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PL 12/19/1984 - 6845City of Fridley AGENDA PLANNING COhTiIS5I0N MEETING WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 19, 1984 - CALL TO ORDER: ROLL CALL: APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: N�VEMBER 28, 1984 1. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PfRAlIT, SP N84-25, MAT PROPERTIES, BY JAMES TRA P: Per Sect�on 205.15,1, 3,E, of the Fridley City Code, to allow the reopening of a service station on the South 120 feet of Lot 18, Block 5, Rice Creek Plaza South, the same being 6500 University Avenue N.E. 2. LOT SPLIT 2. BY WINFIELD 7:30 P.M. PAGES 1 - 15 16 - 24 INC.. 25 - 30 (ATTN: RICK MA81tN5): 5plit ort tne norLneriy so ree� o� �u 4, Block l, Paco Industrial Park, and add it to Lot 3, and Lot 2, except the Northerly 50 feet, the additionaT land to be used for parking for 7200 University Avenue N.E. 3. LOT SPLIT REQUEST: L.S. #84-13, RANDY ANDERSON: Split off the Southerly 36 feet of Lot 5, Block 5, Melody Manor, to make 0 ft. iot line between each side of a double bungalow the same being 7396-7398 Symphony Street N.E. 4. 5. RECEIVE_ H : DISCUSSION )PMENT AUTHOR DIFY MINUTES: NOVEMBER 8 6. RECEIVE PARK & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES: NOVEMBER 20, 1984 7. RECEIVE ENVIRONMENAL QUiRLITY COMMISSION MINUTES: NOVEMBER 20, S. 9. 10. 11. 12. RECEIUE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: NOVEMBER 27, 1984 RECEIVE ENERGY COMMISSION MINl1TE5: NOUEMBER 27, 1984 RECEIVE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES: DECEMBER 6, 1984 RECEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: DECEMBER 11, 1984 OTHER BUSINESS: ADJOURNMENT: 31 - 3 6 37 - 65 WHITE GREEN BLUE YELLOW ORCHID SALMON YELLOW (at meetii CITY OF FRIDLEY PLAFINING COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 28, 1984 CAIL TO �RDER: Cfiairwoman Schnabel called the November 28, 1984, Planning Comnission meeting to order at 7:32 p.m. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Oquist, Ms. Gabel, Mr. Minton, Mr. Nielsen, Mr. Saba Menbers Absent: Mr, Kondrick Otfiers Present: Jim Robinson, Planning Coordinator See attached list APPkOUAL OF OCTOBER 17, 1984, PLAtdNING COr4,i1SSI0N MINUTES: MO�'ION BY MR. OQUIST� SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO APPROVE TFIE OCT. 17� I989� PLA1+IvZNG COItMISSZON MZNUTES AS WRITTEN, UPON A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMWJ SCXNABEL DECLARED THE MOTZON CARRIEP UNiW7lfOUSLI'. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST fOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #84-22, UNITY MEDICAL , er ec �on ,, ,, o t e rt ey ity Code, o a ow e cons ruc ion of an addition to Unity Hospital, approximately 43,000 square feet, located on Parcel 600, in the North Half of Section 11, the same being 550 Osborne Road N.E. MOTION BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MR. MZN2�N� TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARZt1G ON SP N89-77� BY UNITY MEDICAL CENTER, UPON A VOZCE YOTE� AZZ VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLAP.ED TXE PUBLIC XEARING OPEN AT 7:33 P.M. Mr. Robinson stated the Unity Hospital complex was located on Osborne Road just east of Highway 47. Not too many months ago, Unity Hospital had proposed the construction of a 250-statl parking lot on the west end of the property. Unity was granted a special use permit with stiputations. Now, Unity is fore- seeing a possible delay in the construction of the 250-stall parking lot. Mr. Robinson stated this proposal was for a special use permit for a 43,000 sq. ft. out patient emergency and out-patient surgery addition to the east end of the hospital. The addition is located per code. The main concern Staff has is that the originally planned parking stalls be constructed prior to the completion of this addition. There will be a time during construction when the hospital will be short 50-60 stalls, but they have plans to reallocate some of the existing spaces toalleviate this problem. PLANNII�G COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 28, 1984 PAGE 2 Mr. Robinson stated the City has worked extensively with Unity Hospital on landscaping, drainage, and signage for the facility. Staff feels these areas have been covered adequately, and that this will be a good development. Mr. Robinson stated Staff was recottmending the following stipulations: 1, Parking lot expansion on the west end of the property to be completed with related stipulations prior to the completion of t�e out-patient buildinq project 2. Hospital will take the necessary steps to en;ure adequate parking during construction, i.e., realTocation of spaces. 3. Additional landscaping to be provided on Madison St. 4. Provide the City with a�10,000 performance bond Mr. Jim Faulwell, Vice President of Planning and Marketing for the Unity Medical Center, explained the plan for how the parking spaces would be reallo- cated during the construction period. 7hey did not anticipate any major problems with parking during that time. Mr. Robinson stated the only other issue was one of road design. Aresently, Madison Street is four lanes, but as it nears the proposed hospital ambulance entrance, it tapers to two lanes. The road should probably be wldened so that ambulances can turn without conpetinq with other traffic on the road. It would be in the hospital's best interest to have it widened. Mr. Faulwell stated they would be willing to look at that. Mr. I•1lnton asked if Unity Hospital was in agreement with the stipulations recommended by staff. Mr. Faulwell stated they were in agreement with these stipulations. Mr. Faulwell stated they anticipate March 1, 1986, for completion of the addition, They have agreed that the proposed parking lot will be completed by August 1985. Ms. Schnabel asked when Unity pTanned to complete the reconfiguration of the parking lot in front on Osborne. Mr. Faulwell stated they will probably do all the parking changes at approxi- mately the same time. XOTZON BY MR. HINTON� SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO CLOSE THE PIIBLIC HEARING ON SP N84-22, UNITY MEDICAL CENTER, BY JONN HAZNES. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CNAZRWO!?AN SCHNRBEL DECLARED TXE PUBLZC HEARING CLOSED AT 7;50 P.M. PLA��NIIJG COMIIISSION MEETIN6, NOVEMBER 28, 1984 PAGE 3 MOTION BY HR. NINTON, SECONDED BY NR. OQUIST� TO RECO1fMEND TD CZTY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF A RE(%UEST FDR A SPECIAL USE PSRMZT� SP H84-21� UNITY MEDICRL CENTER, BY JOXt7 HAINES, PER SECTICIY 205,07,2� 3, B� OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE, R17 AL7AW TX£ CONSTRUCTION OF At7 ADDITION TO UNI^Y NOSPITRL� APPROXIbtATELY 43�000 SQUARE FEET, IUCATED ON PARCEL 600� IN THE NORTX HALF OF SECTION 12� THE SAME BEING 550 QSBORNE ROAD N.E„ WITH THE FOLZOWING STZPULATIONS: 1. PARKING IA T EXPANSION ON TXE WEST END OF TXE PROPERTY TD BE COMPLETED WITX RELATED STIPULATIONS BF ADG�ST 31, 1985. 2, XOSPITAL WILL TAKE THE NECESSARY STEPS TO ENSURE ADEQUA:E PRP.KItlG DURINC CONSTRIICTI(XJ, Z.E., REALZOCATION OF SPACES. 3. RDDITZONAL LANDSCAPIiJG 1YJ BE PROVIDED ON MADZSON ST. 4. PROVZDE THE CITY WZTN A 510,000 PERFORMANCE BOI:D. 5. MADISON ST, BE WIDENED RL� THE AMBULANCE ENTRANCE. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CNAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLAP.ED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Ms. Schnabe'. stated this item would go to City Council on December 17. 2. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP q84-23, CHAMPIOfJ AUTO, GL S KR 5: Per Section 05. 5. ,, D, of t e Fri ey City Lode to a ow a repa�r garage in conjunction with a retail business on Lot 18, Block 5, Rice Creek Plaza South Addition, the same being 6528 University Avenue N.E. in Holly Center. MOTIOn BY MR. OQUZST, SECONDED BY MR. NZEISEN, TO OPEN THE PUBLIC XERRZNG ON SP N84-23, CHAMPZON AUTO, BY DOUGLAS KRASKA. UPON A VDICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNC AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCXNABEL DECLARED TH£ pUBLZC HEARSNG OPEN AT 7:52 P.M. Mr. Robinson stated this proposal involved a business within the Holly Center. Holly Center is zoned C-3 (general shopping) and is surrounded by residential, single family on the north and R-3 on the west. This proposal was for a repair garage facility to be located in the rear of the complex adjacent and behind Champion Auto Store. The garage door entrance would be to the north. Mr. Robinson stated Staff was recomnending the following stipulations: 1. Hours of operation to be compatible with neighborhood setting-- to be determined. • . Any-hazardous waste be managed in a manner consistent with State Law. 3. No outside storage be allowed Mr. Mike Scott of Jackson, Scott, & Associates, stated he was the Mana;er and Leasing Agent for Holly Shopping Center. What they are proposing to do is lease the space that was occupied by House of Large Sizes for office purposes to Champion Auto for a service center in conjunction with the retail store. PLANNING COMMISSION PIEETING, NOVEMBER 28, 1984 PAGE 4 Mr. Scott stated this space is on the north side of the shopping center and comprises about 4,000 sq, ft. that would incorporate three overhead garage doors for public access to cars. They can service up to six cars in this facility. There will be no overnight storage. The traffic will essentially be the traffic of the customer driving into the garage for service and the customer may wait for the car in one of the offices they will have built there. There may be an additional sign on the west end of the shopping center to direct people to the service entrance. Mr. Douglas Kraska stated that in the store he has now, there is a door that leads into the shop so generally the customer will be parking on the side or in front of the building, will come in and get the service order written, and then the mechanic wi11 drive the car around to the back of the building. After the car is serviced, it will be parked along the side of the building. He stated they will be doing light repair such as starters, oil changes, etc. There �rill be no heavy work such as tearing down engines. The cars will be in and out on the same day. Ms. Schnabel asked where the cars would be parked for people who are leaving their cars for the day while the work is being done. Mr. Kraska stated the cars will be parked on the west side of the building where there are presently parking spaces. Ms. Schnabel asked about signage on the north side where the bays and the overhead garage doors are located. Mr. Kraska stated they were thinking of using non-illuminated letters that are attached to the building to show that this was the entrance to the service center. The letters for the sign are generally about one foot high. The sign would say: Cf�ampion Auto Service Center. Mr. Oquist asked if there was any need for a firewall. Mr. Robinson stated those questions have been addressed and worked out with the Building Inspector. Ms. Gabel asked where the cars would be roadtested. Mr. Kraska stated most of the repairs will not require roadtesting. However, there might be some roadtesting, and they would probably use University Ave. Ms. Schnabel asked what hours they anticipated to have the service center open. Mr, Kraska stated the regular Champion Auto Store hours are 8:30 - 9:00 Monday through Friday, 8:30 - 6:00 ort Saturday, and 10:00 - 5:00 on Sunday. On week- nights the shop is generally shut down by 8:00 because there is some cleanup that needs to be done. Ms. Schnabel asked Mr. Kraska if he had any experience in thistype of business in another location. Mr. Kraska stated he did. PLANNIIJG CO►R4ISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 28, 1984 PAGE 5 Mr. Oquist asked if there was any additional lighting that would be needed in the rear of the building, Mr. Kraska stated the existing lighting was adequate. Mr. Robii�son stated was always some concern with noise levels with this type of operation. Mr. Kraska stated there really shouldn't be much noise noticeable from out- side the building. They will be operating with their doors closed. The nature of their repair work usually does not create a lot of noise. Ms. Schnabel asked if there were any concerns from people in the audience. Mr. Stanley Peterson stated he was representing his mother, Signe Peterson, who lived at 240 - 67th Ave. N.E. He stated there is going to be a noise impact to the neighborhood. The service doors will be open in the sumnertime. There will be times when tires are screeching. Sorne mechanics drive cars quietly and some do not. He stated he worked in a garage so he knew what it was like. Right now the area behind the shopping center is relatively quiet. If they will be doing tune-ups, the cars will have to be test driven so there will be a lot of driving around. He felt the Planning Cortmission should give this proposal a little more consideration. Mr. Kraska stated that with the modern equipment and diagnostics, there was very little roadtesting of vehicles, Mr. Scott stated that Mr. Kraska will be controlling the employees who will be driving the cars, test driving, or working on the cars. Mr. Kraska does have that type of control. Mr, Oquist stated the City does have a noise ordinance that would control the noise level at the property line if noise became a problem. Mr. Peterson stated he would also be concerned about the exhaust coming out of the pipe in the building, especially in the wintertime, Ms. Schnabel asked how many mechanics would be working on a day shift. Mr. Kraska stated he would have two full-time mechanics during the day and two part-time mechanics at night. To start with, he will only be using two bays and will use the other bays for storage. Mr. Kraska stated that a lot of the work done will be as a service to the Champion Auto Store customers. When a customer buys parts, there is a facility to install those parts. Ms. Schnabel stated to Mr. Peterson that the Planning Cortmission did understand his concerns. The Planning Camnission was also concerned about noise. If the noise should ever become a problem, he should let the City know so the noise level could be monitored. PLANNING C0�IISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 28, 1984 PAGE 6 MOTZAV BY AII2. SABA� SECONDED BY MR. MINTON, 1YJ CIASE TNE PUBLIC NEARSNG ON SP M84-23� CHAMPZON AUTO, BY LI�UGLAS KRASKA, UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE� CRAIRW0IYAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC BEARINC CLCiSED AT 8:18 P.M. MOTZON BY MR. SABA, SECONDED BY HR. OQUIST, TO RECOMMEND TO CZTY COUNCIL THE APPROVAL OF A REQUEST FUR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT� SP #89-13� CNAMP706 RU2YJ� BY DOUGZAS KRASKA, pER SECTION 205.15.1� 3, D, OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE TO ALIAW R REPAIR GARACE IN CONJUNCTION WITX A RETASL BUSINESS ON LOT 18� BLOCK 5, RICE CREEX PLAZA SOUTH ADDZTION� TNE SAME BEING 6528 UNIVERISTY RVENUE N.E. -.IN NOLLY CENTER, WITX TNE F1�LLOWSNG STIPULASIONS: 1. THE HOURS OF OPERAT7077 BE THE SAME AS STORE HOURS. 2. ANY XAZARDOUS WASTE BE MANACED ZN A MANNER CONSISTENT WITX STATE IAW. 3. NO OUTSIDE STORAGE BE ALIAWED, UPON R VOICE VOTE, SCHNRBEL� OQUZST� MINTON� NIEISEN� AND SABA VOTING RYE, GABEL ABSTAZNING� CHAZRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRZED, 3, PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERh1IT, SP N84-24, BY ROBERT SCHROER: Per Section . , o e rl ey ign r inance, to a ow an automatic changeable sign on Lot 1, Block 1, East Ranch Estates, the same being Bob's Produce Ranch at 7620 Uriversity Avenue N.E. MOTICYV BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY FII2. NIEISEN� TO OPEN THE PUBLIC XEARING ON SP 8B9-29 BY ROBERT SCNROER. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CNAIRWOMAN SCXNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLZC HEARZNG OPEN AT B:20 P.M. Mr. Robinson stated this property was located on Osborne Road off University Avenue. The property was zoned L-3 and was surrounded by other commercial properties. He stated the proposal was to replace the existing sign with a sign quite a bit smaller--from about 300 sq. ft. to 165 sq. ft. The existing sign has several variances which were approved in 1972. Those variances were for the height from 25 ft. to 2B; ft., from 100 sq. ft. in area to 276 sq. ft., and to allow a changeable message board. Mr. Robinson stated the new sign has the distinction of having an electronic message which ner.essitates the special use permit, but the message cannot change more frequently than once every 15 minutes and cannot move. Mr. Robinson stated that regarding the variances that were approved in 1972, this was discussed by the Staff, and it was Staff's concensus that the variances were carried over since the sign was being reduced in size. Ms. Gabel stated that was not true. The variances started all over again with a new sign. She would disagree with the interpretation of the sign ordinance by the Staff. Ms. Schnabel stated she believed Ms. Gabel was correct. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 28, 1984 PAGE 7 Mr. Robinson stated they would research the sign ordinance further before the City Council meeting. Mr. Robinson stated Staff was recomnending the follo��ing stipulations: 1. Curb all hard surfaced areas with 6 inch poured concrete curb, repair or replace damaged curbing. 2. Provide a hard surface for all areas being used by vehicles 3, Remove all refuse and debris (fire hazard) from the north side of the building. 4. Provide a 5 ft. setback from the building for parking areas. 5. �rovide more landscaping, especially along Osborne. 6. Reduce vehicle entrance to 32 ft. maximum width. 7. Remove all other advertising signs from Water Works right of way and parking lot. 8. Remove the Meat Market wall sign. (no permit issued for it) 9, Message shall not change more than once every 15 minutes minimum. 10. Provide the City a 510,000 performance bond. 11, Al1 unauthorized signs and refuse to be removed prior to the issuance of pending sign permit, if granted. Other improvements to be done by June 1985. Mr. Schroer stated M2 referred to the back area. It was not part of East Ranch Estates First Addition, so it w�s really not part of this complex. It was used for overflow parking. He stated this area will probably be developed within a year or so, and he would hate to blacktop it and then have to tear out the blacktop wfien the area is developed. Mr. Schroer stated that regarding #4, if he provided a 5 ft, setback from the building for parking areas, he would not meet the parking requirements. The City approved the parking close to the building 15 years ago, and now they want to chan9e it. Mr. Schroer stated that regarding #5, he has had trouble landscaping along Osborne because of the St. Paul Waterworks. He also had a real problem with screening parking lots. Mr, Schroer stated that regarding #l, curbing all hard surfaced areas with 6 inch poured concrete curb, a couple of years ago, the County and the City wanted to widen the service road and move the curbing back, so he couldn't put the curbing in at that time. He was even willing to give the City and County 20 ft. of his property to get another right hand turn lane onto VNIIJG COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 28 � Osborne. 7hen, the County and the City dropped the idea of widening the road. He stated all the water drains to the northern part of the property underneath the sign area. If he put in curbing, it would retain the water, Mr, Schroer stated that Frank's Nursery wi11 be leaving in a year, and he will be taking over the whole building. He stated he has plans for extensive remodeling of the building. One of the first steps is to replace the sign. He asked why the City was trying to make it so hard for businesses. Mr. Robinson sted we seek similar improvements of all businesses. When a business comes in for a special use permit, they try to upgrade the property to today's code. This was the reason for all these stipulations. Ms, Schnabel stated that what Mr. Robinson said was true. It was consistent with what they have been doing for everyone who comes in for a special use permit. They are trying to bring properties into code, Ms. Schnabel stated that maybe the City should get a letter from St. Paul Waterworks stating St. Paul Waterworks has no problem with landscaping along Osborne Road. Mr. Robinson stated maybe the City should see Mr. Schroer's long range plans. Mr. Schroer stated the City could review the plans as soon as they are ready. Mr. Robinson stated that, in light of the future remodeling of the building and more development to the north, maybe stipulations 1, 2, 4, and 6 shou7d be incorporated into an overall plan for review by the Comnission on June l, 1985. Stipulation 5 should be accomplished by June 1, 1985, and stipulations 3, 7, 8, 9, 10, and 11 should remain the same. MO:ION BY MS, GABEL, SECONDED BY MR. Oj�UZSS� TO CLOSE TXE pUBLIC HEARING ON SP #84-7G BY ROBERT SCHROER. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CXAIRWOMAN SCXNABEL DECIARED THE pUBLIC HERRING CL0.SED AT 9:20 P,M. MOTION BY MR. NINTbN, SECONDED BY MR, OpUIST� TO RECOIfMEND 2b CITY COUIJCIL APPROVRL OF A REpUEST FYJR A SPECIRL USE PERMZT� SP N84-24, BY ROBERT SCNROEP., PER SECTION ?14,07,2� OF TNE FRIDLEY SZGN ORDINANCE, T1� ALLOW p7d AUTOMATZC CXANGEABLE SIQJ ON LpT I� BIACK 1� EAST RILYCX ESTRTES� TNE SRME BEING BOB'S PRODUCE RANCH AT 7620 UNIVERSITY AVENUE N,E,� WZTX TXE FOLLOWINC CONDITIO:JS: THE FOLIAWZNG STIPUTATIONS BE ENFORCED AT TflIS TIME: 1. REMOVE AND MAINTeaIN ALL REFUSE AND DEBRZS (FZRE XAZRRDJ FROM TXE NORTH SIDE OF TXE BUILDING. 2. REMOVE ALL OTXER ADS'ERTZSINC SIGNS FROM WATERWORXS RIGHT OF [v.iY AND PARKZNG LpT, 3. REMOVE THE MEAT MARKET WALL SIQJ (NO PERMIT ISSUED FOR IT), 4. MESSAGE SXALL NOT CFtANCE MORE THAN ONCE EVERY 15 MINUTES MI1J761UM. MESSAGE SHALL BE NOfV-MOVING DURING 15 MZNUTE INTERVRL, 5. PROVIDE TNE CITY WITH R 510�000 PERFORMANCE BOt7D, PLANN?`6 COMMISSION MEETING. NOVEMBER 28. 1984 4. PAGE 9 THE FOLIAWING STIPULATIIXVS BE INCORPORATED INRV A PLAN FOR REVZEW BY THE PLANNING COMMSSSZON BY JUNE 1, 1985: I. CURB ALL HARD SURFRCED AREAS WITH A 6 INCH POURED CONCRETE CURB, REPRZR OR REPIACE DAMAGED CURBING. 2. PROVIDE A HARD SURFACE FOR ALL AREAS BEING USED BY VEXICLES. 3. PROVIDE A 5 FT. SETBACK FROM TNE BUILDZNG FL�R PARKING AREAS. 4. REDUCE VEHICLE ENTRANCE TO 32 FT MAXIMUM WIDTH. THE FOLI.OWING STZPUTA TION TO BE COMPLETED BY JUNE 2, 1985: 1. PROVZDE MORE LANDSCAPINC� ESPECIALLY AI.ONC OSBORNE. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE� CNAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNAIYZMDUSLY. Ms. Schnabel stated there was still the question of whether or not this was a replacement of the sign and thence, in terms of the Sign Ordinance, would require a variance. Section 214.13 of the Sign Ordinance should be reviewed again by Staff. She wouid feel comfortable leaving this decision up to Staff. VACATION R a �a3� cent t 1/2 alley, EQUEST: SAV #84-06, BY PATRICIA AND MARY KUTA: oZots �3�, �Tock-�, �6a GcT rove 7�'ddi ti on to be used for open area at 6689 Anoka Street Vacate 67th Avenue alonq with vacated N.E. Mr. Robinson stated this was a single family house located off a cul-de-sac bounded by 67th Ave. on the north and Anoka St, on the east. The proposal was to vacate 61th Ave, froM Anoka St. to the vacated alley and to utilize the property as open space. A similar proposal came before the Planning Commission last spring for the property directly to the west, and that portion of 67th Ave. was successfully vacated. Mr. Robinson stated Staff had no problems with this vacation request. The only stipulation was that a utility easement be r.etained within the area for a water line. The City will draw that up and notorize it at City Hall. He stated the ordinance shoii�d also be recorded at the County, and the petitioners will need a new survey. MOTION BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST� TO RECOMMEND TO CSTY CO[T.JCIL APPROVAL OF VACATION REQUEST� SRV A84-06, BY PATRICY, AND MARY KUTA� TO VACATE 67TX AVENUE N.E. RATACENT TO L(YlS 29 A�YD 30, BI.00K 2, DAY. GP.OVE RDDITION� AIqNG WITN VACATED i/2 AI.LEY� TO BE USED FOR OPEN AREA RT 6689 ANOKA STREET N.E., WZTH THE F17LLOWING STIPULATIONS. 2. A UTILITY EASEMENT BE RETAINED IN THE VACASED PORTZON. 2. TNE ORDZNANCE BE RECORDED AT TXE COUNTY. UPON.A VOICE VOTE, RLL VOTING AYE, CXAZRWOMAN SCHNRBEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 28, 1984 PA6E 10 5, DISCUSSION OF AN ORDINANCE RECODIFYING THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE BY ADOPTING A m rrr-rr. - -- Mr. Robinson stated that in 1982 State Legislature passed a statute requiring surface water management of atl land in the metro area. This legislation formulated the Six Cities Watershed Management Qrganization which together with the Rice Creek Watershed 3istrict, encompassed the surface water manage- ment far all of Fridley. The intent of this legislation is to manage the surface water quality and quantity of run-off. Mr. Robinson stated the City's storm water system is not complete, but much of that which has been implaced is 20 years old. Accordingly, the required maintenance of the storm water system will increase in the years ahead. Mr. Robinson stated cities can set up their own utility companies for storm water, and that is what is being proposed in this ordinance. He stated the City of Roseville established a storm water drainage utility this year. Every devel- opment in the City of Fridley would have a storm water utility fee tacked onto its water bill and the fee would be paid quarterly. The amount would depend on the area and the land use. Basically a single family home would pay $1.75/mo. or 7.00/yr. Other land uses would pay based on the product of this ResiAential Equivalency Facor times acreage time rate. There were also some possibitities for some credits for industrial and commercial properties. Mr. Robinson stated he thought the storm water utility was a good idea, because it would not raise taxes and there would be no assessments for system maintenance and upgrading. Ms. Schnabel stated that on page 69 of the a enda, there was a sheet entitled Preliminary Storm Drainage Utility Budget" �from the City of Richfield). The budget included spring and fall sweeping and sumner sweeping. Was the City of Fridley going to have those things, too? Is the City going to also have leaf pick-up? Mr. Robinson stated he did not know the answer to that question. Mr. Saba stated that if the money for storm water system maintenance currently comes out of the general budget, why can't that continue? He stated he saw this storm drainage utility as another way to increase revenue without saying the City will increase taxes, If part uf the budget is going to go for storm water system maintenance, why not tell people up-front and let them know that taxes are being increased in a minor amount for this type of maintenance and continue to take the money out of the general revenue as the City has been doing? He did not see why another fee should be tacked onto the water/sewer bill. This could snowball, and what is to stop every detrimental function from coming up with a special fee on the water/sewer bill? Ms. Schnabel had talked about leaf pick-up, Seriously, that could be the next fee tacked onto the water/sewer bill. Then a street cleaning fee, etc., etc. Mr. Minton stated he agreed with Mr. Saba. He did not like the principle of revenue enhancement through this method. If the City is going to increase its revenue, the regular avenue of doing that is through the property tax. He did not think there was a good basis for charging a special fee for this type of detrimental service. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 28, 1984 PAGE il Ms. Schnabel read the following excerpt from "Why is a utility needed?" in materials from the City of Roseville (page 64 of the agenda): "Today, storm water costs are paid for usin9 general tax money--property taxes. These new tosts, when combined with the nearly $200,000 Roseville must spend for ongoing storm drainage maintenance each year, represeots a major expenditure of tax money. Roseville must find a way to meet these rising costs in a fair and equitable manner without adding additional burden to the property tax rolls." She stated that what they are saying is they are replacing a tax raise with this storm drainage utility, and it is the same thing. Mr. Saba stated the concept was interesting, but he did not really go alonv with it. It was a non-tax deductible fee. It was not a one tine fee. This fee would be collected annually forever. They are creating a fund of mcney for the city government to spend because it is there. It is like a department budget, if the department has $50,000 that has to be spent that year or the department will lose the money, that departme�t will definitely find a way to spend the money. The money is easier to spend if it is there already in a pool than if you have to justify it or request it or budget it. Ms. Oquist stated he tended to agree with Mr. Saba. This was a surcharge that was going to be there all the time. The fund is going to be established to sQend; whereas, if the money had to be budgeted, the money would be used more logically, Ms. Schaabel stated that if this fee is passed and a fund is created, how is the City going to spend this morey they are saving? What kind of services are going to be given the citizens in exchange--better snowplowing, for example? Mr. Minton stated it was important to maintain the infrastructure and keep it in good shape, and it was important to pay for that maintenance, but he would rather have the City do it more openly. P1r. Robinson stated Fridley is unique in that there are a lot of ponds in the city. There is a lot of maintenance needed on a pond--the filtration s.ystem, erosion problems, mowing, etc. Mr. Oquist stated that a lot of the ponds have been around for a long time, and the maintenance on those ponds is ongoing and has been ongoing, So, that type of money could come out of general funds. This fee sounds like it is intended for storm sewers and tearing up streets to repair storm sewers. 50, the City needs to set aside some money just in case they need to do that. Ms. Gabel stated that was the kind of information that would be useful to the Comnission. Are there storm sewers that indeed are damaged and need to be replaced soon? Mr. Minton stated a question that could be asked is: What would be done in the fut�re that is not being done now? PLANNII�G COMMISSION MEETING,NOVEMBER 28, 1984 PAGE 12 Mr. Oquist stated that the citizens of Fridley pay taxes to maintain their storm sewers, and now the City wants to set aside more money to repair the storm sewers, What wil7 the citizens get in return? He stated he would pay E7/yr, if the City would save him $7/yr, on his taxes. Ms. Gabel asked if there were any plans that show what the City has to do in the next 5-10 years on the storm sewer system and what is it going to cost? If the City's sewer system was aging, what does that mean? What kind of repairs will be done annually on the storm sewer system? What are the pro- jected repairs in the next 10 years? Right now, there were too many unanswered questions for her to make any kind of decision on this. Mr. Minton stated he would like to know something about the life expe�;ancy of a storm sewer system. If Fridley's system is 20 years old, that is not very oid for a storm sewer system. MOTION BY MR, MINTbN� SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION ON THE STORM WRTER DRAINAGE UTILITY AT TXE NEXT MEETING. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE, CHAZRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TNE MDTIOPJ CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY, 6. RECEIUE OCTOBfR 11, 1984, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMEPJT AU7HORITY MINUTES: MOTION BY MB,GRBEL, SECONDED BY MP.. SABA� TO RECEIVE THE OCT. 11� 1989, HDUSSNG 6 REDEVEZAPMENT AUT'XORSTY MINUTES. VPON A VDICE VOTE, ALL VpTING RYE� CXAIRk'OMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TNE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY, 7. RECEIVE OCTOBER 9, 1984, COMMUNITY DEUELOPMEP�T COMMISSION MIPJUTE MOTION By MR. OQUIST� SECONDED BY MR. MINTON� TO RECEZVE THE OCT. 9, 1984� COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MZNUTES. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTSNG AYE� CXAZRWOMAIJ SCXNABEL DECLARED THE MOTZOIJ CARRIED UNA7JIMOUSLY. 8. RECEIYE OCTOBER 16, 1984, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY MR, NIELSEN� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO RECEIVE TXE OCT. 26� 2984, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES. . UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCFINABEL DECLARED THE MOTZON CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY, PLANNING COMMI55ION 14EETING, NOV�4BER 28, 1984 PAGE 13 9. RECEIVE OCTOBER 23, 1984, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY HS, GABEL� SECONDED BY HR. NZELSEN, TO RECEIVE Tf1E OCT, 23, 1984, APPEALS COMMZSSION MINUTES. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING RYE, CHAIRh'OMAN SCHNABEL DECI.ARED THE MOTION CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY. 10. RECEIVE OCTOBER 23, 19&4, ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MR. MINTON� TD RECEIYE THE OCT. 23, 1984, ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES. UPON R VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAZRWOMAN SCHNTiBEL DECI.�.RED TF1E MOTZON CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 11, RECEIVE NOVEMBER 13, 1984, APPEALS CONMISSIUN MINUTES: MOTION BY MS, GABEL� SECCNDED BY MR. Oy�UZST� TO RECEIVE TNE NOV, 13� 1989, RPPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES. UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG RYE� CNAIRfJOMAN SCHNABEL DECLIRED THE MO:"ZOT; CARP,SED UNANIMOUSLY, 12. RELEIVE NOUEMBER 1, 1984, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTZON BY MR. MZNTON, SECONDED BY MR, SABA, TO RECEIVE TXE NOV, 1, 2984, NUMAN RESOURCES COAUfZSSION MIVUTES. UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCNNABEL DECLARED TXE MOTZON CARRZED UNANZMOUSLY. Mr. Minton stated that attached to the Human Resources Comm'ssion minutes was a memorandum dated Nov. 1, 1984, addressed to the Mayor and City Council on the subject of the Banfill Tavern Recommendations. He stated the Comnission has been working on this for several months. The Commission's basic idea was to come up with some alternatives that might be palatable to the County to get the Banfill House in repair and used. They came up with five alternatives. Mr. Minton reviewed these five alternatives with the Flanning Commission: 1. Accelerate the County's restoration schedule and provide funding for maintenance. 2. Sell or lease the property to a private party. 3. Secure grants from the Minnesota Historical Society. 4. Creation of a private foundation 5. Sell the house to the Minnesota State Historical Society Mr. Minton stated that Dave Torkildson, Anoka County Parks & Recreation Director, seemed more in favor of alternative M1. Basically, the Commission was not because it was using the house like a museum and that has not worked in the past. PLANNING COMMISSI�N MEETIN6, NOVEMBER 28, 1984 PAGE 14 Mr. Minton quoted paragraph 2 on page 3 of the memorandum: "At this time, it is the feeling of the majority of the Fridley Human Resources Commission that alternative N2 is the most attractive. This strategy would minimize the use of tax monies, would eliminate the need to generate interest in the property, and the living use of the building would be in line with a trend whereby the maintenance of historical buildings is economically feasible. One member of the Cortmission, however, favors alternative #1." Ms. Schnabel stated she was very impressed with the work that has been done by Mr. Minton and the Human Resources Commission. The Comnfssion has done a lot of in-depth study and come to these conclusions in a relatively short period of time, and that was very impressive. Mr. Minton stated there was a motion on page 4 of the N�iman Resources Commission minutes approving the memorandum a�d forwarding it to the City Council. He would like the Cortmission to concur with this motion, MOTIDN BY MR. MINTON, SECONDED BY HR. OQUIST, TO CONCUR WZTX TNE HUMAN RESOURCES COMF:ISSIDN RND APPROVE TNE MEMORANDUM TO TNE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEb1BER5 REGARDZNG TNE BANFILL TAVERN RECOMMENDASIONS AND FORWARD IT TO TNE CITY COUNCIL. UPON R VOICE VOTE�RLL VOTING AYE� CNAIRWOMAN SCHNRBEL DECLARED THE MOTZON CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Mr. Minton stated that Liz Chevalier of the Police Dept. had given a lerigthy report at the October Corrmission meeting on the prevention programming in the elementary schools. The Comnission members learned this programming was only being held in two of the four public elementary schools in Fridley and not at all in the private schools. The Comnission thought the programming was excellent and a motion was made and passed that this prograrrming be expanded to the other schools, both public and private, in the City of Fridley if financially feasible. Ms, Gabel stated she programming, but she private schools. liked the concept of all children having this prevention was opposed to the concept of public funds going to MOTZON BY MR. MZNTON TO ENDORSE TNE MOTION MADE BY TNE HUMAN RESOURCES COMY•ZSSION THAT THE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO SEE TXE PREVENTION PROGRAMMING EXPAIJDED TO ALL THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS WZTXIN THE CITY LIMITS OF FRSDLEY� BOTH PRIVATE RND PUBLIC, BECAUSE OF THE ZMPORTRNCE OF TNIS PROGRBMAfING, AND WDULD RECOMMEND THAT ADDITIONAL STAFF BE ASSZGNED TO THIS IMPORTANT WORK. MOTION DZED FOR IACK OF A SECOND. Mr. Saba stated he agreed with Ms. Gabel. They were already paying taxes for public schools, and this would be subsidizing private schools. Mr. Robinson stated maybe private schools could send representatives to workshops and be trained in this type of progrartming. Mr. Oquist stated that maybe the private schools should be notified of the prevention programning and, if they are interested, recommend they send people to workshops to be trained in this type of pro9ramming. PLANNING C0�4ISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 28, 1984 PAGE 15 13. OTHER BUSINESS: Ms. Schnabel stated that at the Planning Comnission's request, she attended the Oct. 21 City Council con`erence meeting, She did express the Commission's concern about the City being the leader in beautification and upholding the Zoning Code. She was told there was a plan for the city billboard on University Ave., and supposedly it will be improved. She stated she had driven by the sign recently; and the message had been changed, but the sign was still "tacky", ADJOURNI4�NT: Chairwoman Schnabel declared the November 28, 1984, Planning Commission meeting adjourned at 11:00 p.m. Respectfully submjtted, �� ' �• � r i '% /. �, ynne Sa a Recording Secretary /�,/,� ]� �!� ��„ � U/a'77Ul�xo,s...= '��YT - " � �� y ��i / y�'� �/� � .%s"°i c�y� �`'� � ��Q Sc MRo£R �//:�i� ��/0�/ � ��c:.� L..��,.a.-�c{ �� .: �� =� �' � � �� i� �� %/�� li�� //�/f �� /v�l.A.-(/V� � `` �O �%�/`- � � C� J.� (�'�� yso C��EE L�/'cLE.k i3�3%� s��'� Al�� r� 7 7 7 S/f'i1„ sP. � � yo - � �� z �.�. GG� 9 (}�,,,,� 17' !�� s�3 �� (.�_5 � L'�cUcr-/r-v L� 5T ,vE �� . � 9�s �� r` �..� iv� � ; Ii�r...+/ /'�� _.,.! `,, ,. -� /L`/C/-�.��i¢v P �o . G�7 'L/ L�<�ls�-r cui 7 �G �a-cc�.cv:.e� <v � . 1�e.K,1 /�n� �z. z � �:, yyw,, s� ��;, %� ��T�� ' � � > J � �y �� 1t � � '� Z �� Z t, � PUBLIC HEARING BEfOR� TH: PLANNIM1•� LOMM„SSIOt� Notice is hereby 9��en that there will be a Public Hearing of the Planning Lorrc�,ission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431 University Avenue Northeast on Wednesday, December 19, 1984 in the Council Chamber at 7:30 P.k. for the purpose of: Consideration of a Special Use Permit, SP a84-25, MAT Properties, by James Trapp, per Section 205. 15.1, 3, E, of the Fridley City Code, to allow the reopening of a service station, on the South 120 feet of Lot 18, Block 5, Rice Creek Plaza South, the same being 6500 University Avenue Northeast. Any and a?1 persons desiring to be heard shall be 9�ve� ac cppor:unit;� at the above stated time and place. L'IRG;!.1F SC-i',��:� CN� i Rn�NI�'� PLA��ING COMN,ISSIO�: Publish: December 3, 1984 December 10, 1984 16 MAILING LIST SP #84-25, MAT Properties, by James Trapp James Trapp 8018 5unny SideRoad Minneapolis, Mn 55432 Jaroslaw Abramshuk 298 67th Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Donald L. Evans 290 67th Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Michael Dogherty 270 67th Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Byron D. Butters 26� 67th Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Pamela J. Eilers 250 67th Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Signe E. Peterson 240 67th Avenue N:E. Fridley, Mn 55432 James B. Gumphrey 230 67th Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Grace A. Youngbloom 220 67th Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 John P. Johnstone 580 69th Avenue N:E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Kathleen M. Peterson 200 67th Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Planning Commission & �erry 6uirtront 2187 Lake Brook Drive New Brighton, Mn 55112 Progressive Property c/o Duane Narog 1465 North Danube Road N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 17 �orr��r 30,i984 Appeals Commission Chester J. Gromek 3600 36th Avenue N.E. Minneapolis, Mn 55418 Harvey H. Peterson 151 Glen Creek Road NE Fridley, Mn 55432 Joseph M. Lapinski 201 Mississippi N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Heartland Realty Investment, Inc. 4802 Nicollet Avenue Minneapolis, Mn 55426 Phillips Petroleum Company 755 Ballas Road South St. Louis, MO 63141 Theisen Partnership Norma Swanson 361 Rice Creek Terrace Fridley, Mn 55432 + �SUBJECT �CITY OF FRIDLEY� �ID1 YNIVEASITY AVE. N�. FAIDIEY. MN. 6�3! {6�1,671-30i� SPECIAL USE PERMIT � SP � �� S ADDRE55 �c5oo (�r�Vccs��v.�hue , DATE 11-1�1-$y PLANNING COM�IISSION: APPROVED DISAPPROVED DATE N0. CITY .COUNCIL: 5TI?JLRTi0fi5: APPROVED DISAPPROVED DATE NO NAME mA� Pras�c�� es �i FEEa�� RECEIPT NO (�� STREET LOCATION OF PROPERTY �05� Uti�vecS� Q�S �� LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF.PROPERTY ia �' � PRESENT ZONING LLASSIFICATION�EXIS ING USE Of PROPERTY%Ia�.-��+-*v- .dl.�-"'' ACREA�E OF PROPERTY r DESCRIBE BRIEfLV THE SPECIAL USE APPLIED FOR: � Sectio� of the Code• �$, /s l�3 �,� • Has the present applicant previously sought to rezone, plat, obtain a lot split or variance or special use permit on the subject site or part of it? __�es�_no. What was requested and when? The undersigned understands that: (a) A list of atl residents and owners ef proper- ty within 200 feet wi91 be attached to this application. .. •� - � •, '(b) This application must be signed by ail owners of tfie property, or an exp7anation §iven why this is not the case. (c) Responsibility for any Jefect in the proceedings resulting from the failure to . tist the names and addresss of ali residents and property owenrs of propgrty in question, belongs to the undersigned. � A sketch of proposed property and structure must be drawn and attached, showing the foltowing: 1. North direction. 2. Location of the proposed structure on the 1ot. 3. Dimensions of property. proposed structure, and fron and side setbacks. 4. Street names. 5. Location and use of adjacent existing buildings (within 350 feet). The undersi�ned hereby declares that all the facts and respresentations sta d in this application are true and correct. DATf �� - 1� - �i SIGNATU _ g0��$ S.�.hv� Sltl�'. RUln �N�LLIFS PEIRpLEUM GOMPANY w� . ._ _ . , _ _�'� � YY�. �,�. e�tw. S�y3�—TELEPHONE NO �CI� �7��3 r , , + ' ? .Si�,i,•:.• 1 .w'�,.d . ( .. . 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Trapp: VNONE 161z� 5'+-3<5i� PW ;;2-;;4 RE: 6500 University Avenue t�E Enclosed please find the application forms for Yariances and the Special Use Permit which will be necessary to reopen the service/gas station. These forms must be si9ned by the owners in order to proceed with processing. Please return these forms with appropriate signatures at your earliest convenience. Further be advised tht the City is presently studying the Mississippi/ University Avenue intersection for possible road wideninqs and boulevard improvements. As part of our redevelopment district we are concerned with the best possible layout of this intersection. As our analyses has not bee� finalized yet, it may be difficult to fully evaluate the implications of your proposal at this time. However, we will proceed with scheduling hearings for your requests. Providing that the necessary signatures are obtained, your variances will be consioered by the Appeals Commission on December 11, 1984. Please feel free to contact me at 571-3450 if you have any further questions. Sincerely, n n �..1'L.�.� Y �'�� James Robinson Planning Loordinator JR:jmo Enclosures 2t zz Item #1, December 77, 1984 ADlf�IISTRAiI9B STAFF RHPORT 6500 Oniveraity lvenue N.B. A. POBLIC PORPOSE SBRYED ST REQDIR�SEIiT: - Seetion 205.15.3C.1, requires any permitted buildings to be no cloaer to any public right of xay than eighty (60) feet. PuDlic purpose served by this requirement is to provide for adequate parking and open landacaped areas as well as to avoid congestion and provide adequate site clearances in oommercial areas. Section 205.15.SD.Ac, requires the edge of any curb opening to be no closer to the nearest portion of a street right of way intersection than seventy five (75) feet or two thirds of tAe lot xidth �hichever is smaller. Public purpose served by this requirement is to limit congestion and traffic hazards at an intersection. Section 205.15.SD.Sa, requires all parking and hard surface areas to be no closer than txenty (20) feet from any street right of way. Public purpose served by this requirement is to allow for adequate visibility and aesthetically pleasing open areas adjacent to public rights of way. Section 205.15•3g� requires a minimum lot area of 35,000 square feet for a building �ite. Public purpose served by this requirement is to provide area for adequate parking, open landscaped areas and to limit congestion of commercial areas. Section 205.03•53r requires a parking stall to be ten (10) feet wide by twenty (20) feet long, except where the stall abuts a curb or sidewalk where the length can be reduced to eighteen (78) feet. PuClic purpose served by this requirement is to provide adequate clearances betueen large vehicles. B. STATED AARDSHIP: "The lot has street rights of way surrounding it so there is no additional land available to bring the lot into compliance." C. ADNINISTRATIVE STIFF RE9IEli: This lot was platted in 1g57 as part of the Holly Shopping Center. The station Has constructed in 1959• In 1967 the loop back of the service drive was dedicated and constructed. A Special Use Permit xas granted to Phillip's Petroleum Company in 1972. The station operation was discontinued in 7g81, therefore the legal nonconforming use and reduced aeEbacka lost their atatus. The variances, as requested above, are all existing conditions. We 6ave notified the petitioner L6at he must submlt a letter from Phillip's Petroleum indicating concurrence in the petition. This must be on file prior to City action on their requests. We are presently redesigning the Mississippi/Oniversity intersectlon uhich crill no douDt reflect changes in right of xay vidths o� the west side of University. The H.R.A, is holding a Public Hearing on this area on December 13, 1984. For Lhese reasons we Peel the item should be denied or continued until the H.R.A. and traffic studies are completed. VENNE W.MO55 J BRA�NERD CUNKSON MEAM�N J. R�T(�� PATPiLK E FIAMERTV JA4E5 M.MENNESSY FREMONT GKETLMER STANLEV R.$T�SEL MI�M�EL l. fUNKL�N W. SCOTf MER20� WAYHE �. N�ROOTT J�1�E5 E.OBRIEN RI�MAPD 5.21E(itFR JONN F. STONE EOwAtiD L.IMNER WiLWY A. NAW pH�R�ES AJI1R$pNS,JR. PHRiG �.VF�FFLY M�RN G. I(pyA��MUK J 41CMAEL MIRSGH EDW�RD J� BLOMME V�pGO $.STRUTNERS UW OFFICE MOSS FA BARNETT A PppFE93KK1ILL ti4"�CIATqN 1200 RIISDury Center • 2p0 SoutA Sixt� Street . Mmnaapolia, Mmnesota 55�02 1872)338-BSSt FORMERLY MOSS, FUHERTV, CURKSON 8 F�ETCMER •�a BARNETT,RATELLE,MENNESSv,VANDER VpRT.STA$EL! HERZOG Mr. Nasim Qureshi City Manager City of Fridley 6431 University Avenue pi.E. Fridley, Minnesota 55432 November 15, 1984 RE: Holly Shopping Center - Phillips 66 Station Si[e Dear Mr. Qureshi: 23 •NN k NENTIALL MI�H�EL J AHEAN M�HER J WE�NSTEiN PHILLIP (NiNSLEV .IEFFREV l. W�rSpN TMOM�S J. SNROYER iMO4A5 C. CUTSNALL D�LE M.W�GNER BAR9�R� G S�U�AT PE1ER J. TiMMONS MARTU y.y�N ROEKEI 6REGOAr D PETERSON JON�TH�N J. OVIRTT LOWS J. S�ELTZ OF COUNSEC MOAA�E Y�N V�LKENBURG ReLOH rl pOM�FORD MOMER � CMILD$ ROBEAT w gnRNETi (ipi�-�pB3i FR,4NK J. WARNER I1D4�IB16! 118BOTT L.iLETCMER n899-iBIB� LGLENb F�SSE'T IipO��iB1L This office represen[s Ilear[land tiniversity Co�ercial Lini[ed Partnership and Heartland Real[y Investors, Inc., with reRard to the Phillips 66 station si[e loca[ed in [he Holly Shopping Cen[er. There is a deed restriction requiring that the proper[y in question be uiilized solely for the purpose of conduc[ing a gasoline service station. This deed restriction vas created for the benefit of the balance of the shopping center. We have been advised that a prospective purchaser desires to acquire the property vith the intention to use i2 other than as a gasoline service station. My clien[ is adaman[ly opposed to this and intends [o enforce i[s righ[s. I further understand that ihis prospective purchaser is planning to request a Special Use Permit from the City of Fridley in order to proceed with its plans. We crill vigorously oppose this request if they desire to use the premises in any manner vhich is inconsistent with [he deed restric- tion. My client vould resort to seeking an injunction from the Cour[s if necessary. Mr. Nasim Qureshi Page Ttro November 15, 1984 We ask that you deny any request for a Special Use Permit based on [he information contained in this letter. If you should have any ques[ions, please d'o not hesita[e to give me a call. Yours very truly, MOSS 6 BARI�LTT A Professional Associa[ion By C � �c.f�(,�— �� l�illiam A. kaue WAH:st cc: Mr. H. William Waltez 24 . i'. e .• _ ��- �a/�9 . CITY OF FAIOLEY. SUHJECT sna� u�vcasrtr nrc. wa. FP�[7LiY, MN. 63UC �� 6�-Y� ADDRESS PIAWIING COM7155IOt1 t1iY COUNCIL: � PIUtK fEE REQUIRED: STIPULATIONS: LOT SPLIT RECORDED• � �. LS / �5�— i a-� OATE• � � MPROVED,_V DISAPPROYED DATE /v? —/ 9 NO APPROYED DISAPPROYED DATE NO AlIOUNT PAID 25 NAME Winfie}d Develoom�n,ts. Inr. FEE RECEIPT NO�� PROPERTY OWNER(S) Winfield Develop��c_ Inc_ TELEPHONE NO 938-3354 �,ttn: Rick Martens TELEPHONE NO Q�st-3354 ADDRESS(ES)_ 5780 Lincoln Drive �tinneaoolis. MN 55436 PROPERTY LOUITION ON STREET 7200 Block Iln�ivercitv Ave_ N_� LEGf1l DESCRIPTION OF PROPERTT Nly 35' of Lot 4, Block 11 Paco Industrial Park TOTAL AREA OF PROPERTY Approx. 9,625 sq_ft. _ PRESENT ZONING r!_1 REASON FOR lOT SPLIT Land to be combined with adio;n;na ornnarty (Lot 2. exceot nl� 50' & Lot 3,1 ac additinnat land fnr r� ki� fnr �rn�yncori develooment — TAe undersigned'hereby declans that atl the facts application are true and wrrect. a�: � �v f y si tations stated in this NOTILE: A sketch of the property and the proDosed lot split Mith any existing struc- tures shown should accompany this application. ' (See revene side for sdditional fnstructions) ��"� Effective January 17, 1984 1984 POLICY SfATF?�NT OH PARR FEES ON LAlID SDBDIVISION Date In determining fair market value of public areas for land subdivision for cash payment as required Dy Ordi4ance #633, the follouing values will be used: Residential Subdivision Residential Lot Split Commercial/Industrial Subdivision or Lot Split 51,500.00 per lot E 750.00 per lot � 0.023 Per sq. ft. This fee is to be paid at the time of final plat or lot split approval. The City Council may defer collecLion to the time a Duilding permit is requested for individual lots created by such subdivision/lot split. The City retains the optlon to accept an equivalent amount in cash from the applicant for part or all of the portion requlred to be dedScated. PARR FEE AGREEHENT The undersigned understands that according to the City Pla'ting Ordinance, the follouing public park land dedication is required to plat residential, commercial or industrial zoned property. It is further understood that the public park land dedication or cash payment equivalent is at the discretion of the City. It is agreed that a cash payment of E 221.38 will be paid according to the above stated policy for the following suDdivision/lot aplit. Nlv 35' of Lot 4 Block 1 Paco Inductrial Park IL is agreed that the following land dedication is provided according to the above stated policy for the folloving subdivision/lot aplit: Dedication: Subdivision/Lot Split The undersigned further agrees to notity all future property oxners or assigns of the cash payment requiremeat, if it is to be collecte� the time of isauanee of a building permit. / / Date • �� Ovner 26 _ _ uN� fRIDLEY 27 CiV[C CENTER • 6431 UNIVERSITY AVE. N.E. FRIDLEl'. MINNESOTA 554±2 • PHONE (61'_) 571-3�350 �ecember 12, 1984 TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: The City of Fridley Planning Commission will be holding an informal hearing on a request for a lot split, L.S. #84-13, by Winfield Developments, Inc. to split off the Northerly 35 feet of Lot 4, Paco Industrial Park and add it to Lot 3 and Lot 2, except the Northerly 50 feet, to make a new industrial site at 7200 University Avenue N.E. Anyone who wishes to be heard on this request can attend the Planning Commission meeting on Wednesday, December 19, 1984, in the Council Chamber of City Hall at 6431 University Avenue N.E. at 7:30 p.m. VIRGINIA SCHNABEL CHAIRWOMAN PLAP�NING COMMISSION m Notices of the Lot Split request sent to H&S 6379 University Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Jerry Paschke 7970 University Avenue N.E. balance of property owned by Winfield Developments, Inc. 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MW.6S�.7C lYli!677-Y� �ESS: �q - 5 i PIJINNING COMIISSIOH: APPROYE __ DISAPF C1TY COUNCIL: P11RK FEE REQUIRED: STIPUUlTIOMS: PROPERTY OIfYER AD�RESS(ES LOT SPLIT RELORDEO: �i�,Od LS f y_�3� �►,�: QIITE � APPROYED D15J1PPROVED QA7E N0, �� PAID FEE RECEIPT N01 T�3 7ElEPHONE NO D � h' TELEPHONE NO PROPERTY LOCATION ON STREET LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF TOTAL 11REA OF PROPERTY r Z L O ' PRESENT ZONING IZ � Z REASON FOR LOT SPLIT Zt,vp C.O'� Lir+�. 31 The undersigned'hereby declares that all the tacts and representations stated in this application are true and corrett. DATE: /L� `�� `I S36NATURE � � 3� P.�.;.., � ✓ NOTICE: A sketch of the property and the proposed l�t spli�th any existing struc- tures sho►m should acca�pany this application. ' .(See reve'rse side for sdditional instructions) Effeetive January 17, 1984 1984 POLICY STATF?gNT ON PARR FEfiS ON LAlID SIIBDZVISION Date ��/y/gG/ In determining fair market value of public areas for land subdivision for cash payment as required by Ordinance i633, the folloving values srill be used: Residential Subdivision Residential Lot Split Commercial/Industrial Subdlvision or Lot Split E7,500.D0 per lot E 750.00 per lot ; 0.023 per sq. ft. This fee is to be paid at the time of final plat or lot split approval. The City Council may defer collection to the time a building permit is requested for individual lots creaLed by such subdivision/lot split. The City retains the option to accept an equivalent amount in cash from the applicant for part or all of the portion required to be dedicated. PARR FEE AGREEMENT The undersigned understands that according to the City Pla'ting Ordinance, the follouing public park land dedication is required to plat residential, commercial or ind�strial zoned property. Zt is further understood that the public park land dedication or cash payment equivalent is at the discretion of the City. 0 0 It is agreed that a cash payment of �� 1 be paid according to the above stated policy for the folloxing subdivision/lo split. It is agreed that the folloxing land dedication is provided according to the above stated policy for the following subdivisio Nlot aplit: Dedication: Subdivision/Lot Split The undersigned Purther agrees to notifj� all future property owners or assigns of the cash payment requirement, if it is to be collected at the tlme of iasuance of a building permit. Date: /" L � Urner Signature) 32 _ _ UN� FRIDLEY 33 CIVIC CENTER • W31 UNIVERSITY AVE. N.E. FRIDLEY. MINNESOTA 55432 • PHON6 (6121 �71-3450 December 10, 1984 TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: The City of Fridley Planning Commission will be holding an informal hearing on a request for a lot split, L.S. N84-13, by Randy Anderson, to split off the Southerly 36 feet of Lot 5, Block 5, Melody �4anor, so that a double bungalow at 7396-7398 Symphony Street N.C. can have zero lot lines to allow each side to be sold to separate owners. Anyone who wishes to be heard on this request can attend the Planning Commission meeting on Wednesday, December 19, 1984 in the Council Chamber of City Hall at 6431 University Avenue N.E. at 7:30 P.M. VIRGINIA SCHNABEL CHAIRWOMAN PLANNING COMPIISSION 34 Mailing List for L.S. #84-13 7396-98 Symphony Donald Peterson 1607 Bunker Lake Blvd. Anoka, Mn 55303 Dennis R. Coverston P.O. Box 29621 Minneapolis, Mn 55429 Rudolph C. Bayer 26 East Golden Lake Road Circle Pines, Mn 55014 Duane G. Bethune 3917 8th Avenue Anoka, Mn 55303 Ed Chies ?F51 Central Avenue N.E. Frid�ley, Mn 55432 Jugal Agarwal 8455 Spring Lake Park Road Idoundsview, Mn 55432 C P G Enterprises 233 West Grandview Roseville, Mn 55113 Randy C. Anderson Construction, Inc 11340 Sunset Avenue Circle Pines, Mn 55014 Yorman Snyder 7388 Symphony Street NE Fridley, Mn 55432 4 � �� .�.`, usuwe�r� �.;�`�; �MpINEERINO . ��1` . . . . _ . . . . � ��_ Mortgage Loan Survey forR_ANQ�_ G._ AN�EI�SON �yrN AvENUF u.F ' - — 59.41 - – i -- _ , 9 � 6' �DRaiNAGE 8 U'117Ty EASEHEM '� Iro�L--�r Ze,rO- I . L-�- �r�� r : � /'� � ��, � i I ;•� � � �. � • �; i .; I i f; _ ' � , �� J � � 0. F� � � �> v e a' � � 3'S O> a ,, s � i'°��, 're_ N . i� � v�ER tu � � � � �� ti L i � M'ti ? O Q„ Q' 4S � � y� � LO7 5, BLOCK 5, J7ELODY NIANOR C;7Y OF fR1DLEY , ANOKA CCYINTY � MINFJESOTA __—i I 36 ; � �� i;�<i,_ ��'�' . , ... i Zor7ec� f� Z- i�al .C.e? tirect = /D�Z20 �1 ` 1n�� • �e ntl �e� � ep.esen�anon o� su. ey o� �Fe boo�da•� ol �br �ond abo.e de.v�nen and n� �n. �owr�o� �ot �.� ouaiA�na •e�(nn�, rn�.ro�, and oll v�uble enn �<nments, �� u , I.u�, o, on a�d lu=d 16„ .,, . mone .ny � o ��o �..�r mo��goye loon peing plo�ed rhe p.00e•�y ntl �o �•ub�i�.ry ,. .n� ,�-e ...�-pero � nold., ol iu:n mo,�gage o. ony orher , o«�� e^d by rh� . � ol � a �� .�y.,ye �. . ..=d.�.�cod o..d ey�eed ..o mo�umeney nu.e been pla<edcrlat'��e p,,.pou oi e�+c Glo�h.�y �o� i��e� u. bou�Eu�� .o.�� . Du�r.: n�_AO� o�_�: i D IG_ SU6URBAN. ENGINEEAING, �HC. . Fn9,ne.., � , .� S�..eyo.. , by i . . —.__ . .�._. J__ . _"_' I � �► CITYOF F fZl DLEY pIRECTORATE OF PUBLIC WORKS MEM�RANDUM �aT[ ll/7/84 pp� p►.1N. John ilora, Director Publi Ul�ECT STORM WATER UTILITY im 37 PW 209-64 Tp ♦:TiOr�. iNrD shi, City Manager _ The 19E2 State Legislature passed a statute requiring surface water management of all land in the metropolitan area. This legislation formulated the Six Cities Watershed Nanage��ent Organization which together with the Rice Creek Watershed District, encompassed the surface water management for all of the City of Fridley. The intent of this leg�slation is to manage the surface Nater quality and quantity of runoff. Recent develop�ents in the City have been required to establish surface water detention ponds and filtration systems. Many of t�ese ponds are or have becore the City's responsibilit� to maintain and ODerate. Our storm water system is not complete, but much of that which has been implaced is twenty years old. Accordingly, the required maintenance of the storm water syste� r;iil increase in the years ahead. <� � � � � =� � � ., l� � � h7aintenance of the storm wdter infrastru[ture intludes the inspection, Cleaning, patching, reDairing and small scale construction necessary to keep the facilities operating at an acceptable service level. The greatest return on the maintenance dollar comes through spending to keep a system in top shape preventing the initial deterioration which may lead to system replacement. Our neh construction projects are funded through assessment without separate identification of necessary preventative maintenance funding. ]n order to provide a clear distinction between new capacity of new system construction, it is necessar� to itler�tify a source for the maintenance budget separately. This year the City of Roseville established a storm water drainage utility. It is �ased upon the concept of requiring those parCels of land that contribute to stortn water runoff, based upon the intensity of development, contributing a fair share to the Rainteccnce of the storm water system. Richfield is currently in the process of adopting a similar t,�pe of utility. Based upon the D�esent and future need for maintaining and operating a storm water system within the City of Fridley, it would be appropriate for the Counci) to adopt a sturr, water drainage utility ordinance, which could be administered similar to our utility fund and billed quarterly with our water Dilling. This utility wculd be based upon fees charged to categories of land use based upon the intensity of storr water runoff. A supG�imentary policy would provide for fee adjustments for positive actions taken to manage tne storrr, r:ater quality and quantity on site. The funds generated would be earmarked for continued � M'emo To: N.Qureshi, City Mana9er PW 1D9-8A ]1/7i84 Page 2 maintenance of our existing and future storm water system and provide necessary capital so that the infrastructure could be retained at a satisfactory level without special taxes or assessments. Recomnend the Council consider this proposal. If this is supported, I would reconmend an eve�yone�wasnaware of whatewetwereeattempting to do�andyhowdit wouldCbeeaccomplishedo insure JGF:jmo Enclosure U��FT' �•� • • • pN qtDINANCE R�CODIFYII� 4f3E FRIDLEY CITY �DE BY ADOPPIl� A[g3� QiAE'PER 216 FNTPPl,ID "S'lURbi F7ATER DRAII�P�E OTII,ITY" 7FiE CITY O�UNCIL OF 'IHE CITY OF FRIDLEY DOES �RAT�It� AS ��JS: 216.01. 5'lURM SJATER DRAIt7PGE UTILITY FSTABLISHID r�`�;�4_ 39 The municip�,l stocro sewer systen shall be operated as a public utility pursuant to hiinnesota Statutes, Section 444.075 fron which revenues wilJ be derived subject to t�e provisions of this Chapter and Alinnesota Statutes. The storr, water dzainage utility will be pact of the public wocks departraent and undec the a�inistcation of the public works director. � 216.02. DEFINITIGNS Re�idential Equivalent Factoc, (REP). — Cru. �!� IiEF �� G 1in../ �i �'he ratio of the average volime of rimoff g�erated Uy one (1) acre of a given la�d use to the average volla�e of rtimoff generateci by one (1) acce of typical single fa�ily �esidential land, during a standard one (11 ]�ear rainfall event. 216.03. LAt�ID USE QASSIFICATION The Ri,F values for various land u�s ace as follows: CLTi`'SIFICILTIOt1 LAi� USES 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Ceaetezies, golf couzses, par4:s Parks with g3ved �rking facilities Single fanily and duplex residential P�blic and private schools, cor:munity center tiultiple fanily resioential, churches and governnental buildings Ca,v.�ercial, industrial properties Ir,ipcoved vacant 216.04. SII�RM i�ATER DRAINTGE FEE REF' 0.25 0.75 1.00 1.25 2.50 5.00 as assigned For the purpose of calculating storm watei dcainage fees, all developed one family and duplex paroels shall be considered to have an acreage of one-thiru (1/3) acre. The storm water drainage rate shall be S� per quarter F.er REF'-acre. = '� 216.05. Q2IDITS ^ii�e Council r�ay adopt policies re�ended by the public works director, ty tesolution, foi adjnstrent of the storm water dzainage fee foc pazcels based upon hydrologic data to be s�pplied by property owners, whict� a=�z de-tonstrates a hydrologic response substantially differetit frm the standazci. Such adjustnents of storm water drairiage fees shall not be nade retroactively. 40 Pac,e 2 — Otdirhnce No. _ 216 .06 . £XFTtPf IONS Rhe following land uses are exe�pt frcr.. storn water otaina9e fees: p, Public Ri9hts of way. B. Vacant, �irproved land with giound covez. 216.07. PAYI�3�TT OF £EE Stateaents for storm water drainage fee shall be cor�puted every three (3i r.�ont�:s and invoiced by tl�e finance de�rtnent for each account on or about the tenth (lOth) da)' of the nonth following the quartez. Such statenent shall be due on or before the last day of the nonth in which the statement is mailed. pny prepayr�ent ot ovezpaynent of charges shall be cetained by the City and applied against subsequent quarterly fees. 216.08. RFX'AI.QlI.7+TiCk1 OF FEE Tf a property amer or person responsible for p3�'ing the storn water drainage fee yuestions the correctness of an invoice for such charge, such pecson nay have the deteLmination of the chacge recomputed by wtitten �equest to the pu5lic crocks director rade within twelve (12) months of mailing of the invoice in question by the City. 216.09. PII�N.�'PY f'OFt LATE PAYI'ffNr incur�a penaltybcharge ofrten petcentr(108) ofetheear,ount�I-alstya'uen �ue shall 216.10. (�rIFICATION OF PAST DUE FEES ON TI+XES An}� �st due storm water drainage fees in excess of ninety (9�) days pe.st due on October 1 of any year r�y be certified to the County Auditor for collecton with real estate taxes in the following year pursuant to [Sinnesota Statutes, Section 444.075, Subdivision 3. In addition, the City shall also have t}�e ri,ht to bcing civil action oc to take othez legal re�edies to collect un�ic fees. PASSED A:�'D ADOP^_ED BY `n3E CITY CI�C1tdCIL OF 24?E CITY OF FHIDLEY TI:IS Dl,Y OF . 1984 SqII,I,IAt•; J, IIEE - iAYOR ATTES� : SIDI'u':Y C. IhR;At: - QTY Q�EF2K STORM HATER OTII.ITY TYPICAL I!lPEROI005 PERCENT I. Aesidential: Typlcal Lot and House Zmpervious: House Drive Patio, Deck Sidexalk, etc. Total Area: II. Ceneral Multlple Family III. Commercial IV. Industrial l'1 7,020 900 300 2,220 41 x Zmproved = 2,220/9,000 = 24.6� +/- 25i Lot Area Improved Percentage Location Sq. Ft. Area Improved 910 Lynde Drive 5700 Polk Street 990 Lynde Drive �619 - 73rd Ave. 5865 University 5831 University 7362 University 7600 University 7321 Commerce Ln. 1305 - 72nd Ave. 1290 - 73rd Ave. 7585 Viron Road Schools Hayes Eleoentary Stevenson Elem. Woodcrest Elem. NorLhpark £lem. VI. Gover�ent Bulldings VII. Churc6es �ii7iau cvn 3Ib1613 Fridley Library Columbia Arena City Garage Roslyn Park {tes. Fridley Methodist Yalley Viex Chr. Church of Christ 21,175 27,250 22,200 55,440 17,214 73,925 6,864 29,T'f5 Mean R 16,125 15,820 35,620 32,7�5 79,200 59�500 36,750 28,500 Mean = 50,400 116,580 99,180 251,600 37,860 99,380 87,250 233�z0o Mean e 449,880 739,4oD 598.500 198,000 283,140 97,200 341,000 84,200 Mean = 61,640 39�765 475,150 330,150 u83,000 2�2,650 Mean = 26,000 77,625 iz6,uoo 20,000 12,850 52,z00 28,500 i3,uoo Me an d 53� 66q� 3�� Su� 54$ +/- 50$ 9 8$ 92i 7 5� 7 B� 85.75% +/- B5i 75% 85� 88% 93z 85.25� +/- 85$ 31� 33`i 34� 25$ 30.75� +/- 3�� 65� 69� 44$ 59.33� +/- 60� �9f 67x 23f 673 51.50� +/- 5D� �7��ti"� CITY POLICY STORM WATER DRAINAGE t1T II.ITY T�Tl.E Credits and/or adjustments of municipal storm water drainage fees. 42 naC!�cRnqND STATEMENT The municipal storm water drainage utiliLy utilizes a fee structure based on the anticipated relative contributio❑ of storm drainage runoff voluc�es to the storm water drainage system. A parcels contribution is determined by that parcels size and its land use, under the princlpal that more intensively developed land uses typically have a larger percentage of impervious surface and contribute a much greater volume of Water and/or sediment/nutrient loadings to the system. It is recognized that some parcels, due either to their unique topographic, vegetative, geologic and other characteristics, have a hydrologic and sediment/nutrient loading response substantially different from that of similarly sized parcels of Lhe same land use. To provide for an equitable assessnent of storm drainage fees, based on reasonably expected contribution of flous and sediment/nutrients, provisions are hereby made to permit adjustments or credits to the storm drainage fees for those parcels xith unique or unusual characteristics. Existence or construction of on site storm drainage control, detention or retention facilities by theaselves are not eligible for storm water drainage fee credit and/or adjustment without complying with the procedure set forth in this policy. Zn addition to continued maintenance and repair of these facilities it is equally important to provide necessary uater quality controls in order to be eligible for any credit and/or ad�ustment. POLICY STATEMENT The basis of the City of Fridley's storm water drainage fees is the anticipated relative contribution of storm xater volucies and sediment/nutrient loadings to Lhe storm drainage system from a given parcel. Nhere unique or unusual condiLions exist that the actual contributions of Water volume and sediment/nutrient loadings from a given parcel are substantially different from those anticipated by the storm drainage fee structure, the public works director or his designate may adjust or credit the storm drainage fee for said parcel to aa appropriate level in accordance with the gvidelines specified herein. 43 ..� � � a� � ..- �..�- • - � '• � • •� It is the res onsibility of the property owner or his agent to present to the �ublic %orks �rector or his designate, sufficient information concerning a parcels hydrologic characteristics to permit an accurate assessment of the conditions that exist. This information may include, Out is not limited to: A. Site plan showing locations of all buildings and other development relative to lot lines at 50 scale. H. The total lot area and area of iapervious surfaces. C. Site topography or contours of sufficient detail to ascertzin flou directions, rates and volumes. D. Size, details and/or voltmetric characteristics of any drainage control facilities. E. Hydraulic calculations specifying outflou volumes and rates for various rainfall events. •� u'! .�!" i 1• ' :1 •.� 1 "1 •u -.1• .��. • Where the unit runoff generated by a parcel differs from the assigned amount i. ,, n, � for that land use category by more than 20�, the Public Work� De:�ert,�e-at may adjust the parcels storm Water drainage fee in accordance with the follouing procedure: p. Calculation of unit runoff for the parcel shall be determined by the methods outlined in the Soil Conservation Service Technical F.elease Ao. 55, utilizing a 2" Cotal rainfall amount and antecedant moisture condition II. B. If calculzted unit runoff is shovn to differ from the assigned amount for that land use category by 20$ or more, the number of assigned REU's for that parcel shall be adjusted by multiplying by the ratio of the calculated unit runoff to the standard unit runoff. C. A parcels storm xater drainage fee shall be subject to increase� as well as decreases by this procedure. On.e� �v✓{N./y �./„lIl,..f D. Because sing}e family and.dupi�7t fees are Il4S_ based upon actual parcel acreage, no ad,justments for unit runoff differences xill be made for those land uses. 44 . - •� -• - •�• A parcel may be credited for Up to fifty i50$) percent of the storo uater drainage fee for onsite measures which are rn+ned and maintained by the zpplicant G��'� Khich effectively reduce the outflow of sediment/nutrients from the site. Credit percentage shall be based on one-half of the actual percentage of sediment removal efficiency, as determined by the following procedure, rounded to the nearest 5�� except that no credit will be given for sediment removal efficiencies of less than 20R. . s z ' W u �. � u J �y ` F _ � ' O W O ., . -. . - ..• A. Determine total site acreage and percent of site that has an improved or impervious surface. B. Calculate the annual depth of runoff from the following equation: Dr = P (.75 Im *.15)-5.234 (.25-.1875 �).597 Nhere Dr = annual depth of runoff in inches. �= percent of site impervious area, expressed as a decimal. �= annual depth of precipitation = 29 inches C. Calculate annual volume of runoff in acre-feet: �annual = gite acreage x Dr/ 12 D. Determine pond capacity belou outlet elevation in acre-feet. E. Calculate capacity inflou ratio (CIR), WHERE: CIR = pondiag capacity / vannual F. Read sediment resoval efficiency from following graph: •�� •OT •a •�� •N �.M •� •a •� U t• s• �� BRUNE'S TRAP EFFICIENCY CURVE G. Credit - S sediment removal efficiency/2 x storm drainage fee. 4s' l� -. . .�� - -r3.e A parcel may be credited for up to 25i of the storm water drainage fee for onsite measures xhich limit storm water outflou rates from the site in accordance with the following procedure: A. 10x credit for parcels Which limit peak outflou rates during a 5-Year rainfall event to predevelopment rates. B. No detention credit�will be given for parcels which do not limit 5-Year event outflow rates to predevelopment levels. C, Additional 15S credit for parcels r�hich limit peak outflou rates during a 100-year rainfall event to predevelopment rates. (Sased on the rational method of runoff analysis. Predevelopment condition shall be considered Lo have a rational "C" value of 0.2. Time of concentration shall be no shorter than 30 min.). ! ! /1" F� �C `Y�c�'r G✓i/�� S�✓/.� 'Pi fh^vl/ Iv�lial. C�c.�.f iiAii' II.-y/��— fl..., /�i 11' n �°Grs��/r�i...f /i-i!J (5) �`%�'f '�h' i��i) and (L� Above mav C� Cumul�tive. . - �-•- .. .�. -• :• -� The Public 4lorks Director reserves the right to inspect periodically all storm drainage control facilities to ascertain that they are operating properly. If such a system, due to improper maintenance or other reason, fails to detain or cleanse storm water runoff in an effective manner, the Qirector may eliminate or reduce xater quality or detention credits to ar, appropriate level. Any such facility shall not be eligible Lo apply for storm drainage fee adjustments for a period of 12 months follouing any credit adjustment. Credit adjustments shall not be made retroactively. The issuance of any building permit or other action vhich changes or ir.tensifies an existing land use shall be cause for an adjustment of storm water drainage fees to an appropriate level. _.�- CHAPTER N0. 216 OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE. 6/2/16 C� 46 CIT] OF ROSEVILLL ORDI\nt:C£ RO. * ! i i ! R a AN ORCIII�NCE ADDISG CHAPTER 74 TO THE CITY CODE OF T3?L CITY.OF ROSLVILLE ESTABLIS}iZKG A STORtil S4ATER DRAINAGE UTIi.I:'_'. The City Council of the City o£ Roseville does hereby ordain: I. The City Code of the City' of Roseville i� acendec b}� ac�_n.: a new Chapter 74, to read as follows: 74. STOR:•1 F::-.TER DRi�IRAGL UTILIT] 79.010. StorriS:ater Drainaae Utility Estab!ishcc. Tfie municipal storr seMer syste^ sna17 be operatea as a ncbl:c ut:?it�� purs.:ant to ;Sinn. Stat. 5ection 444.D75 'ro:, un_cn re��cr,ues will be derived sub7ect to the provisions of tn:s Ch�; �cr and �Iinnesota statutes. T:ie stor� water dr�=•^•:� �� ut_iitl will be par: of tne public wor!:s departc_^t �n:: ,.�:�r Ctne aa:.in:stratier. of the publ:c wori;s ciirector. 7a.020. Definit:ons. (1) Resider.'_ial ec�ivaler.t factor, (�`-') - ore (1) RE:' is de_ined as---Y— —tne ra:.o ot tn� average volur.e of rsno'f generated by one (1) acre of a gi•:e� lar,c use to the averaqe voluc,e of rur.o_" qer.erated b1 one (1) acre o: t�pical sinqle fa^�il�' resi;ic.^.ual land, curin� a stoncard one (1) year rain`all e��en�. a i�.0;0. Stcr- S:a*_>r Drainaae Fees. Storr.. wa�ez cra:r.��:�: _'ees for Yarce s o: lanc sna 1 be dete-;�ined b� -u1ti�17:r.� the REF _or a parcel's lar.d use by the parcel's ac_ea?e ar.c ti�en r^.Lltirl}•_.^.� the resulting prodact by the stor- �ra�e_ c:ai^ace rate. :he RF.F values °or va-zous lar.c uses a:_ as c.. , , .. " C;.�SSIF=C,f':IO.: Ll,\D CSLS r-== 1 Cereter:es, col` co�rses 0.2� 2 Parks with oar!:inc `acilities 0.-� 3 Sincle fanils ar.d dupler. residential 1•�� d Pu�lic ar.� ❑ri:�a:e sc:�ools, cor.� nnitJ ce^ter -•-- 5 :Su1t:Yle :a^.:11 resi�ent:al, enn:ches ar.c co•;err.-.e.^.tal b;:i'_:Iir�s 2 • =�' 47 C6 Coa��ercial, industrial, warehouse S.CJ 7 I�proved vacant as ass cr.c�: For the Purpose of calculating stor:� water drainage fees, all developed one fa:uly a^.: duplex p�cels st.all be considered to have an acreage of one-third (lj3) acre. %1c "°'�'� ""�" °'�°.".•'` �� v�.:�� be 'ri3.eo ar. �rc..ii �.r. �Ei't-atrt.. 74.040. Credits. The Council may adopt policies reco--.en3e3 by the public wozks director, by reso-ltion, for adjustr.er.: o' the storm water drainage fee for parcels based upon h}�droloc:c data to be supplied by property owners, which ca'_a de:�onscraces a hydrologic res�or.s.e substaatially different °ro^, the stu^:iares. Such adjus::sents of stor:� water cra.naae fees shall not bc ^.a::c retroactively. 74.050. Exe:tpt'_ens. The followir.a land uses are exec.�� `ro^ storn water drainace iees. (a) Public Rignts o' wa}•. (b) Vacaat, un'_^.�_o�'ec lanc with crounc co•rcr. 74.060. Pa•:^en: o` ree. State^.�r:ts `or sto:^. �ac�r cr�_�.�ac / fee shall be co-.pucea z•:_r'; three i3) mcnt^s ar,c :n.c:c�c �- thc � finar.ce de:>artr..ent `or eac� acco�.:r.t on o: ab:.:t the `_=`ch (��h) d�}• o: the ^.onth .'olio•.:ir.y the cuarter. Sucn s��c:. cnt s:�s_1 be due on or before the last da1 of :he mcnth _n whic� thc st�t�:-ent is mailec. Rn}� pre: a•;-.ent or o:�rra;•nert of c'�ar�;es si��li be ze- tainec by the City anc appl_ed ar.ains: subse:c�r.t :.:�rtc_1;� fees. 79.070. R�c�lc�.:i.at.on o° Fee. I` a properc� c�.:�:_r or rerscn responsible `or oa}�inc cne stcr:r water drainace `ee _�,:�°st-cr.s the correctness of ar. _..:•o'_ce '_or such cnarge, sucn �esson ra}� have the dete:-r.:i:�at_oa o= tne charge recoc.�utec o; wr:ttcr. _ �_st to the pubL•c wor;-s ::�r2ctc: ^ace witni.^. t.:el•�e (:2) :r.or.�: s o' railiag of the invo_ce in ecestion by the Cits. 79.0"00. Penalt�: `o: Lat� Pa:�cer.t. Eac� uz�===17 �===-.. `o� s.cr^� watez cra.nace '_eas not �a.d a�ner. c�.:e s:a:l inc�r a_ e^�it� cnarge oi ten Y2rcea: (10�) of t5e a^our.t past c'.:e. i4.090. Cer�_' cation o` Past Due Fees on :axes. .r.� �ast due stor:� water dza.nage =ees in excess o`_ n_necl iSGi�c�;•s rast dce on October 1 0� any year r..ay be cer�i'ied to the Cc��.t,� ::��=-�= fcr collect'_c.^.��+ith reai estate tax=s in the following lc�r c.- s::a.^.t to :Sir.n. Stat. Section 444.D7�, Subc'_vision 3. Ir. ��____.. . the Ci:y snall also na:•e the rig'�t to brir.c a civil acucr. or tc ta::e ot� _r lecal re:^.ed_es to collect un_ �i� fees. II. ^�:s Orci.�.^.ce s:�a'_- be ia f::ll 'orce a^.. e"ect `r.,... ;..... �=_:r its �.:ssace ar.: publica�-or.. 49 CITY POLIC] � TITLE Czedits anc/or adjustr..ents of municiral stor^� water drainage fees. BACi:GROUtiD STA:E:•7ENT The municipal storm water drainage utility utilizes a fee structure based on the anticipated relative contribution of storm drainage tunoff�volumes to the storm water drainage syster,i. A parcels cont:i- bution is dete mined by that parcels size and its land use, un�er the principal that more intensively developed land uses t}�picall�• ha��e a larger percentage of impervious surface and contribute a much crcat- er volume of water anc/or sediment/nutrient loacings to thc s}'stes.. _ It is recogni2ed that sone parcels, due either to their ur.ique to:o- �araphic, vegetative, geoiogic and other characteristics, or the exis- tance and mair.tenance of onsite sto m drainaqe centzol, cet�nt_on, oz retention facilities ha��e a hydrolocic and secinent!nutrient loodina response substantially different fro:a that of similarly si�cc pa_ce:s of the same land use. To provide for an equita�le assessr..ent of stor� drainaae fces, based on reasonably expected co�tribution o: `lous and sed:^�ent,nutr-ents, provisions need to be rnade to per-it acjustr.ents or crcGits to tne storn drainage fees fo: those parcels with �nicue or u.^.csu�l char3c- ter:stics. f PO�IC1 ST;,:L':£::T \ T�c basis oP the Cit.: o_° Rose�•ille's sto:-: water dr��a�?c �c�•s is tne an::ciaatec relative ccr,u:bution oi stc_^ water :�cic°=s �::� s.,:.-.�_nt; nut:ient loadir.cs to tne s:o_^ dr�_nage s;�sten frc,. ��:=':�=^ ;.a=�=�. iyhere unique or unusual co^�ditions exist where t:�e actc�l con�_ibu- tions oi water vol„�e ar.c sed:-,ent;nutrient loac'_r.?s `:c�- � r:�:en oarcel are substant_a111 ci"erent `or.-: thcse ar.:,_c_:.a:e:i '.;: _._ storn drainage £ee structure, the public wor'r:s cirecter o: h:s cesr•....__ nal ac�ust or c.ecit t!:e stcr^ cra=:ace fee for saac rarc�l to ar. -_ _.,- pr,ate level in accordar.ce w:th the guiceli�es spec_'��c :,___-... PRi;Cr7�3E ST?.T£':E\T (1) Pre�ert, 0•,anez to °ro�::ce Deta.lec Zn`orc.a::cr It is the res�onsib:li=y o: t`�e pzc�ert� owner or ::_, a_cr.= __ nreser.: to tne ru51'_c wor'.;s ,.__ector or his desi�n�__, s_`' _--..� -•.- forr.,atien concerning a�arcels h��dr�loczc c:arac�e-_�,._cs *_c rc_t an acc::rate assess�ent o: the con�it.ons c..�_ er.:st. ':'r._s _..:.._..,.- Lion r..ay _ncluce, but is not !'-^ite� to: n. Site plan sho::'_r.a loc�:�or.s o_ a'_'_ ...:�ldings a^c �_..-_ de�:elo��.er.t relat'_•:e to loc lir.es. B. .ha total lot area ar.c area o` '_r..�er��:ous su:_`ac�s. C. Site topocra�'r.�: or contonrs o° su'=ic'_ent ce�a-: -., _�---- tain flow dizec..ons, rates anc ^e1.::-.es. D. Size, ' - ' �etails s.-.c;or ve_•.:.:.et_'_c c:e_ac`eris�:cs o_ drainage contrcl :acilit:es. -z- � E. Hydraulic calculations specifying out`_low vol•.:.:,es a-._: zates _°or vari�cs rs�:'aii e�•an:s. t. (2) Adjust,:.er.ts TJhere Parcel Runo`_° Is Sianifican�l}' Di°'e_�::� Fro:� Lard l:se Stancard i:here the unit runoff oenerated by a parcel differs f:cr. _-_ assigned amount for that land use cataaor}• by more than 20:., �:� P.SI,D. may adjust the parcels storm water draiaage fee in accc.-- dance with the following procedure: a. Calculation of unit runoff for the par�el shall be de�e.- mined by the methods outlined in the Soil Conser��at:c^ Service Technical Release No, 55, utilizing a 2" total rain.'all amount and antecedant moisture condition :i. b. If calculated u�it runo.`f is shown to diF_°er fzor.. th� assicr.ed anount for that lan� use cat�oory bp 20� or more, the nur�be� of assigned P.Eti's _'or that parccl sn.:l. be adjusted by riultiplyin� b}' the rat'_o o` th� calc�.:l�cec unit runoff to the standard unit runofi. c. A parcels storm watez drainaoe fee shall be suuj•�c: t., increases as well as decreases by this procedure. d. Because single fanil! and duplex fees are not based u�on actual parcel acreaoe, no adjustnents for ur.it runo'_: ci_.°- ferences will be made for those l�r.d uses. (1) �:ocedurc for Ca,c,:altion o` Cred:ts .or t:et ?encs � A rarcel r„ay be crecited £or u;= to fiity iSD�.) ce�c_^c oi �::� ste^, uatcr dra:nage fee `or onsite r..cas�res w'r.:c!� az� our..c ar.� maintained by tne aprlicaat r.�hich e'_`ecuvel;� :ec,:ce t7� cct`!c.. ..: s2ci^�er.t,'nutrients fre^, tne site. Crc�cit nercer.:aac �na1= be :.�s•^c oz or.e-na'_'_ o: the ac:•.:ai pe: ceatane o. sec.-.-�r.. re�o•.� ;' _.:____,. as ce:er^�r.ec n}• the foilowinc rrocec•.:re, rounc•=c to th_ .._�.�s- :,� , e>:cer: that �o c:ecit �aiil i�e ci�.en `o: sed��.,_ ._....,.,:_ __:.___r.c:_s o° less tnan 20�. A. Calcclation o` C_eci:= `or 4:e*_ �or.cs a. Deter^ir.e to:al 5=te acreace anc �erc_.._ c' s_cc _.:._ has an i,^.pro��ec or ;-.�ervious s�,:r'ace.^ b. Calculate the annual deptn o` runc" `:c-. t:e '„_:_.,_..-. ecuaticr.: Dr = P(.i� Im+.15)-5.23, (.2�-.12-5 Z�).597 T:here Dr = anr.cal cec�h of runo" in ir.ches. I = perce�t o° site i-�er; ic::s ama, e: �resscti as a c:c� :::. m P= ar.r.ual de�th of prec_pitation = 29 incnes. c. Calcu;ate anaual vol�,;.:.e o_° rur.e" in acre-f�ec: �ranacal - site acreace x Dr/ 12 c. �eterr..=.^.e ; oac �a�ac::� bele�.� o::�`et ele�.at�cr. �. a,.__-'___ e. Calc::late capacitt ir.flow ratio (CI?.) , w�_re: C:' _ _ ac= ;c capaczt;� / 'anr.ual f. P.ead se�_ ---- -- .cvzl �F"_..ier.^ °_c-; 'c'_'_�:�- - :. -7 _ _- . � , C ' �, _ W i.l � LL W J > O � W 6 f S W � O W N -3- 51 om� 000a 000a oo� oot ooe •� •� ♦� �• '• '• BRUYE�S TRAP E�iICIENCY CURVE a. Credit = � SE'G:..Y'::: _'�"Y)'Jdl E'F�.C1C'.'�.�,: �� )i S�C^'. C�:�:.=P.'.�C ��. (ti) CtC'C—`_S FOf S�C ^' cdtC: �C`_n^ 10.^ u i• i. �J�CCZ f:1d:' tiJC CiCC-t!',: _°C_ t0 Z� _ C[ iT:C 5_�?'C. '+:O'C: C�.]1^— dCC ICC _O: OCS-:C' CC?.5'�_�5 k'I::C:l 1.:...... SLC". '.J�]tC� OC_:�C?: ��]t�•S C `rc-. the sitc 1n accor:a:.: c_w.<r. tr.`.,_c_ c.... =.:oc_u_. � - a. 'G: _r�ci `o: ar _'_ ..r. .:��:- c_ r�tcs u- :i: a 5-:^ea: ra-n=�1'_ ever.t :o pr�c_•:elc;r_.._ _..__s. b. Acc:tic^al 15 � cre�'_: _or : arccis ...._c:z '_ _.._ _ ,.s;. � :� � lou zates duri:;c a lOJ-;'ear rain:a:l c:cr.: �.. __,._. _ic.:°.cr,� rates. {Based or. the zat_c^al :�.ecr.c� c` _..ne"_ �r.�l}�s_s. ?zcc:�:•_1^�- mer.c co^.._._or. shnll be co::s.:ie:_ tc r.u'._ a rar_on�l 'C' v�lue o� 0,2. Ti.:,e o° ccacentrnt:cr. s�al! be ..., sho: ___ _.._.. 3� .,_... ) c. ... ::etentier. crec'_ts ti:ill .�,e ^i�•e.^. 'or r.arc_1= .::,_c5 ;_. r.o= li^it 5-1'ear e��ent out'ic�« rac_s �o __e�c,.�.-_�_-,_.... le:•c_�. (�) C_°c'_ts Snc•rr, in (3) a.^.c (.) :.1>c•�e :'a•: be C'_-'.�la� ••e l6; ?erioc_c Inscectior. anc Crecit nc;�st-.er.�s. Pub�ic t•7orks Directer �eser•:�es the ric:� to ins�ec_ �er_��_c�'_'_:: all stom drainaoe cor.:rol _°zcilities to ascer=air. tnat t�c; arc __._ ing properl}�. I: s;;c: a s�ster.., dce to ir..�:o�er nair.ter.ar.c� c: o��:: reason, fails to de:aia or cieanse storr.. water runoi: in an c'_'•�c_:�:_ mannez, the director -a}� eli^ir,ate or rec�c� water quality or r:c __ r=.cr. czecits to an ac�ro�riate leve2. .,,n;: sucn 'acil:ty shall nct �_ :1_- aible to apclp for stor:l crai::ace 'ee sc�us�ner.ts £or a per:�c c_ ;� r..ontis :olloM•ir., an1 c:ec:t �c-cst-,eat. Cred:t adjustr..ents s;G:_ ...,_ ; be rr,ace retroactively. � :!�e issuance o: an}� builcina perr,_t or otner action a�nicn c:,_cc�s �_ _..- tens_`ies an existir.q land use siall be ca�;e ic_ an ac;.:s��.en_ c'_ �tc.- wacer�drainaae fees to an annrc�riate level. i,��^..�=IT]' Secc_ca Nn_ ^1 of the Rese��ille Citv Coce. STOR`: F:ATER UTILITY TYPICAL IAIPERVIOUS < I, R£SIDEtiTIAL: Typical lot and house Impervious: House Drive Patio, Deck, 169� 400 sidewalks 300 2,690 sq.ft. Total area: 11,475 � Iap.= 2690/11,47� = 25.1Bi = 25� II . �1[:;,'; IPLL FF,:�,ZL1 Fd�seville Tstates Ra.:scl :>;vare 4+est�.00c: Villagc IIZ ��_. �.. _ E1 2brito Imsedale Zbwers M 6 M Office Iea;ington Plaza Fose��ille Siop. Ctr L�.ro�ean i:ealt'� S� .", i�st�_ Ioca:ion 273�-2655 Rice 2;.0 Cc. R^:. C 39�-4;7 O�.Fc.0 405 'I�rrace �r. 13�0 'Ihr:ace Dr 17i; :•ar:on St. 175 Idr'r�nte'.s 222� Co. Rc?. B Location Lot Area s; . ft. 988,000 422,000 zzc,000 45,4�0 137,000 63, 800 54,000 42J,OOO± 1925 t:. Peri^iet_ 1700 P:. 'I�i. 36 1611 (b. Rd. B 1700- Lexinqton 11�0; 7�.x-�e�teur 2525 Snellin� Z:�J Prior i,t�. Lot Area Acres 1.43 4.62 2.88 6.54 4.90 1.II7 1.85 52 �n Isproved Are � 438,000 223,OOQ iio,000 28,500 69,G00 44,000 2i,i00 + 201,000- g It--Y,roved 44 � 53� 50 ti 62; 51". 69� 51 : 47ti ,fian = 5'.: = 50�. Z �.ra;c� Area .25 4.12 2.03 6.54 9.75 1.5 1.53 Irr�:ro�.��• 83"; B: 70 100 9E 60 o: 6�.6 ° 8�". IY. INDUSTRZAL Garrett fYeiahtline Nielson tJarehouse Warehonse Warehouse Truck Terminal -� Location 2655 Cleveland 2281 Co. Rd. C 1475 Co. Rd. B2 2250 Terminal 1717 Co. Rd. C ' SCIIOOLS, LTSR+T:]' S P7ISC. PDBLIC Fairview Sr. Ctr. 1910 Fairvie.a 916 �bTt�c (Zex. Elar. ) 2151 N. �g�n Par}:view Jr. FII Co. Rcl. E b Dale �,-o;rr l; (I;c O.:asso) Vic�o:ia S tvoochill �. S. Ar^rl� ( Lk ."rC��'or,1 211 No .�1cCaxror.s :7C}2 Ca-`i=: Sc�l (R.7��i<.r) 25�0 �.S�eil_.�� ;:. Cen�.ral Paz9c F1c�. 535 Co.F�. B-2 Fa,:se}' Hi Se.'�ool '_2�0 O�.Rc. B-� GC':EP.:::'.L::T BL':LDi::GS Azea ::.res 14.3 6.65 4.42 3.32 11.3 1G.8 9.5+ 26.8 7.55 9 .0 13.26 9.51 3G.71 Ft3:�sc;� CoL.-�t1 Lib=ars Co. Rci. B S Fiz l�e � FCSe:_'_le �,:•:iC C�r.teY 2 6�D C"ic Ctr.Dr 19.;? (}all, a--c:,a, cara,a, .ec) (Srs> zoat:y. CHL'RCFiES --• �'--=• -�=•'--_.. Ia�seville Coves�ant Advent Lutheran St. Ch:istn�her �iscoY. Prince of Peace 3:.in, o` ;:ings R�seto..�n Lulieran _.^'_ '._c_ ,::,s�:3oc1) \1': ��:� ••C��6 HdC'.111I1E Ya.line s Jos. Rd. 230� I3z^�line 25b1 Victoria i�ale s iS-I. 36 194E Fez-i wd 11.5 2.1 5.0 9.43 5.3 5.0 3. 33 �� ei:2d 12.5 5.4 3.78 2.92 10.2 5.6 2.3 5.7 2.4 2.15 2.5 3.17 13.1 53 € 7] w ^ •�ai 8� � 61 86 SB 90 86° = 85: 30 ; 27 21 32 24 19 3�.3 36 27 5 '=' :0' • E'- 12.5 - ,g� G� 1'l.' 62.�"_ = C0= 5.51 1.9 2.3 2.5 2.0 1.2 2.5 4c"_ 67 4E 56 JL 24 75 �G.�. _ �. PARKS Developed' Bruce Rus5211 Autumn Grove McCarrons Beach Sand Castle Rosebroori C��y1^.T�2I�. GO:..�' CQ.nS:S Ceciazt�cL:. : cpl. Gol_' �lidlanc }lills Gol` Fbsela�n C��e',.a^r -3- Iocatiar� 1350 t,bo:Ihill I�. Ha7-iline 6 Lydia h3cCarrons Lk. (Rice) 3060 Old Hw}� 8 25i5 Snellin� (6 "C") Area Acres 4.39 6.65 10.8± 2 4+ £3.25 54 I�x'vd $ Area Ac. In�:n�� 0.7 16C 0.85 13 I.9 17 0.54 22 0.9 11 15.6 � = 15 � 2323 }:.:1�.c ("t:.3i) 2�.8 2001 ?tilha.:. 160.93 La.�. s l;ctc:ld iS.D 0.7� 3.5 5.0 3't 2 { 4" STOR*f WAT£R UTILITY RUN�FF FACTORS SGSS Storm Y;ater Catagory Tfpe 8 CS7 Iand Gse Lrperviws (Soil "B") T�sidential Multiple Ca'rrercial : ; 7ndustrial Schools Q�urches/Govt 1�velorx�d Parks �^�etaries, Golf C. 25€ 50 85 85 � SO 15 4 *:•*.:It1�.1C' O° tj^.`1Cn1 CL'Si0.^.1.'.'1 '_'.:P.:.� 70 80 92 92 72 80 67 62 "Standard" 2" Rain Aa�off .24 .56 1.24 1.29 .30 .56 .18 .09 1; �6/84 55 Ru�,o_`:' Factor ( F�u:Ged ) 1 2.5 5 5 1.2� 2.5 .75 .25 When it rains � .� Roseville plans to use a"new" technique to pay •� \ for the costs of managing storm water runoff —� �\ — a Storm Drainage Utility. This leaflet is prepared to introduce you to this new utility and answer your questions. Questions??? & Answers!!! Why do we have a storm drainage system? � � Be(ore people settled in Rose- ville, the natural state o! the land v.�as rolling prairie co��eted with grass and trees �'hen it rained, the v.atec soaL.ed mto the ground or f{o�ed naturally tn the Tieers and streams 11'hen people came to Rose��lle, the� built homes, stores, oFfucs, churches, and pa�•ed the la�d w�th strects, parling lots, and drne�a�s f�n�,..henitralns,the gtound cannot absorb the r.ater as easih•. and more �.ater flows off As the de�elopment of the land continued, It became increavngly V�'hy is a utility needed? Reient Statc lrgisl.>n:r: wc rr- qunr- R;�r.i:�� h, lnlr grratrr and rosthn atlin�s to protect water quaLh in our communit}' than ever befnre. These artin�� will intlude forming tx•o ne,� w•ater management organizations and developing regional and local plans to identify problems. Today, storm water costs are paid for using general taa money —property taxes These newmsts, when combined µ�ith the nearly $200,000 Rose��ille must spend for ongoing storm drainage main- tenance each year, represents a maiur e�pendrture of tax money. Rose� ille must find a a�a�� to meet these nsing costs in a fair and rquitable manner, x•ithout adding additional burden to the properh tax rolls important to control the storm water. Storm drainage facilities had to be built, maintained and renewed in order to: • PROTfCT PFOPLE • PROTEC7 PROPERTY • REDUCE lNSUR.4�'CE R15K.5 • IA1PR01'E PROPEF7Y VALUES • Et�'NA.'�'CE 7NF f.�' l'IR O.�'.IlE:1'7 • FROI'!Df FOF SAFE TR.IFFIC FLON' To control storm v.aters and recen�e these benef��s, there �s a cost The propnsed storm dramage utility `vill sprrad these costs to those wha "create" the storm water runoi�. What is a storm drainage utility? A storm drainaFe utility is similar ro the Eamiliar sanitary se�+•er utility The !ec is based on the amounl e/ n�afn that is discharged into the system For instance, a patking lot creates more runoff than a grass area �he same size, so it pays a higher rate S�milarlp, a large parcel crea�es mure runoff than a smail parcel, so it ton pays a higher amount In thu ..'ay, the tit�iens of Ru�e��Ne will pay for thr managemem of stnrm .catcr m pruportion to the amount e>f water they "rori��h��/'. not un tfic t•alue of ihc�r proprriy VVhat's my share of the costs? The expe.ted quarterh' fees in 19Ai to cu:<�us t.:; ^> :.`; r; cr::i � are shown belox: PROPERTY TYPE QL'ARTERLY RATES Slnele Famil� Hnrt�rs and Duplexes ...................... 54 ?S�l.,: Cemetenes and Golf Courses .......................... 53 25racre Parks and Parkmg Lots ................................ $9 75;acre Schools and Communitc Centers ..................... 57r _-'• r� Multiple Famil}' Dwellings and Churches .............. 532 SO acre Commercial'Industrial ............................... 50� CO acrc Your storm drainage fee will be included on the same water and sewer c��l � ou recei��c each quarter. Also, your fee can be reduced if you can demonstrate that pour Qro- perty has on sire Facihties which impro��e water qualih or reduce its out�lr..• rate. e1V1. u �� O 57 city of richfield s7oo portland avenue • minnesota 5sa23 TRANSMiTTAL DATE� NovembPr 7, 1984 T0� John Flora 643? Univrrsity Avenue NE Fridley, Minnesota 55432 FROM� Michael J. Easl] RE lnfrastruclure ITEMS� No. 1 CiIV Engineer DESCRiPT10N Info on Storm WatPr DrainaKP Lltilitv PURPOSE� _�j_ AS YOU REQUESTED FOR YOUR lNFORMLTION FOR YOUR APPROVAL REMARKS � Cal] me if you need more information. COPY REVIEW GND RETURN REPLY TO SENDER OTHER (5EE REMGRKS) telephone: U b y- r� c i t o�< � an equal uppurtunity employer ,.�...�...r. ._._.___.--___ _._ ...___... ___ .. _..-.--- - CITIZEN'S LEAGUE ' in "The Region's Infrastructure: The Problem Isn't What You Think It is" - p. 35 One of the conclusions: "Giving responsibility for an infrastructure system to an autonomous, fee-based utility make adequate upkeep and attention to the system more likely. Leaving infrastructure systems fn canpetition with other public budget demands is risky." P. 33: "The greatest return on the maintenance dollar probably comes through spending to keep a faci3ity in top shape, preventing the initial deterioration which may lead to a need for replacement." m u I COPTtITTEE ON NATIONAL URBAN POLICY, Etal: Perspectives on Urban Infrastructure, p. 125,'George E. Peterson, Public nance rogram, r an nsti u e "User fees estaDlish an analog to the private market, where prices are set and users pay according to the size af their service consumption." "Such fees have no correlation to the ability to pay. Thts is a problem to xhich we must be sensitive as the proportion of the local budget financed through user fees increases." 59 CITY OF RICHFIELD, MINNESOTA Office of City Manager Council Letter Na. 333 ,• Agenda September 24, 19�L The Honorable Nayor and Members of the City Council Clty of Aichfield Subjec�: Discussion ort Storm Water tlt:lity for Cfty Council Study Sesaion Council Membera: At the July 25, 7983 city council meeting, the staff was . directed to take steps to create a storm uater utillty. T�e staff was to prepare rate schedules depending on Lhe level of service options. The September 24, 198u atudy session will be used to discuss the optiorts available for the levels of service. Level of Service `, Yhe storm water control service that is provided by the clty consists of three elements. First thsre is operationa, This is the work performed to enhance the performance of Lhe �ystem. The emphasis is on the performartce rather than the actual physical facility. Cleaning atorm sewer lines, catch basina and outtalls are exampies of operation taak�. Operatian costs include the power to �un the lift station� artd atreet, sweeping. Street sweeping collecta Lhe silt and debri� before it reaches the catch baslns and drains Snto the ponds. �. A second element of Lhe atorm Water control serv;ce ia maintenance. Maintenance is uork performed to keep up the existing physical system. An example of this !a the dredging of whole ponds ao that they do not fill up with the silt contained in the storm water. Another costly maintenance item is the rtpair of the adjustment rings that aupport the catch basin (sLreet drain) castings which collect Lhe water from the streets. The city ha� been spending aDout =20,000 a year tc maintain these rings and should spend at least twice that to prevent the erosion Of the subgrade under our streeLs. The third element of storm water control service is t��e capital expenditures. These capital expenditures are addi�ions to the system or major rehabilitatian. The engineering f:rm of Orr-Schelen-Mayeron 6 Associates, Inc. (OSM) has completed a storm water control enalysis of the city'a entire aystem. Engirteers from OSM xill be at the study session to explairt haw ihe study was done and wfiat new information is noa available. This study xill be helpful in the determination of_which capital projects uould be the mast effective. � 60 :.i ',}i 's" .'4 {x ;: �,. , .� s.� �• � -2- ihe Rate Schedule , The attached atorm xater utility�lev.el of service schedule (Attachment A) identifies three level� of service that could be available. Cevel of Service A identifies taeks which are currently performed by the city which could be assigned to the storm water utility. Some of these funetions are noa funded by the sanitary sewer utility and some through the general fund. Level of Service A includes the cleaning af storm sewer lines, catch basins and outfalls, power for lift stations, spring and fall street aweeping, repair of catch basins, aad some limited dredging. Level of 5ervice B includes all thoae servicee in the Level of Service A plua a summer street sweeping program and additlonal dredging. For approximately a15,000 to a20,000 a summer, a�treet sueeper can be kept ors duty for constant sweeping, The rate of catch basin repair would be at least doubled and the dredging significantly increased. Alao included in Level of Service B ia E20,000 for capital expenditure�. This 320,000 could be used to pay off a bond for a S16Q,000 Lo i200,000 oapital pro�ect. � The Level of Service C is the same aa Level of Service 8 except thaL =200,000 would be Sdentlfied for debt retirement. This money could be u�ed to retire bonda for a capital project for between t.6 and 2 million dolla�a. � The attached storm water utility raLe schedule (Attachment B) Sndicates Lhe estimated cost impact of these three level� of aervice on typical propertie� in the eity. Although no formal action can be taken at the atudy session, the staff is seeking direction from the city council as to the de�ired level of aervice ta be provided by Lhe utility. A public hearing can be acheduled and irtfarmation about the utility can be prepared to be distributed to the residents by a �rochure similar to the one used by Roseville (Attachmertt C). Richfield Lake coat estimates are al�o Sncluded as Attachment D. The alternative� will De discus�eQ at the �tudy session. Continuing discussion and possible action related to Richfield Lake pathway alternatives will alsa be scheduled for the regular council agenda. ._ Attachmertt E is a letter from Orr-Schelen-Mayeron and Aseociates, Inc. which outlines certain drainage probleme in the city along with recommended priority of solution implementation. Respectfull submitted, hn G. Car ri t ci t.� wa�na.� 61 '� 'i , ! evel of Ser•rice 0?EdATI0N5 MA:�TENA�C'c � _A?:TAi .-C'.��5 STOR.M 'dA;ER U;ILITI' ?��L`AL EXPEVP.L?�'RES A B $ 9a,00C 5115,000 5 30,000 $ i5,000 - 5 ZO,OOG AtCachmenC A 62 C S115,000 $ %5,000 S:G0,000 512s,000 S2i0,000 $39C.000 63 PRELIMIhARY S70RM DRAINnGE U7ILITY BUDGET OpPrations: Clean lines, manho7es, outfalls Spring/Fal] Sweeping Power for Lifl StaLions Tesling, moniloring, engineering, administration, �iscellaneous iincluding WaLrrshPd Dislricl conlracts) Surtvner sveeping Today (A) $15,000 70,000 3,000 6,000 Proposed (B) $20,000 70,000 3.000 • �� ]6,000 Maint�nance: Repair rings on catth basins $18,000 $40,OOU Dredging 10,000 25,000 Repair pipes and outfalls 2,000 10,000 Capital: Additions lo the sys�em or major rehabililation Estimate 10-12°/, of capila] expendiiure for debi relirement of bond. $2,000,000 invesLmenl yield approximalely $220,OOQ bond payment. � AC[achment B STORM N'ATER UTItITY RATE SCHEDULE * RESIDE[:TIAL - per lot (average 65' lo[; Approximately $1 annual fee per household for each 516,000 apent on utility OR � Level of Service A B C ; (nnnually) 58•00 513.20 S2'..�0 (Quazterly) S2•00 $ 3.30 $ 6.10 --�------------------'-----------'------------------------------------------------- * CO�;ERCIAL Level of Service A 65' Lot: (Annually) 524•00 (Quarterly) S 6.00 � 539.20 S 9.80 C $73.2C 518.30 One Acre: (nnnually) 5116.80 5196.40 $366.00 (Quarcerly) $29•20 $49.10 $91.50 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AhTIUAL FEE FOR ABDITSONAL CAPITAL EXPE`�SES Residential 65' Lo[ Comme:cial One �cre Cor,rner:ial ,\ S.� Mil. $1 Mil. S1.5 Mil. $ 3.�0 $ 7.00 $ 1D.50 $ 10.50 $ 21.00 $ 31.50 S 52.50 $105.00 5157.00 S2 Mil. $ 14.00 $ 42.00 $210.00 $3 Mil. 54 M'_1. $ 21.00 $ 28.'- $ 63.00 g 84.�_ $315.00 $42;.G'� 64 � 65 ,, s• �! as d oa�:,UP source oi :neatin� uo�oe3 in,ie'�tc�ness for Lh� goi coursz could call inco questiio:� Lne feasibility of k,aving tl�ose profiLS .availo5lc for ad.iiticn3l abli�;eLion. q, ;;• �cial Assc�s�nents � 'i',.i� prxess N-�s atLeaiyte� in 1;�7� anJ 1)79. Testinb for required benefit by the courLs makes it doubtful that these special •�ssessmeu�s co�ld u> suscained. j, ;;_n�ral Obli'�tio� donas A,;.:in this .+oul� re�uirc � rel'erend��. REC�Y.h��.DATIO�� , a;;torui Draina;;c U`ility S.IJJl� be initiated. Utner life lines in ttie city such as tn�• :ater, 5anitary seuer dnd arterial stPe�t systems are i'indn:e:; t❑r�u�:i �ser feos. T:iis � predictable, reliab�e anS equitable method of financing removes these public he�ltn an.i we1C:,�e issues from L'ne annual - co�petition for Lhe Eencral funj dollar. � 2, �;�e.:ial Reve�ues (?) �ho�l� not be used to fund tnc sLOrR water control projects viLhout careful consideration of which . yrojec�s no:+ o� che fi�e year Cipitai Improvement Program uould � be delayed. j, ine �ood L�ke con��it sysL°r o?ti:niz�tion and tne r»th StreeL and %erxes Avenue improve:nenss should be done. Tne be�ef�ss from this project are clearly uorL'n relatively irodest CITY OF fRIDLEY HOUSING & REDEVELOPMEIJT AUTHORITY MEETING NOUEMBER 8, 1984 CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Cortmers declared the November 8, 1984, flousing & Redevelopment ",uthority meeting to order at 7:03 p.m. ROLL CALL: Mer�bers Present Meri6ers Absent Larry Commers, Elmars Prieditis, Carolyn SvenAsen, Duane Prairie Walter Rasmussen Others Present: Nasim Qureshi, IIRA Director Sid Inman, City finance Director Dave Newman, Citv At±orney Chris Wegemer, General Mana9er, Storer Cable Keith Hennek, System Plant Manager, Storer Cable APPROVAL OF OCTOBER 11 1984 HOUSIP�f E� REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY PIINUTES: MO^ION BY ASR. PIUIIRIE, SEC07JDED BY MR. PP.ZEDZTIS� TO APPP.DYE TNE OC.T. I1� Z984, XOUSING & REDEVEIAPb?ENT AUTHORI_TY MZNUTES AS PTRITTEN. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE, CXRIFtPERSON COMMERS PECLAP,ED THE MOTrpN CRRRIL'P UNANIMOUSLY. APPROVAL OF AGENDA: Mr. Commers stated that since representatives from Storer Cable were at the meeting, he would request that they be first on the agenda. MOTIAN BY MR. PRIEDITIS� SECONDED BF' MR. PRAIRIEi 21� APPR04'E THE AGENPA AS AMENDED. UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTIN6 AYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED TNE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 1. RELOCATION bF OUERHEAD CABLE TO UNDERGROUND CABLE BY STORER CABLE: Mr. Wegemer, General Manager, Storer Cable, stated that approximately ten days ago, they received a call from the City that Storer was required to move on the Mississippi Project. He stated this was the first notification Storer has received since their request for reimbursement. He stated the HRA had received a letter from Storer in May with a draft reimbursement of their expenses. He stated he had reviewed the HRA's June meeting minutes HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING NOVEMBER 8 1984 PAGE 2 in which the HRA decided to deny Storer's request for reimbursement. He stated that apparently, the basis for that decision might have been based on an erroneous recommendation fran City Staff; namely, that the franchise agreement with the City states that "removal or replacement of service lines shall be at the expense of Storer". Mr. Wegemer read the following from the franchise agreement, Section 6.05, Undergrounding of Cable: "The placement of cable underground is encouraged. Cables shall be installed underground at Storer's expense where all existing utilities are alread underground, Previously installed aerial cable shall be placed undergroun tn concer with other utilities when such other utilities may convert from aerial to underground construction." Mr. Wegemer stated there was no explanation that this had to be done at Storer's expense, and he would assert that as being an intentional distinction. He stated this might have been an oversight on the City's part and he wanted to bring thts to the HRA's attention as it was a concern of Storer's as they start the Mississippi project. Mr. Commers stated the cost for the project provided to the HRA previously was $17.282. Mr. �eith Hennek, System Plant Manager for Storer, stated that figure was correct. That figure included labor and materials. Mr. Wegemer stated that v�as a summer price. Had they received a response from the City early enough before Oct. 1 when the winter prices went into effect, they could have done the project at that price. Now the price will increase with the winter rates. He stated he understood NSP was relocating some of its lines underground right now. How quickly did the City plan on having this done? If there was no urgency, the City could save money by waiting until the first thaw to ahve the cable relocated, Mr. Qureshi stated the timing was not a big problem. He stated the question here was one of policy as to whether Storer should be paying for the relocation of the overhead cable or the NRA. Mr. Qureshi stated Storer is using public right-of-way. It is provided that whenever the City makes improvements, the utility has to do the relocation at its cost. The City is putti�g everything underground, and that is why Storer should put their cable underground also. It was not specifically mentioned in the franchise agreement that Storer pay for it. Mr. Commers stated that apparently the HRA's legal counsel had not had a chance to review this matter, Since it was Storer's claim that the HRA made its decision based on the wrong interpretation of some languange in the francfiise agreement, and since there was not a timing problem, he would suggest that their legal counsel review this before the next meeting. The HR4 members agreed this suggestion was appropriate. HOUSING & REDEUELOPMENT AUTHORITV MEETIN6 NOVEM6ER 8 1984 PAGE 3 MOTION BY MR. PRIEDZTIS, SECONDED BY MS. SVENUSEN, 7b REFER TXE MRTTER OF HE �LOCRSION OF OVERHEAD CABLE TO UNDERGROUND CABLE BY STORER CABLE COMMUNICASIONS TO LEGAL CDUNSEL FOR REVZE[d AND INTERPRETATIDN OF THE FRANCHZSE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND STORER CABLE. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG RYE� CHAIRPERSpN COMMERS DECLARED THE MOTION CRRRIED UNRNIMOUSLY, Mr. Comners asked that their legal counsel have a written report available for the next meeting. Mr. Wegemer thanked the HRA for their consideration in this matter. 2. CONSIDERATION OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE HRA ALTY INVESTORS Mr. Qureshi stated the HRA members had received in their agenda packets an outline of the agreement he has worked out with the new owners of the Holly Shopping Center, Heartland Realty. Since then, they have formalized it into a formal agreement that has been prepared by 0'Connor & Hannon. Essentially, it incorporated the conditions of the outline received in the agenda packet and was basically what they had discussed at the last HRA meeting. Mr. Comners stated he thought the procedure the HRA had been following woulcl negate the necessity of a public hearing. Mr, Qureshi stated it has been sug9ested that a public hearing might not be required; however, Jim 0'hieara did say a public hearing should be held and a suggested date was the D2c. 13 HRA meeting, Mr. Corrmers asked P1r. Qureshi to briefly surrmarize the proposal, Mr. Qureshi stated that basically the preposal said that the Holly Center owners will comnit about $350,000 to make improvements to their property, $100,000 out of that they are willing to accept as assessments. The rest of it they will finance privately. The work that is going to be done on the building, essentially the si9nage and the facade improvements and pylon, will be done by the Holly Center owners. Some of the curbing, landscaping, and other improvements along Mississippi and the 9reenway will be done by the HRA and assessed to the owners, that cost to not exceed $100,000. Mr. Qureshi stated there is a plan the City is req�iring from the Holly Center owners along Mississippi St. for improving the traffic situation. 7he Ho71y Center owners are buying the gas station property which the HRA will buy and sell 6ack, retaining a portion for the Mississippi St. improvement. Mr. Commers asked what the HRA's net contributions to this project were overall. Mr, Qureshi stated they are looking at a total cost of approx. $225,000. He stated the other element is that the Holly Center owners are spending $350,000. The Holly Center owners have also agreed to accept a minimum HOUSING & REDEUELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETIP�G, NOVEMBER 8 1984 PAGE 4 evaluation for the shopping center starting Jan, 2, 1985, of $23, million. That brings to the HRA roughly $40,000 a year extra, and that is how the HRA will actually be able to pay this back in 5-6 years. Mr, Qureshi stated that if tfie HRA feels this agreement is satisfactory, they should tuake a motion authorizing their approval of the resolution. The next step would be to authorize Staff to publish �he notice of public hearing for Dec. 13. The HRA members questioned the need for approval of the agreement at this meeting if a public hearing was to be held at the next meeting. Mr. Qureshi stated that if there was any hesitation, maybe the HRA should approve the agreement in concept subject to the public hearing with final approval at the public hearing. Mr. Comners stated he thought the HRA members were agreeable in concept. 7hey have done that before. If they are going to have the public hearing. it. might be more prudent to wait until then to give final approval. MOTION BY MR, PRIEDITSS� SECONDED BY MR. PRAZRIE, TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO PUDLISH THE NOTIFZCATION OF PUBLIC HERRSNG FOR DEC. 13� 2984� RELATING TO TXE AGREEMENT BE2WEEN THE HRJ1 AND XEARTLAND REALTY INVESTORS� INC. UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE MO2ION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Mr. Commers stated that Staff could relay to Heartland Realy Investors, Inc., that it was the concensus of the HRA that it was all right if Heartland Realty Investors wanted to go ahead and sign the agreement. 3. "DISCOVER DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY - CITY OF FRIDLEY": Mr, Qureshi stated Staff had given the HRA a mock-up of this brochure at a previous meeting, and this was now the formal printing. He stated this was what the City will be distributing and putting into the community brochure with a cover letter. Hopefully, this will generate some interest in develop- ment in the southwest quadrant. Mr. Qureshi stated that if any of the tenants in the area want to know what is happening, the HRA members can say that the City is making it known that this land is available, but that there are no proposals at this time. He stated this time, the City's approach will be a little more prudent. They will screen the potential developers and a proposal will not be brought before the HRA until the City feels a developer is really financially sound and can really produce a good package. He stated that at this time, none of the tenants have been advised of this brochure and he did not feel it was a good idea to advise them that the City was doing this, because even with all this promotion, there is the possibility that nothing will happen anyway. HOUSING & REUEVEtOPMENT AUTHaRITY MEETIN6, NOVEMBER 8, 1984 PAGE 5 Mr. Prieditis stated the tenants or owners will probably find out about tfiis anyway. 5omehow someone is going to see this brochure and rumours aill start going around. Why not just write a statement of what Mr, Qureshi had just said--that at this po'nt, there are no proposals and when there is a solid proposal, the tenants will be informed, Mr. Prairie agreed and stated he thought the tenants want to be made aware of what is goin9 on. Mr, Qureshi stated he still disagreed with that approach. Mr, Inman stated he agreed with Mr. Qureshi. It was not as if this was some- thing brand new or something they are just starting. The other thin9 that has changed is the difference in this center. Before,the center was in a loss position and now tenants are fighting to get in there across the street from Target and the new Holly Center. Mr. Qureshi stated that when they do get a formal proposal that they think has good possibilities, they can make sure that they protect the iqterests of the existing tenants as much as they reasonably can. Ms. Svendsen stated she agreed with what Mr, Qureshi was saying, but on the other hand, the HRA menibers are asked questions every day, and she did not want them to be perceived as hiding anything when they are not. Mr. Qureshi stated this Has a redevelopment district. The City has been pro- moting it, but so far nothing has happened, 7he tenants will the first to know if something really happens on that property, and the City and the HRA will do everything within reason to protect their interests. Mr. Prieditis stated his concerns had been in terms of a courtesy message to the tenants, but he could see where this could be rather difficult. He was willing to accept Mr. Qureshi's exp7anation and agreed the HRA should proceed the way he had descrihed. Mr. Qureshi stated he firmly believed in not disturbing the tenants until Staff was satisfied that a developer has the strength and ability to put a good proposal together. Then, before anything is approved, they can make sure they get public input. Ms. Svendsen stated she also agreed with Mr. Qureshi. It would be fine if people were able to perceive a letter the way it o-ras intended, but there was a great opportunity for the tenants to nisinterpret that letter, That o-�ould make things worse instead of better. Mr. Prairie stated he could see advantages and disadvantages to notifying the tenants. H�USING & REDEVELOPMENT AllTHORITY MEETING, NOVEMBER 8 1984 PAGE 6 Mr, Commers stated this was certainly a legitimate issue, but at this point, he felt it was the concensus of the HRA that they go forward with the mailing of the 6rochure and hope there was no adverse developments as a result of not conenunicating specifically or especially with anyone. The HRA members thought the brochure was a nice looking brochure and very well done, They received it and approved it. 4. FIt�ANCIAL STATEMENT �OR PERIOD OF JAP�. 1 1984 70 NOV. 8, 1984: Mr, Inman reviewed the financial statement which included a recap of the billing presented at the last meeting which was not approved at that meeting. MOTION BY F43. PRAIRZE� SECONDED BY MS. SVENDSEN, TO RUTHORIZE PAYMENT OF TKE 82LL FOR SERVICES IN TNE TARGET PRaJECT AREA THROUGH SEPT. 30� 1984, TOTALLING $163,530.Z5, AS STATED SN TNE FINANCZAL STATEM.ENT, UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING RYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE MOTZON CARRIED JNANIMODSLY. MOTION BY MS. SVENASEN, SECONDED BY MR. PRIEDZTIS, TO AUTXORZ2E PAYMENT OF Tf:E BSLL FOR PERSOI'7AL SERVICES AND OPERAPING EXPENSES IN TNE AMOUNT OF $46,198.d3. UPON A VOZCE VOTE, RLL VOTING AYE, CXAZRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 5. OTHER BUSINESS: a. Municipal Warehouse Liquor Store Mr. Inman stated they are rapidly finishing the hardware store. The 6uilding was in pretty bad shape because it had sat empty for such a long time. They are looking at Dec. 13 and 14 as the grnad opening dates for the municipal warehouse liquor store, They would be looking at approving the lease before the grand opening. b. Contest Mr. Qureshi stated that at the last rrteeting, they had discussed the idea of a contest to get some ideas for a design for the Mississippi/Highway 47 intersection. He stated he had given the HRA members some drafted materials regarding the contest for their review. He stated he would welcome their input. NOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETIN6, NOVEMBER 8, 1984 PAGE ADJOURNMENT: 80TIOP7 BY M5, SVENDSEN, SECONDED BY MR. PRAIRIE, TO ADJDURN SHE MEETING. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALi VOTZNG AYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE NOV, 8� 1484, HOITSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORI2Y MEE27NG AATOURNED AT 8:45 P,M. Respectfully submi ted, _.c. ,1��.. Lyn�e Sa a Recording Secretary CITY �F FRI�LEY pARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 20, 1984 CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Kondrick called the November 20, 1984, Parks & Recreation Commission meeting t� order at 7:30 p.m. R�LL CALL: Members Present: Dave Kondrick, Mary Schreiner. Dick Young, Dan Allen, Steve Nelson Memhers Absent: None Others Present: Charles Boudreau, Parks & Recreation Director Jack Kirk, Recreation Supervis�r Jerry Bethel APPROVAL OF SEPTEMBER 24, 1984, PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTZON BY MR, RLLEN, SECON➢ED BY MR. NELSON� TO RPPROVE THE SEP2. 24, 1984� PARKS 6 RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN. UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSQN KONDRICK DECI.ARED THE MOTION CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY. APPROUAL OF AGENDA: MOTION BY MR. YOUNG� SECONDED BY FII2. ALLEN, Rb AFPROVE THE AGENDA AS PRESEN2ED. UPON A YOICE VOTB, ALL VOTING AYE� CHRIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE MOTZON CAf2R2ED UNANIMOUSLY. 1. DIRECTOR'S REPORT: a. VFW Special Olympics Dr. Boudreau stated that earlier the VFW had requested the use of the comnunity park fields for a one-day 5pecial Olympics softball tournament on Sat., June 3. 1985. They had written a letter changing the date to a week later, but they have now written a letter stating they will not be fwlding the tournament. Apparently the sponsorship of the State Special Olympics softball tournament went to the City of Lakeville. The UFW did Chank the City f�r its assistance and stated they were sorry for any inconvenience to the City. pARKS S RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 20, 1984 PAGE 2 b. HAF 1984-85 - Jerry Bethel Dr. Boudreau stated that Mr. Bethel was at the meeting to give a report on the hockey program and broomball program. Dr. Boudreau handed out a copy of a letter written to him from Mr, Bethel which answered some of the questlons the Commissioners had last year. Dr. Boudreau stated Mr. 6ethel had met with Mr. Kirk and himself the previous night to discuss the hockey program. He stated it was a very cordial meeting, and they kind of matched phi]osophies about programming and ideas about what the role the HAF could play in the youth programs in Fridley, especially the house league and broomball league. Mr. Bethel stated that in the three attachments to his letter, he had tried to project for the 1984-85 season the referee fees, ice fees, equip- ment fees, and support for broomball and house hockey. Attachment III was a summary of the expenses and support for both broomball and house hockey. Mr. Bethei stated that as indicated in the cover letter, they have done a couple of things differently this year than in the past, and that was that in order to enhance the program and get more youth involved, they launched a"recruiting" program. It was their feeling that perhaps some of the younger youth in FridTey were staying away because of the expense of hockey. 7hey thought if they could come up with a way of getting these boys started as cheaply as possible by giving them free registr�ation (for Ponies and 5quirts only), free stick, puck, and five skate sharpenings, it might serve as an incentive for boys to sign up. He stated this recruitment program �as turned out quite we11, They have 30+ ponies th9s year, and last year he believed there were only 8 monies in the program, Mr. Bethel stated the projected costs for the broomba7l program was based on having two junior level teams and four senior level teams. Last year they had four junior level teams and six senior 7eve1 teams, so the numbers are down considerably. He s*_ated there was the possibility of getting enough girls to make one more senior team. Mr. Bethel stated that regarding the ice fees, they have always had their tournaments at Augsburg, which has the most expensive ice in town. It was possible those play-off games can be held at Columbia Arena this year due to the availability of ice which has not been there in past years. The ice fees were a little high as they were prajected at Augsburg prfces ($85/hr.} whi7e Columbia Arena was $65/hr „ so that fee might be changed. Mr. Bethel stated that regarding support in both broomball and house hockey, they have always asked for $150 from the sponsors. Not all teams give $150, so some teams are aliowed $100. That was the reason for the average of �725. They have a pizza sale as a fundraiser, The broomball girls sold $822,25 worth of pizzas, and the house hockey boys sold $2,072.00 worth of pizzas. That was all profit. PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 20, 1984 PAC,E 3 Mr. Bethel stated that as explained in the cover letter, they have put the house hockey teams in a league with Blaine, Spring Lake Park, and Centennial in an effort to play more games and have more fun, The HAF will support that with up to 12 hrs, of ice per game. They wa�t at least half of their games to be played on indoor ice. This is at no assessment to the parents. Mr. Young stated he would like to thank Mr. Bethel for taking the time to put this report together this year. Last year he was one of the Cortmissioners who was very frustrated because they were hoping to get some type of report like this. He hoped Mr. Bethel appreciated where the Comnission was coming from and why they wanted a report like this. Last year the Comnissior. was told several times that someone from the HAF would come to the Commission meeting to give an explanation of the program expenses and no one ever came. Mr. Young stated he was sure he was speaking on behalf of the whole Commission in thanking Mr. Bethel for his time and efforts, because it made the Commission a little more aware of the program, the number of participants, age brackets, what it costs to run the program, He was really pleased to see the good participation in fund-raising programs. Dr, Boudreau stated the HAF was not requesting any financial aid from the City of Fridley this year. After the discussion with Mr. Bethel and Mr. Kirk, he would like to make the recomnendation that the City waive the $2 per participant fee that has been charged to the HAF in the past in an effort to assist the HAF in trying to be self-sustaining. Dr. Boudreau stated the HAF's figures show a deficit of about b429. He would recommend that if the need does arise, the City assist the HAF in an amount up to �450. Dr. Boudreau stated those were the two recommendations he would like to make to the Commission. He applauded Mr, Bethel's efforts in trying to pull things together this year. The City did not pay out any money to the HAF last year, nor did the City collect the $2 per participant fee. MOTION BY MR. YOUNG, SECONDED BY MS. SCXREINER� TO RECOMMEND THRT THE CITY OF FRSDLEY WAIVE TXE $2 PER PARTICIPANT FEE TO THE HAF FOR TNE 2984-85 SEASON, UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHRIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Dr. Boudreau stated that some time ago, he had talked to the Comnission about his and P1r. Kirk's idea that the City might want to go with a per registrant fee as far as assisting the HAF and the FYSA. In looking at the numbers, at $3 per registrant for the hockey and broomball programs, they would come up with $414. The per registrant fee would encourage the HAF to get its participation up. He stated it would be timely now if the Cortanission would like to support the HAf at a reverse. Instead of collect- PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 20, 1984 PAGE 4 ing $2 per participant from the HAF, they would pay $3 per registrant for the broomball and hockey programs. Mr. 62the1 stated he would be in favor of this. It would alleviate a lot of the headacfies in the programming as the per participant fee to the City has been somewhat cumbersome. MOTSON BY MR. YOUNG� SECONDED BY MR. ALLEN� TO RECOMPSEND THAT THE CZTY OF FRZDLEY SUPPLEMENT THE HAF ZNCOME BY PROVIDING THEM WITH $3 PER REGISTRANT IN THEIR PROGRAM FOR TXE YEAR 1984-85� WITH THE PROVISZON THAT THE XAF PROVIDE THE COMMZSSION WITH A FINANCZRL SUMMARY AT THE END OF THE HOCKEY/ BROOMBRLL SEASON, UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE, CNAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE MOTION CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY. Mr. Nelson stated he has worked with the HAF in the past. He stated that this year the whole program has really pul7ed together and the HAF is heading in the right direction. Mr. Bethel has done a fantastic jo6 in providing strong leadership to the HAf. The Commissioners again expressed their sincere thanks to Mr. Bethel for his time and efforts in putting this report together. c. Opening of Handicap Trail and Fall Festival at Springbrook Nature Center Dr. Boudreau stated the opening of the handicap trail and the fall festival were on Sat., Sept. 29. He stated the fall festival was well attended. He would encouraee the Cortmission members to get out to the nature center and see some of the other improvements that have been made. Dr. Boudreau stated he did not have any new information regarding the petition, but he would keep the Commission members informed of any new developments. 2. NEIJ BUSINESS: a. 19i34-85 Rink and General Ice Locations Dr. Boudreau stated the Commission members had received a copy of the map of tfie ice lcoations in the City. These locations were basically the same as last year with the exception of the rink at the Rice Creek School location which was no longer there. They are developing a new park area to the south and west of the Rice Creek School location where they p?an to have a general skating area. If the Commission was in agreement with these locations, he would appreciate their approval. MOTION BY MR. ALLEN, SECONDED BY MR. YOUNG� TO APPROVE THE 1984-85 RINX AND GENERAL ICE LOCATIONS. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED TfE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. HUMAN RESOURCES COhMI5SI0N MEETIN6, DECEMBER b, 1984 PAGE 4 5. Data utilization 6. Publicity on No-Fault Grievance Procedure Committee 7. Inspection and code enforcement--method of implementation and attitudes E 0 Traffic safety and bicyclists going east and west CDBG funds (ongoing) Mr. Treuenfels stated he would take the following items and would try to write something up for the next meeting: (t) Latch key program; (2} Police/community relations; (3) Data utilization; (4) Publicity on No-Fault Grievance Procedure comnittee. Ms. Kocher stated she would take the following areas for next meeting: (1) Inspection and code enforcement; (2) Traffic safety for pedestrials and bicyclists going east and west. Mr. Minton stated he would take the following areas for next neeting: (1) Human service needs; (2) Volunteer recognition. b. Other New Business: (1) Change in Meeting Room Mr. Hunt stated he had a memo from Councilmen-Elect Brian Goodspeed suggesting that it might be more appropriate for some of the commissions to use the Council chambers than the rooms they are now using. Mr. Hunt stated he has been asked to ask the Human Resources Comnission if they would like to meet in the Council chambers or continue to use Canmunity Room II. The Commission merr�ers agreed they would prefer to continue to meet in Comnunity Room II as this meeting room was more comfortable and more informal. (2) Resignation of Brian Goodspeed riOTSON BY FII2, TREUENFELS� SECONDED BY MS. KOCHER� TO EXPRESS THE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION'S THRNKS A17D GRATITUDE TO THEIP. DEPARTING COMMISSIONER, COUNCIZMAN-ELECT BRIAN GOODSPEED, NE HAS SEP,VED MANY YERRS pN THE COMMZSSION, SOME AS CXAIRPERSON. Mr. Minton stated the Comnission members were happy that Mr. Goodspeed had won the election, but they would certainly miss him on the Commission. HUMAN RESaURCES COMMISSION MEETING, DECEMBER 6, 1984 PAGE 3 2. NEW BUSINESS: a. Consideration of 1985 Work Plan Mr. Treuenfels stated the Comntssfon might do a litt]e brainstorming at this meeting about some general areas for the 1985 work plan and then select some areas to be discussed more fu11y at the next meeting. Mr.Goodspeed stated that seeing how things turned out in November and how Reagen's budget is now being published in the paper, it was obvious that the cut in human service funding the people saw four years ago was going to look like nothing compared to what it is going to be now. As a City Council person, it will never again be to his advantage to look at things in the City that are doing poorly. It will be his job to get re-elected to point out that things are running well. Mr. Goodspeed stated he would appreciate a commission that did a good job in finding the needs in the City and voicing those needs loudly, not just to the City Council, but to the rest of the community as well. As a City Council person, he will take the Commission's recommendations very seriously. He would appreciate having the support of the public behind him, too, which the Commission is in a good position to foster. Mr. Goodspeed stated he would like to see the Cortmission members get a little more recognition than they have gotten in the past. The Commission has talked about volunteerism in the past. He was going to suggest to the City Manager, Mr. Qureshi, that from r,ow on when new commissioners are appointed, maybe they could be spotlighted in the city newsletter. Mr. Goodspeed stated there has been talk about remodeling the Council chambers because it was originally built to operate both as a courtroom and Council chambers. It was the Council's feeling that the rom was a little too formal. Mr. Goodspeed stated he has suggested that if they are going to make the room less formal in the future, maybe they could make a Council chambers that would also work well for some other comnission meetings. He would like to see the status of the commissions boosted a little bit and so the comnissions are visible in their recommendations. Mr. Goodspeed stated the two things he would like to see done by the Comnission in the upcoming year were: (1) Identification of human service needs in light of federal cutbacks; and (2) Recognition of volunteers. The Commissioners identified the following items for the 1985 work plan for discussion at the next meeting: 1, Identification of human service needs in the commnunity 2, Recognition of volunteers 3. Latch key program (ongoing) 4. Police/community relations HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING, DELEMBER 6, 1984 PAGE 2 c. Consideration of Latch Key Program in Fridley Mr. Treuenfels stated the Comnunity Education Advisory Council has decided to support the concept of the latcfi key program and has passed a resolu- tion to that effect. The resolution went to tfie School Board, the School Board was pleased to accept it, and now tRe Schoo7 Board has returned it to the Latch Key Comnittee to hammer out the details. So, the latch key program is moving ahead. A meeting was held on Nov. 29, and the next meeting will be Dec. 10. Mr. Treuenfels stated the Community Education Advisory Council is now discussing two questions: (1} Where should this latch key program be held--at Parkview School which is centrally located and children would be dropped off in the morning by their parents and bussed to and from school, or at the respective elementary schools? (2) Whether to contract some of the services out or do everything by the Comrnunity Education people. The feeling seems to be that, based on the experiences of other schools, it might be better for the Comnunity Education people to do everything themselves because there is better control. Mr. 7reuenfels stated he would welcome any comments. Mr. Minton stated there was a nice article in the Fridley Focus newspaper about the latch key program. He stated he was always more in favor of doing things by contract rather than adding more staff to the public civil service system. He felt they would have much more control over contracts than they do over their own employees. Discussion continued until the next meeting. d. Consideration of Grants to Human Service Organizations from 1954 CDBG Funds: Mr. Hunt stated the Commission members had received copies of all the proposals that were received by the deadline date. He stated they did not receive a proposal from either SACA or the Senior Citizen Center. Mr. Hunt stated the Commission members will need to make their recommen- datings as soon as possible and get these recoMmendations to the City Council. Mr. Minton stated the Comnission members should be prepared to rank these organizations and make recommendations at the next meeting. e. Other Old Business: Fridley Representative on ACCHRB (Anoka County Community Housing Resource Board) Mr. Goodspeed stated he had talked to one realtor about representing Fridley on ACCHRB. Although this person was not able to be t�at repre- sentative, he had given Mr. Goodspeed several names of people who might be interested. Mr. Goodspeed stated he would try to get in touch with these people before January 1. CITY OF fRIDLEY HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING DECEMBER 6, T984 CALL TO ORllER: Chairperson Minton caTled the December 6, 1984, Human Resources Comnission meeting to order at 7:09 p.m. ROLL CALL: Meetbprs Present Mer�bers Absent: Ottiers Present: 8ob Minton, Peter Treuenfe7s, Biran 600dspeed, Barbara Kocher Arlie Niemi Bill Hunt, Administrative Assistant APPROVAL OF NOVEMBER 1, 7984; HUF1AN RESOURCES COMh1I55I0N MINUTES: MOTION BY MR. TREUENFEIS� SECONDED BY MR. GOOASPEED, TO APPROVE THE NOV. 1� 1984, HUMAN RESDURCES COMMSSSSON MSNUTES AS WRSTTEN, UPON A(�OICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON MZNTON DECLARED TXE MOTZON C1lXRIED UNA1iIMOUSLY. 1.. OLD BUSIt�ESS: a. Consideration of Locke House/Banfill Tavern Renovation Mr. Minton stated the Planning Commission had received a copy of the memorandum to the Mayor and City Council on the Banfill Tavern recommendations at their Nov. 28th meeting. He had reviewed the memo with the Cor.mission menbers,and he had made a motion that passed unanimously to endorse the memo and pass it on to the City Council. He stated the Planning Cormtission was very positive about this statement, and were very impressed with the work the Human Resources Commission has done. The memo will probabiy be at the City Council meeting of Dec. 17. Mr. Hunt stated he had received a call from Ms. G1ass from the North Suburan Center for the Arts. They are very anxious to move ahead. He stated he had encouraged her that if they have a proposal, that they make the proposal directly to the County as soo� as possible. b. Consideration of Disaster Preparedness Mr. Treuenfels stated he had nothing further Lo report. Discussion continued until the next meeting. ENERGY COMMISSION MEETIN6, N04EMBER 27, 1484 PAGE 6 Mr. 6roody stated another suggestion would be for the Comnission members to attend a Neigfiborhood Energy Workshop. The Comnission members agreed they would definitely like to pursue this They agreed they should attend a workshop and asked Staff to get a schedule of up- coming workshops and meetings. Mr. Sa6a thanked Mr. Groody for coming to the meeting and for his presentation. 2. UP�ATE ON CO MONITOR PROGRAM: Mr. Robinson stated the CO chemical 6adges have been ordered. After the City Attorney has reviewed the instruction sheet that will accompany the badges and if everything is alright, they will be mailing out the badges along with a letter, the instructions, and an informative article on carbon monoxide to those people who have called the City expressing an interest in having a badge. Mr. Robinson stated he had also ordered the CO monitor with the alarm. Originally, it was a$39 item, However, the company had called to make sure this was the item the Commission wanted as it was a 12 volt unit with a very soft buzzer because it was made for cars and aircraft, If they wanted a unit for domestic home use, they would want another unit which was 110 volt. This unit was $20 more, but was a very fine tuned instrument. Mr. Robinson stated he told the company to send the 110 volt unit. 3. OTHER BUS:tJESS: a. December Meeting Date The Comnissioners agreed not to meet in December because of the holidays. Next meeting date - January 22, 1985. ADJOURNMENT: MQTSON BY MR. DOUGLAS, SECONDED EY MR. SZELAFF', TO ADJOURN TXE MEETING. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL iPOTING RYE� CHAZRPERSON SABA DECLARED THE NOV. 27, 1984, ENERGY COMMISSZON MEETING AA70URVED AT 9:48 P.M. Respectfully submitted, ;�X.i� Lynn Sa a Recording Secretary ENERGY COPIMISSION h1EETING, NOVEMBER 27, 1984 PAGE 5 1, sidewalls 2, attic 3, crawlspace 4, foundation Mr. Groody stated these are the onty things they have found that are cost effective. If a person wants his/her house to be an average house at an average insulation level and be a good house, then they take care of these things. At the bottom of the priority sheet, that house is rated so the people know where their house is as far as insulation, Mr. Groody stated that as far as other cities, Hastings and Red Wfng are moving along in setting up programs. Nastings had the Energy Office come out and organize a Neighborhood Energy Workshop. Minnegasco approved this and paid for it. The workshop worked well. Now Hastings is deciding what they want to do next. 6o they want to hire their own enerqy coordinaLor, maybe they want to have Minneapolis come in and organize the city for them and do several workshops, and whether or not they want to offer Operation Insulation at the same time. Mr. Groody stated that if Fridley was interested in setting up a program, Operation Insulation was very staff intensive. Good competent technical people are needed, so it took a lot of money to start a program. But, there �tere a lot of different options the City could pursue. There has been legis- iation passed that says utility companies have to spend a significant amount of money in this area. The Energy Office has a good relationshop with Minne- gasco. Minneapolis has so much available and is open to help other cities. The State also has staff who can assist a City. Mr. Groody stated he Nrould suggest that if the Commission was interested in seeing a program set up in fridley, they first•cal7 Sheldon Strom, Director of the Energy Office, who could give them some specific information. They could contact the State, They could also talk to Minnegasco. Another good idea would be to contact Susan Moore of the Dept. of Energy &`�onomic Development. Mr. Robinson asked what kind of staff levels would be needed for Operation Insulation Mr. Groody stated that with their Operation Insulation, they plan on serving 2,OOQ households in the coming year. They have three consultants,two office people (who answer phones, schedule consultations, assign contracts}, a person who manages the infra-reds and deals with Self Reliance Center, the group that does the infra-reds, a person who manages the contractors and does on-site visits, and himself. They also have an engineer and people who don't work close]y with the program. They have three senior aides who work for free, and lastly, they have two people who organize the Operation Insulation programs, Mr. Saba stated he felt the Comnission had an interest in seeing a program like this started in Fridley, but they would need a lot of help. 7hey are all interested in energy conservation, and it would be nice to see this going in Fridley, ENER6Y LOMMISSI6N MEETING, NOVEh1BER 27, 1984 PAGE 4 Mr. Groody stated that Operation Insulation is an attempt to focus in on why people would do the work and reduce all the hastles which prevent people from doing it. Operation Insulation provides objective information, an energy audit (done by Minneapolis by someone who works for the City of Minneapolis or by someone from the Self Reliance Center which is a non-profit neighborhood group). The auditors are specially trained to point oui and prioritize difierent items. They now have 15 city certified contractors who have agreed to do major work for fixed reduced prices. More important than the reduced prices is the work is guaranteed by the Energy Office. Lastly, they have the Energy Bank low interest toans with no income requirements. Mr. Groody stated the Operation Insulation process ia a four-step process: 1. Audits 2. Consultations. A city staff person actually �•rrites up a contract saying exactly how much a job costs. The homeowner signs the contract. If they are going to get the work done, they fill out the loan application, sign it, and they are on the way to gettin9 the work done. There is also a direct audit, where if people are positive they want to get the work done, they can skip the consulta- tion st�p and j�st go with a direct audit. That auditor is specially trained to write up a contract also. 3. After the consultation, a11 the paperwork comes back to the Energy 9ffice, and many things happen. The contracts have to be written in a very careful way, reviewed and assigned to the different contractors. There are strict fixed standards for the contractors. The contractor has to approve the job for a given price. Once the job is approved, they have to submit the loan application to Minne- gasco. Once the l�an is approved, the contractor contacts the home- owner and a start date is set up and work is completed. They have an on-site inspector who is avaitable at all times with a beeper to go out if there are any pro6lems. 4. After that there is a post-insulation inspection. If the work is not done to the standards, the contractor has to come back free of charge. Once a job passes inspection, the homeowner receives a certification of completion, Mr. Groody stated that one thing they found out with the audits was there were numerous things that a person could have done in his/her home with paybacks and priorities. They found it was too much and too overwhelming for people, and people generally did not get anything done. Also, auditors who are technical people are usually not very good at motivating people. So, the Energy �ffice was in the process of changing their audit completely and maybe eliminating a lot of these things and they are looking at 5-6 things. They have also come up with what they call a Priarity Sheet. Wfien they talk about the audit at the Operations Insulation meeting, they say the most important part of the audit is not the piece of paper with 20 different items, but it is the priority sheet that identifies 1-2 different items. The comnon problems that are addressed through Operation Insulation are: ENERGY COMMISSION MEETIWG, NOVEMBER 27, 1984 PAGE 3 volunteers, in Minneapolis they have the alderman mait out a ietter to every- one in the neighborhood asking them if they wouTd like to learn more about the program and possibTy serve as a volunteer. They usually find a volunteer for aTmost every block. For those blocks that are left, a staff person goes out and knocks on doors ta find volunteers. Once they have serious volunteers, they have those volunteers come to an "inviter training". At the inviter training, they spend about one hour explaining what happens at the workshop, talking about self-interest, identifying what their self-interests are, and iden- tify{ng the costs. At the meeting, they give the volunteers tips on how to door-knock and give them brochures to pass out, Mr. Groody stated the volunteers who are now trained go out and knock on their neighbors' doors and get their neighbors to come to a Neighborhood Energy Workshop. They do not require the block inviters to have 50% at the first meeting. They have an evening meeting and a Saturday workshop--a two3tep process. After the Saturday workshop comes Operation Insulation. Mr. Groody stated at the workshop program evening meeting, they cover applicance efficiency and energy use habits. They start low cost weatherization on the Saturday. Operation Insulation has really only been moving in full swing for the last eight months. Mr, Groody stated that with appliance efficiency, they talk about two things: (1) When buying new apptiances, you want to buy the most energy efficient models; (2) maintenance. At the meeting, they give the people tfiree things to work on regarding energy use habits: (1) turning down hot water heater; (2) turning down thermostat at night oi• during day; (3) openfng/clos�ng drapes. Mr. Groody stated that law cost weatherization was one thing that made the Neighborhood Energy Workshop program very special. They teach people at the workshop that there is a brand new idea called the House Doctor approach. The House Doctor approach is based on a Princeton University study, U!hat they found was the average house in Minnesota has over 100 hidden holes where heat escapes from the house, At the workshop, they show people where these heat loss spots are; then provide them with $40-50 worth of free weatherization materials to plug up those 7eaks. The main thing about the House Doctor approach is that no one, urtless they are really interested, has plugged up a11 these hidden leaks. Also, it is very cost effective, usually with a year payback, to make these different improvements. One reason it is so important is that even if there is 5 ft, of insulatian in the attic, if there are hidden heat leaks under that insulation, the heat "bypasses" the insulation. Mr. Groody stated that after the Saturday workshop, they give peop7e a survey form to fi1T out at home af where their hidden leaks are and what kinds of materiaTs they need. Mr. Groody stated that they had assumed that after a workshop, people would go ahead and get the necessary work done. They found people do not act like that and they decided to create a separate program calted Operation Insulation to get as many houses as possible insulated over the next three years. They made a list of all the things that prevent people from getting the work done and all the reasons why people would get the work done. ENERGY COMMISSION MEETIN6, NOYEMBER 27, 1984 PAGE 2 Mr. 6roody stated they had smatl workshops that averaged in size of 4Q-50 people. The first year they served about 1,000 people. The program began to be so successful, especia7ly in terms of turn-out, that they went to the Public Utility Camnission, dealt with Minnegasco, and eventually their fund- ing switched from the HUD grant to having a utility campany pay for everything. Now their office is comptetely funded by Minnegasco. Mr. 6roody stated he was sure the Commission was famiTiar with the RCS audit program. Tt was costing Minnegasco about $125 to provide an audit. Nis office told Minnegasco they would provide an audit for $25, so they got people to a workshop, gave them $50 worth of materiats and an audit, costing about $SO total which was a lot cheaper than it was for Minnegasco to just provide an audit. So, it was a combination of working with the utility company, as well as the Public Utility Co�ron4ssion, that brought about the Neighborhood Energy Workshop program. Mr. Groody stated the workshops are almost done in the City of Minneapolis. Last year and a couple of years before that, they served between 8,Q00-10,000 people per year with 100-200 people at a workshop. Mr. Groody stated that at the same time, they developed some other programs. They are just starting a program for apartment buildings. They have not dane much in the cort�nercial area. Operation Insulation was a new program he would address later in the meetin9. Mr. Groody stated that in Minneapolis, they feel that in order for an energy program to be successful, the following three elements must be met: �1) hi parttcipation; (2j state-of-the-art technology; (3} action, not just educa Mr. Groody stated the first thing with the Neighborhood Energy Workshop T is the process and how they get people to the workshops. The way they c people to the workshops with a relatively high turnout and relativety 7 is through good volunteers. They do not let bad volunteers get into t They setect their volunteers and train them vrell. They find a voiunY each btock, train the votunteers on how to get their neighbors to co workshop� and tfie voiunteers knock on doors and invite their neighb workshop. A 50% tevel of participation is required; otherwise, th have a workshop. Mr. Groody stated the "theory of self-interest" is what they usr work with volunteers. Basically, people do things because they something out of it, and that what they get out of it outweigh Really understanding how to work with volunteers, laying out and making sure the volunteers have the se1f-interest are al' Mr. Groody stated that in Minneapalis, they work on a neig� neighborhood basis. Almost the entire city has been cover hood Ener9Y Workshop program, Once they choose a neighbe up into individual b7ocks. Once they have the area mapp thing they do is networking--finding churches, neighbor' zation, ta get leads of possibie votunteers in this ar� afi �c� r�.� .� �UI J FEE $ 4�d�sl�s ZOpTE,'4 � U�G �x�, rN �'°a ��a cxAT�� yoxc� o '�5' L T MS °�' � ° . Ap �Ut Wh b�'T r ��z �o l`��R�yMFNT.e" thpsc°tP nde c �a�:�`�'' � '� w° �ils Io� U � � ��' ",��,r ,��, s�,c � ipP�t�U)r lNC �'�p�Aj. p� a ,]� �' S�b �v�.d �r� 'R��G ✓hf r.� '�T . 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They looked at ,:y focused on was residentiai � °� � �'.ve 1��'�,po�'s �o ��, � °a,� �, �'�°r� „echnical information available, h �PC�OQ��d�� .�y�,�lz'�U��y�°�.�-o�o�°�C�,� ideanoftthetneighbo h1ar�d energy v. ... > �; c CpGC� �'��L�� '�',�s�_ � �,s��,�'�`�y ��,�'��, .c, They received the mo ?s and � � ,s��,��,o� o��hP C s�, �� ,poss��.. �� ya Energy Workshop Program. \ .,3, d�C,�� o • ��y �j ,� A��O �y2s�,�- �oP' "�c��, 'p�,�$v d�Jd t`' �,t' L, `�'�a . s ?�,�,t,G,�'%' 9P~ S �T�'p �.�,'G' b�r;�',f� p�7n• y��- 7 `�� c'� CN , a�.� �o �9��C G x�7 `�`dQ� a A�,Ars �OT / APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 27, 1984 PAGE 4 they do have to think about the impact this could have on the City in terms of the future and how many otf�er people wfll decide they need to have a garage this size. There are many people who have recreational vehicles, and many people have to rent garages for storage. As Mr. Barna had mentioned, the City does give special use permits to put second accessory buildings in the back yard, sometimes quite regular7y, and many times those extra buildings are for storage of extra vehicles. Ms. Gabe] stated she had some current concerns about the size of this parti- cular building and in terms of the fact that they have not done this before. Mr. Barna stated he could understand what Mr. Clanton wanted to do, but he could also see where it would be better to have a second accessory building than to have an attached garage that was bigger than the house. Ms. Gabel stated the other thing the Appeals Commission is charged with is the hardship, and she felt the hardship was not really well defined. The only hardship wds something the uwner has imposed upon himself by the purchase of all these vehicles, It was not something that was natural to the lay of the land or anything like that. So, it was difficult to establish a real valid hardship. Mr. Clanton stated the problem with another 6uilding in back was that the people behind him have very exclusive fiomes. They would much rather see a larger garage than a second building closer to them. Mr. Clark suggested that if the petitioner reduced the width of the garage from 36 ft. to 32 ft, that would reduce the height of the garage from 23 ft. to 21 ft., making it the same height as the house. The square footage would then be reduced to 1,280 from 1,440. It would eliminate one variance and would reduce one variance. Mr. Clanton stated he would probably be agreea4le to these changes. MOTIDN BY MS. GEROU, SECONDED BY MR. BAP.NR, TO C7ASE THE pUBLZC HEARING. UPON R VOZCE YOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 8:Z0 P,M, Mr, Plemel stated it seemed to him they were again getti•ng into the busi�ess of trying to redesign this man's garage, and it might not be something he wants to do. With a lot three times larger than most normal lots and three times the set6ack of most other lots, this would not be an eyesore from the street. Also, because there was no neighborhood opposition, he would be in favor of granting the variances as stated.. Mr. Barna stated because of the fact that there is a large setback from East River Road and the fact that it is on a curve and is heavily wooded on the north lot line, people driving from both directions would have a hard time seeing the house and garage. The people most affected by this proposal would APPEALS COMMISSION MEETIN6, NOVEMBER 27, 1984 PAGE 3 Mr. Barna asked Mr. Clanton if there was any reason why he had not considered using his present garage for the cars he drives and putting his motorhome and other vehicles in a second garage in back, Mr. Clanton stated he had not realized he could have two garages. Mr. Barna stated a second garage or second accessory building was a]lowed with a special use permit. Ms. Gerou asked if a hardship had been established. Mr. Clanton stated the real reason why he needs this garage is that he works for NSP and is out of town quite a lot. He would like to store his motorhome and other vehicles inside the garage so that they are secure from vandalism and weather. Also, he thoyght that by getting these things inside and out of the yard, it would help make the neighborhood look 6etter, Ms. Gerou stated that most people do not have places to store extra vehicles. A big problem in a lot of neighborhoods is t�at people go out and buy mutur- homes, campers, boats, etc „ before deciding where they are going to store these things. That is why there is so much visual pollution in some neighborhoods. 14r. Barna stated there are 2-3 car colTectors in the City who have wanted to store thetr antique cars under one roof. They have had to put up second accessory buildings with special use permits. He stated getting a special use permit can be a long process, too, but he had a hard time defining a hardship in this case of needing an attached garage when there was avaiTable space for a second accessory buildfng that could be tota7ly hidden behind the existing garage and house. By building a second accessory building, it wou7d e7iminate two of the three variances. Mr. Gary Obrycki stated he was the carpenter contractor for Mr. Clanton. He stated when he went to the neighbors to get their signatures that they were not opposed to this proposal, he had also totd the neighbors about the poss�- bility of a second accessory garage on the back side, The neighbors on that side said they would rather see one full attached garage than another unattached garage c7oser to them. He stated he used to be Mr. Clanton's neighbor, so he knew all the other neighbors. Ms. Gerou stated t�at by approving these variances, they wou7d be setting a precedent, and then everyone could come in wanting to build a warehouse-type building on their property. 5he stated this is a metropolitan area, not a rurai area where you were more likely to see a building like this. Mr, Clanton stated that as Mr. Clark had mentioned earlier, his lot is a very large lot. Ms. Gabel stated that was true, and the lot may very well ho7d #he building. What bothered her was that they have never done this kind of thing before. T�e Appeals Commission has a responsibility to the community as a whole, and APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 27, 1484 PAGE 2 Public purpose served 6y this requirement is �o eliminate the condition of overcrowding of residential sites. Section 205.07.16.3 stated the maximum height for all accessory build- ings shall not exceed fourteen (14) feet above grade. Public purpose served by this requirement is to limit the height of structures adjacent to lot lines. Section Z05.07.T6.4a states a private garage shall not exceed 100% of the first floor area of the dwelling unit or a maximum of 1,000 square feet. Public purpose served by this requirement is to limit the size of accessory structures to prevent altering the residential character of a building site by insuring that the garage is the accessory structure on the lot. 6. STATED NARDSHIP: "One of the City of Fridley's codes ]imits the garage size of a personal dwelling to 1,000 square feet. I am seeking a variance to this code so I can store my many vehicles, I feel this would improve the looks of my yard as I currentTy must Teave the vehicles exposed on my property, In order to house all the vehicles, I will need a garage with 1,440 square feet." C. ADMINISTRATIVE STAEF REVIEW: This garage would be quite large and quite high because the petitioner wants to be able to store his motor home in it. The lot is large also. The Board should determine the real need and hardship before acting on this request, The staff have no stipulations to suggest except to enforce the hard surface driveway requirement. Mr. Clark showed the Commissioners a copy of an aerial photu of the property with the proposed garage marked in red. He stated the lot was one of the larger lots in Fridley at 29,760 sq. ft. so the lot coverage, if the variances were granted, would be only 12.4% when the a7lowable is 25%, He stated he had asked the petitioner to bring in elevations of how the garage would look frrom the front and also a floor plan of how he planned to utilize the floor space. Mr. Clark stated that included in the agenda was a letter of recognition singed by Mr. Clanton's neighbors. MOTION BY MR. BARNA, SECONDED BY MS. GEROU, TO RECEIVE THE LETTER OF RECOGNITION. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRPERSON GRBEL DECLARED THE MOTZON CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY. Mr. Clark stated this would be one of the largest garages on private property, in Fridley. To his knowledge, they have no precedent to look back on of any other garages this large. The one thing in Mr. Clanton's favor was the large 1ot and the large setback from East Ri��er Road. CITY OF FRIDLEY APPEALS COMMISSION MEETIN6, NOVEMBER 27, 1984 CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson 6abe1 called the November 27, 1984, Appeals Commtssion meeting to order at 7:34 p.m. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Pat Gabel, Alex Barna, Jean Gerou, Jim Plemel Members Absent: Donald Betzold Others Present: Darrel Clark, City of Fridley Larry Clanton, 7210 East River Road Richard 4ennox, 16120 Potowatomi St., Anoka 6ary Obrycki, 6Z67 Kerry Lane N.E. APPROVAL OF f�OVEMBER 13, 1984, APPEALS COMMISSIO�d MINUTES: MOTION BY MS. GEROU� SECONDED BY MR. BARNA, TO APPROVE TXE NOV. S3� 1984, APPEALS C011MISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRZED ANAI+IMDUSLY. 1. REQUEST FOR VARIA�dCES PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 205 OF THE fRIDLEY CITY CODE, TO / / � IIIL JN'IL VLl1�V � ) � �� f uest y arry anton, as iver oa .., ri ey, n. 32) MOTION BY MS. GEROU� SECONDED BY MR. PLEMEL, TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEAP.ING. UPON A VDICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED TXE PUBLZC HEARZNG OPEN AT 7:35 P.M. Chairperson Gabel read the following Administrative Staff Report: ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT 7210 East River Road N.E. A. PUBLIC PURFOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENT: Section 205.07.1B.1 limits the total floor area of all accessory buildings to a maximum of 1400 square feet. ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, NOVII�ER 20 1984 PAGE 2 UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, MR. WELLAN DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMpUSLY. 2. OTiIER BUSINESS: A. CURBSIDE RECYCLING PLAN Mr. Robinson stated that both 3oann Nelson and Connie Metcalf presented their ideas to the City Council on October 29. At this time staff is , looking at the issue further, in hope of tailoring the best possible plan for Fridley. Mr. Wellan asked if there was enough city staff to facilitate the pro- gram. Mr. Robinson stated that there should he if the city's main concern would just be p�blicity. He also stated that he would have something more concrete at the next meeting. Mr. Robinson mentioned the use of containers as an incentive to recycle. He stated that he would check with other communities that have used them and see how they feel they are working. B. The commission decided to work on a promotiaa plan for recycling program at their January meeting. C. The commission would like the workplans braught back for review. D. The committee decided [o cancel their December 18 meeting. ADJOURNMENf : The meeting adjourned informally at 8:55 p.m., Respectfully submitted, � ��+6� -�-� Denise Bosch Recording Secretary PARKS & RECREATION C�MMISSIQN MEETING, NOVEMBER 20, 1984 PAGE 5 b. Naming of Park - Rice Creek School Dr, Boudreau stated the Commission had the opportunity of naming the new park near the old Rice Creek School location. He stated he believed the road tfiat ran by the park was Creekridge Road. MOTZON BY MR. YOUNG TO NAME THE NEW PARK� CRE£KRIDGE PARK. M02'ION DZED FOR LACK OF A SECOND. MOTION BY MR. ALLEN� SECONDED BY .�92. YOUNG, TO CONTINUE THE NAMING OF TNE PARY UNTIL TXE NEXT MEETING IN ORDER TO GIVE TNE COMMZSSIDNERS MORE TIME TO THIN'K ABOUT A NAME. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAZRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED TNE MOTZON CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 3. OLD BUSINESS: a. Softball Tournament Refund -"Dare to Care" Dr, Boudreau stated that the "Dare to Care" organization did not hold the tournament as scheduled Tast surrmier. He stated the City still had their check for �600 which has been deposited, He s:ated the policy says the City should keep the $600; however, the Commission had agreed to only charge Tony Wajda of Joe's Place Pizza $250 or 1/4 of the fee when he cancelled his tournament, Maybe the Commission miyht want to consider something similar for the "Dare to Care" organization. Dr. Boudreau stated the "Dare to Care" organization cancelled their tournament 5 days early. They have been very honest and have not asked for any refund of the $600 deposit. The money was deposited on June 26th. Dr, Boudreau stated the City's policy states: "If the tournament sponsor withdraws its application or the tournament is cancelled two weeks or more prior to the day of the tournament, the park faciTity will be refundable minus $100 plus administrative cost by the City." Dr. Boudreau stated he would suggest they refund the "Dare to Care" organization all but 1/4 of the $600, which was �150. Mr. Young stated he would like to be able to refund the total $600, but it would be setting a precedent. Mr, Kondrick and Ms. Schreiner stated they thought the City should keep some of the money and 1/4 of the total amount seemed reasonable. MOTION BY MS. SCHREZNER� SECONDED BY MR. ALLEN, TO RECOMMEND THAT THE CZTY KEEP $150 OF THE $600 PARK FACILITY FEE AND TNAT $450 BE REF7JNDED TO THE ^DARE TO CARE" ORGANIZATION. HUMAN RESOURCES COhP1ISSI0N MEETING, DECEMBER 6, 1984 PA6E 5 UPGLV A VOSCE VOTE, RLL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON MINTON DECLARED THE MOTZON CARRZED UNANIHOUSLY. ADJOURNMENT: MOTION BY MR. TREUENFEIS� SECONDED BY MS. KOCXER� TO ADJDURN THE MEETING. UPON A t�OICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE, CHAIRPERSOIJ MINTCW DECLARED THE DEC. 6, 1984, HUFfAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING AA70URNED AT 9:05 P.M. Res ectfully submi ed, � yn a a Recording Secretary `�. � CITY Of FRIDLEY APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, DECG�IBER 11, 1984 CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson 6abe1 called the December 11, 1984, Appeals Comnission meeting to order at 7:32 p.m. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Pat Gabel, Alex Barna, Jim Plemel, Donald Betzold, Jean Gerou Menbers Absent: None Ottiers Present: Darrel Clark, City of Fridley James A. Trapp, 8018 Sunnyside, Mpls. Glenn W. Mischke, 2180 Inca Lane, New Brighton Robert Parta, 403 Jackson, Anoka Bill Haub, 1200 Pillsbury Center, Mpls. Bill Walter, 4802 Nicollet Ave. S., Mpls. APPROVAL OF NOVEMBER 27, 1984, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: MO_TION BY DfR. BARNA� SECONDED BY MS. GEROU� TO APPROVE THE NOV. 27, I989� APPEALS CODIMZSSZON MINUTES AS WRITTEN. UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERS03J GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CRRRSED UNANZMOUSLY, �. dlOTION BY MS.GEROU� SECONDED BY MR. BARNR� TO OPEN THE PUSLIC HEARING. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE, CHRIRPEP,SON GAHEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 7;34 P.M. Chairperson Gabel read the Administrative Staff Report: APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, DECEMBER 11, 1984 PAGE 2 '~' ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT 65Q0 University Avenue N,E. A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENT: Section 205.15.3C.1 requires any permitted buildings to be no closer to any public right of way than eighty (80) feet. Public purpose served by this requirement is to provide for adequate parking and open landscaped areas as well as to avoid congestion and provide adequate site clearances in commercial areas. Section 205.15.5D.4c requires the edge of any curb opening to be no closer to the nearest portion of a street right of way intersection than seventy- five (75) feet or two-thirds of the lot width whichever is smaller, Public purpose served by this requirement is to limit congestion and traffic hazards at an intersection. Section 205.15.5D.5a requires all parking and hard surface areas to be no cioser than twenty (20) feet from any street right of way. Public purpose served by this requirement is to allow for adequate visibility and aesthetically pleasing open areas adjacent to public rights of way. Section 205,15.3A requires a minimum lot area of 35,000 square feet for a building site. Public purpose served by this requirement is to provide areas for adequate parking, open landscaped areas and to limit congestion of commercial areas. Section 205.03,53 requires a parking stall to be ten {10) feet wide by twenty (20) feet long, except where the stall abuts a curb or sidewalk where the length can be reduced to eighteen (18) feet. Public purpose served by this requirement is to provide adequate clearances between large vehicles. B. STATED HARDSHIP: "The lot has street rights of way surrounding it so there is no additional land available to bring the lot into compliance." C. ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW: This lot was platted in 1957 as part of the Holly Shopping Center. The station was constructed in 1959. In 1967 the loop back of the service drive was dedicated and constructed. A special use permit was granted to Phillips Petroleum Company in 1972. The station operation was discontinued in 1981, therefore the legal noncon- forming use and reduced setbacks lost their status. .,, , APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, DEC9'46ER 11, 1984 PAGE 3 The variances, as requested above, are all existing conditions, We have notified the petitioner that he must submit a letter from Phillip's Petroleum indicating concurrence in the petition. This must be on file prior to City action on their requests. We are presently redesigning the Mississippi/University intersection which will no doubt reflect changes in right of way widths on the west side of University. The HRA is ho7ding a public hearing on this area on December 13, 1984. For these reasons, we feel this item should be denied or continued until the HRA and traffic studies are completed. Ms. Gabel stated the Commission members had just received a copy of a letter dated IJov. 15, 1984, addressed to the City Manager from William A, Haug, Moss & Barnett, Attorney for Heartland Realty Investors, Inc., regarding the Phillip's 66 station site and Heartland's opposition to this type of use for that property, MOTION BY ltR. BARNA� SECOl7DED BY MS. GEROU� TO RECEIVE THE LET_TER DATED NOV. IS� I9B4� FROM MOSS 6 BARNETT. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CNAZRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOS70N CARRIED UNRNZMDUSLY. Ms. Gabel read the letter for the benefit of those in the audience. Ms, Gabel asked if the petitioner was aware of the HRA's plans for this area and intersection. Mr. Robert Parta, attorney representing James Trapp, stated they were aware that the HRA had some plans, but nothing specific was comnunicated to them. Mr, Clark stated the HRA was holding a public hearing on Thursday, Dec. 13. The City Engineering Dept. has been working with the County Engineering Dept, on designs for the future of the intersection at University & Mississippi, of which this property is adjacent to, so no doubt these plans w':11 affect the property in some manner. Ms. Gabel stated her concern about this was thzt this could all be extremely premature depending on what the HRA decides to do, not only in terms of traffic, but in terms of the corner in and of itself. The HRA does have the power to do as they choose with that corner. Mr. Clark stated that was why Staff suggested that this item be continued. He wanted to add that at the time of the writing of the Administrative Staff Report, the City had not received a letter from Phillip's Petroleum indicating concurrence with the petition. The City has now received that signature on the petition so it is a legal petition because the owner has signed it. Ms. Gabel asked about the deed restrictions referred to in Mr. Haug's letter dated Nov. 15, 1984. APPEALS COMMISSION MEETIN6, DECEMBER 11, 1984 PAGE 4 Mr. Clark stated that, as he understood it, the property was to only be used as a gasoline service station. Since the day it was built, it has been a gasoline station/service station. In 1972 there was a petition by Phillip's PetroTeum to change one of the service stalls to a car wash, That met with some opposition and Phillip's withdrew the request for the car wash, but the Pianning Commission and the City Council did grant a special use permit for the service station to remain as it was. The history of the property was spelled out in the staff report. Mr. Clark stated he would agree that it might be premature to make a decision on the variances at this meeting. He believed Staff's recommendation was conveyed to the petitioner, 6ut tF�e petitioner wanted this item on the Appea]s Commission agenda anyway. Mr, Parta stated he had a copy of the deed restrictions and made a copy available to the Commission. Mr. Parta stated they understood it was possible the HRA couTd acquire the property, but they have heard it could be 2-3 years. The HRA has no definite plans, It was his understanding that they were before the Appeals Commission for a determination on whether or not the variances should be granted for a piece of property. What the HRA might do is really of no relevance to this. If the HRA wants to acquire the property, they always have the right to do so. Mr. Parta stated that, legally, because one agency might be doing something or might plan to do something in the future, that has no bearing on whether this property should be granted the Variances. That was not a sufficient reason to deny the variances requested. Mr. Parta stated his client originally purchased the property thinking it was a gas station and signed a non-contingent purchase agreement for the property. His client has no "outs" and has already made a substantial downpayment as part of ihe earnest money contract. He stated when they attempted to open up the building, they discovered this could not be used as a gas station or for any purpose until it went through the various channels of the City of fridley. After trying to decide what to do and receiving pressure from Phillip's Petroleum to close the transaction, they decided they would have no alternative but to approach the City of Fridley on a formal basis and find out what position the City was going to take. Mr. Parta stated his client has been served with an ultimatum from Phillip's that the transaction must be closed by Dec. 17. Should they fail to close, they will face a lawsuit and at a minimum forfeit the b10,000 they gave Phillip's. So, they need to know what position the City of Fridley is going to take. Mr. Parta stated that, addressing the issue of the variances, this was probably the classic hardship case. This is a piece of property that is currently zoned for what tiie petitioner has requested. He believed i± was also in the Compre- hensive Plan for the City of Fridley for C-3 zoning, It was not an issue of making the property comply with C-3 ordinances; the City has already determined ; APPEALS COMMISSdON MEETTNG, DECEMBER 11, 1984 PAGE 5 it should be C-3. In 1967 the City put in a service road to relieve some of the congestion of Mississippi & University. The property owner at that time could not control whether or not the City should acquire right of way for a street. It was totally up to the City. The City determined that this parcel should remain an island for whatever reason. So, there was no way this property could be brought into compliance with the zoning the City has already established for the property through no fault of the petitioner's predecessors. Mr. Parta stated the existing building is aesthetically pleasing for the type of structure it is. It is �ell landscaped, we11 maintained, compatible with the shopping center, and was certainly equal to or better than any of the other buildings at that intersection. Mr. Parta stated that if the Appeals Commission decides to deny the variances, in essence, the City has acquired the property at this point. Ms. Gabel asked if the petitioners could give a detailed explanation of the business they anticipate going in on the property since they are talking about soMe deed restrictions. Mr. Parta stated it was his understanding that what they would like to do with the property was use it as a specialized tune-up bueiness. They would be doing tune-ups, grease jobs, oil changes, servicing cars. Mr. James Trapp stated they would prefer to not have gas pumps, but if they have to be held to the covenant, they will put the pumps back in. 7hey would pr�fer to use the property just as a service station, Ms. Gabel asked about th� hours of operation. Mr. Trapp stated the name of the business would be Sparks, a division of MAACO. They hate two other operations at this time--one at 3324 Univers'ty Ave. and one at 1704 Rice Street. The hours of operation at those two locations are 8:00 - 6:00, closed Sundays. He stated Sparks is a quality op�ration, and he would invite the comnissioners to visit the other two locations. Mr. Ralph Johnson stated he was at the meeting both as an observer and vias also with Merrill Lynch Realtors as an agent for the client, Sparks Tune-up Center, out of Pennsylvania. He stated Sparks was one of the largest nation-wide tune- up centers. They are the originators of the dynamomenter which allows them to do tune-ups on a moving vehicle withaut the vehicle ever leaving a service bay. Sparks is currently in 24 states. Mr. Johnson stated that in addition to the two locations mentioned by Mr. Trapp, there was a third Sparks location on 98th and Lyndale S. 5parks does quality work; they pride themselves with a clean, well-operated establishment. Tfiey are very specific and very expensive for franchisees. . APPEALS COMhIISSION MEETING, DECEMBER 11, 1984 PAGE 6 Mr. Bill Walter, President of Heartland Realty, ov.mer of Holly Shopping Center, stated they have worked with the City for some time on the intersection because they are also concerned about the traffic and would like to help resolve those problems. He stated they are concerned about the use of the Phillip's property. Mr. Walter stated that referring to the hardship case with Phillip's, they have talked regularly with Phillip's on these same kinds of issues, and Phillip's is very wilTing to refund any earnest money to the petitioner. Mr. Haug, Moss & Barnett, stated he was the author of the letter referred to earlier in the meeting. He stated the deed restrictions were created for the protection of the tenants in the center, so that is why when someone is asking for something other than what is restricted, they do rely on those deed restrictions. Mr. Betzold asked if Mr, Walter felt the use of the property as described by the petitioner was compatible or incompatible, Mr. Walter stated they felt it was incompatible, They would fight this as long as they had to, because they have a huge investment in the Center. He stated they would strongly oppose the variances on the grounds that the use is incompatible with the rest of the center and the tenants in the center. Being aware of the deed restrictions, the correct way to proceed would have been for the petitioner to approach them and ask them on their thoughts for the usage of that property and try to work with them, rather than working around them and the City. It would be tlieir idea to have everything done properly in a joint effort with every- one involved, Mr. Betzold stated that if the petitioner came in with a plan to use the property as a gasoline/service station which would be consistent with the covenant, would that affect Heartland Realty's position? Mr. Walter stated that, again, they are trying to work with the City to solve the traffic problems, and a service station would make it difficult to solve the traffic problems. Ms. Gabel stated the City has played a large role in this. The City has a "monster" on the corner there. It was not totally the City's fault; it was a variety of levels of government with their continuous upgrading of highways, which was definitely needed, but it has turned the area into a monster, The traffic flow that went in and out of there previously was not good, and there is even more traffic now. If something is put back on that corner, there.could really be a problem. Right now they do not know the County's plans for upgrading the intersection. She s�ated she did rtot necessarily agree with approving these variances just because something existed on that corner before, when it is not in the City's best interest to do so. Mr. Parta stated this is an existing piece of property which his client purchased and would like to complete the purchase. His client might get his money back from Phillip's, but he fias also expended a great deal of money in finding tenarrts, preparing leases, marketing, just in materials to reopen the building. � APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, DECEMBER 11, 1984 PAGE 7 Mr. Parta stated he could appreciate the "monster" concept. In looking at this from a planner's standpoint or a city administration's standpoint, in a sense, they did have a monster. Whether they continue it or not was a decision the City would have to make. However, in the process of arriving at a decisio�, he would,like to see the property utilized. If the property cannot be used, then the City should buy the property and put an end to this. MOTION BY MR. BETZOLD� SECOI'7DED BY MR, BARNA, TO CIASE THE PUBLIC HEARING. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTSNG AYE, CXAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED TXE PUBLIC HEARING CIASED AT 8:25 P.M, Mr. Barna stated this is a non-usable piece of property that is theoretically usable under different situations. Nowever, under the present situations and restrictions, he saw it as a non-usable piece of property even though there rres a building on the property and it has been used in the past. Mr. P1eme1 stated this property was used successfully for 11-12 years, He did not think the 6usiness there had caused any big problems. He would be in favor of granting the variances, based on the fact that a business operated there quite successfully for 11-12 years. The matter of selling gasoline was a legal matter the petiti�ner would have to deal with. Mr. Betzold stated he would agree with Mr. Parta's comment that the current situations that have been created were not the fault of either the present owners or the previous owners. The City and the County, and whoever else involved, did create an island of the property. If it were not for the HRA's public hearing on Thu�^sday, he would be tempted to say they had to make the best of a bad situation; but the matter is being studied. He thought the closing date could be a hardship, but it seemed that it was a problem the petitioner had brought upon himself by not checking the property out more thoroughly. Also, the City Council is not even going to act on these variances, if the Appeals Commission did take action at this meeting, until January 7, 1985, He would be in favor of tabling the item until they have more information after the HRA hearing. Ms, Gerou stated she would also prefer to have information on what the HRA is going to do before making a decision. MOTION BY MR. BETZOLD, SECONDED BY MR. BARNA, TO TABLE DISCUSSION UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING� TANUARY 15� 1985. UPON A VOICE VOTE, BETZOlD, BAI2NA, GEROU, PLEMEL VOTING AYE� GABEL VOTING NAY, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED BY R VOSE OF 4-1, ADJOURNMENT: Chairperson 6abe1 declared the December 11, 1984, Appeals Commission meeting adjourned at 8:35 p.m. Respe tfully submi ed, _1LR�✓'s b.�n-f. -�f-a� Lyn a a Recording Secretary CITY OF FRIDLEY PIANNING COMMLSSION MEETING, DECEMBER 19, 1984 �'CALL TO ORDER- Chairwoman Schnabel called the December 19, 1984 PLanning Commission meeting to order at 7;30 p. m, ROLL CALL: Members Present: Ms. Schnabei, Mr. Oquist, Mr. Kondrick, Mr. Minton, Mr. NielSen, and Ms. Gabe1 Members Absent: l�fr. Saba Others Present: Jim Robinson, Planning Coordinator John FLora, Public Works Director APPROVAL OF NOVEMBER 28, 1934 PLANNING COMMiSSION MINUTES: MOTION BX NIIt« KOI�DAiCK, SECONDED BY M[t, NffNTON, TO APPROVE THE NOVEMBER 28, 1984 PLANNING COMhffSSION NLINUTES AS WRITTEN. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY, 1. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP ik84-Z5. MAT PROPERTIES. BY JAMES TRAPP: Per Section 205.15.1, 3E, of the Fridley City Code, to allow the reopening of a service station on the South 120 feet of Lot 18, B1ock 5, Rice Cxeek Plaza South, the same being 6500 University Avenue N. E. MOTION BY MR, KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MR. NIELSEN, TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HFI�RING ON SP dk84-25, BY MAT PROPERTIES. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTII3G AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 7:32 P. M. Mr. Robinson stated the property in question is on the northwest corner of University and Mississippi which is part of the downtown redevelopment district. He stated the site in question is 14,400 square feet and is zoned C-3. The 1ot was platted in 1957 as part of the Ho11y Shopping Center and the service station constructed in 1959. Mr. Robinson stated a special use permit was gran[ed to Phillip`s Petroleum Company in 1972 and the station operation was discontinued in 1981, therefore, the 1ega1 nonconforming use s�atus including reduced setbacks was lost. Mr. Robinson stated the Appeals Commission reviewed the variance requests at their December 11, 1984 meeting. He pointed out several variances were needed invoLving the setbacks from the street right-of-way, reduction PLANNING COMMISSION MEETTNG DECEMBER 19 1984 PAGE 2 of the Lot area, parking lot setbacks, driveway setbacks and to reduce the widths of the parking stalls. Mr. Robinson stated the Appeals Commission tabled any action on the variances pending further information after the HItA met. He stated this intersection is being studied for proposed improvements and widening and it_was felt the re-establishment of this property as a service station would not be consisCent with plans for the downtown area, Mr. Robinson stated the HRA met on December 13 and reviewed a proposal for this intersection which will be further studied. Ms. Schnabel stated what is decided by the HRA and what action is taken by the Appeals Commission on the variances would probably have an.effect on the decision made regarding the special use permit. Ntr. Robinson presented a drawing of the proposed improvement at this intersection. He pointed out, with the proposed widening, there would be virtually no space left for a service station. Ms. Schnabel asked if HeartLand is interested in purchasing this property whether or not the variances or special use permit is granted. hfr, Robinson stated their intent would be to purchase the property and remove the station in order to provide additional parking and increased landscaping. Mr. Minton asked if the HRA woultl purchase the property through eminent domain. A'h. Robinson sCated 'ne believed Heartland would purchase it. I�. Minton asked about the restrictive covenant, lyh�. Robinson stated it is realLy HearCland's covenant and they have the option to exercise it. Mr, Parta, attorney representing the petitioners, Mr. Trapp and Mr. Mischke, stated the matter of the variances was tabled by the Appeals Commission, as they wished to know what action the HRS would take regarding the pro- posed plans for this intersection. He stated it was his understanding that the developmenC plan for the northwest quadrant of that particular intersection was developed by the HRA and the new ownexs of Holly Shopping Center. He stated it was de- signed in a way the owners of the shopping center wanted it, He stated it was also his understanding the entire plan was predicated on the owners of the center acquiring this property so there would not be any cost to the City. He stated he understood if the owners of HoLly Shopping Center did not acquire this propexty, ❑ew plans wouLd have to be prepared. Nh. Parta stated the xestrictive convenant presently on the property indicates it can only be used for a gas service station and other pur- poses related to a gas service station. He stated the covenant wasn't created by these particular owners of the property and there is a 1ega1 question whether that can be released by the current owr.ers. He stated it is possible, through title proceedings, the present owners could do it. PLANNTNG CONIl�IISSION MEETING DECEMBER 19 1984 PAGE 3 Mr, parta further stated if there was an objection by the peopLe who originally created that covenant, it is not certain the restriction could be released. Mr, parta stated the impression he initially had was the HI2A had a plan for the redevelopment of downtown Frid�ey and it appears it is more of a plan for the owners of the shopping center. Mr. Parta Stated the petitioners plan to use the building on this pro- perty for Sparks Tune-Up. He stated because of the covenant, it may be necessary to install a gasoline pump also. He stated his clients prefer not to do this, but if it is required, they would comply. Mx', parta stated Nh. Tr�pp and Mr. Mischke have entered into a purchase agreement with Phillips to buy the property and would then lease the property. F.� sCated they assumed there would be no problem because the buiLding originally was a service station. I�h, parta stated the City pointed out they would need a special use permit for their operation and also some variances because this pro- perty is no longer grandfathered under the ordinance. Mr. Parta stated this property is totally surrounded by a public road and has an existing building and there is no way you can do anything to make it conform to the code. He stated if it was going to be used for any purpose, variances would be required. Mr, parta stated the petitioners wanted to use this property the same as the one being used across the street. He stated both of these par- cels are identical and no variances or special use permits were required for that parcel. I�. Parta stated logic te11s him it is inconceiva6le to allow the identical use across the street and prohibit it on the other side of the street. Mr. Parta stated theq are under a good deal of pressure from Phillips to close and wi11 be doing so by the end of the year. He stated if they can't get the special use permit and variances, it wouLd seem the City would take the property. He stated cities have the right to do that, but it is not what they have here. He stated, in this situation, you have some private developers who would like to redeSign their shopping center a�o[her way with cooperation by the City. He stated he doesn't know if that is the only plan which could be used, but it suits the Ho11y Shopping Center people quite we11. Mr. Parta stated the County has no plans for this intersection, but wi11 develop them in 1985. He stated it is not known if they would require right-of-way for upgrading the intersection, however, the feeling is pYO- perty would probably be taken on the other side of University. Mr, Parta stated he understands the HRA plans call for this improvement in late 1986. He questioned what was to be done in the meantime if the item was tabled and force people to go through a court process in order to get a decision on the matter. PLANNING COMhIISSION MEETING DECEMBER 19 19&4 PAGE 4 If the property is going to be taken, Mr. Parta stated that is easy to deal with because then you know where you are at, He stated the HRA wasn�t going to acquire the property, it was HeartLand who was interested in it. Mr. Parta stated it wasn't the ]and owner that put in the street which made this parcel sma11. He stated when the City put in the road around the property to the north and west, the driveways were designed so they wouldn't cause a traffic problem. Mr, parta stated he understands the Planning Commission may have a pro- cedural problem to act on this special use permit when action hasn't been taken on the variance request, He feLt if the Commission made a re- commendation for issuance of the special use permit, it could be contin- gent on approval of the variances. I�h. Parta stated he didn't believe tabliag this special use permit would resolve anything because even if the HRtI took action on the plans for the intersection, it could be several years before anything took place. He felt the property couldn't sit idle for this period of time. Ms. Gabel asked Mr. F1ora abouC the County plans for this improvement. hK. F1ora stated this spring a consultant looked at this intersection as far as the traffic, and additional lanes were recommended. He stated a proposal has been submitted to the County with a request for them to initiate this improvement in their 1985 plans. He sta*_ed this would require taking some of the property associated with the Ho11y Shopping Center and service station on the corner. He stated the County wouLd have to finaLize the plans with the Minnesota Department of Transportation and there may be some re-arranging of right-of-ways. Ms. Schnabel asked Mr. Parta if it is his clients intent to proceed with purchasing this property regardless of what actions wouLd be taken by the Commissions. Mr. Parta stated they have no choice as things may or may not happen. He stated they have an excellent Lease and tenant and this is an ideal site for the use proposed. Mr. Trapp stated they wouLd be leasing this property to Sparks and they have two other operations at this time in the metropolitan area. He stated they prefer not to put in a gas pump, but would do so in order to comply with the covenant. Ms. Schnabel stated the difference with this property and the property to which Mr. Parta referred to across the street is that the HRA owns the parcel where Dr. Ryan's is located so it is under their control. Mr. Parta stated decisions have to be made whether or not nhis property is to be acquired and, in the meantime, it should be used. He stated the property could be taken within 90 days and, in a sense, they are looking for a temporary use aLso. PLANNING COh4IISSI0N MEETING DECEMBER 19 1984 PAGE 5 Mr, Parta stated when you have a request for a special use permit what you want to take into consideration is if it would be detrimental to surrounding property values and if it would cause any traffic congestion. Ms, Gabel stated she felt it wouid be detrimental to grant a special use permit for this property because of the traffic problems in this area, Mr. Oquist stated he didn�t feel a tune-up business would generate a Large volume of traffic. Mr. Kondrick stated he felt the gas station went out of business at this Location because of the difficulty to access in and out of the station. P�. Robinson stated the traffic problem is really two-fo1d. It is close to the loop-back and if the gas station remains, there wouldn't be sufficient space to widen the intersection. He stated this was not consistent m��tiar pians for the downtown area, Ms. Schnabel asked if it is known when the HRA would be finalizing a plan. Mr. Robinson stated he believed this would be taken up at the next meeting of the HI2A. Ms. SChnabel stated if the special use permit and variances were granted and then the HI2A decides to acquire the property, she was not sure what would happen to the business at that point. Mr. Parta stated there are uniform relocation benefits. He stated the crucial issue would be if they would take all or part of the property. He stated, in this case, no one knows what is likely to happen. Ms. Schnabel stated in normal circumstances, you wouldn't a11ow the busi- ness to continue. Mr. Parta stated that is a decision the City would have to make. Mr. Minton asked the length of the lease agreement with Che proposed ten- ants for this property. Mr. Trapp stated it was for five years with a five year option. He stated the lease also addresses the condemnation issue in the event this would occur. Mr. Minton stated if a business moves in with a five year lease and dev- eLops a clientele and then the property is acquired, would it mean the City would have to pay a Lot more because of the value of the business at this Location. Mr. Robinson stated that is generally the case from what he understands. Ms, Gabe1 stated a statement was made that the petitioners down-payment c,,as completely refundable and asked why this wasn't their choice. Mr. Trapp stated his tenants like the site and would really like to locate on this parcel. He stated they offered other alternatives, but they wanted this site. PLANNING COI�ffSSION MEETING DECEMBER 19 1984 PAGE 6 2. Mr. Flora stated with the opening of Target's office building and [he medical center`s plans to expand their space, there wi11 be a substantial increase in traffic at this inCersection. He stated it wi11 affect the safety going into the shopping center at this service drive. Ms, Gabe1 stated since OLd Country Buffet opened in Holly Ceneer, there is constant and consistent traffic and she couldn't imagine doing anything that would add to the burden of the traf£ic problem. M(7TION BY MR, KQNDRIGK, SECONDED BY NLS. CABEL, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON SP �k84-25, MAT PROPERTIES, BY JAMES TRAPP. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 8:43 P. M. I�. Oquist stated he was not concerned a6out the traffic as he f�It this type of business wouLdn't generate a lot of traffic. He stated he was not sure of t:�is type of business on this site since they are working to upgrade the downtown area. Mr, Kondrick stated he would agree this wouLd not be the type of business he woud,d like to see on this corner. He stated, however, he didn't feel the traffic would be a problem. Ms. Gabel stated she does feel there is a traffic problem and a service station would add to the problem. She stated she was also concerned as she felt Lhis was not the type of business they wanted for the down- town area, Mr. MinLOn s*_ated, considering the planning and use of the downtown area, this would be inconsistent. He didn�t feel the traffic would be a problem. Mf3TI0N BY MR, OQUIST, SECONDED BY MR, KONDRICK, TO DENf SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP �k84-25, M9T PROPERTIES, BY JANES TRAPP, PER SECTION 205.15.1, 3E, OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE, TO ALLOW THE REOPENING OF A SERVICE STATION ON THE SOUTH 120 FEET OF LOT 18, BLOCK 5, RICE CREEK PLAZA SOUTH, THE SAME BEING 6500 UNIVERSITY aVENUE N, E, UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANII�USLY. RICK MARTENS): Sp1it off the Northerly 35 feet of Lot 4, BLock 1, Paco Industrial Park, and add it to Lot 3, and Lot 2, except the Northerly 50 feet, the additional land to be used for parking for 7200 University Avenue N. E. Mr. Robinson stated this lot split involves a piece of land in the Paco Industrial Park on the west side of University, north of the Community Park. He stated the proposal is to spLit off approximately 35 x 269 feet of Lot 4 and add it to Lot 3 and part of LoY 2, fo be used for additional PL�INNZNG COMMISSION MEETING. DECEMBER 19, 1984 PAGE 7 parking for a 30,000 square foot Nautilus Fitness Center. Mr. Rob- inson stated the Land is needed to satisfy the parking requirements. Mr. Robinson stated it is recommended a park fee of $221.38 be paid; the Lot split to be registered with the County; and the xemainder of tlr�t 4 ba combined with Lot 5 to Create a buildable lot. Ns, Rick Marte�s, owner of the property, stated they have a Letter of agreement and are finaLizing plans with Nautilus Swim and Fitness to be Located on this site. He stated they are a company out of Colorado Springs and based on the research he has done, he felt they were a very we11-organized and we11-managed company. He stated the company is aware of the licensing requirements and that they have to provide a letter of credit and surety bonds. Mr. Martens submitted a proposed drawing for this building which would be two stories. He stated on the first floor would be a 1ap swimming poo1, whirlpool, saunas, offices and a day care facility. He stated the second floor would contain a runnang track, aerobic workout area and a11 the nautilus equipment, Ms. Schnabel asked Mr. Martens if he was in favor of combining Lot 4 with Lot 5. He stated he would prefer not to do it, but would agree to the stipulation. MOTION BY MR, KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MR, OQUIST, TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A REQUEST FOR A LOT SPLIT, L. S. �k84-12, BY WINFIELD DEVELOPERS, INC. (RICK MARTENS) TO SPLIT OFF THE NORTHERLY 35 FEET OF LOT 4, BLOCK 1, PACO INllUSTRTHL PARK, AND ADD IT TO LOT 3, AND LOT 2, EXCEPT THE NORTHF1tLY 50 FEET, THE ADDITIONAL LAND TO BE USED FOR PARKING FOR 7200 UNIVERSITY AVENUE N. E„ WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS: 1. YAYMETIT OF PARK FEE OF $221.38. 2. REGISTER LOT SPLIT WITH THE COUNTY, UPON APPROVAL OR PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERNffT. 3. TftE REPL4INDER OE LOT k BE COMBIVED WITH LOT 5 TO CFtEATE A BUILDABLE SITE. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CtU1IRWOMAN SCHNABEL DEC7ARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSlY. 3. LOT SPLIT REQUEST: L. S. 4�84-13, RANDY ANDERSON: Split off the South- erly 36 feet of Lot 5, Block 5, Melody Manor, to make M zero lot line between each side of a double bungalow, the same being 7396-7398 Sympho�y Street N. E. � Mr. Robinson seated this 1ot split is for property at 7396-7398 Symphony Street for a 0 lot line which is allowed in this particular zone (R'2). He stated it is proposed to split this double bungalow in order to a11ow each side to be sold separately. Mr. Robinson stated it is recommended a park fee of $750 be paid; the lot split to be registered with the County; and a declaration of coven- ants be submitted to the City and recorded with the County. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING DECEMBER 19 1984 PAGE 8 Mr, Kondrick asked if any correspondence has been received from per- sons who were notified of this lot spLit, Mr. Robinso❑ stated he has not received any comments either in favor or against the lot split. Mr, Anderson, the petitioner, stated he would have the declaration of covenants drawn up by an attorney. MOTION BY MR, KONI3RICK, SECONDED BY I�H2. MINTON, TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF LOT SPLIT REQUEST, L. S, �k84-13, BY RANDY ANDERSON TO SPLIT OFF THE S OUTHERLY 36 FEET OF LOT 5, BLOCK 5, MELODY MANOR, TO MAKE � FEET LOT LINE BETWEEN EACH SIDE OF A DOUBLE BUNCf1L041, THE SAME BEING 7396-7398 SYMPHONY STREET N. E„ WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS: 1. PAYMENT OF PARK FEE OF $750. 2. REGISTER LOT SPLIT WITH THE COUNTY, 3. RECORD WITH THE COUNTY AND SUBMIT TO THE CITY, A DECLARATION OF COVENANTS FOR THE PROPERTIES. UPON A VOICE VOTr^,, ALL VOTING AYE, CHA IItWOMAN SCHNABEL DECIARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANII�USLY, 4. CONTINUED: DISCUSSION OF AN ORDINANCE RECODIFYING THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE BY ADOPTING A NEW CHAPTER 216 ENTITLED "STORM WATER DRAINAGE UTILITY": Mr. Flora, public Works Director, stated in 1982, the State Legislature passed a statute requiring surface water management of a11 land in the metropoLitan area. He stated the legislation formulated the Six Cities Watershed Management Organization which, together with the Rice Creek Watershed District, encompasses surface water a�anagement for a11 of the City. Mr. Flora stated the intent of this Legislation is to manage the sur- face water quality and quantity of runoff. He stated recent develop- ments in the City have been required to establish surface water detention ponds and filEration systems and many of these ponds are or have become the City�s responsibility to maintain and operate. Mr, F1ora stated the City's storm water system is not complete, but that which is in place is at Least 20 years o1d and the required mainCenance of this system wi11 increase over the years. He sCated the greatest re- turn on the City's investment in the system would be through preventive maintenance by inspection, cleaning, patching, repairing and sma11 scale construction to keep the facilities operating at an acceptable 1eve1. Mr. Oquist asked the cost per year for maintenance of the storm water system. Mr, Flora stated it is estimated the cost is between $170,OQQ to $200,000. hh. Flora stated staff is suggesting the establishment of a storm water fund to handle expenditures connected with this system similar to the Utility Fund for the water system. He stated fees would be charged to categories of land use based upon the intensity of storm water runoff, with each contributing a fair share. PLHNNTNG COMhffSSION MEETING ➢ECEMBER 14 1984 PAGE 9 Mr. Flora stated an analysis was made of the land uses to come up with a residential equivalent factor on which the charges would be based. He seated, basically, for residential properties the fee would be $1 J 5 per quarter or $7,00 per year. Ms. Schnabel asked where the funds were coming from now to maintain the storm water system. Mr. F1ora stated these come fiom the General F�;ind . Ms, Schnabel questioned what would be different if monies from the General Fund were not used. Mr. Flora stated with a separate sCOrm water system fund, it would provide the means to maintain the system without competing with other programs or projects funded from the General Fund. Mr. Kondrick asked Mr. Flora how much money he feLt would be generated by establishing this fee for the storm water system. Mr. FLora stated it is estimated about $150,000 would be collected. Nrc. Kondrick stated in the final analysis, it would be a tax. Mr. Flora stated the only way to generate money is through a fea or tax. He stated they have tried to make this fee equitable and Yhose who gener- ate more storm water wi11 pay accordingly, Ms. Schnabel questioned the life expectancy of a storm sewer. I�h. Flora stated it is about 60 to 80 years, but this doesn't r�ean money wouldn't be spent on it. He stated preventive maintenance must still be done in order to save the CiYy's original investment and, at some point, you have to Look at major reconstruction. I�. Flora stated the establishment of a storm water system fund would identify specific funds for a particuLar purpose so it can be assured the system would be maintained. Ms. Schnabel asked Mr. F1ora ahen this proposal would be implemented, Mr, FLora stated it is hoped approval could be given in January so billings wouid begin the second qcsarEer, collectible with the third quarter. Mr. Oquist stated it i.s the domino effect t_haC bothers him and possibly every department providing a service would begin charging a fee without raising taxes. l�fr. F1ora stated many cities are going in this direction and some charge for snow removal, street lighCing, etc. He stated it is hoped Fridley wouldn't find this eecessary. Mr. Kondrick felt by establishing such a fee, it takes the pressure off those responsible for spending the City's money wisely and gives them a carte bLanche. He stated the City is able to handLe this expenditure now using funds from the General Fund and didn't understand why they had to have a fee. Mr. Flora stated by having a fee, these funds are designated for a • specific purpose. He stated the City envisions the requirements for storm water management to increase substantially in the coming years. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING DECEMBER 19 1984 PAGE 10 Mr. FLora staCed it is hoped to hold the Line on taxes and attempt to maintain the City's investment in the storm water system by collecting fees from properties which are causing the problem. I�h. Flora staCed he would like input and comments from the Planning Commission for submission to the Council. He felt their concerns should be addressed so the Council is awaxe of their opinions. Mr. Minton stated while this is definite§y a means of raising additional revenue, he would raise the question if they need $150,000 more and if this is the best way to raise it. Ms. Schnabel stated her concern was the establishment of a precedent by having a separate fee for specific City maintanance problems. She felt this may open the door to other fees being charged to property owners for other City maintenance responsibilities. She questioned if it is a concept being started because everyone is afraid to raise taxes or doesn't caant to take on the responsibility. Mr. Kondrick stated he would question what happens to the $150,0�0 in the General Fund which was being used for the storm water system, if a fee is imposed. He stated he felt the fee would take the respon- sibility from those who are in charge of the City's �unds and give them a caxte bLanche. He stated he didn't know if taxes would be reduced if the fee is imposed and another consideration is the fee could also be raised. Ms, Schnabel asked Mr. Flora what were the projected repairs and main- tenance problems for the next 10 years. Mr. Flora stated open joint pipes would be repaired and there would be increased ditch and ponding maintenance. The Commission thanked Mr, F1ora for his presentation and for providing further information and input, 5. RECEIVE HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES: NOVEMBER 8. 1984: MOTION $Y MR, OQUIST, SECONDED BY MEt, RONDRICK, TO RECE NE THE NOVEM- BER 8, 1984 HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY NffNUTES, UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CIiAIRWOMAI3 SCHNABET, DECLIRED THE MOTION CARRIED UNP.NIMOUSLY. 6. RECEIVE PE'.RIC & RECREATION COMNffSSION MINUTES: NOVEMBER 20 1984: MOTION BX MR. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MR, NIELSEN, TO RECEIVE THE NOVEM- BER 20, 1984 PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION NIINUTES, UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHEIIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. PIANNING COMMISSION MEETING DECEMBER 19 1984 PAGE 11 7. RECEIVE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MLNUTES: NOVEMBER 20, 19$4: MOTION BY MR. NIELSEN, SECONDED BY MR. MINTON, TO RECEIVE THE NOVEM- BER 20, 1984 ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COI�7ISSION MINUTES, Mr. Robinson stated the Environmental Quality Commission iooked at the sateLlite dish ordinance which wi11 be coming to the PLanning Commission in the near future. He stated the Commission talked about curbside recycling and a report was sent to the Council which would be discussed at their conference meeting. UPON A VOICE VOTE TAKEN ON THE ABOVE MOTION, ALL VOTING AYE, CHA II2WOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANI�DUSLY, 8. RECEIVE APPEALS COPQiISSION MINUTES: NOVEMBER 27. 1984: MOTION BY MS. GABEL, SECONDED BY MR, MINTON, TO RECEIVE THE NOVEMBER 27, 1984 APPEALS CONI�ffSSION NffNUTES, UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VQTING AYE, Ci3AIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECIARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 9. RECEIVE ENERGY COrP�ffS5I0N MINUTES: NOVEMBER 27. 1984: MOTION BY MR, MINTON, SECONDED BY M2, KONDRICK, TO RECEIVE THE NOVEMBER 27, 1984 ENERGY COIAffSSION MINUTES, Mr. Robinson stated I�fr, GYoody, Manager of the MinneapoLis Weatherization Frogram, talked to the Commission about the Neighborhood Energy Workshop and Operation Insulation. l�fr. Robinson stated there is the possibility of using this program in Fridd.ey as Mr. Groody i�dicated he would be willing to expand his staff to include Fridley. He stated he would report on this possibility. Mr. Robinson stated the State Legislature passed some laws that the utility companies had to work on some of the energy programs so Minne- gasco is paying for this program. � Mr. Robinson stated they had about 50 requests for the CO chemical badges and they would be sent out to�mrrow. UPON A VOICE VOTE TAKEN ON THE ABOVE I�%)TION, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED iJNANIMOUSLY, 10. RECEIVE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES: DECEMBER 6 1984: MOTION BY Mft, hIINTON, SECONDED BY MR, NIELSEN, TO RECEIVE THE DECEM6ER 6, 1984 HT3MAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES, . PLANNING COMNfCSSION MEETING DECENIBER 19 1984 PAGE 12 Mr. Minton stated the Human Resources Commission is working on the CDBG for the year. He also stated the Commission's recommendations regarding the Locke House/Banfill Tavern went to the Council and they forwarded the information to the County. UPON A VOICE VOTE TAKEN ON THE ABOVE MOTION, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED i3NANIMOUSLY, 11. RECEIVE APpEALS COMNIISSION MINUTES: DECEMBER 11. 1984: MOTION BY MS. C�1BEL, SECONDED BY MEt, NIELSEN, TO kECEIVE THE DECEMBER 11, 1984 APPEALS COMMCSSION MINUTES, Ms. Schna6el stated she really has a problem with the square footage for the property at 6500 University Avenue. UPON A VOICE VOTE TAKEN ON THE ABOVE MOTION, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY, 12. OTHER BUSINESS: There was no other business to come before the Co�nission at this meeting. ADJOURNMENT : Chairwoman Schnabel decLared the December 14, 1984 Planning Commission meeting adjourned at 10:50 p, m. Respectfully submitted, '�""'- -`-- ��=t/'�G��S(>� Carole Haddad Recording Secretary APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 27, 148A PAGE 5 be the people on Alden Circle who, if a second accessory building was built, woutd have it basically in their back yards. The peo�le most affected by these variances would be the people directly across East River Road, who were a long wey away. Ms, Gerou stated that if they grant these variances, would they be setting a precedent? This proposed garage would have a great big door, and to her that looked like a warehouse. Sfie did not like that idea. As Ms. Gabel hed stated, the hardship was not well defined, and she would not be in favor of granting the variances. Ms. 6abe1 stated she was oppo5ed to the variances because of the two reasons she had mentioned earlier: (1) She did not know what kind of precednet they would be settin . If a precedent is to be set, it should be set by the City Councii, �2) She believed the hardshtp was self-imposed. MOTION BY MS, GERDU TO DENY THE VAP.IANCES. MOTZLW DZED FOR LACK OF A SECOND. MOTION BY MR, PLEMEL, S£C07;DED BY MR. BARNA, TO RECOl1MEND TO CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF A REQUEST FOR VARIANCES PURSUAIJT TY� CHAPTER 205 OF THE FRIDLEY CSTY CODE R1� INCREASE THE MAXIMC�M ALTAG7ABLE AREA FOR A GARAGE FRQM 1,000 SpUARE FEET TO 1�440 SpUARE FEET, AND SO ALIAW THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE GARAGE 21� EXCEED THE FIRST FLOOR AREA OF THE HOUSE, TO INCREASE SHE HEIGHT OF AN ACCESSORY BUILDING FROM TNE MAXZMUM FOURTEEN I14) FEET TC1 TF7ENTY-THREE (23) FEET� AND TD INCREASE THE MAXIMUAI SQUAP,� FO�AGE FOR ALL ACCESSORY BUILDINGS FROM 1,400 SQUARE FEET TO 1,440 SQUARE FEET� dV 7AT 35� AUDSTOR'S SUBDIVSION NO. 77, THE 5RME BEING 7210 EAST RIVER RORD N,E „ FRIDLEY, P1N, 55432� URGING TNE PET:TIONER TO KEEP :HE BUILDING AS IAW AS POSSIBLE Al7A IA➢lER THE GRADE IF POSSIBLE, UPON A VDICE VOTE� PLEMEL AND BARt7A VOmING AYE, GABEL AND GEROU VOTZPIG NAY, CHAIRpERSdN GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION FAILED BECAUSE OF A TZE VOTE. Ms, Gabel recommended the petitioner contact the City Manager's office to find out when this item would go to the City Council. ADJOURtJMENT: MOP2027 BY PfR. BARNA� SECONDED BY MS. GEROU, TD ADJOUP,fJ THE MEETING. UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE NOV. 2�� 2984, AppEALS COtiMISSZON MEETING AATOURNED AT 8:25 P.M. Re pectfuliy sub itted, / ''i=�� -.�/ yne aa Recording Secretary