PL 03/11/1987 - 6910� _ .
A,ANNING COMMLSSION PEETING
City of FYidley
AGENDA
WF,LNFSTIT�Y, [�41RQi 11 1987 7:30 P. PL
L,ocation: Coimcil Qianber (upper lcvel)
CALL � ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
APPI�7VE PLANNING Q�NA7ISSION MINUTFS: FEBRL4�RY 25. 1987
PUBLIC HFARING• COIISIDEFi4TI0N OF A REZONING ZQA #87-01, BY
CHRISTENSEN ACPlD BODY: . . . . . . . . . . • . . • . . . .
To rezone from R-3, General Multiple Dwelling, to C-2,
General Business, on Lots 23 and 24 together with 1/2
vaca ted alley, Slock 6, Fridley I�rk, acoording to the glat
thereof on file and of remrd in the office of the County
Remrder in and for Anoka Co�ty, Minnesota, the same being
6501 East River Road N. E
PUBLIC HEARING• ODISSIDEFATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP
#87- 03. BY CHRISTENSEN A[YIL� BODY: . . . . . . • . . • . .
Per Section 205.14.1, C, 4 of the Fridley City Code, to
allaa a reFair garaqe on Lots 23 and 24 together with 1/2
vacated alley, Block 6, FricIle� Park; per Section 205.09.1,
C, 10 of �e FricIle� City Code, to allow exterior storage
of materials and equignent on Lots 25 through 28 together
with 1/2 vacated alley, Block 6, FYic11Ey Fark; per Section
205.09.1, C, 4 of the Fridley City Code, to allow an
autanobile Farking lot on Lots 25 throuc� 28 together with
1/2 vacated alley, Block 6, FridlEy Park, except that Fart
of said Lot 28, Block 6, Fridle� Park described as fallaas:
Beginning at the Northeast corner of said Lot 29, thence
Southwesterly along the Northwesterly line of said Lot 29
to a�int on said Northwesterly line distant 178.5 feet
Southwesterly oY the Northeast oorner of Lot 12, Block 6,
FricIle� Park, as measured along the Northwesterly line of
said Lot 12 and the same as extended Southwesterly to the
Northeast mrner of said Lot 29, and the Northwesterly line
of said Lot 29; thence Southeasterly parallel to the
Northeasterly lines of Lots 12 and 13, Block 6, Fridley
Park for a distance of 53 feet; th ence Northeasterly
ixirallel to the Northwesterly line of said Lot 29 to the
Nor�easterly lire 6f �aid Lot 28, Block 6, Fridley Park;
t2�ence Northwesterly along the Northeasterly lines of said
Lots 28 and 29 to the point of beqinning, acoording to the
map or plat thereof on file and of temrd in the office of
tYie Register of Deeds in and for Anoka County, Minnesota,
the same being 6501 and 6509 East River Road N. E
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CONSIDERATIpN OF APPROJAL OF �iE HUt�N RFSCUR�S O�P'AfISSION
WORKPI.AN L�R 1986-1987 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 — 3G
RE(EIVING �IE b1INUTfS OF �]E A'�RKS & REQ2FATION �MMISSION
MEETING OF EEBIVARY 2, 1987 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . GREII4
R�CEIVING �IE MINUTES OF THE HUMAN RFSOUR(�S ODMMISSIQN
MEETIId(' OF FS'BFdJARY 5 r 1987 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SAIMON
RECEIVING 'IHE MINOZ'ES OF ZSiE HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT
AU7I]ORITY MEETIIVG OF FEBRUARY 12. 1987 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . WHITE
REtEIVING �3E MINUTES OF g1E FNEF�Y Q�MMISSION MEETING OF
F'EBIdJARY 24. 1987 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LII�AC
RECEIVING �IE MINII2F'S OF �iE APFEALS Q�tR9LSSI0N MEETING OF
MARQ1 3. 1987 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . YFSSAW (At Mtg.)
0�3II2 BUSINFSS:
AII7CL1RiJN�1T
CALL TO OP,DER:
CITY OF FRIDLEV
PLAN"lING COMMISSION HEETING, FEQRUIIRY 25, 1987
Chairperson Billings called the February 25, 1987, Planning Corimission meeting
to order at 7:32 p.m.
ROI.L CALL:
Menbers Present: Steve [3illings, �ave Kondrick, Sue 5herek, Donald Eietzold,
Dale ThoMpson, Bruce Bondow
Men'iers Absent: None
Otl�ers Present: Jim Robinson, Planning Coordinator
Jock Robertson, Community Development Director
Duane Waldoch, 1655 - 75th Ave. IJ.E.
Debra K. Page, 4200 IDS Center, ttpls.
Olga Palmer, 1329 Gardena Ave.
Gay Piinear, 1291 Gardena Ave.
Helfride Manning, 1315 Hillcrest Dr.
APPROVAL OF FEBRUARY 11 19F37, PLAflfJI�JG COP1f4ISSI0PJ t1I"lUTES:
Md_'ZON BY 1;R. KONDRICK� SF,CONDED BY MS. SNEREK, TO APPROVT THE FF.B. 11� 1987,
PLA.NNZNG COMMISSZON MINUTES AS GIRZTTEN.
UPUN A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE� CHAIRPERSON BILLINGS DECLARED THE MOTZON
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. TAI3LFD 2/11/87: PUBLIC HEARING: CO�JSIDERATIQN OF A SPECIAL USE PERh1IT,
SP 87-01 BY EDW RD AN ROSE IdALDOCH:
Per Section 2D5.13. , C, 9, of the Fridley City Code to altoai exterior
storage of materials and equipment on the east 125 feet of Lot 18, Rlock 2,
Central View 1lanor, the same being 7340 Central Avenue IJ.E.
MO_TION BY MR. KOT7DRICKi SECONDED BY MR, BETZOLD� TO REPlOVE THF, I?Fl." FRO!�f
THF. TAALE.
UPON R VOICE VOTE, ALL V02ING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BILLINGS DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNRNZMOUSLY.
MOTZON BY f4R. KOP7DRICK� SECONDED BY MS. SXEREK� TO REOPEN TXE PUBLIC
HEARZNG.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE, RLL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BZLLINGS DECLARF.D TXE
PUBLIC HEARING REDPENED AT 7:34 P.Af.
PLANNIt1G CO�RiISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 25, 1987 PAGE 2
Mr. Robinson stated that, as stated at the last meetin�, the property was
locateA west of Old Central between 73rd Ave. and 73�; Ave. The zoning was
C-1. There was presently three uses for the property: sinqle fanily home,
a repair garage, and storage for a lawn repair R equipment business.
Mr. Robinson stated Staff has proposed a number of impravements for the
property. He reviewed the stipulations recommended 6y Staff:
l. Provide an 8 ft. high solid wood screening fence as per City plan dated
Feb. 11, 1987, by I�ay 15, 1987.
2. All naterials to be stored inside the fenced storage area belovr the top
of the fence by May 15, 1987.
3. Install landscaping as per City plan dated Feb. 11, 1987, to include
edging, mulch, weed barrier, and lawn sprinkling by June 15, 1987.
4. Sod boulevard areas along Central Avenue, 73rd Avenue, and 73?� Avenue,
as per City plan dated Feh. 11, 1987, by June 15, 1987.
5. Repaint building facade and trim by June 15, 1987.
6. Provide 6 inch concrete curbinn as per City plan dated Feb. 11, 1987,
by June 15, 1987.
7. Remove concrete island from parking lot by June 15, 1937.
8. Repave and stripe parking lot and driveways by September 15, 1937.
9. Provide a performance bond or a letter of credit in the amount of �5,000
to cover all of the above stipulations prior to Council approval.
10. Parking or storage of street inoperable and/or unlicensed vehicles is
prohibited.
11. Parl:ing of vehicles within street riglit-of-ways is prohibited - violators
will be tagged and/or towed within ten days. Date of possible action
is Feb. 23, 1987.
12. No sales or leasing of vehicles is or will be permitted on this site.
13. Special Use Permit SP �37-01 for outside storage for lawn care operation
only and is intended for present owners only and is not transferrable to
future owners.
14. Special Use Permit to be reviewed in six months.
Ms. Sherek asked if Staff had met with the petitioner since the last Planning
Conmission meeting.
PLANNIN6 COM�IISSION MEETIPlG, FEE3RUARY 25, 1987 PAGE 3
�1r. Robinson stated the petitioner and his legal counsel did discuss the
proposal with City Staff the previous Friday. He believed the petitioner
and his legal counsel had some suggestions to the stipulations and the plan
which they would like to present to the Commission.
Ms. Debra Page stated she was an attorney representing �1r. Idaldoch regarding
this special use permit. She stated she had met with k1r. Robinson ancl
several members of City Staff the previous Friday to discuss a few of the
problems they are encountering �rith the site plan, and they did talk ahout a
fet� amendments to the site plan at that time. Since that meeting, the
petitioner has had some other concerns.
Ms. Page stated it was her understanding that at the last meetin�, there was
some discussion that the six parking stalls proposed by Staff be extended
to include two additional stalls. In the meeting with P1r. Robinson on Friday,
Mr. Robinson had said they could probably extend that to three additional
stalls for a total of nine parking stalls.
Ms. Page stated another item discussed with Staff was to run a fence alonc�side
the commercial building on the northwest side north to `he property line so
it would match up with the existing fence for Sam's Repair Shop in order to
make the storage area more usable for her client.
Ms. Page stated Mr. Robinson had suggested the elimination of some curbing
at the last Planning Commission meeting also.
Ms. Page stated the last item discussed with Staff was allowing the storage
area for the lao-m maintenance vehicles to be used for more than just the lawn
maintenance vehicles. She stated she understood the City Council would have
the final decision on this, but she would request that the Planning Commission
makes its recommendation to allow that area to be used for the use of vehicles
which night be under repair from San's Repair 5hop. She stated she did not
want to get involved with any licensing issues with the neighboring property,
but if parking was going to be diminished in the front, there would need to
be some additional space in the rear to park some of the vehicles that would
be part of the commercial use in the repair shop.
Ms. Page stated it was her understanding after their meeting on Friday that
Staff did not have a problem With these particular itens.
Ms. Page stated that since the meetinq, her client. has had a chance to do a
little more worl: on the property, and one of the problems they have was that
when the parking was brought to the oroperty line and taken off the Coim ty
right-of-way, there was not sufficient space between either the garage and
the edge of the parking or the entrance way to the fenced area to allow
turn-around space for the la�an r�aintenance vehicles. Because that space
was not sufficient enough for her client's use, she had taken the liberty of
contacting the Anoka County Attorney's Office ahout the vossibility of
acquiring a license to expand the parking area onto the County right-of-way.
She stated the County Attorney's Office was not able to find out
before this Planning Commission meeting whether or not a license would be
available.
PLANNIHG COP1NISSIOtJ t1EETING, fEBRUARY 25. 1
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Ms. Pa�e stated that if they were to get a license from the County to park
on County right-of-way, they would request that the parking be expanded an
additional 12-13 feet to allow sufficient use of the driveway for the parking
of her client's lawn r�aintenance equipment and also any commercial use of
getting into the garage.
Ms. Page stated Dan Clint of the County Attorney's Office was the attorney
who was following up on this r�atter. She hoped to have a more definite ansa�er
by Thursday or Friday. As she understood it, the issue that was holding up
the decision on the license �aas the County wanted to mal:e sure there w?re no
limitations or other restrictions they might want to put on that license.
Ms. Page stated that if the County turns down their request for a license for
parking on County right-of-o-iay, the special use permit then does not do her
client any good because they cannot use the property under the lir.iitations
beinq put on it. She stated her client does want to be ahle to conform and
make improvements, but the problen was if they are applyin� for a special use
permit that effectively prohibits the use (storage of materials and equipnent
for• the latvn repair business), then it would be her recommendation to
�4r. Waldoch that he withdraw the special use permit application.
Ms. Page stated her client's second request was that they be allowed to pave
the area west of the easterly driveviay (north of Sam's Repair Shop) to allow
movement through there and for access to the back area.
P4r. Waldoch stated tlie reason for that was when there are cars that have to
be repaired and have to be stored in the back and have to be pushed to the
back area, they have to go out on the main street to get access to the back.
Also, �aith the little hill and taith snow and ice, it would be pretty hard to
do in the wintertime. lie was just looking for some flat ground to that back
area which would be more convenient and wnuld cause less problems for getting
cars from the parking area in front to the back area.
Ms. Sherek stated she lived in this neighborhood, and there was a lot of
traffic congestion on 73'z Ave. during the day. Pushing disabled cars around
would certainly nakes things a�orse.
Ms. Page stated the existing fence was 6 ft. high, and Staff was requesting
an 8 ft. fence. lJas there a reason for the 2 ft, increase?
Mr. Robinson stated some of the trucks are far in exc.ess of 6 ft., especially
the piggyback trucks with cars on the top.
Ms. Page stated regarding stipulation #8, was it necessary to repave the
whole parking lot and driveways, or could they just repair and sealcoat
those areas that needed it? This Wd5 strictly a financial concern.
Mr. Robinson stated it would depend on the condition of the driveways and
parking lot. Whatever was reasonable and functional, and that could be
determined by the city engineers.
PLANNItJG COMMISSION ��EETING, FEBRUARY 25, 1987 PAGE 5
Mr. Waldoch stated that the distance betv�een the commercial garage and the
parking area as proposed by Staff was 22 ft. He stated that with a 22 ft.
full-sized car parked in tfie parking area, access into and out of the commer-
cial garage was very difficult.
Mr. Robinson suggested that ��r. Waldoch swap storage areas with Sam's Repair
Shop, so that Mr, Waldoch could use the 732 Ave. entrance to get his lawn
maintenance vehicles to the small garage in the bacl:.
Mr. Waldoch stated if that was done, he would not have a lawn maintenance
business, because the repair of lawn equipment, etc., was done in the small
garage and access to the small gara9e was to the west.
Mr. Waldoch presented a landscaping design he had put together that he
thougtit taas feasible for the property.
�4r. Robinson stated that if the County allowed the license for parkinq on
the ri9ht-of-way, it would be setting a precedent for other businesses that
would like to use the boulevard for parking. Ric�ht now it was being done
and it has heen overlooked in tlie past, but he did not think the City wanted
to con�lone such an action. He sympathized with some of the prohler�s the
petitioner was having, but he felt the main problem sternned from the fact
that the petitioner was trying to do too much with the property. He was not
sure if that was the City's hardship and whether the City should accommodate
hir:i beyond what were reasonable and allowable solutions.
Ms. Sherek stated she still felt they were looking at this from the wrong
anqle. She stated Sam lias got junk all over that piece of property. The
City Council has said that San is not allowed to have junk there. Right now
there are two flatbed trucl:s with junk car parts on then, one has been there
since last Saturday and one for at least two weeks, and junk car parts out on
property that his license says he cannot use for his junk business. There
was also a tot+ trucl: parked there, aahich could be argued that it could be for
either business. Svt, she felt that instead of taking a lot of tir�e discussinv
this with t1r. Waldoch and Ms. Paqe, this whole thing should be before the
City Council iahere Sam is violating his license with the City.
Mr. Kondrick stated that was true, but he also agreed with Mr. Robinson
that tiiere r�as too much qoing on on this piece of property.
Mr. Waldoch stated he did not feelthey were overusing the property.
P1r. Billings stated he would like to express his displeasure over the fact
that the petitioner and his legal counsel were coming before the Plannina
Cor��nission with all these new ideas. At the last meeting, he had indicated
to �ir. Waldoch that he should get together with his attorney right away and
then meet with City Staff as soon as possible to negotiate and come back to
the Planning Comr�ission with a pretty much agreed-upon plan. As he under-
stood it, the petitioner and his attorney did not get together with Staff
until last Friday, and then that did not allow enough time to get the things
PLANfJING C0�IHISSION M[ETING, FEBRUARY 25 1987 PAGE 6
done that needed to be done before the Planning Commission r�eeting. Now,
the petitioner was at the meeting taith a proposal that was contingent upon
sone outside sources. He did not want to see this special use permit request
dragged on any further, but he did not know if the Planning Conmission �iould
be able to resolve anything a t this meeting.
Ms. Page apologized for any delay they have caused the Commission. Since the
meeting on Friday with City Staff, they have been trying to work within what
Staff fiad given ther�, and she had then initiated contacts with the County
Attorney's Office. She assured the Commission members she felt they have now
flushed out all the issues, and it tuas simply a matter of nuttin� them
together. She did not think they could have moved any faster than they did.
Any recommendation from the Cor�mission would have to be contingent upon wait-
ing to hear from the County on whether or not they can get the license.
��r. Billings suggested the small qarage be moved so that access from the
garage was to the north instead of to the east. Ife stated the two biggest
problens seemed to be: (1) pulling out of the commercial gara9e with a full-
sized vehicle and trying to make the turn into the drivewau; and (2) bac4;ing
vehicles into the storage area to the small garage. He stated right now they
are looking at the site as it exists and trying to see how they can make it
all work within the confines of the site as it now exists, as opposed to
trying to enlarge the site to make it work.
t4r. Billings stated he did not want it misconstrued that if the City does
issue a special use permit for outdoor storage for lawn equipment that they
are endorsing the outdoor storage of vehicles for the junk yard.
Ms. Page stated when they r�et with Staff on Friday, they were in agreement
with whatever definition was needed in the special use pernit to distinguish
between the junk cars and the repair garage.
Mr. Robinson suggested they leave the first three diagonal
spaces and after that point go to a�arallel parkinq situation where they
could fit in four more stalls for a total of seven stalls. That vrould give
the petitioner about 3D ft. of wid±h for truc� and trailers to come bacl: into
the storage area. The gate to that storage area cnuld be made as wide as
the petitioner needed. The only problem with this suggestion, of course,
was the petitioner would not get nine stalls, but he would get one more
tlian was originally suggested by Staff which was six stalls.
Mr. ldaldoch stated that plan sounded feasible.
Mr. Billings stated he did have sone philosophical problems with receiving
a license from the County for parking on the right-of-way. It was a policy
the City has not had in the past, and he thought it was a policy that would
require quite a bit of discussion and thought, especially on his part, before
a decision could be nade. It could be setting a very dangerous precedent for
otlier business owners in similar situations.
PLANNING C0�4HISSI(1N �1EETIIJG FEI3RUARY 25, 1987 PAGE 7
�4s. Sherek stated the petitioner should keep in mind that if the right-of-
way �nded at the curb line of Old Central, the required setback would be
20 ft., so to request 12-13 ft. in a license from the County, the petitioner
was requesting not only to use the right-of-way which was a variance in and
of itself, but was requesting to park closer to the curbline than the
allowed setback requireMents. She suggested the petitioner give sone
serious thought to f1r. Billings' sug9estion that he check into the possibility
of using the area behind the commercial garage as a way to back into the
smaller garage, erhether it meant turning the garage, putting up a poleshed
instead of the garage, or whatever. She would also suggest that a fence be
run from the south�aest end of the commercial garage, south to the existing
fence line. The lawn service business could use the stora�e area west of the
commercial business, and Sam could use the storage area south of the commer-
cial building.
Mr. Waldoch stated the storage area behind the comr�ercial buildina was
approximately 3,750 sq. ft. while the area south of the commercial buildinn
was only about 1,750 sq. ft. Sam would have less storage area, and that
could affect things in terms of rent.
Mr. Billings stated that in looking at one of the alternatives the petitioner
had requested that a`fence be installed from the northwest corner of the
cor�mercial building north to the property line and then paving that entire
area, he thought that was something that might be feasible. But, if the
south side of the commercial building was utilized for storage by Sam instead
of the back area (as suggested by Ms. Sherek), then the cars could be moved
into there from the parking lot and front drivevlay and the paved area to thA
north ��ould not be needed, leaving more green space.
Mr. Rohinson stated the Commission an�i Staff have explored several feasible
solutions for the site, and he thought it o-ras time for the Commission to
mal:e some recommendations.
MOTIDN BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY 14R. BETZOLD, TO CLOSF. THE PUBLIC HFARING.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOSING AYE, CHAIRPF,RSON BILLINGS DECLARED mNE PPALIC
HEARING CJASED AT 8:36 P.M.
Mr. Betzold stated that regarding the issue about the County right-of-wa,y
and whether or not they should approve the use of County right-of-way for
parking if the County would approve a license, he did not think he could go
along with that. They have done a pretty good job in the City in claaninr�
up some of these areas in the last few years, and approving the use of
County right-of-way for parkinq would be a step backward. As aas indicated
by Hr. Robinson, there was sure to 6e a lot of other businesses that were
going to come in requesting the very same thing. He felt legally the City
would be on pretty solid ground if they said "no" to allowina use of the
right-of-way. He would recanmend a stipulation that the City Council deny
the use of the riqht-of-way for parking.
PLANPJIIJG C0�119ISSION MEETING, FE6RUARY 25, 1987 PAGE 8
i4r. Thompson agreed. He stated he did not think the City should allow the
petitioner to park on County right-of-way. The Staff has already conpromised
in allowing the petitioner to park right up to the property line.
Hs. Sherek agreed also. She looked at the Anerican Legion Club rigfit across
the street as a good example of another business that needed additional
parking and would love to be able to push its parking closer to the street.
The aim of the City has been to buffer parking lots from the street with
landsca�ing, and this would definitely be a step back��ards.
P1r. Kondrick agreed also. He felt a number of things could be done with the
property, both for the tenant and for the petitioner. But, to go any further
than what was recommended would be a step backwards and would be sPtting a
precedent.
I+Ir. 6illings asked about the additional stalls on the east side.
Mr. Kondrick stated he thought Mr. Robinson's suggestion about the three
�iiagonal and four parallel stalls was a reasonable alternative. However, he
would offer another suggestion and that was to change it around and put
four parallel stalls on the north and then three diagonal. That would leave
more room for maneuvering cars in and out of the commercial garage into the
parking lot.
P1r. Dillings stated he would recommend they add up to 30 additional feet
for parking along the right-of-way line wi±h the striping to be approved by
Staff.
MOTION BY MR. KONDRZCX, SECONDED BY MS. SXEREY„ TO RF,COMMEND PO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP k87-02, BY F,DWARD RND ROSE WALDOCH� PER
SECSIOP7 205,I3,Z� C� 9� OF 2HE FRIDLEY CITY CODE TO RLLOF7 EXSERIOR STORAGE
OF' MATERIRLS AND EQUIPMENT ON THE EAST 125 FEET OF LOT 18, BIACK 2, CEe9TRAL
VIEW MANOR� THE SAME BEZNG 7340 CF•NTRAL AVENUE N.F.. SUBJECT TO THE AMF,NDED
SSTE PLAN AS OUTLINED BY STAFF AND SUBJECT TO THF. FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS:
I. PROVIDE Af7 8 FT. HIGN SOLID WOOD SCREENING FENCE AS pEP. CITY-PLA72
DR2ED FEB. 2Z, Z987,AND AMENDED BY PLANNING COMMISSION, BY MAY I5, 2987.
2. ALL MATERIALS TO BE STORED IldSZDE THE FENCED STORAGE ARE BELOF,'
THE TOP OF THE FENCE BY MRY 15, 2987.
3. I�YSTA.LL LA.NDSCAPING AS PER CITY PLAt4 DATED FEB. 11, 1987, '!'0 I':CLUDc
EDGING� MULCH, WEED�BARRZER, AND LAWN SPRINKLZNG BY JUNF. 17� 5987.
4. SOD BOULEVARD AREAS AIAPIG CENTRAL AVENUE, 73RD AVENUE AP7D 73� AVEP7UE
AS PER CZ_TY PLAN DATED FEB. I1� 1987� BY JUNE 15� 1987.
5. REPRINT BUILDII7G FACADE AND TRIM BY JUNE S5, Z987.
6. PROVIDE 6 INCH CONCRE;E CURffiNG AS PEP. CZTY PLAN DRTED FEB. Z1, ?987,
AND AMENDED BY PLANNING COMMISSION, BY JUNE 25� 1987.
7. REMOVE CONCRETE ZSLAND FROM PARKZNG LOT BY .7UNE 15, 2987,
8. REFURSZSH PARKING LOT AND DRIVEWAYS TO CITY ENGINEERS' SPECIFICATIONS
AND STRIPE PARKING LOT WITHIN THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OUT OF THE C0�'".'"'�
RIGHT—OF—WAY BY SEPS, 25, I987.
PLANt�ING COP41ISSIOtJ MEETIPaG, FEFiRUARY 25, 1987 PAGE 9
9. PROVIDE A PERFORMANCE BOND OR A LETTER O.° CREDIT IN TXE AMOUNT OF
55,000 TO COVER ALL OF THE ABOVE STIPULATZONS PRIOR 20 COi71dC7:
RPPROVAL.
10. PRRKING OR STORAGE OF STREET INOPERABLE AND/OR UNLICEt7SED VEHICLES
IS PROHIBITED.
I2. PARKZNG OF VEXICLES WISHIN STREET RIGHT-OF-WAYS ZS PROXZBITED -
VIDLATORS 47ILL BE TAGGED AND/OR TOWED.
22. NO SALES OR LEASING OF VEHICLES IS OR WZLL BE PERMITTED ON THZS SITE.
13. SPECIAL USE PERNIT, SP '�87-01, FOR OI7TSII7F. STORAGE FOR LAGIT� CAn"
OPERATION ONLY AND IS INTENDED FOR PFESENS OWNERS ONLY AND IS NOT
TRANSFERRABLE TO FUTUP,F O47NER.S.
14, SPECZAL USE PERMZT TO BE REVIF,WED IN SIX 1?ONTNS.
UPON R VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE, CHAIRPERSON BILLINGS DECLARED TIfF. NOTIOL'
CARRZED UNANZMOUSLY.
P1r. Billings stated this iter� aiould go to City Council on Plarch 9.
2. PUBLIC NEARING: CONSIDERATIOPJ Of AN ORDIWANCE RECODI
MO?'ION BY MS. SXEREK� SECONDED BY MR_ BGT20LD� TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEAP.In*G.
UPOI+' A VOICE VOTE, AIL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BILLT�'GS DECLARED THE PUBLIC
HEARZNG OPEN RT 9:09 P.M.
Mr. Robinson stated these ordinance changes had been discussed previously by
the Planning Cor�mission. ^bw, it was required that the Planning Commission
have a public hearin9 and recommend to City Council these amendments to the
City Code.
Mr. Robinson reviewed with the Conmission the revisions to the ordinance.
MOTION BY MS. SHERF,K, SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK, TO CLOSE THE PUBLZC HEARING.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CNAIRPERSOf7 BZLLZNGS DECLARED THF. PUBLIC
HEARIP7G CLOSED AT 9:15 P.M.
MOTZON BY MS. SHEREK, SECONDED BY MR. K077DRICK� TO RECOMl4END TO CITY COUNCIL
TXE ADOPTZON OF AlT ORDINANCE RF.CODIFYING CHRPSER 205 OF THE FRIDLEY CITY
CODE AS IT RELATES TO DUMpSTER ENCIASURES, HEALTX CARE CLINIC PARKING,
CHURCHES� Al1D GARAGE SETBACKS.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE� CHAZRPERSON BILLZNGS DECLARF.D THE MOTION
CARRIED UNRNIMOUSLY.
PLANNING COMPIISSIOPd h1EETIN6, FEBRUARY 25 1987 PAGE 10
3. COf�SIDER11TI0N OF ALTEP.ING TNE PLANNIFIG COMI4ISSION AGEN�A SCHEDULE TO INCLUDE
Mr. Robinson stated that in the agenda was a memo he had written to the Planning
Cor,snission members and City Council members dated Feb. 11, 1987, which
recommended to the City Council that the Planning Conmission be authorized
to establish bi-monthly meetings at which time they would discuss long range
planning activities. The memo further established the framework whereby
the Goemission could address really pertinent issues facing the City and
set goals, identify solutions, and develop a workplan.
fdO.TION BY MR. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MR. BESZOLD� TNA.T THE PLAIdNING COMMZSSZON
CHAZRPERSON PRESENT THE MEMD DATED FEB. 12� 1987� FROAS JIM ROBINSON, RF,GARDING
„PLANNING COMMISSION GOAL SETTING" TO THE CiTY COUNCIL MEMBERS AT THEIR
COTJFERENCE MEETING ON+IARCH 30� 1987.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CNAIRPERSOI� BILLINGS DECLARED THl. MO;IDIJ
CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY.
4. RECEIVE JANUARY. 8, 1937, HOUSIPJG & REDEVELOPFIEP�T AUTfIORITY �1INUTES:
MOTIDN BY MR. KONDRZCK� SECONDED BY MS. SHEREK� TO RF.CEIVE THE JAN. 8, 1987,
HOUSSNG 6 ftEDEVELOPh1ENT AUTXORITY MINUTES.
UPON R VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON BILLZNGS DECLARED TNE MOTION
CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY,
5. RECEIVE fEBRUARY U, 1987, APPEALS COPI�4ISSION MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. HETZOLD, SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK, TO RECEIVE THE FEB. 17, 1987,
APPEALS COMMZSSIDN MINUTES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CNAZRPER50N BZLLZNGS DECLARED THE MOTIO�;
CARRZED UNANZMOUSLY.
6. OTHER 6USIf�ESS:
Mr. Bnndow reported that the Community Energy Council Grant App7ication the
City subr�itted has been approved. It will cover residential energy code
compliance and education as well as some recycling in the amount of 515,000.
ADJOURflt^ENT:
MO:"ION BY 14R. KONDRZCK, SECONDED BY MR. BONDOW, TO RDJOURN THE MEETING. UPON A
VOICE VOTE, RLL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSOl7 BILLIIIGS DECLARED THE FEB, 25, I98.',
PLANNZNG COMIdISS7017 MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:45 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Recording Secretary
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PROPERTY INFORMATION
PROPERTY ADIRFSS 6501 E River Road Fridle MN 55432
LF�AL DESQtIPPION• ��
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NAME (please priRt) Carl E Christensen PHONE # 427-1048. 571-1600
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NAME (please print)_Christensen Auto Sody, Inc. pHqqE # 571-1600
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PUBLIC HEARING
BEFORE 4HE
�T,ANNING O�MMISSION
Notice is hereb� given that there will be a Public Heacing of the Planning
Canmission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431 University Avenue
Northeast on WecL�esday, March 11, 1987 in the Council Chamber at 7:30 p.m.
for the purpose of:
Consideration of a Rezoning, ZOA #87-01, by Christenson
Auto Body, Inc. , per to rezone fran I: 3, General Multiple
Dwelling, to C-2, General Business, on Lots 23 and 24
together with 1/2 vacated alley, Block 6, Fridley Park,
acwrding to the glat thezeof on file and of record in
the office of the County Recorder in and f oz Anoka
County. Minnesota. the same being 6501 East River Road
N. E.
Any and all persons desiring to be heard shall be given an opportunity at the
above stated time and place.
S�UE BII,LINGS
Q]AIItNY1N
PLANNING O�MMISSIGN
Pu4lish: February 23, I987
Nlarch 2. 1987
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ZpA #87-01
Christensen Auto BodY
Carl Christensen
15684 Potawatani Avenue N.W.
pn3over, I•II�l 55303
Christensen Auto Bociy
6501 East River Road N,E.
Fridley, NIN 55432
David Bender
91 - 66th way N.E.
Fridley, M1�7 55432
John Mehall
80 - 66th Way N.E.
Fridley, FIId 55432
Rnger Nawroaki
90 - 66th way N.E.
Fridley, D'A7 55432
Bryan Gen-3in
91 - 65 1/2 Way N.E,
Fridley, MN 55432
Donald Johnson
6600 Hickory Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Richarcl I.arson
6580 Hickory Street N,E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Alfred xlous 5
6594 Hickozy Street N,E,
Fridley, MN 55432
Charles Langer 4
6530 Hickozy Stseet N.E,
Fridley, MN 55432
Dallas Hansen `
6502 Hickory Drive N,E,
Fridley, M[3 55432
Edward Brooks �
6506 Hickozy Drive N,E,
Fridley, MN 55432
Arlene Fernandes �
95 Mississippi Way N,E,
Fridley, *�7 55432
planning gebruary 19, 1987 IB
Council
MF,ILING LI5f
Shar-Ann Pmperti.es
3948 Central Avenue N.E.
Minneapolis� MN 55421
J�r�n Cirks
6551 East River Road N,E,
Fridley, NII� 55432
Gerald Paschke
6279 University Avenue N,E.
Suite 202
Fridley, NIN 55432
Charles Sparks
6601 East River Road N,E.
Fridley� MN 55432
'I�,con rtanagement Znc .
321 Oniversity Avenue SE
Minneapolis, MN 55414
East River Road Corporation
6550 East River Road N.E,
Fridley, MN 55432
Klaus Freyinger
1323 Bohland Place
St. Paul, MN 55116
Riverside Car Wash
6520 East River Rnad N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Randell Olehefske
166 Talmadge Way N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Michael Servetus Cemetazy
7170 Riverview Terrace N,E.
Fridley, Mt3 55432
Bruce NozrD�erg +
6560 Hickoxy Street N.E
Fridley, NIN 55432
Franz Flath "
6570 Hickory Street N.E.
Fridley, NID1 55432
Sylvia Yau�ns
81 - 65 1/2 Way N,E.
Fridley, P'ID7 55432
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Michael Sichak
71 - 65 1/2 Way N.E,
Fridley, hID1 55432
gedeemer Lutheran Church
61 Mississippi Way N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Robert Andres
117 Mississippi Place
Fridley, MN 55432
Rd�ert P.ndres
3368 - 8th Avenue North
Andta, 1�A7 55303
Ch-0x Properties Inc.
137 t+lississipp Place N.E.
Fridley, 6'A7 55432
Ch-Ox Properties Inc.
13562 Highway 65 N.E.
Anoka, MN 55303
Ace Supply Co, Inc.
157 Mississippi Place N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Ace Supply Co, Inc.
3825 Fdgewood Avenue South
St. Louis Park, MN 55426
William Corcoran
111 - 64 1/2 Way N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
EY�gene Herraricksen
2944 - 37th Avenue South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
Etiagene Hendrickson
120 Mississippi Place N,E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Lafond and Lewascko
140 Mississippi Place N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
I.afond and Lewascko
459 - 46th Avenue
Blaine, MN 55432
SP A87-03
ZpA #87-01
Christenson Auto Body
Murphy oil Corp.
6485 East River Road N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
MUrphy Oil Cozp.
2005 Jefferson Stseet
E1 Dorado, AR 71730
June Sakry
121 - 64 1/2 Way N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
John Kimbler
80 Mississippi Way N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Leo Ca�a
6443 Fast River Road N,E,
Fridley, MN 55432
LeFtoy Erlandson
60 Mississippi Way N,E.
Fridley, NIN 55432
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Notice is hereby given
Conunission of the City
Northeast on Wec�esday,
for the purpose of:
HJBLIC HEARING
BEFORE 'IIlE
H.ANNING Q�MMISS70N
that there will be a Public Hearing of the Planning
of fYidle� in the City Hall at 6431 University Avenue
March 11, 1987 in the Council Chamber at 7:30 p.m.
Consideration of a Special Use Permit, SP #87-03, by
CY�ristenson Auto Body, Ina , per Section 205.14.1, C, 4
of the Fridley City Code. to allow a re�ir gacage on
Lots 23 and 24 together with 1/2 vacated alley, Block 6,
Fridley Park; per Section 205.09.1, C, 10 of the Fridley
City Cocie, to allow exterior storage of materials and
equignent on Lots 25 through 28 together with 1/2 vacated
alle�, Block 6, Fridle� Pazk; per Section 205.09.1, C, 4
of the Fridley City Gode, to allow an autanobile parking
lot on Lots 25 through 28 together with 1/2 vacated
alley, Block 6, Fridle� Park, except that �rt of said
Lot 28. Block 6, Fridley Park described as follows:
Beginning at the Northeast oorrer of said Lot 29, thence
Southwesterly along the Northwesterly line of said Lot 29
to a Fnint on said Northwesterly lire distant 178.5 feet
Southwesterly of the Northeast mrner of Lot 12, Block 6,
Fridley Park, as measured along the Northwesterly line of
said Lot 12 and the same as extended Southwesterly to t]�e
Northeast ourrer of said Lot 29, and the Northwesterly
lir.e of said Lot 29; thence Southeasterly Farallel to the
Northeasterly lires of Lots 12 and 13, Block 6, Fridley
Park for a distance of 53 feet; thence Northeasterly
�rallel to the Northwesterly lire of said Lot 29 to the
Northeasterly lire of said Lot 28, Block 6, Fridley Park;
thence Northwesterly along the Northeasterly lines of
said Lots 28 and 29 to the �int of beginning, according
to the map or plat thereof on file and of record in the
office of the Register of Dee� in and for Arwka County,
Minnesota, the same being 6501 and 6509 East River Road
N. E.
Any and all persons desiring to be heard shall be given an opportunity at the
above stated time and place.
STEUE BILL7NGS
QIAIItM�N
H,ANNING Q�MMISSION
Puhlish: Februaty 23, 1987
March 2, 1987
2P,
SP #87-03
ZOA #87-01
Christensen Auto Body
Carl Christensen
15684 Potawatomi Avenue N.W,
Andover, MN 55303
Christensen Auto Body
6501 East River Road N.E,
Fridley, NIN 55432
David Bender
91 - 66th way N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
John Mehall
SO - 66th Way N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Roger Nawrocki
90 - 66th Way N.E.
Fridley, P'IIV 55432
Biyan Gen3in
91 - 65 1/2 Way N.E,
Fridley, MN 55432
Donald Jol'inson
6600 Hickozy Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Richard Larson
6580 Hickory Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Alfred Klous
6544 Hi�3coiy Street N,E,
Fridley, MN 55432
Charles langer
6530 Hickory Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Dallas Iiansen
6502 Hickory Drive N,E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Edward Brooks
6506 Hickory Drive N,E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Arlene Fei-nandes
95 Mississippi Way N.E,
Fridley, !�7 55432
Planning
Council
MAILING LIST
Shar-Ann Properties
3948 Central Avenue N.E.
Minneapolis, MN 55421
JoAnn Cirks
6551 East River Road N,E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Gerald Paschke
6279 University Avenue N.E.
Suite 202
Fridley, NII� 55432
Charles Sparks
6601 East River Road N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
�con Management Inc,
321 University Avenue SE
Minneapolis, MN 55414
East River RQad Corporation
6550 East River Road N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Klaus Freyinger
1323 Bohland Place
St. Paul, MN 55116
P.iverside Car Wash
6520 East River RQad N.E,
FYidley, MN 55432
Randell Olehefske
166 Ta]madge Way N,E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Michael Servetus Cemetary
7170 Riverview Terrace N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Bruce Nordberg
6560 Hickozy Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Franz Flath
6570 HickoYy Street N.E.
Fridley, NII�7 55432
S�lvia Yow�Ls
81 - 65 1/2 Way N,E.
Fridley, D'II�I 55432
Februazy 19, 1987
Page 1 of 2
Michael Sichak
71 - 65 1/2 Way N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
:
Redeemer Lutheran Church
61 Mississippi Way N,E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Robert Andres
117 Mississippi Place
Fridley, MN 55432
Robert Andres
3368 - 8th Avenue North
Anoka, MN 55303
Ch-O�c Properties Inc.
137 t9ississipp Place N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Ch-O�c Properties Inc.
13562 Highway 65 N.E.
Anoka, MN 55303
Ace Supply Co, Inc.
157 blississippi Place N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Ace Supply Co, Inc.
3825 Fdgewood Avenue South
St, Louis Park, MI�1 55426
William Corcoran
111 - 64 1/2 Way N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
E�gene Hendricksen
2944 - 37th Avenue South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
ELigene Hendrickson
120 Mississippi Place N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Lafond and Lewascko
140 Mississippi Place N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Lafond and Izwascko
459 - 96th Avenue
Blaine, MN 55432
SP #87-03
ZOA #87-01
Christenson Auto Body
Murphy Oil Corp.
6485 East River Rnad N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Murphy Oil Corp.
2005 Jefferson Street
E1 Dorado, AR 71730
June Sakry
121 - 64 1/2 Way N.E,
Fridley, MN 55432
John Kimbler
80 Mississippi Way N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Leo Carda
6443 East River Road N.E,
Fridley, MN 55432
LeRoy Erlan3son
60 Mississippi Way N.E.
Fridley, D'IN 55432
Page 2 of 2
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PARKS & RECREATION COHPIISSIO��
FIEETIWG
FEBRUARY 2, 1987
CALL TO ORDER:
ifice-Chairperson Schreiner called the February 2, 1987, Parks & Recreation
Conmission r�eeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
ROLL CALL: -
Menbers Present: tdary Schreiner, Dick Yaung, Dan Al1en, John Gargaro
Menbers Absent: Dave Kondrick
Others Present: Jack Kirk, Director of Recreation and Natural Resources
Ralph Volkman, Public Works Superintendent
John Flora, Public Works Director
Nancy Jorgenson, City Council
Jane Shaw, 5854 Stinson Blvd. N.E.
(see attached list)
APPROVAL OF Ji1NUARY 5 1987, PARY.S R RECREATIOtJ COr'NIISSION MfNUTES:
MOTZON BY MR. ALLEN� SECONDED BY MR. GARGARO� TO APPROVE TNF. FEB. 2� 2987�
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE� VICE-CNAIRPERSON SCXREINER DECLARED THE
MOTION CRRRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
APPROVAL OF A6ENDA:
MOTION BY MR.ALLEN� SECONDED BY MR. GARGARO, TO APPROVE TXE RGENDA AS
SUBMITTED.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON SCHREINER DECLARED TNE
MOTYON CARRIF.D UNANIMOUSLY. �
1. STAFF REPORT:
a. Parking Lot at Community Park
IAr. Kirk stated that for the past couple of years, the City has looked
at tlie possibility qf paving the overflow area at the Cottmunity Park.
Those who had been at tht"'park during the softball season realize the
need for additional parking. He stated the City should be able to pave
this area th9s spring and provide 93 aGditi�na7 parking spaces.
PARKS & RECREATI01� COMMISSIOIJ MEETING FEBRUARY 2 1987 PAGE 2
b. Program Supervisor Position.
Idr. Kirk stated that at the last meeting, he had reported to the Commission
that they had just started receivinq applications for this position.
He stated they received 140 applications for the one position. They
narrowed that to 20 people who took part in a written exercise; then to
9 people who came in for oral interviews; then to three people who were
invited bzck to meet the City Manager. He stated just th�t day the job
was offered and accepted by Rick DeGardner from Duluth.
f1r. Y.irk stated F1r. DeGardner would be starting work on Feb. 18. Ile hoped
Mr. DeGardner would be able to attend the next Comiission meeting to meet
the Corrroissioners.
c. Locke Park Relighting
Mr. Flora stated that currently at Locke Park they have an area designated
for broomball and an area for open skating. However, it was basically
sized for baseball with the lights, the infield, backstop, etc. The base-
ball field had not been used for a number of years. Down in the lower
area was a soccer field used during the surm�er.
Mr. Flora stated in order to make better use of the facility, the City
was proposing to retain the broomball area, the open sl:ating area, and
provide for a lighted soccer facility. By usin� the existing poles from
the outfield of the baseball field, they
could service the hockey rink and the open skating area. and the soccer
field. There would still be enough space available to put in one future
soccer field using the existing poles to light that.also. They have been able
to salvage enough money out of the 1986 budget to relocate the poles and
light the broomball rink, open skating rink, and one soccer field.
�4r. Flora stated they can then always hudget for some additional ligh*_in�
to ]ight the future Sdce�r ��ld if requireu. ��o, witti a minvmum anount of mone
they are providing soccer facilities for use by the various tea�s in the
City and they can
continue to provide the broomball and open skating areas with better light-
ing, more efficient use of the lights, and also provide the expansion for
the soccer program should it continue in the City of Fridley. He stated
soccer was really growing in other cortmunities, such as Coon Rapids and
Blaine.
Mr. Young stated the City of Dlaine has a big socce�^ cornplex on 105th Ave.,
anci they are being considered as an olympic trainin� village for the U. S.
Olynpic Soccer team. The City of Blaine was lookiny at the possibility of
building a 12,000 seat soccer stadium, dormitory,trtinirng faciTity, both
for soccer and speed skating, mainly because of the emphasis by thaL
conro�unity for soccer. Blaine has held three World Cup soccer tournanents.
If something like that new stadium comes to Blaine, it was definitely
goiny to significantly impact the soccer progra� in fridley.
PARKS & RECREATION COMt1ISSI01� HEETIN6, FEBRUARY 2, 1987 PAGF 3
The Commissioners concurred with the plan and recommend that City Council
approve the Locke Park relighting as proposed by h1r. Flora.
e. Rivervie�� Heights Park
Mr. Kirk stated the Corimissioners had received a memo from �1yra Gibson,
Planning Assistant, regardinq the Planninc� Department's past and present
activities in the development of Riverview Heights Park. This was for
the Commission's information.
14r. Kirk stated that in 1983, the City received $115,100 in CDBG monies and
$53,750 in LAWCOIJ/LCMR monies to acquire and relocate structures on Parcels
1 and 2 in Riverview Heights. In 1985, the City received $37,164 in CDBG
monies for the continued development. The City added the 1985 CDBG monies
to the �y24,400 in 1986 CDBG monies, for a total of $61,564. Currently,
the City was using the 1985 and 1986 mo�ies to acquire Parcel 3.
Mr. Kirk stated the City has proposed to use $67,000 in CDBG monies in
1987 to acquire Parcel 8. In 1988, the City has proposed to use �61,000
in CDBG monies to acquire Parcel 6 and Parcels 4 and 5 which have
no structures. In 1989,the City has proposed to use $30,000 in CDBG monies
to begin the development of Riverview Heights Park.
Mr. Flora stated !Tr. Volkman spent quite a bit of time in this area during
the winter to clear and clean up the park, and there is a 6arrier fence
around the city-oamed property. It was hoped that with the CDBG funds
as well as some additional city funds they will be able to go in with a
program and=imprvae the park. They plan to put in some picnic
tables close to tne water and maybe some charcoal grills as a start to �ive
people a feel for what is available. As money becomes available, additional
facilities will be put in.
Mr. Young stated there were a number of people who live around Craig Park
who are not too happy about the proposed development in Riverview Heights.
They fear their park is going to be eliminated, and there is no way they
want their children at a park down by the river. He and the other
Cortmissioners were concerned about that, too. It would be nice for a
picnic area, but what other element would they be bringing in? Locke Park
has had a problem in the past, even with the Anoka County Rangers patrolling
the park, and with the City of Fridley not having enough people to enforce
or patrol park areas like this, were they.looking at a potential problem
area opening up?
Idr. Flora stated there was no doubt the park could he abusPd. It was
their feeling that by clearing the area and opening it up for grass to
grow and for greater visibility that maybe some of the negative aspects
of the land use would not be there.
Ms. Schreiner stated that as t4r. Young had mentioned, they have had several
people express concern about the netv park, and the Cormiission was also
concerned about any plans for ttiat park. The Commission has been having
people askino them if Craig Park was in danger.
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING, FE6RUARY 2, 1987 PAGE 4
Mr, Flora stated he had no answer to that questio� as there
were no plans for Craig Park at tiiis time.
Springbrook Nature Center Ponding Project
P1r. Flora stated he wanted to give the Comnission a quick update on this
project. He stated Mr. St. Clair has had some desires in the past to
improve the habitat in the Nature Center. The City has been concerned
about the amount of storm water draining into the city anci the flooding
down on Broad Street in Fridley. Coon Rapids has been excited about the
development they are doing north of 132 or 85th Ave.; and most recently,
the Six Cities Watershed t4anage�nt Organization prepared a nanagenent
plan which encompasses Springbrook and this area.
I�r. Flora stated that based on all that, they came up with a plan to put
storm water into the Nature Center which would provide a storm water faci-
lity and provide amenities and habitat for the tJature Center. Mr. Flora
described the ponding project. lie stated this plan has been coordinated
with P1r. St. Clair and the Springbrook Nature Center foundation. The plan
was now being reviewed by the DNR for a permit and the Soil & Water Conser-
vation District for its concurrence. Once they receive those, they will
be in a position for the City of Coon Rap�ds and City of Fridley to enter
into a cooperative agreement to do the project: '.Jhat was being proposed
was the City of Fridley would provide the land, and the City of Coon Rapids
would provide the dollars. They hed hoped to start the project this
winter; but because of th� mild winter, it would probably be done the
winter of 1987.
2. NEIJ BUSIPJESS:
a. Innsbruck Nature Area
Ms. Shaw stated the Commissioners had a copy of the petition which stated:
"We, the undersigned citizens of Fridley, declare our support anA concern
for the Innsbruck Nature Park. We urge the City to place the park on a
higher priority level for overall maintenance as welt as promoting greater
use of the park through occasional activities."
MOTZON BY /:R. GRRGARO� SECONDED BY MR. YOUNG� TO RECEIVE PETITIDN N0.
INTO 2HE RECORD.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL [/OTING AYE, YICE-CXAIRPERSON SCHREINER DECLARED
TXE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
his. Shaw stated that everyone she spoke to were 100% behind revitalizing
the park. She stated there was a feeling in the neighborhood thar they
have been neglected. She thought the overwhelming response she got was
that people are not using the park because the City is not maintaining it.
They are hesitant to go into the park knowing the trails are not maintained
and just knowing that the City has taken a low profile in this area.
PARKS � RECREATIOtJ COMt1ISSI0N MEETIIJG, FEBRUARY 2, 1987 PAGE 5
Ms. Shaw stated the people support the park and support its existence and
the continuance of it. They want to see the park become a viable park
once again. She stated tfiey are concerned ebout vandalism in the park
and just the fact that the park has been allowed to go downhill. It was
the overall opinion of the people that the trails should be reopened again
and kept open. There was also no longer a sign at the Arthur St. entrance.
Ms. Shaw stated many of the people who have been in the area for a long
time are very saddened to have seen the park have such a glorious beginning
�aith the trails and the nature programs and then to watch it slotvly decline
when Springbrook Nature Center opened.
�4s. Shaw stated the use
has come abuses of the
going on in the park.
of the park has declined, and along with that
park--vandalism and just negative types of things
I4s. Schreiner asked what kind of vandalism I4s. Shaw was talking about.
P1s. Shaw stated she �aas talking about occasional tree cutting, unautliorized
motorized vehicles, although that does not happen as frequently at this
time because of complaints to the police, and vandalism to the A-frame
building.
I�s. Schreiner asked if it was the wish of the people to have the trails
reop�ned and maintained, but otherwise just keep the park in its natural
state.
Ms. Shaw stated the people want the park to remain a natural park, because
there are so few natural areas in the City. It was the overwhelming
opinion of those she talked to that, yes, let's keep the park a natural
area, but have some trails they can at least walk on. This park is one
of Fridley's canmunity resources and it should be better taken care of.
The trails do not have to be elegant and perfectly groomed, but trees have
to be removed and steps on the ridges have to be either replaced or removed,
There was a tremendous amount of soil erosion on the ridges as the original
steps went almost straight up. If it was a major problen to replace the
steps, then maybe the steps should be removed and the trails rerouted. The
main thing was that people want to use the park and the trails.
Ms. Shaw stated she had made an informal outline of the park, and she
ha:l put together a list of concerns and suggestions by area residents,
numbering the areas referred to on the map so the Comnission members could
see what areas she was talking about in the park.
�4s. Shaw stated the main bridge was completely gone, and that bridge
was really necessary because of the extremely marshy area there.
Ms. Shaw stated she would like to see a new sign at the Arthur St. entrance.
A nice idea would be a map showing the park boundaries and park trails,
because the park was surrounded by residential hones. Hopefully, there
could be a sign that would indicate park hours and soMe of the rules so
there would be guidelines for people to follow.
PARKS & RECREATION COFIMISSION MEETIN6, FEBRUARY 2 1987 PAGE 6
Ms. Shaw stated another concern expressed by many people was the walking
entrance to the park from Stinson Blvd. That entrance has been com-
pletely obiiterated. When the contractor put in the new homes on the
New Brighton side, he leveled the end of their street, took down the park
sign, obliterated the patl►, and felled some oak trees into the marsh.
The contractor threw brush, debris, extra sod, and other junk onto
park property: A lot of people would like to see the watking path
restored because there was a whole section of park trail that has been
destroyed. The contractor should have been Made to clean up the mess or
at least be assessed for the damage. She stated she did call the City
at the time about the damage. Someone from the City came out and the sign
was put back, but the trail was never repaired. Now, hardly anyone comes
down to that end of the street. It really bothered her that the damage
had occurred and that nothing had been done as it really made an impact
on that section of trail in the park.
t�s. Shaw stated there have been some worries about the trees in the park.
This contractor did some damage and exposed a lot of oak tree roots.
A lot of the trees seem to be dying. She did not know if the City paid
any attention ta tree management, but she tliought within a natural park
area, the City would want to.
14s. 5haw stated there have been a lot of questions about the future of
the park. Are they going to lose their park? They really want thP park
and want it to be usable again. What was the status of the park now, and
tivhat does the City see for its future?
Ms. Shaw stated the neighborhood feels that the park should be promoted
by possibly some programming by Siah St. Clair to remind people in the
City of Fridley that this park is still here. It would help to have some
publicity in the city newsletter froM tine to time. She felt that when
the use started to increase again, they would see a decrease in some of
the negative things going on now in the park.
Ms. Shaw stated there were some safety concerns--people hesitate to let
their children go back in the park because of the lack of traffic flow.
Ms. Shaw stated she was also amazed at the number of people who volunteered
their time to help the City with restoration and maintenance if needed.
P1r. Flora stated the main things brought up by Ms. Shaw were thin�s that
have been noted by City Staff. He stated one thing they have to remember
was that when Springbrook Nature Center was developed, the nature program-
ming was all moved to Springbrook. At that time the decision was made
that Innsbruck would basically be kept as a primitive park with just the
walking trails.
Mr. Flora showed on a map the major trails that were still usable. He
stated the steep banks with steps were a real problem. Since they do not
have the Boy Scouts and other activities that go along with nature center
activities, it was the City's proposal to put switchbacks in that would
eliminate the steps and go with small grades which would allow access, low
maintenance, and no erosion, but would still provide access from one point
to another.
PARKS & RECREATION COM�IISSION MEETIN6, FEBRUARY 2, 1987 PAGE 7
Mr. Flora stated some areas have disappeared from lack of traffic and
graath because of the lack af traffic. He stated there were probably
three places where culverts would be necessary.
�4r. Flora stated the City's concern was access and vandalism also, and
one of the City's fears was that by having too many access points, it was
very hard to control the traffic and the movements and to patrol it,
Therefore, the City saw the paintenance of two major access points--one
off Arthur St. by the A-frame as the major entrance, and the obvious one
by the Dlack Forest aparta�ents off the ridge line.
Mr. Flora stated the City had an insurance adjuster go through the park
and evaluate it. He came up with some of the same things the City was
looking at--the switchbacks and the elimination of the steps. It 4ias his
reasoning that if a bridge was put back in, there needed to be safety
rails, the bridge needed to be maintained, and bridges were subject to
vandalism. So, that brought them back to using culverts so there was not
that kind of problem. He suggested limited access points and also
continuing the paths so they are complete circles providing access from
one point to another.
14r. Flora stated they did informally discuss this with the City Council,
outlining the maintenance program. It was something they could do durinn
the year with the limited budget since no expenditures were identified
for this park in the budget. Anything beyond that would take a major
effort, 6oth in personnel and finances, to get ac�omplished. He felt
most of the things brought up by Ms. Shaw would be taken care of this year--
providing the walkway system, providing crossings over the water, putting
in the paths for connections, posting a new sign at the entrance on
Arthur St., and providing a routed or color-coded map showing the trails.
Mr. Flora stated that as far as prograrmting in the park, that o�ould have
to be looked at by 14r. St. Clair.
Ms. Shaw stated she would strongly urge the City to consider reopening
the foot path from Stinson Blvd., because they never have abusers of the
park coming in fran that way. The neighborhood really watches the park
on that side, and that was a natural access point for people to enter
the park, unless they are coming by car and want to go around to the
parking area. There was much more trouble fran the south end of the ridge.
The people.who would use this entrance would be walkers.
Mr. Flora stated one of the City's concerns was when they provide access
into a wooded unattended area, it affords a place for people to throw
trash, and the City does not want to provide that type of access.
Mr. Flora stated it was his goal to make the park basically a no-maintenance,
self-sustaining park.
Ms. Shaw stated, again, she would urge Staff to reconsider the walkin�
entrance from Stinson Blvd.
�
& RECREATION COhU1ISSIQN MEETIP�G, FEBRUARY 2, 1987 PAGE 8
Mr. Flora stated he would discuss this with the general staff to get
their feelings on it.
Mr. Allen stated that access could be added at a later date. He thought
the major emphasis at this time was to get the trails reopened and repaired.
MOTION BY MR. GARGARO� SECONDED BY MR. ALLEN� TO RECEISB MR. FIARA'S MEMO
DATED JAN. 12� 1987� AND TO APPROVE TNE PROPOSED MAINTENANCE PROGRAM FOR
INNSBRUCK NATURE CENTER.
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE� VZCE-CHRIRPERSON SCHREINER DECLARED
TNE MOTION CARRIED UN$NIMOUSLY.
Mr. Gargaro stated he would recormnend that 14r, flora do sane investigation
into the access along Stinson Blvd. to see if an entrance was feasible,
both from the planning aspect and the policing aspect.
Mr. Allen stated he would encourage t1r. St. Clair to look into any kind of
prograrmning that could be added to this area to make it more of a usable
area.
Mr. Kirk stated once the park is r�ade usable again, promotion for the park
was an excellent idea. As far as programning, he has discussed this with
hir. St. Clair. It was possible that once the park was being used again, sor�e
type of programtinq could be done; however, at this time, it was not very
feasible because of the problems Springbrook has had this past sumner.
and the fact that they are trying to keep the Nature Center staffed anA
open seven days a week.
�1s. Schreiner thanked Ms. Shaw and her neighbors for coming to the meetin�.
t4r. Allen stated Ms. Shaw and the neighbors were to be commended for
coming together and making an effort like this. It took a lot of extra
work.
Ms. Schreiner stated Ms. Shaw and the neighbors approached the Corimission
in a very positive way, and the Commission really appreciated that.
b. Softball Tournament Request - Fridley Tiger Hockey Booster Club
Mr. Kirk stated the Corrr�ission had an application fron the Fridley Tiger
Hockey Booster Club for their llth annual softball tournament scheduled
for June 26-28, 1987.
MOTION BY MR. ALLEN� SECONDED BY MR. GARGARO, TO RECEIVE AND APPROVF.
THE REQUEST BY ^_'XE FRIDLEY TIGER XOCKEY BOOSTER CLUB TO HOLD THEIR SOFT-
BALL TOURNAMENT ON JUNE 26-28� Z987, A:" TXE COMMUNITY PRRK.
UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VZCE-CHRIRPERSON SCHREINER DECLRRED
THE MOTION CRRRIED (INANIMOUSLY.
PARKS & RECREATIO�d COMMISSIOF! t4EETING, fEBRUARY 2, 1987 PAGE 4
3. OLD BUSINESS:
a. FYSA - City Financial Contribution
Mr. Kirk stated that at the last meeting, they had talked about a concern
expressed by a citizen regardin9 the fact that some children were not
being given a chance to participate in games in the FYSA, specifically
referring to girls' basketball. He stated the Comnissioners had a copy
of �4r. & Mrs. Shelton's letter stating their concern dated Jan. 16, 1987.
Mr. Kirk stated the Comnissioners had also received a copy of a Proposed
Agreement between the City of Fridley and the FYSA for a financial contri-
bution based on a per�participant basis. He stated he had talked to
Jim Sydow, the new President of the FYSA, and t1r. Sydow did concur with it.
Mr. Kirk stated that at the last meeting, Mr. Gargaro had asked the question
of who would monitor these participation guidelines. He stated he felt
the parents would monitor it. If there was a participation rule instituted
by the FYSA and it was made available to the parents at the time of re9istra-
tion, they could rest assured thatif a child�is not playing, a parent is
going to start questioning why.
Mr. Young stated one thing that had to be clarified was what was meant 6y
participation. If a child gets in 30 seconds in a basl:etball game, the
coach could say that child participated. He thought there had to be some-
thing which explained participation time a little more explicitly.
Mr. Kirk stated he shared Nr. Young's concerns. He had discussed this at
length with Mr. Sydow. They felt it would be better if the participation
rule came fran within the FYSA. It should be the FYSA's suggestion as to
what was to be implemented. They felt it would be better received by the
fYSA than if just he and Mr. Sydow put it together. The other thing was
ttiat each individual sport might have different concerns. He stated he
has asked that the proposed agreement be submitted to the FYSA 6oard of
Directors for approval and each individual sport would set up their own
participation guidelines.
Ms. Schreiner stated she concurred with that. As long as parents are made
aware of the participation policy, they are goi�g to police it.
AdOTIDN BY MR. YOUNG, SECOf7DED BY MR. ALLEN� TO RECEIVE THE PROPOSED RGREE—
MENT AS SUPPORTED BY MR. KIRK RND MR. SYDOW� PRESIDENT OF TXE FYSA.
� UPON A VOZCE VOTE, RLL VOTING AYE, VICE—CHAIRPERSON SCHREINER DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED UNRNIMOUSLY.
Mr. Gargaro stated he agreed with Mr, Young's concern about what the
participation rules would be, and he would like to see the participation
rules that are set up by each sport.
PARKS & RECREATION CO�df4ISSI0N NEETING, FEBRUARY 2 1987 PAGE 10
Mr. Kirk stated that under #2 in the Proposed Agreement. it stated:
"This participation rule should be submitted to the fYSA Board of
Directors for approval and a copy of the participation rule should be
made available to all participants at the time of registration."
t4r. Kirk stated they could add that the participation rule be submitted
to the FYSA Board of Directors and the Farks & Recreation Commission for
approval. This would give the Commissioners a chance to look at the
rules and make any adjustments before the season actually begins. He
did not think �1r. Sydow would have a problem with that addition as he
was very supportive of this agreement.
The Comnissioners agreed with Mr. Kirk's suggestion.
fIDJOUR�JIIENT :
MOTION BY MR. ALLEN� SECONDED BY MR, GARGARO, TO AA70URN TXE MEETING. UPOC7 R
VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CXAIRPERSON SCXREINER DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Respectfully submitted,
Lyn Saba / �
Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
f1UMAN RESDURCES COMMISSION
t9EETING
FEBRUARY 5, 1987
CALI TO ORDER:
Chairperson Sherek called the February 5, 1987. Human Resources Comnission
meeting to order at 7:34 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Sue Sherek, Claudia Dodge, Paul Westby, Francis van Dan (arr. 7:50)
Mernbers Absent: Dick Storla
Otfiers Present: Bill Nunt, Assistant to the City Manager
APPROVAL OF DECEMBER 4 1986, HUP1M7 RESOURCES COMIIISSION MINUTES:
MOTZON BY MR. WESTBY, SECONDED BY MS. DODGE, TO APPROVE THE DEC. 4� 1986,
HIII4AN RESOURCES COMMISSION MZNUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING RYE, CHAIRPERSON SHEREK DECLARED TNE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
APPR()VAti- 0� AGENDA:
MOTION BY MS. DODGE, SECONDED BY MR. WESTBY� TO RPpROVE THE AGENDA WI2H THE
FOLIAWING ADDZTIONs �RESULTS OF SENIOR CITZZEN SURVEY — ITEM D UNDER "NEW
BUSINESS.
UPON R VOICE VOTE, RLL VOTZNG AYfi, CXAIRPERSON SHEREK DECLARED TNE MOTZON
CRRRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. OLD BUSINESS:
a. Consideration of 1986-87 lJorkplan
Ms. Sherek stated that un�ess there were any further additions, corrections,
or comments to the workplan, she would recommend the Commissi�n approve
it and send it onto the City Council.
Mr. Nunt stated some changes needed to be made on the last page under the
"CDBG Grants" goal. The Ca!mission made some deletions and chanqes.
MOTION BY MS. DODGS. SECONDED BY MR. WESTBY, TO RPPROVE TXE 1986-87
WORKPLAN AS AMENDED AND FORWARD IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL THROUGH THF.
PLANNING COMMZSSZON.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CAAIRPERSON SHEREK DECLARED THF. MOTZON
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
HUt�N RESOURCES COMMISSION PtEETING, FEBRUARY 5 1987 PAGE 2
b. Policies and Procedures for No-Fault Grievance Committee
Ms. Sherek stated that included in the agenda were the No-Fault Grievance
forms that were discussed at the last meeting. She stated Staff had done
a very good joh in putting together the foms.
t•1s. Sherek stated the State Department of Human Riqhts had tentatively
sclieduled a No-Fault 6rievance trai�ing session for April 11 at fridley
City Hall. She stated they should notify those people who have expressed
an interest in taking the training and also put notices in the Fridley
Focus and on Channel 13 for anyone who might be interested in taking the
training.
Ms. Sherek stated the No-Fault Grievance forms should be given out to
those people who have been trained; and, in addition, they should be given
to those people who come to the training who will become No-Fault 6rievance
Canmittee members for the City of Fridtey.
(Mr. van Dan arrived at the meeting at 7:50 p.m.)
Ms. Sherek stated the number of people calling for grievances was way up
for awhile and now has dropped off to nothing. In several cases, she
contacted the people repeatedly and qot no response. Whether they went
ahead and filed formal complaints, she did not know. One thinc� she did
notice was that the State has been notifying her to please cease all No-
Fault Grievance action because the person had filed a formal complaint.
lJhen looking at the date of the complaint, it was anywhere between 90 rtays
and nine months old, so the State was no�ifying her a little after the fact.
In revie�aing the Policies and Procedures for the No-Fault Grievance
Conmittee, the Commission members discovered that throughout the forms,
the �•�ords, "Fridley Ruman Rights Commission" was used. They agreed this
should be changed to "Fridley Human Resources No-Fault Grievance f,ommittee".
Mr. 11unt stated he would review the language throughout the forms and
make all tlie necessary corrections.
MO'"ZON BY MS. DODGE� SECONDED BY MR. WESTBY� TO ADOPT TXE POLICZES AND
PROCEDURES FOR THE ND-FAULT GRZEVANCE COMMITTEE� SUBJECT TO EDITING BY
STRFF.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CNAIRPERSON SHEREK DECLARED TXE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
(At this time, I1s. Sherek welcaned �1r. van Dan to the Cormission and
introduced him to the other commissianers.)
c. Otlier Old Business
(1) 14ediation Center for Anoka County
11r. Hunt stated he would give the Co�nission a brief update on the
ftediation Center for Anoka County. He stated he has been meetinn
with the Task Force. The Task Force should be cor�in� to an end no�a
HUf1AN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 5 1987 PAGE 3
�,
because the Task Force was incorporating. They have gotten certain
commitments for funding fran 6-7 cities in Anoka County. They have
hired an Executive Director who had started the previous �4onday. They
are going to have their first series of training sessions on Feb. 27.
He stated about 30-40 people have signed up for that training, so it
looked like it would be a very successful proqram.
Mr. Hunt stated there will be some problems with funding; however, because
even if all the cities participated, they would not get enough funding
for their budget. 6ut, they have a very strong Board. He stated they
are very similar to the qo-Fault Grievance Comriittee, except they are not
restricted to human ri_ghts violations or discriroination cases. They can
treat anything, and they will have a lot more professional trainin9 than
the I�o-fault Grievance Committee members.
3. NEIJ BUSINESS:
a. Consideration of Procedure for Allocating 1987 CDBG Funds for Human
Service Organizations
tdr. Hunt handed out all the forms that have been used in the past. The
Corrmissioners reviewed and revised the letter sent out to the organizations
requesting funding. They also reviewed the guidelines for organizations
reyuesting funding and the scoresheet used by the Comnissioners for ranking
the funding requests.
Mr. Hunt stated that right now the dollar figure for 1987 CDB� huroan
service funding was $32,954. This would go to the City Council for
approval on �4onday.
Ms. Sherek stated
the City Council,
May �eeting.
that unless the Commission gets any recocmendations from
they will not be working on CDBG funding now until the
b. Summer Employment Guidelines
Ms. Sherek stated the Cortmission did not receive the background informa-
tion requested from Staff. The Canmission was now in the same position
as last year in that it was nov� too late to make any recanmendations for
sunmer employment.
Ms. Sherek stated the Commission was requested last year to consider
adopting the State of t�innesota hiring guidelines where lower income
individuals are hired first, etc. The ultimate proposal to the City
Council was th at the sumner hiring be done in the order of previous success-
ful employees, lower income Fridley residents, other Fridley residents, other
losa income people, and then the city at large.
Mr. Hunt stated the original proposal was brought up by Councilperson
Goodspeed about this time last year. Councilperson foodspaed t_houqht
they should adopt the State of Minnesota guidelines which r�as first
HU11AN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETIN6, FEBRUARY 5 1987 PAGE 4
priority was given to people in loa�er income families or families where
one or both of the heads of households was unemployed, then other criteria.
After some discussions, the Human Resoucres Commission said first previous
satisfactory employees, then low income guidelines, then people fro�
Fridley and then other qualified people.
14r. Hunt stated the Planning Commission wanted to see low income people
from Fridley next, then fridley residents, and then other low income.
Ms. Sherek stated one question she had was, was it worthwhile doing this
kind of tracking? Are they talking about that many surtmer city employees?
The other question she had was whether it was appropriate to take seasonal
work like this and apply these low income guidelines in this type of
situation, when what saneone in a low income situation really needs is
permanent placement. A summer job was not an answer for a lot of these
people.
Mr. van Dan stated he was torn by some of the same concerns as 11s. Sherek.
Hovrever, they do not want these kids to be drop-outs. If they provided a
year-around job, they might drop out of school in order to keep that pay-
check coming in because the money was more important because of financial
constraints.
Ids. Sherek stated that what they hav? right now was a situation where there
is such a demand for teen-age labor services by the minimum wage places
that if they give these kids a surmier job and they lose that job at the
end of the summer, they are going to turn around and get a dead-end job
because they are used to having that cash in hand. She didn't know if
any real service was being served by targetinq these kids.
Mr. Westby asked if there was some type of information that could be given
to these kids who are hired for sumner employment that would e�ucate them
to some of their options like vocational schools, etc.
Ms. Sherek stated that was one of the aims of the CETA program some years
ago. But that tvas a comprehensive program where the federal qovernment
was funding the program.
I�. Dodge stated they have to look at the purpose of the hiring for the
summer program. IJas it to provide a service for younger people during
the surmner time and not to provide training? If the purpose was to provide
training, then they had to look at it from a different angle.
Mr. Hunt stated the genesis of this particular issue really did not deal
with training--the City is just providing jobs mainly for young people
during the summer because of the seasonal nature of the parks and recreation
programming. On the other hand, the State has employment guidelines for
sumner-type jobs, and Councilperson Goodspeed thought maybe they should
apply those guidelines to the City of Fridley. The issue of trainin� really
wasn't dealt with at all. He supposed it could come in indirectly because
obviously the young people learn some skills by having a job.
HUHAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETIN6, FEBRUARY 5, 1987 PAGE 5
Mr. Westby stated he realized the summer jobs were basically just for the
su�ner, but it would be nice to have some type of program that would
show these people there was something e�ore than a deadend job.
Mls. Sherek stated these type of services are ava9lable in Anoka County,
and she did nat know if it was appropriate for the City of fridley to
consider picking up on anything like that. It would require a corKnit-
ment of staff and resources she did not think the city had to offer. And,
it would be a duplication of services already provided in the County.
Hs. Dodge stated she does all the sumner hiring for the City of Ramsey,
and they do not have any low income guide}ines. She just hired the best
person for the job. It was hard enough as a supervisor to coordinate all
the kids and all the programs than to have to be tra�ning .them, too.
Maybe they could just tell the kids where this training or job services
were available if the city wanted to get into that. She sa�� a danger in
adopting the state lorl incane guidelines because you want to hire the
best qualified person for the job.
Mr. Hunt stated he would get the whole history of this for the Cornnission
at their next meeting, and after reviewing that information, the Commission
could decide where they wanted to go with it. Since it was too late to
make any recommendatiorrs for this �irittg season, they could move at a more
leisurely pace.
d. Results of Senior Citizen Survey
Ms. Sherek stated the Canmissioners had received the tabulated results
of the Senior Citizen survey that was put in the city neN+sletter as an
insert to all the residents of Fridley. The City received 118 respons�s.
In their workplan they had one item that was ongoing thraughout the temr
of the workplan and that was to look at issues of concerns of the people
of Fridley. If, in reviewing this survey, it brought up any concerns the
Comnissioners wanted to address, they could talk about it at their next
meeting.
ADJOURtJMENT:
MOTION BY MR. VAN DAN, SECONDED BY hIIt. WESTBY, TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. UpON R
YDZCE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON SHEREK DECLARED THE FEBRURRY 5, 1987,
RUlfAN RESOURCSS COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:54 P.M.
Respectfully subMitted,
�"� `-�--
ynn 5a a
Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
HOUSING & REDEVELOPPIENT AUTHORITY �4EETING, FEBRUARY 12, 1987
CALL TO ORDER:
Yice-Chairperson Schnabel called the February 12, 1987, Housing & Redevelop�ent
Authority meeting to order at 7:15 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Menbers Present: Virginia Schnabel, Duane Prairie, Walter Rasmussen, John 1leyer
Menbers Absent: Larry Commers
Otliers Present: Jock Robertson, HRA Executive Director
Nasim Qureshi, City Manager
Samantha Orduno, Idanagement Assistant
Dave Newman, HRA Attorney
Rick Pribyl, Finance Director
Julie Burt, Asst. Finance Officer
John Flora, Public Works Director
Nancy Jorgenson, Councilperson-at-large
Dennis Schneider, Councilperson
Bob Levy, 100 S. 5th St.
Douglas Peterson, 6401 University Ave. N.E.
Tom Ryan
Louis & June Lundgren, 1140 Minnesota Bldg., St. Paul
APPROVAL OF JANUARY 8, 1987, HOUSINf & REDEUELOPFIENT AUTHORITY MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. RASMUSSEN� SECONDED BY MR. PRAZRIE� TO APPROVE THE JAN. 8, 3987�
MINUTES WITH THE FOLLOWZNG CORRECTION: ON PAGE 4� ZTEM {�3� THE DOLLAR
AMOUNT� "$30�000" SHOULD BE CHRNGED TO 5100�ODO�BOTH IN THE NEADZNG AIJD IN THE
MO2ION.
UPON R VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON SCXNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
i. CO�JSIDERATION OF ACQUISITION OF RICE PLAZA OR ENTERING It7T0 A �1ASTER LEASE:
Mr. Robertson stated the HRA has had previous discussions about the acquisition
of the Levy property, but at the December meeting, the HRA made a motion not
to acquire the property. As a counter proposal, at the Dec. meeting, Mr. Levy
and Mr. Diamond suggested the concept of a master lease. Staff was directed
by the HRA to do an analysis of some of the numbers that would be involved in
that concept.
Mr. Robertson stated Staff had done an outline of the cash flow figures based
on inforn�ation about the leases that Mr. Levy had given them. They had out-
lined the worst case alternative• Basically, there were two alternatives
under a master lease arrangement. One was the purchase option for five years
i
HOUSIPJG & REDEVELOPFIENT AUTHORITY MEETI�d6, FEQRUARY 12, 19£37 PAGE 2
in which the HRA wouid make a decision whether or not to buy the property
within the five year time period, but under the option arrangement, the
landlord would retain his perogative of renewing leases when existing
leases are up. The HRA would enter into a master lease whereby the HRA
might make up 50Y of the difference for the period that the landlord was
unable to lease the property. Mr. Robertson illuetrated the alternative in which
there would be an actual purchase agreement whereby once the present leases
were up, the property would not be re-leased and the HRA would then make up
the difference in lost revenue using 1986 as a base year.
t4r. Rasmussen stated he was not against being in the landlord business under
this particular condition, but it seemed to him they had the worst of both
worlds. They were neither landlord nor the HRA. It seemed like a mess.
Weren't they ultimately buying a two-thirds vacant property that was going to
go downhill at a$1�4 million shot because they were not deciding what to do
now?
�4r. Prairie stated they could have the same situation anyway, even if they
purchased the property.
Mr. fdewman stated �1r. Levy has been coming before the HRA since last April on
the question of the HRA acquiring the property. At the December meetinq, the
HRA took final action not to acGuire the property; however, thQy did discuss
the possibility of some kind of master lease arrangement--the thought beinq
that there were some unique characteristics of the situation and the HRA could
provide some compensation to Mr. Levy, if, in fact, he is losing tenants
because the property was in the redevelopment district and was a site that has
been a subject of discussion for redevelopment. The HRA could possibly receive
sor�e benefits from a master lease arrangement. One benefit would be that
instead of the HRA acquiring and operating the property, P1r. Levy would con-
tinue to manage and own and have some economic incentives to try to keep the
pruperty involved and maintain it. What ttr. Robertson had presented was the
worst case scenario, assuning the bottan fell out of the market and the center
was half vacant.
�4r. Rasmussen stated he felt entering into a master lease arrangement v+ould be
setting a precedent.
Pir. t7ewman stated that could be a risk; however, there were actually two things
they should consider: (1) To a lesser extent the HRR took a similar approach
on the corner where Target is located. They did enter into a r�aster lease
arrangement with Art Christenson� Obv�ously, that si±uation was a little
different, but it has been done before. (2) There idas certainly some dispute
as to how many development contracts and developers the City has met with for
this site; but he did not thin� there was arry dispute that the HRA has had an
interest in developing this site for a period of time and it has been one of
the HRR's prior`ities for several years. That might be a unique situation that
cannot be said about other properties in the City ,
Mr. Qureshi stated it has been Staff's recommendation all along not to acquire
the property, and the HRA made the decision not to acquire the property at the
HOl1SIlJG & REDEVELQPHEN7 AUTI�ORITY h1EETING, FEBRUARY 12 19f37 PAGE 3
December meeting. This master lease arrangement concept was a way to respond
to the concerns of the landlord. Within the master lease arrangenent, the
HRA would have the flexibility of when to acquire the property. The price
would be $1 million, and that price would remain the same. The property owner
says his property has been devalued and affected by the HRA's actions, so he
was guaranteed a fixed value if the HRA acquired the property. If there are
vacancies and the HRA wants the property owner to re-lease the property, the
HRA would only bear 50% of the cost. If the HRA feels the developnent is
imminent and doesn't want the property owner to re-lease, the HRA pays 100%
of the cost. After five years, if the HRA has not purchased tiie property,
the HRA will pay the property owner 75% of the cost for one year of whatever
is not leased.
Mr. Qureshi stated that by doing this, the HRA was achieving the following
things: (1) a fixed cost; (2) As the property became vacant and the HRA
made th? choice to keep it vacant, they have no relocation costs and no lease
hold improvement costs.
P1r. Bob Levy stated much of what Mr. Robertson and tir. Qureshi had described,
he agrePd with; however, there were some elements they did not agree with.
He stated he felt that tfte overall principle they are dealing with makes sense.
He recognizes the tiKA has a problem with acquiring the property when they do
not have a ready project. and they understand the difficulties with that. The
other side of that was the owners have a problem in trying to keep the property
leased up, maintained, and dealt with, not knowing what is going Lo happen.
They have been in that state of flux for some years now.
Mr. Bob Levy stated that after the HRA's decision not to acquire the property,
they were trying to focus on whether there was some way of dealinq with both
the HRA's problems and needs as well as the property owner's problems and needs
to avoid an adversarial situation between the two. The thou9ht was because
they understood that the HRA did not want to be in the landlord business, maybe
tliey could continue to be in the landlord business and avoid that burden for
the HRA. Maybe another benefit for the HRA would be to give the HRA some
element of control with respect to lease renewals for entering into new leases
to diminish the HRA's potential exposure�to tenant relocation expenses.
IQr. Levy stated the thing they would be looking for in the process would be:
(1) some certainty as to what would happen at the end of whatever the term of
agreement would be, either there would be an acquisition or the property would
be removed from the redevelopment district. (2) Where should the economic
burden relative to vacancies caused by this cloud of condemnation lie; and in
tHe option scenario, it would be a shared burden. In the acquisition scenario,
it wou1G be the NRA's burden, the idea being that, since, in effect, the property
was being warehoused pending development, some of that economic burden of
the warehousing situation would fall back on the HRA.
Mr. Levy stated they were open to either option. What they were looking at
was some kind of compromise that worked well for the HRA as well as the
property owner. The one option basically was an option situation with the HRA.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPPIENT AUTHORITY P4EETING, FEBRUARY'12, 19$7 PAGE 4
The way they approached this with staff was to say, whoever got to make
decisions about the property (landlord-type decisions), that was ultimately
where the property should end up. If the HRA wanted the authority to decide
whether or not there would be renewal or vacar�cy because the HRA wants to
avoid relocation costs to the tenants, the property owner did not have a
problem with that, but then at the end of the tern of agreement, they want to
know that the HRA was going to buy the property. They do not want the
property caning back to therrr as "Ghost Town U.S.A.".
Mr. Levy stated that on the other hand, if they retain the right to make the
decisions regarding entering into new leases or renewittg old leases, then
they did not need a cwomitment from the HRA to buy the property. IJhat they
needed was a cornmitment from tfie HRA that at the end of the term of agreement,
the HRA was going to buy the property or take the property out of the district.
Then, they can figure out what they want to do without the cloud of condemnation,
Mr. Levy stated what they told t1r. Qureshi and Mr. Robertson was they are
flexible between these options--whatever the Staff or-the_�HRA felt aras more
workable. They will go the option route or the purchase agreement route with
delayed acquisition, the point being that whoever gets to r�ake the decisions
about signing leases was ultimately where the property should end up.
t4r. Levy stated at this time there were two specific items of difference
between the Staff and the landlord: (1) the acquisition price. �1r. Qureshi
had described a fixed price today that would continue through the term of the
agreenent, and that 4ias not acceptable to the property owner. (2) the term
of the agreement. It ��as much easier to deal with a longer term agreement if
they knew for certain the property was going to be acquired at the end of the
term. If they do not kno� what is going to happen, it made it more difficult
to. deal with major decisions because there was always that uncertainty. 4Jhen
they initially made the proposal to the HRA, they had talked about a three
year term rather than a five year term. If they were dealing with a purchase
structure rather than an option structure, they would probably have a little
more flexibility in trying to manage the terms of the agreement. If it was
the option structure, obviously they would like to see a shorter term.
Mr. Levy stated that in general principle or concept, they threw this sort of
proposal out as a way to possibly compromise their differences. And, in
principle or concpet, it made sense to them. Where they have specific disagree-
ments with staff at this point was to expect the property owner to agree to a
fixed price today and run the risk of five years of inflation or changing
market conditions. The second element was they do not want to go out to five
years. They have been dealing with this issue since 1979, and with another
five years down the road, they would have 13 years into the prograr�.
Mr. Levy stated that in discussions at previous meetings, they had asked for
a floor price based on the valuation today. He was sure tfia question the
NRA would then ask was if they were going to have a fixed floor price then,
why shouldn't there be a fixed price going the other direction? The answer
was that it was their feeling that because of the cloud of condemnation and
the inability to keep the property let at market rates and under market term
leases, that has the effect of devaluing the property.
HOIJSING & REDEVELOPPIENT AUTHORITY MEETIN6, FEBRUARY 12, 1987 PAGE 5
Mr. Newman stated one of the things he had proposed was that in lieu of a
floor, since there has to be a mechanisn to determine the value anyway, they
could stipulate that in determining the mechanism, any information regarding
the condemnation would be excluded. He had a problem with a floor plus the
possibility there would be an escalation in price.
Mr. Qureshi stated he would recommend that the HRA not consider a master lease
arrangement (rnless there was a fixed price of �1 million at today's price.
The only reason they were taking the extra burden was because they feel they
are sharing in the property owner's burden, and the property owner was not
taking the total risk. If the property depreciates, the HRR was sharing
in that burden. They also guarantee that after five years, the property owner
can make the decision of fiaving the property purchased or out of the district.
If the property was out of the district, the HRA was guaranteeing they would
give him one full year of rent at 75%. So, he would have a whole ye�r to
re-rent his shopping center if the HRA did not acquire the property.
Ms. Schnabe] asked wN6 }fad the ultimate authority on the rental decisions.
Mr. Qureshi stated it was separate whether they were talking option or purchase.
What he was suggesting was they put in the option agreement that the HRA
decides whether they want the property leased or not. If the HRA decides not
to lease the property, they would bear 100% of the cost. If they have Mr. Levy
do the leasing and he cannot lease it for 2-3 months, the HRA would bear 50%
of the cost.
Ms. Schnabel asked what happened if Mr. Levy found a tenant that wanted to
lease for a length of term beyond what the HRA was interested in. Did the
HRA ha�e any authority over that?
�4r. qureshi stated, no, they can only make a commitment for five years. Then,
either the NRA will buy the property or let the property out of the redevelop-
ment district.
Mr. Rasmussen stated he felt they were premature in discussing this at this
me��ting, because (1) they do not have an agreement from the owner on the base
price and (2) they do not have a mutual agreement on who controls the lease
provisions.
Mr. Qureshi stated they were just bringing this item to the HRA because the
HRA has asked Staff to pursue other avenues of agreement with t1r. Levy. He
realized details would have to be put together and �Formalized. But, it was
his recommendation that there be an absolute fixed purchase price, so Mr. Levy
would know the HRA would never depreciate his property.
Mr. Qureshi stated another item he would like to suggest was that if there was
any acquisition of right-of-way, for example, for example, $100,000 paid for the
right-of-way and that money was paid to the landlord, that artaunt would be
deducted from the price agreed upon for the property.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPh1EtiT AU7HORITY MEETING, FE6RUARY 12, 1987 PAGE 6
Mr. tleyer and Mr. Rasmussen agreed they had no problem with Staff exploring
this further.
Mr. Prairie stated he thought some form of this was a compromise and it
assisted the owner in some of his rental problems.
Mr. Levy stated that if he understood what tM1r. Qureshi was saying, from the
property owner's standpoint, if the HRA wanted the right to make the decisions
on whether or not to lease and decided to exercise that right in a manner not
to lease, the property owner would want that coupled with the decision to go
ahead and acquire the property on or before the expiration of the agreement.
Their position was that whoever gets to decide what to do with the property
was where the ownership should be. That was not an ultimate decision that
had to be made now, but they had told staff they could build into the agree-
ment that when the NRA does decide they do not want the property owner to
lease the property that was when they had to make the decision to purchase.
If the HRA never said that, then they did not need the commitment to purchase.
He did not want the property owner to be in the situation where somebody has
said they cannot use their property for a period of five years, and then at
the end of the five years, the property comes back totally vacant, and they
have to start from scratch.
Mr. Prairie stated he felt the property owner and the HRA were close enough
in agree�ent that it would be beneficial for staff to continue negotiations
with Mr. Levy.
Ms. Schnabel stated she felt there should be further negotiations with Mr. Levy
to see if some agreements can be reached.
MOTION BY MR. RASMUSSEN� SECONDED BY MR. PRAIRIE� TO TABLE DISCUSSION ON SXE
CONSIDERATZON OF A MASTER LEASE ARRANGEMENT UNTZL THE NEXT MEETING AIJD TO
INSTRUCT STAFF TO CONTINUE NEGOTIATIONS WITH MR. LE[7Y ON ENTERZNG ZPJTO A
MASTER LEASE ARRRNGEMENT.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� VICE--CHAZRPERSON SCHNABEL DECLARED THE
MOTZON CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2. COtJSIDERATIOW OF DRAWItJG ON LOU LUNDGREN'S LETTER OF CREDIT:
Mr. Robertson stated t1r. Lundgren did come this evening with a written report
and Mr. Lundgren was prepared to give a verbal report covering the material
he had delivered at the meeting.
Mr. Lundgren stated he apologized for not getting this report ready for the
HRA's agenda, but he did not have all the information at that time, In general,
he was trying to report on the progress since the last HRA meeting on the
financing for the Fridley Plaza project apartment 6uilding. He read the
letter to the HRA.
HOUSING & REDEVELOP�IENT AUTHORITY MEETING, FEBRUARY 12, 198� PAGE 7
Mr. Lundgren stated he had received fran �4eritor Mortgage a list of people
who might be interested in joint venture financing or participation financinc�.
He had contacted all the people on that list. The two he had received strong
expressions from and who have requested preliminary financing packages were
Murray's Savings and Loan in Dallas, Texas, and Nome Federal Savings and
Loan in San Die9o, California. In addition, they have received a strong
expression of interest from Golden Real Estate. These people, if they said
yes, would not be providing the financing, they were mortgage brokers.
Mr. Lundgren stated �4r. Golden's letter was attached to his letter. �4r. Golden
had stated in his letter that he had two firms interested in the construction
and permanent finahcing and had told �1r. Lundgren he was very interested
and would get back to Mr. Lundgren within a week to ten days. Mr. Doug Mayo
of the Rothchild Financial Co. was preparing a package to be sent to a company
in Maryland. Mr. Mayo has helped him with financing in the past, and they
haA good experiences between then.
�4r. Lundgren stated they expect the preliminary responses to their packages
before the end of February.
Mr. Lundgren stated he had received from Mr. Lee Maxficld, the person he felt
was the rnost competent in the field, a price and timeline for a feasibility
study. lie had had several feasibility studies done before, but he did not
actually have them in hand. He stated he had decided not to commit $5,000
for the study if, in just two days, the HRA decided to draw on his letter of
credit. He had told Mr. Maxfield he would call him the mornin� after the HRA
meeting and would authorize the study if the fIRA did not call on the letter
of credit at this meeting.
Mr. Lundgren stated he wanted to explain that joint venture finan�in� meant
he would have a partner and the partner would be a financial instTtution
that was involved. They lend great financial credibility to the project, put
up all the money, and then get perhaps 50% ownership iri the project:
Mr. Lundgren stated participation financing meant the company would give all
tlie money that was required for the project so they did not have to seek
additional equity by syndication, saving lots of legal and other fees. With
all five of the interested parties, they were talking about either partici-
pation financin9 or joint venture financing.
Mr. lundgren stated lie felt he was now at the point where he was going to be
getting some preliminary and some pretty strong indications yet this month.
In his letter, he had suggested that when he received any responses from
these people, he would report to staff on the indication whether it was yes
or no. Ne wanted to assure the HRA that they were still talking about the
same building, the same quality, etc., that has been discussed fra� the
beginning.
Mr. Rasmussen asked if the HRA had any obligation to i9r. Lundgren.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPP1ENT AUTHORITY 11EE7ING, FEBRUARY 12 1987 PAGE 8
Mr. Newman stated that at previous meetings, �1r. Lundgren has made it very
clear that even though the HRA has so far declined to call on his letter
of credit that it should not be construed or implied that there was any commitment
on the part of the HRA. It was not to be construed or implied at this meetin�
that if the HRA elects not to call on Mr, Lundgren's letter of credit that
the letter of credit would be reduced by the amount of $5,000 for the feasi-
bility study or that the action of the NRA would create any obligation to
Mr. Lundgren.
Mr. Lundgren stated he fully understood that. He stated this feasibility study
was necessary for him, the HRA, the canmunity, and the project.
Mr. Meyer stated it seemed to him they had the best of all worlds here. They
have Mr. Lundgren working to develop the property in the way the HRA would
like to see it developed, and it was not really costing them any money to
wait. It seemed to him it was to the HRA's advantage to not exercise their
right to call on Mr, Lundgren's letter of credit and leave the status as it was.
Mr. Newman stated it has been Staff's recommendation since December to draw
on the letter of credit. He wanted to emphasize that at the last 2-3 meetings,
Mr. Lundgren has repeatedly indicated he would have information for the next
meeting. At each meeting, there has been a reason for not havin� that
information, and it was a little frustrating at the.staff level to not see
any progress.
Ms. Schnabel stated the HRA had another rr�eting in four weeks, and she did
not see where F1r. Lundgren was going to have an answer within four weeks unless
the answer was "no". If the answer was "yes" or "maybe" or "we would like to
tal:e another look", it was nd going to happen in four weeks because of the
feasibility study that has to be done.
Mr. Robertson stated it should be noted again for the record that there was
not an indefinite time the HRA has the aption to draw on the letter of credit.
The HRA must make a final decision at the t9ay meer,ing, if it is not done before.
Mr. Lundgren stated he understood that also, He understood that if the HRA
granted his request not to draw on the letter of credit that they were only
doing it for this particular meeting. At the March meeting, if it co�es up
again, they might vote negatively at that time.
Mr. Newman stated that procedurally the matter was tabled at a previous
meeting so if there was no intention by the HRA to call on the letter of
credit, no action was needed at this time.
Ms. Schnabel stated it seemed to again be the concensus of the HRA members to
not call on P�r. Lundgren's letter of credit and that the item remain on the
table.
Mr. Lundgren statecl that when the feasihility stu�y was available, the HRA
would receive it no matter what happens.
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HOUSIFJG & REDEVELOP�IENT AUTHORITY MEETI�JG, FEQRUARY 12, 1987 PAGE 9
3. LETTER CONCERNING TOti RYAfJ PROPERTY AND RECOMt4ENDATIOFd FRON UIRGIL HERRICK:
Mr. Newman stated the HRA members had received at the meeting a copy of a
memo from Jim Robinson regarding relocation expenses, and a letter from
Virgil Herrick dated Jan. 12, 1987. He stated both Tom fZyan and his legal
counsel, Oouglas Peterson, were at the meeting. He would ask �4r. Peterson
to give some background on why this request was being made and then proceed
from there.
Mr. Douglas Peterson stated he was an attorney representing Tom Ryan, who
owned Dr. Ryan's Automotive Clinic across the street. Back in 19II3, as part
of the redevelopment of the Center City area, Mr. Ryan's property on which
he was doing business was�condemned and, as part of the condemnation, he
entered into an agreement with the HRA and the City to move his business from
that property to the vacant Standard Station across the street. As part of
that agreement, t1r. Ryan was allowed to remain at that location. He believed
the original lease was for two years and then on a month-to-month hasis after
that. The rent was currently $650/month.
t�Yr. Peterson stated at this time Mr. Ryan was intending to sell his husiness.
They have a purchase agreement with t1r. 6eorge Frey, a mechanic, who intends
to take over t1r. Ryan's business at this location. But the purchase agreement
was contingent upon a two year lease he would be entering into with the HRA.
That was the reason they were before the HRA at this meeting to talk to the
HRA about attempting to get an accoeimodation with Mr. Frey to get the lease.
t•1r. Frey understood that the HRA was interested in developing thc property and
the property around the parcel. F1r. Frey was concerned about going into the
business unless he had some sort of guarantee that he was not going to be
removed from the property immediately. That was the reason for the two year
lease. They would like a lease with a term of two years with a 90-day
termination provision starting at the end of the two years at the same rental
of $650/month, with a provision in the lease that the new lessee would not be
entitled to any relocation expenses in the event the HRA wanted to develop
the property at the end of the two years. Idr. Frey understood there was no
r�ay he would get a lease unless he waived the right to relocatior..
� hir. fJewman stated Staff's.recorimendation was against a two year lease as
described by Mr. Peterson. That was the basis of the discussion �4r. Herrick
had with 14r. Ryan. One thing pointed out in Mr. Herrick's letter was tliat
at any point during the two year period, the lease could be terminated on a
90-day notice if the HRA required the property for the purpose of development.
That was substantially different from what Mr. Peterson was proposin�. He
thought that from a legal standpoint with the type of provisions outlined in
Mr. Herrick's letter and based on the memo received from �1r. Robinson indi-
cating there would not, in fact, be any claim for relocation, they fee; more
comfortable with what Mr. Herrick has proposed. They certainly need to have
the flexibility. Mr.Lundgren has indicated some possibility of obtainina
funding for his project so within a two year period, a number of things could
happen,
HOUSIN6 & REDEVELOPHENT AUTHORITY �1EETING, FEBRUARY 12, 1987 PAGE 10
Mr. Qureshi stated he was sure the HRA realized they had a7ready paid �1r. Ryan
acquisition and relocation costs and the renting of the Standard Station
building was a mutually agreeable arrangement which now stands on a month-
to-month basis. If either party wants t1r. Ryan to move out, all they have to
do is give a 30-day notice and they have no further obligation to each other.
He would have no problem with the HRA providing a two year lease with a 90-
day notice as long as there was a provision that when the HRA entered into an
agreement with a development that required the removal of this building, the
HR11 could give the 90-day notice at that time. On the north side of
Nlississippi, they rernoved a gas station, not because they wanted to develop
anything on the site, but because it provided a better exposure to Holly
Shopping Center. That could also happen on this side of Mississippi St.
where they might want to remove the structure just for exposure to a develop-
ment behind it. In that situation, also, the HRA should have the right to do
that.
Mr. Newman stated he had indicated to Mr. Peterson that the only way he could
recommend approval of the terms of the lease was if the removal of the buildinq
for deveTopment purposes was defined in a broad enough sense so it would cover
the situation Mr. Qureshi had described.
Mr. Peterson stated it was true that when Mr. Ryan's property was condemned
;,hat P1r. Ryan was paid everything required by the City and the HRA, IQr. Ryan
did have a business and still has a business that to him was worth money.
He has been in business in the City of Fridley for over 26 years. At the time
he moved across the street, possibly at that time he should have made the
decision to go out of the redevelopment district, but he was concerned that
it would mean losing business. At this time, they really might not have any-
thing to sell unless they can get assurances that the person who would like
to purchase the business has some time to set up his business and keep the
business going so the customers get to know him and then,hopefully, will follow
him when he does have to move.
Mr. Peterson stated as far as the time period, it was great to have the flexi-
bility, but he did not think that anything was ooing to be happen-
ing on that property within the two year period or at least within a one year
period. With the tax 7aw change at the end of December, very few
developers really kno�v what they are doing with regard to construction,
financing, etc. This property has been in the process of being attenpted to
be developed for a number of years. It did not sound like Mr, Lundqren had
anything extremely nailed down, so it did not look like anything would really
get going yet this year. If, by the end of the year, a developer comes in,
they were still looking at another 7-9 months before they can really get into
the ground and be in a position to have anything anyone could look at
which would mean tearing down this building.
Ms. Schnabel stated that at this time, the HRA has the ability to give Mr. Ryan
a 30-day notice to vacate. It was her feeling to go along with the suggestion
made by Mr. Herrick with a two year maximum lease with a 90-day notice to
vacate and the waiver of relocation costs.
HOUSIN6 & REDEVELOPT1EPJT `Pc1.�17{6KI'C�h�MEfT�Nfi, FEBRUARY 12, 1987 PAGE 11
Mr. Prairie stated he would agree with that. He thought that was about as
generous as they could be.
Mr. Rasmussen stated he was reluctant to go into a two year lease. The HRA
already owns the property, and why should they even get involved in another
lease, regardless of the terms?
Ms. Schnabel stated tlie HRA has already paid Nr. Ryan for relocation costs
once, and they tried to help him along in getting his business established
across the street. She thouJt the HRA had treated him quite fairly in that
situation,but she did not know how strong their obligation was. She did not
want to hurt hin from tlie.standpoint of his business, but what were the HRA's
obligations?
Mr. Qureshi stated the HRA had no legal o6ligations. Their only concern was they
want to give some consideration to Mr. Ryan's request. He felt the HRA should
have the absolute right to acquire the vacation of the property for the tearing
down of the building for a� deve7opment needs,
Mr. Qureshi asked P1r. Peterson what kind of flaxibility he could give to the
HRA and still preserve the purchase a�reement.
Mr. Peterson stated the purchaser was lookina for some assurances that he can
go into the business and stay longer than 90 days. He thought the furthest
they could go in the lease was to have a 2 year lease t•lith a one year 9uarantee
and possibly after that a vacation for any purpose. He did not think the HRA
was going to require a vacation unless they had a specific use for the property.
Mr. Prairie stated he felt the HRA could agree to a two year lease with a 90-
day vacation notice as proposed by Hr. Herrick.
t1r. Ryan stated when you sell a business, you sell the land, the buildin�, the
equipment, and the nane. That was not what happened in his case. He got paid
for the land and the building and relocation, but he was now sitting with
$40,000 worth of equipment and a name. He has been looking for a buyer for two
years and has finally found one. Ile will not have tliat buyer unless he has
soMe kind of lease. Otherwise, he r�ill be sitting in limbo with $40,000 worth
of equipraent and a name that was no good after 26 years of business unless he
has a buyer.
�ds. Schnabel stated she sensed from the discussion that the H WI was reluctant
to tie that property up any more than was reasonable, at least beyond what they
have been doing for Mr. Ryan, and especially in view of the fact they do have
a developer who appears to be hopeful in getting the development going. As
proposed by Mr. Herrick, the t�oo years was fine, but they had to remain flexible
on the property so that they have an ortion to give notire to
vacate if there is need for the property.
Mr. Meyer stated he thought the two year iease was alright with a 90-day
notice situation. Dut, he also agreed with what �1r. Rasmussen was saying about
why should they even put themselves in a hole they don't have to be in?
HOUSIiiG n REDEVELOPHENT AUTHORITY �4EETING, FEBRUARY 12 1987 PAG[ 12
Mr. Rasmussen stated that even though it sounded rather cruel, he did not
think the HRA should be involved in the sale of Mr. Ryan's business at all.
Mr. Ne��rnan stated he believed Mr. Ryan wanted to close on the sale of his
business at the end of February, and they certainly want to accorimodate
t1r. Ryan. They would have the new oomer enter directly into a new lease with
the HRA and in that lease, they would clearly spell out the limitations--
that he �vas waiving the right to relocation, and that it would be a two year
lease with a 90-day notice at the discretion of the HRA for any developr�ent
reason.
P1r. Meyer stated he �vould suggest 180 days notice instead of 90 days, because
he could not foresee that even though they got a buyer or some developer
immediately, it would still be six months before they would need that property.
Mr. Ne4rtnan stated he would speak against that because of their experience with
Mr. Lundgren. When they draft development contracts, it was the City's desire
for the development to move as quickly as possible, In the case of t�lr. Lundgren,
the way the contract was drafted, the NRA had approximately 120 days from the
tirne 14r. Lundgren provided evidence of financing to fully acquire the property.
The HRA was really not in a position where they were going to want to go ahead
and have someone vacate that property until they know the development was ready
to go in. They could be in the situation where they have been presented with
tlie evidence of financing, the commitment for financing was there, and the
developer was ready to go, but they then had to wait six months to
building. He stated that could really impede �!evelopment.
�4r. hleyer stated he could understand what �1r. Newman was saying.
Mr. Peterson stated he would like to bring back to the buyer something that
said there was a guarantee. 4Jould the HRA consider a six month hiatus from
notice at the front end of the lease? It was something he could brinc� bacl; to
the buyer as kind of a guarantee.
Mr.Qureshi stated he would have no problem with tfiat. lie had no problem even
giving six months up front and then 90 days notice after that.
Mr. Qureshi stated he wanted to make sure the buyer was aware that the City
was taking part of the right-of-way, about 20 ft., for the potential expansion
of Mississippi St. He did not think it would affect the business at all.
Mr. FJewman stated he felt very confident that even if a developer would cor�e
in the next day with a specific proposal, the fact that the HRA would not be
able to deliver the property until September 1 would not be an impediment to
the new developeient.
Ms. Schnabel stated that if Mr. Ryan did not sell the business•for some reason
to this particular buyer at the end of this month, was this kind of agreement
going to be effective for a period of time so that it could be for another
buyer?
HOUSING & REDEVELOPt�tENT AU71i0RITY t1EETING, FEBRUARY 12 1987 PAGE 13
Mr. Newman stated this agreement would be specificalty limited to this offer
of purchase. If this purchase fell through, it would revert back to the
original 30 day notice on a month-to-month basis with P1r. Ryan.
Ms. Schnabel stated she wanted �4r. Ryan to understand that this agreement was
only for this buyer; and if this purchase did not go through and he had another
buyer at another time, the developmental stages for this property at that
tir�e roight be totally different.
Mr. Qureshi stated he hoped this offer was only limited to the end of the month.
t4r. Rasmussen stated because the HRA had an unfortunate experience in a previous
lease, he would hope the IiRA could examine the financial ability of the nevr
buyer to make the rental payments on the property.
Mr.P�ewnan stated they could request that t1r. Peterson get a financial statement
of the buyer.
MOTION BY MR. PRAIRZE� SECONDED BY MR. RASMUSSEN� TO DIRECT TXE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR TO EXECUTE TXE LEASE WITH THE NEW BUYER OF THE DR. RYAN AUTOMOTIVE
CLINIC SUBJECT TO LEGAL STAFF REVIEW AND APPROVAL AND SUBJECT TO TNE FOLLOF77N6
STIPULRTIONS:
I. THE LEASE TO BE A TWO-YEAR LEASE WI2H A 90-DAY POTICE AT THE
DISCRETION OF TXE HRA FOR ANY DEVEIAPMENT PURPOSE.
2. TXERE WOULD BE NO RELOCATION EXPENSES TO THE BUYER.
3. THE 90-DAY NOTICE WOULD NOT BECOME EFFECTIVE PRIOR TO THE
EXPIRRTION OF THE FIRST SZX MONTHS OF THE LERSE.
9. THIS NEW LEASE TO BE EXECUTED ON OR BEFORE MARCX 1� 19B7.
5. THE PROSPECTIVE TENANT TO PROVIDE A FINANCIRL STATEMENT OF
HZS CURRENT FINANCIAL CONDITION AND GRANT AUSHORIZATZOtI FOR
A CREDZT CNECK.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� VZCE-CHAIRPERSON SCHNABEL DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNAl77MOUSLY.
4. UPDATE O�J LAKE POINTE CORPORATE CENTER DEVELOPPIE�JT PROJECT:
Mr. Qureshi stated that last August, the HRA approved amendments to the Agree-
ment for the Lake Pointe Corporate Center development. The'.HRA awarded the
contracts which corrw�itted the HRA and the City Council to roughly a cost of
�2.2 million for work on the site. Also, it was required that the plat be
approved and filed. The plat was approved by the City Council in August, but
it has never been filed. ��r. Newman had come before the HRA indicating to the
HRA the problems and difficulties in getting that plat filed. P4r. Weir liad
hired Sunde Engineering to do the plat. The plat was prepared. He had also
tried to file the Metes and Qounds description for Parcel C, and if he had
been successful, the HRA would have gotten $1 million. Mr.Weir did try to
file the plat, but could not because of some legal'description problems.
kQUSING & REDEUELOPMEN7 AUTHORITY MEETING, FEBRUARY 12, 1987 PAGE 14
Mr, Qureshi stated in about October, there were some further meetings with
Mr. Weir and his staff, and P4r. Weir indicated he wanted the right-of-way
along liighway 65 vacated. The City did go ahead and start the process and now
have legally vacated the property which was essentially where the road exits,
except the portion needed for the Highway 65 intersection improvements.
Mr. Qureshi stated when the plat was approved in August, there was a statement
made by Eric Nesset that the alignnent of this road might have to be adjusted.
After that when the intersection plans for Highway 65 and tJest t400re Lake
Drive were finalized, it was indicated the new ali9nment would be better for
traffic purposes. The alignment that would meet t1r. Weir's desires required
the acquisition of a second house. It was Mr. tJeir's desire also that the fiRA
pay for the-acquisition of that house. Even though the HRA had agreed they
had gone farther than they should have with Mr. Weir and should not give any
more assistance, they reluctantly agreed with the City Council that if payinq
for the acquisition of this house would solve the problems with Mr. Weir, they
should do it. P4r, Newman put that information in a letter and sent it to
P1r. Wei r.
��Ir. Qureshi stated he had told �4r. tJeir they should sit down and try to work out
tiie problem areas. 14r. Weir had said that because of the market changes,
he could not live with some of the restrictions imposed 6y the HRA.
Mr. Qureshi stated he had told tdr. Weir he should approach the HRA and tfie
City Council and request an adjustment 'to the Agreement. On January 22, Mr. Weir
sent him a letter giving a notice of default on the part of t.hP HRA.
Mr. Newman has responded saying the City and the HRA deny the alleged items of
default.
Mr. Qureshi stated there were basically three scenarios the NRA could pursue.
Of course, each of these three choices had disadvantages and advantages.
1. There was an Agreement, and the developer should live by that
Agreement. If the problems cannot be resolved, they ti�iill have
to go the legal route, i.e., litigation.
2. The NRA could attempt to renegotiate and adjust the Agreement.
3. If no agreement could be made between the two parties, the HRA
could pay back the developer's costs of the land and seek
another developer.
Mr. Rasmussen expressed concern about how these things had been documented.
Mr. Newman stated most of the negotiations since last August have been
documented in writing. Mr. Robertson and he have taken notes of the various
discussions. The objections by the developer prior to August 1986 were
negated by the new Agreement. Since that Agreement was entered into,
Mr. Qureshi has only had one meeti�i9 with Mr. Weir that he was aware of,
and he, t9r, Newman, was present_at that meeting. Ne did not be7ieve
Mr. Robertson had had any meetings with Mr, tJeir since that time.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPPtENT AUTHORITY 17EETItJG, FEBRUARY 12 1987 PAGE 15
Mr. Newman stated he has had very few discussions with Mr. Weir's attorneys.
Most of the conversations back and forth have been in writing, so they do
have extensive communication. He has made a further request to Staff to go
back in time and see what other documents there are. Staff will be meeting
the next day to review these dacuments. If there was no problem with the
HRA reviewing these documents, he would forward them on to the HRA.
Mr. Quresfii stated the City Council has heen briefed also on the background
of this situation, and it was the Council's feeling that the HRA has bee�
performing in good faith with the Lake Pointe development. The HRh has basi-
cally purchased the property, they promised and purchased the George Johnson
property, they iiad proceeded with the contracts and tiie t:ork ;:as bcing dor�e,
tfie City Council had approved the plat, there was a questioii on alignment
and the adjustment was made. Financially, the HRA was still in a good position,
because tiiey cOntroi the prnqerty, and they still have $5.6 million of Mr.
Weir's money for which they gave a Revenue Note.
Mr. Newman stated that in talking to the developer's attorneys, it was obvious
they were looking for more than just minor modifications in the development
contract. They were looking for renenotiating the basic principles of the
Agreement. He was,fairly confident a lawsuit would be filed before the end of Feb.
Unless the HRA and City Staff directed him to commence major renegotiations
of the Agreement, their only alternative at this time was to defend the lawsuit.
He has talked to Staff, Larry Canmers, Jim Casserly and the City Council ahout
the fact that they are going to need legal assistance in representing the fiRA.
At this time, his recommendation would be to retain the Popham- Naik law firm.
There were a number of reasons why they were recommending this law firm. It
was a large firm of about 70-80 attorneys so it had the size and the resources
to handle this size of litigation. Herrick & Newman has associated with
Popham-Haik in the past.
Mr. Newman stated he and �4r. Herrick will be meeting with Ray Haik and Tom Qerg
of the Popham Haik law firm; and if they feel comfortable with proceedin�
with this firm, they will irrrnediately give Mr. Haik and Mr. Berg the information
so the.y can make an assessment of what action should be taken. If needed, they
will request a special HRA meeting.
Mr. Qureshi stated again that the tiRA has committed to the project $2.2 million
for improvements. Contracts have been signed by the City and�contractors
and it was Staff's recommendation to continue to proceed to improve the
property so it will look attractive, whether for this development or another
future development. There was another $1,6 million of commitment for the Highway 65
and 4Jest Moore Lake Dr. intersection ir�provement which the HRA and City Council
have not actually entered into an construction contraCt yet.
Ms. Schrabel ztated if the HRA members are served with a suit from anyone
representing the developer, aerhaas the HRA should have tone type of ineetiree�
before the March meeting so they can be apprised of the s'ituation and be
brought up to data by staff and legal counsel.
Mr. Newman stated they would be glad to do that.
HOUSIP�G & REDEVELOP�1ENT AUTHORITY t1EETING, FE[3RUARY l2 1987 PAGE 16
F1r. Rasmussen eskEd if the HRA should be doing any kind of PR regarding this
impending lawsuit to protect their interests.
Mr. Newman stated the subject was raised at the last City Council meeting
about whether the City and the HRA should go on the offense and issue their
own press release.
(Mr. Prairie left the meeting at 10:15 p.m,)
Ms. Schnabel stated if people are concerned about what is going on with that
property and rumours are flying around, maybe there was a need for some type
of press release and maybe Staff should start preparing for an article.
Mr. Newman stated he would caution the HRA members that if they do get served
with any legal aapers that they note the date and the time and forward the
papers to him immediately, If any of the HRA members feel the need for
any further discussion, he/she should let �1r. Robertson know and they will
schedule a meeting.
Ms. Schnabel stated she would like to know whenever any of the HRA memhers
was served with papers, because she felt that was somethin9 the other members
should be aware of right away.
5. COIJ_SIDERATION OF A RESOLUTIaty (1) REQUESTI�JG THAT THE FRIDI.EY CITY COUNCIL
I�r. Robertson stated this project was originally started to improve the easterly
entrance to the Lake Pointe project. As the HRA remembered, it was the project
that was required to, not only improve the entrance visually and functionally,
but was also required by the Indirect Source Air quality Permit to expedite
the traffic flow to reduce the air pollution.
Mr. Robertson stated the basic cost was not to exceed 31,661,784.40; however,
there were some additional costs the HRA might wish to consider in the future
on decorative lighting. He would dlso eall the HRA's attention to the memo given
to the HRA members regarding an informational meeting that was held the pre-
vious evening at City Hall with the people who own homes along Old Central 11ve.
beyond the intersection• .
Mr. Robertson stated �4r. Flora was at the meeting to give some technical
background.
Mr. Flora stated that since the public hearing with the residents along Old
Central, there o�as so7e question about whether this was actually an acceptahle
solution to the intersection at this time, So, they are working on some
alternative solutions to satisfy some of the concerns of the neighborhood, but
they were still looking at somewhere around $1.7 million for this intersection
im;srovement which was desianed to hancile the Lake Pointe Development, Highway
b5, and the future traffic upstream and downstream from the intersection.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY �1EETItdG, FEBRUARY 12, 1987 PAGE 17
Nr. Flora stated that if the project goes, Staff has some suggestions. As
the HRA knew, they were cloing a University Ave. Corridor study & in that study, they
were lookiny at the "Fridley look", certain light fixtures, plantings, motif,
etc. If this was to be tne Fridley look, the question was should the Fridley
look be continued to this location also. If they do that, they should look
at incorpurating those types of li9hts, plantings, etc., into the project.
So, depending on the options, they were looking at a range of $4,000 to
$155,000 for the Fridley street lighting look.
Mr. Flora stated another item, with the Indirect Source Permit, was the Rice
Creek Road diversion. Part of that plan was that too many cars were coning
down Old Central to the Hi_ghway 65/Old Central intersection, so the plan was
to divert the traffic from Old Central to Highway 65 through Rice Creek Road
by the Shorewood Shopping Center. That was another project that was
authorized by the HRA for preliminary plans to be prepared. At the informational
meeting with the neighborhood, the neighbors felt this was probably the first
priority because by moving the traffic off Old Central at the Old Central/ Rice
Creek Road �ntersection, some of the concerns could be resolved more satis-
factorily. So, Staff might be coming to the HRA to do this. Right now in
round numbers, that.improvement would be $400,OOD. Staff was also looking
at whether they should also continue the Fridley look in this location if they do
it at the Highway 65JOld Central location. 7hese were things the HRA would have to
decide.
Mr. Flora stated the item before the HRA at this meeting was the intersection,
Per the agreement with t4r. Weir.and the HRA and the City was supposed to work to
get this intersection done this construction season. The City was moving
forward, but they needed some approval from the HRA.
Councilperson Schneider stated he did not know if the City Council would hold
a public hearing or not, but he would be more comfortable if this resolution
came to the City Gouncil without the HRA specifically requesting the City
Council not to hold a public hearing.
Mr. Qureshi stated there was no legal requirement to hold a public hearing,
but certainly the HRA or the City Council could hold a public hearing if they
wished. The HRA could delete that wording from the resolution.
Mr. Flora stated he would also like sone kind of concensus from the HRA so
they can tell the consultant he can put the lighting into the plan so they
can be identified and the costs provided rather than doing it later. 7his
was certainly going to be another one of the focal points of the City.
Ms. Schnabel stated her problem was that as far as she knew the HRA had not
made any decision yet on the lighting along University Ave.
t4r. Robertson stated the HRA did approve the lighting at the intersections,
but not along the Corridor. After Staff received thP recommendations frnm
the Barton-Aschmann firm, staff did recommend a style of lighting standards.
It was
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his understanding that when the HRA approved the Staff report in December,
they approved that style of lighting.standards for fhe intersection. The
k{RA then hired Mr. Ellers, a former NSP lighting enginee"r, �o specify the
lighting details, not only for the intersections, but for the entire corridor
to make sure all the light9ng fit so they wouldn't have to redo the intersections
to match the corridor at some later time. They now have a design and layout
for the entire University Ave, corridor for the approved lighting style plus
preliminary recommendations for the commercial frontage road lighting, They
have not yet brought this to the HRA.
Mr. Robertson stated they were now beginning preliminary engineering designs
for Old Central and Highway 65/Lake Pointe Drive entrance. Did
the HRA wish to make a commitment at this time to adopt those styles of lighting
standarcJs for this intersection also?
MOTZON BY fdR. RASMUSSEN� SECONDED BY MR. MEYER� TO ADOPT RESOLUTSON N0.
NRA �2 —19B7� DELETING THE LANG[IAGE� "AND WAIVE THE PUBLIC XEARING RELATING
THERETO".
UPON R VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� VICE—CHAIRPERSON SCNNABEL DECLARED THE
MOTZON CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
The HRp members agreed Staff could proceed to incorporate the lighting design
into the plan all the way to Rice Creek Road, but that the HRA would like to
see all the plans before it is approved.
CLAIMS (1565-1581
MOTIDN BY MR. RASMUSSEN� SECONDED BY MR. MF.YER, TO APPROVE THE CHECK
REGISTER AS PRESENTED.
UPON A VOZCE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE� VICE—CHAIRPERSON SCHNABEL DECLARED THE
MOTZON CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
7. OTHER 6USItJESS:
Update on Mississippi St. Intersection
�4r. Qureshi stated the intersection plans have been prepared. The
County originally had plans to do the East River Road/Rice Creek Gridge,
but they ran into some technical difficulties. Since the Mississippi Street
plans are ready, the County wishes to proceed on it this year if
possible. This plan was presented to the City Council and the members
of the City Council had some concerns. They recognized the improvements
would lielp move the traffic through the intersection, but their concern
was to make sure the neighborhood behi�d Holly Center still had access
to this road and be able to use it safely. The City Council requested
the County to look at the possibilities of providing some control of
the intersection in this location. The City received a letter from the
County stating that when this development comes and they can 9dentify a
cross intersection either at 2nd Street or at the westerly entrance to the
Holly Shopping Ce�ter, they will assist in providing a signal at that
�o�ation.` With that commitment, he felt the City Council would be amiable
to the County proceeding with the project.
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Mr. Qureshi stated this was for the HRA's information. It still needed
City Council approval, but the HRA was committed for a portion of the
cost the City will have to pay.
ADJOURNh1ENT:
MOTZON BY hIIt. RASMUSSEN� SECONDED BY fiR. MEYER� TO ADJOURIJ THE MEETING. UPON A
VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE, VZCE-CHAIRPERSON SCHNABEL DECLARED THE FEB. 12� 1987,
HOUSING 6 REDrVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETZNG RDJOURNED RT 12:Z0 P.M.
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
ENERGY COMNISSION MEETING
FEBRUARY 24, 1987
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Saba called the February 24, 1987, Energy Commission meeting to
order at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Dean Saba, Bruce Bondow, Glen Douglas, Bradley Sielaff
Members Absent: lone
Others Present: Larry Ehlers, Guest
Myra Gibson, Planning Assistant
APPROVAL OF DECEMBER 2, 1986, AND DECEMBER 29, 1986, ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Douglas, seconded by Mr. Bondow, to approve the December 2, 1986,
and December 29, 1986, Energy Commission minutes as written.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SABA DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
1. UPDATE ON DEED GRANT
Ms. Gibson reported that the Community Energy Council Grant Application
had been approved with the stipulation that the City get cash and in-kind
documentation, including documentation for the sental rehabilitation loans
that are sponsored by e bank. A copy
of the rental rehab loan program summary was passed around for members to
review. These are fixed rate loans at 7.45% for energy related improve-
ments and general rehabilitation. Funds in the amount of $3 million have
been set aside at 5% which is for energy loans only.
Mr. Saba asked if there weFe restrictions that applied.
Ms. Gibson indicated the major restriction is that the structure cannot
be owned by a corporation gr partnership. It must be owned by an individual.
P�. Gibson said she was attending a seminar on February 25th, and as pazt
of the agenda, there aas Z�FA Financing scheduled.
Ms. Gibson contacted the Marquette Bank, which the City had used before
to sponsor loans, but the bank chose not to snonsor�the rental rehab loans. She
also contacted the Fridley State Bank. Mr. Gargaro of the Fridley State
Bank did not think there would be a problem in sponsoring the loan. He
will meet with the bank's board on Thursday and will let the City know
of their decision. A koan sponsor needs to be identified before the first
$12,000 of DEED funding can be received by the City.
ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING. FEBRUARY 24, 1987
PAGE 2
Ms. Gibson referred to the memo of December 3, 1986, enclosed with the
agenda, which is an update on available grants for which the City could
apply.
Mr. Saba asked if these grants had a time limit.
Ms. Gibson stated that there will be a time limit established when the
revised rules are approved.
Mr. Sielaff asked if the rules were the same as in previous grants.
Ms. Gibson stated that the rules would be basically the same. One
restriction that may be removed is the requirement to have members of the
committee represent different segments of society such as labor, senior
citizen, small business, etc. There are other amendments to the rules,
and the revised rules will be coming.
Mr. Saba asked if other cities also protested the rules.
Ms. Gibson indicated there was a concensus among those in the metro area
that the rutes they disliked were generally the same and the rules they
liked were basically the same.
Mr. Douglas asked how the amount of $45,000 was determined.
hg. Gibson indicated that the grant awarded was for $15.000 and there is
another $30,000 grant available. In addition, another $15,000 grant is
available so there is actually a potential of $60,000 in grants.
2. DISCUSSION OF ENERGY CODE COMPLIANCE - RENTAL PROPERTY
Ms. Gibson stated she would like to discuss the energy code compliance to
get an idea of what this will entail. After talking with Mr. Gargaro at
the Fridley State Bank, Ms. Gibson checked into eligible rental property
and found over 20 that the City knows do not meet code. A housing
inspection with Section 8 could be done and Ms. Gibson could go along
with the inspector.
My. Saba felt that those buildings not in compliance are those buildings
that are generally run down, not maintained or well taken care of.
Ms. Gibson has set a meeting to talk with Minneapolis staff about their
program. The Minneapolis staff inentioned that the code compliance is a
lot of work, and they have gone to court in a number of cases. Ms. Gibson
was not sure Ee v�hat estent the Councii would want her to enforce the code.
A number of landlords that don't cooperate are out-of-town owners.
Mr. Sielaff felt that a precedent must be set so that others comply more
easily. We will be challenged at some point and this issue must be faced.
Ms. Gibson stated she did not want to shy away from the possibility but
perhaps not start the compliance program with those landlords. Perhaps
the loan paperwork.could be started with someone who would be a bit more
cooperative so staff has experience with the loan application process.
Ms. Gibson did not know how many would wish to take out loans.
ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 24, 1987 PAGE 3
Mr. Douglas asked if Ms. Gibson knew who the property owners were.
Ms. Gibson stated that �he obtained a list from the fire department.
She also noted that in some cases the owners change periodically.
�1r. Sielaff asl:ed if there kas a reluct�uce b}- City staff to go aftcr
someone.
Ms. Gibson thought the problem was not knowing the boundaries.
Mr. Bondow indicated that ormers will want to know the rate of return on
their investment.
Mr. Ehlers asked if, when selling property, there was a disclosure law
that would stop a person from selling their property without an inspection.
Mr. Saba indicated Chat there was a law that required an audit and that
the results had to be disclosed. However, that is now optional, and the
buyer is required to pay for the audit.
Ms. Gibson indicated she would proceed according to the outline a:•
included in the objectives of the grant.
Mr. Saba asked if, once this is in place, the commission would be in a
better position to pass the Code.
Ms. Gibson felt the Code could go back to the City Council for approval
as soon as funding is received from DEED.
Ms. Gibson indicated she was thinking about how the City could approach
landlords. She felt that workshops would be beneficial. The problem is
getting landlords to the workshops. She indicated that Mark Leutgeb
of SRC agreed to invite landlords to workshops at their expense. He has
done workshops in other cities. The response has varied in different
areas depending on the clientele and the type of buildings. The present-
ation is about 1-1� hours in length and is just for building owners.
Included in these workshops is information about return on investment, etc.
Mr. Saba asked that members be informed of when such a workshop would be
held so that members could attend.
Ms. Gibson indicated that Mr. Leutg�b also holds workshops for tenants
which includes information on huw to work with landlords to make improvements.
3. DISCL'SSIOr OF ENERGY EDUCATION/AWARENESS PROMOTION
Ms. Gibson indicated that she would like to do publicity for energy and
asked members for recommendations on what they would like to see included
and where to publish, such as in the City newsletter. She asked if the
commission would like to set a number of articles to be published each
year and if the commission would like to write their own articles or
reprint other articles.
ENERGY COrAfI55I0N MEETING, FEBRUARY 24, 1987 PAGE 4
Mr. Saba indicated he would like to see articles that included information
from the NEW's, perhaps an article on attics, another on basements, etc.,
to be included in the neusletter. Basic information would be sufficient.
Ms. Gibson noted the next newsletter would be the summer newsletter and
suggested something about cooling� She suggested articles like an Energy Corner.
Mr. Saba stated that energy efficiency also makes cooling more efficient.
Mr. Sielaff thought an article could make the same appeal as in the fall
but to do it earlier to appeal to the cooling season.
Mr. Saba suggested including sealing bypasses in the attic, what to look
for, and how it would help with cooling. He would also like to have an
article on radon after the commission has obtained additional information
and has been able to do some testing.
Mr. Sielaff asked how often the newsletter was published.
Mr. Saba indicated quarterly, but suggested increasing it to bi-monthly.
Ms. Gibson felt that the Energy Commission would be able to provide
material for a bi-monthly newsletter, but that it was difficult to get
the newsletier out now on a quarterly basis.
4. OTHER BUSINESS
Ms. Gibson referred to the articles enclosed with the agenda noting the
information received from the Radon Information Council.
Mr. Saba stated he would like to go through some testing with a radon
detector.
Mr. Bondow stated that radon testing takes 3 to 12 months.
Mr. Saba indicated that the level of radon is affected by a number of
different factors, but in homes �t seems to be higher in basements and
the level is also higher in homes where people smoke. Mr. Saba asked
members to read the articles and to share any additional information
they may have with the commission.
Mr. Sielaff indicated that Mr. Charles Lane of the MPCA was working on
suggested rules and was doing some testing for radon. He will contact
Mr. Lane to see what the testing results were and to see if he had any
additional information.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Mr. Sielaff, seconded by Mr. Bondow, to adjourn the meeting.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SABA DECLARED THE FEBRUARY 24,
1987, ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:25 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Lavonn Cooper, Reco ding Secretary