PL 04/09/1986 - 6865PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
City of Fridley
A G E N D A
WEDNESDAY, APRII. 9� 79� 7:3� P•M•
Location: Council Chamber (upper level)
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSSON MINUTES: I�LARCH 19. ]986
PUBLIC HEARSNG: CONSiDERATTON OF A SPEGIAL• USE
PERMIT. SP A86-0�� BY SAMIR AWAISANE:
Per Section 205.07.1, C, 1 of the Fridley City Code,
to allrnr an existing accessory building to become a
second accessory building upon the construction of an
attached garage on Lot 9, Block 7, Carlson's Summit
Manor South, the same being 5096 Hughes Avenue N.E.
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNI�IG COt1�tISSIO�! It[ETIIJG, t1ARCH 19, 19II6
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Gabel called the �tarch 19, 1986, Planning Comr.�ission meeting to
order at 7:34 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
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Members Present: Pat Gabel, Dave Kondrick, Dean Sab , Wayne 4lellan Don Betzold �
Menbers Absent: yLeRoy Oquist, Ci��Fif �—�
Otliers Present: Jim Robinson, Planning Coordinator
Brad Dunham, 6150 Trinity Drive t�.E.
Kevin Cole, 326 - 120th Lane N.l�.
Pat Torgrimson, 5651 Regis Drive �l.E.
John Y.osmas, 6112 Excelsior Blvd.
Joe Laconic, 6644 Arthur St. N.E.
Cindy Braan, 1436 - 66th Ave. N.E.
Fred Bischke, 149D - 66th /;ve. N.E.
" Ken Steinbauer, 6640 Anoka St. N.E.
David Jedinak, 6632 Arthur St. F�.[. (future residence)
Rod & Dorotiiy Brannon, 1622 Innsbruck Parkway W.
Plarvin Asp, 1486 - 66th Ave. N.E.
AP('ROVAL OF FEE3RUARY 26, 19II6, PLANNI�IG COM14I5SION MINUTES:
MO_TIOt7 BY AfR, KONDRICK� SECONDED BY l4R. SABA� 20 APPROVE 2HE FEB. 26� 1986,
PLANNIIIG COMlfZSS70N MItTUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTINC AYE� CNAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOSZON
CiiRRIED UNA�; IMOUSLY.
1. PU6LIC HLARIN6: CO�JSIDERATIO�� OF A SPECiAL US[ PERIIIT, SP /�86-01. BY
Per Section 205.07.1, C, 2 of tfie Fridley City Code, to allow a daycare
facility in a residential district on Lots 18, 19, 20, and 21, alock 3,
Oak 6rove Addition, the same being 6633 Arthur Street t�.E.
MOTION BY MR. SABA� SECOP7DED BY MR. BETZOLD� TO OPEN THE PUBLSC HEARING. '
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AY£, CNRZRPERSOfJ GABEL DECLRRED THE PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN AT 7:36 P.M.
Pir. Robinson stated th4s property was located just north of 66th Ave, ar�d
east of Arthur 5t, in a single family neighborhood. The property was zoned
R-1. The proposal was for a day care facility for up to 65 children. The
petitioner has indicated there would be up to eight staff inembers associated
with the project.
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t1r. Robinson stated that to give a little history on this particular struc-
ture, in 1970 the City Council approved a recommendation from the then
Building Standards-Design Control Cor.imittee to grant a permit for the con-
struction of a day care facility to be run by Anoka County. In 198D a special
use permit was issued for the facility to be used as a home for battered
wonen and their children called The Alexandra House. That facility remained
in operation until 1982 and the house has been vacant ever since. The
petitioner, Mr. Bradley Dunham, had an agreement to purchase the property
from Anoka County contingent upon this special use permit.
Mr. Robinson stated that associated with this project was the addition of
soroe parking spaces. In goin9 through past minutes from the file on The
Alexandra House, they found there was a lot of concern about on street
parking in the area due to the operation of that facility, so the City woulc
like the petitioner to inStall seven parking stalls on the south side of the
building.
Mr. Robinson handed out pictures of the facility which showed the quality of
the building. f1e stated a new driveway would be installed in front of the
building to facilitate the dropping off of children. He stated the building
was originally designed as a day care center so the interior was well suited
for this type of use. Minimal remodeling was necessary.
Mr. Robinson stated Staff was recommending the following stipulations:
l. Petitioner to obtain approval and implement a landscape plan.
2. Petitioner to install a 6 foot high solid wood screening fence
around the back yard and south of the par4:ing area.
3. Any signage to be residential in quality not exceeding eight (8)
square feet.
4. Hours of operation to be from 6 a.m, to 6 p.m. Plonday through
Friday only.
5. Petitioner to work with Engineering Department on storm drainage
needs.
6. Petitioner to submit a performance bond in the amount of
55,000.
�4s. Gabel asked if there was any history on this facility when it was
operated as a day care center that would indicate any particular problems
at that time.
Mr. Robinson stated he did not see anything in the file, other than the
original minutes of the City Council approving the permit to build the
day care facility.
Mr. Dunham stated he wou7d like to preserve the facility pretty much as
residential.
Ms. Gabel asked what kind of provisions would be made for deliveries and
how frequently would deliveries be made.
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PLANNING C011MISSIOIJ 14EETIP�G, MARCH 19 1986 PAGE 3
Mr. Dunham stated there was presently an exterior entrance where detiveries
have been made in the past. He presumed deliveries would probably be made
on a weekly basis.
Mr. Dave Jedinak stated he will soon be living at 6632 Arthur St. which was
across from this facility. He asked if any study had been made on how much
traffic would be added to the area. If they are talking about 65 children,
tliat is a potential for 65 cars coming in and out of there. His reason for
moving to this area was because of the dead-end street and the lack of traffic.
This day care facility really concerned him because it would be adding a
considerable amount of traffic.
Mr. Dunham stated no studies have been made by him on the traffic that would
be generated. He agreed that if they were operating at capacity, that could
possibly be 65 vehicles. He stated there would only be congestion at
certain times, and that was the reason to have it open between 6 a.m. and
6 p,m, on weekdays only. When people are at home in the evenings and on
weekends, it would be quiet. He stated he really did not have an anso+er to
adequately address the traffic question.
Mr, Robinson stated most of the traffic would be between 6-8 a.m, and 4-6 p.m.
Mr. Jedinak stated he was also concerned about people parking on their
residential street. He stated that at the time this facility was a day care
center before, tliere was a school across the street and it didn't have the
affect on the residential area that it is going to have now.
Mr. Dunham stated on-street parking should not be a problem. There was a
considerable amount of driveway for drop-off and also there was 160 ft. of
frontage for cars to park in front of the facility.
Mr. Ken Steinbauer, 6640 Anoka St., stated he lived directly behind the
property. In talking about the potential of 65 children, there seemed to
be a lot of presumptions being made about traffic.and arrival times. He
thought there was going to be higher traffic volumes than just 2 or 3 cars
at a time. He though# 7-10 cars was probably a more accurate figure.
Mr. Steinbauer stated that as �4r. Jedinak had pointed out, when the day care
facility was there before, there was a school across the street; therefore,
he would expect no past concerns. He felt it was going to be different this
time. In talking with the neighbors regarding the Alexandra House, particu-
larly the ones who lived next door to it, there were a number of problems
with traffic and a number of problems with the type of people who were there.
He understood it was a different entity with different purposes, but there
were still some problems. He thought the same type of traffic problems
and the same kind of problems with the increased flow of peop7e were going to
cone about even though this was proposed as a day care facility.
PLANNIflG COMPIISSIOIJ MEETING MARCH 19, 1986 _ PAGE 4
Mr. Steinbauer stated this facility was going to reduce his property value.
Looking at the marketplace today, homes that are next to or right across
from a business were worth about $5-10,000 less than the same type of home
in a completely residential area. He stated he moved into this area because
it was a residential area. ,
Mr. Steinbauer stated that in looking at the increased traffic this facility
would generate into the area, that would increase the risk to the other
children in the neighborhood, In this particular neighborhood, there were
a lot of families witfi cf�ildren between the ages of 3-13. With the increased
traffic between 6-8 a.m., that would not present as much of a problem as
the hours between 4-6 p.m, when neighborhood children are out playing. From
a safety perspective, the risk would be significantly increased with the kind
of volume projected by Mr. Dunham for the facility.
��r. Jedinak stated the facility does look like a residential structure, but
the parking lot and the U-shaped driveway would change the appearance to
look more like a business.
Mr. Robinson stated there would besufficient landscaping to screen the parking
lot. As far as the U-shaped driveway, there were a lot of residential homes
in Fridley with U-shaped driveways in front.
Mr. Marvin Asp, 1486 - 66th Ave., stated he lived around the corner from the
facility. He stated the building does have the appearance of a residential
structure, but it will definitely not be residential with a day care center
in it.
Mr. Joseph Laconic, 6644 Arthur St., stated he was very concerned about the
increased traffic. This was a quiet street now, and he did not want to see
it become a busy street. He stated that because Arthur St. was not a through
street, all the traffic has to go in and out from the same direction.
Mr. Dunham stated maybe it would be possible to post some signage that would
warn motorists of "children at play".
Mr. Robinson asked Mr. Dunham to explain something about the class structure.
Mr. Dunham stated they were really hoping to structure their needs around
the neighborhood and, hopefully, serve some of the neighbors. They are
hoping to operate a"latch key" program for school children before and after
school, and some of the traffic might be from the neighbors who use the
facility. They really won't know their requirements until they actually begin
operation.
�4s. Cindy Braam, 1436 - 66th Ave., stated she was concerned about traffic.
It was all young families with approx. 2-3 children per family. She stated
there aiere no street lights on Arthur St, in this area. She had asked
Councilman Schneider about the possibility of street light, but was told
there was not enough footage for street lighting. When talking about
increased traffic coming and going at 6-8 a.m. and 4-6 p.m., in the winter-
time it was very dark at those times. She would be concerned for the
safety of the children.
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Mr. Fred Bischke, 1490 - b6tii Ave., asked if the City had the ability to
control or limit the number of children who could use the facility, or was
that only in the County's jurisdiction? Sixty-five children seemed like
too many children for this facility.
Mr. Robinson stated the Planning Commission could recanmend to the City
Council the number of children they felt was appropriate for the facility given
its neighborhood setting.
Mr. Dunham stated they must have at least 35 sq. ft. per child, and then
they have to follow certain prograrmning guidelines where they cannot take
into account closet space, bathroom space, etc. There are fire codes, etc.
The building can actually facilitate more tfian 65 cF�ildren, but with the type
of programming they want to do and the number of employees they need to make
the program run well, they have determined the number at 65.
A resident stated that 66th Ave. and Arthur St, form a"V" If peopie drive
very fast around that "V", it could be a dangerous situation. Part of it is
visibility and sometimes it is weather conditions. Sonetimes, after people
drop off their children, they are in a hurry to get to work and they might
drive too fast. Ne had some real concern about the type of access this
facility had. He stated the Planning Commission should be looking at the
whole traffic pattern, not just the number of cars that would be coming in
and out of the facility.
Ms. Pat Torgrimson, 5651 Regis Drive, stated she would be involved in the
operat'on of the day care center, She stated that 65 children was the
absolute maximum, tlost day care centers run at about 70°�, and even at that
70°6, there would be a lot of part-time children, and children arrive at all
different times. The chance of their having 65 children when they open was
very slim. It takes awhile for them to build a reputation. Even then, the
changes of them having 65 children every day was extremely minimal.
Mr. �unham stated that as far as numbers of children, they could not operate
if they were limited to, for example, 40 children.
MOTION BY hlR. KONDRSCK� SECONDF.D BY MR, SRBA� TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARZNG.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTZNG AYE, CHAZRPERSON 6ABEL DECLARED THF, PUBLIC
XEARZNG CIASED AT 8:30 P.M.
�4r, Kondrick asked if they could place a stipulation on the special use
permit for a maximum or minimum number of children.
Ms. Gabel stated they could do that; however, th4s was something the Staff
should check into before the City Council.meeting. She was pretty sure the
County and the State had some jurisdiction over the numbers.
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PLANPJING COMMISSIOfJ FIEETIF�G, MARCH 19, 1936 _ PAGE 6
Mr. Betzold stated he felt the Planning Commission should still have the
authority to recormend a smaller program with a smaller amount of children,
even though the State sets the policy and the County licenses the facility.
Mr. Saba stated he had a lot of concerns about a day care center for 65
children in a residential area. He had no problem with a day care center in
a residential area, but he did have a problem with a maximum of 65 children.
He stated that traffic was also a valid concern.
Mr. Kondrick agreed. He stated that if Arthur St. was a through street,
it would be a lot more accomnodating for traffic, This was a very nice
looking building, but they should be careful about how many people they allow
in the facility.
Mr. Wellan stated he was concerned about traffic because this was a dead-end
street. Traffic can only come in and out from one way. Granted, the day care
facility was there before, but he was also bothered by the high number of
children.
Mr. Betzold stated his sister lived in this neighborhood with three small
children, so he could understand the concerns expressed by the neighbors.
A day care facility was a permitted use for this property and a use they
should encourage in residential areas. They should probably put some cap on
the number of children so the number could not be increased. lie would also
recommend an annual review to see hoo-r the traffic flow situation was working.
P1s. Gabel stated she agreed with the other canmissioners. She did not know
how they could determine what the "cap" should be. She certainly would not
want it over 65, because that would generate a lot of traffic. She did not
know if it should be less, because she did not know how the figures worked
out based on the County's requirements. Legally, she did not see how the
Planning Commission could deny this special use permit request; however, they
could put some stipulations on it.
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR. BETZOLD� 21� RECOMMEND TD CITY COUNCIL
TNE APPROVAL OF SPECZAL USE PERMIT REQUEST, SP N86-01, BY BRADLEY DUNHAM,
PER SECTION 205.07,1� C� 2 OF TXE FRIDLEY CITY CODE TO RLLOW A DAY CRRE
FACILISY IN A RESIDENTIAL DZSTRICT ON LOTS 18� Z9� 20 AND 21� BLOCK 3, OAK
GROVE ADDITION� THE SAME BEING 6633 ARTHUR STREET N.E,� WZTN THE FOLLOWING
STIP ULATIONS :
1. PETITIONER TO OBTAZN APPROVAL AND IMPLEMENS A LANASCAPE PLRN.
2. PETITZONER TO INSTALL A SZX FOOT HZGH SOLID WOOD SCREENZNG
FENCE AROUND TXE BACK YARD AND SOUTH OF THE PARKIr1G AREA.
3. ANY SIGNAGE TO BE RESIDENTIAL ZN QUALITY NOT EXCEEDING
EIGHT (8) SQUARE FEET.
4, HOURS OF OPERATION 2l� BE FROM 6 A.M. TO 6 P.M. MONDAY
THROUGH FRIDAY.
5, PETITIONER TO WORK WZTH ENGINEERING DEPT. ON STORM DRAINAGE NEEDS.
6. PETZTIONER TO SUBMIT A PERFORMANCE BOND ZN THE AMOUNT OF $5�000.
7. THE MAXIMUM NUhIDER OF CHILDREN RLLOWED TO BE 45.
8. AN RNNUAL REVZEW OF THE SPECIRL USE PERMIT BY THE PLANNZNG COMMZSSION.
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Ms. Gabel stated she was a little uncomfortable with the Planning Cor�mission
determining a number for the simple reason that they do not know anything
about this day care operation and what it takes to have a successful operation.
Mr, Betzold stated that by recortmending a number, they are forciPg the
issue of numbers so the petitioner will have more information for the
City Council's review.
Mr. Saba stated that because of the traffic concern, he could not eve�
agree with 45 as a maximum number.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� KONDRICK� GABEL� AND BETZOLD VOTING AYE� SABA AND WELLAN
VOTZNG NAY� CHAZRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOSIOfJ CARRZED BY R VOTE OF 3^2.
MOTZON BY MR. BETZOLD� SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK� TO RECOMMEND TO CZTY COUNCIL
THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDER BOTH STREET LIGHTING AND SIGNAGE FOR THIS
PRRTSCULAR NEZGHBORHOOD TXRS WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITX TXE OPERATION OF THE
DAY CARE FACZLITY.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� BETZOLD� KONDRICK� AND GABEL VOTING AYE� SABA AND WELLAN
VOTING NAY� CNAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOT'ION CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 3-2.
Ms. Gabel stated this item would go to City Council on April 7.
2. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATIO�J OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #86-02, BY
n orTOni rii .
er Section 205.15.1, C, 5 of the Fridley City Code to allov� a motor vehicle
fuel and oil dispensing service, and per Section 205.15.1, C, 6 of the
Fridley City Code to allow a motor vehicle wash establishment on all that
part of Lot 12, Auditor's Subdivision No. 155, which lies Easterly of a
line parallel with and distant 351 feet Westerly from the East line of
Section 23, T-30, R-24, Anoka County, Minnesota, and the South 20 feet of
that part of Lot 11, Auditor's Subdivision No. 155, which lies Easterly
of a line parallel with and distant 351 feet Westerly from the East line of
Section 23, T-30, R-24, Anoka County, Minnesota, except that part thereof
taken for Highway, the same being 5300 Central Avenue IJ.E.
MOTION BY MR. SRBR� SECONDED BY MR. WELLAN� Tp OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE, CNAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARZNG OPEN AT 8:47 P.M.
Mr. Robinson staied the zoning was C-3, and the surrounding properties were
also zoned C-3.
Mr, Robinson stated the reason the petitioner was app7ying for a special use
permit was because of bad soi] conditions.The present building was continually
settling causing structural prablems. The petitioner planned to remove the
present structure, but in doing so has to meet today's codes. Four variances
were heard by the Appeals Corrmission on March 11, and the Appeals Comnission
made some specific recommendations regarding those variances.
PLAN�ING COPIMISSION MEETING, MARCH 19, 1986 PAGE 8
D1r. Robinson stated the layout was quite different from the old layout in
that the building and the pumps would be situated at an angle on the
property in order to improve traffic flow. Also to improve traffic flow,
they have closed the existing easterly driveway onto 53rd Ave. The City
has also asked for green space and landscaping with automatic sprinkling
in order to bring the property up to code as much as possible.
Mr. Robinson stated the Appeals Commission decided the addition of the car
wash added to the variances for tfie site so they recommended sane reduction
in the rear yard setback and the front yard variances to allow for more
green space on 53rd Ave. The petitioner has revised the drawings to meet
these requirements with the car wash still included.
t4r. Robinson stated Staff was recommending the following stipulations:
1. Petitioner to obtain approval and implement a landscape plan.
2. Petitioner to obtain approval and implement a storm drainage plan.
3. Petitioner to submit a performance bond to cover the site
improvements.
4. Protective measures to be implemented to mitigate any erosion
or destabilization of surrounding property.
5. An approved utility easement across the northerly portion of the
property to be granted to the City.
Mr. Betzold stated the first variance regarding the size of the lot had to
be granted because if it was not, nothing could be built on the lot. It
was possible to construct the building without any other variances, but the
petitioner wanted the building constructed at an angle for visibility of
the 9asoline pumps from the building. The Appeals Comnission expressed some
concern about overbuilding on the lot, so they tried to reduce the variances
because they thought a smaller building would be more appropriate. They
tried to avoid the car wash issue.
Mr. John Kosmas, KK Design, stated the car wash would be a full-service,
roll-over car wash. It was a convenience-type service connected with the
sale of gas. It would not be promoted as a single source business.
Ms. Gabel asked about stacking space to get into the car wash.
I4r. Robinson stated he did not think Q Petroleum was anticipating a heavy
use of the car wash. There seemed to be enough stacking room for four cars
within the driveway itself.
Ms. Gabel stated she shared the same concern as the Appeals Comnission in that
this seemed like a good deal of overbuilding on that lot.
Mr. Kosmas stated one of the objectives his firm had in serving Q Petroleum
was to loosen up the whole site. To him, it appeared more congested now
than it would with the new proposal. The new proposal would open the site
up for more visibility.
PLANNII�G COMMISSIO�d MEETIPI6 MARCH 19 1986 PRGE 9
11r. Robinson stated the weriances seemed like an extreme request because of the
zoning, C-3. Actua'lly, if the property was zoned C-1 or C-2, there would be no
need for any variances because setbacks and lot area would not be nearly as severe.
Mr. Kosmas stated that in conversations with Q Petroleum, he gav,e them some
alternatives: (1) maximize back to retail; (2) go with a car wash of a
little different size which aio�ild allow them to increase the retail; (3) go
with a car wash in ttiis combination with a dryer. Q Petroleum preferred the
car wash with a dryer and the scale of the retail was reduced to accommodate it,
Mr. Rod Brannon stated he owned the car wash imnediately to the north. He
stated he was not opposed to the variances that allowed the rebuilcling of what
was there now, but he was opposed to the addition of a car wash to that building
which was rtrore than they had before.
Mr. Brannon stated that approximately one year ago, four variances were
approved by the City to build the Pickwick building, He had expressed concern
that the City was taking a building twice the size of his building and a lot
half the size of his lot and granting a variance to move that building from
40 ft. to 5 ft, from his property line. tJow the Pick�aick building sits right
on his property line and virtually screens his entire business. He was supposed
to liave ��orked with the owner and the City on the landscaping, but to this day
he has not been contacted by eitlier party. Eight pyramidal arborvitae wei•e
put in u!iicn ru�.� :zke up another 15 ft. and screen more of his property, and
there was an oversized dumpster pad. So, nine months out of the year, his
business was not visible from 53rd Ave. He stated his business was down 25%.
F�e stated this might not be germaine to this discussion, but he has seen o�hat
four variances the City approved has done to his business. He stated he would
fight this on the basis that city ordinances were for the protection of every-
body and to take into consideration the rigf�ts of everybody. The City has to
ask itself: Is this proposal in the best interest of all its neighborst From
his standpoint, the answer was "no".
Ms. Gabel stated that regarding t!ie landscaping, Staff was going to have to
get together with Nr. Brannon to work somethdng out. She remembered the
stipulatiorrs that were made on those variances, and there should be some
follow-up on theri.
ttis. Dorothy Brannon stated she thought the car wash was going to add to the
traffic. She was sure Q Petroleun wanted the car wash to attract business.
If the car wash was successful, she did not think there was adequate stacking
room for it. If it was not successful, then why add a car wash? When the
original Q Petroleum building was constructed, there o+ere not a lot of rules
and regulations on landscaping. Now the City had an opportunity to upgrade
the landscaping, and she did not see the City doing that by allowing so many
variances which, in turn� then allows the car wash �hich cor�etes with a
business already established in the immediate area. She agreed that this
proposai would be an impravenent over +�xat was there now, and there was a need
ta upgrade this corr�er. She was .just not sure that this corner could support
more traffic, and she felt the lot was already overbuilt. With a car wash,
there was going to be a lot more traffic in and out.
PLNtJNING COP4IISSION FIEETING, PiARCN 19, 1986 PAGE 10
MOTION BY MR. XONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR, G7ELLAN� SO CLASE THE PUBLIC HEARZNG.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE� CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC
NEARING CZASED AT 9:30 P.M.
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MOTION BY MR, KONDRICK� SECOt7DED BY MR. WELLAN� TO RECO1�fMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF SPECZAL USE PERNZT REQUEST��SP i186-02� BY Q PETROLEUM� pER
SECTZON 205.15,1� C, 5 OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE 4Yl ALLOW A MOTOR VEHICLE
FUF,L A77D OIL DISPENSZI7G SERVICE AND PER SECTZON 205,I5,1� C� 6 OF THE FRIDLEI'
CZTY CODE TO ALZAYI A MOTOR VEXICLE WASH ESTABLISXMENT� WITH TNE FOLLOk'ING
STIPULATI077S i
1. PETITIONER TO OBTAZN APPROVAL AND ZMPLEMENT A LANASCAPE PLAN.
2. PETITIONER TO OBSAIN APPROVAL AND IMPLEMENT A STORN DRAINAGE PLRN. �
3. PETITIONER TO SCBMIT A PERFORMANCE BOND TO COVER THE SITE
IMPROVEMENTS.
4. PROTECSIVE MEASURES TO BE IMPLEMENTED TO MITIGRTE ANY EROSZON
OR DE:iTRBILIZATION OF SUkROUfTDING PROPERTY.
5. AIJ APPROVED UTZLITY EASEMENT ACROSS THE NORTHERLY PORTZON OF
TNE PROPERTY TO BE GRANTED TO THE CZTY,
6. PETITIONER TO WORK WITH CITY STAFF ON Tf1E LOCATZON OF THF
DUMPSTER.
Pis. Gabel stated that as far as traffic, there has been a lot of traffic in
the past, and there will be a lot of traffic in the future. She was in favor
of tearing down the old structure and putting up a new one and cleaning up
the area. She did not like the idea of the addition of the car wash because
of the potential for additional traffic.
Mr. Saba stated he felt the car wash was going to be a big draai to the
business. and he was opposed to the car wash because of the extra traffic
tfiat would be generated because of it.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� KONDRICK AND 47ELLAN VOTING AYE� BET20LD� SABR� AND CABEL
VOTING NAY� CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION FAILED.
740TION BY MR. BET20LD� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO RECOMMEND TO CZTY COUtJCIL
APPROVAL OF SPECIAL USE PERMZT RE[1UEST� SP N86-02� BY Q PETROLEUtd� PER
SECTION 205.15.1� C� 5 OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE TO ALIAW R MOTOR VEHICLE
FUEL AR'D OIL DISPENSING SERVICE ON RLL THAT PART OF LOT 22� AUDZTOR'S
SUADIVZSION NO. 155� WHICH LIES EASTERLY OF A LINE PARALLEL WZTH AND
DZSTANT 351 FEET WESTERLY FROld TNE EASS LINE OF SECTION 23� T-30� R-24�
ANOKA COUNTY� MINNESOTA� AND THE SOUTH 20 FEET OF THAT PART OF ZAT 21�
AUDITOR'S SUBDIVIS_TON N0. 555� Wf:ICX LIES EASTERLY OF A LZNE PARALLEL WSTH
AND DZSTAIJT 35I FEET WESTERLY FROM THE EAST LINE OF SECTION 23� T-30� R-24�
ANOKA COUNTY� MINNESOTA� EXCEPT THAT PART THEREOF TAKEP7 FOR HIGHWAY� THE
SAME BEING 5300 CENTRAL AVEC7UE N,E.� WZ'_"H THE FOLIAWING STIPULATZONS:
1. PETZTZONER TO OBTAZN APPROVAL AND ZMPLEMENT A LANDSCAPE PZAN.
2. PETZTZONER TO OB2AIN APPROVAL AND ZMPLEMENT A STORN DRAZIJAGE PLAN.
3. PETITIONER TO SUBMZT A PERFORMANCE BOND TO COVER SITE IMPROVEMENTS.
4. PROTECTZVE MEASURES TO BE IMPLEMENTED TO MITIGATE RNY EROS702d
OR DESTABILIZATION OF SURROUNDING PROPF,RTY.
PLANNI��G COP111ISSION MEETI�lG, MARCH 19, 1986 PAGE il
5. AN AppROVED UTILISY EASEMEt7T ACROSS.TNE NORTFIERLY PORTZON
OF THE PROPERTY TO BE GI2ANSED TO THE CITY.
6. PETITIONER TD WORK WITH CITY STAFF ON THE ZACATZON OF THE
DUMPSTER. �
UPON A VOSCE VOTE, BETZOLD� SABA� AND GRBEL VOTZNG AYE, KONDRICK AND WELLAN
VOTZNG NAY� CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 3-2.
MOTION BY MR, BETZOLD� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCZL
DENZAL OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUEST� SP �186-02� BY p PETROLEUM� PER
SECT701! 205,ZS.Z� C� 6 OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE TO RLZAW A MOTOR VEHICLE
WASH ESTABLZSXMENT ON ALL THAT PART OF LOT 22� AUDITOR'S SI7BDSVISION NO. 155�
WHICH LIES EASSERLY OF R LINE PRRALLEL WZTX AND DZSTANT 351 FEET WESTERLY
OF A LINE APRALLEL WITH RfJD DISTAI�TT 351 FEES WESTERLY FROM THE ERST LZPIE OF
SECTION 23� T-30� R-24� ANOKA COUNSY� MINNESOTA� AND THE SOUTH 20 F£ET OF
THAT PART OF LOT 11� RUDZTOR'S SUBDIVISION NO. 155� WNZCH LIES EASTERLY OF
A LZNE PARALLEL WITX ANL DZSTANT 351 FEET WESTERLY FROf9 TNE EAST LZNE OF
SECTZON 23� P-30� R-24� ANOKA COUNTY� MINNESOTA� EXCEPT THAT PART TNEREOF
TAKEN FOR XIGHWAY� THE SAME HEING 5300 CENTRAL AVENUE N,E.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� BETZOLD, SABA� AND GABEL VOTING AYE� KONDRICK AIJD WELLAN
VOTZNG NAY, CHRIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRZED BY A VOTE OF 3-2.
Ms. Gabel clarified for the petitioner that the car wash was a permitted use
with a special use permit; however, there were comnissioners who felt the
car wash was a safety hazard because of traffic concerns.
t�ls. Gabel stated this item would go to City Council on April 7.
3. RECEIUE I�ARCH 4, 1986, ENERGY PROJECT COt1hiITTEE MIP�UTES:
MOTZON BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MR, KONDRICK, TO RECEIVE TXE MARCH 4, 2986,
ENERGY PROJECT COMMISTEE MZNUTES.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE� CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY,
4. RECEIUE M.aRCH 71, 1986, APPEALS C0�4dISSIOt� MIPJUTES:
MOTION BY MR, BETZOLD� SECONDED BY MR. KONDRZCK� TO RECEIVE THE MAR, 11� 1986,
APPEAIS COMMISSION MINUSES.
UPON R VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON GABEL DECLARED THE MOTI0IJ
CRRRZED UNANZMOUSLY.
� .,
PLANNIPlG COt4MI55I0N PiEETIPIG, HARCH 19, 1986 PAGE 12
ADJOURNMENT:
MO:ZON BY MR. BETZOLD� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO ADJDUR'V THE MEETING. UPON A
VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE� CXAIRPERSGON GABEL DECLARED TNE MARCH I9� 1986�
PLIWNING COMMISSION MEESING ADJOURNED AT 9:55 P,M. '
Respectfully submi ted,
�
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Ly Saba
Recording Secretary
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PUBLIC HEARING
BEFORE THE
PLANNIN6 COMMISSION
Notice is hereby given tfiat there will be a Public Hearing of the Planning
Commission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431 University Avenue
Northeast o� Wednesday, pPril 9, 1986 , in the Courtcil Cham6er at 7:3�
p.m, for the purpose of:
Consideration of a Special Use Permit, SP #86-03,
by Samir Awaijane, per Section 205.07.1, C, 1 of
the Fridley City Code, to allow an existing
accessory huilding to become a second accessory
building upon the construction of an attached
garage on Lot 9, Slock 7, Carlson's Summit �lanor
South, the same being 5096 Hughes Avenue N.E.
Any and all persons desiring to be heard shall be given an opportunity at the
above stated time and place,
PATRICIA GABEL
CHAIRWOMAN
PLANNING COMMISSION
Publish: March 24, 1986
March 31, 1986
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SP #86-03
Samir Awaijane
5096 Hughes Avenue N.E.
Dennis E. Nihart
5061 Hughes Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421-
Donald W. Soderlind
5073 Hughes Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
James R. Bodick
5085 Hughes Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
Scot T. Rolek
5097 Nughes Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
Maurice Blanch
5109 Hughes Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
Anthony J. Mack
5121 Hughes Avenue N.E.
�ridley, MN 55421
Larry J. Ernster
5133 Hughes Avenue N.E.
fridley, MN 55421
James M. Trafas
5096 Clearview Lane N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
Richard J, Ziesmer
5084 Clearview Lane N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
Raymond S. Smith
5072 Clearview Lane N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
William J. Bush
5060 Hughes Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
Planning 3/21/86 l�
Council
MAILING LIST
Melvin E. Aaber9
5072 Hughes Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
LuWayne �. Petterson
5084 Hughes Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
Samir Awaijane
5096 Hughes Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
Lloyd W. Fitzer
5108 Hughes Avenue N,E.
Fridley, MN 55421
John A. Gacek
5120 Hughes Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
Melvin J. Eisenschenk
5132 Hughes Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
Fullerton Metal
5170 Main Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
Riskind-An Partners �{1.v��7eC�i 3'3�/�IL
350 East Dundee Road
Wheeling, IL 60090
Dealers Manufacturing Co.
5130 Main Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55421
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CITY OF FRI�LEY
HOUSIPJG W REDEVELOPPIENT AUTHORITY
MEETING
PIARCH 13, 1986
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Cornmers called tlie March 13, 1986, Housing & Redevelopment Authority
meeting to order at 7:11 p.m,
ROLL CALL:
Mer,ibers Present: Larry Conuners, Elmars Prieditis, Virginia Schnabel
Menbers Absent: Duane Prairie, Walter Rasmussen
Otliers Present: Nasim Qureshi, HRA Director
Jim Robinson, Planning Coordinator
Rick Pribyl, City Finance Director
Dave Piewman, NRA Attorney
Jim Casserly, Miller � Schroeder
Ray Stolquist, 5624 Matterhorn Dr.
Joel Young, 5695 Quincy St. I�.E.
Coey Hinear, 1291 Gardena Ave.
Hel Stolquist, 5624 Matterhorn Dr.
David �lolda, Vantage Companies, aloomington
Matthew Plicoll, Vantage Companies, "
Paul Dahlberg, Uantage Cor�panies, "
APPROVAL OF �ANUARY 9, 1986, HOUSI��G & REDEVELOP�1E��T AUTHORITY MItlUTES:
MO_TION BY 145. SCHNABEL� SECONDED BY MR, PRZEDITZS� TO APPROVE THE JAN. 9� 5986�
XOUSZNG 6 REDEVELOPMENT AUTXORITY MINUTES.
Ms. Scfinabel stated slie would like to make the following changes on page 8 of
the minutes:
paragraph 2, add the following words at the end of the sentence: (to pay
a sub-tenant of a tenant of tfie owners of the condemned property).
6th para9raph from the bottom, middle line, change "tenant" to "sub-tenant"
UPON A VOSCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHRIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE MINUTES
APPROVED AS AMENDED.
HOUSING & REUEVELOPIIEI�T AUTHORITY t4EETING, �1ARCN 13 1986 PAGE 2 "
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1. PRESEIdTATIOfJ OF APPRECIATION PLAQUE FOR CAROLY�� SVENDSEN:
Mr. Con�ners stated that at this time they had planned to present an
appreciation plaque to Ms. Svendsen who served on the HRA for over ten
years before moving to P�orthfield, Minnesota. Apparently, because of
the weather, she was unable to attend the meeting. ,
MOTZON BY MR. PRIEDITIS� SECONDED BY MS. SCHNABEL� TO TABLE THIS ITEM
UNTZL A MEETING WNEN MS. SVENDSEN COULD BE PRESENT.
UPON A VDICE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE� CHRIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE
MOTZON CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY.
2. REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE FROM VANTAGE COI1PANIES:
14r. Comers stated that in addition to the information in the agenda, the
coramissioners had received a copy of a proposed contract for developnent,
one beta�een the HRA and Vanta9e Companies and, for informational purposes,
orie between the City of Fridley and Vantage Conpanies.
Mr. Qureshi stated tl�at Vantage Companies has requested the City Council
to rezonc� a piece of property located north of 81st Ave. and west of
University Ave. Presently, a portion of tlie property is zoned C-2 and the
rest M-2. Tlie request is to rezone to C-3 and C-2. There has already been
a liearing and the first reading of the ordinance on the rezoning. The hope
was that at the next City Council meeting on March 17, the second reading
of the ordinance would be held and the property rezoned.
Mr. Qureshi stated Vantage Companies' proposal was to develop at least the
first two phases. Phase 1 was tfie development of the 100,000 sq. ft. Wholesale
Club, and then phase 2 was 70-75,000 sq. ft. of retail. Vantage Companies
has indicated there is a severe soil problem on the site and have estimated
a cost of 51,750,000 in soil correction. What has been basically worked out
is that if Vantage Companies neets certain requirements and does build a
100,00U sq, ft. building in phase 1, if the HRA approves, then the HRA would be
providing assistance of $100,000 in soil correction costs. If Vantage Com-
panies 6uilds an additional building in phase 2, the HRA would be providing
another b50,000 worth of assistance for a potential total of �y150,000. A
proposed agreement has been prepared that provided that under certain condi-
tions, the HRA would provide this assistance.
Mr. Qureshi stated representatives from Vantage Companies were in the audience.
He showed the HRA the general concept of the development that has been submitted
by Vantage to the City. He stated tf�eir plans were to complete phase 1 this
year.
Mr. Corrmers stated it was his understanding they were ha�dling this project
differently than in the past.
HDUSI��G & REUEVELOPttENT AUTNORITY 14EETIN�, �4ARCN 13, 19II6 PAGE 3
Mr. Qureshi stated that was correct. In tfie past they have gotten control
of the property and essentially at the same tirne turned it over to the
developers, so it was a matter of deeding back and forth. It was his under-
standing that it was tfle preference of the legal representative pf Vantage
Conpanies to not use that method, 14r. Newman and Vantage's legal representative
have worked everything out satisfactorily.
Mr. Cortmers stated that, as he understood it, rather than the NRA taking title
and upon completion of the project when they would normally get the title
back, in this case tfie HRA's obligation would become payable at the time the
building was substantially complete. He stated the discussion at the last
meeting witli F1r. Paschke and ttr. Dave kiarris related to the issuance of the
certificate of occupancy, so the question was whether or not the HRA should
meet tfieir obligations at the time the certificate of occupancy was issued.
Mr. Harris liad proposed that timeframe was too long for developers to wait for
the assistance.
Mr, fJewman stated it was his understanding that there were two certificates
of occupancy--one was a temporary certificate which allowed the business to
occupy on a temporary basis, and the other was the final certificate of occul
pancy which can take up to an additional year to ob�ain. This agreement was
drafted with the understanding that the payment would be made when the temporary
certificate of occupancy was issued.
t1r. Conmers stated it should be called the temporary certificate of occupancy
in the agreement in order to prevent any confusion.
Mr. Qureshi stated that if everything works out, the certificate of temporary
occupancy should be issued in the month of October.
Mr, Conmers stated that, as he understood it, the assistance from the HRA was
based on the presentation that there was a requirement of over $1 million in
soil correction.
Mr, Qureshi stated that was correct. Vantage Companies would have to provide
the HRA with documentation'that the soil correction was over $1,000,000. The
HRA's total assistance would be $150,000, which was about 15� of the total cost.
Mr. t4attllew Nicoll stated he was the General ttanager and Executive Vice President
of the Mpls. Divis9on of Uantage Companies. He stated they are one of the
larger developers in the couniry. They have been in business for 26 years,
have 15 separate operating offices in various locations in the United States.
Their home base was in Dallas. They have been in Mpls. for 8-8'2 years and
have developed in Plymouth, Eden Prairie, and Bloomington.
Ms. Schnabel stated she had a concern about the water in that area and what
happens with the water when the deve7opment takes place, especially any impact
it might have on 5pringbrook Nature Center. She also wondered what the City
had found out from the environmental assessment worksheet.
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HOUSI��G & RED[VELOPMENT AUTHORITY ItEE7IP�G, MARCH 13, 1986 PAGE 4
�4r. Qureshi stated Vantage Companies was going to provide subsurface drainage
on their property which wiTl go to anather drainage system the City has. Also,
on 81st the City is proposing a subsurface drainage system that will keep the
water table low. It was a7so his understanding that Vantage Companies would
be bringing in some good soil and actually try to raise the existing level
of the ground so there is at least 4 ft. or more difference from where the
water table is right now.
P4r. Robinson stated the project did not actually require a formal environ-
mental assessment worksheet, but the City did ask Vantage to complete one
and submit it for informal review. The City submitted that informal environ-
mental assessment worksheet to the Environmental Quality Board and the
Departrnent of PJatural Resources for their general comments, but there were
no major concerns. There were a few general comments about water run-off,
and the City feels that can be handled adequately by the engineering staff.
Mr. Quresf�i stated that if the HRA feels the agreement was satisfactory,
action needed by the HRA was to approve the resolution which authorized the
Chairperson and himself to execute the agreement conditioned upon certain
things that wil) sti71 have to be worked out with Vantage Companies between
now and when the City Council completes the rezoning. One of the concerns
sliown from the beginning was the Tandscaping and the exterior quality of the
facilities.
FfOSZON BY MS, SCHNABEL� SECONDED BY MR. PRIEDITIS� TO APPROVE RESOLUTION
NO. HRA 1 1986 AUTNORIZZNG EXECUTZON OF TNE CONTRACT FOR PRIVATE DEVEIAP-
MET7T BETWEEN THE HRA RND VANTAGE COl�PANIES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE�CHAIRPERSON COM1dER5 DECI,ARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3. RESIDENTIAL RELOCATION CLAIM FOR PETER LIND RUKES. 5747 CENTRAL AV[IdUE
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Mr. Robinson stated that, as recommended at the last meeting, Staff did
check the residence to see if it was a legal apartment. fie stated there
were some technical viotations; but in researching with the Washington D.C.
office, the technical violations were no reason to disallow the relocation
and that the HRA was obligated to pay the relocation costs.
MOTION BY MR. PRIEDITIS� SECONDED BY M5, SCHNABEL� TO APPROVE RESIbENTIAL
RELOCATION EXPENSES SN TXE RMOUNT OF $4�450 2t� PETEP. LZND RUKES�-5747 CENTRAL
AVENUE N.E.
UPON A VOSCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CNAZRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED TNE MOTIOIJ
CARRIED UNANZMDUSLY,
° HOUSIN6 & REUEVELOPMENT AUTNORITY MEETIPIG, MARCH 13, 1986 PAGE 5
MOTZON BY MS. SCHNABEi,� SECOVLED BY MR. PRIEDITZS� TO APPROVE RESOLUTION
NO. HRA� Z 1986 AUTHORIZING THE SALE AND REMOVAL OF TNE STRUCTURES AT
5747 CENTRAL AVENUE N,E.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOSING RYE� CHRIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THS
MOTION CRRRIED UNANIMOUSLY, �
4. REPORT 0�� THE FEES FOR THE 55,600,000 CAPITAL APPRECIATION BOND AP�D
Mr. Qureshi stated the HRA had asked Staff to provide them with information
on the fees they have paid on both of tliese instruments. The memo from
�1r. Pribyl to Mr. Qureshi gave the HRA that information and some of the back-
ground on it. He stated Pir. Casserly from Miller & Schroeder was also at
the meeting to answer questions.
Mr. Commers stated he had had two questions, one was on what the actual
expenses were, and the other was related to the transaction btween the HRA
and Woodbridge Properties. He stated maybe the HRA should ask the Staff to
develop some criteria regarding the costs and the negotiations that went into
it, When they originally looked at the agreement with Woodbridge, they had
an agreement that did not necessarily talk about the HRA paying all Wood-
bridge's expenses. The agreement the HRA had before them at the December
meeting did not provide for that. There were some drafts that apparently
included that, but at the closing when it came time fur the contract to be
signed, the HRA ended up with the Benson-t�ialkerson fee of g100,000, Miller &
Scliroeder's �84,000 fee, and some other expenses Mr. Commers did not think
were quite fair, Ne thought it would be to the Staff's advantage to have
sorae criteria and guidelines to follow in negotiating a contract. He did
not think they should have contracts negotiated open-ended, They should know
ahead �f time if they are going to be paying anybody else'S expenses,
�4r. Qureshi stated that, as the Commissioners knew, it was a very unusual
instrument they came up with on this property. Ne also did not see, at least
in the foreseeable future, another situation where they would use this kind
of instrument and be under the same tine restraints as this. He stated the
nunbers by ther�iselves did not look very good, but in Tooking at the total
picture, the HRA actually came out quite well.
Mr. Qureshi stated he had no problem with anything the HRA felt was appropriate.
Because of the situation and time co�straints, maybe tVie Staff did not give
the HRA the quality of information they should have; however, if the same
situation arose in the future, Staff would attempt to be more concerned and
conscious of the costs and make the HRA aware of all the costs.
Mr. Commers stated that if thes� things had been reasonably explained to
the HRA, they might not have had a problem. There were a lot of reasonable
explanations for the way things were done, but he did not think it was a good
procedure, and they should not proceed in this way in the future.
HOUSI��G & REDEVELOPP1ENT AUTHORITY MEETING, MARCH 13 1986 PA6E 6 `
5. CO�ISIDERATI
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MOTION BY MR. PRIEDZTIS, SECONDED BY MS. SCHNABEL� TO APPROVE RESOLUTION
NO. HRrl 3 2986 DESZGNATING OFFZCIAL DEPOSITORZES FOR TNE FRIDLEY HOUSZNG
6 REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY AT THE FRIDLEY STRTE BANK,
UPON A VPICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CNAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE
MOTZON CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY,
6. L01lSIDERATIOPJ OF APPROVAL OF AN AGREEHENT BETWEE�� THE fRIDLEY HOUSING E�
MOTION BY MS, SCXNABEL� SECONBED BY MR. PRIEDITIS� TO APPROVE AN AGREEMENT
BETWEEN THE FRI➢LEY HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTNORZTY AND GERALD JOHNSON
AND THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN TNE FRIDLEY HOUSZNG 6 REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORZTY
AND WDODBRIDGE PROPERTIES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRZED UNANZMOUSLY,
7. CHECK REGISTER:
MOTION BY MR, PRIEDITZS� SECONDED BY MS. SCHNABEL� TO APPROVE THE CNECK
REGISTER AS PRESENTED.
UPON A VDICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHASRPERSON COMME725 DECLARED THE MOTZON
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
8. OTfIER BUSINESS:
Mr. Commers stated the Commissioners had received a copy of a March 7
memo from the ormers who are requesting that the HRA purchase tfieir property
which was near the Saliterman property on Old Central.
P4r, Qurish stated this was a little over an acre in size. There was a house
on the property but it was removed because of the structural condition.
He was asking for some input from the HRA as to whether they should pursue
the acquisition of this property at this time.
The NRA received the letter and information into the record but agreed to
take no action at this time.
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HOUSII�G & REDEVELOPMEI4T AUTHORITY �4EETING, MARCH 13 1986 PAGE 7
ADJOUR(lMENT :
MOTION BY MR. PRIEDZTIS� SECONDED BY MS. SCNNABEL, TO AA70URN THE MEETING.
UPON A VOZCE V02E� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON CO:�SMERS DECLARED THE'MARCH 13� 1986�
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETIt�G ADJOURNED AT 9:00 P.M.
Respectfully sub itted,
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:YL
'�n Saba
Recording Secretary
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION
MEETING
MARCH 25, 1986
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Wellan called the March 25, 1986, Environmental Quality
Commission meeting to order at 7:37 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Wayne Wellan, Tom Gronlund, Bruce Peterson, Richard Svanda
Members Absent: Maynard Nielsen
Others Present: Myra Gibson, Planning Assistant
AYPROVAL OF JANUARY 15, 1986, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mt. Svanda, seconded by Mz. GTOnlund, to approve the January 15,
1986, Environmental Quality Commission minutes.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON WELLAN DECLARED THE MINUTES
APPROVED AS WRITTEN.
1. UPDATE ON CURBSIDE RECYCLING
Ms. Gibson indicated that Mr. Beermann of Beermann Services has been
keeping the City up-to-date on their pick up rates. Figures will be
forwarded to the commission members to keep them informed.
Ms. Gibson will be turning in the tonnage amounts at the end of the
month for the $4.00 per ton rebate. Ms. Gibson also noted that pick
up rates for the curbside recycling program have increased somewhat
over the pick up rates for the winter months.
Mr. Wellan asked if Mr. Beermann was still confident about the program.
Ms. Gibson noted that she thouRht Mr. Beermann felt the program would
work. Now that Mr. Beermann is working with a consultant, his operation
appears to be more efficient.
Ms. Gibson indicated that she anticipates a rate increase for the hauler
for next year. Other companies in recycling are raising their pick up
rates and Ms. Gibson felt it was a matter of time before Mr. Beermann
uould also request an increase.
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 25, 1986 PAGE 2
Mr. Svanda asked if the income from the recycling program would be high
enough to support a rate increase.
Ms. Gibson indicated that with all the current resources available for
income the City would be able to pay a higher rate, but was not sure to
uhat extent. She felt that additional publicity was necessary to
increase participation.
Mr. Gronlund asked if it was possible to do a comparison of the program
with other communities.
Ms. Gibson stated that this was very difficult because few communities
have a similar population and a similar program.
Ms. Gibson indicated that what S.O.R.T. takes in during one year from drop-
off, Beermann Services takes in during one summer month from the curbside
recycling program. S.O.R.T. hzs been keeping tonnage r�cords and they
should be received by the end of the month for the competition of the Met
Council Tonnage Payment Program.
2. UPDATE ON S.O.R.T.
Ms. Gibson passed around a letter that she had received from Mr. Frank
stating that he Nould no[ be able to continue to serve S.O.R.T. under
the current arrangements due to financial problems. Ms. Gibson spoke
with John Flora who suggested speaking with Mr. Beermann to see if he
would be interested in taking over S.O.R.T. Ms. Gibson asked the
commission for their input. Ms. Gibson felt that, based on Mr. Frank's
letr.er indicating financial difficulties, he will ask for a set rate
increase which is not provided or accoimted for in the 1986 budget.
Mr. Wellan noted that the City would need to do the advertising and
asked what the advertising budget is estimated to be per year.
Ms. Gibson stated that the total cost for printing, mailing, etc. for the
energy and recycling update was approximately $1,700 which was split
between the four programs, giving a cost per program of about $425.00.
Mr. Wellan asked if the City would be willing to put money into
advertising for the programs.
Ms. Gibson felt that the rebate from Anoka County and the SOa per
household rebate from D1eE Council coule be used. bts. Gibson felt that
it may be better for the City ot have either Beermann Services or Frank's
Recycling handle both programs under one contract. It would be casier to
work with one person. Afs. Gibson felt that both P1r. Frank and Mr. Beermann
would compete=£or the bvsiness. It seer.�s feasible that one �erson would
handle both, but would rtr. Beermann want to coordinate volunteers? RiFht
now S.O.R.T. gets the 54.00 per ton rebate. A method would need to be
worked out so that the volunteers are paid.
Mr. Wellan asked how much the groups xere getting.
Ms. Gibson thought the groups were paid $ZS to 535 per Saturday which
came out of the money received by Mr. Frank for turning in recyclables.
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 25, 1986 PACE 3
Ms. Gibson also indicated that she didn't know if the rebates would
continue. Mr. Norm Schiferl from Anoka County had indicated that the
staff at the County had been too busy to process their application from
last August and with the construction of the proposed RDF didn't know
if the current program would continue.
Mr. Wellan recommended that Ms. Gibson wotk with Mr. Beermann and �ir. Frank
to see if one would be interested in taking the entire program. He didn't
think that S.O.R.T. would be feasible on its own. Having a r�cycling
program is going to present some expenses either way.
Mr. Svanda felt the program would gain momentum and support. He also
noted that the funds have not been cut and felt funds would be available
for a number of years.
3. DISCUSSION ON JAYCEES INUOLVEMENT IN RECYCLING
Ms. Gibson spoke with Dennis Rens who thought the idea for a rec}'cling
program in the schools was very good. h1s. Gibson will meet with Dale Thompson and
John Kehner to see exactly what they plan to do. Ms. Gibson asked the commission
if they had anything specific they Wished to have covered. The Jaycees
are still discussing basically the same ideas that had been discussed earlier
by the commission.
Mr. Peterson asked what the Jaycees intentions were about the seminars.
Ms. Gibson said it was her understanding that someone in the Jaycees was
knowledgeable about recycling and also did seminars so she thought they
would do some seminars. This would be furthez discussed at the meeting.
P�. Gibson said she would review.what the Jaycees are prepared to do and
what they want her and the Environmental Quality Commission to provide.
Mr. Wellan felt that awareness is a key thing and that educating people
was important with an emphasis on recycling being done at home.
Mr. Peterson felt that flyers pamphlets or educational materials should
be given to students to take home to families.
Mr. Wellan felt that materials like those presented at the meetings would
be adequate.
Mr. Peterson requested Ms. Gibson to check with the State of Minnesota to
see if they had appropriate materials.
Ms. Gibson said she uould check vith them and also with the Met Council.
Mr. Svanda suggested contacting Kathy Moeger, MPCA, to see if they also
had some materials.
Mr. Peterson requested that the commission know what the Jaycees are
committed to. He added that some students from Fridley attend schools in
Spring Lake Park and uondered if the Jaycees would consider working with
Spring Lake Park.
Ms. Gibson indicated that there will be a recycling program in Spring Lake Park
so there could be some overlap. She felt that education in the schools
Would be an enormous task in itself for the Jaycees.
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 25, 1986 PAGE 4
4. UPDATE ON COMPOSTING STUDY
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Ms. Gibson indicated that she had worked with Norm Schiferl to come up
With some figures on composting and had come up with an estimated budget,
criteria and options. These were reviewed with the commission.
Mr. Svanda expressed concern with the site locations. The site proposed
in Spring Lake Park appeared to be low land. Mr. Svanda said a compost
site needed to be above the water table; otherwise, it would have an effect
on the uater and it can be difficult to turn the compost with the large
equipment.
Ms. Gibson also expressed concern with the proposed site near Locke Park
on NSP property indicating that there may be some restrictions.
The committee discussed several alternative sites. Ms. Gibson indicated
that Mr. Schiferl recommended a one-acre site as minimal for the population.
Mr. Gronlund thought it a good idea to work with another community.
Mr. Svanda suggested working with Spring Lake Park because the community
has land available and, if the land is to be developed, the site can be
moved.
Ms. Gibson said she would talk to Mr. Volkman to see if there is are any
other feasible locations.
UPDATE ON MET COUNCIL SOLID WASTE ABATEMENT PROGRAMS
Ms. Gibson stated that she would apply for the tonnage rebate at the end
of the montb, and that the funds for the household rebate had been applied
for and received.
UPDATE ON ANOKA COUNTY GRANT MONIES
h�. Gibson is waiting for a joint powers agreement between Anoka County and
the h�t Council. - If the agreement comes through and looks in order, Ms.
Gibson will obtain the necessary signatures. Then Anoka County will be
invoiced for the period from June to htarch. Another invoice will be pre-
pared in fall/winter for April through December, 1986.
DISCUSSION ON NSP MASS SURN FACILITY AND TRANSFER STATIONS
Ms. Gibson indicated that Anoka County is waiting for an environmental
impact statement before proceeding with construction of the RDF facility
in Elk River. The statement should be back in August. Construction can
not be started until the environmental impact statement is completed and
public hearings are held. Ms. Gibson stated that the transfer stations
were not planned yet. The site is expected to be similar to that in
Newport, Minnesota.
The committee discussed some of the hazards associated with burning of
solid vaste materials.
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8. DISCUSSION ON EQC WORKPLAN FOR 1986
Ms. Gibson indicated that it was time to update the workplan for the next
year and asked the commission for their suggestions.
Mr. Wellan requested that a copy of last year's work plan be sent to
members and be included on the agenda for the next meeting.
9. OTHER BUSINESS �
a. Mr. Wellan noted that at the Planning Commission meeting it was
mentioned that some communities are banning commercial lawn care
seTVices such as ChemLawn because of cancern over pollution.
Ms. Gibson said she had talked to the MPCA and they indicated that
lawn care services are licensed and controlled by the D0� - Department
of Agriculture. However, there are municipalities with more stringent
ordinances and the services can be restricted locally.
Mr. Peterson added that water pollution could happen with any type
of residential fertilizers (including that used by residents on their
lawnsJ, as well as agricultural fertilizers and herbicides.
Mr. Svanda felt that if commercial businesses are limited tlien anyone
using similar products must be limited. The issue is very broad.
Ms. Gibson indicated that there has been no litigation or problems
lately.
Mr. Svanda requested that Ms. Gibson send the commission any information
she may receive on this topic.
b. Mr. Svanda indicated that the MPCA had solicited cities to conduct a
household hazardous waste collection. Funds had been requested from
the State but were not approved. Municipalities and suburbs are being
contacted for interest in conducting their own piograms. The MPCA is
looking for ways to handle a collection program and are requesting a
report back on the results. He added that Determan Welding in Fridley
had shown an interest.
Mr. Svanda would like to keep current with this program.
c. Ms. Gibson referred to the attachments to the agenda.
d. Mr. Gronlund has resigned from the commission. Memhers expressed
their appreciation for his contributions to the commission.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION by Mr. Peterson, seconded by Mr. Gronlund, to adjourn the meeting.
UPON A VOICE VOT£, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON WELLAN DECLARED THE MARCH 25,
1986, ENVIROtd�SENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING ADJ�URNED AT 9:00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Lavonn Cooper, Record ng Secretary