PL 11/06/1985 - 6858PLANNING CODII�ISSION MEET?S1G
City of Fridley
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WEDNESDAY, NWEt�ER 6, 1985
Loaation: Council Chamber (upper level)
�ALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
APPROYE PLANNING GOMMSSSSON MruUTES: OCTOBER 4. 7985
7:30 P.M.
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1. POBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT� SP
/85-12. HY E. ADERTAN SMITH:
Per Section 205.05.4 of the Fridley City Code, to allox a
different commercial use in an S-1 zoning district (special
zoning district for F�yde Park) located on Lots 27 and 28, Bloek
12, f�yde Park, t6e same being 5973 - 3rd Street N.E.
2. PUBLIC HEARIHG: CONSIDERATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT. P.S.
#85-06. RN ERWOOD PARK. BY CHARLES S. COOK:
Being a replat of all of Lots 27, 28, 29 and 30, Revised
Auditor's Subdivision No. 77, except Hlocks 1 and 2 platted as
Riverwood Manor, and except that part of said Lot 28 lying
Easterly of the following described line; Beginning at a point
on the South line of said Lot 28 distant 315.6�F feet West of the
Southeast corner thereof (said Southeast corner being in the
centerline of East River Road) thence North at right angles from
said South line to its intersection xith the North line of said
Lot 28 and there terminating.
3. REVIEW OF SP£CIAL USE PERMIT. SP #78-13. BY MINNESOTA PETROLEQM:
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CIT1' OF FRIDLEY
PLAt�tII�IG COP1�tiSSIOiJ MEETItJr,, OCT08ER 9, 1985
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairt•roman Schnabel called the �ctoher 9, 1985, Planning Commission meetinq to
order at 7:35 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
MeMbers Present: P1s. Schnabel, Ms, Gabel, Mr. Minton, Mr. Knndrick, Mr. Ilellan,
�1r. Saba
Menbers Absent: Mr, OaUist
Others Present: Jim Robinson, Planning Coordinator
Jerry Unglaub, 6425 Ashton Ave. N.E.
Harold Unglaub, 830 lJ, Moore Lake Drive
APPROVAL OF SEPTEI1QER 25, igg5, PLA'�I;ING COt7MIS5IDtJ MINUTES:
_�fO:IO?7 Bl' 1�3R, !�Z17T0:+, SECOA'DF.D BY ISR. SABA, TO APPRO?�E TNE SEPT, 25, 19F5, F:,=.':'�:I7:G
CO!1MISSIOID MIN'JTFS AS WRITTE.'J,
UPOV A VOICE VOTE, ALL '✓OTI-":� AYF� CHAIPC7C�?!AV SCHtiABEl DECLAF.ED TNE :90�70?: CARF.IED
JN�7.ti IMOUSLY,
PUCLIC HEARING•
1, CONSIDERATION 6� A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP 485-11, BY JERRY UNr,LAUB:
er ection .., , o e rt ey ity o e, to a o��r t e construct�,on
of a second accessory building, a 24 ft, bv 32 ft, utility shed on Lots 11
and 12, Block 13, Fridlev Park, the same being 6425 Ashton Avenue N.E.
""O�TOh' BF t1R. SABA, SECO::DED PP MS. GAAEL, TO OPEti THE PDBL:C NEAPI'7G OF
SP FQS-2i.
Dp�9' A VOICE VOTE, ALi VOTZ.".'G AYE, CHAIR[:'D^?A.2 SCH":A3EL DECLAPED Tf?E PL'P,LIC
HEARIhG OPEl7 AT 7:37 P.M..
Mr. Robinson stated this orooerty was locate+i just west of the tracks on
Ashton Ave, and north of 64th Way. It was zoned single family and was surrounded
by other single family. The special use permit �•ias for a second accessory
building, 24 ft. by 32 ft., located to the rear of the lot totvards the tracks.
The pr000sal was for 3 ft. se*_backs off the rear and side lot lines +rhich does
meet code. 7he petitioner is nronosing to build ��ithout a verifyinn survev
which he can do with a letter from the adjoininq pronerty owner. An aqreement
from Arnold Kastanek, the o�m er of the property at 6435 Ashton Ave., was
included in the agenda statinq that t1r. Y.astanek had no objection to the con-
struction of the utilitv shed.
Mr. Robinson stated staff had no stipulations other than the bu:lding �ias no=
to be used for r�otor vehicles that would require a drive��+ay as there ti•�as no
roon for a driveway.
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PLANNING COM�IISSION M�ETING, OCTOBER 9, 7985 PAGE 2
Mr. Jerry Unglaub stated he wanted the buiiding for storage of boat, wood,
truck tooper, lawn r�ower, etc, He stated he only has a single car garaqe
and in the three years he has lived in tf�is home, he has been unable to use
his present garage for anything but storage. The new building will help him
clean up his yard, and he absolutely had no intention of parking motor
vehicles fn it.
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR, WELLAl7� TO CLRSE TXE PUBLIC XEARING
ON SP N85-11.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTI!7G AYI%� CHAIP.WCMAN SCNNABF,L DECLARED THE PUBLIC
BEARING CLOSED AT 7:47 P,M.
MOTZON By MR. SABA, SECONDF.b BY MR. HONDRICK, TO RF,COMMEND TO CITY COLINCIL
2NE APpROVAL OF SPF,CIAL USE PERMIT, SP (185-II, BI' JERRY UNGLAUB� PER SECTION
205.07.2� C, 1 OF THE FRIDLEY CZTY CODE TO ALLOGI THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SECOND
ACCESSORY BUILDING� A 24 FT. BY 32 FT. UTILZTY SHED ON IATS ZI AND I2� BLOCK
13, FRZDLEY PARK, TNE SAME BEING 6C25 ASNSON AVEf7UE N.E. �
UPOlJ A I�OICE UOTE� ALL VOTING AY£� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABF.L DECLARED THE MOTZOfl
CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY.
2. RECEIVE SEPTE�IBER 17, i985LENVIRON�1ENTAL OUALITY COMMISSI�tJ t9INUTES:
MO_TION BY MR. WELLAN� SECONDED BY Mf2. KONDRICK, TO RECEIVE TXE SF.PT. 17� 19B5,
ENVIRONbfEN2'AL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES.
Mr. We71an stated Ms. Merriam has been trying to contact Mr. Beennan of Beerman
Services to find out how the participation rate is in the recvcling pick-uo
program.
Mr. Robinson stated they should probably invite �4r. Beerman to a EQC meet�ng
to talk about the program.
Mr. Minton stated he lived in a townhouse. He stated he and some of his
neighbors put out recyclables for pic�-up last month, but the recyclables were
never picked up. When he called Mr. Beerman, he was told that recvclables
were nat collected from multfple units.
Mr. Wellan stated they had pretty much restricted the pick-up program to single
fanily residences.
Mr. Minton stated that fact had not been made clear to him, and it would be
nice if the recycling pick-up program included townhouses which were not the
same as apartment buildings.
Mr. Saba stated a centrally located pick-up spot at townhouse comp)exes wou]d
be a good idea.
Mr. Wellan stated this was something that should be discussed with P1r. Beerman,
PLANNIIlG COP9MISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 9, 1985 PAGE 3
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Ms. Schnabel suggested that sor�e type of pre-printed card be developed and
printed in the citv newsletter that a hoMeowner could cut out, fill in the
day and �reek of their pick-up, and post somewhere in their home to remind them
of their nick-Up day.
Mr. Robinson stated something like that could be put in the city newsletter.
Ms. Schnabel stated she had read that Ramsey County and HenneRln Countv and
several other counties have con�osting sites. Since there still seems to be
an interest in cor�posting, she wondered if Anoka Countv iaould be willin� to r,ut
a compost site sone��rhere centrally located where it could be shared w:th Frialev
and Colur�bia Heights,for example.
Mr. Wellan stated they have talked about cor�posting in the City of Fridlev manv
times. It isn't the problem of just dumping the leaves and grass clippinqs;
it is the problem of Maintenance. He stated they could discuss this with
Anoka County and see if there was any interest.
Mr. Robinson stated the mandatory la�r has passed that there will be no land
filling after 1990, and 25-30;: of all solid waste is grass cliopinqs and leaves.
Sonething will have to be done soon.
Ms. Schnabel stated this was another good reason why the County should get involved.
OTHER 6USINE55:
a. Parkinq Stall Size
Mr. Robinson stated that as the Commission knew, abou! a year aqo, U�itv
Hospital applied for a special use permit for the exoansion of their �arkinn
lot, but because of cost nro6lems and exoansion, it was delayed, l�lhen they
finally got around to �utting in the narkinq lot, they decided to trp for
9 ft, stalls with a variance rather than put in a piece of qarking lot that
might have to be rer�oved at sone point in tiMe. The 9 ft. stalls would be
only for emoloyee oarking.
Mr. Robinson stated that as the issue r�oved throuqh the Appeals Conmission
and City Council, there tiaere some questions about �ahat other cities were
doinq regarding parking stall size. He stated the suburbs were polled, and
it appeared that Fridley and Brooklyn Park are the only two suburbs which
require ten ft, stall widths. Six of the cities allor� nine ft, stalls while
three allow 8'z ft. stalls. Several cities also allow for a oercentaqe of
the total stalls to be designated as cor�pact stalls under certain circumstances.
Mr, Robinson stated that the issue of smaller oarking stalls was discussed
a few years ago and vetoed by the City Council. Some advantaqes to smaller
stall size are less hard-surfaced area, less cost for development, and less
run-off, On the other hand, it is hard to get big cars in and out oF
smaller stalls.
PLANNIIJG COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 9, 1985 PAGE 4
Mr. Robinson stated that in the case of Unity Hospital, he felt the variance
was warranted because the 9 ft. stail width was just for the employee park-
inq lot. By reducing the stall width, they are saving green space and
will have a greater buffer between residential and tfie hospital parking lot.
Mr. Robinson stated the question has now come up: Should the City be
looking at 9 ft, staTls? The City Councii has asked for some input from
the Planning Commission.
Ms. Gabel stated t�e reason she voted in favor of the variance to 9 ft.
stall width for Unity Hosoital was because the 9 ft. stall width was for
employee parking only. She felt employee parking was more stable parking.
People are parking and staying at least a 4-9 hr, shift, and there are not
cars coming in and out all day.
Mr. Saba stated he tho�ight what made logical sense at this point was to look
at the possibility of a compact car percentage like some of the other
corrmunities have done.
Ms. Gabel stated Un'tty Hospital was not in favor of the Appeals Commission`s
suggestion of setting aside spaces for compact cars. They felt there could
be some problems wit(� employees because of where the compact car spaces
were located. Some emp]oyees with larger cars might not like it that the
people with compact cars got to park closer to tfie buflding, or vice versa,
Mr. Wellan stated that the cost of everything is a big concern these days,
and the City shou7d not overburden their industry by keeping limitations
such as 10 ft. parking stalls. He felt a 9 ft. sta7] was adequate. He felt
a 10 ft, stall was a waste of space, especially in an emoloyee parking l�t.
Employees tend to be more careful and respectful of other people's cars
_ than people do in a general parking lot.
Ms, 6abe1 stated she felt the City has been sanewhat inconsistent, Nine ft.
oarking stalls were ailowed by the NRA and the City for the Target emp7oyee
parking lot in the Center City Redeveiopment area. They shouid decide what
they are going to do and do it. If 9 ft, parking stall width is the wav
they want to handle it, then it should be handled by changing the coAe and
not with a lot of variances.
MOTION BY MR. MINTON, SECONDED BY MR. WELLAN, TO HE'COMMEND TO CZTY COUNCIL
THAT TXE ZONING ORDINANCE BE CHANGED TO STRTE THAT 9 FT, PARKING STALLS BE
ALIAWED FOR DESZGNATED EMPLOYEE PARKZNG AREAS.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANSMOUSLY,
b, Possible Development on 5outhwest Quadrattt of Center Citv Redevelopment District
Mr, Robinson stated there has been some interest from a couple of developers
in the southwest corner of the downtown area Qf the Center City Redeveloa-
PLANNINr, CnM�1I5SI0N �4EETI"�G, OCTOBER 9, 1985 P�r,E 5
ment District. Some of the things that cnuld be developed there would
require a number of special use nerrvits and possible variances. 7hev are
quickly gettinq into an area of development in the city where they will
be seeing so�e parking ranns. The Fridley Plaza Clinic just receive�
approval for two small parking ramos. The possible develooment on the
southwest corner mould require a parkinq ramp and others might be needed on
the drive-in site.
�dr. Robinson stated Staff's thinking at this point is that rather than qo
to the Planning Commission with numerous specia] use permits that they
try to again utilize the S-2 District where a preliminary plan would be
approved. With S-2 zoning, all changes would require formal review hv the
Planning Commission and City Council but would not require additional public
hearings after the preliminary plan was approved with the rezoning to S-2.
Mr. Robinson stated one problem was that the City only allows up to six
story buildings in the City. The proposal they are lookinq at for the
south+,�est corner was for a 10-story residential complex in conjunction
with commercial. They are looking at a multiole storv building on the
drive-in site, so there are potential parkinq problems, lot coverage
problems, and pcssibly other variances.
Mr. Robinson stated the other thinq discussed was the change to C-3 zoning
in the Zoning Code to allo�i for qreater lot coveraqe because of parkinq
ramps and modifying the height restrictions so it accommosates the development.
Ms. Gabe1 stated that "modifying the zoning to acconimodate the development" was
somethinq that concerned her. That was sayinq--let's not let the develop-
ment work within the community and the way it has developed over the years.
She wanted develooment to happen, but she did not want the develo�er arritinq
the code for the City, This r,articular area cauld very easily be over-
developed.
Mr. Saba stated he agreed, He felt there was a biq danqer in overdevelonin�.
Ms. Schnabel stated that the possibility of 6uildings over six stories should
be revietaed �aith the Fire Department to get their reaction.
Ms. Gabel stated there could be a lot of problems with a ten-story hiqh
building in this area. How close would the building be to the residential
area and how high? What was the visual impact? What was the traffic imoact?
These were all ir�portant questions.
Mr. Kondrick stated he would be in favor of a ten-story elderly highrise
in this location. He felt it was needed, and the southwest corner would
be an excellent location.
Ms. Gabel stated it made good sense to deal with the neiqhbors first so
they know up front what is going to happen. If they just rezo�e the
property to S-2, the ballgame is over. Then the developer can do whatever
he wants and that doesn't mean the neighbors would then have any inout;
whereas, if they rezoned it with a nlan to go with it, the neigh6ors would
have a chance to give their input.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 9, 1985 PAGE 6
Ms. Schnabel agreed. Once the property was rezoned to S-2, if the
developer is not able to follow through with the plan they have anproved,
then the S-2 zoning was already there.
Ms. Gabel stated when they are talking about as big a neighborhood as
there was in this area that would be impacted, she thought the City had
some responsibilities to live up to the current zoning, and they shouidn't
do something that would be impactinq the entire neighborhood, There was
no way s�e would turn her back on a whole neiqhborhood like that and say
this development was for the good of tfie whole community. There was no
way that it is good for the whole community, Tf the City has the neighbor-
hood's input and the neighbors are given the opportunity to speak, the
City can make these things happen in a way that is a lot more conducive
to good pub7ic relations. She understood there were going to be some
people who will not want any change, no matter what it is.
Mr. Robinson stated there were three options: (1) rezone to S-2 with a
preliminary plan; (2) change C-3 zoning to accommodate the development;
(3} leave the code the way 9t is now.
Ms. Schnabel stated she would be against changing the zoning code on
G 3 zoning.
The Commissioners basically agreed that rezoninq to S-2 witfi a development
plan was probably the best way to go. They were concerned as to who would
make the judgement cail to bring the plan back to the Plannin9 Cornmission
if there were substantial changes to that plan. When there are substantial
changes to that p1an, the neighbors should definitely be involved.
Mr. Robinson stated they might want to put special stipulations on the
development p7an which related to significant changes to the plan.
ADJOURf�l�1ENT :
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK, SF,CONDED BY MR. SABA, TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. UPON A
VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTS.dG AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLAPED THE OCTOBER 9� 1985,
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING RDJpURNED AT 9:05 P,M,
Respectfully submitted,
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Recording Secretary
PUBIIC HEARING
BEFORE THE
PLANNING LOMM155ION
Notice is fiereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the Planning
Commission of the City of Fridley in the Lity Hall at 6431 llniversity Avenue
Northeast on Wednesday, November 6, 1985 , in the Council Chamber at 7:30 p.m.
for the purpose of:
Consideration of a Special Use Permit, SP �85-12,
by E. Aderian Smith, per Section 205.05.4 of the
Fridley City Code, to allow a different commercial
use in an S-1 zoning district (special zoning
district for Hyde Park} located on Lots 27 and 28,
Block 12, Hyde Park, the same being 5973 - 3rd
Street N.E.
_ kny and all persons desiring to be heard shall be given an opportunity at the
above stated time and place.
VIRGINIA SCHNABEL
CHAIRWOMAN
PLANNIN6 COMMISSION
Publish: October 21, 1985
October 28, 1985
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MAILING LIST
SP #85-12
Midwest Classified
5973 - 3rd Street N.E.
Midwest Classified
E. Aderian Smith
7260 University Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
White Task Investments
Ronald A. Gazda
11796 Able Street N.E.
Blaine, MN 55434
Northwestern Bell Telephone Company
5920 - 3rd Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Robert J. Ecker
5940 - 3rd Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
E. Norwood
B. Braithwaite
7412 Lyndale Avenue South
Minneapolis, MN 55423
Willard C. Guimont
5980 - 3rd Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Lawrence Muggli
1T796 Able Street N.E.
Blaine, MN 55434
John B. Rasmussen
8855 - 230 Street East
Lakeville, MN 55044
John Pawluk
5931 - 3rd Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Wanda M. Laubach
5925 - 3rd Street N.E.
fridley, MN 55432
Frank M. Gabrelcik
5923 - 3rd Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Robert P. Williams
5945 - 2', Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Planning Commission
City Council
Alfred Gabei
5947 - 2z Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Hugh Churchill
5955 - 2�Z Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
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John T. Kelly
3801 Crystal Lake Boulevard
Robbinsdale, MN 55422
Michael Pestello
6011 - 3rd Street N,E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Frank J. Kearney
6�10 - 3rd Street N,E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Franklin H. Hart
6000 - 3rd Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
John E. Wolfe
6007 - 3rd Street N.E,
Fridley, MN 55432
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Notice is hereby given
Commission of the City
Northeast on Nednesday,
for the purpose of:
PUBLIC HEARING
BEFaRE THE
PLANNING COMMISSION
that there will be a Public Hearing of the Planning
of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431 University Avenue
November 6, 1985 , in the Council Chamber at 7:30 p.m.
Consideration of a Preliminary Plat, P.S. �85-06,
Riverwood Park, by Charles S. Cook, being a replat
of all of Lots 27, 28, 29 and 30, Revised Auditor's
Subdivision P�o. 77, except Blocks 1 and 2 platted
as Riverwood Manor, and except that part of said
Lot 28 lying Easteriy of the following described
line: Beginning at a point on the South line of
said Lot 28 distant 315.64 feet West of the South-
east corner thereof (said Southeast corner being in
the centerline of East River Road) thence North
at right angles from said South line to its
intersection with the North line of said Lot 28 and
there terminating.
Any and all persons desiring to be heard shall be given an opportunity at the
above stated time and place.
VIRGINIA SCHNABEL
CHAIRWOMAN
PLANNING COMMISSION
Publish: �ctober 21, 1985
October 28, 1985
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FRIDLEY
CIVIC CENTER •(+131 UNIVERS[TY AVE. N.E. FR{DLEY, h1INNESOTA 55432 • pHpNE�bl�� 571_3a5p
October 18, 1985
RE: Planning Commission Public Nearing on Riverwood Park Preliminary
Plat
Dear Resident:
Due to an error in the original legal description of this preliminary
plat, the meeting date for the public hearing has been changed from
October 23, 1985 to November 6, 1985.
Please disregard the previous public hearing notice, as the attached
public hearing notice is correct.
Sincerely, � �
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� James L. Robinson
� Planning Coordinator
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Atta�h. - Public Hearing Notice
C-85-271
� CITY OF FRIDLEY
� 6�31 UNIYERSiTY AVE. N.E.
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REZONING REQUEST ZOA �
YACATION REQU�ST SAV #
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PLATTING REOUEST P.S. � $5-oj�
665.00 pp�g pEE gp�IPf # ��
9QiF]�3LID pS.ANNIIIG �I�Y�i7.SgI0N AEEfING I]yyTE 10/23/85
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PROPERTY INFORMATION
PROP£RTY ADIRFSS 7150 East River Rpad
' LF�AL AESQ2IPfI0N:
12/2/85
LOT BLO(7G 7RAQ'/ADpITIDN See attached plat plan
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RET�SCtd i�R R$UEST: A site glan sharing the proposed future use is re;uired for all
iezoning.
Sub-divide site into residential lots
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OWNER INFORMATION
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PETITIONER INFORMATION
9/25/85
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In determining fair market value c� pu4lic areas for lard subdivision for cash
paym�it as re3uired b� Ordir�nne #633, the following values vill be used:
Residential Subdivision
Residential Lot Split
Canmercial/Industrial Subdivision or Lot Split
$1,500.00 per lot
$ 750.00 per lot
$ 0.023 per s�. ft.
�is fee is to be paid at the tine af fizal plat o[ lot aplit apgcwal. 'Ihe City
Co;mcil rt� defer mllection to the time a b.�ilding permit is requestecf for
irxi�vidual lots czeated b�r su� subdivision/lot split.
4he City cetains the oFtion to acoeFt an equivalent ano�mt in cash fran th..
applicarrt for part or all of the portion required to be dedicated.
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The indersi�ed undecstan� that according to the City Platting Ordir�nce, the
follv.iing puhlic �ark land 8edication is re3uired to glat residerGial, wnunercial
or industrial zoned property.
It is further �derstood that the puhlic park land dedication or cash peymerrt
e9uivilent is at the discretion of the City �t�� ,�r0 O
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It is agreed that a cash peymer� of $� vi11 be paid according to the
above stated Fnlicy for the fallaaing subdivision/lot sglit.
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It is agreed that the fnilcwing land dedication is prwided acoording to the
atxwe stated Folicy for the fnllowing subdivision/lot split.
L�edi ca ti on:
�lxiivision/I,ot Split:
'Rse u�dersi�ed further aqrees to rotify all future property awr,ecs or assicy�s of
t,e cash peymelrt ra�uirenent, if it is to be collected at the time of iss�enoe of
a tuilding permit.
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P.S. #85-06
Riverwood Park
Charles S. Cook
12640 Grouse Street
Coon Rapids, MN 55433
Alfred E. Latour
80 Alden Circle
Fridley, MN 55432
Richard M. Helton
60 Alden Circle
Fridley, MN 55432
Richard A. Hillsdale
61 Alden Circle
Fridley, MN 55432
John J. Snider
81 Alden Circle
Fridley, MN 55432
Dennis Anderson
124 - llst Way
Fridley, MN 55432
Rodney Salo
136 - llst Way
Fridley, MN 55432
Leo J. Bender
146 - 715t Way
Fridley, MN 55432
Nita A. Robbin
158 - 71st Way
Fridley, MN 55432
Bruce Nelson
168 - 71st Way
Fridley, MN 55432
Douglas E. Hermanson
180 - 71st Way
fridley, MN 55432
Michael A. Hage1
114 - 71st Way
Fridley, MN 55432
Gordon W. $angster
7164 Riverview Terrace
Fridley, MN 55432
MAILING LIST
Steven L. Witzig
7175 Riverview Terrace
Fridley, MN 55432
Ronald 8. Pipes
7179 Riverview Terrace
Fridley, MN 55432
Willemina K. Schrader
110 Alden Circle
Fridley, MN 55432
Arthur C. Hoff
lOD Alden Circle
Fridley, MN 55432
Patrick J. Juenemann
117 Alden Circle
Fridley, MN 55432
Arthur A. Boike
133 Alden Circle
Fridley, MN 55432
Thomas J. Kinson
125 Alden Circle
Fridley, MN 55432
Bruce H. Hanley
132 Alden Circle
Fridley, MN 55432
Donald L. Nielsen
115 - 71'� Way
Fridley, MN 55432
John L. Bass
7132 Riverview Terrace
Fridley, MN 55432
Maynard A. Nielsen
7144 Riverview Terrace
Fridley, MN 55432
L. Vernon Moen
7154 Riverview Terrace
Fridley, MN 55432
Robert DeVries
7158 Riverview Terrace
Fridley, MN 55432
Planning Commission 10/18/B5 2 L
City Cauncil
Douglas Larson
7162 Riverview Terrace
Fridley, MN 55432
Pepito C. Albay
7105 Riverview Terrace
Fridley, MN 55432
Arvid J. Krogsveen
6711 Quincy Street
Fridley, MN 55432
June D. Nichols
6944 Nickory Drive
Fridley, MN 55432
William V. May
7110 Riverview Terrace
Fridley, MN 55432
Howard Crabtree
7100 Riverview Terrace
Fridley, MN 55432
Allen Rolland
188 - 715t Way
Fridley, MN 55432
Thomas K, Swanson
184 - 71st Way
Fridley, MN 55432
School District �14
6000 West Moore Lake Drive
Fridley, MN 55432
Larry Johnson
7120 Riverview Terrace
Fridley, MN 55432
Roger G. Claesgen
7130 Riverview Terrace
Fridley, MN 55432
Conrad D. Rowe
7138 Riverview Terrace
Fridley, MN 55432
Dennis M. Scheller
7121 Riverview Terrace
fridley, MN 55432
P.S. �85-06
Riverwood Park
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Jon R. Dahl
7131 Riverview Terrace
Fridley, MN 55432
Trygve Olson
7145 Riverview Terrace
Fridley, MN 55432
Donald J. Weeding
7153 Riverview Terrace
Fridley, MN 55432
Russell J. Burns
7157 Riverview Terrace
Fridley, MN 55432
Burton F. Dahlquist
7161 Riverview Terrace
Fridley, MN 55432
Wesley B. Garcia
7109 Ashton Avenue
Fridley, MN 55432
Happy Acres
4952 Unity Avenue
Robbinsdale, MN 554�
Steven L. Torgrimson
7115 Ashton Avenue
Fridley, MN 55432
Don N. McMillon
7119 Ashton Avenue
Fridley, MN 55432
Timothy J. Edwards
7125 Ashton Avenue
Fridley, MN 55432
John M. Kehner
7129 Ashton Avenue
Fridley, MN 55432
Steven B. 0'Quinn
7135 East River Road
Fridley, MN 55432
Barbara T, friedhoff
7155 East River Road
Fridley, MN 55432
Terrence D. Munn
3601 - 48th Avenue North
Brooklyn Center, MN 55429
Edward J. Stellick
7181 East River Road
Fridley, MN 55432
John A. Dady
7165 East River Road
Fridley, MN 55432
Darrel D. Madsen
7819 University Avenue
Fridley, MN 55432
Thomas J. Kinson
125 Alden Circle
Fridley, MN 55432
Richard L. Waltz
7107 Ashton Avenue
Fridley, MN 55432
Larry Clanton
7210 East River Road
Fridley, MN 55432
Richard Smallwood
7180 East River Road
fridley, MN 55432
Donald L. Nielson
115 - 71%z Way
Fridley, MN 55432
Elmer F. Pilgrim
101 Alden Circle
Fridley, MN 55G32
John C. Beaulieu
111 A1den Circle
Fridley, MN 55432
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NASIY QURESHI
CITY MANAGER'S OF£ICE
JB,)ECT:
CONCERN A80UT TVPE QF ACTIY2TY AT
5�33 UNIYERSITY AYENUE K.f. (FIRE)
MEM�RANDUM JF-283
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There 1s sone concern tron� the nelghborhood that the type of activfty goinfl on
could be potenttally hazardous to the netgf�borfiood, vhether 1t is hazardous
eiatertal, the potential of explostons, or other things. We should clebk out
whether the activittes betn9 conducted are proper for the zone or should it
be 1n the lndustrlal zone, tnd then please wme up rith recommendations.
Thank you for your assistance.
NMQ/ms
August 7, 1985
As I previously indicated to you in my memo NSS-7-2 I could not find evidence
of service work beyond that which was Connected with the business of repair and
installation of gasoline pumps and other related service station equipment.
I did research with Sue of the planning department the conditions of the special
use permit issued in 197B. Mr. Steve Hansen in his presentation before the
Planning Comnission on Decenber 6, 1978, in response to a question from Mr.
Harris regarding storage of containers, stated 'they would possibly be storing
55 gallon drums of hoist oil and motor oil; they would want to keep the underground
storage tanks that are presently there for fueting their own trucks and make
use of them, so they would not be storing anything hazardous above ground."
On the day of the fire there were 55 gallon drums labeled as a hazardous waste
stored as well as 55 gallon drums of a polyester resin with a relatively
severe fire hazard classification.
It would appear to me that present use is not consistent with the use described
when the special use permit was requested and subsequently granted.
Bob Aldrich
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C.ITYOF
FRIDLEY
CIVIC CEVTFR • bt31 UNIVERSITY AVE. N.E. FRIDLEI'. MINNESOTA 5943? • PHONE i61'� 571-3�iSo
lugust 1g, 1985
Steven Har.son
Ninnescts Petroleum
5333 Ur.iversity Aven�e N.E.
Fridley, HN 5543z
Dear Mr. Hanson:
On December 1&, 1478 you were granted a Special Use Permit to operate a fuel
pu�F ^efurbishing business at 5333 Univer:_Ly Avenue N.E. This permit Was
grar.ted under Section 205.1�1, 3, �, of the Frid'_ey City Code. :hzt
particular secton of Lhe code is G2, Genera: Busioess, a comaerr.ial zone.
The specific secticn of the Code under which you Yere granted the Specio'. Use
Percit reads as follows:
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I ci[e this section of t�e code to reinform you of y�our obligations ir,
operating a special use in this zone,
with the recer.t fire at your business, it has come to our attention Lhat you
have expanded your operatior., beyond that vhich was originally steted in yocr
Special Use Permit request, Lo include operations which are heavy industrial
in nature. Fire Cbief, Bob Aldrich, noted 55 gallon dru¢� Izbeled es
haz�rdous waste as uell as 55 gallon drums of a polyester resin xith a
relatively severe fire bazard classification stored above ground in your yard
area.
Let me call your attention to the minutes of the Plannir,g Commission meetir.g
of December 6, 1978 vhere you stated that you would store aot6ing dange^ous
a0ove ground. Other stipulations which you agreed to but failed to
accooplish ir,clude landscaping, curbing and no storage ouLSide Of Lhe fenced
area. Repeated atteu�pts by City staff to elicit your cooperation have beer.
unsuccessful.
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Steven Hanson
August 19, 1985 �
Page 2
It is our coatention that when you ezpanded your operation Lo include
activitles of a definitely industrial nature, you violated tLe conditions of
your Special Use Permit and also created aa illegal non-coaforming use of
commercially zoned land. Futhermore, when the fire destroyed your service
yard you lost any laxful noo-conforming status your original pump operation
oay have had; as per Section 205.04.3, D of the Fridley City Code. For
these reasons xe are directing you to make application for a rezonir.g to K-2,
heavy industrial, in order to bring your business into lavful conformance.
If you desire to revert back to Lhe original uae of the property as approved
by the City Council in 1q78 you must reapply for a new Special Use Permit to
define your intent and to address aray racterior atorage of materials at Lhe
aite.
No rebuilding or aeW construction of aqy type vlll be authorized until the
rezoning and/or new Special Use Permit have been formally approved by City
Council.
The appropriate applications are eaclosed along xith the original section of
Lhe code providing for your Special Use Permit, section 205•0�.3� D dealing
vith nonconforming uses and structures and a copy of the H-2 zoning code.
Sincerely,
James L. Robinson
Planning Coordinator
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ec: Nasim Qureshi, City Hanager
Da�id Nexaan, City Attorney
John Flors, Public Works Director
Bob Aldrich, Fire Chief
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MINNESOTA PETROLEUM SERVICE, ING.
5333 L'k'!l"EA.517'Y AY£- N£ • 4)7.\'�"F_.1PoL75. S11�C\'ES07'd Si17/ (6/7) S7)-R190
October 11, 1985
Mr. James Robinson
Civic Center
6431 University Ave. N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Mr. Robinson:
In reference to our prior conversations regarding Minnesota Petroleum
Service, I am explaining below Che specific information you requested,
along with my feelings on the matter.
During our meeting, which was after your letter of August, 1985, I
felt that the specifics of what our company does had been indicated
to the City of Fridley. In order to go into great detail would cover
a great deal of material. Perhaps your greatest concern is what we,
or the petroleum industry, deals with asfar as supplies, equipment,
materials, etc. I get this feeling from the statement you made "Let
me call your attention to the minutes of the Planning Commission meeting
of Dec. 6, 1978, where you stated that you would store nothing dangerous
above ground." However, as I read the same minutes, what was said
was "They would possibly be storing 55 gallon drums for hoist oil
and motor oil. They wouid want to keep the underground storage tanks
that are presently there for fueling their own trucks, and make use of them
so they would not have anything that dangerous aboveground". When
a person comes to defining dangerous, we will find that many things
are, or could be, dangerous: The foods we eat, the medication we take,
the way we fuel our cards, the manner in which we change oil in equipment,
the vapors we inhale, how we drive, etc.
I get the feeling that because you do not have a complete understanding
of what we do, you would like to see us leave the City of Fridley.
Our company, our people and myself have extended cooperation to the
City of Fridley and the neighborhood to inform them as to the nature
of our business. We could go on and perhaps never reach an agreement,
but I really do believe that you care.
I do not feel that Minnesota Petroleum Service has ever abandoned our
original intent for the business and services to our customers, and
therefore, should be allowed to replace the small area which was
damaged by the fire which you had previously denyed our request to
rebuild.
You requested in your letter of August 19, 19$5, £or us to define our
intent and address the exterior storage of materials at the site.
It was indicated that some of the materials which were temporarily at
the location on University Avenue on the day of the fire presented a
"relatively severe fire hazard classification", I would like to note
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City of Fridley
October 11, 1985
Page Two
that these materials (Novolac Phenolic resin and unsaturated polyester
resins) present no more danger than paint thinners, gasoline, etc.
You indicated that you wished that portion of the business to be removed
from the area. We have done this. I don't know if these items were
necessarily in violation, but we were looking for a storage/warehouse
area because of space requirements for Minnesota Petroleum.
We had previously discussed expanding our operation to the North
of our area with the City and the present owner of the land, We
needed more storage. We were told that we could perhaps get a
variance if we were to erect a building immediately. We no longer
need this space because we acquired the other warehouse. We are
simply asking to be able to rebuild what we had.
Listed below are the items which would be stored in the outside area.
Inventory of exterior/interior lighting fixtures for resale,
Inventory of hydraulic hoists and accessories for resale.
Inventory of both new and used dispensing equipment for resale.
The items could, if necessary, be modified in our shop area to meet
customer's requirements.
Inventory of compressed air systems, including compressor,
air dryers, pressure vessels, etc.
Inventory of pipe, fitting, manholes, fill caps, vent caps, emergency
fire valves for our own installation use and resale.
Inventory of general public items such as transfer pumps, floor
creeper, oil dispensers, automotive ramps, 265 gal. fuel oil tanks,
gauges, etc.
Inventory of bagged concrete (68//-90�), blacktop, cold patch, floor dry
for resale.
Inventory of miscellaneous materials such as light ballasts, light bulbs,
replacement lenses, hydraulic oils, motor oils, nozzles, hoses and repair
_ or replacement items.
Temporary storage of such items necessary to service and install equipment
such as service vehicles, installation and testing equipment, portable
air compressors, portable welder, torches, transfer pumps.
Temporary storage ot items needed to perform services for customers
during different seasons throughout the year, such as small portable
tanks and drums to remove contaminates from underground/aboveground
tanks and insure pure product for the customer tex; water in gasoline,
diesel fuel, water in hydraulic oil, water in compressed air system.)
Minnesota Petroleum Service does abide by all M.P.C.A. and Federal PCA
regulations concerning handling of any hazardous wastes.
Even though Minnesota Petroleum had a fire, this was not caused by
the storage of materials. The resin materials did not spread the fire,
and had the heat not been so intense, these materials may not have
even been damaged. You stated that Bob Aldrich noted certain items
in our yard. When the Fire Department arrived, I notified all concerned
about the resins, and did not try to "hide" anything.
The resins that were here were only stored temporarily due to the
fact that they were for specific jobs we had, and that they only have
a shelf live of approximately 45 days.
cicy of Fridley
October 11, 1985
Page Three
Perhaps we could have avoided some problems if we had sent you
a diagram of our yard and what was stored where. I do have one
of the yard prior to the fire if you wish it. I will also
give you a new one which will be current and accurate when we
get our yard finished.
Since one problem is the storage of "polyester resins", we have
moved into an industrial zoned area, out of Fridley, and have
approval to do so. We do though have a few items to finish before
everything is 100%, and we will be more than happy to notify you
of its location as soon as all requirements are fulfilled. We do
intend to keep our corporate office located in Fridley.
We understand your concern fos the City of Fridley, and we are
hopeful that we can work together to provide you and the City
with your requirements and for us to get our yard and shop back into
an acceptable condition.
Sincerely,
d«'/
Stevect--ttanson
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CITY OF FRIALEY
SPECIAL HOUSING 5 REDF,i/IIAPp7ENP AITPHORITY
MEETi2�l6 MINITP£,S
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C�1,L TO ORDER: Chairperson Commers called the September 5, 1985 Special
Housing 6 Redevelopnent Authority meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
R[x—r. rar.r.;
Msnbers Present: Lazry Caimers, Carolyn Sbendsen, Walter Rasmussen, Duane
Prairie
M�r�bers Absent: Elmars Prieditis
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The Housing & Redeveloprtient Authority reviewed the LaSalle Partners, Inc.
proposal �equest and decided to support the 71st Avenue site, offerin9 up to
25 acres and an incentive of $3,506,000 and to provide an incentive foc ten
acres of the 100 R�vin Drive-in site, with an offer of $3,0@0,000. The
Housing � Redevelopnent Authority would insure the pzoperty would be made
available to FMC.
The Housing & Redevelopment Authority suggested having the Housing &
Redevelopnent Authority Chaicman, the Mayor, and members of the City staff
make an offer to FMC to attend the meeting to make a formal presentation to
the FMC Management Board in Chicago.
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Motion by Mr. Prieditis, seconded by Ms. Swendsen, to reschedule the public
hearing foi October 10, 1985 regarding the purchase and cesale of Lot 4 and
Lot 7(ESccept the southerly 30 feet thereof), Block 4, University Industrial
Park, located at 7480 and 7940 Ranchers Road N.E.
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The Housing & Redevelopnent Authority suggested the City obtain estimates to
provide �mderground electric service to those buildings within the Rice Creek
Plaza Ccmplex.
Motion by N1r. Prieditis, seconded by Mr. Prairie, to amend the �esolution
changing the �vnount fran $95,800 to $85,900 and adopt Resolution No. 12-1985
as amended.
. � . �. 1.. : 71� 7►I f :ul�q� : f4,.� ; 4 ��_� �. - 1� .v��_i
¢, CQjQ$TD$RATTQj�T OF S�R� C�+w F 90MMC�CJ+TTONS REOUEST FOR REIMBURSEMENT
�3_,UPIDERQ20UAID CABI,E LINFS
The Ho�sing & Redevelognent Authority discussed Storer Cable's request for
rei�ribursenent for underground cable lines.
I�9tion by Mc. Prieditis, seconded by Ms. Svendsen to deny Storer Cable's
zequest for reimbursenent, t�Ls. S�ensen suggested that Staff notify the Cable
Ca�mission of their decision.
5. Rr�EW OF C�IVERSITY AVENLJE �RRT�]R STC�Y PROR�SALS
The Housing & Redevelopnent Authority will discuss this item at their next
meeting.
6. �,,,rmA'PF OF SSA'I`�JS FOR C�7P�R CI'!'Y DEl7�t�PPL�'�ff
The Housing � Redevelopment Authority discussed the Clinic expansion and
surrouttding Center City area parking needs and supported the concept to place
a two level ramp on the west of the clinic and a three to three and a half
leve2 ramp on the east of the clinic.
BAIWRIII+iENP:
Q�airperson Conmezs adjourned the Septembet 5, 1985 HoUSing & Redevelopment
Authority meeting at 19:39 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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CITY OF fRIDLEY
SPDCIAL HOUSING & RIDEVEfAP4'�7P AU'ifIORITY
MEETING MINVPES
SEPtFPiBER 30, 1985
CAIS. 1t� ORDER:
Chaicperson Commecs called the September 36, 1985 Special Housing &
Redevelopnent Authority meeting to order at 7:47 p.m.
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Members Present: Iarcy Cumrers, Duane Prairie, ELnars Prieditis
Manbers Absent: Walter Rasmussen, Carolyn St�endsen
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A. Fridley Plaza Clinic bcpan5ion and Ramp:
The Housing & Redevelognent Authority reviewed the expansion plans for the
Fridley Plaza Clinic. Also the Housin9 6 Redevelopment Authority
discussed the clinic expansion and surrounding Center City a�ea parking
needs and there was consensus of opinion that the level of activity in the
area is much higher than originally anticipated so there seems to be a
need for a public ramp to meet the grawing need. The Housing &
Redevelopment Authority supported the proposal of the Clinic to build a
two level ramp west of their expansion and to build a three to three and a
half level public ramp on the east of the existing Clinic building.
B. Office Building at Corner of 63rd and University Service Drive:
7'ne Housing & Redevelopnent Authority suppocted the zequest if delayed
payment includes interest or contribution to ramp development.
2. UPiY1TE ON rNTERS TON OE' r APID T H 65 AN9 1 aGt 'lWIN GrTE
Motion by Duane Prairie, seconded by Elmars Prieditis to approve the offer to
purchase the home on Old Central for the higher of two appraisals as it was
necessary for the road i�arovanents.
MSotion by Flmars Prieditis, seconded by Duane Prairie to send a lettec to FF;C
withdrawing the City's offer for a F�iC Technology site on 73rd Avenue and the
109 Ztvin DrivrIn.
3. BObID ISSUE
F�eceived explanation of bonding procedures for both fixed and variable rates
for general ohligation and revenue bonds from Miller and Schroeder.
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The Housing 6 Redevelopment Authority requested Staff to inform the
businessnen of results of proposals and to schedule a meeting ttext year to
discuss the proposal. They also directed staff to inform the consultants
their action is deferred at this time.
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The Housing Plan prepared by the City was received by the Housing &
Redevelopment Authority.
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The mmibers shared concern about construction on the pond parcel as not
consistent with the Housing & Redevelopment a9reement. The Housing &
Redevelopment Authority agreed to support any decisions the City Council
makes on these properties.
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The Housing & Redevelopnent Authority Brochure was received by the Housin9 �
Redevelopnent Authority.
Chairperson Comot�ers adjou�ned the Septe�nbez 3H, 1985 Housing & Redevelopment
Authority meetinq at 11:0H p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
/ �� � �_
r3 Flora
� ' Acting Secretary
CpLL TO ORDER:
CITY OF FRIDLEY
HUMAN RESOURCES COh�tISSION
MEETING
OCTOBER 3, 1985
Chairperson Minton called the October 3, 1985, Human i�sources Comnission meeting
to order at 7:34 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Me�bers Present:
Members Absent
Others Present:
Bob Minton, Sue Sherek, 5teve Billings, Peter Pierce
Marold Belgum
Bill Hunt, Assistant to the City of Manager
Peter Treuenfels, 5248 Horizon Dr.
WELCOME TO NEW MEMBER, PETER PIERCE:
Mr. Minton introduced Mr. Pierce to the Commission members and welco�ed him tn
the Comnission. He asked Mr, Pierce to tell a little about himself,
Mr. Pierce stated that he has lived in Fridley for 2; years. He previously lived
in Columbia Heights. He stated he was a salesman for Tombstone Pizza. In the City
of Fridley, he coaches and directs FYSA basketball,
APPROVAL OF AUGUST 1, 1985, HUMAN RE50URCE5 COhN1I55I0W MINU7ES:
MOTIDN BY MR. BILLZNGS, SECQNDED BY MS. 5HEREK, TO APPROVE THE AUGU5T 2, 1985,
HUI}AN RESDURCES COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN,
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON MINTON DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANZMOUSLY.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
MOTION 8Y MS. SHEREK� SECONDED BY MR. BILLINGS� TO APPROVE THE RGENDA WITN THE
CHANGE THAT ITEM 1-D� CONSIDERAPION OF AO-FAULT GRIEVANCE CON.MITTEE� BE MO'�ED TO
ITEM S-A.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON MIN20N DECLARED THB 190TZON CRRRZED
UNANIMOUSLY.
1. OLD Bl15INE5S:
a. Consideration of No-Fault Grievance Comnittee
�4r. Minton stated the Commission had received a copy of the Minnesota
Department of Human Rights "Worksharing Agreement" along with a cover
HUf1AN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETIN6, OCTOBER 3, 1985 PAGE 2
letter high7fghtin9 the agreement. He stated the Minnesota Deaartment of
Human Rights (MHRD) wants human rights comnissions to voluntarily help
the MHRD, As stated in tfie cover letter, "tfie purpose of the 'worksharing
agreement`is to improve both the efficiency and effectiveness of tfie locaT
commissions and MHRD. Moreover, we wish to enhance the consistency, con-
tinuity and professionalism amonq the local commissions, as a direct result
of our new and improved no-fault grievance processing training",
Mr. Minton stated tha local commissions are being asked to serve as a neutral
party in cases of alledged discrimination, attend training sessions to
receive certification in no-fault grievance processing, maintain f�ur
comnissioners wfio are certified in no-fault grievance processing, provide
educational enrichment programming for local commfssfon and comnunity, etc.
Mr. Minton stated that since Mr. Treuenfels was a former member of the
Numan Resources Commission and was active in the no-fault grievance process,
he had invited Mr. Treuenfe7s to the meeting to review this "worksharing
agreement" and to give his input.
Mr. Treuenfels stated the no-fault grievance procedure has gone through
a number of different phases since he has been involved with it.
Mr. Treuenfels,stated that a long time ago 6efore fie was a Human Resources
Commission member, there was an aqreement similar to tfiis, only Tengthier,
which was called a Memorandum of Agreement. Many cortmiission meetinqs and
comnissioners' time was taken up in considering tfiis Memorandum of Agreement.
Then, with tfie cfiange in administration, it was decided to make thinqs a
lot more informal. There was no contract, no Memorandum of Aqreement, and
the commissioners were encouraged to establish no-fault qrievance canmittees.
Training sessions were offered a number of times during the year at different
locations. It was held in Fridley twice. The training was very informative
At that time, they were encouraged to contact citv councils to get approval
for the formation of no-fau7t grievance cormittees, Tfie Fridley City
Council formally passed a motion approving the establishment of a no-fault
grievance cormittee.
Mr. Treuenfels stated there was then another cF�ange, and it was decided that
the man who had conducted the no-fault grievance training sessions should be
shifted to another position. He stated he did not know what tfie status was
at this time relative to training sessions. Training was mentioned in the
current contract.
Mr, Treuenfels stated the pendulum has not-r swung again with a more formal
type of agreement, On page 2 of the "worksharing agreement", 3-A, it
stated: "Only certified comnission�rs will be active in the no-fault
grievance process." He stated that if they referred only to cormissioners,
it would mean no longer involving people in the comnunity wFio are not
comnission merttbers but who would be interested in being on tfie no-fault
grievance committee,
HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 3 1985 PAGE 3
Ms. Sherek stated that if "cormiissioners" referred only to Human Resources
Commissioners, this cortmission was too small to expect to serve, especially
if the MHRD intended to flow cases to the Comnission as quicklv as they
had done this Qast summer,
Mr. Minton stated he had hoped Mr. William Davis from the MHRD would be
able to attend this meeting so some of these questions could have been
answered.
Mr. Minton stated that if the Cormiissioners were agreeable� he would con-
tact Mr. Davis to tell him the Corrmission was favorably inclined toward
the "worksharing agreement", but he would like Mr. Davis to define the
word "corrwnissioners" as there was some confusion as to whether the
"commissioners" would be those members of tfie no-fault grievance committee,
not necessarily Human Resources Comnission members, or if it �ias just limited
to human rights canmissioners. He would tell Mr. Davis that people previouslv
trained should also be available to do this k{nd of thing. If those two
things were agreeable with Mr. Davis, this could then be sent on to the
Planning Commission and City Council.
The Commissioners stated they would agree with that.
MOTION BY MR. BILLING5, SECONDED EY M5. SHEREK, TO AUTHORIZE THE HUMAN
RESOURCES COMMISSSON CHAIRPERSON TO CONTACT WiLLIRM DAVZS� MNRD� TO MAKE
THE NECE5SARY CHANGES ZN THE °WORKSNARSNG AGREEMENT"BETW£EN THE NUMAN
RESOURCES COMMISSION AND THE MXRD AND FORWARD IT ON TO THE PLANNZNG
COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
Ms, Sherek stated she definitely wanted it clarified what is meant by
"commissioner", She would not want this agreement going on to the Citv
Council if only comnission members would be involved.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIXPERSDN MINTON DECLARED THE MOTION
CRRRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
b Consideration of the use of data involving people in the City of Fridley:
Policy Cnnsiderations
Mr. Minton stated the only issue he would be concerned about was excluding
the Dept, of Public Safety from the policy being considered by the Comnission,
He had no question concerning tfie data that was mandated or controlled by
law, but he would 6e concerned about other soecific information, such as
suspect information, that is collected that is not mandated or controlled
by law.
Ms. Sherek stated she agreed with Mr. Minton. She stated vhen they origi-
nally formulated this policy, they kind of excluded the Police Department.
The info rntation the Police Department collects on suspects would be a
definite concern, It did not particularly bother her that the Police Depart-
ment had this information, but what disturbed her was tf�e fact that this
information was public record and some one else could get that infottnation,
HU�4AN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETIN6, OCTOBER 3� 1985 PAGE 4
Mr. Pierce stated he agreed with Mr. Minton and Ms. Sherek. He stated
he had read tfie drafted policy statement over several times, and he did
not see why it would bother the Police Department to be included in this
policy because all the Commission is really recomanending is for the
departments to use some discretion in gathering information.
Ms. Sherek stated that if the Police Department is accumulating informa-
tion which is not mandated by State Statutes but has the potential of
becoming available to the public, then the Police Department should also
fall within the provisions of this policy.
Mr. Billings questioned why they should limit the Police Department to
only inforniation that is mandated, He did not think the Police Department
should put any data on the data bases without bringing it first to the
internal poiicy review board. If the Police Department 6ecomes in the
habit of putting on information because it is mandated by law; the�efoT•e,
they do not go to the internal policy review board, it woirid be very easy
for them to inadvertently start keeping records that are not mandated
because psychologicatly they do not have to go before the internal po7icy
review board because they are special.
Mr. Pierce stated he would agree wit� Mr. Billings. By making it mandatory
for all the departments to go to the internal policy review board, it will
also give the review board a clearer picture of wfiat data is going on the
system, both mandated and unmandated.
Ms. Sherek stated a rather specific suggestion that could be made as far
as suspect information was that the kind of comnentary data that is put into
the police reports not ever be entered into the c�mputer system--leave it
on the paper records, but don't put ii on the system.
Mr. Biilings suggested that the Commission consider putting in a time frame
for how often the internal policy review board would review the data bases,
so the review board would be familiar with the elements currently in the
data bases.
Ms. Sherek stated the internal policy review board certainly should be
looking at the system periodically.
following the discussion, the Commissioners amended the policy consideration
as follows:
"The Human Resources Commission makes the following recorrrnendations
regarding the municipal unified data base, the Department of Pub7ic
Safety data base, and any other data bases that may be under the
control of the City of Fridley:
A. That the Cfty establish an internal policy review board
consisting of the C1ty Manager and department fieads or
their representatives.
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HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 3, 1985 PAGE 5
8. That the functions of tfie policy review 6oard include:
(1) To develop criteria for additions to, or retention of,
data elements in the data bases. The criteria should
consider not only the potential effect of new data
accumulated, but its potential impact when combined
with other data elements already in tf�e data base. On
a scheduled, periodic basis, all the elements in the
data bases should be reviewed in light of tfie established
criteria.
(2) To require a clear statement of purpose from those
requesting the addition of elements to the data bases.
(3} To develop a clear and consistent policy for releasing
information requested. Consideration should be given to
vesting the responsibility of addressing requests for
information in a central location within the City,
(4) To segregate potentially sensitive data on single purpose
data bases, micro-computers, or other records."
MOTION BY MR, BZLLINGS, SECONDED BY MS. SHEREK, TO APPROVE TXE POLICY
CONSIDERATION AS AMENDED ABOVE AND PASS IT ON TO TXE' PLANNING COMMISSION
AND CZTY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL,
UPON R VOSCE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON MINTON DECLARED TNE
MQTZON CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
c. Consideration of matters relating to the ethnic background of Fridle,y
residents
MOPZON BY MS. SHEREK.� SECONDED BY AIIt, BZLLZNGS� TD CONTINUE THIS ITEM
UNTZL THE NEXT MEETZNG.
UPON A VDICE VOTE,ALZ VOTING AYE, CXAIRPERSON MINTON DECLARED 2HF
MOTION CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY.
d. Consideration of human service needs in Fridley
Mr. Hunt stated he would again contact the County of Anoka to see if he
could get someone from the County who could come to tfie next comnission
meeting to talk about human service needs in Fridley,
e. Consideration of recorrmendations for appointment to the Anoka County
Transportation Advisory Canmittee
Mr. Hunt stated that as discussed at the last meeting, tF►ere was now a
vacancy on this committee, and someone is needed from Commissioner
Paul McCarron's district to fill this vacancy. The Community Health &
HUPIAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETIMG, OCTOBER 3, 1985 PAr,E 6
Social Services Department is requesting that the Human Resources
Commission recortmend severa7 names for consideration to this committee,
and Commissioner McCarron will then choose a representative fran thnse
names.
Mr. Minton stated he would talk to a few peoole and possibly bring to
the next meeting some names of people who might he interested in serving
on this committee,
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTIDN BY MS. SHEREK� SECONDED BY MR, PSERCE� TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. UPON A VO*rE
VOTE, ALL YOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON MZNTON DECZARED TNE OCT. 3� I9B5� HUMAN RESOURCES
CDI�FIISSIDN MEETING ADJOURNED AS 9:28 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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(Y�<� .�c ��s.�
Lynqe a a
Recording Secretary
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MEMORANDUM
City of Fridley
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fTtOM: BILL liJNf, SZ7�F'F PER.'�1 Zp HU1�RN RESQJACFS
QK".FIISS IDN
9JBJEQ': PROFaSm R7LICY RF�qRDING �E MllNIQHqI, UNIFIED
IiiTA BASE
I]T�'I'E. OCInBfR 16, 1985
Attad�ed you will firr3 an extract fran the H�nnan Resources
mmrission meeting of October 3, 1985. Please note the
recznr�ended policy statement begiruung at the bottan of page
4.
Since this is a very sensitive matter, the Hiunan Resoucces
Wrrnissirn vould welcnme your cvnr;ierrts before the proposal
ia fon+arded to the City Q�uncil and� if �ssihle, before it
is mnsidered bf the planning Comrnission at their October
23, 1985 meeting.
I would be happ� to receive any comments, suggestions,
reczrr::end3tions, criticisns, etc. which you might have and
foc�raLd then to the H�r,�an Resouraes Ccamnissim.
You mic�t want
Cbrr, i ssi on f ar
this matter.
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to mnsult the minutes of the Hunan Resources
August 1, 1985, for further discussion of
CITY OF FRIDLEY
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
MEETING
OCTOBER 7, 1985
CALL TO ORDER:
Vice-Chairperson Schreiner called the October 7, 1985, Parks & Recreation Commission
meeting to order at 7:35 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Menbers Present: Mary Schreiner, Dick Young, Dan Allen, 5teve Nelson
Members Absent : Dave Kondrick
Others Present: Char7es Boudreau, Parks & Recreation Director
Dodi Iverson, 6440 Squire Dr. N.E.
Darri Becchette, 6361 Arthur St. N.E.
Lee Switzer, 5870 7th St. N.E,
Mary Loschy, 1399 66th Ave. N,E.
Kathleen Kemper, 7857 Alden Way N,E, (Fridlev League of Women Voters)
Pat Brennan, 6716 7th St. N.E. (Fridley League of Women Voters)
APPROVAL OF AUGUST 5, 1985, 1985, PARKS 6 RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY AfR. YOUNG, SECONDED BY MR. ALI,EN, TO APPROVE TXE AUG. 5� 1985� PARXS &
RECREATION COMMSSSZON MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE� VYCE-CHRZ72PERSON SCNREINER DECLARED THE MOTION
CRRRIED UNANSMOUSLY.
APAROVAL OF AGENDA:
MOTION BY MR. ALLEN� SECONDED BY MR. YOUNG� TO APPROVE THE AGENDA WITH THE CHANGE
THAT ITEM 2-b, PLAY EQUIPMENT - HAYES SCHOOL, BE MOVED TO ZTEM 1,
UPON A VOICE vOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIXPERSON SCHREINER DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. PLAY EQUIPMENT - HAYES SCHOOL:
Ms. Doty Iverson stated the Hayes PTA Executive Board was interested in pursuing
a cooperative venture with the City to obtain playground equipment for the
School site which has no equipment at this time.
Dr. Lee Switzer stated he would like to have a little backgro�and with respect
to playground equipment at Stevenson, Riverwood, and Rice Creek School sites.
Did the City have a part in placing that equipment?
Dr. Boudreau stated that with the demise of Rice Creek School, the City had to
remove that piayground equipment, but once equipment is installed in concrete,
' it is very difficult to salvage, The equipment that was salvaged was now in
place at Creek Ridge Park across the street from wfiere it used to be.
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PARKS 6 RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 7, 1985 PAGE 2
Dr. Boudreau stated that when Ray Habel became principal at Stevenson School,
he asked if the City would be interested in a cooperative effort to put play-
ground equipment along with the hockey rink that is down by the ball diamonds.
The City said, yes, they would be happy to, because the City was in the business
of serving children, the schools were in the business of serving children, and
schools make a nice center for playground equipment. He stated the City did
share with Stevenson in installing playground equipment.
Dr. Boudreau stated he was not familier with Riverwood 5chool. He did know
that the City had some playground equipment at the far east end of Gardena
School, but that now belonged to Faith Academy.
Dr. Boudreau stated that at Rice Creek, the City has utilized and maintained the
area outside the school building--the ball diamond, ice rink, and tennis court,
through an agreement with the school district.
Dr. Boudreau stated he would endorse a cooperative effort wholeheartedly. He
felt the equipment would be used. He felt playground equipment at an elementary
school probably gets used more than equipment stuck in a park, He stated he
would certair�3y like School District 14's participation, He has talked to
Ms. Iverson, and she has stated the PTA migRt be able to partfcip�te in funding.
He stated he would estimate around $6,000 for playground equipment. Perhaps
a three-way arrangement could be made with tfie PTA, School Dist. 14, and the
City,
Ms. Schreiner asked if there would be any problem during the school year of
the school using the playground equipment during the day when younqer neighbor-
hood cfiildren would also want to use the equipment.
Dr. Switzer stated they would feel that since the equipment is on the school
site that during the hours children are required to be in school, the equipment
would be for the exclusive use of the school. He stated maybe that was not a
proper frame of mind, but he did not know how it could be any other way.
Dr. Boudreau stated that in his 9+ years as Parks & Recreation Director for
the City of Fridley, he has never heard of a problem between a neighborhood and
a school regarding playground equipment on school property,
Mr. Young stated that about 1-2 weeks ago on Channel 11 news, there was a
feature on a school in either Faribault or Owatonna that had a non-traditional
playground. There was an architect who went to the school and talked to the
children about what they would like in tfie playground. The playground that was
built was not a traditional-type of playground with slides, swings, teeter-
iotter, etc. The architect drew up the plans for the playground, and it was
built on a Saturday by parents of the school children. The playground equipment
was very unique and was built totally of wood.
Mr. Young stated t6at since winter was aoproaching and a playground was not
feasible yet for this year, the PTA and School District might want to get more
information about this playground equipment.
PARKS & RECREATIOW COMh1IS5I0N MEE7ING, OCTOBER 1,1985 PAGE 3
Or. B�udreau asked what kind of precedent might be sei.
Mr. Young stated they might be setting a precedent, but the playground equipment
that goes into a typical park is paid for by the citizens. This would involve
caoperative payments from the City, the PTA, and the Scfiool District, if tF�e
schoo] district is going to participate.
Ms. Iverson stated t[iey did not know ip the School District was aoing to parti-
cipate. The School District has endorsed tfie PTA to explore the issue, but they
have not committed any monies, She stated tf�e PTA would be able to come up
with some funding.
Dr, Boudreau stated he felt they needed the School District's participation in
one way or another. He stated the Scf�ool District's liability is going to be
at stake, they wil7 have an investment in what is tf�ere, and tfiey will have
the largest user of the equipment. He would suggest a tfiree-way cooperative
effort. Estimating $6,000, that would be $2,000 in cash from each, The City
would be also contributing $2,000 plus the man hours to install and maintain
the equipment which could be around $3,000 or more.
MDTZON BY�MR. YDUNG, SECONDED BY MR, ALLEN, TO ACCEPT THE COPY OF TXE COMMUNI-
CATION DATED SEPT. IB� 1985� FROM JOYCE SWANSON� NAYES PTA PRESIDENT� TO THE
HAYES P2A E'XECUTZVE BOARD.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTIIJG AYE� ?ICE-CHALp,pERSON SCHREINER DECLARED THE
MOTION CAHKIED UNANIMOUSLY.
MOTION BY MR, YOUNG, SECONDED BY MR, ALLEN, TO AUTHORIZE CITY STRFF TO PURSUE
WORKING WITH THE HAYES PTA EXECUTNE BOARD AND SCHOOL DISTRICT 14 REGARDZNG
TNE FEASIBZLITY OF A COOPERATIVE VENTURE FOR PLAYGROUND EQUIpMENT AT THE HAYES
ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SITE--THE CITY .� CONTRIBUTE S2,000 ZN CASH pLUS APPROXIMA2ELY
$I,000 IN MAN HDURS.
UpON A VOICE VOTE� ALL yO�ZNG AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON SCHREINER DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANSMOUSLY,
Dr. Switzer stated tfiey certainty appreciated the City's cooperation. He
stated the Hayes PTA Board would probably be approachinq the School District
to see if the School District wou7d contribute some financial help,
2. DIRECTOR'S REPORT:
a. Islands of Peace
Dr. Boudreau stated that as the Commission members were probably aware,
Ed Wilmes had passed away of a heart attack. He stated Anoka County was
continuing the programming at Istands of Peace. The facility is staffed,
it is being programmed and is being utilized, Tfie plans are to make
Islands of Peace an integral part of the Mississippi Riverfront Park the
County is developing. He felt the County was doing a good job, and he
would certainly encourage the County's involvement in the park,
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSIOtJ �EETING, OLTOBER 1, 1985 PAGE 4
b. Falt Festival, Springbrook Nature Center
Dr. Boudreau stated that despi.te 6ad weather conditions, it was a success-
ful weekend, not as successful as they had hoped and planned for, but it
was a very rainy and cold weekend. A6out 600 people attended the two-day
festival. A lot of activities had been planned and some of them were moved
inside. The Volks Walk was held despite the rain both Saturday and Sunday.
The walk was successful, and the people are looking forward to returning
because they were very happy witfi the course that was laid out for them.
Dr. Boudreau stated they are already making plans for
festival. Programning will continue. He encouraged
Comnissioners to attend the next activity which will
NEIJ BUSINE55:
Locke Park Entrance and Improvement
next year`s fall
the Parks & Recrea±',on
be on Halloween night.
Dr. Boudreau stated it was proposed some time ago that the County was going
to come in and put a road system along Columbia Arena to Locke Park and
there would be an additional parking lot. This would open Locke Park up
for greater use. The County is now in a position to do that; however, City
code requires curb and gutters. Since it is not tfie County's policy to
place curbs and gutters within their parkways and parking lots, they are
willing to install curbs and gutters if the City of Fridley witl consider
providing $10,000 towards the total cost of the curbs and gutters.
Dr. Boudreau stated the City is rrilling to contribute $10,D00, but he wanted
to bring this to the Commission's attention so they were aware of it. He
thought curbs and gutters would make a much nicer looking road and parking
lot, He would encourage the Commission to urge the City Council to spend
the $10,000.
MOTZON BY MR. ALLEN� SECONDED BY MR. NELSON� TO REQUEST TNE CZTY COUNCIL
TO CONSIDER PROVIDING SZ��000 OUT OF PRRK FUNDS FOR CURBS AND GUTTERS
FOR THE ENSRA*10E AND PARKING FACILITIES IN Z,OCKE PAIiX.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE� YZCE-CffA2RPERSON SCfIREINER DECLARED
THE MOTZON CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ice Locations 1985-86
Dr. Boudreau stated the Coromi� sion [�ad a li.st of the proposed ice areas
and hockey rink locations far 1985-86. He stated one addition was Plymouth
Square Park as a general rink because of a request by a councilman in the
area. If the Commission wisfied to reduce the general workload for the
maintenance staff, he would recommend tfiey take out tFie general rink at
Locke Park. There are two hockey ri�ks tf�ere, and f�e did not think the
general rink has been used very mucfi. If there are complaints, they can
put the ice down.
PARKS & RECREA7ION COMMISSION MEE7ING, OCTOBER 7, 1985 PAGE 5
MOTZON BY MR. YOUNG, SECONDED BY MR. ALLEN, TO RECEIVE STAFF'S RECOMMF.NDA-
TION FOR ICE ARfiAS/XOCKEY RZNX LOCATIONS FOR .2985-86-�W�III6A�ARE AS FOLLOWS:
ICE AREAS - GENERAL HOCXEy RZNKS
I, BRIARDALE I�. COMMONS 2)
2. CRAZG 2. FLANERY
3, CREEK RIDGE 3, HAYES ELEM. SCHOOL
4, FLANERY 4. LOCKE (2j - BROOMBALL
5, GLENCDE 5. MADSEN
6, XACKMANN 6, RUTH CIRCLE
7. HAYES ELEM. SCHOOL 7, STEVENSON ELEM. SCHOOL
8, JAY
9. LOGAN
10, MRDSEN
lI, MEADOWLANDS
12. RUTN CIRCLE
13, STEVENSON ELEM. SCNOOL
19. SUMMIT SQUARE
15, SYLVAN HILLS (2}
16, PLYMOUTX
UPON A VOICE VpTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE� VZCE -CHAIRPERSON SCXRESNER DECLARED
TXE MOTION CARRIED UNANLNOUSLY.
c. Northeast Chamber Orchestra Request
MOTZON BY MR. YOUNG, SECONDED BY MR. ALLEN, TO RECEIVE TNE COMMUNICATION
DATED SEPT. 17� Z985, FROM THE NORTXEAST CHAMBER ORCNESTRA.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE, VICE-CXAIRPERSON SCNREINER DECLARED
TNE MOTION CARRZED UNANIMOUSL?'.
Dr. Boudreau stated that on Nov, 10, the Northeast Chamber Orchestra will
play a concert at Brookdale Center as part of the annual "Fridley Days".
The Parks & Fecreation Commission has agreed to pay the Northeast Chamber
Orchestra $150/concert for a maximum of five concerts this year with the
stipulation that these concerts be played in Fridley. The concert at
Brookdale wili not be in Fridley but Kill be on behalf of Fridley. 7he
Northeast Chamber Orchestra was askinq the Corrmission to waive the stipu-
lation and allow tf�em to count Brookdale as one of the five concerts for
which they will be paid.
Mr. Young stated that in view of the fact that this was a day 4rhen the
comnunity of Fridley was recognized by a lot of other people, having the
Northeast Chamber Orchestra perform at Brookdale was a good way to show
some of tfie things that are going on in this comnunity, other t[�an
businesses and civic groups.
MOTION BY MR. YOUNG.� SECONDED BY MR. ALLEN� 21� WAIVE TNE STZPULATZON
AND TO ALLOW THE NOl2THEAST CXAMBER ORCNESTRA TO PLRY A CONCERT AT BROOKDALE
CENTER ON NOV. 10� 1985, AS PART OF THE ANNUAL "FRIDLEY DRYS".
PARKS E RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 7, 1985 PAGE 6
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON SCHREZNER DECLARF.D
THF. MOPION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3. OLD BUSINE55:
a. Meadowlands Development
Dr, Boudreau stated that about a couple of montFu ago, the Commission had
a number of residents from Meadowlands Park attend their meeting as a result
of the Planning Corunission meeting of July 17th where it was suggested that
tf�ere be a plan for improvement for Meadowlands Park, On that plan, there
was the suggestion that the City selt some lots, and there were people at
the Planning Commission meeting very much in opposition to selling any park
land at any time for development.
Dr. Soudreau stated the Parks & Recreation Commisston was put in the position
of being the cart before the horse. No one really knew how this got to the
Planning Commission before coming to the Parks & Recreation Commission, so
the Planning Comnission recommended it go 6ack to the Parks U Recreation
Cormission. Residents from around Meadowlands Park attended that meet9ng.
It was agreed that he would sit down with a committee of 5-6 residents
immediately surrounding the park area and discuss with them what they would
like to fiave in the park. They have agreed to come back to the Commission
at the November meeting witfi a recommendation for tfie Meadowlands Park to
be forwarded on to the Planning Comnission and City Council,
Dr. Boudreau stated tfiat in the meeting with the residents, their basic
feeling was they did not wish to sell any lots on tfie park oroperty. Their
big concern right now is t�ow can tfiey control tfie surface water and ground
water in the park and what will 6appen after that water is controlled?
Before they get into planning the whole area, they just want the water
problem solved.
Dr. 8oudreau stated the City has come up with a plan for a pond that is
not structured as a holding pond per se, but sonething that would be a part
of the park in a meaningful way with a walkway system around it and maybe
a uridge across it. It was the concensus of those in attendance at the
brief committee meeting that this might be a starting point. If that pond
was accomplished, then they can see what is going to happen as far as the
water� and then they can decide wf�at to do witf� tfie rest of tf�e park.
Dr. Boudreau stated the pond cost for e�ccavatton, seeding and storm sewer
was about $97,000. The tratl and bridge costs were about $39,000. Total
cost of pond and trail and bridge was about $136,298. The present picnic
and playground areas would remain intact during tfiis time witfi some minor
renovation,
Mr. Young stated that since the water in this area 6as been draining into
Rice Creek and Rice Creek is part of the Ri:ce Creek Watershed District, was
there any possi6ility for funding for park improvement fror� the Rice Creek
Watershed District whicfi has taxing powers?
PARKS & RECREATIOPa COMMIS�ION MEETING, OCTOBER 7; 1985 PAGE 7
Dr. Boudreau stated he did not know, but it was a good tfiought and was
sometfiing wortfi pursuing.
The Comnissioners felt the pond to help soive the water problem before
doing anything else with the property was a very good idea.
fir. Allen stated it se�ned like a smart approach, plus tfiis Wo�ld give
the residents around the park an opportunity to think about what they want
in the park.
Ms. Pat Brennan stated she and Ms, Kemper were at the meetina as part of
the action arm of the League of Women Voters. They do studies, take a
concensus, and tfien maintain a position on various issues at the local,
state, and national leveis. Their locai position on narks dictated that
they be at this meeting. She stated they have drafted a statement, and
she was glad that this statement, in essence, was a renetition of what she
felt was the concensus of the Parks & Recreation Comnission. She read the
following statement:
"The Fridley League of Women Voters is here tonight because we
have a position based on our membership concensus which supports
a strong neighborhood park systeM in Fridley. It is the oresence
of this multi-use recreational area that makes Fridlev a communitv
of quality. We believe that the policy of setting aside land for
exclusive use as park tand is a good one.
"We were t6erefore concerned wf�n we heard that this policy seemed
to be undergoinq a change. We hope that the recent proposal to sell
part of Meadowlands Park does not represent the thin edqe of a wedqe
which will result in our fine park system eroding,
- "We believe that the residents of Fridley have expressed themselves
quite clearly on this issue in the past as well as in the more recent
hearing on Ju1y l7, 1985, regarding Meadowlands Park.
"While we appreciate the need of 9overnment to strive for cost-
effective measures regarding city property maintenance, it seems to
us in tfie League of Women Voters tfiat seTling parks to improve them
borders on the counter-productive, not to mention tfie r;diculous.
"While the problems that have afflicted Meadowlands Park are primarily
engineering problems that require some technical solutions, we share
the concern expressed by iocai residents that so iittle citizen inout
preceded the public hearing process on July 17. We are glad that
residents testifying on the issue were so universat in rejecting the
option to se71 this land.
"The Fridley League of Women Voters wishes to go on record in opposi-
tion to selling park land to meet park expenses. We would further
encourage city staff to adhere more faitf�fully to tfie citizen cortmission
process and to not breach that always delicate balance between
administration and the electorate.
PARKS & RECREATION CONMIISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 7, 1985 PpGE 8
"With our land area reaching a critical saturation point, we
realize tfiat some important decisions must 6e made to ensure the
best use of existing open space,
"We do beg you, finwever, to consider that cost effectiveness, if
applied across tfie board, can be destructive and it certainly has
its limitations."
MOTION BY MR, ALLEN� SECONDED BY MR. YOUNG� TO RECENE THE STATEMENT
REPRESENTING THE CONCENSUS OF THE FRIDLEY LE'AGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS REGARDING
DEVEIAPMENT OF MEADOWLANDS PARK. �
UPON A VOSCS VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE� VLCE-CHAZRPERSON SCNREZNER DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANSMOUSLY.
Ms. Kemper stated tfie League felt it was such an important issue that
they felt they should make an official statement at the Parks & Recreation
Cormission meeting.
Ms. Schreiner stated tfie Cominission really appreciated tF�is statement, She
thanked Ms. Kemper and Ms. Brennan for coming to the meeting.
b, Springbrook Nature Center Development
Or, Boudreau stated the Comnissioners had a memo from Siah St. Clair
addressed to Mark Burch regarding the development plan for tfie southwest
corner of Springbrook Nature Center.
Dr. Boudreau stated that about a year ago, Siah St. Clair came before the
Corrrnission with a plan for moving some fill into that area to build a dike
supposedly on tRe south side to block the �ndustrial development from the
' park, The deal Mr, St. Clair had gotten approval for fran the Soringbrook
Nature Center Foundation and the Commission f�as fallen tfirough,
Dr. Boudreau stated the City would like to 6uild a 6erm barrier on the
south property which eventually would come around on the west property and
build a dike to hold the water. They see it Zs a positive to the develop-
ment of the nature center. They also see it as a great deterrent to noise
and a buffer to the south for whatever wi11 be developed along there.
Dr. Boudreau stated they now have an agreement with another contractor,
Turner Exca�±ating Co „ to haul about 20,000 cu, yds. of mixed fill, dark
and organic, along with some concrete de6ris whicf� will be buried. Turner
Excavating will rough grade material into a berm as directed by the City.
All concrete and debris will be covered with a 2 ft, minimum of fill.
There will be no charge for dumping the fill to either Turner Excavating
or the City. Anticipated delivery of all fill to be before Jan. 1, 1986.
Turner Excavating agrees to seed and fill the area upon completion of
grading and fill.
Dr. 8oudreau stated Mr, St. Clair has talked to the Springbrook Nature
Center Foundation, and they are in agreement with this plan.
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 7 1985 PA6E 9
MOTION BY MR, YOUNG� SECONDED BY MR. NELSON� TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSAL FOR
SPRZNGBROOK NATURE CENTER DEVELOPMENT AS SUBMITTED 9Y TURNER EXCRVATING C0.
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VSCE-CFTAIRPERSON SCHREZNER DECLARED THE
MOTZON CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY.
4. OTHER BUSINESS:
a. Meeting Date Change
Dr. Boudreau stated that since both he and Mr. Kirk would not be able to
attend the Movember meeting, fie would suggest the Commission cancel the
November meeting and meet as scheduled on Dec. 2. Tfie Meadowlands Park
comnittee report could be submitted to the Cor.mission at the December meeting.
The Corarnissioners concurred with Dr. Boudreau's suggestion.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MR. RLLEN� SECONDED BY MR. NELSON� TO RDJOURN TNE MEETING. UPON R VOICE
VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CNAZRPERSON SCXREINER DECLARED TXE OCTOBER 7� I9B5�
PAF2KS 6 RECREATIDN COMMZSSION MEETING AATOURVED AT 9:30 P.M.
Resp�ctfully subm' ted,
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ynn Say a
Recording Secretary
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING
October 7, 1985
League of Women Voters
Testimony on Park Policy, Meadowlands Park Issue
The Fridley League of Women Voters is here tonight because we have a
position based on our member consensus supporting a strong neighborhood park
system in Fridley. It is the presence of this multi-use recreational area
that makes Fridley a corrmunity of quality. We believe that the policy of
setting aside land for exclusive use as park land is a good one.
We were therefore concerned when we heard that this policy seemed to
be undergoing a change. We hope that the recent proposal to sell part of
Meadowlands Park does not represent the thin edge of a wedge which will
result in our fine park system eroding.
We believe that the residents of Fridley have expressed themselves
quite clearly on this issue in the part as well as in the more recent hearing
July 17 regarding Meadowlands.
While we appreciate the need of government to strive for cost-effective
measures regardin9 city property maintenance, it seems to us that selling parks
to improve them is counterproductive, not to say ridiculous.
While the problems that have afflicted Meadowlands are primarily engi-
neering problems that require some technical solutions, we share the concern
expressed by local residents that so little citizen input preceeded the
public process July 17. We are glad that residents testifying on the issue
were so universal in rejecting the option to sell this land.
The fridley League of Women Voters wishes to go on record in opposi-
tion to selling park land to meet park expenses. We would further encourage
city staff to adhere more faithfully to the citizen commission process and
to not breach that always delicate balance between administration and the
electorate.
With our land area reaching a critical saturation point, we realize
that some important decision must be made to ensure the best use of existing
open space.
We do beg you to consider tfiat cost-effectiveness, if applied across
the board, can be destructive and certainly has its limitations.
Pat Bren�en
Active Chair, FLWV
CITY OF FRIDLEY
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COhP1IS5I0N
MEETING
OCTOBER 8, 1985
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Oquist called the October 8, 1985, Comnunity Development Comnission
meeting to order at 7:42 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: LeRoy Oquist, A1 Gabel, Gene Rezac, Ken Vos
Others Present: Robert Barnette, City Council, lst Ward
Mark Burch, Asst. Public Works Director
APPROVAL OF SEPTEMBER 10, 1985, C0�4UNITY DEVELOPMENT COM�4ISSION MINUTES:
MO7ION by Mr. Gabel, seconded by Dr. Vos, to approve the September 10, 1985,
Community Development Commission minutes as written.
Mr. Burch noted that Louis Schmidt had submitted his resignation from the
commission.
Mr, Burch also noted that the agenda contained information regarding accessory
apartments.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL UOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. DISCUSSION OF THE GOLF COURSE-SPRINGBROOK NATURE CENTER
Chairperson Oquist indicated that 14r. Barnette had brought the subject of
a golf course adjacent to the nature center to the City Council. At that
time, Mayor F1ee asked the cortmission to take a look at the issue and see if
this would be feasible.
Mr. Barnette provided the comnission members with some background information
on the nature center and past efforts to bring a golf course to Fridley. At
this time, a golf course is being proposed on the land adjacent to the nature
center. Mr. Barnette feels that a golf course would be good for the community
and could enhance the nature center. He also indicated that if nothing further
happens the committee obtaining signatures on a petition would continue with
their efforts and the issue would come to a vote.
Mr. Barnette estimated construction costs to be $1,200,000. Members were
given copies of statistical information from numerous municipa] golf courses
in the area notin9 that 15 of the 17 have made money. In addition to revenues
earned from golf, the area could also be used in winter for cross country
skiing making the course and nature center usable year-round.
Chairperson Oquist questioned whether the area was saturated with golf courses.
COMMUNITY DEYELOPMENT COMMISSION MEETING OCTOBER 8, 1985 PAGE 2
Mr. Barnette stated that in a study this area was found to be most lacking.
He recommended a regulation 18-hole course and added that a good course could
6e constructed on a minimum of 100 acres depending on the layout.
Mr. Barnette noted that the trees, ponds, drainage ditches are all assets to
a golf course and can be used constructively in the design of a course. He
also stated tfiat some iand is available west of the railroad tracks in Coon
Rapids.
�r. Vos asked which areas of the nature center were most used.
Mr. Barnette noted that the central and westerly areas of the center have the
most use. It may be possible to use the eastern edge of the nature center as
part of a golf course and not interfere with tiie nature center or its programs.
Mr. Burch indicated that he had talked to 5iah St. Clair, Naturalist, Springbrook
Nature Center. Mr. St. Clair had stated that a golf course around the nature
center would be good and would provide an additional buffer for the center.
Dr. Vos asked how much of the nature center could be used for a golf course
and still keep both parties satisfied.
Mr. Barnette indicated that this would need to be comprromised, should it be
necessary.
Chairperson Oquist noted that the HRA would also need to get involved for
land acquisition.
Mr. Burch indicated that the HRA has the power to create a district and can
declare an area as a redevelopment zone if the area is blighted.
Mr. Barnette noted that the soil in this area is 9enerally substandard and
generally not suited to building. It would be suited for a golf course because
a course does not require stable soil.
Chairperson Oquist asked about the status of the proposed trucking company.
Mr. Barnette indicated that the request from the trucking company had been
approved by the City Council and will now go to a public hearing. The
company would use approximately 30 acres of the land being looked at but
Mr. Barnette did not think this would create a problem. The company would
also provide revenues to the City. Mr. Barnette added that any profits made
from a golf course would go into the general fund to offset the costs of
ather projects.
Mr. Burch indicated that the area is part of a watershed district and it is
possible to get funds from the district for development of water control.
The commission members reviewed an aerial map showing acreages, land available,
location of nature center and existing businesses.
COMMU��ITY DEVELOPMENT COMt•1ISSIOPI MEETING, OCTOBER 8, 1985 PAGE 3
Mr. Oquist requested to know the availability of the land west of the raiT-
road tracks in Coon Rapids. He also requested that Mr. St. Clair attend a
meeting to discuss the concept, and that he would like to see if a course
could be developed with a minimal effect on the nature center.
Mr. Barnette indicated that he would contact a designer to see if he wculd
be willing to look at the maps and the site and give their opinion as to
whether they felt a golf course feasible.
Mr, Rezac indicated that the Chomonix Golf Course in Circle Pines has been
profitable as a 9-hole course. The critical part is the bonding that could
drain cash flow. Acquisition of land could be a problem. He added that an
advantage to this area is the quantity of raw land.
Mr. Gabel requested more information on land acquisition and the costs involved.
Mr. Barnette indicated that he did not know what land acquisition cost would
be. The land is held by a number of different owners. He noted that Mr. Inman
had done some studies which show that a golf course would work over a 20-year
period.
Mr. Burch indicated that he felt staff could fairly accurately determine the
acquisition costs and development costs for the cortmission.
Dr. Vos asked what possible employment this would Dring to the comnunity.
Mr. Barnette estimated employment of 5 or 6 full-time employees and 50-60
seasonal employees. This number could change if the area were open year
round.
Mr. Oquist requested to hear from Mr. St. Clair to see what his thoughts are
on the proposal, find out the opinion of a designer to see if there is
sufficient land to construct a good golf course and provide water control,
and see if the project is financially feasible. When the facts are obtained,
they should be presented to the City Council along with Mr. St. Clair's
presentation, and then have the City Council indicate whether they wish to
continue.
MOTION by Dr. Vos, seconded by Mr. Rezac, to continue the discussion of the
feasibility of a golf course in the City of Fridley.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTIOP�
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
MOTION by Dr. Vos, seconded by Mr. Gabel, that staff study the feasibility
of a golf course through a rough layout, receive input from Mr. St. Clair
as to what would be a reasonable amount of land to use from the nature center
if necessary, have staff provide an estimate of land costs and the area of
vacant land, obtain copies of the study by Sidney Inman on profitability,
and obtain an estimate from a designer of construction based on a cost per
acre; and that this information be provided to the comnission members for
discussion at the next meeting.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIN6 AYE, CHAIRPERSOW OQUIST DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
COh�tUNITY DEYELOPMENT COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 8, 1985 PAGE 4
OTHER BUSINESS
Chairperson Oquist indicated that the subject of reorganization of the
commission structure had been discussed at the Planning Comnission meeting.
The problem involved with the Community Development Commission performing
this task is that the members are not familiar enough with the structure tc
make recommendations. The Planning Comnission suggested developing a plan
to be used for the restructuring. This item was tabled until the next
meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Dr. Vos, seconded by Mr. Gabel, to adjourn the meeting.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON OQUIST DECLARED THE OCTOBER 8,
1985, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:08 P.M.
Respectfully su6mitted,
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avonn Cooper
Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY �
MEETING -
- - OCTOBER 10, 1985
TO ORDER:
Chairperson Comners called the October 10, 1985, Housing & Redevelopr�ent Authority
meeting to order at 7:43 p.m.
ROLL CALL: �
Mer�bers Present: Larry Commers, Elmars Prieditis, Duane Prairie
Members Absent: Carolyn Svendsen, Walter Rasmussen
Others Present: Nasim Qureshi, HRA Director
Rick Pribyl, Actinq City,Clerk
Bo6 Barnette, City�Counc�lman
Jim Robinson, Planning Coordinator
Dave Newman, City Attorney
Chris Wegemer, 5torer Cable
Keith Hennek, Storer Cable
Mark Davis, 620 Mendelssohn Ave.
Jim Benson, 620 Mendelssohn Ave.
APPROUAL OF SEPTEMBER 5 1985 SPECIAL HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES:
Mr. Prieditis stated that he was listed as absent, and a couple of motions were
made by him in the minutes, He stated he was sure that all the members of the
HW1 were present at the Sept. 5ti� meeting.
MO^_'ION BY MR. PRAIRIE, SECONDED BY MR. PRIEDITIS� TO APPROVE THE S�PT, 5, 2985,
SPECIAL HOUSING & REDEVEIAPMEN.T AUTHORITY MINUTES AS AMENDED TO REFLECT THAT
MR. PRIEDZTIS WRS PRESEN`_' AT TXE MEETING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAZRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE MOTZON CARRZED
UNANIMOUSLY.
APPROVAL OF SEPTEMBER 30, ]985, SPECIAL HOUSIftG & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY PiINUTES;
MOTION BY MR. PRIEDZTZS, SECONDED BY MR. PRAIRIE� TO APPROVE THE SEPT. 30, I985�
SPECIAL HOUSING 6 REDEVELOPMENT RUTXORITY MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTSNG AYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMEXS DECLARED THE MOTZON CARRSED
UNANIMOUSLY.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, OCTOBER 10, 1985 PAGE 2
1. PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PURCHASE AND RESALE BY THE HOUSING AND REDEUEL�PMENT
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MOTIDN BY MR. PRIEDITIS� SECONDED BY MR. PRAZRIF.� TO OPEN THE pUBLZC HEARING
�i7'fiF� PURCHASE AND RESALE BY THE HOUSING 6 REDEVEIAPMENT AUTHORITY OF ZATS
4 AND 7(EXCEPT THE SOUTHERLY 30 FEET TNEREOF)� BIACK 4� UNIVERSITY ZNDUSTRIAL
PRRK. `
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPF.RSON COMPtERS DECLARED TffF, PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN AT 7;45 P.M,
Mr. Qureshi stated that Mr. Paschke had come before tf�e HRA some time ago askinq
for assistance for soil correction for the buildtng he built on Main St. He
has finished that building and is now hoping to build on Lots 4 and 7. This
proposal is basically the same as the one for the Main St. lot. There wi1T be
assistance of $13,500 on Lot 4 and $13,500 on part of Lot 7. Mr. Paschke could
not be at the meeting, but Mr. Jim Benson was at the meeting representing
Mr. Paschke.
Mr. Commers asked if soil tests had been done.
Mr. Benson stated, yes, Mr. Paschke fiad performed soil tests all over the area.
Currently, it is estimated to cost $70,000 to correct the soil for those two
lots.
Mr. Cortmers asked the size of the buildings and the approximate market value
of the two.
Mr. Benson stated one building would be approx. 15,500 sq, ft., and the other
building would be approx. 18,500 sq. ft. Market value was $600-900,000.
There was no one else present at the meeting who wished to give testimony
regarding this item.
MO220N BY MR. PRIEDITIS� SECONDED BY MR. PRAIRIE, TO CLOSE TXE PUBLZC HEARING.
;UPON A VOICE VO2E, RLL VOTING AYE, CXAIRPERSON COMhfERS DECLARED THE P[IBLIC
HEARSNG CLOSED AT 7:55 P.M,
MOTION BY MR. PRAIRIE� SECONDED BY MR. PRIEDITIS� TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. HRR 13-29
MODZFYING THE TAX INCREMENT FZNANCING PLAN FOR TAX INCREMENT FZNANCZNG DISTRICT
NO. 3(NORTH ARER) WITHIN REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT NO� 2 TO INCLUDE SNFORMATION
ABOUT INCREASED PROJECT ACTIVITZES AND APPROVING AND AUTXORIZING SXE F.XECUTZON
OF A CONTRACT FOR PRIVATE DEVEIAPMENT WITH GEHALD PASCHKE.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, OCTOBER 10, 1985 PAGE 3
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARES THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY.
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` Mr. Comners stated that in terms of approvat of construction plans, in
; Article IV, Section 4,2, subparagraph (a7, it stated: "Such Construction
� Plans must be rejected in writing by the Authority witbitt 4 days pf submission
or sfiall 6e deemed to have been approved 6y the AutE�nrity.'�
Mr. Commers stated 6e fe]t four days was too short a period of time. They
should have a little more time to review those plans.
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Mr. Prieditis and Mr. Prairie agreed.
Mr. Qureshi stated Mr. Paschke's building pians were available if the HRA
would like to review them at this time.
The HRA reviewed the plans with Jim Robinson, City Planning Coordinator, and
�im Benson,
MOTION BY MR. PRIED727S� SECONDED BY MR. PRAIRIE, THAT TXE SENTENCE REGRRDING
A TIME FRAME FOR CONSTRUCTION PLANS IN ARTICLF. IV, SSCTION 4,2, S[1BPARAGRAPN (a)
BE AMENDED AS FOLLOWS: "SUCH CONSTRUCSION pLANS MUST BE REJACT£D IN WRITZNG
BY TXE AUTHORITY WITXIN I4 DAYS OF SUBMISSIDN OP. SHALL BE DEEMED TO HAVE BEEN
11PPROVEb BY THE AUTHORZTY."
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CXAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED (INANIMOUSLY.
MOTION $Y MR. PRAZRIE, SECONDED BY MR. PRIEDITIS� TO ADOPT THF, CONTRACT FOR
PRZVRTE DEVEZAPMENT BY AND BETWEEN THE HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY FOR
TXE CITY OF FRIDLEY� MINNESOTA� AND GERALD W, pASCHKE� AS AMENDED.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CXAZRPERSpN COMMERS DECLARED TNE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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Mr. Qureshi stated tF�is was discussed at the last meeting and plans were shown
to the HRA. The Fridly Plaza Clinic would like to proceed as soon as possible
because of approaching cold weather.
MOTION BY NR. PRPEDITZS, SECONDED BY MR. PRAIRIE� TO APPROVE TXE RESOLUTZON
APPROVING AN AGREEMENT FOR A TEMPORARY EASEMENT 21� FRZDLEY PLAZA CLINIC FOR
PARKZNG PURPOSES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAZRPERSON COMMF.RS DECLARED THE MO_TION
CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY.
HOUSIN G& REDEVELaPMENT AUTH�RITY MEETIN6L OCTOBER 10, 1985 PAGE 4
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3. CONSIDERATIO�J OF.SETTING A PIIBGfC'NEARING Fi1R'NOUEMB£R M''T985 'IN REGAR
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`: Mr. Qureshi stated this was also discussed at a prevl'Dus meeting.
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� MOTION BY MR, PRAZRSE, SECONDED BY MR. PRIEDITIS, TO SET A PUBLZC XF.ARING
FOR NOVEMBER 14� 1985� ZN REGARD TO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WI_^'H COLUMBIA
PARK PROPERSIES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED TNE MOTION
CRRRIED UNAIJIMOUSLY.
4. DISCUSSION RE6ARDING POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT ON THE CORNEf
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Mr. Commers stated this was also discussed at an earlier meeting. He stated
the HRA had a copy of the original letter of agreement the HRA entered into
with the Fridley Office Plaza Partnersf�ip, �n page 2 of that agreement was
the question about the option relating to this lot.
Mr. Commer.s stated that as part of the original transaction, they had been given
an option until Feb. 1, 1986, authorizing and giving the HRA the opportunity
to exercise, for the sum of $10,000 plus any unpaid property taxes as of the
date of purchase, the right to acquire the property. If the HR4 does not
exercise the option, then the redeveloper will pay to the HRA the sum of
$90,000 plus accrued interest at 10%.
Mr, Qureshi stated that the HRA also had a letter from Gus Doty dated
Oct. 8, 1985, He stated this letter was a little different from his earlier
understanding of the situation. Mr. Doty had said he wanted to extend the time
for six months, and he would continue to pay the extra interest. Then, he would
have his building constructed.
Mr. Conmers stated fiis interpretation of the letter from 6us Doty was that
Mr. Doty was asking the HRA to give up the option. The money he was going to
pay the HRA they would place on a mortgage for a year term.
Mr. Newman stated he would agree with tfiat interpretation.
Mr. Qureshi stated maybe he shouid talk to Mr. Doty again to get a clearer
understanding of the situation. If he felt it was necessary for Mr. Doty to
�discuss this further with the NRA, he would invite him to a meeting.
MOTION BY MR. PRIEDITIS� SECONDED BY MR, PRAZRIE� TO TABLE TNE DISCUSSION ON
THE POSSIBLE REDEVELOPMENT ON TNE CORNER OF 63RD AVE, AND UNZVERSITY SERVZCE ROAD.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE MOSION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITV �EE7IN6, OCTOBER 10, 1985 PAr,E 5
5. DISCUSSION REGARDING COUNCILMAN BARNETTE'S PROPOSAL fOR A GOLF�COURSE
�
` Mr. Barnette stated he attended the Comnunitv Development Corronission meetinp
! on Tuesday where he presented the idea of the possibility of a golf course
� on property wrapping around the nature center property,
Mr. Barnette stated tfiat to give a quicfc fiistory of the golf conrse, the whole
golf course/nature center issue went back to 197�-71. Aprpoximately one year
ago, a group of interested golfers came to him wanting to do sometfiinq. They
looked in the Charter and found it would take aoprox. 2,500 signatures to force
a referendum for tfie general election, The comnittee wrote a resolution to
vote on, did a mailing, and received 1,600 signatures, They were eager to go
door to door to get the rest of the needed signatures.
Mr. Barnette stated that apparently this created some interest from some other
people who did not want to get into the situation they f�ad in 197Q-71 and that
there should be another way. From all the information gathered in 1970-71, it
definitely showed a need for a golf course in this quadrant of the metropolitan
area.
Mr. Barnette stated with that, he went to the Comnuni.ty Development Commission
with some drawings of land that was available. A lot of the land is substandard
soil. One of the reasons he was before the HRA was the HRA had some condemna-
tion rights that might have to be exercised.
Mr, Barnette stated Mark Burch, Asst. Public Works Director, has talked to
Siah St. Clair, City Naturalist, about the compatibility of the golf course
and the nature center. Apparently, Mr. St. Clair was elated to have the golf
course as a ring around the nature center preserving the natural aesthetics.
There may be some reason to utilize the eastern half of the nature �enter.
Mr, Barnette stated Don Herfort, a golf architect in the 7win Cities, wfio was
involved in the golf course issue in 1970-71, has been in contact with him.
He has asked Mr. Herfort to talk to Mr. Burch to see if an 18-hole golf course
could go in on this site. All indications are that there is enough room.
Mr. Barnette stated f�e felt this was a great idea. He has gotten some recent
information that golf courses do make money. No golf Course he knew of in the
past ten years has gone bankrupt. Golf courses do not cost the taxpayers
money. and any money made over and above the bonds being paid off and taxes,
�etc., would go back into the park programs, general funds, contributing to the
community. Other things could be done on a golf course besides golf course;
for example, cross country skiiing in the winter.
Mr. Barnette stated the Cormnunity Development Commission has asked staff to
put together some preliminary figures on the total assessed value of the land
available and the cost to build a golf course. Staff will have that information
for the next Community Development Commission meeting,
Mr. Barnetie stated he was before the HRA to see if there was any interest on
the part of the HRA.
NOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY:MEETINf, OCTOBER 10, 1985 PAGE 6
Mr. Commers stated the HRA could not take any formal action at�this time.
The HRA was certainly willing to consider any proposal. He stated that once
� rtare information has been put together, the HRA would like to be kept informed
i as to what is taking place.
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� Mr. Prieditis stated he was not a gotfer, but he liked the idea,
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6. STORER CABLE COMMUNICA7I�N5 REQUEST POR R�IMBURSEI�tENT FOR {iND€#2GR(H1MD CABLE
Mr. Commers stated that at the Sept. 5, 1985, special HRA meeting, the HRA
discussed Storer's request for reim6ursement for underground cabte lines and
made a motion to deny that request.
Mr. Wegemer stated that Storer had appeared before the HRA once before request-
ing reimbursement for underground cable lines on Mississippi St., east of
University Ave. He wanted to make it clear that the request before the HRA
now was not the same situation. The HRA did deny tf�at first request, and they
were not attem�ting to resurrect that issue. This request was for the second
stage of the project for next year.
Mr. Wegemer stated he realized that v�hen they appeared 6efore the HRA before,
their timing might have been bad, so they were coming well in advance of the
next stage of the project.
Mr, Wegemer stated he wanted to explain the reason they were at the meeting and
the reason the CATV Advisory Commission recommended that Storer 6e reimbursed.
First of all, they were not contesting the HRA's right to require reim-
bursement. 7hey are just asking whether in tf�is partiCUlar case it was fair
and just to exercise that right. The reason for this was it was not Storer
who would be paying for this work; the cost would be passed on to the cable
subscribers so essentially they are asking 39% of the population in Fridley to
underwrite the cost of this project which was a form of indirect taxation,
That was the reason the CATV Advisory Cortmission recommended Storer be reimbursed
just like Northwestern Bell and NSP.
Mr. Commers stated he had not realized this was the second stage of the under-
ground project.
Mr. Qureshi stated this was the underground project on the west side of
University on Mississippi. He stated that in the case of NSP, their agreement
'provides that the NRA reimburse the+n. In the case of Storer, the agreement
provides that the HRA does not reimburse them. So, on one hand was the matter
of legality which Storer was not contesting, and on the other hand was the
matter of fairness.
Mr. Corrmers asked if there was any benefit to Storer whether the lines were
above ground or underground.
Mr. Qureshi stated, no, there was not. He thought the City Council had taken
the position that there was an agreement, and they should live by that agreement.
The HRA could make tbe decision to reimburse Storer if they wanted to. He stated
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, OC70BER 10, 1985 PAGE 7
the HRA already denied this request at their Sept. 5th meeting`- Mr. Wegemer
wanted to appear before the HRA to explain tfieir position as they fiad not
� been present at the neeting when their request was denied.
; Mr. CoMmers stated that when he acted on t6e motion to deny the request, he
� thought they were still talkin9 about the earlier request on the east side of
University Ave.
Mr. Prieditis stated that had been bis understanding also.
Mr. Commers stated he thought this item should be continued and discussed again
at the next meeting as the situation was a little different from the first
request. The HRA does have a contract, and he would hesitate to start operatinq
differently than what the contractual agreement says. It was difficult to set
that kind of precedent. The other side of it was he did see where there was
some merit to Storer's request where it was something that was being done
because of the HRA's desires to benefit the Center Citv redevelopment area.
Mr. Prairie stated he would agree with Mr. Commers.
Mr. Commers stated maybe a member of the CATV Advisory Commission could come
to the next meeting to verbalize their feelings and iww they arrived at their
decision.
MOTZON BY MR. PRZEDITZS, SECONDED BY MR. PRAIRZE, TO REOPEN TH£ CONSIDERATION
OF THE REQUEST BY STORER CABLE COMMUNICATIONS FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR UNDF.RGRDUND
LINES AT THE NOVEMBER 19TX MEETING.
The Commissioners agreed that a member of the CATU Advisory Cormiission be
invited to the Nov. 14th meeting.
UPON A VQICE VOTE� ALL VO2ZNG AYE� CXAZRPF.RSON COMMERS DECLARED THE MOPIDP7
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
7. APPROVAL OF THE HOUSING & RE�EVELOPhiE�J7 AUTHORITY BROCHURE FOR 1985:
Mr. Comners stated that in his report, "Fridley, Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow",
he would recommend that in the left column, second paragraph, the following
sentences be eliminated: "After the 1965 tornado, Fridley turned down a
$3 million urban renewal grant in favor of private initiative. Private
initiative was minimal."
Mr. Prieditis stated he felt it was very worthwhile to keep the citizens of
Fridley informed of the HRA's activities.
Mr. Commers stated he would support the project. It was important to try to
help people understand what is going on, and the cost was r2asonable in view of
the overall picture. �,
Mr. Prairie stated that the first brochure must have done a good job of explain-
ing things because he fiad not received any negative feedback as a result of it,
HOUSINf & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEE7ING, OCTOBER 10, 1985 PA6E 8
MOSIDN BY MR. PRZEDITIS� SECONDED BY MR. PRAZRIE� TD APPROVE TAE HRA BROCHURE
FF(�R T�85 AS AMENDED AND TO AUTHORIZE EXPENDITURF.S UP TO 52�300 BY STAFF FOR
! BROCNURE COSTS� PRINSING� AND MAILING,
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t UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAZRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED TXE MOTION
i CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY.
8. CHECK REGISTER:
MOTION BY MR, PRAZRIE� SECONDED BY MR, PHZEDSTSS� TO ApPROVE TNE CHECK REGISTERS
DATED SEPT! 23� 1985� AND OCTOBER 9� 1985,
UPON A VOZCE VOT$� ALL VOTING RYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED TNE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ADJOUR�JMENT:
MOTION BY MR, PRAIRIE� SECONDED BY MR. PRIEDZTSS� TO ADJOURN TXE MEETZN6. UPON
A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMF.RS DECLARED THE OCTOBER 10, 1985,
HOUSING 6 IZEDEVELOPMENT AUTXORITY MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:19 P,M.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, RLL vOTZNG AYE, CXAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED TXE MDSION
CARRIED UNRNIMOUSLY.
Respectfully submi�
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ynn� Sa a
Recording Secretary
CITY Of FRIDLEY
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION
MEETING
OCTOBER 15, 1985
CALL TQ ORDER:
Vice-Chairpers�n Gronlund called the October 15, 1985, Environmental Quality
Cortmission meeting to order at 7:55 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Tom Gronlund, Bruce Peterson, Richard Svanda
Members Absent: Maynard Nielsen, Wayne Wellan
Others Present: Myra Gibson, Energy/Planning Coordinator
APPROVAL OF SEPTEMBER 17, 1985, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COhP1ISSI0N MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Peterson, seconded by Mr. Svanda, to approve the September 17,
T4$�, Environmental Quality Commission minutes.
Ms. Gibson requested a correction in the spelling of Susan "Meriam" to Merriam.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, YICE-CHAIRPERSON GRONLUND DECLARED THE
MINUTES APPROVED AS AMENDED.
1. UPDATE ON S.O.R.T.
t4s. Gibson indicated that she had spoken to Connie Metcalf about the effect
of the recycling program on their business. Ms. Metcalf stated that they
. have noticed no change in participation. Mr. Beermann of Beermann Services
had indicated rtrore participation.
2. INFORMATION ON COMPOSTING
Ms. 6ibson referred to the information on composting enclosed with the
agenda and indicated that this contained a good deal of information on
metro area composting programs.
Ms. Gibson asked for suggestions for a composting site. Suggestions included
the area adjacent to S.O.R.T., the Springbrook Nature Center, near the City
garage in Locke Park, and perhaps at the park across University from Columbia
Arena.
The comnission felt the best sites would be near S.O.R.T. or Locke Park.
Ms. Gibson was requested to discuss the sites with staff. If these sites
were not acceptable, Ms. Gibson was asked to have staff pravide alternative
sites.
Mr. Svanda indicated that, if funds were needed, it may be possible to use
some funds fram the $4.00 per ton recycling monies.
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COhA1ISSI0N MEETING, OCTOBER 15, 1985 PAGE 2
Mr. Peterson indiceted that in order to do composting properly some equipment
would be needed to aerate and turn the compost periodically, such as a tractor
with a front end loader. He added that this would require some staff time.
Ns. Gibson agreed to contact Ramsey County so see how they started their
program and obtain more background information.
Mr. Peterson suggested also contacting Anoka County.
Mr. Svanda indicated that Anoka County is still involved with a mass burn
facility and did not know how much time they were committing to composting.
However, he felt it a good idea to contact the County and, until they are
ready to take up tfie subject of composting, get information prepared so that
the City of Fridley is prepared to proceed.
Vice-Chairperson Gronlund requested that for the next meeting the commission
look at existing composting programs, get ideas from the City on possible
sites, and see what the County of Anoka is doing.
3. UPDATE ON MINNEAPOLIS WATER WORKS
Ms. Gibson indicated that the issue is being handled by the County of Anoka.
The City of Minneapolis rias ordered on September 26 to provide a remedial
ar.tion plan within 15 days.
Mr. Peterson requested P1s. Gibson to contact the County of Anoka to see if
a remedial action plan had been submitted and to inquire of City staff why
the City was not involved in this action.
4. DISCUSSION ON JAYCEES INVOLVEMENT IN FALL PUBLICITY
Ms. Gibson indicated that she had spoken to Dale Thompson of the Jaycees.
He indicated that the Jaycees are trying to put together a Recycling Committee
to consider the following suggestions and how to proceed:
- provide information on the recycling program to students through the
elementary schools, perhaps through flyers distributed in the classroom
- request area churches to place notices about the program in their
church bulletin
- contact other civic organizations
- work with the Boy Scouts to see if the Scouts could earn badges as well
as provide a servite for the recycling program
- enclose a flyer with the Christmas wreathes or invoices at the time of
delivery
- develop a better means of displaying the "Friday i� Fridley" signs.
Ms. Gibson noted that at this time the Jaycees have not given a solid
commitment.
Mr. 6ronlu�d requested Ms. Gzbson to follow up with Mr. Thompson and invite
him to the next meeting if he feels there is anything to discuss.
ENUIR�NMENTAL �UALITY COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 15, 1985 PAGE 3
5. DISCUSSION ON WASTE OIL TANK
�1s. Gibson indicated that the waste oil tank in the City of Fridley has a
1,000 gallon eapacity.
Mr. Svanda noted that possible new EPA requirements regarding waste oil tanks
may have an effect on the City.
Mr. Peterson indicated that it was his understanding that Ms. Metcalf at
S.�.R.T, was to receive a percentage of the proceeds from the sale of waste
oil after initial expenses were covered. Ms. Gibson was asked to see if
Ms. Metcalf was receiving proceeds and report back to the comnittee at its
next meeting.
6. OTHER BUSINE5S
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Vice-Chairperson Gronlund asked if Mr. Beermann of Beermann Services had
provided any figures on the recyciing program yet.
Ms. Gibson indicated that no figures had been provided to the City to date.
Mr. Peterson requested Ms. Gibson to check the contract to see what was
requi red of Mr. Beermann.
Ms. Gibson indicated that the City has not been invoiced; and if an
invoice was received, approval for payment would not be given until the
proper reports were submitted.
tdr. Svanda added that even more critical is the need to know the amounts
collected because it effects the $4.00 per ton rebate. He requested Ms.
Gibson to call Katy Boone at the Metropolita� Council who is in charge
of the rebates.
Vice-Chairperson Gronlund asked if the County of Anoka had yet approved
fu�dinn,
t4s. Gibson indicated that the County is still putting together their grant
monies and will be reviewed eoon.
Vice-Chairperson Gronlund requested Ms. Gibson to provide an update at the
next meeting.
Vice-Chairperson Gronlund requested an update on the mass burn facility.
No additional information was available at this time.
AOJOURNMENT:
MOTION by Mr. Svanda, seconded by Mr. Peterson, to adjourn the meeting.
UPON A VOICE YOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON GRONLUND DECLARED THE OCTOBER 15,
1985, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:30 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
��u�-, �.-fL' //`��:ti'
Lavonn Cooper, Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
APPEALS COh4�1ISSI0N MEETING, OCTa6ER 15, 1985
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson 6abe1 called the October 15, 1985, Appeals Comnission meeting to
order at 7:35 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Menbers Present
Members Absent:
Pat Gabel, Alex Barna, Jim Pignel, Donald Betzold
Jean 6erou
Others Present: Darrel Clark, City of Fridley
Theodore Burandt, 6211 Riverview Terrace N.E.
Dennis Wood, 7571 Alden Way N.E.
Norm Brody, 2233 North Hamline Ave „ St. Paul 55113
Donald & Mary Landry, 6597 Pierce St. N.E.
Gerald Paschke, 7970 University Ave. N.E.
William & Marge Remarke, 510 Cheri Lane N.E.
See attached list
APPROVAL OF SEPTEh1BER 17. 1985. APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTZON BY f472. BETZOLD, SECONDED BY MR. BARNA, TO APPROVE TXE SEPT. 17, 29B5�
APPEALS COMMISSZON MZNUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CNAIRPERSON GABEL DF.CLARED THE MOTZON
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
OLD BUSINE55: TABLED FROM THE SEPTEMBER 17TH MEETING
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1, CONSIDERATION OF A VARIANCE REDUEST PURSUANT TO CHAPTfR 205 OF 7Hf fRIDL
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Item to remain on the table,
NEW BUSINESS:
2. CONSIDERATION OF A VARIANCE
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eo ore uran t an ar o e uran , Zvervtew Terrace N.E.,
Fridley, Mn. 55432j
APPEALS COMMISSION h1EETING, OCTOBER 15, 1985 PAGE 2
MOTION BY MR. BARNA� SE�ONDED BY MR. BETZOLD� TO OPEN THE PUBLIC NEARING,
UPON A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED TNE PUBLIC
NEARING OPEN AT 7:37 P.M.
Chairperson Gabel read the Administrative Staff Report:
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
62Ti Riverview Terrace N.E.
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENT:
5ection 205.07.3D.3a requires a rear vard setback of not less than
25 percent of the lot depth, with not less than 25 feet permitted or
more than 40 feet required for the main buildinq.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to provide rear yard space
to be used for green areas which enhance the neighborhood.
B. STATED HARDSHIP:
"Grandmother is 85 years old and cannot use stairs. She will be
moving in January 1, 1986."
C. ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW:
Petitioner wants to add a room onto the rest of the existing home.
The desired addition would reduce the rear yard from the required
32 feet to 14.7 feet.
if the Board approves this request, staff has no stipulations to suqgest.
Mr, Clark stated the Commissioners had an aerial photo which showed the house
and the adjoining structures. The neighbor immediately behind the petitioner
had come into the office inquiring about the pronosal. He was planning to
build a detached garage in the near future, and his only concern was whether
Mr, Burandt's addition would have any affect on his building a garage.
Mr, Clark stated he had assured tfie neighbor it would not.
Mr. Burandt stated they have an existing three-season porch on that end of
the house right now with a flat roof. He planned to tear off the porch and
exnand and put a gabte into the roof. The addition would be a 14 ft. by 14 ft.
family room. Because his grandmother who will be living with them cannot climb
up and downstairs, this will give her a family room area on the first floor.
MOTION BY MR. BARNA� SECONDED BY MR, BETZOLD, TO CLOSE TXE PUBLIC XEARING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CNAIRPERSON GABEL DF,CLARED THE PU$LIC
HEARING CLOSED AT 7;43 P.M.
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, �CTOBER 15, 1985 PA6E 3
Mr. Betzold stated he was not sure the hardship as stated was very clearly
defined. What the petitioner was proposing would take up most of the
exi.sting back yard; however, on this particular block, there are about ten
homes that share what is one large comnon back yard. He did not recall
seeing any other property like this in the city. When he looked at the
property, he felt it would not be offensive to add on to the back of the
house because the petitioner was clearly not enfringing upon anyone else's
area. The closest house was pretty far away. From that circumstance, the
proposal was well within the code's intent. Because of the uniqueness of the
lot, he would be in favor of the variance as requested.
Mr. Barna stated that if the one neighbor most affected had no objection, and
as Mr. Betzold had point out, this was a unique situation, he would have no
objection to the variance.
Mr. Plemel and Ms. Gabel stated the did not object to the variance request.
MOTZON BY MR. BETZOLD� SECONDED BY MR. BARNA� TO RPPROVE A VARZANCE REQUESS
PURSUAP7T TD CHAPTER 205 OF TXE FRIDLEY CITY CODF. TO REDUCE TNE REAR YARD
SETBACR FROM 32 FEET TO 24,70 FEET Tb RLLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A LIVZNG ARF.A
ADDITZON ON LQT 6� BLACK 2� JULZ-ANN ADDZTION, TXE SAME BESNG 6211 RIVERVIE47
TERRACE N,E.
UPON A VOSCE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE, CHAIRPF,RSON GABEL DECLARED THF, MOTION
CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY,
3. CONSIDERATION OF A UARIANCE REQUEST PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 205 OF 7HE FRI
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MOTZON BY MR. PLEMEL, SECONDED BY MR. BETZOLD, TO OPEN TXE PUBLZC HEARIf7C,.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL '✓OTING RYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARF.D THE PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN AT 7;46 P.M,
Chairperson Gabel read the Administrative Staff Report:
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
7571 Alden Way N.E.
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERUED BY REQUIRFI�IENT:
Section 205.07.3D.1 requires a front yard with a depth of not less
than thirty-five (35) feet.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to allow for off-street
parking without encroaching on the public right of way and also for
aesthetic consideration to reduce the building "line of sight"
encroachment into the neighbor's front yard.
APPEALS COMMISSION �EETING, OCTOBER 15, 1985 PAGE 4
B, STA7ED HAR�SHIP:
"Permission needed because of family members handicap and security of
6usiness supplies."
C, ADMItdISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW:
A previous owner requested a similar variance in i967 which was denied.
That request was for a 13.2 foot setback from Alden Way.
There is a 15 feot boulevard on Alden Way which would put the proposed
garage approximately 23.5 feet from the curb. There is room for a
detached garage on the east side of the house. This location would not
be adjacent to the rear door of the existing house,
Ms. Gabel stated that in the agenda was a copy of the public hearing notice
with a note attacfied to the bottom of tfie notice which stated: "We are opnosed
to tt� re�uested variance due to the appearan�e and feel it would affect the
property values of the nei:gfiborfiood as well," It was signed by Gladys Silseth
and Arthur Silseth.
MOTION BY MR. BARNA� SECONDED BY MR, BET20LD, TO RECEIVE THE LETTER DATED
CKTOBER 10� 1985� FROM MR. & MRS. SILSESN STATING THEZR OBJECTION TO THE
VARIANCE.
UpON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THfi MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Clark stated the Commissioners had a picture of the house where the qarage
was proposed and an aerial photo of the property. He stated Mr. & Mrs. Silseth
live at 752] Alden Way which is three houses to the south.
Mr. Clark 5tated that as stated in the staff report, there was a similar request
which was denied in 1967. A copy of the Sept. 27, 1967, minutes were included
in the agenda. Also stated in the staff report was the fact that there was room
for a detached garage on the east side of tfie house which would require no variance.
Mr. Dennis Woad stated he had prepared some booklets which exp]ained the pro�osed
construction. On one page was a drawing drafted by an engineering firm showinq
the site lines as the driver would be approaching Alden Way on Rickard Road and
showing the proposed new construction from the curb line. 7here was approxi-
mately 3T ft. to the cTosest corner of the proposed garage.
Mr. Clark stated that the original petition was for a detached garage 6 ft.
away from the house. Was the request changed to an attached garage?
Mr. Wood stated the proposed garage would be attached to the house.
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING. OCTOBER l5, 1485 PAGE 5
Mr. Clark stated this would change the front yard variante request from
35 ft, to 8 ft, to 35 ft, t0 14 ft.
Mr. Wood stated the proposed size of the new garage would be 24 ft. wide bv
22 ft, deep. ?here was a page in the booklet showing the elevations as the
garage would look facing it from Alden Way and Rickard Road. A page also
showed the floor detail indicating they plan to put in a handicap ramp so
family members can get in and out easily. They had appraisals done of adjoin-
ing properties which indicated tfie new construction would not devalue or deface
other properties.
Mr, Wood stated he had two letters, one from an adjoining neighbor 0000sing
the garage to be built on the opposite side of the house, and the other neighbor
not opposed to building the garage at tfie proposed location.
MOTION BY MR, PLEMEL, SECQNDEP BY MR. BETZOLD� TO RECEIVE SNTO SHF, RECORD
THE TWO LETTERS FROM AA7071IING PROPERSY QWNERS,
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE� CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Wood staied that both his parents are disabled and in wheelchairs. Nis
father has Parkinson's Disease, and his motf�er is temporarily disabled with
a broken ankle. His father is unable to get out of the car and by 6uilding
the garage attached with a ramp, he would have a secure place for his father
to come about three times a week as he needs to have periodic checkuns at the
hospital,
Mr. Wood stated securitv was also very important to them because he has business
supplies delivered to his home. If the garage was constructed on the other
side of the house, they would not be able to see it very well and things would
be less secure.
Mr, Wood stated that also if the garage was constructed on the other side of
the house, there were bedrooms on that end of the house so access from that
side of the house was not feasihle. Access would be difficult as they would
have to walk around either the front or the back to gain access. By placing
the garage where it is proqosed, it would also act as a windblock as far as
energy conservation.
Mr. LeRoy Anderson, 7581 Alden Way, stated he lived directly to the north.
He stated he objected to the variance for a garage in 1967. and he was still
opposed to it. He was going to have roughly a 65-66 ft, wall staring at hir�
from his back door. To him, it was too large a variance from the front of
his house.
Ms. Ga6e1 stated that part of the problem with this request was the techni-
cality in the code that the narrow part of the 7ot becomes the front yard.
APPEALS CONMISSIQN MEETIPJG, OCTOBER 15, 1985 PAGE 6
Ms. Joanne Anderson, 7581 Alden Way, stated she was home all day, and she
would be looking at that wall all the time. She stated they allowed Mr, Wood
to build a privacy fence and he has a shed. Tfie snow really piles up along
there now, and a garage would worsen tfie situation.
MOTZON BY MR. BETZOLD� SECONDED SY MR, BARNR� TO CIASE THE PUBLIC NEARING,
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARING CIASED AT 8:I2 P.M.
Mr. Plemel stated he was sorry to hear the neighborhood objection, He thought
the garage where it was proposed was the logical place to put it. and he did
not think it would impair the line of vision becuase of the trees in there now.
He stated Mr. Wood has 3-4 vehicles and it is best to get them inside in this
northern climate,
Mr. Barna stated tfie main th9ng he had trouble with was the hardship. Mr. Wood
has family members who come to his home to get hospital care and need a ramp,
but they are not residents of his home. If tfiey lived there, he would be in
favor of voting for the variance, but tfiis is a temporary situation, and this
is a permanent building. Knowing how everyone feels about their property and
property values in this area, he would oppose the variance as proposed.
Mr. Betzold stated the question before the Appeals Commission was whether or
not the strict enforcement of the literal provisions of the ordinance are going
to cause an undue hardship because of circumstances unique to the property that
is under consideration. He did not find that in this situation. There are
neighborhood objections, one written, and three in person. The same request
was made to the Appeals Canmission in the past dnd was turned down, Flothing
has changed. The purpose can be accompTished without a variance. He did not
think the hardship as stated was a valid hardship, at teast within the meaninq
of the statutes, and he would be opposed to the variance.
Ms. Gabel stated she totally disagreed. She thought the hardship was real
clear; however, she did not think it was well defined within the "stated hard-
ship" written in the Administrative Staff Report. She thought the hardship was
very obvious. She could not imagine in the Minnesota cli;nate living without a
garage. She thougfit the fact that the petitioner needed a garage was clear,
and she thought it was total]y illogica] an� irrational to put the garage on
the side of the house where there was no entrance. It did not matter whether
people were handicapped or not in this situation. The most logical place to
put the garage was w6ere the petitfoner had requested it. She did not believe
there would be any impact on any property values in the neighborhood by placing
the garage in this location. If anyt�ing, sfie felt it would enhance the
property values in the neighborhood.
Mr. Plemel stated he agreed with Ms. Gabel, He could understnad the neighbors'
thinking, but he did not t6ink their o6jections were valid,
APPEALS COP4IISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 15, 1985 PAf,E 7
MOTION BY MR. PLEMEL� TO RECOMMEND TO CSTY COUNCIL 1ppROVAL OF A VARIRNCE REQUEST
PURSURNT TO CHAPTER 205 OF TXE FRIDLEY CITY CODF. TO REDUCE THE FRONT YARD
SETBACK FROM 35 FEET TO 14 FEET TO ALIAW TXE CONSTRUCTION OF A GARAGF. ON LOT 6,
BLOCK 1, ELWELLS' RNERSSDE HEIGHTS PLRT 2, THE SAME BEING 757I ALDEN WAY N.E.
MOTZON DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND,
M02'ZON BY MR. BETZOLD� SECONDED BY MR. BARNR, TO RF.COMMF,NP TO CSTY COUNCIL
DENZAL OF VARZANCE IiEQUF.ST pURSUANT TO CHAPTER 205 OF THE FRSDLEY CITY CODE �
REDUCE TXE FRONT YARD SETBACK FROM 35 FEET 21� 24 FEET TQ ALIAW TXF, CONSTHUCTION
OF A GARAGE ON LOT 6� BI.00X Z� ELWELLS' RIVERSIDE NEIGNSS PLAT 2� THF SAME BEING
7571 ALDEN WAY N,E.
UpON A VOICE VOTE� BETZOLD AND HARNA VOTING AYE� GABEL AND PLEMEL VOTING NAY,
CXAIRPERSON GABEL DECZJ�RED TXE MOTION FAZLED BECAUSE OF A TIE VOTE.
Ms. Gabel stated this item would go to City Council on Nov. 4,
4. COIJSIDERATION OF A VARIANCE REOUFST PURSUANT TQ CHAPTER 205 OF THE FRIDLEY
oan
ourrow, 5y�4 uakwooa rtanor, Fridley, Mn. 5543Z)
MOTZON BY MR. BETZOLD, SECONDED BY MR. BARNR, TO OYEN THE Pi�BLIC XEARING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHhIRPF.RSDY GABEL DECLARED THE P[1BLZC
HEARING OPEN AT 8:20 P,M.
The petitioners, 6erald and Joan Burrow, were not present at the meeting.
MO_TZON BY MR, BETZOLD� SECONDED HY MR, BARNA, TO TABLE TNZS Z'.?'F.M,
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED TXE MOTiO.N
CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY.
5. CONSIDERATION OF A VARIANCE RE(XJEST PURSUAtJT TO CHAPTER 214 OF THE FRIDLEY
.
ccss namiine Hvenue, �t. Naul, rtn, bbll3)
MOSION 8Y MR. PLEMEL, SECONDED BY 7fR, BARNA� TO OPEN TH£ pUBLIC HEARING.
VPQN A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CXAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARBD THE PUBLZC
HEARZNG OPEN AT 8:2I P,M.
APPEALS COMh1I55I0N MEETING,'OCTOBER 15, 1985 PAGE 8
Chairperson Gabel read the Administrative Staff Report:
A6MINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
765-764 53rd Avenue N.E.
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REDUIREI4ENT:
Section 214.12.2B restricts the maximum to eighty (8Q} square feet tn
total free-standing sign area per development.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to control visual pollution
and excessive use of signs in commerciat areas.
B. STATED HARDSHIP:
1. The property and building are located at an eievation which is
iocated so far 6elow the main thoroughfare (Central Avenue) that
visibility is almost nonexlstent.
2. Comp�unding the difference in elevation between the building and
Central Avenue is the fact that the buiTding is tucked into a hili-
side. This faCt further reduces visibility from Central Avenue.
3. Wall signs are totally inadequate to provide any identification
from the east, which is where almost all notentiaT customers would
have to enter (via 53rd Avenue},
for the above reasons, a variance is requested to allo�i two of tf�e tenants
in this �roject to inst:li signage on the exfsting oylon; such signage not
to exceed 40 sq. ft. in total surface area.
C, ADMIIJISTRATIVE S7AFF REVIEW:
A sign height variance was granted for this pylon sign in Februar,y of
this year tfrom 25 feet to 35 feet). The Pickwick oylon sign is 80
sq. ft.; therefore no additional sign area is left for additional signs.
There are ��all signs that identif� tfie other two tenant spaces.
Mr, Clark stated the Cormissioners had an aerial photo of the area, �long with
a n�cture of the s9gn. Mr. Brody was pro�osing to add two more panels below
tfie existing panel to indicate his t�vo other tenants. When the Pickwick build-
ing was built, it was anticinated there would be one, and possiblv two other
tenants. Mr. Brody did bring in a wall sign olan wf�ich the City apnroved,
and he has a Cost Cutters' iogo on the front wall facinq 53rd and on the west
wall facing Target.
Mr. Brody stated he was tfie developer of tfie site and also the o�aner of the
property. Because of the building's iocatfon, it was a very difficult site.
they took a difffcult site and developed a very attractive building; however,
they did not anticipate the hardsfiips the tenants would find once thev ooened
for business. �
APPEALS COMI�ISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 15, 1985 PAGE 9
Mr. Brody stated he was talking about Cost Cutters and a potential tenant,
Mr. Tax of America, which was a tax financial planning service. This tenant
had recognized the difficulty with the site and had indicated it would not
be interested in leasing unless tfiere was some tyne of signage on the pylon.
Mr. Brodv stated that right now, he has the maximum signage allowed under the
ordinance (80 sq. ft.). He is asking for two smaller signs, each 20 sq. ft.,
which tivould be located under the Pickwick sign. The signs would be professionally
done, would be tastef�l, and would be used for identification only.
Mr. Brody showed the Com�issioners photographs of the site, directinq their
attention specifically to the east elevation taken from Central Avenue. The
Pickwick sign was visible, but the building was barelv visib7e. Because of
the undue hardship of the low elevation from Central Avenue and the fact that
the building was tucked into tfie side of the hill, he stated it really made it
very difficult for his tenants to operate.
Mr. Brody stated that in the audience were Earl Faulkner and Vern Gunderson,
owners of Cost Cutters, and tfie �anager who would be willing tn tell about how
their customers have coMnented on tfie difficulty in locating the business.
Also, in the audience was Craig Olson, a representative from Mr. Tax of America,
who would be willing to answer any questions and also state the problem he would
have in locating in the building without a sign,
tdr. &etzold asked if any consideration had been given to reducin� the Pickwick
sign,
Mr. Brody stated he did not think tfiat was feasible. This was a new sign,
and Pickwick paid approximately $6,000 for the sign.
Mr. Betzold asked if there was any more room in the building for more Cenants.
Mr. Brody stated that with t4r. Tax of America, the building would be 100%
leased.
Ms. Gabel stated that if the approve the variance, some tvpe of sti�ulation
would have to be put on it to preclude this from ever being a 120 sq, ft. sign,
shnuld the te�ants change.
Mr. Brodv stated that Pickwick has a 15-year lease, and their lease nrovides
that thev have an 80 sq. ft. sign, What would be fair would be that at such
time as Pickwick moved out, at that point the too signage for the new tenant
could be reduced to 40 sq. ft. That would get them back to the confor�inn
80 sq, ft.
Mr. Plemel stated he felt the variance should not qo with the tenants but with
the real propertv,
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING; OC706ER 15 1985 PAGE la
Mr, Barna stated that if the variance was grarted, it should go with the
property in the instance that there are at least two tenants on the propertv;
but if there was to be only one tenant on the property, then the variance
would be rescinded and it would revert back to 80 sq. ft.
Mr. Brody stated he would agree with that stipulation.
MOTION BY MR. BARl7A, SECONDED BY MR. BETZOLD, TO CIASE THE PUBLIC XEARING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTSNG AYE� CXAIkPERSON GRBEL DECLARED TNE PUBLZC
HEARING CLOSED AT 8:40 P.M.
Ms. Gabel stated the hardshib was very clear th�t the netitioner needed a
variance to have the signs there. She thought the request was very reasonable,
and she had no reason to deny tfie variance request,
Mr. Barna stated there was a definite hardship. He could see the need for
the si�ns; but he would recomriend they put on a limitation that an additional
20 sa. ft. per tenant be allowed as long as there were at least t�ao tenants
in the building. At such a time as tfiere would be only one tenant in the
building, then the additional 40 sq. ft. wouid 6e removed revertinn back to
80 sq. ft. of signaqe. PickwiCk now has an 8G sq, ft, sign, but if Pickwick
left, the new tenant replacing Pickwick would only be allowed 40 sq. ft.,
with the total combination not to exceed 80 sq, ft.
MOTION BY MR. BARNA� SECONDED BY MR, BETZOLD� TO RECOfiMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVRL OF A VARIANCE REQL1EST PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 214 OF TNF FRZDLEY C£TY
CODE TO ZNCREASE TXE MAXSMUM SQUARE FDOTAGE OF A FREE STANDING SIGN FR019 80
SpUARE FEET TO IZO SQUARE FEET TO ALLOW TXE PLACEMENT OF TWO (2j 20" X 21'6„
PANELS ON THE EXISTZNG PYLON ON IAT 1, BLOCK 2, TARGET ADDI_TION, ANOKA COUNTY,
TNE SAME BEING 765-769 53RD AVENUE N,E. WZTH THE FOLLOWING STIPULRTI0175:
2. SHE ADDITIONAL 40 SQ. FT, TO BE RLIAWED FUR TWO ADDITIONAL TENANTS
AT 20 SQ. FT. PER TENANT� AS LONG AS TNERF. ARF. SG10 TENANTS IN THE
BUILDING. FF EITHER OF TXE TWO TENANTS SHOULD MOVE OUT, THE SQUARE
FODTAGE [tiILL BE REDUCEU BY 20 SQ. FT,
2. THE 80 SQ. FT. SICN TO REMAZN FOR PICKWICK BOOK STORE. IF� FOR ANY
REASON, PICKWICK BOOK STORE SHOULD MOVE, THE 80 SQ. FT. SIGNAGE FOR
TNE NEW TENANT WILL HE REDUCED TO 40 SQ, FT,� MAKING THE TOTAL
SQUARE FOOTAGE OF SZGNAGE, WITX A MRXIMUM OF TWO ADDITSONAL TENANTS�
TO NOT EXCEED 80 Sp. FT,
UpON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAZRPERSON GA&F,L DF,CLARED THE MOTION
CARpIED UNANIMOUSLY.
6. CQ7JSIDERATION OF A VARIAWCE REQUEST PURSUANT TD CHAPTER 205 OF THE FRIDLEV CITY
� , .
, � eques y ona �, an ry,
terce ree .., rt ey, n.
0.PPEALS CONMISSIOP! MEETING, OCTOBEP, 15, 1985 PAGE 11
MOTION BY MR. BETZOLD� SECONDED BY MR. BARP7A� TO OPEN SHF. PUBLZC HERRING.
UPON A VDICE VO2E� ALL VOTING RYE, CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THF, P!iBLZC
HEARING OPEN AT 8:47 P.M.
Chairperson Gabel read the Administrative Staff Report:
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
6597 Pierce Street N.E.
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENT:
Section 205.07.3D.2c.1 requires that the side yard width on a street side
of a corner lot shall not be less tfian seventeen and one-half (17.5) feet.
Puhlic purpose served by this requirement is tn maintain a hiqher degree
of traffic visibility and to reduce tfie "line of sight" encroach�ent into
the neigfibor's front yard.
B. STATED HARDSHIP:
"1, We have a child with Neurofibronatosis, a disorder of the nervous
svstem. This condition could be aqqravated by extreme cnld weather.
Child must be brought to school, mother works necessitating a two-
car attached garage to make sure the car starts in cold weather.
"2. We feel it could improve the current aestfietic value in the neighborhood,"
C. ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW:
The petitioner wants to add 10.5 feet onto his existing 12 foot wide narage
to make it a 22.5 foot, two-car garage. The boulevar� width is 10 feet,
therefore the proposed addition would be 15.7 feet fran the curb. The house
to the rear does not face the side street; it faces Channel Road,
The petitioner does have room to construct a detached garage in the rear
yard, however, then fie would need to convert his existing attached garage
to living area or obtain a special use permit for two garages.
Mr, Clark stated the Commissioners had a picture of the property along with an
aerial photo. He stated the oetitioner could reduce the size of the garage
dotan to something less than 22 ft. if the �etitioner was willing to do so.
However, there was not much room to compromise as two cars could not be parked
in anythinq less than 20 ft.
Mr. Landrv stated that, for the reasons stated, thev feel the attached garage
would be better than placing tfie garage in the back,
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 15, i985 PAGE 12
MO_TZON BY MR. BARNA� SECONDED BY MF. PLEMEL, TO CLOSE THE PUBiZC HF.AI2ING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYP, CXAIRPERSON GRBEL DECLARED THE pJBLSC
XEARING CIASED AT 8:55 P.M.
Mr. Barna stated he could definitely see tf�e fiardship. He was familiar with
Neurofibronatosis and sympathized witfi tfie parents. It does cause extreme
discomfort in cold weather, He could understand why the petitioners wanted
an attached garage rather than a detacfied garage because of the aggravation of
cnld weatf�er to tfie chi7d with tfiis disease, A detached garage in the rear
yard would not be feasible because tfie garage would f�ave to 6e in the middle
of the yard. If tf�e garage was attacfied to the east part of the house, they
would lose all the windows to tF�e rear of the house, He stated he would vote in
favor of the variance.
Mr. Plemel stated that since there was no neiqhborhood objection anA because
of the absence of traffic in this area, he would be in favor of nranting the
variance,
Mr. Betzold stated he felt this was a personal hardship; it has nothing to do
with the statutory tests they were supposed to 6e following. He felt the oro6lem
they are going to face was that at some point down the line, there is going to
be a very similar situation like tf�is and because a neighbor objects, thev will
deny it on that basis. He felt they had "watered" anv meaning out of the Citv
Code based on a lot of personal considerations that fiave absolutely nothing to
do with the property. He did agree tf�at from a financial and nersonal startd-
point, it did not make sense to put tfie garage in any other location, He would
not oppose the variance, but he did have these concerns.
Ms, Gabel stated that part of what Mr. Betzold stated was valid. But, the other
thing the Commission was apprised of several years ago was that financia7 con-
siderations were also hardships. She felt that askin9 peonle to literallv take
a part off their house and move it finto another portion of the vard, aside from
the fact that it was making people jump a lot of unnecessary bureaucratic hoops,
she felt it was truly a financial hardsfiip. She still felt very strongly that
in this climate, having a garage was a necessity. She was in favor uf the
variance.
MOTION BY MR. PLEMEL� SECONDED BY MR.BARNA, TO APPROV£ R VARIANCE REQi7EST
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER ZOS OF TXE FRIDLEY CZTY CODE TO REDUCE TXE SIDE YARD SETBACK
ON A CORNER IAT FROM 17.5 FE£T TO 5.7 FEET TO ALIAG7 THE CONSTkUCTION OF AN
ATTACHED GARAGE ON LOT 24, BLOCK 2, DON'S 2ND ADDImION, THE SAME BEING 6597
PIERCE STREET N.E.
UPON A UOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED TXF. MOTION
CARRIED UNRNIMOUSLY.
APPEALS COh1MISSION MEETING OCTOBER 15 1985 PA6E 13
7. COIJSIDERATIO�� OF VARIANCE REQUESTS PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 2i4 OF THE FRIDLEY
E T� REDUCE �HE MINFM M DIST F ��F�F�b�1�I1�Y �Ffi�ERT��F�tb}1
E FO 0 FfET; T0 Ii�CREASE-THF MAXIMUM ij�jARF �OTAGE Of A FREE STAND
AQM 8 50. FT. TO 160 S0. FT„ -0N LOTS 4� 5. 6. 7. & 8. BLOCK 3,
UNIVERSITY INDU�RIAL PARK ADDITION. TNE SAP1E �EING 79�0 UNIVERSITY AVEh7U
(Request by Gerald Pascf�ke, 7970 University Avenue, Fridley, Mn. 55432)
MOTION BY MR. BARNA� SECONDED HY MR. BBTZOLD� 1'O OPEN TXE PUBLIC HF.ARZNG.
UpON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE� CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED TNE PUBLIC
HERRING OPEN AT 9:00 P,M.
Chairperson 6abe1 read the Administrative Staff Report:
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
7970 University Avenue N,E,
A, PUBLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENT:
Section 214,12,26 restricts the naximum to eight (80) souare feet in
total free-standing sign area per development.
Public purpose served by this requirenient is to control visual pollution
and excessive use of signs in comnercial areas.
Section 274.12,2E requires a minimum 10 foot setback between free-standing
signs and any property line or driveway.
Public purpose served by tf�is requirement is to allow for unobstructed
visibility along streets and adjoining driveways.
6. STATED HARDSHIP:
"We would like to do one nice sign in place of four smaller ones to give
tenants in rear of building signage and visibilitv from University Ave.
We would also like to use the existing base as one of the qost supports
for the new sign."
C. ADP1I�dISTRATIVE STAFF REUIEW:
The existing sign is 6' x 6' (36 sq. ft.), a four-sided cube, and it is
located at the property line.
Tfie petitioner would like to chanqe the existing sign into a 160 sq. ft.
two-sided sign, with the curb side of tf�e sign to hang over the nrooertv
line by approximately 2,5 feet wfiich would locate tfie sign 5 feet behind
the curb.
The property has at least three street frontages.
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APPEALS COMMISSIOfJ MEETING, OCTOBER t5; T485'" ' ''' PAGE 14
If the Comnission ap�roves tf�e variances, the new sign should be placed
so that it does not overhang the Citv right of way, or if allowed, the
Comnission and City Councit should state that tf�ey approve the sign
encroachment over the boulevard.
Mr. Clark stated tf�e Commissioners fiad a pf�oto showing the cormercial oronerty.
The property consisted of two buildings of which each has multiple tenants--
approximately 12-15 tenants. The present sign was constructed 4-5 years ago
when the Center wds complete and it was improperly located. Even if the
Appeals Commission and City Council deny tfie variance for the new sign, he
would ho�e they would express their desire to relocate the existing sign in
the proper location. He stated Mr. Paschke would like to remove the present
sign and put up a two-sided sign of 160 sq. ft. advertisina other tenants in
the Center, other than just the center itself,
Mr. Paschke stated the present sign which says "University Center" does not
serve the center at all. It locates the propertv but it does nothinq for the
tenants. The sign would only have six names on it for those tenants who have
no visible siqnage already on the building.
Mr. Paschke stated f�e was actually allowed an 80 so. ft. sign per development,
but he chose not to da that. He would rather 6ave one nice ifi0 sq. ft. sign
than to clutter the area with two 80 sq, ft, signs.
MO:ZON BY MR. BETZOLD� SECONDED BY MR. BARNA� TO CZASE TNE PUBLIC HEARING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CYAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARF.D THF, PUBLZC HEARING
CLOSED AT 9:26 P.M.
Mr. Barna stated he could sympathize with developers and tenants do need signs
to advertise. It was expensive to advertise on television or in newspapers.
' The Center is allowed 160 sq. ft, in signage--two free-standing 80 sq. ft.
signs, so he would go along with saying the Center, the total two-building
development, would be allowed one 160 sq, ft, sign equivalent to the two free-
standing 80 sq, ft. signs that are allowed. The placeMent of the sign did not
bother him.
Mr, Plemel stated f�e did not think the distance was any problem, He did not
find the sign that offensive. Some signage is necessary, and he would be in
favor of the variances.
Mr, Betzold stated he did not know the present sign existed until this matter
came up. He had noticed the development and the attractive wall signage but
not the sign identifying the Center. Therefore, he did not know how he would
notice a new sign, 7his is a very busy part of University Ave., and it would
take a pretty big sign to get people's attention. Ne did not want big signs to
catch attention. It was true the whole Center was allowed 160 sq. ft. in signage
but there was no guarantee tf�at if they limit the Center to one siqn and one
deveTopment was soid separately that there wouldn't be a request for a second
sign in addition to the one they are beinq asked to approve at this meetinq.
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 15, 1985 PA6E 15
Mr, Betzold stated that regarding the pronerty line, he did not see anv
reason why it should be at zero feet. He could not go along with either variance
request, the remedy being--let the petitioner fiave two 80 sq, ft. signs.
Ms. Gabel stated she understood the need for signage; however, she did not
agree to the size of the sign, and she was concerned about its placement.
MOTZON BY MR. BARNA, SECONDED BY MR. PLEMEL, TO RECOMMEND TO CISY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF VARZRNCE R£QUESTS PURSUANT TO CNAPTER 214 OF THE FRIDLEY CISY CODE
TO REDUCE TNE MINIMUM DZSTANCE OF A SIGN FROM ANY PROPERTY LZNE FROM 20 FT,
TO 0 FT.; TO 2NCREASE THE MAXIMUM SQUARE FGYJTAGE OF A FREE STAVDZNG SZGN FROC
80 SQ, FT, TO ONE 260 SQ. FT. FREE STANDING SZGN FOR THIS DEVEIAPMENT ON IASS
4� 5� 6� 7 6 8� BLOCK 3� UNNERSITY INDUSTRIAL PARK ADDZTION, SXE SAME BF.ING
7970 UNIVERSITY AVEN[IE N.E,
UPON A VOICB VOTE, BARNA AND PLEMEL VOTING AYE, GABEL AND BETZOLP VOSIP7G NAY,
CNAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION FAILED BECAUSE OF A TIE VOTE.
Ms. Gabel stated tfiis item would go to City Council on Nov. 4.
8. CONSIDERATION OF A VARIANCE REOUEST PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 205 Of THE FRIDL
b.8 FEET TO
. ,
HE SAME BEING HERI E Request y i iam emar e, 0 C er
. ., rl ey, n.
MOTION BY MR. PLEMEL� SECONDED BY MR. BARNA, TO OPEN THE PitBLZC HEARZNG.
UPON A VOZC6 VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE� CHAIRPERSON GAB6L DECLARED THE PUBLIC
NEARING OPEN AT 9:30 P,M,
- Chairperson Gabel read the Administrative Staff Report:
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
A. PUBLIC PURPOS� SERVED BY REf�UIREMENT:
Section 205.07.3D.3a requires a rear yard with a depth of not less than
twenty-five percent (25%) of the lot deuth with not less than twenty-five
(25) feet permitted or more than forty (40) feet required for the main
building.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to provide rear yard space
to be used for green areas which enhance the neighborhood.
B. STATED HARDSHIP:
"We have no basement and we need tf�e additional garage area."
APPEALS COMMISSION MEETIN6, OCTOBER 15, 1985 PAGE 16
C. ADMIWISTR4TIVE STAFF REVIEW:
The petitioner wants to add onto his existing garage to accormnodate two
cars and storage space. The house to tfie east (adjacent) faces east and
has a detacfied garage next to tfiis same common lot line.
If the Board approves tfiis request, staff fias no stipulations to suggest
except to provide tfie normal fiard surface driveway.
Mr. Clark stated the Commissioners had a picture of the property and an aerial
photo. He pointed out that if the garage were detached, it could be placed
closer to the lot line than the petitioner has requested. He stated the garage
would still be almost 17 ft. from the common Jot line between his �ouse and
the neighbor's house to the rear. The fiouse was built 6efore Cheri Lane was
constructed, and his access before Cheri Lane was built was from 7th St.
Cheri Lane was constructed after Highway 100 6ecame 694. Ne stated the
petitioner does not have a basement so tfie 6ardship is real.
Mr. Rernarke stated he wouTd like to build a 24 ft. x 24 ft, attached garage.
It would be constructed so as to match the other end of the house.
Mrs. Remarke stated they are a six-m�nber family and need extra storage space.
Sfie stated all their neighbors have been verv supoortive,
MOTZON BY MR. BARNA, SECONDED BY MR. BETZOLD, TO CLOSE TXE PUBLIC HFARIITG.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, RLL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED TXE PUBLIC
HEARZNG CIASED AS 9:40 P.M,
Mr. Barna stated he had no probiem with the variance.
Mr. Betzold stated there are historical considerations in this case. The
petitioners' lot has been aliered by tf�e City to make some acconmiodations
for Highway 100 turning into 694. The City kind of created the situation.
He had no objection to the variance.
Mr. Plemel and Ms. 6abe1 had no objection to the variance.
MOTION BY MR. BARNA� SEONDED BY MR. BETZOLD, TO APPROVE A VARIANCE REQUF.ST
PURSUANT SO CHAPTER 205 OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE TO REDUCE THE REAR YARD SETBACK
FROM 33.5 FEET TO 16,8 FEET TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A GARAGE ON LOT 1,
B7ACK 2� MORDIX PARK ADDITION� THE SAME BEiNG SIO CXERI LANE N.E.
UPON R VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CXRIRPERSON GABEL AECLARED THE MOTION
CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY.
APPEALS COt�I5SI0N MEETING, OCTOBER 15, 1985_ PAGE 17
A�JOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MR. BARNR� SECONDED BY MR,�PLEMEL� TO ADJOURN TXE MEETING. �UPON A VOICE
�E� RLL VOTING AYE, CNAIRPERSON GAEEL DECLARED THE OCTOBER I5� Z985� APPERLS
C0f7MZSSZON MEETING ADSOURNED AT 9:45 P.M,
Respectfully su�
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Recording Secretary
Name
Norman Brody
Earl Faulkner
Vern.Gunderson
Lori Mortimer
John Vogelbache
Craig E. Dlson
Ted Burandt
Donald & Mary Landry
Dennis Wood
5andra Johnson
Dennis Pittmer
LeRoy Anderson
Joanne Anderson
David Anderson
Marge Remarke
William Remarke
Appeals Corrnnission
October 15, 1985
Address
2233 N. Hamline
Roseville, MN 55113
765 53rd Avenue N.E.
1916 Walsh Lane
Mendota Heights, MN 55118
7920 Zane Avenue
Brooklyn Park, MN 55428
7726 Morgan Avenue
Minneapolis, MN 55401
4309 York Avenue North
Minneapolis, MN 55401
6211 Riverview Terrace
6597 Pierce Street
7571 Alden Way
7571 Alden Way
7579 Alden Way
7581 Alden Way
7581 Alden Way
7581 Alden Way
510 Cheri Lane
510 Cheri Lane
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l�MO FROM: John Flora, Public Works Director
SUBJEC'f: Zoning Code Changes
DATE � CODE; 9/16l85 PW 85-288
Durir� the revieu of Lhe Zoning Code Dy the commissior.s, it was four.d that
Lhe �ragraph dea:ing �ith the variance procedure was inconsister.t with the
per�rayh within Chapter 6 under Lhe Appeals Comc�ission. The Zonir.g Code
use� the tern conmence whereas the Appeals Commission Code used the word
coocleted. It uas the deteeKaination of the Appeals Comsission that the
proper vord should be cormenced, because many projects could not be
cocyleLed within a one year time frame and they felt that as long as the
vork was started tte varisnce xould be ir. effect.
If the Council has a proble� with a completion period, both Chapters should
De changed to s�tisfy the concerns.
There is no Stzte statute that precludes the City from establishing
reviEVal or cobpletion periods. Therefore, if it's desired, the
aFpropriote sections of Lhe Code could be changed Lo read "If, within one
year ai'ter grar.tir.g a variance, the recipient of tt,e variance ha� not
cos,�en�ed Lhe work, as peruitted by the variance, �pd/or the work is not
coc�ieted uithin L�+o vears, then Lhe variance shall become null and voi�
un:e�s a petitior, for ar. extension of time to co¢plete the work has been
grar.ted by the Ccuncil.�
Sir.ce a public henrir� vas had on Lhe ChapLer 205 and Chapter 6 cha:,bes and
the above su�gestion is not a significar.t cC.ange, another public hearir.g on
tnis ite� would not be required.
If the Council desires to incorporate Lhis proced�re, they coulc either
ser.0 it back to Lhe AFpeals Commission for,evieu, or they could a¢er.d
Chapter 6 to incorporate this ch ange at Lhe first readir�.
If the Council should incorporate this change to Chapter 6, they st,ould
nake a sicilar retion to amend Chapter 205.05.5G to incorporate ti,e sac�e
lar.guage durine the 2r.� readir.s.
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