PL 11/05/1986 - 30652�"7
CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLAryNING COh'�1ISSIOP� PIEETIP�G, NOVEh1BER 5, 1986
CALL TQ ORDER:
Chairperson Billings called the November 5, 1986, Planning Commission meeting
to order at 7:3a p.m.
ROI.L CALL:
Mer�bers Present: Steve �illings, Dave Kondrick, Dean Saba, Sue Sherek,
Donald Betzold, Richard Svanda
Mer,�bers Absent: None
Otf�ers Present: Jim Robinson, Planning Coordinator
Jock Robertson, Community Development Director
APPROVAL OF OCTOBER 22, 1986, PLAfJNING COPM�ISSIOPd P1II�1l1TES:
MOTION BY r?R. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MR. 5ABA, TO APPROVE THE OCT. 22, Z986,
PLAIVNING COMMISSION MINUTE5 AS WRITTEIV.
� UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CNAIRPERSON BILLINGS DECLARED THE N10TIO1N
CARRIED i11VANIMOUSLY.
1. COPJSIQERATION OF A VACATION REQUF.ST TQ VACATE A PORTION OF THE CITY-OUlNFD
HIGFIWAY 65 Tl1RIVBACK PROPERTY: '-� ' '
Mr. Robinson stated this vacation request was originally intended to
facili�ate the Woodbridge development, but some technical difficulties
have arisen. He would recommend that this item be tabled.
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� 5ECONDED BY MS. SHEREK, TO TABLE Z'HIS ITEM.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPER50N BILLIIVGS DEC�ARED THE
MOTIOIV CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2. REVIEW OF THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE UNIVERSITY AVENUE CORRIDOR:
Mr. Robinson stated this effort actually started in 1983 when the HRA decided
to have a focal point at the intersection of University and Mississippi to
highlight the development going on in the Center City area. Flyers were se�t
out to architectural firms asking for design plans, but there was a limited
response. On the night of the design presentation at an HRA meeting, a few
businessmen from along the University Ave. corridor requested that the City
take a look at the whole corridor in order to improve the visual amenities,
and they stated that some businesses were suffering because the corridor was
unsightly.
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Mr. Robinson stated that after 14 years, the City hired Barton-Aschmann to
do a study for the entire corridor from 53rd Ave. to 85th Ave. A Technical
Advisory Committee was organized with members from business, residents, and
city staff. The master�plan was presented by Mr. Barry Warner, principal
designer for Barton-Aschmann, at the Sept. 23, 1986, TAC meeting. The master
plan was comprised of a number of different components including landscaping,
surface treatments, median treatments, fencing, intersection treatments on
specific intersections, and lighting.
Mr.e Robinson explained to the Commission members each of these components in
more detai7. He stated the treatments were concentrated at the intersections
of 57th Ave, and 85th Ave, which were considered the City's gateways and at
Mississippi and Osborne which were major intersections. Other intersections
would get smaller treatments.
Mr. Robinson stated the proposed cost of improvements would be about $2 million.
This would not include lighting, and drainage which would be necessary at
69th Ave.
P1r. Saba asked if any consideration had been given to salt damage to land-
scaping, trees, etc.
^ Mr. Robinson stated the trees would be set back 6-7 feet from the curb, and
he thought trees had been chosen that would be tolerant to salt.
Ms. Sherek stated she would also be concerned about salt damage to the brick-
work and if any consideration had been given to the durability of wroughi iron
from salt spray.
Mr. Robinson stated brickwork had been discussed, and he thought it was said
that concrete brick would be more durable, but this was something that should
-be determined.
Mr. Saba asked if plastic had been considered in place of wrought iron.
Ms. Sherek stated she was rea7ly concerned about maintenance--the lonc� term
maintenance and the high cost of maintenance for the gateways. Was the City
willing to make that kind of long term commitment?
Mr. Kondrick stated he liked the "Jersey barrier" but he did not think it was
very practical for Minnesota. He was in favor of something that would span
the highway coming into Fridley.
Mr. Billings.stated his reaction to the gate brickwork entrance was: Does it
look like the entrance to a cemetery?
P9r. Kondrick stated he felt the lighting was very important to project a certain
^ image; however, he felt the lighting should be more "folksy" and less commercial.
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Ms. Sherek stated they might want to consider different effects from lighting
in different places, but keep the same intensity and same coloration.
Ms. Sherek stated maybe the Community Park should also be tied into the
community with a brick treatment.
Ms. Sherek stated that as new deve7opment occurs along University Ave., maybe
the ]andscaping, and possibly lighting, could be at the cost of the developer,
Mr. Robertson stated the next crucial stage was the sequence of improvements.
Mr. Svanda stated he felt all the improvements should be done at one time, so
it would not mess up traffic on a long term basis.
Mr. Robinson stated this was an information item, and they had just wanted to
get some reactions and input from the Corrmiission members.
3. RECEIVE OCTOBER 2, 1986, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY M5. SHE.REK, 5ECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK, TO RECEIVE THE OCT. 2, Z986,
HUMAN RE50URCE� COMMI55ION MINUTE5.
n UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPER50N BILLINGS DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNA111IMOUSLY.
4. RECEIVE OCTOBER 28, 1986, APPEALS COMRIISSION �1INliTES:
Since the._Appeals Corrunission minutes were not available at the meeting,
Mr. Betzold explained to the Commissioners the two variance requests at
that meeting. He stated both requests were similar in that the petitioners
wanted to expand from single car garages to double car garages but needed to
vary the�code in order to do what they wanted. The first request was denied
by a tie vote, and the second request was approved on a 3-1 vote, so both
requests will be going to City Council.
Mr.Betzold stated it was his intention to write a letter to the �ity Manager
and City Council asking for some guidance and clarification on three issues:
(1) the issue of two-car garages--expanding single car garages to doub7e
car garages; (2) the issue of variance requests for property along the
Mississippi River; and (3) the issue of parking lot widths.
MOTION BY MR. BETZOLD, 5ECONDED BY MR. SVANDA, Z'O RECEIVE THE REPORT OF THF,
OCT. 28, I986, APpEAL.S COMMIS5ION MEETING AND TNAT THO5E MINUTE5 BE FORWARDED
ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPER50N BILLING5 DECLARED THF. MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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5. OTHER BUSINESS:
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Proposed 1987 Planning Commission P1eeting Schedale
Mr. Robinson stated the Commission members had received a copy of the
proposed meeting date schedule for 1987. He noted there was only one
meeting in November, and it was scheduled on Nov. 25, Thanksgiving Eve.
After some discussion, the Commission members agreed to change the
Nov. 25th meeting date to Nov. 18th, and to add a meeting date of
Dec. 2.
MOZ'ION BY MR. KONDRICK, SE�ONDED BY MR. BETZOLD, TO AppROVE THE 1987
PROPOSED PLANNING COMMIS5ION 5CHEDULE WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES:
CHANGE NOV. 25, 1987, to NOV. 18, 1987
A�T3D DEC. 2, Z987, ALONG WITH THE ALREADY SCHEDULED DEC. 16TH MEETING DATE
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL V02'ING AYE, CHAIRPER50N BILLING5 DECLARED 2'HE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOU5LY.
City Council Update on Special Use Permit for Church on the P1ove
� Mlr. Robertson stated the City Council received all the research they had
asked for two weeks ago, and the only question left was whether or not
Church on the Move was going to get the one year lease on the easement
from Totino Grace for parking. The item was tabled at the last City
Council meeting upon receipt of that information and review by the City
Attorney. Staff was also directed to do a feasibility study ]ooking at
church zoning in general--the appropriateness of churches in R-1 zones
versus other zones.
Mr. Billings stated Councilman Goodspeed made the motion that Staff look
at that, that it come to the Planning Commission, and then back to City
Council. �lhe� it came_be.f.ore the Planninq Commission, he udould like to
see some information, nat only in terms of whether or not churches are
still an appropriate use in R-1, but on all uses currently being allowed
in R-1, R-2, and R-3 with a special use permit. It would be better to
do this all at once instead of on a piecemeal basis.
Mr. Robertson stated that was an excellent idea.
ADJOURPJPIENT:
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MS. 5HEREK, TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. UPON A
VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPER50N BILLINGS DECLARED THE NOV. 5, 1986,
PLANNING COMMI55ION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:43 P.M. '
^ Respectfully subm'tted,
Ly Saba
Recording Secretary