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PL 03/09/1988 - 7113PLANNING COMFiISSION MEETING WBDAESDAY, MAHCH 9, 1988 7:30 P.�. Jock Robertson Commtmity Develog�aent Director City of Fridley AG ENDA PLAI�TING CCXkR`�SSI�N r'EETING WEDriESII�Y, AR�RQ3 9, 1988 7: 30 P. M. ... . . � .- ..- - - �� ;, � �; ;,r v� • ;�� I ; �i�� : !� �iu • � v� �; I4 � - .. � PAGES PiiRT.TC �ART�: OQNSiDERATTnN OF A SPF�TAr. ii�F. pERMIT, Sp $88-03. BY FRAI�t I�ERMAN :. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 - lI Per Section 205.17.O1.C.2 o�f the Fridley City Code, to allow retail sales of mobile home and R.V. parts and accessories; per Section 205.17.O1.G 11 of the Fridley City Code, to allow exterior storage of materials and equigaent � Lot 1, R1ock 1, Herwal Rioe Creek Terrace, the same being 6400 Central Avenue N. E. OONSIDERATION OF A L[71' SPLIT, L. S. #88-01. BY (�RAI� JOFiNSON: .. 2- 2E To split Lats 5 and 6, Lucia Lane Addition, in order to create three buildable lots, generally located at 1133 - 1145 Mississippi Street N. E. : �;« �/ 4.z _ v �. � _:. • y,l ..�. _ �,. . � �� / _ _.� ' v. �� s � � M v_� �. � l:�lJ�i ; �:«.�� _ z v �11 • • :_�_; ; �i� �_ . �. , • � • w +� � � � �+�# �, • �+ - ' �- - -i� � C �M_ �_ ��! _ v� �: Z4�_ � 4•� �l:u�� `_�. a�t�!_ !� u�u • � y. � ,� � yl yl: ; /; �� ' ' ,. 1 ; ?.M �. t►_ v ,1 !4__ • �z _ �1� � � ��v � _- � _ - � 4 v • � V _�_ ,. � i-' �:-�� • � �1 rI�C �I_, . ADJOURIINENI' �:5 � . �. 1� l. 4M • �+� �� a1� ; �� . !�V�v _ •, v�� l. ��!=;.!: �+ 1 k� � ;1 � �i;, Chairperson Betzold called the February 10, 1988, Planning Commission meeting to order at 7: 32 p. m -� L• Members Present: Donald Betzold, David Rondrick, Dean Saba, Alex Barna, Maynard Nielsen (for Mr. 9vanda). S�ie Sherek (arr. 8: 00 p. m) Members Abser�t: No� Others Present: Jim Robinson, Planning Coordinator Jock Robertson, Co�nlmity Develognent Director Steve Billings, City Coimcil Greg & Nancy Asproth, 12748 Monroe S� N.E. Sarah Harder, 2822 Leyland Trail, Wooc3bury Tan & Marqe Briclazer 6230 Highway 65 Rick Briclmer, 1233 - 12th Ave. ls i� , New Brighton Wil.liaQU & Arui Costello, 1623 Gardena Ave. 1�L E. J�nes Ti11er, representing Mr. & Mrs. Qostello Roger Ettel, 1641 Garc7ena Ave. N. E. Q�arles CaQnpbell, representing Mr. Ettel (See attachecl 1 ist ) ; ' ' C• /� • 1; �: l. �. : �� !�v�v � � v� �l � M�IQ1Y by Mr. IGondrick, sewndea by Mr. Barna, to approve the January 27, 1988, Pla��ning Comnission minutes as written. UPON A VOICE VOI'E, ALI, VQPING AYE, CBAIIZPERSC�I BETZCGD DEQ,ARID THE Ni0TI0N CT,RRIED UNANII�USLY. Per Section 205.17.01. G 4 of the Friclley City CAde to allow a bill iard and an arcade; per Section 205.17.O1.C.3 of the Fridley City Code to allow a snack bar, all � Lvt 4, 5, and 6, B].ock 1, Paoo Industrial Park, the same being 7178 University Avenue N. E. �Q,�I by Mr. Kondrick, seoonded by Mr. Nielsen, to waive the reading of the public hearing notice and to open the public hearing. UP'ON A VOICE VOl'E, ALL VCIPING AYE� CEt�.TRP�RSCN B�ZCL�D DEQ,ARID THE MOTION (g�RR?ED U1��NIlviJUS'LY, AI�ID THE HTBLIC HEARING O�1ID AT 7: 35 P. M. Mr. Fobinson stated this special use permit was to allaw a billiard hall and arcade with a snack bar in the Rice Creek Business Center. This proposal was made possihle by a reoemt ordinance ahange aplaravec] by the City Council -1- a : �i�� . �� „i„r � + �i�a�M �. :�+a�: ;�r: ;. � in Decenber 1987, pub]. ished in January, and whi ch took ef f ect a co upl e of weeks ago. �e ordinanoe change made it allawable to have commercial uses including restaurarits and recreational-type uses in industrial zones. This is the f irst request to be prooessed tazder the revised ordinance. Mr. Robinson �ated the Riee Creek B�iness Center was located just east of Commeroe Circle East and south of 73rd Avenue. �e property was zaned li�t industrial located just south of the U. S. 9wim & Fitness facilitfi which is a a�manercial zone and was surrounded on the west by ather light industrial- type buildings. The Rioe Creek Bisiness Center was a multi-tenant building consisting of a large number of different office, commercial, and quasi-conunercial uses. Mr. Fobinson stated the billiard hall and arcacle would be located in the extrsne northeast oorner aF the building. �e two suites o�mbi�ed was 5,185 sq. ft. of floor area. The petitioners have surmitted a site plan for the developnent which included the potential for 16 pool tables. Also included was an arcade area. 7�ieir request was for five eideo games. In acldition, there was a small snack bar area adjaoent to the seating area where they are proposing to have eight tables, four chairs each, for a tatal of 32 seats. Mr. Robinson stated staff has had a ntmber of concerns relating to this request, anc3 some cyf these v�naerns have been resolved. Mr. Robinson stated that because it was a multi-tenant building with a oombination of offioe and aomnercial uses, the �rking situation changes on a regular basis wi�h tenant changes. The building does have a great deal of oommnercial tenancy. The billiard hall by itself would require 35 stalls with the majority being vonsidered as ao�aercial space. That would bring the total parking requireaent to 125 stalls. There are 166 stalls presently at the f acil ity so this would 1 eave a bal anoe of 41 stalls. Mr. Robinson stated the builcling was tnder a lease/share agreement with U. S. Swim & Fitness for parking on the most northerly row of parking after 5: 00 p. m and on weekends. Mr. Robinson stated he has worked out a plan with the building Leasing Agent, Ms. Sarah Harder, who was at the meeting. With the bill iard hall addition, there would be 34 additional commercial spaces and one office spaoe for a total of 35 spaoes, bringi.ng the total requirement for leased spaoe to 125 spaoes. 7�e progra�nning for the renaining vacant space woulcl be for offioe and warehouse and r� o�manercial for the rest of the building which would bring the parking to a total of 166 spaces. There was a stipu].ation that a�7ressed the parking situation. Mr. Robinson stated the seoond major concern was raised by the Pol ice Department dealing with the possibility of misconduct by jweniles and adults. Based on past experienoe in the city and other cities, there was the wncern that the glaoe would be used for loitering of juveniles which o�uld lead to drinking in the parking lot. This has been experienced by p3st billiard halls in the City of Friclley. Hawever, there were also good exa¢nples arotmr] the area aF billiard halls that are well managed and where -2- � � � : �i�� . ••��i,� • � �� > y�+='� �� ;• � there are none of these probl�ns. An example was CR Billiards in Coon Rapic�. Mr. Robinson stated staff was reoom�nenaing the follawing stipulations which had been put together by Y�oth the Comntnity Develoiment Department and the Fblioe Department: _ � 1. Arcade will be 1�mited to three c,�ames. '. (Mr. Robinson stated the reason for this stipulation was that an additional arcade feature would be an attractive nuisance in terms of catering more to the juvenile crawd which, they believe, oou].d ca�se some problens. ) 2. Limit seating to 20 seats in loLmge area. (Mr. Robinson stated this also would help prever�t the possibil ity of loitering. ) 3. Business to close at 1:00 a,m except � Thursday, Friday, and Saturday when 2:00 a m would be allawed. 4. Security lights for es�tire parking lot (approvec7 by staff) to be installed prior to opening. 5. �siness will si� and enforoe curfew for minors. 6. Business will praiide two adults on staff during evening hours fran 6: 00 p. m to closing. 7. &siness operators to p3trol parking lot and manage its misuse. 8. Tourn�nent and/or leac,�e play will mt be progra¢�ned during regular weekday business hours. 9. No ala�holic beverages will be served or allawed on premises. 10. Developnent o�wrber will ac�ept limitations on occupancy of renaining vacant spaoe should garking shortages result. 11. S�ecial use permit to be reviewed by Co�mcil on Ju�e 20, 1988, or soor�er if City cletermiryes there is a manage�nent protal.en which requires further restrictions or renaval. Mr. Betzold stated that right now U. S. S�aim & Fitness does use that nprthern raw of parking area. Would the parking situation be even tighter now with this billiard hall operation? Mr. Rnbinson statecl that was one of staff's ooncerns also. However U. S. S�wim & Fitness is only allowed to use that parking after hours and on weekends. The petitioner anticipates that the lion's share of the business for the billiard hall will be in th evening hours, s� it would not seem to werlap with the other building's business nee� for parking spaces. Most af the businesses close by 6: 00 p. m. -3- � ; �i,� �; ��,,i„r �:� �ia�a�M �. ��!=';?��: ;+ � Mr. �rna stated he questioned stipulation �6: "Business will provide two adults on staff during evening hours f raa 6: 00 p. m to closing. " What about adult supervision during the day? Mr. ltobinson stated the main aonoern was that during the after-sc�iool hours and evenings� there would be adequate supervision if prob�].ens should-ari�e. Mr. Barna cited the examgle of the oorner grooery store that has'an arcacle located in it and that hires teenagers who are out of school to work. Sometimes things can get wt o� hand without an adult present. He stated he felt there should be one ac3ult in the billiard hall at all times, e.specially during the su�snertime, on vacation days, hol idays, eta Mr. Saba asked why the hours had been extended to 2: 00 a. m on weekends, instead of 1:00 as previously reoo�nerided by staff. Mr. Fobinson stated the petitior�er feels that in order to make the business financially feasib�l.e, he needs the extra hour of operation. He will be catering not only to people who �se U. S. 9wim & Fitness, but also to se�nd shift workers wY�o mic�t war�t to play pool after work. Mr. Robinson stated there is a billiard hall in Coon Rapids located in the shopg�ing aenter across Sighway 47 fraa Northtawn called C. R B�lliards. Se stated a permit was recently grantec] by the Coon Rapids City Council to allav then to operate taitil 2: 00 a m Because the business has been handlecl in such a good manner, the a�wr�er has more reoently been gramed permission to operate �til 4 s 00 a. m Mr. lmbinson statecl staff feels that as along as there is the power to review the special use permit, if there are any problems, the City has enough insuranoe to manage the situation. Beca�se this billiard hall is in a district agart from residential, staff feels the chances fot causing prolalens to the neic,�bors were minimized; and if there are any problens relating to any criminal activity, the City will oertainly lazow about it and can take the appropriate action at that time. T.he petitioner was aware that if the business was r�t managed properly, he will lose his permit. Mr. Barna stated that if the billiard hall was located in a bowling alley or an area where it was zoned properly, would there be any restrictions on hours? Mr. Robinson stated he did not beli�ve there were ariy restrictions on hours in the proper zoning. Mr. Greg Asprath skated stated a lat af the Planning Coffinission's yuestions and wnc�erns seen to be regarding the hours of operation and any probleqns that vould cat�e. He ha+d cllecked with the Coon Rapids Pol ice Degartment, the Fridley Fire Department, and the Spring Lake Park Polioe Department. Ae has fotald that the Spring Lake Park Folioe Department has had no problems with a billiard hall called DOrl'S, and it is open �mtil 2: 00 a. m. C. R B�lliar� in Coon Rapicts has been granted permi.ssion to be open tmtil 4:00 a. m because of its good rea�rd. He stated that everyone he has tal ked to -4- . < �i�� : •�;�i�r� �;� v��M � �a�:+;� t; ;� � has said that management is the most important thing. If they have good management and rtn a clean operation, .they can avoi� those kinds of problens and keep people out who might cause problens. He stated their goal is to rtn a clean operaton. �iey want to sic� a long lease, so it was in their best interest to manage the business well. � Mr. Betzold asked Mr. Asproth if he had any problsns with the st}pulations as outlir�ed by staff. Mr. Asproth referred to stipulation #6 regarding two adults on staff during the cve�ing hours frcm 6: 00 p. m. to closing. He stated that during the beginning of the week, Nbnday-Tuesday-Wednesclay, there is not nearly the ntunber aE people as there is on the weekends. Acvording to their plan, the arcade area will be close to the desk so they can keep an eye on it. They also have a twa-way mirror so wY�n they are in the offic:e, they can also see what is going on in the arcacle area. During the early part of the week, they do rnt ryeed two people on staff at all times. However, they do want two adults on staff on the weekencls. Mr. Asprath stated he would agree to always having one aclult on staff. He felt one achil.t was �eded for every 25 people; but if there are more people than that, they would need another adul� At rwon anc7 during the s�nertime when there is not much busir�ess, there was not much sense in having too many people on staff. Mr. Asprath referred to stipulation #1 regarcling the arcade being limited to three c�tnes. I� stated he as learried from other billiard hall operations that there is u�ua].ly a waiting list for tables; and in order to get people to stay and wait for a pool table, they r�eed somethi.ng for th�a to do. He believed that by having video cpmes, that would keep people arounc7 until tahles opened up. Mr. Asproth stated that regarding parking, they have checkecl with other billiard halls to find out how other businesses are doing. At C. R Billiards, they okaserved that � a F'riday night at 9:00 p. m, there were 25 cars, so he did not anticipate a big garking problem because his business would be snaller than C. R Billiards. M�T by Mr• Saba. seoonded by Mr. Barna, to close the public hearing. iJPON A VOICE VOI'E, ALL VUPING AYE, Q�A]RPERSCN BETZCLD DECLARID THE AJBLIC HEARIlVG Q,O�ID AT 8: 00 P. NL (Ms. Sherek arrived at 8: 00 p. m) Mr. Rondrick asked the reason for the limitation to three games in the arcade area. Mr. Robinson stated that in the letter written by the petitioner (page I-H of the agenda), Mr. & Mrs. Asproth expressed their desire to have a top notch billiard hall where there would be tourname.nts and league play. Mr. Robinson stated that sotmded great, but staff was oonoerr�ed that the arcade -5- � �� _ ��,vl�,l �� v�� v. �i�=�;_ 1: +� 1 and the large seating area (also part of the proposal) would be an attractive place for juveniles to come and loiter, and there could be problems associated with tha� 7�e petitioner peroeived the arcade games as being available for people whp are waiting to play pool. Staff would like to limit the arcade to three c�nes. Originally, staff had reoommended no ga�nes at all. - Mr. Robinson stated that when the special use permit is reviewed; they can look at this again, along with the hours of operation. Mr. ae��a �tea tnat regarding the oonoern of having two adults on staff in the .evening hours during the early part of the week, if the Pol ice Depa.rtme.nt was wnoerned about this, they aould express that opinion to the City ��cil. Mr. Barna stated h� wondered why they were thinking there were g�ing to be a lot of juveniles in this billiard hall. It will draw people fram U. S. S�vim & Fitness, and in the su�maer it will draw people f rom the sunnner softball leagues at the C�onantmity Park. Most of these people are going to be adults. He did not think there was going to be that much trouble with juveniles as it was far frcm the residential areas and not as acoessible to juveniles. He sta�ted maybe they are werd�ing the trial period. Why don't they be more loose with the restrictions �ow rec�ardinq the n�nber of arcade games, staff ing, eta , and then when theY review the special use permit on Jtne 20, they can look at these things and see haw it is going. Mr. Robinson stated staff was certainly hoping there would not be those prohtens; however, they do not feel they should allow the permit to go without these restrictions. All these stipulations were g�rie wer carefully by both the Conmunity Developnent Deparizaent and the Pol ioe Departrae.nt. Mr. Betzold stated he felt they have to be cautious in the beginning. They do riot want to allaw so many things that they are hard to take back af ter the trial perial. Mr. Saba sugqested they have more than one review date, such as one year f rcm ryow in addition to the J�e 20 date. Things do change with seasons, and four months might r�ot be enouc,� time to really see how the business is doing. Mr. RQbinson stated that, originally, they had a six month rev iew, but the petitioner wanted time to a�me �ck for more arcade games or more seating and perhaps additi�al houra So, they decided to go with an earlier r�vi�v date. �ie C�ranission aould add another review clate on June 20 when this special use permit is reviewed for the first time. � by Mr. Rondrick, seoonded by Mr. Barna, to revomnerxi to City Council apprwal of S�ecial Use Permit, SP �88-02, by Greg Asproth, per Section 205.17.01. G 4 of the Fridley City Coc7e to allow a bill iard and an arcade ; per Section 205.17.O1.C.3 of the Fridley City Code to a11c�w a snack bar, all on Lot 4, 5, and 6, Block 1, Paeo Industrial Park, the same being 7178 University Avenue N. E, with the follawing stipulations: -6- � i ��+� �. ��.V�V� �l+ V��;% 1. .�.�:.� ��` �� .. ATCdC�C W]ll �72 �.lIR].t2C1 t0 �1rE'e Cj3ICl@S. 2. L�mit seating to 20 seats in lotmge area. 3. B�iness to close at 1:00 a m, except on Thursday, Friday, and Saturclay when 2:00 will be allawed. 4. Sec�rity li�ts for entire parking lot (approvec7 by staff) to be installed prior to openi.ng. 5. B�iness will sic,� and enforoe curfc�v for muwrs. 6. �iness will pravide orie a�ciult on staff at all 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. times when the busiryess is open. &�siriess operators to patrol parking lat and manage its misuse. Tournament and/or league play will mt be prograQm►ed durinq regular weekday business houra No ala�hol ic beverages will be served or allaved on prenises. Developne,nt o�wrier will accept limitations on occupancy of renaining vac,ant spaoe should parking shortages resul� S�ecial use permit to be reviewed by G'o�cil on J�e 20, 1988, or sooner if City determires there is a manage�nent protalan which requires further restrictions or renwal. ri UPON A VOI(E VOI'E, .ALL VOPIlJG AYE, Q�AIRPERSCN BETZQ,D DEQ,ARID THE MOTION C�RRIED UI�NIN[nJS,Y. 2. PIIBT.T[' j�ART1�Y': (��jDF.R�TTnN nF A pRF:T.TMTI�RV ATAT p S #S%-O7. HEATHER QAKS. BY B�RTC�C� BLnIn .. IN� :�ABLID 1L18/87) Being a replat of Lat 16, except the East 33 feet, Auditor's Subdivision No. 92, and Outlat A, Ao�rn Aills Addition, and that gart of Lot 14, Auditor's Subdivision No. 92, which lies East of the West 165 feet thereof, except the East 30 feet aF saicl Lat 14, all gerierally located at 5980 Stinson Boulevard N. E. �.4�T by Mr. Sak�, sewndecl by Ms. Sherek, to remove this item from the taale. UPON A VOICE VOI'E, ALI, VUPING AYE, QiAIItPERSCN gErZQ�D DEQ,ARED THE MOTION (�RRIED U1�NIl�DU3,Y. �.��. 3. PiIRT TC` HE.ARTNG• �ONSIDERATinN OF A FT T1VLTi�R'V Ai.AT p Q �$7 �% . HEATHER (�AKS. BY BIZ('_KNFR Ri1TTnF.�.S, INC.: Being a replat of Lot 16, except the East 33 feet, Auditor's Subdivisio� Na 92, arzci Outlot A, P,00rn Hi11s Addition, and that gart of Lot 14, Auditor's Sub�division ATo. 92, whiGh lies East o� the West 165 feet thereof, and Lot 25, Auditor's Subdivision, No. 92, except the southerly 150 feet including a ric,�t- of-way, and all that �rt of Lat 24, Auditor's Subdivision No. 92, except the south 150 feet of the east 80 feet of said Lot 24, including a ric�,it-of-�ay, all generally located at 5980 Stinson Boulevard N. E -7- � � ��,� �. �.�:�!ur ,� �� ia�a+ �� x�-'�t!; ;• � Ii�� q�[ By Mr. Rondrick, eeo�ndecl by Ms. Sherek, to wai.ve the reac3ing of the publ.ic hearing notioe and open the public hearing. iIPUN A VOI� VOI'E, ALL VOPIl�C AYE, Q�AIRPEItSCi`1 BETZCLD DECLARID THE ri0TI0N Q�,RRIED UI�NIl�+DUSLY AI�ID THE PUBLIC HEARING (�EN 19� 8:10 P. M. : - Mr. Robinson stated that o� Nwenber 18, 1987, a pub].ic hearing was held to discuss this plat which at that time included 12 lots. At that'time, the Planning Co�nission and staff saw there were ather properties not included in the plat which a�ulc7 benef it f rom the developnent and could use road access. 7�ie Planning Cwmnission directed staff and the petitioner to try to work out agreenents with the other vwr�ers of these vac� properties in the platting. Sinoe then, there have been ntanerous discussions and meetings with the parties involved: To�n Briclmer, Fmger Ettel, a�d Will iaaci dostello. Mr. Robinson stated that at this poir�, he believed they have the makinc,}s of an agreenerit for at least a 14 lot pla� Mr. Rnbinson reviewed the 12 lat plat and the 14 lot plat.. Mr. Robinson stated that at the Naveaber meeting, . staff did shaw that there was a possibility of including road acoess to both the Costello and Ettel properties which would bring the total lots to 15 new lots; actually, 17 lats if the Ette1 and Costello portions with existing houses were included. Mr. Robinson stated that subsequent to the Nove�nber 1987 meeting, Mr. Brickner and Mr. Ettel were �mable to oome to an agreement that was satisfactory to both parties. Mr. Brickner has subaaitted a plat which included 14 lots, including the Gostello portion, a 3/4 cul-de-sac, with the potential for a full cul-de- sac when the Ettel property is glatted. . Mr. Robinson stated that at this time, staff would rea�nanend appraval of the 14 lot plat and not the 12 lot plat, be�tse the 12 lat plat clid not pravide for wmprehensive develo�xnent of the property. If the 14 lot plat was approved, staff feels it is r�evessary for the city to build the street and put in the �ilities so there is only one �ntractor involved. This would eliminate the oonfusion and wmplexities of building utilities and road with two aoritractors. Mr. Robinson stated staff was reoonaaending the follawing stipulations: 1. Developer aqrees to city desic� ancl oonstruction of full cul-de-sac and util ities to facil itate 16 lats. �sts of which to be assessed against the properties (L16 of total street oost for each lat acoessing street and L15 0� total �ilities �st for eardl r�ew lat servi�ed by utilities - apportiorIInents inclucle Ettel plat). 2. Developer to sutmit a preliminary plat with dimensions, lot area, calcvlations, and easenents prior to Coimcil public hearing. 3. Developer to subnit a storm drainage plan prior to Cou�cil publ ic hearing. -8- e \�+� �. ��V�V �A y�.�.�},iT �, �.f�!.1. I• �a � 4. Plat to be desigled so as to provide for a full cul-�de-sac with the addition of the Ettel plat� 5. Storm sewer assessne.nts to be paid upon plat appraval. 6. �ark fee5 of $1,500 per lat to be paid with each builcling permi� Mr. Rnbinson stated that tnder this soenario, he would anticipat� that Mr. Ettel would proceed to desic� a preliminary plat for his property and prooess it through the Planning Co�mission and City Coimcil, and then in the spring the City would construct the full cul-de-sac and utilities and distribute the assessnents as outlir�ed. Mr. Robinson stated wnstructing the road by cbing it himself. Mr. Brickner was not in agreement with the City and utilities. 1Kr. Briclmer feels he can save costs Mr. �n Brickner stated he felt the original 12 lot plat was a good plat. '�e oost of the developnent was aonsiderah7.y less per lat. 'Zlze anallest lot in that plat was 10,000 sq. ft. , and the largest lot was 11,900 sq, ft. They wexe very nice lots, not abutting older hames, that would be more desirab�le and more valuable. Then, staff decidecl that would not be in the best irrterest of everyo� ooncaer�d. By cbing away with the bending of the bending of the street, their c�osts have gorie up oonsic3erably per lot. They have to forfeit some land to provide access to the Costello and Ettel properties. He already had the bids in to do the work himself, and now if the City d�es the raad and utilities, it will cost him 530,000 more plus ir�erest. Mr. Brickner stated he hacl ooritracts to purchase all the land except the Ettel land. So, he had control of 14 of the 16 lots at this time. It appeared that Mr. Ettel was cping to wntrol his pla� Mr. Briclaier stated they have the bulk of the property but are paying a terrible prioe for being the leader i.n this project. They are paying the price by having snaller, less valuab�le lats. 'ZRzey are paying the price by being foroed into letting the City do the road and utilities when he would prefer to do it himself. He can clo it considerably cheaper, and he hacl already arranged to d� that Mr. Brickner stated the new lats created are next to the Ettel home which was built in the early 1940's. �ey hope to build $140,000 homes, but now the lats on the east side will be af less val ue. He stated he did try to work some kind of agreement with Mr. Ettel but was unable to do so. He stated he objec*ed to all six stipulations. Mr. Brickner stated he had a contract with the Costello's ana wouia be willing to go for the 14 lat glat, even though the developnertt o�st would be more. He stated he was the leader in this project and had prwided all the ftmcls and gotten the ball rolling. Mr. Ettel was only paying a snall share of what his portion �no�.a �, .�a r�r. Brickner did not bel ieve there was any equity here at all. � , i, � •� „I.,1 `i •�� I��#li �. ��i:_;��; s� � ��3 Mr. Janes Tiller, represeming the Costello's, stated the Costello's were in favor a�' the 14 lat plat but were opposed to the 12 lot plat beca.use they would be denied access. They were opposed to the vacation of McRinley Street in the event the 14 lat glat was not approved. He stated he felt the vacation of McKinley Street should be wntingent upon the appraval of the 14 lat pl a� - Mr. (2�arles C�mpbell, representing Mr. Ettel, stated Mr. Ettel'was still willing to sell the property anal allaw Mr. Brickner to oontrol the entire projec�. It was his �nderstanc7ing that they were at the poir� where 5 cents per square foot was the differential between making a transaction. Mr. Ettel had oo�teroffered at 90 cents/sq. f� versus Mr. Brickner's recent offer of 85 cents/sq. ft. The reason Mr. Ettel had counteroffered and mai.ntai�d his offer o� 90 cerits/sq. f� was the fact that whereas all the ather people in the plat realistically have no other additional expenses, Mr. Ettel was looking at the demol ition of his existing garage anc� was basically required by city aode to v�nstruct a r�ew two car c�arage, . with the possibility of a one-car garage (although the prioe differential between two car versus one car garage was not that much) . They feel that in terms of bargaining in good f aith, the 90 cents/sq. ft. oftet was a good f aith offering oonsidering the $1,400 differenoe versus the 55,000 to put up a new garage. He oould not supply a� market data that would support the idea that Mr. Ettel would get back the moriey he would have to spend to improve the property, relative to the size and age of the e�ci.sting house. Mr. C�aapbell stated it was Mr. Briclmer's aonoern that he aor►trol the whole project, and Mr. Ettel did not have a prohlen with that, provided the two parties wuld aome to terms on what was an adequate prioe. Mr. (�npbell stated Mr. Ettel hacl no proble�n with the stipulations. Mr. Ettel and he would proL�ably g� forward and put a plat into effect as soon as the street was Y7ui1� Mr. Robinson stated if Mr. Ettel participated in the glat whereby the garage would be torn down to make room for the cul-de-sac, the garage must be replaoed and a hard surfaoe driveway installed to wnnect to the cul-cie-sac. Staff was willing to oonsider a single car garage if that would make the proj ec� wor k. Mr. Briclmer stated he had offered Mr. �tel 85 cents/sq. ft. which was more than anyone else had sold their land for. They would take down Mr. Ettel's garage and give him acoess to his lat at rn charge to him. But� in view of trying to get this project together, he would 1 ike to publ icly say that he would pay Mr. Ettel 90 cents/sq. f� Ae wanted to build a ni�e proj ec�. Mr. C�npbell stated Mr. Ettel would acoept Mr. Briclaler's offer; it was what they i�acl stipul ated all along. Mr. Mike Wallace, 993 Benjamin St., asked if any of the homeowners on Benjanin would be assessed for the utilities for this project. Mr. Robinson stated the aosts would be borne by the developer. -10- � , �� : �i�� . !�,��u� .� �� +�� ; �+�+: ; n ;� i Mr. Betzold asked Mr. Bricla�er if he would agree to the stipulations now that Mr. Ettel had ac.aepted his offer. Mr. Brickner stated he would have no prokalen with the stipulations as long as he oould put in the road anc7 utilities. _ Mr. Robinson stated staff would have no problen with Mr. Briclaier doing the road and utilities as long as it was all under one ownership. � He stated stipulation #1 could be deleted. However, he would 1 ike to acld a stipulation related to the aonstruction of the new garage and the driveway to the Ettel house. Zhey mi�t have to require a letter of credit or bond to ensure that the garage is built before the lot is sold. Mr. Barna stated he wanted to again express his o�noern about the possible f�ure requests for varianoes and if they aould try to make sure that the lats are not so shallaw after setbacks and that the houses are not set on the lat in such a way as to precipitate requirenents for varianoes sometime in the future with additional developnent on the lots. Mr. Rnbinson stated that at the last meeting, . the developer did feel he �uld build houses on the lots without variances. The lot areas do meet aocle. Mr. Barna stated he just warYted staft to doublecheck on the glaoement of the north/south gla�ttent of the street that it was not so far west or east as to cause the situation where the cul-de-�c aoulc7 cause future requirenents for varianoes for decks, swi�ning pools, eta Mr. Robertson stated staff vould certainly do that, . but these are Lmique lots created essentially to salve a proka].en and meet some community needs. Because the lots are �ique, even thou� they raould try to ensure they are as well desic,�ed as p�ssible, thei r tniquer�ess would essemially not cr eate a prohlen 3n a future hardship f inding Mr. C�mpbell stated Mr. Ettel had no problesn with the compliance on the removal of the garage. Aowever, it would f acil itate the sal e of the property if they had some leeway in terms of when that has to be a�nstructeol, . in terms of being able to work with the future buyer of the house, and whether or n�t th�y are allowed to build a one-car or two-car garage, because it would help to sell the house. Mr. Betzold suggested Mr. Ettel work with staff before the City Council meeting. �.Q�1 by Mr. Rondrick, sewnded by Mr. Barna, to close the puh7.ic hearing. iIPON A VOICE VOI'E, .ALL VU.PING A�, �iAII2PERSC�1 BEI`ZCLD DEQ,ARID THE PUBLIC HEARIlVG Q�C16ID AT 8: 40 P. M. �IQ� by Ms. Sherek, sewnded by Mr. appr ov al of Pr el im ina ry Pl at, P. S. Builders, Inc. , being a replat o� Lot -11- B�arna, to recommend to City Coimcil #87-07, Heather Oaks, by Brickner 16, except the East 33 feet, Auditor's J � �� _ ��lu • � �I�� . ��.�. !: i+ 1 Subdivisiaaz No. 92, and Outlot A, Aoorn Aills Addition, and that part of Lot 14, Auditor's Subdivision No. 92, which lies East of the West 165 feet thereof, and Lot 25, Auditor's Subdivision No. 92, except the southerly 150 feet including a right- of-way, and all that part of Lot 24, Auditor's Subdivision Na 92, except the south 150 feet of the east 80 fe�t of saic7 Lot 24, including a right-of-way, all generally located at 5980 �tinson Boulevard N. E with the follawing stipulations: 1. Developer to surmit a preliminary plat with dimensions, �ot area calculations and easements prior to Cotmcil public 2. 3. 4. 5. hearing. Developer to sut�nit a storm drainage plan public hearing. Plat to be desic�ed so as to p�avide for with the addition of the Ettel property. Storm sewer assessnents to be paid prior Park fees of $1,500 per each new c�aaelling each new building permit. prior to Cotmcil a f ull cul-de-sac to plat appraval. to be paid with 6. The Ettel property to have a new garage with a c3riveway o�nnecting to the rrew cul-de-sac,.both to be o�nstructed prior to the transfer of the o�wnership of the old Ettel house paroel. A letter o� credit in the aQao�mt a� 55,000 to be subnitted to the City of FricIley prior to the transfer to o�ver said improvenents. UPON A VOICE VOI.'E, ALL VOPING AYEr Q�AIltPERSCN BETZCLD DECZARID THE MOTION Q�,RRIED UI�INIl�DI)3,Y. 4. (Xh"*,��ERnmTON OF A VACATION. SAV #87-11. BY BRI� �nin .. INC. : QTabled 11J18/87) To vacate that part af McRinley Street as dedicated in the Plat of Acorn Hi11 Addition and together with the Northerly extension of said McKinley Street to the south lir�e of the Plat of Amber Oaks, generally located at 5980 Stinson Boulevard N. E � by N1s. Sherek, sewnded by Mr. Nielsen, to r�nove this it�n f rom the takale. UPON A VOI� VOl'E, ALL VOPING A7�, Q3AIRP�tSC[�T B�TZQ,D DECZARID TflE MOTION Q�RRIED UNANIl�WSLY. �Q�1 by Mr. Barna, seoonded by Mr. Saba, to recommend to City Council approval o� Vacation, SAV #87-11. to vacate that part of McKinley Street as dedicated in the Plat of Aoorn Hill A3dition and together with the Northerly extension of said McRintey Street to the South line of the Plat of Amber Oaks, generally located at 5980 Stinson Boulevard N.E., with the stipulation that the vacati� be a��ingent upon the f inal apprwal of the compl ete 17 lat pla� UPON A VOICE VOI'E, ALL VOPIl� AYE� aE�AIRPERS�1 B�TZCLD DEQ�ARID TSE NlDTION (�RRIED UI�NIl4DU3,Y. Mr. Robinson stated the City Council would set a publ ic hearing date at -12- : �i�� : !�,�i�r • � ,,i�a�M �. ��:�;. r• ;� � their F�ebruary 22nd meeting for March 7, at which time both the vacation and the plat would be heard by the City Cotmcil. Mr. Betzold thanked all the parties involved for working harcl and making this proj ec:t happen. He stated this was going to be a very nioe addi.tion to the City of Fridley. _ - + a��! �t 1� �. � �� .1 Jv T_� �__ `�: ��M , •� �I� • � U� �. �k . �4�T by Ms. Sherek, seoonded by Mr. Saba, to receive the Jan. 7, 1988, At�nan Resouroes Qo�¢nission minutes. UPON A VOI� V01.'E, ALL VOPING AYE, QiFiIltPERSCN BETZCLD DEQ,ARED THE MOTION (�RRIED U1�1NINrX1SLY. • ; 7M � l; �i I: �+ ��1� i�� u��+ : �� != 4� !� �� • � u� �l � M�I�T by Mr. Nielsen, sewnded by Mr. Rondrick, to receive the Jan. 19, 1988, Erivirormerital Quality Qoa�nissi� minutes. UPON A VOICE VOl'E� .ALL VOPIl� Ai�� CBfA�tPERSqv BETZQ,D DEQ,ARID THE MOTION C�RRIED UI�NIM�LTSLY. +?� I Iz�ll; �� - -_ - !�� •� v �:a4 � M�i47� by Mr. Barna, seoonded by Mr. Rondrick, to receive the Jan. 26, 1988, Appeals Caranission minutes. UPON A VOI� VOI'E, ALL VClrIlJG A�, �PERS�1 BE�ZCLD DEQ,ARED THE MOTION (�RRIED UI�1N7�+WSLY. ��4�� , •�• •�• Mr. Robinson stateci last year the City Council approved a three year plan. The 1987 pl� was well t�der way. At this time, there were some changes to the 1988 plan, . primarily based on the fact that the allocation was reduoed to 51�4,658. Scme g�od news was that the portion that was allocated by the City to the Anoka County Assessment Network was pickecl up by the CoLmty in a r�venue sharing progran. Mr. Robinson stated that util iz ing the �104, 658, they have increased the share to Riverview Heights because they have fotnd that the purchase and relocaton o�sts are sanewhat higher than anticipated. Hunan Servioes at 15� was $15,699. That left a balance of $22,000 for Commercial Rehab/Blic�ted Property Aoquisition Redevelopaent. Mr. Fobinson statecl that the map on the second page of the hand-out shawed the progress so faz in the Riverview Heights aoquisition project. Mr. Robertson stated Mr. Bil.l H�t had called to their attention that -13- � e ��+� +. ��,V�J� , l �/� V�'�"'M �i. ��!�1. li 1, I .�.� this prop�sed allocaton to reflect the cut by HUD did cut the H�unan Servioes alloc�ation by 5900. If staff was sucoessful in getting a DNR cg ant, they will see if they can 7 u9g1 e that somehaw w ith th e pr ope r ty aoquisition and restore the allocation to Huanan Resources as much as possible. Right now they are dealing wih the 15$ limit for Human Resouraes. ' �q�Q� by Mr. Rondrick, seo�nded by Mr. Barna� to accep� the' 1988 CDBG proposal and gass it on to City Cot�cil. UPON A VOI� VOi'E, ALL VO►PING AYE, Q3AIRPERSON BETZCg,D DECT�ARID THE NDTION (�RRIED UI�NINDITSLY. � �. � )C � u►�� , Mr. Saba, 9eQOnded by Mr. Barna, to adjourn the meeting. Upon a voive vote, all vating aye, Qzairperson Betzold declaxed the mation carried unanimously, and the February 10, 1988, Planning Commission meeting adjourned at 8:54 p�,m Respectfully su?mitted, �- ..-x c �` �t L Saba Reoording Secretary -14- � :� : . : - � - --�- . �-�:�-F-- _: _ , - �� - - - . . - > . , _ :- �, . _� _:-�- _ � -�- rt . ,� . . . � _ _--- � _z '; : � - .�_ �' qTY OF FRIDLEY . d491 UNIVERSITY AVE. N.E. � � � e� FRIDLEY, MN 6s4sz � SPECIAL USE PERMIT SP # -03 (6 7 2)671-9460 ' � � J g � -� S�'EC,ZAL TJSE PIItNIIT FEE �� RD(EIPr � � 93�0 - - L .. _ s��ID �n�c anra►�.ssmN �rn�c n�: 3 � 9 � 88 - _ sai� crr�r a�. r�rn�c n�: . --`� - , PROPERTY INFORMATION r - - _ � � PROPf�tTY ADIRFSS �'i400 Central Avenue N.E. . � LIa7lYJ J.6'i7�R1�1,W1Y i � ,. `- .. . _'.. �f: _. ' - - - _ _ . � _... �-. , r _ -a�. j-,; "' °' � _ �: LOT ��ffiAC.K _ ,��' 'II2A(T�ADDI'I+�I+T _ Heiva�'1 '�°i`ce reek. Terraic� PRF5II�1T ZONII� M 1 AQ2EAGE ' 1.47 , SP�CIAL USE PERMIT BEIlJG APPLIED 1�Rt 1. Ret8i1 Sales of Mobi1 Hnme b R�� arta � accessories_ - Buildinl� main floor front and 2 ext 'or cat,►ner RA�PA �, ar.,,-naQ - � - -- _ _. - , within the fenced lot. SDCTION �' R�IE mDE: * * � * * � * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * � * * * � : * * t * * * * * � * * � * * * FEE OWNER INFORMATION ^� � Wi11 Harrie PHQ�1E � 571-�211 •��•a. SIGNAZURE �,�l,C� .t�t��► nATE 2-2-88 *�*e* * �°*t*a* * * � *S* ,gt'* * *��#r�r ��t*8� �°��i$r*t,�i $r��ES��i� * * * � PETITIONER INFORMATION , _ w— �8i—Z�Zs NAN� Frank Kitterman pHq�jE �H- �.Zp_�2g2 � 7329 Mariner Drive, Maple Grove, Minnesota 55�69 SIGI�URE - . �� 2-2-88 t * * * �t * * ;� # * �t * � ,t � * * * ,t � * * �t � * * * * * � ,x � * * * * � * * * * * * PLANNIl�IG �1+�QSSION: APPROVID �1Im nATE _ QTY �IJNCII�:� APHtaVID D�TIED DATE STIAJI�AT�1S: lA PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE '�iE � PL1�I�Il�TING �NYNISSION Notioe is hereby given that there will be a Publ ic Hearing of the P1 anning Conmission of the City of Fridley in the City Hall at 6431 University Avenue Northeast on Wec�esday, March 9, 1988 in the Council Chamber at 7: 30 p. m. for the purpose of: Consideration of a Special Use Permit, SP �88-03, by Frank Ritterman per 8ection 205.17.O1.C.2 of the Fridley City Coa1e, to allow retail sales of mobile hane and R V. parts and avicessories; per �ection 205.17.O1.G 11 of the Fridley City Code, to al,law exterior storage of materials and equipment on Lot 1, Block 1, Herwal Rice Creek Terraoe, the same being 6400 Central Avenue N.E. Any and all persons desiring to be heard shall be given an opportunity at the above stated time and plaoe. DON�ILD BETZCLD CHAIRN�,N PLAI�TING �A'�IISSION Publish: February 24, 1988 March 2, 1988 Any questions related to this item may be referred to the Fridley Co�nunity Develogne.nt Department, 571-3450. SP 4i 88-03 Frank Kitterman City Council Members Mayor Nee City Manager Chairperson of Planning Frank Kitterman 7329 Mariner Drive Maple Grove, MN 55369 Will Harris 6400 Central Avenue N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Sandees Cafe 6490 Central Avenue N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Margaret Brickner 1282 Mississippi Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Margaret Brickner 6199 Heather Place N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 George DeMarais 6411 Pierce Street N.E. Fridley, NIN 55432 Stanley Dubanoski 6423 Pierce Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Jerry Jacobson 6401 Pierce Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Jerry Jacobson 3846 Independence New Hope, MN 55427 Faye Christianson 6389 Pierce Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Faye Christianson 6391 Pierce Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 IlAILING LIST Donald Johannes 6373 Pierce Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Donald Johannes 6377 Pierce Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Donald Johannes 1620 Rice Creek Road N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Duane Levandowski 6361 Pierce Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Douglas Tanner 6355 Pierce Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Douglas Tanner 2206 St. Anthony Boulevard Minneapolis, MN 55418 Douglas Tanner 6357 Pierce Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Mark Clasen 6345 Pierce Street NE. Fridley, MN 55432 Mark Clasen 5332 Raymond Avenue Moundsview, MN 55112 Midwest Van and Storage 6400 Central Avenue N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Will Harris 3942 Reservior Boulevard Columbia Heights, MN 55421 Fortune Investments 4611 E 36th Street Minneapolis, MN 55406 Alfred Kells 6400 Pierce Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Planning 2/19/88 Council Douglas Johnson 6388 Pierce Street N.E. Fridley, NIN 55432 Gary Fischer 6378 Pierce Street N.E. 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I� ., ., �� -=� �'.�,��; : , +.... _ �;.�.. i ,�--� �. • • � .,: r; - - - • -B �Cr%., - � � �i � � � � � � � � . � �� . � � _ _ . ; .� ; �: � � � � � : � � � � ' t L-• -_.._--.._ .- --- - � �I SITE PLAN SP 4�88-03 Frank Kitterman ELEVATION IG � IH / 1rEND Z0: . Jim Robinson, Planning Coordinator N'EP'D F�M: Lisa C�►pbell, Code Enforanent 1�END L1�TE : January 12, 1988 SUBJE(�: Mic�►iest Van & Storage/6400 Central I� On January 11, 1988, as per your request I c�onducted an onsite inspection for the above referenced site for Zoning Code compliance. T�is inspection revealed non,comptianae with rec,prd to outside storage and the sale of fish houses fraa the lo�t. A notive of non-compliance was issued on January 12, 1988 and a sewnd inspectio� will be o�nducted on January 25, 1988. Please see attadunent � 1. Review of the address file indicates �at the prohl,en of outside storage has been a long-standing or�e. �ere were several citations issued in the early ei�ties by Steve Olson and at least one (1) court appearance in which the a�rner, Mr. Will Harris pleaded quilty and paid a fi.r�e. I am anticipating the same n�n-responsive disposition and the likelihood of issuing a citation of ny aan in a little more than fifteen (15) days. I will attempt to speak with Mr. Harris by phone to secvre c�mplianoe, before I issue the citation, as well as aonsult with you. Wi� regard to p�teritial redevelopnent a list of site imprwenents follaws: 1. Upgrade existing fencing ar� screening. 2. 7mplenent City app�oved Landsape Plan. 3. Install autanatic sp�inkling at east ricjlt-of�way. 4. Resurfaae and strip �arking lo�t. 5. q�rbing at the east end of lat may need to be t�pgraded. 6. l�rmanant curbing should be installed at paraQaeter of lot. Regrading #1 above ti�e fenoe has been screened but not adequately and this ^`' screening should be replaced. 7he screening material is not consistant �rouc�out anc] cbes not have a pleasant appearance. No landscape plaf�'has „ been impl emented and such impl ementation shoul d be a pr i or i ty in redevelognent. With the siaw o�ver it is difficult to determine if the lot has been resuraoed and stripped already. �is should be looked into in the eve.nt that ti�e site is ree-,ideveloped. Wi� regard to cvrbing I would leave any reoamnendations to your descretion. An aerial Fhoto is attadzed to assist you in viewing the sibe. Robinson, Janes January 12, 1986 �ge 2 Finally, in Agril 1983, the City Co�cil apprwed a Varianae fa the reduction of the front and side yard setbacks. Along with this Variance several stipulations were issued G7ahn FLora's fol-low-up meno to Nasim is attadzed for your infamation). One stipulation was the implenentation of a Landscape Plan. No sudi impcoveaent has been completed. With this in mind and the a,ir�er's histoiy of n�n-complianoe witi� i�e Zoning Code any furtrfer Land Use �rmits petitians �ould be carefully aonsidered, in order that the City may obtain a�ocnplianoe and o�nsiderahle site imFrwenents. 1�8&-6 II � c�rY oF �i o��r 2 d491 UNIVERSITY AVE. N.E. i FRIDLEY, MN Sb4S2 LOT SPLIT FORM L.S. '�IE' ��'�l '� �612)571-3450 on �/�z � ?�T SPLIT FEE DO PARR FEE�fSpD RE�IFP #�O U � sa��r� �n�c mr�ass� i►�rnac n�: �- i- �� s��m crrY aoorx� r��-rnac n�: -,__ PROPERTY iNFORMATION � . . ��s: 1 I 3 3—► i�� '= I�AL DESQtIPPION: . • - LOT �� BL+OQt 'II2ACT/ADDIT PRFSIIVT ZONIlJG � I REASON F�DR LOT SPLIT: A sketch c� the �operty and the p�oposed lot split with any existing structures shawn stiould acaam�riy this application. � ' �, � ,c � A �e, � `� �inSL�C�G �� .� C.' Jn / ^/ /4�.l�i � ,�� r * �t * * !r �k * 1t * * it 1k ik it ♦t �R �t * * � 1t * �k �k it �k dt �k it �k * * * * * it * * ik * �Ik FEE OWNER INFORMATION �� y �� S 3 sicru�.v� � ' n� `' , /�',19�� *o*e*t* *Co*t*a*t*P*r*h*s s * �'e� �e�s*m�s� �i�n*f*� �r* * *o*p*o*e�s�.n�.* * * * PETITIONER INFORMATION rmr� SfJ�'1� Px� � i: � � : �. .S�s�� i`�'� * * tk ic t�r �k �i * �c tk �k �4 t * * tk �r � * * * i� * * �k !r �Ir �k ir �k t�r * * �r �k * ic * ir * �k �k �nvc anr�ssmrt : x�pxwm �vrm nA� c�� aovr� : ��xo� nr�� n�,� STIPULATmNS: � `� �� _ ;:� CITYOF FR[DLEY CIVIC CENTER • 6431 UNIVERSITY AVE. N.E. FRIDLEY, MINNESOTA 55432 • PHONE (612) 571-3450 F�ebruaty 26, 1988 ZO WH(�'! IT N�3Y QNCE�i: 'Ihe City of Fridley Planriing Qommission will be holcling an informal p�lic hearing on a request for a Iot Split, L.S. #88-01, by Gerald G. John.son, to split Iots 5 and 6, Lucia lane Addition, in order to create three buildable lots, generally located at 1133-1145 Nlississippi Street N.E. � Anyone who wishes t�o be heard shall be given the o�portunity at the Planning Cc�nission �eting on Wech�esday, March 9, 1988, in the ��cil �amb�rs of C�ty Hall at 6431 University Avenue N.E., at 7:30 p.m. DOIdAID BETZOLD Q3AZRPERSCi�T PLAT�TING Q'X��2ISSICI�T � L.S. #88-01 Gerald G. Johnson Gerald G. Jcahnson 712 River Iane Anaka, Mn. 55303 Dean B. 'Ihomas 6550 Lucia lane �idley, Nh. 55432 Ibnald L Holderness 6546 Lucia lane Fridley, Mn. 55432 Herbert F. Rainey 503 Mississippi St. N.E. Fridley, Nh. 55432 Herbert F. Rainey 6540 Lucia lane Fridley, Nh. 55432 Nlartin B. Imbertson 6564 Pieroe St. N.E. Fridley, Nh. 55432 Verncn E. Brewers 6548 Pieroe St. N.E. Fridley, Mn. 55432 Wayne Hitchcock 6532 Pierae St. N.E. Fridley, N.h. 55432 Douglas M. La�nere 6516 Pierae St. N.E. Fridley, Nh. 55432 Henzy T. N.�lcher 6500 Pierce St. N.E. Fridley, Nh. 55432 E[tunett J. Raaen 6501 Iucia lane F'ridley, Mn. 55432 C,].arenoe A. T.imo 6517 Iucia lane Fridley, N.�. 55432 NF�ILING LIST Planning 2-26-88 City Q�uncil xobert E. systxan 6533 Lucia Lane Fridley, N�n. 5543'2 Jackie R. Young 6549 I3ucia Lane Fridley, Mn. 55432 l�arl C. CYosser 6565 Lucia l�ne Fridley, Nh. 55432 Eugene T. Iane 1132 Mississippi St. N.E. Fridley, Mn. 55432 Neil W. Stuber 6452 Dellwood Drive Fridley, Nh. 55432 Russell L. Burris 1150 Mississippi St. N.E. Fridley, Mn. 55432 Phyllis M. Kachina 6476 Dellwood Drive Fridley, Mn. 55432 Helen M. Vagovich 1200 Mississippi St. N.E. Fridley, Mn. 55432 City Q�uncil Members Ci.ty Manager Mayor Nee Qiairperson of Planning �amm�ission 2B L.S. 4�88-01 Gerald Johnson ZC LOCATION MAP /S �� ~��1�� 7V jI1! �1� • • • � � N � r�� i �� I li �a � • • • • • • • 87 ZA � �•s � � d • � _ 1s • � � • : �' lP � V �-♦ - s i Z� s p ��° Z C � a i a � c�c s f � J �ll i M / /f / �c is t �a ' - �� v � _ 3 is s �.� Q� O a. r s i� Os v �� j �' ��s �' s s m v, J B B� ��SS� � � // /P /.i j r � •�� •��r � ' �� / I � � � � �� ► �� ,.. � �`� . ( !�`,� i�ii� ��rr ;... r�!�� ,::: . �iii� ��+� iiiir . i Y�i�I � iii�. � � � � � � / �'•♦•♦,•••' •�`�t�I �♦�•� v�i��♦ .� t ��r��!�'!�!�� +��►�� .'�f��►♦ ►�� !�.��:��:� � � �. i��j�� i�� i♦�� i�� l�� ' �••� � C � � � � L.S. �88-01 Gerald Johnson . a . .. . . . � � ;�'.. �.� �� • t�� '! �. 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V v � W � � � � a a � � � � � � � SITE PLAN 2E L.S. #88-01 Cerald G. Johnson Gexald G. Johnson 712 River Lane Anaka, Mn. 55303 Dean B. �omas 6550 Lucia Lane F`ridley, Mn. 55432 Donald L Holderness 6546 Lucia lane F'ridley, Mn. 55432 Herbert F. Rainey 503 Mississippi St. N.E. Fridl�y, Mn. 55432 Herbert F. Rainey 6540 Lucia lane Fridley, Niz. 55432 Martin B. Imbertson 6564 Pieroe St. N.E. Fridley, N�. 55432 Vern� E. Brewers 6548 Pieroe St. N.E. Fri.dley, Mn. 55432 Wayne Hitchcock 6532 Pieroe St. N.E. Fridley, N�. 55432 Doiiglas M. Iamere 6516 Pierae St. N.E. Fridley, Nh. 55432 Henzy T. Melcher 6500 Pierce St. N.E. Fridley, Nh. 55432 �tt J. Ra�n 6501 Lucia lane Fridley, Mn. 55432 Cl,arenc�e A. Tim� 6517 Iucia Lane Fridley, 1�. 55432 MATLING LIST Planning 2-26-88 City �uncil R�bert E. Bystrcm 6533 Lucia Lane Fridley, Mn, 554�2 Jackie R Young 6549 Lucia lane Fridley, Mn. 55432 Mearl C. Crosser 6565 Lucia Lane Fridley, Nh. 55432 E�gene T. iane 1132 Mississippi St. N.E. FYidley, Mn. 55432 Neil W. Stuber 6452 Dellwood Drive Fridley, Nh. 55432 Russell L. Burris 1150 Mi.ssissippi St. N.E. Fridley, Mn. 55432 Phyllis M. Kachina 6476 Dellwood Drive Fridley, Mn. 55432 Helen M. Vagovich 1200 Mississippi St. N.E. Fridley, Mn. 55432 C�ty Oouncil Members City Manager Mayor Nee Qzairperson of Planning O�unission L.S. 4�88-01 LOCATtON MAP i � �l � � .� W � � � �� z v � 3 Q 1 0 Q_I t � $ � J 9 _�`�I ;•; � , �.,'�i ►; �,��t, �- � . � � ►: :� ,. :� _� ; � e� C ONING MAP � � L.S. 4�88-01 Gerald Johnson . � . �. . . � '' " . 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O'06 I � N � n �a O .; � � ,� � Z ,o r, � � N � � � N � : 0 �� S9 'ON AdM.HJIH �Nf1a1 31d1S , 0 � u _ 0 v . � Z � .Z Q . � . V �— W � � � � a a � � �// v/ � � SITE PLAN -,i : QTY OF FRIDLEY HQ7SIl�IG & REOEVS,�MENT AUTHCitITy 1KII�T7ES, .�JARY 14, 1988 � : k� • :�� ; Chairperson Co�nmers called the January 14, 1988, Housing & Redevelopment Authority mzeting to order at 7: 06 p. m I T. c r�.r.; . Members Preserit: Larry Coamners, Virginia Schnabel, Walter Rasmussen, . John Meyer Me�nbers Absent: Duane Prairie Others Preserit : Jock Robertson, . E�cecutive Director of �tA Rick Pri�l, Finanoe Director Jul ie Burt, . Asst. Finanoe Off ioer Dave N�1, . HIzA Attorney Lou & J�e LLmdgren, 343 Rellogg Blvd. , St. Paul Mervin Mir�ess, 6824 C'andlc�wood Circle, Brooklyn Park Alan Rouse, 1786 Hennepin Ave. S, Mpls. Pat P�elstring. Business Develognerit Serviaes ; � � ;�� l:_ • � �;M�Iv�: �1; � Q_:� �. � �� l� !J4u� �I � 19,,� ; MM v� �l ly � MS�7,Q1� by Mr. Meyer, seoonded by Mr. Ras�mussen, . to apprave the December 20, 1987, Housing & Rec3evelogne.nt Authority minutes as written IJPON A VOI(E V0�lE, , ALi, VOPING AYE, . CHAIRPERSCi�1 Q�NIl�+lEiiS DECC,ARED THE MOTION CF�RR�D U1141NIlKxJSLY. �� !. l� a�;-�_� • � • ! .1�!� ra_ � �M�f�; • �; �� 4 Mr. Robertson stated he would like to give the HRA a sta�unary of his meno to the HRA dated January 8, 1988. Fssentially, what Staff was saying was that the Develognent Contract with Lou Lundgren was terminated in 1986, and Mr. i�mdgren has acJciowledged that the contract was lawfully terminated and he has since then oonsistently acknowledged that he is operating without the protectian of any clevelogne.nt oontract. Staff was reac>n�nending that the HRA draw on the entire letter of credit in the stnn of 5200,000 as partial liquidated c7amages and reimbursement of expenses, . with the �mderstanding that all or part of that stan wuld be ref�ded to Mr. Lundgren if he is sucoessf ul in securing f inancing for the proj ect. Mr. Robertson stated he wuld entanerate a n«aber of reasons why he felt the HRA should call the letter of credit, but he would wait until the appropriate tuae when the HRA decided to call � him for those reasons. Mr. LLmdgren stated the status as of that day was he had been told he would reoeive a letter of inter�t on Monday or Tuesday of that week f rom the Carnegie Ewans group. Iie stated he has not yet received that letter. Ae was hoping he would have cptten so�nething before the meeting 1- 0,� r�i,-s•�� 5i�5i �i�ul�l�l _. �/4::� s M�/ V�� :. _ f_� 11: +� •� that would have indicated that the letter of interit was on its way. He was told yesterday that Carnegie Evans was still working on the letter of credit and that he would have it very shortly. He realized the HRA has heard all this before, . and he has heard it before. He stated he had no differenoe of agreement with Mr. Robertson's repor� He was hoping that possibly by Friday or Monday he would have that letter of inte�, . in which case he would preslnt it� Mr. L�dgren stated what the plan was uzder that operation was that if they get the letter af irYtent, . it would give the oonditions tmder which the wmnit�aent would be made. At that particular point in time, . he would go clirectly to meet with the lender and,.presunably,.also with the oontractor at the same time. The ooritractor was supposedly will ing to issue three letters of credit: (1) one letter of credit would be for the wnstruction laan and/or any gap that ap�ears between the oam�nitment �no�t and the total oonstruction aQnaimt; (2) a letter of oo�nnitment to take plaoe to oover that gap between the construction period and the rental period; (3) a letter of credit to take up a guarantee period of about four years on a diminishing scale--4� guaranteed the f irst year. • going down to 3$ the follawing year,.etc.-�to aover any possible gaps in the early years of the project. Mr. Ianclgren stated he did suggest to Mr. Robertson the possibil ity that if he was able to wme in within a few days with a letter of intent, . if the HRA wishecl, , he oould probably su�pplant the letter of credit which the HRA now has with � idemical letter of credit with a date of 60 or 90 days after that point. 7�is was an option the HRA oould have if they wanted i� Mr. Imbertson stated the HRA has tntil February 1 to actually execute the action on the letter of credit. Ae was sympathetic with Mr. L�dgren; anc7 if the letter of intent was arriving within a couple of days, . the HRA would still have time to act. If Staff was author izea to act talder vertain conditions,.he woud ask that he and Mr. Newman be authorized to r�egotiate such an extension. Mr. Ne�nnan stated that fraa what he was hearing, . even if Mr. Lundgren gets this letter of interit, .what the letter will do is represent the wnditions that have to be met before the f inancing will be issued. Iie suspecteci that at this point, . those are sic�if icarrt. Sec�ndly, they do not have a clevelopnent contract, . and they are not going to have a developnent oontract before this letter of credit expires, because the HRA will mt loe meeti.ng again and they are rnt going to be able to draft one within two weeks. If the HRA was inclir�ecl to follaw Mr. Robertson's suggestiwz, his initial oomanents would be: (1) Before the HRA agrees to this extensioa�, . that Mr. I.�dgr en be r equi red to pr ov ide ev idence of 100� of the f inancing. Ae bel ieved the HRA would want the ent i re package in plaoe before there were any extensions. (2) Mr. Fobertson is going to have to be vested with the cliscretion as to wY�ther or not the "la�ndry list" of oonditions is so extensive, . it is just not feasible. If the HRA was inrlined to follaa Mr. Rnbertson's suggestion, he would suggest they set a deac7line of no later than 5:00 p.m on Tuesday, . -2- � •,�. � �. ; �� ail� �Javi��r �k;:�.; 44� ��# �, l: �! 1::� January 26, 1988. That then gives Mr. Robertson three days in which to take the neoessary steps back on the latter. l�ir. Rasa�,ssen �ated the HRA would c�ertainly want to have another letter of credit replacing the current letter of credit. It seemed inconceivable to him, . knowing the history of the proj ect and the intricacies of putting this kind of projec� together, . that this oould be acoomplished in this perial of time. Mr. Newman stated Staff was also very skeptical, t�ut they want to give Mr. Ltaidgren the bernfit o� the doubt. He stated his comments were based on the asstmption that there would be a new letter of credit issued f or the additional 60-day perioc7. Mr. Caiuners stated if Mr. L�mdgren does not have that letter of intent and it obes not look like it is realistic, . it was his �derstanding that the HRA would draw an Mr. Limdgren's letter of credit before F�bruary 1. Mr. Robertson stated the deadlire for Mr. Lundgren for fulfilling all these conditions was January 26. He stated he would negotiate an extension only with the review and apprwal of Mr. Newman. Mr. Meyer stated he would vate against any matian to call Mr. I�ndgren's letter of credit, .becatse he felt there was a legitimate question that should be debated amoaig theaselves as to whether or not the letter of credit should be called at all. Any mation he was ariticipating on this sa�re would aukomatically ass�e that the letter of credit would be revoked or callecl if oertain a�nditions were �ot fulfilled. Ais aomment would be to speak against such a mation. Mr. N�wman stated that, .prooedurally, if it was the HRA's desire for Staff to r�ot act on Mr. Liuidgren's letter of credit, the Staff needed a mation to that effect. This was not a situation where the HRA could taYale any action on the letter of credit as they have clorie in the gast. They need a mation to release the letter of credit back to Mr. L�dgren It would be his interpretation that because of the contract they have entered into and the letter of credit that has been pravided,.the Staff is obligated to collect that letter of credit unless they are specif ically di.rected r�ot to act on i� �.Q.� by NLs. Schnabel, . seconded by Mr. Ras�nussen, . to remove the wnsideration of Mr. Lundgren's letter of credit from the table and bring it up for oonsideration. UPON A VOI� VOl'E, . ALL VOTING AYE, .(�lAIRPERSON QOP�RS DECLARED THE A1�TION Q�itRIED U1�iN7M)U�� 4N by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Rasmussen, . that: (1) on or bef ore 5: 00 p. m. on Tuesda,y, January 26, 1988, Mr. Lundgren pr ov ide to the Executive Director of the Fridley eRA a letter of intent for financing with conditions which are satisfactory to the Executive Director; (2) on or before 5:00 p. m. � Tuesday, . January 26, 1988, Mr. -3- ,u•. • uu .1�� I: \ h C� �!:�a�1�i��.�'i7��Jii7:+1'j�+4�iJivi✓lSi�;�vee -��- - — L�dgren prwide to the F�ecutive Director evidenoe af any or all other financing which might be necessary in order to finance 100� of the anticipated cost o� the eonstruction of the project; (3) on or before 5:00 p.m o� Tuesday, . January 26, 1988, Mr. Lu�dgren provide to the Executive Director a substitute letter of creclit whi-ch would run f or an ac3ditiona]. period of between 60 and 90 days. � If these three it�ns are ac�mplished on or before 5:00 p.m on TuesdaY• January 26, 1988, the E�cec�tive Director will be directed not to act upon Mr. Lundgren's letter of credit. If Mr. Lundgren has not accomplished these three items, . then the Executive Director wi11 be directed to act upon Mr. Ltuidren's letter o� credit. Mr. Meyer stated that at this time he woutd like Mr. Robertson to give his reasons why Staff feels the letter of credit should be r�voked. Mr. Robertson stated the history of this proje�t on this piece of property goes back 4-5 years ago. At least two other developers have oome to the City and the HRA with a prani.sed develop�nent, . and then did not deliver. With one of those developers, . the HRA committed to purchase the building which was now the m�icipal liqu�r store. In both instanoes. . the HRA got both the property owners, . the tenants, . and the rieic�bors �rticularly involved, . either positively or rngatively► about the project. In both cases. . the proj ects did not happen. Based on experienoe, .they all agree there is a need for a potemial developer to put so�►e money up front to indicate the c3eveloper's seriousness and to avoid taking property owners, . tenants, . anc] neighbors through this prooess needlessly. Mr. Robertson stated Mr. Ltmdgren defaulted on the agreement with the City in August o� 1986. At that time, . the HRA could have called the letter of credit; and if they had, . the HRA would have accrued approximately $30,000 in interest sinoe then. In effect. . the HRA has aleac]y given Mr. Ltmdgren another 530,000. F'inally, he felt the HRA s and the City's reputation was going to be scrutinized by other develapers to see if the SRA is really serious about an indica.tion of commitment to the proj ect up f ront. Iie stated he would f eel very unoomforta.kal.e if they did not do this. Mr. Meyer stated he was very skeptical of the possibil ity of Mr. L�dgren being ahle to del iver a o�nuaitment of any kiryd by late January. His ao�nents were directed to what he vonsderecl to be the heart of the matter, .assuning the default will take place in accordance with the languages of the mation—that the HRA would then automatically revoke the letter aF credi� Mr. Meyer stated that in his opinion there was r� question but that the HRA had a legal right to this money. He wanted to talk about the subjective or the intangible part of the proposal. He stated Mr. Robertson had given an o�li.r�e aF the history of this particular site. Mr. L�dgren has been a true f riend of the purposes of the HRA regarding this property; far more so, .than anyane e1=�e who has ever attempted to develop this property. Mr. Lundgren has prepared plans and -4- i� :.�;1 �: ; �� /� �).v��1�� I,�y:.��; 44 ��I� �. I: 1. ►: '+ - -�=. specifications for vonstruction for the specifics of this particular property,.which probably would easily be worth several hundreds of thousands of dollaxs on the market, . not paid for by anyone but Mr. L�ndgren's group. He stated they have not seen any °real" construction plans or doaIInents from the Lake Pointe peogle. T4�ey seldom, . if ever, get any kind of construction document s f rom any of �he other c7evelq.�nerit.s they have had No one has bothered to give the kind of heavy financial commitment that Mr. Lundgren's group has given. �erefore, .Mr. L�dgren has put his mo�ey on the lir�e in terms of being a bonafide interested player on that property. Mr. iKeyer stated that, . in adc7ition, . in order to back up this heavy inves�trnent of huidreclS of thousands of dollars in working dra�aings, . Mr. Iamdgren has gone to the point of establishing a$200,000 letter of credit, .which tells the world even more so that he is deadly serious about the develognerit of this property as he proposecl it and as the HRA wishecll it to be developed. To hiin, . those were very strong indications that Mr. Lt�dgren has not been using the HRA or the City as perhaps other developers have on the same site. In the interim,.Mr. Meyer stated he realizecl that after Mr. Luzdgren defaulted on the agreement, . the HRA oould have pulled the letter of credi� Mr. Meyer stated he realized Mr. Ltndgren was protecting his own self interest also, . but at the same time, the fact that Mr. Ltmdgren has c�ome before the HRA month after month and has spent �believable amounts of time and mor�ey to try to get this projec:t cpi.ng and the fact that he has rig�rously and faithfully pursued trying to find someone in this very poor market, . has all been of great benef it to the HRA. At least they knaw one person has been fi�iting hard to get the area developed as the HRA wishes it to be developed. Other major players in the develoFenent g�ne have looked at the property and have evidently been less than impressed, . Y�ut Mr. Lta�dgren has stayed the oourse. Mr. Meyer statecl that f or those reasons, . he f el t it was inappr opr i ate for the HRA to clraw an this letter of credi� � the other hand, he did reooc�ize the fact that they do have a responsibil ity to the publ ic. Aere is $�0,000 wYiich was legally theirs, .and in a sense, .the puYal.i.c's. But, . he would f eel very aonf ident in expl aining to any member o£ the public who questioned him that, . yes, , the HRA had the legal right to this money,.but they did had done nothing to earn that money. They were treating Mr. L�dgren and his group the same as any manber o� the public would want to be treated—that Mr. I,uidgren was caught in a bind because of the falling market, . he has put his money where his mouth was with heavy dollars, . and he has been cau�t short by the exingencies of the manent. Mr. Meyer stated, . again, . Mr. Lundgren's conduct and his whole develc�mer►t stood in shining �ntrast to other developers. Mr. Meyer stated it would be nice to grarit Mr. Lundgren a categorial letter of e�.ension for three moriths or six months, . but tnless new facts oame to light, . in all honesty, he would still, . even at the end of the -5- : • ,.:;—�•�s.�� i?i �l:ul�i�l _ : �/W�,�.� 4�► 41�1?I� �: ►; �. !: >> ' '� th ree month or six morith time per ia3, . vate against call ing the letter o� credi� So, , he was not really suggesting they extend the letter of credit categorically. A+k. Rasaussen stated he �cierstood exactly what Mr. Meyer had said, . but he worried about the credibility o� a wntract. To say the gRP► or the Ci,t1, has rnt put any mor�ey into this project would be to bely the fact that they have been here oonsic7ering this letter and this project for quite awhile, . and Staff has oertainly s�ent a lot of time on it. The HRA and the City cief initely cb have an investme� in it, . along with Mr• I�.ndgren. Mr. Fasn�ssen stated he felt if they are going to make contracts and hire legal staff and pass resolutions that will be later void because o� h�snanitary reasons or whatever, . then he f elt they lose thei r credibil ity as a sitting body. 7�►en. . v�hat deal cannot be cancell ed? A1 so, • other developers will tak+e this as a preaedem and use it, .very ]u.stif iably. Ms. Schnabel stated she appreciated Mr. Meyer's oo�arnents, . k�eca�se he has obviously spent a lot of time thinking about this. She stated Mr. Robertson made a comment in his m�no dated January 8th about the possibility of reftnding a portion of Mr. L�dgren's letter of credit if he sucoeec� in securing financing for the projec�. She stated that if the letter of credit was cashec3 as outlined in the motion, . and Mr. I,�clgren is able to secure the financing and get things together, . but it goes beyonc3 the January 26th deadl ine, . and is, . say March 1, was it legally possihle to ref�md a p�rtion of that letter of credit back to Nir. Ltmdgren? What was Staff's position on this? Mr. N�wwman stated that was something that would be up to the HRA's discretion. It wo�.a ae�na a great deal upon what Mr. Lundgren presented to the HRA 60 or 90 days down the road. To be very candid, . the HRA had to real ize and reooc�ize that if they call Mr. Lundgr en' s letter of credit, . by doing so, . the impact may make it 1 iterally impossikale for Mr. L�dgren to proceed with the project. He did not think the HRA should be misleci that there was an easy way out. Mr. Rasmu.ssen stated he just felt the HRA hacl an obligation to honor a oontract. He felt the HRA has been very wnsiderate of Mr. LLmdgren- Mr. Meyer stated Mr. Na�ntissen cited the fact that the staff has spent a great deal o� time on this projec� and that, . theref ore, . was HRA money. Mr. Meyer stated he respectecl that opinion, . and yet, . in principle, . they have r�ever bothered to "chalk upp the staff expenses on any of the ather projects. �herefore, . he did not think it was fair that they surcharc,�: staff's time to this particular p�ojeck when they have not bothered to cb it before. As far as staff time, . the Lake Pointe costs are just beginning,.and there will be no aampensation for that Mr. iamdgren stated that Mr. Allen Rouse was at the meeting,.and he had some more iriformation he would like to present to the HRA at this time. He statec7 an ir�iivic�ual fram the Carnegi.e Et�ans group was supposed to be -6- �,�� . : �1� yi/� !i�v�Di�l 14::� � MH v��N �: ►: �. I; :� getting in touch with him by telephone the next day to arrange for transp�rtation in order to set this project up. Mr. Lundgren stated this was enwuraging news, . Y�ut, . on the hanal, , the time was very shor� Mr. Lt�dgren stated Mr. Newman was p�obably not inwrrect in saying that if the HRA ca11s his letter of credit, .his ability to �ntinue with the proj ect would probahl.y be 1 imited or terminated. . Mr. Lundgren stated that if the HRA could get a new letter af credit for 90 days, . it might give the HRA time enough to get this particular deal squared away and closed. Mr. Newinan had also suggested, . and correctly so, , that there are a ntIInber of elenents involved in this. There were all kir� of legal things that had to happen, . and these all take time. Mr. Limdgren thanked Mr. Meyer for his good oonune.nts. I�e stated he did not disagree with Mr. Rasmussen's aa�nents either. He stated the eRA has been fair �d patient with him through all this, . and the HRA hacl to do what they felt was best. Mr. Meyer �ated Mr. Rasmussen had a good point regarding the HRA's credibility as an agency that means what it says wY�en it has a ooritract,. and he agreed that would be so if they had exhibited a reason to draw on the $200,000, such as the HRA being hurt in some fashion. An example would be if they had turned away prospective developer (s ) or if they had incurred some extraordinary expenses or something of that nature. That would tip their hancls to all ather developers that the HRA was an easy mark, . or worse. &it, . he did not think that was the case. In 1 ine with his oonenents regarding the staff time, , etc. , he really did not know and did not understand haw the HRA or the City has been hurt. The reason for the letter � credit,.as he understood it,.and its issuance in the first plaoe as a requiremem was to ensure that the HRA and the City would not be hur� If they hac7 been hurt, . and they still c]raw on the letter of credit, . then he thought it was right for the HRA to ask thenselves: By drawing on the letter of credit, . for which they have done nothing to earn that money,.were they not destroying their credibility as a responsible Authority to other developers, . when other developers see the HRA using their p�wer to c7raw an a letter of credit when there is no demonstrable way in which they have been hurt? That was the way they oouid lose credibility 3n the alevelognent ooqmmmity. P9r. Newman �tated this was a very diffiwlt decision to make. �ie HRA's involveaent on this projec� probahly began about a year before Mr. Meyer came on the orn�nission. �iere had been a n�mnber of publ ic hearings, . soil borings were dor�e, . and zoning requests and setback reqt�sts were prooessed by the City. Before this, . ariother development contract was eriterecl irtto with Mr. Ltuidgren. It was drafted by Mr. 0'Meara. Miller & Schroecier were involved. Bonds were sold. �e point o� this was that the HRA entered inko a oo�runitment with Mr. Lt,mdgren. Because of that, . it was impossible for anyone on staff to say they had given up vertain develo�ment opportimities, .because of the commitment to Mr. Lundgren. They did not know what those opportunities were. They were under oontract with Mr. L�mdgren; and because they wiere under contract, . they -7- :,.�_ �: ; �� l� ,�J:�i�l�� . IW•.!�; 4M vi�a�w ��, l: �.!: ;� c3id not talk to any o�ther developers- The Property was pulled off the market, . and it was dif f icul t to say ther e wer e no damage s suf f er ed, . because they did not l�o�v. Mr. Meyer stated he rea�cpzized that was a p�ssibility; but, . of course, . there was tyo evidence to prwe that was the case. Mr. Com�ners stated there were two sicles to this, . as there were to any question. He felt everyone was sinoere about how they looked at this and the way they feel about it. Mr. Meyer had spoken very well on behalf of Mr. L�dgren. • ana it was obvious this was a very diff icult decision for all the HRA menbers to make at this time. He stated the only thing he would disagree with was that he was not sure it was appropriate to say that the HRA has had to have suffered or been hurt in orc3er to v�lleck on the letter of credit. The letter of credit was required by Mr. Lu�dgren to shaw his good faith that he was iritending tv go forward with the project, .because they had defaults on prior projects, . and they va�re taking the project o�f the market. Otherwise, . Mr. L�mdgren has faithf ully aosne to every meetin9 and has kept the iiRA informed as to the status of he project; but, .uifort�ately, .he has not been able to put the project together. � the other side, . the HRA has refrained fram exercising its rights for quite some time. It was a di.ff icult decision but one they have to malce. Ms. Schnabel stated Mr. Lundgren has been a businessman for quite a number of years, . and she was sure he was f ully aware of all the raanifications of the letter of credit when he signed it. It was a standard busir�ss procedure in many areas,.and she did think that everyorie who sic�s o�ntracts and �derstands then realizes that at some poirit that aontract might be called or miqht cease for some reason or another. Because the SRA has oontinually extended the time on the letter o� credit, . she dic] not feel that the HRA was acting harshly by making the mation they had made--giving Mr. Ltimdgren the additional tune and the additional opportunity, . even to come up with an additional letter of credit, . if he chooses another extension. She thought they have, . in effect, . given Mr. Ltmdgren more time; they are just doing it i.n a different method because they have a business contract which he willingly sic�ed and the HRA willingly sic�ed at orbe time. kut now that aontract is up. Mr. L�dgren stated he did not disagree with either Mr. Commers or Ms. Schnabel. iie would oertainly expect the HRA to act in whatever way theY have to. � the other hand, . it was the HRA's 9elf interest to get that develop�nent done in the right way. It might be in the HRA's best interest to go along with him for a couple more months. That was the c7ecision the HRA was going to have to make. If the letter af credit was called, . and he caruiot make the January 26th deadli.ne. , then the HRA will have to find someone els�e to do the project. There might be someorbe more capahle than he or more willi.ng than he, . or there might not be anyone. They have ?�een talking all along about a quality project, . an upscale project fran what most people think belongs in Frid]-eY• He felt his project was what was wanted there ancl what should be there. -8- �,�. �, ; �� ,�� ),�I�1�� J9:,��; 4y ��al �: l: �. : .� Mr. Meyer stated that as far as his view c� wntracts, . in the business oo�un�ity, . as many contracts are broken as are enf orced down to the letter. So, . he was r�t oonoerr�ed that they have an ironclad contract that can �ver be changed. Mr. Rasnussen stated he felt they have given Mr. LLmdgren many, many chanoes on this project, . and Mr. Lundgren has presented the HRA with many, . many future deals; therefore, . the HRA has not acted arbitrarily with him �ey have tolc7 him many times that Ftiebruary 1, 1988, was the f ir�al dead]. i.ne. rtr. Pribyl stated that back when this �ojec:t first came � line, . bonds were sold (Dec. 28, 1985) in conjunction with this project and capitalizec] interest was incluclec3 in the bond prooeec� to carry it into a point in time in which the taxes generated on that property would carry the 3ebt servioe. Within the next year or two, . that value must be added to that property to carry the debt service, . otherwise it will start wsting the HRA moryey. �fiat was something for the HRA to keep in mind as far as f�ure �sts associated with the property. UPON A VOICE VOTE, . Q�I�A�RS, . S�TNABII,, . RASMTSSEN V�ING AYE, . ME3�I2 VOP]NG NAY. • CHAIIt.PERSCN Q�MI�RS I�Q,ARID TiiE NDTION Q�RRIED BY A VOl'E OF 3-1. �� . n �; *- • � • y.►: �;c+ �,;�� ; � � • � ; ,� ;.� �!Y `_• �1�, t��a�� :. Mr. Robertson stated that at the last HRA meetirig, . the HRA instructed Staff to meet with representatives f rom Subterranean Engineering to discuss the questions raised at the November and December meetings. Staff has done that, . and based on Mark Burch's discussion with Mr. luttindess, . the rea�m¢nendation was that those aharges were legitimate and should be �id. Fie stated he had asked Mr. Mindess to be at the meetng in case the HRA had any question�. Mr. Meyer stated his aonoern was satisfied by the fact that this had been discussed mutually between City Staff and a Subterranean representative. Mr. �nmers stated he hoped Mr. Mincless coulcl understand the HRA's oonoern about these oosts and sa�ne a� the things that took plaoe, . but as long as Staff and the Subterranean representative have discussed it, . he would entertain a mati� to apprave Change Order Na 2. M�7.4�T BY Ms. Schnabel, sewnded by Mr. Meyer, . to approve Change Order Na 2 an Lake Pointe soil engir�eering in the anoimt of $3,202.59. UPON A VOICE VO!'E, . ALL VOTING AYE, . C�iAIRPERSON �NII�RS DECLARID THE P'DTION C�RR]ED UI+Y�TII►�J3�x •�. � _;._ •� � :�� •�� : �� •� ;.�i� ,�_• � _ ��:. •� h�� . ' i� 1 � : �! �� +4 Mr. Robertson stated this was far the wall hlocks that were ordered by -9- .-'" :��. �: � �� . �J:u��l�� _ 14: �l; 4y via��/ �. ►: �. ; >> the o�mractor based on an estimate of hoow many blocks were needed. When the oontractor was in the f ield and it became appare.nt as the wall was being constructec] that more blocks were ryeecied, .while the v�ntractor was in the field, .Mr. Robertson authorized those additiona]. wall blocks so the wall oould be oompleted as specif ied. Ae stated he had taken that responsibil ity at the ti.me in order to save soane money. . �Q�q� by Ms. Schnabel, . seoonded by Mr. Meyer, . to approve Change Order Na 4 in the amoimt of �880. UPON A VOI� VOiE, . ALL VOTING AYE, . QiAIRPERSON �MMERS DEQ,ARED THE M�TION C�,RRIED UI�NIlaW3,Y. ��. ��al;z �� ,`.�_.� �� H\': �. � � �� •; ��; ! �I; 1� _ � C1;: Mr. Conmers stated that as has been c�stanary for the past few years, . they have desic,�ated Fridley State Bank as the official c'�pository for the F'ridley �tA. He ooritinued to ask the same question: Why do they wntinue to use Fridley State Bank all the time when the Bank has not been 000perative with the HRA or the City � Fridley? Mr. Pribyl stated the HRA has the option riot to apprwe this resolution, . and they oould look for another souroe of banking services. From his perspective, . it has allowecl a souroe of vonvenienae f or the city staf f just for the process of checking, . and that was really the only involvenent they had with Fric�.ey State Bank. As far as irivestments, . the HRA has nothing there. It was up to the HRA as to whether they wanted to apprave this resolution or not, . but it would prwide the staff with a more oomplicated prooess for dep�siting the checks. Also, . there was not a lot o� choioes as far as banking services within the City. There were a n�anber �' banking facilities just outside the city limits. Mr. Pribyl stated he was thinking about attempting to write an RFP regarcling banking services to see what the market has out there for other banking servioes. Ae stated he would have that report to the HRA before Jtne 30, 1988. Mr. �►ers stated a written financial policy would be in everyone's best interest. Iie statec3 they ha�ve discussed this before, and he would like to see some priority gi.ven to i� Ms. Schnabel stated the HRA coul d, . in additi on to appr ov ing the resoluki�..pass another motion clirecting staff to p�avic7e the HRA with an analysis of alternate banking servioes so that before the next year's resolution comes up, . they will have that informaton and can make a decisian at that time. Mr. C7o�mners stated that was a good suggestion. � By Ms. SGhnabel, . seoonded by Mr. Meyer, . to approve Resolution No. 1- 1988, a Resolution Desiglating Official Depositories for the Fridley -10- I / � �� . : �� i�� J;v��+ . J�',� � • : 4y ��M \. ��•!:•�•�:��4�=�1•j� 8ousing & RedevelognerYt Authority. UPON A VOI� VOTE, . ALL VOTING AYE, . C.fiAIRpERSpN apNII�+�RS DEQ,ARED THE PiJTION (��,RRIED UI�TIlKnT3,� �4�T BY Ms. Schnabel, . sewnded by Mr. Ras�mussen, . that wit,�iin and no later than the third quarter of the coming f iscal year, . the HRA be pravided with an analysis of banking servioes and a financial investmer►t policy so that the HRA is able to make a decision regarding bank depositories before the resolution aomes up again next year. UP(�T A VOI� VOIE, . ALL VOTING AYE, , QiAIRpERSON C70NIMERS DEQ,ARED THE NDTION C�iIiRIr;D UI�ItTIlK)Ug,Y. �� : _ �� a��s. • � • � ��;�,iui�1��! : • � a� ; �� • H•,�� a� ,s _, .1� � ��.��: �� « • �, �., «; �a�, ;,� : � Mr• Robertson stated the reason for the reoo�unendation that the electric util ities be tmdergro�nded was because the Ric�e Gieek Road proj ect was being f inal ized ric�t rrow for bidc3ing and spring construction. When it came to light that these utilities were there and could be put uidergrotmd, . Staff felt r�ow was the appropriate time to do it since the area is going to be all dug up. .�I.41Y bY Mr• Rasnussen, . sewnded by Mr. Meyer, , to apprwe Resolution Na i�A 7- 1987, a Resolukion Authorizing Imp,rweaerit Expenditures for Projects within the Tax Increne.nt District for Construction in 1988. UPON A VOI� VO.rE, . ALL V�ING AYE, . QiAIRPERSON 001�'RdERS DEC�,ARED THE N�TION (�RRIED UIVA1�T71�XxJ3,7� 6. c�� rMS (�70i—?7081: M�,IQN bY P'ir• l�snussen, . sewnded by Ms. Schnabel, , to apprwe the check register as presented. UPOTT A VOICE VOIE, . ALL VOTING AYE, . QiAIRPERSON �Mt�RS DEQ,ARED TgE NDTION Q�RR�D UNANIl�W3,Y. �ay.ial� •� �i , l�ir. Robertson stated that in the audience was Mr. Pat Pelstring, . Vice Presiderit of B�iness Develo�.anent Services, . one of two organizations that has sukxnitted proposals to the City to market the property cliscussed in agenda itea no. 1 on the southwest corner of Mississippi and University. 1Kr• Irasmussen asked Mr. Pelstring i.f he had any plans for this area. Mr. F�lstring stated that at this stage,.he naw reo�c,�ized where the HRA was as far as negotiations with Mr. Ltmdgren, . and he felt it would be irsappropriate at this time to get ulto a lengthy cliscussion on how they -11- ; • �. ; a�� ►/� !):�� IY::�.; 44 vi y} �, /: �. !> ;� � � would approach the project. His reason for wming to the meeting was to gain a better sense of the status of the current project and the relationships that e3ci.st there. Mr. Felstring stated he was not trying to represent himself as the c3eveloper. His firm was presently located in Fridley, • although they would soon be moving their offices to Coon Rapids. They were specifically m�icigal professional aonsultants, . private bu'siness and finanoe business, .and work on a day-to-day basis with major 3evelopers. At this stage► .they 1�ave had an op�pc>rtLmity to review the property in a clevelogxnent sense. . r� some of their own numbers, . and make some est,�mates on what they think can be done• If the HRA had any interest in pursuing this in the future, . he would be happy to share those ideas with thea. Mr. Commers asked how old the company was and who were the other principles or parties that are associated with him. Mr. Pelstring stated the oo�npany �ras five years old. Ais partners were Michael Mulrooney, , former Director of Bt�iness DevelognerYt for the State of Minnesota� • and Ren Nielsen, .who was the Re9iona]- Mana9er for Glacier Park Cwnpany. He stated theY ha�e a five person staff. He stated his background was actually in banking,.and most recently Development Director for the City o� Coon Rapids Pzior to forming his own busir�ss f ive years ag�. �l��; v : • � 44�v a. Lake Pointe Develognent Mr. Rvbertson stated that oonoerning the Lake Poirrte developmerit. • it was tax time; and he would remind the HRA that the Development Agrec�nent specif ied that the developer woulc] pay the taxes on the property or make payment in lieu of taxes if the HRA was holding property. The City was naw reassessing the property based on the imprwenents dane. He was letting the HRA know that although the project has been delayed, .they are proaeeding, . subject to approval by Mr. Haik, . to to take the Johnson parcel off exemption status, . treat it as part o� the c7evelopnent► . and tax the entire parcel on the s�ae basis that is used f or the rest o�f the City Mr. Newman stated the reason this was being brought to the HRA's attention was beca�se the developer has paid the taxes up to this date. If for some reason he would decide not to do so, . the HRA would have to make those tax PaYments. Mr. Go3mners stated that if the devel oper f ail s to pay the taxe s, . that would be another �ndition of defaul� Mr. Newman stated that was oorrect. h University Avenu�e Gorricbr -12- �-=� ��S J ' �i�. ,. 1'��'� ��V� +� /7i��11 TT V�'�� f.ii�'�.`±•/�`1��l4i=�'jZ-� Mr. Iiobertson stated that included in the "Information Packet" was some background information on the University Avenue Corridor provess. He stated they expect to come to the HRA with a package for reooanmendations for action at the February HRA meeting. He wanted to alert the HRA to ane itea the staff was proceeding with. He had included some cross sections of lighting treat�n�nts. The reason he was bringing thsn to the HRA's attention was because in Nwember they talked about the qlabe_type light in c�onj�ction with the deoorative lic,�ting for oomnercial frontage roads. They want to actually test this a�noept � Rive Cre�g R�d along the Moore Lake C�m►ons projec�. 7fiey are comparing costs between the two globe gooseneck-�type fixtures versus a three globe straight-arm type of ligh� The staff will pick o�e to try out on the Rice Creek Road project oo�nmercial frontage; and depending on how they like the looks of it, , they will adopt it for the University Avenue Corridor. Mr. Robertson also included was ir�formatioa� on staff's analysis of the prairie flowers and prairie grass recommendations by ��on'Aschmann. Esse�ially, .the staff's oonclusion to date was concerned with the fact that the prairie flower/prairie grass alternative takes 2-3 years to establ ish itself bef ore they can really evaluate the resulting appearanoe. Ck� the other hand, . they have all these other hard-type improve�nents they want to proceed Wi'th as Quickly as possible for those two test sections. Staff recommends that the HRA then do a comparison on a signif icant stretch of the Corridor with these prairie flowers and prairie grass, . with the �derstanding that it is not going to look 1 ike its final state for 2-3 years. They will not commit to the entire Corridor imtil they evaluate the test segne�ts. 7�ie rest af it they will defer except to mav the existing turf more frequently, .�t not spenc3 money on sodding or new seeding until they eval uate the prairie grass sec�nent, NLs. Schnabel stated area were mowed and or something to gre� it has been. she f elt everyane woul d cle�ar�ed up better, .maybe n it up. Ar�ything is an be happy if the grass gi.ven some fertil izer improvesnent over what Ms. Schnabel stated she had read an article recently in the Minneapol is/S`t. Paut magaz ine which f eatured Ms. Betty Meah f ram Fridley talking about winter plantings. Ms. Schnabel stated Ms. Mech is very well known and well respected in the comm�ity and might be a good resouroe person for the HRA regarding what is being pl ann�eal f or gl antings. 1�'. Co�nners stated that was a very good suggestion. He agreecl that Ms. Mech was very well known and would be an excellent resource person. _� �.l;�ul �� Chairperson �ners declared the January 14, 1988, Aousing & Redevelopnent -13- ;t�. �. ;�:�� l� !lavi �� 4�:��; My _�i�+�y �,: l: �..: ;+ Authority meetn9 aa7aurred at 9:05 p� m Respectfully suhnitted. • Lynne Saba Reoording Secretary . -,�'9r n u CI"_'�' OF FRIDLEY PARKS A1�ID RF]CREATION COi`�`1ISSIOrI P�ETING FEB�TAi� l, 1988 c� To o��.: Chairpersoaz KQndrick called the Feb. 1, 1988, Parks & Recreation Co�ission meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. ROLL CALL: Members Present: David Kondrick, P7ary Schreiner, Dan Allen, Jahn Gargaro (left meeting at 7:35 p.m.) Members Absent: A1 Gabel, Dick Young Others Present: JacJc Kirk, Director of Recreation & Natural P,esources John Flora, Director of Public Works 1�PPROVAL OF DDCII�ER 7, 1987, PARKS & RE)C.RFATION COPY4ISSION MINCT�ES; It was decided that the approval of the Dec. 7, 1987, mi.nutes w�uld be held over until the t�larch meeting. APPP,C7VAL OF AGII�DA: The follawing items were added to the agenda under "Staff Report": D. Stevenson PTSO Request E. Update on Aids Policy The following item was added to the agenda under "New Business": G. Briardale Park Mr. Kondrick stated that since Mr. Gargaro would have to leave the meeting in about one-half hour, they should attend to the "New Business" first as there were so�*�e items that required actian by the Comni.ssion �bers. t�i0r!'ION by I�1r. Gargaro, seconded by r7s. Schreiner, to approve the agenda as amended. UPON A VOICE VOTE, AL�L VOTING AYE, CHAIRPIIZ.SON KOI�IDRICK DDCLARID TI-iE 2�OTION C,ARP,IID UNI�NINIOUSLY. PARK.S & RF�CREATION CCIf'A'IISSIOPi P�ErING, FEBRUARY 1, 1988 PAC� 2 1. NEW BLTSINESS: a. Softball Tourn�nt Requests...Fridley Jaycees D4r. Kirk stated they had two r�equests fro�n the Fridley Jaycees--one tournairent during 49'er Days, June 17-18, and one State P4innesota Recreation & Park Associatian tournament, a men's and women's division, on August 5-6-7. Dsr. Kirk stated Staff would reoo�mend approval of both these tournaments. MOTION by N'�. Allen, seconded by Ms. Schreiner, to approve the tw�o tournaments as requested by the Fridley Jaycees for June 17-18, 1988, and Aug. 5-6-7, 1988. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALS� VdI'ING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KOI�IDRICK DF]CLA� THE NIOTION CARR� UNANIl`7W�Y. b. S�.ucmit Square Park - lighted skating area request Mr.Kirk stated he had a request frosn Councilire.riber Fitzpatrick and one or r,bre of his constituents that tY�e City look at lighting the general skating area at Su�ut Square Park. This park was located off Capitol Street a�d Horizon Drive, about one block off P7ain Street. There used to be a supervised waxming house facility at Burlington Northern Park, �000 Main Street N.E., whici� has not been used mu�z at all. �ounci]me.�nber Fitzpatrick stated there were a nimiber of people in the area who would like to see a lighted skatin� a��-ea. Zhe skating area at Slurni� �quare has nat been li t f�or about ten years . Psr. Kondrick stated he had no objection to the Comtussion loo)cing into the possibility of lighting that skating area. He stated this was a situation where the school census infonnation they had recently cc�iled would come in handy in showing them haa many children were in the area, the Ghildren's ages, etc. The Conmissioners agreed this was scmething they should look at with the capital outlay requests for next year's budget. c. School District #16 Letter & Request Mr. Kirk stated the City has receiv�ed a request from Sc,�ool District 16 to jointly purchase a house near P7oodcrest Elementary School. This wauld be a 50/50 type of arrangement with the City. PZr. Kirk stated this ��+; cular ha�v�mer was upset that the new play- ground equipment the City helped purchase and install at Woodcrest was right outside his backyard. Since it was new equipment, the children are using it,�d it has created a noise prablem and a conoern for this hareowner. PARKS & RDCREATION CONA'lISSION T'IEErING, F'F�RUARY 1, 1988 PAGE 3 Mr. Kirk stated the School Board was loaking at different options. One might be m�ving the playground equipment which was not too feasible, expense-wise or location-wise. Another optian was to explore with the City the possibility of jointly purchasing the property and making a larger playground area. Dr. Huber pursued that option by writing a letter to the City, and it was now before the Cannissian for the Commission's consideration. Mr. Kirk stated he had expressed to Dr. Hiaber that it would not enhance the City's park and recreation system by spending around $40,000- $50,000 to purchase one piece of property. His suggestion to Dr. Huber was to look at the option of a privacy fence and/or some type of shrubbery or plantings. That was also the Staff's rec�ndation to the Ca�u.ssion. P1r. Kondrick stated he would agree with Psr. Kirk. He could not justify that kind of expenditure. E�en if they could get that )cind of money, he would rather see it spent on sarething else in the park system. bir. Gargaro stated he certainly felt sorry for the property aaner; hvw�ever, it was not the City of Fridley's fault that his house was there. Wood- crest Elementary School has been in that location for a lot of years. D1r. Kirk stated the City really had no in�t into where the new playground equipment was to be placed, but it was put in about the saire location as the old equipment which was really the best location for it. The result was that new equipment draws the children, and so it became a prablem. MO2'IOrI by Mr. Gargaro, seconded by Mr. Allen, to receive the letter fram Dr. Chris Huber, S�.iperintendent of Schools for District #16, dated Jan. 5, 1988. UPON A VOICE VO'I'E, ALL VOTIl`:G AYE, CHI�IRPE.TLSON K01�IDRICR DDCLAR�� TT.-lE MO'I'ION CARRIID UNANIP'iOUSLY • D'i0►I'ION by Mr . Gargaro, seconded by l�tis . Schreiner, to approve the reoo�nenc7ation made by Mr. Kirk in a metro to Nasim Qureshi dated Jan. 15, 1988, that they not expend any city funds for the joint purchase of the 13eYun residence by Woodcrest Elementary School. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERS�T KOI�IDRICK DDCLARID THE MO►I'ION CARRIID UIQl1NIM0USLY. Mr. Kirk stated that after he gave his recara�ndation, he had spoken to Dr. Huber, and there nvw seemed to be scme interest on the part of the hor.iec�,mer for a privacy fence. Dr. Huber stated he would pursue that with r7r. Behm. DZr. Kirk had told Dr. Huber about the City's policy which was to share the cost of a chain link fence witl: haneowners wh�e property bordered a park. 1 II PARKS & RDCREATION CCt7NlISSION D�TING, FEBP�JARY l, 1988 d. Com�nns Park - parking areas PAGE 4 Mr. Kirk stated the City had a reguest in Noveqnber 1987 from a partici- pant in a program to enlarge the parking area by the terinis courts and baseball fields at Coa�m�ns Park. Staff looked at the situation and felt it could be a situation where participants just do not knaw where all the available parl:ing is at C�rons Park. So, Staff was not reco�rend- ing any additional parking at Ccc►arnns Park, but they have put together a map of the parking areas. They are going to send this r_ap to the FYSA so that a�py can be sent t�o visiting tea�. I�'�r. Flara`s staff will mzke a sign to put up by the parkim lot in question �ust to sha� peaple where additional parking is located. Mr. Kirk stated another thing to note was that Comrons Park used to be the City's high use athletic area, and they had the same amount of park- ing then that they have now. The high use athletic area is now the Ca�nunity ParY.. Ca;mons was still used, but not to the extent it was before. In looking at that, they felt that since there was adequate parking before, there was certainly enauc� nvw. Also, because the narrvw access road betw�een the parking lots by the water taaer does create a problem when cars park along the curb, "no parking" signs have been posted along the access road to help prevent a congestion prablem. P'iOirION by Mr. Allen, seconded by rir. Gargaro, to concur with the action taken by Staff regarding the parking at Cormnns Park. UPON A VOICE VO►I'E, ALL �ING AYE, CHAIRP�'T2SON KONDP,ICK D�7CLA� THE NK)TION CAF�2IID UN�dIl`xXJSLY. Mr. Kirk stated he would send a letter to Mr. Stuart P•Zitchell telling him that his concerns were presented to the Parks & Recreation Comni_ssion on Feb., and that the Coc�nission concurred with Staff's recacmendation as outlined in P�: Kirk's letter to D9r. Mitchell dated Jan. 8, 1988. A copy of this letter would also be sent to r7ayor Nee. e. S�mmer Softball League Fees Mr. Kirk stated they will be having a Managers' meeting in Marc�, and he would like approval by the Commission on the s�rer softball league fees. Staff was reoanmending the follvwing fee dzanges : 1. � 3. State Registered Leagues F'im League (mPn's and women' s tean� ) N�n's Major Divisicn 1987 $315 $285 $340 1988 (proposed) $325 $295 $360 Mr. Kandrick stated these fees reflected about a 3-6� increase fran last year. PAFZKS & REG'f2FATION O�NIl�2ISSION NFE,TING, F'�RLIARY 1, 1988 PAC£ 5 M7I�.[�V by Mr. Gargaro, secazded by Mr. Allen, to approve the follaa- ing os ftball league fees for 1988: 1. State Registered Ieagues - $325 2. F'� League - $295 3. Men's Major Divisicn - $360 � t�t A VOICE W'I�, ALL VbTIlVG AYE, C�i�TRPERSC7rT KONDRIQC I�Q�ARED �-IEE N1U►�ICN CARRIID LNANIMO[SLY. f. Socoer 'Iburnament Request - Larry Rundle (�`ridley VFW) Mr. Kirk stated they have a request frccn the Fridley VFW regarding running a state socoer tournament in F'ridley on July 2-3. He had gotten a phone call frcan Mr. RLmdle the beginning of January; and, apparently, at that time N�. Rundle had already bid on the tournament prior to contacting anyone at the City about what fields might be available and where the tournament o�uld be nm. N�. Rlmdle wanted tn have the tournament at the Ca�nmity Park and had bid on the tourna- ment ass�ning there were six fields at the O�r,�rnmity Park. N:r. Kirk stated there are not six soc.•cer fields at the Qanm�ity Park. Mr. Kirk stated the City already run.s a soccer program at Comrons Park where they have four fields. If this request was approved, it would m�ke sense to have the tournament where there are already faur soccer fields. �en, they oould put another field in the Middle School foat- ball field and �e irore in one of the CAmrons Park baseball fields. Mr. Kirk stated the taurnament would involve sane Public Works e�loyees c�etting a oo�le of additional fields prepared and putting � so��e kind of fencing along 7th Street t�o prevent the balls fran rolling out into the street fran Field #3; otheiwise, the City would not have a lot of additional ux�rk for that weekend. Mr. Kirk stated the VFW would be selling ooncessions. The one o�ncern was that the City has reiroved a lot of the high use activity and tourna- ments out of Ca�r�ns Park; hawever, this would be over the Fourth of July weekend, and he really did not see another plaoe where they oould accomrodate that many soccer fields in one locatiori. Mr. Gargaro sta.ted he did not think it w�ould be too much of a problem wer the Fburth of July weekend when a lot of people go out of tc�m. Mr. Kondrick stated that i.n N�. R�mdle's letter dated Jan. 29, he had outlined some responsibilities for the Parks & Recreation Department. He asked Nh�. Kirk if there were any prable� with those responsibilities. Mr. Kirk stat�ed one respoa�sibility the City would not be able to provide was "to provide emergency medical personnel, i.e., paramedic team". Mr. l�undle will have to work that out with either the Fire Departm�nt or Lhity Hospital, so that would have to be the VFW's responsibility. NiS. Sc�reiner asked if there would be any additional oosts other than preparing the two additional fields. If there are additiorial costs l , PARK.S & 1�CREATION 0.'�SSION MEI'ING, FEBRLg1RY 1, 1988 PAC� 6 inwlved, then the VFW must pay for those additional oosts. Mr. Kirk stated that fran Staff's stanc�oint, this would be treated similar tn the renting of the Q�nummity Park for a tourname�zt, so there would be a$600 rental fee. �ey feel the $600 rental fee wc�uld caver the �ost of preparing the fields. Hvwever, if there are additional oosts such as bringing in extra d�npsters, extra Satellites, or any other extra oosts autside of preparing the fields, those costs w�ould be billed to the VFW. M7I'ICN by Mr. Gargaro, seccr�ded by Ms. Schreiner, to approve the use of the socoer fields at CaYatnns Park for a soccer tournament on July 2-3, 1988, as requested by the �idley VFW, with the follaaing stipulations : 1. Eme�ency medical personnel, i.e., paramedic team to be pravided by the �idley VFW, not the City of Fridley. 2. �e Fridley VFW will be respansible for any additional casts aver and above the $600 rental fee. LPON A VOICE VO'I�, ALL VdPING AYE, Q-iAIRPF�2SON KC�TDRIQZ DEC�ARED ZHE NDTION CAF2FtIED tNA��IINi�i]SLY . (Mr. Gargaro left the meeting at 7:35 p.m. 'Ihere was no longer a quortun. ) g. Briardale Park Nh�. Allen stated 3riardale Park was in his neighborhood. He stated there are many dzildren in this area, and there aremany children who have been asking if a hockey rink oould be put in the park. He stated he had disc�sed this with Staff, and Staff was checking into the feasibility of a hockey ri.nk in that park. If it is possible, then they can cansider this request when they review the ice rinks and hockey rinks later in the year. 1. STAFF REPORT: a. Winter Program Update Mr. Kirk stated the winter program was going along quite well. �ey have rim into a few prablems with the o�ld weather; some skating lessons had � be cancelled and resc�eduled. He stated the fitness progra� rem�in very popular. N�. Kirk statred there were two things he would like to call to the O��nission's attention: (1) Springbrook's annual GroLmdhog Day festival on Sunday, Feb. 7, 1988, fran 1-4 p.m. called "Springbrook Winter C7itter Carnival" (2) Servioe C1ub Oly�ics on Feb. 21 fran 12-4 p.m. hosted by the City for the Lions, Jaycees, l�tary Club, Chamber of Camierce, and other servioe organizations that work closely � PARK.S & REQ2EATION O�iMLSSION MEETING, FEBRL�RY l, 1988 PAC� 7 with the City in sperosoring different events throughout the year. �is was a way of thanking the sezvice organi zations for helping the City with progra�ni.ng. Mr. Kirk stated the Ck�tunissioners were welaoqne to attend �oth of these events. b. Springbrook Ponding Project Mr. Kirk stated that beginning in early January, Ga�n Brothers started working on the pcanding project at Springbrook. Five of the six ponding areas are conplete, and they are wr�rking on the water cor:trol structures. They have taken out the old boarc�aalk, and there will be a new floating boa�iwalk and bridge system put in. He stated the project was on schedule and should be o��leted by P,pril at t�e latest. hope- fu]1y, they will have some kind of grand c�ening this spring upon oom- pletice� of the project. c. Nbore Lake Parkway/Develc�nent Plans Mr. Flora stated that because of tl�e anticipated traffic that would be generated fran the I�ke Pointe Developmet�t or some other develogrent rn the old 100 Ztain site, the City had oame up with the a�ncept of_ improving Highway 65 and pra�riding new signalization at the intersection of Hic�way 65/Central Avenue. Because of the new signalization, they had to do sa�►e i�rovements on Central Avenue in order to get the proper ali�nt and the ntmUer of lanes they need to deal with the tra�fic they are anticipating. Mr. Flora stated that at the same time, they t�ook the University Avenue Corridor plan (intersection i�rovements, lic�ting, landscaping, media treatments, etc.) and added it to the intersectian and exFanc�ed the voncept with Irediallsr aI7d. Lightillg scheme along Central Avenue to l�oe Creek Road. Mr. Flora stated that froqn a study done ai the intersection of Highway 65 and Central Avenue several years ago, they found they had a large ntm�ber of cars fran �an and Nledtronics using that intersec tion. Zhey projected with the develo�anent in NEw Brighton, the addi- tional development in Spring Lake Park, there would be an increasing n�unber of vehicles oaning c3owri to that intersection. Zhis was a ooncern because: (1) the people alorig Central Avenue do not like all these cars: and (2) carbon m�noxide was bec�aming an environr.�ental aspect. 'Ihey looked at a plan of diverting iraffic fra;� C'2ntral Avenue �to R�.ce C�eek Rpad tA Highway 65. Mr. Flora stated Brody & Associates has purchased the Salit�ern�an prc7perty to include the Shorewood Plaza Shopping Center and the S�ars ��-� building. Brody & Associates will be putting in a swim & fitness club, 50,000 sq. ft. of vo�m�ercial/retail and offioe, all tied .�• together architecturally, to be extenc�ed into the ShorEwood Plaza '� Shopping C�nter area with new facacle and signage. Part of it will extend i.nto the Sears property area. Zhis whole area will be renamed the "Nbore Iake Caturons" shopping area. �'� PARKS & RECRFATICIN CCINIl�LSSION P'EETING, FEBRt�RY l, 1988 PAC� 8 Mr. Flora stated that with the diversion of vehicles to Highway 65 cn Rice Creek Road, they will be upgrading Rice CYe�lc Road in orc�er to pravide for a snnoth flvw of traffic fro�► the rr�rth t6 make a nioe tmobstructed passage to Highway 65. Associated with that and the Lhiversity Avenue �rridor �ntinuation of the lighted theme along Oentral Avenue, they have expanded that into Rice Creek R�ad with medians, red brick, lanclscaping, and Lighting. Mr. Flora stated the City had a series of ineetings with the Central Avenue neigh;�orhooa, because of a me6ian `hey were proposing for Oentral Ave�zue. The reasan for the median was because the center line at the Hig�way 65 intersectiori was off oenter, they want to protect the left turn mwes and the n�rber of vehicles on Oentral Aven�e, and because of the timing sequenoe for the sic�nal, wi';h priority qiven to Iiiqhway 65 traffic. Mr. Flora stated that d�ing the series of ineetings, they had a lot of discussion on what medians are, haw they are c�ealt with, and what the effects are. 'Ihe results were that the people alcng C�ntral Avenue felt there were too many cars on Oentral Avenue. Zhey felt there was a problem with backing out onto Central Avenue across two lanes of traffic and thai going south. �here was some discussion about parking, the "no parking" signs on their side of the street, and the use of the road. Mr. Flora stated that in order to enoourage the traffic to turn onto Rice Creek Road fran Qentral Avenue, they have to narrvw the inter- seciton at Rice C�eek Road and Ce�ral Avenue, and make it appear less inviting to oontinue on (Jentral Avenue. So, they had t�o put in sane medians at the ��rsection in order to make this work, psychologically, to mave the traffic �to Rice Creek Rpad to Highway 65. Mr. Flora stat�ed that based on so�ne of the oaYUY�ents made at the meetings regarding the medians, staff felt it might be appropriate tA put a parkway system along Central Avenue to tie the two intersection nodes toaether. �ey have atte�ted to incoYporatre as r.�any << nts fr�n tne previous n�etings with the public as possible into scmething they think will wnrk and that will impact the property owners as little as possible. In doing this, they would also ' provi6e adequate rid�it-of-way far a bikeway/walkway syst�m parallel to, but off �,he street. Mr. Flora stated on De�er 3, 1987, they sent notioes to all the addresses cn �ntral Avenue and invited them to an informztional meeting to sunnarize the develapments, the historical traffic m�ve- ments, the traffic nlmUers, the variaus concepts, the development of `- '- _. . the two intersections, and then the parkway system. Zhey had sane disc�sion about the parkway, explained what the median wau]r3 bP.,used for, haa they laid it out schematically and the purpose for it---to �� m PAId{S & REC�EATION CCI�iNIISSIIX�T N�ETING, FEBRi1ARY l, 1988 PAC� 9 help reduoe the traffic on C�ntral Avenue, t� provide a safety aspect for people using the park and for the people living along �ntral Avenue, to help slc�w the traffic down, and to provide an environmPaztal buffer into residential properties. Mr. Flora stated that based on the Dec. 3, 1987, meeting�and the discussions they had, the people pretty much felt if there �aas going to be parking along Central Avenue, they would like to see parking on their side of the street, with no parking on the park side of the street. �'�s an alternative, in adding an additional parking lot was added in the park. It was possible to oonstruct a circular parking lot, with parking along the perimeters and a grassy open area in the r�iddle, near the fishing dock area in the park. He s�.ated a letter was sent to the people on Central :�venue s�rizing the Dec. 3rd meeting. As a result a nur.�ber of people who did nat atteryd the meeting and wizo apparently mis- understood what was being pro;�osed regarding the parkway did not go along with the concept and submitted a petition to the City Oouncil with 100+ signatures. ?'hese signatures represented people frcm all over the City, fran Fairr,r�nt St. and East River Road to Colurabia Heights. P1r. Flora stated that they are planning to have another public r.�eeting in mid to late April and again invite the public,the people who signed the petition, the people livinq along Central Avenue, and the peaple who access onto Central Avenue. At that time, they will go through t'�e whole scenario again and try to ex�lain the concepts. Because of the concern about r,iedians, staff was going to try to take sane videos of other parkways in the metro area and be able to shaw sane other medians in residential neighborhoods, what they look like, and how they are used. It was proposed that if sar.iething lil:e this did proceed, it would be an HI:A project, so there would be no assessr.ients to the property cx�mers. d. Stevenson PTSO Request P1r. Kirk stated the Stevenson �.';'SO had come to the Parks &�ecreation C�mission about 1� years ago requesting assistance for playground equipment. At that time, the Ca�nission voted to expend up to $4,000 to assist with the equipmnent. '�7�e Stevenson PTSO now had another project i.n mind and that was ano�� piece of equipment on the praperty just south of the school. It was woocl forr.i type playground equiimtient, and they are looking at upgrading that equipment to r,�ake it a little more exciting and usable for the children. Mr. Kirk stated the PTSO does plan to came back to the Cormission again to ask for assistance. Dan Klingensmith had asked to be put an this meeting's agenda, but because he had not receive d some background material frc� the manufacturer, he requested to be put on the DZarch agenda. rir.Klingensmith ha� sugqested they r.�ic�t not be looking for direct funding as much as they might be loaking for assistance frcm the City in installing the equipment. r'ir. I:irk stated he had told TIr. Klingensmith that if they are going to request assistance fra*.i the City, the City would need to knvw hoa� much assistance was being requested in terr.�s of time, manhours needed, etc. He had also asked I�r. Klingensmith to look into whether the manufacturer .; p�1FZKS & RDCREATION C(�'A'iISSION P'�'ID7G, �'ESRUARY 1, 1988 PAGE 10 would send a representative to help guide the volunteers who are putting up the equipment. He stated cc��anies often do that. e. Update on AIDS Policy P1r. Kirk stated that at the last meeting, t-ir. Young had l�rought up the conc�rn about AIDS and had talked about a policy either in the high school wrestling league or in his school district. Since the City does offer a wrestling program, Mr• Young felt they should look into scxre kind of policy regarding A�S; also as it pertained to all programs offered by the City. Mr. Kirk stated they did get sa:�e information fran the Fridley School District, and their policy at this tir.�e is that if the child is able, the child takes care of cleaning and disposing of the blood product. If the child is unable to do so, then the nurse wears rubber gloves and is very careful to wash thoraughly. Mr. Kirk stated the City is in the proc.�ess of working out something with their medical advisors frcm the Fridley Medical Center, as far as developing some kind of c�ntron sense total work policy on haa to handle injuries, keeping in mind the AIDS concern. Ms. Schreiner stated they are really talking about a small percentage of people at this point, so she did not think they needed to get h}rsterical. She was irore concerned about tlze stu�r progra��ing, because there was a lot of potential for children to get hurt. Nlr. Kirk stated they will continue to pursue this. They are looking into having some kind of policy and something that the City as a whole will be concerned with as far as all City er�loyees. 3. OLD BUSINESS: a. FYSA Girls' Basketball Participation Rule Psr. Kirk stated that at the last meeting, the Coa�missioners had questioned the participation rule for the girls' basketball program. He had relayed this to the FYSA, and the follawing amendment to the Traveling Teams Participation Rule was submitted to the City: "In traveling, every girl will participate in the c�ne, whether it is a league game or a tournament game. By particiPating, we mean playing during the game, not sitting on the bench or being involved in time- outs, pre-game wann-ups or half-time activities. Ebery girl will participate at practice also." Mr. Kirk stated that si.nce there was no longer a quonan, he would bring this back to the Co�Ymission at their P7arch meeting for consider- ation and approval. r } PARKS & P.�REATION CCr�ZISSION r1EE.TING, FEBRU�RY 1, 1988 PAGE 11 b. Response Letter to Tae Kwon Do Center Mr. Kirk stated he had taken the concerns expressed by the C�nissioners at their last meeting and sent a letter to Mr. Kim e�ressing to him that the Canrdssioners felt that, rather than take business away fran him, the City's karate program may, in fact, enhance his'business. He stated he had not reoeived any response bacJc fran Mr. Kim. c. Goose/buck Problem at Nioore Lake Pir. Kondrick stated he had forwarded to tY�e Planning Commission the reo�ndatian the Cce�u�ussion had made at their last meeting that an ordinance be drafted to prohibit the feeding of ducks and geese on public property. Mr. Kondrick stated Mr. Betzold, Chairperson of the Planning Co�ission, felt such an ordinance would not be enforceable. The C�mission m��rs seemed syy�athetic to the prablem of the ducks and geese but the majority of the Commission members agreed with Psr. Betzold that this type of ordinance was not enforceable. The motion went on to the City Council with a 2-2 vote. Mr. Flora stated the City Council is concerned about the pr�blem and has asked staff to pursue it further. He stated that, as the Conunissian m�,.mbers knew, artificial swans wauld be placed in the lake this year to see haw that works in scaring off the Canadian Geese, but it will not be a solution for the P9allards. �4ithin the �ain Cities, there has been a 000Perative program with the Dr7it of Minnesota and the DNP. of Oklah�na to relocate the Canadian Geese's nesting areas. He stated the State is recognizing the ducks as an issue and are loaking at funding a study this year to address the prable� with the ducks on the lakes. A9s. Schreiner asked if an ordinanoe prahi.biting the feeding of ducks was enforceable on public prcyperty. Mr. Flora stated they could try to pass an ordinanoe to that effect, but then they would need a police officer sitting there to enforce the ordinance. rLs. Schreiner stated maybe they oould post a sign with the idea of making people aware that by feeding the ducks, they were contributing to pollution and the spread of diseases. Mr. Allen stated that unless they are going to enforce an ordinanoe, then there was no sense to even post signs. d. School Census Report Nir. Kirk harided out a s�mall map of Fridley with different areas of the City marY,ed shawing the ntunber of chi�ldren in each area in senior high, middle school, elementary school, and preschoolers. Also, they �� 4 PARKS & FtF7CP�ATION CCP�'iISSIOPI N1EETir1G, F�'•.•B12UARY 1� 1988 PAGE 12 plotted the addresses on four large maps. For the Spring Lake Park School District, they did not get addresses for preschoolers, but did get the niunbers of chilclren for the different areas. Mr, Kirk stated this information was going to be very he],pful. The Public Works Department was interested in this information in deter- rtining what facilities were needed in the different parks, skating areas, ballfield locations, playground equipment, etc. Mr. Kirk stated he did follow up with the Anoka-Hennepin School District reqarding the 282 households in the northwest section of Fridley, north of 79th, and all 282 hauseholds c3r� have dzildren. ADJOU�'SIl"�: The meeting was unofficially adjourned at 9:05 p,m. Respectfully submitted, xC , " C`-t� Lynn a Reco ing Secretary � . • �� ._� IiUMAN RES(7URCF5 CQ`T4ISSIQN ME�.�TIlQG F'EB�JP,RY 4, 1988 CAI� TO OI',DEIt: Chairperson Sherek called the February 4, 1988, Htunan Resources Catndssion meeting to order at 7:45 p.m. �3DLL C1�I�I,: N�mbers Present: i�bers Absent: Others Present: S�e 5herek, Francis van Dan, Dick Storla Claudia Dodge, Paul Westby Bill Hunt, Assistant to the City Manager APPROVAL OF JANUARY 4, 1�88, HCRdAN RESOiJRCES CCNMISSI�J MIlVU't'ES: r�arzorT �,rzr. Storla, seeonded by Mr. van Dan, to apprvve the January 4, 1988, Hu[t�an Resources C�ussic� minutes as written. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VO►TING AYE, CHA�ER.SON Sf�REK DD�,ARED Ti� Nf�J'rION CARRIID UI3ANg�QUSLY! APP12�lAL OF AC,�IDA; I�ION by Mr, van Dan, seconded by Mr. Storla, to apprave the agenda as presented . UPON A VOICE VO►I'E, ALL Va►rING AYE� CHAIF'�'ERSON SE�REIC D�CIAFtID TF� NK7TION CAF.FtIED UI�►NIl�lOUSLY. 1. OLD BLTSINFSS : a. Consideration of Adult Literacy in Fridley Ms. She�ek stated.that at the last z�9eeting, Ms. Dodge had volunteered to draft up a pos�ible program of action for review and discussian by the Calmission. Si7ice r7s. Dad9e was not at the meeting, she stated this item shauld be oontinued until the next meeting. b. Policy Reca�nerydation on Data Utilizatior� in the City of Fridley - Pro4ress rePort P'Ls. Sherek stated the policy recaYmendation on data utilizatioa� in the City of Fridley was brought to the Pl.anning Ca:mi.ssion at their Januazy 27th meeting. The Planning Camussian concurred with the Htunan Resources Catmission's reoocrn�ndatioa� and passed it on to th�e City Cotmcil to be put on the City Council ager�da for February 8• . M� HUMAN RESOURCES CC�`'lISSION NIY�PING, E'�JA� 4, 19 88 PAGE 2 c. No Fault Grievance Procedure Training DLs. Sherek stated that at the last meeting, Mr. Hunt had stated there were smre sessions �ning uP• 'I�e T�xt tv� w�x'e s�� for Feb. 13 in Bloomington and riar'dz 5 in New Brighton. 5he suggested tj�at � riotice of these meetings be put in the Fridley Focu.s. 2. 1�W BUSINESS: a. R,eview/Establish 1988 V�]�rkplan Mr, Hunt stated the issue before the Cam�ission was whether or not they wanted to start dev�elaping a new workplan. Right now the two things the Camnissio� was working oai was (1) adult literacy and (2) C�BG funding. Ms. 5herek stated she felt they needed t�o start fornnulating a new workplan. P4aybe they should be asking the City Council for so�rie directi�. � Catmission has never qone to ti�e City Council for any directioaz in the past. She knew Councilm�nber Jorgenson felt there were some gaps in himian resources for adults who are not seniors in the County• Cowzcil- menni�er Jorgenson was wondering what kinc3s of resources there were for these adults. 1�Ls.. Sherek stated she was not sure hvw they �rould go about addressinq that kind of thing. ris . 5herek stated that regardin g the issue of adult lit�eracy, Counci.l- member Jorgenson has a c1�us'c� �t is lodcing for a public outreach project, so child care and transportation might be soanething the church would be interested in taking on as a project. pir. Hunt stated he had sPolce� �O Jack I�irk� Director of Parks and �t�.�, g,�ources Department, abalt the possibility of oanbinin5 adult literacY P�Jr� with sane parks ar�d recreation progra�ni.n5 du�'irxJ the stu�ner. Mr. Kirk was very apen to any proposai the Conmissioa� might cane up with. The City has a rnunber of pro9z'ams that are at C�ns Park which is directly across frcm the Carar�unitY Education Center, so that would certai.nly be conv�enient for parents taking classes at the CorRrnanitY Education Center. Ms. 5herek stated they could continue to work on the workplan at their next meeting when, hapefully, all the members would be present. b. Review Guidelir�es, Grant Application Forn�s, Scoresheets, and Schedule for 1988 CDBG F'unds for Htunan Service Organ�zatioris Mr. Hunt reviewed the "Fridley Htanan Resources Con�ussion Activity Schedule for Allocating 1988 C9�G Funds for Hunan Servi.ce Orga�v-zations�� with the Camussian. Also i.ncluded in tile ager�la Aacket were the "News Release" dated Feb. 5, 1988, to be put in the Fridley Fcicus an� P�� i.n different locations, a"CATV Ann�ance�ent for HLUnan Resourr.es Ca�nussion", xor� xESaJx�s ccr�zssz�v r�ra�c, �u� 4, i9ss PAGE 3 a list of the Htanan Servioes Organizations which received the guidelines last year, "The 1988 Guidelines for Applicatio�ns for �vnding for Htuaan Servioe Programs", and the Cornnissi�'s scoring sheet. Mr. Hunt stated this year they will send to each of these organizations the guic�lines and the anr�unoement. Mr. Hunt stated there was also a menr� dated Feb. 8, 1988, whidl would be sent to all the h�n services organizations.: The � had not been changed much exc�pt for the addition of #5: "Organizatioz�s receiving funds will be required to enter into a contract with the City of Fridley �or the provision of the servioes for which funding is granted." He stated that this had riot been done before, but Ms. Joann Wright frem Anaka County has stated that the City has to have an agreement with each organization receiving funding. Mr. Hunt stated that this year they only have half as much moaiey as they did last year. Last year, they had approximately $32,900. That was 30� of the allocations to the city. This year, at the present time, they are listed as going back to the 15$, so the allocation is approxir.iately $16,400, and that is all they can count on at this time. Mr. Hunt stated that, unless ttiere was scsre abjection, they w�ould prooeed acoording to the schedule as outlined. •� • • i�+ ;KO►rION by Mr. Storla, seconc�ed by D4r. van Dan, to adjourn the meeting. Upon a vo ceiT vote, all wting aye, Chairperson Sherek declared tY�e m�tion carried unanimously and the February 4, 1988, Hun�an Reswrces Conmission meeting adjourned at 8:27 p.m. Respectfully subnatted, �. Saba Recording Secretary 0 CITY OF FRIDLEY ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 16, 1988 CALL TO ORDER: . Chairperson Svanda called the February 16, 1988, Environmental Quality Commission meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Richard Svanda, Paul Dahlberg, Maynard Nielsen, Steve Stark Members Absent: Wayne Wellan Others Present: William Dunn, Minnesota Pollution Control Agency (MPCA) Bruce Bondow, Energy Commission Member Lisa Campbell, Planning Associate INTRODUCTION OF NEW MEMBERS Mr. Svanda introduced Ms. Lisa Campbell, staff liaison for the Environmental Quality Commission (EQC), and Mr. Steve Stark, new Commission member. Ms. Campbell has been with the City since June 1987 as the Code Enforcement Officer. She is taking over the duties of Ms. Myra Wicklacz, and she will also be working with the Energy Commission. Ms. Campbell has a degree in Urban Studies from the University of Minnesota and has had previous experience . with the plinneapolis Civil Rights Department in contract compliance. Mr. Stark has been a resident of Fridley for nine years and is interested in environmental issues. He is a soil scientist and agronomist with a degree from the University of Minnesota. He works at the MPCA with land applications. During the last few years, Mr. Stark has also worked part-time for the University of Minnesota on a composting project where they are investigating the feasibility of using solid waste compost for horticultural and agricultural uses. APPROVAL OF JANUARY 19, 1988, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION by Mr. Nielsen, seconded by Mr. Dahlberg, to approve the January 19, 1988, Environmental Quality Commission minutes as written. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SVANDA DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. ENVIROrMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 16, 1988 PAGE 2 1. OLD BUSINESS Pro osed State Legislation, The Com rehensive Waste Reduction & Recycling Act 1988 A. Mr. William Dunn, MPCA, attended the meeting to discuss the proposed legislation, copies of which were distributed at the meeting•MPCAout a year ago, representatives from the Waste Management Board, � and several environmental groups got together to discuss solid waste and the need to be comprehensive in waste reduction. They lookedortunit what other states have done. The objective is to provide the opp Y for everyone to recycle a portion of their waste stream and provide funding sources to support the program; keeping in mind the solid waste hierarchy established in 1980 in the Waste Management Act which is waste reduction first, recycling and treatment second, and lastly disposal. Steps have been taken in recycling and treatment, but little has been done in waste reduction. The group has also been working with the staff at the Metropolitan Council. While the Met Council has not endorsed the proposed act, the staffs work together to keep informed on what others are doing both in the area and in the state. Mr. Dunn reviewed the summary of the proposed statute. The opportunity to recycle is the center focus. By 1990, curbside recycling will be offered in metro area communities with a population over 5,000. By 1992, second class cities (Rochester, St. Cloud, etc.) will have service as well. This will be 52% of the State. Cities with populations less than 5,000 in the metro area and 5,000 - 20,000 in greater Minnesota will have the opportunity to recycle three materials in addition to beverage containers, ie. plastic two-liter bottles, glass, aluminum, and steel. The act would establish a container deposit of 10� on beverage containers. Retailers who do not wish to participate can receive an exemption. Those who participate would receive a 2Q handling fee per container. The Waste Reduction Initiative Fee is part of the waste reduction effort. It establishes a 1� packaging fee levied for non-food items at the wholesale level. Packaging for food items would be exempt, except fast food packaging such as styofoam containers. If the container is recycleable or made out of recycled materials, the supplier may get an exemption. The la fee on packaging could generate $18 million per year. A 95% return rate of containers can be expected and could generate $10 million per year. A Recycling Initiatives Fund would be created with the fees collected. �aenty p ercent (20%) of this fund would be remitted to the counties to offset their expenses for assuring the opportunity to recycle. Eighty percent (80%) of the revenues would be available for waste education, market development, supporting existing recycling systems, grants, etc. This would be a new permanent funding source for recycling and would s*_ay in the recycling area. Mr. Dahlberg asked, from the standpoint of the legislation and how it impacts corporations around the state, what is their reaction to this kind of program? ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSZON MEETING, FEBRUARY 16, 1988 PAGE 3 Mr. Dunn stated that reactions vary. Container deposit has been around for a long time with proponents and opponents. This program involves more products including packaging. Fackaging regulations are currently in place but are not enforced. He has not spoken directly with industry, but indicated there is concern because this is change. A statewide mixed municipal solid waste composition study would be completed. The Met Council is doing another study in the metro area. From that, minimum recycling levels will be developed for�residential, commercial and industrial areas. By 1994, if these levels have not been reached, additional separation will be needed. Mr. Svanda asked how this would be done. Mr. Dunn stated that this would take place in 5- 6 years. At this time, it has been left at separation. Because they don't know the results of the study and what will be required at that time, the agency will make that decision. With the opportunity to recycle, they are trying to stay flexible. They know the direction they are going, but do not know all the answers. Plastic containers would have a stamp indicating what resins are used in that product. The problem now is caused because the content of the plastic is not known. With the Waste Reduction Initiative Fee, a State logo would be developed and put on products that are recycleable. Prohibitions include the plastic six-pack ring connectors, the plastic can (mixed plastic and metal), and food packaging made with polyvinyl chloride (PVC). The FDA has questions about the food packaging being linked as a precursor to dioxins in the incineration process. Yard waste would be prohibited by 1992. Yard waste is defined as garden wastes, leaves, lawn cuttings, weeds, and prunings generated at residential property. The prohibition is that yard waste may not be disposed in mixed municipal solid waste, land disposal, or resource recovery facility. Mr. Svanda thought a bill was proposed that would require the use of biodegradeable plastics. Mr. Dunn stated there is such a bill being introduced by Rep. John Rose, of Roseville. Sponsors for the Waste Reduction & Recycling Act are Senator John Marty and Representative Phyllis Kahn. The bill is currently being revised. Although the copy distributed does not contain the specific language that will be contained in the final draft, it is the same in intent and very similar in wording. Mr. Dunn also distributed copies of the Recycling Initiative Fund which explains the different funding systems that will be created. Mr. Dahlberg asked what kinds of provisions do adjacent states have on the books and in operation. Can items with the Minnesota logo be redeemed only in Minnesota or is there a reciprocity? ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 16, 1988 PAGE 4 Mr. Dunn indicated that there are such agreements on the East Coast. Iowa currently has a 5� container deposit, Minnesota's will be 10¢. He did not know what Wisconsin would do. Mr. Dunn was not sure how this would be accounted for. The legislation does not provide for this. Mr. Stark asked the likelihood of the legislation passing. Mr. Dunn indicated they have picked up some proponents bu� have also gained some opponents. It takes 103 people in the State to say a bill becomes law. There are a number of people who are getting tired of seeing throw-away food containers and recycling of only 8% of containers. The act involves more than containers. It is necessary to look at 60% of the waste stream. One experienced legislator said something as comprehensive as this would take one year to e;:plain and another year to decide. Mr. Dunn stated that members of the coalition are getting out and starting to explain what the act is about. It helps when there are existing programs. Mr. Dahlberg stated that one issue is Anoka County's proposed method of allocating funds to communities based on the tonnages collected. As tonnages decrease because of the returnable bottles and cans coming out of the bins, he suggested determining what is saved and using that figure so the City can get their allocation from the County. The County has $159;000 to allocate. They have set a per ton rate that decreases with increased collections. There is no incentive to do better. Mr. Svanda felt the effect of taking bottles and cans out of the bins would be the same for everyone. All collections should decrease and, therefore, the allocation per unit should increase. Mr. Dahlberg stated the County is not obligated to match Met Council funds . Mr. Dunn stated he would keep the commission informed of any develop- ments. He asked if the City would take action on the proposal. Mr. Svanda felt it important for the City Council to pass a resolution supporting the proposed legislation. Fridley was the first city in Anoka County, and one of the first in the metro area, to have a curbside program. The City has the curbside program, a central drop-off site, central waste oil collection, and composting. He felt it particularly noteworthy that Fridley support the Comprehensive Waste Reduction & Recycling Act. Mr. Dahlberg stated the Act mandates that certain things have to occur. Mr. Svanda noted the Act allows the State to do the job before the mandates come into place. Mr. Stark indicated the Act covers all areas of recycling. Also important is that the fund can be used by businesses in addition to units of government, which is good for both public and private enterprise. 0 ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 16, 1988 PAGE 5 MOTION by Mr. Dahlberg, seconded by Mr. Nielsen, to recommend to the Planning Commission and City Council their support of the proposed Comprehensive Waste Reduction & Recycling Act; that the City Council pass a resolution in support of the Comprehensive Waste Reduction & Recycling Act; and forward the resolution to the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency, Waste Management Board, Metropolitan Council, Anoka County, and State legislators representing the City of Fridley. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SVANDA DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. B. Publicity & Education: Nature Center Proposal Ms. Campbell distributed copies of a memo from Karen Shanberg, Springbrook Nature Center, regarding curriculum for an environmental education program. The proposed costs are $5,000 whicti is the amount left in the D.E.E.D. and P.I.E. Grants. The Met Council may need to approve the program. Mr. Svanda asked if the program would go to the various schools. Ms. Campbell indicated it would. She recommended the proposal be reviewed and funding be discussed atthe next meeting. This would provide staff the opportunity to work out some numbers before a decision is made. Mr. Svanda asked if the program would be done this school y�ar. Ms. Campbell stated it would not be ready. An extension will be requested from the Met Council for the next school year. Mr. Svanda asked what the existing funds were to be used for. Ms. Campbell thought it was Ms. Wicklacz's intention to develop a program on her own and then found that a program had already been developed. Mr. Svanda requested this item be tabled until the next meeting. 2. OLD BUSINESS - Proiect Status Update A. Super Cycle Update Ms. Campbell indicated that the City Council had approved a 5% increase in the contract amount. This information has been forwarded to Super Cycle who has not yet responded. Super Cycle is looking for a 73% increase over six months. Mr. Svanda asked if Super Cycle was still looking at a staggered approach. Ms. Campbell stated they were. The City received an invoice from Super Cycle for $1,400, which was paid. However, there is no contract, and the City may not be able to pay such an invoice again next month. ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 16, 1988 PAGE 6 Mr. Svanda encouraged staff to pay on an invoice. The program cannot afford to have a gap in service. He also felt the increase being requested by Super Cycle was not reasonable. Mr. Dahlberg asked the status of other bids. Ms. Campbell indicated she had not heard from Blaine Management. She anticipates that the City will renegotiate with Super Cycle on a short-term basis and at the same time explore other optio�s. Staff will work with Super Cycle to reduce the proposed rates. Ms. Campbell indicated the City had received another $900 from Anoka County. She will check to see if there are funds available for the program to provide for a rate increase. Another option is to change the program, which she did not want to do at this time. There are not many other options available. Mr. Svanda stated that in the past there have not been many bidders for the curbside program. He had hoped there would be more companies interested in participating in a curbside program at this time. Ms. Campbell will provide more information at the next meeting. B. MSD-S 0 R T - Lease Agreement Ms. Campbell indicated the City had reached an agreement with MSD-S.O.R.T. for a one-year extension of the current lease. There is a change on the last page from 60 days to 90 days. Mr. Svanda asked if MSD was going to get more involved with plastics. Ms. Campbell was not sure. Plastics will be a new area and there are numerous problems with plastics. MOTION by Mr. Dahlberg, seconded by Mr. Stark, to approve the lease agreement as amended between MSD-S.O.R.T. and the City of Fridley. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SVANDA DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 3. OTHER BUSINESS A. Anoka County Solid Waste Task Force Ms. Campbell received information at the February meeting on performance based funding. Several different options are given. The commission was asked to look at the request and respond to a survey. Mr. Dahlberg indicated the Task Force is looking at ways to allocate revenues. Various options are listed with examples and their pros and cons. The Task Force wants to make a decision at the next meeting regarding the appropriate option to take. The questionnaire that follows is to be completed and returned to the Task Force. Mr. Dahlberg asked the Task Force what would happen to the funds if a municipality did not meet their allocated goal. They initially stated that the funds would go back to the County. ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 16, 1988 PAGE 7 Mr. Dahlberg stated that, if a city did not reach a goal, they would not receive all of the funds they were entitled to receive. He felt this should be addressed on the survey. Based on the chart, Fridley would need to collect 572 tons per year. If Fridley exceeded that tonnage, there would be no incentive to increase that amount. The Met Council has funds and Anoka County has some matching. Since Fridley has the potential to get over $25,000, it would be nice to take advantage of the opportunity. On the other hand, funds are provided to cities for their start-up costs. The chart used a 17% figure. Mr. Svanda stated he was concerned with the volume. Mr. Dahlberg indicated the survey at this time is trying to determine the best way to measure. Mr. Svanda felt that tonnages would be easier to monitor. Mr. Dahlberg noted that haulers are not always accurate so that method also has problems. The tonnage method was recommended by Carl Mashad because it is easier to monitor than households. Mr. Dahlberg would like to provide the Task Force with some information for their next meeting on March 2. Ms. Campbell had reviewed the options for existing recycling programs and felt option A. Reimbursement based on the number of tons actually recycled; option C. Reimbursement based on a sliding scale and tons anticipated for recycling according to the Anoka County Master Plan; and option D. Reimbursement based on a combination of tons per house- hold and participation rates; were perhaps most appropraite for the City. Ms. Campbell suggested that the commission could add a statement to the Additional Funding Criteria relating to communities exceeding the goal. Mr. Dahlberg indicated that there should be encouragement for other communities to start and establish programs. Mr. Svanda thought there should be some acknowledgement for those cities that exceed their quota. Mr. Dahlberg indicated that Hennepin County will contribute to communities that recycle up to 50% of the cost up to a certain tonnage and up to 80% of the cost over that amount. Hennepin County will contribute $2 per container for anyone that wants to purchase them. The County encourages recycling. Anoka County does not provide the same support. Hennepin County's funds are from tipping fees, and the County has allocated other funds also. Mr. Svanda felt the first option, A, was the preferred method of monitoring a program, and also felt it important to provide for an incentive for cities that exceed their quota. Mr. Dahlberg indicated that if those communities having no established programs would set up a yard waste program, they could get tonnages right away. With 'just this program a community could achieve the 1990 goals. ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 16, 1988 PAGE 8 Ms. Campbell will indicate on the survey support of Option A, and add under additional funding criteria to address the problem of cities that go over on the tonnages. Mr. Dahlberg wondered if bins would help improve the participation rate. The use of bins supposedly increases participation by 43%. Mr. Svanda felt the City could not afford to purchase bins for everyone, but perhaps the City could look at subsidizing bins such as the program in Hennepin County. Mr. Svanda indicated there is a company in St. Paul that makes bins that are less expensive, but he did not know the sizes or the durability. Mr. Dahlberg felt that at this point in is better to keep recycling less complicated. Mr. Dahlberg stated a representative from the University of Minnesota Extension Program has information regarding yard waste. They have literature entitled Composting & Mulching: A Guide to Managing Organic Yard Waste which is about backyard composting and will be available through the County Extension Agent in the near future. There is also a program entitled Solid Waste: You Can Make A Difference which has a tape and a presentation guide and will also be available through the County Extension Service in March or April. This program requests volunteers to make presentations to community groups. It may be of interest on Cable TV. The contact person for the Anoka County Extension Service is Trish Olson. Mr. Dahlberg stated he would attend the Task Force meetings on a regular basis. He felt the meetings were very informative. The agenda for the next meeting includes a composting report. It is scheduled for March 2 at 7:00 p.m. at the Bunker Hills Activity Center. The April 6th meeting will have a legislative update. B. City of Champlin - Organized Collection Mr. Svanda asked if there was any further information on Champlin's program of organized collection. Ms. Campbell did not have information, but will provide an update at the next meeting. Mr. Dahlberg felt organized collection may be an option if the City cannot come to an agreement with Super Cycle. C. Joint rleeting of EQC and Energy Commission Ms. Campbell asked if inembers had considered a joint meeting with the Energy Commission. ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY i6, 1988 PAGE 9 Mr. Svanda asked Ms. Campbell to contact the Energy Commission members and to schedule a meeting for next month if acceptable with that commission. ADJOURNMENT MOTION by Mr. Dahlberg, seconded by Mr. Nielsen, to adjourn the meeting. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SVANDA DECLARED THE FEBRUARI' 16, 1988, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:30 P.M. Respectfully submitted, % � , � L vonn Cooper Recording Secretary ,, .