PL 09/28/1988 - 30688r�
CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
SEPTEMBER 28, 1988
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Betzold called the September 28, 1988, Planning Commission meeting
to order at 7:33 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Alex Barna, Donald Betzold, Paul Dahlberg, David Kondrick,
Sue Sherek
Members Absent: Dean Saba
Others Present: Jock Robertson, Community Development Director
Kathlyn Castle, Planning Assistant
Pat Ringold, Northtown Nissan
Richard A. Gilbert, Gilbert Construction Co.
Jim Benson, Benson, Markenson & Bradbury, Inc.
^ APPROVAL OF SEPTEMBER Z4, 1988, PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Ms. Sherek, to approve the September 14,
1988, Planning commission minutes as written.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
l. CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP ��'88-13, BY JOHN KEPHART:
..... 1- 1H Per Section 205.15.1.C.2 of the Fridley City Code, to
allow automobile agencies selling or displaying new and/or used motor
vehicles, on part of Lot 2, Bock 3, East Ranch Estates Second Addition,
an addition to Northtown Nissan's existing inventory, the same being
7810 University Avenue N.E.
Ms. Castle indicated that Northtown Nissan is applying for a special use
permit to allow automobile agencies selling or displaying new and/or used
vehicles at`a location near University Avenue. This would be an _ _
expansion of their existing storage of vehicles outside.
On the Location Map, Ms. Castle described the location of Northtown Nissan
as being south of 79th, west of University, north of Osborne, and east of
Ranchers Road. Northtown Nissan would like to expand to an additional
parcel. The property is located in a C-3 district, general �
shopping district, which does allow autobomile agencies selling new and/or
n used motor vehicles by a special use permit and also allows outside storage
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as a special use. C-3 districts are located to the north, T. R. McCoy's
T"� and a shopping center, and to the south, vacant property. To the west is
an M-2 district which is heavy industrial. There is an industrial building
there now. To the east there is a C-3 district, the Pannekoeken Huis
Restaurant. Across the street, in the Citv of Sprin� Lake Park, there is office,
commercial, industrial, and R-5 multiple dwelling districts.
Ms. Castle reviewed the Site Plan showing the proposed expansion for the
storage of approximately 107 automobiles on the site which consists of
one acre. The plan shows the stripe at 9 feet by 18 feet which is used
for storing automobiles because they are not moved in and out daily. Ms.
Castle indicated that earlier today the petitioner had expressed a desire
to use some of this expansion space for employee overflow parking. There-
�ore, we would need to re-evaluate the plan and put in some 10 feet X
18 feet or 10 feet X ZO feet spaces. Landscaping is shown, has been
reviewed, and meets City Code. It provides screening as required. Along
the west edge of the site, several trees have been added along the drainage
ditch and also along the north end of the site.
Again referring to the Location Map, Ms. Castle indicated there is marked
a 30-foot street and utility easement which is the result of a lot split
in 1987. The purpose of the lot split was to gain access to the rear of
the parcels� located along the University Avenue service drive. The City
has obtained an access/egress easement from the property owner along the
area so that in the event the street easement is vacated, this property
would not be landlocked.
� Staff is recommending approval of the special use permit, SP ��88-13, which
would allow automobile agencies selling new and/or used cars on Lot 2,
Block 3, East Ranch Estates Second Addition, with the following stipulations:
1. Install landscaping as per City approved plan by September 23, 1989.
2. Install automatic irrigation by September 23, 1989.
3. Remove tires from northwest corner of lot.
4. All new and used cars must be stored on site (not on any adjacent
properties). '
S. The fee owner formally requests the City vacate the 30-foot street
easement on the site. The 30-foot utility easement would be retained.
6. Vehicles can not be displayed on the boulevard area between the
Northtown Nissan parking lot and University Avenue service drive.
Ms. Castle indicated that stipulation ��4 was included because in the pasi
it has been found that Northtown Nissan has stored vehicles in the T. R.
McCoy's parking lot.
Mr. Barna asked for clarification on stipulation ��4, what areas are included
when referring to "on site", and stipulation ��6, what areas are included
when referring to the "boulevard area."
Mr. Castle indicated that on site refers to the current Northtown Nissan
lot� plus the proposed expansion area. The boulevard area refers to the
sodded area located between the actual Northtown Nissan parking lot and the
service road.
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Mr. Dahlberg asked if the 30-foot easement as illustrated on the Site
,�"`1 Plan was entirely on the parcel or if it was split.
Ms. Castle indicated the easement is entirely on the parcel. Some of the
easement is on the parcel on which Northtown Nissan is currently located.
Mr. Dahlberg asked if all of the appropriate setbacks were met by the
proposed layout of the parking area.
Ms. Castle indicated that setbacks were met. A five-foot hard surface
setback from the side is required, which has been satisfied.
Mr. Dahlberg asked how the drainage system had been planned for the
expansion site.
Mr. Kondrick stated the drainage appeared to go toward the west edge of
the property.
Ms. Castle indicated that the Public Works Department had approved the
drainage plan.
Mr. Dahlberg indicated that the proposed expansion area appeared to be
much lower than the existing site, perhaps 3 to 4 feet up to 5 feet in
some areas. He asked if this area would have fill brought in to bring it
up to the level of the existing parking lot.
� Mr. Robertson indicated that the expansion area would be raised only at
the entrance.
Mr. Kondrick asked if there was any chance that the entire lot would be
under water if there were a lot of rain.
Mr. Ringold, Northtown Nissan, presented to the commission a plan for the
proposed site which included a ponding area.
Mr. Dahlberg asked if the proposed outlet and control structure would be
tied into the storm sewer lines.
Mr. Ringold stated this was correct, as the water depth reaches a certain
level.
Mr. Ringold noted that the original request was for new and used cars only,
but now they wish to use part of the expansion area for employee parking
also. On the plan he provided, the drawing has been changed to the required
10-foot on center parking spaces to comply with City Code on three sides of
the perimeter, the north, west, and south.
Mr. Betzold asked the petitioner to reply to the stipulations as recommended
by staff .
Mr. Ringold indicated that stipulation ��1, installing landscaping with one
year was not a problem. Stipulation ��3, to remove tires, was also not a
� problem. In reply to stipulation ��4, Mr. Ringold indicated that some sales
staff had parked demonstration vehicles in the T. R. McCoy's parking lot,
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who are also restaurant patrons, and these persons have been asked not
� to park in that lot in the future. Stipulation ��5 is not a problem.
Stipulation ��6 should not be a problem. An agressive display person had
displayed a vehicle on the boulevard, but has been instructed not to do
so in the future.
Mr. Ringold had concerns with stipulation ��2 regarding the irrigation
system. Northtown Nissan currently has an existing sprinkling system.
With trees being added on the east, west and north sides, the irrigation
can be handled by extending the current system. However, on the south,
there exists a mulchy, weedy area with no landscaping, and Mr. Ringold
questionned the necessity of having irrigation in that area. The proposal
is to attach to the current irrigation system to handle the east, west
and north sides. There will be some trees on the south.
Mr. Benson indicated that the current system is capable of irrigating
the east, west, and north sides of the property. The need for irrigation
near a ponding area is questionnable. To irrigate that portion of the
property would require adding extra irrigation lines and would require
cutting up the parking lot in order to do so. Until this area is fully
developed, the petitioner is asking not to have to do heavy landscaping
at this time. It would be better to keep the system operating at the
landscaped sides rather than the back side.
Ms. Castle indicated this would be acceptable to staff.
Mr. Dahlberg expressed concern about maintaining the landscape treatment.
^ There are several trees proposed for this area and recommended that there
be some means to water those trees when needed.
Mr. Ringold stated that the sprinkling system had gone down for several
weeks. During that time, watering was done by their commercial sprayer
that is used to wash cars. This could again be put into use for watering
the trees as needed.
MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Ms. Sherek, to recommend to City
Council approval of a Special Use Permit, SP ��88-13, by John Kephart,
.... 1- 1H Per Section 205.15.1.C.2 of the Fridley City Code, to allow
automobile agencies selling or displaying new and/or used motor vehicles,
on part of Lot 2, Block 3, East Ranch Estates Second Addition, an addition
to Northtown Nissan's existing inventory, the same being 7810 University
Avenue N.E., with the following stipulations: 1) Install landscaping as
per City approved plan by September 23, 1989; 2) Install automatic irrigation
by September 23, 1989 (with the exception of the south side); 3) Remove tires
from northwest corner of lot; 4) All new and used cars must be stored on
site (not on any adjacent properties); 5) The fee owner formally requests
the City vacate the 30-foot street easement on the site. The 30-foot
utility easement would be retained; and 6) Vehicles can not be displayed
on the boulevard area between the Northtown Nissan parking lot and the
University Avenue service drive.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED THE MOTION
/� CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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Mr. Betzold indicated that this item would be before the City Council on
�.., Monday, October 3rd.
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2. RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 20, 1988
MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Kondrick, to receive the minutes of
the September 20, 1988, Appeals Commission meeting.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3. OTHER BUSINESS
Mr. Dahlberg requested staff to include in the agenda packets the most
current information available. If materials have changes or revisions, then
please be sure to inform the commission members of changes so they are
aware.
Mr. Robertson indicated that staff attempts to provide the most current
information available. In the particular case reviewed this evening, the
request for revision was made in the morning of the day of the meeting and
could not be included.
Ms. Sherek indicated that petitioners sometimes seem surprised that the
commission wants to know details. Petitioners should be informed to
expect questions.
� ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Mr. Barna to adjourn the meeting.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE SEPTEMBER 28,
1988, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:05 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Lavonn Cooper
Recording Secretary
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