PL 05/22/1985 - 6851City of fridley
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WEDNES�AY, MAY 2Z, 1985
C0.LL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
APPROVE PLANNING COMNISSION MiNUTES: MAY 8, 1985
1. TABLED 5l8185: PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATIO
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Code, to allow rking lot expansion on Lot 1, Block 1,
Maple Manor A ition, the same being 59Q Lyric Lane N.E.
TABIED 5J$/85: VUBLIC HEARING: COPJSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL 31 - 35
USE PERMIT, SP #85-04, BY LANCE A. LINDPIAN: Per Section
205.07.1, 3, A, of the Fridley City Code, to allow the
construction of a second accessory building, a 20 by 16 foot
garage, ta be used for storage of a classic car on Lot 26
and the North 25 feet of Lot 25, Block 16, Plymouth including
the vacated alley, the same being 4565 - 3rd Street N.E.
TABLED 5J8/85: CONSIDERAT30N OF AN DRDINANCE RECODIFYING THE 36 - 54
FRI�IEY CITY CODE BY AMENDING CHAPTER 214 ENTITLED "SIGNS".
4. RECEIVE HUMAN RESOURCE5 COMMISSION MINUTES OF P1AY 2, 1985
5. RECEIVE PARKS AND RECREATION CCttttISSI(l�l MINUTES OF MAY 6, 1
6. RECEIUE ENERGY PROJECT COMMITTEE �-0INUTES OF MAY 7, 1985
7. 07HER BUSINESS:
ADJOURNMENT:
SALMON
GREEN
LI�HC
C1TY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNIt96 COMMISSION MEETTNf, MAY 8, 1985
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairwanan Schnabel called the May 8, 1985, Planning Cortmission meetinq to order
at 1:33 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
M�bers Present: Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Oquist, Mr. Minton, Mr. Nielsen, Mr, Saba,
Mr. Ko�drick
Members Absent: Ms. Gabel
Others Present: Jim Robinson, Planning Coordinator
Betty Wali, 5425 Quincy St, N.W.
Jackie Judlicki, Fridley Convatestent Home
tance Lindman, 4565 3rd St. t�.E.
Robert McAdam, 7580 Alden Way N.E.
See attached list
APPROVAL OF I�PRIL 3, 1985, PIANNIN� COMMISSION MINUTES:
Nd."ZON BY MA. XONDRZCK, SEC06'DED BY MR. SABA� TO APPROVE THE APRIL 3, 19&5�
PL7NNING Q�MMISSION MINUTES.
Mr. Minton stated that on paqe 14, paragraph 1, the words "she stated" should be
deleted.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CXAIRWOMAN SCHNRBEL DECLARED THE MINC,'TES
APPROVED AS AMENDED.
1. PU[3LIC HEARIId6: COtaS:DERATIUiJ OF A SPECIAL USE PERt1IT, SP #65-03,
er ec ion , C, 6,
of t e Fridley City Lode to allow Darkinq ]ot expansion on Lot 1, Block l,
Mapie Nanor Addition, the same being 759d Lyric Lane N.E.
MOTI(XY BY AD2. KLWDRZCK, SECONDED BY AR, NZELSEN, TO OPEN TXE PUBLZC HEARIt%G
ON SP #85-03 FRIDLEY CONVALESCENT HOME, BY BETTY J, WALL.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTTNG AYE, CNAZRWOMAN SCHNABEL DEC�ED TNE PUBLZC
XEARSNG OPEN AT 7:35 P,M.
Nr. Robinson stated this property was located on the northeast corner of
Madison and Lyric Lane, just east of the Unity Nospital canpiex. The zoning
was R-1 or single famil,y. The neigfiborhood to the soath was predominat�ly
single family, an apartment complex to the east and north, and CR-1 (local)
office) just to the north which included the Fridley Medical Cli�ic property.
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hir, Robinson stated Lhe proposal was for a 40-stall narking ]ot on the east
side of the property with access off Lyric Lane and one-way circulation
within the interior of the parking lot. There waS an existin9 39-stall
parking lot on the west side.
Mr. Robinson stated the Ptanning Canmission members had received cooies of
the June 4, 1980, Planning Cormission minutes when there was a public hearing
regarding a special use permit for an entrante from Lyric Lane because of
expansion of the nursing home, Key points had been highTighted in yeltow.
City PTanner, Mr. Boardman, had stated tF�at "when the nursing home was proposed
in 1968, the Planning Camnission and City Council recommended a special use
permit with the determination that there would be no access off Lyric Lane".
At that meeting, there was a great deai of discussion and reference was made
to the original City Council a;,proval that egress and exit should be on
Madison St. The special use permit at the June 4� 1980, Ptanning Commission
meeting was recommended denial by the Plannfng Cormiission with reasons, and
the request was then withdrawn at the June 16, 1980, City Council meetinq,
7onight, this request was really a re-request for the same proposal.
Mr. Robinson stated Staff has put together what they feel was one solution
which would serve the general needs of the Fridley Convalescent Home and the
whole area, and wou7d maintain and continue the existing access off Madlson
St. This woutd involve the removal of the existzng storage garage area to the
�orth. They would suggest that the pro�osed access onto lyric Lane be closed
off and landscaped.
Mr, Robinson stated Staff was recommending the following stipulations:
1. There Ae no access off Lyric Lane; that the access be off Madison St.
2. The parking lot be screened, both from the driveway and the
residential property.
3. Any lighting in the parking lot be diffused lighting.
4, There be cne-way signs plac�� in the parking lot.
5, Petitioner work with Citv Engineerina on drainage requirements.
Mr. Robinson stated he had received a telephone call from a resident,
Janice Carroll, 7567 L_vric Lane, who could not attend this meeting, She
lives directiy across the street, She stated she was against access off Lyric
Lane. She had a pro6lem because of the already existing traffic and nroblem
of property values. She was not against the parkinq lot if properly screened
and would support the parking lot with access off Madison.
Mr. Robinson stated the parking lot as described was for emp7oyees only so
tfiere rrouldn't be a high turn-over of cars coming and qoing.
Mr. Robinson stated one other issue that should be raisedwas the apartment
building just to the east, Highland Park Apartments. There has been complaints
in the past of people from the apartment building driving over the boulevard
onto Lyric Lane. It has been suggested that a barricade be put up so they
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cannot continue to do that. One of the fears of the neighborhood is that if
access is allowed off Lyric Lane for the Fridley Convalescent Hortie, the,v
would fiave a hard time denying a permit to the apartment buiiding
for the same access off Lyric Lane. Tfiere is the concern that the residential
quality of the neighborhood woutd suffer.
Mr, Robinson stated City Staff has met on site with people from the nursing
home and went over the feasibility of moving the garage and putting the
driveway through to the proposed east parking lot. One of the big concerns
of the nursing home was they have a patio area for the residents behinA the
building, and the driveway would be an intrusion on that passive area.
Mr. Saba asked how many people were employed at the Fridley Convalescent Home.
Ms. Jackie Judlicki stated she was the Administrator of the Fridley Conva-
lescent Home, She stdted they have 140 emoloyees. The maximum number of
employees per shift is 5D. The shifts are 6:00 a.m. - 2:3� p.m.; 2:00 p.m. -
10:30 p.m.; night shift.
Ms. Judlicki stated the proposed parking lot would be an employee parkinc� lot
and would be used solely for that purpose. She stated it was verv difficult
to visualize the real situation at the rear of the building unless peonle had
actuaily been there and looked at it. She stated there is not only a garage,
but a garbage collection area. The property to the north sloDes down at a
great inctine, so in order to extend the driveway, a lot of fi11 would have to
be hauled in and some type of retaining wall constructed, They could not go
with a single driveway as described by City Staff, At the rear of the building
just before the garage, there are double doors. That is the emergency entrance.
Also, all deliveries are made to the rear of the building, so large semi's come
in and tfiey can take up the whole driveway for up to 1/2 hour in order to
unload supplies. There would have to be enough room for cars to bypass what-
ever vehicle was in the driveway.
Ms. Judlicki stated that, as Mr. Robinson had mentioned, they do have a patio
area in the rear--a contrete area with nice landscaping that is used not onlv
by the employees, but by the residents and families oF re5idents. Many family
activities are held there, She felt that for the safety of the residents, some
of whom are very confused, she could not envision a driveway right there.
Ms. Judlicki stated the existing parking lot does accommodate 39 cars. That is
hardly enouqh for their employees, let atone visitors, dnctors, various
services coming into the nursing home (such as rtabile dental, eye doctor, lab,
portable x-ray, etc,}, Their employees are parkinq on the street; and at one
time, were utilizing Unity Hospital parking lot; but now with the expansion
of their faciiities, Unity is also crowded for parking.
Ms. Judlicki stated that many visitors to the nursing home are elderly them-
selves, and it is very difficult for them to visit their families and friends.
The driveway coming off Madison St, for the existing parking lot is cor�inq in
at an incline so in the winter with ice and snow, it is not only an inconvenience,
but also a safety hazard to anyone having to walk up to the building.
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Ms. Judlicki stated the expense of putting the driveway through in the rear
woutd probably cost 3-4 times more than putting a driveway in off Lyric Lane,
pius the disruption of their passive patio area and the safety of their
residents.
Mr. Minton asked if a study had been done in-house of how much additional
cost would be incurred by extending the dr{veway fror� Madison.
t4s. Judlicki stated they had not done a study.
Ms. Schnabel asked how they would indicate that the proposed lot was for
employee parking only.
Ms. Judlicki stated they would have signs indicating it was an employee parking
lot on1y, Each employee would have a sticker for the car, and it would be
monitored through the maintenance department,
Mr, Phil Dahlen, 1378 Skywood lane N,E „ stated his mother has taeen a patient
at the Fridley Convalescent Home for 12 years. From the existing driveway
from where it slants and goes back to the double doors, �here are some blocks
that go up to separate the cars that are facing east and the cars that are
facing west and also cars up against the buildinq. When you are tryinq to get
out of the double doors area, you have to back i� between a set of parked cars
which is practically impossible. He stated there is no other way to turn
around in that slant.
Mr. Dahlen stated that as to the parking facilities on the west siAe of the
buiiding, there is very few parking spaces for people like himself coming to
visit. There is Fwndicapped parking on the very northwest corner where
the double doors are. He stated that during tfie w5nter time, it is ohysically
impossible to go uphitl, because the existing parking lot is downhill. The
employees have to park some place; and if the employees are takinq up parkinq
spaces, there are no parking snaces for visitors except oi� ��2 street. He
s`.ated he had no intention of parking his car on the street at any time.
MT•, Dahlen stated that on the north side of the driveway, it is all downhill,
In order to extend tfie driveway, there would have to be a lot of fill brought
in, As far as the distance, he did not think there could be a 25 ft, driveway
in there at all. As far as access off Lyric Lane, cars would not be coming in
convoy fashion. It was when the shift ended that there mtqht be a prob]em,
because everyone wants to get out at the same time. The possible solution
urould be ]ike it is at Northtown, where the cars go in on one side with a
little bit of an island and comes out on the other side, with a right turn
only onto Lyric Lane, so no one can cross the street making a ieft turn goinq
to Jackson St, around 3:00 p.m, in the afternoon,
Ms, Carol Bas91, 810 Rice Creek Terrace, stated she does go to the nursinq home
to visit her father and she has yet to be able to park in the parkinq lot,
She has either had to park on the street or leave and come back later, She
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►routd be in favor of an additional parking lot. The existing drivewav is
very narrow, and she did not think that would be a good access to the proposed
parking lot on the east.
Ms. Dorothy Newton, 228 - 104th Lane N,W., stated she wo�dered if anyone had
taken into consideration the building for the new medical center across the
street at Unity Hospitat, Because of the construction, the workmen take u� a
lot of the street parking. She stated she has spoken to people at the Fridley
Medicat Clinic next door, and they object to visitors from the nursinq home
parking in their lot. Some of the visitors to the nursinq home have to use
the church parking lot. She stated she usually goes to the nursing home
between 1:C0-2:30 p.m, and usually there is no place to park, She stated her
mother has been in the nursin9 hane for 6�, years. That is her mother's home,
All her mother has to leok forward to are her visitors as she cannot get out
of bed and cannot walk. Many people who would like to come to the nursing
home do not because they cannot walk from the street or other parkinq lots.
Ms. Newton stated that on Dec. 28, 1984, tfiere was a fire at the Fridley
Convales�ent Home, How would the fire engines have gotten across to the east
side of the building without a parking lot and driveaay if there has been
a lot of snow? She stated they have to take the safety factors into consideration,
too.
Ms. Newton stated that many cars �,arked on the street are parked so close
together that there are near collisions to cars exiting because peo�le cannot
see someone trying to enter. 5he stated these are all very bad situat`ons.
Ms. MerTe Herbert stated she lives in Minneapolis. Her mother has lived in
the fridley Convalescent Home for lA years, 5he stated she believed when she
goes to visit her mother, she would have the right to park just like any other
person who visits his/her mother. She stated that if Ms. Judticki said thin�s
would be kept up, they could take her word as the Fridley Convalescent Home is
a"home", If Ms. Judlicki tells her staff how to �.ark, they will do �.��! she
says.
Ms, frances Frank stated she was an employee at the Fridley Convalescent Nome.
She stated she felt that the existing parking lot should be for visitors only�
and the aew parking lot should be ior employees only, She did not think it
was good to have access from Madison and have to move the garage or the
beautiful patio the residents enjoy.
Mr. Bruce Barsness, 7569 Lyric Lane, stated he was opposed to the parking lot
and to the access onto Lyric Lane. He stated he has been a homeowner on
Lyric Lane for 8%, years. During that time, there has 6een considerable expan-
sion of all the property owned by the North Suburban Hospiial District and
operated by Health Central, Inc. The size of L'nity is much bigger than it
was 8 years ago. The amount of traffic is much larger than 8 years ago. If
tfiey compare the traffic on Lyric Lane to the traffic or. any other street in
the Melody Manor area, there was a considerable difference.
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Mr. Barsness stated they have some rapidly expanding businesses on the north
side. Homeowners who were there first are on the south side. The haneowners
want one thing and the businesses want something else. He has not seen any
expansion plans tf�at take into account both the homeowners and the businesses.
Mr. Barsness stated he lives across the street from the Highland Park Apart-
ments. There is a parking lot there, and he dfd not need two parking lots
across the street from him, One other concern had to do with property values.
The value of the hames on Lyric Lane are iess than the homes in the interior
of Melody Manor,
Mr. Barsness stated that five years ago there was a proposal by the Fridley
Convalescent Fbme for a U-shaped driveway and expansion of the structure to
the east. There was no mention at that time of a need for more parking, so
apparently this additional parking need has arisen since that time. Six years
ago the nursing home did not have a patio or storage building on the back side.
He questioned the nursing home's planning. Why weren't these parking problems
foreseen before these things were put in?
Mr, Barsness stated that besides the traffic, he had some other concerns
regarding the access onto Lyric Lane. If the lot overftows either because
there are too many smployees, snow removal problems, repairs, etc., those
cars are ail qoing to be out on Lyric Lane.
Mr. Barsness stated that as far as the City's proposal for the driveway goinq
in from the back, the only way he would find that acceptable was if the lot
Nas fenced in a11 the way around including the Lyric Lane side and landscaped
so they wou7d not have to look at the cars. One of his concerns with r,ne City's
pTan was that when landscaping goes in, it is always quite sma11. Cars would
sti11 be able to drive in over the grass just like they do at the Highland
Park Apartments. He wanted to make sure there was no way the cars could get
to Lyric Lane from the parking lot.
Mr. Barsness stated parking on the east lot would have to be controlled
because there could be a potential pro6lem there. He had heard there was qoinq
to be a sticker system, "employee parking only" signs, and he believed those
were good intentions, but sorietimes things change over a period of time. Once
that lot is in, it cannot be removed.
Mr. Lioyd Larson, 7544 Lyric Lane, asked if the driveway could be extended to
an east parking lot. Was there enough land? Ne stated peonle have talked about
safety of the people in the nursing home, but what about the safety of the
children who walk up and down Lhe street because there are no sidewalks? If
the Fridley Convalescent Home gets a driveway onto Lyric Lane, then the aoart-
ment build4ng should have the same access. Right now the street is very busy.
He could agree to the parking lot, but no access onto Lyric Lane. He would
like to see the driveway on the batk side if there is enough room. Then everv-
body's problem would be solved.
Mr. Larson stated that when the Fridley Convatescent Home was built, it was
stipulated that there would be no atcess onto Lvric Lane because the people
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did not want it. Five years ago they treed for access onto Lyrit Lane, and
here they are a9ain. If the building was not enlarged as proposed five years
ago and the parking lot was bi9 enough then� wf�y tf�e need for more parking now?
Ms. �udlicki stated the building has not been expanded. Since it was built in
1970, however, tfiere fiave been a 1ot of internal changes in the buildinq,
They are receiving residents into the home who require much more care than they
did in 1970-1975-1979. Hospitals have to discharge patients much sooner. They
are getting people who are almost in the critical state. 7his repuires more
staff and services to care for the residents, and th�t means more cars. They
have done a lot to encourage family participation, family care conferences,
family events, etc. They want the residents to feel part of a family unit,
a�d so the families have to get to tfie nursing home. With a new parkinq lot
for employees, they would be able to add more handicapoed parkinq. Many
empioyees park on Madison St. now in order to free up parking spaces for
visitors. This isn't just a tsnporary problem; it has been going on for a
long time. They, too, are concerned for tf�e safetv of the children. Thev
have checked with an elementary school about school scfiedules, and the employees
would be cominq and leaving before and after the chiidren are walking to
from school.
t4r. Larson stated that when the Second sfiift at the nursing home gets out,
the children from Spring Lake Park High School are coming home.
Ms. Dorothy Artmann* 254 Rice Creek Boulevard, stated she was an employee at
the Fridley Convalescent Home, and also had a loved one living in the nursinq
home, There are a lot of Fridley empioyees who have �ut up with a lot of
inconvenience with the parking. Hhen you care about someone being able to
visit a resident, then you don't park in the lot. She stated her aunt was
a resident at the nursing home, and her mother is elderly. It is hard for
her mother to walk; and if the weather is not good, then her mather does not
visit her aunt, which means her aunt is denied a visit. There were onlv three
people to visit her aunt--her sister, her mother, and herself.
Ms. Artmann stated they were not asking the people on Lyric Lane to be
inconvenienced. The hosoital and the nursing home were there before the
homeowners. Children can also create a problem for traffic, She stated they
really need a parking lot. Some day she may be a resident in that nursing
hane, and if they do not get it the way tf�ey want it now, they will not have it.
Mr. Jdhn Haines, 448 Rice Lreek Blvd., stateA he would like to make a few
ca�me�ts from the hospital perspective. They recognize that part of the problem
is because of the expansion going on right now at Unity Nospital, but they are
Lrying to correct those problems. He stated they are trying to be good neigh-
bors. Right now there is no doctors` 1ot, as such, betause they had to take
over part of the employee lot for the doctors. There is also expansion on
the professional building to the west. All this exnansion should be done bv
sumner and hopefu]ly that will help with the traffic and parking problem.
Mr. Haines stated they have tried to maintain the landscaping between the
hospital and the neighbors. They have been canpl�mented on it. Sometimes,
w6en the neighbors are crowded for parking snace, they will use the hosp`tal
parkinq lot for extra space.
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Mr, Haines stated he had one other concern, and he has tried to get Anoka
County to look at this problem, He believed a lot of traffic was added
from the hospital from Madison St, east. Cars wiil come down to Lyric Lane
because they can get out on Osborne and make a left hand turn because there
are stop signs there. He stated they cannot seem to get stop signs installed
at Madison St. and Osborne. The congestion gets so bad on Madison tryin9 to
make a left hand turn that many peaple are qoing to take Lyrfc Lane, He
stated he had talked to Paul McCarron, Anoka Couniy Comnissioner, about this
problem last fall, Mr. McCarron had said he would see that a traffic study
was done on Madison and Osborne, but one has not been done yet. He stated
he did believe that stop signs on Osborne and Madison would help with a lot
of the traffic on Lyric Lane.
Ms. Edna Barsness, 7589 Lvric Lane, st�ted she is a registered nurse and works
at Unity Hospital, She knCws a lot of the patTents from her station do go to
the nursing home. Before she was a nurse, she was a nursfnq assistant in a
nursing home and her mother resided in a nursinq h�me so she was not aqainst
the nursing ho�e. She was against the parking lot with access onto Lyric Lane.
The nursing home operates 24 hrs/day, 7 days/week, 3fi5 davs/year. School is
not in session all year, and the children are out in the street ridinq bikes,
etc, She stated you can sav that most of the children are old enouqh to know
6etter, but what about the little children who do not know better, The aoart-
ment building poses a concern also beCause there are many youngsters in that
compiex, some very yo�ng, and they have very few places to plaV. She was
amazed that nc one had qotten hurt, as many of the children cross the street.
Ms. Barsness stated she believed that if the nursing home got access onto
Lyric Lane, the apartment building woutd want access, too, and that would pose
a lot more traffic.
Ms. Barsness stated it was her understanding that it was not possible for the
nursino home to get access onto Lyric Lane without special permission. If the
Fridiev Convalescent No�e knew that, why was the storage shed built there and
why was the beautiful patio buiit there without any thought to where they were
going to get access? This just did not make sense to her.
Ms. Barsness stated she did not especially want a �arking lot across the street
from her, but if they have to have it, then she didn't want access off Lvric
La�e. and the parking lot would have to be well bounded so that no cars could
drive across the grass. She hoped the City would maintain its policv and vote
against any access onto Lyric Lane.
Mr. Charlie Johanson, 424 Rice Creek Slvd., stated that even if they moved the
garage, he dtd not think there was enough room to put a two-car driveway
behind the building. There was only 33 ft. from the building to the corner at
the narrowest point.
Ms. Schnabel asked if the fridley Convatescent Home had discussed the possi-
bility of purchasing a little section of land from the proparty owners to th�
north.
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Mr. Johanson stated they have talked to the property owners to the north, but
they are also sfiort of parking.
Ms. 5chnabel stated that she would think that if there was any possibility of
acquirinq that small section, it would certainly enhance the nursing home's
chances of putting in the wider driveway.
Mr, Johanson stated the nursing home also had another option, and that was to
come off Madison and go in front of the buildinq.
Mr. Julian Boyda, 7543 Lyric Lane, stated he moved to Lyric Lane in 1972, and
it was his understandinq the nursing home was not going to be expanded. He
stated the neighbors opposed the expansion proposal five years ago, and they
still ooposed tfie acCess caninq out onto Lyric Lane. He state� he loved
children, and he was very concerned about the children because of the traffic.
Ms. Norma Wetterberg stated her mother was a resident of the Fridley Convalescent
Home. She used to park in the �ot, but now there is nowhere to oark. She is
one of the people who have had to park on Lyric Lane. She stated she would like
the Planning Commission to give Serious consideration to allowing an entrance
to the proposed parking lot from Lyric Lane.
Mr. Michael Boo, 2810 57th Ave. N„ stated he was repr2senting the Fridlev
Convalescent Home. He stated he would like to again sumnarize their position.
The reason why the request is before the Planning Commission and why it is
appropriate that the Planning Cocmission act on it at this meeting as opoosed
to the proposal five years ago was because of the thanges in the area, pressures
from Unity Hospital and its expansion, the takinG away of parking space that was
normallv allowed and that is no longer available, Those things are not goinq to
change. fridley itself has expanded in ways it could not fiave envisioned even
five years ago. The nursing fiome has become basically an acute care nursinq
center with an increase in staff as a result, and clearly there was the need
for the parking lot.
Mr, Boo stated the question seems to come down to (1) the relationship to the
apartment building, and he was not sure that was an issue here. The �ressures
the nursing home is feeling are both internal and from the west, and the aoert-
ment building is not under those same pressures; {2) access across the back
onto Madisor, He wanted to sumnarize a few staterients made earlier, and that
was that space is currentty being used for emergency access and loading and
unloading of supplies. Tfiere is a garage there with a foundation. There is a
patio that is being used by the residents quite fr?quently which sugqests the
possible safety hazards to the residents �rom the traffic; (3} the comment was
- made of why were tfie patio and garage located tfiere? He stated he did not
think the nursing fiome people foresaw what kind of expansion would occur.
Per6aps that was an oversigfit on the part of the develooers, but perhaps no one
could have foreseen the trends that have taken and are taking place.
Mr. Boo stated that regarding the access off Madison St., extensive fi11 would
have to be brought in to build out to the property line. It was a very
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expensive proposition; it raises safety hazards for emergency access and to
the resfdents, and it was a tight and difficult access that he did not think
Moutd be adequate.
Ms. Judlicki stated she wouid like to introduce Leota Herylu, a resident and
President of the Resident Council, who would like a moment to SPeak to the
Commission.
Ms. Herylu stated she had been a patient at Unity Hospital who couldn't return
home so Fridley Convatescent Nome became her permanent home. She staied her
family comes to vSsit, and they do not have a place to park, and they cannot
get in back to pick her up. She stated it would be nice for the emoloyees to
have their own parking lot so the visitors could get closer to pick uo the
residents for outings. She stated the residents were all in favor af the
emptoyee parking lot.
Mr. Saba stated he has seen a lot of situations where additional parking can
be made available by having a remote parkin9 lot and a shuttle bus service.
He asked if this possibility had been considered. It would eliminate the need
for a parking lot for the eMployees, or the visitors could even use the shuttle
service.
Mr. Boo stated it was something that could be considered; however, there are
sometimes a Tot of costs built into something like that and businesses for
profit can afford those costs easier than businesses that are not for profit.
That might be the reason why this was not possible in this case.
Mr. Minton asked if the Fridley Convalescent Home had given any consi�ieration
to expanding the parking lot on the west down to Lyric Lane.
Ms. Judlicki stated they expanded the parking lot once in 1976, and the Citv
to]d them at th:at time that it was the closest they could come to Lvric Lane.
MOTION BY MR. MINTON, SECONDED BY MR. OpUIST, TD CLOSE TXE PUBLIC NEAP.IP:G
ON SP N85-03� FRIDLEY CONVRLESCENT XOME, BY HETTY J. WALL.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AY£, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNhBEL DECLARED TNE PUALIC
NEARZhG CZASED AT 9:00 P.M.
Mr. Robinson stated he realized the City Staff`s solution was not the cheanest
or the easiest, but they did spend a good deal of time on site and felt that
with the appropriate engineering, their suggestion coutd be accomplished. He
did not feel there has been any real significant study done on this proposal,
and maybe that should be done.
Mr, Kondrick stated he definitely felt the nursing home needed a new parkinq
lot. The issue here was whether access shoutd be off Lyric Lane or not.
In visiting the site and looking it over, he felt there was enough room to
accommodate a wider drivet�ay. Nowever, before he couid make any kind of
recomnendation, he would want to make sure there was room for a semi-trailer
and a car, They also need to know a"ball park" figure of how large a cost
the Citv would be imposing on the nursing home.
PLANNIqG COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 8, 1985 PAGE 11
Mr, Oquist stated he agreed, He could see the need for the parking lot, but
before he could vote on it, he would like to see the feasibility of the drive-
way coming across the back of the property from Madison with a cost estimate.
Ne thought access onto Lyric Lane did pose a prob7em,
Ns. Schnabel asked what the timetable was for the parking lot.
Ms. Judlick stated they were hoping to have the Rarkinq lot completed bv earlv
fall,
Ms. Schnabel stated if the Planning Commission were to table this item, there
would be time for the Fridiey Convalescent staff and City Staff to conduct a
study on the feasibility of the driveway behind the building and put toqether
sane cost figures.
Ms, �udlick stated they would be willing to do tf�is.
MOPIOA' BY MR. MINTON, SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TD TAELE DZSCUSSZON ON SP NRS—C'3
FRIDLEY CONVALESCENT NOME, BY HETTY J, WALL, UNTTL THE MAY 22, Z485, PL'�'7:JG
COMMZSSZON HE£TING FOR TN£ PURPOSE OF OBTAI7vP.dG A BRIEF STL�DY FROM THF --:AL"ii
CENPRAL ENGINEERS AND TXF. CIT}' OF FRIDLEY ENCIT:F.ERS ON TN£ FEASIBILI' �F :.
WIDER DRIVEWAi' BEHZh'D THE FRIDLEY CONVALESCEXT NOX£ TO THE NE4! PROP:."�::>
PARXING ZAT.
UPOR A VDICE VOT£, ALL VOTZ6'G AYE, CHAIRWOA.'AN SCHNABF.L DECi.ARED TN.E N.� :'IDN
CARRIED UFAh'IMOG'SiY.
2. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERaTION OF A SPECIAL U5E PERt4IT, SP �85-04, BY
er ec ion ,., ,, o e ri . �—T"?y C�ode,
to a ow t e construction of a second accessory building, a 20 by 16 foot
garage, to be used for storage of a classic car, on Lot =^ and the North
25 feet of Lot 25, Blotk i6, Plymouth includinq the vacated alley, the same
bei�� �565 - 3rd Street i�.E.
lIOTZON BY MR. KONDRICX, SECONDED BY MR, SABA, TD OPEN TAL PUBLIC NEAP.ING
ON SP #BS-04 BY LANCE A. LZNDMAN,
UPON A VOZCE VDTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAII2WD.YAh £:'ii?AF£L DECLARED THE PUBLZC
XEARZNG DPEN AT 9:Z7 P,N.
The petitioner, Mr. Lindman,had been at t�� eetfnq but had 1eft. The
Comnissioners agreed they were not comf�� _le making a decision without
the petitioner present.
!lOTSON BY MR.� MZNTOti, SECONDEA BY MR. �_£LSEN, TO CONTZNUE THIS ITEM U17TZL
LATER IN THE MEETING IN CASE THE P£:`=_IONER RETUR'dED TO THE MEETZNG.
ilPON A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, =NAIRWOMAN SCHNFiBEL DECLARED THE MOTZON
CRRRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 8. 1985 PAGE 12
3. PUBLIL HEARIN6: CONSIDERATION OF A PRELIMI
I IO , B R . 8eing a rep at
ot , evise u itor s ubdivision No. 77
NOTION BY KR. q?UIST, SECONDED BY MR. SABA, 2b OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARZNG ON
P.S. N85-OI, LANDMARX ADDITION, BY ROBEkT McADAM.
VPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE, CXAZHPERSON SCXNABEL D£CLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN AT 9:29 P.M,
Mr. Robinson stated the property was iocated north of Osborne, stretching a11
the way to 77th Ave., east of the railroad tracks, and west of Main St. It
was a subdivision of a large piece of pro�erty. 7he plat was for 3.61 acres.
Mr, Robinson sLated the proposal was for mi�i-storage facilfties--two 1o�n
buildinqs, approx. 42,300 sq. ft. of storage space. The structures wi11 t�
705 ft, long eac� separated with fire wa!ls as per code. Cars wi11 ent�
north of 77th. There is two-way traffit througfiout the entire complex. ere
is approx. 10 ft, green area on the west and 5 ft. of areen �rea on th� st,
The waterworks easement will stay green at the City's request. Therf
would be a small office/residential facility in the northwest corner � t�e
property for a live-in caretaker for the facility. There would be �;r nark-
tng stalls adjoining the office/residence. There would be 22 nar���,7 stalls
required for a development of this siie. But, because there is i`tle need
for parking, four stdlls are all that will be put in. There wr. � be addittonal
parking area if it would become a problem. He stated the en* area will be
fenced with e 6 ft. high chain ]ink fence with 6 strands of .: e for a totaT
of 7 ft.
Mr, Robinson stated Staff was recomnending the following stipulations:
], Redwood or cedar slats and vines to be installed in fencinq alor.q
right-o�-:aays and to 150 ft back from all four fence corners.
Additional screening to be provided dependinq on future deve�opment.
2. Develoner to work with the Cfty to achieve a satisfactory landscaoe
plan.
3. All storage building masonry to be rock face block.
4. Office building to be brick mass-• .
5, Developer to comply with fire �e requirements.
6. Developer to provide and re�c ve approval of a standard rental
agreement with rules and rec�lations for storage facilities.
7. Park fee of E3,676,36 to �e paid prior to issuance of a buiiding
permit.
PLANNING COMMI55ION MEETIN6, MAY 8, 1985 PAGE 13
8. Plat Lo be recorded at the County prior to issuance of a b�ilding
permit.
9, Provide a performance bond or letter of credit in the amount af
�15,000.
Mr. Minton asked who would approve the rental agreement--the Planning
Comnission or City Staff. He would have a concern if the Planning Commission
was supposed to approve the rental agreement.
Mr, Robinson stated Staff could approve the rental agreement.
Ms. Schnabel stated she was concerned about puttinq a residential dwelling in
M-2 zoning.
Mr, Robinson stated it was an al)owa6le use.;dwelling in an M-2 zone for a
watch person is considered an accessory use.
Mr, McAdam stated he had no probiems witf� tf�e stipulations, He was aqainst
the redwood or cedar slats in the fencing only becuase they are easily broken,
Mr. McAdam stated some of the storage garages in surroundinq areas have lights
on the interior. He stated he was not providing interior lighting. There
will be electric outlets on tfie exterior every 40 ft, so if someone wanted to
get into a storage garage at night, the caretaker would provide a trouble light.
He stated the renters will not be allowed to store any flamrt�able materials.
He stated this is one of the cleanest businesses, because it does n�t create
any pollution or traffic and is a very small burden on the Fire Dept, and
Police Dept. It may even clean up the City as it will provide storaqe for people.
MOTTCW AY MR. OQUIST, SECONDED BY HR. HIN^`ON� TD CLOSF. TNE PUBLIC HEARI,ti'G
ON P,S. M85-01, LAfaDHARK ADDITION, BY ROBERT McADAM.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, RLL VOTING AYE, CXAZRWO.MAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THF. PUBLIC
HEARING CIASED AT 9:43 P.M.
MOTION By MR. MZNTON� SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO RECONMFND TO CITY CD[�NCZL
APPROVAL OF PRELIMZNARY PLAT, P.S. M85-02, LANDMARK ADDITION, BY ROBERT McADAN.',
BEING A REYZ.AT OF� TXE &ROPERSY DESCRZBED AS LOT 5, REVISED AUDITOP.'S SUB-
DNISZON ND, i7� iFZTH THE FOLIAWING STIPOLATIONS:
1, REDWOOD OR CEDAR SLATS ANO VSNES TO BE INSTALLED ZN FENCING RLOA'G
RZC,dT-OF-WAYS AND TO Z50 FEET BRCK FROM ALL FOUR FENCE CORN£P.S.
ADDITIONAL SCREENING Tp BE PROVZDED DEPENDING ON PUTURE DEVF.IAPh'f.',�T,
2. DEVELOPER TO WORY. WZTX TXE CZTY TO ACHIEVE A SRTISFACTORY LANDSCAPE
PLAN.
3. ALL STORAGE BUILDING MASONRY SO BE ROCK FACE BZOCK.
4, OFFZCE BUILDING TO BE BRICK MASONRY•
5. DEVEIAPER 1Y) CO.+lPLY WITN FZRE CODE REQtIIREMENTS.
6, DEVEIAPER TO PROVIDE AND RECEZVE APPROVAL FROM CITY STAFF OF A
STANDARD RENTAL AGREEHENT WITX RULES AND REGULATIDNS FOP. STDRAGE
FACZLITIES.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING PWY 8 1985 PAGE 14
7. PARK FEE OF 53,616.36 TO BE PAID PRIDR TO ISSUANCE OF A
BUILDZNG PERHIT.
9. PLAT TO BE RECORDED AT COUNTY PRIOR 2YJ SSSUANCE OF A BUILDING
PERMST.
9, PROVIDfi R PERFORMRNCE BOND OR LETTER OF CREDZT IN TNE ANOUIOT
OF $15,000,
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCXNABEL DECLARED TNE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms, Schnabel stated this would go to City Council on May 20,
4. TABLED 2/27/85: L07 SPLIT REQUEST, L,S. A85-03, BY ROBERT 6ILSTAD: Split
o t e as er y eet, except t e rt er y feet of part of Lot l,
AudiLor's Subdivision No. 25 jsee file for complete 1ega1} to be used
as a parking lot for the apartments on Lynde Drive. (Moore Lake Apartments
Complex)
Mr. RoDinson stated this item has been tabled indefinitely.
Ms. Schnabel stated they should put some type of time limit on this item.
The Comnissioners agreed to keep L5 N85-03 on the table for six months.
5. COPiTINUED FROM EARl.IEP. IF� THE MEETING: CONSIDERATION Of A SPECI
Ms. Schnabet stated it did not appear that tAe p�titioner was going to return.
.70TION BY XR. OQUIST, SECONDED BY MR, XONDRZCX, TO TABLE SPECIAL USE p£RMIT
REQUEST, SP N85-04, UNTIL THE NEXT MEE2'ING.
UPQN A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CNAIRWOMAN SCNNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY".
6. REVIEW OF AN ORDINANLE RECODIFYING THE FRIOLEY LITY CODE BY ADOPTI!iG A NEW
E E I P G I I
IRE Y:
Mr. Nielsen stated he had a problem with this ordinance because the City
enforces the ordinance for some people and not for others. He felt the
ordinance had no vatue whatsoever if it is not enforced equally.
Mr. Robinson stated that in the past, there has not been much in the ordinance
that addressed boulevards, and they wanted to strengthen the boulevard
cleanliness issues so they put sometfiing in the ardinance about the boulevards,
especially about dumping on the boulevards.
Mr, Robinson stated Section 105.04 had a timetable for the mai�tenance of
doulevard areas, which was a big change from the first ordinance.
PLANNING C0141ISSION MEETING. MAY 8, 1985 PAGE 15
Mr. Oquist referred to Section 105,04,2, A, B, C, which gave the three cutting
dates, Nowever Section 1GS.OA,3 stated that "noxious weeks or use]ess vege-
tation shall be cut so as not to allow growth to exceed a greater height than
ten (lp} inches on the average during these time periods". Mr. Oquist stated
the weeds are gaing to grow higher than 10 inches between each of the cutting
times listed. He felt the ordinance should be a little stronger..either the
� cutting times or 10 incfies, whichever comes first.
Ms. Schnabel stated she had one concern about cutting along the boulevards and
that was concerning "nesting" areas. In the rural areas, people are asked
not to cut on the sides of the roads until certain dates because of �estinq
areas. She thought the State had a program that encourages people to not
cut until after a certain date in order to encourage wildtife. She stated
Fridley does have a certain amount of wildlife, a�d maybe they should be
eonsidering the potential problem of disturbing nesting areas. This is some-
thing that should be checked into.
Mr. Oquist referred to Section 105.08 ASSESSMENT, which included the statement:
"The actual cost of such cutting and removal, plus up to twenty-five (25)
�ercent for inspection and other additional costs..." He stated why say
up to 25%"? Why not set a certain percentage? How is the City going to
�rmine what the "up to" is? It is ratfier subjettive,
Mr, Minton agreed. He siated if people have been warned and still dn not
comply with the notice of violation, then they should have to pay the extra
surcharge. The surcharge shouldn't vary.
MOTZON BY MR. MINTON� SECONDED BY MR. HONDRICX, TO RECOHMEND TQ CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF AN DRDINANCE RECOOZFYING THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE BI' ADOPPING A NEW
CHAPTER ZOS ENTITLED °WEED CONTROL" AND REPEALING OLD CNAPTER 205 ZN ITS
ENTIRETY, WITH TXE RECOHMENDATIDN TXAT TNE FOLLOWING CNANGES BE MADE:
1. SECTION I05.04,3 BE MORE SPECIFIC REGARDING THE CUTTIt7G TZMETABLE
AT7D THE HEIGHT OF NOXZOUS WEEDS AND USST.ESS VEGE2ASZON--THAT AT
ND TZME SNDULD THEY EXCEED 10 ZNCHES.
2. TXE CONSIDERATION OF "NESTZNG" AREAS FOR WILDLZFE,
3, CONSIDER DROPPZNG TXE FtJRDS "UP TD° ZN SECTZON IOS,OB ASSESSMENT.
UPON A VOSCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE�CHAZRWOMAN SCHNASEL DECLARf.'D TXE MOTZON
CARRIED UNANSAJOUSLY.
7. CQIISIDERATION OF APPROVAL Of SIGN PLAN FOR 7570 HIGHWAY �Y65 N.E.
Mr. Oquist stated the Planning Comnission has never before been asked to
approve a sian plan, Why was this being brought to the Planning Comnission?
Mr, Robinson stated he believed just the City Council has approved sign plans
in the past.
The Commissioners agreed they would not like to get involved in approving
stign plans.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MAY 8, 1985 PAGE 16
6. REVIEW OF AN ORDINANLE RECODIFYING 7HE FRIDLEY C1TY LODE BY AFIEN[IINr,
Ms. Schnabel stated she would like to see them continue this item until
17s, Gabel, Chairperson of the Appeals Comnission, could be present.
MOTZON BY MR, KONDRZCK, SECONDED BY XR, NIN117N� TO CONTINU6 TXIS ITEM UNTIL
THE NEXT MEETING.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIF6'OMAN SCXNABEL DECLARED THE MOTZON
CARRZED fJNANI,NOUSLY.
9. REUIEW OF PROPOSED ORDINANLE RECODIFYINf THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE BY ADOPTING
Ms. Schnabel stated she had a questions regarding 5ection 208.D2.4.F which
stated: "All ground mounted dish antennas and their mounting structures shall
be screened from the riqht of way and adjacent properties." 5he stated
screening might affect the perforn�ance of the dish itself 6ecause the dish
needs a clear shot at the satellite. It depended on what type of screeninq
they were talking about and where it was located.
Mr. Oquist stated the Community Development Comnission had discussed this
and felt screening of dishes should be required. He stated that a lot of
this wording came from sample ordinances and that require�nent was included.
Mr. Minton stated he agreed witf� screening; however, he would like to see not
only "right of way and adjacent properties" included, but also park nroperties.
Ms. Schnabel stated she questioned Section 208.03.5. Special Use Permit. She
would rather see tfiem use the variance process, rather than the special use
permit process. The variance process was a little �leaner.
Mr, Robinson stated they should publish this new ordinance in the next city
newsletter so oeople are aware of it.
XOTION BY HR. SRBA, SECONDED BY MR, KONDRICK, TO RECOM.MEND TO CITY CpUNCSL
RPPROVAL OF TNE PROPOSED ORDINANCE RECODIFYZNG 2XE FRIDLEY CSTY CODE BY
ADOPTZNG A NEW CHAPTER ZOB ENTITLED "SASELLITE DZSH ANSENNA REGULATIONS",
WITH THE FOWAWING RECOMMENDED CNANGES:
1, DELETE SEC2ION 208,03.5. SPECIAL USE PERMIT PROCESS AND NANDLE
WITN VARIRNCE PROCESS.
7. SECTION ?08.03.4,F - CP.ANGE TO READ: "ALL GROUND MOUNTED DISN
ANTENNAS AND TNEIR MOUNTED STRUCTURES SXALL 8E SCREENED FROM TNF
RIGHT-OF-WAY AND AATACENS PROPERTIES, INCLUDING PUBLIC OR PRZVAT£
PROPERTIES."
UPON A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCNNABEL DECLARED THE 11pTI0h
CARRIED UNANZIIOUSLY,
PLANNIt�G CONPIISSION MEETIN6, MAY 8, 1985 PAGE 17
10. CONMUNITY ENERGY COUNCIL fRANT APPLICATION
For Com�ission's information ontv
11. REVIEW OF AN �RDIi�ANCE RECODIFYING TNE FRIDIEY CITt' CODE BT AMENDINf
POSAL
BY
14r, Robinsnn stated they updated the existing solid waste ordinance to a11ow
for a City curb side recycling program.
MOTZON BY MR. NIEZSEN� SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK, TO RECOMMEND TO CZTY
COUNCZL APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE RECODZFYING TXE FRIDL£Y CITY CODE BY
AMENDING CHAPTER I23 ENTITLED "REFUSE DZSPDSAL° BY k6A'AMIb'G ZT "SOiZD WAG?'E
DISPOSAL AND RECYCLING COLLECTION; HY ADDZNG SECTIDNS 223.05. 113,09, M'D 113.1?
AND BY AHENDING SECTIONS 113,02, 1I3.06, 113.07, 113.10, 213,22 AND 113.13.
UPbN A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAZRWOMRN SCNNABEL DECLAR£D THE NOTIO,ti
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
12. RECEIVE MARCH 26, 1985� Ef�VIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MIWUTES:
MOTION BY MR. NIELSEN, SECONDED 8Y MR. SABR, TD RECENE TXE MARCH 26, 1985,
ENl'TRONHENTAL pUALSTY CD1�L�!ISSION MINU'_"ES,
UpON A VOICE V02'E, ALL VOTING AYE, CXAIRWOMAN SCNNABEL DECLhP.ED TX£ MOT:O,^
CARRIED UNANSMO'JSLY. ,
13. RECEIVE APRIL 1 1985 PARKS B RECREATION C�hMISSI�t� MINUTES:
MOSION BY NR. XONDHICK, SECONDED BY MR, NINTOh, TO RECEIi�E TNE APRIL 1, 1985,
PARKS 6 RECREATION COMMZSSIDN MINUTES,
UPON A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AY£, CHRIP.DIOMAV SCHNABEL DECLAP_RD THF. MOTZON
CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY.
MOTZON BY XR. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MR. MZNTI�N, TO CONCUR WI'*N THE PAP.YS &
RECREATZON CpMMISSIDN�S MOTION ON pAGE 6 OF THE HINUTES THA:" 5600 BE CHARGED
TYJ ALL NON-pROF7T GROUPS FOR THE USE OF THE COHMUNITY PARX. FOR SOFTBALL
21�URNAMEN2S AND TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COi7NCIL PHAS NO FEES BE WAZVED.
UPON A VOICE VO2E� ALL VOTING AYE� CHRIRWt7MNJ SCEINABEL DECLARED THE MOTZOd'
CARRIED UNANSMOUSLY.
14, RECEIVE APRIL 2, 1985, ENERGY PROJECT COMMITTEE MINUTES:
M01'SON By MR, SABA� SECDNDED BY MR, MINTON, 2+0 RECEIVE THE APRIL 2, 1985,
ENERGY PROJECT COMMITTEE MINUTES.
UPON A YOSCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRId7MAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE .MO?ZO.v
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
PLANNIt�G COMMISSION MEETII�G, MAY 8� 1985 PAGE 18
15, RECEIVE APRIL 4, 1985, HUMAN RESWRCES GOMM155ION MINUTES:
!lOTZON BY MR. MZNTON, SECONDED BY HR, KONDRZCK TO RECENE TAE APRIL 4, 19R5,
HlJNAN RESOURCES COMMIS5IOA' MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCNNAB£L DECLARED TNE MOTIOP7
CARRIED IINANIMOUSLY.
16. RECEIVE APRIL 9 1985 COMMUNITY DEUELOPMENT COMMf55I0N MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. OQUIST, SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICX, TO RECEIYE THE APRIL 9, 1985,
COMMUtiITY DEVEIAPHENT COMMISSION MINUTES.
UPON R VOIC£ VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAZRWOMA6' SCXNABEL D£CLARED TN.E MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Oquist stated the President of Blue Bell Ice Cream, Int., was at their
meeting asking the City to change tf�e noise ordinance to allow them to
operate their trucks. According to the ordinance, tfiey cannot even rin,r� the
bell on their ice cream trucks. They fiave gone to other cammunities, and
other communities are changing tfieir ordinances.
t4r. Oquist stated the Community Developme�t Commission made a motion askina
the City Councii to allow 21ue Scll to operate in the City until the ordinance
can be changed. He would like tfie Planning Co�ronission to concur with that
request.
Mr. Oquist stated this request was to allow only Blue Be11 Ice Crear� Co. to
operate in the City with a beTl.
Mr.Minton questioned why an exception to the ordinance shoutd be made for
one company. He would want it to be generic for any companv,
Mr. Oquist stated the ordTnance change would be for any tomoany. The reason
the motion was company-specific was because it was a specific request.
Mr. Saba stated he had no problem with the ice cream vendor driving up and
down the streets seliinq ice cream, but he did not want other vendors drivinq
up and down streets selling shrimp, paintinqs, fish, etc.
Mr, Oquist stated the only issue regarding this request was the bell (the
sound),
Mr. Robinson stated one of the restrictions proposed for the ordinance was
that the "vendor wilt not sell on major thorotighfares as discussed with
Staff". He stated he had a problem with "major thoroughfares". Were they
talki�g about tF�e major higfiways? What about very busy streets such as
7Lh St, and Mississippi St.?
Mr. Oquist stated they were primarily thfnking of the major highways.
PLANNIIiG CDNiMI55I0N MEETING, MAY 8, 1985 PAGE 19
NOTION BY MR. OQUIST, SECONDED BY 1�2, SABA, TO CONCUR WZTN TNE COk!`!i'.�'7.'`_'
�PMENT COMMISSSON TFIAT THE NOZSE ORDINANCE BE CHANGED 2t7 ALLC%P ALL
FOOD/BEVERAGE VF.XSCLE'S TG SGU1dL A MbNUALLY OPERATED BELL AS STATED IN TNF,
XOTZON ON PAGE I AND 2 OF THE APRIL 9� I985� COMMUNI.TY DEVEIAPMEN;" COM."!_TSSIO.":
NINUTES� AND TXAT TXE CZTY COUNCIL TAKE ZNTO CONSZDERATION GRANTINC AM1'
EXCEPTSON TO TH£ CURRENT ORDINANCE SO TNAT BLUE BELL IC£ CREA*1, INC., C.;1%
OPERATE DURING THE CURRENT SEASON aNTIL TKE ORDINANCE ZS CNANG£D.
t1r, Saba asked if the City would have any liability if a child got hurt
when running across the street to get to the ice cream truck because the
City allowed the vendor to operate in the City?
Ms, Schnabel stated this was definitely a concern that the PlanninQ Cormission
as
UPON A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIF.WOMAN SCHNABF.L DECZ.ARED THE MOTID':
CARRIED (TNANIMOUSLY.
il. RECEIVE APRIL 9, 1985, APPEALS COMMISSI(f�J MINUTES:
MOTSOb' BY MR. MINTON, SECONDEG BY NR. KONDRICX, TO REC£I!'E TNE APRIL 9, :9R5,
APPEALS COMMISSZON MItiUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOPE, RLL VOTING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED 2H£ MO"'70.':
CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY.
18. RECEIVE AP{;IL 16, 1985, EIJVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSIOt� MINUTES:
P10TION BY MR. NIELSEfJ, SECONDED BY MR, SABA� TO AEC£IVE THE APP.:L I6, 19B�,
ENVIRONMENTAL QURLITY COMMZSSION MZNUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL V071YG AYE, CHAZRWOMAN SCHFABE:, DECU+P�D THF MOTZO.'�
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
19. RECEIVE APRIL 23, 1985, APPEALS COMMISSI01; MI'�UTES:
MOTION BY MR. XONDRZCK, SECONDED BY MR. OpU75T, TO RECEIVE TXE APRIL 23, 2985,
APPEALS COMMISSIDN MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CXAIHWOHAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TXE MOSZON
CARRIED UNANIXDUSLY.
20. OTHER BUSIt1ESS:
a. Discussion Concerning Proposed Mental Health Facility in fridley
Mr. Kondrick stated he had watched the Citv Council meeting on Cable TV
on Monday, April 17, He stated he felt that after hearing the testimonv
PLANNING LOMMISSION MEETIN6, lIAY 8 L 1995 PA&E 20
at the April 3 Planning Commission meetinq both from Lhe neighbors and
others in the audie�ce, in lieu of tRe information the Comnissioners
had received regarding past experientes for tf�is kind of facilit,y in the
Lity of Brooklyn Center, and also the fact tfiat he serves on a Commission
with very sharp people who asked good, probing, interesting questions,
he felt the Cottmiss'on had been slighted. He felt the Planning Cor�mission
was looked down upon at the City Council meeting as a"bunch of dummies"
wfio acted rashly on inPormation,
Mr. Kondrick stated one City Councilman said he, too, was "shocked" at the
outcome of the Planning Commission's decision. Mr. Kondrick stated he
felt the P.lanning Comnission's decision was not shocking at all. It was
a very difficult decision to make, and he felt they acted on the information
they had and were satisfied with the action they took at that meeting.
Mr, Kondrick stated he felt confident serving on this Commission with
people who are interesting, smart, we11 versed in the Citv, carinq, who
can make decisions without politics always befng involved� and who always
have the best interests of the people at heart. He was oroud to serve on
this Commission, and he dfd not think t�ey had done a bad thinq or should
be considered as making "shocking" decisions on the facts that they had
before them at that meeting.
Mr. Kondrick stated he resented the Planninc� Corrnission being vdewed as
a bunch of dumnies. If that was the feelinq, then ma,ybe there shouldn't
6e a Planning Commission.
Mr. Saba stated what bothered him was there were some statements made
that the City Council was not sure the court decision in the Citv of
Brook]yn C�nter would even affect Frid7ey. Yet, the Attorney General
of the State of Minnesota made the statement that not even an R-1 district
can deny this type of faci]ity. That statement was made on television as
part of the WCCQ special on mental health.
Mr. Oquist stated that informatiort was also provided to the Planninq
Commission in the forn of a memo from the City Attorney.
Mr. Saba stated that if that memo 6ad no relevance in the Planninn
Commission's decision, then that memo should not have been given to them.
Mr. Minton stated he felt the Cortenission did their job extremely con-
scientiously. If a City Council member made the statement Mr. Kondrick
had stated, then he felt it was up to that City Council person to exolain
that statement to the Planning Comission. As he remembered the testi-
mony at the April 3 Planning Commission meeting, he felt it fell into
certain categories such as: (lj It was 6ad for the neighborhood; (2) It
was dangerous to the children; (3; Tf�e house was not appropriate; and
(4} It was bad for business including rental property and day care providers
ih tF�e area.
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_ANNIi�G COMMI5510N MEETIN6, MAY 8, 1985 PAGE 21
Mr, Minton stated he did not think anv af the reasons he had heard had
merit. There were studies to refute almost everything they said. The
only consideration was fear, and if the Comr�ission had given into that,
it would be perpetuating a stigma and a stereotyping that is not justified.
For ooliticians who want to be re-elected, it might take more courage far
them to come to the same Conclusion; but he thought it was awfuily
impartant that they do. Otherwise, they, too, will be helping perpetuate
these kinds of stereotvpes. ,
Mr. Kondrick agreed. He hoped the City Council had the courage to aqree
rri th the Planning Comnission's decision,
Ms. Schnabel stated she found tfie prograr�s on WCCO, Channel 4, very
enlightening, and she had great hopes they would help the neighbors and
certain members of the Council come to some conclusions that mavbe this mental
healtf� facility was not a detrimental tfiing to any neighborhooei_--that
these people are kind, loving, ihdividuals, wfio need sor�e guidance and
help along the way, and that they shouldn't be feared nor should a facilitv
like this he feared in any neigh6orfiood. But, she did not see that the
program helped change anyone's mind, Sfie found it additionally informative
over the.inforrtt�tion they fiad received at tfie Flanninq Conmission meetino
and it helped reconfirm the decision they had made. She felt the infor+na-
tion had been very valuable in that sense.
Ms. Schnabel stated she had tilked to to someone who lives near this
neighborhood and who could not be at tf�e April 3 Planning Cor�mission
meeting, Ms. Scf�nabel had asked her reaction of the situation, and this
person had stated she really had a hard time with the State mandatina
something that comes down into the local neighborhood telling them what
they have to have in their neighborhood--that they have no choice in the
matter.
Ms. Schnabel stated that in some ways, she could understand that viewpoint,
and it was a valid concern, It was one of the very few really legitimate
expressions she had heard.
Mr. Oquist stated the State is mandating it, but if the City can prove
the health, safety, welfare, kind of thing, then the City can deny it, If
they didn't have those kinds of restriction5 or governmental interferences,
then that says we should no longer have biacks in our neighborhoods or
that we should no longer have handicapped pe�ple in our neighborhoods, etc.
There has to be some control or thev can become very restrictive. He
stated he was against government interference, but it has to be somethinq
to protect the messes, rather than the individuals.
Mr, Minton stated when it comes to the matter of AuMan rights and civil
rights, then the government has an obligation to play a role.'
Ms. Schnabel stated several people in the audience at the April 3
Ptanning Cortmission meeting said tfie facility shouldn't be allowed because
it was a comnercial venture and would change the character of the neighbor-
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 8, 19B5 PAGE 22
hood, etc. Yet, all those apartments in that neighborhood are commercial
ventures and the daycare centers are comnercial ventures.
Ms, 5chnabel stated that regarding the needs for the facitity, aspecially
tfie eight bedrooms, it would probably be very difficult to find any other
residence in Anoka County that fias eigfit 6edrooms or is targe enough to
conyert into eigfit bedrooms,
b. Retirement of Dorothy Evenson, Planning Department Secretary
Ms. Schna6ei stated that Dorothy Evenson retired from the City on Friday,
May 3. She stated she rrould like to express hnw much the Plannina
Commission has appreciated Dorothy's efforts over the years on behalf
of tfie planning Department and the PTanning Comrtission, Dorothy has
really been the "glue" that fias held them all together, and she will
be sorely missed.
ADJOUP,t4F1EN7:
MOTION BY MR. XINTON, SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK, TO ADJDURN THE MEETING. UPON A
VDZCE YOTE, ALL VOSING AYE, CHAIRWOMAN SCXNAPEL DECLARED TXE MAY 8, 19B5, PLAA'NING
COHMISSION MEE.ING ADJOURNED AT 11:15 P.M.
Res ectfully sub itted,
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FUBLIC HEARIN6
BEFORE THE
PLkN�IN6 COMMI5S10�
Notice is herety given that there will be a Public Hearing of the
Planning Cortcnission of the City of fridley in the City Hall at 6431
University Avenue Northeast on Wednesday, May 8, 1985
in the Council Chamber at 7:30 P.M, for the purpose of:
Consideration of a Special Use Permit, SP �85-03,
Fridley Convalescent Home, by Betty J. Wall, per
Section 205.07,1, C, 6, of the Fridley City Code,
to allow parking lot expansion on Lot 1, Block 1,
Maple Manor Addition, the same being 7590 Lyric
Lane N.E.
Any and a>> persons desiring to be heard sha11 be given an opportunity
at the above stated time and place.
VIRGI?1IA SCH'�AE�L
CHA I Rid�MA��
PLANNING CQMMISS10t;
Pu�lish: April 22, 1985
April 29, 1985
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CITY OF FAIDL6Y�
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iA�OIEY, MN. 65e3! t6'1� 871-3�60
PLANNIN6 COM�tISS
CITY CQUNCIL:
5?IPULAT10N5:
NAMf �
5/8/85 '
SUBJECT
SPfCIAI USE PERMIT
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SP !��
APPROYED DISADDROYED DAtE N0.
APPRQVED DISAPPROYED DATf N0.
STREET LOCAT20N OF PROPERTY
QO �RECEIPT NO �l��
LEGfiI DESCRIPTION Of ,PROPER?Y j,('� 1 i/'S1Lj'�l Y xj".�['J�1
PRfSENT ZONING CIASSIFICATSON R-1 EXISTING USE OF PROPERTY
ERTY
Section of the Code:
BE BRIEFLY THE SPECIAL USE APPLIED FOR:
Has the present apQlicant previously sought to rezone. plat, obtain a 1ot split or
variance or special use permit on the subject site or part of it? ____,yes no.
What aas requested and when? �'tWk. t�6
The undersigned understands that: (a) A list of a11 residents and owners of pro�er-
ty within 200 feet wi11 be attached to this application. ..
'' � � �• '(b) This application must be sig�ed
by aTl pvners of the propepty, or an exp2anation �iven vfiy this is �ot tAe case.
(ca Responsibility for any Jefect in the proceedings resulting from the failure to
tist the names and addresss of all residents and property owenrs of propQrty in
q�stion. belongs to the undersigned.
A sicltch of proposed property and structure must be drawn and artached. showing the
tolTowing: t. North direction. 2. Location of tbe proQosed structure on the lot.
3. Diwensions of property, p�oposed structure, and fron and side setbacks. 4. Street
names. 5. Location and use of adjacent existing buildings (within 350 feet).
The undersiJned hereby declares that a11 the facts and respresentations stated in
this application are true and correct.
DATE �^^� a `� ��S
�ODRESS
��Lc�f.l,�„ TELEPHONE NO 78b � 7���
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Planning Commission
City Council
MAILING LIST
SP #85-03, fridley Convalesceat Home
7590 Lyric Lane N.E.
North Suburban Hospital District
Unity Hospital
550 Osborne Road N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Attn: John Haines
Highland Park Development Co.
540 Greenhaven Road
Anoka, MN 55303
R. J. Rupper, C. A. lowe
and C�ler E. LaSalle
620 Osborne Road N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
PDq Stores of PiN, Inc.
3310 University Avenue
Madison, WI 537�5
Mr. & Mrs. Bruce Barsness
7589 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. 8 Mrs. Thomas Nielsen
7583 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. 8 Mrs. William Orr
7577 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Ptr. & Mrs. Jerome Ruhn
7573 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Ms. Janice Carroll
7567 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Hr. & Mrs. Dwight Beglau
7563 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
�ir. & P1rs. Harley Thureen
7559 Lyric Lane N.E.
Frid7!ey, MN 55432
Mr. & Hr. Denis Christianson
7553 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
ril 17, 1985 26
Mr. & Mr.s Lloyd LarsQn
1549 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
�4r. & Mrs. Urbin Mayer
7445 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. William Schocinski
7539 Lyric Lane N.E.
fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. P1ark Kennedy
7534 Tempo Terrace N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Lowell Erickson
7536 Tempo Terrace PI.E.
Fridl ey, PiN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Kenneth Westeren
7530 Tempo Terrace N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Howard Rassier
754� Tempo Terrace N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. S Mrs. John Podeszwa
7542 Tempo Terrace N.E.
Fridley, HN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Ted Quien Jr.
7544 Tempo Terrace N.E.
Fridley, MN 55A32
Mr. & Nrs. Noel Hanssen
7546 Tempo Terrace N.E.
Fridley, FiN 55432
Mr, & Mrs. James Klingle
7548 Tempo Terrace N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Tim Breider
7550 Tempo Terrace N.E.
Fridley, NN 55432
F.M.C. S Associates
7675 Madison Street N.E.
fridley, MP7 55432
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SP #85-03, fridley Convalescent Home
7590 Lyric Lane N.E.
Page 2
Mr. & Mrs. Philip Burns
7600 Jackson Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Vernon Buchli
7618 Jackson Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. R. J. Zembal
7634 Jackson Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Brian Kocher
7650 Jackson Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. & Mrs. Gilbert Flaig
7580 Jackson Street N.E�:
Fridley, MN 55432
Betty J. Wall
Fridley Convalescent Home
7590 Lyric Lane N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
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PUBLIC NEARING
BEFORE THE
PLANNIN6 COPIMISSION
Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the
Planning Conmiission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at b431
University Avenue Northeast on Wednesday, 4ay S, 19&5
in the Council Chamber at 7:30 P.M. for the purpose of:
Consideration of a Special Use Permit, SP #85-04,
by Lance A. Lindman, per Section 205.07.1, 3, A,
of the Fridley City Code, to allow the construction
of a second accessory building, a 20 x 16 foot
garage, to be used for storage of a classic car,
on Lot 2b and the North 25 feet of Lot 25, Block
16, Plymouth including the vacated alley, the same
being 4565 - 3rd Street N.E.
Any and e�1 persons desiring to be heard shall be given an opportunity
at the above stated time and place.
UlRGIrd1A SCH".'F,E�L
CHAIRW�MA';
PLANNING COMMISSION
Publish: April 22, 1985
April 29, 1985
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t4�11JNIVER1fi1TY AV6 N6
FRIOLEI'. MN. R5S3t [61Z167��'•M60
SpECIAI USE PEW�IIT SP # ��"O
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ADDRESS �i 5(o S 3Q.�. S'�, --- 1�I � OATE ��%F:
PWiNING COMMISSION: APPROVED DISAPPROYED DATE N0.
CITY COUNCIL:
STIPULATIONS:
APPROYED DISAPPROYED DATE NO
NAME �- A hl GE �I L�N D� A N FEE �° J' RECEIPT NO I�� 1 �a
STREET LOCATION Of PROPERTY �}S(o5 �QC�I S i. i�l �
LEGAL DfSCRIPTION OF.PROPERTY Lo-�_a.� �e�_�lQ__._�5 �{___C� _1.�,'!- �.S_�lcx-� i
PRESENT tONING CLASSIfILATION (�- � EXISTING USE Of PROPERTY �es c��
ACREAGE OF PROPERTY DESCRIBE BRIEfIY THE SPECIAL USE APPLIED
- x �.., � �,� rv> ,..._
CA.�
Sect on of the C e:� �-o x 1 L (
Has the present applitant previously sought to rezone, plat, obtain a lot sp]it or
variance or special use Qermit on the subject site or part of it? �_�yes x no.
What was requested and when?
The undersigned understands that: (a) A list of a11 residents and owners of proper-
ty within L00 feet wiil be attached to this application. ..
'' ' � '(b) This application must be signed
�y ail owners of tAe propeNty, or an expianation �iven why this is not the case.
(c) Responsibility for any Jefect in the proceedings resulting from the failure to
list the names and addresss of a11 residents dnd property owenrs of property in
question, belon9s to the undersigned.
A sketth of proposed property and structure nust be d�awn and a{tached. showing the
following: 1, North direction. 2. tocation of the proposed structure on the tot.
3. Diaensions of property. proposed st�ucture, and fron and side setbacks. 4. Street
names. 5. location and use of adjacent existing buildings (within 350 feet).
The undersigned hereby declares that all the facts anC respresentations stated in
this application are true and correct. �
DATE A�a� L 5 1985 SI6NATURE� G' _
ADDRESS �S(oS 3�tcl ST !�c - TELEPHONE NO 57�-1S7�L
SP �85-04, Lance Lindman
4565 - 3rd Street N.E.
John Dzubay
4519 - 3rd Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
Ricky L. Okerstrom
4537 - 3rd Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
Gordon R. Peterson
4555 - 3rd Street
Fridley, MN 55421
Lance A. Lindman
4565 - 3rd Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
Oarleen D. Grosz
4575 - 3rd Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
Robert R. Archer
4595 - 3rd Street N.E.
fridley, MN 55421
Synneva Reno
4590 - 3rd Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
Charles D. Nowe
4560 - 3rd Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
Lemoyne M. Jorgenson
4544 - 3rd Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
Howard J. Friis
4538 - 3rd Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
Theodore G. Meinders
4526 - 3rd Street N.E.
Frid1ey, MN 55421
John A. Kaminski
4578 - 3rd Street N,E.
Fridley, MN 55421
Loren D, Smerud
4603 - 3rd Street h.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
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Planning Commission AnrT___1 U , ]QRS
City Council
MAILING LIST
Steven E. Renkert
4539 - 2 1J2 Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
Bradley F. Gavanda
4551 - 2 1/2 Street N.E.
fridley, MN 55421
James R, Heniges
4561 - 2 1/2 Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
William D. Camp
4571 - 2 1/2 Street N.E.
fridley, MN 55421
Jahn A. Boucher
4591 - 2 1/2 Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
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AN ORDZNANCE RECODIFYIHG TS3E FRIDLEY CITY CODE BY Al�IiDING
CEAPTER 21�F IIiTITLED •SIGNS�� SECTIONS 214.02, 21�.14�
21�1.17 � 21L.21
SgE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY QF FRIDLEY AOES ORDAIN AS FOLLOHS:
214.02. DEFINITIOAS
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214.14. SHOPPING CBIiTERS AIiD MOLTIPLE USE BOIl.DINGS
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274.17, EYISTING SIGNS
2, LeEal Nonconforming Signs.
//B. A si€n shall i�ediately lose its "legal nonconforming^ designaticn
if:
(1) The sign is altered in ar.p way which makes the siEn les� in
compliance with the requiredents of this Chapter than it va� before
the alLeraticns except for routine mair.ter,ance and change of inessa�e�.
(2) The sign is relocated.
(3) The sign is reylace�.
(4) The si�n becomes dilapidated or damaged and the cost of brir.gin�
it into compliance is more than 50 percent (SOA) of tte value cf saic
siEn, at xhich time all of the sign and its structure must be
removed.//
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21�. SIGNS
tAef. 318� 33D, 3��� 382. �38. 666, bT2, 799)
omendmentaeto tAe Chapter enacteddDy thefCity Co ncil9prior to asid date)11
214.01. P�APOSE
She pyrpox of thi� CBapter ia to qrotect and promote the pu�lic De�ltb,
safety and general velfare of Lhe City of Fridley tArough Lhe entablishment
of • oomDrehenaive and impartial aet of regulatlo�s governing the erection,
diaplay and uae of aign� aerving as a viaual media to yeraons upon pubiic
or private properties. These regulatioaa are intended to provide an
opportunity for effeative communication, allox a reasonaDle treedom of
choice and promote a concern for the visual amenities on those people
designing, displaying, erecting or utilizing sign� vhile at the aame time
assuring that the public healtd, aafety and general ++elfare of the City is
pre�erved.
214.02. DEFIYITIOIIS
The follo�+ing vords and terms, wherever CAey occur in this Crispter, are
defined as follows and ahall apply in it� interpretation end applicatien:
1. Abandoned Sign.
A algn which no longer correctly advertiaes a bona flde buainess, lensor,
owner, activity, use or product avallaDle on the premlees vhere the algn Ss
displayed for a continuous period of more than three (3)�nthn.
2, lddreas Sign.
A aign consisting of numbers or numbers and a street name, identifying the
address of a building.
3. Advertiaiag 31gn.
A aign vhich is uxd to advertise products, goods, uaes or aervices.
4, llteratiop.
Any ma3or change, excluding routine maintenance, of an exi�ting �ign.
5, Ares Identification Siga.
A siga vhich identifie� t6e name of a nelghborhood, a residential
subdivieion, a multiple residential comDlex or a business or industrial
araa.
6, BRnnera and Peanants.
l temporary aign constructed of cloth, canvaas, paper, plaatic film or
light fabric.
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Purpoae
Derinitiocu
214-01
214.02.17
7, Heach Siga.
b aign vhich Sa attached to a Dench.
8. Bi1lDoard.
� sign advertising a business, product, aervice, uae or entertaioment xhich
ia conducted, aold or offerod aomewhere otAer than on the preaiaea vhere
tEe sign is located.
g, CLangeable sign, �uto�atic.
ln electronically controlled aign, including a time, temperature or date
sign, or a mensage center or a readerboard, vhere different message changes
are shown on the aame panel.
10. Changeable Siga, Nsnual.
A eign on which the oessage Sa changed manual�y.
11. Constructioa Sign.
A temporary aign erected at a constrnetion aite identifying the project.
It may include Lhe name of the architect, engineer, contractor, financier
or other informatSon sbout the project.
�Z. Diatrict.
A zoning district as defined in Chapter 205, 7.onin8� of the City Code.
t3, Fla�hing Siga.
An illuminated �ign xhich has intermittent fla�hing lights, revolving
beacons, zip flashers or exhibits a noticeable change in color or light
intensity.
14. Free Standing Siga.
A aign wAich ia aecurely attached to the ground and not attached to any
part of a building or atructure.
15. Govern�ental Sign.
A sign xhich ia erected by e governmental unit for the purPose of directing
or guiding traffic or providing public information.
16. Illuminated Siga.
A aign rhich ia illuminated by an artificial llght aource.
tq, Inforaatioa S1gn.
l aign giving lnformation or directions to employees, visitora or de]ivery
vehicles and rnntaining no advertiaiag. An informetion aign aaq di�Dlay
the name, address or identifying aymDol of the business.
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18. Inetitutionsl Sign.
A aign vhich identlfies a public or yrivate institution including churches,
echoola, hoepital� snd medical cliaic�.
19. lbtion Sign.
l sign whicA revolvee, rotaten, has aoving parta or gives the illusion of
�otion.
20. :oncwntorsing Sign, Legal.
l aiga which laxfully ezisted prior to the adoption of tbis Chapter, but
does not comply vith all requirementa of th1� Chapter.
21. Permanent Siga.
A sign constructed of mate�lals including plastic or metal that are durable
and easily maintained, and xhlch is lntended to be ux d for an indefinite
period oT time. Signa painted directly on atructures, xood or wood
products are not authorized or Sncluded in this definition.
22, Politieal Sign.
A temporary nlgn advertiaing election issue� or the ca�didacy of a person
cunning for public office.
23. PorteDle Sign.
A temporary aign designed to be moved from one loaation to another and
which is not permanently attached to the ground, a aign etruoture or a
buildiag.
2L, Yorta-panel.
A portable aign, mounted on wheels and used for commercial as well as civic
promotior�s.
25. Pro�ecting Sign.
A aign attached Lo a wall, that pro�ects perpendicular from a build+rg or
structure,
�, Aeal Satate Sign.
A temporary aign erected for the purpose of se111ng, leasing or promoting
real e�tate.
p7. Aoof Siga.
l sign rhich is erected, consiructed or attached above Lhe roof line of a
Duilding, exceyt vhere the roof ia an extended facadde or man�ard.
zia. oz�b't
214-03
21a.o2.37
28. RummaBe/Garage Sale Slgn.
A temporary aign xhich advcrtiaea or directa the publlc to the aale of uaed
merchandist, aald from a private reaidence.
py, gpopaing Center/Multiple IIae Buildis►g.
A building plenned and 6evtlope8 tor ■ultiple oceupancp vhethar as a
eommercial or industrial uae.
;0. El.sn.
� painted panel, lettered Doard, aeriea of letters or
diapley snd any aupportiag atructure uned Lo Rdvertiae,
inform or oonvey a message to anyone who viexa it.
31. Siga �rea.
aymbols or oiher
direct, identify,
The area of a eign, including tde Dorder and the aurface whlch bears the
advertisement. In the Case of �eaaages, figures or nymbols attached
directly to any part of a Duilding or aign atructure, it ia that area which
is included in the amalleat geometric tigure vhich can be made Lo
circumscribe the measage, figure or aymbol.
32. Sign Area, Nazit�s•
The maximum ellowable aign erea for a aingle faced free atanding aign
refers Co that aingle facing. ilhen a free atanding �ign has multiple
faces, then the maxlmum allovable aign area douDles.
33• Sign Structure.
Any atructure which �upport� or is capable of aupporting a sign, but not
including a building to which a aign is attached.
34, TeaporarT Sign.
Any aign, banner, pennant, valance or advertising dSsplay intended to De
displayed for a limite8 period of time.
35. Wall Graphic.
A graphic design or decorat3ve mural, aot intended for identification or
advertising purposes, vhich is painted directly on the exterior surface of
a building.
36. Yall sign.
l aign vhich ia attaehed to the xall of a building or atructure.
37. Yindov sign.
� sig� attached to the
outaide the building.
YSACDY.
214-04
inside of a vindov for the purpose af riexing froa
This term does aot include merchandise located in a
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214.03. GEIfERAI. PA09I3IO11S FOA ALL DISSRIClS
The following provisions ahall apply to Sectionn 21Y.04 through 214.07.
Any nign ahall be constructed in auch •�nnner and of anch material that 1L
vill De aafe and autrstantial. Nothing in this Chapter ahall De interpreted
as authorizing t1�e erection or diaplay of any sign not aar permlttad under
Cd7�ptar 205 of t6e City Code.
2�K,p�, SICNS PHOHIBITED 7]i AI.L DISTHICtS
1, Any permanent eigna, other than governmental ai8na, srected or
displayed upon any right of xay or puDlic property.
p. Any �igns or xall graphlcs that oontain words or pictures of obacene,
pornographic or immoral charactcr.
3, Any aigns paiated directly on Duildinga.
71. Any aigns wl�ich Dy reason ot eise, location, ■ovement, content,
coloring or manner of illumination may De confuaed vith the light of an
emergency or road equipment vehicle, • traffic aign, nignal or devlce or
which hides from vieW any traffic aign, aignal or device.
5, Any profecting algns.
6. Any motion nigns.
7. Any flashing aign�.
8. Any aigns located within a corner viaion safety zone as defined in
Chapter 205.
21q.05• SIGNS P6RMITTED IN ALL DISfRICfS
1. Addreas Sigm.
Each dwelling, business or building must have a minimum of one (1) address
sign, that is a minimum of three and one-half (3-1l2) inches high and a
maximum of twenty-four (24l inches hlgh. The aign must be illuminated or
reflective and vi�iDle from the puDlic right of vay.
p. ScDCh Siga�.
Diaplayed only at Dun atops end cannot be eny larger than or extend beyond
any yortion of the Dench.
3. RrBa.
Sball be displayed as outlined in ?itle 36, �etion 173-378 of tbe Onited
State� Code, State Flag and Corporate Flag. i�e Chapter 802)
214.05.3
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General
Pro�lnion�
Slgas
Prohiblted
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Slgna
Permitted
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Districts
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Governsectal Signs.
Iaforsational Signs.
Provided t�ey meet the follwing reQuiremeata:
�, A aaximum aize of four (A} aQuare feet in area.
B. l■inimum d��tance of tea i10) teet from any DroperL� line or
drivexay.
6. Institutional Signs.
provided tbey meet the following reQuirementa:
A. A■axlmum size of thirty-tvo (32) aquare feet Sa area.
B, A minimum diatance of ten (1D) feet from any Droperty line or
drive�ay.
C. A kw�pital emergency aign may be a eaximum of 100 aquare feet in
area.
214.06. TF?lPORAAY SIGNS PBAMITTED 7) 11LL DISTRIC2S
1. Construction Signa.
A. Multiple Developments. Construction aigrts may be erected for the
purpose of Sdentitj�ing a development of ten (70) or more dwellir�gs, ten
(1�) or more mobile homes, three (33 or more multiple dxellings, or a
Duilding consisting of three (3) or more businesses or industries, xith
the follo�ring restrictions: ,
(1) One ii) eign per atreet trontage.
(p) A eaxioum eize of fifty {50) squsre feet in area per
developsent.
(3) Located no cloaer than 100 feet to a building outslde the
development.
(�I) A minimum distance of ten (10) feet from any property line or
drivevay.
(5) io De re�oved upon oompletion of the construction.
B. Other Developmenta.
(t) One (1) aign per building.
(2J A maximum aize of aia (63 equare feet in area.
(3) A minimum distance of ten (103 feet from any property line or
drivewap.
(4) io be re�oved upon completion of the conatruction.
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Temporery
Sigas
Yermitted
in A11
DSstricta
2, �eal Estate Sitets.
�. Multiple Developmenta. Real eatste algea esY be erected for the
purpo�e of aelling, leasing or promoting development of ten (70) or
aore dvelling�, ten (10) or sore �obile home�, t�ree (3� or eore
■ultiple dwellings or a Duilding COADI�LIR$ of t�ree i3) or aore
businesaes er industries, vith Lhe tollo�iqg restrictiona:
:�1i One (/3 ai� per straet lronta6e.
(2) ♦�azi�ua sis• of tift� (50) aquare feet ia area per
developaent.
(j) Located no cloaer than 100 teet to a Duildiag outside of the
development.
(h) To be removed vhen the pro�ect ia ninety-five percent (95i)
aold or lea�ed.
(5} A ninimum dintaace of ten (10} feet from any Droperty line or
driveway.
B. Other Developmeat�.
(1) One (1) nign per building.
(2) A maximum aize of six (6? �quere feet in area.
(3) To De removed within five (5) days following the aale or leane
of Lhe building.
(4) A minimum distance of ten (10) feet from any property line or
d�iveway.
i5) "Open House" aigna are allwed only during the day of the open
house,
3, Political Signs.
A. A maximum size of thirty-tWO (32} aquare feet in area.
$. To be removed within five (5) day� folloving the election.
C. Flfteen dollars (�15•00) vill be deposited xith the City Drior to
the erectioa of any aigns and retained until all of the aigna are
removed. If all of the signs are not removed, the depoait vill be used
Lo defray the coat of removal. Any additional cost will be billed to
the person poatiag the original deDosit.
p, A[�y aign larger tAan three (3) aquare feet in area muat be placed a
�einimum distance of ten (10) feet frnm a atreet curb and ten (l0) feet
from any driveway.
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A�
214-07
214.09.2H
a. A,���c.r.B� s.i� s�.
e.
B.
A�axS.mum aize of tnree (3) aq�n reet in aroa.
To De rmoved vithin t6ree (3) days folloving tAt sale•
5, S�nnera or Pennants.
�. Sannera or pennanta commemorating a special eveqt not oannected
vitE • buainess, are yermitted when inatalled not eore than Lxenty-five
I25) daY� Drior to the event snd removed within tive (5) daya folloxing
t�e event.
B. 8anriers or pennanta for busine�s aaniveraarlea or grand openings
sre allw+ed only for a ma:imi� of ten (10} daqa.
21L.07. SIGNS PERMITTED HIT9 1 SPECIAL OSfi PSRMIT
1. Automatic changeaDle aigns are permitted in all districte except
residential districts, and then only after the issuance of a apecial use
permit aubject Lo the following minimum conditions:
A. Conformance to the aign requirements vithin that district.
8. The message ahall not chenge more than once every fifteen (15)
minutes except for a sign displaying time, temperature snd/or date.
2. Billboards
21Y.06. SPBCIFIC DISTAICT REQUIRII�NT'S
In addition Co Chose aigns permitted in all districts, the folloving aigns
are permitted in each �pecific district and ahall be regulated ns to type,
aize and aetback according to the follo�ing requlrements.
214,09, TYPES, SIZES AI(D SETBACRS FOA RESIDE[7TIAL DISTRIL7S
1. Area Identification Sigos.
A. One (7) aign per development.
8. A maximum aize of twenty-four (24) aquare feet in area.
C. A minimum distance of ten (10) feet from sny property line or
drivevay.
p, Yall Sign�.
♦, Oae (1} aign per dwelling unit.
8. A maximum aize of three (3) aquare feet in area.
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Sigas
Permitted
ilith Special
Use Pereit
Speciflc
District
Aequirement�
Resldentlal
Dlstricts
210.10. STPBS, SIZB3 l�D s��►C[S FOR CR-1 DISTRICTS
�, �res Ideatificstion Signs.
t. One i1) aign per development.
8, � aaximum eize of twenty-four (24) aquare feet in area.
C. � aininum diatance of ten (10) fett from any propert7 line or
dri�exay.
2. 8ree Standing SSgne.
�3
�
A. Oae (1) aign per street frontage.
B, A maximum nize of forty-eight (�18) aquare feet in area per
development.
C, A maximum height of aix (6) feet above the finiehed ground grade.
D. A minimum diatance of ten (103 feet from any property line or
drivexay.
Root Sigaa.
A. One (1) aign per development.
H. The use of a roof sign will aubstitute for the free atanding �ign
a]ong Lhe street the roof sign is intended to be vie�ed.
Yindox Signs.
A maximum coverage of forty percent (LOf) of t�e window area, excluding
merchandise.
5. liall Signn.
The total aign area ahall not exceed fifteen (15) times t�e aquare root of
the xall length on xhich Lhe sign ia to be placed.
6. Portable Signa.
May De displayed after a permit is lssued Dy the City. Permits are limited
to three (3) times per year, per Dusiaess, and only for aonconsecutive ten
(10) Aay periods.
p��,��, TYPES, SIZES AUD SETBACES FOR C-t, C-2 AYD C-3 DISTRICTS
1. �rea Identification Sigaa.
d. Oae (i? aign per development.
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Diatrict
C-1, C-2
and C-3
Districta
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8. A maximum aize of tventy-fonr (2Y) aquare feet ia ana.
C. A sinimum diatence of ten (10) feet from any property line or
drivexay.
p, lree Standing 31gaa.
�, Oae (1) aign per street frontage.
B. A�aximum aize of eighty (8�) aquare feet in area per developmeat.
�, � maximum height of twenty-five (25) feet above the finished ground
srade.
D. A minimum height of ten (1Qi feet from the bottom of the aign Lo
the finished ground grade vhen vithin twenty-five (25) feet of a
drivevay or a corner vialoa eafety sone.
E. A minimum diatence of ten (70) feet trom any property line or
driveway.
F. A■inimum di�tance of flfty i50) feet from any re�idential
district.
3. Roof Sigas.
A. One (1) aign per development.
B. The use of a roof aign vill aubstitute for the free standing �ign
along Lhe �treet the roof aign ia intended to be vleved.
Y. Yindor Sign�.
A maximum coverage of forty perctat 100x) of the Kindow area, excluding
merchandise.
5. Yall Sigas.
The kotal aign area ahall not exceed flfteen (15) tlmes the �quare root of
the wall length on which the sign is to De Dlaced.
6. PortaDle Signs.
May be displayed after a permit is is�ued Dy the C1ty. Permits are limited
to three (3) times per year, per buainesa, and only for nonconsecutive ten
(�0} day periods.
7, Hi1lEoarda.
$ball Oe pe+mitted only in the G3 �istrict withia this Section. Specific
raQuirements are linted under Section 21A.12.7•
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214.12. ?IPES, SIZ83 �D S6T'6AC[S TOR M-1 �ID M-2 DISTSICTS N-1 and M-2
Districta
1. �na IdeotiflcatSon Sisas.
�, One (i) sign per Qevelopsent.
�, t aazi��m aise of tveat�-four (2�? sQuare teet ia ar��•
C. 1 einimum diat�nce ot tea (10) feet lrom aay yropert� liae or
dri�way.
!. tret StaeEin; 31=as.
�, One (1) �isn per street froatage.
B, l�azi�um size of �ishty (SQ) aQuare feet in area per development.
C. A aximum height of tventy-five (25) feet above the finished ground
6rade.
D. A minimum height of ten (10) feet irom the botiom of the aign to
the finished ground grsde vhen vithia tventy-five (25) teet of a
drivexay or a corner vieion safety soae.
E. A■inimum distance of ten (10? feet from any property line or
drive�ay.
F. A m3nlmum dietance of fifty (50) feet trom any residenti�l
district.
3. Roof Signa.
A. One (1) sign per develoyment.
8. She u�e of t roof aign vill subatitute for the free etanding aign
along the atreet the root aign 1a intended to be viewed.
q. Yindov Sigaa.
A maximum coverage of forty perceat (i0f) of the window area, excluding
mercLandise.
5. Yall Signa.
•. Allowe6 oaly oa tvo (2) different valla per bu�inesa.
8. Tbe total sign �ree ahall eot sxceed fifteen (15) times the aquare
root of tbe vell lengtA on vhich the aign Sa to bc ylaced.
6. PortaDle Signs.
May be disPlayed after a perm2t ia iasued Dy the City. Permita are limited
Co t2iree (3l times per �ear� per Dusiness, and only 1or aoneenaecutive ten
(10) day p�rioda.
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214.12.7J
7. BI11Doards.
Shall �e �ermitted in only C-3� M-1 •nd M-2 Districta. The folloviag
reqUirementn ahall be conaidered a� ninlIDUm atandard� vAen iaauing a
apecisl uae permit to erect a Oillboard. ?4e City Councll eay impoee
additional reyuirmenta.
�. Billboarde s6s11 De restricted to prnperty adjoining tDe right of
vayn of Interatate Highvay i694, Trunk Aighwsy /47, Truak Big�vay �65
and East River Aoad aouth of Interatate 8ighway f694.
8. The maxim� Aeight is tventy-five (25? feet a�ove the finiahed
ground grade, unless tbe algn ia intended to De viewed from a highvay,
then tbe Cxenty-tive (25) foot oaximum deight ahall be computed from
the centerline of tbe traveled hlghxay, but in no ca�e ahall Lhe
vertical distance Detweea the Dottom of the eign and the ground De
reduced to le�s than tea (10) feet.
C. The mazimum algn area Sa three hundred (300) aQuare feet per
facing, not to e:ceed two (2) facings xhen erected on East Aiver road
aouth of Interstste Highwey 1694, on Srunlc Highvay 147 and on Trunk
HighwaY 165; and 750 aquare feet per facing, not to exceed Cvo (2)
facings when erected on Interstate Highway 1644. DouDle faced aigns
ahall be attached back to baek at a Lorizontsl angle not to e:ceed
torty-five (45) degrees.
D. The minimum diatanct betveen billboard aign� is 1000 feet vhen
erected on the aame alde of Che t�ighway.
E. The minimum aetDack from the higi�way right of vay la thirty (3o)
feet.
F. The minimum diatance ia 500 feet from a Dillbosrd aign to the
intersection of any street or ramp �here Craffic crosses or merges at
the aame elevation. The distance ia determined Dy measuring from the
intersection of the atreet and pighvaY centerllnes and the eign.
G. The minimum distanee io a re�i8ential and public district ia 500
feet.
N. The eign atructure ahall be all metal and be either painted or
treated to prenent deterioration. Lsek of proper maintenance ahall be
cau�e for revocation of the aign pe�it.
I, The minimum distance La a railroed crossing is 350 feet When Lhere
are lights and a gate, and 500 feet from a railroad crossing xithout
lights and/or a gate.
J. �ny lighting vill Oe ahielded to not impalr tt�e vieion of aay motor
•ehicle operator or to create a nuisance on adjoining propert�.
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21C,13. T2PSS, SIZES 111D BETBAC6S FOR P�/D POD DIS'lRIClS
Sign requirement� in Public snd Planned Qnit Development districta will be
controlled Dy tbe City Council when aay development ia planned.
214.1#. SA6PPDIG CENTEAS ►�D NQLTIPLE DSE BDII.DI1fiS
1. Yithin i8Q days of tAe adoption of thia Chapter, all ownere of shopping
osntera and multiple uae Duildings of three (3) or aore buaioessea or
ipduatries, if they have not already done ao, �u�t auDmit a oomprehen�Sve
sign plaa Co the City Counc�l for approval.
2. All lLture aigns erected vithin tde ahopping ceater or multiple use
�uilding ahall conform to Lhe conditiona of the sign plan and may be
aub3ect Lo conditions other than thoae in the district regulations in order
to promote uniform aign appearance.
210.15. SIGN PBRMIT REQOIRE!ffiATS
1. Siga Per�it.
A. Before e aign may be displayed in the City, the aign erector ahall
file an application vith the City for permisslon to diaplay �uch sign.
g, A permit is required for all existing, nex, relocated, modified or
redesigned aigns, except thoae apecifically exemDt under Seciion
2t4.15.1E.
C. The Sssuance of a permit may also be �ub�ect to additional
conditions in order to promote a more reasonaDle comDination of signs
and to promote conformity vith the character and u�es of adjoining
property. The conditiona Kill be aub�ect to Che diacretion of the
City. Objections to the conditions can be appealed to Lhe City Council
Dy the applicant.
D. Signs erected Dy a nonprofit organization are not exempt from
oDtaining a aign permit but Lhe City may waive the fee requirement.
E. No permit is required to display Che following aigns. This ahall
not De construed as relieving the erector of a e1gn, or the owner of
the property on vhich a aign is located, from conforming with the other
provision� oi this Chapter:
(1) Any xSndow aigns.
(2? dnY addres� aigns.
(3) lny aigns erected by a governmental unit.
(4) Any bench slgnn.
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5�
P �nd P�D
Diatricta
Shopping
Ceatera aad
Nultiple
IIae Buildinga
Sign Perelt
Aequirement�
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(5) lny aemorial aigns or tableta containiag the names of the
Duildiag, its uae and date of erection, xhen cut or Dnilt into the
wffi1 of a Duildi4g.
(6} Any nigns which are a+mpletsly xitAin a bulldiag and are aot
viaible from the exterior of the building.
(7) Aqy temporary aigns as liated under Section 214.06.
(8) Aqy aigns having an area of three (3? aquare feet or leaa.
(g) Any advertising eigns on litter receptacles having an area af
four (4} aquare feet or less per alde and limited Lo ai:teen (16)
aquare feet per receptacle, except that approval of the design and
location of the receptacle Sa requlred by the C1Cy Councll.
Per�it Applicatioa.
A. Application for a aign permit ahall be made to the City on forms
aupplied by the City.
B. If a aign has not been erected withln ainaty (90) days efter the
date of i�suance of a permit, the permit ahall become null and void
unless an extension is granted Dy the City.
C. The City may require ather information as neceasary to insure that
the sign is erected in compliance with this Chapter.
Per�it Fees.
Sign permit fees shall De as Drcvlded in Cha�ter 71 of the Fridley City
Code. '
214.16. SICN EAECTORS' LICEHSE REQUTAElQIlTS
No person, fi� or corporation shall engage in the business of erecting
aigns under this Chapter unless a license to do �o has Deen approved by the
City Council. The annual licenee fee and exgiration date shall De as
provided in Chapter 11 ot the Fridley City Code. A license ahall not Oe
required of any person who chooaea to construct and erect Cheir own aig� on
their ovn property.
214.17. EXISTIIiG SIGNS
1, Slgn Naintenanee.
�. The atructure and �urfaces of all aigns ahall be malatained in a
safe and presentaDle cond2tion at all times, including the replacement
of defective parts, paint4ng, repainting, cleaning and other acts
required to prevent the aign atruCture and �urface Prom becoming
hazardous or unkemDt in appearaace.
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Sign
Erector'a
License
Requirements
Existing
Signs
ua.1e
g, Xhen any aign is removed, the City ahall De notiTied and tne entire 52
aign and its atructure nhall be removed.
2. Legal Noncoafor�iog 31gns.
i. Any aign located vithia ihe City on the date of the �dopt1on of
tLia Chapter xhich doea oot conform �ith the provlsioas of this
Chapter, la a"legal nonconforming" sign and ia permitted, pro+ided it
aleo �eeta Che follorring repuir�eata:
{�} The slgn ras covered Dy a aign permit on the d�te of the
�doption of thia Chapter, if one vas requlred under applicable law,
or
(p) If no aign permit xas required for the aign in question, the
aign was in all respecta in oompllance xith �pplicable law on the
date of Che adoption of this Cdapter.
H. � aign eha11 i�diately loae its "legal nonconforming" designation
if:
(t) The aign ia altered in any vay which makea t2�e aign less in
compltance vith the requirementa of this Chapter Lhan it was before
the alteration�, except for routine maintenance and change of
messages.
(2} The aign ia relocated.
(jj The sign is replaced.
(�) The sign Decomes dilapidated or damaged and the cost of
bringing it Snto compliance ia more tAan 50 percent (501) of the
value of said nign, at which time all of the aign and its atructure
must De rmoved.
3. Abaadoned Signs.
Any aign xhich identitie� a uae that 6�s dlscontinned operation for a
period of more than three (3) months or any aign which pertains to a time,
event or purpose which no longer apDliea, ahall be deemed to have been
aDandoned. Permanent signs applicable to a buainess temporarily suspended,
Decause of a change of ownership or oanagement, nhall not be deemed
abandoned unless Lhe property ramain� vacant for a period of more than
three (3i �ntb�. An abandoned nign is prohiDited and ahall De removed by
the wner oT tbe sign or the property wner.
21K.18. EMFOACEM�IT
7h• City Aanager or designated agent shall be reaponnible for the
enforcement of this Chapter.
Enforcenent
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214.1g. YIOI.AlIOlS
1. �oy aign that does not complp vith the provisiona of
that ia a bazard to the Lealth, aafety and general velfare
ia hereby declared to De in violation of thla Chapter.
2. lotification of Yiolatlon.
thia Chapter or
of the puDlic,
1. It the City determines Lhat any aign regulated by thia CDapter is
uaaafe, a eeaace to the public, or has been constructed or erected
vithout a permit firat being granted to the owner of the property upon
vhich aaid aign Aea Deen erected, or is in violation of any other
Drovision of thla Chapter. then the C1ty ehall iasue a xritten notice
of violetion to Lhe property wner. If the ovner fails to remove the
aign or briag it into eempllance xith the provision� of this Chapter
vithin twenty (20) caiendar days followiag the date of aaid notice,
auch aign(s) say be rmoved by LLe City. The coat of t�is removal,
including any City eYpen�es, ahall be a apeclal assessment again�t the
property upon vhich the aign(s) vas located �nd ahall be ao noted in
the written aotice to the property owner.
B. The City may cause any aign or aign atructure whicn ia an immediate
public hazard, to De removed a�mmarily after s reasonable attempt das
Deen made to dave tAe property rn+ner remove the �ign.
C. When the City mail� the noiice of violation, �pies will be sent to
both the per�it holder and Che property owner, if LAey are different
persons.
210.20. PBMALTY
Any violation of this Chapter i� a misdemeanor and is aub�ect to all
penalties provided for such violations under the provisions of Chapter 901
of the Fridley City Code. Each Qay the violation contlnues in existence
ahall be deemed a aeparate violatlon. All aigns are suG�ect to any penalty
for v;o;ation of Lhe district requirement� vhere they are located, even
when not required to pay a fee or sequire a permit.
210.21. ►YPB1lLS
To provide for a reasonable iaterpretation of the proviaions of this
Chapter, a permit applicant xho xishes to appeal sn interpretation Dy the
City iay file a variance applicatioa and request a hearing before the
Appeala Commission. Tbe Commission ahall hear requests for variances and
Mke their recommendation to Lhe Citq Council in the following cases:
�, �ppeals vhere it ia alleged that there ia an error in sny order,
requiraoent, decision or determination made Dy Lhe City ia the enforcement
of this Chapter.
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Vtolatiom
Penalt�
Appeals
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2. Requesta for variancea from the literal prnvisiona of this CAapter in �
instances vAere tLe atrict enforcemeet vould cause an undue hardnLip.
Hefore the Commiaaiop a6a11 grant a variance, it la the responsibility of
the applicant Co prove:
�. Tbat tEere are ezcepiional or eztraordinsry circuia�ancee
applicaDle to tde pcopertq or to the iettnded uae t�at �o aot applY
senerally to other property in the aama vicinity and diatriot.
!. That t6e variance ia nece�aary for the preservation and •n1oyment
of • aubatantial property right poasessed Dy other property in the aame
♦lcinity and diatrict; Eut xhich Se denied Lo the property in question.
C. TEat the atrict appllcation of the Chapter vould constitute •n
unnecessary hardsAip.
D. That tLe granting of the varience would not �e materially
detrimental to the puDlic health, safety or general welfare or
detrimental to the yroperty in the vicinity or diatrict in xhich Lhe
property Se located.
214-17
CITY OF FRIDLEY
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION
MEETING
MAY 2, 7985
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Minton called the May 2, 1985, Human Resources Comnission meeting to
order at 7;36 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Members Present: Bob Minton, Harold Belgum, Sue Sherek, Steve Billings
Menbers Absent: Barbara Kncher
Others Present: Bill Hunt, Adm#nistrative Assistant
Sid Inman, Director of Central Services, City of Fridley
INTRODUCTION OF NEW MEMBER: Steve Billings, 5215 Lincoln St. N.E.
Mr. Minton introduced Mr. Billings to the Comnission members and welcomed him to
the Corronission.
APPROVAL OF APRIC 4, 1985; FIUNIAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINllTES:
MOTZON BY F4t. BELGUM, SECONDED BY MS, 5XEREK, TO APPROVE TXE APRIL 4, 1985�
HUIiAfi XESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOSING AYE� CHAIRPE3SON MINTON DECZ,ARED THE MOTION CARRZED
UNANIMOUSLY.
APPROVAL OF A6ENDA:
The Comnission members added the following items to tfie agenda:
Consideration of the Mentatly Iit Issue
Ethnic Issues
July 6leeting Date
l�lOTIQN BY MR. BELGUM, SECONDED BY MS. SHEREK, TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS AMENDED.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE� CHAZRPERSON MINTON DECLARED TXE MOTION CARRZHI
UNANZlIOUSLY,
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HUFIAN RESOURCES COMMI55IOt� MEETI��G; MAY 2, 1985 PAGE 2
_____ ____ __.
i, ELECTION OF OFfICERS - MAY 1985 T0 MAV 1986:
Chairperson Minton declared the nominations open for chairperson.
Mr. Beigum nominated Mr. Minton to continue as Cfiairperson of the Numan
Resources Commission.
MOTION BY MR, BILLINGS� 5fiCONDED BY MS. SHEREK, TO CIASE THE NOMINATIONS
FOR CNAIRPERSON,
UPON A VDICE VOTE��ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON MINTON DECLARED TNE
NOMINATIONS CLOSED, �
Chairperson Minton declared the nominations open for vice-chazrperson,
Mr. Belgum nominated Sue Sherek for vice-cF�airperson of the Human Resources
Commission.
MOTION BY MR. BILLINGS� SECONDED BY MR. BELGUY.� TO CLOSE THE NOMINATZONS FOR
VICE-CNAIRPEkSON.
IIPON R VOICE VOTE, ALL YOTSNG AYE, CHAZRPERSON MINTON DECLARED THE NOMINATIONS
CIASED.
MOT2073 BY MR. BZZLINGS, SECONDED 8Y MR. BELGUM� TO CAST A UNANZMOUS BALLOT FOR
MR. MINTON FOR CXAZRPERSON AND MS. SHERER FOR VICE-CHAIRPERSON OF THE XUMAN
RESOURCES COMMISSION FOR THE YEAR MAY 1985 TO MAY 1986,
DPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CXASRPERSON MINTON DECLARF.b THE M02ZON
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2. OL� BUSINESS:
a. Consideration of the use of data involving people in the City of Fridley
Mr, Minton stated it was the main concern of the Numan Resources Commission
that there would be some protection of the privacy of the people of Fridley
so the Commission wou7d like to know what kind of information or data is
being gathered, especially in terms of people as opposed to property. what
kind of information can be gathered from that data, and what pro�ection the
City is taking for the citizens of Fridley,
Mr, Inman stated this was a topic the City is currently reviewing and has
been for a litt7e while with little success. He stated he was very excited
about the Commission's interest in becoming involved, because the task in
his department, because of the way it is organized, is to be non-bureaucratic
efficient, cost effective, and provide information to both citizens,
politicians, and staff. That was in direct conflict with the issues the
Commission is concerned about.
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Mr. Inman stated many times those oeople involved with computers do not
even look at the issues, which tfiey shoutd, and that was one reason why
his department was very happy that the Commission wanted to become involved,
He stated if the Comnission was volunteering to scrutinize what they put
an the computer, they wouid welcome that input. However, he would warn the
Commission that it was a Tong-term project. The City of fridley is probably
the leader in data processing and witfiin the next 5-10 years every community
is going to have at least one or twa CRT's on everyone's desk.
Mr. Inman stated the demand they have for information is overwhelming.
Tfie demand for information that citizens can get from the City was also
overwfielming, The problem�was the reference to "big brother", Ne stated
they are not "big brother"; tfiey only put on the computer what people want
to get back. Either politicians, citizens, or other agencies ask to store
and retrieve information, and that is how the information gets on the computer.
Mr, Inman stated that in the next six months. they are going to quickly move
into an area which he thought the Comniss4on would be interested in. Right
now, the Commissio� would probably find the information rather boring and
mundane, other than poiice information which is a whole other area.
Mr. Inman stated the typical data processing shop has a centrat computer
with a lot of programmers and analysts and a lot of control; and they are
very tightly scrutinized. In his opinion, that was very inefficient and
very costly. In the City's case, they have what is cailed decentralized
distributed data processing. The users themselves control their own destiny;
his department merely he]ps them with design, backs uR the system in the
evening, and issues reports. For example, the Fire Dept, brought their
system up about tfiree years ago, and Central Services has not done anything
for them yet. 7he advantage of tfiis is it costs about 1/4 of what it would
cost in the other environment. Tfie disadvantage is there is no central
control over what is produced.
Mr, Inman stated the real issue becomes in keeping daia elements off the
system in the first place, rather than trying to control that information
once it is on the system. They, in their industry, have a tendency to put
everything on the system just in case someone might ask for it. That is
where the Co�nissian could be very helpful. He woutd also show the
Comnission an example of the tists they come up with.
Mr. Inman stated that regarding computer security, no matter how secure they
try and make the computer system, there is always another person who can
break it down, There is a real fear of the "hackers". He stated this is
an area he cannot control no matter how 6ard �e tries, so their apnroach is
going to be or try to be to keep as much sensitive data elements as possible
aff the system and really scrutinize why people need the information they
request.
Mr. Belgum asked Mr, Inman who te11s his department what to put on the
computer.
HU�tAN RES�URCES COh�tISSION MEETING;"MAY 2, 19B5 PAGE 4
Mr, Inman stated tfiey put on or design what a city department says it needs.
They do not look at it in terms of the negative e]ement; they look at it
in terms of information, He stated the Public Informat4on Law was quite
clear on what tfie City has to provide to tfie public; however, it does not
te71 them how they have to provide t6at information.
Mr. Inman stated they �ave had some requests from the Planning Department
to put on census tract data which is readi7y available at Anoka County,
That data contains a lot of information about the citize^s of fridley,
He stated they have not gotten this information at tfiis tdme.
Mr. Inman showed tfie Commissioners a sample of a design document they now
have running calied Municipal Unified Data Base (MUD).
Mr. Inman stated the City gets catls almost daily from vacuum cleaner sales-
people, softwater conditioner salespeople, etc., wanting lists of oeoole's
names. He stated the City is very protective and refuses to release that
information even though it is public informatfion, The City Council and his
de�artment has set up a city policy that tfiey do not want the citizens of
Frldley inundated and are willing to risk the possibility of a court case.
These salespeople are told they can cnme to Citv Hall and wr4te down that
information,
Mr, Hunt stated the Data Practices Act says that any information the City
has is public information unless there is specific ]egislatton to the
contrary.
Mr. Belgum asked Mr. Inman what he would like to see the Commission doing
for the City.
Mr. Inman stated he would like to see the Corrrnission possibly review lists
of the eiements (not the data itself) that are currently stored,
Mr. Minton asked Mr. Inman if he could give the Cortmission a tist of a11
the different kinds of data that is on the computer.
Mr. Inman stated he would get that list together for the Commission, He
stated he would really like to see the Commission p]ay the "Devrl's Advocate".
If the Corrmission questions why some data is being stored, they shouid tell
the City. The City is really in need of someone to ':watchdog" them. They
do not do it themselves because it fs not their objective.
Mr. Minton stated that after the Commission revfews the data, they can
discuss it and maybe come up with some policy recommendations for the City.
Mr. Billings stated one thing mentioned 6y Mr. Inman was that maybe the
Conmission coutd review all the new things that go on to the computer.
He stated that could be a tremendous task, and he could see the Commissioners'�
spending a great deal of time on this subject, He stated maybe there should I
be a separate body or a panel of city employees (an organized mechanism)
who are responsible for that review.
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Mr. Minton stated that was an issue tfiey could discuss and there might be
some type of policy recommendation tfiey could come up wiifi regardinq this.
Ms, Sherek siated sf�e did not tfiink tf�e Commission wanted to get into
the business of reviewing every program the City wants to put on the system.
She thought they could come up witf� some tYpe of policy statement that
there 6as to be sane justification for anyone to have additional informa-
ttb n put on the system, If it is a minor addition, sfie did not think the
Comnission would want to hold the City up for an application that would take
2Q-30 hours to develop. Sfie agreed with Mr. Minton. The Commission should
be looking at policies, and those policies had to be developed by someone
independent of the operation.
Mr. Minton thanked Mr. Inman for coming to the meeting.
b, Consideration of public information ahout No-Fault Grievance Corrmittee
Mr. Minton stated he has been informed of an employee discrimination case.
He stated that since the Commission fias been made aware of this case, he
would try to ca11 a meeting of tfiree of the ffive people trained to handle
and dispose of the case.
Mr. Hunt stated that what they would hope to accomplish through the No-
Fault Grievance Committee was to get the employee and employer together
to try to come to some resolution wit(�out the grievant having to file the
case with the 5tate Department of Human Rights. The grievant has four
months in which to fiie his/her case before the State Department of Human
Rights so the whole purpose of the No-Fault Grievante Comnittee is to act
as quickty as possible. If the case cannot be resolved, the grievant can
still file wit6 tfie State Department of Human Rights.
MOTZON BY MR, BILLINGS, SECONDED BY MR, BELGUM� TX&T CHAIRPERSON MINTON
TAKE TNE NECESSARY STEPS TO CONVENE THE ND-FAULT GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE IN
ORDER TO TRY TD RESOLVE THE DISCRIMINATSON CASE TXAT XRS BEEN BRDUGHS TO
THE COMMZSSION`S ATTENTZON,
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CKAZRPERSON MSNTON DECLARED THF MOTZON
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY, �
Mr. Hunt stated he had talked to someone from t6e State Dept, of Human
Rights, and theperson he talked to seemed concerned tha� Mr. Treuenfels,
who is a member of the No-Fault Grievance Committee, was no longer a member
of the Human Resources Commission. Mr. Hunt stated he got the imoression
that the State would like to have someone from the Comnission to be the
convener or at least a contact person with the No-fault Grievance Cortrnittee.
Mr. Minton stated he could be the convener of the meeting; hnwever he was
not trained in the grievance process. He stated he would contact the
5tate and check into this.
HUMAN RESOURCfS COMMISSION MEETING; MAq 2; 1985" PAGE 6
Mr. Billings suggested Mr, Mfnton contact all five of the No-Fau1t Grievance
Comnittee members to make sure that all five were stili willing to serve
on the Committee and to make sure tfiey all still lived in the City of
Fridley. He stated the Comnission might want to think about training some
more people for this comnittee.
c. Consideration of t�e Mentatly I11 Issue
Mr. Minton stated that at t4e April 3, 1985, planning Commission meetinq,
the Commission listened to a proposal for a special use permit to allow
a mental heaith fdcility in the City of Fridiey. He stated that as he
had tried to categorize the resnonses from the neighbors opposed to the
facility, he felt the responses feli into three categories:
7, Having mentally ill peoole in the neighborhood woutd pose
some danger to the children and would depreciate property
values.
2. T�e proposed facitity was inadequaie and tfiey felt this
facility sbould be in commercial zoning,
3. It was going to be detrimental to business interests in the
area such as rental values and day care providers.
Mr, Minton stated everyone spoke in terms of tfie prograin being very worth-
rthile and they were not aga�nst t�e mentally ill, theg just did not want
tfiem in the neighborhood. Mr. Minion stated that, in his own mind, he did
not think these reasons fiad anq merit in themselves, except for the
emotional fear they generated, He stated the Planning Commission voted
unanimously to recommend to the City Council that the request for a special
use permit be approved.
Mr. Minton stated that if the Comnission was in support of this facilitv,
it might be appropriate for the Commission to make a statement to the City
Council indicating the Commission's support,
Ms. Sherek stated she lived in 5outh Minneapolis for eigfit years within
three blacks of three mental health facilities--two board and care faci7it9es
and one treatment facility. She had to honestly say she did not know those
facilities were even there untit four years �ater. She stated all the fears
are real, but if the City allows this to be defeated based on peopie's
fears, they are just perpetuating it. The otherpart of that should be the
fear that if the appropriate facility is not established, the people who
should be in a controlled living environment will not be and may not be
properiy supervised, She thought it was very appropriate for the Commission
to make some kind of statement to the City Council,
HUMAN RESOURCES COMh1ISSI0N MEETING, MAY 2 1985 PAGE 7
Mr. Billings stated he only wt'Sfied he had li3tened to the testimony before
the City Council with a different view. As he listened to it, he was
listening with the point of view that f�e was glad he did not have to make
the decision. He now questioned whether he was really knowledgeable
enough to make an honest decision as to whether, in fact, he supported
it or did not support it. He also questioned the appropriateness of whether
or not the Comnission should be making a recorranendation to the City Council
from the standpoint that it was the purpose of tf�e Plannir.g Comnission
to make recommendations to t6e City Council and the ultimate decision is
the City Council's. He was not certain the Comnission had a11 the informa-
tion that will be availa6le to the City Council, and he questioned the
appropriateness of the•Commission's support for this particular facility
at this particular location,
Mr. Minton stated he felt it was a very appropr{ate subject for this
Corrrnission to be addressing. This item was scheduled to be heard by the
Human Resources Comnission, but because of timing, had gone on to the
Planning Commission.
UPON A VDICE VOTE, ALL VOTING
d. Ethnic Issues
Mr, Belgum stated he would invite Mr, Reuther to the July meeting.
Discussion continued until the July meeting.
NEW BUSINESS:
a. Consideration of proposals from human service organizations for
1985 CDBG funds
Mr. Nunt stated they have received requests from ten organizations for
1985 CDBG funds in the amount of �76,651. On1y $19,176 was available
for distribution.
Mr. Minton stated that at this meeting the Commission should talk a 1ittle
about each organization and its reGuest and put together a list of
questions for each organization. These questions should be forwarded to
the organizations prior to their coming before the Comnissron at a special
meeting.
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Anoka County Community Action Prdgram; Inc, - amount requested -$4,388
Mr. Hunt stated tfiis money was for a Senior OutreaC� Wor&er, It was
the remainder of what the City granted them lasi year. Because 1984
funds had to be expended by Dec. 31, 1985, Anoka County CAP cut their
funding back to the four montf�s from Sept, i to Dec. 31, 1985.
The Comnissioners had no pro6lems with this request.
Alexandra House - amaunt requested $3,000
Mr, Hunt stated tf�is money was for a comnunity education program.
Questions:
i, How many people in Frid]ey wi11 this community education program
have an impact on?
2, Have they made any effort io coordinate with the four school
systems in Fridley?
3. Expand on the physical implernentation of the community
education program.
4. More informatiDn on future plans for iniervention program.
Suburban Consumer Advocates for the Handicapped .
Mr. Hunt stated this was a very new organization. The request was for
$55D for equipment, $Z00 for staff and office supplies, and $450 for two
4 hr. Section 504 workshops.
Questions�
1, How many people in Fridley are going to be affected by the
Section 504 workshops, $450 of which would be funded with
Fridley funds?
2. Mr. Minton stated that a few years ago, the Human Resources
Commission devetoped a booklet on fridley public buildinqs and
their accessibi7ity to the handicapped. Does th5s organization
have any pians for working with the Commission in the future?
How will they cooperate wit6 t6e Comnission`s concerns for the
Fiandicapped? Do they fiave any plans for coordinating their
interests with the Comnission?
3. What is their present 1eve1 of activity? If the#r staff is
strictly volunteer, to what extent are they active? There was
some indication they had applied to Anoka County for funding
for personnel, Had that funding for staffing come through from
Anoka County? If not, how are t6ey going to operate?
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Rainbow School and GFii1d Care Center -a mount requested -$34,863
Mr. Hunt stated Rainbow School and Cfiild Care Center is requesting funding
for a11 child care for all 14 cFiildren from low income families. He had
assumed tfiey would request some type af help to just supplement the funds
lost,
Ms. Sherek stated sFie thnught wlwt Rainbow Scfiool was requestin9 did not
seem reasonable. She thought one problem might have been that the school
had misunderstood what the Gortmission wanted. On the other hand, she
felt looking for CDBG funds instead of trying to induce Anoka County to
participate in the state sliding fee funds was an unreasonable thinq to do.
The CDBG funds should be a"stop gap" measure and not an ongoing source of
funding.
Ms. Sherek stated it was not the City`s 6usfnesS to get into a sttuation
like this where there are other funds available such as the sliding fee
scale. If Anoka County chooses not to participate, it is up to the day
care centers to pressure Anoka County to participate. Then, if there is
still a gap for people who don't quite qualify for whatever reason, it
might be appropriate to apply for a sma11 amount of funds.
Mr. Minton and Mr. Beigum agreed.
uestfons:
What efforts have been made by Rainbow School to try to induce
Anoka County to participate in the state sliding fee scale funds?
Has there been any effort to join with other day care fproviders
in this effort as Anoka County has a very active day care association.
Fridley Senior Citizen Center - amount requested -$6,700
Mr, Hunt stated that �4,000 of the amount requested was for a staff person
beginning in June 1986.
Mr. Minton stated he had a problem wit(� CDBG funds going for staff which
was a whole year away, If there are funds next year. they coutd anply at
that time.
Ms. Sherek stated she was concerned because tt±ere appeared to be a con-
siderabie overlap with the 3enior Outreach Program with Anoka County CAP,
Questions:
1, Is there an overlapping of services?
2. 7he information talked about the number of Fridley residents to
be served. In tigfit of the fact that tf�is seer�s to be a high
amount of funding, is it a high number in relation to the number
of low income Fridley residents that wfll be served.
HUNAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING, PoAY 2, 1985 PAGE 10
3. No indiCdtion of otfier funding befng solicited on an ongoing basis.
4. More specific information on ho� they intend to spend the money
if they were funded, Mitat is the staff person going to do?
5, How does this funding relate to the senior outreach worker?
Foundation of Islands of P2�ce
Mr. Hunt stated tfie application was totaliy fnadequate. He has sent th�n
a letter witfi the guidelines and fioped to get more information from them,
He stated he woutd mail that fnformatiDn out to the Corrnnissioners.
Questions•
1. Is the foundation getting any progra�ning funds from any other
governmentat sources?
2. Have t�ev applied elsewfiere for fundinq? It appeared that not
all their clientele were coming from fri.dley, but yet it looked
like tfie on7y application for fundfng was from Fridley.
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Southern Anoka Ceunty Assistance - amount requested -$5,000
Mr. Hunt stated the amount requested was for a oart-time staff person.
Mr. Minton stated his big concern was getting into the sa7ary situation
again. If someone is hired, that position almost has to 6e continued.
aestion:
I# the money was not used for a salary, could it be used for some
other purpose?
Central Center for Famil� ResburCes - amount requested -$5,000
Questibns•
t. To what extent will Central Center provide services �or sliding
fee people beyond the funding from government sources? Are people
dropped at the end of the current course of counseling or are
people allowed to receive counseling even though the funding has
ceased?
2. Centrai Cen±er for Family Resources indicated they are going to
spend the money for 500 sessions to be used for staff time.
"This cou]d be done by direct application to �rid7ey residents
or applied over the entire �opulation," What does tfiis mean and
which was Central Center going to do? T�is shou7d be clarified.
HU�iAN RESWRCES COMMISSION MEETING, �AY 2L 79$5 PAGE 11
3, The 500 sessions for $5,000 was $10/hour. Will the 5Q0 sessions
be group sessions and can it be done for $lOJhour per person?
4, Where does Central Center for Family Resources stand in.the United
Way priority system and will tfiat mean any more money for them:
Ms. Sherek stated there are a lot of resources for adult counseling,
mentalty ill counseling, etc., but as far as family counseling, she felt
Central Center for Family Resources 6as one of the most comprehensive
counseling services she fias seen in the surrounding area.
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Family I.ife Mental HeaTth Center - amount requested -$3,�00
Mr. Minton stated tf�ey are requesting $3,000, but they do not say what
they are going to do witfi ihe money. -
Ms. Sherek stated that in looking at t5e staff descriptions included in
the packet, it did not appear that staff mPanbers were employeed for any
length of time before leaving, There was only one employee with sub-
stantial F�ours of exnerience wfio fias been with the organization for quite
awhile. Sfie was concerned about how the organization could provide an
ongoing program without an ongoing staff.
Ms. Sherek stated Family Life did not provide any patient numbers to
indicate either their total patient load wfth regard to the budget or
the number of Fridley residents to be served.
uestians:
1, Do they have some staff contact with some patients on an ongoing
basis? What is their record of turnover as far as staff, and is
it affecting client care?
2. Expand on what they are actually going to do with the $3,000 and
how will that money affect people in Fridley?
3, Explain why they did not use the appiicatian format requested and
sent out by the City.
North Suburban Familv Service Center - amount requested -$4,000
Questions•
1. What happens to clients after the two counseling seesions? It
appears from the apptication that clients are provided with two
counseling sessions each.
2. What progress has been made toward incorporation?
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3. Are clients dropped from service when block grant funds and
county monies are gone? Is there any ongoing treatment of services?
What happens to the clients?
4, The maximum price charged is $55/hr. Does this $55/hr, cover all
costs, dtrect and il�direct, for an fwur of counseling?
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Scheduling dnd Structuring df�eCta1 Meetinq:
7he Commissioners agreed to schedule a special meetting on Wednesday,
May 15, at 7:Q0 p.m., at which time tf�e organizations requesting funding
will appear before t6e Commission to answer questions and give anv further
information needed by the Commission. 7he Cor�nissioners agreed to schedule
each organization at 15 minute intervals.
b. Reception of revised work plan for i985
Mr. Hunt stated this was the revised work plan after one item had been
deieted at the tast meeting. TE�e work plan went before the City Council
at their last meeting, and it was approved by tfie City Council,
c. Consideration of appointment to Communtty Education Advisory Board
to replace Peter Treuenfels
Mr. Belgum stated that since Ms, Kocher was employed in the field of
education as a scfiool teacher, she might 6e interested in beinq aopointed
to this Board.
Mr. Minton stated fie would contact Ms, Kocfier and f�nd out if she was
wil]ing to serve on the Board.
d. July Meeting date
Since the July meeting date fell on �uly 4, the Commiss�oners agreed to
reschedute the meeting for July 11 at 7:30 p.m.
AD�OURtJMENT:
MOTZON BY MS. SHEREK, SECONDED BY MR, BILLINGS� TO AA70URN THE MEET7NG. UPON A
VDICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON MINTON DECLARED THE MAY Z� Z985� HUMAN
RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING AAIOURNED AT 10:32 P.M.
Respectfuily submi ted,
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Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
MEETING
MAy 6, 1985
CALL TQ ORDER:
Chairoerson Kondrick called the Mav 6, 1985, Parks & Recreation Comnission meetinq
to order at 7:35 p.m.
ROLI CALL•
Members Present: Dave Kondrick, Mary Schreiner. Dick Young, Dan Alten
Me�nbers Absent: Steve Nelson
Otfiers Present: Charles Boudreau, Parks & Recreation Director
Jack Kirk, Recreation Supervisor
John Flora, Public Works Director
Tony Wajda, 2323 - 2nd St. N.E., Mp1s. 55418
Steve Torgrimson, Frid}ey Jaycees
APPROVAL Of APRIL 1, 1985, PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSIOW MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS, SCHREINER, SECONDED BY MR, ALLEN, TD APPROVE THE APRZL 1� S9&5,
PARKS 6 RECRF.ATION COMMZSSZON MZNUTES AS WRITTEN, �
UpON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CNAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANSMOUSLY,
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
The foltowing item was added to the agenda under "New Business":
Softball Tournament Requests - Fridley Jaycees
Mr. Torgrimson stated the JaYcees were looking at two additiortal community project
events or goals for this year, They were: (1) adding a children`s olaygrc4nd
area at the comnunity park; and (2j looking at the need for a wading pool in
Fridley proper. He stated they have not done any detailed work on either of these
projects, but they wanted the Comnission to be aware of this and that they will
6e contacting Dr. Boudreau and Mr. Flora wit6 more details.
1. ELECTION OF OFFICERS - MAT i9�g T0 PIA1' 1986:
Chairperson Kondrick declared the nominations onen for chairperson and vice-
chairperson.
MOTION BY MR. YOt1NG, SECONDED BY MR, ALLEN, TO NOMINRTE DRf/E' KONDRICK TO CONTINUE
AS CXAIRPERSON OF THE PARXS 6 RECREATION COMMSSSION,
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PARKS & RECREATION EONP+IISSION MEETING MAW 6 1985 PAGE 2
Mr. Alien stated Mr, Kondrick has done a very job �'r representing the
Caonission and he fe7t Mr. Kondrick more than deserved another term,
1�lOTION BY MR, ALLEN� SECONDED BY M.R. YOUNG� TO NOMZNATE MARY SCHREINER TO
CONTINUE AS VSCE-CHASHPERSON OF TNE PARXS 6 RECREA2ION COMMISSION,
MOTION BY MR, ALLEN� SECONDED BY MR, YOUNG� TO CZASE TXE NOMINATIONS FOR
CAAIRPERSON AND VICE-CHAIRPERSON.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, RLL VOTING AYE, CNAIRPERSON HONDRICK DECLARE➢ TNE
NOIIZNATIONS CLOSED,
MOTION BY MR, ALLfiN� SfiCONDED BY MR, YOfING, TO CAST A UNANIMOUS BRLLOT FOR
DRVE KONDRICR AS CXAIRPERSON AND MARY SCHREINER AS VICE-CHAIRPERSON OF THE
PARKS & RECREASZON COMMISSION FOR THE YEAR MAY I9B5 TO NAY 1986.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE 140TION
C.9RRIED UNAIJZMOUSLY.
2. PIEIJ BUSINESS:
a. Park Division Report - Mr, John Flora
Mr. Flora stated there was some question by the Parks & Recreation Commission
about what was being done in the community park area. He stated that to
help answer that question, he had provided the Commission with a memo
(PW 85-111) dated April 25, 1985, re Park Improvements.
Mr. Flora stated what the Public Works Dept, is trying to do at this time
is maintain a"status quo". He stated tf�ey would like to work with
Dr. Boudreau and the Parks & Recreation Comnission to put together a plan
of v�hat tkey woul d 1 i ke to see in tf�e parks, and wFiat tf�e vari ous pri ori ti es
are within tf�e parks, They can tfren put these tfiings into the budget to try
to get thP new things and have a goal of what they should be getting, He
felt tfiat once this was established, they would have a program and some very
specific things to work on for each year, and it wiil help make sure that
whatever they are doing wi11 be working towards that end.
Mr. Flora stated that right now the,y have just been trying to focus on
the maintenance. They did retain a college student during the winter in
order for him to conduct an inventory of all tfie equipment in the qarks,
the condition of the equipment, and the location of the equipment, They
wi71 use that inf�rmation ta determine what their inventory is, look at
Yhe age and conditian of the equipment, and whetfier it sfiould be retained,
upgraded, or removed. It wi11 serve as a basic maintenance document. He
stated copies of this documeni were given to Dr. Boudreau. He stated he
hoped that through the process of park planning, they will be able to high-
light what they are looking for in each park.
Mr. Ftora stated that internally, they have had a Iot of problems at the
comnunity park, because over the years they have gone through a number of I
revisions, He thought part of the problem was the going from Parks &
8ecreati�n to Recreation Maintenance, A tot of things that were internally
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 6, 1985 PAGE 3
being digested as far as the goal or the plan was not visually or verbally
eresented to be adopted, So, what they are trying to do is get a plan
for every park of what is desired and then set the priorities to get there.
Mr. F1ora stated the concept of the community park was to do a lot of earth-
work to create a bermed area to keep the noise, lights, and concentration
of activity separated from the neighbors to the south and west. The
essential construction did the physical plan as far as the earth work. They
followed a year later with the concession building. They are now putting
the final touches on the concession building. They put in a new water line
this spring and are now putting an additional cancrete apron around it to
help with the drainage, They are planning for an addltional parking lot
for about 100 cars. This is included in the draft 1986 budget, but he
did �ot know wfien it would happen.
Mr, flora stated they have 6een working with the Jaycees and were in agree-
ment that there s'iould be some place for children to play while the adults
are playing ball. They made a quick outline of the area between field #4
and the future parking lot expansion wfiich would provide tot lot, middle
age group, and older age group activities. They have thought of putting in
some picnic tables--a place for people who are playing ball to spend some
time,
Mr. Flora stated they have put togetfier some rough num6ers of the costs of
the playground area and have provided those to the Jaycees.
Mr, Flora stated this will be the first real year that the community park
will be used to the maximum so they wi17 be abie to get a good handle on
what will be needed after this year.
Mr. Y�ung asked that in the areas between the fields on the hiltside, was
there any plan to put in trees? He felt trees would really beautify the
park and would provide some shade within a few years.
Mr. Flora stated there was no plan at this time, but this was one of the
reasons why he was asking for input from the Comnission.
Mr. Allen asked what the plans were as far as bleachers. There has to be
something to accomrodate the people, Last year when it raired, the area
was a quagmire. What is the plan?
Mr. Flora stated that the plan right now is to get the fields level, and
with fertilization and the sprinkler system, to get the grass to grow. That
is the first priority. They have extended the apron around the concession
building an�ther 10 ft, to accommodate more people and also, hopefully, to
improve the drainage in that area. They will maintain 5 row bleachers
behind each of the backstops for this year.
Mr, flora stated, again, the ultimate goal is for the Parks & Recreation
Commission to te11 them what the Comnission would like to see in all 33
parks and then set some priorities.
PARKS &T�CREATION CO�MISSION MEETING, MAY 6, 1985 PAGE 4
Dr. Boudreau stated Staff has worked this out internally. He and Mr. Kirk
will have input on the plans. They will then run the plans by the
Comnission for the Comnission's input. Once that has gotten approval, it
will go to Nr, Flora on the maintenance part of it, and then to the City
Council for their approval,
Mr. Kondricf� tf�anked Mr. Flora for coming to tfie meeting.
Mr, Allen stated the reason he brougf�t up the concern about the bleachers
was because of his old concern when the park maintenance went to the Public
Works Dept. To him, deciding w(�ether or not bleacf�ers go into a park was
a programnatic decision, not a decision that sfiould be made by Pu61ic
Works. He had been getting the indication that if Public Works didn't
agree, the bieacherS would not qo in, So, he had been very concerned about
that again. He was concerned ab���t people making recreational decisions
who are really not in the recreation business. He had wanted to make it
really clear that those types of decisions are the job of the recre�tion
staff.
Mr. Kondrick stated that at the next meetinq, tbey should discuss how they
want to go about putting together input about the parks.
b. Tony Wajda - 1984 Softball Tournament
Dr. Boudreau stated Mr, Wajda had requested to appear before the Commission
regarding the cancelled 1984 softball tournament. He stated the Commissioners
had a copy of the July i6, 1984, and Aug, 20, 1984, meeting minutes, alonq
with the tournament application form signed by Mr.tdajda. Because of a check
submitted by Mr. Wajda that came back because of "insufficient funds",
Dr, Boudreau had told Mr. Wajda that he could not run the tournament. At
the July 16, 1984, meeting, the Comnission had made a motion stating that
a 5100 fee as stated in the contract plus $150 for administrative expenses
should be callected from Mr. Wajda for not performinq per the tournament
agreement with the City of Fridley.
Mr. Wa'da stated he felt the $250 was not appropriate. He felt zero dollars
would �e appropriate; however, after reading through the agreement again,
he would be agreeable to paying the $100 for the canCeilation. The reason
beMind that was the teams he was sponsoring for the tournament did not make
any money off the tournament. It was one of those things that was anticipated
wrong. He had hoped to get 48 teams, but only ifi teams responded.
Mr. Wajda stated he had hoped to continue with the tournament and had asked
Dr. Boudreau to rent him just two ball fields instead of the whole park.
That way he could have paid for the two fields at $500 and at least have
broken even on the tournament. Had they had to pay the full fee of $1,000
plus permits, there was no way they could have made any money, He stated
they were not given the opportunity to rent just two fieids, artd that was
why he fe7t $250 was too high. Ne stated the administrative costs could
have been avoided if the City had given the opportunity to use the two
fields. The fields were already prepared for the tournament; two would
have been used, and two would not have been used.
PARKS & RECREATION COh1MIS5I0N MEETIN6 MAY 6 1985 PAGE 5
Mr. Young asked Mr, Wajda if he was aware of the fact that there was
another tournament scheduled by a non-profit group last season who
cancelled and were charged $250. This group paid the E250 with no
questions and and were very glad they were not asked to pay the whole fee.
Mr. Wajda stated he was not aware of that.
Dr. Boudreau stated that with an entry fee of $100 per team and Mr. Wajda
had 16 teams signed up, that was $1600 right there. He would have been
at a break-even point before even selling any concessions. He stated
Mr. Wajda should have run the tournament with the 16 teams.
Mr. Wajda stated the point was still that he should have been given the
opportunity to just use two fields. Then this all could have been avoided.
He still felt the $100 was appropriate, but not the $150 for administrative
fees. He asked what constituted administrative fees.
Dr, Boudreau stated that Accounting has been involved with Mr. Wajda's bad
cGeck, the Police Dept, has been involved with the check, the Parks &
Recreation Dept, staff has been involved over a year with his check. That
was sthy tfie Comnission made it policy that every grouA must have up-front
money when a tournament request is made. Tfiat assures the Comnission and
the City tfiat tfie fields will not sit ddle because someone doesn't get
eno�gh teams to hold a tournament as planned, The City missed out on make-
up games that could have been played, sor someone else might have wanted to
run a tournament. Staff puts in a lot of time and effort to try to rent out
a first-class facility.
Dr. Boudreau stated the Parks & Recreation Commission is made up of people
who volunteer their time once a month and who sPent a lot of time coming up
with these po7icies. He stated he and Mr. Kirk must enforce the �olicies
already set up by the Cortmission, and the decision is up to the Commission,
Dr. Boudreau stated Mr. Wajda was advocating the renting out of two fielAs,
knowing quite well that the other two fields would be used for warm-up
and practice. He stated two fields lying idle are too much of a te�ptation.
Mr. Wajda stated he would ask the Commission to waive the $150 administrative
fee, and he would be wii7ing to pay the $100 cancellation fee.
Ms. Schreiner stated she did not understand why Mr. Wajda felt he should
be treated differently than any other group, especially when another grouo
had cancelled a tournament and had paid the $250 with no 4uestions asked.
Mr, Kondrick stated the Commission did not set this po7icy to try to make
money. The Comnission spent a lot of time coming up with these costs, and
they decided the $100 cancellation fee and $150 administrative fee were a fair
cost to all groups. They have an obligation to all groups, both profit and
non-profit.
PARKS & RECREATION COM�ISSIO�� MEETIN6, MAY 6, 1985 PAGF 6
Mr. Allen stated he felt what the Comnission did was fair. He stated he
_has also dealt with alot of tournaments; and if this was such a concern
to Mr. Wajda, why was he now coming to the Commission nine months later?
If 6e �ad been in Mr. Wajda's position, 6e would have come into the office
r'L�hi away to try to work something out. But instead, it was the
Comnission and the City trying to seek information from him. As far as
the teams not paying until the day of the tournament, as Mr. Wajda had
stated, that was asking for disaster. He could not believe anyone would
wait until the day of the tournament to get money from the teams. He did
not think the procedure was handled well. He knew how much time Staff has
spent on this, and staff time is expensive. He felt what the Commission
had done was fair.
Mr, Young stated that in view of the fact that they have already established
a precedent with another group in the way they are going to operate, if they
didn't treat everyone the same, they could have all kinds of groups scheduling
and cancelling at the last moment.
Mr. Wajda stated he felt maybe the Commission should give the Director some
leeway in order to change the rules on the spur of the moment. In the five
years he has been running tournaments, this is the first time he has ever
had to cancel.
Ms. Scfireiner stated she could not even consider going back and sayinq
$100 was a17 right.
Mr. Wajda stated that he was prepared to go to court. The City Staff will
have to spend even more time and more effort by being represented in court
in order to te11 the judge exactly what these administrative costs are.
Mr. Kondrick stated Mr. Wajda had to do what he felt was best. He hoped
the Commission had made their position as clear as possible to Mr. Wajda.
The Commission felt the fees and policies they have set up are fair and
accurate.
Dr. Boudreau stated he has been directed by Officer Zimmerman of the Police
Dept. to report back on what happened at this meeting. He would do so.
Mr. Kondrick thanked Mr. Wajda for coming to the meeting and exnressing
f�is views. He stated he hoped they could again do�business sort�etime in
tfie future with a better understanding of tf�e City s policies.
c, Northeast Chamber and City Band
Dr. Boudreau stated the Commission had received a letter from Betty Scott,
Manager of the Northeast Chamber Orchestra requesting funding for 1986
the same as last year. He stated if the Commission approves this request,
they should also approve funding for the City Band.
MOTION BY M5. SCHREINER� SECONDED BY MR. YOUNG� TO APPROVE FUNDING TO THE
NORTFIEAST CHAMBER ORCXESTRA THE SAME AS LAST YEAR FOR FIVE CONCERTS AT
A MAXIMUM OF $I50 PER CONCERT: AND TO APPROVE FUNDING TO THE FRIDLEY CITY
BAND TNE SAME AS LAST YERR FOR SIX CONCERTS� WZTX A MAXZMUM OF $150 PER C(
PAP.KS & RECRFATION COMMISSION MEETING, MAY 6, 1985 PAGE 7
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAZRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE
MOTSON CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
d. 49'ers Days Events
Mr, Kirk stated this year would be the llth annual 49'ers Days. He stated
he was serving on tfre committee. It will have tl�e usual events, but this
year they will be co-sponsoring a tournament with the FYSA for a young
girls softball tournament. He stated most tournaments being run all summer
long through tf�e state are primarily for adults. There are hardly any for
the youth, They thirk this will 6e a nice t�lne to host a girls' tournament.
It wiil be on Sat, and Sun,
Dr. Boudreau stated it was tf�e long range plan that the FYSA in the future
run this tournament ou their own as a fundraiser and become a part of the
regular 49'ers Days event.
Mr, Allen stated he appreciated the intentions of the tournament, but he
was very disappointed that they were dropping the adult tournament.
e. June Meeting Location - Springbrook Nature Center
Dr,Boudreau stated that last year the Corrmissioners held their June meeting
at Springbrook Nature Center with a picnic supper before the meeting. He
thought tF�e Commission might like to do the same thing again this_year.
He stated it would also be a good time to take a tour of the park facilities
as has been done in the past. It will help them when they start their
discussions about input about the park areas.
The Cortmissioners were in agreement with the park tour, picnic supper, and
meeting at Springbrook Nature Center in June.
f. Softball Tournament Requests - Fridley Jaycees
MOTZON BY A112, YOUNG� SECONDED BY MS. SCXREINER� TO APPROVE TNE FOLLOWING
R1�URNAMENT RE(jUESTS FROM THE FRIDLEI' JAYCEES:
AUG. 2-3-4 - MEN'S CLASS B.STATE 2f�URNAMENT
AUG. 23-24-25 - COMBINATION MEN�S AND WOMEN'S CLASS D TOURNAMENT
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAZRPERSQ'J KONDRICK DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNRNIMOUSLY.
ADJOURNMENT:
NOTION BY MS. SCXREINER� SECONDED BY MR, YOUNG� TO ADJOURN TXE MEETING. UPON A
VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON KONDRZCK DECLARED THE MAY 6� Z985� PARKS &
RECREATION COMMISSIDN MEETZNG ALUOURNED AT 9:30 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
����L' [ C � t�-Ci�
�ynne a a, ecor ing ecretary
CITY OF fRIDLEY
EF�ERGY PROJECT COhP1ITTEE
MEETING
MAY 7, 1985
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson 5aba called the May 7, 1985, Energy Project Comnittee meeting to
order at 7:34 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Dean Saba, Alex Barna, Bruce Bondow, Maynard Nielsen,
Bradley Sielaff, Walt 5tarwalt. Dale Thompson
Members Absent: Glen Douglas
Others Present: Myra 6ibson, Energy Coordinator
APPROYAL OF APRIL 2, 1985, ENER6Y PROJE�T COMPIITTEE MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Sta►walt, to approve the April 2, 1985,
n�ergy Commission minutes as written.
UPON A VOICE YOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SABA DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
1. ELECTION OF OFFICERS FOR ENERGY COMMISSION: MAY 85 to MAY 86
Chairperson 5aba declared the nominations open for chairperson.
Mr. Bondow nominated Mr. Saba for chairperson. Mr. Thompson seconded the motion.
Hearing no other nominations, Chairperson Saba declared the nominations
closed.
MOTION by Mr. Bondow to cast a unanimous ballot for Mr. Saba for chairperson
of t e Energy Commission for 1985=86.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SABA DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIhXIUSLY.
Chairperson Saba declared the nominations open for vice-chairperson.
Mr. Saba nominated Mr. Sielaff for vice-chairperson.Mr. Bondow seconded the motion.
Hearing no other nominations, Chairperson Saba declared the nominations
closed.
MOTION by Mr. Saba °o cast a unanimous ballot for Mr. Sielaff as vice-
cTiairperson of the Energy Commission.
UPON A YOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIN6 AYE, CHAIRPER50N SABA DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ENER6Y PROJECT COMMITTEE MEETING, MAY 7, 1985 PAGE 2
2. UPDATE ON HOUSE DOCTOR PROGRAM
Ms. Gibson prc,vided an update on the House Doctor Program. The contractor
performing House Doctor's for the City of Minneapolis completed their contract
work 10 days early, and tMe City of Minneapolis has agreed to let the contractor
perform work for 10 days doing House Doctor's in the City of Fridley. Ms.
Gibson contacted ACCAP to get a list of residents receiving fuel assistance.
From that list of 286 households, they then looked for those that were considered
low income and elderly or disabled. The first 10 households meeting these
requirements who agreed to have the work done were scheduled to have the work
� perfortned by the contractor. The first home was completed May 7. The homes
are located throughout the City.
Ms. Gibson indicated that the work begins at 9:00 a.m. with an inspection
of the home, a blower door test, and an interview with the owner to find out
about the house, their energy use habits, etc. Two men work an average of
8 hours per day each, and the cost of labor and materials averages $450 per
house. The work is generally completed by 5:00 p.m. Ms. Gibson invited
the members of the comnittee to observe the work being done and suggested
calling her first to get the location and approximete work hours of the
contractor since the hours may vary somewhat.
Ms. Gibson indicated that, since the persons participating were part of the
fuel assistance p mgram, their names and addresses are considered confidential
and could not be given out publicly.
Mr. Barna suggested that a video or slide show be made using tl;ese homes as
a basis for a step-by-step example of what is done during a House Doctor
visit. He also suggested interviewing homeowners participating in this
initial program to get their thoughts. This could overcome fear that others
may have about the program. Mr. Barna also suggested the use of cable TV to
make residents more aware of the program, and this could also increase the
interest of the Block Captains.
Mr. Saba indicated that it would be nice to use as an example a house in a
person's own neighborhood to let residents know what has been done in their
area. He also indicated that a video specialist is on staff and that he/she
could assist in the preparation of a video which could also be used as part
of the educational segment for the House Doctor Program.
Ms..Gibson stated that they may not be able to do this; however, Minneapolis
may have a video which the City of Fridley may be able to use.
Mr. Gibson indicated that the committee would receive reports on consumption,
savings, etc.
ENERGY PROJECT GOMMITTEE MEETING MAY 7 1985 PAGE 3
3, DISCUSSION RE6ARDING THE ORAFT PROPOSALS TO.MINNEGASCO
Ms. Gibson distributed copies of the draft proposal to Minnegasco for the
House Doctor Program and reviewed the proposal with the committee. She
noted that the bipgest change was the addition af Exhibits A, B, C, D, and E.
The budget, Exhibit D, for the House Doctors wi11 very likely remain much
the same. However, Minnegasco raised a number of questions about the
Neighborhood Energy Workshops (NEW� �Exhibit E, and "s. Gibson expects changes
to be made in those figures.
The D.E.E.D, grant has been approved.• The Gity made some changes on the
grant application including prioritizing the project, and eliminating the
crosswalk/bikeway study and operation insulation. Signatures are now being
obtained. 80% of the funds wi11 6e sent initially and the remaining 20%
will be received after the final report it submitted to the State. Monthly
reports are required.
Minnegasca will keep records for the House Doctor Program and prepare
reports and �4s. Gibson will maintain that information needed by the City.
4. OTHER BUSINESS
A. Mr. Sielaff asked about the progress of the work plan and suggested
that this be included on the next agenda.
B. Mr. Saba asked if acditional information had been obtained regarding
financing programs to assist businesses in promotion energy projects
as described in a letter from the Minnesota Department of Energy and
Economic Development, and if there was more information regarding �MC's
efforts in energy conservation. These items should be included in
the next agenda.
C. Mr. Nielsen indicated that he had obtained information from the City
of Columbia Heights regarding therr program to identify owners of 2-4
unit buildings and has forwarded that information to Susan Merriam at
the City of Frid�ey. This item should be included in the next agenda:
D. Mr. Saba asked if ACCAP had provided additional information about their
programs and what had been done in the City of Fridley. Ms. Gibson
stated that they had received some information indicating that ACCAP
had reached 217 houses since 1978 through .their weatherization program,
and that 3 homes through their rehab program. Mr. Saba requested that
a representative from ACCAP be asked to attend the next meeting to
provide information on ACCAP and answer questions from the comnittee.
Ms. Gibson indicated that we are under negotiations with ACCAP and to
invite someone to this project committee would be unfair to the bther
6idding contractors,
E. Ms. Gibson indicated that she would be unable to meet at the next
scheduled time because she would not be in town, and if the project
committee would like to meet tenatively on June,lOth.
ENERGY PROJECT COMMITTEE MEETING, MAY 7, 1985 PA6E 4
As an update on the recycling program, Ms. Gibson indicated that one bid
had been received and, that to her knowledge, the bid would be awarded to
that bidder.
ADJOURNMENT:
AqTION by Mr. Bondow, seconded by Mr. Thompson, to adjourn the meeting. Upon
voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Saba declared the May 7, 19�5, Energy
Project Cortmittee meeting adjourned at 9:10 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
-�t.�
L vonn Coope�
Recordin9 Secretary