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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JULY 18, 1984
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairwoman Schnabel called the July 18, 1984, Planning Commission meeting to
o rder at 7:33.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Oquist, Mr.Nielsen, Mr. Kondrick, Ms. Gabel,
Mr. Minton, Mr. Saba
Members Absent: None
Others Present: Jim Robinson, Planning Specialist
Don Hanson, 1482 Onondaga St. N.E.
James I. Taylor, 1487 - 97th Ave., Coon Rapids
Allen Mattson, MCCK Properties, Inc.
(See attached list)
APPROVAL OF JUNE 20, 1984, PLANNING CONpNISSION MINUTES:
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� MOTION BY MR. ICONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR. OpUIST, TO APPROVE THE JUNE 20� I984,
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECIARED THE MOTIDPI
CAP.RIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. TABLED: LOT SPLIT REQUEST, L.S. #84-08, BY UON HANSON: Split off the
Southerly 121_ feet of Lot 28, Auditor's Subdivision No. 129, and Outlot A,
Jim Lund Estates, to make a new building site at 1501 73 1/2 Avenue N.E.
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO REMOVE L.S. #84-08 FROM
THE TABLE. '
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UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCNNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Robinson stated that as discussed at the last meeting, there are
several large lots in this area that have the potential to be split also.
For that reason, the Planning Commission decided to table any further
discussion in order to inform the neighbors of this lot split request and
of the possibility of other lot splits, with the potential of 732 Avenue
going through, looping to'Osborne_at the east of the apartr.�ent building.
He stated that this would be based on an agreement with the apartment build-
ing owner that the apartment building driveway become a city street. At
this time, if just the petitioner, Mr. Hanson, splits his lot, Mr. Hanson will
,� put in a driveway to the cul de sac on 732 Ave. However, the City will secure
_ right-of-way for the splitting of any future lots.
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Ms. Schnabel stated this was not a plan the City had at this time. The
Planning Conmission thought it logical to present this idea to the neighbors
so that those neighbors who do have large lots that might be affected and
migF�t want to consider splitting could understand how it could be worked out.
It was notf�ing that had to be done, and it was just in the talking stages
at t(�is time. They alse wanted to get the rest of the neighbors' reaction.
Mr. Robinson stated that George Hanson, 1476 Onondaga St. N.E., Lot 26,
was not able to attend this meeting. Mr. Hanson did say he would be in
favor of the lot split, but he would like to make sure access was provided
because he was interested in splitting his lot sometime in the future.
Ms. Schnabel asked if there was anyone in the audience who would like to
make some comments.
Mr. James Vaughan, 1520 732 Ave. N.E.� stated he lived on the southeast
corner of the cul de sac. He stated that if 73� was extended� he would
hate to lose the cul de sac. His question was: Who would pay the assess-
ments for the street--would it be assessed to the new lots or would the
existing homeowners on the existing 73; also have to pay the assessments?
Mr. Robinson stated he believed the assessments would be paid by the lots
that are split, but he would do some further checking to see if that was
correct.
Ms. Sue Sherek, 1530 732 Avenue N.E., stated that the east end of 73'z also
ends in a cul de sac, so there are cul de sacs on both ends. At the east
end there is an apartment building, but the apartment was required to access
onto 73rd Avenue. If there was the possibility of multiple dwellings going
on any of the larger lots, would it be possible to have their access onto
73rd Ave. also?
Ms. Schnabel stated that was a hard question to answer at this time, but
the chances were that the City would prefer to have the access go onto 73rd.
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Ms. Schnabel asked if there were any neighbors in the audience who were ^
interested in splitting their lots. Hearing no other comments, Ms. Schnabel
stated they would proceed to handle the lot split request that was submitted
by the petitioner, Mr. Don Hanson.
Mr. Robinson restated the stipulations recomnended by Staff:
1. Provide a 27 ft. street easement for possible future use.
2. Asphalt curb work on 73a Ave. to be done by City's contractor
at owner's expense
3. Property owner to provide driveway to street
4. Driveway to be removed at no cost to the City in the event the
street goes through
5. Signed park fee agreement of $750
6. Split to be registered at the County prior to issuance of a
building permit, or before Oct. 15, 1984
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7. Front yard setback of 44 ft.
8. Rear yard setback of 25 ft.
9. Payment of special assessments
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR. MINTON� TO CLOSE Z'HE PUBLIC HEARING
ON L.S. N84-08 BY DDN 8AN50N.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
SEARING CLOSED AT 8:.00 P.M.
MOTION BY MR. OQUIST� SECONDED BY l�I2. KONDRICK� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF IAT SPLIT REQUEST, L.S. �84-08 BY DON HANSON� TO SPLIT OFF THE
SOUTNERLY Z21f FEET OF LOT 28� AUDITOR'S SUBDIVISION NO. 129, AND OUTLOT A�
JIM LUND ESTATES, TO MAKE A NEW BUILDING SITE AT 1501 73 1/2 AVENUE N.E.�
WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS:
1. PROVIDE A 27 FT. STREET EASEMENT FOR POSSIBLE FUTURE USE
2. ASPHALT CURB WORK ON 73� AVENUE TO BE DONE BY CITY'5
CONTRACZ�OR AT OWNER�S EXPENSE
3. PROPERTY OWNER 2b PROVIDE DRIVEWAY TO STREET
4. DRIVEWAY TO BE REMOVED AT NO COST TO THE CITY IN THE EVENT
THE STREET GOES THROUGH
5. SIGNED PARK FEE AGREEMENT OF $750
^ 6. SPLIT TO BE REGISTERED AT THE COUNTY PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF A
�� BUILDING PERMIT� OR BEFORE OCT. 15� 1984
7. FRONT YARD SETBACK OF 44 FT.
8. REAR YARD SETBACK OF 25 FT.
9. PAYMENT OF SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Schnabel stated this item would go to City Council on August 6.
2. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #84-12, BY
ES I. TAY OR: Per Section 205.14.1,C, 4, of the Fri ley City Co e,
�1 to allow a repair garage (Midas Muffler) on Lot 1, Block 1, University
Industrial Park, the same being 8080 University Avenue N.E.
MOTION BY MR. KONDFtI'CK� SECONDED BY MR. MINTON� TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING
ON SP #84-Z2 BY JAMES I. TAYLOR.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TNE PUBLIC
gEARING OPEN AT 8:04 P.M.
Mr. Robinson stated this property was located on the southwest corner of
81st and University. The zoning was C-2, and it was surrounded by light
and heavy industrial with sorr� additional C-2. The site plan showed the
building situated i� the northern portion of the lot. It included 35 ft.
^ setbacks all around the building. There will be 28 stalls, 22 outside and
6 inside. He stated the proposal meets all code requirements.
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Mr. Robinson stated Staff would recomnend the following stipulations:
1. Approved landscape plan with irrigation system
2. No outside storage
3. Approved drainage plan
Ms. Schnabel asked the petitioner if he had any comnents he would like to make.
Mr. James Taylor stated he was currently operating the Coon Rapids Midas
Muffler store and has been there for 5 years. Prior to that, he worked for
Midas International in Palatine, I11., totalling 12 years with the company.
He stated business was good in Coon Rapids, and it was time to look forward.
After looking around, they felt Fridley was the best area for expansion as
it would be easy for him to control both stores. He stated he would like to
build in Fridley, and if the special use permit is approved, he would like
to open his business in the sumner of 1985.
Ms. Schnabel asked about the hours of operation.
Mr. Taylor stated they would be the normal retain hours: 8:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m.
Monday through Friday with one late night; 8:00 a.m. - 4:00 p.m, on Saturday,
and closed on Sunday.
Ms. Gabel asked if they would do any oil change work.
Mr. Taylor stated they do very little. They do have a 250 gallon tank in the
dumpster for used oil. When it is full, it is picked up and hauled away.
MOTION BY 1�2. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MS. GABEL, � CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING
ON SP #84-12, BY JAMES I. TAYLOR.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIIiWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING CLOSED AT 8:15 P.M.
MOTIOIN BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR. SABA, 210 REC0I�IEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT� SP #84—Z2, BY JAMES I. TAYLOR� PER SECTION
205.14.Z�C�4� OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE, TO ALLOW A REPAIR GARAGE (MIDAS
MUFFLER) ON LOT .Z, BLOCK 1, Ut72VER3ITY INDUSTRIAL PARK, THE SAME BEING
8080 UNIVERSITY AVENUE N.E.� WITS TXE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS:
1. APPROVED LANDSCAPE PLA1V WITH IRRIGATION SYSTEM
2. APPROVED DRAINAGE PLAN
3. NO OUTSIDE STORAGE
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CbiAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLAI2ED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. �
Ms. Schnabel stated this item would go to City Council on August 6.
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3. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #84-13, MCCK
R I S, T C., D C I D: er Sect�on .., ,, o t e
rt ey 1 y o e, o a ow o s 8 and 79, Block A, River Heights, zoned
R-1 (one family dwellings� to be used for a parking lot and garage to be
used in conjunction with a 7-unit multiple dwelling at 441 Hugo Street N.E.
MOTION BY M3. GABEL� SECONDED BY MR. MINTON� TO OPEN THE PUBLIC XEARING
ON SP #84-13 BY MCCK PROPERTIES, INC.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
NEARING OPEN AT 8:20 P.M.
Mr. Robinson stated the proposal is for a 7-unit townhouse on the northeast
corner of Nugo St. and East River Road. The property is zoned R-3 on
the west with a 50 ft, portion of R-1 on the east. He stated the structural
part of the development will be entirely on the R-3 property. The code states
that a parking lot is allowed on R-1 property with a special use
permi t.
Mr. Robinson stated the variances requested and approved by the Appeals
Commission on July 10 were for the reduction of a planting strip from 15 ft.
to 5 ft. in the R-3 portion and 10 ft, to 5 ft. in the R-1 portion. The
Appeals Commission also approved a variance to reduce the front yard setback
/� from 35 ft. to 25.6 ft.
Mr. Robinson stated one of the big concerns expressed by the neighbors at
the July lOth Appeals Comnission meeting was that Hugo St, was only 26 ft.
wide, and they were very concerned about parking on the street. It was
suggested by the Appeals Comnission that parking be allowed only on the north
s i de of the street.
Mr. Robinson stated Staff would recommend the same stipulations as those
for the variances:
1. The units be constructed of townhouse design
�'�1 2. A drainage plan be approved by the City's Engineering Dept.
3. An approved landscaping plan
4. A 172 ft, easement along East River Road
5. A fire wall be constructed along the east wall of the garage
Mr. Oquist stated another stipulation might be that there be continuity
between the outside finish of the garages and the townhouses.
Mr. Allen Mattson, a partner in MCCK Properties, Inc., stated they are
planning to use 4-5 inch boards on the back of the garages so it will look
like fencing. Whatever they do with the townhouses, they will incorporate
the same outside finish with the garages.
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Mr. Leonard Dailey, 8191 East River Road, stated he owned the 5-unit
apartment complex on East River Road. He stated he was in favor of this
proposal. His main concern was drainage, because the run-off goes to a
low spot in the back of his lot. He just wanted to make sure the drainage
was handled adequately.
Mr. Peter Rech, 8161 Ruth Circle, stated he traveled Hugo St. every day to
East River Road. He stated Hugo St, is only 26 ft, wide and when there are
two cars parked on both sides of the street, it is very tricky to pass
another car. It was very difficult for school buses and emergency vehicles.
He stated he wanted to again bring this concern to tF�e Planning Comnission's
attention.
MOTION BY MR. MINTON� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC XEARING ON
SP 84-13 BY MCCK PROPERTIES� INC.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
lYEARING CLOSED AT 8:50 P.M.
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY 1�2. SABA� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT� SP �84-Z3, MCCK PROPERTIES, INC.� BY
DON CHOUINARD� PER SECTION 205.07.1� 3� E� OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE� TO
ALLOW LOTS 78 AND 79� BIAi.K A� RIVER HEIGHTS, ZONED R-1 (ONE FAMILY DWELLINGS) �
TO BE USED FOR A PARKING LOT AND GARAGE TO BE USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH A 1
7-UNIT MULTIPLE DWELLING AT 44Z HUGO STREET N.E., WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS:
1. THE UA/ITS BE CONSTRUCTED OF TOWNHDUSE DESIQV
2. A DRAINAGE PLAN BE APPROVED BY THE CITY'S ENGINEERING DEPT.
3. AN APPROVED LANDSCAPING PLAN
4. A.I7� FT. EASEMENT ALONG EAST RIVER ROAD
5. A FIRE WALL BE CONSTRUCTED ALONG THE EAST WALL OF THE GAR.�IGE
6. THE EXTERIOR OF THE EAST GARAGE WALL BE OF THE SAME MATERIAL
AS TXE TOWNHOUSES
7. TXERE BE A TOWNHOUSE COVENANT
UPON A VDICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTIDN
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. ��
MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY 1�?. KONDRICK� TD CONCUR WITH THE APPEALS
COMMISSION�S RECOMMENDATION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDER A"NO PARKING"
REQUIREMEIVT ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF TXE 400 BLOCK OF HUGO ST. IN ORDER TO
ACCOMMODATE PARKING.
Ms. Gabel stated her only concern was that maybe a"no parking" requirement
on just the 400 block was too limiting. The City should probably consider
more than just the 400 block of Hugo.
Ms. Schnabel agreed that perhaps more than the 400 block of Hugo should be
looked at by the City as far as "no parking" on one side of the street, and
perhaps other streets in that area that have similar problems. The reason '�
for the Planning Comnission's concern was for emergency vehicles, such as -
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fire trucks, plus the neighbors have pointed out that school buses also
have a problem traveling the streets when there is parking on both sides.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAI�OMAN SCNNABEL DECLARED TNE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Schnabel stated both the special use permit and the variances would go
to City Council on August 6.
4. RECEIVE JUNE 7, 1984, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. MINTON� SECONDED BY MR. OQUIST� TO RECEIVE THE JUNE 7� 1984�
1'IUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMDUSLY.
5. RECEIVE JUNE 18, 1984, PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MR. MINTON� TO RECEIVE TNE JUNE 18� 1984,
PARKS 6 RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES.
� UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLAFtED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
6. RECEIVE JUNE 19, 1984, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMh1ISSI0N MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. NIELSEN� SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK, TO RECEIVE THE JUNE Z9, 1984,
ENVIRONI�NTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
7. RECEIVE JUNE 26, 1984, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
n MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TD RECEIVE TNE JUNE 26, 1984,
APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CAAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8. RECEIVE JULY 10, 1984, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY 1�Z. KONDRICK, TO RECEIVE TXE JULY 10, 1984�
APPEALS COMMISSION M.IIV U�'ES .
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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9. RECEIVE JUNE 27, 1984, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES:
MOTZON BY MR. OQUIST� SECONDED BY MR. MINTQN, TO RECEIVE T8E JUNE 27� 1984�
90USING 6 REDETJELOPl�NT AUTHORITY MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE Vt�TE, ALL VGTII�G AYE, CXAllifi►OMAN SCXNABEL DECLARED THE MOTIQN
CARRIED UNANIIKOUSLY.
10. OTHER BUSINESS:
a. Public Hearings on Lot Splits
Ms. Schnabel stated that at the last meeting, the Planning Comnission
members had briefly discussed public hearings on lot splits. She had
asked Staff to prepare some kind of proposal for a change in the
ordinance to be presented to the Comnission at this meeting.
Mr. Robinson stated he had first talked to Dave Newman, City Attorney,
and Mr. Newman agreed that if the Planning Comnission is going to have
informal public hearings on lot splits, they should have them across
the board for all lot splits.
Mr. Robinson stated he then went to the Staff to see if they wanted to �
pass an ordinance to revise the code. He stated it was Staff's recortmenda- �
tion that the informal public hearings be handled as a matter of policy
and not a change in the law.
Mr. Robinson stated this policy change has been approved by Staff, so
whenever there is a lot split request, Staff will automatically send
out notices for an informal public hearing.
The Planning Comnission members were very much in agreenrent with this
policy change.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MR. MINTON, SECONDED BY 1�IIt. KONDRICK� TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. UPON A
VOICE VOTE� ALL DOTING AYE� CIYAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DSCLARED TXE JULY 18� I984�
PLANNING C0IHMISSION MEETING AA70URNED AT 9:45 P.1N.
Respectfully submitted,
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Recording Secretary
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