the city. The third phase calls
for the harvesting of the weeds on the east basin o£ the lake. There
are no plans Yor the rest basin at th3s time. It would involve a 50-50
city match grant program through the EPA.
The following items would also be done in an effort to restore the lake:
p. Covering the shallo�est part of the lake (6 feet deep or less) with
a heavy plastic. This effectively eliminates the transfer of
phosphorus which is the key thing to control.
B. Treat the entire water column with alum which takes the phosphorus
to the bottom of the lake and creates a cake at the bottom.
C. To put rip wrap around the lake except for the beach area.
D. Dig a large hole north of the beach and put a iishing pier in.
E. The cattails along AMy. 65 would be left as this is a aatural
habitat.
ENVIRONMENTAL QIIALITY COMMISSION MEETING aCTOBER 16, 1984 PAGE 5
F. A deep water areator placed vhich would only require a small hole
in the ice.
A propoeal was also submitted by the Clean �ow System. It xas looked
into and not found to be Yeasible. They are saying that they can clean
this whole thing up xithout doing the harvesting or plastic by creating
a huge amount of areat3on and more alum and dying xater. He has a
track record which could be questioned depending on xhich time of the
year the data �as taken.
Mr. Nielsea stated he has seen the Clean Flow SYstem and the theory is
good.
N,s. Metcalf brought up a petition that is circulating to have the city
consider the pest side of the lake in its clean up effort.
N(r� Robinson stated that the problem is limited funding. He said that
the •est side is more land based recreation rhere the east side is more
water based activities so you can see hor the priority would be set.
}�r. Wellan asked what the council's position is.
Mr. xobinson stated thatthe bids came in too high so their plan is to
break down '.ne vork to smalla sections and get lower priced specialized
areas. itself.meantime, Clean Florr System would be given a chance to
justify
Ms. Metcalf stated that the citizens she had talked to had vehemently
opposed laying doxn plastic.
Ms. Selin asked rhat proportion of the east side of the lake is six feet
or less.
Mr. Robinson stated that he thought it rould be a substantial portion.
Ms. Metcalf thought the rip rap weuld loolc tksa artificial.
MT. Robinson said that he had seen it elsewhere and it didn't look too bad.
Ms. Metcalf asked if the commission had any thoughts on the west side
of the lake rhich is 50% shoreline owned. She feels that the city is �
ignoring the tremendous weed growth. She said that it can be mowed.
A company she contacted could do it at a cost of $14,�00 once a year
but it is recommended that it be done twice a year. It does control
9596 of the xeed groRth.
ENVIROrMENTAL Qi3ALITY COMMISSION MEETING. OCTOBER 16, 198tt PAGE 6
Mr. Svanda asked what the lake would be used for if it ras moqed.
Ms. Metcalf said 6ailing and canoeing.
Ms. Metcalf stated that she did not think there was much nesponse. She
stated the residents on the lake would be xilling to be accessed for
half of the remedy which could amount to 8z33 per household.
Mr. Wellan suggested that Mr. Robinson look into what the overall plan
for the west side is.
3. OTHER BUSINESS
A. Oil Recycling Program
Mr. Metcalf asked the committee if they could remember xhat
their original motion was on oil recycling.
Mr. Svanda stated 50-50 after expenses.
Ms. Metcalf stated that a change has been made rhere the city
takes out the money it accrues from its own oil.
Mr. Robinson stated that he throught the rationalization was
that Public Works was recycling their oRn oil when Connie came
along and said we can have a joint venture. They were already
recycling their oxn oil and going to help out SORT and build
the facility and from here on in split 50-5�.
Mr. Robinson stated that SORT should be getting money soon as
they had broken even and that Connie should check into it.
Mr. Robinson will check on xhat the original motion w as.
B. Article in the Metro Monitor
Mr. Robinson wanted Lo call to the attention of the committee
a legislation that xould make source separation mandatory by
1988 and no yardwaste in land £ills by 1986.
ENVIRONMET"tAL QUALITX COMt"ISSION MEETING OCTOBER 16. 1984 PAGE 7
ADJOIIRNMENT :
HOTION by Mr. Wellan� seconded by Mr. Svanda� to adjoura the meeting.
IIpon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Nielsen declared the
October 16, 1984r Environmental Quality Commission meetiag adjourned
at 9: i5 p. m.
Respectflilly submitted,
s�,Q.iL1AP_> �
Denise Bosch
Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
APPEALS C0�4MISSIOW MEE7ING, OCTaBER 23, 1984
CALL TO OR�ER:
Chairperson Gabel called the October 23, 1984, Appeals Corrmission meeting to
order at 3:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Meribers Present: Pat Gabel, Alex Barna, Jean Gerou, Oonald Betzold
Mer�bers Absent :
Others Present
Jim PTemel
Darrel �lar•k,
Geoff hlartin,
Ken Selgarde,
City of Fridley
One Groveland Terrace, Mpls. 55403
7841 Wayzata Blvd., Mpls. 55426
APPROUAL OF OCTOBER 9, 1984, APPEALS COMh1ISSI0N MINUTES:
MOTION BY AfS. GE.20U, SL'CD.'JPEL BY 11R, BETZOLD, TO APPROVE TfIE CCT. 9, 2984,
APPEALS COFIMZSFION MINUTES AS 47RITTEN.
UPON R VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� C7IAIRPEP.SOl7 CABEL DECLAI.'EP THE MOTION CAP.RZED
U7dANZffOUSLY.
R�QUEST FOR A VARIANCE PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 214 OF THE fRIDLEY CITY COD[, TO
�I�FfA , IY�h UM W L S I G R 5 5�`���Ri1F—FTFT�
ne' Roberts, Nordqnist Sign Co., 312 Wes
55408)
nneapoiis
MOTION BY MR. BARNA� SECONDED BY MS. G£ROU� TO REMOVE TNIS ITEM FROI.' THE
TABLE,
UPON R VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING A1'E, CNAIF.PERSON GRBEL DECLAI2ED TXE 1'OTION
CARRIED UNANIM.OUSLY.
Mr. Clark stated the proposal was to place a 300 sq, ft, temporary real
estate/area identification sign at the northern most portion of the property
they own along East River Road. The size of the sign has now been reduced
to 200 sq. ft, stating the name of the center, "River Road Business Center"
and listing the phone number. There is no other real estate information on
the proposed sign.
Mr. Clark stated that, as he understood it, the developers do propose to put
permanent signage on the buiJdings as wall signs. A sign plan will be sub-
mitted at some time in the future. Ln addition to those signs, there are two
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETIIJG, OCTOBER 23, 1984 PAGE 2
islands being created by the driveways going into the complex. Each one of
those islands will have an area i;'eni:i`ication sinn in comp]iance with
city code.
Mr. Geoff Martin stated he was with Hovrard Dalgon Associates, Land Planninq
Consultants. He stated Ken Belgarde was also at the meeting representin9
Marreld, Belgarde, and Yaffe Companies, the developers of the East River
Road Business Center.
Mr, Martin apoloqized for not having a representative at the Appeals Comnission
- meetinq when this item was tabled, He stated they have been lookinq at
� various alternatives on how to handle the signage,
Mr. Martin stated the development was approximately 270,000 sq. ft. of office,
tech, and service facility on approximately 22 acres of land. They are ask-
ing for a variance from 50 sq. ft. to 200 sq. ft. He stated the revised
sign was in the Commission's agenda packet, There was also a photograph in
the a9enda packet that il]ustrated the sign as it mi9ht appear from 694.
Mr. �1artin stated they feel that from 694, a 50 sq, ft, sign as allov�ed by
city code, would not allow for a large enough sign to be visible from 694,
and they feel that is their hardship. Since this is such a large development,
in order for it to succeed and be a viable part of the Fridley corrmunity,
they would like to fill their buildings as soon as possible and feel a sign
would definitely help their situation.
Mr. Martin stated the Commissions had made some comments at the meeting at
which this item was tabled, Some of those comments dealt with the aspects
of 694, the sign size, and the definition of the sign as being a billboard.
Mr. Martin stated a billboard is more defined as something that advertises
something for sale off the premises. For clarificatton, their sign was
selling something that was on site--advertising a business center--not a
product. If it was a billboard, there are all kinds of regulations that
govern a billboard, but this is a leasing sign, not a billboard.
Mr. Martin stated the Commissioners had some concerns about the distraction
for traffic moving along 694. He stated he had talked to Ed Brown, Minnesota
Department of Transportation, about the concerns about accidents at this
intersection. Mr. Brown had said some of the reasons for the accident rate
referred to in the MnDOT 1979 study was the old meterinq systems on the
entrance ramps and also that traffic does converge down by the old railroad
overpass. P1r. Br.own also felt a sign in this location would not be a dis-
traction and would not cause any problems on 694.
Mr. Martin stated they feel a larger si9n would simpiify and would be easier
to comprehend and not be as much a distraction as a smaller sign which would
be harder to read and could be more of a nuisance than the larqer sign.
APPEALS CO��ISSION MEETIN6, OCTOBER 23 1984 PAGE 3
Mr. P4artin stated some comments were made by the Commission about possibly
using the existing billboard to the south. He stated they have looked at
this billboard. It is approximately 2,000 ft. from 694 which is quite a
distance. If they look at it closely, it is really not that visible and
people traveling 694 really have to strain to see it. They feel 694 is
where most of their potential tenants would be located.
Mr. Plartin stated that with regard to the tenants and the leasing and
marketing of this property, they have talked to people from Coldwell-Banker.
It was the concensus of the majority of those people that for a development
like this located in an area that has not been developed with this type of
facility in the past (the area is mostly commercial), the signage is imperative
for the center's marketing and signage is one of the most useful tools in this
situation.
Mr. Barna stated the revised sign vras certainly preferable to the previous
sign. In a split second, people can see it there and kno4r what it says. Even
if they cannot read the whole sign, they realize they have to exit at that
point. He stated he had less objection to a sign of this type; however, they
were still running far in excess of what the normal signage would be per sign.
Total square footage for the whole site was heing combined into one sign.
Mr. Betzold stated P1r. Piartin had tried to differentiate betareen billboards
and leasing signs, but the purpose of the ordinance really doesn't distinguish
between the two. One purpose of the ordinance is to eliminate visual pollution
and the second Qurpose is to increase safety. The concern the Commission had
at their last meeting was that this o-ias a very danqerous intersection, and the
Conmission does not want people to Ee looking off the road when thay should
be looking at the road. He ��as not sure that Mr. Martin had c?ear•ly addressed
that concern. Ne stated he drove 694 twice a day, and he could not think of
a more dangerous intersection in the whole city than this intersection.
F7r. P1artin stated their main concern with the term "billboard" was they were
willing to compromise as far as what size would work. They were tryinq to
come up with something that was larger thzn 50 sq. ft. that was large enough
hut yet would be safe. When they talk_about billboards, there are regulations
that say the hillboard has to be 500 ft. back from any intersection and it
cannot be within 1,000 ft. of another billboard. So, it was a matter of hovi
a person interpreted what constituted a billboard. He stated this is a
tenporary sign. Granted, the size that was illustrated before was definitely
the size of a billboard, and the concerns of site lines and distractions were
well warranted. However, they feel this new proposed sign would be cleaner
and easier to read because it was simpler. The letter•s will be approx. two
feet high. In a 50 sq. ft, sign, the letters would be much smaller, and
people would not be able to comprehend it quic{:ly from 694.
Mr. Martin stated they did talk to people from Naegele as to what their "rule
of thumb" was for what size of letters to apply to a sign for this distance
from the freeway, how fast people were traveling, etc. The people from fJaegele
su99ested that �rith this distance, 1,000 ft. down to 900 ft., from 694, the
letters be at least 4 ft, f�igh. Mr. Martin stated the size letters they are
suggesting for this sign are 22 ft. high.
APPEALS COHMISSIOP� MEETING, OCTOBER 23, 19II4 PAGE 4
Mr, Barna asked for the time schedule for the development on the lots south
of 53rd Ave.
Mr. Belgarde stated it will take them about 7-9 months, depending on the
weather, to get the shell of the first building up. Then, if the leasing
goes well v�ith the first building, they will probably have a staging effect
of about six months between each building, They anticipate about 2-3 years
to the completion of the total development.
Pts. Gabel stated that if the Appeals Commission grants this variance, she
could foresee the developer coming back again in two years asking for an
extension on the variance.
Mr, Belgarde stated he felt the City of Fridley, like Bloomington, St. Paul,
Minnetonka, and other corronunities, will find the Narreld, Belgarde, and Yaffe
group very receptive to talk to and work with. If there are concerns on the
part of the City, they will be more than willing to 90 out and work on those
problens. He stated they look at this development as a partnership with the
community as well as a partnership among themselves. They want to do things
right.
Ms, Gabel stated she felt the Conanission members understood that. The
Conmission was glad to see these kinds of developments happen; hoatever, the
Cormiission was also charged with some responsibility to the conmunity as a
whole. They all have a lot of concerns about what happens on that freeway.
She reco9nized the situation on 694 was not the developer's fault. But, the
CorQnission was very concerned about the existing conditions on that freeway
and putting anything there now o�ould worsen that situation. As she had stated
before, there was no one who could prove that signs cause accidents, but
obviously if people are reading signs, they are not looking at the road.
Mr, Belgarde stated this was 270,000 sq. ft. of product, none of which was
leased at this time. This was the Lhird recent large project like this they
have undertaken in the last five years. Part of the allurement to this area
was the freeway. One of the things they need to do is get some identification
that this is River Road Business Center along East River Road and 694, so the
sign was quite important to them.
Mr. Martin stated they are willing to put landscaping around the sign to
dress it up if that would help.
Mr. Betzold stated he had noted that the sign was essentially parallel to
694, presumably so people could see it from both directions. Had the
developer considered angling the sign so it would be more visible to the east-
bound traffic more than the westbound traffic? He stated he was a little con-
cerned about having people in the westbound lane looking over and reading the
sign. When the sign is parallel with the freeway, people are not going to be
able to see what the sign says unti7 they are right on it.
Mr. Belgarde stated he had no objection to tipping the sign so it would be
more visible to the eastbound traffic.
APPEALS COMMISSIOP! MEETITJG, OCTOBER 23 1984 PAGE 5
Ms, Gahel stated that once the building was 6uilt, they are allowed wall
signage based on a formula for square footage. Since this building was
quite large, she was concerned that the wall siqn could get to be very large.
Mr. Clark stated it was stipulated on the perriit that they would have to
su6mit a signage plan.
Mr. Martin stated that in all of Mr. Belgarde's projects, the whole sign
package has always been designed to be architecturally compatible with tlie
to�al package. The tenants do not have the freedom to design whatever they
want. PJarreld, Belgarde, & Yaffe are very concerned about their image, and
their building materials are of high quality. LanAscapinq is of a very hi9h
caliber.
Mr. Barna stated he would like to see some kind of sign or layout where it
would only take a split second out of the corner of the eye to see and
realize that this was where a person had to exit, rather than someone havinq
to try to copy down a telephone number to call a rental office.
Mr, 6elgarde stated he would be willing to drop the telephone number if that
would make a difference to the Commission.
Mr. Barna stated if he were to approve that size of a sign, he would rather
see 4'2 ft. letters and no telephone number. A telephone number could be put
on the sign on East River Road for anyone seriously interested in the
development.
Ms. Gahel stated that in order for her to be able to vote in favor of the
variance, she would need a couple of stipulations: (1) that the sign he
taken down within 2 yrs. or at 95`,0 occupancy of the entire project vrhichever
cane first with no extensions; (2) there he no wall signage on the completed
building wit regar to easing or advertising while the other sign was
standing.
Ms. Gabel stated she certainly appreciated the developer's efforts to com-
promise by reducing the size of the sign and their willingness to delete
the telephone number,
Mr. Betzold stated he would be in favor of deleting the telephone number.
Mr. Belgarde asked the Comnission that if they took off the telephone number,
could they increase the letter size, still keeping the sign at 2�0 sq. ft.
Ms. Gabel stated that made sense and might be preferable.
MOTION BY MS. GEP.OU� SECONDED BY 1�2. BRRNA� TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HERP.ING.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLAFtED THE PUBLIC
HEARING CLOSED RT 8:25 P.M.
APPEALS COt1t1ISSI0N MEETING, OCTOBER 23, 1984 PAGE 6
Ms. Gerou stated ihere was a definite hardship and a sign was needed; however,
the location was bad no matter how they looked at it.
Mr. Barna stated it bothered him to say this development had to have a small
sign when t�ey are sitting rigfit next door to a company that has a very large
sign. He realized the developers want to identify their site. He wouid much
prefer a long short sign as close to the ground as possible with as large a
letter as possi6le with the minimum amount of information. Ne was no±
totally anti-sign, and he could sympathize with the developers.
Mr, Betzold stated the developers' pitch was they are trying to sell the
development from 694, He wholeheartedly supported the development and would
like to see everything done that was possible to make the deve]opment work.
The City needed more enterprise in that particular area, However, he did not
see them helping an already bad situation by allowing this sign. There was
still a lot of traffic on East River Road, and a lot of people could see the
signage on East River Road and have time to think about relocatinq in this
business center. More people do travel 694, but he did not know if this was
the way to attract their attention toward the development.
Ms. 6abe1 stated she was really opposed to putting a sign in this location.
MOTION BY AfR. BETZOLD� SECONDED BY Af.S. G£ROU� TO RECOF`MEND TO CITY COUNCIL
DENIRL OF A FEQUEST FOR A VARZANCE PURSUFL9T TO CHRPTER 214 OF TXE FRIDLEY
CITy CODE TO ZNCREASE THE 14AXIISUM ALLO[:ABLE SIGIT AREII FOR A REAL ESTATE SZGfI
FROM FIFTY SQUARE FEET TO THREE NUNDRED SQUARE FEET TO ALZA[9 FOR ?�ISIBILITY
OPF HICH47RY 694 AND EAST RIVER ROAD ON LOT 6� BLOCY, 1� GRERT 1JORTFIERN
INDUSTP.IAL CENTER� TNE SAFfE BEING 5342 EAST RI?�E'R ROAD� FRIDLEY, b1N. 55432.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� GABEL, BETZOLD� AND GEROU VOTING RYE, BARAIA VOTSNG NAY�
CHAIRPEP.SON GABEL DECLARED THE b10_TION CARRIED BY R VOTE OF 3-1.
Ms. Gabel stated this item would go to City Council on Nov. 19.
A�JOURFIMENT:
MO"'ION BY 1�1R. BETZOLD, SECONDED BY MS. GEROU, TO AA70URN TY.E MEETING. UPOl7 R
VOZCE POTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE OCT. 23� 1984� RPPEALS
COIf1�1ISSION MEETZNG ADJOURNED AT 8:30 P.M.
ResPectfully submitted,
' c -�.
ynne Saba
Recording Secretary
CITY OF ERIDLEY
ENERGY COMMISSION
MEETING
OCTOBER 23, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Saba called the October 23, 1984, Energy Commission meeting to
order at 7:36 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Dean Saba, Brad Sielaff, Bruce Bondow, Dale Thompson,
Glen Douglas
Others Present: Jim Robinson, Planning Coordinator
APPROVAL OF SEPTEMBER 25. 1984. ENERGY COMMISSION MIN[TTES:
MOTION by Mr. Douglas, seconded by Mr. Thompson, to approve the September
25, 1985, Energy Commission minutes as corrected.
Dpon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Saba declared the motion
carried unanimously.
1. REVIEW CO MONITOR PROGRAM
Mr. Robinson etated that the city attorney still felt that the badges
were not a wise idea for two reasons:
A. The badge is oaly good for 30 days. The CO condition itself is
is a very temporal one depending on conditions.
B. Even though a disclaimer would be issued, there would still be
an inhereat liability.
The city attorney felt the following routes should be taken instead:
A. Hand out information about CO moaitors.
B. Try to stock the monitors in stores.
C. Loan program trith some kind of device that could be loaned out
for a couple of days.
Mr. Saha stated that he could not remember hearing of any law suit
against smoke detectors xhich would be the. same type of situation.
Mr. Robinson etated that the city attorney said that if the committee
still felt they wanted to go ahead� a set of directions �vould be a
plus and that he would like to look at them and make any necessary
changes.
ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 23, 1984 PAGE 2
Mr. gondow drafted a cover letter to go xith the badge.
Mr. Robinson said that he would take the letter, directions, and badge
back to the city attorney for revisions and approval.
Mr. Bondow stated that he could not get a free_sample of a lox cost
monitor.
Mr. Saba stated that if the monitor program is successful, he would like
to urge as a commission that the Minnesota Department of �blic Safety
adopt some type of formal program statewide.
Mr. Robinson stated that we cannot make any money on the program.
Hr. Bondow stated that he �rould be in favor of giving the badges away and
asking for some type of response.
The commission decided to have one good informative article distributed
xith the badge.
Mr. Robinson stated that he would like to get the badges out by the next
meeting if he reould get it cleared by the city attorney.
The commission decided to distribute the badges to the people that had
called the city and do a follow-up phone survey.
Mr. Saba stated that if the program did not go through, a courtesy copy
of an article on CO could be sent to the people who called the city.
The committee asked Mr. Robinson to purchase a$q0 CO monitor with the
alarm.
Mr. Robinson suggested that we could give people the information and
have them send away ior the badges.
2. IIPDATE ON MHFA RENTAL REHAB GRANT PROGRAt•`.
Mr. Robinson stated that the paperwork has been done for the program.
The key items in the program as stated in the brochure are, "under
completion of t#t� rehabilitation. the property must comply with Housing
Quality Standards and the State Energy Code for Rental Properties and correct
any defician�i�� that made thm Duildin� �ligible for reeeipt of� �he grant
dollare.",
Mr. Robinson stated that oxners have to come up xith the 1% Yiling fee
over and above the amount of the match.
ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING OCTOBER 23. 1984 PAGE 3
]�. Robinson stated that when he talked to Lynn McDaniels of the Metr000litan
Council� he brought up the point about the 1984 vs. 1985 energy stan-
dards. He said that the city strongly lobbied using the 1985 standards
and that they rould enforce these codes on its oxn. She stated that it
looked like they would be using the 1985 criteria.
Mr. Robinsoa stated that the miniaum grant Would be $300 per unit and
the maximum graat would be $5,400 per unit.
The following steps r►ill take place in administering the program:
A. Applications from property owners will be due November 31.
B. The applications will be reviexed by MHFA and sent back to the city
in December.
C. The MHFA inspector, the city building inspector, and MHFA's project
architect will go out and look at the buildings and go over the plans.
D. The city will be asked to prioritiz e the proposals. At that point
they rrill be brought to the Energy Commission for priort3zation.
Flirther marketing of the program will be done by Mr. Robinson and Steve
Olson.
3. OTHER BIISINESS:
A. L01Y COST HOME ENERGY LOANS FOR MINNES02A HOMEOWNERS BROCH(TRE.
Mr. Robinson stated that the brochures had been placed in the
library and banks.
B. WOODBIIRNING SAFETY VIDFA
Mr. Robinson stated that the tape has been completely revi�ed
and improned With credentials added.
The commission asked that it be run once a day for this month
and next moath.
Mr. Robiason stated that they called the numbers listed at the
end of the tape and were sent the information included with the
agenda.
The committee discussed other tapes to be run on topics such as
super-insulating homea.
ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 23, 1984 PAGE 4
C. DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY PROGRAM
Mr. gobinson stated that he pould be bringing the commission
information on a program by the Department of Energy for the
rehabilitation of schools.
D. SIGNIFICANT ENERGY PROJECTS IN N,INNESOTA.
Mr. Robinson stated that he wauld be supplying the commission
with a brochure on significant energy projects being done in
the state of Minnesota.
E. HENRY �HODACRI - FMC
Mr. Robinson stated that Mr. Chodacki had not gotten back to
him and that he would try to contact him.
F. OPERATION INSULATION
Operation Insulation is a Minneapolis program in which the
planning department serves as coordinator for insulating homes.
Mr. Robinson will call Mr. Groody to ask him to come out and
talk to the commission about the program.
G. ENERGY SIIRVEY
Mr. Saba vill follor up on the Energy Survey.
ADJOIIRNMENT:
MOTION by Mr. Hondox, seconded by Mr. Douglas,
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson
23, 1984, Energy Commission Meeting adjouraed
Respecttlilly submitted,
/�Y�L�C.J l�dc�/
�Denise Bosch
Recording Secretary
to adjourn the meeting,
Saba declared the October
at 8:53 P.m.
CITY OF FRIDLEY
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 13, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Gabel called the Nov. 13, 1984, Appeals Commission meeting to order
at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present
Merabers A6sent:
Others Present:
Pat Gabel, �ean 6erou, Donald Betzold
Jim Plemel, Alex Barna
Darrel Clark, City of fridley
Louis Rosburg, Kurt Manufacturing
APPROVAL OF OCTOBER 23, 1984, APPEALS COMMISSIO!! MINUTES:
MO^SON BY 1f5. GEROU, SECOPIDED BY MR, BETZOLD, TO APPROL'E TNE OCT, 23, 2984,
APPEALS COltA17SS70N MINUTES AS WRZTTEII.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIP.PERSOfI GABEL DECLAP.ED THE MOTION CARP.IED
UNAPJIf10USLY.
1, REqUEST FOR A VHRIANCE PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 205 OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE
uest by
Louis Rosburg, 7191 Highway #65 N.E., Fridley, Mn, 55432)
MO.TION BY MR. $ETZOLD� SECONDED BY MS. GEP.OU, TO OPEN THE PC'BLIC HEARING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL ['OTING AYE� CHAIP.PERSON GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLZC
XEN2ING OPEN AT 7:32 P.M.
Chairperson Gabel read the Administr�tive Staff Report:
ADI9I;JISTRATIVE STAFF Rfpf?�?T
7191 Hi9hway #65 N.E,
A. PUGLIC PURpOSE SERVE� BY REQUIREPIENT:
Section 205.17.5D.5b requires all parking and hard surface areas to be
no closer than 5 feet from any side lot line, except for an approved
conmon drive.
Section 205.17.5D,5a requires all par[cing and hard surface areas to be
no closer than 20 feet from any street right of way.
APPEALS C0�4MISSION �4EETING. !JOVEMBER 13. 1984
PAf,E
Puhlic purpose served by these requirements is to reduce visual pollution
in tf�e front yard, in �reas adjacent to lot lines, and to separate park-
ing with landscaped areas.
B. STATED HARDSHIP:
"The driveway is too narrow for truck deliveries. We would like to
widen the driveway from the existing 20 feet to 24 feet, for a length
of 182 feet, which would locate it 1 foot from the south lot line."
The front yard parking is existing.
C, ADI1INISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW:
If the fioard recommends approval of the:e variances, the staff has no
stipulations to suggest.
Mr. Clark showed the Commissioners an aerial photo of the area.
Mr. Clark stated the original building was built in 1956 for a company called
Minnesota Door. That company added onto the building in 1959, and some time
after that, the building was purchased by a company called Automatic Engineer-
ing and Manufacturing. Since 1959, very little, if anythinq, had been done
in terms of improvements.
Mr. Clark stated that
property. Since that
looks of the prcperty.
and bring the property
concerned.
about two years ago, Kurt htanufacturing purchased the
time, they have made good strides toward improving the
They are now planning to improve the parking lot
up to present day standards as far as landscapinc� is
Mr. Clark stated Kurt Manufacturing did inherit sor�e problems wfien they
purchased the property. The building was built with some of the parkinq in
front. The north side of the building was the required distance from the
lot line. After the building was built, the street right of way was dedicated
causing the building to be 5-10 ft. off the north property line. Because
Lhey want a wider driveway to get better access to the doors they have on the
south side of the building, Kurt Manufacturing is requesting a variance. They
can only get a 20 ft, driveway without the variance,
Mr. Clark stated Kurt Manufacturing has contacted the leasee to the south,
a mobile home sales lot, and the owner of the lot, Harstad, and while they do
not have any o6jections to the variance, they did not v�ant to cormiit to havin�
a joint driveway which then necessitated the need for this variance.
Mr. Clark stated Kurt Planufacturing would like to put a surmountable curb in
along the south property line so that with the movement of trailers in and out
of the lot to the south and trucks coming into Kurt Manufacturing, the trucks
might have to drive over the curbs. The City has no objection to the surmount-
ahle curb, and it does provide a border beta�een the driveways.
APPEALS COt4MIS5I0N t4EETING, NOVE116ER 13 1984 PA�E 3
Mr. Clark stated Kurt Manufacturing has been working with City Staff on land-
scaping. Kurt Manufacturing went before the Planning Commission and City
Council for a special use permit. Because the eastern portion of the property is
zoned R-3, they needed a special use permit to allow parking in that R-3
portion. The Planning Coimnission approved the special use perriit with the
following stipulations. He stated these stipulations did not need to be
repeated in a motion if the variance is approved.
i. An acceptabie landscape plan
2. Six ft. and eight ft. solid wood fencing in front of the loadin9
dock and around outside storage area on east side of building.
3. Six inch concrete curbing as per code
4. Approval of southerly curb location contingent upon variance
approval.
5. Special use permit contingent upon the City receiving a
310,000 performance bond.
6, qll improvements to be completed by June 1, 1985
7. The existing parking spaces in front of building to be reduced
from 10 to 7 and these areas be landscaped.
Mr. Louis Rosburg, Kurt Manufacturing, stated they are concerned
distance from the building to their lot line vrhich is 39.9 ft.
requirement on a standard driving lane is 25 ft., and they want
close to the standard driving lane as alloo-rable. He would also
the curb opening to the west is greater than the width of their
about the
The
to he as
point out that
driveway.
MO_TZON BY MR. BETZOLD� SECONDED BY MS. GEROU, TO CLOSE THE PUIILIC f1EAP.IPJG.
UpON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE, CHASA.PERSON GABEL DECLAI2SD THE PUT3LIC
HEARING CIASED AT 7:42 P.Df.
Ms. Gerou stated that as tong as the property owner to the south does not
object to this variance and there is a temporary special use permit on the
property, she would be in favor of granting the variance.
Mr, 6etzold stated it was obvious from the way the building was built and the
position of the loading dock, the wider driveway was the only way the company
would he able to use their building and be able to get semi's and large trucks
back there. He stated the Commission is simply being asked to confirm what
has already been the use of that particular property. They are not changing
anything, except to hard surface the driveway. He thought the plan made sense,
because he felt that what they were doing by approving the variance o-ias conducive
to the use of the property to the south.
Ms. Gabel stated she agreed with that. She definitely thought there was a
hardship, She agreed with Mr. Betzold that they were not approving something
that didn't already exist. They were just approving,it in an upgraded manner.
The company is also working with the City to upgrade and improve the property
as a whole, so she was in favor of granting the variance.
APPEALS COP4MISSION MEETING, NOUEMBER 13 1984 PAGE 4
I•fOSION BY MR. BET20LD, SECONDED BY MS. GEROU, TO APPROVE TXE REQUEST FOR
R VRRIANCE PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 205 OF Tf:E FRIDLEY CITY CODE TO REDUCE TN.F,
REQUIRED SETBACK FOR PARY.ING ON SOUTH FROM 5 FEET TO 2 FOOT TO ALI.OW FOP.
A 24 FOOT DRIVEWAY, AND TO ALLO[9 PARKIWG IN TNE REQUIRED FRONT YRP,D� ON THE
WEST 375 FEET OF LOT 2� AUDITOR'S SUBDII'ISION NO. 89� THE SAF!E BEING
7191 XIGN4�RY k.65 N,E.� FRIDLEY� MN, 55432.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CNAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED TXL M.OTION
CRRRZED UNANIAfOUSLY,
Ms. Gahel stated that as a member of the Planning Commission, she would have
no objection to this variance going directly to the Citv Council so
that the petitioner might be able to 9et this work done before bad weather.
ADJOURN�qENT:
MOTION BY P1R. BETZOLD� SECONDED 8Y MS. GEROU� TO ADJOURN ?'NE PfEESZNG. UPON A
VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRPERSON GABEL DECLAP,E'D THE NOV. 13� I984� APPEALS
COIUIZSSION MEETIl7G �iDJOURNED AT 7:SI P.M.
Respectfully sub 'tted,
/ �..�Y..t�
yne aa
Recording Secretary
CITY OF fRIDLEY
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSIOP�
MEETING
NOVEMBER 1, 1984
CAIL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Minton called the November 1, 1984, Human Resources Commission
meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Menbers Preseni; Bob Minton, Arlie Niemi, Peter Treuenfels, Brian Goodspeed
Members Absent: Barbara Kocher
Others Present: Bill Hunt, Administrative Assistant
Paul Anderson, 6710 Monroe St. N.E.
APPROVAL Of OCTOBER 4, 1984, HU��N RESOURCES COMMISSIOP� MEETING:
IdO,^ION gy DtS. NIEMZ� SECONDED BY MR. GOODSPEED, TO APPROVE THE OCT. 9, 1984,
NUIiAN RESOURCES COM!lISSION MINUTES fIITFf THE ADDITION OF LZZ CHEVALIER'S NAME
UNDER "OTHERS PRESENT",
UPON A VOICE VDTE� ALL VOSING AYE� CNAZRPERSON MINTON DECLARED THE MO^IOP7 CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
1, OL� BUSINESS:
a. Consideration of Locke House/Banfill Tavern Renovation
Mr. Minton stated he would like to report to the Cortmission that
Bri�n Goodspeed, Peter Treuenfels, and himself, Ed Fitzpatrick, City
Councilperson; Kerry van F1eet, Chamber of Camnerce; Samantha Orduno
and Bill Hunt, City Staff, met recently at a breakfast meeting with
Mr. Dave Torkildson, Anoka County Parks & Recreation Director.
Mr. Minton stated Mr. Torkildson had said he really appreciated the work
tfie Human:Resources Comnission has been doing, but what the County has
6een thinking about now is maybe they would like some help in getting
clu6s and organizations interested in helping with the upkeep and use
of the building, especially exterior upkeep--gardens, painting, etc.
Mr. Torkildson had stated that the County at this time would probahly
be willing to put a lot more money into the building and renovate it;
and, if the "wheel is squeeky enough", enough money would probably be
available.
Mr, Minton stated the Comnission members had pointed out some of the
pt'tfalls of going in t6at direction in that there was not only the
renovation, but also the continued maintenance of the building, particu-
larly tFie expense if it was to be operated as a museum.
HUNAN RESOURCES COMMISSION P1EETINf, NOVEMBER 1. 1984 PAGE 2
Mr. Minton stated this seemed to be Mr. Torkildson's main line of
thought. Mr. Minton stated he did not think Mr, Torkildson was totally
opposed to other possibilities, but this was the alternative the County
�ould like to explore first.
Mr. Minton stated Ms. Orduno had prepared drafted policy recanmendations
in memo form for presentation to tfie City Council. These recortpnendations
described the various alternatives the Canmission has discussed regarding
the restoration of the Banfill Tavern/Locke House.
' Mr. Ninton asked the Commission members about their feelings regarding
� the statement as a whole.
Mr, Coodspeed stated he thought it was a very good statement and reflected
what the Commission has been talking about. He was ready to vote in favor
of passing the recomnendations on to the City Council.
Ms, Niemi stated she agreed with Mr. Goodspeed.
Mr. Treuenfels stated he really would like to see what was involved as
far as finances are concerned, especially how much the taxpayers of
Fridley have to contribute,under each of the five alternatives.
Mr. Treuenfels stated that in the first paragraph of the memo on page 3,
t�t stated: "At tfiis time, it is the feeling of the Fridley Human Resources
Corrtnission that alternative num6er 2 is the most attractive." He stated
he would li�e to see tfiat cfianged to read: "At this time, it is the
feeling of most of the members of the Fridley Human Resources Commission,
6ut not all, that alternative numher 2 is the most attractive." Alternative
num er �s "Sell or Lease the Property to a Private Party".
Mr. Goodspeed asked Mr. Treuenfels what he meant about how much this
might cost the Fridley taxpayers. Did he mean in terms of city expendi-
tures or in terms of the citizens pay taxes to the County and the County
will then spend tfie money?
Mr. Treuenfels stated he meant that without going through the County,
tiaw mucfi would be involved as far as the City of Fridley was concerned--
approximately how much tax money would be involved in each of these
recommendations?
Mr. Hunt stated tfiere would be some indirect costs to the City, but he
dib not knovr exactly how tbey would figure tfiose costs. There might have
to 6e some traffic cfianges in the roadway, but this is a County road and
the property is owned 6y the County, so it was,doubtful whether there
would 6e any direct involvement 6y the City for any of the five
recorrnnendati'ans.
HU�4AN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 1, 1984 PAGE 3
Mr. Minton stated tfiat if tf�ey are going to consider taxes, thay have to
consi'Uer taxes on every level of government. Looking at it that way,
ihere are tax impltcatibns in every one of the five alternatives,
i'rcluding #2, because if a private party bought the building and renovated
it, there would still be tax expenditures involved with the deductions
and credits. The whole consideration shou,ld be that it is going to
cost sane tax money, but what are they getting for the money and is it
wortfi i't for society? If they look at it that way, he felt it was
irtminently worthwhite.
Mr. Treuenfels stated that, in other words, they are estimating the cost
to the County for restorati.on at approximately $200,000 plus an annual
dmount for maihtenance. In order to raise that $200,000, the County
wi:ll not raise taxes or assess a special tax for that purpose.
Mr. Hunt stated that was correct. The County will probably get some
federal grant money to use as matching funds to get some money from the
Historical Society.
Mr. Treuenfels stated he did have serious reservations about the content
of the first paragraph on page 3 as he had mentioned earlier. It has not
been clearly shown that the use of tax monies would be minimized by
alternative #2. It has not been shown tf�at it would totally eliminate
�he need to generate interest in the property. What if the business, or
museum, or whatever else located in the buitding fails? The part of the
paragrapF� he would tertd to agree with was that "living use of the building
would 6e in line witf� a trend whereby tfie maintenance of historical
�uildings is economically feasible".
Mr. Treuenfels stated he had the feeling that the �ounty was leaninq
toward alternative #1, "Accelerate the County's Restoration Schedule and
Arovide Funding for Maintenance", in which case the Commission shoulA at
least mention that possibility. Since the County has shoo+n some interest
in retaining control and financial support of this project, it sort of
let the City of Fridley and the taxpayers of Fridley "off the hook", and
if tF�e County wants to pursue alternative #1, come up with the money for
restoring tf�e building and the ongoing maintenance of the builtling, he
would actually lean towards that recommendation. Of the other a]ternatives,
fie vrould probably agree with alternative �i2 as it seemed interesting and
was a feasi7ile alternatiVe to #1.
Mr. Goodspeed stated he did not trust alternative #1, because after seeing
wfiat has happened with the present administration, they cannot count on
goverrnnent spending to last until tf�e day after tomorrow. The County
could cane up with the money now, but if saneone is not leaning on them,
the money could disappear. He felt alternative #2 was the best in terms
of long term stability.
HUHAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 1 1984 PAGE 4
Mr. Hinton stated he would like to take issue with Mr. Treuenfels's state-
ment tfiat the pfirases in paragraph 1 on page 3 were not substantiated.
Regarding the fact tfiat alternative #2 would "minimize t�e use of tax
mon'les", he tfiougfit i� was rather clear from the descriptions that less
tax money would 6e used. AlternatiVe #1 would use all County tax money
for restoration, renovati.on, and ongoing maintenance. Alternative #3
(Secure Grants from Minnesota Historical Society) would be at least half
tax money and could 6e all tax money, depending on where the match canes
from. Under alternative R4 (Creation of a Private Foundation), one of the
assumptions was that a foundation would get grants under alternative #3,
Tfiat would be one of tfie foundation's main sources of income. Alternative
�5 would 6e completely tax money, so �2 was tfie only one he saw that would
minimize the use of tax monies.
Mr. Treuenfels stated he just felt alternative #2 was possibly as unstable
and volatile as #1. The private party or business might not do so well in
a year or so also.
Ms. Niemi stated she looked at these recommendations as passing a resolu-
tion at the precinct level. They are not making a law, only a reco�nenda-
tion. She felt they were dealing more with generalities here and shouldn't
get too specific with this kind of a statement.
Mr. Hunt suggested that the following change be made to paragraph #1 on
page 3; "At this time it is the feeling of the majority of the Fridtey
Hliman Resources Commission members that alternative number 2 is the most
attractive. However, one mem6er of tfie Commission favors alternative
number 1."
Mr. Treuenfels stated he would be comfortable with that change in wording.
MOTION BY MR. GOODSPEED, SECOf7DED DY MS. NIEMI, TO APPP,OVE 2HE MEMORANDUM
COL'NCIL THP.OUGH
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON MINTON PECLARED THE PfOT20N
CARRIED UNAN2MOUSLY.
Consideration of Disaster Preparedness
Mr. Treuenfels stated this item had been continued since the September
meeting. The discussion left oPf at the point where Mr. Turnbull �ias
wai''ting to meet with officials from Hennepin County because the disaster
preparedness sirens could be purchased at a lower cost if Hennepin County
6ought in a large quantity and Fridley purchased them fran Hennepin County.
Tfie only problem was that Hennepin County is more interested in a one-way
transmissibn siren and Fridley would like to have a rotating siren.
HU11AN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 1 1984 PA6E 5
Mr. Treuenfels stated he did not know the outccvme of this meeting yet
as there has not yet 6een a meeting. He stated when this meeting takes
place, Mr. Turnbull will report the outcome to him and he will pass this
information on to the Commission.
Mr. Minton stated that since Hennepin County was taking care of the sirens
in tts county, wfiy wasr�'t Anoka County taking care of the sirens for
fridley? He stated may5e this was a question Hr. Treuenfels could ask
Mr. Turn6u11.
Discussion contl'hued until tfie next meeting.
c. Consideration of Latch Key Program in Fridley
Mr. Treuenfels stated the subcomnittee of the Lomnunity Education Advisory
Council that has been concerned with the latch key program has had two
meetings. He was only a61e to attend the first one. Ms. Kocher also
attended tfiat first meeting. At that particular meeting, they heard a
report from a gentleman from St. Anthony who had actually organized a
latcfi key program. Ne told of some of the conditions in that comnunity,
_finw the response was, and how the program fias worked out. He also had
�spmetfiing to say a6out the latch key program in Spring Lake Park. A
vdriety of material was received from other school districts on what other
-schflol districts are doing about latch key programs.
Mr. Treuenfels stated he had a chance to speak to a visiting professor
from East Germany who lives in a suburb of Berlin where they have a latch
key program. This professor stated the need is felt world-wide to do
�sometfiing for working parenis` children 6efore and after school. The
German program is run in combination with the pre-kindergarten program.
Mr, Minton stated he had received a copy of a memo to the liuman Resources
Comnission members from Tom Myhra dated Oct. 31, 1984, regarding an
"Update on 'Latchkey' Project". He read this memo to the Commission
members and asked that this memo be attached to the minutes as part of
the record.
Discussion cantinued until the next meeting.
d. Consideration of Police Community Relations Programs
Mr. Hunt stated this was put on the agenda because at the last meetinq
after Ms. Liz Cfievalier's presentation, Mr. Treuenfels had suggested
that maybe at some time the Cortun%ssion could discuss the possibility of
recortrtnending to tfie C{�y Council that the City hire an additional member
for the Police Dept. to fielp witfi the programsning in the schools. This
was referring to the fact that there are several elementary schools (one
pu6�ic � North Park - and several private) in Fridley that are not
receiving any of tfie prevention programning because of lack of staff.
The progrartming is currently held at Hayes and Stevenson Elementary
ScFiools.
HUHAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 1 1984 PAGE 6
Ms. Niemi stated that re9arding the school prevention program, she
would really like to see it expanded to include all the elementary
schools in Frti'bley, botb private and public,
Mr. Goodspeed agreed--why should only tfie children attending public
schnols in fri�ley receive the benefit of this programming and not the
ch3.9dren in the private sc600ls in Fridley?
MOiION BY MS. NIEM7� SECONDED BY MR. TREUENFEIS� THAT TXE NUMA1] RESOi�RCES
WOULD LIKE 21��SEE TNE�pREVENTION�PROGRAMMING EXPANDED TO ALL PHE ELEMENTARY
ANA [90ULD RF,CO1fMEND TNAT ADDITIONRL
STAFF BE ASSIGNED TD THIS IMPORTANT WORK.
Mr. 600dspeed stated that in the Scandi.navian countries, especially
Norway, their whole system of government is a lot more catered to children
than the United States. They have a member on the Council who is an
ombudsman just for the children. So, compared to what other countries
do around tfie world to provide services for thefr children, he thought if
�ridley were to fiave two officers instead of one officer out of the entire
police force tf�ere to just protect the children, he did not think that was
an outrageous request at all,
Ms. Plie�ni stated they are the Human Resources Cortmission, and she felt
tfie chi7dren were their most important human resource; therefore, she
would like to address this.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL f�OPING AYE, CHAIRPEP,SON HINTON DECLAP.ED T17E MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
MOTION BY MS. NIEDfI� SECO?IDED BY MR. GOODSPEED� THAT THE RBOVE RESOLUTION
BE REVIEWED AND EXPEDITED DSRECTLY SO THE PLANNSNG COlfMISS20N AND CITY
COUNCIL AFTER REVSEW BY THE CA4fMISSION CNASRPF.RSON.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON MINTON DECLARED THL' MOTION
CARRIID UNANZMOUSLY.
Mr. Mlnton stated another issue brought up by Ms. Chevalier was the crime
Prevention program, and he would like to hear more about this subject.
He asked Staff to arrange to have someone at the December meeting to
discuss the crime prevention program.
e. Consideration of Grants to Human Services Organizations from
1984 CDBG Funds
Mr. Plinton stated the Cormiission members F�ad received a copy of the
revised guideli.nes that incorporated the changes they had talked about
at tfie last meeting.
Mr. Hunt stated he had also included in the agenda a list of the people
who had received tfie requests for proposal,
HU�1AN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 1, 1984 PAGE 7
Mr. Hunt stated he has received one proposal from the Family Life Mental
Health Center.
f. Otfier Old Business
Mr. Hunt stated fie fiad included in the Commission's agenda the most
recent Equal Employment Opportunity Comnission report and a revised
Supplemental Personnel Data for Affirmative Action Recruitmen Statement
in which the place for name had been deleted and the age category had
been added.
2, NEW BUSINESS:
a. Review of Progress on Work Plan
Mr, Minton stated that in reviewing the 1984 work plan, the Commission
fiad almost completed the work plan,
Mr. Treuenfels stated he felt the Comnission should have one representa-
tive attending the City Council meetings pertaining to all discussions
of the City budget. It would help give the Commission a feeling of the
financial situation of the City which would be advisable when it came to
tJ�e Cortmission making recomnendations on expanding staffing, etc.
Mr. Treuenfels stated f�e would also like to see the Commission look at
the nature center/golf course issue--background information, financial
picture, etc.
Mr. Minton stated the Comnission members should be thinking of other
t'2ieas for the 1985 work plan for discussion at the next meeting.
ADJOURNMENT:
MO':ION BY MR. TREUENFELS� SECONDED BY MR. GOODSPEED, TO AATOURPI THE MEETING.
UpON A YOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON MINTON DECLARED THE NOV. Z� 1984,
flUltAN RESO[JRCES COMMISSZON MEETZNG ADJOURNED AT 8:42 P,M. .
Respectfully su mitted,
:.�- �'�i
Lyn Saba
Recording Secretary
Community Education, Ind. School District 14
6085 Seventh Street N.E. • Fridley, MN 55432
"Opening Doors for You"
TO
FROM
SUBJECT
Members, Fridley Human Resource Comnission
Tom Myhra, Director of CortIInunity Education
Update on "Latchkey" Project
October 31, 1984
612-571-6000 �
On reading the minutes of the Comnission's October 4, 1984 meeting, I
find them somewhat misleading. I recognize that the shortness of a
report can lead to over-simplication, and that the minutes in themselves
sometimes do no*_ ac:urately reflect a report and the cnsuins discussion.
For the recora I should like to submit the foilowing update:
1. In January of this year, a district latchkey program came
up for discussion in a meeting of the Corrrtnunity Education
Advisory Council. (Three times previausly in the Community
Education's 10 year existence the concern has been seriously
considered and the public surveyed with minimal results.)
2. Following the January discussion, the Council asked to r�ave
the latchkey question placed on the survey that was to be
sent to the public.
3. When the tabulated results of the survey indicated a greater
interest in a latchkey program than had been the case with
previous surveys, the Council asked the incoming president,
Caroie fulier, t� consider maKing it a part or' her adrinistra-
tion goals for the 1984-85 school year.
4. In �une of tris year Caroie attended the Multi-State Community
Educztion Conference at Itaddens to gather information on latc�-
key pregrams.
5. Late� in June a district resident met with Carole, To� 14yhra,
and 6ernie :ore Cf the Yt•!CA to hear the Community Education
Advisory Council's plans regarding a latchkey program. At
that time the resident expressed regret that we would not have
a latchkey proaram by the beginning of the school year.
6. This saRe resident suggested that we simply ask (or let) the
VMCA institute and run such a program. Our reply was that
this would short circuit the plans of the Council.
Update on "Latchkey" Project -2- October 31, 1984
7. In July/August Carole formulated the goals of her administration
which were brought to the Council for its first meeting of the
school year. The Louncil adopted the goals which included one
regarding the investigation of instituting a latchkey program.
8. At its August 23rd meeting, the Louncil moved that a sub-committee
composed of Council members shou7d investigate the feasibility of
a latchkey program, as well as the type of possible program and
its operation.
9. On November 8 the Sub-Committee which has been 9athering data
will present a report to the full Council. The report will ask
for approval to recommend on November 20th to the Board of Education
its support of a latchkey program for District 14.
10. If the doard cor�curs, tfie Sub-CosTit:ee will then develop a proeram
designed to be implemented at the beginning of the 19E5-&6 school
year. This recommendation will in turn go to the full Council and
then onto the Board of Education for approval.
I trust that this report clears up any misunderstanding the Comnission members
mig�t have that the Cortv�u�ity Education Advisory Council was not fully committed
to studyi�g a latchkey propcsai, and tha*_ it migt.t have been dropped exce�t for
intervention by community residents. While I appreciate all the credit given
to me in the minutes, its only fair to note that Carole Fuller and the Advisory
Council should get credit for what has been done.
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�e Hunan Resources Oartnission of the City of Fzidley considers the Banfill
Tavern/locke House as an extrenely valuable historical asset, and over the past
several months has given some consideration to the problems involved in the
restoration and wntinued maintenance of the site. When the Go[mission realized
the serious state of deterioration which has developed in the property in recent
years, these considerations were given a sense of urgency•
The building has been vacant sinoe 1979 when the Moka Oounty Historical Society
discontinued weekend tours of the house. Sinoe that time the house has not been
heated or woled. �e extrene tenperature changes, the lack of regular intecnal
maintenance, and incidents of vandalisn have oontributed to the current state of
deterioration and disre�ir.
Although Anoka Ooimty, which currently holds title to the building, has made
sane renovations, their budget is not sufficient to oover the estimated $200,OD0
recessazy to adequately renovate the building for an orrgoing use. �e County's
renwation schedule extends the project wer a period of 3-10 years,
Rhe Oamnission feels that the house cannot withstand the abuse of the elements
or vandalisn during this lengthy restoration period. �herefoie, the Commission
has directed its attention to several alternate coucses of action which would
prwide a more imnediate renovation schedule and lend itself to a"continuing
use" for the house—one in wi�ich f�ding would be secured for restoration and
maintenance and t1�e historic value of the house would be preserved. with the
cooperation of many interested parties the Commision has examined 5
alternatives.
1. ACCELERATE 2�iE OOUNTY'S RESRt�RATION SQiEDULE AND PRWIDE FUNDING FOP.
NFiII1PFSIAN�
Under this alternative, the Gounty of Anoka wuld prwide sufficient funds
for the oomplete restoration of the building in a one or two year period,
and thereafter sufficient funds for the maintenance of the property and
utilities in the building. Various groups and clubs of the area could be
encouraged to help maintain and use the site, and the building could be
opened occasionally as a museun, an historical tour facility, or a orn�miunity
meeting glaoe. A Januaiy, 1980, study by Miller-D�mwiddie- Architects, Inc.
estimated the wst of restoration to be between $140,700 and $153,800 at
that tirie. 2he naintenance of the facility would also require some staff
time to gerierate interest in the care and use of the historical site.
2. SIIS, �i LEP,SE �i£ AtOP£R'PY 'ib A PRNATE PARTSi.
Under Federal tax guidelines for tehabilitation of historic sites,
individuals who either hold title to a historic building or have a term
lease of 15 years are entitled to a 258 tax credit on restoration expenses
as well as strai9ht line depreciation for 15 years. Only depreciable
property qualifies for the tax credit.
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7b date the O�¢nision has received calls from four parties interested in
purchasing or leasing the Banfill Tavern/Locke House. Three of these
individuals are interested in such businesses as a boutique, a craft store,
or a bed and breakfast inn. The fourth party is the North Suburban Center
for the Arts, a non-profit arts organization interested in using the house
as a center for the creative arts. Fach one of the interested parties is
ornunitted to preserving the Tavern's historical importance through their
epecific restoration glans, and would be willing to abide by legally binding
agreenents to this effect. �ese imsolicited calls are an indication of the
interest that could be generated with this alternative.
3. SECLIRE GRAN'i5 F'R067 'II�IE b1INfIFSOTA HIS"PORIC7iL SOCIEI'Y
Each year the Minnesota legislature appropriates funds to the !II� State
Historical Society to be regranted to historical preservation projects.
�ese f�mds are awarded on a matching basis and are granted to non-profit
organizations as well as munici�lities which seek to perserve a historical
site for public use. Apglications are accepted several times during the
year.
The Commission has examined the possibility of the City of Fridley
purchasing the building fran Anoka County. If this were to happen, Fridley
would qualify for grants fran the NN State Historical Society. Last year the
Historical Society received a total of $200,000 for their grant program.
1l�is was the total amount of funding allotted for restoration projects
statewide.
7here are also several federal progr�ns which fund historical restoration
projects. One such pro9ra¢n prwides matching grants of up to 508 of total
renovation oosts. Grants must be matched by private, state, or local funds.
No federal f�cis except Caranunity Develognent Block Grants can be used as
the match. Hvaever, it must be noted that the federal goverrunent has not
prwide3 fimding for these grants for the past three years, and there is no
indication that f�ds will be made available for the next fiscal year.
4. CTtEATION OF A PRiVATE fCJUDIDA.TION
Since the closure af the Banfill Taverr�/Locke House several years ago, many
grouFs have oontacted both the Anoka Cp�mty Histoical Society and the State
Historical Society expressing interest in the house, noting their
willingness to particig3te in restoration plans. The possibility certainly
exists that a fo�mdation wuld be created, oomposed of private individauls,
volunteer groups, and various non-ptofit organizations which would be
willing to campaign for funding to restore and maintain the house in the
interest of the oarununity, the wunty, and the state. The house could be
used as a meeting glace for community groups as well as a historic tour
facility or a living museun. Zhis alternative can be done in conjuction
with all the other alternatives except Nuaber 2.
5. SQ.L 'II�IE HQ7SE RO 'IIiE NIIfINFSCIfA STATE HISRI�RICAL 90CIETY
If the Historical Society were to purchase the house, they would prwide the
necessary f�mding for restoration and would also operate the house in the
manner which they operate other historical sites in the area, thereby
preseiving its historical si�ificance. However, there are no guarantees
that the Society would be able to speed up the renavation timetable.
I�ND � CITY CY7IJNQi —3— NOS7EMBER 1,
1984
The most werriding pcoblan facing the rerwvation of the Banf ill Tavern/Locke
House is the lack of the necessary f�ding to halt the continued and devasting
effects of the elements. The intent of the Commisssion has been to present
alternate oourses of action foz oonsidecation by the Council. Each alternative
re�xesents the opportunity to acclerate the restoration process, provide a
o�ntinuing use for the building, and maintain the historic character of the
building.
At this time, it is the feeling of the majority of the Fridley Hwnan Resources
Oatmission that alternative N�unber 2 is the most attractive. This strategy
would minimize the use of tax monies, would eliminate the need to generate
interest in the pzoperty, and the living use of the building would be in line
with a trend whereb� the maintenance of historical buildings is economically
feasible. One menber of the Carntission, however, favors alternative N�miber one.
it is to this end that we the members of the Hiunan
recottunend that the Fridley City Ouuncil urge the County
oonsider the above mentioned restoration plans and
expedite the renovation of the Banfill Tavern/Lock
continuing use for the building. Whichever alternative
Himan Resources �[rmiission stands ready to assist the
glans.
So-3/1/17/10
Resources Commission
of Anoka to seriously
take action that would
e House and provide a
is selected, the Fridley
County in imglanenting its
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANP�ING COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 28, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairwoman Schnabel called the November 28, 1984, Planning Comnission meeting to
order at 7:32 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Oquist, Ms. Gabel, Mr. Minton, Mr. Nielsen,
Mr. Saba
Menbers Absent: Mr. Kondrick
Otliers Present: Jim Robinson, Planning Coordinator
See attached list
APPROVAL OF OCTOBER 17, 1984, PLAPoNING COMh1ISSI0N MINUTES:
MO.^ION BY MR. OQUZST� SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO APPROVE THE OCS. Z7, 1984, PLANNING
COIlMISSZON MINUTES AS WRITTEN,
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL V(7TZNG AYE, CHAIRIJOMAN SCXNABEL DECLARE'D THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIl10USL1'.
1. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #84-22, UNITY MEDICAL
, er ec lon ,, ,, o t e rt ey ity Code,
o a ow e cons ruc ion of an addition to Unity Hospital, approximatety
43,000 square feet, located on Parcel 600, in the North Half of 5ection 11,
the same being 550 Osborne Road N.E.
MOTION BY MR. SABA, SECONDED BY MR. MINTON� TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARI?7G
ON SP H84-22� BY UNITY MEDICAL CENTER.
UPON A VOZCE I�OTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CXAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TNE
PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 7:33 P.M.
Mr. Robinson stated the Unity Hospital complex was located on Osborne Road
just east of Highway 47, Not too many months ago, Unity Nospital had proposed
the construction of a 250-stall parking lot on the west end of the property.
Unity was granted a special use permit with stipulations. Now, Unity is fore-
seeing a possible delay in the construction of the 250-stall parking lot,
Mr. Robinson stated this proposal was for a special use permit for a 43,000
sq. ft. out patient emerge�cy and out-patient surgery addition to the east end
of the hospital. The addition is located per code. The main concern Staff has
is that the originally planned parking stalls be constructed prior to the
completion of this addition. There wi17 be a time during construction when the
hospital will be short 50-60 stalls, but they have plans to reallocate some of
the existing spaces toal]eviate this problem.
PLANNItIG COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 28, 1984 PAGE 2
Mr, Robinson stated the City has worked extensively with Unity Hospital on
landscaping, drainage, and signage for the facility, Staff feels these areas
have been covered adequately, and that this will be a good development,
Mr. Ro6inson stated Staff was recorrmending the following stipulations:
1. parking lot expansion on the west end of the property to be completed
with related stipulations prior to the completion of the out-patient
building project
2, Hospital will take the necessary steps to en;ure adequate parking
during construction, i,e., reallocation of spaces.
3. Additional landscaping to be provided on Madison St.
4, Provide the City with a$10,000 performance bond
Mr. Jim Faulwell, Vice President of Planning and Marketing for the Unity
Medical Center, exp7ained the plan for how the parking spaces wou7d be reallo-
cated during the construction period. They did not anticipate any major
problems with parking during that time.
Mr. RoDinson stated the only other issue �as one of road design. Presently,
Madison Street is four lanes, but as it nears the proposed hospital ambulance
entrance, it tapers to two lanes. The road should probably be wldened so that
ambulances can turrt without co�petinq with other traffic on the road. It wou7d
be in the hospitaT's best interest to have it widened.
Mr. Faulwell stated they would be wil]ing to look at thet.
Mr. 1•1lnton asked if Unity Hospital was in agreement with the stipulations
recommended by staff.
Mr, Faulwell stated they were in agreement with these stipulations,
Mr, Faulwell stated
addition. They have
6y August 1985.
they anticipate March l, 1986, for completion of the
agreed that the proposed parking lot will be completed
Ms. Schnabel asked when Unity planned to complete the reconfiguration of the
parking lot in front on Osborne.
Mr. Faulwell stated they witl probab7y do al) the parking changes at approxi-
mately the same time.
MOTION BY MR. MINTON, SECONDED BY MR, SABA, TO CLOSE THE PtTBLZC HEARZNG ON
SP #8A-22� UNITY MEDICAL CENTER, BY JOXN HAINES.
UPON A VOSCE VOTE, ALL VOTSNG AYE, CHRIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLZC
HERRZNG CLOSEB AT 7:50 P.M.
PLAfJNII�6 COMNIISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 28, 1984 PAGE 3
MOTZON BY MR. MINTON, SECONDED BY MR, OQUIST, TO RECOAfMEND 7b CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF A REQUEST FDR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP k84-22� UNITY MEDICAL
CENTER, HY JOHN XAINES� P$R SECTZON 205,07,1� 3� B� OF THE FRZDLEY CZTY CODE,
it� ALLOW TXE CONSTRUCTION OF AN AD➢ISION TO UNITY HOSPITAL, APPROXIMATELY
43�000 SpUARE FEET, LOCATED ON PARCEL 600, IN THE NORTH ffRLF OF SECTION I1,
TNE SAME BEING 550 OSBORNE ROAD N.E.� WTTH THE FOLZ.OWZNG STIPULATIONS:
1, PARXING ZOT EXPANSION ON THE WEST END OF TNE PROPERTY TO BE
COMPLETED FIITX RELATED STIPULATIONS BP ADG�ST 32, 1985.
2, HOSPITAL WZLL TAKE THE NECESSARY STEPS TO ENSURE RDEQUATE PARKING
DURTNG CONSTRUCTION, I.E „ REALIACATION OF SPACES.
3. ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING TO BE PROVZDED ON MADISON S2.
4, PROVIDE TXE CITY WZTH A$I0,000 PERFORMANCE BOl,'D.
5. MADISON ST, BE WZDENED TO TNE AMBULANCE ENTRANCE.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE� CXAIRWOAfAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY,
Ms. Schnabe'. stated this item would go to City Council on December 17.
2. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #84-23, CHAMPION AUTO
G S KR 5: Per Section 05, .,, D, of t e Fri ey City Code to
a ow a repair garage in conjunction with a retail business on Lot 18,
Block 5, Rice Creek Plaza South Addition, the same being 6528 University
Avenue N.E, in Hol]y Center.
MOTZON BY MR. OQUISS, SECONDED BY MR. NSELSEN� TO OPEN TXE PUBLIC HEARING ON
SP N84-23, CHAMPION RUTO, BY DOUGLAS KRASKA.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE� CXAZRIJOMAN SCHNAHEL DECLARED THE PUBLZC
HEARZNG OPEN AT 7:52 p.M.
Mr. Robinson stated thts proposal invo]ved a business within the Holly Center.
Holly Center is zoned C-3 (general shopping) and fs surrounded by residential,
single family on the north and R-3 on the west. This proposal was for a repair
garage facility to be located in the rear of the complex adjacent and behind
Champion Auto Store. The garage door entran�e would be to the north.
Mr. Robinson stated Staff was recommending the following stipuiations:
1. Hours of operation to be compatib]e with neighborhood setting--
to be determined.
• 2. Any hazardous waste be managed in a manner consistent with State Law.
3. No outside storage be allowed
Mr. Mike Scott of Jackson, Scott, & Associates, stated he was the Manager and
Leasing Agent for Holly Shopping Center, What they are proposing to do is
lease the space that was occupied by House of Large Sizes for office purposes
to Champion Auto for a service center in conjunction with the retail store.
PLANNING COMMISSIOtJ MEETING, NOVEMBER 28, 1984 PAGE 4
Mr. Scott stated this space is on the north side of the shopping center and
comprises about 4,000 sq. ft. that would incorporate three overhead garage
doors for public access to cars. They can service up to six cars in this
facility. There will be no overnight storage. The traffic will essentially
be the traffic of the customer driving into the garage for service and the
customer may wait for the car in one of the offices they will have built there.
There may be an additional sign on the west end of the shopping center to
direct people to the service entrance.
Mr. Douglas Kraska stated that in the store he has now, there is a door that
leads into the shop so qenera7ly the customer will be parking on the side or
in front of the building, will come in and get the service order written, and
then the mechanic will drive the car around to the back of the building. After
the car is serviced, it will be parked along the side of the building. He
stated they will be doing light repair such as starters, oil changes, etc.
There �rill be no heavy work such as tearing down engines. The cars will be in
and out on the same day.
Ms. 5chnabel asked where the cars would be parked for people who are leaving
their cars for the day while the work is being done.
Mr. Kraska stated the cars will be parked on the west side of the building
where there are presently parking spaces.
Ms. Schnabe] asked about signage on the nortf� side where the bays and the
overhead garage doors are located.
Mr. Kraska stated they were thinking of using non-illuminated letters that
are attached to the building to show that this was the entrance to the service
center. The letters for the sign are generally about one foot high. The sign
would say: Cf�ampion Auto Service Center.
Mr. Oquist asked if there was any need for a firewall.
Mr. Robinson stated those questions have been addressed and worked out with
the Building Inspector,
Ms. Gabel asked where the cars would be roadtested.
Mr. Kraska stated most of the repairs will not require roadtesting. However,
there might be some roadtesting, and they would probably use University Ave.
Ms. Schnabel asked what hours they anticipated to have the service center open,
Mr. Kraska stated the regular Champion Auto Store hours are 8:30 - 4:Q0 Monday
through Friday, 8:30 - 6:00 on Saturday, and 10;00 - 5:00 on Sunday. On week-
nights the shop is general]y shut down by 8:00 because there is some cleanup
that needs to 6e done.
Ms. Schnabel asked Mr. Kraska if he had any experience in thistype of business
in another location.
Mr. Kraska stated he did.
PLANNING COhS1IS5I0N MEETIMG, NOVEMBER 28, 1984 PAGE 5
Mr. Oquist asked if there was any additional lighti�g that would be needed
in the rear of the building.
Mr. Kraska stated the existing lighting was adequate.
Mr. Robiztson stated was�always some concecn with noise leve7s rrith this type of
operation.
Mr. Kraska stated there really shouldn't be much noise noticeable from out-
side the building. They will be operating with their doors closed. The
nature of their repair work usua7ly does not create a lot of noise.
Ms. Schna6el asked if there were any concerns from people in the audience.
Mr. Stanley peterson stated he was representing his mother, Signe Peterson,
who lived at 240 - 67th Ave. N.E. He stated there is going to be a noise
impact to the neighborhood. 7he service doors will be open in the summertime.
There will be times when tires are screecfiing. Sorne mechanics drive cars
quietly and some do not. Ne stated he worked in a garage so he knew what it
was like. Right now the area behind the shopping center is relatively quiet.
If they will be doing tune-ups, the cars will have to be test driven so there
will be a lot of driving around, He felt the Planning Cortmission should give
this proposal a little more consideration,
Mr. Kraska stated that with the modern equipment and diagnostics, there was
very little roadtesting of vehicles.
Mr. Scott stated that Mr, Kraska will be controlling the employees who will
be driving the cars, test driving, or working on the cars. Mr. Kraska does
have that type of control.
Mr. Oquist stated the City does have a noise ordinance that would control the
noise level at the property line if noise became a problem,
Mr. Peterson stated he would also be concerned about the exhaust coming out
of the pipe in the building, especially in the wintertime.
Ms. Schnabel asked how many mechanics would be working on a day shift.
Mr. Kraska stated he would have two full-time mechanics during the day and
two part-time mechanics at night. To start with, he will only be using two
bays and will use the other bays for storage.
Mr. Kraska stated that a lot of the work done will be as a service to the
Champion Auto Store customers. When a customer buys parts, there is a facility
to install those parts.
Ms. Schnabel stated to Mr. Aeterson that the Planning Comnission did understand
his concerns. The Pianning Commission was also concerned about noise. If
the noise should ever become a problem, he should iet the City know so the
noise level could be monitored.
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PLANNIfJG CONP1ISSION FIEETIN6, NOVEMBER 28, 1984 PAGE 6
MOTION BY MR. SABA, SECONDED BY MR. MZNTON� TO CLOSE THE PUBLSC HEARING ON
SP k84--23, CNAMPION AUTO� BY DOUGLAS KRASKA.
UPON A VOZCE [�OTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE� CXAIRWOMAN SCHNRBEL DECLARED THE PUBLSC
HEARING CLOSED AT 8:18 P.M.
MOTION BY MR, SABA, SECONDED BY HR. OpUIST� TD RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL THE
APPROVAL OF A REflUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMST� SP ii84-23, CHAe�ION AUS1�� BY
DOUGIl4S KRASKA, PER SECTION 205.25.I, 3� D, OF THE rRIDLEY CITY CODE TO ALLOfV
A REPAIR GARAGE ZN CONJUNCTZON WITH A RESAIL BUSINESS ON LOT 18, BLOCIC 5,
RZCE CREEK PLAZA SOUTH ADDITION� SHE SAME BEZNG 6528 UNIV£RISTY AVENUE N.E.
IN HOLLY CENT'ER, WITH THE FULIAWING STIPULATIONS:
1. TNE HDURS OF OPERA2ZOt7 BE THE SAME AS SSORE HOURS,
2. ANY HRZARDOUS WASTE BE MANAGED IN A MANNER CONSISTENT WITH STATE LAW,
3. NO OUTSIDE S2YJRAGE BE ALZ[XVED.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, SCHNABEL, OQUZST, MZNTON, NZEZSEN, AND SABA VOTING RYE,
GABEL ABSTAINZNG, CHAZRWOMAN SCNNABEL DECLARED TXE MOTZON CARRIED.
3. PUSLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #84-24, BY ROBERT SCHROER:
Per Section , , o e rt ey ign r�nance, to a ow an dutomatic
changeable sign on Lot 1, Block 1, East Ranch Estates, the same being Bob's
Produce Ranch at 7620 Uriversity Avenue N.E.
MOTION BY MS, GABEL� SECONDED BY I�II2. NIELSEN, TO OPEN THE PUBLIC XEARSNG ON
SP $84-24 BY ROBERT SCHROER.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CNAZRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLZC
HEARING PPEN AT 8:20 P.M.
Mr. Robinson stated this property was located on Osborne Road off University
Avenue. The property was zoned C-3 and was surraunded by other comnercial
properties. He stated the proposal was to replace the existing sign with a
sign quite a bit smaller--from about 300 sq. ft, to 165 sq, ft. The existing
sign has severai variances which were approved rn 1972. Those variances were
for the height from 25 ft. to 2R2 ft „ from 700 sq, ft. in area to 276 sq. ft.,
and to a]low a changeab]e message board.
Mr. Robinson stated the new sign has the distinction of having an electronic
message which ner.essitates the special use permit, but the message cannot
change more frequently than once every 15 roinutes and cannot move.
Mr. Robinson stated that regarding the variances that were approved in 1972,
this was discussed by the Staff, and it was Staff's concensus that the variances
were carried over since the sign was being reduced in size.
Ms, 6abel stated that was not true. The variances started all over again with
a new sign. She would disagree with the interpretation of the sign ordinance
by the Staff.
Ms. Schnabel stated she believed Ms. Gabel was correct.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETIN6, NDVEMBER 28, 1984 PAGE 7
Mr, Robinson stated they would research the sign ordinance further before
the City Counci] meeting.
Mr, Robinson stated Staff was recommending the fo1lo��inq stipulations:
i. Curb all hard surfaced areas with 6 inch poured concrete curb,
repair or replace damaged curbing,
2. Provide a hard surface for ail areas being used by vehicles
3. Remove all refuse and debris (fire hazard) from the north side
of the building.
4, Provide a 5 ft. setback from the building for parking areas.
5, arovide more landscaping, especially a7ong Osborne.
6. Reduce vehfcle entrance to 32 ft. maximum width.
7. Remove all other advertising signs from Water Works right of way
and parking lot,
8. Remove the Meat Market wali sign, (no permit issued for it)
9, Message shall not change more than once every 15 minutes minimum.
10. Provtde the City a$10,000 perforntance bond.
11. All unauthorized signs and refuse to be removed prior to the
issuance of pending sign permit, if granted. Other improvements
to be done by June 1985,
Mr. Schroer stated p2 referred to the back area. It was not part of East
Ranch Estates First Addition, so it w�s really not part of this complex.
It was used for overflow parking, He stated this area will probably be
developed within a year or so, and he would hate to blacktop it and then
have to tear out the blacktop wlien the area is developed.
Mr. Schroer stated that regarding #4, if he provided a 5 ft. setback from
the building for parking areas, he would not meet the parking requirements.
The City approved the parking close to the buiTding 15 years ago, and now
they want to change it.
Mr. Schroer stated that regarding #5, he has had trouble landscaping along
Osborne because of the St. Pau] Waterworks. He also had a real problem with
screening parking lots.
Mr, Schroer stated that regarding #l, curbing all hard surfaced areas with
6 inch poured concrete curb, a coup]e of years ago, the County and the City
wanted to widen the service road and move the curbing back, so he cou7dn't
put the curbing in at that time. Ne was even willing to give the City and
County 20 ft, of his property to get another right hand turn lane onto
PLANNING COMMISSIDN MEETING, NOVEMBER 28, 1984
PAGE 8
Osborne. 7hen, the County and the City dropped the idea of widening the
road. He stated all the water drains to the northern part of the property
underneath the sign area, If he put in curbing, it would retain the water.
Mr. Schroer stated that Frank's Nursery will be leaving in a year, and he
wil] be taking over the whole building. He stated he has plans for extensive
remodeling af the buiiding, One bf the first steps is to replace the sign.
He asked why the City was trying to make it so hard for businesses.
Mr. Robinson sted we seek similar improvements of all businesses. When a
business comes in for a special use permit, they try to upgrade the property
to today's code. This was the reason for all these stipulations.
Ms. Schnabel stated that what Mr. Robinson said was true. It was consistent
with what they have been doing for everyone who comes in for a special use
permit, They are trying to bring properties into code.
Ms. Schnabel stated that maybe the City should get a letter fram St, Paul
Waterworks stating St, Paul Waterworks has no problem with landscaping along
Osborne Road.
Mr, Robinson stated maybe the City should see Mr. Schroer's long range plans.
Mr, Schroer stated the City could review the plans as soon as they are ready.
and morendevelopmentttotthennoriht maybeestipulationsd1��29 4, and 6ushould
be incorporated into an overall plan for review by the Commission on June 1,
1985. Stipulation 5 should be accomplished by June 1, 1985, and stipulations
3, 7, 8, 9, T0, and 11 should remain the same.
MOTION 8Y MS, GABEL� SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST� TO CLOSE TXE PUBLIC HEARING
ON SP #B4-2G BY ROBERT SCHROER.
UPON A VOZCE VOSE, ALL VOTZNG AYE, CHAZRWOMAN SCXNABEL DECLARED THE pUBLIC
HEARING CLQSED AT 9:20 p,,y,
MOTION BY MR. MZNTpN, SECONDED BY MR, pQUZST� TO RECOFIMEND TO CITY COUNCSL
APPROVAL OF A RE'QUEST FI�R A SPECIAL USE PERMST� SP M84-24� BY ROBERT SCHROER,
PER SECTIDN 21q,07,Z� OF THE FRIDLEY SIGN OIZDZNANCE, Tp �LpW Ahr AUTOMATSC
CHANGEABLE g,r(.T�+ p�y LpT j� BI,GiK 1, EAST liANCH ESTATES� THE SAME BEING BOB'S
PRODUCE RANCH AT 7620 UNIVERSITy AVENUE N.E „ WITH THE FOLLOP7TNG CONDZTZONS:
THE FpLLOWING STIPULATZONS BE ENFORCED AT THSS TIME;
1. REMOVE AND MAINTi,ZN ALL REFUSE AND DEBRZS (FIRE XA2ARD) FItOM TXE
NpRTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING,
Z• REMOVE RLL OTHER ADYERTISING SZGNS FROM WATEgWpgKg R�GHT OF LvdY
AND PAp,KING I,OT.
3• REMOVE THE MEAT MARXET WALL SIGN (ND PERNIT ISSUED FOR ST).
4. MESSAGE SXALL NOT CXANGE MORE THAN p,yCE EVERY 25 MINUTES MIl7IffUM.
MESSAGE SNALL BE NON-MOVING DURING IS MINU2E INTERVAL,
5, pROVIDE THE CZTY WITH A S10�000 PERFORMANCE BOPID.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 28, 1984 PAGE 9
THE FOLIAWING STIPULATZONS BE INCORPORATED INTO A PLAN FOR REiPZEW
BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION BY JUNE I, 3985:
1. CURB ALL HARD SURFACED AREAS WITH A 6 INCH POURED CONCRETE CURB�
REPAIR OR REPIACE DAMAGED CURBTNG.
2. PROVIDE R HARD SURFACE FOR ALL AREAS BEZNG USED BY VEHICLES,
3. PROVZDE A 5 FT, SETBACK FROM THE BUILDZNG FOR PARKING ARSAS,
4. liEDUCE VEXZCL£ ENTRANCE TO 32 FT MAXIMUM WIDTH.
THE FOLLOWING STIPULATSON TO BE COMPLETED BY JUNE 1� Z985:
2. PROVIDE MORE LANDSCAPING, ESPECIALLY AI,ONG OSBORNE,
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAZRWOMAN SCNNRBEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNRNIMOUSLY,
Ms. Schnabel stated there was still the question of whether or not this was a
replacement of the sign and thence, in terms of the Sign Ordinance, would
require a variance. Section 214.13 of the Sign �rdinance should be reviewed
agafn by Staff. She would feel comfortable leaving this decision up to Staff,
4. VACATION REQ_UE_�ST__: SAV #84-06, BY PATRICIA AND MARY KU7A: Vacate 67th Avenue
a3jacent to Lots �an �3b, o��, �a Grk'ove i�dait on, along with vacated
1/2 alley, to be used for open area at 6689 Anoka Street N.E.
Mr, Robinson stated this was a single family house located off a cul-de-sac
bounded by 67th Ave. on the north and Anoka St, on the east. The proposal was
to vacate 67th Ave. from Anoka St. to the vacated a7]ey and to utilize the
property as open space, A similar proposal came before the Planning Commission
Tast spring for the property directly to the west, and that portion of 67th
Ave. was successfully vacated,
Mr. Robinson stated Staff had no problems with this vacation request. The
only stipulation was that a utility easement be r.etained within the area for
a water line. The City will draw that up and notorize it at City Hall. He
stated the ordinance shoii�d also be recorded at the County, and the petitioners
will need a new survey.
MOTZON BY MX. SABA, SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST, SO RECOMMEND TO CISY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF VACATZON REQUEST� SRV N84-06� BY pATRICK AND MARY KUTA, TO
VRCATE 67TH AVENUE N.E. AATACENT TO L(Yl5 29 AND 30, BLOCH Z, OAK GROVE
ADDITZON� ALONG WITX VRCATED 1/2 ALLEY, TO BE US£D FOR OPEN AREA AT 6689
ANOXA STREET N.E., WITH THE fl�LIAWING STIpULATIONS.
1. A UTSLSTY EASEMENT BE RETAINED ZN THE VACATED PORTION.
2, TXE ORDINANCE BE RECORDED AT THE COUNTY.
UPON.A VOICE VOTE, ALL V02ZNG AYE, CHAIRWOMRN SCHNRBEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETIN6, NOVEMBER 28, 1984 PAGE 10
5, DISCUSSION OF AN ORDINANCE RECODIFYING THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE BY ADOPTING A
Mr, Robinson stated that in 1982 State Legislature passed a statute requ9ring
surface water management of alt land in the metro area. This legislation
formulated the Six Cities Watershed Management Organization which together
with the Rice Creek Watershed 3istrict, encompassed the surface water manage-
ment for all of Fridley. The intent of this legislation is to manage the
surface water quality and quantity of run-off.
Mr. Robinson stated the City's storm water system is not complete, but much
of that which has been implaced is 2� years old. Accordingly, the required
maintenance of the storm water system will increase in the years ahead.
Mr. Robi�son stated cities can set up their own utility companies for storm
water, and that is what is being proposed in this ordinance. He stated the City
of Roseviile established a storm water drainage utility this year. Every devel-
opment in the City of Fridley would have a storm water utility fee tacked onto
its water bill and the fee would be paid quarterly. The amount would depend on
the area and the land use. Basically a single family home would pay $1.75/mo.
or 7.00/yr. Other land uses would pay based on the product of thfs Resi�ential
Equivalency Facor times acreage time rate. There were also some possibilities
for some credits for industrial and cornmercial properties.
Mr. Robinson stated he thought the storm water utility was a good idea, because
it would not raise taxes and there would be no assessments for system maintenance
and upgrading.
Ms. Schnabe] stated that on page 69 of the a enda, there was a sheet entitied
"Preliminary 5torm Drainage Utility Budget" �from the City of Richfield). The
budget included spring and fall sweeping and sumner sweeping. Was the City of
FridTey going to have those things, too? Is the City going to also have leaf
pick-up?
Mr, Robinson stated he did not know the answer to that question.
Mr, Saba stated that if the money for storm water system maintenance currentTy
comes out of the general budget, why can't that continue? He stated he saw
this storm drainage utility as another way to increase revenue without saying
the City will increase taxes. If part of the budget is going to go for storm
water system maintenance, why not tell people up-front and let them know
that taxes are being increased in a minor amount for this type of maintenance
and continue to take the money out of the general revenue as the City has been
�doing? He did not see why another fee shou7d be tacked onto the water/sewer
bi17. This could snowball, and what is to stop every detrimental function from
coming up with a special fee on the water/sewer biTl? Ms. Schnabel had talked
about leaf pick-up. Seriously, that could be the next fee tacked onto the
water/sewer bili, Then a street cleaning fee, etc., etc.
Mr. Minton stated he agreed with Mr. Saba, He did not like the princip7e of
revenue enhancement through this method. If the City is gofng to increase
its revenue, the regular avenue of doing that is through the property tax.
He did not think there was a good basis for chargfng a speciai fee for this
type of detrimental service.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 28, 1984 PAGE 11
Ms. Schnabel read the following excerpt from "Why is a utility needed?" in
materials from the City of RosevTlle (page 64 of the agenda): "Today, storm
water costs are paid for using general tax money--property taxes. These new
costs, when combined with the nearly $200,000 Raseville must spend for ongoing
storm drainage maintenance each year, represents a major expenditure of tax
money. Roseville must find a way to meet these rising costs in a fair and
equitable manner without adding additional burden to the property tax rolls."
She stated that what they are saying is they are replacing a tax raise with
this storm drainage utility, and it is the same thing.
Mr. Saba stated the concept was interesting, but he did not really go along
with it. It was a non-tax deductible fee. It was not a one ii�e fee. This fee
would be collected annually forever. They are creating a fund of mcney for
the city government to spend because it is there. It is like a department
budget, if the department has $50,000 that has to be spent that year or the
department will lose the money, that department will definitely find a way to
spend the money. The money is easier to spend if it is there already in a pool
than if you have to justify it or request it or budget it,
Ms. Oquist stated he tended to agree with Mr. Saba. This was a surcharge that
was going to be there all the time, The fund is going to be established to
spend; whereas, if the money had to be budgeted, the money would be used more
Togically,
Ms. Schnabei stated that if this fee is �assed and a fund is created, how is
the City going to spend this morey they are saving? What kind of services are
going to be given the citizens in exchange--better snowplowing, for example?
Mr, Minton stated it was important to maintain the infrastructure and keep ii
in good shape, and it was important to pay for that maintenance, but he would
rather have the City do it more openly.
Mr. Robinson stated Fridley is unique in that there are a lot of ponds in the
cit,Y._ There is a lot of ma_i.ntenance needed on a pond--the filtration systems ___
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erosion problems, mowing, etc.
Mr, Oquist stated that a lot of the ponds have been around for a long ti,me,
and the maintenance on those ponds is ongoing and has been ongoing. 50, that
type of money could come out of general funds. This fee sounds like it is
intended for storm sewers and tearing up streets to repair storm sewers. So,
the City needs to set aside some money just in case they need to do that.
Ms. Gabel stated
Commission, Are
replaced soon?
that was the kind of information that would be useful to the
there storm sewers that indeed are damaged and need to be
Mr, Minton stated a question that could be asked is: What would be done in
the future that is nbt being done now?
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING,NOVEMBER 28, 1984
PAGE 12
Mr. Oquist stated that the citizens of Fridley pay taxes to maintain their
storm sewers, and now the City wants to set aside more money to repair the
storm sewers. What will the citizens get in return? He stated he would pay
$7/yr, if the City would save him $7/yr, on his taxes.
Ms. Gabel asked if there were any plans that show what the City has to do in
the next 5-10 ye�rs on the storm sewer system and what is it going to cost?
If the City's sewer system was aging, what does that mean? What kind of
repairs will be done annually on the storm sewer system? What are the pro-
jected repairs in the next 10 years? Right now, there were too many unanswered
questions for her to make any kind of decision on this.
Mr, Minton stated he would like to know something ahout the life expeetancy
of a storm sewer system. If Fridley's system is 20 years old, that is not very
old for a storm sewer system.
MOTION BY MR. MINTON, 5ECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO CONTINUE DISCU5SION ON THE
STORM WATER DRAINAGE UTILITY AT THE NEXT MEETING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWQMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNAIJIMOUSLY,
6. RECEIVE OCTOBER 17; 1984, NOUSING & REDEVElOP�1ENT AUTHORiTY MINUTES:
MOTION BY M9.GABEL, SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO RECEIPE THE OCT. 1I, 19B4,
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AU'Z'HORITY MINUTES.
UPON A POICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCXNABEL DECLhRED THE MOTFON
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
7. RECEIVE OCTOBER 9, 1984; COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. OQUI5T� SECONDED BY MR. MINTON� TO RECEIVE THE OCT. 9, 1984,
COMMUNZTY DEYELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLAI2ED THE MOSIDN
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8. RECEIVE OCTOBER 16, 1984, ENVIRONM€NTAC QUACITY COMNIISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. NIEZSEN� SECONDED BY MR. SA$A� TO RECEII7E THE OCT. 16� 1984�
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMS5SION MINUTES.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTSNG AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTFON
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 28; 1984 PAGE 13
9. RECEIVE OCTOBER 23; 1984, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
�MOTION BY MS. GABEL, SECONDED $Y MA. NIEISEN, TO RECEIVE THE OCT, 23, Z984,
APPEAIS COMMISSION MINUQ'E5,
UPON A VOICE vOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTSON
CARRIED UNANIMOU5LY.
10. RECEIVE OCTOBER 23 1984, ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. 5ABA� SECONDfiD BY MR. MINTON� TO RECEII7E TXE OCT. 23� 1984�
ENERGY COMMI5SION MSNUTES,
UPON A VOICE VOSE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHN1dBEL DECI.r1RED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOU5LY.
11. RECEIVE NOVEMBER 13, 1984, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY M5, GABEL, SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST� TO RECEIVE THE NOV. 13� I9B4,
APPEAIS COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TXE MOSION
CARRSED UNANIMOUSLY.
12, RECEIUE NOVEMBER 1, 1984, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTIDN BY MR. MINTON, SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO RECEIVE SHE NOV. 1, 3954,
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTE5.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE, RLL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANSMOUSLY.
Mr. Minton stated that attached to the Human Resources Commission minutes was
a memorandum dated Nov, 1, 1984, addressed to the Mayor and City Council on
the subject of the Banfill Tavern Recommendations. He stated the Commission
has been working on this for several months. The Commission's basic idea was
to come up with some alternatives that might be palatable to the County to
get the Banfill House in repair and used. They came up with five alternatives.
Mr. Minton reviewed these five alternatives with the Flanning Commission:
l. Accelerate the County's restoratfon scE�edule and provide funding
for maintenance.
2. Sell or lease the property to a private party.
3. Secure grants from the Minnesota Historical Society.
4. Creation of a private foundation
5. Sell the house to the Minnesuta State Historical Society
Mr. Minton stated that Dave Torki7dson, Anoka County parks & Recreation
Dfrector, seemed more in favor of alternative #1, Basically, the Commission
was not 6ecause it was using the house like a museum and that has not worked
in the past.
PLANNIryG COMMISSIGN MEETING, NOVEMBER 28, 1984 PAGE 14
Mr, Minton quoted paragraph 2 on page 3 of the memorandum: "At this time,
it is the feeling of the majority of the Fridley Human Resources Commission
that alternative #2 is the most attractive. This strategy would minimize the
use of tax monies, would eliminate the need to generate interest in the
prop�rty, and the living use of the building would be in line with a trend
whereby the maintenance of historical buildings is economically feasible.
One member of the Comnission, however, favors alternative #1."
Ms. Schnabel stated she was very impressed with the work that has been done by
Mr. Minton and the Human Resources Commission. The Commission has done a lot
of in-depth study and come to these conclusions in a relatively short period
of time, and that was very impressive.
Mr. Minton stated there was a motion on page 4 of the Hgaman Resources
Commission minutes approving the memorandum and forwarding it to the City
Councii. He would like the Commission to concur with this motion.
MOTION BY MR. MINTON� SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST� TO CONCUR WISH THE XUMAN RESOURCES
COMMISSZON AND ApPROVE THE MEMORANDUM TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBEX5
REGARDING THE BANFILL TAVERN RECOMMENDATION5 AtVD FORWARD IT TO THE CSTY COUNCSL.
UPON A VOICE VOTE,ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRI$D UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr, Minton stated that Liz Chevalier of the Police Dept. had given a lengthy
report at the October Comnission meeting on the prevention programming in the
etementary schools. The Commissfon members iearned this programming was only
being held in two of the four pub)ic elementary schools in Fridley and not at
a17 in the private schools. The Commission thought the programming was excellent
and a motion was made and passed that this programtning be expanded to the other
schools, both public and private, in the City of Fridley 9f financially feasible.
Ms, Gabel stated she liked the concept of all children having this prevention
programming, but she was opposed to the concept of pu6lic funds going to
private schools.
MOTION BY MR. MINSON TO ENDORSE THE MOTION MADE BY THE HUMAN RE50URCES
COMMI5SION THAT THE HUMAN RESOURCES COMM7SSION WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PREVENTION
PROGRAMMING E.7�ANDED TO ALL THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS WITXIN 2XE CISY LIMZSS OF
FRIDLEY� BOTH PRIVATE AND PUBLIC� BECAUSE OF THE IMPORSANCE OF THI5 PROGRAMMING�
AND WOULD RECOMMEND THAT ADDITIONAL STAFF BE ASSIGNED TO THIS IMPORSANT WORK.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF R SECOND,
Mr. Saba stated he agreed with Ms. Gabel. They were already paying taxes
for public schools, and this would be subsidizing private schools.
Mr. Robinsori stated maybe private schools could send representatives to
workshops and �e trained in this type of programming.
Mr. Oquist stated that maybe the private schools should be notified of the
prevention programming and, if they are interested, recommend they send people
to workshops to be trained in this type of programming.
PLANNING COMMISSIUN MEETING, NOVEMBER 28, ]984 PAGE 14
Mr. Minton quoted paragraph 2 on page 3 of the memorandum: "At this time,
it is the feeling of the majority of the Fridley Human Resources Commission
that alternative #2 is the most attractive. This strategy would minimize the
use of tax monies, would eliminate the need to generate interest in the
property, and the living use of the building would be in line with a trend
whereby the maintenance of historical buildings is economically feasible.
One member of the Comnission, however, favors alternative kl."
Ms. Schnabel stated she was very impressed with the work that has been done by
Mr. Minton and the Human Resources Commission. The Comnission has done a lot
of in-depth study and come to these conclusions in a relatively short period
of time, and that was very impressive.
Mr. Minton stated there was a motion on page 4 of the H�iman Resources
Commission minutes approving the memorandum and forwarding it to the City
Council. He would like the Commission to concur with this motion.
MOTION BY MR. MINTON� SECONDED BY MR. OQUTST, Tp CONCUR WZTX THE HUMAN RESOURCES
COMMISSZON AND APPROVE THE MEMORANDUM TO TNE MRYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
REGARDING THE BANFILL TAVERN RECOMMENDATIONS AND FORWARD IT TO TXE CZTY COUNCIL,
UPON A VOZCE VOTE,ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TXE MOTION
CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY.
Mr. Minton stated that Liz Chevalier of the Police Dept. had given a lengthy
report at the October Cortmission meeting on the prevention programming in the
elementary schools. The Comnission members learned this programming was only
being held in two of the four public elementary schools in fridley and not at
all in the private schools. The Commission thought the programming was excellent
and a motion was made and passed that this programning be expanded to the other
schools, both public and private, in the City of Fridley if financially feasible.
Ms. Gabel stated she liked the concept of all children having this prevention
programming, but she was opposed to the concept of public funds going to
private schools.
MOTION BY MR. MINTON TO ENDORSE THE MOTION MADE BY THE HUMAN RESOURCES
COMMISSION THAT THE NUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION WOULD LIKE SO SEE THE PREVENTION
PROGRAMMING EXPANDED TO ALL THE ELEMENTARY SCNOOLS WITNZN THE CZTY LIMZTS OF
FRIDLEY, BOTH PRIVATE AND PUBLIC� BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE Ofi THIS PROGR.RMPI7NG,
AND WOULD RECOMMEND THRS ADDZTIONAL STAFF BE ASSZGNED TO THIS IMPORTRNT 470RK,
MOTZON DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND,
Mr. Sa6a stated he agreed with Ms. 6a6e1. They were already paying taxes
for public schools, and this would be su6sidizing private schools.
Mr. Robinson stated maybe private schools could send representatives to
workshops and be trained in this type of programming.
Mr, Oquist stated that maybe the private schools shouTd be notified of the
prevention prograrixning and, ff they are interested, recorranend they send people
to workshops to be trained in this type of programming.
PLANNIN6 GOMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 28; 1984 PAGE 15
13. OTHER BUSINESS:
Ms. Schnabel stated that at the Planning Commissi.on's request, she attended
the Oct. 21 City Council con,`erence meeting. She did express the Commission's
concern about the City being the leader in beautification and upholding the
Zoning Code. She was told tiiere was a plan for the city billboard on
University Ave., and supposedly it will be improved. She stated she had
driven by the sign recently; and the message had been changed, but the sign
was still "tacky".
ADJOURNMcNT:
Chairwoman Schnabel declared the November 28, 1984, Planning Commission meeting
adjourned at 11:00 p.m.
Respectfully subm'tted,
yn Sa a
Recording Secretary
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