PL 02/27/1985 - 6847City of Fridley
A G E N D A
PLANNING COMt4I5SI0N MEETING WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 27, 1985
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: JANUARY 23, 1985
7:30 P.M.
PAGES
1 - 11
1. VACATION REQUEST: SAU k85-01, G& G BUILDERS BY GARY WELLNER: 12 - 18
To vacate a 3 foot by 12 foot section of a 0 foot utility and
drainage easement on Lot 8, Block 1, Doty/Wellner Addition,
because of placement of the dwelling at 115 5atellite Lane N.E.
2. LOT SPLIT REQUEST: L.S. �85-02, BY ST. ANTHONY VILLAGE SHOPPING 19 - 28
CENTER: Sp it o f two parce s, one part o ots an , the
other part of Lots 17 and 18 (see file for legal) to be sold
to Shorewood Inn for parking and building expansicn, the same
being 6161 Highway 1i65 N.E.
3. LOT SPLIT REQUEST: L.S. N85-03, BY ROBERT S. 6ILSTAD: Split 29 - 36
off the Easter y 0 feet, except the Northerly 35 feet of part
of Lot 1, Auditor's Subdivision No. 25 (see file for legal) to
De used as a parking lot for the apartments on Lynde Drive.
(Moore Lake Apartment Complex)
4. LOT SPLIT REQUEST: L.S. ll 85-04, BY J.A. MENKVELD & ASSOC.,INC.:37 - 44
Split Lot , Block 2, Brookview 2nd A dition except the South 1D0'
thereof into three lots, 2- 70 foot lots and 1- 75 foot lot to
be used for single family residences, the same being 1040-1050-
1060 67th Avenue N.E.
5. RECEIUE HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES OF
0, 1985
6. RECEIVE ENVIRONMENTAL OUALITY COMMISSION MINt1TES OF
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8
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RECEIVE ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES OF JANUARY 22, 1985
RECEIVE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES OF ,]ANUARY 29, 1985
RECEIVE PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSIOP; IdINUTES OF FEBRUARY 4,
985
RECEIYE APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 12, 1985
11. OTHER BUSINESS:
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CITY OF FRT�LEY
PLANNINf COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 23, 1985
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairwoman Schnabel called the January 23, 1985, Planning Commission meeting
to order at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Saba, Mr. Nielsen, Mr. Kondrick, Mr. Minton,
Mr. Barna (for Ms. Gabel)
Members Absent: Mr. Oquist
Otliers Present: Jim Robinson, Planning Coordinator
Wallace Miller, 831 - 40th Ave. N.E.
Jack Menkveld, 1200 Mississippi St. N.E.
James Neilson, 118 E. Main St., Anoka
Gordon Backlund, 5805 Arthur St. N.E.
Jacob Wiens, 5809 Arthur St. N.E.
(See attached list)
APPROVAL OF DECEMBER 19. 1984. PLAI�NI��G Ca�MI55I0N MIWUTES:
MOPION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR, MINTAN� TO APPROVE TAE DEC. 19� 1984�
PLAIVNING COMMISSIDN MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRGIOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRSED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. PU8LIC HEARING: CONSIDERATIOFJ Of A REZONING RE�UEST ZOA #84-05,
BY�CE ILZ D J. K E ezone from - one ami y
we ings to R-3 genera mu tip e dwellings) Lot 2, Block 1, and Lot 7,
Block 2, except the Southerly 100 feet, all in Brookview Second Addition,
for a townhouse-type development, generally located on the North and South
side of 67th Avenue N.E, on Highway #65.
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEAPSNG
CYJ ZOA N84-OS BY WALLACE MELLER AlJD J. A. MENA'VELD.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOT217G AYE� CNASRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE
PUBLIC HEARING OPEN A4' 7:33 P.M.
Mr, Robinson stated this property was located just east of Highway 65 on
the north and south side of 67th Ave. The present zoning is R-1 (single
fanily). The majority of the neighborhood is single family, althouqh there
are sane R-3 zones that are not being utilized as R-3. The plat in question
called for 18 townhouses, 11 of them to be located on Lot 2, Block 1, apnroxi-
mately 33,800 sq. ft. The density was 1 unit per 3,072 sa. ft.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 23, 1985 PAGE 2
Mr. Robinson stated 7 units, approximately 28,810 sq, ft., would be located
on Lot 7, Block 2. The density was 1 unit per 4,116 sq. ft.
Mr. Robinson stated that along with the plat the petitioners are requesting,
there are several variances that will have to be approved. The variances
on the lot to tfie north (Lot 2, Block 1) include a driveway setback from
right-of-way from 75 ft, to 30 ft,; a rigfit-of-way setback to the building
from 35 ft, to 25 ft.; rear yard setbacks from 25 ft. to 20 ft.; and a
sideyard setback from 15 ft, to 10 ft. Tf�e lot to the south (Lot 7, Block 2)
_has fewer variances. There is a driveway setback from 75 ft. to 45 ft.; and
two sideyard variances from 15 ft. to 10 ft.
Mr. Robinson stated that in general, the 18 townhouses will be "zero" lot
line construction. Each unit will have 2-3 bedrooms and double car garages
with additional surface parking and approximately 1,500 sq. ft. of living
area. Estimated cost of these townhouses will be $85,000 and up.
Mr. Robinson stated that in terms of the City's Comprehensive Plan, the City
does feel that multi-family housing is good for the City; however, alonq
t�tith that policy, the City has stated in the Comprehensive Plan that housing
should be at a density compatible with the surroundinq area. In addition
to that, the Cit,y has encouraged new housing construction to be compatible
with the neighborhoods in which the housing is located.
Ms. Schnabel asked if the petitioners were in the audience.
Mr. James Neilson stated he was an attorney representing the develooers.
He stated there were two owners of the property. Mr. Jack Menkveld, builder
and developer, was the owner of the property to the south, Mr. Wallace Miller
was the owner of the property to the north, and the townhouses would 6e built
by Mr. Menkveld.
Mr. Neilson stated the property was intended to be divided which means
platting. The platting would be for a townhouse development. a single familv
residential, owner-occupied dwelling. Each dwelling will have a tuck-under
two-car garage of 1,470 sq. ft. The estinated tax value for each parcel would
he about $1,100 for a total af $19,800 for both Block 1 and Block 2.
Mr. Neilson stated that if this was a single family dwelling, no variances
would be required, With a townhouse development, in order to have the plat
go on record, they would have restrictive covenants and declarations for
the homeowners' association, articles of incorporation, and by-laws. These
are single family residences, not an apartment complex.
Mr. Neilson stated the developer has planned for three buildings of three
units, one building with four units and one building with five units.
Both tf�e block on the south as well as the block on the north would hold the
same amount of units if they were straight across on 67th. That was not
intended by the developer. The developer believes that aesthetically, it is
much better to try to divide it into as small a unit as possible. Aesthetically,
it was also much better for the neighborhood.
PLANNING COh4'9ISSION MEETING, JANUARY 23, 1985 PAGE 3
Mr. Neilson stated it should be taken into account that on the west side of
tfie pro�erty, there is presently a ch�rch and church parking lot. To the
west of Mr. Miller's property, there is one house and further to the west
is vacant property. The area is unique because it is right next to
Highway 65, Imnediately on the other side of the highway is an apartment
complex, as well as commercial property all the way to the north from
directly across from 67th Ave.
Mr. Neilson stated the real reason for asking for an R-3 zoning was in order
to build a more dense area than is allowed for single family. In manv cities,
t�is particular complex would be in a PUD district. Fridley has a five acre
requirement. Because there is a five acre requirement, the only zoning
Permissible for a townhouse or condominium on a small area is R-3 zoninq.
In looking at density and sideyard requirements and requirements for drive-
ways, he felt the R-3 zoning was really addressing apartment complexes. For
an apartment complex, the R-3 zoning would permit 17 units on the north and
22 units on the south. This was not what the developer was asking for. The
developer was merely asking for 7 units and 11 units.
Mr. Neilson stated the developer had originally planned 19 units on these
t�o blocks instead of 18. Because of a concern of an adjoininq property
owner to tfie south, Mr. Orville Jacobson, the developer agreed to eliminate
one of the originally proposed townhouses.
Mr. Neilson stated that all the stipulations required by the Planning
DePart�ent are acceptable; however, since the units were reduced from 19
to 18� the park fee would be reduced from $9,500 to $9,000.
Mr. Neilson stated t1r. �4enkveld has been a builder for a number of years.
He built a number of homes in 1984, and Mr. Neilson had brought some pictures
to show the Commission some of the homes Mr. Menkveld had built in 1984.
Mr. Robinson asked what tvpe of construction would be used.
Mr. Miller stated the structures would be all wood with brick fronts.
Ms. Schnabel asked if there were any comments from people in the audience.
Ms, Angela Percic, 1020 68th Ave. N.E., submitted a petition to the Planning
Co�nission stating that those residents who had signed the petition were
opposed to the rezoning and wanted the property to remain R-1, single family.
IlOTION BY MR. SABA� SEC017DED BY MR. NEILSON� TO RECEIVE PETITION N0.2-1985.
UPON A VOICS VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. J. R. Ferguson, 6811 Oakley St. N.E„ stated these are single family
homes in this area. What impact �aould these proposed townhouses have on
the neighborhood with the increased number of neople livinq in the area and
the increased traffic?
PLANNING COMMISSIO�J MEETING. JANUARY 23. 1985 PAGE 4
Mr. Miller stated tfie townhouses would have very little impact on the
current status of the neighborfiood, because directly adjacent to the pro-
posed townhouses was Highway 65. The traffic should not be increased on
either 68th St, or Oakley St.
Mr. J. R, ferguson asked Mr. Neilson what was going to happen to the value
of his property in tfie next 10 years if these townhouses are built.
Mr. Neilson stated that, �aving done this type of work for 21 years, it was
his opinion that the townhouses would not decrease the value of Mr. Ferguson's
home at all. There are many other things that could be put on that nropertv,
such as very small homes, tfiat might affect the value of his property.
Mr. Ferguson stated he was not concerned with single family homes. If the
proposed townhouse development was constructed, he would be concerned about
his propert,y, the increased amount of traffic, and the value of his home in
the future.
Mr, Peter Vagovich, 6600 Brookview Dr. N.E., stated he lives approximately
100 ft. from the proposed development. He has lived in this home for six
years. He stated one concern he had was the increased traffic. The traffic
is already heavy on Brookview Drive. He stated he was against the pro�osal
and was in favor of single family homes. He stated there was no guarantees
that these townhouse units would not be rented. He stated there is already
quite a bit of low income throughout the neighborhood, but yet the neiqhbor-
hood is kept up well. He would rather take his chances with single family
homes and less traffic.
Ms. Martha Reckdall, 7823 Alden Way PJ.E., stated she was Land Management
Chairman for Michael Servetus Unitarian Church. She stated thev like their
location because of the woods and the quiet. The qroposed townhouse develop-
ment would definitely change the environment surrounding their church. On
behalf of the Michael Servetus Unitarian Church, she was ooqosed to the
development.
Ms. Kellie Vagovich, 6600 Brookview Drive N.E., stated they have inquired
about real estate, and thev have never heard that townhouses, duplexes,
apartment buildings, or multiple dwellings of any kind increased the value of
a single family home. She had always understood that they decreased the value
of a single familv home.
Mr. Wayne Bosell, 6821 Oakley St. N.E., stated he first moved into Fridley in
1952 with his parents. As he watched the area grow uo from nothing, his idea
of zoning was a place for everything and everything in its p7ace. He has
nuticed that very few of the areas with single family dwellings are dotted
with apartment buildings or industry close by. He was for maintaining the
few single family dwelling areas as they are.
PLANNI�JG COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARV 23. 1985
PAGE 5
MOTION BY MR. KQVDRICK, SECONDED BY hII2. SABA, TO CLOSE TNE PUBLZC HEARING
CYJ ZOA Ji84-OS BY WALLACE MILLER RND JACK MENKVELD.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHRIRWOMAI7 SCHNABEL DECLARED THE
PUBISC XEARING CL0.5ED AT 8:37 P.M.
Mr. Neilson stated that because of the concerns expressed by a number
people, the oetitioners would request that both the rezoninq request and
the preliminary plat request be withdrawn at this time.
2, PUBLIC HEARIN6: CONSIDERATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT, P,S. k84-05, TOIJNHOMES
KI , EK eingarepato te
property escri e as ot , oc , an ot , ock 2, except the
Southerly 700 feet, all in Brookview Second Addition.
Item withdrawn at petitioners' request.
3. LOT SPLIT REQUEST, L.S. #85-01, BY J. WIENS AND GORDON BACKLUND: Split
o t e out eet o e or ee o e es feet of
Lot 49, Auditor's Subdivision No. 92 (5809 Arthur) and add to 5805 Arthur
for side yard to eliminate a variance.
Mr. Robinson stated the proposal was to take 40 ft. from the parcel to the
north and add it to the parcel to the south. The additional land will be
used as a side yard and would also eliminate a side yard variance. This
was a simole straightforward reauest, except bv splitting off the 40 ft,
this would eliminate a buildable lot. Mr. Wiens was aware of this and was
agreeable to this.
Mr. Robinson stated Staff was recoeenending the following two stipulations:
(1) The survey be recorded with the County; and (2) The issue of a park fee
be resolved with the City Council.
MOTZON BY MR. KONDRSCK� SECONDED BY MR. SRBA� Rt� RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF LbT SPLIm REQUEST, L,S. N85-01, BY J. WIE17S AND G. BACXLiRJD,
TO SPLZT OFF THE SOUTH 40 FEET OF THE NORTH 166.40 FEET OF THE WEST 210 FEET
OF IAT 49� AUDITOR'S SUBDIVISION N0.92 (5809 ARTHUR) AND ADD TO 5805 ARTHUR
FOR SIDE YARD TO ELIMI?TATE A VARIANCE� WITH TXE S:IPULATZON TXAT TNE SUP.VEY
BE RECORDED AT TXE COIINTY.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRWOMRN SCXNABEL DECLARED THE I�OTI01J
CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Schnabel stated this item would go to City Council on February 4.
Mr. Backlund stated that he noticed the next item on the agenda was discussion
on possible revisions to the Sign Ordinance. He stated he would like to
address the proliferation of yard signs during an election, He stated it
was difficult to maintain yard signs and they are an eyesore, He did not
have an answer to the problem, but it should be addressed as the problem
is only going to get worse. He stated that Spring Lake Park's sign ordinance
does not allow 32 sq. ft. yard signs on R-1 property.
PLANNIN6 COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 23, 1985 PAGE 6
4. DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE REVISIONS IN THE SIGN ORDINANCE:
Mr. Robinson stated Staff is researching the possibility of revising the
City's Sign Ordinance. Primary issues they feel need to be addressed are:
1. The status of a sign variance upon replacement of the structure,
change of tenant or owner.
2. The status of legal non-conforming signs upon change of tenant
or owner, particularly when part of an overall sign plan.
3. The restriction of free-standing pylon sign size to 80 square
feet in area per development.
Mr. Robinson stated Staff was considering the following solutions to the
above three issues:
The tightening of sign variance duration to the immediate sign
and tenant/owner.
Rertaval of legal non-conforming status upon change of the message
displaved upon the sign or tenant/owner.
Revising the total square footage for a free-standing sign area
allowed per development to be more sensitive to the �aide range of
development types (i.e, multiple tenant center vs. singular
operations) and total area of the lot and/or structure and street
frontage.
Mr. Barna asked how they would address differently a permanent faced sign
as compared to a changeabte faced sign--where the message is changed frequently.
He stated it has been the feeling of the Appeals Commission that if they varied
a sign for a business, they varied it for that business only, It was not
intended that a new owner of a different business should continue with the
same sign.
Mr. Minton stated #1 sounded good, but regarding #2, maybe the removal of
a legal non-conforming status upon change of the message was too ambiguous
here, but a change of business even by the same owner should be an occasion
for eliminating the variance.
Mr. Barna stated it was his understanding that when a sign was altered in
any way, replaced, relocated, or damaged more than 50%, those were terminating
factors on a variance. There have been instances where the Appeals Cortmission
has made stipulations of other additional terminations on variances.
Mr. Robinson stated that was under Section 214.17,2 Legal Conforming Signs
and did not address variances.
Mr. Minton stated that it should be made clear in the code that any time a
sign is being replaced by more than 50�, the variance should lapse. This
would not include the pylon.
PLAf�NING COhMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 23, 1985 PAr,E 7
Ms. Schnabel stated the Canmission should also take a look at whether or not
there should be another section in the Sign Ordinance which dealt specifically
with, not only lapsing of variances, but when a sign becomes tllegal.
Mr. Robinson gave an overview of what some other comnunities in the metro
area are doing as far as the restriction of free-standing signs for development.
The Commissioners agreed they liked the idea of total square footage of free-
standing sign area to be based on the total square footage of retail space.
Mr. Barna stated they were talking about the sign as an area designation sign
for the whole shopping center, not with every business in the shopping center
having its name on the same pylon. From that ooint, the building sign plan
would control the individual businesses' signs.
Mr. Robinson stated that since the Planning Commission has indicated they
would like to be more restrictive on legal non-conforming signs and variances,
Staff would prepare a draft to bring back to the Commission.
Ms. Schnabel stated Staff should also look at Mr. Backlund's suggestion about
political signs--possibly that 32 sq. ft. political signs not be allowed in
R-1 areas.
5. DISCUSSION ON CUR65IDE RECYCLING IN FRIDLEY:
Mr. Robinson stated all the material included in the Commission's agenda
had been presented to the City Council. The Citv Council has tabled this
item at the last two meetings. He stated the Staff is now ready to put
together specifications to go out for bids and proposals from the various
haulers.
Mr, Saba stated the Energy Cortmission has looked at the curbside recycling
program and support it 100%. The Energy Commission made a motion at their
last meeting recommending the City Counci adopt this plan. He stated it is
a giant step in the right direction,
Mr. Nielsen stated the Envirronmental Quality Comnission is firmly in support
of the curbside recycling program for the City and made a motion to the
City Council to authorize Staff to put out a request for proposals this
winter with an ultimate goal being a curbside recycling program in pl�ce by
June 1, 1985.
MOTION BY MR. MINTON, SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK� TO CONCUR WITH THE MOTIOLI
MADE BY THE ENVIRONHENTAL QUALITY COMMISSZOP! RECOMMENDING THE CITY COUNCIL
AUTNORIZE STAFF 2t� PUT OUT A REpUEST FOR PROPOSALS THSS WZNTER F77"_'H THE
ULTZMA^E GOAL BEING A CURBSIDE RECYCLING PROGRAM IN pLACE BY �7UNE I, 1985,
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECZ1lRED THE MOTZON
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
PLANNIN6 COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 23, 1985 PAGE 8
6. RECEIVE DECEMBER 13, 1984, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECOP7DED BY MH. SABA, TO RECEIVE THE 9EC. 13� 1984,
HOUSZNG & REDEVELOPMENT A(TlXORITY MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE�ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWQI?AN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MO:'SON
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
7. RECEIVE DECEMBER 18, 1984, PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. KONDRZCK� SECONDED BY MR. MINTON� TO RECEIVE THE DEC. I8, 5984,
PARKS & RECRERTION COMMISSION MINUTES,
UPON A VOZCE VOTE, RLL VOTING AYE� CHAFRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8. RECEIVE JANUARY 3, 1985, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. MINTON� SECONDED BY MR. NIELSEN� TO RECEIVE THE JAN, 3, 1985,
HUMAN RESOURCES COlfMISS7077 MINUTES.
Mr. Minton explained the situation with Redeemer Lutheran Church coming
before the Human Resources Commission to request an extension of time
(3 years) from the City in order to obtain funds to put in an elevator
necessary to make the new building accessible to the handicapped. He
stated the Comnission will make its recommendation at the next meeting.
Ms. Schnabel stated she would be very uncomfortable with the Citv coming
down hard on Redeemer Lutheran Church when City Hall was in violation of
being totally handicapped accessible. She quoted from the Jan. 8, 1985,
Comnunity Development Commission minutes: "Mr. Burch stated that block
grant money was spent last year to put a ramp in for City Hall. A wider
area was made so that a handicapped van could be unloaded, bathrooms were
redone to accommodate the handicapped. The only thing left, which would
be long range, would be an elevator."
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE� CHAIRN70MAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNRt7IMOUSLY.
MOTION BY MR. MINTON� SECONDED BY l4R. SABA� TO C017CUR WI_TH THE MOTION l2ADE
BY THE HUMAN RESO(IRCES COMMISSZOIJ 21� RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL THRT THE
FOLIAWING ORGANIZATIONS RECEZVE 1984 CDBG FUNDS:
£AMZLY LIFE !!E'NTAL HEALTH CENTER -0-
NORTH SUBURBAN FAMZLY SERVICE CENTER $ 2�960
CENTRAL CENTER FOR FAMILY RESOURCES 5,000
SORT (ELIMINATED)
ALEY,ANDRA HOUSE, INC. 3,200
AC70KA COUNTY VOLUNTEER ALLIANCE -D-
ANOKA COUNTY COMMUNITY ACTION PROGRAM 6,I29
$Z7,289
PLANNING COhMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 23, 1985 PAGE 9
UPON A YOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIR!•IOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TXE
MOTION CARRIED UNRNZMOUSLY.
Mr. Minton stated that since the Numan Resources Comnission felt the
"prevention" programning in the elementary schools was so important, they
were re-introducinq a motion that the City be encouraged to expand the
"prevention" programning sponsored by the Fridley Police Dept, to all the
elementary public schools within the City of Fridley. This was deleting
the private elementary schools.
Mr. Saba stated he felt the Planning Comnission members had some misunder-
standings about this particular programning at their last meeting. He did
not have any problem reconsidering the Human Resources Commission's motion.
He would like to see the Police Dept, expand the program to whatever facility
they feel would benefit from it, whether private or pu6lic elementary,
nursery schools, day-care centers, etc. He would like to leave that decision
up to the Police Dept.
MOTIQV BY MR. MINTON� SECONDED BY F42. SABA� TO CONCUR D77?X THE MOTION MADE
BY TXE HUMAf7 RESOURCES COMMISSION THAT THE CITY BE EPJCOURAGED TO EXPAND
TNE "PREVENTION" PROGRAMMING SPONSORED BY TXE FRIDLEY POLZCE DEPARTI4ENT,
AfJD THA2 BECAUSE OF THE NECESSITY OF TIfIS PROGRAMMING,�TNE "PREVENTION"
PROGRRl11NING BE EXPANDED AT THE DISCRETZON OF TXE FRIDLEY pOLICE DEPARTMENT.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE� CXAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MO'_"ION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
9. RECEIVE �ANUARY 8, 19H5, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR. MINTON� 21� RECEIVE THE JAN. 8� I985�
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMZSSI017 MINUTES,
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCKNABEL DECLARED TNE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
10. RECEIVE JANUARY 15, 1985, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. BARNA� SEC017DED BY MR. KONDRICK� TO RECENE THE .7AN. .ZS� 2985�
APPEAZS COMHZSSION MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VO?'ING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECL7IRED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11. OTHER BUSINESS:
a. 1985 Community �evelopment B1ock Grant (CDBG) Pr000sals
Mr. Robinson stated the Commission was being asked for input regarding
the 1985 potential CDBG projects. He stated this year's allocation
is $128,077 as compared to $127,840 in 1984. It has been pr000sed again
to use 15% of that amount for human service grants, $19,176, leaving
$108,664. The following projects have been proaosed:
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 23, 1985 PAGE 10
1. 15% to Human Service Grants
2. Plaza Center Projects
a. Four corner landmark - design implementation
b. Area directional signage
c, Mississippi Blvd, landscape and sidewalk improvements
d. Utility improvements (underground power) from Univ.
Ave. to Main St.
3. Curbside recycling program/subsidy (Economic development -
Jobs Creation).
4. Development of Riverview Heights Park (matching funds to
possible 1985 LAWCON funds)
5. Any project benefitting designated low and moderate income
census tracts (park project, street improvements, etc.)
Mr. Barna stated he would like to recommend an addition to the projects
proposed-- that an elevator be looked into on the east side of C�ty
_ Hall in order to make both floors of the building totally handicapped
accessible.
The Commissioners agreed with this recommendation.
MOTION BY MR. BARNA, SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK, TO RECOMMEND THE FOLLOFI-
INC. PROJECT BE ADDED TO SNOSE PROJECTS RLREADY PROPOSED FOR 1985 CDBG
FUNDING: AN ELEVATOR BE INSTALLED ON TNE ERST SIDE OF CITY HALL ZN
ORDER TO MAKE BOTH FLOORS OF THE BUZLDING �TALLY ACCESSIBLE TO THE
XANDICAPPED.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCNNABEL DECLARED THE
M02'ION CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY,
AD�lOURNMENT:
MO'�'IQ'V BY 1�II2. MINTON� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO ADJOURl7 THE MEETSNG. UPON A
VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE JAN. 23, 1985,
PLANNING COMMZSSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT II:00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Recording Secretary
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CITV OF FRIDLEY.
BY�t IJNIVEASITY AVE. NE.
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SU9JECT ZONING ACTION ZOA M
XUACATION SAV N�
PLAT PS N
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ADDRE55 l/ �� S� r, i• r � �� DA7E �z r— 5�
PLANNING COMMISSION: APPROVED DISAPPROVED DATE N0.
CITY CQUNCIL: PUBLIC HEARING DATE 1ST READ 2ND READ
CITY CAUNCIL: APPROVED DISAPPROYED DATE NO
PARK fEE REQUIRED: AMOUNT PAID
STIPULATIONS:
STREET LOCATION OF PROPERTY
LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF
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PRESENT ZONING CLASSIfICATION DP-( EXISTING USE OF
ACREA6E OF PROPERTY />,,,, L, i DESCRIBE BRIEFLY THE
OR TYPE OF USE AND IMPROVEMENT PROPOSED /�/�Q -%f-
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RECEIPT NO �5��7
PROPERTY /�
PROPOSED ZONING CLASSIFICATION
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Has the pre�ent applicant previously sought to rezone, p1at, obtain a lot split or
variance or special use permit on the subject site or part of it? __yes_�no.
What was requested and when? �✓/,t.
The undersigned understands that: (a) A list of all residents and owners of proper-
ty within 35D feet must be attached to this application (rezoning), 300 feet, (Plat-
ting), wjl_1 be aftacAed to'this Appltication. '(b) This application must be signed
by all avners of the property, or an explanation given why this is not the case.
(c) Responsibility for any defect in the proceedings resulting from the failure to
• list the names and addresss of all residents and property owenrs of prop�rty in
question, belongs to the undersigned.
A sketch of proposed property and structure must be drawn and aYtached, showing the
following: 1. North direction. 2. Location of the proposed structure on the lot.
3. Dimensions of property, proposed structure, and fron and side setbacks. 4. Street
names. 5. Location and use of adjacent existing buildings (within 350 feet).
The undersi�ned hereby declares that all t�cts nd
this application are true and correct. �.9'� %
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SAV N85-01
115 Satellite Lane
Utility Company
We have a Vacation Request SAV A85-01 from G& G Builders
to vacate part of a drainage and utility easement.
If you fiave utilities in this easement and this vacation
would have an adverse effect on this easement, please
notify the City of Fridley Planning Department
6431 University Avenue N.E., fridley, MN 55432
Minnegasco has no facilities within the above described area
proposed to be vacated and has no objection to its vacation.
Thanks for the advance notice. .
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William R. chram
Administrator - Real Estate
NSP, Larry Benson, said they had
no utilities in this easement verbally
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ST�O[�RCABLE
C O M M U N I C A T I O N 5
Ylanning llepartment
City of Fridley
6431 University Avenue NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Gentlemen:
350 - 63rd Avenue N.E,
Fridley, MN 55432
February 11, 1985
The vacation request (SAV-85-01) from G& G Builders is okay
to vacate as we do not have anything in that easement.
Thank you.
R� 9�.e,�—�---
Randy Hanson
Chief Technician
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Northwestern Beii
6540 Shingle Creek Parkway
Brooklyn Center, MN 55430
February 11, 1985
City of Fridley Planning Dept.
6431 University Avenue N. E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
RE: Vacation Request SAV #85-01.
We are clear in this easement. Buried cable runs east and west, on
the north side of Satellite Lane. Partial vacation would not affect
us.
Sincerely,
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. L. Thistle
Design Engineer
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MIWING COlMISSI011: MPROVEO! DISAPPROYED OJITE NO
p1Y COU1lCIL:
PARK FEE REQUIRED:
STIPULATIQfiS:
APPROYED_� 01511PPROYED DATF N0,
AMOUNT PA1D
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�E . FEE ��/'' QJ RECEIPI NO�,�`�-�
PROPERi� OMNER(S) St Anthonv Villa�e Shoonin¢ ('enter IndELEPF10NE NO �79-2028
TELEPHONE NO
ADORE55(fS)_ 25 L3niversitv Ave S E #204
Minneapolis MN 55414 _ -
� 61st & Highway 65 N. E. , Fridley ___
PROPERTY LOUTION ON
LEG4L DESCRIPTION OF PROPERTY SO� (�,�2t+ —
TOTAL AREA Of PROPERTr ' PRESFNT ZONING__
REASON FOR LOT SPLIT 5�1� of land�o Shorewood�nn Restaurant —
The undersigned hereby declares that ail the tacts and representations stated in this
appliu tion are t�ue and correct.
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NOTItE: A sketth of the property and tTe proposed lot split Mith any existing strut-
tures shorm sAould accaipany this apptication. "
(See reverse side tor additional instructions)
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Effective January 17, 1984
1984 POLICT SfATF?�NT ON PARb FBfiS
ON LA)1D Sl3BDIOISION
Date
In determining fair market value of public areas for land �ubdivision for oash payment as
requirod by Ordinance 1633� the folloxing values xill be uaed:
Re�idential Subdivision
Residentiel Lot Split
Commercial/Iaduetrlal SuDdiviaioa or Lot Split
=1,500.00 per lat
= 750.00 per lot
j 0.023 Per aq. ft.
This fee is to De paid at the tlme of final plat or lot aplit approval. The City Council
may defer collectioa to tGe time a buildiag Dermit Sa reQuested for individual lota
created Dy auch aubdivision/lot eplit.
The City retains the option te accept an equivalent amount in cash from the applicant for
Dart or all of the portion reQuired to De dedicated.
YARR FEE AGREF�lENT
The undersigned understands that according to the City Pla'ting Ordinance, the fo11ox1ng
public park land dedication is required to plat residential, commercial or industrial
zoned property.
IL i� further understood that the public park land dedication or cash payment equivalent
is at the discretion of the City.
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It is agreed that a cash payment of =��C� ��yill be paid according to the above stated
policy for the following aubdivision/lot aplit.
It 1� agreed Lhat the folloxing land dedicatlon is provided according to the above stated
policy for the following auCdivlsion/lot aplit:
Dedicatlon:
Subdiviaton/Lot Split
The underaigned further agrees to aotify all future property ownera or assigns of the cash
paymtnt requirement, 1f it ia to be collected at t4e time of Seauance of a building
permit.
Date: - I ��$J
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C���C CENTER • 6131 UNIVERSITY AVE. N.E.. FRIDLEY. MINNESOTA 55632 • PHONE 16121 571-3450
February 19, 1985
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
The City of Fridley Planning Commission will be holding an info�al hearing
on a request for a lot split, L.S. k85-02, by St. Anthony Villa9e Shopping
- '"''� Ce�ter, to split off two parcels, one part of Lots 16 and 17, the other part
of Lots 17 and 18, Auditor's Subdivision �i88 to be sold to Shorewood Inn for
parking and building expansion, the same being 6161 Highway �65 N.E.
Anyone who wishes to be heard on this request can attend the Planning
Gommission meeting on Wednesday, February 27, 1985 in the Council Chamber
of City Hall at 6431 University Avenue N.E. at 7:30 p.m.
VIRGINIA SCHNABEL
CHAIRWOMAN
PLANNING COMMISSION
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Mailing List for L.S. �85-02
St. Anthony Uillage Shopping Center
St. Anthony Uillage Shopping Center, Inc.
25 University Avenue S.E. #204
Minneapolis, MN 55414
Shorewood Inn, Inc.
6161 Highway #65 N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
St. Phillips Lutheran Church
6180 Highway N65 N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
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APPROYEO OISAPPROVED_ DATE NO_
SUB�ECT �OT SPLIT
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PROPERTY OMNER(S C`�ck be��'G�oC�� �;I �c1 TELEPHONE NO S7i'�og7S
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PROPERTY LOCATION ON STREET
LEGAL DESCRIPTI�N D� PROPER'
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The undersigned hefeby Qecleres thet �11 �he facts and representations stated in this
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NOTICE: A sketch of the property and the proposed lot split with any existing struc-
tures shorm sAould acconpany this application. '
(See roverse side for a0ditional Snstructions)
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ERIDLEY
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CIVIC CENTEA • 6a31 UNIVERSITV AVE. N.E.. FRIDLEV. MINNESOTA 55132 • PHONE �6121 5�1-3450
February 11, 1985
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
The City of fridley Planning Cortmission will be holding an informal hearing
on a request for a lot split, L.S. �85-03, by Robert S. Gilstad, to split
off the Easterly 120 feet, except the Northerly 135 feet of part of Lot 1,
Auditor's Subdivision No. 25, to be used for parking at the apartments on
Lynde Drive.
Anyone who wishes to be heard on this request can attend the Planning
Commission meeting on Wednesday, February 27, 1985 in the Council Chamber
of City Hall at 6431 University Avenue N.E. at 7:30 p.m.
UIRGINIA SCHPIABEL
CHAIRWOMAY
PLANNING COMMISSIDN
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Lynde Drive Apartments
Joseph J. Branco
5720 Polk Street
Fridley, MN 55432
James L. Jorgenson
5730 Polk Street
Fridley, MN 55432
Louis J. Adams
5740 Polk Street
Fridley, MN 55432
Lewis & Vivian Hedland
5230 Russel Avenue North
Brooklyn Center, MN 55430
Robert S. Gilstad
930 Nackmann Avenue N.E.
Fridley, htV 55432
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REGISTERED PROPERTY ABSTRACT
Thi. aMtrxl cuvers Cenificate of Ti�le No. 19 379 dated March 16 , 19 6 0
r.•��+�crcJ _ January 4th, 1929
uf Titlr� u( AnuAa Cuunty, Minnesota.
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71�� TITLE INSURANCE COMPANY OF MINNESOTA, Anoka Title Division, dces hereby certify:
lhat iLe pruperly dcx�rilw•d in Ihe Cerlificate of Title appean iherein as fulluws:
The Easterly 12� feet, except the Northerly 135 feet of:
That part of Lot 1, Auditor's Subdivision Number 25 which is described
as follows, to-wit: Beginning at a point on the North line of said
Auditor's Subdivision Number 25, distant 221.7 feet East of the North��est
corner thereof, which point is also on the centerline of Central Avenue,
thence East on said North line a distance of 270.8 feet; thence South a
distance of 308.2 feet to a point on a line parallel with and 160 feet
North of the most Southerly line of said Lot 1, which point is 437.44
feet distant East from the centerline of Central Avenue; thence West
along a line parallel with and 160 feet North of the most Southerly line
of said Lot 1, 437.44 feet to the centerline of Central Avenue, thence
Northeasterly along said centerline to the point of beginning, and except
the horth 30 feet thereof, said 120 feet to be measured along the North
line of said Lot 1.
That acconliug �u said Cer[ificate, Ihe ��roperry is regjstered in the following names:
Lewis A. Hedlund and Vivian L. Hedlund, his wife
in fee simple as joint tenants
who, according to said Certificate, dZ'e of the age S a{ 32 & y0 � ar2 , marcied
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PROPERTY LOUTION ON STREET �Qoo�v ��� �' ��Tµ 3��
LEGAL DESLRIPTION OF PROPERTY l..o-r �T B wc� ?- a��-��E� 2N�
t+�l 1 Tl O w� ��xGE�I- T�-1 E � o JTN I00 � iN E.iL.E ��
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applic�tion are true and correct.
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NOTICE: A sketch of the property and the proposeE lot split with any existing struc-
tures shown should accompany this application. '
(See reverse side for additional fnst�uctions}
Effective January 17, 19B4 38
1980 POLICY STATF7iENT ON PARb FS6S
�N LAND SUBDIVISION
Date
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In determining fair market value of puDlic areas for land �ubdivisian for oash payment a�
requirod �y Ordinance #633r the folloving values vill be u�ed:
Ae�idential Subdivision
Re�idential Lot Split
Commercial/Industrial Subdiviaioa or Lot Split
sti,soo.00 yer ioc
= 750.00 per lot
S 0.023 Der aq. ft.
This fee is to be paid at tee time of final plat or 1ot aplit approval. The City Council
may defer collectioo to the time a building permit is requested for individual lota
cr.eated by auch aubdivision/lot aplit.
The City retaina the option to accept an equivalent amount in cash from the applicant for
part or all of the portion required to be dedicated.
PARR FEE AGREEMENT
The undersigned understands that according to the City Pla'ting Ordinance, the folloxing
public park land dedication is requlred Lo plat re�idential, commercial or industrial
zoned property.
It is further understood that the public park land dedication or cash payment equivalent
is at the discretion of the City.
It is agreed that a cash payment of E�SQ �` xill be paid according to the ebove steted
�olicy for the following aubdivisionllot split.
It is agreed Lhat the folloxing land dedication is provlded according to the above ntated
policy for tAe following aubdivision/lot ep11t:
Dedicatioa:
Subdiniaioa/Lot Split
The underaigned further a�ees to notiry all future property ownera or assigns of t6e cash
payment requirement, if it ia to be collected at the time of iaeuance of a building
pe�S t.
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CIYIC CENTER • 6491 UNIVERSITY AVE. N.E., FRIDLEV, MINNESOTA 55<32 • PMONE (6121 571-3a50
February 19, 1985
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
The City of Fridley Planning Commission will be holding an informal hearing
on a request for a lot split, L.S. �85-04, by J.A. Menkveld & Associates, Inc.
_ to split Lot 7, Block 2, Brookview Second Addition (except the South 100 feet
' thereof) into three lots, 2- 70' lots and 1- 75' lot to be used for single
family residences, the same being 1040-1050-1060 67th Avenue N.E.
Anyone who wishes to be heard on this request can attend the Planning
Commission meeting on Wednesday, February 27, 1985 in the Council Chamber
of City Hall at 6431 University Avenue N.E. at 7:30 p.m.
VIRGINIA SCHNABEL
CHAIRWOMAN
PLANNING COMMISSION
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L. � 85-0�( � �u� K� .1�5`xc.J.r�c
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a e same property
Ylal�ace Mi11er
831 40th Avenue N.E.
Cotumbia Heights, Mn 55421
J. A. Menkveld
1299 Mississippi Street N.E
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. 6 Mrs. Donald Boyer
999 Pandora Drive N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Herman Heath
99l Pandora Drive N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. 8 Mrs. Donald Crispin
6820 Oaktey Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. 6 Mrs. James Brubakken
6810 Oakley Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Robert Anderson
6800 Oakley Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Floyd C. Bradley
6830 Brookview Drive N.E
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Roger Patton
6820 Brookview Drive N.E.
fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. 3 Mrs. Bryce Shimnon
6810 Brookview Drive N.E.
Fridleyq.MN 55432
Mr. 6 Mrs. Richard H. Schoen
6800 Broakview Drive N.E.
Fridley, Mi 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Kenneth Strand
6801 Oakley Street N.E.
Fridley> Mn 55432
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J. Dee 8 R. Ferguson
6811 Oakley Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Ms. Nazel Y. Saba
6821 Oakley Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. 8 Mrs. Andrew Percic
1020 68th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Ardell Marcus
1010 68th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Francis R. Nash
1000 68th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Kenneth Yos
990 68th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432�
Michael Servetus Unitarian Society
7170 Riverview Terrace N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. 8 Mrs. Raymond Gerrety
1051 67th Avenue N.E.
Fridley> Mn 55432
Mr. 8 Mrs. Walter Leimgruber
1027 Mississippi Street N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. � Mrs. Elton Bolduan
6554 Brookview Drive N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. E Mrs. Steven Flattum
6566 Brookview Drive N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. S Mrs. Peter Vagovich
6600 Brookview Drive N.E.
fridley, Mn 55432
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Mr. b Mrs. Orville Jacobson
6606 Brookview Drive N.E.
fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. 8 Mrs. Robert M. Clausen
6799 Overton Drive N.E.
fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mr. Jeffrey Gustafson
6558 Oakley Drive N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Lewis H. Doyle
6551 Oakley Drive N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Louis G. Wells
6553 Oakley Drive N.E.
Fridley, Mn 55432
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CITY OF FRIOLEY
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
MEETING
JANUARY 10, 1985
_ CALL TO ORDER:
Vice-Chairperson Prieditis called the January 10, 1985, Housing & Redevelopment
Authority meeting to order at 7 95 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Elmars Prieditis, Carolyn Svendsen, Duane Prairie
Members Absent: Larry Commers, Walter Rasmussen
Otiiers Present: Nasim Qureshi, HRA Director
Sid Inman, City Finance Director
Dave Newman, City Attorney
APPROVAL OF DECEMBER 13, 1984, HOUSIN6 & REDEVELOPMEI4T AUTHORITY MINUTES:
MO.".'ZON BY MR. PRAZRIE� SECOIJDED BY MS. SVENASEN� TO APPROVE TfIE bEC. I3� I984�
XDUSING 6 REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES AS WRITTEN,
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIf7G AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON PRIEDITIS DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA:
The following items were added to the agenda:
5. Receive letter from Fridley 49'ers Days Committee Regarding
Use of HRA Land for Carnival
6. �irection on the Public Official Liability Insurance
MOTION BY MR. PRAIRZE� SECONDED BY MS. SVENDSEN� 20 APPROVE TXE AGENDA RS AMENDED.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTSNG AYE, YICE-CHASRPERSON PRIEDITZS DECLARED TXE MOTZON
CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY.
1. REUIEW STORER CABLE COMMUP�ICATION REQUE57 FOR REIMBURSEMENT OF COSTS
Mr. Prieditis stated that at the last meeting, the HRA members had received a
�opy of Mr. Newman's legal opinion dated Nov. 13, 1984, in which Mr. Newman
stated he supported City Staff's recortmendation that the relocation be at
Storer's expense.
Mr. Qureshi stated that some time ago, Staff recommended that Storer not be
reimbursed by either the HRA or the City for the relocation of Storer's over-
head lines. Storar had questioned their right and the legality of this
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, JANUARY 10, 1985 PAGE 2
recommendation. A couple of ineetings ago, the HRA directed its ]egal
counsel to review this. Mr. Newman has now advised the HRA of his opinion
in his memo of Nov. 13. A copy of Mr. Newman's memo was sent to Mr. Wegemer,
District Manager of Storer Cable, and P1r. Wegemer was informed that the
HRA would be discussing this issue at the Jan, lOth meeting. Storer was
invited to attend this meeting. Mr. Qureshi stated that since there was no
one from Storer at the meeting, it appeared that Storer was not going to
pursue this matter any further.
Mr. Prieditis stated the HRA had discussed this at the December meeting.
At that meeting, they had received Mr, Newman's legal opinion and had con-
curred with his recommendations. They had also agreed that this item be
formally put on the January agenda in order to give Storer an opportunity to
respond to this legal opinion.
Mr. Prairie stated this was a decision the HRA had agreed to some time ago,
and Mr. Newman's legal opin5on reconfirms what they had originally agreed upon.
2. AUTHORIZING SALE OF REFUNDING BONDS FOR CENTER CITY:
Mr. Qureshi stated Staff has supplied the HRA with the materials regarding
this item. Basically, it gave them an estimated outline of what the bonding
refunding cost analysis would be and a schedule to be followed,
Mr. Qureshi stated that at the last meeting, the HRA had agreed with the
concept, and Staff had agreed to bring the final documentation to this meeting.
He stated what Staff will be doing is coming to the NRA with the plan modifi-
cation for the refunding to be approved by the HRA on Feb. 14, and then on
March 14, the HRA will be approving the actual bond purchase agreement.
At this meeting, he was asking for authorization to proceed with refunding of
the bonds and follow the schedute that has been submitted.
Mr, Prieditis stated that at the last meeting, Mr. Rasmussen had expressed
some concerns. He asked if Mr. Rasmussen had communicated any other questions
or concerns to Staff.
Mr. Inman stated Mr. Rasmussen was ill and could not be at the meeting. He
stated he had encouraged Mr. Rasmussen to call him if he had any questions
or concerns, and Mr. Rasmussen had not called him.
Mr. Prairie stated they had discussed this at great length at the last meeting,
and nothing has changed, He would be in favor of approving the refunding of
bonds.
MOTION BY MP.. PRRIRIE� SECONDED BY MS. SVENDSEN� 2� APPROVE THE SCHEDULE FOR
THE REFUNDING OF BONAS.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON PRIEDITIS DSCLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, JANUARY 10, 1985 PAGE 3
3. FINANCIAL STATEMENT:
There was no financial statement.
4. CHECK REGISTERS:
MOTZON BY MS, SVENDSEN� SECONDED BY MR. PRAIRZE� TO APPROVE THE TCJO CHECK
REGIS2ERS AS SUBMZTTED.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON PRZEDITIS DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY.
5. RECEIVE LETTER FROM FRIDLEY 49'ERS DAYS COMMITTEE REGARDTNG USE OF H
Mr. Qureshi stated that last year the 49'ers Days Committee conducted the
49'er Days activities in the Community Plaza and surrounding area. They
felt this was uery successful and want to do the same this year. At the
Jan. 17th City Council meeting,a letter was received from the 49`ers Days
Committee requesting approval to use the vacant property between the
Comnunity Plaza and Fridley State Bank for a carnival and other events in
conjunction with the Fridley 49'ers Days celebration in June. He stated the
City Council had indicated they have no problem with this request, but since
it is HRA property, they would like the approval of the HRA also.
Mr. Prairie asked if the HRA was required to notify the Fridley Plaza Clinic
of this event, because it would be right next to their parking lot.
Mr. Qureshi stated they are not required to notify the clinic. The activities
would be cn the weekend and should not conflict with the clinic's operation.
Mr. Prieditis and Ms. Svendsen agreed it would be a neighbor;y courtesy to
notify the clinic of this event.
Mr, Prieditis stated the Comnunity Plaza was intended for occasions like this.
He would personally like to see the Plaza used as much as possible for events
like this and other events. He would strongly support the idea of the 49'ers
Days Committee using the Community Plaza and the HRA land for the 49'ers Days
carnival.
MOTION BY MR, PRAIRZE, SECONDED BY MS. SVENDSEN, TO RECEIVE THE LETTER FROM
THE 49'ERS DAYS COMMISTEE RND TO APPROVE TTIE USE OF TXE HRA PROPERTY FOR
THE 49'ERS DAYS CARNIVAL AND OTXER EVENTS. TXE HRA WOULD AISO REQUEST THAT
TNE HRA DZRECTOR NOTIFY THE FRZDLEY PLdZA CLINZC OF THZS EVENT,
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE, VICE-CXAIRPERSON PRIEDZTIS DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPf!ENT AUTHORITY MEETING, JANUARY 10, 1985 PA6E 4
6, DIRECTION ON THE PUBLIC OFFICIAL LIABILITY INSURANCE:
Mr. �man stated that at the last meeting, regarding the lease of the hardware
building, Mr. Commers had asked about the liability insurance for the HRA.
Mr. Inman stated they noticed the HRA f�ad adquate coverage until it came to
the Umbrella liability and the Public Officials liability. Prior to 7985,
the limited exposure of the HRA precluded acquiring Umbrella liability or
Public Official liabitity insurance. 8ased on the recent activities in other
cities, Staff would recommend the Umbrella liability and the Public Officials
liability which can be added on to the City's policy at a relatively small
amount. The approximate cost for naming the HRA on the City's Public Official
policy was $806. They do not have a quote for the Umbrella liability policy.
Mr. Inman stated that, pending some ridicu7ous amount on the Umbrella liability,
he would like a concurrence from the HRA members that they should be added
, on to the City's policy for the Umbrella liabi7ity and the Public Officials
liability.
Mr. Inman stated that on the second page of his memo dated Jan. 10, 1985,
to Mr. Qureshf, he talked about the insurance protection on the liquor ware-
house which he thought was more than substantial for the value of the building.
MOTZON BY MX. PRAIRIE� SECONDED BY MS. SVENDSEN, TO AUTHORZZE CITY STAFF TO
PROCEED WITX THE UHBRELLA LIABILITY AIJD PUBLZC OFFSCSALS LIRBILITY COVE'RAGE
FOR 7'HE Hgfi AND HFA COMMISSIONERS.
Mr. Qureshi stated he could supply the HRA with the numbers at the next
meeting, and the commissioners always had the option of rescinding or
changing their decision.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE� VICE-CHAZRPERSCYI PRIEDZTIS DECLARED TfIE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ADJOURNMEMT:
MO"_'ION BY MS. SVENDSEN� SECONDED BY MR. PRAZRIE� TO ADJOURN SNE MEETING. UPON
A VDICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON PRZEDITIS DECLARED THE
JAN. 10� I985, HOUSING 6 REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORSTY MEETING RAlOURNED AT 7:45 P.M.
Respectfully �,ubmitted,
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Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION
MEETING
JANUARY 15, 1985
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Nielsen called to order the January 15, 1985, Environmental Quality
Commission meeting at 7:40 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Wayne Wellan, Tom Gronlund, Bruce Peterson, Maynard Nielsen
Richard Svanda
Others Present: Jim Robinson, Planning Cootdinator
Susan Merriam, Planning Department
Norm Schiferl, Anoka County Solid Waste Abatement Coordinator
APPROVAL OF NOVEMBER 20, 1984 ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. SVANDA, SECONDED BY MEt• GRONLUND, TO APPROVE THE NOVEMBER 20, 1984,
ENVIRONMENfAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES APPROVED AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIN6 AYE, CHAIRMAN NIELSEN DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
1. GUEST SPEAKER - NORM SCHIFERL ANOKA COUNTY SOLID WASTE ABATII�fENT COORDINATOR
Mr. Robinson stated that since the SOC per household money has become avail-
able, there is an even greater interest in some sort of recycling program.
Mr. Robinson asked Mr. Schiferl to explain the county's position in supporting
the city's efforts for a solid waste abatement program, especially curbside
recycling.
Mr.Schiferl gave the commission background on what the county is getting
involved in as part of the thrust of the Solid Waste Management Plan:
a. Landfill inventory - 3 sites have been selected £or a landfill in the
next few years•
b. The co�nty has issued a general abatement report in 1982 which was
followed by an action paper in June of this year which is committing
itself to a more detailed solid waste management plan.
c.� The county realized ttiat in order to get any reasonable kind of abatement
- plan they needed both a high tech (waste combustion facility) and low
tech (working with cities on source separation and composting programs).
Mr. Schiferl was hired to work on all ends of abatement which would
include working with the co�unities by offering technical assistance
in setting up low tech programs.
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 15, 1985 PAGE 2
d. The county has been required to turn out a waste stream analysis report.
e. The county has been working w3th NSP in looking into a 1,000/ton a day
RDF facility. What has pushed this issue is:
- 1. Hennepin County has qualified7 vendors; 6 mass burn and 1 RDF.
The requests for proposals are out and fizms will respond in
April. By mid-su�er, they will have to make a decision on who
they will choose.
2. Industrial Revenue Bonds - the county has gotten an allocation of
48 million dollars for a potential resource recovery program to be
started in 1984 which has been delayed until 1985.
Mr. Robinson asked Mr. Schiferl to summarize the relationship between Anoka
County and Hennepin County.
Mr. Schiferl stated tha[ Anoka and Hennepin County have made a formal resolution
to work together to explore the NSP project.
Mr. Schiferl stated that Anoka County has sent out a request for qualifications
for research recovery vendors to serve a 1,000/ton a day facility and/or to
handle Anoka County's waste which would be about 400/tons a day. By late Feb-
r uary or March they will have a better idea of what is out there and how they
will evaluate those proposals.
Mr, Wellan asked how the county is going to evaluate the proposals. What con-
sultant firms does the county have?
Mr. Schiferl stated that the county has three consultants: Pope, Reed Associates,
an engineering consultant; Briggs and Morgan Law Council; and Springsfield Asso-
dates, financial consultants.
Mr, Gronlund asked if the $48 million was an allocation by the state.
Mr. Schiferl stated that the money is bond money that the federal government
has put a cap on of $650 million total for research recovery. The county has
come up with a high estimate of $48 million of funding alloca[ion to be
reserved. 52 million is the state's allocation of which Anoka County has
48 million. No one else has put in an application.
Mr. Robinson asked if the county was theroetically split between a joint
effort with Hennepin County for a large facility through NSP or a smaller
400/ton a day facility which would be for Anoka County.
Mr. Schiferl stated that they did not have any proposals for a smaller facility
yet.
Mr. Wellan asked who would make the final decision in the county.
Mr. Schiferl stated that the County Board would make the major decisions.
Mr. Schiferl stated that the upshot of the Solid Waste Abatement Plan
is that the Metropolitan Council has to do two things by January 1, 1985.
1. Do a landfill abatement plan and incorporate that into the Solid Waste
Abatement Plan. 2. Development of a schedule of the facility for the future.
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 15 1985 PAGE 3
A hearing will be held on February 28, 1985 to decide whether or not to adopt
the draft. It entails some major changes for the future:
1. County is mandated to have specific objectives and timeline (by 1440, 12X
of waste is to be co-composted).
2. On the low tech end - thec6uncil is strongly encouraging source separation and
yard waste composting.
a. They want legislature to give them power to mandate source separation
(county snd city) by 1988.
b. By 1990, prohibit unprocessed waste from landfills.
Mr. Schiferl stated that organized collection is a problem and that the county is
looking into mandating organized collection.
Mr. Schiferl stated that once the draft would/might be adopted, the Solid Waste
Abatement Plan would have to be amended.
Mr. Schiferl stated that the county also has $.25 surcharge mnney of its own
($350,000 a year roughly) and is currently working on a policy for distributing
it. It might mean roughly $50,000-80,000 for muncipalities for landfill abatement
activities. A grant program is the initial recommendation. This would be in
addition to the $.50 per household surcharge money.
Mr. Robinson asked Mr. Schiferl what his opinion is as to whe[her the legislature
w311 back up the Metropolitan Counc3l.
Mr. Schiferl stated that from the rimmors he has heard it probably will �iot go
through. All seven counties have opposed the proposal for the following reasons:
1. Markets - are they there? what if they are flooded?
2. Enforcement issue.
3. What happens to combustibles?
� Mr. Svanda stated that it looked as if the county was pretty well se[ on the
high tech aspect. How would a proposal by cities such as Fridley for curbside
recycling mesh with county proposals for a 400/ton a day facility?
Mr. Schiferl stated that any program that co�unities would want to get involved
in, bhe county would be very supportive of. The only time where there would be
questions would be items that are both combustible and recyclable. He stated that
�Low and high tech are compatible.
Mr. Wellan asked what the cost for a 1,000/ton a day facility is.
Mr. Schiferl stated that MLnneapolis has a bond for $134,000,000 for a 1,000/ton
a day facility.
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 15, 1985 PAGE 4
Ms. Merriam asked if there was a recycling program set up, would i[ make a
difference in the amount of tonage that Anoka County would take.
Mr. Schiferl stated [hat whoever would set up a facility would be interested in
BTU's. He stated that experiences around the county have shown that where
there is a high tech facility set up with a recycyling program, there is little
effect on BTU's.
Mr. Robinson asked if recycling was more compatible with RDF or mass burn.
Mr. Wellan stated that he thought there is less problems with glass and cans
going into a mass burn facility.
Mr. Schiferl stated that with a high tech facility you need to be able to assure
the waste. This is very difficult in this area because there is so little
organized collection. Therefore, we might need some kind of waste designatfon
plant for flow control. One of the key things in flow control is that recyclables
are exempt so that if it never gets into the waste stream it is untouchable and
you have to prove to Met Council that you have allowed for a reasonable amount
of recycyling.
Ms. Merriam asked how the county is estimating flow con[rol now.
Mr. Schiferl stated that a waste s[ream analysis has been done. Anoica County
generates 362-482/tons a day (an estimated average that includes yard wastE),
Mr. Gronlund asked abou[ the status of the Washington Ramsey facility.
Mr. Schiferl stated that they have signed a contract with NSP. They will be
starting construction in 1987.
Mr. Robinson asked how you would enforce mandatory source separation.
Mr. Schifer stated that it could be enforced through publicity, education, fines,
clear bags, spot enforcement, etc.
Mr. Svanda asked if each city would need to have its own plan incorporated into
the county's plan. Mr. Schiferl stated that the county has 9 months to amend its
plan and that he did not have a schedule set up yet for specific cities.
Mr. Wellan asked if there are any guidelines to be concerned about.
Mr. Schiferl stated that there are none tt�at he is aware of. He stated that
anything done by individual cities would be supported.
Mr. Robinson asked why the county is not looking at a county-wide recycling
program.
Mr. Schiferl stated that that would be difficult because there is so little
organized collection.
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 15 1985 PAGE 5
Mr. Robinson inquired about the siatus of the $50,000-80,000 money that is maybe
available for research recoYery.
Mr. Schiferl stated thaC the proposal could be worked out in a month and
that the in3tial proposal would be a grant program with a cap of $70,000.
Mr. Robinson asked how the Twin City Metropolitan area is doing in compari-
son with other metropolitan areas in the nation.
Mr. Schiferl state that we are pretty advanced.
Mr. Gronlund asked if one of the proposals for curbside recycling in Fridley
has been approved.
Mr. Robinson stated that there has been no decision. Yet, the Council is still
reviewing the mattei.
Mr. Svanda asked Mr. Schiferl if he envisioned the county, in its plan,
requiring the city to do anything.
Mr. Schiferl stated that his guess is the county will strongly encourage
co�unities vithjoint cooperation in programs.
Mr. Svanda inquired about an ordinance in Fridley that bans backyard composting.
Mr. Robinson asked why the cities would be against mandatory source separation.
Mr. Schiferl answered with the following questions: "Do you need itY, Do you
want to enforce itY, Do you have organiaed collection to implement 3t?, What
are you going to do with all that stuff if you don't have a market for it in
town here?"
Mr. Wellan stated that other communities don't have any problem with it - 3t has
worked out quite well.
Mr. Schiferl stated that it depends on what your expectations are.
Mr. Svanda asked if we want the city to approve one of the proposals received
by Recyling Unlimited or SORT.
Mr. Robinson stated that the Public Works Director has suggested that we put
together a list of epecs and go with a request for proposals,
Hs. Svanda stated that he would not be that adverse to getting specs. He stated
that his concern would be getting them started early enough in the warm weather
season so that it runs for a while before the cold wea[her.
Mr. Wellan asked who was going to draft all the specs for this. He suggested
going to Minneapolis or St. Paul who have tried it before.
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COP4tISSION MEETlNG JANUAItY 15, 1985 PAGE 6
Mr. Svanda asked what would be wrong with going out with a RFP to get competition
with bids.
MOTION BY MR. PETERSON, SECONDED BY MR. SVANDA, THAT THE CITY AUTHORIZE STAFF
TO DEVELOP SPECIFICATIONS AND PUBLISH A REQUEST FOR A PROPOSAL FOR A CITY-WIDE
CURBSIDE RECYCLING PROGRAM. THAT COUNCIL TAKE ACTION AT THEIR JANUARY 28
BOARD MEETING AS WE WISH TO HAVE THE PROGRAM IMPLEMENTED JUNE 1, 1985.
UPQN A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON NIELSEN DECLARED TAE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2. OTHER BUSINESS:
Mr. Peterson requested that the co�ittee go over work plans at their
next meeting.
AD.IOURNMENT:
MOTION by Mr. Peterson, seconded by Mr. Svanda, to adjourn the meetfng. Upon
a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Nielsen declared the January 15, 1985,
Environmental Quality Commission meeting adjourned at 9:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
�Q-�2{,QC� 'k�'l!t-�Gjv
Denise Bosch
Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
ENERGY COMMISSION
MEETING
January 22, 1985
CALL TO ORDER•
�
Chairperson Saba called the January 22, 1985, Energy Co�ission meeting to order
at 7:40 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Presen[: Dean Saba, Brad Sielaff, Bruce Bondow, Dale Thompson
Meml`er Absent:
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Others Present:
Glen Douglas
Susan Merriam, Planning Department
APPROVAL OF NOVEMBER 27 1984, ENERGY CO*AtISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY HR. BONDOW, S£C�NDED BY MR, THQMPSON, TO APPROVE THE NOVEMBER 27, 1984,
MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SABA DECIARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
1. DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE WEATHERIZATION PROGRAM
Ms. Merriam informed the commission of the following workshops:
a. Neighborhood Energy Workshop - City of Richfield - Sat., Jan. 26, 1985, 9:00
a.m. at 70th and Nicollet.
b. Neighborhood Energy Workshop - Sat., Feb. 9, 8:40 a.m. at Bottineau Park,
2000 2nd St. NE
c. Operation Insulation -�hurs., Feb. 14 - 7:00 p.m. - Folwell Park, 1615
Dovling No.
The commission decided to attend the February 9 Neighborhood Energy Workshop.
2. OTHER BUSINESS:
A. GRANT FROM DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
tir. Saba sta[ed that he protested that the City of Fridley did not get in on the
program because of the stiff requirements. (The city must nave an official
Energy Council consisting of: Labor; Small business; Senior Citizens;
Volunteer Organizations; and low-moderate income citizens.)
Mr. Bondow stated that their organization is open to any of these.
Ms. Merriam stated tiiat they need to have a representative of each graup.
EKERGY CODPfIS5I0N MEETING JANUARY 22 1985 PAGE 2
Mr. Saba sta[ed that he thought that the co�ission does a be[ter job of
representing the geogzaphical locations in the city.
Ms. Herriam stated that she thought they could take a liberal interpreta-
tion of the requirements.
Mr. Sie2aff asked if we could approach the state and explain how our com-
mission is set up and express an interest in the program.
Mr. Saba s¢ated that he was afraid that if we made the effort to get that
represen[ation we would have people involved with nothing to do. The reason
the people are on the commission nov is because of [heir expertise and
interest.
Ms. Merriam stated that Blaine's co�ission Was cteated in November, 1983
and Moundsview in February of 1984. Blaine s[ar[ed with a membership of
7 and increased it to 11. She stated that she thought they were going for
the representation when they developed the co�issions. .
Mr. Bondov suggested setting up some kind of sub co�uittee.
Mr. Bondow also suggested listing S organizations within those categories
and sending them a questionnaire and have them name a representative.
Mr. 5ixiafi stated that it bo[hered him to make a committee to get money
for which there is no real role to play.
Mr. Thompson s[a[ed their input could be hov the money would be spent.
Mr. Saba stated that input could be made as to different energy programs.
Ms. Merriam stated that other funds come from matching grants from Minne-
gasco, NSP, Anoka Co�unity Action Program and the city has to put up
lOX.
Mr. Saba suggested that tbe lOX city share come from the Community Develop-
ment Block Grant money.
Mr. Sielaff asked how much time there is to put something together.
Ms. Merriam stated that ahe was unaware oF a deadline. We could put together a
grant proposal for spring.
Mr. Saba stated thet we could make up a project co�ittee to help implement
the neighborhood energy workshop concept.
Mr. Sielaff asked if we are going to be looking at individuals in these
classifications or representatives of organizations that are in this
classification.
Ms. Merriam suggested involving members of the Environmental Quality Commission.
Ms. Merriam stated she did not think the co�ission members had to disclose
salaries as a requirement for the money.
ENERGY COMPSISSION MEETING JANUARY 22 1985 PAGE 3
Mr. Saba suggested advertising in the city nevsletter for some type of
interest in helping organize a enezgy workshop. '_
Hr. Saba stated that one thing the money could do is pay for a full or part-
time staff to coordinate vorkshops.
Mr. Saba also stated that he thought the co�ission should attend the
workshop first and at their next meeting make some decision.
Hs. Merriam stated that in the meantime ve should be thinking of vays of
soliciting people to serve on the co�iesion.
Mr. Bondow stated that he felt fairly strong about sending out questionnaires
to accomplish that.
Ms. Saba asked what the maximum grant would be.
Ms. Merriam stated $15,000.
Mr. Saba stated ihat he strongly reco�ends the commission seek CDBG funds.
Ms. Merriam s[ated that the co�ission at some point will need to make a
formal resolution to apply for a grant.
Ms. Saba stated that it is the consensus of the commission to apply for
the grant from 2he Department of Energy and Economic Development and attend
the Neighborhood Energy Workshop on February 9 at 8:30 and to invi[e Mr.
Robinson to attend.
B. CITY OF FRIDLEY'S PROPOSED CURBSIDE RECYCLING PROGRAM
Ms. Merriam showed the commission a comparison chart of different city's
recycling programs.
Mr. Saba stated that there are a lot of civic groups 1n Fridley looking
for a co�unity service project to get involved in.
Ms. Merriam stated that you need to have people that are dependable.
Mr. Saba asked vhat effect the program would have on SORT.
Hs. Merriam stated that experience has shown little effect on other local
zecycling programs.
Mr. Saba asked Ms. Merriam to put a chart together regarding other city's
energy programs. T;:e cciarc xould be made up of the following information:
cities, co�unity involvement, commission struc[ure, city staff support and
f unding, grants, success - how long has the program been effec[ive, volunteer
groups, unsuccessful plans, goals, current activities, and partfcipation rates.
ENERGY CODAtISSION MEETING, JANUARY 22, 1985 PAGE 4
MOTION by Mr. Thompson, seconded by Mr. Bondow, Because recycling solid
vaste materials represents a significant energy savings and the Metro-
politan Council has established a fotmal plan which requires separation
� of recyclables aftet 1987, the Energy Commission hereby eupports the
Environmental Quality Commission recycling program proposal and urges
the City Council to proceed with the plan.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Saba declared the motion
carried unanfmous2y.
C. RENTAL REHAB GRANT
Ms. Merriam stated that one apartment building has been funded on 5644
4th St. The ltems to be updated are all energy related. There are two
othet parties interested in the grant.
The grant can be applied for again because of the lack of applications
the firet time.
D. CARBON MONOXIDE MONITOR
Mr. Saba suggested [hat all the ca�nission membezs try the monitor out
for effectiveness and that it would be nice to test it with the fire
department's monitor. '
11r. Thompson stated that anything that has a level of 425 ppm will set
i[ off and [hat it can be used and mounted like a smoke detector.
Mr. Bondov suggested sending out a fol2ov-up questionnaire [o the people
the badges had been sent to.
Mr. Sielaff suggested putting an article ih the city newsletter stating
what the badges aze and that they are available.
E. "HOUSE FOR ALL SEASONS"
Mr. Bondow stated that he will try to arrange for this show to be run on
cable.
ADJOURNMENT:
KOTION BY MR. SIELAFF, SECONDID BY MR. THOMPSON, TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CNAIRPERSON SABA DECLARED THE JANUARY
22, 1985, ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:20 p.m.
Respectfuliy submitted,
Denise $osch, Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETINr,, �ANUARY 29, 1985
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Gabel called the January 29, 1985, Apneals Commission meeting to
order at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Pat Gabel, Alex Barna, Jim Plemel, Jean Gerou, Donald Betzold
Members Absent: None
Others Present: Darrel Clark, City of Fridley
Jean Murdock, 7726 Morgan Ave. S., Richfield
Rod & Qorothy Brannon, 1622 Innsbruck Parkway W.
Tom & M. Brickner, 1A41 Rice Creek Rd.
APpROVAL OF JANUARY 15, 1985, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MO^_'ZON BY lII2.�BAA,NA, SECONDED BY MS. GEROU� TO APPP.OVE THE JIWUARY I5� Z985,
APPEALu^ COMMISS_TON MINUTES AS WRI_TTEN.
UPON A VOICE S�OTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIR°ERSON GABEL DECLARED TNE MOTZON
CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. REQUEST FOR VARIANCES ON A LOT SURROUNDED BY STREET RIGHTS OF WAY PURSUANT
Item remained on the table.
APPEALS COMMI55ION MEETING, JANUARV 29, 1985 PAGE 2
2. REQUEST FDR VARIANCES PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 205 OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE TO
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MOTION BY MB. GEROU� SECONDED BY MR. BRRNA� TO RE'MOPE TNIS ITEM FROM
THE TABLE.
UPON A VDICE VOTE� ALL VOTSNG AYE� CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MO"'IOIJ
CARRIED UNAIJIMOUSLY. .
Ms. Gabel read the amended Administrative Staff Report:
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
765 - 53rd Avenue N.E.
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY RE�UIREMENT:
Section 205.15.3A requires a minimum lot area of 35,OOQ square feet
under one ownership.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to avoid the condition of
overcrowding of a commercial area.
Section 205.15,3C.1 requires an eighty foot front yard setbacl: for all
permitted buildings.
Pu61ic purpose served by this requirement is to provide desired front
yard space to be used for green areas on access and to add to the
attractability of a commercial zone,
Section 205.75.3C,3 requires a minimum rear yard of not less than 40 feet.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to provide adequate open
space around commercial structures for aesthetic and fire-fighting
purnoses.
Section 214.11.2C limits a free-standing sign to a maximum height of
25 feet above the finished ground grade.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to control visual pollution
and excessive use of signs in comnerciaT areas.
APPEALS COhiMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 29, 19$5 PAGE 3
B. STATED HARDSHIP;
"The small size of this pronertv and the low elevation from Central
Avenue requires reduced setbacks and increased pylon sign height."
C. ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW:
This proposal for a 4,500 square foot building includes a Pickwich
Bookstore and one other small business. Along with the nroperty's C-3
zoning are the following variances:
1. Lot area from 35,000 square feet to 22,160 square feet.
2, front yard setback from 80 feet to 65 feet.
3. Rear yard setback from 40 feet to 5 feet.
4. Sign height from 25 feet to 35 feet.
Plan submitted is a reorientation of petitioner's original building
plan done at the City's request in order to eliminate a front vard
setback variance.
The sign height variance is requested due to the approximatelv 10 foot
of elevation differential between his aroperty and the adjacent �
Petroleum ooeration. Petitioner has stated that the sign would be
35 feet high or equal to the Q Petroleum sign height, whichever is less.
V3riance for lot area, front yard setback and rear yard setback for a
different proposal for this site were approved in Mav 1984.
Mr. Clark stated that the variances were pu6lished in such a wav so that
there was some flexibility. The front yard setback was published at 80 ft.
to 65 ft.; the rear yard setback at 40 ft. to 5 ft. As discussed at the last
meeting� it sounded like it was the feeling of the Appeals Commission that
there be a front yard variance from 80 ft, to 75 ft. and a rear yard setback
from 40 ft. to 10 ft.
Ms. Jane Murdick, 7726 Morgan Ave. S„ stated she was renresenti�g the
petitioner, Norman Brody, who was unable to be at the meeting. She stated
that in discussions with Mr. Brodv, the rear yard setback becominq 10 ft.
and the front yard setback becoming 75 ft. were agreeable taith him.
Mr. Clark stated one other thing discussed at the Jan. 15th Appeals Commission
meeting was the possibility of relocating the refuse dumpster from the north-
west corner of the property to somewhere within the retaining wall along the
east side of the property.
Ms. Murdock stated the relocation of the dumpster was discussed with their
architect and Mr. Brody, The,y both felt if the dumpster was put along the
east side of the property, the truck would have to come into the parking lot,
APPEALS CONIdISSIO�J MEETING, JA�JUARY 29, 1985 PAGE 4
and they felt it might be a hazard for the dumpster to be in that location,
This presented a far less traffic pattern for the truck than on the east side.
The location of the dumpster where it is now along the northwest corner could
be screened from the neighbor to the north or the building could be continued
as part of the screening in the rear. The truck could then come in, pick up
the refuse, and leave. However, Mr. Brody indicated he would do whatever
was desired by the City.
Mr. Rod Brannon, the property owner to the north, stated that regarding the
dumpster lor.ation, it was not just tf�e matter of aestfietics, There was quite
a bit of paper that blows down from the Embers Restaurant dumpster which is
screened also. There are things that could blow out of the dumpster that
could become an additiona] nuisance for them to clean uo, Even if the dumo-
ster is screened, he would still have all his customers driving by the
screened dumpster. His preference would be to have the dumpster located
along the southeast corner of the propertv.
Mr. Brannon stated f�e would recommend that in the Apoeals Cortrnission's final
action it is made clear that there is some type of bulkheading occur during
the excavation in order to protect his property, trees, and the light pole.
Mr. Brannon stated that since there was some latitude within the oublishinq
of the variances, he would like to recommend that the variance be 15 ft. from
the north property 7ine so they can landscape and make the area as aesthetic
as possible.
Mr. Clark stated that if there was 15 ft. in the rear, it would leave only
10 ft. for landscaoing between 53rd and the parking iot, There was also a
sidewalk that runs along 53rd Ave.
Mr. Barna stated he was not so tdorried about the amount of qreen space. He
would be more concerned that there be some type of either landscaoing or
retaining wall to prevent anyone fron falling from the sidewalk onto the park-
ing lot, especially in the winter time when the sidewalk becomes slippery.
Ms. Gabel stated that with previous requests for variances on this piece af
property, they have been fairly consistent with a 70 ft, rear yard variance.
Ms. Burdock stated that the engineer's report that was given to Jim Robinson
of the Plannin�q Department said that at 10 ft. there should be no problem
to Mr. Brannon s property.
Mr. Plemel stated he did not kno4r how the dumpster could be hidden into the
retaining wall so it could be used. It was like asking the petitioner to put
a dumpster in his front yard. Mr. Plemel stated he would not like a dumpster
in his front yard.
Mr. Barna stated he could understand the comment made by Ms. Burdock about
the truck having to drive through the parking lot to get to the dumqster.
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 29, 1985 PAGE 5
Ms. Burdock stated if Mr. Brannon was concerned about paper flying out of
the dumpster, screening was one thing, but an enclosure was another thinG,
and an enclosure would control the paper from flving around.
Mr. Brannon stated that if the dumpster was in the northwest corner of the
property, then it would be in his front yard, Every customer driving into
_ his business would drive within 10 ft. of the dumpster. Maybe this problem
could be reconciled if Mr. Brody was agreeable to extending the wall of the
building in the same building material so the dum�ster would fit between
the building and two additional walls which would literally screen the dump-
ster from his customers and would not be visible from his building.
Ms. 6abe1 stated there really was not an aporooriate olace on the lot to
hide a dumpster and so it was easily accessible to the refuse truck. However,
if the screening was done properly, it did not have to be displeasinn.
Ms. Burdock stated the petitioner was certainly willing to work with the Citv
and Mr. Brannon on appropriate screening for the dumpster.
Mr, Brannon stated he was still more in favor of 15 ft. rear yard setback as
opposed to 10 ft. He would like to get the sewer line as far away from his
Qroperty line as possible.
MO�ZON BY MR. BARITA, SECOND6D BY MS. GEROU, TO CIASE TIIE PUBLIC HEARING.
UP0f7 A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CXASRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING CLOSED RT 8:00 P,M,
Mr. Betzold stated he had reviewed the minutes of the May 15, 1984, Appeals
Comnission meeting, as well as the minutes of the Jan. 15th meeting. He
felt they were still in the same situation where they were trying to make the
best out of this particular lot. He did not see why they could not continue
with the same rationale as before. Hr. Brannon had asked the Comnission to
consider having the rear yard variance at 15 ft. as ooposed to 10 ft.
Mr. Betzold stated he did not think I�e was willing to consider that because
of the boulevard area, the sidewalk, easements, etc., plus the possibility
of blocking vision. He would be in favor of granting the variances with the
10 ft. rear yard setback plus the stipulations regarding landscaoing, possible
i•ocation of the dumpster, and soil retention.
Mr. Barna stated he would agree. If they went to 15 ft. in the rear yard,
it would bring the southeast corner of the oarkinq lot quite close to the
sidewalk, At the southeast corner, it vrould 6ecome quite steep and would be
a matter of either extending the retaining wall or putting in some type of
safety device whicfi would add the expense from one side if the lot to the
other side of the lot. The 10 ft. rear yard setback did not bother him as
iong as the petitioner was restricted to work for soil retention, which was
Mr. Brannon's main concern. He was sure the petitioner would be willina to
work with Mr. Brannon on the stipulations they had made for the last proposal.
APPEALS COMMI55ION MFETING, JANUARY 29, 1985 PAGE 6
Ms, Gerou stated she was in favor of granting the variances. She thought
Mr. Brody was very cooperative and would be a good neighbor to work with,
She thought the plan for the lot was good, and she agreed with the 10 ft,
rear yard setback that was agreed upon for the last pr000sal.
Mr. Plemel also stated he was in favor of granting the variances.
The Conmissioners concurred with the variance for the sign height, They
realized Mr. Brody did need the exposure. The way the lot was situated
with the steep hi)1, and considering the main traffic arterv was on
Central Ave., they felt it would be equitable for Mr. Brody to have a high
sign because of the location of his property.
Ms. Gabel stated she was basically in agreement with what has been said.
Mr. Plemel stated he felt the northwest corner was the best location for
the dumpster with proper screening.
MpTZON BY MR. BETZOLD� SECONDED BY PII2, BARNA, TO RECOMMElID TO CITY COi7JCSL
APPROVAL OF REpUESS FOR VARZAf7CE5 PURSUANT TO CIfAPTER 205 OF TFIE FRIDLEY
CITY CODE TO REDUCE THE IA^_' SIZE FROM 35,000 SQUARE FEET TO 22�160 SQURRE
FEF,T; TO REDUCE THE REQUZRED RERI2 YARD ST.TBACK FRON 40 FEF.T TO IO FEET; TO
REDUCE TXE REQUIRED FRONT YARD SETBACK FROM 80 FEET TO 75 FEET� AND RNOTHER
VARIANCE pURSUN7T TO CHAPTER 214 TD ZNCREASE THE MAXIMUM SIGN HEIGH:^ FROM
25 FEET TO 35 FEET� BUT TO BE NO HIGHER TNAN TNE Q PETROLEUFf SIGTI, ON IAT .2,
BLOCK I, TARGET RDDITSQV� TNE SAME BEIlJG 1076 W. COUNTY ROAD B, ROSEVILLE,
MN. 55421� WITH THE FOLZAWING STSPULATIONS;
1. THE PETSTTONER DEAfONSTRASE TO THE CZTY THAT SOIL RETENTSON HAS
BEEN MADE TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTN,
2. THE PESZTIONER CJORK G77TH THE PROPERTY OWNER TO TNE NORTH P1VD THE
CZTY TO DEVEZOP A LANDSCAPZIJG PLAN, TD INCLUDE TFiE LOCATIDN OF THE
DUMPSTER,TO ENHANCE 2HE NORTHERLY SECTION OF THE BUILDING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE IdOTZOt7
CARRSED Ul1ANIMDUSLY.
3, REQUEST FOR VARIA
NG
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MOTION BY MS. GEROU� SECOI7DED BY MR. BARNA� '!'0 OPEN THE PUBLIC NEARISIG.
UPON A YOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHRIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN AT 8:I0 P,M.
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, 3ANUARY 29, 1985 PAGE 7
Chairperson Gabel read the Administrative Staff Report:
ADMIF�ISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
6250 Highway #65 N.E.
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREME�IT:
Section 205.15.3C.1 requires an eighty foot front yard setback for all
permitted buildings.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to provide desired front
yard space to be used for green areas on access and to add to the
attractability of a commercial zone.
B. STATED HARDSHIP:
"Variance is needed to line up the proposed structure with adjacent
buildings."
C. ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW:
All other buildings in this block are at this 55 foot setback or
closer. The staff suggests that both lots be combined into one tax
parcel. No other stipulations are suggested,
Mr. Clark stated the Commissioners had an aerial photo and the buildinq plot
plan, The proposed project would line up with the other buildings and would
behind the service station to the north. Mr. Brickner wi11 be landscaping
the whole 55 ft. rather than using it for a parking lot. He believed
Mr. Brickner was going to build in two phases.
Mr. Brickner stated he planned to build condo offices. He needed the variance
in order to line up the proposed structure with the adjacent buildings so he
can have good exposure to Nighway 65, The area wi71 be landscaped and will
look nice. He planned the construction in two phases. The first building
will be constructed in the spring; and depending on how sales go, he would
probably expand to the back for the second phase,
MD'!'701J BY MR. PLEMEL, SECONDEA BY M5. GEROU� 2Y� CLOSE TXE PUBLIC HEARING.
UPON A VOSCE VOTE� ALL VOTSNG AYE� CHAIRFERSO[7 GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLZC
NEARZNG CIASED AT 8:20 P.M, ,
Mr. Plemel stated because this seemed to be in the common benefit of both
the City and the property owner, he would be in favor of recommendinq approval
of the variance.
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 29, 1985 PAGE 8
MOTZON BY MR. PLEMEL� SECONDED BY MS. GEROU� TO RECOMMEND Z� CITY COUNCZL
APPROVAL OF A REQUEST FOR VARIANCE pURSUANT TO CXRPTER 205 OF THE FRIDLEY
CITY CODE TO REDUCE TNE FRONT YARD SETBACK FR014 80 FEET TO 55 FEET TO iSNE
iTP WITH AA7ACENT BUILDINGS Ckl LOT 1� BLOCK 1� HERWAL 2ND ADDITIQ'J � TffE
SAME BEZNG 6250 HIGHWAY k65, FRIDLEY, MN. 55432� WZTH TNE FOLLOWIt7G
STIPULATIONS:
1, BOTH LOTS BE COMBINED INTO ONE TAX PARCEL.
2. THE PP.OPERTY QV THE EAST BE LANDSCAPED AND NOT BE USED FOR
PARKING LOT.
Regarding the stipulation that both lots be combined into one tax parcel,
Mr. Brickner stated he would like the opportunity to check this out from
a 1ega1 standpoint and a tax standpoint to see �vhether it would be more
advantageous for him to combine the lots or leave them as individual lots.
Ms: Gabel stated that if this stipulation causes a problem for Mr. Brickner,
he should discuss this with the Citv Council.
UPON A[�OICE Vl7TE, ALL VOTING AYE, CXAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED TXE MOTIDN
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
4. OTHER BUSINESS:
a. Possible Revision of Sign Ordinance (Memo from Jim Robinson dated
f� Nov. 11, 1985)
Mr. Robinson's memo stated that the primary concerns Staff felt needed
addressing were:
1. The status of a sign variance upon replacement of the structure
change of tenant or owner.
2. The status of Tega1 non-conforming signs upon chanqe of tenant
or owner, particularly when part of an overall sign plan.
3. The restriction of free-standing pylon sign size to 80 square feet
in area.
In response to these three issues, Staff was considering the follotaing
solutions respectively:
1. The tightening of sign variance duration to the immediate sign
and tenant/owner.
2. Removal of legal non-conforming status upon change of name displayed
upan sign.
3. Revising the total square footage for a free-standinq sign area
allowed per development to be more sensitive to the wide range of
development types (i.e. multiple tenant center vs singular operations)
and total area of the lot and/or structure.
Ms. �abel stated she thought the Appeals Comnission was 6asically in
agreement with pl.
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, JANUARY 29, 1985 PAr,E 9
Mr. Barna stated this was discussed at the last Planning Commission
meeting. On the status of a sign variance, the Planning Commission
felt it should be tied in with the ownership of the business. For
example, if a business changes hands or the business changes, then
the variance was no longer valid and the owner of the business would
have to reapp7y for the variance.
Mr. Betzold stated it was interesting to note that normally variances
are talked about with the real property and variances do travel with
the property regardless of who the owner is. Now when they add the sign
part to it, it becomes personal, but signs do not normally travel with
the property anyway, Ne felt it pro6ably made more sense to follow that
through and say that it is sonething that is granted
as a personal right as opposed to a property right. He was a little
concerned about the situation where someone was buying a business, was
not changing anythinq on the sign, but would still have to come in for
a variance. He supposed that would at least keep the Appeals Comnission
and the City aware of what the signs are. The Commission would probablv
recognize the hardship in a situation like this and grant the variance.
Mr. Clark stated this was something that was going to be very hard to
monitor, The City does not always know when businesses change ownership,
Mr. Betzold stated they have to be careful to make sure this is an
ordinance they can enforce; otherwise, the City will be doing some very
se?ective enforcements, and Some business owr,ers will have legitimate
gripes. Maybe something that sho�ild be tacked onto this is that a change
in ownership by itself is not going to affect a sign variance. At such
time as the owner wants to change the sign for whatever reason, then a
variance is required. Of course, the change of business would be easier
to monitor than change in ownership.
Ms. Gabe1 stated that what she was understandinq froM the memo was that
the City wants to tie the variance absolutely with the owner.
Mr. Barna stated maybe they should say, "the variance would become void
upon change of sign message with change of ownership or tenant". for
example, if the business changes or the tenant changes and the message
on the sign is changed, then the sign variance was no longer valid. But,
if the new owner keeps the original sign, then the variance would still
be valid, So, what they are doing is tying in the change of the sign to
the change of ownership or tenancy.
Mr. Betzold stated that Item #2 would consider the situation of a present
owner of a business who wants to change d sign.
Mr. Clark stated a legal non-conforming sign was different than a sign
with a variance. When a variance is granted for a sign, then the sign
becomes legal.
APpEALS COMMISSI��d MEETINr,, JANUARY 29, 1985 PAGE 10
Ms. Gabel stated the problem Item #2 was addressinq was strictly on
the signs that have been granted variances, the business still wants
a big sign, but the sign is less than the original variance.
Mr. Clark stated maybe the best way to handle #2 would be that when
the message on a sign with a variance changes or the sign is destroyed,
then it becomes a legai non-conforming, and the business might have to
come back in f�r a variance. He stated the only problem with that would
be if there was a big wind storm where 80% of the signs in Fridlev blew
down and 20% of those signs had variances. Ali those businesses would
have to come back in and app]y for variances again.
Ms. Gabel stated that might be something they want to do in order to
clean up the signs in Fridley.
Mr. Clark stated he felt Item N2 was already addressed in the sign code.
Mr. Barna stated that regarding Item #3, the Planning Cortmission had
also discussed this. Mr. Robinson had an ordinance from another cortmunity
that put things on a ratio of total square footage of businesses and
business space in a development. For examp7e, with the Skywood Mall,
they would have figured out the total business square footage and the
shopping center could have up to but not beyond a maximum of Z00 sq. ft.
in signage. The Planning Corr�ission felt that signage based on total
number of business square footage was acceptable.
Ms. �abei stated she was opposed to that because: (1) There wasn't a
significant amount of land left in the Citv to develop large commercial-
type shoppinq centers; and (2) In workinq on the Sign Ordinance a number
of vears ago, she learned that people in the community do not want large
signs. Ms. Gabel stated she would rather have peoole come in for variances
when they need larger signs than to allow people to put up signs based
on square footage.
Mr. Clark stated that if that was the feeling of the Commission and they
were willing to be flexible in going over variance requests, then this
might not be a problem. He stated several large operations in Fridley
have gotten variances already. Was it still realistic to keen the
restriction at 80 sq. ft.?
Mr. 6etzold stated that some of the larger businesses, such as LaMaur,
Target, and Onan have such wide pieces of property that they need larger
signs in order to be seen because the signs are so much farther away from
a road or freeway, He felt that in those situations, the Appeals Commission
has found the hardship based on that,and he did not think the code should
be chan9ed to such a point where a building that has a iot of �enants
needs a larger sign. But, if there is a large tract of land and the siqn
is going to be a certain distance from the road and a larger sign is
needed, then that can be addressed.
APPEALS COMMISSIOt� MEETING, JANUARV 29, 1985 PAGE 11
Ms. Gabel stated she agreed with that. That was why 'she had said that
if there was a 1ot of commercial land in Fridley left to be developed,
they might need to be concerned about that and she could see changing
the code to address that, But, by o�erating the wav they have, she
felt they have been very fair in recognizing the needs of different
businesses and they have beert flexible in qranting the variances where
there was a hardship. Her concern was that if they tailor the code to
address the square footage of a shopping center, they are qoinq to have
a nroliferation of signage in areas where they currently do not have it,
do not need it, and where probably the community does not want it. If
they continue the way they have, she did not think they would have a great
deal of variances.
Mr. Plemel stated he felt the Comnission has looked at variance requests
quite realistically. He thought they should leave the restriction at
80 sq. ft. That gives the Commission a chance to look over everv request.
He did think it was kind of unreasonable to allow Skvwood Mall three signs
at a total of 80 sq, ft., but he believed the Commission had recognized
that fact and had granted the variances.
Mr. Barna stated he could see wanting to keep control of this. Ne agreed
with Ms. Gabel that they did not have that many more places for larqe
development for large signs.
Ms. Gerou stated she was also in agreement.
Ms. Gabel stated she would like Staff to take the Appeals Cortmission's
anA Planninq Commission's cmm�ents and prepare thi�se parts of the code
in draft form to be brought back to the Comnissions.for review.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTIQV BY lIIZ. BETZOLD� SECONDED BY MP.. BANI7A� TO ADJOURN TKE ME6TItTG. UPON A
VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE JANUARY 29� 1985,
APPEALS COMMISSION MEESING RDJOURNED AT 9:15 p.dl,
Resp ctfully submi, ted,
'Y' �-i''�l_
ynne a a
Recording Secretary
CITY Of FRIDLEY
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
MEETING
FEBRUARY 4. 1985
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Kondrick called the February 4. 1985. Parks & Recreation Commission
meetinq to order at 7:35 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Menbers Present: Dave Kondrick, Mary Schreiner, Dick Young, Dan Allen,
Bruce Nelson
Menbers Absent: None
Others Present: Charies Boudreau. Parks 8 Recreation Director
Jack Kirk, Program Director
Siah St. Clair, City Naturalist
(See attached list)
APPROVAL OF DECEMBER 18, 1980, PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES:
MO^ION BY MR. YDUNG� SECOl)DED BY MR. ALLEfJ� TD APPROVE mHE DEC. 28� 1984, PRRKS 6
RECREATION COMMZSSION MINU^ES AS WHITTEN.
DPOH A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE� CNAIRPERSON KONDRICX DECLARED TNE MOTION
CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
The following item was added ta the agenda under "Other Susiness":
a. Communication from A1 Kordiak regarding frant Money for
Dbissipoi Riv8r8rant=�slands of Peace Park
MO'_"ZON BY IiS. SCHREINSR� SECONDED BY 1�II2. NELSON� ^_'O APPROVE THE AGENDA AS
AMENDED AND TXAT ZTEM 2-8� ICE ZACATSON AT HARRIS LARE� BE MOVED TO ITEM NO, 1
QV TXE AGENDR.
UPON A VOICE VQTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECZIIRED TNE HOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. ICE LOCATION AT HARRIS LAKE:
Ms. Karen 3mith, 1635 Mississippi St., stated she had prepared a statement
that represented not only the aromen present at tfie meeting, but the husbands
at home babysitting and the people who could not be at the meeting because
of other activities.
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSIOtd MEETING, FEBRUARY 4, 1985 PAGE 2
Ms. Smith stated a large number of children and adults have enjoyed ice
skating on Harris Lake by Harris Park. Cast year the ice was not cleared;
therefore not used. But this year a neighbor with a plow in front of his
_ pick-up truck has been clearing a very large area that has been used by
children and adults for free skating and unorganized hockey. She stated
they had taken petitions around to people in the areas around Harris Park,
and the reaction was almost all supportive. Many people feel they live in a
forgotten part of Fridley.
Ms. Smith stated having an ice skating area on Harris Lake can only benefit
the residents. By clearing a large area, adults do not feel intimidated by
faster skaters and feel they can take small children on the ice. Skaters who
play hockey stay in one area and are careful of other skaters. She stated
Harris Park is used by walkers and parents who drive their children to the
nark.
Ms. Smith stated they are requesting that a large area (approx. 180 ft. by
250 ft.j of Harris Lake be kept clear of snow bv the Citv. She stated the
City would only have to blow or brush off the snow for most of the upkeep,
because the thawing and refrsezing smooths the ice. If it should snow before
refreezing, it could be plowed and sprayed with water the few times this would
happen.
Ms. Smith stated that once the ice is kept clear and oublished for open skating,
it will be used even more. They feel it is the City's responsibility to the
residents to maintain the park for all seasons' sports, not just for the summer.
Ms. Smith stated one other comment she would like to make was that the signs
for "thin ice" have not been properly maintained. Those signs are still up
since early winter freezing and thawing; therefore, when the spring thaw does
come, the children may not pay any attention to these signs they have seen
all winter.
Ms. Sthith presented the petitions to the Cortanissioners. She stated there
was approximately 123 signatures.
MOTSON BY MS, SCXREINER� SECONDED BY lNR, YOUNG, TO RECEIVE PETITIONS NO.Z-$5
R$QUESPING THAT THE CITY OF FRIDLEY MATNTAIN A SKATING AREA ON HARRZS POND.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE� CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE MOTICN
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr, Kondrick asked for Staff's point of view regarding this request.
Dr. Boudreau stated the policy was made and passed last year by the Park &
Recreation Comnission that the City should not maintain any natural bodies of
water. The thought behind this was that once they maintain an area and say it is
for general ice skatinq or for whatever purpose in parks and recreation, the Cit.y
is then responsible for that area and the City has a liability, So, no matter
when a person would go out on the lake, if they were to fall through the ice.
the City wouid be liable because they had designated the area for ice skatinq.
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY`4 1985 PAGE 3
Dr. Boudreau stated the City quit maintaining an ice skating area at Moore
Lake several years ago, He stated about three years ago, the City did clear
a spot on Harris Lake to fill a void in the Rice Creek/Harris Lake area.
They also ha d the park foreman drill holes to make sure the. ice was safe
' before the City went on the ice to clear it.
Dr. Boudreau stated he would like it on record that he would urge the
Parks & Recreation Commission to stay with the policy estahlished because of
the safety factor involved. The City cannot control the thoughts of children
or adults going onto an ice area, and for the safety reasons for the parti-
cipants,the maintenance personnel� and equipment, he would urqe that this
policy be upheld,
Ms. Smith stated Harris Lake was a man-made lake� not a natural bodv of water.
At the most, it was 8 ft. deeo. They could not even com�are it to Moore Lake
which even now has some open water. She would not consider Moore Lake at all
or a lot of other areas for ice skating. but this is definitely a residential
man-made shallow body of water within a large area of houses that has no other
piace for skating. The City might be considering sanethinq for Rice Creek,
but that is such a small area that it is going to end un just for that new
development. She stated that if the City was so afraid of children getting
hurt, why was Harris Park built on the lake? The children could walk into the
water any time.
Mr. Kondrick stated he fioped the residents understood tfiat they were reallv
afraid of someone getting hurt, and that there was a liabil9ty factor.
One resident stated it was her understanding that Harris Lake was fed by storm
sewers alone. There was very little activity in the storm sewers durinq the
winter so basically the lake was a still, shallow body of water with orobably
a minimum of 18-24 in. of ice. She would think there was certainly a level at
which the risk of anvthing, vehictes or people, going through the ice was very
minimal, The City does not have to go out there in November when there is only
2 in, of ice, but there must be a point by Jan. and Feb. where the ice would
be considered very safe. 3he thought it was unfair for the Commission to
consider all natural bodies of water as the same, because a stable bod.y of
water and a river are certainly not the same. It would be only fair for the
Comnission to consider each area individual7y.
Ms. Smith stated she could �nderstand the concern of the Co�nission about
someone falling through and drowning, but she could not see why there was more
of a risk for clearing Harris Lake for ice skating than there was a risk for
a lot of other activities provided in other recreational areas.
Mr. Young stated he grew up in Calumbia Heights, and there is a body of water
in Columbia Heights by Apache Plaza called Hart Lake. He skated on that lake
for many years. but one year when he was 12 years old, he went through the ice
in late Dec./early Jan. He did not know why he went through the ice, but all
af a sudden there was a soft spot. Fortunately. he was with someone and did
not go under the ice, but it was a very traumatic experience.
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSIdN MEETTNr,, FEBRUARY 4, 1985 PArE 4
Mr. Young stated one of the problems with ice on a natural body of water is
it is not always going to be nice and smooth like it is this year, That can
bring about more problems with liability. If someone was injured on one of the
_ City's rinks because it was poorly maintained because the ice was pitted and
cracked, and the City could be shown to be negligent, then there was more
liability invo]ved. At the present time, all the rinks in the City of Fridley
are all flooded with a tank truck. not with a man and a hose. Maybe there
would be a time when the residents would want the City to come in and flood
a sheet of ice over the top because the ice was unskateable, and he could not
see the City driving this big tank truck onto the ice. The City dropned some
trucks into Moare Lake before there were any ariators.
Ms. Schreiner stated she was also concerned about something or someone fallinq
through the ice. Her other concern was they do have another man-made lake at
the new community park, As far as the poticy is concerned, if they did decide
to clear Harris Lake for skating, they couid very easily get requests for the
same thing from the residents by the comnunity park. 7hey did have a group of
residents who came before the Commission about a year ago asking for the possi-
bility of using that man-made lake for skating. The Commission reco�nended
putting in a rink at Jay Park as an alternative because of the safety factor.
Locke Lake was another area for whicfi they couid receive requests, •
Ms. Schreiner stated she has lived in Fridley for many years. Not every
neighborhood is fortunate enough to have a rink right outside their door.
She stated her neighhorhood does not have a rink close by. Very few cities
can afford to maintain many neighborhood ice rinks. So, she was concerned
with (1) safety; and (2} the precedent they would set for requests for more
ice areas.
Mr. Allen stated one question asked by one of the residents was why a park
was built next to the water. He stated a lot of times things are built for
aesthetic purposes. To him, the Harris Park area was very aesthetically
pleasing, and he did not think there was an obtigation for the City to run
the park out onto the water. Ne stated probably the biggest concern was the
liability. In this day and age, anyone can be sued for anything. The difference
to him was the area of expectation. Someone had said the City could be liable
for someone getting injured in the open water during the spring and sumner,
and that was true, but at least in the spring and summer, the water is there
and peopte expect it. It is wet, and people know they are goinq to have to
swtm if they fall into it. True, a child can get hurt on the playqround, but
if it were his chi]d, he would rather have the odds of that child falling off
an apparatus than falling through the ice. "Expectation" was the kev word, A
child or an adult was not expecting to fall through the ice.
Mr. Allen stated he could also understand the neighborhood's viewpoint. His
bottom line feeling was he would rather have peop]e angry and disappointed
than have someone hurt or dead. If that meant they had to say "no", then
he would agree with that, but he also would like to hear about some alternatives
for the future.
PARKS & RECREATIO�� COMMI55ION MEETI�dG, FEBRUARY 4, 1985 PAfE 5
Mr. Nelson stated that as he was growing up in Fridley, there were always
places to skate that were close. Now in the last 10 years� more and more
ice surfaces are being taken away Decause of lack of numbers of money. He
stated he did sympathize with the residents and they should have a place to
skate. He did understand the safety point of view also. Being a hockey
coach, he would like to see the ice cleared.
Mr. Kondrick asked Dr. Boudreau if there was anvthing the City could do for
this area.
Or. Boudreau stated that as tfie Comnissioners and residents knew. there used
to be a hockey rink and general ice rink at Rice Creek School. Unfortunately,
the school was sold. The City was fortunate enough, through negotiation to
the point of condemnation, to obtain about two acres of land for a park.
That land was just cleared last fail. He stated the first thing they heard
when the City came up with a plan, because there was a little holding area for
drainage to the west� was there was going to be 18 in. of water standing in
that area and it was going to be dangerous. If something happened, the Citv
would get sued.
Dr. Boudreau stated that this year, in an attempt to replace some of the ice
rink and general area at Rice Creek, the City developed a skating area on land
that is nothing more than bare land. He was aware the area was not very 6ig,
but it was not any smaller than the rink at Benjamin/Briardale or a lot of
other little pocket parks where they try to put something in for the residents.
He stated there is a ball diamond area that can be enlarged, if desired. and
flooded for skating. As far as scoutinq for additional areas in the Rice
Creek School neighborhood, it was very hard as there just was not much public
land in that area. But, next year they could enlarge the area at Creek Ridge
Park.
Dr. Boudreau stated that every year in November Citv Staff comes before the
Comnission with a map and recomnendations for ice locations for that winter
season. This season there were nine hockey rinks and twenty-one general
skating areas. He stated most of the twenty-one rinks are located on very
small areas. South of 694, there are no ice skating areas.
Mr. Young suggested the Commission members meet with the residents during the
summer and visit both Harris Park and Creek Ridge Park and decide what can be
done for next year.
Ms. Smith stated she was agreeable to that suggestion.
The Commissioners agreed to meet with the residents on Monday, Aug. 5.
Dr. Boudreau stated he would be happy to give the residents a man showing all
the ice locations in the Citv of Fridley so they could drive around and see
what some of the other neighborhoods in the City have.
I�.
PARKS & RECREATIOt� MEETING FEBRUARY 4, 1985 PAGE 6
2. DIRECTOR'S REPORT:
a. Springbrook Nature Center - Siah St. Cldir
Dr. Boudreau stated the City has
center in becoming a more useful
plans call for dredging of ponds,
water surface area. In order to
he had invited Mr. St. Clair to c
Comnission what these plans are.
some plans to develop further the nature
asset to the City of Fridley. These
building a dike, and improvements of
make the Commission aware of these plans,
ome to the meeting and share with the
Mr. St. Clair stated they were very close to having a large se�ment of
the master development plan completed and actually existing. He stated
the beavers have left the park mainly because they have eaten a11 the
food supply, and meanwhile the dams wash out and now instead of open water.
there is really only open meadow with a stream going through the middie of
it. What the master development plan called for was some kind of dike that
would be a permanent dam and wouid hold the water back so there would be
open water for the interpretive use of the park, as we11 as for the wild-
life that wouid come to the park because of it.
Mr. St. Clair stated they have recently been presented with a proposal
from a contractor to make an exchange of services and development. There
is a contractor wAo will be doing some development work at the go7f driving
range an University Ave. As part of deve7op9ng that area, the contractor
needs sand fill. The contractor has approached the Citv with the idea of
taking sand fil) out of the nature center and replacing it with some of
the peat from the golf driving range area, In exchange for the sand fill,
the contractor would do the ponding work.
Mr. St. Clair stated that right now the City is looking at this proposal,
It has been less than four weeks since this proposal was suggested to the
City. and if everything can be worked out, the equipment would go in very
soon. He thought they would have to probably set a timetable of a year
at the most.
Dr, Boudreau stated that at this time, no action was needed by the Commission;
however, later when the plans are finalized, they might come back to the
Commission for some formai action.
Golf Course Initiative Petition - Steve Nelson
Mr. t�elson stated that 500 petitions have been circulated throughout
Fridiey. A ietter from the corrmittee accompanied those petftions. They
are trying to get those petitions back within the next month. 7here hds
been a 1ot of enthusiasm, and they have a7ready had a good turn-out with
the petitions that have been returned. They do not fee] they will have
any problem getting enough signatures in order to have a special election
in the spring.
PARKS & RECREATION COhTiISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 4, 1985 PAGE 7
Dr. Baudreau stated it was important
the golf course initiative petitions,
individual and not as a member of the
2. NEIJ BtlSINESS:
to make it clear that, regarding
Mr. Nelson was acting only as an
Parks & Recreation Cortmission.
a. Park Development - Riverview Heigfits - Dave Kondrick
Mr. Kondrick stated the Riverview Heights area is part of a plan for
major redevelopment by the County. He stated there are some old brick
buildings in the area, and he has received some phone calls from people
who feel those buildings have some aesthetic and historical value and
that the buildings should not be torn down.
Dr. Boudreau stated he thought the impact on the Comnission right now
was that this area was within a block of Craig Park. They might want
to think in terms of what can they do with Craig Park. Should they sell
part of Craig Park? Should they deve7op a Riverview Heights Park?
Mr. Kondrick suggested the Commissioners drive down and look at this area.
They can discuss this again at the next meeting.
b. Softball Tournament Application - Jack Kirk
Mr. Kirk stated that last year the Comnission and the City developed a
tournament application form. One of the things that happened last year
that they did not have defined in the application form was what peovle
had to put in with the application as far as rtwney, or what happens if
a group cancels a tournament. One tournament was cancelled last year,
and the Commission had to make a decision on how much money to keep and
how much to return.
Mr. Kirk stated they have now changed the application form to include
one addition and ane change in wording. The addition was: "One-fourth
of the facility fee rental is to be submitted with the application."
So. if it is a non-profit organization with a$600 rental fee, they are
going to submit $150 with the application.
Mr. Kirk stated the wording change was: "Total fee for the tournament
shall be paid one month prior to the tournament date. If the tournament
sponsor withdraws its application or the tournament is cancelled after
approval by the Parks & Recreation Comnission, the park facility fee will
be refunda6le minus $100 plus $50 administrative cost."
Mr. Allen asked that if an organization cancel]ed their tournament just
two weeks before the date of the tournament, was the $150 enough? The
City gets back $150, but that does not preclude the possibility of another
group using the facility and another $600. That was the part that concerned
him. He had no problem if the tournament was cancelled one month ahead of
time or even three weeks, but two weeks did not give them enouqh time to
get in another grouo. �
PARKS & RECREATION COMMI551ON MEETING, fEBRUARY 4, 1985 PAGE 8
Mr. Kirk stated he agreed with Mr. Allen, but realisticaTly a group would
probably not cancel a tournament any sooner than 2-3 days before the
tournament because of a lack of enough teams.
Mr. Kirk stated one other change was that last year, it was stated on the
form that the tournament sponsor had to contact the Fridley Health Dept.
for permits. That has been changed to the Anoka Couniy Heaith Dept.
MOTION BY MR. YOtING� SECONDED BY l�IIZ. ALLEN, TO APPROVE TXE RECOPfMENDATFONS
FOR CKANGES IN TXE SOFTBALL TOURNAMENT APPLICATIC!'1 FOFtM.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL 40TING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED TNE MOTION
CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY,
4. OTHER BUSINESS:
a. Communication from A1 Kordiak Regarding Grant Money for Islands of Peace Park
Dr. Boudreau stated this was for the Comnission's information about what
the County plans to do with the land purchased across from FMC and west
of East River Raad. The County has 1et a contract for about $840,OOD
and hopes to start development this spring. He stated it will be a very
nice addition to the City of Fridley and Southern Anoka County.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOSION BY 145. SCNREINER� SECONDED BY MR. RLLEN, TO .AA70URN TXE MESTING. UPON A
VOICE VOTE� ALL YOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON KQNDRICK DECLARED SXE FEBRUARY G� 1985�
PARXS 6 RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:35 P.M.
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APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 12, 1985
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson fabel called the February 12, 1485, Apoeals Commission meeting to
order at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Mer,ibers Present: Pat Gabel, Alex Barna, Jean Gerou, Jim Plemel
Members Absent: Donald Betzold
Others Present: Darrel Clark, City of Fridley
Greg Dumonceaux, Dumonceaux & Assoc., Edina
Kenneth Belgarde, 7841 Wayzata Blvd., St. Louis Park
APPROVAL OF JANUARY 29, 1985, APPEALS COMMISSIO�J MINUTES:
MOTION by Hr. Barna, seconded bv Ms. Gerou, to aonrove the January 29, 1985,
pA �eTs Commission minutes as written.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson r,abel declared the motion carried
unanimously.
1
D BY STREET RIGHTS OF WAY PURSUANT
MoTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Ms. Gerou, to remove the item from the
�abi e`.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Gabel declared the motion
carried unanimously.
APPEALS C�IMISSION MEETINf,, FEBRUARY 12, 7985 PAGE 2
MOTION bv Ms. Gerou, seconded by Mr. Plemel, to receive the letter from
�r.�obert C. Parta dated Jan. 30, 1985, stating that this request for
variances has been withdrawn.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Gabel declared the motion
carried unanimously.
2. REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 2�5
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eld, l841 Wayzata Boulevard, St. Louis Park,
MOTION by Idr. Barna, seconded by Mr.Plemel, to open the public hearing.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Gabel declared the public
hearing open at 7:33 p.m.
Chairperson Gabel read the Administrative 5taff Report:
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
5201 East River Road Ta.E.
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENT:
Section 205.18.3D.2 requires two side yards, each with a width of not
less than twenty (20) feet.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to provide adequate open
soace areas around industrial structures for aesthetic and fire fight-
irtg purposes.
B. STATED HARDSHIP:
"There is more than enough distance between Building #2 and Building #3
(40 ft,) to provide proper oro�erty line to buiiAing setbacks (20 ft.).
However, the actual property line occurs 5 feet from Buildina #3 and
because that line is set by financing, bonding, etc., it is im�ossible
to move it. Herein lies the hardship. Also, this area between
Buildings #2 and #3 has a cross easement agreement avoiding any access
questions."
C. ADMIMISTRATIVE STAfF REVIEW:
The required 40 feet is being provided between the structures and this
- area wiil be a cross easement for access with no possibility of being
reduced. For these reasons, the staff has no stipulations to recommend
if the Board moves to recommend approval.
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETTNG, FEBRUARY 12, 1985 PAGE 3
Mr. Clark stated that because of the cross easement between buiiding �2
and building #3, this will not be noticeable to the passerb,y. There will
not be any fencing, just a driveway going between the two buildings.
t4r. Clark stated the petitioners have alreadv set up financing based on
these buildings with the present legal descriptions and for them to change
that now would be a cumbersome, lengthy, and ex�ensive process. He stated
he had agreed with the petitioners that it would be easier to get a variance
for building �3 and get a cross easement so there was no way the buildinas
could encroach on that 40 ft, space. He stated both the architect and the
developer were at the meeting to answer any questions.
Mr. Barna asked if this area would be used for driveway delivery access for
building #3.
Mr. Duranceaux stated this area could serve as access to the servicing areas
of both building #2 and �3; thus the cross easement. The intention right
now was that these pronerties would remain with the existing owner; however,
without the variance, if ever in the future this property would solit, then
officially the one building would not have a proper setback. So, they are
trying to address that question now before it ever becomes an issue in the
future.
Mr. Dumonceaux stated that if this particular property line, which is very
set by financing and bonding, could be moved {an option that is not very
feasible), there would be no need for variances. The sites would both meet
setback requirements. So, this seems the rtrost approoriate way of resolving
the problem.
Mr. Dumonceaux stated a cross easement goes along with the legal description, and
no matter what happens to either site, both parties have the right to the use
of the easement for access to their oronerties. He stated he had oresented
a copy of the legal description of the �ropertv to the Commissioners, and the
actual easement is presently being processed by their attorneys.
MOTION by Mr, Plemel, seconded by Ms. Gerou, to close the public hearinq.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson 6abe1 declared the public
hearin� closed at 7:44 p.m.
Hr. Plemel stated he thought they could see the petitioners' problem. The
roadway going between tfie two buildings was not going to be a great concern
as no one would ever know where the building was in relation to the lot line.
He stated he would be in favor of approving the variance.
Ms. Gerou stated she agreed with Mr. Plemel and was in favor of approving
the variance.
Mr. Barna stated this was similar to things they have done in the industrial
development in the north end off University Avenue and Main Street. In this
APPEALS COMMI55ION MEETINr,, FEBRUARY 12, 1985 PAGE 4
particular area, utilizing the overall plan, he could see no probTem. Whether
there was a lot line there or not was immaterial, other than the legality
of it. As far as the aesthetics, access for safety reasons, or any other
reason were all satisfied bv the basic overall rlan of the entire development.
He was in favor of granting the variance.
Ms. Gabel stated she thought the hardship was well enough defineA with the
financing. This has been a very complicated package to put toqether with the
industrial revenue bonds, and it was certainly easier to get the variance
than to go back and redo the who7e plan. She, too, did not think it had anv
significant impact on the overall plan.
MOTION by Mr. Plemel, seconded by Ms. 6erou, to recommend to City Council
approval of a request for a variance pursuant to Chapter 205 of the Fridley
City Code to reduce the required side yard setback from 20 feet to 5 feet
for Phase 3 building to be constructed on Lots 2, 3, and part of 4, Block 2,
Great Northern Industriat Center, the same being 5201 East River Road,
Fridley, Mn. 55421,
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Gabel declared the motion
carried uanimously.
Ms. Gabel stated this item would go to City CounciT on March 4,
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION by Nr. Barna, seconded by Ms. Gerou, to adjourn the meeting. Upon a voice
vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Gabe] declared the Feb. 12, 1985, Appeals
Cormission meeting adjourned at 7:46 p.m,
Respectfully subm'tted,
x-�. �l�
ynn Saba
Recording Secretary