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City of Fridley
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 8, 1989 7:30 P.M.
LOCATION: COMMUNITY EDUCATION CENTER, 6085 - 7TH STREET N.E.
CALL TO ORDER•
ROLL CALL:
APPROVE PLANNING CONIlKISSION MINUTES: January 25, 1989
February 1, 1989 (At Meeting)
DISCUSSION OF LIGHT RAIL TRANSIT:
* Please bring the material received at the February
1, 1989 meeting.
RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT
AUTHORITY MEETING OF JANUARY 12. 1989
RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE JOINT ENVIRONMENTAL OUALITY
COMMISSION/ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING OF JANUARY 17, 1989
OTHER BUSINESS•
ADJOURNMENT
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
pLANNIN(3 COMMI68ION MEETING, JANUARY 25, 1989
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CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Betzold called the January 25, 1989, Planning
Commission meeting to order at 7:35 p.m.
�tOLL CALL •
Members Present: Donald Betzold, Dave Kondrick, Sue Sherek,
Alex Barna, Paul Dahlberg
Members Absent: Dean Saba
Others Present: Barbara Dacy, Planning Coordinator
Kathlyn Castle, Planning Assistant
David Hanson, API Supply Co.
Mr. & Mrs. William Shields, 1300 Skywood Ct. N.E.
APPROVAL OF JANUARY 11 1989 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Ms. Sherek, to approve the
January 11, 1989, Planning Commission minutes.
Mr. Betzold stated that on page 9, first paragraph, line 4, the
words, "U.S. Supreme Court" should be changed to "Minnesota Supreme
Court".
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIN(3 AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY AND T8B MINIITEB APPItOVED AS AMENDED.
1. PUBLIC HEARING• CONSIDERATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT. P.S. #88-03,
GLACIER PARK COMPANY ADDITION, BY API SUPPLY COMPANY:
Being a replat of that portion of Lot 3, Auditor's Subdivision No.
79, generally located at 5110 Main Street N.E.
MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Mr. Barna, to open the public
hearing�.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE � ALL VOTING AYE � CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIBD IINANIM008LY AND THE PIIBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 7:36 P.M.
Ms. Castle stated this property is located west of Main Street and
east of the Burlington Northern Railroad tracks.
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Ms. Castle stated the replat being requested is necessary for the
petitioner, API Supply Co., to mortgage their building. This
property was recently sold to Glacier Park Co. from Burlington
ldorthern, and the API Supply building is located on the northern
part of this plat. API will lease their lot from Glacier Park.
Ms..Castle stated the property is zoned heavy industrial as is the
property to the north, south, and west. To the east lies a single
family residential district.
Ms. Castle stated the preliminary plat divides the property into
two lots--Lot 1 and Lot 2. Lot 1 contains 11 acres and is the lot
which contains the API building. Lot 2 contains 7.5 acres and is
currently vacant.
Ms. Castle stated staff is requesting the property owner, Glacier
Park Company, to dedicate a bikeway/walkway easement over the
eastern part of the plat. This portion of Main Street is part of
the City's bikeway/walkway corridor.
Ms. Castle stated staff recommends approval of the preliminary plat
with the following two stipulations:
1. A park fee for Lot 2 be paid at the time a building
permit is issued.
2. A bikeway/walkway easement be dedicated to the City and
. recorded by August 15, 1989.
Mr. Kondrick asked if staff had received any calls or letters from
neighbors in the area regarding this request.
Ms. Dacy stated she has spoken to three persons. Their main
concern was whe�her or not API is expanding its operation. When
she explained the purpose of API's request, there seemed to be no
objection.
Mr. Barna asked what the lot coverage is for Lot 1.
Mr. Dahlberg stated the staff report indicates a 16� lot coverage
on Lot 1, but he believed it is closer to 40�a.
Ms. Castle stated the 16� mentioned in the staff report is an
error. When she went through the regulations in reviewing this
application, the lot coverage was not over 40�.
Ms. Dacy stated the building dimensions are 240 ft. x 260 ft. for
a total of 153,600 sq. ft. without the office addition. That makes
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a 34.1$ lot coverage without the office addition.
Mr. Dahlberg stated the way the plat is proposed, if, in the
future, API decided to expand their building, it could potentially
put them over the 40� maximum lot coverage. He was suggesting that
API might want to increase the size of Lot 1. Then, if they should
decide to expand in the future, they would not have to worry about
coming to the City for any special consideration.
Mr. David Hanson, Controller for API Supply, stated that right now
there are no plans for expansion; however, he did not know what
could happen in the future. Glacier Park might be willing to sell
the property to API at some point in time, and that is a
consideration for the future. For now, in order not to delay
things, he would like to proceed with the plat as requested.
Mr. Betzold stated the Planning Commission will be making a
recommendation to the City Council. If, before the Council
meeting, the petitioner decides they want the opportunity to
expand, they should let staff know so things can be adjusted before
the City Council meeting.
Mr. Hanson stated the main concern right now is they want some long
term financing on the building, and the title company will not
issue insurance until the property is subdivided.
Mr. Hanson stated the stipulation regarding the park fee affects
Glacier Park as the fee owner of th'e property. They were agreeable
to the stipulation regarding the bikeway/walkway easement; however,
they do have a fence along there and would be concerned about
having to remove the fence. The surveyor estimated about 9 ft. is
available, and the City is requesting 10 ft. Would they have to
remove the fence?
Mr. Betzold stated the easement will always be there; and if at
some point in time, the area where the fence is located is needed
for the bikeway/walkway, then, yes, the fence would have to be
removed.
Ms. Dacy stated it depended on the final plans for the
bikeway/walkway construction which have not been prepared. She
stated City staff would work with API to trg� to resolve this issue.
OTION by Ms. Sherek, seconded by Mr. Kondrick, to close the public
hearing.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE � CBAIRPERSON BBTZOLD DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIIBLY AND 9.'HE PIIBLIC HEARING CLOBBD AT 7t55
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access to Mr. Shields' house on the northern lot. Because of that,
staff is requesting a driveway easement be retained over the
portion of the lot to maintain access to the house. This driveway
is currently gravel, and City Code requires all driveways to be
hard surfaced.
Mr.�Betzold stated he has found from experience with variances on
the Appeals Commission that the hard surface driveway is
stipulated, but the variance is filed and approved and the
petitioner never does get around to resurfacing the driveway. Is
there any way to make sure the driveway is hard surfaced?
Ms. Castle stated staff has attached a deadline date to the
stipulation of August 15, 1989. If Mr. Shields does not install
the hard surface driveway by that date, the Code Enforcement
Officer will work with him to get it done. If there continues to
be a problem, the City can issue a violation citation.
Ms . Dacy stated another option would be to have the petitioner post
a performance bond or letter of credit; however, she would not like
to do that for such a small improvement.
Ms. Castle stated staff is recommending approval of the lot split
with the following four stipulations:
1. A driveway easement over that portion of the south lot
shall be executed prior to the sale of the property.
2. The existing gravel driveway on tha north shall be hard
surfaced by August 15, 1989.
3. A park fee of $750.00 (or current rate) shall be paid at
the time of the building permit.
4. A future house on the southerly lot shall be connected
to City utilities.
Mr: Shields stated he has every intention of hard surfacing his
driveway. The reason he had not hard surfaced it before was
because he was not sure about the exact lot line and it was all his
property anyway. As far as the driveway easement (stipulation #1),
it is his intention to straighten the driveway out and have it only
on the northern lot. He also believed he would need to have an
easement on his property to connect sewer to the new lot. Before
selling or building on the new lot, everything would be done. At
this time, however, he had no intentions of selling the lot.
Ms. Dacy stated the City Engineering Department could work with Mr.
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Shields on the locations of the utilities.
OTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Ms. Sherek, to recommend to City
Council approval of lot split, L.S. #88-07, by William Shields, to
create a separate parcel from Auditor's Subdivision No. 94 to be
described as the south 140.00 feet of the west 150.00 feet of Lot
7, subdivision of Lot 10, except the west 75.00 feet thereof,
generally located at 1300 Skywood Court N.E., with the following
stipulations:
1. The existing gravel driveway shall be relocated on the
northern lot and hard surfaced by August 15, 1989.
2. A park fee of $750.00 (or current rate) shall be paid at
the time �f the building permit.
3. A future house on the southerly lot shall be connected
to City utilities.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING l�YE, CHAIRPER80N BBTZOLD DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY.
3. RECEIVE JANUARY 6. 1989. PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Mr. Dahlberg, to receive the
Jan. 6, 1989, Parks & Recreation Commission minutes.
IIPON A VOICS �OTE, 1�L �OTING AYE, CHAIRPERBON BETZOLD DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED ONANIMOIISLY.
4. RECEIVE JANUARY 5, 1989. HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Ms. Sherek, seconded by Mr. Dahlberg,to receive the Jan.
5, 1989, Human Resources Commission minutes.
Mr. Betzold stated he was upset and disgusted when he read the
comments made by Mr. van Dan under "Other Old Business" on pages
7-9 of the minutes. Iie stated Sue Sherek has been an invaluable
member of the Planning Commission. She has been elected as the
Chairperson of the Human Resources Commission for the past three
years by her peers. If she does not conduct the meetings to �ir.
van Dan's satisfaction, then Mr. van Dan should be the one to
resign.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE � ALL VOTING AYE � CHAIRPERBON BETZOLD DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED IINANIMODBLY.
ADJOURNMENT:
OTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by I�ir. Dahlberg, to adjourn the
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meeting. Upon a voice
declared the January
adjourned at 8:55 p.m.
Re ectfully submitted,
Ly e Saba
Recording Secretary
vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Betzold
25, 1989, Planning Commission meeting
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PLANNING DI�iSION
MEMORANDUM�
February 3, 1989,, �
Planning Commission Members
Barbara Dacy, Planning Coordinator
Light Rail Transit
At the Planning Commission's special meeting on February 1, 1989,
the Planning Commission began to discuss some of the issues
regarding the proposed LRT route and station locations. The
Planning Commission wanted to discuss these issues further and
poteritially formalize discussion into a recommendation for the
City�s representatives on Anoka County LRT Committees.
The following is a summarize of characteristics of the commuter and
urban route:
URBAN
l. The proposed urban stations at
81st Avenue, Osborne Road,
Mississippi Street, 57th Avenue
and 53rd Avenue are all at major
intersections where significant
commercial or industrial
time development exists, thereby
providing access to shopping
centers or work locations.
COMMUTER
1. Constructing only commuter
stations at key points
along the route, such as
Columbia Arena,Mississippi
Street and 57th Avenue
would decrease travel
to points south.
2. The number and variety of urban 2.
stations would provide a maximum
amount o� access for Fridley
residents wanting to travel to
Northtown or other locations in
Fridley or to downtown
; l�inneapolis.
These stations would also
provide urban service to
those wantinq to make local
trips.
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February 3, 1989
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3. Studies in other cities in the
nation having an LRT system show
that the LRT system tends to
increase the retail sales per
square foot for existing
commercial developments. This
would provide a positive
economic impact to Center City
project and 57th Place project.
4. Because of the crossover option
along I-694 to Central Avenue, a
station at Lakepointe Center
could also serve that develop-
ment as well as the neighborhood
around it.
5. More urban stations, however,
would increase travel time to
downtown Minneapolis which may
discourage those employees
needing to get downtown quickly.
3. The commuter station at
Columbia Arena has a
disadvantage that it does
not have good east/west
access to points east in.
Fridley (traffic would have
to use University Avenue
to access the site).
There was discussion at the last meeting regarding the amount of
riders using the LRT from points south to Fridley or Northtown.
The consultant�advises that approximately 200 of the riders will
use the system for these types of trips. The Northtown Mall can
attract riders from Fridley or Columbia Heights. The consultant
also r�otes that once shopping or personal trips are tried by the
ridership, their popularity can increase.
Also, the Commission discussed proposing only three stations. The
remaining urban stations possible are at 81st Avenue and Osborne
Road. The old Cub Foods site at Osborne Road is being investigated
for reuse for a movie theater and shopping center. A station at
Osborne Road could serve the employees of the industrial buildings
nearby as well as the residential neighborhood to the east.
At 81st Avenue, several commercial and industrial buildings exist
and several vacant development parcels are available. Staff has
been contacted by First Western Development to rezone the parcel
in the southwest corner of 85th Avenue for a shopping center. The
YMCA facility would consequently shift to the south toward the
Hyundai property. Residents at Springbrook Apartments could use
this station, as well as the multi-family residents on the east
side of University Avenue in Spring Lake Park.
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February 3, 1989
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A station site should also be evaluated at the Lakepointe site, ii
a I-694 crossover is feasible. Although not proposed at this time,
the consultant has advised that such a feasibility analysis can
occur now (the HRA will also discuss this issue).
The consultant has advised that it is more cost effective to design
for the stations now during the overall system design process in
order that property can be acquired and the specific design issues
for stations can be addressed. Additional stations in the future
may not be possible due to cost or land availability issues.
RECONIIKENDATION
Staff recommends the Planning Commission recommend the urban
service philosophy with stations at 81st Avenue, Osborne Road,
Columbia Arena, Mississippi Street and 57th Avenue. Further, a
station should be evaluated at the Lakepointe site. Along Highway
65, a station at 53rd Avenue is also recommended. Should the I-
694 crossover not be feasible, the Planning Commission should
evaluate station locations along Highway 65 to 73rd Avenue.
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CITY OF FRIDLSY
HOIIBINa i� REDEVBLOPMENT AIITHORITY MEETING, JANIIARY 12, 1989
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CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Commers called the January 12, 1989, Housing &
Redevelopment Authority meeting to order at 7:24 p.m.
ROLL CALL• .
Members Present: Larry Commers, Virginia Schnabel, Duane Prairie,
John Meyer,
Members Absent: Walter Rasmussen
Others Present: Jock Robertson, Executive Di•rector to HRA
Dave Newman, HRA Attorney
William Burns, City Manager & Director of HRA
APPROVAL OF DECEMBER 8. 1988, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
MINUTES•
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Prairie, to approve the
December 8, 1989, Housing & Redevelopment Authority minutes as
written.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON COMMERS DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
The following item was added to the agenda: Consideration of
Modification of Mortgage and Subordination Agreement for the
Fridley Plaza Office Building.
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Prairie, to approve the
agenda with the above addition.
1, INFORMATION ON TANURB PROPOSAL FOR SOUTHWEST CORNER OF UNIVERSITY
AVENUE AND MISSISSIPPPI STREET:
Mr. Robertson stated staff had two meetings with representatives
from the Tanurb Development Corporation in December. The Tanurb
company is a subsidiary of a Canadian-based company called Dylex
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Limited. Tanurb's initial proposal was for a 90,000-100,000 sq.
ft. retail strip center, with major anchor tenants specializing in
apparel. In the first meeting, they determined there was a
shortfall in the area of about $2 million. Staff has had some
subsequent discussions with a financial consultant brought in by
Tanurb's local attorney, Tom Borman. They are now closer to a
feasible project than they were before. The way it would work
would be that there would be a second phase which would add more
value to the property. He stated staff received a telephone call
that morning from Tanurb's attorney saying Tanurb is very
interested in the two staqe proposal proposed by the local
consultant. They want to meet with staff on Monday afternoon at
4:00 p.m., and staff has agreed to that meeting. Tanurb will have
to put together a proforma which Jim Casserly will review. Then,
if they get a feasibility study, staff will bring that back to the
HRA.
Mr. Robertson stated as part of the information handed out at the
meeting, he had included a memo to the HRA from himself dated
January 12, 1989, in which he had outlined the financial structure
(taken from Jim Casserly's notes) and what staff sees as four
policy issues that would be involved in it.
Mr. Burns stated the City has been led to believe that Tanurb is
a very reputable developer and that this project is much more
realistic than others that have been proposed for this site in the
past. Therefore, there is some incentive on the part of the City
to try to make this work. Staff also needs to know that the HRA
is behind the concept.
Mr. Prairie stated
,development go, but
only half full..
he thought the HRA would like to have this
they also do not want a retail center that is
Mr. Commers stated this developer looks like it has the strength,
and it looks like it is the best and strongest developer they have
had for this site. He would think the HRA would be very anxious
to work with the developer if they can. However, everyone should
keep in mind that he was a little concerned that they would be
working without securites which provides a risk the HRA has never
borne before.
2. xNFORMATION ON TAX INCREMENT FINANCING RETURNED TO SCHOOLS:
Mr. Robertson stated the City Manaqer and the Mayor have asked that
this item be tabled until a joint HRA/City Council meeting on
Monday, January 30, 1989. The City Council would like to consider
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getting some additional information and perhaps a second legal
opinion.
Mr. Commers stated that as he had expressed in a letter to staff,
he thought the HRA should try to do everything they can to get some
assistance back to the school districts. However, he was not sure
whether there was any jeopardy from a financial point of view on
the bond issues. If the HRA does do anything, they should review
it on an annual basis. He had some hesitancy to make a commitment
of $104,000 back per year for several years.
Mr. Burns stated part of the reason why this was being continued
until January 30th was because of the concern Mr. Commers had
raised about the financial issue. Mr. Burns stated he felt it was
appropriate to delay a decision until they have a chance to do a
financial review. He proposed to have a very thorough financial
review of the HRA's financial situation at that meeting. He also
proposed to present an overview of the four major projects the HRA
is currently working on in 1989 so the City Council and HRA can see
the financial impact of these projects. The other issues are legal
issues, and it was his recommendation to seek a second legal
opinion. Hopefully, that opinion will be available for the January
30th meeting also.
The HRA members were in agreement to continue this item until the
joint HRA/City Council meeting on January 30, 1989.
3. CONSIDERATION OF AUTHORIZING SPECIFICATIONS AND BIDS FOR LAKE
POINTE MAINTENANCE:
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Meyer, to authorize staff
to put out the specifications and bids for a maintenance contract
for Lake Pointe for the 1989 season.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE � ALL VOTING AYB, CBAZRPERSON COI�lERB DECLARED T8E
MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY.
4. CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING OFF'ICIAL DEPOSITORIES FOR
THE FRIDLEY HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY:
OTION by Mr. Prairie, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, to approve
Resolution No. HRA 1- 1989, a"Resolution Designating Official
Depositories for the Fridley Housing & Redevelopment Authority".
Mr. Commers stated he just wanted to again say for the record that
the City and HRA still do not get a lot of cooperation from
Fridley State Bank. He was still particularly irritated by the
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fact that the Bank did not cooperate with the City in the exchange
of property a few years ago.
Mr. Robertson stated this year the Bank did not cooperate with the
City in overflow parking during the construction of the parking
ramp.
O�N A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CBAIRPER80N COMMERB DECLARED T8E
MOTION CARRIED ONANIMOIISLY.
5. CONSIDERATION OF A DRAFT INVESTMENT POLICY FOR THE FRIDLEY HRA:
This item was continued until the next Iiousing & Redevelopment
Authority meeting.
6, INFORMATION ON BRICKNER PROPOSAL FOR CENTRAL AVENUE & 64TH AVENUE
N•E•
Mr. Burns stated the City Council has some concern about the
feelings of the neighborhood and has suggested that the developer
conduct a neighborhood meeting.
This item was continued until the next Housing & Redevelopment
Authority meeting.
7. CONSIDERATION OF MODIFICATION OF MORTGAGE AND SUBORDINATION
AGREEMENT FOR THE FRIDLEY PLAZA OFFICE BUILDING:
Mr. Newman stated Mr. Malmon called him in late December asking
about executing the Subordination Agreement. He told Mr. Malmon
that the HRA had authorized that in August 1988. In that telephone
conversation, Mr. Malmon asked him to have staff prepare a
calculation of the amount owing under the Second Mortgage. It was
Mr. Newman's recollection that it was two principle payments plus
the interest.
Mr. Newman stated he was surprised to receive a letter from Mr.
Malmon dated January 4, 1989, in which Mr. Malmon indicated a
request to roll the amount due back into the Second Mortgage.
Since this was a new request, Mr. Newman had told Mr. Malmon that
it would have to be acted on by the HRA.
Mr. Commers stated one thing that concerned him was a statement
made by Mr. Malmon in his January 4th letter: "We take the
position that this is not an obligation of the Partnership but
merely a non-recourse mortgage against the property, since there
is no promissory note involved in the transaction. Therefore, if
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in fact we do not close this transaction, Fridley will have to
foreclose on its second mortgage in order to collect."
Mr. Commers stated if the HRA does approve this, legal counsel
should write a letter to Mr. Malmon stating the HRA does not
necessarily agree with the legal issues.
Mr. Meyer stated he would be in favor of going along with the
proposal.
Mr. Commers suggested the HRA approve the transaction with the
assumption that the Partnership close on the property in January
1989. Otherwise, they could renegotiate and leave this open ended
until they find a buyer.
Mr. Newman agreed with the suggestion, but suggested 90 days in
case the Partnership runs into some problems.
The HRA members compromised on 60 days.
MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Meyer, to approve the
request by the Fridley Plaza Office Partnership to roll over the
balance amount of $12,617.69 into the Second Subordination Mortgage
on the Fridley Office Building for 60 days.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON COMMERB DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIIBLY.
8. CLAIMS:
Mr. Commers questioned the amount of rent billed to the HRA for the
office building in the amount of $3,209.56 for the month of
January.
Mr. Robertson stated he would get information on that for the next
meeting.
OTION by Mr. Prairie, seconded by Mr. Meyer, to approve the check
register and claims as presented.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPER80N COMMERB DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED DNANIMOIISLY.
,ADJOURNMENT•
OTION by Mr. Prairie, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, to adjourn the
meeting. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Commers
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declared the January 12, 1989, Housing & Redevelopment Authority
meeting adjourned at 8:45 p.m.
Respectfully subm' ted,
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Lynne aba
Recor ing Secretary
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
JOINT ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION/
ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING
JANUARY 17, 1989
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Dahlberg, Environmental Quality Commission (EQC), called the
January 17, 1989, Joint EQC/Energy Commission meeting to order at 7:40 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Bruce Bondow, Paul Dahlberg, Steve Stark, Richard Svanda
Members Absent: Dean Saba, Bradley Sielaff, Wayne Wellan
Others Present: Lisa Campbell, Planning Assistant
APPROVAL OF NOVEMBER 22, 1988, JOINT EQC/ENERGY COMMTSSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Svanda, seconded by Mr. Stark, to approve the November 22, 1988,
Joint EQC/Energy Commission minutes as written.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON DAHLBERG DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. NEW BUSINESS
a. Proposed Yard Waste Amendment
Ms. Campbell indicated that the proposed yard waste amendment comes as
the,result of the State amendment, made in 1988, to the Waste Management
Act of 198Q prohibiting qard waste from state landfills by 1990. Other
cities in the metro area have passed licensing requirements stating that
haulers must pick up yard waste on a seasonal basis. Ms. Campbell met
with the haulers in December and discussed the best method for implementing
this program. They recommended they be able to define when they pick up
so that the haulers can justify the service based on volume. We are
recommending that they pick up for 8 weeks in the spring and 8 weeks in
the fall. The'haulers ha.ve requested this be reduced to 6 weeks.
Woodlake Sanitary Service goes through an area and picks up garbage
first and then makes a second run to pick up the yard waste. They felt
that due to the increased volume the service was cost justified. They
also indicated that the costs are offset by lower tipping fees.
Ms. Campbell stated another concern is what the cost would be to the
residents to require this service. A survey was distributed to the
haulers and 5 responded. Of the 5, 2 haulers would provide the service
at no additional cost; Z would charge 25� per bag; and 1 would pick up
a total of 6 bags at no cost and then charge 50a for each additional
bag. These results show a reasonable cost.
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Mr. Dahlberg asked if there was a waq to control the costs. �
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Campbell indica�ed there was not and would not suggest that be
included. Based on discussions witfi the haulers, Ms. Campbell felt
there would be little opposition to the ordinance from them during
a public hearing. The ch�ges to application will include a detailed
description of: 1) tfie manner in which tfie applicant intends to
separately collect and haul away yard waste; 2) the manner in which
the applicant intends to accoUnt for the amount of such yard waste;
and, 3) the method by which tbe applicant will inform its customers
of the yard waste abated.
Ms. Campbell felt tfiis to fie an important amendmeat and recommended
approval. It wonld be a responsive act to State legislation and
would come at little or no cost to tFie residents. The compost site
and its operation could be discnssed in conjimctiam with the recommendation
for approval.
Mr. Dahlberg asked if the haulers would take yard waste to the Fridley
compost site.
Ms. Campbell indicated tliat haulers are required to take yard waste
to the Cotmty sites. TFiis �formation will be added for clarification.
The Anoka Cotmty sites are now- closed. Zhe closing date this year was
scheduled to �e November 4, but was extended to November 20.
Mr. Svanda asked wIiat other cities are doing.
Ms . Campbell indicated tfiat in Anoka County, Blaine is looking at a
contract with BFI, Columbia Heigfits is looking at making it a part of
their contract and will require an amendment to do so. Spring Lake Park
is looking at making it a part of a contract. A lot of cities in
Hennepin County fiave yard waste amendments on the books. The City of
Fridley is now ahead of many Anoka County communities that have an
open system.
Mr. Svanda asked what the City CoLmcil has expressed about the amend�nt.
Ms. Campbell stated that, in her opiinion, the City Council understands
the need for the amendment, but have cancerns about the cost to
residents. She thought .the Council generally supports the concept.
Ms. Campbell indicated that a public hearing could be established for
February 13, 1989, at the City Conncil meet ing on January 23, and asked
that a�ember of the Commission attend as a representative.
Mr. Dahlberg felt it important to offer residents the option to haul
yard waste to the Fridley site if their hauler charges for hauling.
There are also people who will not take it to the Fridleq site or do
anything.
Mr. Svanda indicated the ordinance does not address that part and felt
it could not.
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Ms. Campbell felt the issue could be addressed, but it would be
difficult to enforce.
Mr. Svanda indicated the ordinance could make it illegal to put
yard waste in with other solid waste.
Ms. Campbell indicated the ordinance does t�iat in the definition of
yard waste and it removes any words and other definitions included
in the definition of yard waste. Under 113.06. Refuse Disposal, it is
stated that"...leaves and grass clipptngs ma.y be stored on a person's
property for the purpose of recycling organic materials as a soil
conditioner." This allows for backyard composting which, however,
is not a change. Under 113.04. Yard Waste Containers, it states that
"Grass clippings and leaves, but not brush, wood waste and tree
trimmings may be placed in bags or bvndles...."
Mr. Svanda stated this was covered in the Waste Management Act starting
in 1990 that no �mprocessed solid waste can go to a landfill.
Mr. Bondow asked if that should be incorporated into the ordinance.
Mr. Dahlberg agreed, even if it is incorporated by reference.
Mr. Stark indicated that this again raises the question of enforcement,
Ms. Campbell indicated tha.t the enforcement would be up to the County.
The County now checks tfie loads.
Regarding 113.10. Refuse Haulers' Regulations, Ms. Campbell stated
the changes for License Requirements are as stated in the cover memo.
Under I�icense Procedures, 2, the period of 8 w�ks can be changed or
a recommendation given to the City Council.
Mr. Svanda indicated that tfie ordinance states haulers must pick up
yard waste for a period up to 8 weeks, rather than stating haulers
must pick up for 8 weeks.
Mr. Dahlberg asked if the fiaulers could then choose the dates for
picking up yard waste.
Mr. Stark asked why this was included in the ordinance. Doing so
prohibits the hauler from picking up qard waste throughout the
su�er if they choose to do so. He suggested the phrase "...for a
period not to exceed eight weeks..." read "...for a period not less
than eight weeks ".
Ms. Campbell stated the amotmt of time was included to follow a
precedent. She agreed with the change in wording.
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Mr. Bondow asked if the 8 week requirement meant 8 weeks in the spring
and 8 weeks in the fall or a total of 8 weeks for the year.
Ms. Campbell indicated that meant 8 weeks in the spring and 8 weeks
in the fall. This could be changes to include specific dates.
Mr. S'tark recommended stating the requirement was for 8 weeks from
April 1 to June 30 and 8 weeks from September 1 to November 15.
Ms. Campbell will add a phrase specifically outlining the period of
time that would be required. Anoka Countp closed their site on
November 20, so it will be necessary to keep their closing date in
mind.
Mr. Dahlberg indicated the County's closing date must be planned
according to needs. If we are to use a date, the County should be
contacted to see what their closing date is. Another option is to
leave it at November 15 and change later if necessary.
Mr. Bondow recommended contacting the County and checking the closing
date in advance.
Mr. Dahlberg noted, in the same paragraph under 3), the wording
". .. applicant will inform its customers of the yard waste." be
changed to read ". .. applicant will inform its customers of the
yard waste collection program.'
Mr. Dahlberg asked the reason for reports to be due within 15 days
of the expiration dates.
Mr. Stark asked if this was a reasonable amount of time.
Ms. Campbell indicated she has a deadline of January 31 and another
of July 31 for reports to be prepared and submitted to the County.
The 15-day requirement allows time for this preparation. This can
be flexible; however, the haulers had no objections.
Mr. Dahlberg asked if the reports affected the haulers.
Ms. Campbell stated it does not; however, it gives the City the numbers
for their reports.
Mr. Stark asked if the haulers had a problem with getting the number
of households.
Ms. Campbell indicated the haulers did not have an opportunity to
respond to that point.
Mr. Stark asked if the record is kept by weight or volume.
Ms. Campbell indicated it bq weight. There is a scale at the County
site.
Mr. Stark indicated landfills fill by volume, not by weight.
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Mr. Bondow asked how volume could be measured. It may be possible
if a truck is full, but wondered how volume could be done for a
partial load other than esti.mating.
Ms. Campbell stated there is a measure for weight.
Mr. Dahlberg aslced if there was anything stating that residents have
the option of hauling their yard waste to the Fridley compost site.
Ms. Campbell indicated this is not included in the ordinance and
did not advise inclusion because the policy for the compost site has
not been determined. This is part of the next agenda item.
Mr. Dahlberg suggested this be discussed before making a recommendation
on the ordinance.
b. Compost Site: Initial Review of Short and Long Term Policy
Ms. Campbell referred to her memo of January 12, 1989, regarding
the com ost site. As �`-
p part of the staff recommendation, the City
Council is encouraged, in addition to passing the yard waste amend-
ment, to have the compost site open at least one additional year
but no more than two years. In conjunction with the yard waste �
ordinance, Ms. Campbell felt we should not limit the residents options
of legally disposing of yard waste at the same time we are requiring
haulers to pick it up. There are limits to the site that prohibit
long term operation. Ms. Nancy Schumacher, Soil Scientist, did a
review of the site and developed the report, included in the agenda.
Basically, what she found is that current demand for the drop off
site is high. In the 1988 season, approximately 2100 cubic yards or
roughly 10% of the city's yard waste was deposited at the site. The
site was closed on October 3Z, 1988, and residents were unhappy about
it. There is demand for a drop off site and there appears to be demand
for the finished product. The quality of the compost is good. The
size is inadequate for all yard waste generated in the City of Fridley.
The amount of yard waste at the site exceeds commonly accepted
volumes.
Mr. Dahlberg asked if Ms. Schumacher was recommending a larger site
or less volume at the current site.
Ms. Campbell indicated she is recommending a larger site or an
additional site. Ms. Schumacher does speak to the possibility of
haulers using the site stating that it would be extremely inadequate.
Some positive factors include accessibility, high use, accessible
location, small service area, a�d a demand for the drop-off site
�d finished pnoduct: Optio�s presented were for a larger site
or to close the site and direct residents to the �oka County site.
1�. Campbell added the option of keeping the current site open for un
to two additianal growing seasons. The Public Works Director would
prefer the site be closed.
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Mr. Stark felt the compost site should remain open for at least one
year, perhaps two, to see What effect the ordinance has on the amount
of yard waste brought to the site. Be felt the atnount Would decrease.
Mr. Svanda indicated that, on the other hand, closing the site would
put piessure on residents to use the haulers.
Mr. Dahlberg asked what the costs were to maintain the site.
Ms. Campbell indicated she has requested that information but•did not
have a reply at this ti.me.
Mr. Dahlberg felt that information would be useful.
Ms. Campbell indicated that the City Council has asked for a policy
on the compost site. The memo states what is being recommended. The
Public Works Director will also be asked for a recommendation. The
yard waste amendment will come up before the discussion on the compost
site. Ms. Campbell requested a recoimnendation on the yard waste
amendment and to look at the compost site as it relates to this
amendment.
Mr. Dahlberg anticipates that the volume of yard waste brought to the
compost site will decrease as haulers pick up yard waste. He would
like to monitor use of the drop off site for two years to see.
Commission members agreed that volume at the drop off site should
decrease and would like to monitoz the site.
Mr. Stark added that people who take compost should not change.
Ms. Campbell indicated she would delete the last sentence of the
memo and use wording to suggest that the site would be closed in
the long term.
Ms. Campbell indicated that residents would be informed that the drop
off site is available through public information.
I�OTION by Mr. Svanda, seconded by Mr. Stark, to recommend the City
Council move forward with the amendment to City Code 113 for a public
hearing; further recommend that the City Council adopt these amendments
into the City Code 113; and also recommend that the City's existing
compost site remain open an additional two years, during which time
its use will be monitored, and at the end of that time, a recommendation
will be made regarding continued use of the site.
Mr. Stark indicated that after the first year the haulers will
know what to charge, so that during the second year the option
of the drop off site will be available.
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s Mr. Dahlberg felt it important to have information available
for public education relating to th e ordinance as part of
the recommendation. The City may not get much response from
the general public during the public hearing, but once the
ordinance is approved, there ma.y be more feedback from the
commimity. •
Mr: Svanda indicated that the haulers are required to notify
residents of the change.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, QiAIRPERSQN DAHLBERG DE CLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED I]�TAl�iII�USLY.
Mr. Stark asked if the County will charge a tipping fee.
Ms. Ca.mpbell indicated there is already a tipping fee of $2.35 per
cubic yard cfiarged to the hauler. �
Mr. Stark asked what happens when the volu�s increase.
Mr- Svanda felt the rates would go up, but if we don't do something
to control the rates, the increases will be much greater.
2. OLD BUSINESS
a. Recycling Upda,te
Ms. Campbell referred to her memo of January 12. There was no curbside
pick-up.�on January 6th. Pick-ups were completed on Saturd�y.
Ms. Campbell received 25 calls from residents in two hours. Super Cycle
reported mechanical problems. This is a tmique event. Ms. Campbell
was not called and informed of the problems and received conflicting
information. Ms. Campbell will meet with Tom Glander on January 18
�d will have Super Cycle send a letter to all residents of Fridley
explaining what happened. The letter will be sent at the expense of
Super Cycle. Carolyn Smith, Solid Waste Specialist for Anoka County,
recommended this be done. Super Cycle is in a transition period, and
there is a general decline in service right now. The City will look
at bidding and see what the competition is. The contract with Sup er
G�►cle is up June 1989. If we go out for bids, Super G�cle may not
increase costs and may increase service.
Mr. Stark asked if there could be something included in the contract
co�cerning misses.
Ms. Campbell thought it a possibility. The City Manager has requested
estimated costs for 1989 az�.d 1990. Based on the increases in costs in
past months, projected costs are expected to be $42,000 in 1990. There
are other co�siderations. Ms. Campbell did not want to change the
program and did not want co-mingling. The program has a moderate
participation level. If there are performance problems or the program
is changed, participation goes down: Ms. Campbell wou�ld rather see
the program move to different types of recycling such as cammercial,
industrial, amd mult i-tenant .
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Mr. Dahlberg asked if Ms. Campbell had further information regarding
recycling at the Black Forest Condominiums.
Ms. Campbell stated that she had spoken to Mr. Betzold and no further
action has been taken.
3. OTHER BUSYNESS
a. Mr. Dahlberg asked what items are planned for the next agenda.
Ms. Campbell indicated that the workplans and the video of the
education component are planned for the next meeting.
Mr. Svanda asked if the City Manager had been invited to attend a
meeting.
Ms. Campbell stated she has extended an invitation to Mr. Burns
and he has verbally stated he would attend a meeting.
Ms. Campbell indicated that in the past there have been a number of
items on the agenda that are informational. She has attempted to
refine the agenda. With that in mind, and because she is the
recycling coordinator, she has taken off the articles. If the
members wish to keep the articles, she will do so.
rir. Dahlberg felt the compost articles would be important.
Mr. Bondow suggested starting an education component for Cable TV.
Ms. Campbell indicated she has some video, but is not sure the
co�issions wished to spe�id their time watching a video.
Mr. Svanda a].so requested articles on plastics r�cycl3ng.
Mr. Bondow requested articles on radon.
Mr. Stark indicated that articles he has forwarded are for Ms. Campbell's
information.
Ms. Campbell indicated there were a number of articles in the last
agenda and she has deleted them as a matter of waste reduction. Ms.
Campbell indicated that the next meeting would be a working meeting.
Mr. Svanda asked to include on the agenda discussion on combining the
two commissions.
Mr. Bondow felt this would be a good discussion as part of the work
plans.
Ms. Campbell stated that, since some members have resigned, this may
be the time to further discuss this item. She will check into the
membership requirements.
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Mr. Stark asked if we solicit for new members.
Mr. Dahlberg indicated that a City Councilperson is to bring a
recommendation to the City Council.
Ms. Campbell thought an amendment could be made to allow a larger
commission than the others.
b. Ms. Campbell has learned that under the 1987-88 Joint Powers Agreement
there is potentially $6,000 that could be spent on recycling bins, in
� addition to the money from the Lions. That would make it potentially
$10,000 for bins. There could be pilot project and some could be made
available for sale. Recycling bins are an allowable expense under the
Joint Powers Agreement.
Mr. Dahlberg thought they should move ahead and do what is needed to
get si.arted.
Mr. 5tark stated he had read an article about a study done by the City
of Minneapolis. They provided bins and studied the before and after
rates. The rates went up quite a bit.
Mr. Dahlberg stated we have the money from the Lions, we know the
bins recommended for purchase, and know their cost. He asked Ms.
Campbell to move ahead to find out what the logo would be, printing
costs required, time, etc.
C. Mr. Dahlberg reported that an issue discussed at the Planning
Commission was light rail transit. The Anoka County Transit Board
is moving quickly to get a policy established in Anoka County and
are selecting rail corridors. Fridley is represented by John Flora,
the Director of Public Works, Councilperson Steve Billings, and an
engineer. The Planning Commission has made their position known that
there should be more input in the process by the Planning staff and
the Planning Commission. There are significant land use issues that
will affect us for many pears, and it is is only being evaluated from
the engineering standpoint. There are concerns about right of ways and
the City Council has concerns about the affect on taxes. This also
means parking areas and an impact on crossing public streets. There
was much discussion at the last meeting.
Mr. Svanda asked why the rush.
Mr. Dahlberg indicated they are trying to tie in requests for Federal
funding with what Hennepin County has been doing.
Ms. Campbell indicated that Anoka County needs a transportation link.
Mr. Dahlberg stated the Planning Commission is having an informal work
session with representatives from the County and BRW on February l, at
7:30 p.m. at the�Community Service Center. He encouraged interested
persons to attend. Mr. Dahlberg will be attending a meeting with
Councilperson Billings tomorrow at Spring Lake Park. Follow-ups will
be provided.
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d. Mr. Stark asked for information regarding the Moore Lake Project. He
would like to know if the project was a success and if the goals were
accomplished.
Ms. Campbell indicated this project is under the Public Works
Department.
Mr. Dahlberg indicated that the City Council has passed a resolution
to have a water quality study done, but did not think this included
lalces and streams, but rather wells and the drinking water system.
Councilpersoa� Jorgenson had suggested that water qu�lity be a part
of this co�ission.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Mr. Bondow, seconded by Mr. Svanda, to adjourn the meeting.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON DAHLBERG DE�LARED THE JANUARY 17,
�989, JOINT EQC/ENERGY CONINIISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:15 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Recording Secretary