PL 01/27/1988 - 7110PLANNING COI�I�ISSION MEETING
WEDNESDAY, JANIIARY 27, 1988
7:30 P.�.
Jock Robertson
Co�nwzity Developnent Director
City of I'ricl�y
AG EP?D�
PLI��TING (bhg7ISSIUN t9EETTDIG 4�E�TESI�Y, J�NTJ�IRY 27, 198$ 7:30 P.Nte
Location : Cotuzcil Chamber (upper level. )
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A_pPR�VE PL.�Nt�rNG QON�1T�Sj0� MT��TrF�• January 6, 198�
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Per Section 205.17.1.C.8 of the�Fridl�y City Code, to allc�a r
exterior �torage of n�ateri�ls and equi�xnent on that Fart cf ,,, ,,
the East 225 feet �f the c��est 475 feet Uf the nortY� hal f of ; u��J�u�i.�
tl-�e northeast quarter of the �uthwest quarter of Sectior, 12, ;f
T-3C, R-24, Anok�i County, Minnesota, lyir�g r�orth of trde aouth �'
405.60 feet of said north half of the rrortY?east quarter of the
soixthwe�t quarter, the same k�eing 1130 - 73rd Avenue N. F.
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CALL �0 ORDER:
Qiairperson Betzald called the January 6, 1988, Planning C.onanission meeting
to order at 7: 37 p m
Rnr.r. �Ar,r.;
Members Present: Donald Betzald, . D�vid Kpndrick, . Sue Sherek, .
Rid�ard Svanda
Members Ab;sent: Dean Saba, . Alex Barna
Others Present: Jim Robinson, , Planning Coordinator
Jock Robertson, . Catsn�mity Develognent Director
Dennis S�neider, City Council
Norman Brody, 2233 K Hamline, St �i:l
George Ap�lebaun, . 2233 I�i Hanline, .St �t:l.
Angela Geldert, . 6291 Central Avenue
APPRQ�%pT, OF DE tymFR 15, 1987. TANIVTTT` mrqu[TS�T�j �NfTi'F'S;
M4�Q�I by Mr. Knndrick, seconded b� Mr. Svanda, . to apprave the December 16,
1987, Pl.anning Catunission minutes as written
TJPC)N A VOI� VG�, . ALI, VOTIIZ; AYE, �AIRIERSCN BE'IZQ�D I�(3,ARED THE M(JTION
C�2R1ED UNANINDUSL�
�l�lOUNCEMENr OF P�Tj�jj'jy��' QE j� j�ja ANNTI�i; (Y�MMTSST()N ('u�ATRPF'RS(�1�T-
Mr. Roainson wngratulated Mr. i3etzold on his appointment to CY�airperson of
the Planning Catunission
Mr. Aetzald stated that contained in the agenda was a letter from Steve
Billings to Mayor Nee submitting his resignation as Chairperson of the
Planning Co�►mission af ter being elected to serve on the City Cotmcil.
Mr. i3etzold stated he would like the Co�snission menbers to )azaa that he did
not seek the a�oir�tment as (�airperson of the Planning Commission. In
fact, he had turr,ed it dawn twioe, . but after being approarhed by the Mayor
who asked him to serve as dlairperson, , he t3�en aooepted the position
L ��BL•IG HEART�',; ��TnFRATTnN nF A MC)nTFT[`nTTnN T� � MOO� L.AKE ('ONLMOIIS
STZE PLaN TO �__�.7 AN AnDTTTOI�nT. CC� C[� O�Q,�(�. CRFFK ,I2L�An:
M�91J b� Mr. Rnndrick, . seo�nded by Ms Sherek, . to open the public hearing
TJPON A VOICE VOrIE, . ALL VOTIl� A3�, . Q3A.TRFERSCN BE�L¢D DEQ,ARED THE NYJTION
CARRIED UNANINDUSLY, . AND THE P[JBLIC HEARIl� OFENED AT 7: 39 P. M
Mr. Rc�inson stated the City has rec�eived a request fram Mr. Brody and Mr.
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A,pplebaun that ti�ey be allawed to plave an additional curb cut on Rioe Creek
Road, in addition to the two whic� were previously planned for ti�e shopping
center. ZY!e oriqinal driveways were located f irst about 175 f� from
Central Avenue, , and then the major driv�aay for both the shopping oenter and
the health & racquet club was located in the area central to the
devel opnent
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Mr. Rc�inson stated the market people for Brody & Associates have indicated
to the�n that �e driveway locations were nQt oonducive to leasing the sp3oe, .
and so they have r�uested that an additional driveway be allawed to be
glaoed in an area pretty mudz in line with 63rd Avenue which would allaa
peogle who are traveling west to turn into the oenter. Arody & Associates
did send notives to the people in the area f ram the same mail ing 1 ist as
that used for ti�e glat in 1987.
Mr. Robinson stated the oonoern raised tr� bath �e Planning Commission and
the City Council was the impact on this neighborhood in general. 71ie
rie i c�borh ood i s f ai rly isol ated f r o�n th e maj or ar te r i al s, . and th e acce ss
onto Rioe Creek Road was one af the few which allaaed the neighbors to go
west to Old Central. In addition, .�ere will be the possibil ity that some
traffic wazld cut through onto 63rd Avenu�e to try to acoess the developnent
H�wever, . onoe Rioe Creek Road is finished, . the median on Hicj�way 65 will be
closed off s� that southbound traffic will r�ot be able to turn left and go
onto 63rd Avenue.
Mr. Robi nson sta te d th e C i ty has r eal ly not dor�e a ti� or ouc� analy s i s of th e
situation at �is p�ir�t. One of the ti�ings thought to be possible if the
additional curb cut was peroeived to be a good idea would be to p�ssibly
work witi� 63rd Avenue in sudz a way where traffic would be allaaed in and
out as normal, . but the traffic fran this new driveway would not be allaaed
to go straic�t ahead or to turn left Traffic would be allawed to come in
frcm the east and turn left in and a ric�t out, . but that would be all.
An�ther idea was to have a ail,-de-sac in this area, , but that would reduce
�e oonvenienoe for acoess for the r�eic�bors in the area.
Mr. Robinson stated that at this time, . Staff feels it is san�ahat premature
to mave t3�is throu� the Planning Cazunission, . and Staff reeds to study some
definitive alternatives j3cywever, . they felt this public hearing would be a
good opport�ity for input fran the r�eic�bors F�rhaps bec�use of the cold
weather or oR-her c�onmitments, . there was only one reicjlbor present ?� would
suggest they tahle ti�is item in order for Staff to prepare some conceptual
sketd�es of what Qould happen in the future on 63rd Avenue and the driveway.
Ms Sherek stated the Planning Cammission's oonoern before was also for the
people in the Heat3�er Hills neic�borhood and along Moore Lake. W�� there
any r�egative response previously from people in the Moore Lake Hic�lands
area?
Mr. Rnbinson stated he did not recall that there was any real negative
response at either the Planning Catanission or t3�e r�eic�borhood meeting that
was held Cc�uncilmanber-at-Large Nancy Jorgenson did receive some �hone
calls of concern fram a couple of the neic�bors in that area, . and he
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believed there was soniie discussion at the City Cotmcil meeting
M.s Sherek asked if t
traffic only" had been
areas aramd Northtaan
Avenue so it is not use
sh oppi ng cente r, . and tt-
traff iC Only ".
he possibil ity of posting 63rd Avenue f or "1 ocal
explored Zt►at was what has been done in sane of the
Fi_rst, i3�ey should prd�ibit truck traff ic on 63rd
d at all for delivery trucks coming to and f rom the
en, . se oondly, . t�ey mic� t want to po st i t,f or "1 ocal
Mr. Rc�binson stated that was certainly a p�ssibility that oould be explored.
He would also like to look at what they. can do with the al iqnment of the
curb cut, and the median itself oould be used as a tool to prcahibit cross
traff ic
M,s Sherek stated the only thing was that with the median, . it would
inconvenienoe people in the neic�borhood f ran getting out � the oenter and
back to their neic�borhood
Mr. Rabinson stated they are airrently working witi� Short Elliat-Hendrickson
on the desic� of Riae Creek Road St�ff would be �onsulting wit3� them, . the
Public Works Department, . and other in-house staff to see what would be the
best alternative for this outlet Onc�e they have some schemes that are
workable, t3�ey will v�me tx�ck to the Planning Conanission witi� t�ose sc�enes.
Mr. Svanda suggested the possibility of having the new acoess somewhat off-
center fran 63rd Avenue with the median there to �xchibit people f rom going
across t o 63rd Avenue, . and th e pe opl e 1 iv ing on 63rd Avenue ooul d th e n go a
little west and then come into the shopping center. he did not know if
sic�age for "local traffic only" would cb much, . a cul-de-sac would not do
muc� for tfie people im�cted by the cul-de-sac, , glus it would limit their
acoe ss.
Mr. Robinson stated one of the matives of the desic� was to limit the amo�mt
of turning mations on Ria�e Creek Road, . but this was soane�ig S. F. K was more
qual if ied to oo�ment on.
Mr. Norm Brody stated he was the c3eveloper for the project. He would like
to give t�e Co�nission the reasoning behind their request for an additional
cvrb cu� He :tated their marketing staff felt that with just the two
entrances that some of the tenants of the project would be in a
disadvantageous location because � the circuitous way in which the traffic
would have to proceed through the proj ect in order to get to their
busir�esses So, . the traffic people felt another curb cut just to allaa
ingress into this area in a more ventral location for the businesses would
help the traffic flav ixiternally. Fkzqed on that, . they had sane prel iminary
discussions with the City,. and the City felt it was alright for the
developer to apply for this additional curb cut ��tated he was open to
any limitations or suggestions the City felt were r�eoessary.
!Hs Sherek asked Mr. Brody haw he felt about having this driveway be an
entranae only.
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N�. Brody stated he had no obj ection to that, . because entrance into the
proj ect was thei r maj or wnoern.
Mr. BetzQld stated Staff was asking the Planning Commission to table this
item to give the City more time to work with the developer on some
alternatives Haw did Mr. Brody feel about delaying this itiem?
Mr. Arody stated they were not planning to start wnstruction until spring, .
but haa long would this be delayed?
Mr. Robinson stated this probak�].y would be brouc�t back to the Jan ?7th
Flanning Co�nission meeting
Ms. Anqie Gelbert, . 6291 Central Avenue, . stated she had not received any
previous notioes of this develognent, , and this was the first time she had
heard of any devel opnent. She stated she woul d 1 ike to know how th i s
devel ognent woul d aff ect her asse ssment s and h ow it woul d aff ect th e tr aff ic
on Rioe Creek Road and Old Central. She stated it was very diff icult to get
out c� her driveway onto Old Cewtral �w.
Mr. Rok�ins�on stated that as far as the develognent, , ti�ere would be no effect
on Ms. Ge1 der t' s Fr ope r ty in te rms of asse ssnents
C�uncilmember Schneider stated that as far as the City Council was
wnoerned, . t�ere would be no assessnents regarding road impravenents.
Mr. Robinson stated he was sorry to hear that Ms. Geldert had not received
ariy previous notioes as �e �►ould have been included on the mail ing 1 ist.
Eie stated Ms. Gildert was welwme to stop by anytime at City Hall, . and he
would review the �oect with her.
�I b� Mr. Knndrick, . sewnded b� Mr. Svanda, . to close �e public hearir�g
T)�1 A VOICE VG�, . ALL V�IK� AiE, .�iA1RFERSC�I BE�'L¢D DEQ,ARED THE Nl�TION
(31RRIED UNANIMXJSLY AND THE P[JBLIC HEARIK� Q��ED AT 7: 55 P. M
�Q1� by Ms. Sherek, . seconded by Mr. Kondrick, . to table further
vonsideration on this issue, . and that Staff be directed to develop some
alternatives for hanc�ing the traffic in and out of the cievelopnent with
oo�rments fran t3�e developer.
►riS. Sherek stated Staff should pay p�rticular attention to limiting the
im�act on the people on 63rd Avenue and to explore the possibility of an
"entranve only" at �e �oposed driveway location
UPON A VOI� VC71E, . At.�L VOTIK� AYE, QiAIl2�RSCN BEZZCLD I:EQ,ARED THE Nl�TION
C�IRRIED UNANIMXJSL�
2, ��TDERATTON OF A VACATI N, SAV #87-12. BY ,�HOREWI;,IOD PLAZA PART�EB�:
To vacate all c�f t�iat portion of the Hic�way 65 east service road lying
westerly of and adjaaent to the Shor�aood Plaza Shopping Center, . generally
located at 6257 Hic�way 65 11 F�
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Mr. Robinson stated the reason for the vacation was that with the
imprwements to the intersection of Highway 65/Rioe Creek Road, . they saw
there was a negative in terms of traffic safety because there was not
sufficient setback frcm �e state ric�t-of-way to where t3�e traffic oo�nes in
and out on the servive road 'Ihe City was �roposing that the entire portion
of the servioe road adjacent to the shopping center be vacated. 'II�at
property would then revert to the shopping center vwners. 'I3�e �owners, , in
turn, would cgant the City an easement so there would be access fram the
Fridley Liqu�r Store to Riae Creek Road A]_1 traff ic, . primarily traff ic
fram t�e Liquor Store, , would be able to circulate throuc� the shopping
center and then out to Riae Creek Road Rhis p�oposal has been 000rdinated
with the Public Works Die�xirtnent and wi� MnDO'�
Mr.. Robinson stated Staff was reoa�mending the follaaing stipulations:
L Developer to supply a storm drainage glan for existing center
pricr to final appra�al af vacation
2. L�eveloper to supgly a joirit driveway easement to the City
oonnecting the m�icigal liqu�r store to Riae Creek Road
prior to f inal apprwal aE vacation
3. I�veloper to supply a revised �rking lat layout sci�ene
pri� to f inal appraval c� vacation.
4. Devel ope r agr ee s t o imgl enent th e 1 ands cape gl an suppl ied by
City upon oompletion of Rive Creek Road improvenents Al.l green
areas to have autanatic sprinkling
Mr. Arady stated he felt they were in favor o� the vacation. �hey feel it
will im�ave �e property and be in keeping wit3� the werall glan for Moore
Lake CrnBnons �3e had no objection to the stipulations
CAt,a�cilmanber Schneider asked if this vacation would affect 'Ihe Lift
Mr. Robinson stated �e Lift coud possibly be img�cted He :tated Scott
Halm, aaner of Zhe Lift, . did call t�e City but he was not able to attend ti�e
meeting A median was being proposed on Hi�way 65, and southbo�d traff ic
would not be able to acaess 21�e Lift Also,. the vacation of the service
road would tend to cvt off some ac�ess to the store Mr. Rc�t�inson stated he
felt t3�e closing of �e median on Hicjiway 65 would be more of a problen than
the vacation of t3�e servive road
l�is Sherek stated if t3�e servioe road was clearly marked that the acoess was
throucj� ti�e shopping center garking lot, . that should actually ease the
negative impact; because t�e way the service road is now, . it is not in a
very good position and is hazardous in terms of traffic mavement. She
stated �e goes throuc� the si�opping �enter Farking lot and past the grooery
store naw to get to the servioe road, . rather tfian make that quick left onto
the servioe road fran Hic�way 6�.
Mr. Robinson stated the easement would really be a publ ic easement and was
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not f or th e 1 iq u�r st or e only.
�Q� b� Mr. Knndrick, . seoonded b� Mr. S�anda, . to reoommend to City Council
approval of SAV- #87-12 by Shorewood Plaza Partners to vacate all that
portion of t3�e Hic�way 65 east service raad lying westerly of and adj acent
to ti�e Shorewood Plaza Shopping Center, . generally located at 6257 Iiic�way 65
I�l E, with �e follaaing stipulations: �
L Dievel oper to suppl.y a storm drainage gl an f or exi sti ng
oenter prior to final apFxwal of the vacation
2 Dpveloper to supply a joirit driveway easement to the
City oonnecting the m�micipal liquore store to Rive
Creek Road prior to f inal appraval c� the vacation.
3. Developer to sUpgly a revised parking lat layout sd�ene
prior to final appraval c� the vacation.
4. I�vel ope r agrees to implenent th e 1 andscape pl an suppl ied
by �e City upon wmpletion of Rive Creek Raad im�xa�e-
ments All green areas to have autanatic sprinkling
UPON A VOI� VO�, . ALL VOrII� A�, . Q�A�t�RSQV BE�L¢D IECZARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANINLX)SL�
Mr. Robinson stated the City Co�mcil would set a public hearing on this item
at t3�eir January 25th meeting
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Mr. Robinson stated the oonvept as Froposed fran the beginning was that the
c�ld shopping oenter would be rsnodeled to be oonsistent witi� ti�e new center
in its c3esic�n elenents At this time, .�e developers are ready to begin the
renodeling of the existing shopping center, . and it will be renamed Moore
Lake Conat►ons West '[he glan for the shopping center is to construct a new
metal canop� wer the sidewalk area. Zhe metal canop�, . the acoent striping, .
and the stucoo sic� kaand will be oonsistent in both t3�e oenters and will be
�iform in oolor. �ie only deviation of oolor will be for re�oc�ized logos
for future or existing tenants whid� mic�►t be a different color. 'II�is was
cansistent to what has been c3or�e in other shopping centers �►e City feels
this renodeli.ng will be an e�cellent c3zange to the �iopping oeriter.
Mr. Rc�binson stated Staff was reoonunending the fallaaing stipulations:
L Sic� criteria to be �rovided whic� are wnsistent with �ose
sukmitted f� Moore Lake CatIIn�s
2 All sic}�s for both e�.sting and proposed centers to be the same
o�lor uzless approved tr� t3�e c3eveloper and the City.
3. Pylon sicp size for existing oenter wntingent upon apprwal
of the varianoe f or area.
Mr. Rc�binson stated the present pylon sign size was 224 sq. ft The
developer plans to relocate the sic� and remodel it at the same s�uare
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foatage. �e sic� would be not only for ti�e existing center, . but for the
whole Moore Lake Commons developnen� �e alternative to granting the
varianoe for ti�e sigl, . which has been appl ied f or, . would be to keep the
existing sic� whidz is grandfathered in It is an old, , obsolete, . and ugly
si� that woul.d end up being located in the parking lot when the area is
rede si gned
Mr. Brody stated the sic� would be a maximvn � 25 ft hicj� and 19 ft wicie
and would be a monument-type sign. �e actual square footage of the
lettering would be not more than 224 sq. ft , which is what currently
exists 'Ihey would ha�ve sFaoe for up to six tenants and identification of
�e entire project. 'Ihe taasic materials would be �efini�ed aluninum in a
blue oolor with white lettering, and the Moore Lake Commons portion of it
would actually be routed out in hlue and internally lit so the letters will
glaa. �he tenants would have par�els that slip in with white lettering with
blue opeque arotmd it so it would be very tastefully dorie.
Mr. F3etzald stated the Appeals Commission will have to consider the sign
varianoe request FYan his Fast e�erienoe on the Appeals Commission, . he
was always �o�mfortahle when the Planning Conunission and the City Council
would decide things and then would send these things down to the Appeals
Co�ngnission witi� the decisions already mac3e. As mudz as posssible, . he would
like to leave the Planning Co�snission out c� the decision on the pylon sign
and let the Ap�eals Coirmission oonsider it and cb as they see fit
Mr. RrcXly stated they just felt it was a good idea to let the Planning
Convnission see the plan and make ooaunents He felt the riew p�lon sigz would
be a big imprwenent a�er what was thre naw. He stated he had no problem
wit3� t3�e stipulations
Ms Sherek stated she did not think the Planning Commission could approve
the oom�ehensive sic� glan before the Appeals Co�nission makes a decision
on the pylon sign. It was 1 ike they were then tell ing the Appeal s
Cannission that it sfiould be dore this way.
Mr. Robinson stated one of the stipulations was that t3�e g�lon sic� size for
the exi.sting oenter would be ooningent upon the apprwal o�' the varianoe for
ti�e area. He stated they o�uld leave t3�e p�lon sigi out � ti�e sigi �ackage
and j ust go wit3� t3�e tenant sigzs
M.s Sherek stated she would be willing to agprove the Comprehensive Siqn
Plan wi� ti�e deletion of stipulation �3
,�Q� by Ms Sherek, . seoonded tr� Mr. Kondrick, . to apprwe the Comgrehensive
Sign Plan for the Shorewood Plaza Shopping Center with the following
sti Ful ati ons:
L Sigi criteria to be �rwided whic� are �nsistent with
�ose sukmitted for Moore Lake Conenons
2 All sigzs for both existing and proposed oeriters to be
th e same col or tnl ess app�raved by th e cievel oper and the City.
Mr. Betzold stated he would also reooaYmend that the p�lon sign varianoe go
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directly frcm t�e Appeals Catmission to the City CoLmcil without having to
first wme to the Planning Connnission throuc� the minutes
�e Planning Commission members were in agreement with Mr. Betzold's
re�unendati on.
jJPC%1 A VOI� VCIIE, . ALL VClr7I�T A�, . QiAIIt�RSCN BEZ'LQ,D I7EQ,ARED fI'HE Nl�TION
(�R.RIE D UNAN 7M)USL�
4. $F'(�IVE I�VENIB�ER 24, 1987. EI�EF�Y ��A�IISSION NlINUIFS:
M4�IQN b� Mr. Itc�ndrick, . sewnded by Mr. Svanda, . to reoeive t�ie Nwember 24,
1987, Fr�erc� Gonmission minutes
TJPC�N A VOICE VO�IE, . ALL V�Il� A�, QiAIIt�RSQV BEIZ¢D I�Q,ARED THE NlJTION
CARRIED UNANINDUSL�
5. ��IVE DECEI�ER 7. ?987. PARKS & RECRE�ION .,T SS ON MIN[?IFS:
�QN by Mr. Knndrick, . seo�nded b� Ms. Sherek, . to reoeive the Deoember 7,
1987, Parks & Recreation Conunission minutes
TJ?�N A VOI� VClIE, . AI,L Vd�Il� Ai�, . Q�iAIlt�ERSCN BE�L¢D TEQ,ARED THE NL�TION
CAF2RIED UNANINLXISL�
Mr. Kc�rdrick stated that on g�ge 8 of the Parks & Recreation Commission
minutes, .�e Comnission had made a mation to reooanmend to the City Council, .
throuc� the Planning Conunission, , that a city ordinanoe be drafted that would
make it illegal to feed the ducks on ariy public property. �is motion came
about because o� t3�e Parks & Recreation Consnission's oonaern wer the large
nunber c� ducks and gee se in the publ ic 1 ake ar ea s, . and th e po 11 ut i on th e
ducks and geese are creating in these areas. It was not a very healthy
si tuati on
Mr. Kondrick stated the City has spent a lot c� money, . along with state and
federal monies, . to clean up Moore Lake, . and now it has been learred that the
ducks are polluting the water. H� Gtated that even thouc� they cannot stop
the ducks and geese frcm being on the lake, . they would like to discourage
people frcm feeding then so that, . hopefully, . t3�is would gradually c3ecrease
the ntm�ber of ducks in the area aver a period of time
Mr. KQndrick stated also the City planned to plaoe a couple of sets of
artificial swans in Moore Lake this year. �e s�aans are natural enemies of
13�e geese and help keep geese away frcm t3�e lake.
�IQp.T b,� Kondrick, . seconded by Mr. Svanda, . to concur with the Parks &
Recreatia-► Catunission and to rewmnend to City Cotmcil t3�at a city ordinanoe
be draf ted that would make it illegal to feed the ducks on any publ ic
properties
Mr. Betzald stated he would vote against the mation only because he did not
think it wou].d be an enforoeable ordinanoe.
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Ms Sherek stated she ac�eed witi� Mr. Betzold
U�N A VOI� VO�IE, . I�DNDRICK AND SVP,NDA VOTIl� AYE, BE'I�L CLD AND SHIIZEK V�II�
NAY, , Q�iAII2�RSQV BEZ'L¢D LEQ,ARED THE NDTION FAII,ED BY A T1E VO►�.
Mr_. Svanda stated he aqreed wi� Mr. Kc�ndrick that something needed to be
done about the problen with the ducks and geese, . but he also agr�ed that it
would be very difficult to enforoe an ordinanae af this kind
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Mr. F3etzold stated he and Mr. Billings had discussed the oomposition of the
Planning Conmission and if there was possibly a better way to structure the
Planning Canmission. Apparently, . at o�ne time the Planning Ccxtmiission was a
se�arately appc�inted body, . different frorn the other commissions 'Itien,
there was the idea that there needed to be some continuity between
axrnnissions and the Planning Co�►ission, so it was decided that each one of
the Planning Canunission menbers, ather t3�an the c3�airperson, .�ould serve on
one of the commissions. But, . then the problen arose that the members
appoirited to the Planning C�4nission were not neoessarily representing the
points of view of the various commissions, and the commission members
oomglair�d about this Finally, . ti�e City Council asked each o�mmission to
elect a d�airperson and that chairperson would then sit on the Planning
Canm�ission, whid� was the present structure c� the Planning Conmission
Mr.. Betzold stated a question that came up in his discussion with Mr.
Billings was whether or not the Planning Canmission �ould have separately
ap�ointed menbers wi� aertain expertise (for eximple: legal backgrounds, .
banking backgroi�ds, . etc , such as the HRA has). If the Planning Conunission
decided they reeded people witi� different kinds of expertise in such areas
as zoning, ard�itecture, . for e�mple, . o�uld the Planning Commission appoint
people to do that wit3�out having to put those people on a commission and
then have t�e dzair of that c�omnission be on the Planning Co�unission?
Mr. Betzold stated another thou�t h
"burned out", . because it invalves a 1�
must usually attend at least three
dis�ouraging peogle who mic�t like to
because t3�ey cannot mak�e that kind of
: had was whether or not people get
�t � work, , and conmission dzairpersons
meetings a month. Th ey migh t be
j oin a oomnission but who cannot do it
time v�rmitment
Mr. Svanda stated he felt the present structure of
incl udi ng th e Pl anni ng C.o�nissi on, , wor ks very wel l. I
the old structure where the Planning Co�unission manbers
he would not be iriterested in 9erving on a commission, .
think he would have ar�y kind of aonduit to anyone else
outside ti�e staff person the �m¢nission works wi�. Zh
at least allaas the various oonanissions to have a dire
t3�e Planning Co�►unission to the City Cou�cil. Otheiwise,
would not waste his time being on the wnmissions
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the commissions, .
f th ey went ba ck t o
were all appointed, .
because he did not
in city government
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ct oonduit up th rouc�
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Mr. Robertson stated that as the commissions were structured now, . any
oanmission, including the Planning Co�nission, , had the authority to appoint
peogle with whatever expertise they felt was necessary to serve on a task
f�ae �isis �at expertise would then be available to the commission
whenever it was needed
Mr. Svanda stated his experienoe with t3�e Planning Conunission over the past
years has been very favorahle in terms of bringing in sozne o�f those outside
opinions and iriterests fran the various oomnissions, whidi, . in turn, . help to
�xavide a real good blend on the Planning Catunission.
Ms Sherek stated having t3�e d�airperson of ea� menber aonmission serve on
the Planning Commission provided a real comm�ication link between the
�onmissions Ot-herwise, . there was very little way of learning what the
ather oonmissions are doing
Mr. Robinson stated that at t�e present time there are six members on the
Planning Commission, and there were only four members present at this
meeting At or�e time when the Catan�ity Devel opnent Ccr�unission was act ive, .
there were seven menbers on the Conanission I�rhaps there was room for an
"at-large" menber. 'Il�is would make it easier to have a quortun and full
representaticn on the Congnission
Mr. S�anda stated he did not think getting a quorun has ever been a p�oblen.
He clid not think there has been more than one or two times in many years
where t3�ere has not been a quor�n, and it was the rare exception when they
have only had four menbers present
Mr. Rnbinson asked if t3�e Ccxtanission menbers felt four menbers were enouc�i, .
espe ci al ly when th ey have publ ic hear ings.
Ms Sherek stated she felt it was �e Planning Co�►ission was not making
final c3ecisions; they were only making reoorcmlendations to the City Co�ciL
Mr. FJetzold stated he j ust warited to bring this up to the Co�nission menbers
and ask then to give it some ti�ought in case this issue is raised at the
City Coimcil level.
M4TIQL� b� Mr. Kc�ndrick, . seo�nc3ed tr� Ms Sherek, . tv adj ourn the meetng Upon
a voice vote, . all voting aye, . Chairperson Betzold declared the motion
carried unanimously and the January 6, 1986, Planning Commission meeting
adj ourr�ed at 8: 40 ra m
Recpectfully sukmitted, .
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Reaording Secretary
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d481 UNIVERSITY AVE. N.E.
_ FRID�EY� MN 6s4sz � SPECIAL USE PERMIT SP #�' �
(d 1 Z)bT 1-S4b0 -
SRECIAt, USE pERMIT FEE $ 2 0 0. 0 0 RD� IPr # � 7� ��
9Qi FuTLID Pi,ANN]NG mI�II.SS IlOi�T l�ETIl�]G L1�,TE : 1% 2 7/ 8 8
9QiF�X7LID CITY Q�UlaCII. IrEErIl�1G L1ATE : 2/ 0 8/ 8 8
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PROPERTY INFORMATION
PROPERTY ADLRESS Parcel dixectly north of_Sub_Diqided Lot of 1131 72nd Avenue North
Fridley, Nfi�1 55432
L�AL DE�CRIPr�(kl:
LOT 1 BZACR �tACr/p,DDIT�I Auditors Subdivision ��89
pRE�II�T Zp�i� M-1 Light Industrial ��E 250'x225'=56,250 Sq. Ft.=1.29 Acres
SPEC�AL USE PIItMIT BEING APPLIED f�DR: Outside Stora�e
SDCTIC)N �' ZI�iE mDE :
* * * * * * * * * � * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
FEE OWNER INFORMATION
p� Crysteel Distributing, Inc. F�ipNE � 612/571-1902
p�p��s 1131 72nd Avenue North, Fridlev, MN 55432
S.T.GNA�URE,.= �I;�1- �. W tPn�v V�'«- 1]ATE 17 04 / 88 e�
Note to Contract Purchasers; Fee Owne�r� �u�t*s� f�o�m#p�i�r* *�rc�ce�s�ir�� ****
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-Purchasing fram Richard 0., Karen M., Kenneth 0., and Joan M. Haarstad .
_ PETITIONER INFORMATION .
� A. B. SYSTEMS, INC. PHONE # 507/288-9397
�� 209 Wood Lake Drive .,��i;,the,�s,�, j�ches
SI�GI�TgE Peter Schul ler�/'ti'"' �/�""��'��`� �,� 1/04/88
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c.�. Architects Plus, Crysteel Distributing, Inc.
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PUBLIC HEARII�
BEFURE �iE �
PLAI�I II� QONA�.SS ZON
Notioe is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the Planning
Conmission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431 University Avenue
Northeast on Wechesday, January 27, 1988 in the Council ChaQnber at 7: 30 p. m.
for t3�e purpose of :
Consic3eration of a Special Use Permit, SP #86-01, by A.
B• S�stems, Inc. , per Section 205.17.1.C.8 of the Fridley
City Code, to allaa exterior storage of materials and
equignent on that part of t3�e East 225 feet of the West
475 feet of t3�e Nor� Half of the Northeast Quarter of
t�e Southwest Quarter of Section 12, T-30, R-24, Anoka
Co�mty. Minr�esota, lying nor� of the South 405.60 feet
of said North Half of the Northeast Quarter of the
Southwest Quarter, the same being 1130 - 73rd Avenue N.E.
Any and all persons desiring to be heard shall be given an opport�mity at ti�e
above stated time and place.
DONALD BETL ¢D
C�IAIl2NP�N
PLAI�AIIl� Q�NIlKLSS LUN
Publish: January 13, 1988
January 20, 1988
Any questions related to this item may be referred to the Fridley Community
Developnent De�rtrnent, 571-3450.
SP ��88-01
A. B. Systems, Inc.
A. B. Systems, Inc.
209 Wood Lake Drive S.E.
Rochester, MN 55904
Crysteel Distributing, Inc.
1131 - 72nd Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Falck Properties
2446 Bunker Lake Boulevard
Anoka, MN 55303
Falck Properties
1135 - 73rd Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Ashland Oil Co.
3499 Dabney Drive
Lexington, KY 40509
Ashland Oil Co.
7315 Highway 65 N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Limpro, Inc.
1223 - 73rd Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Buzick & Flaherty
1201 - 73 1/2 Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
John W. Buzick
1201 - 73 1/2 Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
John W. Buzick
1150 - 73 1/2 Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
James R. Determan
1780 - 118th Avenue N.E.
Blaine, MN 55434
MAILING LIST
PLANNING 1/8/88
COUNCIL
Determan Welding �
1241 - 72nd Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Hydraulic Specialties
1131 - 72nd Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 555432
Crysteel Distributing, Inc.
Box T
Highway 60 E.
Lake Crystal, MN 56055
Ashland Oil, Inc.
P.O. Box 1400
Lexington, KY 40512
Ashland Oil, Inc.
7299 Highway 65 N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Donald W. Harstad
7151 Highway 65 N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Kurt Manufacturing
7191 Highway 65 N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Kurt Manufacturing
5280 Main Street N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Edric Association
5024 Normandale Court
Edina, MN 55436
c/o Edward Anderson
Resident
1200 - 72nd Avenue N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
(Donald Betzold
Chair of Planning)
(City Council Members)
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P�EI�D �: Jock Robertson, Gonmtaiity Developnerit Director
Nasim Q ureshi, City Manager
City Coua�cil M�nbers
I�END FROM: Jim Robinson, Planning Coordinator�,
1�+END �ATE : January 8, 1988
R�ARDII�: Moore Lake Ca�nons Driveway Request
On January 6, 1988 t�e Planning Commision held a rieic�borhood meetinng to
discuss Brody and Associates' request to have an additional curb cut onto
Rioe Creek Road across from 63rd Avenue. 1he developer mailed notioes to all
those neic�bors who were mtioed with ifie original developnent apprwals last
s�mer. O�ly one r�eic�bor atter�3ed and her concern did not relate to the
driveway proposal.
Staff's aonoern relates to the impact on the neic�borhood to the rnrth. �he
attached drawing illustrates a concept which we feel would provide t`
developers with the additional access they feel they need to market �. �
oenter witih minimtun impact on the neic�►borhood. 4his wnoept would alla� tor
�ailimited ingress at the new driveway, but would restrict egress to ric�t out
on].y. Neic,�borhood traffic a�uld acaess the oeriter at �is point �a wo�a
retain full oonvenienae of turning mwene,nts fram 63rd Avenue.
�e proposed closure a� ti�e Hic�way 65 median at 63rd Avenue will preclude
southbotmd �nnercial traffic fran using 63rd to bypass the lic�t at Ric�.
Creek Raad. Zhe proposed free ric�t at westbotmd Rioe Creek Road will reduoE
ti�e tenclency for north bo�md traffic to use 63rd.
Ot3�er v�naepts have been discussed however, �ese involve modif ications to
63rd whidz may parawe �aoceptahle to �e local residents.
7he Planning Caimission tahled this item to allow time for aonoept refir�ement
and expanded neic�borhood rntificatian. It would be helpful to ha�ve Council
input on ti�e attadzed oonoept and als� the desired mailing area for the next
Planning Cammision hearing.
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NEI+� ZD: Jock Robertson, C,o�satmity Deve�opuent Director
HEt'D FROM: Jim Robinson, E+lanning Coordinator
DATE: January 14, 1988
R�ARDII�: Prairie Treatment On University
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One of the more difficult decisions related to the detail c�sic� developaent
for the University Avenue a�rridor �oject is question of haw to treaf the
median and shoulders. On July 9, 1987 Barry Warner presented six concepts
for hanc�ing the median. One concept, which included prairie/wildflawer
planting, was further refir�ed b� staff and discussed with the HRA on August
13, 1987. Ron Bawen of Prairie Restoration Inc. discussed the �os and cons
of grairie plantings wit3i �e HRA on October 8, 1987.
Zhe oonsensus of staff is that t�e median and shoulders present a s�cial
c3esic� diallenge chie to their large area and harsh environment. �e three
basic options for treating these areas include: l. a manicured landscape with
turf shrub and tree plantings, with or without a jersey barrier; 2. a
prairie/wildflower treatment wi� compl�nentary shrub and tree plantings,
with or without a jersey barrier; 3. maintain the existing turf with
increased cutting with ap�opriate shrub and tree glantings, with or without
a j ersey barrier.
Zhe overriding problem with a manicured turf area is the maintenance
requirement to maintain grass ground cover at this scale. Without
maintenanoe whidz includes r�ular weed treatrnent, fertilizing and watering
the outc�rne of a turf restoration effort would be the same weedy unkempt
qro�c:cover conditions p�esent today. Recall that MnDOT will not increase
their maintenanoe progr�n beyond mawing 2-3 times per season.
Zhe most �npelling reason to use prairie is the reduction of the maintenanoe
requirenent. After planting, �airie would require 2-3 mawings the first
year and only one tfiercafter. Wildflowers would be seeded with short (6-8
ind�e) native qrasses to adlieve up to 508 flawers with full season bloo�ning
sequenoes. '�he major drawback to �airie is the �ree year maturation period
neec�d to attain sic,�ificant flowering and thus full appreciation of the
ooncept. A more subjective oonaern is the imac,�ry of prairie and the desired
image for Fridl�y and the oorridor.
In order to evaluate prairie, in writrast to a manicured l�vn treatment, two
test segments oould be imple�nted (see diagram) . This idea would involve
complete installation of all other corridor elements (intersection
treatments, li�ting and plantings ) except new median and shoulder ground
oover woul� be installec� in the F$airie test and turf test segments only.
All oihc-: existing t�::-� �:���11d recieve additional mowing only. Shrub and tree
plantings would stiT] � nsta].] �:�3 ':itersecticns and on �oulders. Zhese
gla��tings wouicl k� ,r: to ;� .�n*a�v to either turf or prairie.
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Zhis test would enab�le �e city to evaluate t3�e m�ai.ntenance associated with
raanicured turf while reviewing the visual qualities of the emerging prairie
segnent.
If t3�is soenario seems reasonable to the HRA staff wi11 work with Barton
Asd�man to develop the c�oncept. �is is the last maj or unresolved issue
delaying the o�mpletion of t3�e final c7esic�.
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1610 South Sixth Street Minneapolis, Minnesota 55454 612-332-0421
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Ron Bowpn Prairie Rest.orations
Jo,ck Robertsa�—FYidley Qaac�unity Develc�rnnt Director
�im Robinson—Fridley Planner
H�art�-Ascrno�n A..►soCiates, Iiyc.
Sept.e�ber 25, 1987
Design Issues Relating to a Prairie Planting on
University Avenue Corridor in Fridley
We have outlined a list of design issues ar�ci co�siderations �ich we
believe ryeed to be addressed as a part of the decision-makir�g process.
Infoi�mation provided by Barton-Asctm�an, Prairie Restoraticns or the staff
should respo�d to the follawir�g key points:
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Appropriate species shculd be select.ed to prwide for cantirnious oolor
ar�d visual appeal ti�rax�aut the c,�vwirrg season.
A�rdpri.ate species sho�uld be used to pravide for inte.rim water storage
3n the niral secticn's ditch a�aea.
73�e effect of exi,sting soil c�onditioa�s caz species selectioaz.
Zhe life expactancy of prairie planting5.
Zhe appropriate height of prairie plant;� to provide for safety
oor�,n'is .
'It�e amount of maintenanoe raquir+ed to establish ar�d maintain the
prairie plantir�gs.
Time required to establish the pzairie plants.
Cost of implementation.
�e inherent differer�ce between the urb�n azrl rural roac't�ray �ections
arxi haw this effects the design.
10 . MnDOrI' coa�oe�rns .
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11. Compatibility between the prairie and the abutting properties
larx3scapir�g.
12. Oo�patibility with alternate median trea�nents (i.e., Jersey barrier
trees).
13. O�npatibility with Pzv�ed int.ersectiaaZ trea�ents.
14. Appropriate trees ar�d shn�bs to cz�plement the prairie plariting.
-� 15. �he aa�aunt of political ar�d financial support to be p�vided by state
9�overrnnent.
16. '�e educati� prooess needed for P�ertY vwr�rs and the general
public to ac�pt the project.
17 . Oc�npatibility of a t�]i"a i rie with Fridley � e desired image.
These issues shauld be addressed to pzbppsly evaluate the prairie plarlting
implications on University Aver�we. Our presentation ar�cl subsequent question
ar�d answPS period should target these iteu�s.
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Decaember 11, 1986 Apprwed �1.43 M v�noept incl�7ing inter-
section and f rontage road 1 ic�ts. Budget
was to opver entire o�rrid�r. 5409 R,
li�its, 5522 K plants, 5500 R intersection.
January 9, 1987 Approvec3 Ellers desic� servioe for $1 R
for lic,�ting plan.
App�ril 9, 1987 Barton-Asci�man ok'd for detail desic� not
to exceed S23 R for first two eegnents; 57th
Avenue to 61st Avenue and 73rd Avenue to
Osborne Road.
May 14, 1967 Expanded o�ntract witfi Barton-Asdiman ok'd.
HI2A gave discretion to staff. fbtential
budget up to 544.6 R. Staff to assis� wit�
field supervisors tmder Barton-Asd�man
direction. Optional servioes: 53.6 R
proposed intersection impravenents, $4.2 R
median treatment, S6 K field observations.
July 9, 1967 Barton-Asd�man �sesented six meclian treat-
ment o�noepts. Staff �esented oonoept of
57th Avenue redevelopnent. I�tA expressed
interest in a�st analysis.
August 13, 1987 Staff proposed prairie wildflar�ers and turf
v�nvept with urban treaiinent at inter-
sections as a response to HRA converns about
maintenanoe and expense of alternative
installations.
September 10, 1987 i�iA updated on potential c�osts for traffic
si�al modif ications.
October 8, 1987 Ron Bvwen, prairie oonaept discussion. Barton
Asd�man �aesents wst estimate for Phase I
totaling 5957 R including; S82 R for traffic
si�a].s, as "worst case°. No action tyy I�tA.
Nwenber 5, 1987 Joint Co�mcil/HIiA oonferenoe HRA agrees to
$1.5 M f� Phase I implenentation.
Nweaber 12, 1987 �iP, ap�wed $1.5 M for University Avenue
Corridor by resolutian. J. Flo�a meno in
agerx7a outl ires o�sts of Fhase I proj ect.
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Corridor Study and the phased
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PLANNING DIVISION
MEMORANDI�M
I�MD ZO: Jock Robertson, 4�amnimity Develo�xnent Director
Planning Com¢nission M�nbers
MEM� FROM: Jim Robinson, Planning Coordinator
I�',MD L�TE : January 22 , 1988
SUBJECT: Planning Com¢nissi� Review o� Temporary Sic�nage Restrictions
The attacfied meno fran Lisa C�npbell, Go�3e Enforc�ement Specialist, addresses
the prokalen of the relatively unrestricted use of porta-panel signage by
m�l.ti-tenant busir�ess develogne.nts. 'Zhe existing code allows one sign per
business for up to ten days at a time and up to three times per year,
provided the ten day periods are r�t consecutive. This wording could allow
for each tenant in a shopping center to have a porta-par�el at the same time.
Multiple display of these signs at one location results in a blighted
appearance.
Based upon staff review of other cities'temporary/porta-ganel signage
regulations, I suggest we consider some combination of the following code
amenc�nents :
1. Stipulate no use of temporary/porta-panel signs with all new
comprehensive si� plan approvals.
2. Restrict the use of t�►porary/porta-panel signage to one time per year
ger business; this will allow for exposure for new business qrand
openings and major sales proenotions.
3. Restrict the use of porta�anels to one �it per tax parcelldevelo�nent
at any one time.
4. Allow for c�angeable message sic�age an pylon sic�s as a substitute for
porta- panels.
5. Allaw for banners and balloons as temporary pranational. sic,page.
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PLANNING DIVISION
MEMORANDUM
Jim Robinson, lanning Coordinator
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Lisa Ca�npbe � �Code Enforoement
January 20, 1988
Porta-Par�els
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As per your request I have ao�npleted research on the use of porta-panels in
other suburbs. The specific poirit of wnaern was hvw other cities addressed
the problen of more than one porta-par�el per shopping center f rontage . The
questians asked were:
1. Does your city pennit the use of porta��el sic,�nns?
2. If yes, what are the restrictions your plaoe an their �se?
3. If mt, haw long has their use been prohibited?
�4. If rnt, cb you offer any altQrnative temporary sic,page?
Below is a narrative description of the findings, follvwed by a summary and
staff reooa�mendations.
Apple Valley: Prahibits the use of porta-panels. Their use has been
prohibited since January l, 1988. They do allow
alternative temporary sic�s such as banners and balloons.
A permit is requirecl for all temporary signs. They also
allaw new developers to inoorporate the changeatale sic�age
into their new sic�.
Maple Grave: Prohibits the use of porta-panels. The staff person I
spoke with stated that porta-panels have never been
permitted. The City does allow alternative temporary
sic�s such as balloons and banners. All temporary signs
require a permit.
New Bri�►tai: Prohibits the use of porta-panels. Porta-panels have
never been permitted. The City does allow alternative
temporary sicp�age and all temporary signs require a
permit.
Minnetonkaa Porta-panels are pernnittecl in Minnetonka. Their use is
limited to 60 days per year, in two rnnoonsecutive 30 day
perials. This is on a per b�usir�ess basis, hawever, there
is a limit of m more than three signs on any parcel at
one time. A permit is requirecl for all temporary signs.
New developers are sometimes required to enter sign
aovenants which preclude the use of temporary signage.
PLEASE NO►1'Ss In an earlier memo to you I incorrectly
stated that Minnetonka prohibits p�rta-panels. The City
does allaw porta-panels as rioted above.
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Robinson, Jim
January 20, 1988
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B,laine: Porta�panels are permitted in Blaine. Their use is
limited to four nonoonsecutive two week/14 day perioci� per
year, for a total of 56 days per year. This is on a per
business basis. A permit is required for all temporary
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There have been cases where shopping oenter managers have
attempted to abuse this policy. One petitioner has azgued
that at 56 days per year and 30 business he coul d hav e a
temporary sic� up all year ro�md. Blair�e has argued that
this is not allawed under the current writing of the
ordinanoe anc3 the t�uusi�ss owrer may take then to a�ourt.
Plymouth: Allows temporary sic�s. Their use is limited to four
nonoonsecutive two week/14 day periocts per year. This is
a total of 56 days per year. This on a per busine ss
basis, without o�nsic3eration to multiple tenant buildings.
A permit is required for all tiemporary sic�s.
St. Louis Park: Allows temporary signs. Their use is 1 imited to four
nonconsecutive 30 day periocls per year . This is a total
of 120 days. This on a per business basis without
oonsideration to multiple tenant buildings. A permit is
required for a temporary sic�.
S�ring Lake Park: Allaws temp�rary signs. Their use is limited to three
nonoonsecutive two week/14 day periods per year. This on
a per busir�ess basis without consideration to multiple
tenant. buildings. A permit is required for all temporary
signs.
Simmary and Reaomnendatians
Of the ei�t cities surveyed, three prohibited the use of porta-panels. Of
the five cities which allawed porta panels only orie restricted the number of
sic,g�s to be displayed on a property three at ane time. This limit was three.
All of the five cities pern�itting porta-panels allow businesses a greater
rumiber of tatal days per year (i.e. 56, 60,and 1�) than the City of Fridley.
We allaw a total o� 30 days a year in three nonconse cutiv e 10 day periods.
The location requirenents of sic�s with regard to setback varied from City to
City. Minnetonka allows the si� to be plaoed 18 inches out of a setback.
Where the other four cities simply required that the sigz be plaoe a certain
clistanoe frwn the right-of-way. This distanoe varied from anywhere from 10
to 30 feet. C� the cities surveyed 37.5$ prohibited porta-panels. A11 of
these cities allawed alternative temp�rary sic�age.
Staff reoo�nends that the City either restrict temporary signs to one on
display per property at ane time or prahibit their use in the City.
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PLANI�IING DIVISION
MEMORANDUM
PEND ZO: Jim Robinson, Planning Coordinator
1�END FROM: Li� Campbell, �de Enfa�aement
NEND DATE : January 13, 1988
SUBJE(T: Temporary S ic�age/Skywood Mall at 52nd & Central N. E.
On January 13, 1988, as per your request I oonducted an onsite inspection of
the temp�rary sic,p�age at Skywood Mall. 7his inspection revealed two (2)
por tatal e si c�s (yell ow por ta-par�el ) at ti�e west r i c� t-of -way on S ic�way # 65
N. E. , between 52nd and 53rd. OF the two sigis one has a permit and one doe s
not. I have spoken with the mar�agement o� Skywood Mall and they have agreed
to renwe tize ulpermitted sicfi by 3:00 p.m �ursday January 14, 1988. I will
reinspect at that time to to detQrmir�e a�omplianoe.
Rec$rcling the pco4len of more than one portatale sign on a street f rontage at
one time the Fridley sign ordinance does not explicitly prohibit this
pcactive. �e policy regarding portatale sic�s as stated in the ordinaoe is
that portable sigis may be displayed after a permit is issued by the City.
i�rmits are limited to three (3) times a year per business, and only for
rono�nsewtive ten (10) day periocls. 7his prwision cnuld be interpreted to
allvw one sic,g� per busir�ess witi�out regard to whether other businesses along
the street frontage or wit�in a develognent have pulled permits for portable
sigis and have then on display.
We o�uld d�ange ti�e ardiranoe tr� adding prwisions similar to those limiting
the use af other tenp�rary sic�s, sudz as a�nstruction and real estate signs.
�hese are:
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1. One (v sic� per street frontage.
2. A prwisian whid� w�].d 1 imit sluare footage of the p�rtahle si�.
3. Loc,�te no closer t�an 100 feet to a building outside a� t3�e develogaent.
4. A minimun distanae a�f tQn (10) feet fran ar�y �operty lir�e or driveway.
I have also spok,en with the staff o� several ather dties: Blaire, Plymouth,
New Bri�ton, Maple Grove, Apple Valley and Minnetonka. Four of the six
cities gdlibit ti�e use of portable si�s. �ese are: Maple Grove, Apple
Valley, NEw Bric�ton, and Minnet�ka. Maple Grwe has never permitted the use
of portahle sig�s. Apple Valley has pcdzibited their use since 1987o Apple
Valley allaws c�angeahle sic�age wit�iin the desi� of new plyan sic�s. I have
requested a a�p� of their r�ew ordinanoe. 1he cities of Blaine and Plymouth
allow p�rtable signs and have more liberal policies than our awn. �ese
cities allaa portaUle sic�s on a per busiress basis with no restrictions on
the n�unber per street frontage. Blair�e has run into similar problems as we
have with businesses, especially shopping oenters, attempting to abuse the use
of portahle sic�s.
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January 11, 1987
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183 Uni�•ersit�• A�•e. East
St. Paul, MN 55101•2526
(612) 227-5600 (FA�: 221-0986)
Jim Robinson
Planning Coordinator
6431 University Ave. N.E.
Fridley, MN 55432
Dear Mr. Robinson:
Pete Tritz asked me to respond to a question of yours. This is
a follow-up to our recent phone conversation on the matter. It
is my understanding that Anoka County is acquiring, by
condemnation, a right-of-way within the city. The result of the
acquisition would be that several parcels of property would come
to violate set-back requirements contained in the city
zoning ordinance (they are now in compliance). You asked
whether the city might be compelled to grant variances in such a
case if they were requested in the future.
What you are referring to are damages based on the presumption
that, where only a part of a parcel of land is taken, the
landowner is entitled to consequential damages for the damage
inflicted on the remaining property. Alexandria Lake Area
Serv. Region v. Johnson, 295 N.W.2d 588 (Minn. 1980). These
damages are often called nseverance damagesn.
From my reading of case law in this area, a city c�ulan't be
compelled to grant a varfance, or amend its zoning ordinance to
assure continued use of the property. Rather, the damage caused
by the condemnation (in this case, the creation of a
non-conformity with the existing zoning ordinance) is icaken into
account in determining the condemnation award. See County of
Ramsey v. Stevens, 283 N.W.2d 918 (Minn. 1979) (The existence
of a zoning ordinance is a proper matter for consideration in a
suit for the condemnation of property.) See also City of New
Ulm v. Schultz, 356 N.W.2d 846 (Minn.Ct.App. 1984) (The
resulting nuneconomicaln size of the landowners property goes to
the amount of compensation), and State, by Lord v. Pahl, 254
Minn. 349, 95 N.W.2d 85 (1959) (Where the condemnation of
property results in a nonconformity with city set-back
provisions, the property owner must nevertheless comply with the
zoning ordinance.)
While I've found no Minnesota cases directly on point, there is
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a New York case you should take a look at. In Re Old
Riverhead Road, 48 Misc.2d 39, 264 N.Y.S.2d 162 (1965), the
side-yard width alongside the condemnee's restaurant was reduced
to five feet, while the city zoning ordinance required a ten
foot set-back. The court held that since the condition was
created by the county (which condemned the property), it should
be made to compensate the property owner for this aspect of
damage.
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The cases also suggest that the probability of a zoning
ordinance change affects the condemnation award. If there is a
reasonable probability that the property might be rezoned, or a
variance granted, this evidence might go to establish the
damages award. State, by Lord. On the other hand, if a zoning
amendment or variance is only speculative, this fact has been
held not a proper matter for valuation purposes. County of
Ramsey.
In summary, it wouldn't appear that the city would be forced to
amend its zoning ordinance when faced with the above situation.
Rather, the fact that the county's condemnation creates a
non-conformity goes to the valuation of the condemnation award.
I hope this has been helpful. As is our policy with legal
matters, I am forwarding a copy of this letter to the Fridley
City Attorney.
Sincerely,
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Jay Squires
Research Assistant
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
HUMA�J RESOURCES COMPIISSIOPJ
OCTOBER 1, 1987
CALL TO ORDER:
Chair�erson Sherek called the October 1, 1987, Human Resources Commission
meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
RbLL C/�LL:
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Menbers Present: Sue Sherek, Claudia Dodge, Dick Storla, Paul u!estb��,
Francis van Dan
Mer�bers Absent: None
Otl�ers Present: Bill Hunt, Assistant to the Citv Manager
Rick Pribvl, Finance Director
APPROVAL �F SEPTE�IBER 17, 1987, HUP9AtJ RESOURCES C0�1�1ISSIO�J MINUTES:
MOTION BY MS. DODGE, SECONDED BY MR. WESTBY, TO APPROVE THE SEPTEMBER 17, 1987,
HU1�AN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SHEREK DECLARED THE' MOTIDN
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
APPROVAL OF AGEtdDA:
MO'_"ION BY MR. WESTBY, SECONDED BY MS. DODGE, TO APPRO[�E THE AGENDA AS WRITTF,N.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SHERF.K DECLARED THE r90TION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. OLD BUSINESS:
a. Review City of Fridley's Data Utilization Policy
"�1s. Sherel: stated that at the last r�eeting, i1r. Hunt had told the
Cor.imission that the present data systen was under revision. She
asl:ed �4r. Pribyl to give the Commission an overview of what was
happening.
'1r. Pribyl stated he has been with the �ity seven years. His previous
position was Finance Qrficer, and in that position was responsible For
the accounting area. He stated he had revie��ued the Cor,imission's past
minutes in order to �'ar�iliarize himself with the history of the data
utilization policy topic.
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11r. Pribyl stated he understood that the Commission was sor�ewhat
familiar with the way the City has structured, to some degree, the
conputer envi ronnent a�i thi n the �i ty, and �vi th how the �1IS group was
formed. Sor�eti�vhere in the area of 22 years ago, that particular group
was formed because of what was going on within the City as far as con-
straints being put on the City and because of the fact that the vender
the City was tied into was not performing the way the City felt it should.
t1r. Pribyl stated the City was already at a point of saturation in
trying to figure out how to expand the systems they were on, The data
bases (the systems thenselves) that were the topic of the Commission's
conversations were never developed to the point where they were highly
usable. As such, the systems kind of fell by the wayside and no one
really ever used ther� to the degree that had been expected. So, for the
last 2-2z years, a lot of the systems the City envisioned that would be
sharing information share probably only cor�mon elements of address and
sor�e other general inforr�ation. Because of that lack of developr�ent,
things just never happened, and the P�:S group never really assembled much.
11r. Pribyl stated the City Ptanager basically put a moratorium on any equip-
ment purchases until there was sor�e direction within the �ity again.
So, the main fo.cus was to put some direction into where the City wanted
to go, cost effectively, and to solve most of the information problems
in the city departments. There was sor^e great concern as to how to
actually facilitate expansion. Eventually, the City engaged a consultant
whose specialty was in both hardware and software and municipal utiliza-
tion of both of those.
t1r. Pribyl stated that at this time, the City has engaged a firm, Chapel
�onsulting, and hopefully 5y Oct. 16, they will structure a complete
needs analysis that will focus on both hardware an� softv�are for all
departments within the City. Qased on his conversations with that group,
it appeared that current technology today focuses more on networl:ing of
PC's than going to utilization of nini's and main�`rames and sharing data
base information, lJhat he thought might come back fror� the consultant
was that there are various needs that can be more easily dealt with at
the micro level with network PC's than utilization of mini's with large
shared data bases.
Mr. Pribyl stated another activity he foresaw the City g�tting into was
revitalization of the t1IS group, That definitely was a need and was
postponed to date mainly because of the lack of direction. As of the
end of October, there should be a revitalized direction again and, hope-
fully, the �1IS group will come into power again to actually oversee
developments of both hardware and software. One of his concerns was also
voiced by the City's auditor who made the following comment on the EDP
Planning Cor�mittee in his management letter:
"The City should have an EDP Planning �ommittee consisting of
staff personnel from various departments which meets periodically
to revieN the City's EDP needs, Consideration should be given in
the devel opr�ent of a�,�ri tten EDP pl an . At a mi nir�ur�, a 1-3 year
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HU'tAN RESOUP,CCS CON�1ISSI0�! t±�ETI�JG, OCTOBFR 1, 1987 p���- 3
plan should be developed and identify priorities, projects,
training needs, and resources necessary to achieve the
established objectives. Future FDP personnel, hardware�
and software requirer�ents should be defined in the plan. ''he
plan should be reviewed and approved by the Planning '
�ommittee."
"1r. Pribyl stated one of the developments, in conjunction with the
cor�puter consultant, was that by the time the consultant finishes up
his task, the City will have a five-year plan that will hopefully
guide the City through the next five years as far as development, and a
conp'ete needs analysis which,taken through completion,will hopefully
bring new hard�•�are and software into the �ity. It was also his desire
to have the !1IS group continually update this five year plan on an
annual basis so they always knovr where they are going.
�1r, f'ribyl stated another concern he noticed in the Human Resources
Cor�mission minutes was that there be a review of what information is
cor�ingled, and what common elements can be brought into focus by one
user. He stated that with the fracture-type ne�working he thought
would go on, that would probably take place naturally, But, through
sharing of information between network PC's, it still might be sor�e-
thing that could be achieved.
Mr. Pribyl stated that was a synopsis of what has happened in the last
2a years. They are hoping now that as o� the end of October, they will
go on to develop an RFP for both hardware and software and carry on
with the deveiopr�ent of their computer utilization and also the internal
structure of how the City proceeds in that direction.
P1r. LJestby stated that if the City went to a multiple PC system and
sor�eone di d want to gai n data on a res i dent i n Fri dl ey, ho►•� di ffi cul t
would it be and how would the City know that sor�eone was getting more
information than was needed? bJas there so�e kind of check or balance
or safety system that would shut the information off if too much
information was being gathered?
P1r. Pribyl stated he did not know what the difference between that would
be from what goes on ri ght now. It :is pol i cy ri ght now that i f a
taxpayer comes in and requests information, a staff person will query
that person a little bit on why the information is needed to help
safeguard: w�at potentially might becorr� of that in�`ormation. It is
still public information, but the City is extr��ely concerned as to
how the information will be use d.
"1r. Pribyl stated the City was extremely concerned about how inforr�ation
was used, and they also try to get an i�adividual's�name when a person is
requesting information. They are extremely sensitive to giving out
inforr�ation,especially in relation to business people wanting to get lists
of residents. To his kno�►ledge, it has always been city policy that a
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HU�1AN RESOIJP,CES C(?�1"1ISSIOP� MEETING, OCTOBER 1, 1987 p��r 4
person is welcor�e to cone in and look at lists, but the City will not
run copies of mailing lists or labels. One of his concerns was: How
far do they take that? Do they also deal with civic organizations in
the same way, such as the Lions Club, Chamber of Commerce, etc.? To
date, they have never really had a master list of the resid�nces in
Fridley. They do have a list of registered voters on a data base, but
it is not set up to run labels.
�1r. Hunt stated they have addresses of all residences hooked up to
water, but the City does not know, for example, if a residence is an
apartment building or a single family home. They have the name of the
owner, but not the residents.
Mr. Pribyl stated someone can go to the utility billing system and get
that information, but that person cannot then get some other offshoot
that deals with possibly special assessments, because they are frag-
mented type systems. They do not have a tie to connect them at this
tine. Based on what he has seen happening in the computer area, he did
not think they would see a large mini that would have a huge data base
and the ability to connect everything through a master inventory of
addresses anymore.
�1s. Sherek stated she works in data services, and she stated they are
seeing what �1r. Pribyl had stated earlier--a move away from the mini's
and mairrfrar�es for data base purposes. A very specific reason for that
was the concern over comingled data--that so much data is able to be
maintained that it could be abused by someone, particularly in the case
where a lot of computers are being networked together, and the ability
to break into a system fror� outside then hecomes greater. So, if the
data is fragmented and each fragmented data is protected by a password
access syster�, the chance of data being compromised decreases dramati-
cally as you project the data at different levels and fragment the data
around the syster�.
"1r. Pribyl stated he still felt a valid purpose for the '"IS group was
that when a new system or new elenent to a systen was recommended to be
designed or loaded into the data base, one of the criteria to be investi-
gated by the group would be to make sure there isn't an element there
that would tend to bring together some information that someone might be
able to use in a destructive means.
Mr, van Dan stated he was concerned not so much with the breaking of
the security seals, but rather the availability of ready information--
voting records, census information, etc. l•Jhat was the obligation of
the municipality to share its data base with, for instance, the county
or the state?
Mr. Pribyl stated it depended upon the usage of the elements that are
in the data base. If by statute there was some control, the City had
no recourse but to give out the elements requested. If it was a matter
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of convenience, then the City had sor�e control over it. He felt the
City would be very reluctant to give up inforr�ation that does not seer�
to be under a statutory control of the State or Federal government unless
there was some facilitating that would assist the City in some way.
But, even at that, there would be a large degree of concern�and investi-
gation into what the potential outcor�e r�ight be of that sharing of
information.
t1s. Sherek stated that when sor�eone comes into City Hall to any of the
people at the front desks and asks for information, to whom was that
person referred?
Mr, f�unt stated that,technically, the person was referred to the City
�1anager's office, but there was no designated person or persons at ti�is
tine. He stated there really has not been�a problem, because it does
not happen very often.
P1r. Pribyl stated there have not really been people cor�ing in, other than
salespeople who come in trying to get massive anounts of d��ta. Since
there was no labeling function anyway, and the fact that the person
requesting the information must write dov�n all the information, it was
discouraging to ther�. Even if the City had that mailing list capability,
they would not release that information, and that was city policy.
t1r, Pribyl stated he applauded the Cor�mission's concerns. f�e wanted the
Conmission to be aware that the City was extrer�ely sensitive to the giving
out of information. Within his department, any tir�e there is a request
for information regarding tax purposes, that request is referred directly
to him and he tries to handle it in the best way possible.
"1r. Hunt asked if t1r. Pribyl had any ohjection to the wording of the
policy recommendation made by the Commission in December 1�85.
!1r. Pribyl stated he did not have any objections to it. He vras in favor
of a clear policy as far as the types of information that can be
released and in what form. The only thing he would question was where
that responsibility might land as far as a central location.
Ms. Sherek stated the central location in decentralized organizations
did not always have to be a single person. It can be a designated
person within each departr�ent. Sometimes it might not even be the depart-
ment head but a managerial person who would knoa� enough to bring any
request or concern to the attention of the department head or City �1anager.
P1s. Sherek stated the big concern she had regarding a eentral location
or a designated person was that in dealing with City Hall, there are
a lot of tir�es during the year when there are a lot of very young people
working at City Hall answering phones, etc. A lot of things could happen
without these people realizing the types of ramifications if they felt
they Nad the right to release information without consulting soneone.
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P1s. Sherek stated she felt that for data base management, a review by
a cor�r�ittee was soroetimes no review at all and it was often better to
have a person responsible for the revie�v, /ls was being done where she
works, when things exceed a certain level or more elements are being
added or bases are being integrated, then that was brought �o the
cor�mittee; otherwise things were handled by one person who had the
responsibility for data base management,
The Comm7ssion members reviewed the policy recommendation with "r. Pribyl
and P1r. Hunt and made some minor revisions,
P1r. Storla stated that if a handicapped person whose name and address
was identified for fire prevention purposes wished to have his/her name
rer�oved from that list, could that be done? He stated many handicapped
people probably do not even know there is such a list. They should know
about it and have the option of having their names removed if they so
choose.
t1r. Hunt stated he did not know the answer to that, but he would certainly
try to find out.
P4s. Sherek stated the answer to that question in general terms was that
if an element of data on an individual is not required by some statute
to be maintained, the individual has the right to request that data to
be removed.
"1r. Pribyl stated he could assure P1r. Storla and the Commission members
that the information or data kept on people on systems at the City were
not extraneous to activities that are being done. Elements su�h as
handicapped information exists on the fire system only for the safety
of those individuals. The City was very particular about what they put
on the system.
t1s. Sherek stated she felt the idea of a policy couering the eleMents in
a data base becomes real critical when you start putting data bases out
on PC's, particularly if the software is the "user friendly" type of
software that is very common nov� where people can go in and add data
elements to a data base ther�selves. It should be made clear in each
department of the city that they cannot just start adding data and that
any ct�anges being made to the standard data bases are first subject to
policy review.
Mr. Hunt �tated one thing that was difficult was trying to purge information
already on the system, because according to the Data Practices Act, once
that information is there, it must be kept forever. They are now trying
to get permission to get rid of sor,te information.
�1s. Sherek stated it seemed to her that one of the changes in the Data
Practices llct last year was the right to remove elements not specifically
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required by the Data Practices Act. She did not know if that change
passed or not; but if it did, it might be a good time to get rid of
the elements the City did not need, especially du.ring the changeover
of the system.
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Mr. Pribyl stated that on financial applications, just because of the
space requirements, there is a natural purging process that goes on
every year. There was no purging process right no�•r for the unified
data base,because it was not being used to the extent they thought it
would be. The purging of data should be something that was addressed
by the MIS group after the new process was completed.
Mr. Pribyl stated it was his understanding that on Jct. 6, the City
���ill receive the needs analysis and that will basically direct the
hat°dware and software. The City Council will re�►iew that and based on
their reaction to it will either pursue the second phase of the study
or terminate at that point in time. If they proceed into the second
phase which was the development of the RFP for both hardware and soft-
ware, by January/February they will be reviewing some of the systems
in the hardware and possibly sometime in June procure hardware, Part
of this process will also include the remodeling of City Hall.
�1s. Sherek thanked t1r. Pribyl for coming and sharing this information
with the Commission.
MOTION BY MR. STORLA, SECONDED BY MS. DODGE, TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING POLICY RECOMMENDATION AS REVISED AT THE OCT.
OCT. 1, 1987, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSIDN MEETING:
"AS CITY STAFF IS REVIEWING ITS ENTIRE MANAGEMENT INFORMATION
SYSTEM, THF, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MAKES THE FOLLOWING
RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THE MUNICIPAL DATA BASES, THE
DEPARTA9ENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY DATA BASE, AND ANY OTHER DATA
BASES THAT MAY BE UNDER THE COIITROZ OF THE CITY OF FRIDLEY:
A. THAT THE CITY'S MANAGEMENT INFORMATION COMMITTEE GIVE
HIGH PRIORITY TO ITS FUNCTION AS AN INTERNAL POLICY
REVIEW BOARD,
B. THAT THE FUNCTIONS OF THE POLICY REVIEW BOARD INCLUDE:
(I) DEVELOPING WRITTEN CRITERIA FOR ADDITIONS TO, OR
RETENTION OF, DATA ELEMEN'!'S IN THE DATA BASES. THE
CRITERIA SHOULD CONSIDER NOT ONLY THE POTENTIAL
EFFECT OF NEW DATA ACCUMUZ�ATED, BUT ITS POTENTIAL
IMPACT WHEN COMBINED WITH OTHER DATA ELEMENTS
ALREADY IN ANY DATA BASE. ON A SCHEDULED PERIODIC
BASIS, ALL THE ELEMENTS IN THE DATA BASES SHOULD BE
REVIEWED IN LIGHT OF THE ESTABLISHED CRITERIA .
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HUPIAN RESOURCES COP1PIISSI�PI NEETIP�G, OCTOBER 1, 1987 PAGE 8
(2) REQUIRING A CLEAR WRITTEN STATEMENT OF PURPOSE FROM
THOSE REpUESTING TNE ADDITION OF ELEMENTS Ta THE
DATA BASES.
(3) DEVELOPING A CLEAR AND CONSISTENT POLICY FOR �
RELEASING INFORMATION.REQUESTED. CONSIDERATION
SHOULD BE GIVEN TO VESTING THE RESPONSIBILITY OF
ADDRESSING REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION IN A CENTRAL
LOCATION WITHIN TNE CITY.
(4) SEGREGATING POTENTIALLY SENSITI[�F; DATA ON SINGLF.
PURPOSE DATA BASES, MICRO-COMPUTERS, OR OTHER RECORDS."
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYF., CHAIRPERSON SHEREK DECLARED THF.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2. NC1J BUSIPJCSS:
a. Review 4Jorkplan and Schedule
Ms. Dodge stated she would have a guest speaker at the Plov. 5 meeting
to talk about adult literacy.
ADJOUR����1ENT:
MOTION BY MS. DOLGE, SECOP7DED BY MR. WF.STBY, TO ADJOURN TNE MEETING. UPON A
VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SHEREIC DECLARED THE OCTOBER 1, 1987,
HU19AN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:38 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Lynn Saba
P.ecording Secretary
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�.mr. uAc �In �.•m�x•raWrc ��f Minn�aq•r's
�1�uc ttun SlIW .uneys wero mailal an
h�*rml� �� tottccuncs aad a�her pofn-
+unulc in thc :1linrkvi6i rral cstalc irrhWtp.
AAuW 9 per�rcm d Ihe sun�}s wrre rcturn-
cJ hy tlk «.Fxm.c Je:rlli�. cnuubh to bc
a.�ncidarJ.t�i,litally.ignifrynt: lK�sr,
a uf denor was nut calcula�pd,
� �ay�. a� a�r �.;r�a
�•hemaehrt as Jr.•clopers, Z/ petrem at
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a. in dut oida. I�I�, ba16
d; v�Qes� tlrse a� � oa the �twe_
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aer 1he neut five y�ata, tespo�dents in.
d'ia1Dd dnt Ododtk. Nix�d6ury. Dulwh ard
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dwt de►dapmrnt io the cvrtemly hot
ioirlfein aub�u6� tn�y ood aff in drc ua�t fi�s
XaR, n d�e � beco+eie �u�ued �rtlh
dMlapma�b ad dr pnpulation concrwes u
iir�ase in �he NbaJbury aid Oakdak
(�tS: m citY drat nnkod art�o�K
�mc �,.�a � ean e �u �
� � Itoc� r,�laMS�,er� w�ne '��den-
a���,���
�.ould also be de�elapment Ine spatt d�.
— ser�p reuil ka dk �iu of rypes orae�+dop.
rtmt with the mast pooeraial aer the rcu fi�e
tcys, fi�0o"td by sinpk-�mi17 ho�uin8. uo-
mro�o�ed land aid induscriaUwaRhau.e_
i�lG 1lSldpllli) �10llStilj. YflIflIPfOYEd �
� lapmrrns and d�� loolc a�tractive.
I494�wridasenesasa� �.In-
itia�ly, lo�aa wla reloc�ed fram theit
Mi^�idS+im Pwl dTiees oo fh Ij91
cortidot ie�etse oamnaaed. Ba. n time
went ae, dwepeopIe began moving ro the
xwthern suburbs, -putting pressure on dx
ti� a famil� a�d stnp�reu 1
Sinoe taideatial developme�t ire
eoeniderabk lard actage ard sort�uma
sigmfieaot dcrelupmeiuu lead time, il ia uot
wrprising lhat rrr lud is alw ri�ned w�h
�rnt iale+ut aer fhe nat fi���
on die developmeac aulook
Surytig6t pemmt d the mspondma
ag�ee Ibe pnen e�e ra+id be in dm B peioat
b 10 peroeet iaoge oee �ear hom now
I.d�deaa0ddn�lopen waeiucluseatt�aed
� � .
7Ue �apordrna also xe a cotrtinuing
aeed o�er th nat five yran mWard mae
e4ui�' dm deb. Siuy�Bve Peroent d�ou�t
m010 e¢t'tty wOUld bE uted b fsma0e da13
tICQ yeu, old di�t erressed b 73pa dor
drc 6�e�ear period. Bewtse syrdiu �aee
nw foa�sed aaeieaaqposrcivear6 fbd-
yidd dals. �d Imden �1way� fw�a toa�sed
m a�h eo�. it b mc.�rn.� drt urcp ooa-
r�� r��. ��y.�n� R�
�� �t�e � d wyu sr,�«.,,, ��,,.,,�
wu�e wi0 u+cneae during drc �ortu�
� P��B� 8rows to 60 pen'en� forx
IiMe �ear ame fiartie.
Ef[eet of'ILs Refarm
am
Wlid� die Tax Re�'orm �4�c ot Iti,b bec:
{1W � M� Cp61dt�G iOtl�ct'UR.15 4
impoct oo dr itdustry. Nw t}ut ue hnt
ed widi the ne,w rules for a�ear. �+inion,
drc acual eflSecu d� idorm rrc Rginr.
b take sh�pe,
� yndicatar.s we�
the most precaler
among those tclro fe�
p�perty volues migl.
d�ecrease over t1 �e ne�
}ive years. Hou: eLe,
mast who beliece rrnx
erty valu�s uill increas
during the next fiL
t,�a�s belieUe the inc reas
will be attribt�table t.
non Taac Act rea,�,�s.
A Ytar ago, manY we�e PnrPh.,; :r.g rcr
would skyrocket due !o loet t�x henrtiu t,
o�'ee►s aad their desite m mvnt�m yiek:
However. aily f1 penrnt dtht rc.pun,kr
d�ought e�s h�d increased Junn, the p:�
year�becauredthe Act. Thirtyti�c percc
ih there was po change. am1 :�� perce
thought rrnn had decteaseJ duc tn rnm-T.
Act �oru, wdi as m wer-wpply of can
taercial sparo.
O�er�hefive-ywtimeperiaf,sl perce•
of dk rcspwxtems Ne�ie.e ui rc;,m„ w
cause �er� W trnws higher, huwe.er. digh
�r � �� iaz aR��� � n�i�
eenb will mote lilely climb fur r.,m-Tac .�•
Ruons.
Orer fhe nat five rsars, 6? perccnc da
%[�IlV�Fi11�1C11\ �:1��Ii'�M1�� 1:
w•hile 14 peRetu 6rlh�r th, rc wiU }
signific�tn change. and?S M1r.em brlie�
.�� �,ta �ty daR�. �
Syndicawrs MCft IIIC mu.i pir�ale�
um�g tlwse w ho klt propert� �.I:,cs migi
deerwe o�er the nat fi.e ye:u,. H�µs+e
most who belie�e pniperty �rlua wdl u
C�ase during the next five ytan hclie�e U
increasc will be attribut•rbk tu r•n Tau .L
�easom. Darelopen aaJ sncl�ca���rs wer
more lilcely �o belie�e dw �alu« rrr! r�lu
movements will be affected M �he Ta
The mast cirnnatic eitects du� n�frmn o
the rcal esate indusuy accurding ��
�sspo�denls viere passirs loss IimiWUUn•
eliminuioa d capital gain dedu.•ti�ms an
irneriment �od Syodieatio�
Narlr 70 pereeat d the re.pm.+ents fe1
faeign unrstmem m�I�mc�au n.,l est�
�x�uld ae+tinue ou iir�eatie wer the nre� fi.c
y�eus. tte.�x,naenc, eetieMe tnc r,; ...,:-
qPcs u( p;�prty w�ll cununuc c,, n�rnC.
mo� fiam faei,gn � activiry . high
�a�f6Oebuildi�s. �epoirl rera�l m�usarr
Respoedeno 6eliere the grwtev efTect o+
fineign im�sunrnt in U.S. �1 �.�:�e � wer Ihr
nect fi�e �rars will he eo m.�rea�. ......�etiu,n
ud raluce ields.
�t! K7D�I b rtNlf! Ilnit
ddrit �ea! eshm 'tmesnnen� �wer the nptt
five yeats ipe� ty u uppaaf tu ,k Mpo�i-
tian:, aeeording to 'S percent uf the
ndmO. Those pn�pettics b�ncfni�
sa„ � �,�,. �;�i e� n�p,-
rise aflioelwiklir�ga (m�at favroJl. r_yad!
Ronl mtl�s. �lu-4mily ptojn'c+. f.r.-ti�e
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' Estatc Journal Page 13
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Which of the follawing do you consider to be
a"hot spot" currendy and/or expect to be a
"hot spot" five years from na►�� for re:il estate
development?
Cumendy Five Years
Bloomington 89.2 40.9
Brooklyn Center 68.7 50.7
Brooklyn Park 70.1 64.6
Burnsville 75.7 58.8
Duluth ' 28.0 82.0
�g� s9.3 n.o
Eden Prairie 89.9 63.4
Edina 85.9 42.3
ridle S 1.6 61.3
Golden ey .2 63.9
Hopkins 65.6 50.0
Maple Grove 75.7 76.3
Mendota Hgu. 60.0 75.5
Minneapolis 86.7 64.5
Minnetonka 79.7 62.5
New Brighton 45.9 59.5
Oakdale 37.5 91.2 �
Plymouth 81.9 65.3
Rochestcr 66.1 80.5
Roseville 82.6 51.1
St. Pdul 54.8 74.0
Shakopee 46.4 80.0
Stillwater 44.4 80.0
St. Cloud 66.1 76.1
St. Louis Park 61.8 58.8
Vadnais Heights 53.3 80.0
Woodbury 50.9 89.7
vVhich of the following development product
markets do you think have the greatest poten-
tial over the nert fiti�e years?
Strip retail
Single-family homes
Unimproved land
Industrial/warehouse
Multi-family
Low-rise office
Regional retail
RBcD oKce
High-rise office
Other
Hotels
as.o
44.1
35.6
32.7
29.2
21.8
14.6
14.6
8.9
5.4
S.0
Which rypes of firms do you consider to be
+�� �.�marv cnmpetition tor Minncsota
. _ • . . ` .,� . . .
sgn- ,III : :�
�:■ioi�:iii ���Qv
��.��1���LS
�er�ence an e icient �nse�t�np
your view, what are the two most frustra-
�g aspect� of real estate de�elopment in
Ta�s (0.3
Gavernment regulations 45.3
Overbuilt market 9.1
Conscn�ative lenders 4.0
Other 62.0
In your view, what are the two greatest
challenges facing real estate developers
nrrrently�
Overbuilt market 34.5
Taxes 20.5
Government regulations 14.5
Finding opportunity 12.8
�Other 95.4
Which of the following cities do you consider
to have regulawry environmenu which are
hostile to or supportive of development?
Bloomington
Brooklyn Center
Brooklyn Park
Burnsville
Duluth
Eagan
Eden Prairie
�IJ13
M�le Grwe
Mendota Hgts.
Minneapolis
Minnetonka
New Brighton
Oakdale
Plymouth
Rochester
Roseville
St. Pdul
Shakopet
Stillwater
St. Clond
St. Louis Park
Vadnais Heights
�
Supportive
72.6
85.8
88.7
75.0
80.7
55.0
57.5
5�.4
83.1
77.7
76.0
73.4
65.8
46.2
82.4
79.5
55.4
R4.4
79.2
76.9
71.8
70.9
•88.5
56.7
80.2
gs.�
Hostile
27.4
14.2
11.3
25.0
19.3
45.0
42.5
48.6
22.3
24.0
26.6
34.2
53.8
17.6
Z0.5
44.6
15.6
20.8
23.1
28.2
29. I
11.5
43.3
19.8
14.9
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January 4�.B'�8
SURVEY�a,Kr ��
officc buildings and strip retail.
The oudook for s��ndication seems to be
optimistic to only 27 percent of aur
mspondents. The fi��e he,t c�ppc,rtunitie� ti�r
��ndicaton, according tu uur respundcnts,
are multi-family (most fa��ored), mtail, in-
dustrial/ware�use, and offi�e buildings.
Grn���
A���t n�ajurit� of rr����nJ�nt. - 2;? �xrr_',
rrnt - prrdirt thc �nnual crunumi� �;ru���th
uuU�x�1, fi�r Minnesota fur the ncxt fi�•c ��c;�rs
to bc I rcent to 5 rccnt.
Ana yzing t eir cnvn campany's gr�vvth
ratcs during thc samc fi�•r-�•car Pcricxi, 77
percent predirteci thrir annual grcntith rates
w�oul�i be greater than S�,rrent. Thi, is
anothcr strong indication of U�a optimi�m of
the respondents in the Minnesota real est�tc
industr}� as most pm�iict an rn�rall J�linncsot;�
eccmomic grcx�nh rate ��f,S perrent or less.
A surprising numbcr of retipondcnt� in thc
various industry scgmrnts tx:licvc their an-
nual grcnvth w•ill excccJ 10 percent. Thiry-
lhr�e percent of the syndicators, 30 per,aent of
the lenders. 35 percent of the developers and
37 percent of the broker� helie��e their annual
growth rate will be 10 perccnt or bener dur-
mg the next five years.
Overall, the survey mveals a real estate
communiry relatively upheat in its outlook.
The continued globaliTation of real estate is
fomcast with more for�eign im�estment and in-
creasing r�eliance on Wall Street. Finally.
there are markets within 119inncsota which all
segments of the industry, from lenders W
developers to brokers, find extremely attrac-
tive. - Brian Smith is purtnrr-in-char,�e o
real estu�e pmctice in the Minneapalrs/Sairu
Pvu! office ojArthur Mder.sen & Co. Dick
Perrine is un e.rperienced nu�nrr�er in the
sume practice.
vver the next frve years, where do you think
development will be the most attractive?
SubuTban Minnea,�,n��s 67 S
Dawntawn Minneapolis 339
Suburban St. Paul 30.4
Rochester �,p
St. Cloud � 7.3
Downtown St. Paul 9.2
Outctate 7.4
Duluth 3.7
comainea.
For m•er sixteen �ears we've gathered, stored, ��.
A
CITY OF FRILiEy
HQTSIl� & REIEVII,OA�NT p�i7�I�y �. ���� �0, 1987
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��� p�E�'. Larry Co�nmers, Virginia Sc3�nabel, Du�ar�e Prairie, Jahn Meyer
��� �s�.,�': Walter Rasnussen
�T�� �•:�: Jock Robertson, Fxecutive Director o� HI2A
Rick Pribyl, Finanoe Director
Julie Burt, Asst. Finanoe pffiver
D�ave N�wman, HI2A p,ttorney
Lou & Jtme L�mdgren, 343 Rellogg Blvd. , St. Faul
Alan Rouse, 1786 Hennepin Ave. S. , Mpls.
Gerald Pasdike, 7960 Ranchers Rd.
�PPROVAL OF 11DVENA�F.R � 2_ 1987. HOL1R TAT` & g��Tn�Am nrmun�rn+v urr*,rm�e .
- .
M�I4N by Mr. Prairie, seoonded by Mr. Meyer, to ap�rove the Nov. 12, 1987,
Housing & Redevelognent Authority minutes as written.
UPON A VOICE VO'�, ALL VOTIi� A7�, Q3AIl2PERSpN (�MMEgg DEC�,1�D TIiE NDTION
(�RRIED UNANIl�DUSLY.
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Mr. Lundgren stated the follawing day he would be meeting with the
C�rregie Et�ans group in Greenwidz, Corutiecticut, on this proj ect. 7hey
wi11 be voting on the amo�t c� the wAmnitment that the Carnegie Evans
cgoup is going to take.
Mr. L�mdgren stated he hac7 a tentative arrangement with the contractor,
J• L. �anpson, whose net worth was S60 million and whose largest job
has been about the same amotmt. Mr. 7hampson has been in busir�ess for 30
years. He is going to put up letters of credit for the difference
between what the a�mnitment is and the amount of money needed, so they
will have 100� financing. Zhe arrangements are being made for i�iase I
and Phase II. He stated he expected to hear late Friday afternoon on the
exact amotait o� t3�e c�arenibnent. 7he actual appl icati� aon¢nitment woul d
prob�ab7.y r�t }.�e avai.l aW, e until th e f oll aw ing Weche sday or �ti ur sday.
Mr. Limc3gren stated he was sti11 working, hopefully ana optimistically,
on closing yet this year. � realized that was s1 ightly more than two
weelcs a�vay. Whe�er they would be able to cb that or r�t r�nained to be
�een. Zhe people they are dealing with are used to making decisions
quickly.
Mr. Limdgren stated he believed the construction loan would also come
f ram ti�e same group back,ed by the ao�nitment and th e 1 etter s of cr edi t
for the differenoe.
Mr. L�dgren stated he had given this irYEormation to Mr. Robertson that
morning, and he would keep 1►ir. Robertson informed of any further
develo�mer►ts.
Mr. C�oa�uners asked Staff what tlie expiration date was on Mr. Lundgren's
letter o� c�ec3i�
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Mr. Newnan stated Mr. Lundgren's letter of credit expired on Feb. 1,
1988.
Mr. Lundgren stated there was another alternate commitment he was
supposed to hear from next week, but it was not a conunitment with a
o�ntract and with �e equity; it was a ooe�anitment only for the"mo�tgage.
: Hearing no mations, Qzairperson Conmers declared the it�a remair�ed on �e
tahle fa� furt3�er a�nsiderati�.
2� ap���DATTON OF A RFSOLt�'i'TON At�'80RiZ7NC �A�F OF HRA PBOpFR'I'Y FOR A
e nm�r,T.TTE F?� STATTON:
Mr. Cocmiers stated this project was tentatively app�oved in the past. He
stated it was his �nalerstar:ding it was still contingent upon the City
Manager making the determination of the pcoper location for �3ie satellite
f ire statiaci.
Mr. Prairie asked if this would affect any ather property avr�ed bY the
HRA in this area, because a wuple a� times in the past, t3�ey had people
interested in developnent fn that area. Would this make future
developnent rnt feasib�le?
Mr. Rot�ertson stated the City does own Froperty south of ti�is goperty on
Rioe Creek Road. 4he property in question was a pieoe the HRA a�nsiclered
a year ago as part of the towri�ouse prop�sal bY Mr• I"iochinski. At that
time, ti�e rezoning was turned da�m tr� the City Cou'icil for a residential
groj ect in �at area.
Mr. Newman stated the nei�borhood has been totally opp�sed to a rezoning
for arry resideritial in this area. '�he neic,�borhood would prefer to keep
it aomanerci.al zoning.
Ms. Sdznabel ask+ed if ti�ere �ould be a public hearing for ths type of
ti� ing.
Mr. Newman stated it was not a legal requirenent. As long as the
construction of the satellite fire station was consistent with the
zoning, a put�lic hearing was not required.
Ms. Sci�nabel stated that, as she reme�►bered, there were a lot of soil
�xo4lens in this area.
Mr. Rok�ertson stat�ed ti�at, tndoubtedly. 1i�ere would have to be some soil
aorrec�ian. '
Mr. Conaners stated he would presuae ti�at this Froperty would be used for
ti�e satell ite f ire station. If th e pr ope r ty was not going to be use d
that way. then �is action would be null and void.
Mr. Ncwman asked the HRA if ti�ey would warit the deed to restrict the use
crf t3ze property.
Mr. Co�aners statecl he did not think they �ould cb ti�at, but if the City
�ould decic3e �t to use t3ie goperty for a eatellite fire station� t�ien
the HRA should have oontrarl a� the psoperty again. He was ooncerned,
because the HRA does own land theref and if �e City doesn't use the
property for a f ire station� ti�en ttie land should not be uaed f or
anythinq else and the HRA should aet tlie �ro�ertv l�ck.
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Nh' • Newman stated the HRA Qou7, d ap�xwe the resol uti an �t di rect S taf f
not to deliver the deed until t�ie City is actually ready to ixoceed with
the c�onstruction of the fire station.
� tr,� Mr. Meyer, sewnded by Ms. Schnabel, to agprwe Resolution No.
HItA 9-1987, A Resolution (v Authorizing Construction of a Satellite Fire
Station; (2) Requesting Transfer of Property frcan the Fridley HRA; and
(3) Retain Professional Serviaes to Prepare Plans and Specifications for
�e Fire Station.
UL�N A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, C�iAIRPERSON �MN�RS LIECZARED THE
NDT?AN C�ARRIED U1�TIM�t1SLY.
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Mr• N�wman stated it was his tnderstar�ling that Mr. Duane Prairie would
not be partici�sting in this discussion.
Mr. Prairie stated that was c�rrect.
Mr. Robertson c�lled the Crnanission's attention to a lett,er addressed to
Mr. Pasdzke fran Jim Robinson dated Nov. 3,1987, a response fran Mr.
Pasc3�ke to Jim Robinson dated Uec. 8, 1987, along with a s�il report and
two estimates on soil oorrecti�.
Mr. Robertson stated that in his letter, Mr. Pasci�ke was responding to
some of the code questions raised by Staff. 71�is was regarding an
offioe/ward�ouse developnent on the wrner of Main St. and 79t3� Ave. It
was oriqir�a].ly thou�it to be a 40,000 sq. ft. building, but it has now
been downsized to 34,000 sq, ft. with 60 parking stalls. It will
require some parking easements and some easements on the drainage pond
property directly to the nor� as sho�wn on page � of the HRA agenda.
Mr. Rok�ertson stated Mr. Pasdzk�e has agreecl to most o� 1�e aoc7e questons
raised in the letter fram Mr. Robinson. 7here was or�e outstanding issue,
and that was item (e), a�oposed layout for werhead doors facing 79th
Ave. Staff asked Mr. paschke to inwrp�ratie t3�e doors on the northeast
side, and Mr. Pasc3�ke stated he wuld not, but reaoc,�izewd that ti�e doors
have to be thoroucj�ly screened fran the ric�t-of-way on 79th.
Mr. Paschke stated he would listen to any suggestions Staff hac7 on
screening. Ae did not l�aw haw a 12 x 12 door could be screened. He
stated this was P�2 zoning, and it was oo�nmon throuc,jiout this entire area
that every builoling has at least a 12 x 12 door facing 79th Ave. He
failed to understand the problea with a 12 x 12 door aai 13�at side.
N1s. Schnabel asked Staff why the HRA was involved in this kind of
discussion �noerning code. Wasn't ti�is �nething that �iould go to the
APPeals Comnissi� or Planni.ng Ccxnmission?
Mr. Robertson s�tated that in the past the 8RA has oonsidered consistency
of projects where the quality was above the average-type quality. ?1�e
quality question was involved here, both in the landscaping, screening,
and the type of material for the building itself. He stated N1r. pasci�ke
was proposing to aoane to �e 8RA with a request for assistance with the
�soj ect, and in the past the appearanae of the proj ect has been one of
ti�e first criteria a�nsidered by the HRA.
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Mr. Robertson stated he t�ouc�it ti�e issue here was whet�ier this was g�ing
to be an ab�ve average p�oject or just a project that simply meets the
minimun of the o�de. _
Mr. Co�ners asked the oost of the project.
Mr. Pasazk,e stat,ea �e p�oject w�l.a t�e aro�a �1 million: �
Mr. Conaners asked haa mudl assistanoe Mr. Pasd�ke was requesting.
Mr. pasdike stated he di.d not l�ow at ti�is time ana was looking to the
HRA �or t�iat. He stated the land vost was 5165,000. 7hat Frioe was firm
and not r�egotiahle. 4hen he had to acld the oost c�' s�il oorrection.
Mr. Con¢ners asked what t�ie lot size was.
Mr. Pasd�ke stated he believed the lot size was around 2.4-2.5 acres, but
the aarier af i�e p�operty was not basing the price on the usable land.
It was based on other than that; but, again, the price was not
negotiabl.e.
Mr. Meyer stated it boti�ered him that in the arrival at an agreed-upon
priae between a buyer ancl seller, somewhere along the lin�e, the oondition
of t3ie land was r�ot taken into acwtmt. In this day and age� it seemed
as thouc�i evexyane lmew that when �ere is land with p�r soil, the �ioe
would have to be dropped in order to mak,e it attractive an the market.
Mr. Pasdzke stated he had no objection to what the awner of the property
t3iouc�t the land was worth. Rhe owr�er was not actively trying to sell
the p�operty, but he was actively trying to buy it.
Mr. Co�ners stated what he heard Mr. Pasdzke saying was that it mic�it not
be feasible to wnstruct a�1 million building on that �operty with the
soil correction that was necessary unless the HRA gives him some
assi stanae.
Mr. pasdzke stated that was absolutely o�rrect. Zhe land oost under the
building was excessive without HRA assistanoe. It was his imderstanding
that the reason the tax increnerit district was created in this area at
the time was because so�ne o� the land was going to need correction and
some o�f it was going to be overly expensive to deal with. So, on an
werall basis, tiiey were �t going to look at one particular piece of
�xoperty and say it was too expensive to aorrec� and should be left with
nothing built on it. If they saicl that, then it oompletely def eated the
purpose of the tax incrc�nerit, and it was not fair for the incranent to be
there. F�e stated he has created a tax base in this area mw a� mill ions
of dollars.
Mr. Ca�ners statec7 all the HRA was saying was that the vwr�er of the
�soperty probahly si�ould carry a little bit of the burden also.
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Mr. Pasci�ke stated the a„mer o� the �operty was not willing to do that.
�he awrier of 13�e p�operty has other uses for the cgound, s� the property
was wor�i $165,000 to him. Mr. paschke stated that he was a willing
buyer if he oould feasi4ly work out a p�oject. He stated he -has picked
over all the c�round in that area now that he could build on with very
little assistanae from the HRA, oompared to the taxes that have been
brou�t in. �
N'►s• Schnabel asked if the �rotmd t�der the ather existing buildings that
are out there now had th e sa�ne poor soil condi ti ons as th i s pa r ti cul ar
Pi� � P�oPerty. � did this Iaoperty have different soil oonditions?
Mr. Paschke stated three of the buildings had the same poor soil
oonditi�s. Iie asked for assistance on those three buildings. He
reaeived 510,000 for eadi o� two buildings and was supposed to receive
$q0,000 for ti�e thircl building— �30,000 was fu�ded to him but there are
still some arc,�nnents wer t3�e other $10,000 whidz he has r�ever received.
So, for millions of cbllars in tax base, he has reoeived only $50,000 in
assistanae.
Ms. Schnabel asked how mudi the s�il oorrecti� o�sts were for one site
or all ti� ree si, tes.
Mr• Paschlce stated he wuld not give Ms. Sdinabel t3�ose figures. Zhe HRA
had the bids at iiie time for the �operties the HRA assisted with. Zhere
are some pieces of ground that are uncorrectable, �a th� aia not
attempt to aorrect those areas. On one pieae, they created a pond.
Mr. Commers stated that in the past, the City has tried to set a
peraentac�e for t3�e �notuit of assistanoe in relation to the aierall value
of a�o� ect. Did Staff rec�ll what that peraentage was?
Mr. Robertson stated he believeol that seoond mortgages were 10-15$.808]
N1s. Schnabel asked what Staff's reoommendation was regarding this
�oj ect.
Mr. Robertson stated that with all due respect to Mr. paschke, he felt
they do have a wnsistency problen between the qual ity of construction
the HRA has assisted with in the past and the quality of construction
being prop�sed by Mr. Fasdike.
Mr. Pasd�ke asked if staff was saying i-hat in order to get assistance, a
developer has to build superior star�arcls over the building coc�s? If
that was the situation, then there was something wrong with the building
codes. Ae did not think that was a fair statemerit. 7his was A�2 zoning,
r'ridley's heaviest zoning. Ae has put up 70 buildings in Fridley in 20
years, and he has been successful with his projects. What he was
proposing for his building was very nice looking. Ae showed the
Canunissioners some pictures of the type of facade he was proposing for
the building. Ard�itectura],ly, it meets or exceeds any of the standards
set b� t3ie City of Fric�.c-y, eii�er nvw or in the past. He did not think
brick construction was a qualifying factor in the City af Fric�.ey, rnr he
did not think it ever had been.
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Mr. pasd�ke shawed the HRA the kuilding plans.
Mr. Commers stated there were some things here that were real
prenature--in terms of the HRA detern►ining what to d°.
Mr. Pasdlke statec7 that before he goes ahead ancl sPends a.lot more mor�ey.
he r�eeded to have some indication fran t3�e HRA that they would'be willing
to give him sane assistanoe. If it was not feasible, he wanted to know
t3iat.
Mr. Coa�¢ners stated it was hard for the HRA to make that determination at
t�iis time. It was something Mr. Paschke would have to work out with
Staff and then Staff �ould aome back with some kind of recormnendation
anc7 the basis for that rea��anenc7ation•
Mr. Meyer stated that if t�e HRA's guidelir�e is to oontribute 10� to the
a�st af the s�il wrrection, would that be enouc� assistanoe?
Mr. Pasc3zke stated that was what he needed to Ivlow. If everything is
acgeeahle to both the City and him9elf� he would 1 ike to know what the
maximun was that the ARA woulci aontribute.
Ms. Schna.bel stated she
settlecl ahead of time
they have had with th
p�widing sanie type of
see the f inal ized pl
felt they should get a cbllar figure and get that
so they cb nat run into so�ne of the same problens
e Lake Pointe Proj ect. She was not opposed to
assistanoe to Mr. Pasdik�e, but she would 1 ike to
ans ancl have soane f ic,�res gerierated.
Mr. Pasciiloe stated he would get _together with Staff and come up with
some�ing reasonable.
Mr. C�eners stat,ed the HRA was willing to try to participate in some
meaninc�ul maruyer, but sinoe this was the first time they had heard about
this project� it was difficvlt to put a dollar amoimt on the assistance
at this time. He would reoonenend Mr. Pasdlke work with Staff between naw
and the January meeting, and then Staff can give ti�e HRA an upc]ate at ti�e
r�ext meeting.
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Mr. Robertson stated that at tlie October meeting, tiie ERA had asked Staff
to give �e HRA some background in£ormation on this. No action was
required at this meeting. '7he HRA o�uld aonsider staYing with the HRA's
p�licy as indicatred in N1r. Newman's letter dated May 6, 1986, or they
a�uld cizange the policy.
I�Ir. CoAaners stated that Mr. Robertson had indicated
HRA dated Dec. 4, 1987, that there were still
outstanding mortgages. He felt there were more tha
He thought they had had between 10-15 hadnes at o
progran. What has happened to the o�3ier ha�nes he di
1�eW �ie�, have n�ot macie ar�y other aonaessions.
in his me�no to the
seven homes with
n seven ha�nes left.
ne point �der this
d not know, but he
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Ms- Schnabel stated that of the hames that mic�t have been sold, could
they have been sold before the ten year period was up?
r'I�'. Ne�an �ated the only way t3�e�, cAU1d find out would be by checking
the Cotmty reo�rds. He supposed a home aould have been rold without the
City lazawing it.
Ms• Sciinabel stated that wer the 10 year period of t,ime, what happens if
a house was "trashed" so the value goes way cbwn? Does the HRA have any
wntrol over ii�at kir�d of thing?
1�9r• Ne�nnan stated, m, t3�e ERA would have r�o a�ntrol wer that.
�N bY Mr. Meyer, aeoonded by Mr. prairie, to reaff irm the p�l icy made
by the HRA wit3� respect to the Large Family Hc�ne p,ssistanoe Program.
Il1�N A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTII� AYE, (�IAIRPERSON �MMERS DECLARED Tf3E
NDTION (�RRIED UNANIM)USLY.
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Mr. Commers stated that in the HIZA agenda was a letter to the HRA fram
Jock Robertson regarding this itten.
Mr. C�►ers stated the issue was whet�er a claim �ould be made against
Subterrarnan at this time for what mi�t be oonsidered negligence on
their Fsrt in their initial rep�rts and the initial way t3�ey did the job.
A'tr• Meyer stated he was satisfied wi� the explanations on the part of
13ie variouss people from Sunde Engineering on whether they have kept
thinc�s se�xirate, and even Subterranean's, except for this last point.
�ere aeemec7 to be a lot of other i3�inc�s invAlveci besides Sub�terranean's
testi.mony.
Mr. Prairie stated Subterranean might have done an unsatisfactory job,
but he would hesitate iiieir pursuing this with a lawsuit. He did not
think that was a meaningful way to solve a lot of things. '7�e best
solution mi�t he just r�ot to use �ie serviaes of Subterran�ean anymore.
r'1�'• Meyer stated he would agree witi� tha�
Ms. Schnabel stated the fact �at there already has been an arbitration
board involved has a tremendous impact on what t3�e ggp,'s dlanoes would be
in a lavsuit.
Mr. Commers asked if Staff had ap�aroadzeci Subterranean regarding these
mistakes and ask+ed whet�er Subterrar�ean o�uld aco�nunodate the gRA in so�ae
manrier.
Mr. Robertson stated they had not.
Mr. Prairie stated that mic�t be a c�ood thing to do.
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Mr. Meyer stated that as he had stated at the last meeting, he was
wnaerned that botii S�de Engir�eering and Subterranean Engineering are
suk�nitting a lot of invoices, and to what extent are these irrvoives
reflecting the fact t3zat they had to backtrack and spend time re�xiring
damage of their erroneous reports? Are they billing the HRA just
"willy-nilly" for everything? He hoped they were not. Maybe this
questions �ould be asked of Subterrar�ean.
Mr. C�onm'►ers statQd Staff should discuss everything with Subterranean
openly and direc�ly, tell then what inforn►ation the HRA has reoeived, the
questions that have been raised by the HRA about the bills, and re+qu+est
that these questions be answered-
7.he HRA menbers were in agreement.
6. T�� �,�,r�nmTnl� �� DF'TATA;Ti� A NLARR�TT� A�'ENCY FOR SOL1'�'HWEST CO��R OF
rn.rn�xTmv n�n+*n� A1y� I�SSSSTPPT_ STR.:_F'F'�'
Mr. Robertson stated this was an informational item. Just that
afterr�on, he had reoeived a grop�sal fran Business Developnent Servioes,
Inc. Ae stated he had riot yet had time to analyze the prposal nor had
Mr. Newman. Depending in what happens with the Lundgren proj ect, t3iey
mic�t decide to Iaoveed wit3� this.
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� by Mr. Prairie, sewnded by Ms. Schnabel, to approve the check
register as sutraitted by Staff.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, (giArRPERSON �ML�+�RS DE(3,ARED THE
NDTIC3N CARR]ED UNANII�Y?USLY.
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�Q�j by Mr. Prairie, seoonded b� Ms. Sdznabel, adjourn the meeting. tJpon a
voic�e vote, all voting aye, Qiairperson Commers c7eclared the December 10,
1987, Sousing & Redevelognent Authority meeting adjourned at 9:15 p.m
Respectfully st�mitted,
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, CITY OF FRIIILEY
_ ENVIRONMENTA�. QUALITY COMMISSION
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� AECEMBER 15, 19$7
CALL TO ORDER: � ;
Chairperson Svanda called the December 15, 1987, Environmental Quality
Commiss'ion meeting to order at 7:31 p.m..
RQLL CAI,L:
Members Present: Richard :Svanda, Faul Dahlberg,.Maynard Nielson,
Wayne Wellan _
Members Absent: Hone
Others Present: Myra Wicklacz, �lanning Assistant
APPROVAL OF NOVEMBER 17, I9$7, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. We11an,,seconded by Mr. Dahlberg, to approve'the:November 17.,
i987, Environmental Quality_Commission.minutes as written.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL;VOTING RYE, CHAIRFERSON SVANDA DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANiMOUSLY,
1. NEW BUSINESS
A, Anoka County Funding .
1) Workplan
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Ms. Wiakl,a;cz distributed copies of the recycling workplan to be
submitted to the County along with a joint powers'agreement, The
workplan is basical3y the same as.the plan sent to the County
earli,er but includes office paper recycling and multiple dwelZing
recpc].ing. Ms. Wicklacz.reviewed the workplan. Categori�s
included in the workpla�_are the curbside recycling pragram,
the-$.4.R.T. site-MSp; pard waste and compost, waste oil, office
paper`recycling, and`multi-tena�nt building recycling.
The,types�of abatement activities lists the current programs and
provides a brief descript3:on of each.
Under the numbezs and types csf waste generators, Ms. Wicklaez
noted that the curbside recpclir�g program actually picks up from
7,l�33 households. Fridley has 1A:400.households which includes
multiple familp;dwellings. For office paper rec�cling, Super G�cle
will be prov�iding bins far thirteen.businesses,-each of which has
their o�n. sqstem of recpcling. Super Cycle will also start picking
up paper at the M3dd1e School. Recycling at multiple tenant
buildings is €or newspaper at this time.
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, DECEMBER 15, 1987 PAGE 2
The estimated tons �of solid waste to be abated for the curbside
program are 390 tons per year at this time and an est imated 480 t�ns
per year in the future. MSD-S.O.R.T. currently collects 185 tons
per year and hope to increase to 200 tons. The yard waste/compost
drop off site has about 90 cubic yards now with a capacity of 8,000
cubic yards. ci��,_thrPP tnnG nf waste oil were collected. The tank has
1,500 gallon capacity. The future estimate of high quality office
- paper collected is 22.5 tons. Recycling services to multiple tenant
buildings is planned to be expanded.
Types of agreements, approval and permits needed are a contract
with Super Cycle approved by the Environmental Quality Commission.
. Planning Commission, and City Council; MSD-S.O.R.T. has a lease
agreement which is formally approved; the oil tank is registered
with the State because it is an underground tank; and the office
paper collection is part of the agreement with Super Cycle.
The budget attached to the handout was last year's budget which
Ms. Wicklacz stated would be updated to reflect current expenditures.
This will include money expended from July 1, 1987, through funds
to be expended until June 30, 1988.
Mr. Svanda asked if the programs are sustaining.
Ms. Wicklacz stated the programs are sustaining except for
administrative time. The budget will show how much is City
funding and how much is Anoka County funding. One thousand dollars
will rema.in to represent the Phase 2 funding.
Mr. Svanda asked how much was being provided by the City.
Ms. Wicklacz stated this was in-kind and difficult to track.
This includes time spent by staff, photocopies, postage, etc.
She estimated this to be $3,000. She will work with staff to try
to calculate more closely what is spent.
Ms. Wicklacz stated the workplan is for the period of July 1,
1987, through June 30, 1988.
Mr. Svanda asked if the County had requested more detail on how
the City planned to reach expected tonnages.
Ms. Wicklacz stated that the County had not requested that
information, but Ms. Wicklacz added a section which outlines
activities for the future.
Mr. Wellan asked how this fit into the City's fiscal year. It
may be necessary to start now to receive funds for the next
fiscal year.
Ms. Wicklacz stated the City's fiscal year is the same as the
workplan's year. She has started discussing funding with Mr.
Robertson. Grants have funded the programs thus far. If the City
does not fund, it may be necessary to charge residents or work
with the haulers. . .
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, DECEMBER 15, 1987 PAGE 3
Ms. Wicklacz indicated that Woodbury has recently passed mandatory
recycling and haulers must have a composting and recycling plan.
Some cities also have organized garbage hauling. Ms. Wicklacz
indicated she would like to present the concept to the City
Council.
Ms. Wicklacz asked members if they had any further comments on
- the workplan.
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Mr. Dahlberg asked if a notation had been made about obtaining
containers.
Ms. Wicklacz stated this was mentioned under future activities.
MOTION by Mr. Wellan, seconded by Mr. Dahlberg, to recommend the
Planning Commission and the City Council approve the proposed
workplan with amendments to the budget for the next six months.
Mr. Dahlberg recommended that the section regarding the
estimated tons of solid waste to be abated may be more
descriptive by adding a total amount of 660 tons currently
abated. He also recommended calculating the tonnage of
the compost if possible.
Ms. Wicklacz stated she would add a current total and an
estimated future total.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SVANDA DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Wicklacz stated that the City Council would be considering
the Joint Powers Agreement along with the workplan.
MOTION by Mr. Wellan, seconded by,Mr. Dahlberg, to amend the
motion to recommend the Planning Commission and City Council
approve the Joint Powers Agreement and the proposed workplan
as amended. , �
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SVANDA DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2) Examination of Waste Recycling
Mr. Svanda indicated, under the section Concerns of Municipalities
in the second paragraph, that the statement implies the Resource
Conservation and Recovery Act is the Super Fund which it is not.
The statement is not accurate and the authors may want to contact
the MPCA to get clarification.
Ms. Wicklacz stated she would check further to find the author
to get the statement clarified.
3) Champlin's Ordinance on Organized Collection ,
Ms. Wicklacz stated that Champlin has proposed an ordinance for
organized garbage hauling. They are taking steps to get organized
collection. Ms. Wicklacz thinks the City of Fridley will have to
do the same. Most cities are planning organized collections.
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' Invoicing could go through the City. Those who recycle would
pay less.
Mr. Nielson indicated that Columbia �eights has one hauler and
residents are charged for collection on their water bill. The
system works well. It is less expensive to have one hauler. The
charges for garbage hauling in Columbia Heights is less than in
' other communities.
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B. Anoka County Task Force Meeting
1) Waste Management Recycling
Mr. Svanda had attended the last monthly meeting of the Task Force
and indicated that a number of recyclers were there. BFI and Waste
Management were also there. Each party gave a short presentation
about their services. It was mentioned that certain plastics are
also being collected. The best results for recycling are when the
_- curbside pick up is the same day as the garbage pick up.
Mr. Svanda felt the meetings may be of interest to members. The
meetings are held the first Wednesday of each month at the Bunker
Hills Activity Center starting at 7:00 p.m.
Mr. Wellan asked if the RDF plant had been discussed.
Mr. Svanda stated that it had not been discussed at this time.
He did not know where the County is on a solid waste plan. The
meetings are basically for gathering information. Each city is
to meet a goal of 16% reduction in the waste stream.
Ms. Wicklacz stated Fridley's figures now represent 7-8%. The
goal is to divert 16% by the deadline which is assumed to be 1990.
C. Super Cycle's Contract
Ms. Wicklacz talked with Mr. John Luoma who is now reviewing their
costs and hopes to get back to the City tomorrow. Ms. Wicklacz is
proposing a six-month contract. Super G�cle cannot request more than
a 5% increase, otherwise the City will have to get bids. Mr. Luoma
does not want to go through the bid process so it is likely his
request will be within the S% limit.
Mr. Svanda asked if it would be better for the City to have a long
term contract.
Ms. Wicklacz felt Super Cycle was doing okay. They want to keep their
contract with the City. They have been collecting about 30 tons per
month.
Mr. Dahlberg felt they were receiving a good rate for the half day
they spent in the City each week.
Ms. Wicklacz felt the rate was fair. This.is the lowest rate per ton
of the cities in the area.
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, DECEMBER 15, 1987 PAGE 5
MOTION by Mr. Wellan, seconded by Mr. Dahlberg, to authorize staff
to negotiate the terms of the contract with Super Cycle for the period
of January 1, 1988, through June 30, 1988, with not more than a 5%
increase in rate.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SVANDA DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
D. MSD Recycle's Lease Amendment �
Ms. Wicklacz distributed copies of the Amendment to the Lease Agreement
for MSD-S.O.R.T. In discussions with the City Attorney, it was
recommended to amend the lease with Universal Can in order to keep in
the lease the terms relating to the building. Changes have been made
stating MSD will follow the provision as stated for U-Can, but the
amendment also states that certain provisions have been deleted. The
terms of the lease are one year. The prior lease was a two-year lease.
A lease set up year by year is preferred.
Mr. Wellan asked if this would follow the guidelines for other
agreements.
Ms. Wicklacz stated it would; however, this lease has some major
changes. The dates can be set to any dates chosen. The lease reflects
changes in the hours of operation, changes in items being accepted,
and a request for signage has been added. MSD has requested a sign on
the easement and they are talking with Minnesota Transfer for approval
for the sign.
MOTION by Mr. Wellan, seconded by Mr. Dahlberg, to recommend that the
Planning Commission and City Council approve the Amendment to the
Lease Agreement as presented.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SVANDA DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2. OLD BUSINESS
A. Recycling Bins
Mr. Svanda indicated he had given Ms. Wicklacz the name of a St. Paul
vendor for recycling bins. This vendor has bins that are less
expensive and will sell future bins near the price of the original
order. The colors are not as bright, but he felt it should be
followed up.
Ms. Wicklacz indicated the Rarig Pacific bins seem to be more heavily
constructed and have labels. This company will also put logos on the
bins.
Mr. Nielson stated the Lions are interested in this project. One
question raised is whether they would be buying the bins for individuals
rather than for the City. The Lions would also want their logo on
the bins. He would like to have a decision on the style and price
before presenting to the Club.
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COA4IISSI�N rfEETING, DECEMBER 15, 1987 PAGE 6
Ms. Wicklacz indicated the Rarig Pacific bins would cost over $100,000
, if supplied to 7,500 households. She indicated that the Waste Management
Board has created two levels of grants, one of which has recycling bins
mentioned in it. The grant appears to have no maximum amount that can
' be requested and no given deadline. This will be investigated further.
Ms. Wicklacz stated she would be attending a meeting at Waste
_ Management on Friday and would report on that meeting in January.
Mr. Nielson stated the Lions Club was talking about providing about
$4,000-$5,000 for bins.
Ms. Wicklacz stated that other groups may also be interested if they
know the Lions are providing funding.
Mr. Svanda noted that if the City provides bins for those who are
recycling others who start will also want bins.
Mr. Dahlberg asked who would manage the buying of the bins.
Ms. Wicklacz was hoping to work with the haulers to have them assess
residents for the bins on their garbage hauling bills.
Mr. Svanda did not think the haulers would be receptive to that idea.
He felt the commission needed to do additional planning.
Ms. Wicklacz felt it important to secure some type of funding. She
recommended the commission work to identify funding sources and
discuss the matter further.
B. Curbside Recycling Publicity and Promotion
Ms. Wicklacz stated that the grants are coming to an end. She is
working on getting a program into the schools. The task now is to
assess the amount of funds remaining and how much will be needed to
do some of the programs.
3. OTHER BUSINESS
A. Commissioner Recognition Dinner
Ms. Wicklacz stated the Commissioner Recognition Dinner will be held
January 10, 1988, at the Shorewood Inn. Everyone on the commissions
and their spouse or guest is invited to attend. Please RSVP by
January 4. °
B. Attachments
1) Curbside Tonnages
Ms. Wicklacz indicated the graph was an information item. The
bar graph indicates the tons collected and the numbers show the
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
APPEALS CQDM'lISSION N�TING, JANUARY 12, 1988
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Vioe-Chairperson Barna called the January 12, 1988, Appeals Cc�mission
meeting to order at 7:32 p.m. �
�LL CAL,L:
Mei�rs Present: Alex Barna, Jeny Sherek, Diane Savage, Kenneth Vos,
Larry Kuechle
Members Absent: None
Others Present: Darrel Clark, City of Fridley
Bill Brezinski, Suburban F�gineering
George Applebaiun, 2233 N. Hamline, Suite 220
Norm Brody, 2233 N. Hamline, Suite 220
Dave Yamagudi, Super Ar.�erica
Kathlyn Castle, City of Fridley
APPROVAL OI' DDCII�ZBF�2 1, 1987, APPEALS CCY�YIISSION riINUrES:
P��O►I'ION by Dr. Vos, seconded by Mr. Sherek, to apprave the December l, 1987,
Appeals Comnission minutes as written.
Upon a voice vote, all wting aye, Vice-Chairpersan Barna declared the
motion carried unanimously.
WEL�CCON� NEW CC�'Il�'IISSION MEI��BER, LARFtY HIJF]CHLE:
Vice-Chairperson Barna wel.comed Mr. Kuechle to the Cornti.ssion. He stated
Mr. Kuechle was replacing Don Betzold who had recently been appointed
Chairperson of the Planning C�nissian.
1. CONSIDERATION OF A VARIANCE REQUEST, VAR #87-38, BY SHOREGJOOD PLAZA
PARTNERS:
Pursuant to Chapter 205.15.3.c.1 of the Fridley City Code to reduce
the required front yard setback froiY► 80 feet to 75 feet; and pursuant
to Chapter 214.11.2.B to increase the square footage of a pylon sign
frcen 80 square feet to 224 square feet, on that part of Goverru��ent Lots
1 and 2, being a part of the Southwest Quarter of Section 13, Tawnship
30, Range 24, Anaka County, 2�iinnesota, tl�e same being 6257 N.E.
Highway 65, Fridley, Minnesota 55432.
MOTION by Ms. Savage, seconded by Dr. Vos, tA open the public hearing-
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Vice-Chairperson Ba.rna declared the
public hearing open at 7:34 p.m.
ApPEALS C:�`M9.ISSION MEEI'I1VG, JANIJARY 12, 1988
Vice-Chairperson Barna read the Ac�inistrative Staff Repoz-t:
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REPORT
6257 Highway 65 N.E.
VAR #87-38
J
A. PURLIC PLTRPOSE SEFNID BY R�JIRII�NT:
PAGE 2
Section 205.15.3.c.1 requires a minim�un of 80 feet frcm public
right of-way.
Public puzpose serv�ed by this requirement is to provide for adequate
parking and apen landscaped areas as well as to avoid congestion and
provide adequate site clearances in conmercial areas.
Section 214.11.2.B requires a maxumun sign size of 80 square feet in
area per development.
public puzpose served by this requirement is to contsol visual pollu-
tion and excessive use of signs in cc��ercial areas .
B . SiATED H��iDSHIP :
"The building setback off Rice Creek Road is a mininnun of 75 feet at
one point only. This setback deficiency was created by the City when
the right-of-way was expanded.
"The sign area variance requested is to retain the present pylon area
of 224 square feet. The center is to undergo renr�deling this winter
which will make the existing center canpatible with ti�e proposed center
to be built later this year. The City has requested that all the
signage be ccapatible for both developrients. We are willing to remodel
the sign to c�ly, but do not wish to lose the area which presently
is grandfathered in. This sign, when remodeled, will serve the entire
Nbore Lake Camrons District."
C. ADMINISTRATNE STAF'F' REVIEW:
The existi.ng center was built in 1965 prior to the construction of
Rice Creek Road which was built in 1966. Either the building was
oonstructed to� close to the right-of-way or the City took right-of-
way which created the variance. In either case, approval of the
variance should be granted at this time to rem�ve the non-conforn�ing
status.
The developer and the City have developed a co�rehensive plan which
integrates rem�deling of the existing center with the implementation
of the r�w center and health club. The Moore Lake Comnons area is
intended to be the prototype for the Fridley Urban Design Staridards
which are currently being �npiled. One of our major goals is to
promote uniform signage. The proposed sign will be consistent with
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PAC� 3
design matif for the area. Ttre developer would have the right to
maintain the existing sign as it is grandfathered in. Alonq with
the proposed vacation of the service road, the parking lot is being
remodeled. If the sign were to remain in its existing location, it
would be located in the parking area.
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Staff supports the variar�ces for the relocation and remodeling of
the pylon sign with its current area of 244 square feet provided that:
1) Staff reserves the ric�t to approve the final design of the sign;
2) the new center's pylon sign will have design consistency with the
remodeled sign; and, 3) the new center's sign will not be considered
for variances.
Mr. Clark showed an aerial photo of the property.
Mr. Clark stated that from the southeast corner of the existing shot�nina
oenter building to the public right-of-way was 75 ft. 'Ihis was o�nfirn�d
by a reoent survey, even though the majority of the wall is m�re than
SO ft. fram the right-of-way.
Mr. Clark stated he did not kno�w the exact location of the new sign, but
it had to be at least 10 ft. from the highwa� right-of-way . NP �tatP� thA
area where the si� was naa will be incomorated into parking lot.
Mr. Clark shcHaed a design of the new pylon sign. He stated the new name
of the shopping oenter will be Moore Lake Co�cnns, and then the various
tenants' naires will be listed below the name of the center on the sign.
N's. Clark stated the staff report ta]ked about the re�ndeling of the facade
of the existing shapping center. A permit will be issued later in the
week for a new mansord n�of, and a new area for wall signs (sign plan was going
to City Council on Jan. 25th. � developer plans to start constructing a
smaller shopping center, along with a health and racquet club, to the east
arid across Rice Creek Rr�ad fro� the existing shopping center.
Mr. Barna stated that presently on the west side of the buil'ding, there was
a driveway that connected the service drive from the parking lot. ��at
would happen tA that driveway and the traffic mavement through there?
Mr. George Applebaum showed the Coim�issioners haw the traffic would be
rerouted through the shoppi.ng center if the sezvice drive was vacated.
He stated only that portion of service drive adjacent to the shopping center
was to be vacated, so traffic ooming fram the irnar►icipal liquor store could
still access the parking lot and connect to Rice Creek Road through the
parking lot.
Mr, Norntian Brody, the developer, shvwed and explained to the Comnissioners
the plans for remodeling the exi.sting shopping center.
Mr. Sherek asked what the height was for the existing pylon sign.
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PAGE 4
Mr. Applebaum stated he did not know the overall height of the sign. He
would guess it was about 18 ft. fran the bottan of the sign to the top of
the sign. He stated the sign face itself would be 26 ft. by 8 ft.
Mr. Brody stated the height of the sign was within oode as the City's
maxi.ttnun sign height was 25 ft. �
Ms. Savage stated that it was her impression from the staff report that
staff was recomrending approval of both these variances. i�y was staff
reccamiending approval?
Mr. Clark stated he was not the author of the staff report. He stated the
City has been working with the developer. The developer is upgrading the
existing shopping center and will upgrade the existi.ng sign. The person
who wrote the staff report, along with other planning department staff
members, feel this would be an i�rovement over what is existi.ng; and,
apparently, are willing to reoomY�end to the Appeals CoaYmission that these
variances be approved.
i•10TION by Ms. Savage, seconded by Mr. Kuechle, to close the public hearing.
Upon a voice vote, all wting aye, Vice-Chairperson Barna declared the
public hearing closed at 8:00 p.m.
Dr. Vos stated he has lived in the neighborhood for 14 years, and he would
support anything that would imprave the existing sign and the existing
shopping center. He stated there was a definite need for visibility and
identification for a develognent this big and this deep off Highway 65.
The hardship for the front ya�3 setback from 80 ft..to 75 ft. was essentially
that someone built the building too close to the road, and there was not
much that could be done about that naw. He would support both variance
requests.
Ms. Savage stated she agreed with Dr. Vos. The sign as it was naw was
certainly an eyesore. She st,ated she had a particular interest in signs,
and she thought signs could really be one of the worst visual pollutants
in a comminity. Generally, she was not in fawr of large signs, but in
this case, the e�sting sign was very visually polluting, and something
should clearly be done about it. 5he thouc�t thi.s proposed sign would be
a very, vezy definite i�rovement over the old sign and would be an asset.
She stated she had no prol�lem with reco�mending approval of the sign
variance. She stated she also agreed with Dr. Vos regarding the front yard
setback variance would rec�nend approval of that variance also .
Mr. Sherek stated he was in favor of rec��ending approval of both
varianoes as requested.
Mr. Kuechle stated he was in favor of reco�mending approval of the
variances .
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PAGE 5
Mr. Barna stated he agreed with what had been said by the other comnissioners.
The variance fran 80 ft. to 75 ft. fran the public right-of�aay was not
going to make any difference. It has been that way since 1966 when the
road was put in, and would be that way for a long time in the future. The
sign was part of the whole development plan, so he would be in favor of
reco�rending approval of both variances . �
MOTION by Mr. Kuechle, seconded by Mr. Sherek, to reca�rend to City
Council approval of VAR #87-38 by Shorewood Plaza Partners, pursuant to
Chapter 205.15.3.c.1 of the Fridley City Code to reduce the required front
yard setback fram 80 feet to 75 feet; and pursuant to Chapter 214.11.2.B
of the Fridley City Code to increase the square footage of a pylon sign
from 80 square feet to 224 square feet, on that part of Government Lots
1 and 2, being a part of the Southwest Quarter of Seetion 13, ToHmship 30,
Range 24, Anoka County, Minnesota, the sarie being 6257 N.E. Highway 65,
Fridley, Minnesota, with the follawing stipulations:
l. Staff reserves the right to approve the final design of the plan.
2. The new center's pylon sign will have design oonsistency with
the remodeled sign.
3. The new center's sign will not be considered for variances.
Upon a voioe vote, all voting aye, Vice-Chairperson Barna declared the
mr�tion carried unaniurously.
2. CONSIDERATION OF A VARIANCE REQiJESI', VAR #87-39, BY MIIZER FUNF�tF1L HOI�'!E:
Pursuant to Chapter 205.15.3.C.2.b of the Fridley City Code to reduce
the required side yard setback on a c�orner lot from 80 feet to 35 feet on
part of Lot 4 and all of Lot 3, Block 1, Heraal Second Addition, the same
bei.ng 6210 N.E. Highway 65.
MdI'ION by Dr. Vos, seconded by Mr. Kuechle, to open the public hearing.
Upon a wioe vote, all voting aye, Vice-Chairperson Barna declared the
public hearing open at 8:03 p.m.
Vice-Chaizperson Barna read the Administrative Staff Report:
ADMIlQISTRATIVE STAF'F REPORT
6210 HIGHV+TP,Y 65 N.E.
VAR #87-39
A. PUBLIC PURPOSE SEF�VID BY RDQtJIRFi�,'I�TI':
Section 205.15.3.C.2.b requi.res a minimn,un 35 foot side yard setback
on the street side of a corner lot.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to mai.ntain adequate
side yard setbacks and aesthetic open areas around �rcial structures.
APPEALS CUI�M4ISSION MEE.E'rING, JANUARY 12, 1988
B . STATID HAFiDSHIP :
PAGE 6
"Existing building was constructed with a 35 foot side yard setback.
Addition to building should be consistent with setbacks of existing
structure." �
C. ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW:
The petitioner would like to add.onto the west end of the existing
Miller Ftiuieral Ho�ne at the same setback off West Moore Lake Drive
(35 feet) . Ttie present oode requires an 80 foot setbac3c fran any
street right-of-way.
In 1967 when the building was constructed, the petitioner was granted
a reductian in front yard setback fran 80 feet to 55 feet and, at that
time, the side yard to a side street was interpreted to be 35 feet.
If the Board approves this request, we recam�end that the mQtion
include the existing building and that the petitioner wark with staff
on outward improven�ents to include a new landscape plan with automatic
irrigation and that the addition be a continuation of the existing
exterior finishes of the existing building.
Mr. Clark shawed the Co�ussioners an aeri.al photo of the property. He stated
this property was directly across Highway 65 fran the Shorewood Plaza Shopping
Center. He shvwed the Co�u.ssioners a survey shaaing the existing builk3ing
with the proposed addition.
Mr. Clark stated the e�sting building was sitti.ng in the middle of the lot,
and the petitianer wished to expand to the west with a 35 ft. setback which is
the setback for the existi.ng building. As explained i.n the staff report, when
the building was built, the oode was interpreted to be an 80 ft. setback only
in the front yan�3 and 35 ft. on the side yard. Actually, the builciing wuld
not have been built with two 80 ft. setbacks because there wauld not have been
enough roo�n on the north end of the lot. If the Appeals Co�nission recom�nds
approval of this variance request, Staff was reo�nmending a two-part motion--
one part would address the existing building to approve a side yard variance
fran 80 ft. to 35 ft. in case the Appeals CaYUnission did not want to include
the addition; and if they wish to approve the variance for tl�e addition, then
that should be stated as the second part of the motion.
Mr, Barna stated he was concerned about access to the lot to the northwest of
the Miller F�uieral H��e praperty. Will this addition hav�e any affect on the
accessiblity to that northern lot?
Mr. Bill Brezinski of Suburban Engineering stated he was representing P7iller
Funeral i3ome. H�e stated Mr. Miller o�wn.s that northern lot. At one time in the
past, Mr. rii.11er had considered expanding the parking lot to th�e west with same
kind of driveway easei:�zt to that northern lot. He was not proposi.ng anything
like that at this time. Since Mr. D4iller was the c�mer of that lot, he would
be landloc�cing his c�m lot. V�at Mr. Miller was proposing at this t�me was to
expand the existing funeral home about 30 ft. to the west at the 35 ft. setback
which was the setback for the existing building. Tt�e exterior siding would be
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PAC� 7
would be the same as the existing funeral hane. At the same time, they
plan to do landscaping as worked out with city staff. Also, the existi.ng
parking lot would be expanded bringing the parking lot into oonformity
with the parking requirements for this size building, including the
exparLSion.
Mr. Barna stated that with the expansion of the building, it would leave
no acoess to that northern lot. He would'be conoerned that in the future
Mr. Miller might decide to either sell o� that northern lot or sell his
business, and then that piece of property was already landlocked. It was
the property owner's responsibility to maintain access to that propertyj
or, if in the future the property was sold, he would hav�e to figure out
what to do then as far as access.
Mr. Clark stated that maybe what cauld be done was to have the northern
parcel combined into one tax parcel with the property on which the funeral
hcQne was locat�ed. Then, that nortYiern lot could not be split off until
the petitioner came to the city to split it off. Sinae it was all one
vwnership naw, when the property awner decided to split it off, he wauld
have to shaw the City how he intended to bring access to the northern lot
and the City would have a chance at that time tA approve that access.
MOTION by Mr. Sherek, seconc3ed by Mr. Barna, to close the public hearing.
Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Vice-Chairperson Barna declared the
public hearing closed at 8:20 p.m.
Mr. Kuechle stated he was a little bit wncerned and wondered why this
wasn't put together into a whole gackage and include the landscaping plan
as part of the enticement. If they include in the mr�tion that the land-
scaping plan was a part of the whole package, he would be in favor of
recoimiending approval of the variance.
Mr. Sherek stated he would n�t like to see any strange contortions to
the building to txy to conform to oode without a variance. He would be
in favor of granting the variance for the e�sting building to bring it
into conformity and he would be in favor of granting tY� variance for the
addition.
Ms. Savage stated she agreed. 5he stated the hardship has been established
in the fact that there is apparently a need for the addition, and there i
no other way the building could be expanded without a variarice. She woul�
agree that the l.andscaping plan should be a part of the whole package.
The landscaping will increase the aesthetic aspect, which was one of the
public puzposes served, arx� she would be i.n favor of recomrending approval
of the variance.
Dr. Vos stated he felt the han3ship was pretty clear with the fact that
the addition was needed for the expanding business and because the building
could not be expa�ided without a variance.
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PAGE 8
rir. Barna stated that basically the hardship was clear, yet not clear,
because there was enough property available if tYbe building was replaced .
Hawever, that would put an extrene econoanic hardship on the petitioner.
The additian to the existing building was tl�e mr�st sensible thing to do
at this ti.me. He would like to see a re�iendation to tYie City Council
that the City Council loak at having the two properties oombined into one
tax parcel.
MO►rION by Dr. Vos, seconded by Ms. Savage, to reco��end to City Council
approval of a side yard setback on a oorner lot from 80 ft. to 35 ft. ,
per Section 205.15.3.C.2.b of the Fridley City Code, for the existing
Miller Ftiineral Home building to brinq the building into code compliance,
on part of Lot 4 and all of Lot 3, Block 1, Herwal Second Addition, the
same being 6210 N.E. Highway 65, with the stipulation that a landscape
plan be included with aut.anatic irrigation.
UPON A VOICE VOiI'E, ALL VO'I'ING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPE'R.SON BAFtNA DDCI,�1�2ID TI-iE
MOrTION CARRIID UNANIMOUSLY.
MOTION by Dr. Vos, seconded by Ms. Savage, to re�nd to City Council
approval of VAR #87-39, per Chapter 205.15.3.C.2.b of the Fridley City
Code to reduce the required side ya�l setback on a corner lot fran 80 ft.
to 35 ft. on part of Lot 4 and all of Lot 3, Blocic 1, Herwal Second
Addition, the same being 6210 N.E. Hic�way 65, with the follawing
stipulations:
1. That the petitioner work with staff on outward improvements
to include a new landscape plan with auto�natic irrigation.
2. That the addition be a continuation of the existing exterior
fi.nishes of the existing building.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VO►rING AYE, VICE�HAIRPERSON BARN1� DDCL�IRFD THE
MOTION CARRIID iJI�1NIM0USLY•
NlaI'ION by Dr. Vos, seconded by Mr. Sherek, to recom�nd to City Council
that all the contiguous property in this location that the petitioner
now awns be ca�ined i.nto ane tax parcel.
UPON A VOICE VO►1'E, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPER�90N BARNA DEIC�RID THE
N10TION CAP�tIID UNANIlKOUSLY.
3. CONSIDERATION OF A VART�INCE R�QiJEST, VAR # 87-40 , SY A. B• SYSI'FI`ZS ► INC •:
Pursuant to Chapter 205:17.3.D.2.b of the Fridley City Code to reduce
the required side yard setback fran 35 feet t�o 15 feet on a corner lot
on that part of the North Half of the Northeast Quarter of the Southw�est
Quarter of Section 12, T-30, R-24, Anoka County, riinnesota, lying north
of the South 405.60 feet of said North Half of the Northeast Quarter of
the Southwest Quarter, the same being 1130 - 73rd Avenue N.E.
MC7I'ION by Mr. 5herek, seoonded by Dr. Vos, to table VAR #87-40 until
the Februazy 2, 1988, Appeals Conmission meeting.
UPON A VOICE VO►I'E, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHP.IRPER.SOt� BARNA DDCL�RF� �
NYJTION CARRIID UNANIl�lOUSLY.
APPEALS COI�'�iISSION N�I'ING, JANUARY 12, 1988 PAGE 9
4, DISCCTSSION OF II�CTION OF NEW CHAIRPER.SON AND VICE-CHAIRPER.SON;
Mr. Barna stated he would be willing to serve as chairperson of the
Appeals Ccxrmissiari if rio one else desired the position.
MOTION by Dr. Vos, sec:onded by Psr. Sherek, to r�omi.nate and cast a
unaniirous ballot for Alex Barna as ctiairperson of the Appeals Coarmission
for 1988-89.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ws, s�x�x, s�vacE, � x�c� varnac �, �xr�,
ABS'I'AIhIIVG, CHAIRPER.SON BAi2NA DDCI�RID Tf� MOTION CARRIID.
Ms. Savage stated she would be willing to serve as vice-chairperson of
the Appeals Comnission.
MOrI'ION by Mr. Sherek, seoonded by Dr. Vos, to nominate and cast a unanimous
ballot for Diane Savage as vice-chairperson of the Appeals Co�nission for
1988-89.
UPON A VOICE VOrI'E, VOS, B�F2NA, SHEREK, A1�ID KUECHLE VOTING AYE, SAVAGE
ABSI'AINING, CHAIRPER.SON BARNA DDCI,ARID THE MOTION CARRIED .
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MOTION by Mr. Sherek, seconded by Dr. Vos, to adjourn the meeting. Upon a
voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Barna declared the motion carried
unani.irously and the Januazy 12, 1988, Appeals Commission meeting adjourned
at 8:35 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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L Saba
Recording Secretary