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PL 11/18/1987 - 6924City of FricIley :� AG ENDA PLANNIIVG Q?I�ILS3mN DEETII� WFINE.SI�AY, 1`x7JF1�8II2 18� 1987 7:30 P.M. - ---- � --- -�— - - - -_ - — -- I10Cdt7.OlY: � COlII1C11 Qla[fll)E.'i il3j7pEC ZEV21� U �.:o �• c� ' i:�i/ ; �ql �. •�;�W1 � � vl �i l4�- �.N��,= �: SY �tl/�LU. riY L�-t�-,��wKi��,w; . ._..�..��. � ... . . . . . . . . . Per Section 205.09.01,.,�.3-�csf�the Fridley City Code, to allar �y cat�-Y� 1, &lock 1, Sprincjorook Apartments at Nor�,tewn;-the �ne being 165 - 83rd Avenue N.E. pr�r rr rac�aurnr• ap�rt�gZnmrON OF A F.T.TMTNARV PL�T. P.S. $87-�7 f�ATf�R QnK:Gt BY aRTQQ�IIIi B�jL��. II�.• �:�-": Being a replat of Lot 16, except the.,East=`��feet, Auditor's Subdivision No. 92, and�ioti A, Acorn Hills Addition, and that part ai,�Lot"Y%F, Auditor's Subdivision No. 92, whidi lies ��"l"o`f the West 165 feet thereof, except �e F.�s�3ti�feet of said Lot 14, all generally locate�,a� �980 Stinson Boule�azd N.E. p��rpRRATTON OF A VACATrON SAV #87-1�, gY BRSGRN�R �TS ilF.RS. INC. • . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ,� To vacate t3�at�part � NkKinley Street a.�,,dediCS ed in the Plat c� Aoorn Hill Addit��art��oqether with the Northecly extension , '"�PicKinle� Streeb to the South line � the ' r Oaks, generally located at 598D Sti evazd N. E. �: . . Corobine the easterly 49.5 feet and the of Lot 6, Block 1. Rice Creek Plaz create one build3hle lot. Zhe belaiging to Lot 5 and sterly � bel�ging to Lot 7 e being 241 N.E. west � � � .5 feet � Addition to � half of Lot 6 naa half of Lot 6 now Rioe t:reek Terrace �� • . . .. To split off that�part �ot Lot 6, Block 3, R�a.� Plaza South Additi�, lying southwester��.�;p��'�T'ire drasan aa parallel with and 5 feet north�"of, as measuced at ric}�t angles to, ti�e �c�+�ot�2iwesterly line of said Lot 6, the same be�,yag°�� Rioe Creek Terraoe N.E. F�� i , . 1 - !I ` / (/i � "" '� 1/v "7 � � , . 2-2H � � :� �.>I,s,� �a�� a � � r� 1�j �- � . ��.�^ 3 � �.�� , v � .� �„' � . ��, . . . . 4 - 4G ; s - ,, �( `�4 � .� �� ` � ��„� . 5—SF � 1�"� '' . � C 4�� > � � � 12- � � PLAPII�IING aJMM7SSIl�N P�II�}L1A NC7JII�BFR 18, 1987 PAGE 2 ::n� a,. • : al�: 4�;; � ; .� • ,r, : �.�, 1 YY � �- •� .. U �:: Y � � • : �ixa}Y �. �:: 4� ; a« U�. Y.i ul �l 14y. • 4.i :U�: �: a. • 1; a,. • u � •� • 1.�11�1% �: � ' : e. � �. �. u \l Y � . • . �. C � �►/ .� ' 4 \� ►4.�; M • �.MN:�; :.` I �, , u �1 t � �► :� � v �Y , • ��,�lyl • \ • �,M1�r. 7�: � � ' i \ V 1 • � .� � i � � \ �I,VIV • 1 • 11 I�VI: 7i� C �. �1 V \i ➢ • � � V V � � � , � /a�i: �; � •bY : . I 7. : �, �. I; �'u171�1y 0 CITY OF FRIDLCY PL4P�NII;G COt1'?ISSI(`t! P1[ETIPlG, OC7CEEP, 21 , 1987 CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson 6itlings called the October 21, 1�87, Planning Commission r�eeting to order at 7:30 p.m. ` ROLL CALL: Ner.ibers Present: Steve Billings, Donald Betzold, �?aynard f;ielsen (for Rich Svanda), 2ruce Eondow (for Dean Saba) "9ecibers Absent: Dave Kondrick, Sue Sherek Others Present: Jim P,obinson, Planning Coordinator Jock Rdbertson, Comnunity Development Director John Glynn, 825 - 50?z Ave. N.E. Robert Y.udla, 14030 Underclift St. N.W., Anoka 6i11 Jensen, 6875 Highway 65 �J.E. Allen 4lestfall, P.S.I. Y,urt P1arke, 251 60Z Ave. N.E. Steve Manuel, 462 97th Lane �I.C., Elaine Tony Palaia, 120� Os6orne Rd. �l.E. Jerry Jackson, 1150 Osborne Rd. N.E. llayne Dahl, 7699 Highway 65 �J.[. John Dlelson, Qloomington, �1n. Harold Anderson, 203 Cooper Ave., St. Cloud P OC':OBER 7, 19$�, PLANhIING COH."::SS?.^P! NIfI!!TCS: MOTIDN BY MR. BETZOLD, SECONDED BY MR. BONDOW, TO RPPROVE THF. OCT. 7, 2987, PLANNSNG COAfMZSSZON MINUTES AS 6dRITTET7. UPON A VOICE VOTE, RLL VOTING AYE, CHRIRPERSON BZLLINGS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 1, PU6LIC HFAf'.IWG: C0�lSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USf. Pf:F!MIT, SP �87-1P, B`! inuni ri vAini. Per Section 205.05.4 of the Fridley City Code to allo�i a different cor�mer- cial use in an S-1 zoning district (special zoning district for Hyde Park) located on Lots 27 and 2II, Block 12, Hyde Park, the same being 5�73 - 3rd Street P�.E. MO.ZON BY MR. BETZOLD� SECONDED BY MR. BONDOW, TO G;AIVE THE FORM.AL READZNG OF THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTZCE Al7D OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARZNG. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTSNG RYE� CXAIRPERSON BILLZNGS DECLARED TNE MOTION CRRRZED UNANIMOUSLY AND THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 7:32 P,M. °IAP�NIt1G COt'.t?ISSIO�! HCETING, OCTOBER 21, 1987 PAG[ 2 �1r. Robinson stated the special use permit was to allow a copy sales and service business in the S-1 (Special Zoning District for Nyde Park). The Hyde Park zoning overlay was created to change a legal non-conforming status that some of the residential dwellings had in the neighborhood prior to its enactment. One of the unique things about the ordinance w�s thai it does not have a provision for commercial development, although there are at least three commercial developments in the area, other than residen.*,ial apartments, In the past, the Planning Commission and City ''ouncil have used the special use permit process whenever there is a proposed change in commercial use in the district. The special use perr�it process is iatilized to ensure that the new development is compatible with the neiqhborhood and also to set stipulations for the qua]ity of the development. "1r. Robinson stated this particular property at 5973 3rd St. was the suhject of a special use pernit in October 1985, which was granted by the City f,ouncil; hor�ever, the petitioner never tool; occupancy of the building and the operation was never finalized. Mr. Robinson stated P1r. Glynn's operation was a lower intensity use than what was proposed in 19II5 in that there will be four or fewer parking spaces required at any one time. He believed there were approximately three employees, not all full-time, so there would not be the need for a parking lot expansion as was envisioned with the last proposal. t1r. Robinson stated the site plan, which was approved in 19II5, was for an expanded lo± area. The pr000sai was to lease from the C�t,y slinhtly over 16Q0 sq. ft. of Lot 27. Both Lot 29 and Lot 3^ are held by the City of Fridley and were acquired for the slip-off from University Aven. ,'It that time, a lease oias proposed and approved by the City. �1r. Robinson stated that at this time, they do not envision a parl:ing lot lil:e that proposed in 1985, but rather would utilize the existing hlacl:top area. It ��ou]d be suf`icient for four cars, so the par4:ing requirement which was part of the previous proposal was not part of the current proposal. !".r. Robinson stated Staff has worl;ed with �?r. f,lynn to come up with ir�prove- ments to the property. These taould include facade improvements. ?hey have not yet arrived at what they `eei is the most appropriate plan for the building; however, they have looked at some opportunities such as adding some cedar trim. Mr. Robinson stated Staff was recommending the following stipulations: Building facade improvements, subject to staff approval, to he completed by Oct. 31, 1988. 2. Landscape improvements, as per City plan dated Oct. 21, 1987, to be installed by Oct. 31, 198II. Location of plantings on north subject to Cou�cil determination. PLI1P74lINC COt1"1ISSION t?EETIt;G, OCTOEFi', 21 , 1987 PAGL 3 3. Parl:ing situation to be�reviewed in two years (or sooner if necessary) to deierr�ine adequacy of existing parking lot. If additional stalls are required, petitioner will install expanded parking vrith concrete curbing as per Oct. �1, 1987, drawing. Contingent upon Council approval of lease of approx. 1,'6D4 sq. ft. of Lot 2�, Block 1�, !�yde Parl:. 4. Petitioner agrees that any future reuse of the building is st�hject to finding, through a special use permit process, that the reuse would be compatible with the surrounding neighborhood, MOTZON BY MR. BETZOLD, SF.CONDED BY MR. BONDO[d, SO CLOSE TNE PUBLIC HF,ARING. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON BZLLINGS DECLARED THE PUBLIC HERRING CLOSED AT 7:39 P,M. MQTION BY MR. BETZOLD, SECONDED AY MR. BONDOW, TO RECOMMEND TO CISY COUNCTL APPROVAL OF SPECIAL USE PF.RMZT, SP }387—Z8, BY JOHN GLYNN� PER SECTION 205.05.4 OF THE pRIDLEY CZTY CODF, TO ALIAFI R DIFFF•RENT COMMERCIAL USF. I^7 AN S-1 ZONING DISTRICT (SPECIAL ZONING DISTRIC2 FOR HYDE.PARK) LOCATED ON LOTS 27 AND 28, HIACX 12� HYDE PARK� THE SAME RF,ING 5973 — 3RD STREET N.E. �'"H THE FOLL0677NG STIPULATIONS: I. BUILDING FACADE IMPROVEMENTS, SUBJECT TO STAFF RPPP.OI�AL, TD BE COMPLETED BY OCTOBER 31, 1988. 2. LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMF.NTS, AS PER CSTY PLAN DATED OCT. 21, 1987, TO BF. INSTALLED BY OCT. 31, I988. LOCATION OF PEANTINGS ON NORTH SUAJECT TO COUNCIL DETF.RMINATION, 3, PRRKING SITUATION TO BE REVIEWED IN TWO YF,ARS (OR SOONER IF NECESSARY) TO DETERI�fINE ADEQURCY OF EX7STING PARKING LOT, IF ADDITIONRL STRLLS ARE RF.S?UIRF,D�. PETZTIONER WILL INSTALL EXPANPFD PRRKING fdITH COl7CRETE CURBING AS PER DCT. ?1, 1987, DRAWI9G. CONTINGENT UPON COUNCIL APPP.OVRL OF LEASE OF A2'PROX. 1,604 SQ. FT, OF LOT 29, BLOCK 12� NYDE PARK. 4. PETZTIONER AGREES TXAT AP7Y FUTURE REUSE OF THE BUILDING IS SUBJECT TO FINDIP7G, THRDUGH A SPECIAL USE PERl17T PROCESS, TAA'" THF. RF,USF. WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WZTH 2HE SURROUNDING NEIGHEORXOOD. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON BILLINGS DECLARED TXF. MOTIOPI CRRRZED UNANIMOUSLY. Mr. Ro6inson stated this iter� would go to City Council on flov. 9. 2. PUBLIC HEARING: COtISIDERATIOPI OF A SP[CIAL USC PGR"'IT, SP �!87-19, B° nnnrnT viini n. er 5�----ection-205.24.4.2 of the Fridley City Code to allow a garage in an 0-1 (Overlay District) on Lots 33-36, Glock U, f?iverview Heights, the same being G83 Fairmont Street N.�. PLAPJf7It1G CO!41ISSIC�I tiEE?ItIG, OCT06[R 21 , 1987 PAr•,� 4 MOTION AY 11X. IIF.TZOLD� SECO!?DPD 1J^ I'f. !]IELSFN� TO WAIVF, THE FORMRL READING OF THE PUALIC HEARING NOTICE AND TO OPEP7 THF, PUALIC HF.ARING. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AY$, CHAIRpERSON BILLINGS DECLARF.D 2HE l."OTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY AND THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 7:4:. P.M�. � t1r. Robinson stated tris proposal was tc� construct a garage on the propert�,�. �he property was located in the Overlay District, 0-1 District, which has to do with the flood.zone. �ny construction in this zone required a special use permit. In this particular case, because it was not a habitable struc- ture, the requirements were less stringent than they normally would be. t1r. Robinson stated the propertv was zoned single family, and was desi�nated as flood fringe in the Overlay District. The aarage would be located on the rear of the lot, and there were no problems with setbacks. The stipulations were as follows: Proposed garage shall be firmly anchored to prevent fiotation. 2. Proposed garage shall be flood-proofed in accordance with the State Building Code. 3. A hard surface driveway shall be installed within one year of building pernit authorization. 4. Facade of garage to be corpatible with house. MOTION BY MR. BET20LD� SECONDED BY MR. NZELSF.N, TO CLOSE THF, PUBLIC XEARING. UpON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE, CHAIRPERSON RZLLINGS DECLAREb TNF, PUBLIC XF.ARZNG CLOSED AT 7:44 P.M. MOTZON BY MR. BETZOLD� SF.CONDED BY MR. BONDOW� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF SPECIAL USE PERb1ZT� SP #i87-19, BY ROBERT KUDLA� PER SECTION 205.24.4.2 OF THE FRIDLEY CSTY CODE TO RLL047 A GRRAGE IN RN O—L (OVERLAY DISTRICT) ON LOTS 33-36� BLOCK U� RIVERVIE[d HEIGHTS� THE SAM.E BEZNG 688 FAIRP40NT STREET N.E.� Y77TH THE FOLLOWING SPSPULATIONS: 1. PROPOSED GARAGE SHALL BF. FIRNLY ANCHOR$D TO PREVENT FLO_"ATIOP7. 2. PROPOSED GARAGE SHALL BE FLOOD—pROOFED rCi ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE BGSLDIN6 CODE. 3. A HARD SURFACE DRIVEWAY SHALL BE INSTALLED WITXIN ONE YEAR OF BUILDZNG PERPI7T AUTHORIZATZON. 4. FACADE OF GARAGE TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH HOUSE. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BILLZNGS DECLARED THF. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Mr. Robinson stated this item would go to City Council on Nov. 9. PLAP�PJIIIG C0�"tISSION �1EETING, OCT06ER 21, 1987 pn,�r 5 3. PUQLIC HEARIPIG: CONSIDERATIQN OF A REZO�lI�"G, l0A #87-04, BY JA'i�S BG'!SOfI; To rezone from C-2 General Business to �"- l,ight In ustria on Lot 4, Block 1, A& R Second Addition and Lot 3, Block 1, A&�' Addition, the same being 7651 Nighway 65 Pl.E. , MOTZON BY MR. BETZOLD� SECONDED BY MR. NZELSEN, TO WAIVE THE FORMAL READING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE AND TO OpEN THB pUBLIC HHARIAIG. UPON A VOFCE VOTF,� ALL'DOTING AYE� CHAZRpERSON BILLINGS DECLARED THF. MOTION CAP.RIED UNANIMOUSLY AND THF, PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 7:46 P.M. Mr. Robinson stated the property was located just south of Osborne and east of Highway 65 and was a combination of a parcel which was part of A E� R Rddition and A& R Second Addition. The proposal was to rezone from C-2 existing to 11-1 zoning. The property just to the east was �'-1, to the south it was t1-i, and the corner property was C-3, the heaviest commercial zonina. Mr. Robinson stated the rezoning was which was classified as warehouse in industrial zoning. needed to facilitate the mini-storage the City !:ode and was allowed only in P1r. Rohinson stated the property was previously zoned atl C-3. The C-2 zoning was sought 6y the developer of the plats, both Dave Harris and John Nelson, in order to accommodate the smaller commerciai development they anticipated on the property. The development they were seel:ing would have been t�indered by setbacks and lot areas under the C-3 zoning, so the C-2 was approved for the plat of A& R Addition in August 1986 and for the plat of A& P, Second ,4ddition in February 1987. P"r. Rohinson stated the City's desire and intent for quality developments for both the plats and the rezonings were expressed in stipulations which. calted for comprehensive desi9n elements such as li�hting and lan�scapin9. An area map demonstrated the current state of the developed area. t1r. Ro6inson stated that besides the request for rezoning, there arere variances which went to the Appeals Commission on Oct. 13. The status o° those have changed. The original setback variances were for a building setback from 35 ft. to 15 ft. on the east, a building setback from 35 ft. to 30 ft. on the north, a green space buffer from 15 ft. to 5 ft, on the north, a hard surface setback from 5 ft. to 0 ft. on the east, and a parking stall reduction fron 26 stalls to 3 proposed, Mr. Robinson stated that since the Appeals Commission meeting, the developer has revised his plans and there currently is 1D ft. of buf*er space on the north so they are 5 ft. closer to the 15 ft. required. They now meet the building setback on the north, the building setback on the east would remain the same, and the hard surface requirement was met on the east. The parking stall remained the same. "+r. Robinson stated in addition to rezoning and the variances, there was also the need to vacate a street and utility easement which was required at the PLh"INItJG COtiN?SSIOP� P1[ETIfIG, OCTOBER 21, 1987 P,'IGF 6 time of the A& P. Second Addition plat. These easements were required due to the fact that there are two large lots which were conbined into one parcel with very limited aceess to the curve on Viron Road, so a stipulation of the A& R Second Addition Plat was that the street easements were to be imple- mented and they are in place today. , P1r. Robinson stated one of the strongest points for the development was that it has a fairly low intensity of traffic generation. There will probably be 10 or fewer vehicles per day visiting the site accordina to the developer. "1r, Robinson stated on the negative side, they might expect a higher intensity commercial development, maybe more compatible with the connercial development in the area, if the easements were r�aintained and the road was put in place. In addition, the Police Department feels this particular location does present sone security problems because it is fairly Yrell tucked away with poor views into the site. P1r. Robinson stated the westerly elevation would include a bricl: facade with concrete columns. The rest of the developnent would be a metal panel construc- tion with overhead doors. There would also be a residence on the site for the caretaker. Mr. Robinson stated Staff was recommending the follovring stipulations: 1. �eveloper agrees to covenant, through recorded document, that the rezoning of the property to N-1, Light Industrial, is for a mini- storage facility only. Any reuse of the property is subject to Council approval. 2. Developer will further covenant that the building and grounds will be maintained consistent with approved plans and stipulations of the rezoning. 3. Developer to supply final details for storm drainage, landscaping, and lighting for Staff approval by Flov. 10, 19£37. 4. All green areas to have automatic sprinkling. 5. Security fence along eastern and western perimeter to have tubular vinyl screening slats and vines planted four feet on center. 6. North elevation facades of all buildings to be of brick material. 7. Proposed security system specifications to be supplied for police review by Plov. 10, 1987. 8. Proposed storage leasing terms and conditions to be supplied for Staff review by Nov. 10, 1987. P�nr�Nrr�c cor+.russlor� wFErlr,c, OCTOEER 21, i9s� rnr,� � 9. Developer agrees to accept assessment for fair share of pro�osed comprehensive lighting project, 10. Developer to supply a perforr�ance bond or letter of credit to cover all outside ir�provements prior to construction. , 11. Dunpster to be fully screened from off-site view. 12. P.ezoning is contingent upon approval of street easer�ent vacation. 13. R11 outstanding park fees to be paid prior to construction. 14. �eveloper to submit drawings indicating pylon sign size, height, and location by f�ov. 10, 1987. P1r. Billings asked what would happen if the vacation was not granted. Vlould everything just get moved over 25 ft.to the east? Mr. Robinson stated the developer has stated they are already below industry standards in terms of the amount of lot coverage on the site in order to make the project financially feasible. If he had to res¢ect these easenents, he would not be able to make the storage facility go. ttr. Billings asked Hr, l�estfall to describe what the north facade of the buildings would look like and the security fencing on the north side. P1r, blestfall stated on the north elevation, they have agreed with brick with the exception of the center building where there is a glass door front, 8 ft. wide. On Building A elevation, they have agreed to use brick on its north face and its west face. The security fencing on the north side was wrought iron. There was a pad key entry with a multiple digit entry each tenant receives and the tenants must enter and exit atith that number. Just to the left of the entry, all along the north line, approx. ?0-3(? ft. centered, were 6 ft. high, 2 ft. by 2 ft. brick columns matching the building with wrought iron fencing. 7he caretaker residence was on the north end of Building A, the westerly-most building. Mr. Westfall stated that regarding the stipulations, the only stipulation he had a problem with was Stipulation #5: "Security fence along eastern and western perimeter to have tubular vinyl screening slats and vines planted four feet on center." P1r. Westfall stated they had no problem complying with the stipulation along the east property line, but they disagreed with that along the west property line, Having over 700 of these mini-storage facilities and maintaining them on an ongoing basis, if they have visibility from outside the facility, it helps facilitate the police driving by to be able to observe the facility. P1r, 4JAstfall stated he felt the west was probably the most potential area for the police to have any visibility to the back-end of their project,as all that expanse of open space might pose a natural avenue for vandalism. They think this stipulation will impose a security pro6lem on their property, PLIWNItlG CO!?�1ISSIOP! NEETIP;G, OCTOBEE 21 , 1987 PAGC 8 and they would prefer not to do any screening on the west side. t1r. P,obinson stated:the Polide Chief has indicated there is going to be a security probiem anyway because of the fact that there is no rcad that circles the property and there are poor views, irrespective of the slatting. Pir. Westfall stated that beca�se there does not seem to he a place for their mini-storage facility in the Code because they technically fali unAer the classification of warehouse, they are asked to build in an ""-1 zone. He stated 80-85% of their tenant 6ase is homeowners. They are a commercial use, There are an industry that is only 17-18 years old, and this type of facility is just not addressed in most cities. P"r. Billings stated that regarding Stipulation !`12, "Rezoning is contingent upon approval of street easement vacation ", even with the vacation, the site seems to be marginally cost effective. h1r. Westfall stated they have their mininum standards for the number oF units on a lot this size. If they drop another building, there would not be enough income from the rental of the units to justify the expense of building the storage facilities. !1r. Billings asked 9f this #n any way gave an indication that maybe this isn't the right site for this project. Mr. Bill Jensen, an Engineer with Suburban Fngineering representing PSI, stated they have to recognize that the easement vras a very recent thing, and it was in response to what was recognized as a possihle future problem. Ne thought that problem was really coming to a head and was going to he recognized for its genuine and practical questions at this time. t1r. Je�sen stated he had a copy of a compos�te drawing of the County's half section map overlaid over a 1985 aerial photo. At the time of the A E R Second Addition plat, it was recognized that the street in this location might be a necessary thing in order to provide access to these lots that are somewhat buried from the public road. and the possibility of sor�e sort of additional access being necessary on the Anderson development plat to the east. At this time, with the proposal by PSI to make qse of this site, because of the fairly low traffic impact and finding the narrow access point at the corner of Viron Road to be very suitable for their purposes, the need for this road was reduced substantially. Of course there was sti77 the question of the Anderson development, but he believed there were probably other accesses that could be provided for that area without impacting the A& R ftddition and the A & R Second Addition. Mr. Jensen stated they think also that the Conmission should note on the aerial photo that the road in this location runs right into Strite Anderson's building. The building is 20 ft. from the line, and the road easement provided on A& R Addition and A� P, Second Addition butts right into that building. That apparently is a cul-de-sac situation of substantial length that is greatly in excess of what the ordinance provides for. PLANHIHG COh7tiISSI0P7 41fETI�1f, OCTOBER 21, 1987 PAGE 9 "1r. Robinson stated that when the City acquired the easements, it was in response to the fact that what was �riqinally a fairly small lot, a little over an acre, with this fairly poor access now needed to be coMbined with another lot of adequate size to create a three acre parcel. At that time, as a condition, the City said they needed the street easements ahd they were acquired ali the way to Osborne P,oad. The City's proposal, which was future-oriented, was to have a road connect to Old f,entral in either of two locations. They realized it was not good planning to just butt the road up against a building, but there was the opportunity for additional street right-of-way with the development of the property to the east which was almost all vacant, with the exception of the trucking conpany. P1r. Betzold stated he was a little concerned that they should preclude any future access into the Anderson developr�ent.. They have already seen a lot of changes in this area, and he was hesitant to vacate those easer�ents, especially when the City was very specific about getting them put in. Nr. P,obinson stated 41r. Dave Harris, a developer of the plat, was not able to be at the meeting so he had sent a letter to the City. MOTION BY MR. BET20LD� SECONDED BY MR. BONDOW, TO RECEIVE MR. HARRIS' LETTF.R DATED OCT. 2I� 1987, UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOT7NG RYE� CHAIRPERSON BILLINGS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. t".r. P.obinson stated that in the letter, Hr. Harris had stated he wanted the Cor�nissian to favorably consider the vacation of the road easement on th.e easterly portion of the property in question. ""r. Robinson stated P?r. Harris had stated that at the time A& R Second Addition was platted, City Staff had advised him that it would be necessary to provide for an easenent on the easterly part of the A& R development and the westerly part of the ,M derson property in order to provide adequate access to the Anderson property. Because of Staff's insistence, he reluctantly agreed to the easement. He also stated that at the time this took place, he was not aware there was an exist- ing plat on the A�derson property. This plat does not provide for a street a?ong the boundary of the A& R and Anderson property. The plat does provide for adequate access without this easement, t'.r. Harris had stated the easement was a detriment to the �� R property, and he felt he was not fully advised by Staff and their statement that this easenent was needed for access was in error. "1r. P,obinson stated it was made very clear to t1r. 1larris that th.e reason for the easenent was that they did have three acres of property with poor access, in addition to the fact that they did �eed access for the Anderson property. This was all on record. !1r. Jensen stated the idea of looping this road out to Old Central does eliminate an overly long cul-de-sac; however, there was also another option in the way of correcting the access problems that might exist in the southwest corner of the !Inderson property. These are still vacant parcels, and there could be a roadway between Lots 2 and 3 and looping out similar to those options illustrated by the City. In that instance, there would he no negative PLA^INIFlG CONI1?SSIC'! �1C[;ING. OCTOE[" Z]. 19&7 PAG� 1Q impact on the proposed use by PSI and would serve the Anderson development reasonably well. He was only suggesting that there were some other options and what those are should be left up to the future developers, Mr. Tony Palaia, Palaia Construction, stated he was constructing,the two buildings facing Osborne Road. 4Jith him at the meeting were Jerry Jackson, owner of the Dental Lab, and Wayne Dahl from the Fridley Chiropractic Clinic, and !".r. Anderson, fror� Anderson Trucking. Mr. Palaia stated this property has been sitting vacant for sone tine, and when it v+as rezoned to C-2, all of a sudden four Tots were inmediately developed, At the time he cane to the City to request the construction of these two buildings, it was made extremely clear to him by City Staff that the concerns of the City were that this area be d?veloped in an orderly fashion and that these were to be extremely nice looking buildings. He stated they have gone to considerable expense to do that. The green areas have been strictly adhered to. Between the two buildings facing Osborne R.oad, they are spending in excess of �30,000 to adhere to the City's requirements. F+.r. Palaia stated the vacation of the 25 ft. easer�ent was made mandatory of hiM to be added to the 25 ft. or 30 ft, easement at the tir�e o` future development of the Anderson property. It was made very clear to him t,ha' if there vrere no easements, there would be no building permits. He had no problems with the easement if it was going to be made to the entire plat, not only to the A& R plat, but also to the llnderson plat. The develorment o° the entire area was put `orth as a nice commercial development, and now all of a sudden they are being asl;ed to go along with a vacation of an easenent and restrictions that Y�ere put on them that are not being asked and adhered to with the developr�ent of the mini-storage facility. !ie had strong reserva- tions about this type o` facility going in on this property. t1r. Palaia stated he was opposed to both the rezoning and the vecation. The reason for that was he felt the development would not enhance the Anderson property with what looks to be a very developable piece o` land for cor�r�ercia' use. hs far as the road coming in on the west, he haA no probleei with that. Mr. Jensen stated there was an indication that the use of the Anderson property was commercial. He stated the zoning of the property to the east of the P,nderson development and the property to the south were ail zoned t?-1. He just wanted to make that clear. t1r. Harold Anderson, President of Anderson 'rucking, stated he owned the Anderson Property. 11e stated he was in agreement with the street easer�ent in that they would share with the developer to the west in that easer�ent. His concern was that if thai easenent is vacated and upon future deve'opment of his property, he did not want to end up paying the full exper.se o` a road if a road was needed in this area. He stated the rezoning joins his "+-1 property, and they would like the property zoned for what was the highest and best use for that property. If C-Z was the best zoning and would service the conmunity better, then that is what it should remain. PLANNI�JG COt+.P1ISSI0tl MEETING, OCTGBE(: 21, 19II7 P;'IG� 11 41r, John 4lelson stated he owned the parcel of land between the Strite Anderson Building and the Bass Pro Shop, He stated he was a commercial real estate broker and developer. He looked at this type of development as an asset, not necessarily a detriment, to his property and would venture to say that it could be an asset to the property ovmers around i�. ?he development was a very low traffic generator. ?hey could have some other kind of commercial use on that property such as an office building that could create considerably more traffic than was proposed for the mini- storage facility. He thought access to the project through the corner was limited to a degree and if there was a more intense user, there woulc! probably be some traffic problems. That, in effect, was what the easement onto Osborne was all about--to create a secondary point of access in the event a development was built that would create a traffic probler�. t!hat was happening was just the reverse. They are getting a developnent that is very handsorae, and that viould not cause any traffic prob7ems; therefore, there really was not a need for the easement. �"r. PJelson stated PSI was the largest mini-warehouse 6usiness in the 1!.5., and he has seen some of their developments throughout the country. He stated they are very handsome developments. PSI are the professionals in the industry. 11e stated that regarding his own vacant property, he would personally like to see the public storage Qroject be completed, because that creates activity for his lot and the other lots around and increases the value of his lot and the desirability of what possihly could happen to his property. In his estimation, this project would certainly not decrease t'�e value of the other properties around it. Mr. Nelson stated that as the project related to the road system for t1r. Anderson's land, from a development standpoint, he has developed properties in the past and until he knew exactly vrhat was going to 90 onto the land, he really did not know where the roads were going to be. From a practical stand- point, the road system is really something that has to be addressed in the future when the Anderson property is ready to be developed. ^1r. Nelson stated he agreed with F1r. IJestfall that the zoning required in an industrial zone was not really fitting to the use. He felt this type of facility was more a commercial type use than an industrial type use. Mr. Nelson stated that as a landowner adjacent to this property, he would be in favor of the rezoning and the request of a vacation of the road easer�ent for PSI. Mr. Wayne Dahl stated he owned the Fridley Chiropractic Clinic. He stated he appreciated the nice appearance of the proposed buildings; however, as he understood it,there were going to be 30 ft. stalls in these buildings. As a boat owner, he knew boat vwners would desire a 3(1 ft, stall because that was what about a 25 ft. boat and trailer required, Novrever, he could not imagine maneuvering his boat around the Viron Road loopback and the corners to a 3n ft. wide road and try to get the boat into the storage area. The narrow aisles could potentially be a problen. PLANNIN� COh!�1ISSIOf± MFETIt;G, OCT08EB 21, 1987 PA.r,E 13 Mr. Jerry Jackson stated he owned the Dental Lab on Osborne Road, Sor�e tir�e ago when he was purchasing the land for his building, it was made very clear to him that this property kias going to be zoned only commercial. At that time, if there had been any doubt in his mind that there would be some other kind of use other than commercial on the proposed property, he would have looked for property elsewhere. He stated he has spent a lot of money on his building, and he was totally opposed to this development as far as access to the road. He had no pro6lem with the easement and a road going through. there in the future. MOTION BY MR. BETZOLD� SECONDED BY MR. NiELSEN� TO CLOSF. THF, PUBLIC HEARING. UPON R i/OICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BILLZNGS DECLARF,D THE PUALIC XEARING CIASED RT 8:55 P.M, "7r. 6illings stated in stipulation �12, they are saying the rezoning was con- tingent upon the vacation, but yet in stipulation ,#1, they are saying they will rezone to P?-1 for the Mini-storage and any use in the future was subject to City Council approval. To him that was saying that some time down the line i` there is no 1onger a mini-storage facility, the property could be used for something else. Since they do not know �ahat that "something else" is and the reason they established the easenen± in the first place was to provide access, from the standpoint of good planning, he was in a quandary as to how that good planning could have changed so radically in the few short months since this was done. They are sitting here trying to look at �ahat is going to happen to that land 5, 10, 2D years from now, and that is a very di'ficult thing to do. He was concerned that if they vacate the street ease- ment and something happens in the future where the mini-storage is not the best use of the land and something else wanted to go in on t�.at site, have they precluded proper development because they do not have that access? P1r. Billings stated that in 1986 when they imposed certain restrictions on the property, it was prir�arily in terns of the rezoning, and the bulk o` the stipulations were for landscaping, street lighting, etc. At that time, certain petitioners came in to rezone from C-3 to C-2 and do a neiv plat, and thP presentations at that time surrou�ded the fact that the best use of this property was going to be commercial development. He respected the petitioner's argument that the City Code says this particular use fits into the industrial character, but he was not sure this was the type of comr�ercial/industrial use they wanted to go in on this property. Ile thought the long range plan that the City envisioned in 1986 was for smaller comnercial type development in this entire area. Mr. Betzold stated it was not very long ago that they considered the rezoning from C-3 to C-2; and it was not too long ago that this �aas virtually an enpty field. �Jow they must make sure they are not stuck with something they will regret. Until they really knovi how they want that property developed, they should keep the street easenent. Ne was not sure if this particular develop- ment would or would not fit in. The petitioners have indicated there was not a zoning classification that this mini-storage facility fit into, and he would agree with that, but he Yaas not sure if this type of facility even belonged in this particular neighborhood. He just did not think this project PLANNIflG COt41ISSI0N �1EETI��G, OCTOBER 21 , 1987 PAGE 14 was what he envisioned for this property. 11e would not be in favor of either changing the zoning or vacating the easer�ent. Mr, Bondow stated he was concerned about two things: (1) The security. He felt they should be concerned about the additional burden on the City and Police Department, and he thought because of the lieiited access to it, there will be a concern for surveillance and for security. (2) If they do rezone and do the vacation, he was concerned they might have precluded the land from any other future use, There really was no going back once they have g9ven up the vacation of the easement. He stated he would oppose the vacation of the easement as well as the rezoning. Mr, Billings stated that as mini-storage facilities go, the petitioner has an excellent looking facility; and if it were not for the location it was proposed in, he thought it would be a very attractive amenity to the City of Fridley. MOSION BY MR. BETZOLD� SECONDED BY MR. BONDOW� TO RF,COA?MF.ND TO CITY COUNCIL DENIRL OF RE20NING, ZOR ii87-04� BY JAMES BENSON, TO RF,ZONE FROM C-2 (GENERRL BUSINESS) TO M-2 (LIGHT ZNDUSTRIAL) ON LOT 4� BLOCK I� A& R SPCOND ADDISION AND LOT 3, BIACK 2� R& R RDDITION, THE SAMF. BF.ING 7651 HSGHWAY 65 N.E. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON BILLINGS DECLARED TIIF, MOPION CAIZRIED IINANZMOUSLY. 4. COtISIDERATIOt! OF A VACATIO"J, SAU �i37-10, BY JAN�S Bf_NSO";: o vacate the East 5 feet of Lot 3, Block l, A& R A ition, and the Fast 30 feet of Lot 4, Qlock l, A& R Second Addition, and beginning at the north- east corner of Lot 1, Block 1, A& R Addition; thence south along the east line of said Lot 1 to the southeast corner of said Lot 1; thence west along south line of said Lot 1, a distance of 25 feet; thence north along a line parallel with and 25 feet west of, as measured at right angles to, the east line of said Lot 1 a distance of T98 feet; thence deflect to the left in a northwesterly direction 45 degrees to the north line of said Lot 1; thence east along said north line to the point of beginning, all generally located at 7651 Nighway 65 N.F. MO?'SON BY MIZ. BETZOLD� SF.CONDED BY MR, NIELSEN� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL DENIAL OF A VACATION� SAV N87-10� BY JAMES BENSON, TO VACATF. THE EAST 25 FEES OF LOT 3� BLOCK 1� A& R ADDITION� RND THE EAST 30 FEET OF LOT 4, BIACK 1� A& R SECOND ADDI_TION, AND BEGINNING AT TNE NORTHF.AST CORNF,R OF IAT I, BLOCK 1, R& R ADDITION; THENCE SOUTH ALONG THE EAST LINE OF SAID LOT Z TO THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF SAID LOT Z; THENCE WEST AIANG SOUTH LINR OF SAID IAT 1y THENCE WEST RLONG SOUTH LINE OF SRID LOT 1, A DISTANCE OF 25 FEET; TNENCE NORTH ALONG A LZNE PARALLEL WZTH RND 25 FEET WEST OF, AS MEASURED RT RIGHT ANGLES TO THE EAST LINE OF SAID LOT 2 A DISTANCE OF 198 FEET; THENCE DEFLECT TO THE LEFT IN A NORTXWESTERLY DIRF.CTION 45 DEGKEES TO THE NORTH LINE OF SAZD LOT 2; THENCE EAST RIANG SRID NORTH LZNE OF SAID IAT 1; THENCE EAST RLONG SAID NORSH LINF. TO THE POINT OF BEGINNING� ALL GENERALLI' £,OCATED AT 7651 HIGHWAY 65 N.E, PLAfdNIN6 COP?"1ISSI!1N MEETIfIG, OCTOBFR 21, 1987 PP:G� 1� UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON BILLINGS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRZEP UNANIMQUSLY. t1r. Robinson stated the variances, rezoning, and vacation requests tvould all go to the City Council at a public hearing on Nov. 23. tJo zction would be taken until Dec. 7. 5. COt�SIDERATIOP! OF 1488 PLlINt1IPIG C�H�tIS5I0M MEETIPlG DAT[5: Mr. Billings recommended this iter� be held over until the next meeting when, hopefully, more regular mer�bers would be present. 6. RECEIVE SEPTEM�EP, 10, 1987, HOUSIPlf, & REDFVELO"t1E�lT AUTHORITY PIINUTFS: MOTION BY MR. BETZOLD, SECONDF.D BY MR. BONDOW� TO RECEIVE THE SF.PT, I0� I987, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT RUTHORZTY MINUTES. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BILLINGS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 7. RF.f,EIY� OCTOEER 5, 1987, PARY,S & RECREATIOC CCt'"',?SSIO"! rarr�t�rrs: MOTION BY MR. BETZOLD, SECONDED BY MR. BONDOW, SO RECEZVE TNE OCT. 5� 1987� PRRXS & RECRF.ATION COMMISSION MINUTES. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL SrOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BILLINGS DECLARED 2HF, MOTZON CRRRIED UNANZMOUSLY. 8. REf,EIVE OCTOBER 13, 1987, APPEALS CO"."tISSIOPi !1ItJU?�S: MOTION BY MR. BETZOLD, SECONDED BY MR. BONDOW, TO RF,CEIVE THF. OCT. 13� 1987, RPPEALS COMMZSSION MINUTES. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CXRIRPERSON BILLINGS DECLARED THE M07'TOPT CRRRIED UNANZMOUSLY. ADJOURPdMENT: MOTION BY MR. BETZOLD� SF.CONDED BY MR, BONDOW� TO ADJOURN THF, MF,F.T_TNG. UPOPl A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BILLINGS DECLARED THE OCT. 22� Z987, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:25 P.M, Respectfully submitted, �� t�7'..t' �[��C Lynr�e Saba Recording Secretary � . D �� a �, /�� `�?� ►t� �' • � • �� _._.�/-f>�! 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LFTAL DESCRIPPION: • : � � y' PRESFSIT ZGNING .iT�7Ys:H�I SPECIAL USE PERMIT BEING APPLIED FDR: 1i l PLIL _,________ SECTION OF RfiE O�DE: � * * * * * * * ,� * � * ,� � � * * � • * * * * � * ,r ,r • ,r * � ,c � � * * * * � � � * FEE OWNER INFORMI�lTION Nt�r� t�� as � �"� Ao� �5��<;.�� ctus a �_��_�? �. ADLRESS _ 1 ��i-I �_t,1c1`r'2�.�rG'.._ i'L�Jp. __S'�-' . L-t)l.'t:i_ �c.; Q_.�_i_3�4:�� --- SIGNAZURE ��. � . ��a.�c Ai1TE ��.r �o*e*t* Co*t*a *P*r*h*s*r*;*F�e*Q�m*r� �u�t*s�gr� f�o�m�p�ic�r*[o* p�r�ce�s�i�* * * * * PETITIONER INFORMATION NADSE �!S/� /'f'%A.UE 6'i9iJCOtlj FiICNE �` s%�'�'%�'% wK S i/ —L� i V ADIRESS /07 f�/GT%NAN c/@CGE f�lft�:l ifii /o—S'— �? � * * * a ,r ,r : �: � * � * * ,t t ,t t t rt � * * • ,r * � * � * • ,t � * * � � � � * � ,t F3.ANNING CJJMl�:ISSION: APH2OVID DINIED CITY (XJUPICII,: STIIi3LAT7DN5: I_7i3i. a�, �� ta�� I1z1TE IX�TE H]BLIC HEF�i2Il�Y; BEFURE �IiE H.APAIING OOI�PIISSION Notioe is hereby given that there will be a Public Heari.ng of the Planning Coa�missi� of the City of Fridle3 in the City Ha11 at 6431 University Avenue Nottheast ai Wec�esday, Idwanber I8, 1987 in the Council Ch��ber at 7:3� p.m. for the purpose of: Considerati� of a Special Use l�rmit, SP #87-20, by Lisa t�rie Giancola, per Section 205.09.O1.C.3 af the Fridley City Code, to allow day care on Lot 1, Block 1, S�rincj�rook A�rtme�rts at Northtarn, the same being 165 - 83rd Avenue N.E. Ariy and all pez�ns desiring to be heard shall be given an ap�rortunity at the above stated ti.me and �zlace. SlEVE BILLINGS Q�AIRA�41N A,ANNII�G CpMMiSSION Publish: NweN�er 4, 1987 Novc3nber 11, 1987 !A is Planning 10/30/87 __ SP #87-20 Lisa Marie Giancala MAILIL�iG LIST Council Lisa Marie Giancol.a 109 Haitman Circle N.E. Fridley, r�t 55432 L7niversity Avenue AssoCiates 7841 Wayzata Houlevard St. I_ouis Park, L�AI 55426 YMCA of D1etro Alinneapolis 30 S 9th Street Minneapolis, D'IlV 55402 Philip Moru.roe 720 Sunset Dri�� rlarinette, 4JI 54143 i2alph Virgillo 7466 Dieadaaood Drive Brooklyn Park, MN 55944 Weiri�ley Invest�ents Co. 2777 Stemmns Freeway Dallas, TX 752�7 P4-B Properties 2531 Marshall Street Minneapolis, MN 55418 I� ': f G� I I -;.��,i;i:,c:�<;:::j:cc::;j:cJ:•c'i�i;;':'i,�. ... J: ;Uc it?c :,l•7i� iil•)'-' is�i•'�=tl:i; i I ;j)_�.ii�:i:;:i"_':ac; ;'S :i?' �'��,��',• :;:'j• .;1. �',_ :;�:,`.•:�;. .r.;l., j.tJ�. .:�:":�i:�:j „j:�_,: -C:.{;�j_'_r:l:�'=fJ.. 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FRIDLEY, MN b5432 ,J (6123571-3450 RE�fy��i�a ��a��.i VACATION REQUEST SAV # � PLATTlPIG REGIIlEST �.5. ��-�� ,;r G'�'00/[.o'j' �` r7 R$ZUFST EEE' O� PARK FEE R°•CEIPP #_��t SQ�IFIULID PLANNING Q36IIdISSION I��TING 11Y�T'E tc 1 r� �. SQiF.'D�JI,ID CITY QOi7NCIL MEETING IIATE PROPER7Y iNFORMATION xtoPEtz� �t�zess `a 1��) �"lin sn�-, ;��-k , -- n p� � LEGAL I�sCxIFrION: Sc� %i"lyro.cl�edl c.cl E hc� ttivti-� LOT BLOCK 'IRACP/ADDITIfJN �a.� zaaaac d�-- � x�oFS�rm zorrnac (� - I REASGN Yt�R R$2Uf5T: A site plan shcwinq the proposed future use is ra�uired for all r¢oning. A7, �� }2 v c s i c� F vi�%i �b I L o%—s _._ __._ *****.******.,r*��****.***�*****�***,�**.****,r**********#*��**********�****�*+k***�*** �EE OWNER IPIFORMATf�IO� (j , .�C C Gl ��G.0 r\ E. G�. G� C7� C V1C� �� '"l A1FSh� (please print)_ PEIGNE # �� SIGNFiZL7RE 1��TE �*+***�* �*�**i**�*��*,F�a,��,�*�+��*,��'��,�*�°,E,�*,��kl��'**�*****,�****+�**,�ii****r**** PETITIONER INFORMATION NAME (Please print) �Yf._�v��r f Aa:� tcL�v-� _1 hyPfiONE # <� ��-.c> :�� —_ An�ess -.�� 6, S" � !��<o ��,c� r ' � _��,�_13 �� .-.— sicra�xTxs Tcu:��:� 1,�32��,�,,.:., nn.� it1—J:� %'�� --- ****�***�********��******��*******.*�**�**�*****��*****�***��*��**��*��***�***�***,� Pr.�n�c aoru•ffssioN : r�fxwm CITY OJUNCII.: APA2WID SPIFJLATIONS: DENIED IY1TE . DENIED Az1TE � Brickner Builde'rs 574-9871 623Q HWY.65 SUITE 104 FRIDLEY, MN. 55432 October 13, 1987 ADDENDUM - PLATTING Rr.QUEST FEE OWN�R INFORMATION NAME Irene A. Mitchell, ARA Irene Mitchell PHONE #�� '�i ��?_ ?' (i /� ADDRESS � ��L/ ` �L22� %/��-� f � SIGNATURB �- , DATE /I�� !J __ T / LEGAL; Lot 16, except the East 33 feet, Auditor's Subdivision No. 92 � � 6230 HWY.65 SUITE 104 FRIDI.EY, MN. 55432 ADDENDUM - PLATTING REQiIEST FEE OWNER INFORMATI6N NAME Nia,hlon S. Moe Fern I. Moe husband and wife A➢DRESS October 13, 1987 PHONE�I�- S%,� —,� D �/ SIGNATURE �7,Qj�y/� �- i�� LEGAL: Outlot A, Acorn Hills Addition DATE /a�c�%� % ' `7' 2B �3 Brickner Builders • 574-9871 6230 HWY.65 SUITE 104 FRIDLEY, MN. 55432 ADDENDUM - PLATTING REQUEST N!�'IE James A. Jozrlan Rita ADDRESS i, husband and wii'� � �IiX�-♦� fv GrJ Ronald E. Stuart Kathleen A. Stuart husband and wife ADDRESS October 13, 1987 PHONE /, ; /. - 7__ Z f� � _ PHONE .S 7� '�/ Z � LEGAL: Tha.t part of Lot 14, Auditor's Subdivision No. 92 i.n A.noka County, Minnesota which lies East of the West lb$ feet thereof, exaept t'he East 30 feet of said I,ot 14 � �� SIGNATURES: �� %'�'� � - — �ames�. dordan y / � � ��fi/k/�- _ �- c� _ Rita D. Joxdan i Ronald E. Stuart �� Kathleen A, Stuart 2C Date- / J �'� _� � .7—T — Da+e�4 - /3 "�— PfJBLIC HEARIlVG B�C)RE �IE PLANPIING �I�fl�LTSSION Natice is hereYry given that there will be a Public I�earing of the Planning Cammission of the City of Fridle� in the City [�atl at 6431 Uni.versity Avcnue Noriheast � We�esday, Atovenher 16, 1987 in the Co�mcil ��r at 7:30 p.m. for the purpose of: Consideration of a Preliminary Plat, P.S. #87-07, Heather Oaks, by IIrickner Builders. Inc., being a replat of Lot i6, except the East 33 feet, Auditor's Subdivision No. 92, and Outlot A, Acorn Hills Addition, and that gart of Lot 14, Auditor's Subdivisi� No. 92, which lies East of the West 165 feet theseof, except the East 30 feet of said Lot 14, all generally located at 5980 Stin�cn Boulevazd N. E. N�y and all pers�ns desiring to be heard shall be given an opp�rtwtity at the above �ated time and plaoe, SP�,�7E BILLINGS (IiAIItI�1t1 FLANNING Q�MMISSION Publish: Nwsnber h, 1987 Novenber 11, 1987 zv P.S. '#87-07 SAV #87-11 Heather Oaks BricY,ner Builders, 7nc. Bricicner Builders, Inc. 6230 Highway 65 N.E. #104 Fridley, MN 55432 Mahlon D'l�e 5955 Benjami.n Street N.E. Pridley, NL�1 55432 Jaires Thill 5961 Benj�min Street N.E. Fridley, r�t 55432 Jeffrey Saa.t�ela 6020 Stinson Boulevard P7.E. Fridley, ��1 55432 Thon�s Haley 6030 Stinson Boulevard N.E. Fridley, N�7 55432 Michael xubacki 6040 Stinson Boulevard N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Ward Stienstra 6035 blcKinley Street N.E. Fridl.ey, D'A7 55432 Jahn Benson 6025 McKinley Street N.E. Pridley, MN 55432 Denzil Jackson 6015 McKinley Street t7.E. F.ridley, MN 55432 Roif Dahle �995 McKinley Street N.E. Fridley, NPI 55432 Robert Katz 5985 D4cKinley Street N.E. Fri3ley, MN 55432 Elc.��n Kazmierkoski 5986 BicKinley Street N.E. r^ridley, bSN 55432 Robert P7aslaaski 5996 McKi.nley Street N.E. rridley, MN 55432 MAILIIVG LIST Paul Spencer 6020 McKinley Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Elrnars Prieditis 6031 Eenjamin Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Carl Kent 6021 Henjamin Street N.E. Fridley, MD7 55432 Lawrence Peterson 5991 Benjamin Street N.E. Fridley, ta7 55432 Michael Walus 5993 Benjamin Street N.E. Fridley, [�I 55432 James Jordan 2669 - 17th Street N.W. New Brighton, MN 55112 S�lvester A9itchell 5980 Stinson Eoulevard N.�. Fridley, MN 55432 Michael Ruane 1601 Gardena Avenue N.E. Fridley, P�7 55432 Fnnald S�ulik 5921 Benjamin Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Daniel Johnson 5941 Benjamin Street P7.E. Fridley, PII�T 55432 William Costello 1623 Gardena Avenue N.E. Fri3ley, P7N 55432 Curtis Strange 1633 Gardena Avenue N.E. Fridley, D'AI 55432 Rc�ger Ettel 1641 Gardena Avenue N.E. Fridley, NIN 554�2 �lanning __�.u!-�.�.[Yi.l-�._.. _. L� _ Council _ _. Dale Engebretson ].643 Gardena A�enue N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Steven Tigne 1651 Garc��na Avenue N.F. Fridley, MN 55932 Ilarvey Wager 5940 Stinson Boulevard N.E. Fridley, A+2d 5�432 Darlene Trhiitney 5920 St_inson Boul�v�rd N.E. Fridley, r4d 55432 Jesse Winters 1647 Gardena Avenue N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Harle.n Aanscom 6000 Stinson IIoulevrird N.E. Fridley, P7N 55432 Gregory Sharp 6035 Benjamin Street N.E. Fridley, C'A1 55932 Thcanas Joseph 6034 McKinley Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Jasres koussin 5995 Benjamin Street N.E. Frid].ey, NAI 55432 Rober.t Gillitzer �i011 13enjar,iin Street N.L. Fridley, P� 55432 Clifford ItickhoYf 15�i7 - 60th Avenue N.E. Pzidley, NLN 55432 Shsldon Taxraan 1581 - 60th i�venue N.E. Fridl.ey, f�IlV 5543"L Jeffrey Drumnond 1591. -- 60th 7lvenue N.E. Fridley, NCV 55432 PAGE 2 Heather Oaks 3rickner Builders, Inc. D. Hurit 6020 �njamin Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Mac:hael Ban7y 2568 Ferndale Avenue N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Andrew Eva.ns 6040 Benjantin 5treet N.E. L'ridley, h'�1 55432 John Bolich, Jr. 1580 - 60th Avenue N.E. I'ridley, P�7 55432 rllfred Henjwn 1590 - 60th Avenue N.E. I'ridley, MN 55432 Charles Majeslce 1570 - 60th Avenue N.E. FridZey, �II�] 55432 Brian Berg 1565 Gasdena Avenue N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Thomas Steifern 5950 Eenjamin Street N.E. Fridley, h'IIV 55432 i3ertha Lillemcen 1583 Gardena Avenue N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Charles LeEeaux 1624 Gardena Avenue N.E. Pridley, hII�1 55432 Daniel Harrington 1620 Gardena Avenue N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Jerald Bai2ey 1628 Gardena Avenue N.E. Fridley, N�V 55432 Merle Liep}:e 1634 Gardena Avehue N.E. Fridley, MN 55A32 Keith rlcAmis 1640 Gardena Avenue IV.E. Fridley, r'IN 55432 Rodney �ohnson 1646 Garrlena Avenue N.E. Frid2ey, D1N 55432 Richard Granger 1660 Ganlena Avenue N.F. Fridley, t�I 55432 City of New Briqhton Planning Department 803 - 5th AvenUe N.W. New Brightan, D7N 55112 2F �� /, : �l'7!1.a� `��. I I � I� , �� . 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P'�hD 4t7: MEhD FROM: MEt•1� AATE; pLANNiNG DiVISI�►N ME�ORANDUM Jock Robertson, Comnimity Developnent Director Jim Robinson, Planning Coordinator J�, October 27. 1987 RE�ARDIt�: Heal3�er Oaks Addition Flat In an effort to provide for inclusion of all possible vacant praperty in the ares of the Heather Oaks Plat, Tcm Bricker has met with the two land aaners adjacent to his proposed Plat. 7.hese two owners. Mr. Coatello and Air. Ettel, have large tracts of vacant property whict� abut the proposed Brickner Plat. Mr. Brickner �esented to them a preliminary Plat with 15 lats whic3� included portions of their property but left their princigle structure standing. An offer of 5.80 per square foot was tendered. 2his price is the same price whici� t9r. Brickner is Faying for the two westerly lots in the 12 lot Plat. Mr. Costello is willi.ng and anxious to sell his property for this price, hare�er, Mr. Ettel declined the offer. �e estimated imprwanent cost as detecmined ty the Ril�lic Works Department for the 15 lot Plat is 5123,274. �e improvenent wst for the 12 lot P.Lat is 592,153. Rhere is a diiferenoe of 531,121. without the inclusfon of both the Costello and Ettel Faroels, Mc. Brickner does not feel that it would be financially feasihle to include only the Costello portion. 'II�eceEore, he is prooeeding with the 12 lot Plat and is sd�edule for a Public Hearing at the Planning Commission on Novenber 18, 1987. One p�ssible �lution to the Costello prohlen would drivc.way ��ment off of Gardena Avenue to allav hi lats. �e Ettel property is presently serviced b� which wuld be shared with Costello. Althouc� this to the Code, a precedent has Yaeen set with the Ettel I welwme your corranents and questions. M-87-213 �if7 • be to work out a private m to split off one or two suc� a driveway easement would require a variance property. 2� PLANNINC I�►i"V'iS��'� • � � �► ClTI' OF FRIDLEY PEND 4U: Jock Robertson, Cormn�ity Develogn�t 17irector Nasim Qureshi� City t�1anager P�EPD FROA1: Jun Robinson, Planning Coordi[astor�,��. U'" l�rn L1�TE: October 13, 1987 RF��ARDII�: Prelzminary Plat f� Hasther Qaks Tan Brickner has made applicatian for appcwal of a Pre7,imminary Plat of 3.4 acres at the 5900 block of Stinson. The land is presently three separate �rcels. 7he respective aaners are: Irene Mitchell, James and Rita Jordan and Malone and Ferne Moe lsee existing owner map). The PreliminaryPlat includes twelve single family lots (see opti�n F�). In additi�, there is a 30 foot ric�t af way wtv.rh ru�s north and south and bisects the property. �is dedication is obsolete in that there is no oppact�mity to is�te a thtough street. The vacation of this right of way has been apglier3 far and will acmmFany the Plat procedure. Sn additim to the ti�ree parcels mentioned, L-here are two other property a+r:�ers, both to the south, which could also participate in the Flat. One being Roger Ettel of 1641 Gardena and the other William Costello af 2G23 Gardena. If these properties are included with the Plat, three additional lots �uld be made available lsee option B3. r�. Costello has e�ressed an irfierest in maintaining his opti� far subdividing his property for future hane sites. Zhe Fxohlen with inclusi� of the CAStello and/or Ettel parcels is that the grade droFs off substantiallyo A siyni£lcant amount of fill would have to be put in glace in orc�r to obtain pusitive drainage from the Costello or Ettel �rcels. 4riere is ro storm sewer in the immediate area, therefae it is necessary to maintain positive surface drainage over the entire �urs� of the street. 1� topogra�i-iic susvEy of this site iricluding the Costello and Ettel parcei� wi12 be avai2able at the end of the mcnth. At that time we wi21 meet with Ettel and Costello to discuss the implications and cost o£ including their �xoperty in the subdivision. I wiil keep you upc�ted on this matter. ?i�e public h�ring of the Plarssling Cc�unissicm i.s schedil,ed for Novenber lE, 1987. • .� , M-87-203 � I 'F ;� �` � . 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N.E. FRIDLEY, MWNESOTA 55432 •. PNONG (fi!2) 571-3450 i October 30, 1987 'it� Wf30M IT !�Y 9DNCII2N: Zhe City of Fridle� Planning Conanission will be holding an informal hearing on the mattez of a Vacation, SAV #87-11, by Brickner Builders, Inc., to vacate that part of PicKinley Street as dedicated in the Plat of Acorn Hill Addition and together witfi the Norti�erly extension of said McKinle� Street to the South lire of the Plat caf Amber Oaks, generally lorated at 5980 Stinson Bouleoazd N.E. Anyone who wisi�es to be heard shall be given the opport�ity at t�e Planning Comnission meeting on Weci�esday, Navenber 18, 1987 in the Co�mcil (hamber of City Hall at 6431 University Av�ue N.E. at 7:30 p.m. S�VE BILLII�GS QiAIRI�N PLANNING WMMLSS IDN 3n P.S. #87-07 SAV #87-11 Heather Oaks Brickner Builders, Inc. Brickner Ruilders, Inc. 6230 Highway 65 N.E. #104 Fridley, MN 55432 Mahlon r4oe 5955 Benjamin Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 James Thill 5961 Benjamin Street N.E. Fridley, D�7 55432 Jeffrey Saarela 6020 Stinson Boulevard N.E. Fridley, h�1 55432 Thomas Haley 6030 Stinson Houlevard N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Michael Kubacki 6040 Stinsari Boulevard N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Ward Stienstra 6035 McKinley Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Jahn Benson 6025 McKinley Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Denzil Jackson 6015 McKi.nley Street Y7.E. Fridley, MN 55432 RAlf Dahle 5995 McKinley Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Robert Katz 5985 MaKinley Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Elwyn Kazmi.erkoski 5986 McKinley Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 RoUert P7asloaski 5996 McKinley Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 MAILING LIST Paul Spencer 6020 McKinley Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Elmars Prieditis 6031 Benjami.n Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Carl Kent 6021 Benjamin Stseet N.E. Fridley, Mh 55432 Lawrence Peterson 5991 Benjamin Street N.E. Fridley, i'�i 55432 Michael Walus 5993 Benjamin Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 James Jordan 2669 - 17th Street N.W. New Brighton, MN 55112 Sylvester A9itchell 5980 Stinson Boulevard N.E. Fridley, PIIV 55432 D'lichael Fdiane 1601 Gardena Avenue N.E. Fridley, D�7 55432 I�nald �ulik 5921 Benjamin Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Daniel Johnson 5941 Benjamin Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 William Costello 1623 Gardena Avenue N.E. Fridley, DIN 55432 Curtis Strange 1633 Gardena Avenue N.E. Fridley, r'�7 55432 Roger Ettel 1641 Gardena Avenue N.E. fYidley, MN 55432 Planning 10/30/87 Council Dale Engebretson 1643 Gazdena Avenue N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Steven'Tighe 1651 Gardena Avenue N.E. Pridley, MN 55432 3B Harvey Wager 5940 Stinson Boulevard N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Darlene vdiitney 5920 Stinson Boulevard N.F.. Fridley, TII�] 55432 Jesse Winters 1647 Gazdena Avenue N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Harlen Hanscan 6000 Stinson Boulevard N.E. Fridley, D'A] 55432 Gregozy Sharp 6035 Benjamin Street N.E. Fridley, P�1 55432 Th�nas Joseph 6034 McKinley Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 James Roussin 5995 Benjamin Street N.E. Fridley, D'A7 55432 Rc3�ert Gillitzer 6011 Benjamin Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Clifford Rickhoff 1567 - 60th Avenue N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Sheldon Tarnan 1581 - 60th Avenue N.E. Fridley, t9N 55432 Jeffrey Drumnond 1591 - 60th Avenue N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 G PAGE 2 Heather Oaks Brickner Builders, Inc. D. Hunt 6020 Benjamin Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Michael Bargy 1568 Ferndale Avenue N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Andrew �ans 6040 Benjami.n Street N.E. Fridley, r'A7 55432 John Bolich, Jr. 1580 - 60th Avenue N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Alfred HenjLUn 1590 - 60th Avenue N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Charles Majeske 1570 - 60th Avenue N.E. Fridley, hIN 55432 Brian Berg 1565 Gardena Avenue N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Thanas Steifern 5950 Benjamin Stseet N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Bertha Lilleamen 1583 Gardena Avenue N.E. Fridley, NIN 55432 Charles I,eBeaux 1624 Gardena Avenue N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Daniel Harrington 1620 Gardena Avenue N.E. Fridley, NIN 55432 Jerald Bailey 1628 Gardena Avenue N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Merle Lie�ilce 1634 Gardena Avenue N.E. Fridley, NIN 55432 Keith D4cAmis 169Q Garderaa Avenue N.E. Fridley, r'IDl 55432 Rndney Jat�nson 1646 Gasc�ena Avenue N.E. Fridley, D1N 55432 Richard Granger 1660 Gaxrlena Avenue N.E. Fridley, NIN 55432 City of New Brighton Planning Depart3nent 803 - Sth Avenue N.W. New Brighton, DIIV 55112 � � I SAV 1187-11 Richard Brickner 3D z�R=.acJ-�--- � — SE�.�4 _ ,.... _ .•s... , .,� n 4VE K k,' ,� y�[�'/ � N � ..� 1 �/ 'J• S �L�II (� nM.tlfe [ft 8 ti r/•rr�i� � �>; ' ifi �Y� '.u'xi .1L.� �� 6 � �.c .lel (1i `�� a' ��l � 11.,C .`'� 1 d � O K t: iNn� � L : d ,Jf .. . � � ' � .1'y D � �Y7\ ;' � �� ` c� � �� i : y � . �� , i �• A IdNqf �>s ; a A BER��.; ;� _ - r . � # , � ` iac.- -J . w �, '�� : ; " �M� .� �, ��'��5 ,��,�a p�'' :I ,,ti�; �� . '� - ,�. s . � � _ . . . > � II � , • �� L � e s ar r � � � Itl •• � i � _ e � i)S � �. � 1 ` I'. � � _ ._ fo �c -�P P C�d+ C^p , l� . I ,�� >� Cf 2 �k . �� •/�. [f s ! a i e. 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" � 4 FRIDLEY �N as4ss „�,,;:_ LOT SPUT FORM L.S. #��-�/ ' (812157'�-S4b0 -� nom sx.rr �s� 100 �x �� 95D xsaeIPr # S/ __ __. sa�mor.m x��c a�rn�ussiaN r�er�c n�: Il � �_ _ saj�n.m crrsr aaTr�c� ►��-r�c n��: PROPERTY INFORMATION • � �.;_�.� LF�AL DESQ2IPTION: Lar�,.� s�.ocg I �r�iannrT� R,- . �� k 4�ta�.n sa 19�Q;�;:., �tFS�rrr zar»c REASGN fOR LOT SPLIT: A sketch c� the property and the pcoposed lot sglit with any existing structures shown should acoompany this application. �.a tt" � �***�,i*��'`i* �� * * * * ,t * * * * * • * t * * FEE OWNER INFORMATION � �� l , T ,e.e.9We� � °'� rur� �� l�o r F�i'l� t�, � y �., R-� c��.k r-��_� s7l - 7 5la s� ��•�. 57GNA'IURE y *o*e*t* *Co* oc�.y e . � e�ssa_�IGG.f��TE' ��/+�rr � ;* �e* �ie�s*m�s� �i�n*f*r*m �r� o* *o*p�o�ce�ss�n�.* * * * %�!-p t or,ph • i � •• i i ir .. • a� ra ir� QTY O�UI�1(;!L : STIPULATI�IS: LY,TE ••• a� �o- �r� i� � � _ GNOF FRIDLEY CIVIC CENTER • 6431 UNIVERSITY AVE. N.E. FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA 55432 • PHONE (612) 571-3450 October 30, 1987 TO WHOM IT I�Y GUNCERN: The City of FricIle� Planning Carnussion will be halding an informal hearing on a request for a Lot Sglit, L.S. #87-09, by Terzance Mickley, to combine the essterly 49.5 feet and the westerly 49.5 feet of Lot 6, Block 1, Rice Creek Plaza South Additi� to create �e buildable lot. 7he easterly half of Lot 6 now belonging to Lot 5 and the westerly half of Lot 6 now belonging to Lot 7, the same being 241 Rice 4Yeek Terrace N.E. Anyone who wishes to be heard shall be given the opportimity at the Planning Con¢nissim meeting on We�esday, Nwenber 18, 1967 in the Council Chamber of City Hall at 6431 University Avenue N.E. at 7:30 p.m. SIEUE BILLINGS QiAIRMAN PLANNING Q�1��IISSION ��,� � � (U z / � � /s � � :'� i i6 ; ;. L.S. li87-09 'rPrrance Mickley a� � � ��`� , � rs i�Jn' 'n �� 's " tG!_ •,�Zf) r il4) �� PO . 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AD N_ 6�MCtr3 �Y7d S(,1�rvJC or5 / il�iS . � dY�-_.–�—�'_'–`�� 1�2�s� d T._ _ , ---- . �' -, , � - MnnOHm Slifi0E9 , U�UR/�M .. I BB)5 MgnwaV NO. GS N.E. �■MOINL�RIMO � Mr�rc.w�,s. Mnxmou55�71 ,�C S��nOi�KI� e 8906510 ,�� ('�iv! L Mw.ryd I'�ywe..vy �.4v1 Tntuy � Lan1 Cur.e.uy � l.Id Mewray . I101 C'��• N,aaO I Bums.ine, Mlnrvwta 55J3I ■Certificate oi Survey for ��r►A�V JuVKQWhKI �� n _. � \ `�� . . , �� / � .. � / � �� Ay A �� Q��/ �� . h"' � OV''`Y'' `° �°r ��, �,��P 0� � � t. . ln� 4 �l ��' J �� j Q^� � Ka" e �v 0 �"� y`�" ?�'. a o U� 4 � \�3 . 3; ��b �. .�9 � \ � f�er�a {�b.� Mo�vnE+�T ^.4.� i'Y•' LL� � � . . (�t e \ �. 8 V b �s �_ �� _ 6 �ti� � ' a� �s ' s \ � �2 % n v 6" o . � � r'�'" 0`� O �Pt � p� � , � /., , r�o(1-�-H h�A�•. �•' � 4r�' � �� ry' V� .,...��P 0 Lot 7 and the westerly 5.0 feet of Lot 6, as measured at a right angle to the westerly line of said lot 6, Block 1, Rice Creek Plaza South Additfon. Anoka County, Minnesota. Subject to recorded ar unrecorded easements. � ' , � � '. 1 M��y <�rtily t6a1 �Itii� M� Irw �w� a�rnsl rqrn�neNi�n af • .. . 1„tr1�N I�n�� n� d th� baall�n �r ►ail/tn�� y �e� a�� atl � � w{� bn1. M wrr�y�� ►y wn IAB�I�y �{ G�rJ • O. 11 `. � sUWt� N � _ . . 'lw�ie� /� �7' �Yad:AliRlphnRaarvW , '. a e( fM beuniarl�� e/ th� e�ev� m�r�a� �M�� it oer� ir�m w M r' iE�l , INC. i rrvr•rs � � d . e i . .. GTY OF FRIOLEY g a487 UNIVERSITY AVE. N.E. - FRIDLEY MN ss4sz _ LOT SPLIT FORM L.S. #8�" IO (d 12)57 �-3460 ` LOT SPLTT FEE� 10 U PARR FEE �- RE(EIPP # 6� 7-S� �-- saim�n.m ri.Arar�c oorgussmN r�-r�uc nn.�: I I � l � s��vtm crrr �r�c� r�er�uc n��: � , , _ PROPERTY INFORMATION �FSS: 2�'•l� aP� e r? C'�P,D �� L�AL DESQtIYPION: i,ar �_ arAac � �2ACf/ADDITmN �� e C'�,ee��x.�'�s�¢c� t oK rxes�rrr zoN�c f �' / � REASCN bUR LOP SPLIT: A sketch cf t2�e property and the proposed lot split with any PYlsting structures shawn should accompany this application. * * * * * ![ } * * * tt * * * * * * * * * * * * * tF ! * * • * * * * * * * * * 1f * * * FEE OWNER INFORMATION NAME �G Bo n.S, �� ,ti, a ti PHONE #.5` 7/^ 7S� �_ ADIRESS �SD fii�p C�..� 1F % r. SIGI�LA'n��e�4 ��?7.±--��„� II4TE / o�/ 9, 97 *o*e*t* Co*t*a*t*P*r*h*s*r*;* �'e� �e�s*m�s� �i�n*f*r* �r*o* *o*p�o*e�ss�n�.* * * * PETITIONER INFORMATION r� (J�,�.�x I' J�p�P,� Q� �a�s � s�l r� �'� ,.� �. sicru�c�xe �a�� Pd� n� �4 �/� �g � *.,�,�*****.*„�****�**.*..****,�***********,* A.r�u�r�c aotuwssmN : �Pxwm �x�n n�Te �M �• � ••• }� �r 1�1� �� - _ C.ITY OF FRIDLEY SA C[V)C CENTER • 6431 UNlVERSITY AVE. N.E. FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA 55432 • PHONE (612) 571-3450 '� October 30, 1987 'IO WHOM IT NR�Y QONC�'.E2N: 1he City of Fridle� Planning Co�missi ar� will be halding an inf ormal hearing on a request foz a Lot Split, L.S. 487-10, b� Vermn Ballesen, to split off that part of Lot 6, Block 3, Rice Creek Plaza South Addition, lying southwesterly of a line drawn �arallel wifi� a� 5 feet northeasterly of, as massured at ric�t angles to, t3�e most wuthwesterly li� of said Lot 6, the same being 250 Rice Creek Terrace N,E. Anyone who wi�es to be heard shall be given the opportamity at ti�e Planning Comnissiar meeting on Wec�esday, Novenber 18, 1987 in the Coimcil C7�amber of City Hall at 6431 Lfiiversity Avenue N.E. at 7:30 p.m S�EVE BILI,II�GS CFIATRt�A.N PLANNIt� OJNA'IISSIDN L.S. i187-10 Vernon Bollesen Vernon Bollesen 240 Rice Creek Terrace N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Leon Bowman 250 Rice Creek Terrace N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Rodney Ogrezovich 271 Rice Creek Terrace N.E. Fridley, hIN 55432 Ronald Schoneman 26] Rice Creek Terrace N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 LeRoy Mathieu 25I Rice Creek Terrace N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Terrance Mickley 231 Rice Creek Terrace N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Lyle Elverud 221 Rice Creek Terrace N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Dwight Helland 260 Rice Creek Terrace N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Bruce Brottkn 270 Rice Creek Terrace N.E. 'Fridley, MN 55432 Daryl Zi�er 280 Rice Creek Terrace N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Carole Makie 200 Rice Creek Terrace N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 George ,Tohnson 210 Rice Creek Terrace N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Dwayne Dzubay 220 Rice Creek Terrace N.E. JFridley, rQ1 55432 MAILING LIST Bruce Lundberg 230 Rice Creek Terrace N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Patricia Walz 6800 Plaza Curve N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 William Williams 6790 Plaza Curve N.E. Fridley, MN 5543Z Wayne Hayward 6780 Plaza Curve N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Bradley Sielaff b770 Plaza Curve N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Carole Huss 6760 Plaza Curve N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 David Leigh 6750 Plaza Curve N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Ernest Bloom 6740 Plaza Curve N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Adelbert Wilm 211 Rice Creek Terrace N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Harry Zustiak 6751 Plaza Curve N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Earl Wedin 6761 Plaza Curve N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Mauritz Swanson 6771 Plaza Curve N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Dale Swanson 678] Plaza Curve N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Planning 10�30�87 Council Robert Berglin 6801 Plaza Curve N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 SB L.S. 1187-10 Vernon Bollesen SC LUGp► � �V�v mHr .S. 1187- O Denotes iron monument RICE CREEK TERRACE N.54410'00" � —too.0o � — 95.00 A N � ( '. �– 49.7 t2.8 zl m i,+ _ iw 01 N o g 23.4 27 0 oi a � 95.00 SCALE: n'' = 2q� � :2.i N 16.1 0 � 24 X 50 16X40 . . _ i, : 8.7� 13.8 � �: �� `.'_�..�_ :� LOT 5, BLOCK 3 RICE CREEK PLAZA SOUTH ADDITION Anoka County, Minnesota V. P. 6oitesen July 16. 1987 � � SITE PLAN SE L.S. l�87-l0 Vernon Bollesen SF AERIAL MAP PROPOSFD PLANNING CCd��4ISSI0N r�ETINGS ti+Tednesday, January 6, 1988 H�ednesday, Januaiy 27, 1988 Wednesday, February 10, 1988 Wednesday, Februaxy 24, 1988 Wednesday, I�7arch 9, 1988 Wednesday, March 23, 1988 V�lednesday, April 6, 1988 Wednesday, April 20, 1988 Wednesday, May 4, 1988 Weclnesday. MaY 18, 1988 Wednesday, June 8, 1988 Wednesday, June 22, 1988 4�ednesday, July 13, ]988 Wednesday, July 27, 1988 wednesday, Aug�st 10, 1988 Wednesday, August 24, 1988 y�dnesday, September 14, 1988 Wednesday, September 28, 7988 Wednesday, October 5, 1988 Wednesday, October 19, 1988 Wednesday, P7ovezrber 9, 1988 Wednesday, Decetci�er Z_, 1988 Wednesday, Dece�cber 21, 1988 JIM RUBINSON � �� V V ��V��. PLANNING CONII'dISSION MDG. i988 CITY COUNCtL MEETING AND HOLIDAY SCHEDULE �A JANUAR� FEBRUARY IAARCH S M T W T F S S M T W T F S S M T W T F S 2 � 2 4 5 6 ,- 1 �^ 3 0 5 3�: 5� 7 8 9 7 9 11 t: 13 6" 7 8(�7t0 11 t2 �0 M��2 1 14• 15 t6 1a �5 i6 �8 19 20 13,tA IS},� 17 1@ 19 17IBi9�/j212223 21ZY,Z3 252627 202i22(�3]842526 2a2526{��282930 28 2TZ829�63� 3t � AVRIL MAY JUNE S M 1 W 7 F S S M T T F S S M T W T F S 1 2 1�� 3 1 5 6 7 � 3 4 3 q' S 7 8 9 8�10],� 12131< 5'6 7� 91011 10?1 tY 141516 15'16;17(U8192U21 t2.13_t4 15 16 17 18 17 !6 1 1 22 23 2? 23 4� �5 26 21 28 19 ZO 21 2 29 24 25 24 '15 26 2B 29 30 29 31 26 z7 28�30 JULY AUGUST SEPTEMBER S M T W T F S S M T W T F S S M T W T F S 1 2 2 4 5 6 1 2 3 3 5 7 B 9 7 91 111213 � 6 8 910 10 12 t� 1516 14 516 161920 11 �3 151617 17 19 212223 21T.Z23 4 52627 18�20 222J24 2� Y5 2�28 29 30 28L930 25 26 27 29 30 31 OGTOEER HOVEMBER OECEMBER S M T W T F S S M T W T F S S M T W T F S t 1 3 4 5 t 2� 2 3� 5 8 7 B 6 7 8 0'11 t2 q S 8 0 8 9 r0 910it1 13t�15 13tIt5 71818 1t1213}� i5t61T 16 /7t8 02122 202+22 yZ526 181920(ay22232� 23L42S 272829 272B2 252627'FB293031 30 �'1 KEY X � Holidays 0 - Council Meetings O = Conference Meetings CONFERENCE SCHEDULE March 19 - 20 NLC Congressional City Conference Nashington, D.C. , June 7 - 10 League of !IDS Cities St. Paul, HN October 23 - 27 ICMA Conference Chatlotte, N.C. December 3 - 7 NLC Congress of Cities Boston, Mass. LEGAL HOLIDAYS Jan:' �-1 New Year6 Day ,lan. 18 Mar[in Luther King, Jt. Day Feb. IS' Presidents Day May 30 Hemorial Day July 4 Independence Day Sep[. 5 Labor Day Nov. II Veterans Day Hov. 24 Thar'csgiving Day Dec. 25 Christmas Day �26) 9 Holidays ADDITIONAL HOLIDAYS Oct: 10 Colimbus Day Nov. 25 Day After Thanksgiving Il Total Holidays Council meetings vili be held the first and third Monday of each mon[h except February, July, August, and September vhen they vill be the second and fourth Monday and December [he thiid Monday. Conference meetings vill be held the fifth Monday of F¢bzuary and -pugust and the four[h Monday of April and June. � e CALL TO ORDER: CITY OF FRIDLEV HUMAW RESOURCES COMP1ISSION OCTOBEP, 1, 1987 r Chairnerson Sherek called the October ], 1987, Human Resources Commissinn meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. RbLL CALLi Menbers Present: Sue Sherek, Claudia Dedge, Dick Storla, Paul W.estb��, Francis van Dan Menbers Absen�: None Otliers Present: Bill Nunt, Assistant to the City P4anager Rick Pribvl, Finance Director APPROVAL f?f SEPTE116ER 17, 1987, HUMAIJ RESOURCES COt1t1ISSI0td MINUTES: MOTION BY MS. DODGE� SECONDED BY MR. WESTBY� TO APPROVE THE SEPTEMBER I7� 19R7� XUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES AS k727TT$N. UPON A VOICE VOTE� AI,L VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SHEREK DECLARED THF. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. APPROVAL OF AGENDA: MO'"ZON BY PIIi. WESTBY� SECONDED BY MS. DOUGE� TO APPROS�E THE RGENDA AS WRITTEN. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG RYE, CHAIRPERSON SXERF.K DECLARED THE Pf0'_^ION CARRZED UNANIMOUSLY. 1. OLD BUSIIIESS: a. Review City of Fridley's Data Utilization Policy Pis. Sherel: stated that at the last Meeting, '?r. Hunt had told the Cor.unission that the present data systen was under revision. She as�;ed t1r. PrSbyl to give the Commission an overview of ��ihat was happening. '1r. Pribyl stated he has heen with the �ity seven years. His previous position was Finance Officer, and in that position was responsible ror the accountinq area. He stated he had reviewed the Cor�mission's past minutes in order to faniliarize himself with the history of the data utilization policy topic, � q Hu�+4N Rl:SOURCES COHt".ISSIOH Nf:ETI�JG, ocroar_r, �, �9s� rnr� z !1r. Pribyl stated he understood that the Commission was sonewhat familiar with tHe way the City has structured, to some degree, the conputer environnent within the City, and with how the t?IS group was formed. Sonewhere in the area of 22 years ago, that particular group was formed because of what was going on within the City as tar as con- straints being put on the City and because of the fact that the vender the City was tied into was not performing the. way the City felt it should. �ir. Pribyl stated tMe City was already at a point of saturation in trying to figure out how to expand the systems they were on. The data bases (the systems thenselves) that were the topic of the Commission's conversations were never developed to the point where they were highly usable. As such, the systems kind of fell by the wayside and no one really ever used then to the degree that had been expected. So, for the last 2-22 years, a lot of the systems the City envisioned that would be sharing inforriation share probably only corimon elements of address and sone other general information. Because of that lack of developnent, things just never happened, and the I'.:S group never really assembled much. Ptr. Pribyl stated the City Planager basically put a moratorium on any equip- ment purchases until there was some direction within the City again. So, the main focus was to put some direction into where the City �ranted to go, cost effectively, and to solve most of the information problems in the city departments. There was sor^e great concern as to how to actually facilitate expansion. Eventually, the City engaged a consultant whose specialty was in both hardware and software and municipal utiliza- tion of both o` those. P1r. Pribyl stated that at this time, the City has engaged a firm, Chapel Consulting, and hopefully by Oct. 16, they will structure a comptete needs analysis that will focus on both hardware anG softviare for all departments within the �ity. 6ased on his conversations with that group, it appeared that current technology today focuses more on networl:ing of ?C's than going to utilization of mini's and mai m`rames and sharing data base information, tlhat he thought might come back fron the consultant was that there are various needs that can be more easily dealt with at the nicro level with network PC's than utilization of mini's with large shared data bases. Mr. Pribyl stated another activity he foresaw the City getting into was revitalization of the ItIS group. That definitety was a need and was postponed to date mai�ly because of the lack of direction. As of the end of October, there should be a revitalized direction again and, hope- fully, the �tIS group will come into power again to actually oversee developments of both hardware and software. One of his concerns was also voiced by the City's auditor who made the following comment on the GDP Planning Conmittee in his management letter: "The City should have an EDP Planning Cnmmittee consisting of staff person�el from various departments which meets periodically to review the City's EDP needs. Consideration should be given in the developr�ent of a written EDP p1an. A,t a minirnun, a 1-3 year � C HUHAN RESOUP.CES COHNISSIOt; M':ETI�IG, OCTQBFR 1, 1987 PRfF 3 plan should be developed and iAentify priorities, projects, training needs, and resources necessary to achieve the established objectives. Future FDP personnel, hardware� and software requirenents should be defined in the plan. The plan should be reviewed and approved by the Planning � �ommittee." !1r. Pribyl stated one of the developments, in conjunction with the conputer consultant, was that by the time the consultant finishes up his task, the City will have a five-year plan that will hopefully guide the City through the next five years as far as development, and a conplete needs analysis which,taken through completion,will hopefully bring new hardware and software into the City. It was also his desire to have the !1IS group continually update this five year plan on an annual basis so they always know where they are going. Hr. Pribyl stated another concern he noticed in the Human Resources Corenission minutes was that there be a review of what information is coningled, and what common elements can be brought into focus by one user. He stated that with the fracture-type ne�working he thought would go on, that would probably take place naturally. Qut, through sharing of information betvreen network PC's, it still might be sone- thing that could be achieved. Mr. Pribyl stated that was a synopsis of what has happened in the last 2� years. They are hoping now that as of the end of October, they will go on to develop an �FP for both hard�vare and software and carry on with the deve?opnent of their computer utilization and also the internal structure of how the City proceeds in that direction. �1r. �Jestby stated that if the City went to a multiple PC system and soneone did want to gain data on a resident in Fridley, how difficult would it be and how would the City know that soneo�e was getting more information than was needed? 4Jas there sor�e kind of check or balance or safety system that would shut the information off if too much information was being gathered? t1r. Pribyl stated he did not know what the difference between that would be from what goes on right now. It .is policy right now that if a taxpayer comes in and requests information, a staff person will query that person a little bit on why the information is needed to help safeguard: what potentially mi�ht become of thaY in:`ormation. It is sti31 public information, but the City is extrerrely concerned as to how the information will be used. !1r. Pribyl stated the City was extremely concerned about how inforeiation was used, and they also try to get an irdividual's name when a person is requesting information. They are extremely sensitive to giving out inforriation,especially �n relation to business people wanting to get lists of residents. To his knowledge, it has always been city policy that a HUHAN RESOUP.CES C0+1"1ISSI04� MFETIN6, OCTOBER 1, 1987 PAG[ 4 person is welcome to cone in and look at lists, but the City will not run copies of mailing lists or labels. Qne of his concerns aras: How far do they take that? Do they also deal with civic organizations in the same way, such as the Lions Club, Chamber of Commerce, etc,? To date, they have never really had a master list of the residences in Fridley. They do have a list of registered voters on a data base, but it is not set up to run la6els. Hr. Hunt stated they have addresses of all residences hooked up to water, but the City does not know, for example, if a residence is an apartment buitding or a single family home. They have the nane of the owner, but not the residents. P1r. Pribyl stated someone can go to the utility billing system and get that information, but that person cannot then get some other o`fshoot that deals with possibly special assessments, because they are frag- mented type systems. They do not have a tie to connect them at this tine. Dased on what he has seen happening in the computer area, he did not think they would see a large mini that would have a huge data base and the abi�ity to connect everything throug" a master inventory of addresses anymore. �1s. Sherek stated she works in data services, and she stated they are seeing what Hr. Pribyl had stated earlier--a move away from the mini's and mainframes for data base purposes. A very specific reason for that was the concern over comingled data--that so much data is able to be maintained that it could be abused by someone, particularly in the case where a lot of computers are being networked to9ether, and the ability to break into a system fron outside then hecomes greater. So, if the data is fragmented and each fragmented data is protected by a password access system, the chance of data being compromised decreases dramati- cally as you project the data at different levels and fragment the data around the systen. Mr. Pribyl stated he still felt a valid purpose for the !"IS group was that when a new system or new element to a system was recommended to be designed or loaded into the data base, one of the criteria to be investi- gated by the group would be to make sure there isn't an element there that would tend to bring together some information that someone might be able to use in a destructive means. P1r. van Dan stated he was concerned not so much with the 6reaking of the security seals, but rather the availability of ready information-- voting records, census information, etc. 4Jhat was the obligation of the municipality to share its data base with, for ins�ance, the county or the state? P1r. Pribyl stated it depended upon the usage of the eleMents that are in the data base. If by statute there was sor�e control, the City had no recourse but to give out the eler�ents requested. If it was a matter � e HU11AN RESOl1RC�S Ca�+.MI5SI0Pl MEETIP�G, OCTOBER 1, 1987 PA(?E 5 of convenience, then the City had some control over it. He felt thc City would be very reluctant to give up information that does not seen to be under a statutory control of the State or Federal government unless there was some facilitating that would assist the City in some way. But, even at that, there would be a large degree of concern,and investi- gation into what the potential outcome might be of that sharing of information. t1s. Sherek stated that when soMeone comes into City Hall to any of the people at the front desks and asY.s for information, to whom was that person referred? Mr. ffunt stated that,technically, the person was referred to the City Hanager's office, but there was no designated person or persons at tiiis tine. He stated there really has not been a problem, because it does not happen very often. 11r. Pribyt stated there have not really been people coning in, other than salespeople who come in trying to get massive anounts of data. Since there was no labeling function anyway, and the fact that the person requesting the information must write down all the inforr�ation, it was discouraging to ther�. fven if the City had that mailing list capability, they would not release that information, and that was city policy. �, Mr. Pribyl stated he applauded the Commission's concerns. He wanted the Conmission to be aware that the City was extremely sensitive to the giving out of information. Within his department, any tirne there is a request for information regarding tax purposes, that request is referred directly to him and he tries to handle it in the best way possible. "1r. Hunt asked if Hr. Pribyl had any ohjection to the wording of the policy recommendation made by the Commission in December 1�II5. f1r. Pri5y1 stated he did not have any objections to it. 4e v+as in favor of a clear policy as far as the types of information that can be released and in what forr.i. 7he only thing he wou7d question was where that responsibility might land as far as a central location. Ms. Sherek stated the central location in decentralized organizations did not always have to be a single person. It can be a designated person within each departMent. Sometimes it might not even be the depart- ment head but a manageriat person who wauld know enough to bring any request or concern to the attention of the department head or City Itanager. � Ms. Sherek stated the big concern she had regarding a central location or a designated person was that in dealing with City Hall, there are a lot of tines duri�g the year when there are a lot of very young people working at City Hall answering phones, etc. A lot of things could happen without these people realizing the types of ramifications if they felt they had the right to release information without consulting soneone. a HU�tAN RESOURCES CONMISSIOP� PIEETING, DCTOBEC 1;°1487 �-•�--�°; �~�- PP,GG E P1s. Sherek stated she felt that for data base management, a review by a cor�r�ittee was sometimes no review at all and it was often better to have a person responsible for the review. As was being done where she works, when things exceed a certain level or more elements are being added or bases are being integrated, then that was brought 4o the committee; otherwise things were handled by one person who had the responsibility for data base management. The Commission members reviewed the policy recommendation with !".r. Pribyl and h1r. Hunt and made some minor revisions. Hr. Storla stated that if a handicapped person whose name and address was identified for fire prevention purposes wished to have his/her name reMOVed from that list, could that be done? He stated many handicapped people probably do not even know there is such a list. They should know about it and have the option of having their names removed if they so choose. t1r. liunt stated he did not know tfie answer to that, but he would certainly try to find out. iM1s. Sherek stated the answer to that question in general terms was that if an element of data on an individual is not required by some statute to be maintained, the individual has the right to request that data to be removed. �1r. Pribyl stated he could assure Mr. Storla and the Commission members that the information or data kept on people on systems at the City were not extraneous to activities that are being done. Elements such as handicapped information exists on the fire system only for the safety of those individuals. The City was very particular about what they put on the system. !1s. Sherek stated she fett the idea of a policy couering the eleMents in a data base becomes reat critical when you start putting data bases out on PC's, particularly if the software is the "user friendly" type of software that is very common now where people can go in and add data elements to a data base ther�selves. It should be nade clear in each department of the city that they cannot just start adding data and that any changes being made to the standard data bases are first subject to policy review. Mr. Hunt atated one thing that was difficult was trying to purge information already on the system, because according to the Data Practices Act, once that information is there, it must be kept forever. They are now trying to get permission to get rid of sor�e information. 11s. Sherek stated it seemed to her that one of the changes in the Data Practices Act last year was the right to remove elements not specifically � HUIIAN RESOURCES COMt1ISSI�tJ HEETING, OCTOBER 1, 1987 PA6E 7 required by the Data Practices Act. She did not know if that change passed or not; but if it did, it might be a good time to get rid of the elements the City did not need, especially during the chan9eover of the system. Mr. Pribyl stated that on financial applications, just because of the space requirements, there is a natural purging process that goes on every year. There was no purging process right now for the unified data base,because it was not being used to the extent they thought it would be. The purging of data should Ae something that was addressed by the MIS group after the new process was completed. Mr. Pribyl stated.it was his understanding that on Oct. 6, the City �iill receive the needs analysis and that will basicatly direct the hardware and software. The City Council will re��iew that and based on their reaction to it will either pursue the second phase of the study or terminate at that point in time. If they proceed into the second phase which was the development of the 2FP for both hardware and soft- ware, by January/February they will be reviewing some of the systems in the hardware and possi6ly sometime in June procure hardware. Part of this process will also include the remodeling of City Hall. 61s. Sherek thanked t1r. Pribyl for coming and sharing this information with the Commission. MOTION BY MR, STORLA, SECONDED BY MS. DOBGE� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF TFfE FOLLOWING POLICY RECOMMENDATION AS REVISED AT THE OCT. pCT. Z� 2987, HUMRN RESOURCES COMMISSZON MEETING: "RS CZTY STAFF IS REVIEWING ITS ENTZRE MRNAGEMENT INFORMATZON SYSTEM� THF, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MAXES TNE FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THE MUNICIPAL DATA BASES� THE DEPARTDfENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY DATA BASE� AND ANY OTHER DATA BASES THAT MAY BE UNDER THE COP7TROL OF THE CITY OF FRIDLEY: R. TNAT THE CITY'S MANRGEMENT INFORMATION COMMITTEF. GZYE HIGH PRIORITY TO ITS FUNCTION AS AN INTERNAL POLICY REVZEW BOARD. B. THAT THE FUNCTIONS OF TNE POLICY REVIEW BOARD INCLUDE: (2) DEVELOPING WRITTEN CRITERIA FOR RDDI?IONS TO� OR .RETENTZON OF� DATA ELEMENTS IN TNE DATA BASES. THE CRITfiRIA SHOULD CONSIDER NOT ONLY THE POTENTIAL EFFECT OF NEW DRTA ACCUMULATED, BUT ITS POTENTZAL IMPACT WHEN COMBINED WITH OTHER DATA ELEMENTS� ALRERDY IN ANY DATA BASE. ON A SCHEDULED PERIODIC BASIS, ALL THE ELEMENTS IN THE DATA $ASES SNOULD BE REVIEWED IN LIGHT OF THE ESTABLZSHED CRITERIA . �. HU►lAN RESOURCES C0�1F1ISSICM !+[ETIt+G, OCi'OBEE 1, 1987 PAGE 8 (2J RF,QUZRING A CLEAR WRITTEN STATEMEN?' OF PURPOSE FROM THOSE REQUESTING THE ADDITION OF ELEMENTS TO THE DATA BASES. (3J DEVEIAPING A CLEAR AND CONSISTENT POLICY FOR � RELEASING INFORMATION REQUESTED. CONSIDERATION SXOULD BE GIVEN TO VESTING THE RESPONSIBILITY OF ADDRESSING REQUESTS FOR INFORMATIDN IN A CENTRRL LOCRTION WITHIN THE CITY. (4) SEGRECRTZNG POTENTIALLY SENSITIVF, DATR ON SINGLF, pURPOSE DATR BASES, MICRO-COMPUTERS��OR OTXER RECORDS." UPON A VOICE YOTE, RLL VOTING RYE, CHRIXPERSON SHF.REK DECLARED THF. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. . 2. N�u Busir��ss: a. Review 4lorkplan and Schedule Ms. Dodge stated she would have a guest speaker at the Plov. 5 meeting to talk about adult literacy. ADJOURNh1ENT: MOTZON BY MS. DOIGE, SECONDED BY MR. WF:STBY� TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. UPON A VOICE VOTE, RLL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON SHEREK DECLARED THF, OCTOBER I� 1987� HUfAAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED RT 8:38 P,M. Respectfully submitted, Lynn Saba Recording Secretary CITY OF FRIDLCY HOUSIP�G & R[DEVELOPNEP�T AUTHORITY !!EETING, OCTOE3ER 8, 1987 CALL TO OP,DER: Chairperson Commers called the October 8, 1987, Housing & P.edevelopment Autharity meeting to order at 7:20 p.ra. ROLL CALL: Plenbers Present: Larry Conmers, Virginia Schnabel, Duane Prairie, John �'eyer �1enbers Absent: 4lalter Rasmussen Others Present: Jock Robertson, HRA Director Dave `lewman, HRA Attorney P,ick Pribyl, Finance Director �ohn Flora, Public 4Jorks Director "4ark f3urch, Asst. Public llorks Director Gerald Sunde, Sunde Fngineering Louis fl June Lundgren, 343 East Y,ello99 alvd., St. Paul Bill & Jim Nicklow, Shorewood, Inc. Barry llarner, Barton-Aschman David Pillatzke, S.C.H. David �;arzala, Barton-Aschman Ron Bowen, Prairie i'estorations APPP,OVAL Of SEPTECBER 10, 1987, HOUSIt;f &�CDE`.'ELO�"`.:lT Al!THOf?ITY !'If!UTES: MOTZON BY f1S. SCHNABEL� SECONDED BY MR. PRAIR?E� TO APPF'-OVE THE SEPT. I0� I987, HOi1SING 6 REDEVELOPAfEN2 AUTXORITY MZNUTES AS Wf'ITTF,P?. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTZNG AYE, CHAIRPERSON COP9MERS DF.CLARF,D THE MOTION CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY, 1. CONSIDERATIOP� OF LOU LU"IDGR�PI'S L�TTER OF CR[DIT: t1r. Lundgren stated he was in the process of trying to get a finalized commitr�ent for the first phase of the project (the apartments) from a life insurance cor�pany, Union Life, located in Ylashington D.C. There are some snags in this particular case. In answer to the question raised several times by the HRA as to how they could help him, he was goin9 to ask for sone help from the HRA at this time, P1r. Lundgren stated he has sent a fairly complete package to Union Life and they have indicated they want to do the joh, fie had hoped to get the loan officer to come here for a site inspection this week, but was unsuccess- ful in getting her here. �1r. Lundgren stated the loan officer is insisting that they need to have land control of sor�e kind prior to the time of the legal process, and she really wants the City to own the la�d. Of course, the HRA does own half HOUSIPIG & REDEVELOP�IE�lT AUTHOP.ITY NEET:PIG, OCT06ER 8, 1987 P",GC 2 of the land that is needed for the project, and the other portion is owned by Nr. Levy. He stated he had suggested to the l�an officer that perhaps the conpany would accept an option from the City if the City had an option on the portion of the land they do not own. The portion of land they are talking about is vacant and does not have any tenants or leases, Mr. Lundgren stated that when he �ad talked to "".r. Robertson last week, i± was suggested that maybe someone from City Staff or the City Rttorney could make a phone call to Union Life to try to assure them that if the City chose to give them an option, that the City has the right of condemnation and can follow through, that that might be enough. He felt it was certainly worth a try, t1r. Lurrdgren stated he had asked the loan officer to tell him if the company did not want to do the project, and she had said they were definitely interested in doing the project 6ut this was just a rule the company had, "1r. Prairie asf:ed if P!r. Lundgren had any written correspondence from linion Life or was this a11 verbal conversations? t"r. Lundgren stated he had only notes from his telephone conversations. He had hoped to have a letter of intent from the company, but the loan officer will not even write that until they have land control. "1r. Cor�mers stated this was a very unusual requirement, and he did not know why the company was so concerned about that. Ne asked A1r, tiewman what the HRA's conmitment was under the original developr�ent agreement they had with "1r. Lundgren as to when they would commit to land control. �tr. Nev+man stated the agreement was signed in approximately June 1986, and the HRA had to tender title to P1r. Lundgren by September. The agreement was set up in such a way that once certain financing was in place, it gave the HR1� about 120 days to acquire title. There was 15 days to negotiate, and if they couldn't negotiate, they could proceed with the quick take. P1r. Lundgren stated another thing he recalled in the agreement was that it stated that the HRA, if necessary, would use the right of condemnation. P1aybe the City could ca'.1 Union Life and find out if they are or are not serious and find out what the minir�um is the company will take and then evaluate whether or not the HRA would go along with it. f1r. P�ewman stated he had a certain amount of concern about putting anything in writing ahout the City using the right of condemnation on property, simply beause it kind of falls in line with threatening to take land away from the owner of that property, lie stated he did not, however, have any objec- tion to makeing a phone call to Union Life if it would help t'r. Lundgren. P7r. Commers stated i.t has always been the HRA°s policy that they are not in the position to turn over the control of the land until they knovJ a project is in place and is prepared to go ahead. Under any circumstances, they generally have the power to take that property, either by purchase or by condemnation, but they generally have always been able to purchase the property. HOUSING & REDEUELOP�±FPJT AUTHORITY �1F.F.TI�If, OCTOB[P� 8, 1987 P11GF 3 1ir. Newman suggested the possibility of giving Nr. Lundgren 30 days exclu- sive period of time in order to develop the property. �"r. Qureshi and P1r. Robertson have indicated they do not want to lock up the property until a developer comes forward with firm financing, but maybe they could do it for just a limited amount of time. ' t1r. Lundgren stated he did not think 30 days would suffice. "!r. Commers stated he did not think they were in any position of negotiating or trying to put a financing package together, but he did not think it was out of line for Staff to make a call to Union Life to see if there was any confort they could give the company regarding this project. t1r. Conmers asked what had happened with the ?ow7e Cor�pany. Hr. Lundgren stated there were three possibilities, but now two of them are out. ?he one that is left is a life company which still has his package but has not responded back. �ir. Conmers asked t1r. �undgren if he was still dealing with RothschiTd, t"r. Lundgren stated he �vas still dealing with Rothschild. He stated the main problem was forward commitments, Staff agreed to make a telephone call to Union Life to see if the fit;� could give the company some reassurance regarding the apartment project. "?r, Conmers thanked Hr. Lundgren for coming. Plo action was taken on �1r. Lundgren'S letter of credit, and the item renained on the table. 2. COtISIDERATIOP! OF M01JIf�G A�ID TRCE REPLIICEHEP�T COSTS ON PASCHY.� PCOPCf?TI!"S: h9r. Ro6ertson stated that the remaining $10,000 payr�ent on this project was withheld pending the completion of the pond. .At a previous meeting, the HRA authorized Staff to proceed to get the pond and the weir finished. The total cost for improvements to the storm olater detentiun pond, the engineering costs, and the maintenance costs for mowing were �4,980, leaving 35,020 left. �1r. Paschke has indicated he is unwilling to perform the maintenance as required under the development agreement. Subsequently, the City has noticed there are several dead shrubs. The agreement required h1r. Paschke to submit a landscape plan which �!r. Paschke never did. �4r. Robertson stated it vras the Staff's recorxnendation that rather than forwarding the remaining money to t1r. Paschke, the r�oney be set up in a contract with someone for the maintenance of thr pond and, if necessary, to replace the dead landscaping. He stated he could not give the NRA a dollar amount on that at this time, but they were under the impression that "!r, Paschke might be selling off some of his property and maybe the new owner would be willing to abide by city code. HO!15ING & REDEUELONENT AUTHORITY �iF.ETIP�G OCT06ER 8, i987 P^.G� 4 P1r. Commers asked if there was an agreement of record so that anyone buying the property will know there are certain terms and conditions of that agreement. !1r. Newman stated he did not recall specifica1ly, but in the series of agree- ments that were prepared with P!r. Paschke, drafted by 0'Connor & Hannan, there vaas a provision that the agreement not be recorded. P1r. Commers asked how they could transmit to a new 6uyer the knowledge that he/she would have an obligation to maintain the pond, Mr. Burch stated that by city code, the weeds have to be maintained, but at a much longer length than what they are requiring for the ponding. They are as4:ing P'r. Paschke to keep the v+eeds at under 3 inches. There is nothing in the code that addresses the maintenance of detention ponds. Mr. Burch stated ponds are installed as part o` the drainage plans and agreements when buildings are built. !is. Schnabel stated there should be something written in the city code that addresses the maintenance of detention ponds and so that it will ensure that whenever there is a change in ownership, the new owner knoats that eiaintenance needs to be done. Mr. Burch stated it might be a good idea to have something in the code that would deal specifically with storm water detention pond maintenance, because it has become a probler� for the City, MOTION BY MR. MF,YER� SECONDED BY MR. PRAIRIE, TO PAY THE $4,980 FOR STORM WATER DETENTION POND IMPROVEMENTS, F,NGINEERING COSTS� AND MAINTENANC6 COSTS FOR MOGTING, BUS TO HDLD THE REMAINING 55,020 FOR FURTHF,R P1AIl7TENANCE OF TNF DETENTION POND, UPON A VOICE UOSE� ALL VOTING AYE� CNAZRPERSON COr1MERS DECLARED THE MOT70N CARRIED UNANIFSOUSLY. MOTION BY MS. SCHNAB£.L, SECONDED BY MR. PRAIRIE, TO ASK THP PLANNING COMMISSION TO TAKE A LOOK AT INCLUDING IN THE ZONZNG ORDINANCE SOMF, RF,�UIRE- MENT REGARDING TNE MAINTENANCE OF SSORM 67ATER DETENTION PONDS. UPON A VOICE VDTE� ALL VOTZNG RYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE MOTIOT,' CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 3. f.0�lSIDERATIO�! OF A SGCOPID �10RTGAGE TO SH^f',E4JOOD, IMC.: t1r. Robertson stated the remodeling and the addition to Shorewood was essentially completed. Ne had spoken to Darrel Clark, Chief Building Inspector, who said there were only some items that needed to be cor�pleted, and that was the handicapped access ramp and the smoke and fire detectors. "1r. Clark's reconmendation was that the development contract and the loan not be carried forward until those items are completed; however, he noted HOUSIMG & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHO�ITY MEETING, OCTOBEC 8, 1987 PAGF. 5 that if there was some delay because of items having to be backordered, he would then recommend that the HRA direct the Staff to prepare the loan documents for closing and require a bond or a check to be held in escrow for the uncompleted items that are on backorder in the amount of twice the estimated cost. - Pir. Bill ��icklow stated that these items would cost about 44,5Q0-4,a00 at the most. The ramp has been ordered and has not yet been installed. He stated the reason for the delay was that the location of the ramp was changed. He stated :here was no question that these ite�s would be done, and they have no prohlem with �!r. Clark's recommendation. Nr. Jim Nicklow stated the fire and smoke detectors were installed last week and the ramp would be completed the following week. MOTION BY MR. PRAIRIE, S$CONDED BY MS. SCHNAAfiL, TO AUTNORIZE THF RF.LFASE OF FUNDS TO SHOREWOOD� INC., BUT TO AUTHORIZE THE HRR SXEC[ITIVF. DSRECTOR TO XOLD BACX AN AMOUNT SUFFICIENT TO COVEH RNY WOR.K THAT IS NOT COMPLETED. UPON A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON COMMF,RS DECLARF.D THE PfOTION CRRRZED UNANZMOUSLY. 4, COIISIDERATIC^l OF CHAPIG!" ORDERS TO S.LH, FOR PPEVIOUSLY lIUTHORIZED 110R! : "".r. .:obertson stated that at the April 1987 meetina, he had forwarded to the NC,'1 a nemo fror� John Flora indicating that in the previous contract t!±e !�nn had approved for S.[.N, to begin design �aorl: for the intersection o` "' 65 and "loore Lake Drive and Lake ?ointe Drive, the HRA had ordered an additional �2Q,000 worth of work. At that tine. S.�.H. was also cor�ing in v+ith landscape modifications for $°,OQ^. Cue to an error, he had not nade it clear that he was formally requested that the HEA approve the 320,000 of work w�ich was previously authorized, plus the ?P„!?CQ. '":r. Robertson stated that what �aas before the HRA at this meeting was the final amount of that work. Rather than the R20,Onn that was estimated in April, the finai amount was 325,131.61. On page 4-A or the I'.".�. agenda, that total arnount appeared as part of ttvo separate work contracts. 'he additional work included the modification of plans, overhead signing, attending puFlic hearings, also sor�e specifications for garage modifications and land surveys for easements. ?hese added up to the dif`erence between >2^,�0� anc' �z5,131.61,. 190TZON SY l4R, MF.YF.R, S£.COfIDED BY MS. SCHNABF.L� TO APPROVE THS CHANGE OP.DF,R TO S.F..H. FOR PREVIOUSLY AUTHORZZF•D WORK AS Oi�t"LINFD ISd THF. LF,TTF,R TO JOCK ROBERTSON DATF.D OCT. 1� 1987� FROM DAVID PILLATZKE OF S.E.H. UPQN A VOICE VOTF., ALL VOTTNG AYE� CHAIRPFRSOA? COI�MFRS DECLARED THF, MOTZOP? CARRIED UNANINOi7SLY. t1r. Rohertson stated the second item under this agenda item was that in ,9ugust S.�.N. pi•esented an estinate of work for the Gice Creek Coad improve- ments. The City Council had directed that the work on HCUSI!!f, & REDEVELQPHENT A�J?HORITY �!�E'It7G, OCT06ER 8, 19£37 �".�C 5 connection between TH 65 and Old Central be expedited as quickly as possible so that the link could be completed brfore or at the same time as the in±er- section of Lake Pointe Drive and ?H 65, so the extra tra'fic would not be diverted onto Cld Central by N.00re Lake. In ^ugust, the City received an estimate from S.E.H. for that work. the final plan and specifications no*. to exceed $52,500, and construction-related services estirtated to be 550,5�^. "".r. Robertson stated this was brought to the f,or�mission as an information item as these nunbers were approved by the H;?;4 at their .4ugust meeting. The actual contract documents have now been prepared, the numbers are the sar,ie, and the documents are ready for the HRA Chairperson's signature. 5. CD�;SIDERATIOW OF CRA"1PT0."J REQUFST F01? 47/lP�[!' 0� SECO.".0 MOf?TGAfiE 06LI5AT?OfJS: "r. Conmers asl;ed what Staff's recor�mendation was regarding !".r. Crampton's request. '1r. ^;eviman stated he did not I:now the source o° funding for this program. He had alerted Staff to check to see whether or not there were any provisions with that progran that �,�ould cause any prohler�s. Staff has reviewed thP files, and the files are not very complete, but they cannot find any restric- tions. In essence, the letter he had written to the City a year ago recom- mending that the HRA deny this same request was still valid. '"r. Ne�vman stated he �-�as not sure what kind of down payment t"r. Cramp±on made. If he made zero down payment and is requesting that he now receive t'^n equity and the note to be fargiven, then ".r. "ewman stated he would have some legal problens with that concept. Perhaps the way to look at it was to determine what his down payment was, what the ',ity spent, and allocate the equity on a pro rata hasis. Mr. Newman stated he was not involved in this when it was originally dra°ted, and he could only speculate on the H2A's intention but he thought it was to encourage first-time home huyers to come into the cor�munity, and if the $10,000 vias then to be forgiven, they wanted these people to be in the coctimunity for a certain period ofi time, wantefl their chi',dren enrolled in the Fridley schools, etc. ',ir. Cor�mers stated there were two programs at that time--one was the rehabili- tation program and one was the large fami�y program that was intended to provide down payments for people who could not othe noise afford to buy a hone, and it vdas to encourage them and bring ther� into the connunity. It �vas his recollection that both these prograr�s were federally funded, and he felt they were fairly successful prograMS. It was certainly never the H"?,'s intention that they were totally going to wall; a�•iay from this and give up the equity. The idea was to recapture those funds and re-use them for soneone else. "1r. tlewman stated that in referring to the terms of the 1!ortgage P:ote (agenda page 5-B), it indicated that if the home ovmer-is.going to sell the property, the HRA would have the first option to buy the property bacl:. HOUSIt�G & REDEVELOPNEPIT AUTHORITY �1EETItlG, OCl'06ER 8, 1987 pn,rr � F7r. Robertson stated it had been his first reaction to recommend that the HRA not do anything regarding '"r. Crampton's request. t4r. Ne�rman stated Staff felt they should come to the lif',A first for some sense of direction as to whether or not the Hf;A was interested Yn doing anything on this request. It certainly does constitute a deviation fror� what he understood the HP,A's original intent to be. I° the HRR decided to act on t"r. Crampton's request, then they would be setting a precedent that might then be available to other buyers of similar hor�es. ""r. Prairie stated it was his opinion to not do anything at this tiMe. Hs.Schnabe? stated maybe they shoulC be considering the possibility of having the homeowner pay back the money on a pro-rated basis. !laybe *hey should be re-revie�aing their thinl:ing in case there are real hardships invoTved. In �ir. Crampton's ietter, he does not indicate a concrete reason for the HRA to let him go, but there could he o±her cases where there will be real valid hardships. 'fr. t�evrman agreed, but that in this case, if thev do a pro rata on the lennth of the note and forgive the balance of the note,+P1r. Cramptan is still aoino to owe $5,00�. �1r. Coraners stated they should find out what the assessed value was on this property. '1r. Prairie stated if there was a real hardship case, r�aybe the Cor�mission should take that into consideration. !9s. Schnabel stated she would like Staff to do some research and find out what federal program this was, what the federal guidelines were for the progran, and explore the concept of possi6ly forgiving a partial amount of the payr�ent in the case of a hardship, but still have the owner pay back whatever is left. !:h. Commers stated the Commission should also be avrare of how many other hones were done on this program. ""s. Schnabel stated if the intent of the program was to get a piece of property developed, bring new people into the conr�unity, and the program has done that and the homeowners have been there for 5-6 years and are now ready to move on, mayhe the NRA should look a± the program again and possibly turn it over to another family under the same circumstances. �laybe the !1!?/l cannot do that, but they should l;now whether or not they can, P1r. Newman stated that the estimated market value �er the City Assessor was $67,700. Assuming that the es*imated market value was at 95�o, the fair market value would be S%1,263. The NBA nenbers agreed that at this time, they would not take any action on `ir. Crampton's request, and that Staff be directed to research those items outlined in the above discussion. HOUSIfIG & REDEVELOPMFNT AUTHORITY t1EETITJG, OCTOBFR 8, 1987 FAG� 8 6. CONSIDCRATIC�! OF CHAP�GE ORDEP.S FOR LP.KE POINTE CORPORATE CENT�R: a. Subterranean Engineering Mr. Robertson stated that although they had asked that Subte,rranean have the change orders to the City no later than Tuesday morning of this week, the f,ity did not receive that information until the day of this meeting. Since Staff had not had an opportunity to review the information, Staff would recoMmend.that consideration of this change order be held over until the tlovenber meeting. b. Enebak Construction (Change �rder �;o. 5) '"r. Sunde stated Change Order No. 3 was prepared to proviAe for the payment to Cnebak for the mining of sands on site that would be used in the building pad areas. At that time, they estimated 35,^0(� cu. yds of sand would be required for borro4i. Change !?rder Plo. 5 for 53,110 cu. yds. was tne result of the final r�easurement of the bor.row area of that mining area. MOTION BY MR. MEYER� SECONDED BY MS. SCHNAAF.L, TO APPROVE CHANGR ORDF.R NO. 5'!'O ENEBRK CONSTRUCTION COMPANY IN THE AMOUNT OF $22�637.50. UPON A VOICF, VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CNAIRPEP.SON COM14ER5 DECLARFD THF. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. c. H & S Asphalt MOTION BY MS. SCHNABF,L, SF,CONDED BY MR. MEYER, TO APPROVE THF, H 6 S ASPHALT CHANGF. ORDER IN SHF, AMOUNT OF $2,460. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON COMMF,RS DECLARF,D THF. MOTION CARRIEP UNANIMOiJSLY. d. Park Construction Mr. Newman stated that at the last meeting, !ir. Robertson informed the fiRA that a change order would be forthconing from ParY. Construction. The HRA did not have the infornation at that meeting, and the change order for g5,820 was brought to the City Council who approved it. l�s the HRA rer�embered, because the City Council me�ts more frequently than the N4;A, last spring the HRA authorized Staff to take change orders to the City Council, provided the dollar arnount did not exceed a certain amount. and that the k',RA th.en he informed of all change orders. This was an information item cnly as the City Council did approve this change order, e. Bikeway/41alY.way Path P1r. Robertson stated that at this meeting, the HRI! had received some correspondence between Mark Burch and Jon McClure of lJoodhri�ne Properties concerning an error or miscommunication made on the location HOUSIPJG & P.EDEVELOP""EPIT AUTHORITY HEETING, OCTOGER S, 1987 PAGE 3 of part of the bikeway/walkway last summer before they were under contract with the City. This error was only recently uncovered, and it was relatively cheaper to deal with the location now before the detention pond and the retaining wall are completed on the site. Once those were done accordinq to the present grading nlans, Woodbridae's pr,eferred location of the bikeViay/walkway path would be virtually impossible to achieve. Mr. �lewman stated it was Staff's recommendation that the HRA not accept tloodbridge's chan9e since they were unwilling to pay for it and that the bikewa,y/walkway path be instal]ed as indicated on Sunde Engineering's plans. The City was comfortable with the location as it stands right now. �1r. P,obertson stated that although it was Woodbridae's desire to have the bikeway/walkway on the :aest side rather than on ine east side, they did not wish to pey for all or half of the cost. At this tir��e, that could be achieved fairly easily at about a 54,000 total cost. If the NRA a9rees not to make any changes, the construction of the retainin� wall and detention pond prevents the 6ikeway/walkway from being easily moved. ""r, Commers stated that the record should reflect that the HRA r�embers were in agreeeient to direct Staff to proceed with the plans for the bike- way/walkway as originally designed by the project engineer, Sunde Engineering, on the east side of the development. g. IPlFORMATIOPI 0�� UtII!�ERSI?Y .A!�FNI!E CORR:DOP. PLAPJ: Mr. Robertson stated representatives fron Sarton-,1schman were at the meeting to give a brief update on the University 1lvenue f,orridor Plan and to discuss the concept of prairie flowers and prairie grasses. Staff will bring back a recor�mendation to the I�RA at the next meetino. t1r. Barry llarner, Barton-llschman introduced "'r. Dave 4larzala, 11ead of the Civil Engineering Section, and P,on Bowen fron Prairie Restarations. "1r. 4Jarner stated he would like to talk to the Commission about three things: (1) an update on where Barton-Aschman �s with the design concepts for the intersections and corridor landscaping (2) share with the HRA the concept of prairie plantings (3) talk about the financial inplications of the other improvements t1r. llarner stated that in the past two months, they have had an oppor- tunity to look at the concepts that were previously generated and to apply those,given some additional engineering information (topogra�hy, utilities, terrain radiuses, etc.), and have reviewed the fntersection concepts commensorate with that material, yet keeping the same concept. As a result of this, they have had a greater opportunity to understand the implications of impler�enting this concept to the rural section. Cne thing that came to mind was that in the rural section where thPy have the drainage swails, the culverts have to be extended to compensate for putting in the bus shelters and patron areas and fill introduced into it. That is so+�ething that can be accomnodated but it does cost more money. NOUSIMG & REDE�'ELOPt?[TIT AUTHOP.ITY HEETIPIG, OCTOBF.1' 8, 1987 P^GE 10 P1r. 6larner stated all four of the intersections will include the follow- ing elements: (1) brick paving at the radius points including the median (2) abutting landscaping, both shrubs and upper story �rees (3) bus patron loading areas (sidewalk that surrounds a land- scaped raised planter to serve as an 18 inch seating wall for patrons on a nice day. There are shelters in a majority of the intersections for inclement weather.) (4) any type of ground cover--prairie grass or some other r�ediun P1r, llarner stated they have discussed at length as a part of their previous work the median treatment; and, as he understood it, in the HRA's subsequent discussions, they chose to pursue the prairie treatment. That was the reason he had asked P?r. Qowen to come to the meeting. t1r. Eowen was fron Prairie Restorations, which was a regional organiza- tion that deals in the implementation of prairies, '".r. Powen has a6out 10 years experience in prairies. �1r. Bowen had brought along some slides to help the H(:A decide whether prairie provides the identity tfiat Fridley is looking for, the maintenance implications, and how long it ta{:es to get the prairie established. t1s. Schnabel stated that regarding the 18 inch raised planter, she wondered if this had been discussed and approved. She stated her concern again was maintenance, what type of plantings would be put into the planter, and the continued maintenance of it. So many planters are not r�aintained and they look awful. ;1r. Warner agreeG. As discussed before, the City will have to take on the naintenance of the improver�ents if, in fact, they want to do sor�e of these urban design improvements. Another viable option would be for that to just be a cut-out area for grass. It would lessen the expense and lessen the maintenance. 11s. Schnabel stated she was getting more and more concerned as they get into this about the City's commitment to maintenance. In the tivinter- tine, what is the City's commitment going to be as far as shoveling snow, for example, at the intersections? F1r. Robertson stated this has been discussed with John flora and the Engineering Dept. and since they have the snow blowers out at the inter- sections anyway, this does not seem to be a problen. fir. Ron Booien stated the maintenance aspect of the landscaping is a very relevant topic. If they are going to go ahead and do any land- scaping, whether it is traditional landscaping or natural landscaping, there will still be maintenance. He would hope there is some folloo-r-up with maintenance, not just for the first year, but on a perpetual basis in maintaining these plant communities. �ven if they plant prairie, HOUSI�lG & REDEV[LOP�'ENT AUTHORIT� �!F.ETIP;G, OCTOB[E 8, 1987 PAGf. 11 it should be thought of as a plant community and something that has a 7ot of inter-related parts and needs a fair amount of attention to make sure all the parts are working right. P1r. Bowen stated Fridley has sand so they are tall:ing mostl� abou+. short prairie grasses. That fits in very well with the visibility factors, business frontages, etc., but they do want some color and wo�'� try to establish wild flowers as a visible•and good identity factor -��r the Corridor. The idea of wildflowers and prairie are very muc on the increase. There was a Tot of interest and support for it. !1r. Bowen stated he would like to show the Commissioners some siides of the kind of prairie he was talking about for the Corridor area. "!r. Eowen stated, again, basically, they wou7d want to concentrate mostly on short prairie grasses and a lot of wild floviers. In a few areas where they get farther up Highway 47 and the conmunity becomes a little raore rural and the median becones bigger, they could get down in the middle of the median and do a little bit of taTl prairie. Tall prairie was a very attractive plant community. !1r. Bowen stated a prairie plant community, grasses and flowers mixed, was very much like a forr_st. Just like there are a lot of different kinds ofi .forests, there are a lot of different kinds o' prairies. F,stablishing a prairie was a fairly slotia process and within the firs± year or so, the plants are nostly working on root development. P.s time goes on, thr. plants start to do their above ground growing. During the first year, they mow the plantings usually about fi inches high. "!r. Bowen stated education to the community was anot"er important aspect in this process, It was very important to let the pu6]9c know what is going on, that it is a slow process, but that it gets better with tir!e. t1r. 4larner stated that in looking at the pros and cons of prairie grasses, they could group the questions into five different areas: 1. Does this meet the community'S objective of having a unique identity within the Corridor? 2. Does it meet the iMage they want to portray within the community? 3. How do they treat the abutting properties? 4. How do they impsement this or construct this? What is the period of time before it is mature and looking good? 5. b�hat will the ongoing maintenance be? 5 t HOUSIPlf & REDEVELOP�?ENT AUTHORITY MEETING, OCTC4FP. 8, 1987 P,�GC 12 i !1r. Warner stated that regarding question �5, one of the ways to accomplish that was to put intense flowers within the median, both in urban and rural sections, and allow the areas between the side of the road and the right of way to be short prairie grass. For thase abutting properties that wish to have a manicured Kentuck,y Blue Grass, there would be a lesser contrast than if they had high prairie and intense flower prairie antl then the Blue Grass. Ms. Schnabel stated that at .one time, it seemed the HRA had talked about having some trees or shrubs in the medians in addition to the wild flowers. !1r. Warner stated the recommendation that was carried to them for further examination was prairie flowers in the median or possibly within the entire right of way and then using a Jersey barrier to protect trees near the intersection. He would recommend against the trees with a �ersey barrier if they are going to use the prairie, Aesthetically and even functionally, there was such a dramatic contrast between a very ur6an rigid barrier and the prairie that the two just do not work well together. P1r. 67arner stated that by the very nature of the prairie, they could cater the species selection to the area and to the s9tuation, so here where they want to get color throughout the growing season, that could be accomplished. Although it was not naintenance-free, it has the capability of havi�g reduced Maintenance. It also gives a very strong identity to the community. Nr. 4larner stated the HRA, as the decision makers, need to assess ag��in the aspect of whether the visual quality of this was something they want to reflect in Fridley. In the other landscape aspects of this (trees, shrubs, etc.�, Barton-Aschman can certainly complement the prairie very nicely and r�ake it work so it is very attractive and so it would provide a very strong corridor image. It can also be made to work with the brick in a very handsor�e r�anner. ttr. 8or�en stated that if the Conmission wanted to explore this further, there were plantings similar to what they would use in Fridley that could qive the Commission some good ideas. fort Snelling was a good example. They could also talk with some other people about the way prairie has worked for them. P1r. Robertson stated they have talked with the consultant about public information and an idea would be that as part of the hard surface treat- ment, either at the corners or at the nose where people will be walking across at the crosswalks, putting up an attractive sign giving a brief description of the prairie and wild flower treatment, �1r. 4Jarner stated the other aspect of this presentation was the Summary of Improvement Costs for the University P.venue Corridor. These were bro{:en down inta three specific categories: HOUSINf & REDE!�ELOPMCNT AUTHORITY HEFTI��G, OCTOBFR 8, 1987 PAf,� 13 1. (A-D) Intersection urban design improver�ents (bricks, curbs, concrete, and landscaping) 2. (E-F) Corridor landscape improvements (landscaping and prairie grass improvements between 57th and 61st and 73rd and Osborne 3. (G-J) Traffic signal improvements (including traffic signals, signing and lighting) P1r. 67arner stated that in previous conversations with Staff, it was brought out that there was the potential for sone traffic signal improvements. One of the reasons that came about was that when they studied in a more detailed nature the putting of the brick at the radius, it was noted that the foundations for the traffic signal poles were low and if they put bricks abutting them, they wouid have to be raised, That spurred on a number of other cor�ments about the inadequacy of the traffic signals. For each one of the items (A - J), in subsequent pages they had provided a 6reakdown of all the costs--description/size, unit, quantity, unit cost, and total cost, Hr. Commers asked if the $82,000 for traffic signal improvenents per intersection included the engineering costs. Mr. llarner stated the engineering costs were not included, Page P was a breakdown of potential signal improvements for each one of the inter- sections, totalling �IIZ,000. There needed to be sone additional study, perhaps on the part of the HR11 and on the part of Rarton-Aschman,as to what is appropriate, given the intrrsection conditions. For examp'e, it was their understanding that !!nDOT may be changing the controller boxes _ on some, but perhaps not all, of these four intersections. In addition, they have observed that, for exar�ple, the signal heads are C-inch instead of the 12-inch which are now standard for I1nDOT. He had talked about pole foundations that would have to be raised if the bricl; treatmen� was used. In addition, they would also have to change the hand holes, another technical aspect of the traffic signals. Other line items included the surface detectors for vehicle sensors, lighted street signs, er�ergency vehicle protection device, and surface striping. P1r. 1larner stated each one of the intersections fias sor�ewhat different characteristics in terms of the traffic signal devices and would have to be evaluated. But, $82,000 represented a"worst case" situation. They did not expect the costs to go 6eyond that,other than there might have to be a temporary traffic signal put in during the construction season. !1r. Llarner stated �in�OT may or may not participaie in some of these costs. It would be appropriate to pursue with t1nDOT this possibility. HOIISIPlG G f',EDE!'FLOPP'EPIT AU?HOP,ITY "?CFTING, OCTOQFR 8, 1987 Pl!�'" 14 P1r. Flora stated HnDOT should be replacing all the controllers next year; therefore, they will be meeting that cost. ?hey could certainly asl: P!nDOT to participate in the cost of changing the signal heads Fror� 8-inch to 12-inch diar�eter. He believed NnDOT might participate in a number of intersection items as part of their system to upgrade the signals to their standards. t1r, ilarner stated again he wanted to point out that the costs are all worst case situations for the urban design inprovements, corridor land- scape improvements, and the traffic signal ir�provements. ?hey believe that in many of the cases, the costs will be less, both fron the land- scape perspective and the traffic signal perspective, contingent, of course, upon P1nDOT's participation in traffic signal improvements and the re-use of as many things as possible. from a prairie perspective, they believe the upper end of the prairie cost will be `5,00�/acre, anc' the lower end will be sonewhere around $3,ODOJacre. "1r. Commers thanked t1r, llarner, Hr. Bowen, and Mr, l�darzala for cor�ing to the meeting. 7. COfISIDEP.ATION OF fIt�APICIP;G CIVIC C[�JTER DI-LEVEL PARY.I�l, R^r1P; Mr. Robertson stated the preliminary estimate in Nay 19i36 was q?7_0,000. The contractor, after closer examination of the mechanical and electrical, has cone in at 4751,000 which was roughly "r7,826 per stall. ?hat was consistent with other estimates they have heard, �1r. Robertson stated Staff iaas reconmending that the H�/1 finance the ranp project as part of their total tax increment bond project. He stated the Cor�mission considered this at their "".ay 1986 meeting, did an overall 6udget, looked at it in December for the bond issue, and then � savi the preliminary costs in 'tay 1987. t!ovr, this was a �retty reliable cost estimate, there was a 5% contingency, and Staff was reconmending this be an HRA project. P1r. Conmers asked what Staff v+as suggesting as far as assessments. !"r. Robertson stated Staff was not suggesting any assessments. Mr. Comroers stated he felt the office building and the clinic shou�d be participating in the cost of this ramp, and this should be discussed with them. h1r. Prairie asked if this ramp was designed for more than one level. They should find out wfiat the options are. It would be too bad if they build the ranp with one '.evel and then needed more space later on. t9r. Commers stated that in 1985, they started out with a parking ranp of $1.3 nillion, of which 80a was to be assessed to the clinic, 1(!% to the office building, and the HRA would put in 10%. "",aybe tBe function HOUSING & REDEVELOP�'E�lT At1THORITY HEETING, OCTOBER 8, 1987 PnGE 15 and the focus o` the ramp was a little different in that thr ramp was being shifted over by City Hall so that the city employees can use it, but in fact, both the office building and the clinic will be getting a suh- stantial benefit because they both have parking problems also. He felt there was so�ething to be said for fair share. 1"ay6e they should give more thought to the design of the rar�p as suggested by !"r. Prairie and maybe it should be back over by the c]inic where everybody can use it and maybe it should have the ability to he expanded. t"r. P.obertson stated one attractive thing about the location of the ranp by City Hall was that the present Civic Center has a poor entrance to the lower level, particularly to the Police Department. This seened like a good opportunity to enhance the entrance to the lower level. '1s. Schnabel asked if the City had given any consideration to renting office space in the office building. Nr. Robertson stdted they posed that idea to the City �ouncil on "'onday night--that there might be some vacant space in the office building and the question had come up: llhy didn't the City consider renting rather than expanding? The City Council considered it, but the negatives were that all city employees are not all under the same roof. The City Council decided they did not want to do that and wanted to go ahead with the expansion plans as proposed. t1r. Prairie stated he felt the renting of space in the o°fice huilding would at least be an alternative worth exploring. �1s. Schnabel stated he could understand the contraints within Citv 4a11, and part of it was 6ecause of the big spaces like the Council Chambers and Cor�munity f'oom I which �aybe could be used morw efficiently for other purposes. Haybe they could lease space in office building a lot cheaper, than the cost of expa�ding. �'r. Conmers stated the decision has apparently been nade and the City Council has approved the expansion, and that it was not the H�A's consi- deration, but it was just that the City Counci' wanted the H^,A to contri- bute $9D0,000 at this point. P{ow that the HRA was hearing some of the details, they obviously have a lot of questions. He thought there were sone questions that should be ans4iered about the way the ramp was being planned, and a6out hoai the ranp should be totally financed. There �aas also the question that if Target should expand and need additional park- ing, maybe they should share in the cost. Ne stated he did not feel the HRft should take any action at tfiis point and maybe the City Council and HRA should have a joint meeting to discuss this. Ns. Schnabel agreed they need to meet with the City Council to get sor�e of these questions ansv+ered and to explore some of the concerns the H!'A has expressed at this meeting. NO!1SINr, & REDE`J[LOPH[P!? AUTHORITY r+�F?irir,, QCTOEEC 8, 19E'7 ?AG� 16 t1r. Robertson stated he would arrange a joint meeting between the City Council and the HR/l. 9,. CLAIMS i1653-1670 MOTION BY MA. PRAIRIE� SF,CONDED BY MS. SCHNABEL, TO APPPOVE THF. CNECK REGSSTER AS PRF.SEN2ED. UPON R VOICE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE� CHAZ1iPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THF, MOTSON CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. I"r. Pribyl stated he wo�ld draw the Comr�ission's attention to a one-page report that dealt with the bond proceeds. There was a recap oF what t"ey spent to date out of the construction proceeds, and the bot�ora figure under the total updated the HRA as to how much rnoney they have avaiTable under the bond proceeds for construction. Ne stated this was a report the 4C.", should start seeing once a month. ADJOUP.NMENT: MO^'ION BY MS. SCHNAAF.L, SECOb7DED BY MR. PRAIRIE� TO ADJOURN THF. MFF,TING. UPON A VOFCF. VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPF.RSOP7 COMMERS DECLARED THF, OCTOBF.P. A, 1987, HOUS_NG & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORZTy MF,ETING ADJOURNF.D RT 11:30 P.M. Res ectful7y subni ted, ` nnei Saba Recording Secretary -; �/CYC.UJ�i" 4= .,K,�- 4��-� �-�C��:r,��;� � , � �C�1-�,�-c:,�..J��y I ` �� CJ �G�/t.e%� �-�-� �l[-.�, , � � /J �J r� - � � ' J"-i-� o�l.�-�-`-�.1L._ .,/,�.. C-.v. `,''- � �- �3'-efG ��lrrz-�_ _ c� �,�---, �� L O �.1.� �'l L.�c-A� ZZL. � . -.�1 `�S�-_ ,-=1�1�-T�� l`� �s �. �. 2a�, � .�., �z�o44 $ci;'L� JU�-�-�-�• i-��v� �-r. �� "%� \�-1 � � �._t. . ��-�_ �� , � �� ) �, f „ �'�� ), � ;y ��ti ,� �� v� ��,r,, � �� 11 <� '� �� -��t; � �� C�ciCi°� �.L�,, ' �L%c! //2L%/' /�L��✓� �� v�� ;� -r�� 1 �� --_?�� Z! �EC� _�Ct. `,�. � i C � /,�, � Zr��'7 /, i �J �� .t r f��.�� - %��.5� // �«7 %`S� !' / / 7.'� ; , /� i� <S'c� , � �5'. , Gj �� ji ��, % ;�, __— �� : - ; i- ,� ' C' - /J-' �' - ��n,s�� -��,� , � CITY OF FRIDLEY ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING OCTOBER 14, 1987 CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Svanda called the October 14, 1987, Environmental Quality Commission meeting to ordez at 7:35 p.m. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Richard Svanda, Maynard Nielson, Wayne Wellan Members Absent: None Others Present: Myra Wicklacz, Planning Assistant APPROVAL OF AUGOST 18, 1987, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY CQMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION by Mr. Wellan, seconded by Mr. Nielson, to approve the August 18, 1987, Environmental Quality Commission minutes as written. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SVANDA DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 1. STAFF REPORT A. Anoka County and Met Council Grant Update Ms. Wicklacz distri6uted copies of the Proposed Anoka County Funding Program for City/Township Recycling(Composting/Waste Reduction Activities which was handed out at the Arioka County Solid Waste Abatement Task Force meeting. The solid waste master plan went before the Met Council last week. The program proposal contains a cuzrent program and two additional phases for funding with money coming from the Met Council, which was the 50¢ per household and $4 per ton. Ms. Wicklacz stated that she had received a check from Anoka County for $13,379 which is for half of 1986 and half of 1987 program expense fox recycling. Another request will be made in January for the last hal� of this year. Mr. Svanda stated it appeared as if the County would continue the Phase I funding by household and remaining funds would be allocated aiter those funds were distributed, on a request basis. 4 i.+ ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 14, 1987 PAGE 2 Ms. Wicklacz stated that the County appeared to be concerned with helping those cities that have no programs, but that Fridley, Spring Lake Park, and Columbia Heights are equally important to maintain current programs and keep them going. Ms. Wicklacz distributed copies of Locations for Recycling/Composting in Anoka County. This information is sent to persons requesting information on recycling or composting. r Mr. Svanda asked if the funding for Fridley would remain the same. Ms. Wicklacz had asked Mr. Norm Schiferl j Anoka County, if Fridley would see funding cuts. Mr. Schiferl stated he could not guarantee the current funding, but he did not think Fridley would receive less money and felt it possible that Fridley could receive more. The program has funds set aside for each city. If a city does not apply for funds, the money is put back into the general fund and will be allocated to those cities making requests. (Phase II) Mr. Svanda felt it important to have a proposal ready in case this should happen. Ms. Wicklacz stated she would submit a grant and, at the same time, provide for additional phases,should funds be made available. Mr. Wellan asked how much money Fridley would receive. Ms. Wicklacz stated that the amounts were still uncertain at this time. Ms. Wicklacz stated that, as part of the Public Information Grant from the Met Council, posters will be sent to the printer next week. Ms. WickZacz indicated that the CLIMB Theater, who do programs for children, do a play called "Trash" cahich they are currently performing over the Metro area. The group is coming to Hayes Elementary School in November. The theme of this play is the three R's: Reduce, Re-use, and Recycle. Ms. Wicklacz will look into getting the right to videotape the play for use with the education classes being planned in the schools. Perhaps the program wi.11 include some of the same curriculum that will be used at Hayes. Ms. Wicklacz stated she is trying to get an educational program ready for spring quarter geared toward the fourth grade. A letter i�i11 be sent to school principals asking whether they have an instructor or a program in their school relating to recycling and solid waste education. Mr. Svanda indicated that the Waste Management Board might have some curricula materials available and recommended Ms. Wicklacz contact them. � � ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSTON MEETING, OCTOBER 14, 1487 PAGE 3 B. Curbside Recycling Program Ms. Wicklacz distributed copies of a graph showing the tonnages of recycled maCerials collected. Participation in the cucbside program has increased since the City has started having twice a month pick �p but the tonnages have not necessarily increased. Mr. Svanda indicated that he had heard Mr. John Luoma make a statement to the effect that a twice a month gick up could increase,participation by 50% and a weekly pick up could increase participation by 80%. Mr. Svanda would like to have Mr. Luoma attend a meeting to discuss how Fridley could get that kind of participation rate. Ms. Wicklacz would like to have Mr. John Morland of Supet-Cycle attend a meeting too. t4r. Morland supervises the workmen who do pickups. Mr. Plorland has indicated an interest in having a once-a-week pick up in Fridley, and Ms. Wicklacz feels they could do this. However, thete continues to be a pro6lem with collection. Mr. Svanda would like to have them attend a future meeting. Mr. Svanda would like to know, such as in the City of Plymouth, what is being done to get the high level of participation. Ms. Wicklacz stated that although Mr. Plorland would like to do a once a week pickup, persons doing the actual work say they would not want to do so. Ms. Wicklacz stated that participa[ion varies from neighborhood to neighborhood, and that some neighbors have a higher percentage of residents than others. Mr. Wellan asked the reasons for missed pick ups. Ms. Wicklacz indicated there are two peoDle on a truck, and each of the 4-5 trucks have a specific area to cover. The haulers often r�istakenly do not go into an area because they thin'� someone else is covering that area. Ms. Wicklacz has pr4vided current cmaps and pursued the problem but it continues to exist. The missed pick ups are geneially less than 10�. I4r. Dick Pouliet of Plymouth has indicated a similar problem and has reported a higher share of missed pick ups. Ms. Wicklacz stated the signs would be in this week. The signs are made of a corrugated plastic and should last a long time. The signs will need to be put on stakes which Ms. Wicklacz has. Suggestions were requested for putting signs together and fot distri6uting signs. Mr. Svanda indicated the staples on his sign came out and he ended up gluing the sign to the stake. He thought a longer staple would remedy that problem. Mr. Wellan agreed that a long staple be used. The staple should be long enough to go through the stake and he bent over on the back. He also recommended using glue to better hold the sign. There are shingle guns available for rent that use wide stagles which may make the job easier. , � ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBEft I4, 1987 PAGE 4 Ms. Wicklacz stated she had not contacted the Boy Scouts for the project and, if using shingle guns, felt it would not be safe. Mr. Wellan suggested the Jaycees could distribute signs when Lhey deliver Christmas wreaths. Two or three signs could be distributed per street. Another way could be to distri6ute to each of the block captains. Mr. Svanda recommended putting a notice in the paper. ' Ms. Wicklacz indicated she had thought a6out contacting the senior citizens. The commission felt this a good idea. Ms. Wicklacz stated she would contact Ms. Connie Thompson to see if they are interested. Mr. Nielson indicated the Lions Club now has a Senior Club for those 55 years of age and over who may be interested in helping put the signs together. Ms. Wicklacz stated she would try first to get something arranged with the senior citizens and then would let the members know. C. S.O.R.T. Drop-Off Recycling Site Ms. Wicklacz reported that Mr. Steve Barnhart, Universal Can, has announced the sale of U-Can to Minnesota Soft Drink iMSD) which wi11 be effective on or about November 1, 1987. As part of the contract, Minnesota Soft Drink is required to abide by the lease agreement. At some of their sites, they pay for glass, which U-Can has never done. This would be an asset to the program. Mr. Wellan asked what their tonnages have been. Ms. Wicklacz stated that they had collected approximate2y 43 tons in three months. Ms. Wicklacz stated that the St.Williams Church had had a leaf pick up and brought the leaves to the City's compost site. D. Anoka County Solid Waste Abatement Task Force Ms. Wicklacz stated that anyone interested could attend the meetings of the Anoka County Solid Waste Abatement Tasic Force which are held at the Bunker Hills Activity Center, the first Wednesday of each month, at 7:00 p.m. The last meeting was on publicity and public information. Future meetings will focus on public education for the County and getting other cities' programs up and running. Ms. Wicklacz thought it would be interesting for other EQC members [o attend and hear what other cities are doing. 2. NEW BUSINESS A. Curbside Recycling Containers Ms. Wicklacz showed [he members a sample of curbside recycling containers. The stackable bins were labeled Glass, Cans and Newspaper; however, other la6els can be used. The set of three se21s for about $11.00 each when 1,000 are ordered. The price varies with the quantity ordered. � C ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY CQMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 14, 1987 PAGE 5 The containers can be ocdered in different colors and the labels must be speci£ied. These are not available for purchase by individuals now. Ms. Wicklacz had thought of buying bins with some of the money received from the County. Mr. Svanda liked the containers and the fact they are stackable. He also liked the colors and the labels. He felt bins such as these would get some people to recycle who are not doing so now. i Ms. Wicklacz asked for suggestions to promote the containers. Mr. Svanda suggested putting a survey in the City newsletter to see what the response would be. Mr. Wellan suggested a program which would combine covering the cost through grants, Funds from the City and residents purchasing the containers. Mr. Nielson suggested distribution of containers from civic organi- zations. This could perhaps be funded through the proceeds from the charitable gambling and)or pull tabs. He also indicated that the organization could put their logo or emblem on the bins so that the organization would get recognition for their contribution. Mr. Wellan added that groups could put a sticker on the bins with their group's emblem. He also wondered if there could be a combination of donations and grant monies used £or the containers. Ms. Wicklacz stated that St. Louis Park used the bins. They received a large grant and they purchased containers. She felt their program's success was probably due to the use of bins. Fridley has about 1,300 households now recycling. Mr. Nielson agreed to take the bins to the next Lions meeting to see if they would be interested in a project to provide funds for the recycling containers. Mr. Wellan asked if there was a way to recycle plastic. Ms. Wicklacz stated that Super Cycle does not take plastic as part of the curbside program. However, S.O.R.T. will accept plastic. B. Tour of Landfill and RDF Plants Ms. Wicklacz distributed information from the Association of Recycling Managers who are sponsoting a tour on October 22 during the day. Sites included in the tour are the Red Wing RDF - NSP Combustion plant, Pine Bend landfill, and the Reuter Plant in Eden Prairie. Ms. Wicklacz stated she would call to see if openings exist for anyone interested in the tour. C. Recycling Education in the Schools This item was covered as part of l.A. Anoka County and Met Council Grant Update. � - � ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, OCTOBER 14, 1987 PAGE 6 3. OTHER BUSINESS A. Recruiting New EQC Members Mr. Svanda indicated he had spoken with Mr. Steve Stark who will be sending pertinent information for membership to the City. Ms. Wicklacz stated she had spoken to Wayne DahZ abosst membership. Ms. Wicklacz stated she would check to see if Mr. Stark's letter and resume has been received at the City offices. B. .Proposed Meeting Schedule for 1988 Ms. Wicklacz distributed copies of the proposed 1988 Environmental Quality Commission meetings. MOTION by Mr. Wellan, seconded by Mr. Nielson, to accept the 1988 Environmental QUality Commission meeting schedule as submitted. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SVANDA DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. C. Miscellaneous Information Ms. Wicklacz distributed copies of the following for the memhers' information: Superfund Fact Sheet, Region 5 Solid Waste Report, June 29, 1987 Phoenix Quarterly, Summer 1987, Design for Recycling Minnesota Journal, September 8, 1987, How to Make Recycling Happen D. Recycling in Spring Lake Park Mr. Nielson indicated that Spring Lake Park in a recent letter will be having a recycling program for those in apartments. ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by Mr. Wellan, seconded by Mr. Nielson, to adjourn the meeting. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SVANDA DECLARED THE OCTOBER 14, 1987, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:00 P.M. Respectfully submitted, . � `: , � � Lavonn Cooper Recording Secretary CITY OF FRIDL�Y PARKS & RECP.CATION COH�".ISSIO"� H[ETING t:OVENBER 2, 1387 CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Kondrick called the Novenber 2, 1987, ParY.s & Recreation Commission meeting to order at 7:15 p.m. ROLL CALL: �1enbers Present Mecibers .4bsent: Dave Kondrick, F1ary Schreiner, Dan Allen, John Gargaro, Al Gabel Dick Young Others Present: Jack Y.irk, Director of Recreation & �latural f'.esources Ralph Volkman, Superintendent of Pitblic Worl:s Siah St. Clair, City iSaturalist Gary Johnson & Jean Ayers, 5933 I!ackmann Ave. N.[. APPROVAL OF OCT06ER 5, 19f37, PARY.S & RECR�ATIOP! COMt+.ISSICPI �1I��U?�S: MOTION BY 74R. GABEL� SECONDED BY MS. SCHREINER� TO APPROVfi' THF OCT. 5� 1987, PRRKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MZNUTES AS WRZTTEN. UPON R VOSCE VOTE� RLL VOTING AYE� CXAZRPERSON KONDRZCK DF.CLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNRNIMOUSLY. 1. Hi4CKIiAtlG CIRCL[ PARY,: Mr. Kirk stated that at the last meeting, P1r. l'olkman had suggested that the Cor,anission get some input from the neighborhood on improvements or what the neighbors would like to see changed, stay the same, or improved in the park. As requested by the Commission, the City sent out notices and questionnaires to approximately 45 houses in tt�e ilackmann Circle Parl: neighborhood inviting them to this meeting at tlorth Park School, but i` they could not attend to mail their input via the questionnaire. He stated that so far they have received three questionnaires and a couple of tele- phone calls. Mr. Johnson stated they have lived in the neighhorhood for three years. The houses were built around 1957-58, so it was an older neigh6orhood; hoviever, now new families with small children are Moving into the.neigh- borhood. He asked if the City had access to any demographic information on family sizes� cY,ildren's ages, etc. PACKS & RECP,EATIOP� CO!"�",ISSIO�! MEETI�l6, P!0!'E!".BI:C 2, 19R7 PP,GE 2 �1r. Kirk stated they have requested demographic information from all four school districts in Fridley; however, this information just addressed the school age children. "s. Ayers stated people do cor�e from Gardena and Tennison to use� the park. Beyond that, she did not know how many people knew Hackmann Circle Park was there. Mr. Johnson stated it seemed like mothers with young children use the park during the day. He had not seen very many o?der chiYdren using the balt- field. He did not think there were too many children in the area who were older than 10-11 years. '1s. Ayers stated there are some teenagers, then a gap, and then children around � years old, then another gap, and then children 4-6 years old and toddlers. t1s. Ayers stated they were very excited abou*. having a park so close to them when the moved into their home. They use "'oore LaY.e Park and Beach for bigger outings and picnics. !1s. Ayers stated the drainage in the park was quite poor and the ground vaas mucky. That might be another reason why there is not much use of the bal!- field. 11r. Kondrick asked if they thought the ice skating rink was being used. �1s. Ayers stated they were also excited about having a skating rink so close. Last year was a poor winter for skating, so she was not sure how much the rink was used. She stated one problem was there were no benches to sit on while putting on or taking off skates. t1s. Nyers stated if plumbing was to be put in for a water fountain, she would be a little concerned about the maintenance of it and also the vandalism. She stated a neighbor had said they would like to have a toilet facility at the park. "".r. Johnson stated the playground equipment was fairly large and geared for older children. It wou7d be nice to have some playground equipment for both older and smaller children. The swing set was used a lot. "is. Ayers stated the slide in the park was quite old, too wide, and pretty dangerous. She, too, would like to see some playground equipment that could be used for both older and smaller children. "15. Ayers stated that as far as having picnic tables in the park, it was her impression that most of the people who use the park live nearby and go hor�e for lunch and supper, lJhen they go on a picnic, they usually go to "".00re LaY.e Park. PARKS � RECRF.ATION COII�IISSION �1EETI�:�, t�OV��"ESER 2, 19R7 P�.r,C 3 Mr. Johnson stated he would like to see more benches in the park, particularly benches that are closer to where the chiidren are playing. The benches that are there novi are too far away from the play area. Mr. Kirk stated he had received a telepfione call from-a wonan wFro said she would like to see benches by the skating area. � Mr. Kondrick stated that regarding the three questionnaires returned to the City, the following things were mentioned as things they felt were inportant to have in the park: ] 2 Very Important trash containers skating ri�k benches tot lot area skating rink 3. landscaping drinking fountain picnic tables trash containers night lighting outdoor cooking grill ImPortant landscaping baskethall court benches tot lot area basketball court night lighting walkways benches vral kways Somewhat Important drinking fountain picnic tables basketball court tot lot area sl;ating rink MOTION BY MR. GARGARO� SF.CONDED BY 14R. GABEL, TO RECEP�E TXE "'XREE QUES220NNAIRES INTO 2HE RECORD. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING RYE� CHAIRPERSON XONDRICK DECLARF,D THE MOTION CARRIED UNRNIMOUSLY. hir. Kondrick stated he felt one of the first things they should do before mal;ing any decisions on improvements to the park was to find out the ages of the children in the neigfiborhood. Ms. Schreiner stated a comment made on one of the questionnaires was that Moore Lake Park was onty two blocks away and has most of the facilities that Hackmann Park does not. He would like to see Hackmann Park remain a neighborhood park, because they already have some problems with vandalisr� and other pablic nuisance problems. �rom the input on the questinnaires and from what Hr. Johnson and Hs. Ayers were saying, it sounds like people are pretty satisfied with the way the park is now,but that benches, trash containers, and some tot lot equipment were neer!ed. � PARKS P, RECREA7I01! C0.'?tISSI0f1 P1EE7Ifl6, t�OUEMBEF, 2, 1987 PAf:E 4 P1s. Schreiner asked �1r. Kirk if the City ever provided Satellites at any park where there was no organized activities. t4r. Kirk stated it was generally their practice to provide Satellites only at parl:s where they have ongoing programs. A Sateltite is put in just for the length of the prograr�. I�e stated a Satellite was nice for people who live a little way from the park, but it was an eyesore for people who have to look at it frorn their back yard. Also, Satellites invite vandalism, '1s. Ayers stated she felt most of the children in the area who use the park were about 4 years old and younger. She would guess there ivere about 11 children on Tennison and about 15 r.hildren on Hackmann .4venue. Hr. '!otknan stated they would have to look at the drainage and see viha*. would need to be done to provide better drainage. He stated he did no*_ think they were talking about very much money to provide the improvements that the people seened to be requesting. '"r. Volknan stated that re9arding lighting, it was possible that the najority of the neighborhood might not want lighting at night, excep± For a light for the skating rink. Nr. Kondrick stated he would recommend lighting if he knew that the park would be used a 1ot at night. F1r. Y.irl: stated one woman had told him that the park was used a lot, but it was only used after school and not at night because there were no lights. Mr. Gargaro stated he would like to have t�is discussion continued un±il they get the census information fron the schoo7 districts. If they are going to consider more significant things like lighting and new playground equipment, they need to know the numbers and ages of the children who would use it. MOTION BY MR. GARGARO, SECONDED BY MR. GABEL� TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION ON THE UPGRADING OF HACKMANN CIRCLE PRRK UNTIL THEY HRVE RECEIVED TNF, CF.NSIIS INFOR- MATION FROM THE FOUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS. DPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING RYE� CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THF. MOTZON CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Mr. Kondrick stated sone things they should discuss at that tir:e were: lighting, benches, tot lot equipment, and drainage. Mr. Kondrick thanked "1r. Johnson and 11s. Ayers for coming to the meeting and giving the Commission some valuable input. PARKS a RECREATIOt� COHItISSION MEETING, NOVEMQER 2, 1987 PAGE 5 StAFF REPORT: a. b. Fall Prograr�s Mr. Kirk stated that on Nov. 17, the City Parks & Recreatiorr Department and the Lions Club will be co-sponsoring the 12th annual Turkey Shoot. He stated it started out as a basketball shooting competition, but was expanded so that it now includes six different events. Parents and children participate in the different events, the scores are tabluated, and the winners receive a free turkev. He stated he would like to invite the Commission members to attend the event and they eouid help with the operation of the event if they so desired. It is held at the Fridley Middle School from 7-9 p.m. Update on School Census Information t1r. Kirk stated he has contacted the four school districts in Fridley: School District 14, Spring Lake Park, Columbia lieights, and Anoka- Hennepin. �istrict 14 has sent the information on all the school age children in the district--elementary, middle school, and high school. The other schooi districts will also be sending that informa- tion. Vlhen all the information is received, he would like to put it together and plat it on a large map. He hoped to have that information ready for the next meeting. The Canmission members the census information be available also. 3. OLD BUSIP�FSS: asked ��r. Kirk to request from the school districts on preschool children as that information should Springbrook Nature Center Ponding Project �".r. Kirk stated that for about a year, they have talked about doing a ponding project for the Springbrook �ature Center with the City of Coon Rapids. t�ow, the City of Coon Rapids has decided to take care of its own pondin9 needs within its industrial park, so t1r. St. C1air has been working very closely with the Public 4lorks DepartMent in revising those ponding plans. '1r. St. Clair stated he thought the discussions on the ponding project actually started in 1982. The difference between this new plan and the plan the Commissioners had seen last year was they have eliminated a massive amount of work that would have had to be done. They do not have the water storage capabilities they needed for the water coming from Coon Rapids. Because of that, they do not need to have as much "bounce". What was going to happen was after a major storr.+, there was going to be a 6 ft. increase in the water level in the park. The only way to absorh PAf'.KS & R!'CP.�P,TION COP1NISSIOt� MEETIPIG, MCU[NBF(' 2. 1987 P�S� 6 that was to actually lower the water table in the park from what it is right now so that the "6ounce" would not have such a high impact. Since they do not have to worry about having as much "bounce", they can actuaily raise the water table from what it is right noa and still absorb the raised water level from future storms. They are going fror� three ponds to two ponds. Because of all these changes, they have greatly reduced the cost of the whole project. ?he cost was now around $2�0,000. �1r. St. Clair stated they are planning to have a settlement pond for the water coming from Coon Rapids industrial area. Mr. St. Clair stated in the plan a year ago, they were looking at how to accommodate storm drainage and try to come to a compromise so the storm drainage and the storage could be handled within the park and still maintain the integrity of the park to some extent. P;ow, they have the best plan because this plan really accomodates the parY, more than any of the other plans. P?r. St, Clair stated another thing they are looking at as part of the whole ponding project because of all the dirt moving, etc., was the possibility of adding some parl:ing within the park itself that would be for "event" parking only. It would not be a paved area, but a flat, well drained area with grass that could be mowed for parking when there is some kind of event, They have about six �ajor events a year at the Nature Center. Until now, t;;� only place they can park cars for an event was across 85th either on the stree� or in an open field. Last Hallow2en, they had about 1500 people, and that was alot of people to have to park across the street and then have to cross the street twice at night. P^.r. St. Clair stated they are looking at expanding the current parking lot to the west and then also extending parking along the railroad tracks right where you enter the park off 85th Ave. If they did this, they could park almost 3C0 cars. �ir. St. Clair stated he expected the City Council to approve the ponding project o� Nov. 9th: Advertisements would be in the newspaper the next Tuesday, the bids will be let on Dec. 15, and actual construction should start on Jan. 2-3. MOTION BY MS. SCNREINER� SECONDED BY MR. GARGARO� TO R.°.COMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL THE APPROVAL OF TNE SPRINGBROOK NATURE CEN?'EP. PONDING PROJE('T AS PRESENTED BY MR. S4'. CLAIR. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE MOL"ION CARRIED UNANZMOUSLY. PARKS & RFCRCATION COMMISSION MCETI�:G, N01'E�?P>�R 2, 19E7 P;1Gf. 7 t. 19II8 Pieeti ng Dates MOTION BY MS. SCHREINER� SECONDED BY MR. GARGARO� TO APPROVE THE 1988 MEF,TING DATES. MEETINGS TO BE NELD AT 7:00 P,M. AT CITY HALL UNLESS CHANGED AT A PRIOR MEETING. ' UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRZCK DECLARF,D THF. MOTZON CARRIED UNANIMDUSLY. ADJ(IUP.�lMEP1T : MO2ION BY MIt. GARGARD� SECONDED BY MR. GABEL� TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. UPON R VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THF. NOVEMBER 2� 1987� PARKS & RECREATZON COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:45 P.M. Respectfully sub itted, `�-- Ly e Saba Recording Secretary