PL 07/27/1988 - 30685CITY OF FR.IDLEY
PL�1I�TIlVG �N.�1IS8IDN N�.CIlVG. JULY 27, 1988
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c�r,r, 'lU O1�ER:
C�airperson Betzold called the July 27, 1988, Planni.ng C�unission meeting to
ozrler at 7:35 p.m.
1d�LL CALL :
M�nbers Present: Dorrald Betzold, Dave Korxirick, Dean Sab�a, Alex B�.rna.
Sue S'herek, Paul Dahlberg
Msnbers Absent: None
Others Present: Jock Rcabertson, C�rurninity Develo�nent Director
Kathlyn C�stle, Planni.ng Assistant
Jim Hill, Acting City Mar�ager
Bill Bartram. 6121 Bzooklyn Blvd.
Susan Prebil, 6121 Brooklyn Bl�rd:
Michael Klein (architect for Wil�i.am Bartram?
James H. Parker, 53 00 HigYbvay 101, Mim�etonka
Becky Anderson, 500 Osborne Rd... (Nort�aestern Orth. )
Lirr7a Sandberg. 500 Osborr�e Rd:. (Northwestern Orth. )
Leon Martin, Ur�iversity Avern�e-Associ.ates
Lirr7a Fisher, (representi� Sprir�rook A�rrments)
� Father Jahn Magxanan, Orthodox Church
V ladimir Chahovskoy. 4717 Coliunbus Ave. S.
Teriy Hart, 6000 - 3xr7. St. N.E.
APPIa7VAL OF JUl� 22 , 19 88. L�l'�AT�IING CAPM�ISS IDN MIlVU'!'E.S :
Mr. Dahlberg stated that on pages 4, 6, and 9, "25-30 second sheathing
material" should be changed to "25/30 inch sheathirrx� materia].".
NDTmN by Mr. Korx�rick, seconded. by Ms. Sherek, to approve the June 22 ,
1988, Planning C.atmnission mirnites as ame�ded.
UP�N A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIlVG AYE, Q�P.IRFER90N BIIZQLD DECLARF.D THE 1�TION
C�1RR.IED UNANIl�U�Y.
1. PUBLIC HEARIl�IG: CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #88-08, BY
- W]I,L?AM BAffI'RAM:
Per Section 205.14.01.C.2 of the Fridl� City Code to 'allaw automobile
agencies to sell ar di�play new and/or used vehicles; per Section
205.14.01.C.8 of the Fridl� City Code to allow exterior storage of
materials and equipment on Lot 2, Block 2, Springbrook Apartments at
Northtown, ger�rally located. mrth of 83 �1 Avenue and west of University
Avernie.
PC]BLIC I�AR� OPEN
^ Mr. Ro�rtson stated this pzroperty was zoned C-2, general business d.istrict,
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�� which allavs autcenobile dealerships and outside storage of materials as a
speci.al use. The property abuts an 1�3, multiple dwelling district, to the
west arx3 C�2 to the mrth and south.
Mr. Robertson stated the elevations still did .not show any roof top
eqv.iIanent, which was a question that had to be pursued with the petitioner.
The buildirrig wi11 be approximately 28,000 sq. ft. of floor arc� with 22,410
sq. f t. on the ground l evel and approx. 6� 10 0 sq . f t. on the mez z ani.ne
letiel.- The space will be divided. among-shotivroom, office, seYVice, body
shap, �ar�cl e�aar�ion uses.
Mr. Robertson stated this area. was also the site of the Springbrook
Ap�rtments, the Northwestern Orthopedic Clinic, the first clinic the
Planning Ccxrat►.i.ssion rcv�i�ved and r�e.nded apprvval to City Council about
one ymr ago. A second clinic is being planr�ed for the r�rth side of 83rd
Aveznie. -
Mr. Robertson stated the site contains wetlands that will be affected by the
deirelopment. The petetioner has obta.in�d a ratiorral permit f r�n t11e Corps
of Engineers which allaws the f�lling of the wetlands.
Mr. Robertson showed. a site plan t1�at was a revised plan from the one the
Car�missioners had received in their agenda �cket.
Mr. Barr�a sta.ted tha.t regarding the building of a second clinic by
r� No�estern Orthapedics, the way the fronta.ge road is desigr�ed on the mrth
side as c�red to the south side, that was gning to reduce the amount of
p%perLy avail.able to the other lot. Will that still be a vi.able proposal?
Northwestern Orthopedics applied for ar�d received quite a few variances for
the first clinic.
Mr. Robertaon stated he l�u the developers were aware of that difference,
arrl it was possible there would be sane variarices for that property.
Mr. Barna stated. he just wanted NortYss�vestern Orthopedics to be aware that
this if tlzi.s lot was too much smaller than the lot to the south, thesr were
going to have a hard time getting variances because it would be a
self-created hardship.
Mr. Dahlberg asked if staff had had adequate tiune to review the revised.
drawirigs to imke sure the building would adhere to all the setbacks.
Mr. Robertson stated, yes, staff had revie�ved the revised drawings.
Mr. William Bartram, the petitioner, stated they plan to build a new auto
dealership on this �rcel of property. Regarding the avnership of this
�rcel and the parcel immediately to the mst of it, the parcel to t,he ea.st
was sold scane time ago to Nortl�vestern Orthop�dics. Scme time earlier, when
both �rcels were platted, it was his understanding that it was done in
accordance with the desires of the City of Frid1� in terms of layout and
the positioning of the roadway. He stated this was in response to Mr.
��i Barna' s cc�ment about the shape of the other lot. -
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�� Mr. Barra asked if Mr. Bartram vaas plannir� on managir�g t,�ie dealership, and.
what type aut�n.abiles -would he sell ar�d service?
Mr. Bartram stated he would marsge the dealership. He stated he was also
the dealer and President of B�okdale �isler/Ply�uth in Brooklyn Center,
and he has been runnirig that dealership for ten years. He stated they have
single family hanes on two sides of the dealerahip in Brooklyn Center, and
have had no cce�¢nents fn�sn their r.�igYibors. He stated th�y do operate in a
manner to be cognizant of the residential r�eighborhood.
Mr. Bartram stated they will be selling both r�v and used autcen�abiles. Th�r
currently have a frar�hise to sell Yugo brand automobiles, and they are
discussing f rar�hise situations with 2-3 other manufacturers.
Mr. Barna asked if the auto repa.ir shop would be strictly for vehicles being
soid at the dealership, or would it also be apen to the ger�ral public?
Mr. Bartram stated he believed. most dealerships were open to the general
public; how�rer, it would ger�rally be for cars they have expertise on. In
general, they do warranty work arrl custca�ner service work on vehicles sold or
on the used c�rs that are beir� pre�red. for sale.
Mr. Barra asked that regazzdiirig the body shop, were they goirx� to have er�ugh
in�ide storage area for vehicles that are not ready for sale? The
d�lership was ri�t r�ext door to an a�xt�ient complex, and there was the
�"�, possibilii.y of a senior develoFanent to the mrth.
Mr. Bartram stated they are lookir� at additior�l property. They need to
work with the City Englneerir�g Dep3.rtment on the current layout to see haw
the� can lay out the 100 y�r flood drair�age area. They can certainly work
that area sa they have more �rkirx� i.n4nediately to the west of the building
so thesr can have n�re screened parking areas available. They are currently
d.iscussirig with the people marragir� the estate for the -property to the mrth
of aaqui.ring a Lwo acre �rcel whirh would allaa then to have more parking
area for sezvice or bod.y shop vehicles tl�at might be in a damaged cond.i.tion.
He sta.ted he was veYy ser�sitive to that concern and did mt want these types
of vehicles displayed where they would be an eyesore to the general publ ic
and certainly not to the neighbors.
Mr. Betzold asked how this dealership c�red in size to other dealerships
in Fri.dlc-� such as Viking Chevivlet or Nissan North.
Mr. Bartram stated the ma.in parcel of land th�y currently awn and are
proposir� the devela,�anent for was appzvx. 3.2 acres. Most car dealerships
he was familiar with were built on anythir� fxnm slightly aver two acres up
to an average of 3-3 1/2 acres. His car dealership in Birooklyn Center was
4.3 acres which included a green strip around the back of the service
�rking area.
N.[r. Betzold asked what timeframe Mr. Bartram was looking at for the
P"t develo�anent. _.
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� Mr. Bartram stated he would like to commence construction as soon as
= possible so they would be able to ccenplete the outside lot work and have the
first c�.t of pavirig on before late October. They would like to open by
Jan. 1, 1989.
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Mr. Dahlberg asked haw many different brarx•ls of vehicles Mr. Bartram would
be-selling.
Mr. Bartxam stated the rnunber of franchises would depend upon the volume
le�rel those vehicles have in the market area.. They are talking to two other
important frar�iises. Or� of txiese l�as a good preser�e in �st market areas
arxi does mt have su�ficient dealer representation currently in the Twin
Cities market. In that ca.se, t-hey mi�it l�ve the Yugo in Brooklyn Center
ar�c7. put the other brand in Fridlc� by itself. Th�r are talking to a third
manufacturer that wotitld be a lawer voltmne car �urrently, Volkswagen, which
used to have a facility on Central Avernie, south of I-694. If they had the
Volkswagen and the Yugo, that might be all they would have at this facility.
There was the possibilii.y of ar�ther specialty franchi.se that might have a
4-wheel drive utility vehicle t1�at would be a l�m.ited proc7uct line.
Mr. Dahlberg stated the reason he was asking about the number of vehicle
�s was because �ch of these ccerq�,nies would want their own distinctive
sign, arxi Mr. Bartram would be limited by ordirsnce on the amount of sigrage
he would be allaved to have. They do mt want to have billboard signs all
along the street flrontage advertisir� all three ca.r narnifacturers.
Mr. Bartram stated he would mt propose any more signage on the property
than wY1at was allowed by code, regardless of haw many franchises he had.
His preference was for signs that are in keeping with what people would
consider current hi�i end develo,�nent kir�d of pr�files. He was mt looking
for large signs.
Mr. Betzold stated it sound.ed. like the dealershi.p would prisnari.ly deal with
import aut�nobiles.
Mr. Bartram sta.ted. Minnesota State Law states that a new automobile
deele.rship cannot be add.ed within 10 miles of an existing one, so that
pretty well eliminated any domestic franchise in this area unless a
dealership happened to give one up, arrl that v�as rx�t likely to happen.
Mr. Barna asked about the lighting plan.
Mr. Michael KLein, the architect for the proj ect, revicaed the lighting
plan.
Mr. Bartzam. stated they were looking at fixtures tha.t have a vezy high
cut off so the light is d.irected dawn onto the p�operty and is not to go aut
horizontally to be a bright light at s�neor�'s apartment.
Mr. Barr�a asked Mr. Robertson how this lighting plan fit in with the
� University Ave,rnie Corridor lighting plan.
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� Mr. Robertson stated staff has mt had a chance to talk to the architects
about the lighting along Uni.versity Averrue. They Y�ave scane prototypes from
the design consultant for decorative lighting, a gl�e-type fixture, to be
installed in the plantirig strip between the �rkir� lot and the curb. They
could furnish the arcxii.tect with those specif ications. -
Mr. Robertson stated staf f was recx�aner�di..ng the f ollc�ving stipulations :
1. Petitiorier agrees to s�ver and water assessments.
2. Petitioner to install landscapir�gl as per Cii.y apprr�ved plan by June 15,
- 1989.
3. Ftnplo�ee%ustcsr►er/sezvice �rking to be desigrated by sigrage.
4. IInplvyee%ustcener/sezvice �rking to be striped at 10' x 18' stalls.
Display car stalls to be 9' x 18'. -
5. Upon expansion of the aut�bile dealership, the petitioner is to work
with the Cii.y to deternnir� whether or rx�t a pezmit wil l be needed f rom
the De�xtment of Natural Resources and/or the Corps of Erigineers.
6. There is to be m autside speaker usage.
7. A privacy fe�e is to be ir�talled along the west property line by May
,>"� - 15, 1989.
8. The petitioner is to submit a stornn drainage plan for staff apprwal
prior to the City Cou.r�il meeting.
9. A PerFoanar�e Bor�d or Letter of Credit to be submitted to the City of
- Fridley for 3% of the building c:onstruction value pri.or to the issuance
of a buildir� nP�rm; t.
10. A road assessment ar�cl ri.ght of-way exter�sion agreanent to be signed by
- both the petitioner arx3 the r�igYibor to the mrth. This da.�unent is to
be recorded at the Amka C�unty Courthouse prior to the issuance of the
buildir�g pernut.
Mr. Robertson stated t1�.e reason for stipulation #10 was beca.use several
types of develo�ment have been discussed for this area between the
petitioner's propeerty ar�d the YMC7� property. The abjective was t�o get those
dif f erent property aur2ers to agree on the a� igrment for the f rontage road.
Mr Bartram stated he would seriously question stipulation #10. He would be
Y�app� to c�nply with that sti.pulation on his property and tlie property to
the north (if he should aoquire the mrthem piece of property) ; however,
this stipulation states that his ability to proceed with his project was
dependent upon him being able t.o secure approval frcan the properLy awner to
the rnrth, over whan he Y�s m contr_nl whatsoever. In fact, that parcel is
owned by an estate and is beirrx� administered by a bank in St. Paul, aml. they
�� are mt very likely to grant ariything until they are rea�.y to sell the
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�� pro�eriy arrl the r�w c�wner wishes to plat the pr�eriy. At that time, the
City Y�as the authority to designate where the roadway should be on the
property. He did not understand why it should be his respon�ibility to
secure approval f�n. tl�at pzroperty owner which might not be forthcoming and
have his develoFanent stopped unti.l such time as he c�uld get t1�a.t approval.
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Mr. Betzold stated. Nir. Bartram had raised a good. poirit.
Mr. Bartram stated he had m pmblen with the City notifying the property
ow�,ers to the mrth, but he would abj ect to his proj ect being held up until
such a time as the property aarner to the mrth deened it as ]�irlg o.k.
Mr. Bartram stated that regardirx� stipulation #7, while he did mt c�oj ect to
pu�tir� in fer.�ir� and proper screening along the west property line, he
believed that a ccanbiration of evergreen trees or scxne other foliage mi.ght
be a more attractive screening device than having a privacy fence. A
privacy fence usually ends up being wood, it requires a high level of
maintersr�ce, and usually wood privacy fer�es are not terribly attractive.
The area. iiranediately west of there is pr.imarily the back of the apartment
�rages; and he d.id not think puttirig up a privacy fer�ce across the back of
the g-arages would enhar�e anything. He thought they would better serve the
people in the a�rtment buildirigs arrl the cc�¢rninity as a whole if th.ey did
planting of everr�reens or scsne other c�nbiration of screenirig products that
mi.ght provide t1�t screening without spe�ling the money to build a f ence
behirrl garages.
Mr. Robertson stated he had prepared a rough illustration to show the
ger�eral relationship between the apartrnent proj ect and the petitioner' s
px�posal arx]. to point aut that there is a hiking/biking trail between the
garages arrl the praperty line in question. So, it was r�ot j ust passive
space; there was going to be some active use of that area behind the
garages.
Mr. Bartram stated stipulation #6 stated t1�at there be n� outside speaker
usage. Currently, he did mt have any plans for an outside speaker, but
most car d�lerships c10 have scgne kir�d of outside speaker system that is
used. during regu].ar bussiness hours. He would be agreeable to a stipulation
t.1�it allowed the outside speaker systen, but restricted the hours it could
be used; f or exa�npl e, between the lwurs of 8: 3 0 a. m. to 9: 0 0 p. m. Morid.ay -
Satu,zday and r� usage on Sunday. Car dealerships generally close at 6:00
P.m- ori Friday and. Saturday so -he would not anticipate any usage of the
spe�ker system after 6 a 00 p.m. on Friday or Saturday. He stated the
sp�kers are used soley for pa�ging dealership staff. -
Mr. Betzold asked if Mr. Bartram would be agreeable to having a stipulaton
that said the speaker sqsten would be used only for paging.
Mr. Bartram stated he would be agreeable to such a stipulation.
Mr. Saba asked if Mr. Bartram had any intention of installing any kind of
mobile hane to be used as a sales office for the sale of used cars.
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'� Mr. Bartram stated he would r�t. He stated they are ta.king about a high er�d
ap�earar�ce facility, a very clean, �dern, attractive facility, and he would
destray his own image by bringing something of that nature onto the
P�Pe�Y •
Mr. IG�ndxick asked how much distance there was between the rear of the
a�r4ment �rages and the �rki� lot on the west edge. Was a benn possible
ir�st�.d of a fence?
Mr. Klein stated there was approximately 110 feet from the garage wall at
the widest er�d, ar.xi then it rarraws down t.o 65 feet.
Mr. Bartram stated he had cont�nplated a benn along the entire west side ar�d
then doing dense planting of pine trees. Their problem was tha.t the water
storage r�ecessitates a r�gative benn.
Mr. Jim Parker, Advance Suzvv�ring & Engir�eering, stated they were doing the
dr�air.�ge calculations for the pond and right now tlze existing pond goes
right up to the pro,perty line, so in o�er to build a benn on this property
as opposed to on the adjoinir.� p�perty, they would be filling in the pond
rather than creatirx� storage. There was already a rr�a of evergreens which
was in pretty tough shape because of the drought, and there was a pretty
good screening provided by the back of the garages.
Mr. Parker stated that referring to stipulation #10, in looking at the
i"�, suivey, it appeared to hi.m that the strip of land was a platted road
dedicated to the public for public use forever, arid he did not think there
was any msy way of c�hangirx,� that right mw.
Mr. Robertsson stated he had been averly cautious in suggesting stipulation
#10, and that stipulation should be ravozded.
Mr. Dahlberg stated. that with respect to the fence (stipulation #7) , he
ag.eeed with the petitioner tha.t it made sense to not have a fence along
there. A considera.tion that must be taken into account, however, was t1�at a
fence-should be irbstalled fron the southwest corner to the north, at least
to the garages.
Mr. Dahlberg stated that regardi.ng the outside speaker, if the Commission
decided to change stipulation #6 to allaa outside speaker usage, then they
shou].d also stipulate that the speakers mt face the a�rtment canplex.
Mr. Klein explair�d the building materials and descr�bed the plans in more
detail.
Ms. Becky Ar�derson and Ms. Limla Sanomerg were at the meeting representing
Northwestern Orthapedics.
Ms. Anderson stated they had m control over the car dealership going in on
this property, but they were c;oricerned about wha.t the busir�ss was going to
^ loals like on the south side. Nortl�westem Ortl�.oped.ics had to go through a
lot to get appraval for their building, which was a 3-stoYy buildirx� ar�d was
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�` valued at $3/4 million. They have put over $40,000 just into the
landscaping. They were veYy cor�err�d., especially with the other piece of
lar� in front that they avn.
Mr. Klein shawed the landscape plan. They were proposing trees at
approximate 50 ft. intezvals along the right of-w�ay on University Avernie and
ri.ght of-way on 83 rd Avenue. They have a series of interior pla�i ng a rea s
which wi11 basically def ir� the ciz�culation areas.
Ms. Sarx�erg asked about the autside storage. She stated that when they
loc�k at their buildir�, they d� mt warit to � looking at old wrecked cars
out in the middle of the landscaping.
Mr. Bartram stated he does intend to have a h.igh grade def ined kind of
es�ablisl�anent tl�t is attractive to their custcaner base and the people in
the cc�¢nunity. Ar.�ther use that could go in on this same property withaut a
special use penni.t was a gerr�eral merchandise ceriter or other uses that might
be far less attractive than what this facility was with some interior
landscaping and a substantial landscaping barrier along the entire
University Avern�e fr�ntage road.
Ms. Sar�erg stated their main cor�ern was the landscaping and that the auto
dealership is required to meet the same guidelines that the Northwestern
Orthopedics was required to do. She stated the petitioner has shown them
the landscaping plan, and as long as they have the assurance that the
r"�, landscaping will be required under the guidelir�s of the City and that the
larx�sca,ping will be maintained, then she was sure they would � satisfied.
Ms. Lir�la Fisher, stated she was an attorney representing Springbrook
A�rtments. She stated Leon Martin, Marrager of Sprir�rook Apartments was
also in the a�li.er�e. She stated the Springbrook Apartanent proj ect went
through an extensive revi�v process. Springbrook was a site within a
redeveloXanent d.istrict, and the City ha�3 veiy high e�ectations for a high
quality, high amenity, develogmerit in this area, and the developer tried. to
help the City realize those expectations. They retair�ed. a rnunber of experts
to work on the proj ect--hydxologists, wetland and wildl if e experts,
lar�scape archi�ects, engineers, etc. They held a series of preapplication
r�ighborhood meetings at which they presented extensive drawings shawing
visual im,Fa.ct, mitigation of visual im,�ct, arx�. other im,�cts on the Nature
Center. They tried to ac'k3.ress as many coricerns of the Springbrook Nature
C�nter as poss�ble prior to the public hearirigs.
Ms. Fisher stated.there were over 40 conditions for the appraval of the
SpY'i�rook Aparl�ient pr�j ect, and the stipulations were murY�. more specif ic
than the stipulations proposed for the car dealership. Th�r would like this
developer to be held to the same kirrl of performa.r�e standards as they were.
Ms. Fisher stated they want to be good r�ighors, and if the develo�nent does
proceed, they feel they can live with it; ha�ever, they do have an averall
concern about the appropriateness of the land use. The automobile
� dealership is a sp�cial use which means it is not dePmed appropriate as a
matter of right and the developer has the buzden of ineeting fir�dings in the
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�''�1 City Orrlirsr.�e before a pezmit can be issued. She stated they have some
questions as to whether those firrlings can be inet based on the information
presented. She stated that even if the City Council deternnines that the
larrl use is appropriate, they have concerns about specific impacts of the
use and how they can be mitigated and perfonnar�ce starnlasds that can be put
into mare definite stipulations.
Ms. Fisher stated they have not had an opportunity to review the latest
plans preserited at this meetir�, and, in their opinion, th�r felt there wP.Y'2
too mariy unanswered questions for the Planning Commission to make a
reconqnerx7ation at this time.
Ms. Fisher stated they were aware the site was zoried for cce�c¢�nercial use, and
th�y were r�t obj ecting to cc�snercial use, and they knew there were some
uses that would be allaved as a matter of right. Uses they thought mi�t go
on the site that would actually be ameni.ties to-the a�rtrnent proj ect or the
future senior citiz en pr�j ect would be various shopping center uses, grocezy
store, the iyype of things that could set the tor� for the redevelopment of
the area and could work like a planr�d unit develogment. The City did assist
the Sprir�rook proj ect with tax ir�cr�nent housirag arrl �ver�ue bonds, so the
City has an interest in this arc�a. Today, the Sprir�rook Apartments is a
ve�y successful pr�j ect.
Ms. Fisher stated they question whether this is really a good site for a car
de�lership because of the lack of a direct access for mrthbour�l tzaffic off
,�"� University Avenue. They are concerned that if the business does not
succeed, there would.be an empty building and �rkir� lot at the gat�vay to
Sprir�rook Ap�rtments. There is almdy an�npty restaurant on the south
side of 83zd. Aver�ue/Un3.versity Avernie.
Ms. Fisher sta.ted they are concerned about the quality in terms of
construction materials. In looking at the elevations, there was m question
t1�at there was scane veYy high quality features built into the proj ect, but
if they understood the elevations correctly, there appeared to be plain
masoniy on the west side. If that is true, they would be concerned about
the visual .im�ct on Sprir�rook Apartments. They would like to see some
cross sections and scane visva.l afterstudies. Springbrook was required to
put bri.ck on their structure, ax�d it vaas up to the City to decide whether
that was required here. The west side was vezy i.�ortant.
Ms. Fisher stated. they have rbot reviewed the landscaping plan that was
before the Planning Ccx�aniasion. It did not appear to be anywhere near as
densely planted as what was required for Sprin�znolc. Regardir� the privacy
fer�ce as apposed to screening, they were rmt in a position to tell the
petitioner what they think at this time, and they would 1 ike to have same
more inforniation rngardirx� grades, elevations, etc. , in order to decide if
screeni.ng might be better achieved by evergreens, fence, berm, etc. They
were rnt convinced that the screening proposed on the plans was adequate.
Ms. Fisher stated they were veiy concerned about outside storage and the
n sc�eening of ca.rs. An issue mt yet d.iscussed was traffic. C'ar sales could
introduce a sigriif icant amount of traf f ic on 83 rd Avenue . They were
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� apecifically cor�erned. about test drives on 83rd Aver�ouue, and would request
t�hat there be a prohibition against any service testing or test drives on
83rd Avenue, because of the safety issues irivolved. There were a
significant mm�ber of young chi7.dren in the a�rtments, and the dealership
might r�t be able to control some of the test drives. They have some
concern about the cu� cut onto 83xd Avernie, arx3 their initial reaction was
that all access should be off the r�ew frontage znad.
Nls. Fisher stated that in observing other car lots, they have found that
��kir� of ten spills out onto adj acent streets, arrl th�r are cor�erned about
any orr str�t �rkirng that could result on 83rd Avenue that could have a
safety aml visual ,u�ct on Springbrook Apartments. Another significant
concern related to r�ise. There was traffic mise, but more specifically,
there was he mise ccaning fr�an sezvice bays, air wrenches, etc. On one of
the plans, there was a lan�e overhead door pointed at the apartments, and
they have mt seen any studies which indicate that the garage structures
would miti�te that rnise. Thc-� are in favor of a total prohibition of a
laud sp�ker syst�n. The hours of operation did not really satisfy them.
There were a rnunber�-of young c.Yiildren on the Sprirx�rook site. She stated
at a min���, one way to look at this would be a study using the 1+�CA noise
stamlazds which would access whether or mt state mise star�c7an�s were �ing
satisfied. by this pxoj ect. They have mt seen that study, and they think
that would need to be performed before there were any changes in the
conditions proposed by staff rega.n�.ing the pznY�.ibition of the loud speaker.
� Ms. Fisher stated lighting was a concern. They are concerned that the
lights on the west side mt spill onto the adjacent pxnperty and be shaded
arrl diffused dowr�van3. There was a specific stipulation attached to the
Sprin�rook A�rtment-pivj ect tl�at actually required then to elimi.rste their
li�iting on the side t1�zt faces the Sprir.�roolt Nature Center.
Ms. Fisher stated they are very cor�erned that the use, in and of itself,
might have negative impacts regarding evening hours of operation when
residents are at hane and the children are aut on the play lots.
Ms. Fisher sta.ted that, werall, the general area of concern was the storm
drainage/wetland issue. They retained Barton-Ashman and their
wildlife/wetland experts and did extensive wildlife and wetland and
clrair�g-age studies. They needed, an individual Corps of Engineers permit.
She had scane question as to whether this proj ect qUalif ied for a ratiorrwide
permi.t, but at this point, they would r�t contest t1�at. But, they thought
it was an important enough issue to warrant the Planning Commission
reviewing that stornn drair�age plan before actir� on the special use permit.
They would also be willing to work on t1�at plan with the developer to make
sure tl�at vaater is handled in the appropri.ate manner.
Ms. Fisher stated that, in s��azy, they had concerns about the following:
the appropri.ater�ss of the land use, quality of materials, visual impact,
the autside spealcer system, screening, lighting, and the storm drainage
plan.
^ Ms. Fisher stated she would note that in Section 205.05.04.F there are
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�'�� various fin3ings the City Council must make in orcl.er to issue a special use
perntit: the rature of the site, the rature of the adjoini.r� land, traffic,
other factors the City Cour�cil deans appropriate. Subsection F. lists the
health, safety, arxi welfare of occugants of surrounding lar�l; effect on
proerty values, existirx� and antici�ted traffic issues.
Ms. Fisher stated they feel it is the developer's burden to address these
fir�di.rx�s and to denonstrate that those have been met. They question whether
a car dealership on this site can meet those fir�.ings, no matter hav well
ir�tentior.�ed. If the City Council does r�t agree with that, then they feel
there should be a munber of stringent perfonnance starr7ards and. conditions
attac:hed on any approval to miti�te any adverae effects.
Mr. Bartram stated he believed the stipulations the Sprinc,�rook proj ect had
to-meet were more related to the fact that they are right next to tlie
Sprir�rook Nature Center to the west, ar�cl that their property did contain
wetlands that were under the direction of the Corps of Engineers who said
the piece of water they have on their land did not meet ariy of their
considerations for then to Y�ave any interest in it whatsoever, and so they
issued the star�r7ard permit.
Mr. Bartram stated Ms. Fisher had stated she thought a more appn7priate use
fo� the larrl would be-�a grocezy store or other shopping area.. He stated
that the City could wait for a veez.yy long time for that kind of development
because of the Cub Foods Store at Northtown ar�7. another grocery store at
�, 85th Avernie. He could understand that rn�ith an a�rtment complex, it would
be ideal to-have scgneone open up a light traffic soft retail aperation next
door, but he did not know that it was appropriate to derly a use of the
property that he thaught was a reasor�ble use for a cce�unercial area.
Mr. Betzold stated staff and c�r¢nissions have spent a lot of tim.e talking
about the upgrading of University Avenue Corridor so people have the
distinct feeli� of being in Fridl�. Even though the City r�eeds good auto
dealerships, and he was i�rpressed with the plan, this was a vezy important
corner of the city ar�d they Y�ve to be careful about what goes into this
snall area. He sta.ted the Cii.y has been vezy impressed with the Sprirx�rook
A�rtment pr�j ect arad the Northwestern Orthapedics Qinic, and he j ust did
r�t s� then all as �ing c�oatible.
Mr. Bartram stated if a developer had aoquired all those acres and done a
pl�nned unit development, then the City would have had a consistent
devela�xnent. Ur�fortu.rately, t1�at was mt true and the properties are awned
by several -different owners. He stated thEy do plan on having a fine
quality facility and site. nicely niaintained. They were certainly not
designirx� a shabhy structure. -
Mr. Kondrick stated one of the most important issues Ms. Fisher had
addressed was the body shop and the noise associ.ated with a body shop.
Mr. Bartzam stated they have designed. the body shop area so that the sound
,.� wi.Yl be substantially deadened f rom the metal working area.s, which were
' located on the eastern side of the buildirx�. He stated that at his current
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'� dealership in Brooklyn Center, they have single family residents on two
sides of the buil.d.ir� and pz�periy, and thc-� have not had a mise complaint
in seven years. Ar�cl, they aperate a two shif t sezvice department at that
facility, which. they would mt be doing here. He stated he felt they were
aware of these types of potential mise probiems and were taking steps to
mi.nimize the mise.
Mr. Dahlberg stated one question raised. by Ms. Fisher was relative to
tr�.ffic. Were there any standards or doctunents that have been prepared as
general-ir�fo�nation that would suggest how much traffic is generated by a
car dealership fn�sn the starrlpoint of test drives, etc.?
Mr. Bartxam stated Y�e did naw know of any particular study, but at the
Brooklyn Center facility which was a high volLUne facility, th�y sezvice
about 50-60 cars per day, arid. they have approximately 35-50 retail car
shoPP�rs, either for av or used ca.rs, per day. Looking at those traffic
levels, that was about 100-120 cars per day, prus enplc�yee cars. He would
imagine a c:ar clea].erQr;p ger�rated a fairly lani traffic volume compared to
n�st retail establishments. If they had a retail grocery store or some
other type of retail establi.sl�nnent, they could have as many as 100 cars per
lwur instead of 100 cars per da.y.
Mr. Dahlberg asked what the frequer�y ar�c7./or regular delivezy schedule was
for r�w vehicles c�ning in on transports.
�"'1 Mr. Ba.rtram stated they co�ne in during vaorkirig hours, generally after 8:30
a.sn. and never after 4:00 p.m. The length of time for unloading was
appraximately 30-40 mir�uutes. I�e -stated they would get approximately two
transports a week. maybe thsee, particularly with �Yra].ler .import cars.
Mr. Betzold stated Ms. Fisher had raised a suggested stipulation to restrict
test drives on 83 zd A�reriue. Hvw did Mr. Bartram f ee1 about that?
Mr• Bartxam stated if test drives along 83rd Averna.e ever became a nuisance
pivblem, he would be hap,p� to in.struct the salespeople to take tlzose test
drives els�ahere. He wou7,d think the no�tnal area for test drives would be
south on the frontage road. He did not think test drives would be
re��¢nerr7.ed back into the a�ea of the Springbrook Apartments or in the
irrlustrial area.
Ms. Sherek stated a simple solution would be to post a sign at the
dealership exit saying "left turn only" or "right turn for local traffic
On1y ".
Mr. BartYam stated he would mt be opposed to that.
N�I'IDN by Ms. 5'herek, secorgled by Mr. Kom�lrick, to close the public hearing.
U1�N A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIl� AyE, Q�ER�pN gE�LqJ,D DECLARID THE PIJBLIC
HF'AR1VG C�OSID AT 9: 32 P. M.
'� Mr. Barra stated he did not tlunk a car dealership was econcmically f�sible
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'� on this corr.�r, bec�use of the lack of good access�lbility.
Mr. Saba stated he thought the petitioner had done a ve:�y good. job in tYyir�g
to-create a nice lookirng buildir�. The site plan looked nice, and he has
been workirr�g with staff on la�scapir� arrl screenir�g. He stated he has had
his car sezviced. at the Brooklyn Center facility, ar�c3 thc� do an outstandir�
jc�b in beir� a quiet neighbor to the sirigle family homes in the area. He
stated he did r�t think traffic would be a pmblen, arxl he would be in favor
of r�c•o�¢ner�cling approval of this special use pernli.t.
Ms. S'herek stated she would be cor�erned about the outside speaker usage.
She was faur blocks frrBn. a canpany tha.t uses an autside speaker. She statecl
there were other techr�ologies for �gir�g salespeople that would not have any
in�act on the surrounding r.�eighborhood.. Since mise could have an .im�ct on
the residents of the Springbrook Agartrnents, she would be in favor of
stipulation #6 ren�aini.r� the same.
Ms. Sherek stated the issue of the privacy fen�e versus evergreens needed to
be- explored. further. Possibly there should be some combination of
fericirx�/privacy planting at the south er�d where there are no garages, but
she did agree with the petitioner tY�at fencing termis to become an �yesore
aver t�me. .
Nts. Sherek sta.ted she di.d not have a cor�ern about a r�w ca.r dealership in
tl�is location. A lot of t�.ought, planning, and money has gone into this
� P��1• L�en though it would be nice to have a convenience store next to
the a�r�ment build.ings instead of a car dealership, she did not see any
iraApzopri.ateness to this use.
Mr. Kor�c7rick stated he agreed.. His only concern was the n+�ise in the body
s�o�A a�• If tY�a.t can be al�eviated, he would be satisfied. He agreed
with Ms. -Shernk regarding the screening. As far as an appropriate use for
the lar�d, what was appropriate? Th.�s was a good plan. As far as
stipulation #10, that should be deleted arrl the p�vperty awr.�r to the north
should be infornned as to what is happenirlg. He would also be in favor of
stipulation #6 tYiat there be r� a�tside speaker usage.
Mr. Bartzam stated it would be nice to have the availability of an outside
speaker systen; but if the City Council agrees witri that stipulation, he
could 1 ive with it.
Mr. Dahlberg stated. or�e of the issues brought up by Ms. Fisher that hasn't
be�n addressed vaas the finish on the west wall of the �uilding. He stated
that wall should be finished to match the finish of the remainder of the
bui.lding. He did r�t think a�inted block wall, when facing an a�aartment
c�nplex with three levels, vaas sufficient.
Mr. Dahlberg stated. if the landscape tx�trnent was sufficient with respect
to ordi.rar.�e, tl�at was fine, but staff should make sure that the landscapir�
ac�eres strictly to ozdirsnce. Regazding the outside speaker usage, they
,.,, should. also rnt allaw the rir�irx� of any bells.
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�� Mr. Robertson stated he would advise the deletion of stipulation #10.
Mr. Dahlberg stated t1�at he was rnt sure the height of the parapet wall was
sufficient to screen roof top equipment, so he would suggest site line
studies ]� c�one to address the issue, r�t with respect to j ust simply the
view f n�xn. 83 rd Avernie, but al so f n�n University Aver�ue a rid the thi rd 1 ev el
of the a��nent ccgnplex.
Mr. Betzold stated Ms. Fisher had also raised the point of whether the
Pl�nning Commissioh had sufficient information in order to make a
recon¢nendation to the City Council at this tiune. Fn�an what he was hearing,
the Plannir� C�nission menbers se�n.ed ready to make that reccernnerrlaton. He
stated he was mt sure a car dealership was an appropriate use for this
location, ar�cl he was mt sure he could support it, even though it was an
excellent plan. He real�zed there were other uses that could go in on the
praperty without even having to c�ane to the City for approval.
1�TmN 1� Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Mr. Dah].berg, to recommend to City
Council app�3va1 of speci.al use penni.t, SP #88-08, by William Bartram, per
Section 205.14.01.C.2 of the Fridley City Code to allow autcgn,obile agencies
to sell or ciis,�Ia� r�v arx7./or used vehicles; per Section 2 05.14. 01. C. 8 of
the Fridlc-y City Code to atlow exteri.or storage of materials and -equipment
on Lot 2, Block 2, Sprir�brook Apar�nents at Northtawn, generally located
r�rth of 83rd Avenue and west of University Avenue, with the following
stipulations:
^ 1. Petitioner agrees to �e;r and water assessnents.
2. Petitioner to install landscapirx�t and lightirlg as per City appraved. plan
by June 15, 1989.
3. gnpla�ee%ustcaner/sezvice parking to be desigrated by sic,�ge.
4• gnplvyee%ustcan,er/service parking to be striped. at 10' x 18' stalls.
- Display car stalls to be 9' x 18'. -
5• L�pon expa.r�sion of the aut�ile dealership, the petitioner is to work
with the City to determine whether or mt a perm.it will be needed f r�n
the De�artment of Natural Resources and/or the Corps of Engineers.
6. 'Inere is to be r.� outside speaker usage.
7. Dense privacy scr�i.rlg as approved. by sta.ff to be insta.11ed along the
- west property line by May 15, 1989.
8. The petitioner is to submit a storm drairrage plan for staff approval
- prior to the City Council meeting.
9. A Perforniar,ce Borx3 or Letter of Credit to be submitted. to the City of
Fridl�r for 3� of the buildir� corystruction value prior to the issuance
of a buildir�g pennit.
10. The west wall of the building to be architecturally the same as the
other three walls of the buildirx,�.
� 11. Site lir� studies to be dons to nrake sure that all mechanical equipment
on the moftop is screened fn�an the a�xirtment c�nplex.
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PLAN[�T]NG CANIl�lISSIDN NN�EETIlVG, JULY 27, 1988
� U1�N A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIl�TG AYE, Ci3AIRPERSON BEILQLD DEf�,AFtED THE 1�TION
C�RR� UNANIl�DUSLY.
Mr. Betzold stated this it�n would go to City Council on August 8.
2. PUBLIC HEARIlVGn CJONSIl�ERATION OF A SPECrAL USE PERMIT, SP #88-09, BY
ORI'HODOX Q3URCEI OF TI� RESURRECTItJN OF C[Il�IST:
Per Section 205.05.04 of the Frid1Ey City Code to alla�a a church, parsorage,
bell tvwer and religious book store in an S-1, Hyde Park Neighborhood.,
zoning district on Lots 27 ar�d 28, Block 12, Hyde Park, the same being 5973
- 3rd Street N. E.
NDTIDN by Mr. KoIIC�Y'lck, sec�nded by Nls. Sherek, to waive the reading of the
fonnal publi� hearirng mtice and to ap�n t1�.e public hearing.
U1�N A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOT71�iG AYE, Q3AIRPERSON BE'IZQLD DECLARED THE 1vDTION
[�RRI'F'.f) ��USLY �ND THE PC�LIC HFARTTY'� OPEN AT 9:57 P.M.
Ms. C�stle stated thi.s property was located on 3rd Street, south of 60th
Ave.r�ue and mrth of 59th Avetnie. It was located in an S-1, Special Distri.ct
or Hyde Park District. Churches in S-1 districts were regulated by CR-1,
ger�ral office district regu].ations. She stated t11e buildirig was currently
existng arx3 was the fo�ner Enere� S�i�.
Ms. C�stle stated the petitioner was proposing to exp�a,r�d the building by
� ac7ciir� an entryway on the west side of t1�.e buil.dirx� and an apse on the ea.st
side of the bu.ildir�. The proposed �rkirx� lot cloes encroach about 5 f eet
onto city property, Lot 29. This has been cavered by a variance. One of
the stipulations staff was-rec�anerr7.i.r�g was that the petitioner lease this
portion of the property frc�n the cii.y.
Ms. C'astle revicved the floor plan.
Mr. Vladimir Chavhavskoy, t�,e arcY�.itect for the proj ect, stated there was
ap�mxi.n�ately 2,000 sq. ft. of buildirng area. One-half of that would be for
sarict�zy, and one-hal� wauld be for adjoinirr�g uses--book store, parsonage,
and bathrocgn facilities.
Ms. Castle stated the building would be concrete block and stucco. She
stated the petitioner has applied for s�rera]. variar�es. Those consist of
building variances and hard surface setback variances. The Appeals
Ca�¢nission appzoved all the variances except the variar�e allaniing the bell
tvwer in the f�nt yazd.. The City Cod.e does mt allanr accessozy uses in the
fmnt yaxd, only in the rear and side yard. The Appeals Commission did
d.iscuss the use of the Uni.versity Avernie sli�-off. Right mw, it is on Lot
29 and 20 which is avr� by the City.
Mr. Barr� stated two neighl�rs in attendance at the Appeals C�ission
meeting on July 19 agreed that the sl ip-of f should be closed. No one in
attendar�e at the meetirig had any obj ection to the use of the btuldirx,� for a
� churGh.
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PLAI�TIl� �1�Il�lISSIfJN MEETIl�G, JULY 27, 1988
'�i Mr. Robertson stated apparently the slig-off has a long histozy that goes
back to the time when there were quite a few businesses on 3�. Street. At
the time of the widening of University Avenue, that was a compromi�e to
retain access to those busir.�sses on 3�d. Street. Subsequently, there has
been a c�ange in cii,y policy to retain Hyde Park as a residernttial district.
Many of those busir�esses have been replaced by residences so the need for
the sliIroff has been reduced. Also, it should be pointed out that the
City plans the �jor renovati�n and upgzadir� of Universii.y Avenue in this
section. TYu.s is the urlaan ol.�ionstration corridor tY�at will take place rnxt
spring, - so if the City were to abandon the sl ip-of f, the timing would be
appropri.ate to make a r�ecca�anerndation to the City Council n�ow so that could
be acc�anplished r.�ext sprir�.
Ms. Castle stated staff was reco�nending approval with the following
stipulations:
1. Parking situation to be reviewed in two years to detexmine adequacy of
existir� lot.
2. The church be11 shall be only rung at the beginning of ea.ch mass on
- Sur�c7ay.
3. R�use of this building by a d.ifferent chum�. is required to apply for a
specia7. use pennit.
� 4. A portion of Lot 29, approxin�ately 1, 604 square feet is being leased
- f x�n the City at $1. 00 .
5. Lar�dscaping to be installed as per plan by July 1, 1989.
6. A perfornnance borrl or letter of credi.t for 3� of the construction value
- be given to the City prior to issuance of the buildir� pernnit.
7. Install six inch. cor�rete curbing around the entire perimeter of the
�rking lot includirx� driv�saay apeni.rig by Navember 1, 1988.
8. Parking lot to be sealcoated and striped (eight spaces) by November 1,
1988.
9. Posts are to be renwed upon installation of lar�dscapir�g (July 1, 1989) .
10. Petitioner to maintain site immedi..ately by cutting grass ar�d elimirating
weeols.
Father John Magraam stated t1�at rngardir� stipulation #1, he was wondering
if there was any connection between the two year review ar�7. the amount of
time they would be given to l�se Lot 29 for the �rkir�.
Ms. Sherek stated that was a pertir�nt question, bccause if the sl ip-of f is
closed, the City w�11 have to vacate the property and Lots 29 and 30 are
�,., going to becxxne available for purchase. If th,ey are r.�t pum�ased b�, Father
John's ch�urch, fihen someone else could purchase them and build a single
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n family hane there. So, Father John would have to consider that if that
sliIroff frrm Uni.versity Aver�ue was closed, in order to retain the parking
on Lot 29, his chuxrdz might Y�ave to purchase either Lot 29 or both Lots 29
and 3 0 f�xn the City.
Father John stated. that in the event they would not be able to reach an
agreanent with the City to either l�se or purchase property for parking,
then they would be agair�sst havirx,� the sliiroff closed.
Father John stated. that regarding stipulation #2, he would suggest the
wording be changed that the church bells be rung only for sezvices and.
special occa.sions. 'I'hey do have more than one sezvice on a Sur�c7ay, and they
do have sezvices scanetimes on a Saturday, perhaps twice a month.
Father Jahn stated that regazdirag stipulation #4, he was askir� tlze City to
consider a 10 y�r l�se for �rking. The pre�riou.s petitioner was given 3
years. -
Mr. Betzold stated t.�ie Caa¢nisaion could certainly recc�ranend that amount of
t.ime to the City Council, and then that could be negotiated with the City
Council.
Father Jahn stated that he questioned. Nov. 1, 1989, in stipulation #8 for
the d.�,adlir� for the sealc�ating and strtping for the parking lot. They
will be closirig on the property in Septenber, arxl that might not give them
i"'� emugh tiune. Could tY�.t deadlir.� be extended?
Mr. Betzold stated that if the petitioner had problems meeting that
deadlir�, he could request that the City Courncil extend the deadlir�.
Mr. Dahlberg asked what the furiction of the parsorrage would be.
Father John stated it would be living quarters for either himself or a
sister. They currently have a priest's residence in FridlEy, so this would
be additior�al livirlg quarters.
Mr. Chahwskqr stated that appzroximately one-fourth of the buildir� (approx.
250 sq. ft. ) wauld be the �rsorage ar�.
1�TIDN 1� Mr. Saba, secor�led by ivls. Sh.erek, to close the public hearing.
U1�N A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIl� AYE, (�JAIRpEgSpN BEIZQLD DECLARID THE P[]BLIC
HEARIl� G�,OSID AT 10 :47 P. N!.
Mr. Barra stated he wanted to again point out that the neighbors at the
Ag�eals CaYanission meeting se�ned quite ha,ppi� with the proposal arrl were mt
opposed to the churc.h.
Mr. Saba stated. he had rn pmblens with the prnposal. It seened liJce a good
plan for the use of a currently uriused. facility. He would be in favor of
� �tc�¢nendi� appx�aval of the special use perntit.-
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PLAl�TIl� �PMRISSmN MEE'PIlvG, JULY 27, 1988
� Mr. Dahlberg stated he had on,e major concern about the proj ect as proposed
with respect to the building functionir� also as a place of residence for a
priest or a sister. He thoug3�.t it was lackir.� f�n the standpoint of what
th�r mi�t classify as a minim�un zequirenent for Yvousing of an ir�lividual.
City ordirar�e ir�di..cates that the s�anal.lest all�aable sqUare footage for a
resider�ce in a multiple clvvelling district (the least restrictive) was 425
sq. ft. In an 1�1 district, that would be 768 sq. ft. He personally felt
that portion of the building that was going to be -util iz ed f or a residence
should be se�rated. f�n the rest of the use of th.e buildir� arrl should meet
t�he minimiun standards (425 sq. f t. , or arly other siz e the Planning
Cc�enission or City Council deene�. appropriate) . Just frcan the standpoint of
the organization and the layout of the px�ject; he did not fe�1 comfortable
that it m�ets minimtun standaxds or minim�un rec��u.irenents.
Mr. Rabertson sta.ted he could ask for a deteaxniration from Darne]. Qark, the
Chief Building Off icial. There is a kitchen area and a bathrooRn area
adjacent to the sleeping- room. When a facility is pravided in a large
building for a watchperson, �for example, he did not know how that
dete�nirstion was made.
Mr. Barra stated Mr. Glark did r�t se�n to have a p�nblen with this, arid he
dici mt either, f� the standpoint that the entire 2, 000 sq. ft. was the
resider�e aml more than meets the 1�-1 code. - -
Mr. Dahlberg stated. he did not think the issue was that this was a
^ re�idence. This is mt a residence. They are app�vir�g a charlge in use for
this buildir� to a church. They are mt sayir�q tlzi.s is a residence t1�t can
be used as a chur�ch. If they are going have multiple uses within a given
structure, then there should be a def inite separation between those uses.
Mr. Robertson stated that was an interpreta.tion of the �uilding Code that
would have to be made, and he would bring this question to Darrel Clark,
Chief Building Official and staff representative to the Appeals Ca�anission.
Ms. 5'herek stated there needed to be an opinion before this goes to City
Cotulcil.
Mr. �hlberg stated there must be a detea�ni.ration and an opimn rendered by
staff relative to the buildirx,� code as well as the city ordirace.
NDTIDN by Mr. Dahlberg. seconded by Ms. Sherek. to recc�anerrl to City Council
aPPr�val of special use pennit, SP #85-09, by the Orthodox Church of the
Resurrection of Christ, per Section 205.05.04 of the Fridley City Code to
a11av a church, �arsonage, bell taver, and- religious book store in an S-1,
Hyde Park Nei�borhood, zoning district on Lots 27 arnd 28, Block 12, Hyde
Park, the same being 5973 - 3rd Streete N. E. , with the following
stipulations: -
1. Parking situation ta be reviewed in two years to deternnine adequacy of
- existirig lot.
^ 2. The chumh beZls shall be rung only for sezvices.
3• Reuse of thi.s build.ing by a different chumh is required. to apply for a
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� special utse �mm; t.
4. A portion of Lot 29, approxi.mately 1,604 square feet, is being leased.
- fx�n the City at $1.00 per year as long as the special use pexmit is in
effect. -
5. Lar�dscaping to be installed as per plan by July 1, 1989.
6. A perfonnance borrl or letter of credit for 3� of th.e construction value
be given to the City prior to issuance of the buildirx� pernlit.
7. Install six inch cor�rete curbing arourid the entire perimeter of the
-�rkirx� lot includi.ng dri�avay opening by Navenber 1, 1988.
8. Parking lot to be sealcoated and striped (eight s�aaces) by November 1,
- 1988.
9. Posts are to be renwed. upon ir�stallation of landscapir.�g (July 1, 1989 ).
10. Petitioner to ma.intain site ia¢n.ediately, upon the closing on the
property, by cuttir� grass arxl eliminatirig weeds.
11. If this facility is to be used also as a residence, it should meet the
- aPPmPriate minimtun cod.es, ordi.rar�es, a.r�d atarr]ards.
UI�N A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIl�IG AYE, Q�'AIRPER50N BE]�QLD DE(3�A�ZID THE 1�TION
C�RR� UNANIl�DUSLY.
NDT�N by Mr. Barna, seconded by Ms. Sherek, to reconaner�rl that the City
^ Council look�irito the possibility o� closing the slip-oft at University
Avernue/3zd Street between 59th and 60th Avenues.
U1�N A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIl� AYE, (I3AIRPERSON BEIZQLD DECLARID THE N10TION
C�iRIED UNANIl�DUSLY.
3. RECEIVE THE HUN�N RE.gOURCFS CDMMISSmN 6V�RKPLAN Ft�R 1988-89:
1+R�TIDN by Ms. Sherek, seconded by Mr. Saba, to receive tlze 1988-1989 Hiunan
Resources Ca�¢nission Workplan and reco�[¢nerrl app�aval to the City Cour�il.
UEaN A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIlVG AYE, C�TAIRpERSpN BIIZQLD DECLARID THE NDTION
CARRIED UNANINDUSLY.
4. RECENE N�Y 17, 1988, JOIl�Tt' IIWIl�1�N'LA,r QUALITY/II�RGY CDN�l.T,SSIDN MIlVUTFS:
N�YI'IDN by Ntr. Saba, secor�ded by Mr. Dahlberg, to receive the May 17, 1988,
Joirit Envirormental Q uality/Ener� - Curanission mirna.tes.
U1�N A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIl� AYE, Q3AIRpERS�pN BE'TZQLD DECLARID THE N�TION
C�RRIED UNANIl�DUSLY.
5. RECEIVE JZJNE 2, 1988, HI]N�N RF51pURCFS CpMMISSIDN MIlVUTFS:
NlDTIDN by Ms. Sherek, sec�rxied by Mr. Korx�lri.ck, to receive the June 2, 1988,
^ Htunan Resou�rCes Cat¢nission mirnutes. -
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^� U1�N A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIlVG AYE. CI�AIRPERSON BEIZOLD DECZyARID THE 1�TTlJN
�RIED UNANIl�USLY.
6. RF7CEIVE JUl� 6, 1988, PARKS & RECRFATIDN OJMMISSIDN MIlVUTES:
NDTIDN by Mr. Korrlrick, sec:onded by Ms. Sherek, to receive the June 6, 1988,
Parks & Recr�ation C�unission mirw.tes. �
U1�N A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIl�G AYE, Q�A��RgON BEIZQLD DECLARID TIiE 1�TION
C�RRIED UNANIl�DUSLY.
7. RECElVE J[7NE 9. 1988, I�USIl�1G & RIDFIJIIAPMEDTr AUTI�RITY MIlV['1TFS:
1�7I'IDN by Mr. Barra, secor�cled bY Ms. Sherek, to receive the June 9, 1988,
Housirig & Re��eloFanent Authority mirnutes.
U1�N A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIl� AYE, Q�AIRPERSON BIIZqLD DECLARED THE NDTION
C�,RRIED UNANIl�DUSLY.
8. RECEIVE JUNE 21, 1988, JOINT IIWIRDl�'SENTAL QUALITY/ENERGY COMMISSION
MIlV[PI'F5 :
1�TIDN by Mr. Saba, secorx3ed by Mr. Dahlberg', to receive the June 21, 19 8 8,
Joirit Envir��ental Quality/Erier�--Cce�¢nission minutes.
^ U1�N A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIlVG AYE, CH�PER�ON BIIZQLD DECLARID THE 1�TION
C�RRIED UNANIlvDUStiY.
9. RECEIVE J[JNE 28, 1988, APPEALS QJNJNlISSIDN MIlWTFS:
N.�t'IDN by Mr. Barra, seconded by Mr. Saba, to receive the June 28, 1988,
Appeals Car¢nission mirnztes. �
iJ�N A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIlVG AYE, Q�AIRPERSON BE�GGQLD DECLARID THE l�TION
C�RR7ED UNANIl�DUSLY.
10. RECEIVE J[�Y 19, 1988, APPEALS OJPM�ISSIDN MIl�[F!'ES:
N3�TIDN by Mr. Barna, seconded by Ms. Sherek, to receive the July 19, 1988,
Appeals Ca[¢n�ission mirnites. -
iT1�N A VOICE VOTE. ALL VOTING AYE. Q�AIIiPE�RSON BEIZQLD DECLARID THE 1�TION
f�� UNAN7NDUSZ,Y.
11. OTHER BUS Il�'.SS :
a. City Co�un�il Update
Mr. Robertson gave a report of the actions taken at the July 2 5 th Ci ty
Council �etirlg.
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� N..�'I7I'IDN by Mr. Kondrick, secorrled by Mr. Dahlberg, to adj ourn the meeting.
Upon a voice-vote, all voting aye, Cha�trpeerson Betzold declaxed the July 27;
1988, Planning Catanission meeting adjaurned at 11:08 p.m.
Respectfully sul�nitted,
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