PL 11/19/1986 - 6885�
PIANNING COP'A�ffSSION N�'rING
WEpNE.S'�Ay, iJWII�R 19, 1986
7:30 P.M.
Jock Robertson
Cottrtnunity Developm�it Director
PI.Ata]ING Q�NASISSION I+EETING
Citv of FYidley
AGENDA
WF9f1E5II4Y, N(JJEFBIIt 19, 1986 7:30 P. M.
iucation: Coimcil Q�amber (upper level)
r • • •�. �•
ImI,L CALL •
APPPOVE PiANNING OONAfISSIOr MINUTES: ►17VE1�ER 5. 1986
HIBLIC HFARING: Q�NSIDERATION OF A PRII,71�ffNARY PLAT,
P. S 486-06, VAL�LEY OAKS, SY �iARLES �OR: . - . . . . . . .
Being a replat of t]�at part of Lot 22, B1ock 3. Moore
Lake Hills, Anoka Coimty, Minnesota, lyinq southerly
of a lire described as follo�ws: Beginning at a point
on the northeasterly line of Lot 21, ffiock 3. Moore
Lake Hills, distant 35.00 feet mrthwestetly fran the
northeast qorner; thence southwesterly to a point on
the southwestecly line of said Lot 22, distant 42.00
feet mrthwesterly from tY�e southwest aozrer of said
Lot 22 and t2�ece terininatinq. Except that part therr
of lying northeasterly of the following described line:
Beginning at a point on the mrth line of said Lot 22,
distant 5.00 feet westerly fran the northeast wrner;
thence southerly to a point on the south line of said
lot, distant 60.00 feet westecly fraa the aoutheast
correr. Subject to easements, i.f any, and that �art
of Lot 21 and 22, Block 3, Moore Lake Hills, Anoka
County, Miruiesota, lyinq easterly, southeasterly and
northeasterly of a line described as follaas: Beginning
at a point on the mrtheasterly line of said Lot 21,
distant 212.00 feet southeastecly of the most rartY�erly
mrner of said Lot 21, thence southwestezly, at a ri�t
anqle to said northeasterly line, to its intersection
with line A, hereafter described, thence southwesterly,
along said line A to its intersection with a line described
as beginning at a point on the mrth line of said Lot
22, distant 5.00 feet westerly of tY�e rortheast aorner,
thence southecly to a point on the south lien of said
Lot 22, distant 60.00 feet westetly of tYie southeast
corner, thence aoutherly, along last described li.ne. to
the south line of said Lot 22 a� thete tea¢inating.
Line A is desczibed as beqinning at a point on t]�e mrth-
easterly northeast oorrer, thence southwesterly to a
point on the southwestezly line of said Lot 22, said
point distant 42.00 feet mxthwesterly frcm the south-
west oor�!er of said Lot 22, and t2�ere terminatinq.
Subject to���anents, i.f any, and the east 600.00 feet
of the aouth 200.00 feet of the nozth 882.5 feet of the
mrthwest quarter of the northeast guarter of Section
24, �bwnship 30, l�ange 24, located in Anoka Coimty.
Minnesota, generally located south of Hillcrest Dcive
and north of Gardena Avenue.
'`•��i7
. . 1-1H
Fi�ANNING (AtMII.SSION PEETING
N7�IFSSEI2 19, 1986
PAGE 2
QONSIDERATION OF A VAQ�TI023 RF71.UF52r SAV #86-06� BY
Q�IARLFS Q�OK . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 - 2A
Vacate easements for puialic utilities c3escribed as
fallaws: the south 5 feet of Lot 22, Block 3, Moore
Lake Hills and the aouth 5 feet and the east 10 feet
of Int 21, B1ock 3, Moore Lake Hi11s, generally located
south of Hillcrest Drive and north of Gardena Avenue
RE�IVE 'IIiE MII�J'iS�S OF 'IIiE HQ]SING & RFFi�VII,OPMEN'P
AU�IORITY SPECIAL t�ETING OF SEPPF�SER 23, 1986 ........ WHITE
RE(ENE �]E MII9U'!FS OF `giE HQ]SING & Rf�E.VII,OPMENT
AUZHORITY MEETITIG OF OCiOBER 9, 1986 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . WHIZE
RE(EIVE giE MItUg'S OF 'RiE APPFAI.S O�[MASSION 1�ETING
OF OCll7BER 28, 1986 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . YII,LQr1
RE�IVE 'giE II�Y Q�hAffSS7AN MEETIIJG OF OCIDBER 28,
1986 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LII�AC
RECEIVE 1HE H.RKS & RE(RFATION QJNAIISSION IYIII�I'IFS OF
N(1JFSSER 3, 1986 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . GREQI
dIIiIIt BUSINESS:
Ai]JGUidaENT
�
CITY OF FP.IDLEY
PLAIJWING COPVIISSIO�I NEF.TIdG, NOVE�IBER 5, 1986
CAI.L TO ORDER:
Chairperson Billings called the P�ovember 5, 1936, Plannin� Cor�mission meetinn
to order at 7:34 p.m.
ROI.L CALL:
Menbers Present: Steve f3illin�s, Dave Kondrick, Dean Saba, Sue Sherek,
�onald Betzold, Richard Svanda
Menbers Absent: IJone
Others Present: Jir� Ro6inson, Planning Coordinator
JocY. Rohertson, Corr.iunity Development �irector
APPROVAL Of OCTORER 22, 1986, PLAfdt1I�l� C0�1tiISSI�II �tI�!'1TF5:
r--
MO'_"IO:J BY t.*R. KONDRICK, SECOIJDED BY MR. SIiBA, TO RPPROVE THE OCT. 22, 1986,
PLANVI77G COISMISSIO7J IdINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICF. VOSE, RLL VOTING AYE, CXAIRPEftSON BILLINGS DECLARED '_"HE 1fOTION
CRI2RIED UNiL"IIAfOUSLY.
1. CONSIDFP,ATION OF A VACATION RfQUF.ST TO UACATE A PORTIOP! OF TF'F CITY-(li,l�
urr_�n.inv cc Tiiomm�rv oonnroTV.
hir. Rohinson stated this vacation request was originally intended to
facilitate the 4Joodbridge developnent, but some technical difficulties
have arisen. He would recommend that this iten 6e tabled.
MOTIOtJ ➢Y hfR, KONDP.ICK, SFCONDED BY AfS. SHF.REK, TO TAHLE mHIS I^'F.M.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, RLL VOTZNG AYE, CHAIP.PF.RSON BILLZNC,S PF.CLREF,D mXE
MOTIOL' CARRIED UNANIMOl15LY.
2. RfVIEW OF THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE UNIVERSITV AVEP�UE CORRIDOR:
Mr. Robinson stated this effort actually started in 1983 when the HRA decided
to have a focal point at the intersection of University and hiississippi to
highlight the development goin9 on in the Center City area. Flyers were sent
out to architectural firms asking for design plans, but there was a limited
response. On the night of the design presentation at an HRA meeting, a fe�r
businessmen from along the University Ave. corridor requested that the Ci*.y
tal:e a look at the whole corridor in order to improve the visual amenities,
and they stated that sane businesses were suffering because the corridor was
unsightly.
PLANNING C(Nit1ISSI0N �tEETING NOVEM6ER 5 19II6 PAGE 2
Mr. Rohinson stated that after 1; years, the Ci±y hired Barton-Aschmann to
do a study for the entire corridor from 53rd Ave. to 85th Ave. A Technical
Advisory Committee was organized with members from business, residents, and
city staff. The master plan was presented by Mr. Barry Warner, principal
designer for Barton-Aschmann, at the Sept. 23, 1986, TAC meeting. The master
plan was comprised of a number of different cor�ponents including landscapinc�,
surface treatments, median treatments, fencin9, intersection treatments on
specific intersections, and lighting.
Mr. Robinson explained to the Commission members each of these components in
more detail. He stated the treatments were concentrated at the intersections
of 57th Ave. and 85th Ave. which were considered the City's gatea�ays anci at
Mississippi and Osborne which were major intersections. Other intersections
would get smaller treatments.
Mr. Robinson stated the proposed cost of improvements would 6e about $2 million.
This would not include lighting, and drainage which would be necessary at
69th Ave.
Hr. Saba asked if any consideration had been given to salt damage to land-
scaping, trees, etc.
Mr. Robinson stated the trees would be set back 6-7 feet from the curb, ancl
he thought trees had been chosen that would he tolerant to salt.
Ms. Sherek stated she would also be concerned about salt damage to the brick-
work and if any consideration had been given to the durability of wrought iron
from salt spray.
Mr. Robinson stated brickwork had been discussed, and he thought it �ras said
that concrete brick would be more durable, but this was something that should
be determined.
P1r. Saba asked if plastic had been considered in place of wrought iron.
Ms. Sherek stated she was reaily concerned about maintenance--the lonn term
maintenance and the high cost of maintenance for the gateways. Was the City
willing to make that kind of long term cor�mitment?
Mr. Kondrick stated he liked the "Jersey barrier" but he did not think it was
very practical for Minnesota. He was in favor of sanething that would span
the highway coming into Fridley.
Mr. Billings stated his reaction to the gate brickwork entrance was: Does it
look like the entrance to a cemetery?
P1r. Kondrick stated he felt the lighting was very important to project a certain
image; however, he felt the lightinq should be more "folksy" and less commercial.
PLANNING COMMISSION PIEETIIJG, NOVQ�I6ER 5, 1986 PAGE 3
Ms. Sherek stated they might want to consider different effects from linhting
in different places, hut keep the same intensity and same coloration.
Ms. Sherek stated maybe the Comnunity Park should also be tied into the
cormunity taith a brick treatment.
Ms. Sherek stated that as new development occurs along University Ave., �aynP
the landscaping, and possibly lighting, could be at the cost of the developer,
Mr. Robertson stated the next crucial stage was the sequence of improvements.
Mr. Svanda stated he felt all the improvements should be done at one time, so
it would not mess up traffic on a long term basis,
P1r. Robinson stated this was an information item, and they had just wanted to
get some reactions and input from the Cortmission members.
3. RECEIVE OCTOBER 2, 19F36, HUPIAPJ RFSOURCES Cb�1MISSIOPJ MIh1UTFS:
MOTION BY MS. SHEREK� SF,CONDE➢ BY MR. KONDRSCK, TO RECF.IVE THF. OCT. 2, 2986�
HUPtAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTE,S,
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYF.� CHAIRPERSON BILLINCS DF,CLAREA THF. MOTIOP7
CAI:RIED UNANIMOUSLY.
4. RECEIUE OCTOQER 28, 1986, APPEALS COMP1ISSION MINUTES:
Since the Appeals Cormission minutes were not available at the r�eeting,
Mr. Betzold explained to the Cormissioners the taro variance requests at
that meeting. He stated both requests were siMilar in that the petitioners
wanted to expand from single car garages to double car garages but needed to
vary the code in order to do what they wanted. The first request was denied
by a tie vote, and tfie second request was approved on a 3-1 vote, so hoth
requests will be going to City Council.
Mr.Betzold stated it was his intention to write a letter to the City P1anager
and City Council asking for sone guidance and clarification on three issues:
(1) the issue of two-car garages--expanding single car garages to double
car garages; (2) the issue of variance requests for property along the
Mississippi P,iver; and (3) the issue of parking lot widths.
MOTION BY MR. BETZOLD� SECONDEP BY MR. SVANDA, TO RECEIVF. THF. RF.PORT OF TIiF.
OCT. 28, Z986, APPERLS COMPfISSION MF.ETTNG AND THAT TNOSF. MINUTES BE FORGTARDFD
ON TO THE CZTY COUNCIL. �
f1PON A VOICE VOTE, RLL VOTING RYE� CXA7RPEFLSON BILLINGS DECLARED TXF MOTIOIJ
CARRIED IIN�ANIMOUSLY.
PLANNIt�G COMPiISSION MEETING NOVEPI6ER 5 1986 PAGE 4
5. OTfiER BUSINESS:
a. Proposed 1987 Planninq Comnission hieeting Schedule
P1r. Robinson stated the Comnission memhers had received a copy of the
proposed meetinc� date schedule for 19II7. Ne noted there was only one
meeting in November, and it was scheduled on Nov. 25, Thanksgiving Eve.
After some discussion, the Comnission memhers agreed to change the
Nov. 25th meeting date to Nov. 18th, and to add a meeting date of
Dec. 2.
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK, SECONDED AY MR. BF.TZOLD, TO ApPROVE THF 5987
PROPOSF.b PLAl7NING COMMISSION SCHEDULE WITH TNE FOLLOWZf7G CHANGES:
CXANGE NOV. 25, I987, to NOV, 18, 1987
ADD DEC. 2, 1987� AIANG WZTH THE ALREADY SCHEDULED DEC. 16TH MEETING DATF.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON BILLINGS DECLARF.D THF,
MOTION CARRZFD UNANIMOUSLY,
b. City Council Update on SpeciaT Use Permit for Church on the Hove
Mr. Robertson stated the City Council received all the research they had
asl:ed for two weeks ago, and the only question left was wheth?r or not
Church on the P1ove was going to get the one year lease on the easement
from Totino Grace for �arking. The item was tabled at the ]ast f,ity
Council meeting upon receipt of that inforriation ancl review by the City
Attorney. Staff was also directed to do a feasibiiity study looking at
church zoning in general--the appropriateness of churches in R-1 zones
versus other zones.
Mr. [3illings stated Councilman Goodspeed made the motion that Staff look
at that, that it come to the Planning Cor,miission, and then back to City
Council, bihen it came before the Plannie� Commission, he 4rould like to
see some information, not only in terms of whether or not churches are
still an appropriate use in P,-1, but on all uses currently bein� alloaied
in R-1, R-2, and R-3 with a speciai use permit. It wouTd be better to
do this all at once instead of on a piecemeal basis.
Mr. Robertson stated that was an excellent idea.
ADJOUR�JP1EtdT:
MOTION BY PfR. KONDRZCK, SECONDED BY AfS. SHF,REK� TO ADJOURN THE MEETZPIG. UPO"% 1l
VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING RYE� CHAIRPERS017 BILLZC7GS DECLARED THE NOV, 5, 1986�
PLANNING COMMISSZON MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:43 P,M.
Respectfully subm'tted,
c c�G
Ly Saba
Recording Secretary
i _�.
.'sl�:e
�
eirr oF �n�o�r
i4a1 tlNIYERSl7Y AYE. N.E.
FRIDLEY, MN �645!
�a�z�ar�-s4ao
, , �,
_e
,�
';� �-• REZONING RE�UEST ZOA f 1
VACATION RE�UEST SAV f
PLATTING REOUEST P.S. f al,-o6
R�t7F5T PEE 500 � p� 7XNfoa
:�
, :�-
��r # �?Gle'
-�• o-� a� � i i •� ,. i u. r � ��� . %�
^�' 7� }1 M •• MI 71 1 �� Y
PROPERTY INFORMATION
PROpFR1Y AD�2F5S See le¢al deecri�tion attached
I.B�Hi, DESQtIPPII7N:
f ��7�-7i ��
W:: M G�,� Y u.�
PRFSFNT 2Q0IIdG R-1 R�2UE5tED ZCNII� R-1
REASQ� FUR R�[7F5P: A site plan �awing the pc�osed future �se is required for all
rezaating.
_A�glication for �lattine oY pro�erty and splittin� of two ex3sting
lots to facititate total new plat. Alao. vacate eaeementa as
necessar9.
**,ttf:*,t:fe***ttt+t,ttt *tt::*t**tt,k:t***rf t**:tt�*:**trtft*tfe+�t*****tt*� *t*ts* *,t*f **,r*s•
OWNER INFORMATION
Continental Development Corporation
� ��� p�irn) Contract Purchaser pgq,�
ADIRFS.S See Addendum for owners names and sienatures
SIGI�7SlRE �TE
RikRi�#R*R!***##R44!lrtR*R#*!c!tl1f�tl�fttit'M1t*t##Ri�it�k*Rk#!##***t#t!r*!**#**tk*R t!*kR****
PETITIONER INFORMATION
tdAlE (pleage prirn) Continental Development �� # 757-7568
Corporation
ADlitffiS 12093 Ilea Street. Coon Ranids. MN 55433
SDGI�AYORE /�71�'+�� ��aa'` , //� II�,TE
.
t��x:s*ttx **t:**;,ttt�t*:fet�*ttf *tt:t**,�tt�tt*#*:s+rt:*,►�t*tf:t�,t*�t*::***tt* ***� * x+r*,r * * ** * *+
� I 1 U� 1 U "J i� 17 17�� �'.
.�� �aJH1R..ii�:
r111i V1Ya�ial.Il�r�1:
••• ?1 �i IJI� ��.y
lA
Continental Development Corporation
120�3 Ilex Street
coon Rapids, r�r: 55433
Qctober 23, 199E
Jim Robinson
City of Fridley
643} University Avenue NE
Fridley, A'n 55432
P,E: Application for platting of Valley Oaks
Dear Jim Robinson:
Lnclosed is an application to plat 2pproximately 3.25 acres of land
located just south of N.00re Iake Estates, This site is presentl�
zoned Fc-1 and my request for plattin� is consistent with tbis zonin�.
The total plat consists of what is presentl,y three separa.te parcels of
land, I initially obt�ined, under purchase contract, 2.75 acres of land
that was land locked, I then maae efferts to obtain a roadwa,y access
from t�e ajoining property owner of Lot 2,�, Block 3 of h'oore I,ake Hills,
Geor�e and Candice �con.
Through these efforts and ne�otiations, George and Candice determined
t�at because of the excessive size of their lot and because of the
topography, a substantial elevation drop in their rear ,yard, the�� would
prefer to split t'neir lot in a manner that allews for an additiona.l
lct ir. m,y� new plat. Geor�e then approached his nei�?�hor, ',:'alter and
Hazel Johnsen, and throu�h furt!�er neeotiations the Johnscns determir.ed
they woulc do the same.
The Bacons, Johnsons ard = have reached an agreement for economic
compens�tion and I have provided copies of these a�reer�ents with t!�i�
appl�cation.
ks is sbown cn my agFlicaticn for plattin�, all of the fee owners o£ the
three parcels of lano involved have executed this applicatior,.
h:ark Burch and Jon Thompson from City Engineerin� have walked this site
w•ith me and have expressed their feeling that the project is sounr'
and feasible ir terms cf engineering and in trat the lots will be
desirable.
As this plat is designed, it preserves t!�e existine natural topo�r..,r,Y;y
and it will be a compliment to the community.
Feel free to contact me if you have any corcerns, 757-75bR.
Rese,pectfully,
'/� -.� � , l �' -E-�
�Charles S. Cook, Fresident
Cor.tinental Development Corpor2tion
enclosures
r• i
'� • �.
� i � u � i �
Notice is hereby g}ven that there will be a Public Hearing of the Planning
Caimission of the City of Fric�ey in the City Hall at 6431 University Avenue
Norti�east on Wech�esday, 13�venber 19, 1986 in the W�mcil Chamber at 7:30 p.m
-for �e purpose of:
Consideration of a Preliminaty Plat, P. V-06, Valley Qaks, by
Qiarles Cook, being a replat of that part of Lot 22, Block 3,
Moore Lake Hi11s, Anoka Ootmty, Minnesota, lying southerly of a
line described as follows: Beginning at a point on the
northeasterly line of Lot 21, Block 3, Moore Lake Hills, distant
35.00 feet northwesterly fran the northeast corner; thence
southwesterly to a point on the southwesterly line of said Lot
22, distant 42.00 feet rorthwesterly fran the southwest oorrer of
said Lot 22 and there terminating. Except that part thereof
lying northeasterly of the follwing described line: Beginning
at a point on the mrth line of said Lot 22, distant 5.00 feet
westerly frcm the northeast wrner; thence southerly to a point
on the south line � said lot, distant 60.00 feet westerly from
the southeast aorner. Subject to easements, if any, and that
part of Lot 21 and 22, Slock 3, Moore Lake Sills, Anoka County,
Minnesota, lying easterly, southeasterly and northeasterly of a
line described as follows: Beginning at a point on the
northeasterly line of said Lot 21, distant 212.00 feet
southeasterly of the most rortherly corner af said Lot 21, thence
southwesterly, at a ric�t angle to said northeasterly line, to
its intersection with line A, hereaf ter described, thence
southwesterly, along said line A to its intereection with a line
described as beginning at a point on the north line of said Lot
22, distant 5.00 feet westerly of the northeast corner, thence
southezly to a point on the aouth line of said Lot 22, distant
60.00 feet westecly of the eoutheast cosner, thence southerly,
along last described line, tv the south line of said Lot 22 and
there temnir�ating. Line A is described as beginning at a point
on the rortheasterly northeast oor�r, thence southwesterly to a
point on the southwesterly line of said Lot 22, said point
distant 42.00 feet northwesterly fran th e southwest corner of
said Lot 22, and there terminating. Subject to easements, if
any, and the east 600.00 feet of the south 200.00 feet of the
north 882.5 feet of the northwest quazter of the northeast
quarter of Section 24, �wnship 30, Range 24, located in Anoka
Coimty, Minnesota, generally located south of Hillcrest Drive and
north of Gardena Avenue.
Any and all persons desiring to be heard shall be given an opportunity at the
above stated time and glaoe.
i� :, �
•.
• i i •� � •
Puhlish: Nw�bez 3, 1986
Nov�ber 10, 1986
.
P.S. #86-06
Valley Oaks
SAV #$6-06
Charles Cook
Continental Develognent Corp.
Charles Cook
12093 Ilex Street
Coon Rapids, NIN 55433
Faith Acade.ny
1401 Gardena Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Douglas Johns�
1495 Gardena Avenue N.E.
Fridley, NIN 55432
Richard Fxench
1469 Gardena Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Dorothy Baxter
1465 Garrlena Avenue N.E.
Fridley, DSN 55432
Charles Croon
1437 Ga�ena Avenue N.E.
Fridley, P1N 55432
Wayne Monson
1423 Gardena Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Dean Johnson
1413 Gardena Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Neal Jenewein
1342 Hillcrest DYive N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Davis Han�ernick
1340 Hillcrest Drive N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Paul Colstr�n
1338 Hillcrest Drive N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
George sacon
1336 Hillcrest Drive N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Walter Johnson
1334 Hillcrest Drive N.E.
Ta�l�l.... �wt CGA]O
MAII,ING LIST
Michael Gannucci
1332 Hillcrest Drive N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Richard Modig
1330 Hillcrest Drive N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Joseph Hinytzke
1328 Hillcrest Drive N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Richard Lindquist
1326 Hillcrest Drive N.E.
Fridley, MN 55932
Hwrard Bercycian
1324 Hillcrest Drive N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Rd�ert Knudson
1322 Hillcrest Drive N.E.
Fridley, MN 55932
David Ltirac
1320 i3illcrest Drive N.E.
Fridley, NIN 55432
Arvid Hansen
1318 Hillcrest Drive N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
GarY Kin4
1319 Hillcrest Drive N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Harold Hanson
1321 Hillcrest Drive N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Roc Nelsmi
1323 Hillcrest Drive N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Donald Nyvold
1325 Hillcre5t Drive N.E.
Fridley, NII�7 55432
Delores Ponessa
1327 Hillcrest Drive N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
1C
plaruiing 11/6/86 —
�uncil
Fdwin Sexlmi
1331 Hillcrest Drive N.E.
Fridley, NIN 55432
Yoava Klucsar
1337 Hillcrest Drive N.E.
Fridley, MN 55932
Iawrence Morris
1345 Hillcrest Drive N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Douglas Heimstead
1349 Hillcrest Drive N.E.
Fridley, MbII 55432
Harold Tha�son
1351 Hillcrest Drive N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Rose Peterson
1353 Hillcrest Drive N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Reuben Watlov
1355 Hillcrest ➢rive N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Bron-Fsic Incozporated
3231 Centsal Avenue N.E.
Colimbia Heights, MN 55421
Wesley Long
1560 - 60th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, iR3 55432
Gilbert Sakariason
5965 Oakwoocl Manor
Fridley, MN 55432
Chester Burmis
5963 Oakwoocl Manor N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Janell Benson
5951 Oakwood Manor N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Eino Efraimson
5990 Oa3cwood Manor N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
P.. . #86-06
SAV-#86-06
C. Cook
Page 2
Charles Dorcas
5960 Oakwood Manor N.E
Fridley, MN 55432
Donovan McG��ire
5928 Oakwood A7anor N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Maxy Steven
5926 Oakwood Manor N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Stephen Shorn�a
5916 Oakwood Manor N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Steven Benson
5910 Oakwood Manor N.E.
Fridley, NII�7 55432
Stephen Dahlman
1499 Gardena Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Bailey Tiller
1535 Gardena Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Kenneth Baker
5925 Oakwood Manor N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Gerald Burro.a
5924 Oakweod Manor N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Ronald Scholl
1508 Ferndale Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Otto Gaupp
1504 Ferndale Avenue N.E.
Fridley, I�II�7 55432
Francis H�t
1505 - 60th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Wayne Herrig
L511 - 60th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Andre+�* Richert
1522 Ferndale Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
James Allen
1541 - 60th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Ronald Long
1521 - 60th Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55932
Irving Olsen
1511 Ferndale Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Gregory Johnson
1505 Ferndale Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Ellena Duval
1560 Ferndale Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Roger Sorsoleil
1561 - 60th Avenue Pd.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
1D
�Y �NF : � IZ\ lE
l� a IM �. , .l.. S.i
,��� �� --� --39.9cY1 GS.(2C_'_�,rCJ-----
:,. `� ,, ,,., � I 4\
— �� - e,, ly,' l�� 'l�, �' " ' `'l l� ,r�.. ,�,, -. ', Q
, . .� , ,� O , �*l �" ° ,�, �s, i
/- � a
, � „ , , � ;, _ .p' ,
I ,, � ,E ;' ; s- A
•" < .� .�' T , y ,
i �
� �r �-f` Hl��, �� �CREST , ,ORIVE���.� - � ��� ��� �; M� �:
.. , ,,. ;, .
P� ��� ",�s�; ��� '.�' �� b� ��n � '��,� � `�o� �a� ��� _ � �t-� � - �i
9 r 7 �, . �{ �� j i � •` �{� �f
�, L`A I i♦ � .~ ~ ' �'iea�l�� �F .
. ' 'i
° ta a . - �r�r . 's �
, a- ` `�� I ��i ^ rcn �Y 'N) �.Vl .�i'� {�H �.i � .. p
��. �il `31 C'll) f7 � e�.t_� /F/) O� � �� p Z ..r
.' � �y�� �?i ,a � „. P . p " �
���1 :�' r� = ��• � • � � s
,� `
i! /f � • Y zv �'. . . np � -
l3 fr @� :ai1 � � . �i ti y� •
� I f ��v`- . ' � : : "A :1 ��, ; 9� �� s,a ;gi- <
' t - �� I � Q3 �e. ! 71 �
.. � .. � »� 't6> :M) 4LN! K, � , . � p�y� � '1 .s
F.ST ' '� y _ � - _
' �� ' �(y4) IP� G�l ... .. .r;:"___.�.{}} �F
� � 5�l �6�� � � � " ,; . .
�ys� � � ,v
,,,, H. �L . ; ,� , ,�, ,o
,. �.
a ,� � �Q N � E
.,-
. a � I � •-I + �i y;.
� , ,. _.�.... -,...,�, I: ��� � TI
� A (in .,s.... � {� ':. �
,.,. �,,, < . ,� � �,_.,,,
�1ELpLAN G RDE S � , �.,. �7��,e1. �._. ,r�, �
,, �.,.,.-��
f�,� � � � ,,.• �` �� fy �oj
_� ARDE ELE ENTAR ��; ,° �g �,�'� ; '', z,
, � ,.,.
.- �
,..�.. , ..,�.� � CmSC OOL ��� , s ���� � o �_ ,
qI ,.�..� �,. `� I; �
rl �L—.r_,_ :_ l.. ✓,si.-d.voq9,ol. � ,i.�.- k� , P wo .
I' �s' � �1 I�� � '�, � � � :� �
p� �s � � in) (n> .,� t. � � I��l f?l
.00: :..3� �-�� 'v> �sc� � �z3s 'LZS � :d �'� � � N
- � �,t�) 04. . r�) (B) � ti ur
._. . � � i ,.5� � �� . .. ,. . i
..,�
- —�— '-�� ��EN�tE-----
, �;°: :..
i �
,E. ; HIGH
�
� LOC�►TION MAP
,
s ��
-- {.- � L
r--
i
�. �
��; : � ��wi
�,�°" �,� � �'� �
�5�� �9�„� 31 � 32
��+�; . �
!3S'
i6l �
(HSO! �. a
7, � � �'
;�
�
� �
"1'1 '
� �
.,
���- � � =- � G
.�� ---;: ;�,_ �; t> � =-- —
—. 3�., z ,—.
��' �x ._�
.a� io �. �� . •..o �
I ♦ Ih ! ,. •. , . ._ !�r . . � �
� � � �_ _' .' � � , �� �I< <ti .
I�a N � �
'T' , � ' ' ._ __
.a- \ \a--<y `Z �_ _��00E QO ` ..:_—_
O. \ �� �`� � \ \ \ �� �
���� � �:�� I .o �� �� A �� �� �� A � �
i � � �� � " � y � �� '��� V �� �� A ` � � � � Q
� \ i � � i ' q� �• . �d.1 � � \ \ � � \ � �� ' z �/�
� � � �� n I A V A • � - ii
� \i 1 � , r�, \ � � \ i 7 �
� � . 1 � / J. � .
� � V � �� � �� �� � � � \ � ��
� � � \ ���\� �
�( � � s� � � � \�
�� / � ��i � I � „� 1 � �� ` �
,/ �
\/'� �� ��� il `, � �� \�s\ � �\���\\� � � �� \ Q `�:
__�� � � � � � �.i i'4\ � \ a\� �\�\\\ �' \ �--
�� /� ��\ �1 \\;ry�\ 9` � � �\,� �' � \ \ � � �`�
,
� � � �� N �°c� , ��� ` � \ \ 1 11 � � \ '. ' � r"•
� / < � ���� ��� �, � �i�� � ` J `:�
\ \--- � � � �� � a� 1 �lI �y �� \ -o___`. � �.�
� ,�.A \ �� �n •���Ma.1 � 1't�'�,A �_ � � ir�
! \
� \ � —
�
.,�, � , � ���� �, , < � „ , � � � �. , a �, �
- � / \ � kai �1 �� ai , � � ` F
� ��� p / � � � 1• �� i �� � .�o� ��� c
. . i� �i� V A m
�� ��� �l ��� ������ �� 1� ���� ,.� _ ���\��� � ;�° �
\ m w
� � � \ / � �' � n � a Q � � a .
� � � I. � 1 � � / � � � ��A� \ � �' � N '. o �
(T � r
� / / �� f � � � ��V�� .�� � 1 �����
�� � � � � �' / � � � Z' m ��� A� `. , Li I w o c '
�- � � � � ' � � — ii� i '^ °= m �
9 � A �' . ,�z� c
� ' � // � ! I,� �or� I ��A� V� �_� �'o�o��.
�� �� � I I f {� ��i A � �a �.;�
� ,� 1 / �—� rn 'I �1 I�� ^ \•_ 1 �� =="=I
l�' i � {, � N � � i,�� l I �� an � '� . � �S6_ � i
�� �� '�1 ��� � 1� � � � / � �A�� �� �� �°a�.�� � .� V .
� / \ m
�'�
1�� 1 !` ` �:�� `� / / ��� � �1\�\� � � 26 \� � -- �_�
- � �� f � ��\ �" "' ll
�� ,1 ' .Y � �' A 1 �ti � ,
�(� ,� L—� 1 � \ \ v;\ a'-
1 I C� I �, I,���I ��������� \ � � � �` "� � K
�' � I I I ��� 1���'� I �� 1 I� I m A� \ �
� ��
H _i
� `1
� (
,� � � '' , � N I � ��I ��1111 � � � I 1 I \� � z :_;
��, �� �I ` i i '� � I� iI iI I� I � J���I i�"°�N � z ._
,'�,' ` ',t '1 � i o�' i � i ' � � � �� � ' \ �.' � ��:
J` 11, �—�/�; "�1i i� �j j� 1 ��j r I � �w----'ll •=
�� � � ,oi IT j 1/ // /� �� I l I 0 1
_��1 � i 1 I,l, l tl� i I�� l I l� 1/ � Z I
t�� 1 s, I lli��e 1/� I ��g —�� �
I ° � �.
y; 1 1 1 1. ` � N �����! /!/ ! �x� 1
�I== ' ` «3 ± � , 4��,�� �, ,i _i -�a �
°�s� 1 �1 `�, 1 �c �`, ' , ��n � ��v � 4�� , � --�-
� , �.{ , i
` � �1� C'�, �---� � � � i � � � � �� � � ; � '��
� '�'1 ��-•i �� i ��1\ � i
��� � � � � � � ti� 1 � 1 N ��� ��
�� 1, `;� y ' �l �; i �
1 11 � ' —� �
� 1, ` 1 `� '' ~�` r�
1 `11 i � ,-'
_ i ,____
i
� ��' . � � � 1�
•a- � __ "
l�' M � i
... �. :r
� , � •.�
�T� 4 ,� -�.z . — ._ --__.
-y' � \ __�004 - _ . _
� �• _ "C - Zr=— � . �
--. � ' , ��. \ .
\'1� 1 ' / \ `i `` y � �
\{: � �', ti � ,` c� A � Q
' � 1. "� ��� \�\ �� � `\�•'- Z
� J
� r � a
� j ]
T
, � ' � _.
�N �' � i � � a "` � , � ��� � �� �
�
. I� .���� � ��� - �. � �
c, I r j
� l
. �, ��1�� / ` � q5 " \ � � . \ `, I — `
� \'�'\
. J Q
��� �_ �..� , � 1 �� � � \� ��\'�� � •.
� � , \'N'� ( q0 ' �. A�f �
- A � a � �. 1. . � � . � �. U7 Q � ,
\ N �
l" � C� �
._ . �.,� N �\'. � . i . �'�d 1` \ y,
� �
° i.
. �\ lr..� '�� r ' � . �
. - � �Y�,A �� �� Ot � . �� o��� � � c
♦ � i�^ � � .
� ir � N �� ��4 �y�• �
v�� i r �� � � lJ �� �
.� � �i} "�1 � �' �;` � �� I��' � .
�� � ��� / �� �� �. � .
� �. � d � '. � 6 . �, � � �
� y. . /_ . 1 . . ,rq+ �_ �_.A Q Q � .
/_ N . � ' l i � � .
i- N `
��. � . � � - � �
. . . \ , ' . � , i � � . `�\ � . � _ � cv
� � � � � � � � / • �� � �.
i
' � '�/ -o\ . — � ; I i \,\�� - U
i
— �—b 1 . ' " � . �� �,9 A� - - U�
I
� 3 ' r I� ' � ;� 1 \
tn �, _ o ��.1� i �� t�, \
� . � � � '�, N �� �y(�O� �"� l ��?e� ` � �6-
�� � � . � , m� i� � ❑°� i•1��� �� ��"! •� �� � �
�. . �`i . I �j'���i,i�\ .., eR- ��� �.,..- /-
•Y, .-
_%.C.�- . ��_ . � 1 � y�, � \ 111 � �� � °ti n0 �A -A .��n- �` '-
� � : �� � li � ��1 �i i l � � 1 � � � �� � <
� i' i��� iti� 1� 1�I �� ~ --
1 � N ', 4 1 � i� I,1� \ Z :.
� � , � , �, ��'',i�`�i � ( � I�/I�l lr � \ w '"
' � 1 1 �/ TN y � i
, ��; a��I��s�1 iyt���� � ', �\ w � �.
�, {� �( t�! I / l �2 ��
"111 Ip ) � J/ ��/ W---' ` �
J'� ��,,� ��;o�, �-�-rr �,'� i r, r�i ! o i
__ .-= r r � z ,
J, �� � �� � '•�' � �lft��p l j��l f� ;' �� _ ' . /
� < I: .� �,� N � ,1 t l/� Pl/ ! � / ���_ �
i �. '
�.� i � ; �� � �, � . f �f � i � � f � � /
1 !Y � / I i %]�
��`QY 1 ( ti � L�• 1 /� L �� 1 L.Y� '_� I
1 1 � �- � 1 ,,
�1, 6± � � l C � . , � / `� OOi. - _� __._ �
b 1-{ �_ �� , � \ I
. _ '..- � ,� .,, c • , --', 1 ; ' : ', 1 `. \�, /
�
. ��, �i, �. 1 i " ', 1 � / � I i V �� =�_ / �
_ � i c9
� �� � � � N ��A //
f �� ., / �
�� /
y �., � _ _ � _ . �— � \ /
�� _ � .;p -- ���� 1
�� ,,
I ----�
. !
/ `
/
,� CITY OF FRIDLE1f
� Q4S1 UNIYERSITY AYE. N.E.
FRIDLEY. MN a843Z
(E12)b71-3460
" •-►-f�E20NING REOUEST ZOA # 2
� VACATION REOUEST SAV f 86-Oln.
PLATTING REQUEST P.S. +�
x�uFSr t�e �Jso �uc �eE x��r � ��
:� »� o-� a.�.1�. �� ��u� �,� .� a+ ��:H�:Vr7�
� a� � a� MZ�_7i1�M17fu���Ik1F1�l�� T/Y�I
PROPERTY INFORMATION
pRpp£RTy pDgtf:Sg See legal deacription attached
LF��AL DESQtIPPION:
LOT BIACK 'IItAQ'/ADDITIDN
••a.a • � •:� s. �� • �
REASQd fOR R$UFSI': A site glan showing the proposed future use is required for all
rezoni
We request the utility�nd drainage easement located along the south
line of I,ot 21 and 22 of Moore I,ake Hills be vacated, as a
part of the replatting of this property into Valley Oaks.
***R****!******!A****tF*fik*!**f**!*�Rt**f*****A*!*i********i�*************f�t*R****#�k#*
OWNER INFORMATION
Continental Development Corporation
NAME (please print� Contract Purchaser PHpN£ # 757-7568
ADg�ESS See Addendum for owners names and si�natures
SIGI�1lRVRE — - — IY�TE
r.*******,�**:*�**x,t********,�***r,r�**:**ff*****�xs*rr*�*:***#***********��*s******�***
PETITIONER INFORMATION
Continental Development
NAr� (please prim) Corporation pHpNE # 757-7568
: .,i``i ci3.Z"
srcrm�vxE
Street, Coon Rapids. MN 55433
S �-o-� ,--�� �� ra - � 3 - ��
**.,�**�**�.#,�*:*,�**.,��**...,�*�**:*.***z**.*****..*..*..****:***.«***.****«***�**«***
i•�f:.�i�i�.. �� v� � � � :: �. s� �:: � ��� �: �
QTY WUNCII.:
S'PIiiILATIONS:
f`��Z�iia��,a� ��� ��s4��
IV /
_�
fpoOY �NF � � I 2
�' 1M
2.A
o.` ,. r � s,..... "
�� l�� , � .• - r . _39 9t•y2 c6. /2!'.' �C%� - .
�,.. � �
� : � ' :s . � . ,. �:. �3.�� �.
..._ �t Jn. �tl , °-
; �yl . � ���� l►� �y1 ��i'1 �l V l�� �� 111 '�1� � �, , � d
c
� , i . � � M . , �F - - � , ♦ '� '� � � i
� z 1 ! K
,�` _ �Vr � ��� � a •
". B H�t� 6. �CREST � �DRIVE�,. � �,' ' : N A!
� !v � �? . - . t,. ;;�
' �P� `� ',,,; ��� 1�� l+i `qi � °�,� `�o� "�y� ' ie� ; . --- ' '; .
�
�l � � 7 G a �� 3 � t �. ' s i e .+.. '� � -��•
9 �' � ' ,a i « i yi - �.o 's
� ` «.. �: �. � -�i �,r� yy, �'':.
' ,- ��k) 1a �� (i. `J' o : .
�� ��t� �Yl 1�1i 17 �� f� ti d /NJ 1 � AQ -„ � � 7,; �
,a� ,� , ���: ��� . �e . r p : �
� �i �± , �� . . '� '�• � � .
n i , .;- �
/I /S � . . )�� t. n.v i K li� ti � �w
; ,r ,3 �,,,� ., � ,,�, � ���� 1«�� ��� � o�. : sa
E
- , : 9 ,'
,' ... � o.
� ' �N) � ... �. � ' t��� : �,
. ., . . ,�� .M) �. ... „ �r . �
CRF.St .'� � ` ~ << ,,: : :
' ,,�� a�� :°;,� --=-60
. 2 r�l 'y�� ,� I�*� i "� ifi�
I 0 ''
��', `�' .L , _ . ; � �,a rv c
- ,� . - �� .
� s �, , �� � i � �' � '� D�
3� �' � � t? .. :� _ ,. �: �ee,.! . .., �„ ��� � , fi !
..,, ,� '.
�, � .. �. �r� � 1.-.
�61E'LpLAN � G RDE S f��, ��� � � - �.. ����� . �
e
,,.. , ,
�8 �1��' � / �
� � � ARDE £LE £NTA � � � ���- =
1 ._�, - d: , �
:�,_._.., . . , ,� SC DOL � .�o�
,. ��a� �rr �
L� J ,,./a.�w-i.� � ��l I.� i � 1 .
- \�— � " - - - ��. [.ro� A Q
�__'1_T— ,r� , .d«,�a -
��/ i ]�
j�'f�. I. "tq 1 ',fl �Q', � J_, ez! �J¢
S� ' i . pq (HJ ;.cr.�l .....� i�. �- ` !��
a S�� F: C/D /AJ 95c' 235. j25, .�1 e � � F
� � �oc`� : 3' - ,�,� �is) �� . ��i r9> I i, :
: -:�>, ;I: M,�.., �'� - ir—�''vc�`
.1, : ' ' _ .�'�:.,..� ;;�ry7
� ` ' -� ���=n�, f�� . ^/�
—��.ia a�
�ACE
,,,..
��- •�-
H/GH
�
LOCA
�µo: h)� ��i
�,.,�,'s � � 29 �,� 3 I
��.,�� - -.
!L;
/i�J �
' 3 'n'
� ,.�
�
,,.
rrt�r
CITY OF FRIDLEY
HOUSING & REDEVELOPh1ENT AUTIiORITY
AND
CITY COUNCIL
SPECIAL JOINT CONFERENCE MEETING
SEPTEMBER 23, 1986
The meeting convened at 7:35 p.m.
HRA Members Present
HRA Dtembers Absent
City Counc?1 Ptembers
Present:
Otl�ers Present
Larry Commers, Virginia Schnabel, Duane Prairie,
John Meyer
Walter Rasmussen
Mayor Nee
Bob Barnette
Ed Fitzpatrick
Dennis Schneider
arian Goodspeed
Nasim Qureshi, City Manager
Rick Pribyl, Finance �irector
Bill Hunt, Asst. to the City Manager
Samantha Orduno, Management Assistant
Jock Robertson, HRA Director
Julie Burt, Asst. Finance Officer
Dave Newman, HRA Attorney
ICY FUNDIN6 ASSISTANCE TO DIFFEREP�T PUQL1
Mr. Qureshi stated the HRA and City Council members had been provided �rith snme
information which essentially laid out some of the areas where direction was
needed from the HRA and possibly some input from the Council.
Mr. Qureshi stated the IIRA was reactivated in the latter 1970's. Since then,
the HRA has been successful in developing and helping a number of major projects.
A good example was around City Hall. It was a very typical and good example of
what HRA's can do to change the shape of an area. Sor�P of the major projects
were the Fridley Plaza Clinic, the office building and plaza, Worthern Operations
Center, the Holly Center renovation, Skywoocl P1a11, Johnson Printing, and novr
Lake Pointe Corporate Center,
Mr, Qureshi stated the first districi that was created by the HRA was in 1979,
District No. l, Center City. This redevelopment district was created for 25 yrs.,
and it was under the old rules ttrat provided e�ot of lattitude. (�he whole area
was also an incremeni district.) Th� HRA will be collecting increments on all of
this area for 25 years since its creation.
HRA AIJD CITY COUNCIL
SPECIAL_JOINT CONfERENCE MEETIhIG SEPTEMQER 23 1986 PAGF 2
Mr. QurPShi stated that later the HRA created the Moore Lake District, District
No. 2. Ivhen that was created, the State had changed the rules and provided a
lot of restrictions--there was the redevelopment district and then a portion
which was included in an increment district. The State imposed the restriction
that unless the HR.4 does some actual improvements to these parcels in4luded in
increment areas, they will lose their increment after a certain number of years.
Mr. Qureshi stated the HRA then created District No. 3 and Increment District No. 3
which were kind of contiguous. The same restrictions were imposed that they could
only capture the increment for 4-5 years, depending on when the district was
created, unless they do improvements parcel by parcel.
Mr. Qureshi stated smaller redevelopment districts were created after that:
Districts h, 5, 6, and 7.
Mr. Qureshi stated that because of District No. 2, the City received a letter from
Anoka County dated June 26, 1986, asking the City if it has complied with state
la�r. This was the first official communication of this type. He stated he wrote
the County on July 25 stating the City has complied because they have done some
parcel by parcel improvements.
Mr. Qureshi stated that both District No. 3 and District No. 4 were gettin� to the
stage where they are maturing and the HRA has to make a determination on whether
or not in the future they want to realistically continue to capture the increments
in these districts. If the answer is yes, then the HRA has to take positive steps
to say they are going to take the increments and spend the increments on improve-
ments that could be on-site or adjoining--public improvements (water, sewer, street,
signalization, safety improvements, drainage, etc.).
Mr. Qureshi stated he had provided information on the dollars. Source of revenue
was the increments, and the HRA had already pledged a certain portion of the
increments for the bonds they have sold for a number of projects. The HRA has
sold 511.550 million in bonds for improvements for projects which are underway
such as Lake Pointe and other miscellaneous projects, for o-ihich 53.4 million is
available and has to be expended in the next two years, or it has to be given back.
Mr. Qureshi stated that in a joint meeting on May 8 between the City Council and
the HP.A, there was a discussion reqardinq setting priorities for the use of$3.4
million miscellanec,�s project funds. They came up v.i�th a list o`. pc�,�iSle ,projects
which included soil correction, intersectian improvements at �;est t400re Lake Drive
and 01d Central, Pfississippi Street improvements of T.H. 65, t"oore Lake water
quality, University Avenue Corridor, Senior Houisng, totalling 53,750,000.
Mr. �ureshi stated if the HRA chose to receive al� the increments and fulfilled
all its obligations, by 1993, they would have a balance of $6.8 million. He would
like to see some type of policy put together that said how that money could logically
be spent. He stated the HRA has to take come positive action to retain those parcels
in the increment d��tricts. Unless they do that, the money is not collected so they
have to show they are actually doing somethin9 with the money, or have plans for it,
and that those properties have been positively affected by some improvements that have
been done.
HRA AND CITY COUNCIL
SPECIAL JOItIT CONFERENCE HEETING, SEPTEMBER 23, 1986 _ PAGE 3
Mr. Qureshi stated one way to continue to retain the money was through public
improvements, and these pubTic improvements have to be in the qeneral area and
have to show a direct impact on the parcels. The reason the HRA provided help
in the past in some of these areas was because they felt the district could not
develop by itself because of poor soil conditions, draina9e problems, etc.
Mr. Qureshi gave some examples of road improvements, drainage improvements, and
signalization improvements in the P�orth Area that would help develorment in that
area.
Mr, Qureshi showed an overview of some examples of improvements the HRA has
already done. �
Mr. Qureshi asked what level of he7p did the HRA want to provide. If they want
to continue to retain these parcels in the increment district, they have to
provide help. If the HRA provides a high level of help, then a lower level of
help comes fror� the City and the deve]opers. That was what made a development
more feasihle.
Mr. Qureshi showed an overview of the "Improvement Investment Policy for Excess
Increment Funds"
Mayor P�ee stated that the City's ability to finance things from the general
revenue was increasingly limited, This year for the first time in history, the
City's budget went down, and there ��ere a number of reasons for it. Ne stated
that unless it was fairly easy to establish an assessment ber�efit, a lot of these
improvements were going to be difficult for the City. Typically, the City cioes
not pay its share of a signal out of an assessment. It has been done only once
at 69th Ave. 6ecause of the tax readjustment of the assessment formulas and the
levy limits and the slowing down in the development of tax base, partly due tn
fiscal disparities, the City's ability to do some of these thinos was going to
be less and less. There were two choices in which the fIRA could contribute to
that revenue:
l. To take over some of the projects they agree ought to be done in the
way of public improvements.
2. To release the tax base and let the City get an increasing share of it.
The prohlem with releasing the tax base and the City gettino a share of
it was that the City's share was 14i-• If the HRA gets 100°o and can do
what the City thinks ou9ht to be done, that was a much better choice.
Mayor t�ee stated he felt there were some advantages to having the HRA maintain the
productivity of the increment districts at least for tfie next ten years unti7 some
of the basic infrastructure needs are met. If they are in agreement that these are
infrastructure improvements that sor,ieone ought to make for the benefit of the
community, he felt the HRA was the hest body to do that.
Councilman Barnette stated he felt htayor Nee had stated the City Council's
position pretty clearly.
HRA AND CITY COUNCIL
SP[CIAL JOItdT CONFERENCE MEETING, SEPTE�I6ER 23, 1986 PAGE 4
Councilman Fitzpatrick agreed that the Mayor's concerns were also the Council's
concerns. The City needs as much help as it can get if these proiects are aoirn
to be done.
Councilman Goodspeed stated he has looked at many flooded basements in the past
year hecause of water problems from the comnunities upstream from Fridley. Fridley
is not being responsible for its water. For example, every tir�e someone builds
a garage in Coon Rapids, that is another car that goes through Fridley twice a
day generating more traffic, road maintenance, traffic problems, etc., problems
that are caused by people outside Fridley. He felt it Vias appropriate to use this
fundin� from outside Fridley to correct some of the problems inside Fridley.
Councilman Schneider agreed. 41hen the HRA first startec% the Comnission was very
careful and very conservative about capturing the increments so that nothing would
backfire, but there was al��ays that risk. It did work and it seemed to make sense
to solve some of the problems with the money that was captured, doing it reasonably
anrl conservatively. If they have the opportunity and it makes good financial sense
to make some of these improvements, they should do it while the money is there.
Mr. Qureshi stated one of the reasons the City's hudqet was as loo� as it was this
year was because of substantial cuthacks in state aid and federal revenue-sharina.
Mr. Qureshi stated they have to recognize that this tool was available today
and they are under the assumption that this took will be available for several
years, but it might not be available 2-5 years from now.
Mr. Prairie stated the City's budget has been pinched as has the school district
budget. He felt everyone would agree that the possible projects if they were done
would help make the City look better. He hoped they could at some time give the
School District an idea when some of these things might be comin�.
Councilman Barnette stated the Scnool District Yias funded wit_h a per pupil
unit which was about �3,000/pupil. Giving the money back to School District didn'+.
mean the money would go directly to the School District. It goes back to the State,
and he did not know if that meant the School District would get more money per
pupil.
Councilman Schneider asked how much money the School District was saying it needed
because of what it was losing because of the increment districts.
Mr. Qureshi stated the dollar numbers were fairly small. He felt it �ias an issue
that could clearly be resolved with the School D+strict. ffe had told �ir. Prairie
at the last meet}ng that they would work on it and see if there was a viay for the
School District to 9et hack some of what it was losing.
P1r. Commers asked P1r. Pribyl to check with the School District regardinq the
dollar numhers.
NRA At�D CITY COUNCIL
SPGCIAL JOINT CONFERENCE MEETI�IG, SEPTEPiBER 23 1986 P!1GE 5
Mr. Qureshi stated the fiRA still had to make a decision whether or not they wanted
to capture the increment. Otherwise, they would lose it. He wanted some general
guidance tfiat the projects listed were the projects the HRA wanted to fund.
Mayor Nee stated that, as a matter of principle, the City would rather have
control over the tax base than the HRA, but as a practical matter, when it was
added up right, it was hetter for the City to forego access to that tax base.
Ms. Schnabel stated that the projects listed by Mr. Qureshi pretty much related to
puhlic improvements, nothing was specified towards private property development.
Ho�i do the citizens perceive this when the NRA is expendinn a lot of monPy into
puhlic uses versus private development? Does the public get a negative feeling
toeiards this or a positive feeling?
Mr. Qureshi stated he felt if the public improvements are explained to the people
properly, it can be shown how these improvements are helping everyone.
Mr. Conmers stated all the public improvements they have made so far have been
pretty much tied to specific pr�jects. The question now was whether or not the
HRA felt comfortable using this to make purely public improvements which was
not what it was intended for.
Coimcilman Schneider stated it was how the people perceived public improvements.
He has talked with people who ask him Yihy the City was helping private developers;
whereas, they rarely question the improve�nent rrhen it is a road which appears to
be helping everyone.
Councilman Barnette stated he also gets the question of why the City is helping a
private developer make more money. But, when it is explained to them that sa*ie of
the money (using Lake Pointe as an example) will be used to develop a better inter-
section, then people think it is a good idea. The perception he was 9etting was
that if the City can show that these kind of improvements benefit the citizens,
then the 'r�provements are a good idea; but, p�ople do not want to see the City
helping private developments that would probably happen anyway.
Ms. Schnabel stated she felt it was an issue the HRA sh aiid definitely he sensitive to.
Councilman Fitzpatrick stated they really do not knovr what the publ�c reaction is
9oing to be because they have not done the improvements yet.
Mr. Cortmers asked how the HRA was going to know when an improvement was necessary
or apprupriate or when the comnunity wanted it done.
Mr. Qureshi stated the HRA would have to make that judgement.
Mayor pee stated the HRA will have to use 9ood judgement regarding these imorove-
ments; however, some of the improvements seem ta be self-evident.
HRA At�D CITV COUNCIL
SPFCIAL JOINT CONFERENCE MEETIN6, SEPTEMBER 23, 19II6 PAGE 6
Mr. Cormers stated he would like to hear the City Council's opinion about the
issue that now exists where the property owner of Rice Creek Plaza was threatening
the HRA with an inverse condemnation suit if the HRA does noi purchase the
property at this time and where there is a potential dollar value a�reeri upon
betwee��i the ovmer and the Citv.
Mayor f�ee stated the owner was sayinq that the public action by the HRA had damaqed
the property. He felt the public action had, in fact, added value to the property,
He did not think the HRA should react to the inverse condemnation suit, but to ��hat
the public interest might be.
Councilman Barnette stated whether the HRA owned the property or P1r. Levy did not
mal:e any difference to the tenants. The tenants are stilt goinq to be on a montry-
to-month or year-to-year basis. He did not think the City should be in the real
estate business on a long term basis, but they also know a project will go in on
this property eventually. He stated he would not have any objection to the HRA
purchasing the property, but he did not think they should do it under the cloud of
a lawsuit,
Councilman Schneider agreed with Councilman Barnette.
Ms. Schnabe7 stated she still had a strong philosophical problem with the HRl1 owning
a piece of property for any length of time unless they have a firm project. They
decided at the last meeting to table any further consideration until the next
meeting, hoping to know whether or not Mr. Lundgren's project is going to proceed.
She had the feeling that if the Lundgren project does not go that certain fIP.A
menbers, herself included, will not be interested in the purchase; and that, until
they know they have a developer with a concrete development, they will not be
interested in becoming landiords of the property with all its inherent prohlems.
Ms. Schnabel stated the tax laws are getting worse as far as encouraning develop-
ment, and she saw that as a real problem, She did not kno�r if the NRA shoul�i tie
themselves into something if they do not have a developer.
F1r. Meyer stated he had also expressed the concern that because of a chanqe in
the tax la�ts, the HRA was faced with the decision of giving more help to another
development, while Mr. Lundgren's project was floundering, and maybe they should
incleed be "sweetening the pot" for Mr. Lundgren's project which is an important
project.
Mayor Nee stated he felt the southwest corner was a priority area the City has to
resolve. If P1r. Lundgren's project was the right project, maybe they should give
him a little more help,
Mr. Qureshi stated he felt the HRA had to make a statement that it was their general
policy to do improvements on site and public improvements to continue the increment.
Mr, Commers stated it did seem footish to give up the increment at this point.
Ms. Schnagel stated that from the statements she had heard at this neeting, if
they assist the City by doing these improvements, then maybe it was in the City's
best interest to continue what the HRA has been doing, at least for the time being.
HRA AyD CITY COUNCIL
SPECIAL JOINT CONFERENCE PIEETING, SEPTEMBER 23, 1986 PAGE 7
Mr. Qureshi stated they have to look at it from the perspective that this is
needed to foster future quality development.
Mr. Commers stated he felt the HRA members were in favor of that.
Ms. Schnabel stated that regarding the University Ave. Corridor proiect, what she
has seen so far of the plan was exciting and high quality. She felt it was qood
to change the image if it was done as it is being proposed, but it is going to be
fairly costly. The thing that bothered her the most was thai most of the improve-
ments are cosmetic improvements.
Councilman Barnette stated the perception people get cominq into Fridley was not
gond. They see the used car lots, motor homes, fast food restaurants, and empty
spaces, He did not think they could necessarily change all that, but fie felt the
cosmetics were important. The cosmetics will improve the image of Fridley, and
that is what the people will see.
Mayor ��ee stated that every time he goes door to door campaigning, the comments
get better and better in terms of the investments the citizens have made as
individuals on landscapinq and beautification activities the City noYr does, so the
cosmetics are important.
Councilman Goodspeed stated that every developer who wants to devglop in fridley
is required by the City to put extra money into the project for landscapinn and
amenities. The City also has an obligation to live up to the same standards they
require for the businesses.
Mr, Qureshi stated the HRA seems to have agreed they want to retain the increment.
Now, what level of corrmitment of public improvements did they want to make? He
stated they need to develop some general guidelines from those listed for the HP.A.
Mr. Commers asked Staff to put together a list of things they have done in the
past with some criteria and specific facts, so the IIRA can look at it. He wou7d
also like Staff to put together some kind of schedule or timetable on each project
so they know when the monies have to be expended.
r1s. Schnabel stated that as time goes by, the members of the HRA or City Council
could change, and maybe it was a good idea for the HRA to have a plan they should
follow so they do not end up in the middle of a project with a changeover in members
with ilifferent ideas.
Mr. Qureshi stated that as he understood it, it was the general direction of the HRA
to capture the increment, and Staff was asked to lay out a timetable that showe�
the projects they can logically do with the money coming in.
OTIIER QUSI��FSS:
Mr. Qureshi stated he would like the HRA to approve the second billing from
Barton-Aschmann. The first billing was approximate7y �y3,000.
HRA AIJD CITY COUNCIL
SPFCIAL JOINT CONFEREt�CE MEETING, SEPTEMBER 23, 1986 PAr,E 8
MOTION BY MS, SCNNRBEL� SECONDF.D BY MR. MEYER� TO APPROS�E THE BZLLING TO BARTOD'-
ASCHMANN DATED SEPT. Z, I986, ZN TXE AMOUNT OF 59�470,57.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG RYE� CXAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLAR£D THE MOTZON
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
A�JOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned at 10:29 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
�f%'c�t.i �r .C-,-� _
LynA'e Saba
Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, OCTOBER 9, 1986
CALL TO ORDER:
Vice-Chairperson Schnabel called the October 9, 1986, Housing & Redevelopmeot
Authority meeting to order at 7:10 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Presen[: Virginia Schnabel, Duane Prairie, John Meyer
Members Absent: Larry Commers, Walter Rasmussen
0[hers Present: Jock Robertson, HR,4 Executive Director
Nasim Qureshi, City Manager
Dave Newman, HRA Attorney
Rick Pribyl, Finance Director
Julie Burt, Asst. Finance Officer
Barry Warner, Barton-Aschman
Bob Levy, L00 S. 5[h Street
Sherrill Kuretich, Larkin, Hoffman, Daty & Lindgren
Lou Lundgren
(See attached Lis[)
APP�OVAL OF SEPTEMBER 11 1986 HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES:
MOTION BY ME2, PRAIRIE, SECONDED BY MR. MEYER, TO APpROVE THE SEPTEMBER 11,
1986, HQUSING & REDEVELQPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON SCHNABEL DECIAREC THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. PRESENTATION BY BARTON-ASCHMSN REC�IRDING THE UNIVERSITY AVENUE CORRIDOR
STUDY:
Mr. Robertson stated Mr. Warner of Barton-Aschman is present this
evening to review a mas[er plan for the Universit} Avenue Corridor.
He stated this plan is a resul[ of a four month effort with the
Technical Advisory Committee. He stated the Committee met seven
times wi[h the consultant, Barton-Aschman, to consider the upgrading
of University Avenue.
Mr. Robertson stated the primary elements of the plan include highway
landscaping, intersection resurfacing, median tzeatments, fence re-
moval and modification, key intersection treatments, and lighting.
He stated the total cost to impiement this plan is about $2,000,000
and, if plans proceed, it would probably be a two to five Year
project. He stated the improvements would significantly transform the
rural image of University Avenue from [he freeway to SSth Avenue.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING OCTOBER 9 1986 PAGE 2
l�k. Rober[son sta[ed that the staff will review the plan and
then submit it to the HRA and City Council for concept approval
duzing November so priorities can be set for the actual implement-
ation.
Mr. Barry Warner, Senior Associate with Sarton-Aschman, presented
the master p1an. He stated the University Avenue Corridor is
representative of most trunk corridors with a Lot of different
land uses abutting i[.
t�h. Warner stated the Technical Advisory Committee, which was
established to study the corridor, consisted of business people,
residents, and representatives of [he County and State Highway
Departmencs. He stated Barton-Ascha�n also conducted interoiews
with persons in the corridor to obtain their input on what they
would like for the future of University Avenue.
Mr. Warner stated the first task was to define the issues, analyze
opportunities and discuss goals and objectives. He stated the next
step was to generate some alternatives which have been defined as
the mini, midi and maxi strategy and then to prepare a plan with
sketches and cost estimates. He stated everyone had different
feelings on what they envisioned for University Avenue.
h7. Warner stated the Minnesota Department of Transportation
(I.nDOT) had concerns regarding liability and maintenance. He
stated the business people wanted visibility, access and an
attractive setting for their businesses. He stated the residents
were concerned with screening, noise reduction and enhancing the
irtage of the corridor.
hh. Warner stated the goals the Technical Advisory Committee (TAC)
established were (1) improve community image and visual appearance;
(2) create a distinct community identity; (3) treat right-of-way and
property edge commensurate with planned use type; (4) provide for
bicycle and pedestrian movement within or adjacent to the corridor;
(5) improve visual quality of private parcels abutting the corridor;
and (6) improve access from ❑niversity Avenue to adjacent abutting
patcels.
Mr, Warner stated the pla❑ presented this evening is the result of the
work of the Technical Advisory Committee, with participation by the
City staff. He stated the plan addresses the landscaping, lighting
and fencing. He stated it provides for minimal landscaping and
MnDOT wav�Id pro�ide adequate trimming once a year and maintain the
ground cover by mowing three times a year, Mr. Warner stated it was
felt there shoUld be a gradual reforestation plan developed with the
private and public sector working together towards this goal. He
stated one of the major constraints was that MnDOT was looking at
minimal maintenance. Mr. Warner stated the plan clearly delineates
location of trees and changes to be made in the ground cover.
HOUSING & REDE�ELOPMENT AUTNORZTY t�ETING, OCTOSER 9, 1986 PA(� 3
Mr. Warner stated in order to accentuate the principal inter-
sections, there would be a double row of trees on either side and
a single row of trees wherever there is a frontage road. He stated
next to the frontage road, ornamental trees wouid be used [o pro-
vide a statement of color. He stated where there are residential
land uses, coniferous screening would be established. He stated
some coniferous trees could be planted behind major retail busi-
nesses. He stated shrubs and vines may be planted to screen the
existing chain Link fence. He stated it was determined where there
shou!d be upper story tre°s, plants and shrubs, and ornamental trees
and what species to utiLize.
Mr. Warner stated the plan involves a reseeding program. He stated,
even though MnDOT would cut the grass [hree times a year, if it is
maintained as a lawn, it would require the City to mow about once
every [en days. Ae stated the business people felt the grass that is
there now is not attractive and the ground cover is the most distinc-
tive visual element in the corridor.
Mr. Warner stated it is recommended, at [his time, the drainage swales
be maintained, but no[ converted to a fu11 urban section primariLy
due to the cost. He stated MnDOT did not have any interest in this
area.
Nh. Warner stated several lighting alternatives were considered by
the TAC and recommendations made by the City staff. He stated the
firs[ consideration was there should be high level lighting placed in
the median from one end of the corridor to the other. He stated
single poles would be used at the south end of the corridor, with
double poles in the north end. t�h. Warne: stated MnDOT had some re-
servations as they didn't feel University Avenue warranted this level
of lighting.
Mr. Warner stated another alternative was to lower the lighting by
using a 30 foot po1e, with more of an architecturally trea[ed light,
on the frontage roads only. He stated this would provide an attrac�ive
setting for businesses adjacent to the frontage roads and help delineate
the Location of the frontage roads. He stated they attempted to light
the roadway to a standard acceptable from the highway design standpoint.
He stated he felt this alternative is more appropriate.
Th�. Warner stated Landscaping the median was discussed. He stated if
this is done, a jersey barrier would have to be provided. He stated
PfiDOT maintains that if trees are installed in the median, cars must
be protected, He stated it is recommended this idea not be pursued
as it would be very costly and difficul[ to maintain, primarily when
snow removal is necessary.
hh. Warner stated it is recommende�i the chain link fence abutting
commercial properties be removed, but remain in the residential uses.
He stated it was felt when the existing fence goes through its life
cycle, it should be replaced with vinyl-clad fencing.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING OCTOBER 9 1986 PAGE 4
Mr. Warner stated there was a recommenda[ion that a11 hard sur-
faced items, whe[her it be signals, lights, poles, etc., to be
painted a uniform dark color such as brown to blend into the l8nd-
scaping.
Mr. Warner stated specific treatments for different intersections
were recommended. He s[ated at 85th Avenue, brick and wrought iron
are used to make a statement [hat you are entering the City of
Fridley. He stated the median in the roadway is trea[ed with the
same brick or inter-locking paving system, with a backdrop of coni-
ferous trees flanked on either side by wrought iron fencing and brick
columns. He stated this same design was earmarked for the 57th Avenue
intersection.
hh. Warner stated at the Mississippi Street and Osborne Road inter-
sections, double rows of canopy [rees would be provided, with rolorful
landscaping with flowering shrubs and trees, and the wrought iron
fence with brick columns. He stated the same family of materials
would be used at a11 the intersections and sidewalks would be pro-
vided to the bus stops. �
Mr. Warner stated it was recommended the reader board at the City
Hall be moved to Columbia Arena.
Mr. Warner submitted cost estimates for this plan covering reseeding,
reforestation, median-urban section from 69th to 85th Avenue, Iighting
options (median and frontage road), and fencing. The costs were
further broken down for each interesection, 57th Avenue, Mississippi
Street, Osborne Road and 85th Avenue. I�h. Warren sta[ed the total
es[imated costs are $2,000,000 for all the improvements.
Mr. Warner atated the master plan meets or surpasses the majority of
the objectives of the TAC, but would take some time to accomplish.
He stated it would take commitment and may involve both the public
and private sector. hh. Warren stated at the onset of this process,
everyone obviously had different feelings, however, as discussions
progressed, there was a 1ot of compromises.
hh. Qureshi asked hh. Warner if he had estimates of on-going mainten-
ance costs for these improvements.
�,[,'arner stated he did not have these figures available at this time,
however, several factors have to be taken into consideration such as
whether this would be maintained by the public or if the private sector
assumes some responsibility. He stated he didn't have specific figures
at this time, but could supply them.
Ph, Qureshi stated he felt it would be important to know the maintenance
costs.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING. OCTOBER 9, 1986 PAGE 5
hh. Qureshi stated if the concept of this plan is approved, he
asked if the different elements contain enough detail to allow
implementation over a number of years.
h�. Warner stated it is assumed the improvements would be done
under the public bidding process and some detailed engineering
surveys may have to be done, especially for the intersections.
Ms. Schnabel stated it seemed the TAC members were most interested
in the condition of the grass and fence and access to che bus
shelters, particularly in the winter. She stated she knows there
are a lot of maintenance costs involved and this should be a
legitimate concern.
Mr. Qureshi stated no such trees should be planted that would obstruct
businesses.
I�fr ,k'arner stated the plant matrix shows which canopy trees would
be acceptabLe snch as Honey Locust because they are more open and
transparent in comparison to a Maple which is �ch more dense.
Ms. Schna6el stated the last thing they would want to do is block
the 6usinesses' exposure.
Mr, prairie asked if thecosts submitted were based on a"midi" plan.
�, Warnerstated the TAC reviewed [he different elements and felt
this plan was, basically, a midi.
Pfr , prairie asked if there is any timetable for these improvements.
hfr. Warren felt if the resources were available to pursue it, it
could be accompLished in a three to five year staging, He s[ated a
five year target for the plan is reasonable.
�, Warner stated the oppor[�nity to work with MnDOT is there as they
were receptive to many of these ideas. He felt MnDOT took a much
more liberal view, when the final plan was submitted, then when the
process first began.
Ms. Schnabel felt it would be helpful to establish what elements of
the plan would be accomplished at certain times so perhaps the
business community avd residential area in that section can partici-
pa[e. She etsted it would be helpful if the business people planted
the conifers and took an interest in helping to maintain the median
in front of their business.
Ms. Schnabel stated an area which she felt the business co�nunity
wished to improve was the drainage ditches.
hh, Prairie s[ated it would be expensive to have underground drain-
age. He also questioned how they could eliminate the cattails.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, OCTOBER 9, 1986 PAGE 6
I�h. Warner stated runoff water would have to be piped and this
would invoLve a 1ot of agencies such as the Rice Creek Watershed
District and the Department of Transportation. He stated MnDOT
did not want to pu[ in an urban section. He stated the
cattails don't appear uniformly in the ditches. He felt
with some regrading , water would not be standing• Then seeding
may help this problem.
hh. Qureshi stated it would be no problem to eliminate the cattails,
but stated they do serve a useful purpose for filtration.
Ms. Schnabel stated if the chain link fence was removed on the east
side of University from 57th Avenue to Mississippi Street, the grass
improve� and Lighting instaLled on the frontage road, it would visually
open up the corridor.
Councilman Schneider asked if an inflation fac[or was considered in
the cost estimate. Mr. Warner stated a 10% inflation was included in
the estimate.
A'h. Qureshi asked if anything of this na[ure has been done in the
metropolitan area, He felt it would be helpful to actually see how
elements of the plan have been implemented. t�fr. Warner stated there
is a development at 98th and Lyndale in BLoomington which has similar
characteristics.
Mr. Qureshi asked what special elements were considered. Mr, Warner
stated a variety of vertical elements were reviewed such as fountains,
banners, clock tower, e[c. He stated the majority of the TAC members
felt they were too significant and didn't fit in with the suburban
feeling.
Ms. Schnabel stated she personally didn't like the banners and the
clock [ower idea was not we11 received. She felt the members wanted
something a little more restrained.
Ms. Schnabel stated she felt this was a quality plan which would help
promote a positive image for the City.
Mr. Qureshi asked if there was discussion on 'what means would be taken
to maintain the grass area and if a sprinkling system was necessary.
i�. Warner stated he wouldn't recommend a sprinkling system for the
corridor. He felt a good grass mixture wouLd suffice and survive dur-
ing the drier months. He stated there is also a grass that [olerates
salt and would suggest this be part of [he grass mixture.
I�b-. Meyer stated his only reservation is the gates. He stated, to him,
this means do not enter and is not hospitable. He felt they would be
costly�and expengive to maiutain. He feit the other elements of the
plan are refreshing and would "tidy-up" the corridor.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTElORITY MEETING, OCTOBER 9, 1986 PAGE 7
Ms. Schnabel stated she had some of these reservations herself.
She sta[ed there was discussion o❑ whether these gates should be
lower. She sta[ed if they were Lower, there may be a problem with
children jumping over them or it may also reduce their visibility.
Councilma❑ Schneider asked if any input was received by o[her
persons besides those serving on the Technical Advisory Committee.
Ms. Schnabel stated Barton-Aschman interviewed a number of people
along [he corridor rPgarding their concerns. She stated as the
Committee process:proceeded, less people attended. She stated the
impetus for [his study came from the people in the north and there
was really little input from them. She stated she would be sensitive
if they had a lot of criticism because she felt they didv't partici-
pate. She stated the feeling she go[ was they just wanted the
cattails removed. She felt a lot more input was needed from people
before a commitment is made to proceed with this plan.
Mr. Prairie stated there is no question something should be done to
improve the University Avenue Corridor, but he didn't [hink it would
cost this much.
Mr. Meyer fel[ if they spent half of this estimated amount, they
could probably sti11 have a tremendous project.
Ah. Robertson sta[ed he had a differen[ perspective on the partici-
pation. He felt participation decreased after some of the controversial
items were settled.
Nh. Qureshi felt there should be a hearing to involve participation
by the 6usiness community and residents and receive their input.
Ms. Schnabel thanked Mr. Warner for his presentation.
2. REPORT ON LAKE POINTE CORPORATE CENTER:
t�h. Robertson stated the HRA has a copy of a letter written by Dave
Newman to Pfr. Weir, Woodbridge Properties, Inc., in which he answers
sevexal issues raised by Mr. Eric Nesset. He stated the issues
involved State aid road funding, location of the proposed road, and
turnback property located along Highway 65.
Nh. Robertson stated Lake Pointe Drive is designated as a State aid
street and Mr. Weir wished to i:now if they would have any additional
funds going irato their project by this designation. He stated I�k.
Newman's anscrei ,aas they would no[ as the City receives these funds
based on a certain formula,
hk. Robertson stated t�k. Weir's second question concerned the align-
ment for a 30 mph curve at the north end of their project and wondered
if this would drastically reduce their building area, Mr, Robertson
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING OCfOBER 9 1986 PAGE 8
stated when the HRA approved the plat, it was known there would be
a minor adjustment when the curve was engineered by the consultan[.
He stated whe❑ the engineering was completed, at the point the first
building, the curve was almost at the same distance as shoam in the
preliminarv plat.
Ah. Robertson stated the third issue raised involved [he question
of turnback property along Highway 65. He s[ated staff's positionwas that
as soon as the title is researched and engineering completed
on the in[ersection with West Moore Lake Dcive and Highway 65, Che
Ci[y would be in a position [o consider [urning the title over to
Woodbridge. He stated this may take several months because of the
process involved.
Mr. Newman called the HRA's attention to a let[er he had submitted to
them da[ed Sep[ember 23, 1986 regarding the in[erpretation of the
subordina[ion condi[ions in the redeveLopment contract between Lake
Pointe and the HRA. He stated the intent is that this is a true
subordination clause. Mr. Newman outlined the scenarios contained
in his letter in the event there was a foreclosure. He stated the
zoning restric[ions would still be in force,so whoever owned the
property would have to comply.
Nh. Newman stated in the last several weeks, the contrac[or has
stated he feels there is a larger amount of peat on this site than
wha[ was disclosed in the soil tests. He stated we i�ave taken the
position that the contract was for a Lump sum.
Mr. Qureshi stated these issues are submitted as informational and
require no action by the HRA.
3. UPDATE ON LUNDGREN'S UNIVERSITY AVENUE APARTMENT PROJECT:
hfr . Qureshi, City Manager, stated the HItA entered into a development
agreement with Mr. Lundgren Last year, He sta[ed the agreement pro-
vided that the developer perform certain obligations by August 1,
1986 or else he would be in default. Ae stated there was a clause
in the agreement which would a11ow the developer an additional 60
days to cure Che defaul[. He stated [he HRA proceeded on this basis
and this period ended on October 1, 1986.
tfir. Qureshi stated he has indicated to the developer that the additional
time given to him to cure the default has expired. He stated unLess
Mr. Lundgren could have come up with a firm finaRCial CO�itment, with no
stipulations o[her than land con[rol, he would recommend the HRA draw
on the Letter of credit. He stated there no longer is anv leqal
rela[ionship with the develager , the HRA can draw on the letter of credit.
letter of credit.
Ms. Kuretich, attorney representing 2�. Lundgren, stated she was
recently retained bp Mr. Lundgren to represent him in conjunction
with this project. She stated she understands this project has a
long history and the developmant agreement was i❑ exis[ance for a
considerable period of time. She stated due to the Tax Reform Act,
and the pending nature of that action, it has been difficult for any
developer to put together a financing package.
�-
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING OCTOBER 9 1986 PA(�; 9
She s[ated because of the uncertainty with not knowing what would
happen in regard to the tax reform,it has been impossible to raise
financing.
Ms. Kuretich stated Mr. Lundgren is $1,000,000 short of the funds
necessary to finance this project and he is working diligently to
raise the equity. She s[ated since the terms of the Tax Reform Act
are now known, there is some framework in which to work. She
requested the HRA not draw on Mr. Lundgren's letter of credit for
at Least another 30 days. She stated [his would not take away the
HRA's ability to negotiate with other developers in [he meantime.
Mr. Lundgren stated he is going to Chicago next week and believed
he could raise the necessary financing in 30 days. He stated he
is ready to proceed as far as the construction. He stated, a[ the
presen[ time, he has $700,000 at risk in the project. He stated
if the HRA can be indulgent for a short time more, he believed there
would be a turning point, t�fr. Lundgren stated he has over $240,000
invested in the plans alone and has with surveying and soil tests
and, Lega1 fees, the amount exceeds $500,000. He stated the
other $200,000 involves the let[er of credit.
bh. Lundgren stated he needs $800,000 to have 100% of the financing.
He stated he would borrow this amount and sell a part of the equity
to persons who purchase the zero coupon bonds.
Ms. Schnabel asked Mr. Lundgren if he doesn't find someone who is
interested in the zero coupon bonds, wha[ would be [he status of
the projec[,
Mr. Lundgren stated the people he is meeting with in Chicago will
handle the issue, assuming a deal can be structured. He stated if
he cannot come up with satisfactory financing for the total project
in 32 davs the HRA can cash the letter of credit.
ih. Meyer stated assuming the financing can be ob[ained and the
projec[ proceeds, he asked if there would be any change in the
quality of the development or rents to be charged.
Mr. Lundgren stated the rents are set by the market place. Re stated
he is working on ways to reduce the costs. He stated, however, the
staff and HR4 wouLd have to approve any changes proposed.
Ms. Kuretich stated when Mr. Lundgren entered into the development
agreement with the HRA, i[ was assumed tax exempt bonds could be used.
She stated the lower the interest rate, the greater the mortgage
that could be obtained. She stated when the Tax Reform Act was
introduced, it became impossible ta use tax exempt financing for
housing. She stated rent restrictions were so severe that you
couldn't charge rents high enough to pay the mortgage which means
going into the conventional market at higher interest rates.
HOUSING 6 RIDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING OCTOBER 6 1986 PAGE 10
Ms. Kuretich stated Mr. Lundgren wants to go into the equity
market and find the way to raise the difference between the
equity he can provide and the mortgage amount available to him.
She stated up until the Tax Reform Act was signed, no one could
even obtain equity.
t�h�. Newman stated as far as the HRA's obligation to Mr. Lundgren,
there is none. He stated he understands, from talking to Ms. Kure-
tich, they are not contesting [he fact the HRA has [he right to
negotia[e with another developer. He stated they are only requesting
the HRA not to draw on the let[er of credit for 30 days.
Ms. Schnabel stated the HAA's next meeting is not until November 13
so if they agreed not to draw on this letter of credit for 30 days,
it would actually be over [his time period.
Mr. Qureshi stated if the HRA approves Mr. Lundgren's request, it
should only be for 30 days to give staff time to review the proposal
and submit a report for the meeting.
Mr. Meyer asked what specific changes were made in the plans for [his
project.
bh. Lundgren stated the swimming pool area had a complicated pre-cast
beam roof sec[ion with a skylight. He stated this was changed and
in that area there was a stairway to the pool and a handicapped ramp.
He stated they have changed the pool so it is on the same level as
the party room and there is no need for the stairs or ramp. He
stated they re-examined costs in order to obtain a$500,000 reduction
and rebid several of the items. He stated the changes would have to
be shown in detail and the HRA agree to them, if the project proceeds.
Mr. Meyer stated he would take a dim view if the quality of the
project was lowered.
Mr. Lundgren stated he knows staff wishes a high �uality building
and he would provide such a buildivg.
Mayor Nee stated it didn't seem, by not drawing on the Le[ter of
credit for 30 days, to put the HRA in an adverse position. He stated
the option is still open for the HRA to review any other proposaLs
they receive.
2�TION BY Mft. MEYER, SECONDED BY MR, PRAIRIE, TO DEFER DRAWING ON
MR, LUNDGREN'S LETTER OF CREDIT TO NOVEMBER 10, 1986.
Ms. Schnabel stated the 30 days comes before the HRA's next meeting
and asked hh. Meyer if it was his intent for staff to activate this
procedure.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORiIi MEETIRG OCTOBER 9 1986 PA(',E 11
Nh. Meyer stated tha[ was not his intent. He stated it ww ld take
an officiai action by the HRA to activate the letter of credit.
P7. Newman stated staff would not take the necessary steps to draw
on the Letter of credit until an action was taken by the HI2A, how-
ever, staff would Like to know where I�fr . Lundgren stands before the
HRA's next meeting.
UPON A VOICE VOTE TAKEN ON THE ABOVE MOTION, ALL VOTED AYE, AND VICE-
CHAIRPERSON SCHNABEL DECIARED THE I�TION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
4. UPDATE ON NEGOTIATIONS FOR ACQUISITION OF THE RICE PLAZA SHOPF�NG
CENTER:
Mr. Qureshi, City Manager, stated there has been discussion bv the
HRA regarding the Rice Plaza Shopping Center. He stated staff's
recommendation is not to acquire property unless the HRA has a need
for i[.
Ms. Schnabel stated in the memo the HRA received from Samantha Orduno,
it was indicated that certain members of the Council supported this
acquisition. She stated she didn't come away from this joint meeting
with as strong a feeling.
Mr. Qureshi s[ated if the HRA decided to acquire [he property, i[ may
have some political implications for the Council.
Mayor Nee stated he does not have a political problem with Che HRA
owning [he properCy, but it doesn't seem like a very good idea.
Councilman Schneider stated he doesn't have a problem with the HR'.
acquiring this property, if they felt something is relatively
iimninent for development and if i[ is the right price.
Mr. Levy, representing Rice Plaza Shopping Center, stated they have
lost prospective tenants when they alert them to the possibilities
of what may happen to this property. He stated Ron's Pub is out of
business because of the owner's health problems. He stated a buyer
for this business was lost because of the possibility of the space
being taken.
Mr. Levy stated, in regard to I�h. Lundgren's project, [ax exempt
financing is still available and being used for multiple family
housing. He cited examples in Robbinsdale and Brooklyn Center where
housing bonds were issued. He stated he has no idea what the differ-
ences were in those projects compared to Mr. Lundgren's.
Ph. Qureshi stated no one is saying there are no projects being
financed under tax exempt bonds. He stated because of rent restrictions,
it would affect the quality of the project,
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMEtiT AlJTF10&ffTY MEETING OCTOBER 9 1986 PAGE 12
Mr. Meyer stated the question on the acquisition of this property
was deferred on the basis the Lundgren project was still in abey-
ance.
N¢. Levy stated his client has been looking for a resolution to
this issue and the mat[er has been pending since May. He stated
if [he HRA wishes to defer ac[ion, it is their prerogative, but
wan[ them to understand his client has direc[ed him to take some
action and he would file a mandamus action. He stated this type
of action is expedited through the court, and would include counts
of business Liable.
Mr. New�n stated there is no question the HI2A would incur some
legal fees right away, af[er this ac[ion is filed. He stated after
30 days, they would probably increase significan[Ly. He sta[ed he
[alked with Mr. Levy this afternoon and he recognizes that if the
HIU1 denies his request, he would commence Litigation. He stated a
willingness was expressed to keep the Lines of communication open
in the event things changed.
Ah, Prairie stated this issue has been discussed so many times that
the feeLings of the absent members, Ns. Rasmussen and Pk. Commers,
are known.
Pk. Levy stated their asking price is $1,OOS,OOD. Mr. Newman stated
the County's appraisal was $974,000.
i-ss, Prairie stated he didn�t have so much of a problem with the
dollar amount, but what will happen to the property and when is the
real issue.
Mayor Nee asked if [he HRA had funds to cover acquisition of this
property. Ms, Schnabel stated if they sacrifice somewhere else.
Mr. Meyer stated if the Lundgren development proceeds, it would 6e
desirable to acquire this property.
Mr. Qureshi stated if 2�h. Lundgren's project had proceeded, the HR?
would have the funds tp acquire this property. He stated the
question is if the HRA wants to acquire property where they actually
don't have a project.
Pff . Meyer sta[ed he recognizes the argument that the HRA doesn't
acquire property unLess they have a need for it. He stated, on the
other hand, this is a unique situatio❑ where an owner has feLt he
is aggrieved enough to get into a Legal action.
t�fr. Qureshi felt the decision should be made on the general policy
and not the 1ega1 issue. He stated the HI2A should consider that
there are other proper[ies in this same sicuation.
HOUSING & RIDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING OCTOBER 9 1986 PAGE 13
CounciLman Schneider asked if the HItA acquired the property, if
there would be a cash flow.
hh. Levy stated the parcel includes vacant land which does not
genera[e revenue. He stated he would have to check the rentals
as there is one vacancy and another short-term lease. He stated
if the fiRA acquires the property, a decision would have to be made
if it was in their best interests to renew leases.
MQTION BY MR. PRAIRIE, TO NOT ACQUIRE THE RICE PLAZA SHOPPING CENTER
AT THIS TIME.
VICE-CHAIRPERSON SCHNAB£L DECLARED THE MOTION FAILED FOR LACK OF A
SECOND.
Mr. Levy stated his client feels used and abused by this process of
the HRA. He s[ated discussion began in May and was deferred until
tlugust to reach an agreement on the dollar figure. He stated, in
September, the item was tabled until this meeting, and now not even
a �tion can get passed.
Nh. Levy stated the bottom line is the HRA was waiting to see what
developed with Mr. Lundgren's project before this issue was addressed.
Ne stated this is one of [he most frus[rating experiences his father
wi11 have in real esta[e. Mr. Levy stated his father built Ho11y
Center in 1958 and then Rice Plaza, when others were building south,
and tried to be a good citizen for 30 years. He stated his father
was not shown the same level of respect in the HRA's response to this
issue. He stated he felt the answer give❑ this evening could have
come six months ago and they would have been finished with the court
process.
Ms. Schnabel stated she appreciated the Levy contribution to the
community. She stated this isn't an action against the Levy's, but
a philosophical issue of the HRA owning property.
�h. Newman stated he felt what has haPpened is a number of the HRA
members were philosophicalLy opposed and, if Nh. Lundgren's project
had proceeded, the HRA would have the means to purchase the property
and satisfy hfr. Levy's needs. He felt it is not the question of
trying to avoid the issue, but a process that was used to accomplish
the goals and objectives of the HItA and, unfortunately, it failed.
5. STATUS REPORT ON BELC�.RDE'S UNIVERSITY AVENUE APARTMENT PROJECT:
Mr. Rober[son stated that a meeting was �eld at the Springbrook Nature
Center with the Springbrook Nature Foundation, the developer of
this praject aad City staff. He stated the developer's plans were
presented and the architectural elements reviewed along with the
ponding, drainage, and berming.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING. OCTOBIIt 9. 1986 PAGE 14
�
h7. Robertson stated the berms would be located on the project
property, as we11 as the Nature Center property. He stated
there was some degree of agreement by the Nature Center Foundation
that this would enhance the cen[er. He stated screening, land-
scaping and Lot access was also discussed.
Mr. Roberrson stated the Foundation understands that the developer
will begin the process for rezoning. He stated staff has reviewed
subseq�ent improvemen[s, changes in [he site plan, aesthetics and
landscaping and is ready to recommend approval of this project.
Mr. Robertson stated the request for financing assistance made to
the F[ItA has not changed since the last time discussions were held
on this project. He stated the HRA did agree to provide assis[ance
in the amount of $850,000 for purchase of the property which would
be returned to [he iiRA in the form of a second mortgage.
Mr. Qureshi stated the HRA had given conceptual approval of the
agreement and staff is now working [o finalize this agreement.
He stated when this is completed, it will be brought back to the
HRA for action.
Ms. Schnabel asked if any response was received from [he YMCA.
I�. Robertson stated the only response received was regarding the
alignment of the road.
Nh. Qureshi, City Manager, stated t�ff. Paschke's building is substantially
completed, except for a few areas where items have not as yet been
installed. He stated his only concern involves the driveway easements
which have not been recorded. He stated if the HRA wishes to release
the $13,500 for soil correction assistance and authorize staff to
issue a Certificate of Completion, it should be subject to the Ci.ty
obtaining [he driveway easements.
MOTION BY MR, MEYER, SECONDEA BY MR, PRAIRIE, TO APPROVE RELEASING
$13,500 IN SOIL CORRECTION ASSISTANCE FOR LOT 4, BLOCK 4, UNIVERSITY
7NDUSTRIAL PARK, SUBJECT TO THE NECESSARY EASEMENTS BEING RECORDED
AT THE COE?NTY FOR THE DRIVEW.�YS, THESE EASEMENTS ARE FOR 50 FEET
BETWEEN LOTS 4 AND 7, AND EASEMENT TO COVER THE WESTERLY 50 FEET
OF LOTS 1,2,3,L, 7 AND 8, BLOCK 4, UNVERSITY INDUSTR7AL PARK,
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAZRPERSON SCHNABEL DECUIRED
TI3E MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
�
HOUSING S REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING, OCTOBER 9, 1986 P�GE 15
7.
Mr. Robereson stated a[ the last meeting, the HRA appTOVed contracts
for Sunde to be the eupervisingengineer for the Lake Pointe develop-
menc, He stated Subterranean Engineering was initially retained
by Woodbridge Propez[ies to conduct preliminary soil borings and
analysis for [heir development site. He stated they wi11 continue
to provide engineering support for this project and, for reporting
purposes, both Sunde and Subterranean prefer this be handled by a
direct contract with the HRA /Cit}'. He stated the work undertakin b��
Subterranean, howevez, will be under the direction of the supervising
engineer.
MOTION BY I�H2. PRAIRIE, SECONDED BY MR. MEYER, TO APPkOVE RESOLUTION N0,
HRA 19-1986.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON SCHNABEL DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8. CLAIMS:
MOTION BY MR. PRAIRIE, SECONDED BY I�t. MEYER, TO APPROVE THE CU1IM5 AS
SUBMITTED.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON SCHNABEL DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
9. OTkiER BUSINESS•
Mr. Robertson stated the Northern Mayor's Association is undertaking
an analysis to promote economic development in the northern suburbs.
He stated a comparison would be made involving other metropolitan
regions in the United States. He stated the report would be avail-
able in early February and fel[ it would give good background data
on what is happening in the marketplace today,
ADJOURNMENT •
MOTION BY M[t. PRAIRIE, SECONDED BY MR. MEYER, TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. UPON
A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON SCHNABEL DECLARED THE
OGTOBER 9, 1986 HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING ADJOURNED AT
11:05 p.m.
Respectfully submit[ed,
Carole Haddad
Recording Secretary
� �2 �� , i�z _ ;�/y�.� �
�
-�
; -=rr�-c�'
� �,.�C(JQ�; ���r�� S
Ii . .; �` � <y v''
�
dl,F-�i"�,JL, V_�f; � ;l_�-=J,,
(��/ �> ,j�
�'.� {i � i i Cl �- 6/I�LL.i U-C ✓
��.s(Cj'` Y�AKNt�
i i�i''•f' -'/` f `�i ✓:�'t� }
�' ' ' f-y� ',�
� �' f<� - �.-1 ��, -r.��
/ � ..' , .. J � ✓1�._%/
� o
��.�t,��(.-Z� f�,Lti «<-�
�� ����
�����
,jrj �� i-,��✓�_'O�n/ = 1"� ! ',,.
i
�% J ,� /✓� � � _ �'�:� ; /''�"1 - ��
�.. �
/�;/ ` �� ( �'�,'" r y /�� {''r , h' l� � i � C>' r- i
�tl •t/ ��;v�c; /
l./��
;
a Tv ii f �..'//,.�.!
I C C _ _, � . , � , _. _ �
i� if � �
�-c� ��—�c.%�.i:
/i
j ,/
X o i�-,.-, .�%�'�..�� �� ,<. ,�_.,� r,
CITY OF FRIDLEY
APPEALS COMt4IS5I0�J PtEETIN6, OCTOBER 28, 1986
CALL TO ORf7ER:
Chairperson Betzold called the October 28, 1986, Appeals Commission meetinn to
order at 7:33 p,m.
ROLL CALL:
Menbers Present
Menbers Ahsent:
Otliers Present:
Donald Betzold, Alex 6arna, Jerry Sherek, Diane Savage
���
Darrel Clark, City of Fridley
Donald Froom, 940 Pandora Drive
George & Lillian Arnold, 6201 Riverview Terrace
APPROVAL OF SEPTFMBER 30, 1986, APPEALS COMPIISSION htEETI"Jr,:
MO^7010 BY MR. BAR^IA� SECONDED AY MS. SAI�AGE� TO APPROI'E _THE SEPT. 30� 19B6,
APPEALS COPfMZSS20R MINUTES.
The following corrections were made to the minutes:
Pa�es 7 ancl 11, change P1s. Sherek to P1r. Sherek.
Motion on hottom of page 6, change the vote as follows: "U�on a��oice vote,
Barna, Savage, and Sherek voting aye, 6etzold votinn nav, Chairperson Betzold
declared the motion carried." '
UPON A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTIPIG AYE� CHAIRPERSON BF.TZOLD DF,CZ.ARED THF. MZNUTF,S
APPROVED A_S AMF.NDED.
1. CONSIDERATION OF A
VAR #86-29. [3Y DOf�ALD FROOPi. PUP,SUA�JT
THE
MOTION BY MR. BARNA, SECONDED BY MS, SAVAGE� TO OPEN TNE Pi/BLZC HEARING.
UPOti A VOZCE VOTF.� ALL VOTIf7G AYE, CHAFRPF.RSON BF.TZOLP DF.CLARED TN.£ PUBLIC
HEARING OPEN RT 7:35 P.M.
Chairperson Betzoid read the Administrative Staff Report:
ADF1IPIiSTR2ATIVE STAFF REPORT
94D Pandora Drive
VAR �86-29
APPEALS C�iMI5SI0N MEETING, ";"TOBER 28, 1986 PAGE 2
A. PU(3LIC Pf1RPOSE SERVED RY REQIIIREMENT:
Section 205.07.3, D, 2b requires a side yard adjoining an attached
garage shall be not less than 5 feet wide.
Puhlic purpose served by this requirer�ent is to provide space hetween
individual structures to reduce the conflagration of fire, to provide
access to the rear yard for emergencies, and to limit the condition of
crowding in the residential neighborhood.
B. STATFD HARDSNIP:
"We need storage for a boat and extra car,"
C. AD�IIPIISTRATIVE STAFF REVIE41:
This is t}ie same request that was denied in June of 1985. The neighbor,
Mr. Wallraff, objected in 19R5. Since then, the Wallraffs have sol�i
their house to Mr. H. Richard Kalm. He has signed a statement that he
does not object. In fact, he states he would rather look at a garage
addition in lieu of the present boat being stored there.
Mr. Froom would like to add onto his existing garage enough to attain
a 20 ft. garage. This would result in a 3 ft. side yard. The neighbor-
inc� house would then be 13 feet away at the back and 17 feet at the front.
If the Appeals Commission approves this request, the Staff recommends
that it stipulate that there be no o�enings in the west wall and that
it be a fire-rated wall.
Mr. Betzold stated the Cormissioners had copies of the hiay 74, 19R5, Appeals
Cormission minutes and the June 3, 1985, City Council minutes, and a copy of
the letter from the neighbor, Hr. Kalm, statinq he did not object to tha
garage addition.
Mr. Clarl: stated
at which time the
the City Council
request.
this same request was before the Appeals Commission in 1985,
Appeals Commission recorrmended denial. On June 3, 19R5,
concurred with the Appeals Comnission and denied the variance
Mr. Clark stated one of the things discussed in 1985 was the hardship, and
the fact that an adjoining neighhor appeared before the Appeals Commission and
the City Council objecting to the variance, because he felt the garage addition
would block his view down the street from his bedroom window.
Mr. Froom stated the present garage was ]3 ft. wide. He would like to extend
the wa7] of the gara9e 7 ft, to make a 20 ft. garage. He wanted room to store
both his boat and car or two cars. He was a7lowed by code to add on 5 ft.
which would give him o�ly 78 ft, which was toa small and the cost was basically
the same to go from 5 ft. to 7 ft.
APPEALS C0�41ISSION PtEETING OCTOBER 2II 1986 PAGE 3
t4r. Barna stated he would lii;e to see more of a hardship. There was 26 ft.
on the other side of the house, sa there was enough room for the construction
of a detactied garage in the rear yard, either converting the existing garage
to living space or using it as a second accessory building. He realized it
was cheaper to just add 7 ft. onto the existing garage, but the Commission
was not alloo�ed to look at cost as a hardship.
Mr. Froom stated he lived alone and did not need any additional living space.
He stated a detached garage would take up a great deal of his back yard, and
he already had a utility shed and a 620 sq. ft. deck behind the house.
P1r. Clark stated the present zoning code requires a 2-car garage.
Mr. Sherek asked t1r.Froom if he would consider extending the gara9e out to the
back which would allow for storage of the boat in the back of the garage.
Mr. Froon stated that would give him a 48 ft. deep lonq narrow tunnel-type
of garage. fie would have to run the roof back, cut 10-12 ft. off his deck,
and take down some trees. He did not think he would consider building a
tunnel-type gerage. There was no extra resale value with that type of garage.
MOTION BY MR. BARNR, SECOb'DED BI' P1S. SAVAGE, TO CLOSE 2NE PUBLIC XEARIA.!G.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLAR£D THE PUBLIC
HEARZNG CLOSED AT 7:52 P.N,.
Pis. Savage stated it appeared to her one of the biggest problems the last time
this variance was before the Co��ission was the strong objection by the
neighbor. This variance aias certainly important to Mr. Froom as he was back
again asking for it. She felt there was a hardship in having a single car
garage, and the fact that a double car garage is really required by anyone
buying a house in the suhurbs. Apparently, similar variances have been
granted in the area.
Ms. Savage stated she was concerned by the fact that adding the 7 ft. did not
leave very much room between the two houses, but that seemed to be the
situation with other houses in the neighborhood and was created by the fact
that these houses were built some time ago when houses were built with single
car garages. She would be willing to approve the variance for the reasons of
the uni4ue quality of the house and the way it was offset on the lot and
because, apparently, similar variances have been granted in this area in the
past. She did not think P1r. Froom had totally articulated his hardship, but
it was obviously something he felt he needed.
Mr. Barna stated he had looked over the public purposes served by the code
require�nent:
l. "To provide space between incfividual structures to reduce conflagra-
tion of fire--"
APPEALS COMMISSION PiEE?ING, OCTOBER 28, 1986 PAGF 4
Mr. Barna stated by demanding a fire-rated wall,they would more
or less meet that requirement, rea7izing this was adjoining a
bedroom area.
2. "To provide access to the rear yard for emergencies--"
Mr. Barna stated that due to the fact that the house was offset
on the lot, there was more than adequate access on the easterly
side of the house or provide that access to the rear yard.
3. "To limit the condition of crowding in a residential neighborhood--"
Mr. Barna stated that with the 26+ ft, on the opposite side of the
house, the only crowding would be to a distance of 13 ft. and 17 ft.
between 940 Pandora and 930 Pandora, and a similar crowding situation
has already been established in the area by previous structures
being build close together.
Mr. Barna stated Mr. Froom had stated a hardship with a second accessory
building in that he does not need the additional living space which was
presently a garage. He only needs a small additional space. To take the
9ara9e down and build another garage would create a hardship. Changing the
design and the structure of the house would also limit the access to the deck
and it would not really enhance the resale value of the property. Usinq those
reasons as hardships, he would be in favor of granting the variance.
Mr. Sherek stated he had serious misgivings whenever a petitioner came before
the Cor�nission asking for a variance that was really asking to crowd houses
together. He had a difficult time with the hardship. There were other possi-
bilities, and, financially, it would certainly be a hardship, but that was not
really the Commission's primary consideration. His vote would reflect his
interest in having the City Council look at this request. If the City Council
was wiliing to have a suburban area start looking crowded much as the older
parts of Minneapolis, then that was their decision. The fact that a precedent
had been set for this did not make him want to be in favor of approving the
variance.
Mr. Betzold stated he agreed with everything said by the other commissioners.
His initial reaction when he read throu,qh this variance request was that the
only thing that was d4fferent from the previous request was that before there
was a neighbor objecting to the variance and this time there was not. The
request was denied before, and did t,hat m�an they shauld grant the request
now simply because there was no neighborhood objection? That really was not
the test the Commission had to consider. It woutd be very easy to grant or
deny variances if that was all they had to do. In the City Council minutes
of June 3, t9B5, Mr. Nerrick, City Attorney had stated: "..in this case,
the Council has to determine whether there is a demonstrated hardship and the
test is whether the property is unique which would justify granting the variance.
If the Council follows their past precedent, they probably wouldn't grant it."
APPEALS COM�4ISSI0�� MEETI��G OCTOBER 28 1986 PAGE 5
Mr. Betzold stated he definitely felt the City Council should look at this,
no matter what the Appeals Comnission's recomnendation.
Mr. Betzold stated that as a secondary issue, the Comnission should probably
ask for guidance from the City Council on what to do with the issue of two-
car garages. He felt the Corunission has been sporadic and inconsistent on
this issue. This could be discussed under "other business"
Mr. Betzold stated he would like to see the policy of the City bein9 to tal;e
the uniqueness of the situation and the fact that the house was built off center
on the property with a one-car garage and just doesn't meet the present code
which is for a two-car garage. That was not their present guidance, anci he
hoped the City Council would reconsider it.
Mr. Betzold stated he would vote against this variance as requested because
the sane request was denied before.
MOTZON BY 1dS. SAVAGE, SECONDED BY MR. BARNA, TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF VARIANCE RF.QUEST, VAR N86-29, BY DONALD FP.00M PUA.Si1RNT TO
CHAPSER 205.07.3, D, 2b, OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE TO REDUCE THE SIDE YARD
SETBACX FROM 5 FEET TO 3 FEET TO ALLOGI THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN ATTACXED
ACCESSORY B[17LDING ON IAT 5, BZACY, 4� BROOKVIF,W TERRACE SECOND RDDITION,THE
SRME BEING 940 PANDORA DRIVE� FRZDLEY� MZNNESOTA, 55432� WITH TNF STIPULATION
THAT THERE BE NO OPENINGS IN THE WEST WALL RND THAT IT BE A FIRE-RATED WALL.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, SAVAGE AND BARNA VOTING AYE� BETZOLD RND SHEREK VOTIA7G NAY,
CHAZRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED THE MOTIOl7 FAILED DUE TO R TIE VOTE.
2. CO�ISIDERATIOt� OF A VARIAP�CE REOUEST. VAR #86-
AND LILLIAN AP,t�OLD
5
MOTZON BY MR. BARNA, SECONDED BY MP.. SHEREK, TO OPEN THE PUBI,IC NEARING.
UPON R VOICE VO_TE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAZRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARFD TFIF, PUBLIC
NEARING OPEN AT 8:02 P,M.
Chairperson Betzold read the Administrative Staff Report:
ADPIINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
6201 Rivervier� Terrace
VAR �86-30
A. PUQLIC PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENI:
Section 2D5.07.3, �, 2c, 3, requires that an attached or detached
accessory building which opens onto the side street shall be set back
at least 25 feet.
APPEALS COMNISSIOt� MEETING, OCTOBER 28 1986 PAGE 6
Public purpose served by this requirement is to allow for off-street
parking without encroaching on the public right-of-way and also for
aesthetic consideration to reduce the building"line of sight" encroach-
ment into the neigh6or's front yard.
B. STATED HARDSfIIP:
"We need a variance to attach the new garage and keep it in line with the
present building, and also to avoid moving the present incoming power
supply,"
C. ADh1II�ISTRATIVE STAFF REVIE41:
The petitioner presently has a one-stall garage. He woul�i 7ike to enlarge
it and he would prefer not to have a second detached garage in the middle
of his back yard.
If he is 9ranted this variance, he would add onto the rear of his existin9
garage and provide a new driveway out to 62nd Way. There is a 7 ft.
boulevard on 62nd Way; therefore, there would be 27 ft. between the curb
and the garage door.
The south wall of the addition would jo4 7 feet to the north; an additional
5 ft. jog would make an attached garage addition impractical.
To construct a detached garage would result in the removal of at least
one large mature tree.
The addition would be about 75 ft. from the neighbor's house to the east.
If the Appeals Cortmission approves this request, the only stipulation the
Staff recommends is that the driveway be hard-surfaced.
Mr. Clark showed the Cormissioners an aerial photo of the property. He stated
the garage will have to job 7 ft. to the north to get the 20 ft. To qo any
further to the north to get 25 ft. would block one of the windows of the house
and the electrical wauld have to be moved. The petitioner will keep the
existing garage with the long driveway to Riverview Terrace and the new garage
with the driveway to 62nd Way.
Mr. Arnold stated he would like to put a double car garage on the back side of
his house. Right now he has just the single car garage. One of the reasons
for the new 9arage was that he and his wife have two cars, and his son will
soon be mou#ng home adding a third car. They need garage space for three
vehicles. The garage width would be 24 ft.
Mr. Barna asked Mr. Rrnald if he had considered that instead of havin9 the
garage dpor opening and driveaiay onto 62nd Way, havting the garage door openino
off the east side of the garage with a curved driveway onto 62nd. This would
APPEALS C0�IMISSION MEETING OCTOBER 28, 1986 PAGE 7
enable the petitioner to keep the side walT straight, not having to move the
wall over. The 24 ft, width would then becane the depth of the garage, and
there would be no need for a variance for an opening into a side yard. It
would just be a variance for the side of the structure from the side street
from 17 ft. to 15 ft. This was a variance that was more often granted
because it would be continuing the line of the existing structure; and,
aesthetically, it would look better to the neighborhood,
P1r. Arnold stated if he put the opening and driveway on the ?ast side of the
garage, he would have to remove some large trees.
Ms. Arnold stated they already have a very lon� driveway to remove snow from
in the winter. They would not want another long driveway.
"1r. Clark stated the i ft. jog might be incorrect. It might be 5 ft.
P1r. Betzold stated that whether or not this is approved by the Appeals
Cormission and whether or not it has to go on to City Council, he would
recomnend that before the structure is built, that the measurements be taken
again to make sure this is all going to work. Some question has heen raised
by P1r. Clark about a possible discrepancy of 2 ft.
MOTZO."7 BY 11R, BARNA, SECONDED BY MS. SAVAGE, TO CLOSF, THE PUALIC HERP,IP?G.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOSING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED THF, PUBLZC
XEARIIvG CIASED AT 8:25 P.M.
Mr. Barna stated the Commission also has to look at the length of the driveway,
and they were talking about 27 ft. from the curb. The average car was 18-20 ft.
so there was still 7-8 ft. to the curb which really wouldn't 61ock the view
that much. But, there were other ways for the garage to be built with a lesser
variance or no variance. The same size structure in the location proposed by
the petitioner could be built and moving the door froM the south side to the
east side would not require a variance. He s+.ated he was opposed to the
variance request.
Ms. Savage stated she would be opposed to an addition that would require the
removal of trees, and there was one large mature tree in the rear yard.
Aesthetically, to the neighborhood, she felt it was more important to keep the
mature trees. The house on the east was 75 ft. away from the proposed addition.
Aesthetically, it did not appear that the proposed addition would cause any
crowding on the lot.
Mr. Sherek stated the variance was necessary to accomplish the addition as
proposed. There was already enough driveway to clean in the winter with the
100+ ft. to Riverview Terrace fror� the existing garage. The access from the
east side, although it would simplify things as far as the code, did not
really accomplish a lot more. He did not see any problem with the proposed
addition layout and would be in favor of approving the variance.
APPEALS C�IMISSION t4EETING, OCTOBER 28, 1986 PA�F 8
Mr. Betzold stated this was an unusually shaped lot and the way the house was
designed on the lot was probably not the way it would have been designed today.
Ideally, the petitioners would like to have continued onto their existin�
structure to the street, but that would probably have been opposed by the
Corrtnission. So, the petitioners have come up with the second best alternative
with the jo9 and two driveways. The petitioners have made some accommodations
to try to make what they want fit on the lot. For them to try to do what
they wou]d like to do and not have a variance at all would cause too much
tearing up of the back yard, removal of trees, etc. He would be in favor of
granting the variance.
Mr. Barna stated he felt this variance request fell into the same cate9ory as
the first variance request heard at this meeting. It was not a truly defined
hardship. The aiternatives were too easily accomplished without the require-
ment of a variance.
Mr. Sherek stated he also had a problem with the removal of trees. Trees
were important aesthetically.
MOTION BY MR. SHEREK, SECOS7DED HY M5. SAVRGE, TO APPROVE VARIANCE RE9Ufi5_T,
VAR k86-30, BY GEORGE AND LZLLIAN ARNOLD, PURSUANT TO CNAPTER 205.07.3. D. 2c, 3,
OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE 21� REDUCE TNE SZDE YARD SETBACX. ON TNF, STRF.F.T SIPE
OF R CORNER LOS FROM 25 FEET TO 20 FEET TO RLLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN
ATTACHED ACCESSORY BUILDING ON LOT 5� BLOCK 2, JULI ANN RDDZTIO."%, THF SAI:'F BEZ^7G
6201 RZPERVIEW TERRRCE, FRZDLEY, FIINNESOTA� 55432�WITH THE STIPULATIO;! THAT
THE DRIVEWAY BE HARD-SURFACED.
fIPON A VOZCE VOTE, SHEREK, SAVAGE, AND BETZOLD VOTING AYE, BARNA VOTING NAY,
CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARE D THE P10TION CARRIED.
t•1r. Betzold stated this item would go to City Council because it was not a
unanimous vote.
3. OTHER 6USItdES �:
Mr. Betzold stated it was his intention to o�rite a letter to the City Manaper
and City Council askin� for some guidance and clarification on the follo�ling
three issues:
l. I�Jhat should the Appeals Comnission do regarding two-car garages?
Should the Appeais Cormission be derryinq the variances because
there are really no stated hardships? Or, should the Comnission
take into consideration that if there is a sin�le car garage and
the petitioner wants to build up to 3 ft. from the lot line, should
the Corunission consider having a si�gle car garage as a hardship?
By strict definition, they should not.
Mr. Barna stated that on Dec. 8, 1971, ti�e Cortmission got a 1ot of informat9on
from the City Manager and other peopie stating vrhat the Corimission had to look
at as far as a hardship, what things they could take and could not take into
consideration, and also mentioning the fact that in the situation they had
APPEALS COHPIISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 28, 1986 PAG[ a_
at this meeting where there were two similar variances--one was not granted
and was being sent on to City Council, and one could heve been granted ��ithout
going to City Council, this could have resulted in a court case. There was
more of a hardship in the first case than in the second case. He stated it
was previously defined that if they were going to set up standards for trees
and other aesthetics, they are supposed to maintain those standards consistently
in granting variances, The City Council has stated several times when the
Cormission has asked for guidance that the Commission was doinq fine.
Mr. Betz�ld stated he kept referring back to the statutory standard that there
had to be somethinq unique about the lot that r�ade it a hardship, etc. If
that wasn't standard, the Comnission would have to say they must deny variance
requests for expanding single car garages into double car garages, but he would
lil:e to know from the City Council if that �ras the policy they want to set forth.
Pir. Qarna stated the Council's guidance in the past was that the Commission
was not there for just strict enforcerient. If the Council wanted strict
enforcement, there would be no need for an Appeals Comnission. The Council's
guidance in the past was basically up to the Appeals Commission, what they
could live with, what they wanted, and what thPy thought the value of the variance
would be to the neighborhood, etc.
Mr. Betzold stated the code in the past, though, was not for two-car garaqes,
and he thought they should ask the City Council for any new guidance.
2. Questions on variances along the Mississiopi River. The Comr�ission
has had two variance requests along the Mississippi River in the
last year. The Commission has routinely sent these on to the City
Council. It was his feeling the City Council would like these
variance requests automatically sent to the Council, although the
Council has never actually directed the Commission to do so.
3. Parking lot stall widths.
ADJOUR�lME'JT:
MO:ION BY bfR. BARWA, SECONDED BY MR. SXEREK, TO ADJOURN THE MEETZT7G. UPO!d A VnICE
VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHRIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED THF OCT. 28, 1986, APPF,RLS
COM.MZSSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:34 P,M,
Respectfully submitted,
,
��
Lyn e . aba
Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
ENERGY COMMISSION HEETING
OCTOBER 28, 1986
CALl TO ORDER:
Chairperson Saba called the October 28, 1986, Energy Commission meeting to
order at 7:36 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Dean Saba, Bruce Bondow, Bradley Sielaff
Members Absent: Glen Douglas
Others Present: Myra Gibson, Planning Assistant
APPROVAL OF AUGUST 13, 1986, ENERGY PROJECT COMMITTEE MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Bondow, seconded by Mr. Sielaff, to approve the August 13, 1986,
Energy Project Committee minutes as written.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SASA DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. APPROVE 1986-87 WORKPLAN
Ms. Gibson distributed copies of the 1986-87 Workplan and noted that the
changes as discussed at the last meeting had been made.
Mr. Saba questioned the revie�:al of the zoning codes in Goal 3, Action 2.
Ms. Gibson stated she has reviewed the zoning codes that pertain to the
Planning Department and especially to energy concerns.
Mr. Bondow asked where we stand on the code for solar and wind standards.
Mr. Saba indicated that the coffinission had tried to be active in the
appzoach of uheFe to limit solar collectars and wind generators and
where they are located on the property.
Mr. Bondow asked if the code includes such language.
Ms. Gibson felt that the Energy Com�ssion could review that code at the
next meeting,
ENERGY CAMMISSION ME°TING, OCfOBER 28, 1986 PAGE 2
Ms. Gibson stated that the ctcy Council had not passed the rental housing
and maintenance code. The Council wants to lmow who will enforce the code
and who will pay the cost of enforcement. D.E.E.➢, has some funds available
and will have other fimds available soon for this type o£ project. If we do
secure funding, the commission can try to pass the code again. The Fire
Department does rental inspections on a complaint basis. 2�"s. Gibson stated
�that staff was trying to pull th3s duty back into the Planning Department.
If this is done, Ms. Gibson stated she was not sure exactly how the various
inspections would be handled or by whom.
Mr. Saba asked if the person doing the Section 8 receives training in
inspections.
Ms. Gibson stated that the person does receive training; however, it is very
basic and if there is a major problem then the building inspector is called in.
MOTIOtd by Pir. Sielaff, seconded by Mr. Bondow, to approve the 1986-£37
Energy Co�ission Workplan.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, Q�IAIRPERSOt7 SABA DECLARED T9E MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2. UPDATE ON D.E.E.D. REPORT
Ms. Gibson stated that the budget needs to be completed and then the
D,E.E.D. report will be completed.
Ms. Gibson indicated that the D.E.E.D. financing ended June 15th and the
time now spent is being covered by Minnegasco funding.
Ms. Gibson stated that the report, when completed, will be submitted to
D.E.E.D. as part of the agreement. The City must show that [he funds have
been spent, and then the City will be reimbursed.
3. UPDATE ON MINNEGASCO HOUSE DOCfORS
Ms. Gibson stated that three more House Doctors would be done before the
program is completed. Minnegasco extended the program to November lOth.
A total of 89 House Doctors will be completed and the overall percentage
in air leakage reduction (in leakage ratio) was 31%.
Mr. Saba stated he had received one complaint from an elderly woman who
said the workers had dropped caulk on the rug. She said the workers came
back and cleaned it up and that she was satisfied with their work.
4. DISCUSSION ON EXXON OVERQiARGE MONIES
Ms. Gibson stated that she had attended a meeting regarding the distribution
of the Exxon oil overcharge funds. She distributed a copy of the October 7,
1986, memo to Mr. Robinson outlining the information discussed at the meeting.
The rules and regulations were reviewed and these rules are basically the
same as when the City originally applied for funds.
ENERGY COPAfISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 28, 1986 PAGE 3
Mr. Saba asked if anyone had questioned the fact that so much money was
going to the University of Minnesota.
Ms. Gibson stated that only funds going to D.E.E.D. were discussed.
.M€. Saba indicated that he had heard another grant Would be �yde
available soon.
Ms. Gibson stated that she also had heard another grant would be available
and that this grant would be larger.
Ms. Gibson indicated that the current funds may not be available for
five or six months. She will check further and hopes to have more
information by the next meeting. Ms. Gibson also plans to have a proposal
prepared in draft form so the City is prepared when the funds are
available. The proposal would work more with rental property. If
additional funds are available, perhaps something could be done with
homeowners again.
5. OTHER BUSINESS
a. Ms. Gibson indicated that no meeting would be held on November 4th,
which is election day. The next meeting would be December 2, 1986.
Mr. Saba requested that the regular meeting date be changed to the
fourth Tuesday of the month. After discussion, it was agreed that starting
in January the meetings would be held on the fouTth Tuesday of =..nch month.
b. Mr. Saba indicated that in the past the commission had discussed
carbon monoxide build-up in homes. Radon appears to be more of a
problem especially in homes that have been tightened through energy
conservation measures. The level of radon changes dramatically and
is difficult to measure. Therefore, readings are taken over several
days and then an average reading is given.
p�. Gibson stated that she had heard that there are radon detectors
available, but she didn't know from w�ere.
[� . Saba asked if the com�issionwished to get involved with .
radon �ontamination? �e felt cities should be prepared to keep
abreast of what is going on, and be informed of the potential problem.
Mr. Sielaff stated that he would check with the MPCA to see how much
of a problem radon is. He stated that at the State the entire issue
of indoor air quality is a concern.
Mr. Saba also suggested working with the Environmental Quality
Commission. He felt that anything the commission could do would
benefit the City in the long run. At this time, Mr. Saba felt it
important to learn all we can and see if there is a problem.
Mt. Sielaff felt the commission should address the entire pxoblem of
indoor air quality which is a concern due to energy conservation
measures in homes.
Mr. Bondow suggested getting copies of any bulletins put out on the
subject.
ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 28, 1986 PAGE 4
Mr. Saba requested Ms. Gibson to write for copies of the information
listed in the August issue of the Energy and Housing Report on page 3.
M8. Gibson stated she would talk with the building inspector to see if
he imows anything about the subject.
' Mr. Saba also recommended working with State agencies.
Mr. Sielaff indicated that the State had equipment to take indoor
readings.
Mr. Saba stated he would like to take readings in the City to see how
many pockets of radon exist.
c. Mr. Saba indicated that a vacancy exists on the Energy Commission.
The vacancy has been advertised, but apparently no one has applied.
Ms. Gibson stated that the City Council had dissolved the Community
Development Commission and indicated that perhaps some of those members
would be interested in joining the Fnergy Commission, or other commissions.
Mr. Saba asked members to talk to people they know and see if anyone
would be interested in becoming a member.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Mr. Bondow, seconded by Mr. Sielaff, to adjourn the meeting.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SABA DECLARED THE OCTOBER 28,
1986, ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:28 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
WY�"�/�{'A ��VT/�
Lavonn Cooper
Recording Secretary
�
.,
CALL TO ORDER:
CITY OF fRIDLEY
PARKS & RECREATION COh49IS5I0N
MEETIPaG
NOYEMBER 3, 1986 -
Chairperson Kondrick called the Hovember 3, 1986, Parks & Recreation Canmission
meeting to order at 7:40 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Dave Kondrick, Mary Schreiner, Dick Young, Dan Allen,
�ohn Gargaro
Merobers Absent
Otliers Present
None
Jack Kirk, Recreation Supervisor
Ralph Volkman, Public Works Superintendent
APPROVAL OF OCTOBER 6, 1986, PARKS & RECREATION C0�1�1ISSION t7INIITES:
MOTION BY MR. ALLElI� SECONDED BY MS. SCHREINER� TO APPROi/E 4'XE OCT. 6� 1986�
PARXS 6 RECREATION COMMISSZON MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE L�OTE� A.LL VOTIN6 AYE� CXRIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIXOUSLY.
APPROVAL QF AGENDA:
THe following item was added to the agenda: Proposed Ice Rink Locations -
Item B under "New Business"
MOTZO.N BY MR. YOUNG� SECONDED BY MR. GARGARO� TO APPROVE THF. RGENDR G17TH THE
A90VE ADDITION.
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHRIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED TXE MOTIOl7
CRRRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. DIRECTOR'S REPORT:
a. Senior Citizen Program Coordinator Update
Mr. Kirk stated that at the last City Council meeting, the City Council
approved funding for this position. The deadline for applications was
Friday, Nov. 7. Staff will be reviewing the applications the folloo�in�
week, will do some interviewing, and they hope to make a decision by the
end of November.
N
�
f
S& RECREATION COMDIISSION P1EETING NOVEMBER 3 1986 PAGE 2
Mr. Kirk stated the City has asked the Senior Citizen Advisory Board to
have one member involved in the interviewing process.
b. NRPA/MRPA Flemberships
Mr. Kirk stated membership has been sent in for the Comnission in the
NRPA, and the Commission members should start receiving the Parks &
Recreation Ptagazine and any other mailinqs from the NRPA.
Mr. Kirk stated that at the last meeting, the Cortmission mem6ers had heard
presentations from two members of the MRPA. The memhership fee for this
organization was $85/year. He stated Staff has looked at the budget,
and the Commission could become a member of that organization if they
wanted to try membership for a year.
Mr. Kondrick stated he felt it was the concensus of the Cortmission members
at the Tast meeting that they should take out a one year's membersh9p,
with the understanding that if they see no benefits in being a member in
the next year that they terminate it after one year. He felt $85 was
a reasonable fee for one year.
Mr. Gargaro agreed, He felt the membership should definitely be on a
trial basis for one year.
MOTION BY MR. GRRGARO� SECONDED BY MR. YOUNG� TO JOIN TXF. MRPA FOR ONF.
YERR AT A COST OF $85� WITH AN EVALUATION BY THE CC.MIMISSION RFTER ONE YF.AR.
UPON R VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHRIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THF.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
c. Minnesota Olympic Festival
Mr. Kirk stated h� had informed the Commission a couple of ineetings ago about
the City of Fridley being contac±e�! by the City of Plinneapolis about the
possibility of bein� pa�t of.the Olyn�ic Festival in T939. �?inneapolis/
Minnesota made an application �For the 1989 U.S. Olympic Festiv�l but came
in second place. Oklzhoma City, Dklahona, was the first choice. There is
still the possibility of i�innesota bein� selected to ±he T990 or 1991
festival. The selection of these site5 will take place in the Snrinn of 1987.
2. NEW BUSINESS:
a. Creekridge Park - Proposed Name Change
Mr. Kondrick stated the Canmission members had received a letter dated
Sept. 30, 1986, from the members of the Gottwald and Johnson families
requesting that the name of Creekridge Park be changed to Gena-Rae Park.
In the letter they stated: The land which was used to create the park
was originally the Gena-Rae Addition. The land was owned by two faMilies:
Edward and Rae Gottwald and Herbert and Gena Johnson. The Go±twald
families were some of the original settlers in the Frid7ey area.
Mr. Edward Gottwald bought his land in 1924. The Johnsons moved here in 1934.
.�=
PARKS & RECREATION COFiMISSIOP� MEETING, NOVEMBER 3, 1986 page 3
Rae Gottwald and Gena Johnson became very close friends and for years
attended the Redeemer Lutheran Church together. Gena Johnson has
passed away: In haming the addition in 196i, we chose the name Gena-Rae
to honor our mothers and their friendship. We had hoped that the name
would carry over to the park. Any other name would not have any specific
meaning. The present name was apparently chosen to somewhat match the
area development. 5ince these families have lived here so long and have .
contributed to the foundation of the City, and since the nresent name
serves no useful purpose, nor does it honor any person, we would very
much appreciate your consideration of a motion to the Council to change
Creekridge Park to Gena-Rae Pati•k."
t•1r. Kondrick stated he had discussed this with Mr. Kirk, and F1r. Kirk
had gotten some information from other corrtnunities relative to naming
parks after people. Apparently, naming parks after people can cause
problems about favoritism.
Mr. Kirk stated he had received sane information from Minneapolis and
Brooklyn Park about their criteria for naming parks. Qne criteria was
naming parks by development, and Creekridge Park was tied with a develop-
ment. Also, naming a park after an individual can cause animosity in
the comnunity, potentially not all persons agree that the par4: ought to
be renamed, and can cause petty jealousies.
Mr, Kirk stated that in looking at the past minutes when the Commission
named the park Creekridge, P1r. flora had told the Corttnission that the
street adjacent tu the �ark was Creek Park Lane, and the name of the plat
was Creek Ridge Plat.
Mr. Gargaro stated the Lions Club tried many years ago to have the Moore
Lake Park renamed Moore Lake Lions Park because of donations and contri-
butions to the park by the Lions Club. The Parks & Recreation Commission
at that time also felt they did not want to get into the situation of
naming a park for an individual,group,or organization.
Ms. Schreiner stated she did not think that the name "Gena-Rae" meant
anything to anyone except to the Johnson and Gottwald families.
Ptr. Gargaro agreed. He stated he did not know how many people even knew
the background or meaning of the name "Gena-Rae" However, he stated
there did seem to be other parks in the City that were named after
individuals: Craig Park,Flanery Park, Madsen Park, and Ed Wilmes Park.
Mr. Kondrick suggested that the City contact the residents of the develop-
ment and in the immediate neighborhood to see if they had any strong
feelings one way or the other.
Mr. Allen stated he was opposed to staff time being spent trying to find
out how the people feel about naming a park. He felt the Commission
should make a decision at this meeting.
PARKS & RECREATION COMMTSSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 3, 1986 PAGF 4
Mr. Young stated that the Gottwald and Johnson families were living here
between 1924 and 7934. Fridley never became incorporated until 194q,
� so these families really were pioneers of the Fridley area. They really
were the forefathers of the City of Fridley. He stated he did not have
a park in his neighborhood; but if he did, he woutd not care who it was
named after.
Mr. Kondrick stated he really felt the families did make a good point,
and he did feel it was important to poll the people in the neighborhood.
There were people who had invested a lot of money in homes in this area,
and they might not want the name of the park changed� but the Canmission
should have some more input before making a decision.
Mr. Young suggested that a copy of the Sept. 30th letter be attached
to the letter to the residents, so the residents would know the reason
behind the request, the history, etc.
Ms. Schreiner suggested that the letter also include some type of "tear-
off" sheet that people can fill out and mail back to the City stating
their preference or no preference.
Mr. Kirk stated these were both excellent suggestions, and Staff would
inform both the residents of the development and the residents who border
the park about this proposal.
b. Proposed Ice Rink Locations
Mr. Volkman handed out a listing of the 1986-1987 Skating areas--T7 generaT
and 8 hockey rinks. He stated this year they are trying only one neneral
and one hockey rink at Locke Park.
MOTION BY MR. GARGARO� SECONDED BY MS. SCHREINER, TO APPROVE TXF. I986-1987
GENERRL AND HOCKEY RINKS AS PROPOSED.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE� CXRIRPERSON XONDRICK DECLARED TNE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3. OLD BUSIP�ESS:
a. Meadowlands Park
Mr. Kirk stated there would be a public meeting on Monday, Nov. 10, at
7:30 p.m. in Cortmunity Rm. I to discuss proposed improvements to Meadow-
lands Park.
Mr. Kondrick urged the Commission members to attend this meeting if at
all possible.
PARKS P� RECREATION COMMISSION MEETI��6, NOVEMBER 3, 1986 PAGE 5
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION'BY XR-. ALLEN; SECONDED BY MS.�SCXREINER, TO ADJOUAN THE MEETING. UPON A
VOICE Vt7TE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPF.RSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE NOV. 3� 1986�
PARKS @ RECRERTION COMMZSSION MEETZNG ADJOURNED RT 8:30 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
n J aba �
Recording Secretary