PL 04/11/1990 - 7130PI.ANNIHG COMNIISSION MEETIHG
iiEDNESDAY, APgII. 11, 1990
7:30 P.�.
Public
Planning Commission
City of Fridley
A G E N D A
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WEDNESDAY, APRIL 11, 1990 7:30 P.M.
LOCATION: FRIDLEY MUNICIPAL CENTER, 6431 UNIVERSITY AVENUE N.E.
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL•
APPROVE PLANNING CONII�lISSION MINUTES: March 14, 1990
PUBLIC HEARING• CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #90-04,
BY HOLIDAY COMPANIES:
Per Section 205.15.O1.C.(11) of the Fridley City Code, to allow
garden centers or nurseries which require outside display or
storage of inerchandise, on Lot 1, Block 1, Holiday North lst
Addition, generally located at 250 - 57th Avenue N.E. (Holiday Plus
Store)
PUBLIC HEARING� CONSIDERATION OF A REZONING ZOA #90-03, BY BOB'S
AMOCO:
To rezone Lot 1, Block 1, Lampert's Addition from M-1, Light
Industrial, to C-2, General Business, generally located at 7680
Highway 65 N.E. (Amoco Oil Service Station)
PUBLIC HEARING• CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. SP #90-03,
BY BOB'S AMOCO•
Per Section 205.14.O1.C.(6) of the Fridley City Code, to allow a
mo�or vehicle wash establishment on Lot 1, Block 1, Lampert's
Addition, generally located at 7680 Highway 65 N.E. (Amoco Oil
Service Station)
RECEIVE THE MINiJTES OF THE HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING OF
MARCH 1, 1990
RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING
OF MARCH 5, 1990
RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL OUALITY AND ENERGY
COMMISSION MEETING OF MARCH 6. 1990
RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
MEETING OF MARCH 8. 1990
RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING OF MARCH 20.
1990
RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL OUALITY AND ENERGY
COMMISSION MEETING OF MARCH 20, 1990
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CALL TO ORDER•
Vice-Chairperson Kondrick called the March 14, 1990, Planning
Commission meeting to order at 7:35 p.m.
ROLL CALL•
Members Present:
Members Absent:
Dave Kondrick, Dean Saba, Alex Barna,
Paul Dahlberg
Don Betzold, Sue Sherek
Others Present: Barbara Dacy, Planning Coordinator
Michele McPherson, Planning Assistant
Steve Billings, Councilmember
Dennis Schneider, Councilmember
Gary Andelin, Murphy Oil
Lori Erickson, Murphy Oil
1 Waite 1916 - 42nd Ave. N.E.
Vi and Pau ,
Linda Wiltfang, 5885 Tennison Dr.
Dee and Will Lynn, 7370 Memory Lane
William Trudeau, 715 - 49 1/2 Avenue N.E.
APPROVAL OF FEBRUARY 14 1990 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Mr. Dahlberg, to approve the
February 14, 1990, Planning Commission minutes as written.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON RONDRICR
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY.
1. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SP
'�90-02 BY 123-ABC LEARNING CENTER:
Per Section 205.07.O1.C.(4) of the Fridley City Code to allow
a day care center in a church, the same being 755 - 73rd
Avenue N.E. (Grace Evangelical Free Church)
MOTION by Mr. Dahlberg, seconded by Mr. Barna, to waive the reading
of the public hearing notice and open the public hearing.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTINd AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERBON RONDRICR
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIM008LY.
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Ms. McPherson stated Vi Waite, Director of the 123-ABC Learning
Center is requesting a special use permit for a day care center at
the Grace Evangelical Free Church, located on 73rd Avenue near
Madsen Park which is owned by the City. The church is in an R-1,
Single Family Dwelling, zoning on approximately 3 acres. Directly
across the street to the south is M-2, Heavy Industrial zoning.
Ms. McPherson stated the day care center will be operating in three
rooms in the lower level of the existing church. The day care
center has already received a license from the State of Minnesota
to operate from 6:30 a.m. to 6:30 p.m. and for a maximum of 29
children, predominately preschool children. The day care center
will be using the adjacent Madsen Park for the outdoor play area.
Ms. McPherson stated Section 205.07.O1.C.(4) of the Fridley City
Code does allow day care centers in the R-1 zoning district,
provided they are located in churches, schools, or other buildings
which are located on arterial or collector streets.
Avenue is classified as an arterial street, and there eis yfairly
good access from 73rd Avenue to the church site.
Ms. McPherson stated the Code also requires one
every 100 sq, ft. of day care area. The chur ha lot it elf has
approximately 200 spaces. In addition, there is area on site for
drop-off and pick-up of children and/or parishioners. Two pick-up
or drop-off sites have been discussed with the petitioner. The
south door is the main entrance to the church. The rear door will
also be used as a fire escape and is a little more remote; however,
they are intending that this door will be used for late evening
drop-offs after the front door is locked for the evening.
Ms. McPherson stated currently the entrance and exit driveways are
signed °Enter�� and "Exit��. This could potentially cause some
confusion for people unfamiliar with the site; however, staff has
not made it a stipulation on the recommendation.
Ms. McPherson stated staff is recommending the Planning Commission
recommend to the City Council approval of this special use permit
request as it does meet all the code re
centers. There is adequate parking and traff cn s ce ade care
buffering to the neighbors to the east and north of the�site�with
a combination of private fences/vegetation and other types of
- landscaping. Also, Madsen Park directly to the west of the site
provides more than adequate space for the outdoor play area.
Mr• Dahlberg asked if there is a re
regulations that the day care center mus�t h ve na encea outaoor
play area adjacent to the buildinq.
Ms. McPherson stated that is correct; however, according to Ms.
Waite, the people in charge of State Licensing of the day care
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center have agreed that the Madsen Park will fit the criteria for
the outdoor play area requirement. Ms. Waite has told staff that
no more than 10 children at any one time will be going to the
outdoor play area with a staff person.
Mr. Dahlberg stated that if the State is going to forgive the
requirement for a play area adjacent to the building, then that is
f ine .
Mr. Barna stated that with another day care center which received
a special use permit last year, the rooms used for day care were
also connected by doors between the rooms. He did not see that
with this plan, only a common hallway.
Ms. McPherson stated this plan was reviewed by the Inspection
Department, and no stipulations were made for this requirement.
There is a secondary exit from the first room so there are two
exits for two rooms. Only the middle room is a vulnerable room.
She stated staff can research this further.
Mr. Dahlberg stated that he believed as far as the Building Code,
the size of those rooms is probably such that the rooms do not
require two exits, as a classroom or a function classified as a
gathering space. However, it would be a good idea for the
Inspection Department to re-evaluate this.
Ms. McPherson stated she had a letter addressed to Mike Happ, of
the Grace Evangelical Free Church from Darrel Clark, Building
Inspector, outlining the stipulations required by the Building
Code. Those stipulations included the installation of smoke and
alarm detectors in each room of the day care, in the lower corridor
serving the rooms, and at the top of each of the two stairways
serving the lower level. The only egress window which needs to be
installed is in the room used for sleeping purposes, the third room
on the far east of the building. Also stipulated was the approval
of the special use permit and the maximum of children at 29.
Mr. Saba stated he felt a little uncomfortable with the
authorization from the State to not have a fenced outdoor play
area.
Ms. Dacy stated that before the City Council meeting, the
petitioner should have the confirmation from the State regarding
licensing approval and the approval of Madsen Park as the outdoor
play area.
Ms. Waite stated that room 1 which is close to the outside exit
will also have an escape window. There will be a connecting door
between rooms 1 and 2. Room 3 is near the wide stairway.
Mr. Saba stated that since the day care center will be operated in
the lower level of the church and since children will be there for
long periods of time, Ms. Waite might want to check into the radon
levels. If the radon levels are high enouqh, it may be unsafe for
the children.
Mr. Dahlberg asked where the children will have their exercise
space during the day.
Ms. Waite stated room 3 is the large muscle area, and all the
children will have access to that at different times of the day.
Ms. Waite stated the children are their first concern and will
always be under the care of a teacher. They will never be left
alone. Outside they will use a rope system while going to and from
the park. Over the years, she has never had any problems.
Mr. Barna asked about the child to adult ratio.
Ms. Waite stated the adult to child ratio is 1 to 10 for the
preschool children and 1 to 15 for the school age children. There
will be 5 teachers with degrees.
Mr. Dahlberg asked if the 29 children are ust
and the latchkey children are over and above thee2ghool children,
Ms. Waite stated they must never exceed a total of 29 children.
That includes preschool age and school age children.
Ms. Linda Wiltfang, 5885 Tennison Drive, stated she is a full time
working parent and a resident of Fridle
awaiting the opening of this day care center � She stated MsX1Waite
runs a very beautiful school. She has never
of her son or daughter in the care of Ms. Waite�a d her staff.afThe
children are well taken care of, and there is always an adult in
attendance. With Target and Onan e
need in this community for more of �isdtng' there is certainly a
ype of day care.
OTION by Mr. Dahlberg, seconded by Mr. Barna, to close the public
hearing.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE,
DECLARyD TgE MOTION
CLOBED AT 7:55 P.M.
ALL VOTING AYE, pICE-CHAIRpERBON RONDRICR
CARRIED QNAIiTIMOIIBLY AND THE PIIBLIC HEARING
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Mr. Barna, to recommend to City
Council approval of Special Use Permit, gp
Learning Center, per Section 205.07.O1.C.(4) of the�Fridley3City
Code to allow a day care center in a church, the same being 755 -
73rd Avenue N.E. (Grace Evangelical Free Church), with the
following stipulations:
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1. The day care center shall meet the requirements of the
Uniform Building Code and fire codes.
2. A letter from the State be submitted before the Council
meeting waiving the fenced-in play area.
II�N A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTINa AYE, VICE-CSAIRPERSON RONDRICR
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED DNANIMOIIBLY.
Ms. McPherson stated this item will go to City Council on March 26,
1990.
2. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A REZONING ZOA #90-01. BY
MURPHY OIL CO:
To rezone from R-1, Single Family Dwelling, to C-1, Local
Business, generally located at 6443 East River Road N.E. (Spur
Station)
O�! TION by Mr. Dahlberg, seconded by Mr. Barna, to waive the reading
of the public hearing notice and open the public hearing.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTINa AYE, VIC$-CHAIRPER80N RONDRICR
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE PIIBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 5:00
P.M.
Ms. McPherson stated Murphy Oil currently owns the Spur Station.
Lot 3 is currently zoned R-1, Single Family Dwelling, and the
proposal is to rezone it to C-1, Local Business. There is
additional R-1 zoning to the east. The lot to the north is zoned
C-1. East River Road and R-3, General Multiple Dwelling, are to
the west. The other two corners of that intersection are zoned
commercial.
Ms. McPherson stated the petitioner is requesting the rezoning of
Lot 33 in order to combine Lot 10 and Lot 33 to create a larger
buildable parcel in order to remove the existing structures and
construct a new convenience store and gas station with a new pump
island. By rezoning the residential lot and creating this larger
buildable parcel, there will be a greater confonaance to the City's
zoning code than there is currently on the existing lot 10 with the
existing convenience/gas station.
Ms. McPherson stated that before the Appeals Commission meeting
where the petitioner requested two variances for this proposal, Mr.
Barna had asked how many variances would be needed for the existing
convenience store if it was rebuilt today. The answer is seven
variances. She stated the Appeals Commission recommended approval
of the two variances requested by the petitioner.
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Ms. McPherson stated the rezoning ayso allows the petitioner to
provide for greater screening and buffering from the south and east
sides of the parcel to buffer the residential neighborhood from
this commercial use. The petitioner hopes to be able to utilize
many of the existing trees on site and the existing cedar and lilac
hedges along the south and east property lines. In addition, the
petitioner is proposing additional landscaping and the required
screening fence between the commercial and residential districts.
Ms. McPherson stated the rezoning will increase the amount of
commercial zoning at this intersection; however, this parcel would
be approximately the same size as the Christensen Auto Body and
Riverside Car Wash and small retail center, all currently zoned
commercial.
Ms. McPherson stated the petitioner has submitted for staff review
the results of the soil borings that were conducted on site for
potential soil contamination from the existing underground tanks.
The soil test results were negative for soil contamination, and the
City Engineering Department has reviewed those results.
Ms. McPherson stated staff is recommending the Planning Commission
recommend to City Council approval of this rezoning request with
two stipulations:
1.
2.
Approval of the special use permit and variance requests
The parcels shall be combined into one tax parcel.
Mr. Gary Andelin, Murphy Oil, stated they are trying to comply as
much as possible with City requirements. They are trying to take
a building that was built in the 50's or 60's and improve it to the
look of the 90's and become a better business in Fridley.
Mr. Kondrick asked if Mr. Andelin had any reservations or questions
about any restrictions or limitations being put on the property..
Mr. Andelin stated he did not. He stated it is all part of
updating the property.
MoTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Dahlberg, to close the public
hearing.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON KONDRICR
DECLARED THTs MOTION CARRIED ONANIMOIIBLY AND THE PIIBLIC HEARING
CLOSED AT 8:07 P.M.
Mr. Barna stated that by rezoning Lot 33, he did not think they
would be taking anything away from the existing R-1 zoning
available in the City. This will be an improvement to the existing
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business and will improve the traffic flow and the general look of
the whole neighborhood.
Mr. Rondrick asked if there has been any neighborhood objection to
this proposal.
Ms. McPherson stated a neighborhood meeting was held by the
petitioner. Two people attended that meeting, and they were
basically curious about what was going to happen on the property.
However, the property owner to the east has complained about the
litter and the practice of snow removal where the snow is pushed
to the east into his yard.
Mr. Barna stated the existing Spur Station is quite close to that
property owner, and the dumpster is located on that side of the
building. This new plan should improve that situation. Also, the
people directly to the south attended the Appeals Commission
meeting with a concern about the sidewalk area in front of their
home.
Ms. McPherson stated this can be addressed with the special use
permit request.
MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Saba, to recommend to City
Council approval of Rezoning, ZOA #90-01, by Murphy Oil Company,
to rezone from R-1, Single Family Dwelling, to C-1, Local Business,
generally located at 6443 East River Road N.E. (Spur Station), with
the following stipulations:
1. Approval of the special use permit and variance requests
2. The parcels shall be combined into one tax parcel.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON RONDRICR
DECLARED T8E MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIIBLY.
Ms. McPherson stated the City Council will set the public hearing
for the rezoning at the March 26, 1990, meeting, and the pubic
hearing on the rezoning will be held on April 9, 1990.
3. PUBLIC HEARING• CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. SP
#90-01 BY MURPHY OIL CO.:
Per Section 205.13.O1.C.7 of the Fridley City Code to allow
a motor vehicle fuel and oil dispensing service as an
accessory use to a convenience store, generally located at
6485 and 6443 East River Road N.E. (Spur Station).
OTI N by Mr. Saba, seconded by Mr. Barna, to waive the reading of
the public hearing notice and open the public hearing.
PLANNING CO1�lIBBION ME$TINa. MARCH 14, 1990 PAGE S o.
OPON A VOICE VOTE, 11LL VOTINa AYE, VICE-CSAIRPERBON RONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED DNANII�OIIBLY AND THE PIIBLIC HEARINa OPEN
AT 8:10 P.M.
Ms. McPherson stated the petitioner is proposing to close and
rearrange some of the existing curb cuts. The first curb cut east-
bound on Mississippi Street will be closed and the two curb cuts
on East River Road will be shifted further south away from the
intersection. There is some concern as the right turn lane onto
Mississippi from East River Road curves in front of those two
driveways. Anoka County has reviewed this plan and has
recommended, although no correspondence has been received, to close
the northernmost driveway on East River Road. The petitioner is
proposing to shift that driveway even farther south and change the
radii on that driveway such that it will allow a northbound exit
from that driveway but will have the appearance of a one-way in
only. There will be adequate space for cars to go in and out at
the same time; however, it is the intent through the design to
discourage people from exiting northbound on East River Road.
Ms. McPherson stated the petitioner has been very cooperative and
has worked with City staff in trying to find a solution that will
work for both the petitioner and lessen the traf f ic hazards at this
corner.
Ms. McPherson stated, as stated by Mr. Barna, Mr. and Mrs. Franklin
who live directly south of this site are concerned about the
existence of a sidewalk of some kind along the west and north
property lines of this parcel. In order to catch the public school
bus on Ashton Avenue, their children need to walk along that
sidewalk to Ashton Avenue.
Ms. McPherson stated the Engineering and Planning staff inet with
the petitioner on site to discuss the issue of the sidewalk. Mr.
Franklin brought up some issues of maintenance. He is currently
clearing the snow on the paved area that is there now, because the
area is not wide enough for the City's snow removal equipment. The
petitioner will be removing the existing asphalt paving and will
be constructing a concrete sidewalk at a slope that will be
adequate for the City's snow removal equipment. In addition, there
is an existing power pole on the site that narrows the amount of
room needed to construct a sidewalk. The petitioner has spoken
with the utility company, and the utility company will be moving
that pole so the 5 ft. wide sidewalk can be constructed along the
west property line. So, the sidewalk issue has been resolved.
Ms. McPherson stated staff recommends the Planning Commission
recommend to City Council approval of the special use permit with
four stipulations:
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1. Reconstruct the existinq sidewalk to a minimum width of
five feet from the south property lines around the site
to the northeast corner.
2. Drainage calculations shall be submitted to the
Engineering Department prior to issuance of a building
permit.
3. The driveway issue shall be resolved with Anoka County
prior to the issuance of a building permit.
4. Approval of the variance request
Mr. Dahlberg asked if a grading and drainage plan has been
submitted.
Ms. McPherson stated a grading and drainage plan has been
submitted. It is the petitioner's intention to have an
infiltration trench in the grassy area directly to the east of the
building. Additional drainage will occur toward the green area at
the south of the site. That has also been left for snow storage
and drainage. Mark Winson, Assistant Public Works Director, has
not yet received the drainage calculations.
Mr. Dahlberg stated this project really should have little impact
on the neighbors to the east except for the two closest residences
to the east.
Mr. Saba asked about the store's operating hours.
Mr. Andelin stated the hours are up to the lessee; however, it has
been a 24 hour operation, and they wish to continue that.
Mr. Kondrick asked.about lighting. Has there been complaints about
lighting into the neighborhood?
Ms. McPherson stated she has not received any complaints about
lights or the current operation.
Mr. Andelin stated at the present time, they have area lights on
the entrances and egress. They try to keep maximum lighting for
security purposes. The lights are wall mounted and on the canopy•
He stated he can foresee no area lights in back of the building,
but they do try to keep as much lighting as possible at the
entrances for traffic. The canopy lights do give a majority of the
lighting. They will keep the lights to a minimum on height, so the
lighting will not go over into the residential properties.
Mr. Saba asked about any plans for a P.A. system.
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Mr. Andelin stated they are required by law to have an intercom
system. This is used mainly to contact people at the gas pumps.
It is not a loud system.
Mr. Barna asked about any plans for signage.
Mr. Andelin stated that at the present time, they will not be
changing the signage. The sign will remain in approximately the
same location as it is now.
Mr. Dahlberg stated staff can review the existing condition of the
siqnage and review the requirements of the Sign Ordinance with the
petitioner.
Mr. Dahlberg stated the present lessee stores his mobile home on
the site a great percentage of the time. He believed the Planning
Commission would like that not to be there. He would not suggest
that this concern be part of the approval of the special use
permit, but is there anything the petitioner can do about it?
Mr. Andelin stated that as part of their lease package, this type
of storage is not supposed to be happening.
Mr. Dahlberg stated he thought the site plan is a significant
improvement over the existing site. He would like to discuss a
possible change to what has been proposed. He stated the property
line is very close to the two residences on the east, and the
parking and hard surface is being moved away from that property
line. He would suggest that this be turned around and the fence
and landscaping be put on the opposite side of the fence, rather
than having the fence towards the residence and landscaping on the
service station side. He would think the neighbors would rather
look at greenery than a wooden fence and the neighbor would
perceive his yard as being larger. The issue is that it is a
maintenance headache for the owner of the property, because they
have to go outside their property to maintain the landscaping and
pick up litter along the fence. If the fence could maybe not
follow the property line but could cut off on a diagonal by the
trees and put some landscaping on the residence's side, it would
seem to be a more neighborly approach. This is a suggestion for
the petitioner to consider.
Mr. Dahlberg stated another concern is whether or not there is
standing water in the ponding area. He believed there are
requirements relative to fencing around detention and retention
ponds. With standing water, there is potentially a hazard for
children. This may or may not be a problem, but it is something
that should be investigated.
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Ms. McPherson stated Mr. Winson may be looking at this issue when
he looks at the drainage calculations and the volume of water that
would be retained.
Mr. Dahlberg stated he concurred with the County relative to the
northernmost curb cut onto the site from East River Road. The
revised sketch indicates that the north edge of that curb cut is
100 ft. probably from the center line or edge of the traffic lane
on Mississippi Street, but not 100 ft. from the turn lane. He
felt that the curb cut is too close to that intersection, even
though it does have a configuration such that it will draw traffic
in and potentially discourage people from going back out, it will
not discourage people entirely ffom going out that curb cut. He
would suggest that curb cut be no farther north than the present
south curb cut. This is a busy intersection, and a lot of traffic
goes east on Mississippi Street off East River Road.
Mr. Andelin stated that as long as the variance is not affected,
he is certainly willing to have LBH Architects look at it.
Mr. Dahlberg stated he has no difficulty with the two curb cuts on
East River Road as long as the northernmost curb cut is moved to
the south at the location of the present southerly curb cut which
he feels is a reasonable distance from the intersection, even to
the extent that vehicles could make that right turn and head north
onto East River Road without too much difficulty.
Mr. Dahlberg stated the County has given them no information as to
why they are recommending only one curb cut on East River Road.
Mr. Dahlberg stated that on the southerly curb cut, it appears to
him that as traffic is heading into the parking area, it is better
to design that curb .cut 90 degrees perpendicular to the street
rather than perpendicular to the parking area. It is just a better
design for access to that parking area at the south. This is just
another suggestion for the architect to consider.
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Mr. Dahlberg, to close the public
hearing.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CSAIRPERSON RONDRICR
DECLARED T8E MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIIBLY AND THE PIIBLIC HEARING
CLOBED AT 8:55 P.M.
OM TION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Mr. Barna, to recommend to City
Council approval of Special Use Permit, SP #90-01, by Murphy Oil
Company, per Section 205.13.01.C.7 of the Fridley City Code to
allow a motor vehicle fuel and oil dispensing service as an
accessory use to a convenience store, generally located at 6485 and
6443 East River Road N.E. (Spur Station), with consideration to be
given to investigating the location of the northernmost curb cut
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on East River Road, investigating the requirements of drainage in
terms of ponding, and investigating the appropriateness or
advisability of potentially relocating the landscaping and the
fence configuration on the east side of the property, and with the
following stipulations:
1. Reconstruct the existing sidewalk to a minimum width of
five feet from the south property lines around the site
to the northeast corner.
2. Drainage calculations shall be submitted to the
Engineering Department prior to issuance of a building
permit.
3. The driveway issue shall be resolved with Anoka County
prior to the issuance of a building permit.
4. Approval of the variance request
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTINa AYF, VICE-CHAIRPERSON RONDRICR
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOIIBLY.
Ms. McPherson stated the Council will set a public hearing at their
April 9th meeting for April 23, 1990.
4. CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION OF ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS:
Ms. Dacy stated that after the February 26, 1990, meeting, the
Council discussed the parking stall issue, lot coverage issue, and
the landscaping issue. As far as the parking stall size, the
Council stated that a 9 ft. parking stall should be used in areas
where there is:
1. Long term employee parking
2. Parking ramps
3. Apartment buildings
4. Industrial buildings
5. Some office facilities, but not including medical clinics
6. Redevelopment districts with a special use permit
Ms. Dacy stated the Council preferred to keep the 10 ft. wide
parking stalls for high turn-over facilities, especially for
shopping centers or retail areas and locations such as Unity
Hospital and associated clinics. As far as striping, the Council
wanted both 9 ft. and 10 ft. stalls to be double striped.
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Ms. Dacy stated the Planning Commission should review these
policies regarding parking stall size and determine if they want
to make any recommendations or additions to the City Council.
Ms. Dacy stated the City Council recommended that lot coverage may
be increased up to 10� in industrial districts only with a special
use permit. Previously, the Planning Commission had discussed the
possibility of deleting the special use permit requirement. The
Council wanted to start with industrial districts first and see
what happens and then possibly consider amending the commercial
districts. Also important is that the Council wanted staff to
develop some type of standards for the Planning Commission and
Council to adopt to evaluate these permit requests.
Ms. Dacy stated that regarding the landscaping ordinance, Council
has asked staff to prepare the following additional information:
1. Evaluation of the costs of the landscaping requirements
as a percentage of the total construction budget.
2. Examine the new fire station site plans for conformance
to the landscape ordinance, re-evaluate and draft new
language regarding the sections for compliance by
existing uses.
Ms. Dacy stated that at the meeting, the Council had a question
regarding when exactly do existing uses have to conform and when
should they do that--upon the time of expansion or is there a set
time period? There is a section of the code that provides for that
now, but Council wants to look at it again.
Ms. Dacy stated the sign ordinance changes will be discussed at a
Council meetings in April.
Ms. Dacy stated the Council has asked the Planning Commission for
input regarding the parking stall sizes.
Mr. Dahlberg stated he did not agree with the Council's revised
direction on parking stall sizes. He stated he thinks all parking
stalls should be 9 ft., and there should be no differentiation
between areas, because it would be very difficult to control or
monitor. Maintaining a 9 ft. stall dimension is certainly more
than adequate for almost any vehicle today, except trucks or RV's.
Mr. Rondrick agreed with the 9 ft. stall dimension.
Mr. Saba stated he liked the idea of the double striping.
Councilmember Billings stated the Council appreciates the fact that
the Planning Commission prefers 9 ft. stalls; however, the majority
of the Council does not want 9 ft. stalls all over, so they are
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PLANNING CO1�II88ION MEETING. lSARCH 14, 1990 PAGE 15
MOTION by Mr. Dahlberg, seconded by Mr. Barna, to rec�ive the
February 1, 1990, Human Resources Commission minutes.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTINa AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON RONDRICR
D$CLARED THE MOTION CARRIED DNANIMOIIBLY.
7. RECEIVE FEBRUARY 5 1990 PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
MINUTES•
OM TION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Dahlberg, to receive the
February 5, 1990, Parks and Recreation Commission minutes.
IIPON A YOICE VOTE, AI+L VOTIN�3 AYE, VICE-CBAIRPERSON RONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIIBLY.
8. RECEIVE FEBRUARY 8 1990 HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
MINUTES•
OM TION by Mr. Dahlberg, seconded by Mr. Saba, to receive the
February 8, 1990, Housing and Redevelopment Authority minutes.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON RONDRICR
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIIBLY.
9. CEIVE FEBRUARY 20 1990 APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Dahlberg, to receive the
February 20, 1990, Appeals Commission minutes.
DPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CSAIRPER80N RONDRICR
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIIBLY.
10. RECEIVE MARCH 6 1990 APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
OM TION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Saba, to receive the March 6,
1990, Appeals Commission minutes.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYB� VICE-CHAIRPER80N RONDRICK
DECLARED T8E MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY.
11. OTHER BUSINESS:
a. R.T.B. Chair's Advisory Newsletter dated 2/28/90
For the Commission's information
b. Earth Day
Mr. Saba stated he and the Environmental Quality and
Energy Commission would like to remind the Planning
PLANNING COMMI88ION MBgTING. MARCS 14. 1990 PAGE 16
Commission members that Earth Day will be Sunday, April
22, 1990, and invite them to the celebration at
Springbrook Nature Center. He stated they will be
passing out information on what can be done in the
community to help people become more environmentally
sensible and responsible.
ADJOURNMENT•
OM TION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Mr. Dahlberq, to adjourn the
meeting. IIpon a voice vote, all votinq ape, Vice-Chairperson
Rondrick declared the motion carried unanimously and the March 14,
1990, Planninq Commission meetinq adjourned at 9:35 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Lyn Saba
Recording Secretary
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APPEALS DATE
��N � PLAMNG COMVISSfON DAl'E : Apri 1� i, I 990
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PERMIT NUMBER
APPLICANT
PROPOSED REQUEST
LOCATION
SITE DATA
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ADJACENT LAND USES
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ANALYSIS
FNANCIAL NVIPLICATIONS
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ENV�iONMENTAL
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STAFF RECOMME�ATION
APPEALS RECOMMENDATION
PLANNNG COMMISSION
RECOIM�AENDATION
SP ��90-04
Holiday Companies
Special Use Permit is required to allow a garden
center on the Holiday Plus site.
250 - 57th Avenue N.E.
C-3, General Shopping
C-2, General Business to east and north; M-2, Heavy
Industrial to west; I-694 to south
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Staff Report
SP #90-04, Holiday Companies
Page 2
REOUEST
The Holiday Companies is requesting that a special use permit be
granted in order to operate a seasonal garden center. This request
is located on Lot 1, Block 1, Holiday North First Addition,
generally located at 250 - 57th Avenue N.E.
SITE
Located on the site is the existing Holiday Plus grocery/warehouse
store. The current garden center is located at the northeast
corner of the building, and the petitioner is proposing to relocate
the garden center to the southeast corner of the building. The
garden center will be accessed from�the interior of the store near
the seasonal merchandise department.
ANALYSIS
Although the garden center will be a"temporary" use located in a
permanent location, staff sees this as an opportunity to improve
the general aesthetics of the rear of the Holiday Plus store. The
garden center will be used for approximately five to eight weeks
during the spring to sell bedding plants. The relocation of the
garden center to the rear of the building may help to break up the
large expanse of brick. This will also reduce traffic congestion
between delivery trucks for both the garden center and McDonald's,
and Holiday patrons.
With the recent Minnesota Department of Transportation
reconstruction of the I-694/University Avenue interchange, the
Holiday Plus site has become more exposed due to the removal of the
maple and ash trees that were located along the south property line
of the Holiday Plus site. Staff spoke with a representative from
MnDOT and they intend to only sod and seed the construction area.
It has been noted that University Avenue is the "gateway" to the
City of Fridley. This request provides an opportunity to improve
the aesthetics of this particular gateway into the City. Staff is
recommending that the Holiday Companies work on a long-range site
improvement plan for the rear of this site in conjunction with the
special use permit request.
RECOMMENDATION
Staff recommends approval of the special use permit request with
the following stipulations:
1. The existinq garden center fence shall be removed and the
sidewalk/pavement area shall be repaired.
Staff Report
SP #90-04, Holiday Companies
Page 3
2. The shrub beds along 57th Avenue shall be cleaned and mulched
with rock and an appropriate weed barrier by November 1, 1990.
3. The dumpsters shall be screened by November 1, 1990, if the
trash compactor has not been installed.
4. The petitioner shall work with City staff to develop a long-
range site improvement plan for the rear of the building by
June 1991. Implementation of this plan to be completed by
August 1993.
5. The garden center shall be enclosed with a cyclone fence and
vinyl slats.
6. Vinyl slats matching those of the garden center shall be
installed in the cyclone fence surrounding the propane tank
located on the west property line.
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ZOA ��90-03
Bob Ring of Bob's Amoco
Rezone from M-1, Light Industrial to C-2, General
Business
7680 Highway 65 N.E.
29,040 square feet
M-1, Light Industrial
M-1, Light Industrial to south and west; C-3, General
Shopping to east; Spring Lake Park to north (C-2,
Neighborhood and Service Center Commercial District)
Yes
Yes
Remedial system for groundwater contamination to be
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Approval with stipulations
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Staff Report
ZOA #90-03, Bob's Amoco
Page 2
REQUEST
Bob Ring of Bob's Amoco is requesting that Lot 1, Block 1,
Lampert's Addition, generally located at 7680 Highway 65 N.E., be
rezoned from M-1, Light Industrial, to C-2, General Business.
SITE
The site is currently zoned M-1, Light Industrial. The zoning to
the north in Spring Lake Park is C-2, Neighborhood and Service
Center Commercial District. The zoning to the south and west is
M-1, Light Industrial; zoning to the east is C-3, General Shopping.
Currently located on site is an automotive service station, a small
convenience store, and gas pumps.
ANALYSIS
The parcel has been zoned M-1, Light Industrial, since 1958;
however, the existing use and adjacent uses are not industrial, but
commercial in nature. The proposed site improvement by the
petitioner will increase the amount of commercial space within the
building. Rezoning this parcel to a commercial use would be in
keeping with the character of other corners of the intersection.
The parcels to the east at the intersection of Osborne Road and
Highway 65 have been zoned General Shopping since 1958. The other
parcels located in Spring Lake Park are also zoned for commercial
use. In other areas of the City, it is common for "loop back"
parcels to be zoned commercial, even if there is adjacent
industrial zoning. While there is no "loop back" road at this
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west side of the VFW and exits through the Amoco parcel operates
and functions as a"loop back" road. Therefore, it would be
logical for the City to approve a rezoning of both the VFW and
Amoco parcels to C-2, General Business.
RECOMMENDATION
Staff recommends that the Planning Commission recommend approval
of the rezoning, ZOA #90-03, request to the City Council with the
following stipulation:
l. The variance request, VAR #90-04, be approved.
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RECOIuNAENDATION
SP 4�90-03
Bob Ring of Bob's Amoco
Allow a car wash at an automotive service station
and to reconstruct the pump islands.
7680 Highway 65 N.E.
29,040 square feet
M-1, Light Industrial
M-1, Light Industrial to south and west; C-3, General
Shopping to east; Spring Lake Park to north (C-2,
Neighborhood and Service Center Commercial District)
Yes
Yes
Remedial system for groundwater contamination to be
installed on site.
Approval with stipulations
Staff Report
SP #90-03, Bob's Amoco
Page 2
REOUEST
Bob Ring of Bob�s Amoco is requesting that a special use permit be
granted to allow a car wash addition to an automotive service
station. This request is located on Lot l, Block 1, Lampert's
Addition, generally located at 7680 Highway 65 N.E.
SITE
The site is currently zoned M-1, Light Industrial. The zoning to
the north in Spring I�ke Park is C-2, Neighborhood and Service
Center Commercial District. The zoning to the south and west is
M-1, Light Industrial; zoning to the east is C-3, General Shopping.
Currently located on site is an automotive service station, a small
convenience store, and gas pumps. In addition to the special use
permit, the petitioner has applied for a rezoning from M-1, Light
Industrial, to C-2, General Business.
ANALYSIS
In 1985, the petitioner was granted a special use permit to convert
an existing service bay to a back-in/back-out car wash. The
petitioner is proposing to construct a 17' x 48' car wash addition
to the rear of the building, which would replace the existing car
wash. The bay in which the existing car wash is located will be
converted back into a service bay and may be used for interior
storage of the dumpster and other automotive related items. The
petitioner is also proposing to remove the existing pumps and pump
islands and to replace these with new pump islands and a new layout
(see attached site plan). The special use permit for a car wash
is a requirement under the C-2 zoning district regulations. While
a car wash is not considered an accessory use under the M-1
district, the petitioner would be required to apply for a special
use permit in order to relocate and reconstruct the pump islands.
The proposed pump layout will help to decrease traffic congestion
at the site while improving traffic flow through the site. In
addition, two driveways close to the Osborne Road/service road
intersection will be closed. This will help reduce confusion at
this intersection. The proposed plan will improve the general
appearance of the building as well as improve the landscaping at
the site (see attached variance report for other site plan
alternatives).
In order to construct the proposed site plan, the petitioner will
need two variances of which the Appeals Commission on March 20,
1990 recommended approval to the City Council. These variances
include a reduction in the building setback to the side lot line
and a reduction in the required hard surface setback. During the
Appeals Commission process, it was noted that the proposed site
Staff Report
SP #90-03, Bob's Amoco
Page 3
plan would have some impact to the adjacent VFW site to the west.
The proposed site plan indicated that the existing driveway and
access between the VFW and the Amoco site would be closed off. The
petitioner and representatives from the VFW met with City staff on
Thursday, March 29, 1990 to discuss these traffic issues. It was
agreed that the petitioner would leave the existing opening as it
is to provide access from the VFW site.
RECOMMENDATION
Staff recommends that the Planning Commission recommend approval
of the special use permit, SP #90-03, to reconstruct the pump
islands and to construct a car wash, with the following
stipulations:
1. The petitioner shall submit a landscape plan prior to the
issuance of a building permit.
2. Approval of the variance request, VAR #90-04.
3. Joint driveway/parking easements shall be recorded against
both the Amoco and the VFW parcels.
4. A grading and drainage plan shall be submitted prior to the
issuance of a building permit.
5. The existing mercury light standards shall be replaced with
more modern high pressure sodium standards.
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APPEALS DATE r�arc� 20, 1990
CITY OF PLAN�VG COAIMSSION DATE
FRtDLEY CRY (�I�VqL DATE May 21, 1990 ��� NIl�i:yS
REQUEST
PERMIT NUMBER
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PROPOSED REQUEST
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F�CONrMENDATION
VAR #90-04
Bcab Ring, Bob's Amoco
l�duoe hard surfaoe setback, sideyard setback, and
required lot area
7680 Highway 65 N.E.
29,040 sq. ft.
N�1, Light Industrial
N�1, Lic�t Indt�trial to south & west; C-2, General
to east; Snring Lake Park to north
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Yes
Yes
Gmtmc�vater oontami.nation system to be i n��lled along
south lot line.
See Staff Report
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VAR �90-04, Bob's AmoCo
Page 2
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PURPOSE SERVED BY REQUIREMENT:
section 205.17.o3.D.(2).(a) requires a minimum side yard
eetback of 30 feet where a driveway is to be provided.
Public purpose served by this requirement is to provide
adequate open space around industrial structures for aesthetic
and fire fighting purposes.
Section 205.17.03.A.(i) requires a minimum lot area of 3/4
acre for one main building on plats recorded before January
1, 1983.
Public purposes served by this requirement is to provide for
adequate parking, open landscaped areas, and to limit
congestion of industrial areas.
Section 205.17.05.D.(5).(a) requires all parking and hard
surface areas to be no closer than 20 feet from any street
right-of-way.
Public purpose served by this requirement is t
encroachment into neighboring sight lines and
aesthetically pleasing open areas adjacent to
of-ways.
STATED HARDSHIP:
o limit visual
to allow for
public right-
"The existing building as located on the property has placed
restrictions on the location of the proposed drive-thru car
wash. If placed elsewhere on the site, it would cause loss
of parking stalls, staqinq area, and snow storage on this
site."
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW:
Request
Bob Ring is requesting three variances for the Amoco Station
at 7680 Highway 65 N.E. These variances are as follows:
To reduce the required hard surface setback from 20 feet
to 5 feet; to reduce the required lot area from 36,679
sq. ft. to 29,040 sq. ft.; and to reduce the side yard
setback to the building from 30 feet to 4 feet.
The petitioner is proposing to add a 17 ft. x 48 ft. car wash
addition to the rear of the existing building.
Staff Report
VAR #90-04, Bob's Amoco
Page 3
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The site is located at the intersection of Osborne Road and
Highway 65. It is currently zoned M-1, Light Industrial, with
additional light industrial zoning to the south and west of
the parcel; Spring Lake Park to the north; and C-2, General
Business zoning to the east.
The petitioner has also applied for a special use permit for
the reconstruction of the gas pumps under the M-1 district
regulations and both the reconstruction of the gas pumps and
the car wash addition under the C-2 district regulations; and
a rezoning to rezone the site from M-1, Light Industrial, to
C-2, General Business.
Analysis
Located on the site is a small convenience store, service
station, and car wash. One of the service station bays was
converted to a car wash in 1985. There are also five
driveways accessing the site, two from Osborne Road and three
from the private service drive along the east property line.
The proposed site plan will close two of these driveways.
Lot Area
The zoning code requires that all parcels zoned M-1, Light
Industrial, be 3/4 acre (36,679 sq. ft.) in size. This parcel
is only 2/3 acre (29,040 sq. ft.) in size. Staff is
recommending approval of this variance, as denying the
variance would render the site non-conforming and unusable.
Also, if the rezoning from M-1 to C-2 is approved, this
variance will not be necessary as the minimum lot size in the
C-2 zoning district is 20,000 sq. ft.
Hard Surfaae 8etback
On the proposed site plan, the petitioner is changing the
direction of the pump islands from a direct north/south layout
to a 45 degree anqle northwest/southeast layout. This allows
for 6 vehicles to be fueling at one time and also 6 vehicles
to be waiting. However, this does require additional hard
surface area and reduces the required hard surface setback
from the required 20 feet to the requested 5 feet.
Staff has explored two other alternatives which would allow
the petitioner to meet the required setback. However, both
of these alternatives would reduce the amount of available
stacking space for vehicles waiting, and this would, in turn,
Staff Report
VAR #90-04, Bob's Amoco
Page 4
reduce the number of customers able to visit t�e site at any
given time. One of these alternatives is to maintain the
north/south line-up of the pump islands and shift the islands
south in order to maintain a 25 ft. driving aisle from
the hard surface setback and t2me proposed canopy and pump
island. The other alternative would be to reduce the angle
from 45 degrees to 30 degrees. This would allow the
petitioner to maintain the 6 vehicles fueling and up to 6
vehicles waiting. This would reduce the requested variance
from 20 feet to 10 or il feet.
Bide YarB 8etback
The petitioner is proposing to constnxct an attached car wash
on the rear of the building which would reduce the required
side yard setback from 30 feet to 4 feet. The VFW on the
parcel to the west of the site has a setback of 5 feet to the
east property line. This would allow only a 9 foot building
separation between the two buildings. Also, the VFW would be
required to remove an existing window on the east wall and
would have t� rep�ace it with matching masonry block.
Staff is proposing that an accessory building for the car wash
could be constructed on the south end of the parcel. The
construction of a car wash at this location would reduce the
amount of extra parking the g�etitioner is proposing to have;
however, the petitioner would still be able to meet the code
requirement of 9 spaces on the parcel. Also, if constructed
at this portion of the site, the detached car wash would have
a minimum amount of stacking space, approximately 2 extra cars
would be allowed to wait to enter the car wash before
interfering with the traffic at the pump islands. This option
is also valid only if the request to rezone to C-2, General
Business, is approved, as an attached car wash is not
permitted in the M-1 zoning district. However, if denied, the
petitioner still has an existing car wash in one of the
existing service bays. If the petitioner needs four service
bays and a car wash, he also has the option of adding an
additional bay. It may be difficult to exit the car wash in
the winter as there is often ice and snow build-up, and
exiting cars may slide toward the VFW building. However, the
petitioner still has reasonable use of the site without the
proposed car wash addition.
If the Appeals Commission chooses to approve this variance
request, the petitioner should incur the cost of the removal
of the window in the VFW building.
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VAR #90-04, Bob's Amoco
Page 5
Recommendation/Stipulations
Staff recommends that the hard surface setback and side yard
setback variance requests be denied on the basis that the
petitioner has alternatives which would allow him to m►eet the
code. This would allow the petitioner to increase the amount
of green space on the site for snow storage and storm water
detention area. Staff does recommend approval of the lot area
variance which, if the rezoning request is approved, will not
be necessary. Staff recommends the following stipulations for
approval of the lot area variance:
l. The southern-most driveway along the private service
road shall be reduced to 32 feet.
2. The northern-most driveway along the private service
drive shall be increased to 25 feet.
3. Approval of the special use permit request.
If the other two variances are approved, the following
stipulations are recommended:
1. The southern-most driveway along the private service
road shall be reduced to 32 feet.
2. The northern-most driveway along the private service
drive shall be increased to 25 feet.
3. The petitioner shall incur the cost of the removal
of the window in the VFW building.
4. Approval of the special use permit request
5. Approval of the rezoning request.
AApeals Commission Action
The Appeals Commission voted unanimously to recommend approval
of the request to the City Council. The following amended
stipulations were recommended.
l. The petitioner shall work with City staff and the
VFW to resolve building code and traffic issues.
2. Approval of the special use permit request
3. Approval of the rezoning request
Staff Report
VAR #90-04, Bob's Amoco
Page six
Staff inet with the petitioner and representatives of the VFW
on Friday, March 29, 1990. The petitioner and the VFW
representatives agreed that it would be best if access between
the two parcels was kept open. This will allow traffic from
the VFW to exit through the Amoco property.
Staff also reinspected the site and determined tha� the window
would not have to be closed.
City Council Recommendation
Staff recommends that the City Council deny the request as the
petitioner has two other alternatives which would allow him
to meet code.
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Chairperson Sherek called the Iiarch 1, 1990, 8uman Re�ources
Commission meeting to order at 7:37 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Membere Present:
Members Absent:
Others Present:
Sue Sherek, Sue Jackson, LeRoy Oquist,
l+tarija xetz
Paul Westby
Steve Barq, Planning Assistant
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MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Ms. Jackson, to approve the
February 1, 1990, Human Resourcea Commission minut�s as written.
IIPON 71 VOIC$ VOTB, �►LL vo�ri�a �►�ra, CSl1IRPERBON B8EREIC DECLIIRED TSE
I[OTION Cl1RRIED IIIi�TZ1�tOD8LY.
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MOTION by Ms. Jackson, seconded by Ms. Netz, to approve the agenda
as written.
IIPON 71 VOICE VOTE, !►LL VOTIliG 71YE, C871IRF�R80� BHEREIC DECL�lRBD THE
ItOTIO'T CARRIED Qli71NIM408I.Y.
1. OLD BUSINESS:
a. Opdat• on �to tault Gri�vanc• Traiainq
Mr. Barq stated the only other request the Department of
Human Riqhts has received is one from the City of
Crystal. TAe Department wants to do one basic traininq
and one advanced traininq. Al1 the Department needs is
a place and a date.
Ms. Sherek stated she would like the advanced training
for Fridley unless the traininq team and materials are
not yet in place. She suqgested May 5-6 or �pril 28-29.
She also asked staff to tell whoever does the training
to brinq their owr► audio visual equipment.
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Mr. Barq stated that if the sessions qo more than 4-5
hours, the City could provide box lunches to be paid for
by the persons takinq the training.
b. Qpdato on Coapr�h�nsive Plan Process
Mr. Barq stated this process goes to the Council on March
12, 1990. He stated the Commission will be reviewing the
following chapters: Transportation, Housing, and a
special chapter entitled Human Resources. It is hoped
the Commission will review these chapters by late summer,
making commente and recommendations to the City Council.
2. NEW BUSINESS:
a. Consid�ratfoa oi HRC Bection oi Commission orientation
Mr. Barg stated this was included in the aqenda packet
for the Commission's review. He had outlined the
Commission's role and then outlined two duties of the
Commission, CDBG and No-Fault Grievance, with examples
of those duties.
Ms. Jackson stated it was very nicely written.
Ms. Sherek aqreed. However, regarding the paraqraph on
No-Fault Grievance, she has received a larqe number of
filinqe with the State Department of Human Rights against
Fridley employers, larqe and small--mainly allegations
of age discrimination and sex discrimination. For awhile
the level of complains were fairly constant at 1-2 per
month, and now she is seeing 4-5 per week. Maybe the
Commission should discuss the possibility of getting some
information from the State Department of Human Riqhts and
put together a package that can be sent out to the
various employers in the City of Fridley telling them
about the Human Riqhts Statutes and how these statutes
apply to employment.
Ms. Jackson stated that maybe in addition to informinq
employers, they can suggest that the local newspaper do
an investigative report to promote community awareness.
Mr. Oquist stated he is not surprised at the age
discrimination, because that is typical of what
"corporate America" is doinq today. Most of these
companies are doing it. In today's environment, they
can get away with it, because more people are looking for
work and it is becominq harder to do anythinq about it.
He stated it probably would not hurt to send out
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information to businesses, but, for the most part,
businesses do not care.
Ms. Sherek stated one thing that was done several years
ago that seemed to be effective was to secure literat$nd
on no-fault qrievances, Bend it to the company,
request that it be posted on the bulletin board. It
increased the level of complaints, but it�cri n g t was
tenor of the response from the company
contacted by a No-Fault Grievance Committee member.
Ms. Netz stated she thouqht it certainly wouldn't hurt
to increase people's awareness. She would think that
with t11e aqinq of the population that businesses would
�tart keepinq older people in the job market. It was
Burprisinq to her to learn that this is not happeninq.
Ms. Jackson stated she thouqht it would be appropriate.
to do a mailinq.
Ms. Sherek suqgested that Ms. Jackson draft an article
for the Fridley Focus on the No-Fault Grievance process
and statinq that people who have been discriminated
against can call the Municipal Center.
Mr, garq stated he had materials available that would be
useful in putting a news release toqether for
publication.
Mr. Barg asked if the Commission members were satisfied
with the wording of the Commi�sion's Role.
The Commissioners agreed they were, that no changes were
needed.
Mr. garq stated that when the entire �i�tosthe
Orientatio�nr�suCommissionlfor�reviewll bring
Human Res
b. Consideration o� 7►lt�rnatives Bhovinq Bupport for c�s�/
�tational Co�sunitY D�v�lopasnt Roak
I+I=. Barg stated that he had included in the agenda
information regardinq National Community Development
Week. The information stronqly suQqests that the CDBG
proqram may be cut or reduced in future years . He stated
the fourth annual observance of 199'��onal cit ies nand
Development Week is April 7- 14,
counties are urged to do something to show their support
for the CDBG proqram bY passing a resolution or writing
a letter to Conqress stating the thinqs that have been
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made possible with CDHG funds. He stated a sample
resolution was outlined in the information.
Mr. Barq stated he has talked to Ms. Dacy about this, and
she thouqht it would be very worthwhile to draft either
a resolution and/or a letter to be sent on to the Council
for approval statinq the thinqs that have been made
possible with CDBG funds and the Commission's feelings
about the importance of keepinq the CDBG program in
place.
Mr. Barg stated other thinqs suggested were articles in
the local newspaper and spots on local cable TV.
Ms. Sherek stated it would be appropriate now as the FY-
91 federal budqet is in the process of being debated
during the months of February and March. She did not
think very many people are aware that the federal budget
will be set in April for 1991.
Ms. Sherek stated she thought a letter from the Fridley
Human Resources Commission to Congressman Sikorski and
the two state senators would be far more effective than
a resolution from the City Council.
Ms. Sherek stated the letter should reflect that the City
of Fridley has benefited from the human services portion
of COBG monies in the last several years in the areas of
mental health, food shelf assistance, handicapped and
disabled, senior outreach worker; and the City of Fridley
finds this assistance vital to some of these programs and
would therefore like to see CDBG funding continued, if
not increased, in future years.
Ms. Jackson stated she wouid like all the Commission
members to siqn this letter as constituents, not just the
Human Resources Commission as a body.
MOTION by Ms. Jackson, seconded by Ms. Netz, to draft and
send a letter to Congressman Sikorski and Senator
Durenberqer and Senator Boschwitz Bupporting the
continuation of CDBG funding.
Ms. Sherek asked
Minnesota who is
there is, then a
person as well.
if there was anyone within the State of
on the Appropriations Committee. If
copy of this letter should go to that
IIPON A VOICE VOTB, ALL VOTING 71Y$, CHAIRPBRSON BHERER
DBCLi�IRED THE 1[OTIO�i CI,RRIBD IINl�NIMOIIBLY.
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Mr. Barq stated that on Monday, Feb. 26, 1990, the
Council approved the recommendations made by the Hwaan
Resources Commission for CDHG fundinq which means human
services will receive $33,291, just sliqhtly less than
last year. Notices have been sent to the Fridley Focus
and cable TV to solicit applications. He will be sendinq
letters to last year's applicants and other orqanizations
that have indicated an interest in applying.
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MOTION by Mr. Oquist,
meetinq. vpon a vofa�
deciar•d tb� ltarah 1,
adjourn�d at 8:30 p.a.
Respectfully mitted,
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Recording Secretary
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seconded by Ms. Jackson, to adjourn the
vot�, ail votfaq ap�, chairporson eb�r�k
i990, Hu�aa it�sourc�� Co�ission '��tiaq
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CITY OF �RIDLBY
Pl�R1C8 11ND RECREATIO�i COIrII�IIBBION M8$TI�ia, l[71RCH 5, 1990
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eA�T TO ORDER:
Chairperson Kondrick called the March 5, 1990, Parks and
Recreation Commission meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present:
Members Absent:
Dave Kondrick, Mary Schreiner, Dick Young,
Tim Solberq
John Gargaro
Others Present: Jack Kirk, Director of Recreation and
Natural Resources
Mark McCown, Fridley Jaycees
Bob Schmidt, Fridley Jaycees
Ralph Vollaaan, Public Works Department
,�„�, �,enn vnuua AND RECREATION COMMISSION
A PROVAL Ur� r��nxur,sc� �, i» �• ----
MINUTES•
MOTION by Mr. Young, seconded by Ms. Schreiner, to approve the
February 5, 1990, Parks and Recreation Commission minutes as
written.
IIPON A VOICB VOTE, lrLL VOTING AYE, C8l�IRPBRSON 1CONDRICR D$CLARED
THE MOTION CPiRRIED ONANIMOIISLY.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
�i TQ ION by Ms. Schreiner, seconded by Mr. Solberg, to approve the
agenda with the change that item 3-a, "Fridley Jaycees - Softball
Tournaments" be moved to item 1.
IIPON ATIONCCARRIED �ONl�NIldOIIBLY 11ND TH$Il�aBNDA l�PPROVEDRASECLARED
THE MO
AMENDED.
1. FRIDLEY JAYCEES - SOFTBALL TOURNAMENTS
Mr. Kirk stated that at the last meeting when the Commission
members approved the two tournament requests by the Jaycees,
the Commission approved the requests at the non-profit
organization rental fee of $600 and a$50/day concession
stand fee, but leaving the option open for the Jaycees to
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make a proposal for a possible donation in lieu of the
rental fee, similar to what they did last year. He stated
Mr. Mark McCown and Mr. Bob Schmidt are at the meeting to
make a proposal to the Commission.
Mr. Schmidt stated the Jaycees would like to present a check
in the amount of $5,000 to the Park Board from their
charitable gambling monies. They would like the money to be
used to computerize the City's recreation registration
process and the remaining monies to be used for the summer
programs. This donation would be in lieu of the tournament
rental fees.
Mr. Schmidt stated the Jaycees continue to sponsor the
Springbrook Nature Center Easter festivities and the Haunted
Halloween party. He stated they plan to make a donation to
the Fridley Senor Center and the Early Childhood Learning
Center.
Mr. Schmidt stated this donation is their way of saying
"thank you" to the City of Fridley for all it has done for
the Fridley Jaycees.
Mr. Kondrick stated the Parks and Recreation Commission and
the Recreation and Natural Resource Department, as well as
the City of Fridley, are very fortunate to have an
organization like the Jaycees and they are very grateful for
this generous donation. He stated a donation of this kind
is incredible. He stated the donation will be used as
requested by the Jaycees.
Mr. Kirk stated one of the Recreation and Natural Resource
Department's goals is to computerize the registration
process. At this time they only have one PC with word
processing and no opportunity to use it for registrations.
They need one more PC that can be put at the counter and
used for registrations. He believed they can get the
hardware needed to be compatible with the City's system for
approximately $2,000 and another $1,000 for software. That
leaves approximately $2,000 for summer programs. They were
able to purchase a lot of supplies last year with the
Jaycees donation that could not have been purchased with
just the summer programming budget. He stated the Jaycees
have come through again for the Department, and this is a
fantastic donation.
Ms. Schreiner stated that the Jaycees have done very well
this year and should be commended for their good leadership.
Mr. McCown stated the new President of their Chapter is Tom
Brunmeier who is very community oriented. If all goes well
and they are able to continue to use charitable gambling
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monies, there is nothinq out of siqht that
not be able to do to help. The City is to
contact the Jaycees whenever they need som
2. STAFF REPORT•
a.
b.
c.
Proqram �pdate
the Jaycees will
feel free to
e help.
Mr. Kirk stated the Commission members had received the
monthly program update dated March 5, 1990, which
reported on the skating rinks, Minnesota State Bicycle
Conference, program registration, Service Club
Olympics, Senior Center hiqhlight in Star Tribune
(featurinq Connie Thompson), Senior "Foot Care"
Program, attempted break-in at Springbrook Nature
Center, advanced hunter class at Springbrook, and the
Minnesota Recreation and Park Association State
Conference.
Sprinq !►ctivities
Mr. Kirk stated registration has been going for about
1-1/2 weeks. He stated the activities are filling up
rather rapidly.
Ms. Schreiner stated the names and locations of the
parks are listed on the back of the recreation
brochures. She suqgested that a graph be made up
listing the parks and all the various activities that
are featured at each park. She stated this is done by
the DNR for state parks, and there are other
communities that do it.
Mr. Kirk stated one of the goals this year for the
Parks and Recreation Department is to print a new park
map, and a graph like that could be put on the park map
also.
Mr. Young stated they should also include all the
county parks in Fridley such as Riverfront Park, Locke
Park, Mahnomen Park, Islands of Peace Park, and the
Rice Creek area by Medtronic.
Mr. Kondrick stated Ms. Schreiner's suggestion is an
excellent one for future recreation brochures.
8katinq Rfnk Report
Mr. Kirk handed out a copy of the attendance figures
for the 1989-1990 skating season. He stated this was
not a typical season because of the extremely cold
weather in December and then the extremely warm weather
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in January and February. The numbers are way down from
the beginning of February until the rinks were closed.
Mr. Young stated the number of skaters at Moore Lake
was rather impressive at 825.
Mr. Kirk stated that is attendance for just the hockey
rink as there is no general skating area at Moore Lake.
Mr. Young stated the numbers are very high at Ruth
Circle Park.
Mr. Kirk stated there are many children in this area.
Mr. Kondrick stated these figures can be used for
comparison with next year's figures although they are
not a good barometer because of the peculiar weather.
d. 1990 Department Qoals and Objectives
Mr. Kirk stated staff has been working with the City
Manager on department goals and objectives. These will
be formally presented to the City Council late
March/early April. He stated he thought it might be
helpful to review these with the Commission so they
know the direction staff is looking at for 1991.
Mr. Kirk reviewed the objectives and activities for
each objective. The objectives were:
(1) To acknowledge the 10 year anniversary of the
grand opening of Springbrook Nature Center's
Interpretive building.
(2) To improve the appearance of the Springbrook
Nature Center entrance.
(3) To provide new, timely, and innovative
programming/environmental learning opportunities
to the community.
(4) To develop a comprehensive volunteer support
network to service the Fridley Senior Center.
(5) To complete and distribute a combined Reference
and Discount booklet for senior citizens.
(6) To provide elementary age and middle school age
after-school activities and "non-school days"
special events.
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(7) To increase transportation opportunities for
elementary age youth participatinq in after-school
activities and summer playground programs.
(8) To improve office efficiency by producing
professional administrative forms with all
registration and rental procedures.
(9) To provide an activity/picnic building at Commons
Park.
(10) To provide a central storage building/concession
stand at Little Leaque baseball fields.
Mr. Kirk stated staff will be bringing the new 5 year
capital improvement program to the Commission for review at
the next meeting.
Mr. Young stated that for the last couple of years, shop
students from Fridley Hiqh School have built a house. Staff
might want to consider approachinq the High School to see if
they would be willing to build, rather than a house, a new
structure at the Little League fields. It would save the
City most of the labor costs.
Mr. Kirk thanked Mr. Younq for that suqqestion.
2. NEW BUSINESS•
a. N.$. Chamber Orchestra Requests
Mr. Kirk stated the N.E. Chamber Orchestra is
submitting two requests to the City for the 1991
calendar year. The Chamber is requesting the City
raise the per concert rate which has not been raised
since 1984 from $150/concert to $200/concert.
Mr. Kirk stated the second request is for the City to
fund one-half the cost of a electronic synthesizer.
The estimated total cost is $1,500-2,000.
Ms. Schreiner stated that if the City funds half of the
electronic synthesizer, who owns it and where would it
be stored? They would also have to put together some
type of policy for its use.
Mr. Younq atated it something that could be used by the
City Band, too.
Ms. Schreiner asked about the possibility of usinq
donated funds from the Fridley Lions or Jaycees to help
fund the synthesizer.
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Mr. Kirk stated there is no money budgeted for this
type of expenditure for this year. The earliest it
could be budqeted is for 1991. Donations are always
possibility, but maybe instead of the Chamber
requesting donated funds from the City, the Chamber
should approach these organizations on their own and
get funds donated directly. He can suqgest to the
Chamber that there are other funding sources within
City.
MOTION by Mr. Younq, seconded by Ms. Schreiner, to
receive the letter from the N.E. Chamber Orchestra
dated February 6, 1990, regarding the purchase of an
electronic synthesizer; and to put this item on the
list of possible capital outlay expenditures for the
1991 budget since funds are not available in 1990.
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IIPON l�i VOIC$ VOT$, ALL VOTINQ 71YE, CHAIRP8R80N RONDRICR
DECLARED TH$ MOTION CARRIED DNANIMOIIBLY.
Ms. Schreiner stated that in the past, the Commission
has felt the Chamber members should be paying some type
of fee to play in the orchestra. At one time, the
Chamber was not reimbursed for concerts; they played
for free. Then, the Commission agreed to pay them
$150/concert to help pay the director's salary.
Obviously, these people derive pleasure from playing in
the orchestra or they wouldn't do it, but should they
be getting paid to do something they like to do?
Mr. Young stated that, with other activities and
programs, people pay fees to participate.
Mr. Kirk stated that at one time, the City paid the
director's salary. The Commission later discussed the
fact that the City does not pay FYSA coaches and other
volunteers so why should the City pay for the Chamber
director? That is when they decided to go with the per
concert rate.
O ION by Mr. Young, seconded by Ms. Schreiner, to
accept the letter dated February 6, 1990, from the
Northeast Chamber reqarding the request to raise the
per concert fee.
IIPON A VOIC$ VOTB, ALL VOTING ]�YB, CHAIRPER80N RONDRICK
DECLARED THB 1riOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY.
Mr. Kirk stated that in his initial 1991 budget
information to the department heads, the City Manager
said this was going to be a year for "belt-tightening",
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and that there is not qoing to be much money available.
for increasing expenditures.
Ms. Schreiner stated she would like to have the Chamber
explain their financinq. How much is the director
paid, how much is the music expenditure, etc.?
Mr. Younq stated the Chamber may have other income
sources also.
Mr. Solberq stated he did not know if it is necessary
to have the Chamber come to the Commission with this
information.
MOTION by Ms. Schreiner, seconded by Mr. Solberg, that
due to the budget tightening process requested by the
City Manager, the Parks and Recreation Commission
cannot qrant an increase in the per concert rate to the
Northeast Chamber Orchestra, but will continue to pay
the Chamber $150/concert for a maximum of five concerts
per year.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING 11YE, CHAIRP$RSON RONDRICR
DECLARED TH8 l�[OTION CARRIED DNANIMOIISLY.
Mr. Kirk asked if the Commission would still like to
see some financial information from the Chamber, the
addresses of the members, and any dues paid by the
members.
Ms. Schreiner and Mr. Younq said, yes, they would still
like to request that information. Mr. Young stated it
is information they request of other organizations the
City helps support, such as the FYSA.
Ms. Schreiner stated the Commission should review that
information before a check is issued to the Chamber for
their first concert.
c. RivervieM 8aiqhts park
Mr. Kirk stated the Commission has received a copy of a
memo from the Community Development Department dated
February 16, 1990, regarding the 1990 Community Block
Grant Allocation and Riverview Heights Acquisitions.
He stated there is not enough CDBG money to purchase
either Parcel 4 or Parcel 5 outriqht for next year.
The Community Development Department is suggesting to
the Council the following options:
1. Proceed to trade funds with another community,
realizing that the amount borrowed in 1990 to
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acquire Parcel 5 would have to be returned in
1991. This would postpone acquisition of Parcel 4
until 1992. CDBG funds may or may not be
available in 1992 depending on congressional
action.
2. Decide not to acquire Parcel 5 or Parcel 4.
3. Proceed with acquisition of Parcel 5 and trade
money with another community, but decide not to
acquire Parcel 4.
Mr. Kirk stated staff is looking for input from the
Parks and Recreation Commission. He stated he would
recommend pursuing option #1.
The Commissioners agreed.
MOTION by Mr. Young, seconded by Ms. Schreiner, to
recommend the City Council pursue option #1.
IIPON A VOIC$ VOTE, l�LL VOTING AYB, CSl�IRP�RSON 1CONDRICR
DECLARED THE KOTION Cl�RRIED �NANIMOIISLY.
c. Flanery Park Buildiaq
Mr. Kirk stated they are getting close to getting the
specs out on a proposed building for Flanery Park.
They have followed the building that was recommended
last year by the Commission, which was a double
hexagon-type building, 35 ft. diameter. One of the
hexagons would be enclosed as a warming house and
activity shelter. The other hexagon would be an open-
air picnic shelter.
Mr. Kirk stated staff wanted some input from the
Commission before proceeding and the Commission's
recommendations on the type of roofing, flooring,
windows, interior walls, etc.
Mr. Young asked how feasible it would be to look at air
conditioning for this building. The cost of a small
whole house air conditioner is around $1,000.
Mr. Kirk stated he thought the energy costs would be
quite high, and it was his opinion that there woul,d be
negative reaction to such a proposal. In a summer
playground program, there are children going in and out
and that would drive the energy costs up.
Mr. Solberg asked if the windows served any specific
purpose other than merely to provide some light. He
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etated maybe ekylights could be put in instead of
windows which miqht eliminate some of the vandalism
problems.
Mr. Kirk stated windows certainly do invite vandalism.
and they are looking at protective devices for the
windows. One advantaqe with having windows is that
rink attendants can look out to see what is qoing on.
Riqht now most of the buildings do not have any
windows, and the attendant has to walk outside to check
the rinks; and then the building is unprotected.
Mr. Younq stated that the Building Code may require
wir►dows for egress from the building in the event of
fire since there is only one door. He was surprised
that the building only had one door.
Mr. Kirk stated he was sure that because of the size of
the building and its capacity, only one door is needed.
He stated he would check on this again. He stated he
thought windows would add to the building in terms of
appearance, ventilation, and natural lightinq.
The Commission members accepted the location of the
building as being appropriate for the site as well as
the overall design of the building.
The Commission members agreed with shingles for the
type of roofing.
The Commission members aqreed with concrete flooring in
the shelter with rubber matting during the ice skating
season.
The Commission members agreed with some type of
security devices for the windows to prevent vandalism.
Staff should look into windows made of Lexan instead of
glass.
The Commission members agreed with the interior walls
being constructed out of wood as long as there is no
concern for vandalism. They felt the walls around the
restrooms and storage area should be masonry but were
concerned about the cost of block versus wood.
Mr. Voll�an stated this is going to be a supervised
building, and he did not see the need for any masonry
walls.
Mr. Solberg stated he wondered if this building is
really larqe enough.
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Mr. Young stated the usable space is 413 sq. ft. Maybe
staff should find out from the Fire Chief and the
Building Inspector how many people are allowed in 413
sq. ft.
Mr. Kondrick stated maybe they should have a 45 ft.
building. This 35 ft. building does seem too small.
Mr. Kirk stated it is his understandinq that the 413
sq. ft. excluded the bathrooms and storage, so the
usable space was approximately the equivalent of a 20
ft. x 20 ft. garaqe.
Mr. Young asked if there was any way to have the
building larger and the open air shelter area smaller.
For summer playground use, the children could be both
indoors and outdoors.
Mr. Kirk stated that a feature of the open air shelter
is that when the building is closed, the open air
shelter is available for use at any time by anyone
using the park. The building itself would only be open
when there is a supervisor. In the summer, most of the
programming will be outside because it is cooler.
Mr. Young asked if the building will be available for
use by the community for meetings. Since one of the
goals for 1991 is to offer more after-school activities
which may or may not have to be located in a school,
programming could be looked at for this building. That
is also something to consider regarding the size of the
building.
Mr. Kirk stated the Commission will have to look at
guidelines for uses and rental.
Mr. Kondrick stated staff can provide additional
information, possibly for the next meeting.
3. OLD BUSINESS•
a. Canada Goose Control Project
Mr. Kirk stated the Commissioners has a copy of a memo
he had written to the City Manager dated February 13,
1990. The recommendation to enter into an agreement
with the University of Minnesota for a four-year goose
control proqram at Moore Lake Beach beginninq with the
summer of 1990 will go before the City Council on
Monday, March 12, 1990. It is a$4,000 program, $1,000
per year for four years. He will try to have Jim
Cooper from the University of Minnesota or a
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representative at the Council meeting to answer
questions.
Mr. Kirk stated Mr. Burns has had several requests to
include Harris Lake in the goose control proqram. It
is Mr. Burns' feeling that unless Harris Lake can be
included with Moore Lake at the same cost, the Council
will probably go just with Moore Lake. Mr. Cooper will
be surveying the sites and will make that
determination.
Mr. Kirk stated it would also be very helpful for
Parks and Recreation Commission member(s) to attend the
Council meeting on March 12.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION by Ms. Schreiner, seconded by Mr. Solberg, to adjourn the
meeting. IIpon a voiae vote, all votinq aye, Chairpersoa 1Condrick
declared the March 5, 1990, Parks and Rocreatfon Commissfon
meetinq adjournea at 9:2o p.m.
Res ectfully su mitted,
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Lyn Saba
Recording Secretary
CITY OF FRIDLEY
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY & ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING
MARCH 6, 1990
CALL TO ORD� :
Chairperson Dahlberg
called the March 6, 1990, Environmental
Quality & Energy Commission meeting to order at 7:40 p.m.
ROLL CAL�'
Members Present:
Members Absent:
Others Present:
Paul Dahlberg, Dean Saba, Bradley Sielaff, Rich
Svanda
Bruce Bondow, Steve Stark
Lisa Campbell, Planning Assistant
CO_IgSION MINU��
OT ON by
Mr. Svanda, seconded by Mr. Sielaff, to approve the
January 30, 1990, minutes of the Environmental Quality & nerg
Commission meeting.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON DAHLBERG DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANII''IOUSLY .
1. ,s�� nTtgINESS •
a, Video Presentation
Mr. Saba showed the l�s�lent presentedeon Good Morning
recorded from a specia 9� The video
America, entitled "Prescription for Elast,ic recycling,
covered the topics of forestatiri ►W th the environment
water, global warming, and shopp 9 ort, Act,
in mind. They used the acronym S.A.V.E. (Supp
Vote, �ducate).
Mr. Saba would like t these issues�lOne areac could�be
pro-active concerning a better
shoppinq for the environment to makeb�ook Nat re Center
place environmentally to live. Spring xe
has activities planned to celebrate Eart flyer�which
distributed an example of an Earth Day
includes the City as eaheldi the weekend of Apr 1e20a22h
Day celebration will b
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ENERGY COMKISSION MBETINQ. 1dARCH 6, 1990 PAGE 2
On Sunday, April 22, there will be a rally at the State
Capitol. Churches and schools in the City are also
getting involved. One class is preparing a petition to
take action to protect the environment. He felt Earth
Day provided a good opportunity to get involved; however,
it is late. He asked that the Earth Day activity be put
on the billboard in front of City Hall.
Ms. Campbell stated she would be at a booth for the
recycling program. A comprehensive plan outline has been
written. Waste reduction will be a part of the 90's.
The display for environmental shopping has been stored
at the Nature Center and will be used for Earth Day.
Mr. Saba stated he would also like to see the larger
stores involved. Greenpeace is a sponsor of Earth Day,
but this is a more extreme group. The City could
participate by taking part in and/or promoting the
activities at the Nature Center.
Mr. Svanda stated he saw in the "Fridley Focus" a
sprinkling ban. There could be something on water usage.
Ms. Campbell felt they could disseminate information on
all of the issues, with a focus on the "E" for educate.
Mr. Saba felt there
in terms of working
or Target, to have
Day.
were other things that could be done
with larger stores, such as Holiday
them hand out information on Earth
Mr. Dahlberg felt it important to provide information,
but not force anyone to take a position.
Mr. Saba stated Dakota County had a handout about
shopping environmentally. Individuals can also write
companies that they bought a competitor's product because
of the packaging.
Mr. Svanda asked if a brochure would be supported.
Mr. Dahlberg recommended preparing information and/or
educational materials that can help make residents aware
of what can be done or what is available. This can be
promoted through the cable TV, articles sent to the
Fridley Focus, and expanded.
Mr. Saba stated that Springbrook is going to ask the
Mayor for a Proclamation for Earth Day. Should this
proclamation also include the City rather than just the
Nature Center? Churches and schools are planning various
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activities around
City of Fridley be
Nature Center has
would like to see
least brochures.
Earth Day. He would like to see the
a leader in Earth Day activities. The
three days of activities planned. He
either a kick-off of some sort or at
Mr. Dahlberg stated that, when the Nature Center made the
initial contact to have representation from the Council
and/or this Commission, he felt that would be a
significant contribution by the City. There are not
enough resources to make a big impact; however, they may
prefer not to look at it some of these issues beyond
Earth Day, but rather as a part of the workplan that can
be done throughout the year.
Ms. Campbell stated that the Nature Center will be re-
using the programming from the grant that the City got
from the Met Council. The environmental shopping display
goes into the topic of waste reduction. It is very
accurate, and it could be the focus of Earth Day.
Mr. Saba felt it would be nice if there was a handout
available that day or relative information in the Focus.
Mr. Dahlberg asked what major issues would be stressed
at the Nature Center.
Mr. Saba stated that all environmental elements would be
covered. In addition would be the Mayor's Proclamation
and people would be asked to sign an Earth Covenant,
which basically states they would try to take better care
of the environment.
Ms. Campbell stated that Siah St. Clair, Director of
Springbrook Nature Center, is sensitive to the activist
label. She suggested expanding recycling to include
waste reduction. That could also be expanded to include
environmental shoppinq. This could begin to address some
of the things discussed. She felt it important to
provide information, but at the time not make political
statements. �
Mr. Dahlberg asked Ms. Campbell to put the information
together into some plan of action.
Mr. Saba would like to have a brochure that announces
what the City provides for waste reduction.
Ms. Campbell stated she could have somethinq prepared for
distribution at the booth on Earth Day.
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Mr. Dahlberq asked
should be endorsed
proceeding.
if information to be distributed
by the City or authorized before
Ms. Campbell stated she could prepare information for the
next meeting and discuss it with Ms. Dacy. This could
then be placed on the agenda for a City Council meeting
in April.
Mr. Saba felt any announcements made would have more
impact if made during the week of the Earth Day
activities.
Mr. Svanda recommended tying in recycling, waste
reduction and yard waste management.
Mr. Saba stated that, in the reducing, re-using, and
recycling, there is more that people could do to re-use,
such as using the second side of a sheet of paper or
using ceramic cups rather than paper cups or styrofoam
cups.
Mr. Sielaff stated that the S.O.R.T. site recycles
materials that are not accepted as part of the curbside
program. He suggested promoting the S.O.R.T. site for
those particular products, such as plastic bottles and
used oil.
Ms. Campbell felt this may be overlapping the 1990 plan.
The City Manager wants to see as part of the next step
promotion and using public information tools. This is
something that would fit well as part of the workplan.
O�I TION by Mr. Svanda, seconded by Mr. Saba, to request
that staff spend time putting together a piece to be
distributed during Earth Day at the Springbrook Nature
Center that deals with recycling, waste reduction, and
yard waste management.
Mr. Saba felt this should include an element on some
kind of publicity to reaffirm the programs the City
already has.
Mr. Dahlberg suggested waiting on this until the
next meeting to see what they have, and then see
what information is necessary to get in the
newspaper or on cable TV.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON DAHLBERG
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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`-` Mr. Dahlberg presented an excerpt from an article in the
Teachers Federation Newsletter regarding Earth Day and
different thinqs that can be done in schools. The
article contained an address to write to for further
information.
b. 1990 Yard Waste Management Strategy
Ms. Campbell presented the material as an information
item. The recommendation was to operate a compost site
in the City as a transfer site. That decision was made
at an estimated cost of about $10,000 for transfer and
labor for loading trucks. The transfer will be a
contract service.
Mr. Saba asked if someone would monitor the site.
Ms. Campbell stated there would not be a monitor. The
haulers can pick up yard waste at the curb, but they must
take it to Anoka County and they are subject to a$3.50/
cubic yard surcharge. This will increase the cost for
pick-up. The County Board will vote on the 15th. The
City will meet on the contract on the 14th. They would
be exempt from a surcharge because it is a public
transfer site.
Mr. Dahlberg felt the Commission should continue to
discuss this because it is a volatile issue.
Mr. Saba asked how the site would be controlled.
Ms . Campbell stated this has been looked into . The costs
of a monitor, equipment, etc., raised the cost. It did
not make sense to qear up for part of the year for that
cost. This is being done as a management decision rather
than acting as a crisis situation.
Mr. Svanda stated he could envision the compost site
being abused. People will bring in their leaf bags,
brush, etc.
Ms. Campbell stated that the site will be closed if
abused. Last year, there was some dumping at the site.
With weekly transfers, it should be possible to keep a
handle on it and respond. It does not warrant the cost
of a monitor. The site will be evaluated on Friday to
see if there is enough quantity for pick up. The site
will be closed on Mondays which will allow a hauler to
come in and transfer the compost. If the site is abused,
it will be closed.
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Mr. Svanda stated that wood brush will not be hauled out
by the haulers.
Mr. Saba thought brush would be hauled but at an extra
charge. He would prefer to have a fee charged at the
compost site and use that to cover the cost of a monitor.
c. Survey Update
Ms . Campbell stated the survey in the packet is the f inal
survey. The only problem she had was that she did not
understand Question 22. Mary John, C. J. Olson, has done
253 surveys thus far. They plan to complete the survey
tomorrow. The tally and analys�s could be done by the
end of next week.
Mr. Dahlberg requested the Commission have at least a
preliminary report by the next meeting.
Mr. Sielaff stated he had been called as part of the
survey. When asked Question 9, why does he recycle, he
stated because it is environmentally sound, and the
person did not seem to understand.
Ms. Campbell felt that was because that answer could fit
into two areas and was sure they were trying to clarify.
Mr. Dahlberg asked if everything has gone according to
the proposal in contracting for the survey.
Ms. Campbell stated that the cost has stayed within the
10� of the quote. Councilmember Schneider had added
another question, 5.a., which put the cost into the
higher bracket. The City Council has approved and
endorsed the survey.
Ms. Campbell stated that the City has looked at the cost
of monitoring, and fees charged would not cover the
costs.
Mr. Dahlberg stated the site can be shut down and then
a decision made. Until the situation arises, they must
look and see how it works.
Mr. Sielaff asked who would determine that situation.
Ms. Campbell stated Bunker Hills would refuse the load
if there were other materials in the compost. It would
then become the responsibility for the City to handle the
rejected load.
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Mr. Svanda assumed a company would be called in to handle
wood brush .
d. Earth Day
Ms. Campbell has received a request from Julie Jones,
Recycling Coordinator for the City of Crystal, to
advertise their phone book drop-off at Brookdale by
placing an ad in the Fridley Focus. They felt the
residents may want to take advantage of this because of
the location.
Mr. Sielaff questioned the charqe for the ad. This is
a public service and felt it should be printed at no
cost.
Mr. Dahlberg asked if a copy of the ad had been supplied.
Ms. Campbell stated no. She had been contacted late in
the process. Telephone books are not recyclable through
the City's current programs.
Mr. Dahlberg wondered if there would be greater
participation because it is advertised. Residents can
take phone books there even if it is not advertised.
There must be an alternative which would be less than
the $588 stated in the memo.
Mr. Saba asked if it would be possible to have a business
such as Holiday or Target collect the books.
Ms. Campbell stated there is a company that will take
phone books, but only in tons. This is what the Cities
of Crystal and Brooklyn Park were faced with so they
combined to advertise the service to residents.
Mr. Dahlberg felt the issue was not the cost of
advertising. The City may spend money and inform
residents of the program; however, they have to bring the
books to Brookdale. He did not think many people would
make the trip. It may be more worthwhile to say they
would provide that money if a drop-off could be provided
in Fridley. Perhaps a truck could be parked in Fridley
for residents which will not only help get the tonnage
but also be more convenient for residents.
Ms. Campbell felt that most people have already thrown
out their telephone books, but felt this is an area that
could be developed for next year.
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Mr. Saba felt the phone company should take back the �
phone books. He will contact them and pose that question
to them.
Mr. Sielaff asked if the City needed to commit to a
certain number of tons.
Mr. Svanda stated the cost strikes him as wrong.
Mr. Dahlberg asked if there are any alternatives.
Ms. Campbell suggested putting an announcement on cable
to bring phone books to Brookdale on March 22. It is an
opportunity to re-emphasize recycling programs.
Mr. Saba asked if S.O.R.T. would take the phone books.
Ms. Campbell stated no, but this could be put into the
workplan for next year. There is room for working on
this issue. What about the cable alternative?
Mr. Saba felt that if they cannot get a drop site in the
City, then they should announce it on cable TV.
Mr. Dahlberg stated the City would do some advertising
on their own which will help their effort, but at less
cost.
e. Backyard Composting
Mr. Dahlberg stated he would like this item discussed
when Mr. Stark is present. There are a number of
concerns associated with this topic.
f. 1990 Workplan Discussion
The workplan was discussed as part of 3.a. Agenda for
March 29 Meeting.
g. January 1990 Solid Waste Abatement Activities
Ms. Campbell stated that 67 tons was an all time high.
This is a 44� participation rate. The participation
rates in the test areas have gone up to about 60� which
is above that of the rest of the City. Over time, the
bins do improve participation. Mr. Pressel wants the
City to get bins out to residents. Initially a few bins
were out and now there are more out. The bins the City
had are now gone.
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4 Mr. Dahlberq asked when the City would have documented
information on the study area.
Ms. Campbell stated the test period was two months last
fall. Super Cycle has been calling the information in
to the City and a monthly report could be put together.
Ms. Campbell stated the Anoka County Solid Waste Task
Force discussed yard waste. Fridley's 550 tons
represented 6$ of the County's yard waste abatement.
2. NEW BUSINESS
None
3. OTHER BUSINESS
a. Agenda for March 20 Meeting
Mr. Dahlberg asked what items are on the agenda for the
March 20 meeting.
Ms. Campbell stated the agenda included a solid waste
fact-finding brainstorming session, Environmental Quality
& Energy Commission handbook materials, and the workplan.
Mr. Dahlberg asked if Ms. Campbell had been given a
deadline.
Ms. Campbell stated, no, it can be moved subject to the
deadline.
Mr. Dahlberg suggested the Commission spend some time on
giving Ms. Campbell ideas for the energy area, and then
review the information at a later date.
Mr. Svanda stated many ideas have been discussed during
the meeting, and asked Ms. Campbell to put some of these
ideas together. One he would like to see included is
water usage.
Mr. Sielaff suggested conservation methods.
Mr. Svanda recommended using the newsletter to get
information out to people.
Mr. Dahlberg would like to include water quality.
Mr. Sielaff asked if the City was active in the GIS
system. He suggested looking at environmental things
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that could be put in GIS information, such as ground
water, soil, etc.
Ms. Campbell stated an informational meeting had been
scheduled with the staff person workinq with GIS, but the
meeting was cancelled. One thing that is encouraging
when looking at these topics is that they are
educational. She would like to avoid getting into
program barriers that have been seen in the past.
Mr. Dahlberg stated the Commission can be a resource
about issues so that later the citizen can make their own
decision as to how they will incorporate that
information.
Mr. Saba would like to challenge the City or each
department on what they can do for the environment. What
can the City of Fridley do? They can ask what people are
doing or what they can do in the departments.
Mr. Dahlberg stated this could be a catalyst to the rest
of the City.
Ms. Campbell stated she was starting an in-house office
paper program on March 13. She is also asking for ideas
for waste reduction in the office. This includes a list
of activities, such as using ceramic cups, using both
sides of the paper, and reusing computer paper.
Mr. Saba suggesting developing a City environmental
policy.
Mr. Dahlberg stated this would be a discussion item.
Part of the things that are listed are for education and
how to go about getting the information out.
Ms. Campbell stated this is the same issue as brought up
by Mr. St. Clair. He feels the next thing will be a
demand for information, and he would like to see the
Springbrook Nature Center and the City have a coordinated
effort without overlapping. This is starting on the
right track. Both are talking about the same areas.
Their's may be more programming, and the City's more
informational. Part of the discussions will be what
information will be included, how will the information
get out, and who will do it.
b. Mr. Dahlberg stated NSP distributed information on energy
audits with their bills.
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O ON by Mr. Svanda, seconded by Mr. Saba, to adjourn the meeting.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON DAHLBERG DECLARED
TiiE MARCH 6, 1990, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND ENERGY COMMISSION
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:35 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Lavonn Cooper /��
Recording Secretary
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AIITHORITY MEETING, MARCH 8, 1990
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CALL TO ORDER•
Vice-Chairperson Schnabel called the March 8, 1990, Housing and
Redevelopment Authority meeting to order at 7:20 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Virginia Schnabel, Duane Prairie, John Meyer
Members Absent: Larry Commers, Walter Rasmussen
Others Present: Jock Robertson, Executive Director of HRA
William Burns, City Manager and Director of HRA
Dave Newman, HRA Attorney
Rick Pribyl, Finance Director
Paul Hanson, Accountant
Jim Casserly, Casserly Molzahn
Barbara Dacy, Planning Coordinator
William Nee, Mayor
Tom Schuette, UCD, 4735 Hiawatha Ave. S., Mpls.
Frank Reese, 8200 Normandale Blvd., Bloomington
APPROVAL OF FEBRUARY 8, 1990, HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
MINUTES•
MOTION by Mr. Meyer, seconded by Mr. Prairie, to approve the
February 8, 1990, Housing and Redevelopment Authority minutes as
written.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON SCHNABEL
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY.
ACTION ITEMS•
1. RESOLUTION ON 59,845,000 TAX INCREMENT REFUNDING BONDS:
Mr. Robertson stated the bond bids were received on noon on
Wednesday, March 7, 1990, and the bids were awarded at a special
City Council meeting the evening of March 7, 1990.
Mr. Robertson stated the explanation and resolution the HRA
received in the packet has been modified, and the HRA has received
a final resolution with the final numbers.
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Mr. Robertson stated that when the HRA had a joint meeting with the
City Council on February 8, 1990, the HRA reviewed the options
presented by Mr. Jim Casserly and approved the financing procedure
and authorized this bond issue. At this meeting, staff is asking
the HRA to approve this resolution that will approve and authorize
the execution of a tax increment pledge agreement which goes with
this general obligation tax increment refunding bond.
Mr. Casserly stated that what the City has done is simply refund
the bonds sold in 1986. Approximately $9,060,000 are left on those
bonds, so this bond issue that is sold is to completely pay off the
1986 bonds. That is why this is called a refunding bond. There
is no new money in this issue. The HRA is being asked to pledge
the tax increment revenue they have available to them to pay off
this new 1990 refunding bond. The HRA did a similar pledge in 1985
and 1986, and now they are being asked to do the same kind of
pledge in 1990. The pledge agreement says that in Tax Increment
Districts 1, 2, 3, and 6, for as much as it can be pledged, the HRA
is pledging the revenues from those districts to pay the debt
service on this bond issue.
MOTION by Mr. Prairie, seconded by Mr. Meyer, to approve Resolution
HRA No. 3-1990, "Resolution Approving and Authorizing Execution of
Tax Increment Pledge Agreement Respecting $9,845,000 General
Obligation Tax Increment Refunding Bonds of 1990".
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON SCHNABEL
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOUSLY.
2. RESOLUTION DIRECTING STAFF AND HRA CHAIRPERSON TO APPROVE A
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH NORTHCO IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE SAME
FORM AS PRESENTED:
Mr. Robertson stated that at the December HRA meeting, a
representative from Northco, Mr. Bruce Carlson, made a presentation
to the HRA on the proposed 18,000 sq. ft. project in the Northco
Phase III at 73rd/University Avenue. The HRA reviewed the building
plans and the need for extensive soil correction, and recommended
that the City Council set up a short-term economic development
district for the purpose of assisting this project with a soil
correction grant of $70,000.
Mr. Robertson stated that at the February 26, 1990, meeting the
City Council held a public hearing and set up that district, and
that has now gone to the County for certification.
Mr. Robertson stated the HRA is being asked to approve a resolution
asking staff to proceed with finalizing the final development
agreement with Northco in substantially the same form as the HRA
approved it in December with the pay-as-you-go feature, where the
HRA does not give the grant until the project starts paying taxes.
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The development agreement is being currently reviewed by Northco,
and they see no problems in finalizing the agreement.
MOTION by Mr. Meyer, seconded by Mr. Prairie, to approve Resolution
No. HRA 4-1990, Resolution Directing the Fridley Housing and
Redevelopment Authority Staff and Chairperson to Approve a
Development Agreement in Substantially the Same Form as Presented.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING �Y$, VZCE-CHAIRPERSON SCHNABEL
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY.
3. UCD DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL FOR 10,000 AUTO PARTS SITE:
Mr. Robertson stated that at the last meeting, staff briefed the
HRA on this development proposal for a 28,000 sq. ft. retail
facility which would use the 10,000 Auto Parts site plus two
additional residential properties to the east. The HRA originally
reviewed it as a pay-as-you-go grant; however, when it became
necessary for the project to acquire the two additional properties,
UCD changed their request from a$250,000 pay-as-you-go grant to
a$350,000 grant upon completion. At that time, the HRA authorized
staff to proceed with some additional analysis of this, since this
no longer met the standard pay-as-you-go grant of 5-8� of the total
project value.
Mr. Robertson stated the HRA received at the meeting a revised
analysis by Casserly Molzahn. Staff now feels confident that the
developer's cost of a grant for a land assembly and write-down will
be closer to $300,000 than $350,000. If the HRA is to approve the
proposal, it will require the issuance of a bond. Staff added a 2�
inflation rate to the estimated taxes. Principal payments are to
be made semi-annually. The result is that the HRA would need a
principal of approximately $350,000 to generate $300,000 in project
expenses. They are using a conservative estimate in that they are
assuming it is a taxable bond; therefore, the rate is 9.5o and the
term of the bond is 11 years. Using the most conservative method
of estimating the value of the project, they estimate about $1.7
million. The developers estimate the project value to be much
closer to $2.5 million. Using the conservative method, the ratio
of the grant to the $1.7 million is in the neighborhood of 17$.
That is why this is a special case and why they did an additional
analysis.
Mr. Robertson stated that when the HRA was looking at the Tanurb
project in the southwest quadrant, the ratio of the grant to the
value was in the neighborhood of 20�.
Mr. Robertson stated that subsequent to the printing of the agenda,
staff has met with UCD and have resolved the site plan questions
that were raised at a neighborhood meeting UCD had in February.
The site plan now meets all the coverage, parking ratios, and
HOIISING & REDEVELOPMENT AIITHORITY MTG., MAR. 8. 1990 PAGE 4
setback requirements of a standard C-1 zone with one exception, and
this is the setback from the right-of-way of University. This is
a technicality, in effect, because of the wide planting strip
between the traveled way and the property line. There is more than
the standard setback normally found for a commercial street.
Mr. Robertson stated Barbara Dacy, Planning Coordinator, is at the
meeting to answer any questions the HRA members might have on the
site plan.
Mr. Robertson stated there may be questions about what the City is
getting for the proposed grant. He would like to point out that
the grant does not go to the developer. The grant is more in the
direction of reducing the price of the property so that it is
competitive with competing sites. Mr. Casserly can answer any
questions regarding the grant.
Mr. Prairie asked if Mississippi Street was going to be any wider
than it is at the present time.
Mr. Robertson stated that on the site plan, Mississippi Street
shows the dog-leg left turn stacking. It is possible for the
County to build that when they improve Mississippi Street. The
County has already acquired the right-of-way to proceed with the
intersection improvement project, and they have reviewed this site
plan and have essentially said it is feasible to do it this way.
Mr. Prairie stated this is really a tight area for traffic flow.
Mr. Robertson stated that is correct. This is a critical part of
the site plan. That is why the County essentially required the
developer to acquire more land to the east to provide enough left
turn stacking space.
Mr. Meyer stated he had a general concern about this whole
development, not only because of the development itself, but part
of this whole operation is to some day have a light rail transit
parking lot on 66th Avenue and to the north.
Mr. Meyer asked that if they approve this project, aren't they
somehow introducing a semi-blight into a very fine residential
area? In terms of when they ultimately put in the light rail
transit parking area, that intrudes itself one more block into an
excellent residential area. He did not see that as a very good
planning solution.
Mr. Meyer stated they haven't even had their discussion yet on a
policy for the southwest quadrant. In order to get that going,
they will probably need some of the same type of shops that are
being proposed for the 10,000 Auto Parts site. They will have the
Northco development at 73rd and University Avenue which will
HOIISING & REDEVELOPMENT AIITHORITY MTG., MAR. 8. 1990 PAGE 5
contain many of the same type of shops. Do they have any kind of
general plan for University Avenue and for the whole City in terms
of these types of developments? It concerned him that they do not
have an overall plan, other than to just develop property to get
more tax money. If any of these projects go defunct, they are
going to have many little one-story mom/pop shops empty all up and
down University; therefore creating blight. Shouldn't that be part
of the HRA's concern when they consider granting HRA funds for
these types of developments?
Mr. Meyer inquired why they have gone from a proposed development
bordering on 66th Avenue and the people having to live with that
development, to including one more full block with another parking
lot to 67th. Therefore, they have thrust into the residential
areas with nothing more than another parking lot. Should they be
doing this to their fine residential areas?
Mr. Robertson clarified that the graphic may be somewhat confusing
and that the proposed UCD project only extends to 66th Avenue and
not beyond.
Ms. Schnabel stated Mr. Meyer has certainly raised some good
philosophical questions. She stated that at this time she would
like to hear from the developer.
Mr. Tom Schuette stated UCD has worked as a development company
specializing in smaller buildings like this one. All of their
developments are more or less driven by the Walgreen Company that
has identified Fridley as an expansion location. They considered
the southwest quadrant; however, it was suggested by City staff
that the City was really looking for a development to use the whole
10 acres on the southwest quadrant. With the lack of a grocery
store as an anchor that would use 6-7 acres, they decided they
would be more successful to pursue the 2 1/2-3 acre parcel on the
northeast quadrant.
Mr. Tom Schuette stated their business is retail and service for
the neighborhood, and the center would be a neighborhood center
designed to benefit from existing traffic, homes, and buildings in
the neighborhood (approximately 2 miles). It is not intended to
draw customers from a distance.
Mr. Schuette stated the light rail transit issue keeps coming up
as University Avenue might be selected as a corridor. If it is,
the Mississippi/University section may be a park and ride, and the
north side of their property might be selected for a parking lot.
The east side has also been considered for a parking lot, as well
as Columbia Arena. He stated they met with the Regional Rail
Authority a couple of times and were told that if the north side
of the 10,000 Auto Parts site in the 66th/67th Avenue block is
chosen, could UCD do some type of land swap such that the Authority
HOIISING & REDEVELOPMENT AIITHORITY MTG.. MAR. 8. 1990 PAGE 6
could facilitate the dropping off of people on Mississippi? UCD
has told them it would be workable.
Mr. Robertson stated that at the last LRT meeting, the County said
they were also considering merely a"stop and ride" station at
Mississippi without a park and ride. Even in the worst case with
a park and ride, access to the parking lot would not be off 66th
Avenue. Traffic would go through the parking lot of the proposed
development around the building to the north site. So, they would
separate the residential street and residential traffic from the
park and ride lot.
Mr. Schuette stated the development they have designed would be
insulated from 66th Avenue also.
Ms. Schnabel asked what some of the other tenants would be for this
development, other than the Walgreen Drug Store.
Mr. Schuette stated they would be neighborhood-type uses, such as
video rental, dry cleaning, pizza, Chinese restaurant. They have
begun some negotiations with several other prospects, but no
leases have been signed. At this time, they have a corporate
letter of intent from the Walgreen Company.
Mr. Meyer stated he had no thoughts on the building itself. It
seems like a good design. However, this plan puts the backs of the
stores right across the street from the residential neighborhood.
In addition, he wondered how the developer expects cars to funnel
through one entrance/exit sufficiently to support this new center.
He did not know how it could work.
Mr. Schuette stated the driveway to the center is much further east
than any of the existing driveways. It is approximately where the
existing home is. He stated Walgreen Drug is a very sophisticated
company in terms of determining whether a store will be successful,
and a big part of that is access. The Walgreen Company is
satisfied that the access can provide the kind of convenience they
need to be successful.
Ms. Schnabel stated she would assume that the property line along
66th Avenue would be screened from the residential area, because
that is required by City Code.
Mr. Frank Reese stated they had a good meeting with the
neighborhood. They really wanted to let the neighborhood know what
they were proposing and get their opinions.
Mr. Reese stated the additional lots were required because of the
fact that the County wanted to double the length of the present
median. He stated the choices are tough. He stated the property
cannot function in its present use, so the opportunity of buying
HOIISING � REDEVSLOPMENT AUTHORITY MTG.. MAR. 8. 1990 PAGE 7
the additional single family lot was really predicated on the fact
that they needed it to make the project work.
Mr. Reese stated they are looking at a second generation use of
this property. He stated the buyer is e�cpecting the developer to
build something other than the mundane. They are looking at long
lasting materials which will be attractive to the buyer. They are
planning prefinished masonry panels on the outside walls,
attractive bands that run through the building (permanent color,
not paint), and a generous overhang on all the open areas of the
stores.
Mr. Reese stated they showed the neighborhood that they will use
the same building materials on the back of the building as they
use on the front. They will put in a 6 ft. high fence, also made
of the same building materials, that will screen off the automobile
parking in the back. They are trying to create a controlled
environment on their own area . The neighbors on the east will see
the same type of building materials as the front. He stated they
will build a center that will fit into the neighborhood.
Ms. Schnabel asked Ms. Dacy to give a synopsis of the neighborhood
meeting.
Ms. Dacy stated the initial mailing list went out to the required
350 ft. by State law. Then by word of mouth, the mailing list was
expanded so that they now have a mailing list that extends down
66th Avenue to about Hayes Street. About 30 people attended the
neighborhood meeting. She stated staff received a petition the
previous day signed by 50 people who are against the proposed
project. She stated the major objections:
l. Traffic concern
2. People from the southwest quadrant and down the road from
Moon Plaza were concerned about the impacts into the
retail market.
3. Typical noise impacts
4. Odors
5. Property values
Mr. Meyer asked if the potential park and ride site was discussed
at the neighborhood meeting.
Ms. Dacy stated that Tim Yantos, Anoka County Regional Rail
Authority, attended the meeting. No presentation was made at the
meeting; however, after the meeting a number of people asked Mr.
Yantos him about the LRT planning process and the prospect for a
park and ride. He explained that a park and ride is a possibility,
but that the decision would not be finalized until potentially
1991-1992.
HOUSING � REDEVELOPMENT AIITHORITY MTG., MAR. 8. 1990 PAGE 8�
Mr. Meyer asked if all the parking spaces in the park and ride
would be accessible from Mississippi through the new development.
Ms. Dacy stated that is correct. Of course, that also depends upon
Anoka County as Anoka County has plans to improve the intersection
of Mississippi/University. There will be four lanes north of the
median and three lanes south of the median and double left turn
lanes.
Mr. Robertson stated the County has told the City that if the City
can acquire the right-of-way at reasonable cost on the west side
of University, that improvement could conceivably occur in 1991.
City staff asked the County if they could do the improvement on the
east side of University this year in order to serve this
development and then come back later and do the west side. The
County said they could do that, but it will be at a higher cost.
They would rather do all the improvements at the same time.
Mr. Robertson stated that even though the S-2 zone essentially is
site plan specific, the proposal as shown by the architect meets
all the setback requirements and parking requirements of a normal
C-2 zone, with the exception of University Avenue which is an
exceptional case because of the wide right-of-way. So, if the
property is rezoned to C-2, it will not require variances except
for one along University.
Mr. Meyer stated he is still very concerned about the traffic
problems this development would create in this area.
Ms. Dacy stated the distance between the proposed driveway and the
intersection is better than any of the frontage road accesses they
have along University. She realized there will be conflicts, but
any development on that site is going to incur this type of problem
unless the site is left as is or the scale of the development is
reduced to the size of the 10,000 Auto Parts. Then, they still
have the situation where the existing driveways are too close to
University.
Mr. Newman stated the traffic from the proposed development would
have less impact than the traffic for an office building because
the traffic will be spread out over a wider period of time. There
will not be the 8:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m. stacking times.
Mr. Robertson stated the traffic engineers from the Anoka County
Highway Department and the City engineers looked at this proposal
because of the traffic concern. Both convinced staff that the
critical design element is the distance of the driveway from
University, which has more to do with how traffic volumes are
handled than anything else.
_ HOIISING � REDEVELOPMENT AIITHORITY MTG.. MAR. S, 1990 PAGE 9
Mr. Robertson stated there is also the concern that if Walgreen
Drug is the anchor tenant on the northeast quadrant, it is going
to preclude as much commercial development on the southwest
quadrant. They won't have that option of 50,000 sq. ft. of retail
anymore. They would have more of some other use, office or
residential. He asked the traffic engineers that, looking at
proposals for the southwest quadrant with a minimum of 50,000 sq.
ft. of retail and maybe more retail, what kind of congestion would
there be compared to the proposed development for the 10,000 Auto
Parts site? Their answer was that it would be similar or worse.
Ms. Schnabel stated that if they had a project for the southwest
quadrant, it would be easier to make a decision. Maybe the HRA has
to additionally address the idea of what they want to do in terms
of funding.
Mr. Meyer stated he is also concerned about the 17$.
Mr. Robertson pointed out it is less than what the HRA was
considering very favorably with Tanurb in the southwest quadrant.
Ms. Schnabel stated the Tanurb proposal was also a much larger
proposal and a much more inclusive proposal than this one.
Mr. Robertson stated staff discussed at length with the developer
and internally with staff the concern raised by Mr. Meyer about the
possibility of the project not being successful. He asked Mr.
Schuette to comment on what percent pre-lease agreements are
required by the lenders. He stated staff would probably put that
same requirement in the development agreement--that they would not
proceed with the project unless they had sufficient pre-lease
agreements that would be indicative of a successful project.
Mr. Schuette stated 75-80� of the space has to be leased. TCF does
not loan the money until they have leases in-hand and executed that
are more than sufficient to service the debt. Walgreens signs a
lease for 40 years, and they will use 11,000 of the 28,000 sq. ft.
They will have leases signed for a minimum of 3 years, but more
likely 5 years. The space will be 75� leased before they even
break ground under the policy the lenders require.
Mr. Newman stated that while the 10,000 Auto Parts site is smaller
than the Tanurb proposal for the southeast quadrant, there are some
unique features that will make it difficult for anyone to develop
it. It is his understanding that Red Owl has a master lease on
this property from the Theisen family for many years, and it is
going to be expensive for any developer to acquire that site.
Ms. Schnabel asked Mr. Schuette to explain their reasoning for
changing the request for assistance.
HOIISING � REDEVELOPMENT AIITHORITY MTG., MAR. 8. 1990_ PAGE 10 �
Mr. Schuette stated two factors were involved:
1. Their initial plan did not include any homes, and it was a
slightly smaller building. When they met with the Anoka
County Highway Department, they were told that the median was
planned for improvement and the plans could not be changed.
So, acquiring the house added a substantial cost. And
acquiring the first house triggered the need to purchase the
second house.
2. The privacy wall which will be built of the same materials as
the building is an additional expense. The estimated cost is
$36,000. They are doing more than adequate landscaping.
Mayor Nee stated he understood Mr. Meyer's concerns. He stated the
Council is looking for some advice from the HRA. When the Council
first reviewed this project, the numbers were quite different, the
subsidy was quite different, and it appeared to�solve a problem for
this property. As time went on and at the public neighborhood
meeting, he heard some of the same concerns expressed in 1965. It
is questionable whether the developer can make the project fit with
the neighborhood.
Mayor Nee stated another problem is the question of timing. Many
concerns are being expressed by the merchants on the southwest
quadrant. What is the idea of subsidizing a development on the
10,000 Auto Parts site when the City isn't solving the problems on
their corner? He stated that over the years, the Council and HRA
have said that the southwest quadrant was the third priority, and
the 10,000 Auto Parts site was the fourth priority. The northeast
corner is in Jcind of a subsidiary position, because it has so many
problems associated with it and so little promise. From strictly
a business point of view of improving the tax base potential, it
is better on the southwest quadrant than on the northeast.
Mayor Nee stated he does not speak for the Council, as the other
member may have different views. At the neighborhood meeting,
traffic was very much an issue, and he has not seen any well
defined statement of solution.
Ms . Schnabel stated the traf f ic issue will probably not be resolved
until the southwest quadrant land is made available to the County
for the improvements, and at this point, they do not know when that
will happen.
Mr. Robertson stated the County has said the interim solution is
merely to extend the existing median further east to this entrance.
That will help direct and channel the eastbound traffic. However,
the better solution would be to do the whole intersection
improvements which would involve the southwest as well as the
northeast quadrant to provide the additional lanes. If the HRA was
HOOSING i REDEVELOPMENT 11IITHORITY MTG.. MAR. 8. 1990 PAGE 11
to acquire the land in the southwest quadrant; namely, the Levy
property and the Dairy Queen (agenda item #4), then the necessary
right-of-way for the project to be done sooner could be conveyed
to the County. The County has said it is conceivable they could
do the entire intersection improvement as early as 1991.
Mr. Robertson stated Anoka County is aware of this project proposal
and seems willing to move up this project in their 5 year capital
improvement schedule to meet this need.
Mr. Robertson stated the HRA is at a point where they will have to
make a policy decision. If not this kind of use, then what kind
of use? This property has been in the Center City Redevelopment
District for ten years and has been earmarked for commercial
development. As Mr. Newman pointed out, would an office building
have any better traffic characteristics? The engineers say, no,
it will just be different.
Mr. Prairie agreed that it would be easier to make a decision on
this project if the southwest quadrant was done or at least
started.
Mr. Robertson stated staff is not asking the HRA to finalize the
project, but to approve the concept and direct staff to continue
refining the proposal.
Ms. Schnabel stated another possibility for this property is
something a little more modest than this plan. Maybe this proposal
is just too much for this property.
Mr. Robertson stated Casserly Molzahn's proforma shows that with
a land assembly grant of $300,000 which is necessary to support
28,000 sq. ft. of retail at prevailing rates, they are looking at
11 1/2 per year payback on the bonds. Presumably, less value means
less taxes and a longer payback period. It is the classic
redevelopment dilemma where, in order to get the taxes to
accelerate the payback, they need more density.
Mr. Burns asked if the 10,000 Auto Parts site is better for
commercial than the southwest quadrant.
Mr. Robertson stated that in ternas of visibility and turning
movements, the 10,000 Auto Parts site is superior.
Mr. Schuette stated the east side of University Avenue is the going
home side of the street which is very important to the retailer.
Ms. Schnabel stated the HRA needs to address the amount of
assistance being requested. Do they feel comfortable with the
request for this size of a bond? If they don't, then what
assistance do they feel comfortable with that would help this
SOIISING i REDEVELOPMENT AIITHORITY MTG.. MAR. 8. 1990 PAGE 12
developer or any other developer redevelop this particular section
of the downtown area? She is sensing that $350,000 is more than
what they anticipated and more than they are willing to give.
Ms. Schnabel stated she would also like to know if this has been
discussed with Chairperson Commers and what his feelings are about
this proposed project.
Mr. Robertson stated staff discussed this plan earlier with Mr.
Commers and Mayor Nee. Mr. Commers was generally in favor of the
project. However, at that time it was at the very early stage when
they were talking about using the pay-as-you-go mechanism. He did
not know how Mr. Commers feels now.
Mr. Meyer stated he is not happy with the high level of assistance.
He is not trying to tie his objection to the project to that facet.
Even if the project went ahead, he would wonder why they were
spending 17�.
Mr. Newman stated staff is looking for some direction from the HRA
as to whether this is the type of proposed use they would like to
see go on this site and if they would like staff to proceed into
further negotiations for a development agreement.
Ms. Schnabel stated she had three reservations about this proposal:
(1) the amount of assistance being requested, (2) the density, and
(3) the traffic. Her reasons for these concerns are based on the
discussions at this meeting and the neighborhood's feelings about
the development. It is important that they redevelop their
downtown area and this particular piece of property because it is
unsightly as it is, but they should not redevelop it at the expense
of the neighborhood. She has a great concern for the residents of
Fridley and always has through all her various dealings with the
community.
Mr. Prairie stated that if circumstances were different on the
southwest quadrant, it would be a whole different ballgame.
Mr. Robertson stated that the HRA has three issues to consider at
this meeting:
1. Make a recommendation to the Planning Commission on the
specific redevelopment plan
2. Consider concept approval of the Redevelopment Contract
3. Make a recommendation to give notice for public hearing
to expand the TIF district to include the two additional
single family units
HOIISING 8 REDEVELOPMENT AIITHORITY MTG.. MAR. 8, 1990 PAGE 13
MOTION by Mr. Meyer, seconded by Mr. Prairie, to recommend against
this specific redevelopment plan by UCD for the 10,000 Auto Parts
site to the Planning Commission.
Ms. Schnabel stated the HRA does have to recognize that at some
point, they will have to find some type of development that fits
on this property, because it is just as much a disservice to the
neighborhood to leave it sit this way forever.
Mr. Prairie and Mr. Meyer agreed.
Ms. Dacy stated the Planning Commission can still hold a public
hearing on this item and just announce the HRA's discussions and
recommendation. However, she was operating under the scenario that
if the HRA did not recommend this development, the developer might
want to reconsider either an alternate plan or to not proceed.
Mr. Schuette stated he did not think the plan can be altered. Any
changes would cause the building to be smaller, and smaller means
less revenue.
Ms. Schnabel stated that if staff anticipates members of the
neighborhood to be at the Planning Commission meeting, it might be
a good idea to proceed with the public hearing so the neighbors
can understand what has happened.
OPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON SCHNABEL
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY.
Mr. Schuette stated they have been working hard with City staff to
make planning decisions, and he did not think they would have to
defend those issues before the HRA. He thought that would happen
at the Planning Commission. He stated they have far too much money
invested to drop the project if they do not have to.
Ms. Schnabel stated that if anything develops within the next
several months with the southwest quadrant, that might change the
HRA's feelings, but that is an unknown at this point.
Mr. Schuette stated he was not sure they can control this property
for that long a time.
4. SOUTHWEST 4UADRANT POLICY DIRECTION:
Mr. Robertson stated staff has been reviewing several different
proposals for a mixed use development/commercial housing projects
on the southwest quadrant and they are anticipating some possible
interest from a corporate office also. In the meantime, they have
been informed that the owner, Fred Levy, has a potential buyer and
developer for just his site. The proposal does not need any
assistance or zoning approvals. If the HRA intends to develop the
HOIISING & REDEVELOPMENT AIITHORITY MTG., MAR. 81 1990 PAGE 14
entire 10 acres, then it is best for the HRA to acquire control of
the Levy parcel at this time. If they do not move ahead with
acquisition at this time, then they face the inevitability that the
entire 10 acres may never be available and they might want to just
decertify this part of the Center City plan and not proceed with
it, because it would not be a comprehensive development, but small
parcel development.
Mr. Robertson stated staff is recommending the HRA direct staff to
begin conversations with Mr. Levy to negotiate an acquisition price
and come back to the HRA with an update at the next meeting.
Mr. Newman stated that at a luncheon meeting with Mr. Commers and
the Mayor, Mr. Commers asked that this be put back on the agenda,
because it was Mr. Commers' feeling that the HRA should seriously
consider acquiring the site. This was discussed by the HRA 3-4
years ago, but since that time things have changed. If they are
going to upgrade Mississippi Street, early acquisition could speed
up the intersection improvements for Mississippi and University by
Anoka County. If the HRA is going to develop this site, they need
to do it very quickly; otherwise, the increment will run out and
they will not have that option. If the corporate user does not
step forward, then it is staff's recommendation that the HRA go
back to Ron Clark or another developer in order to get a project
in place to consider so they have a development in place by next
spring.
Mr. Newman stated the HRA would have to own and lease and manage
the property until development occurs, but that might not be too
great a risk.
Mr. Newman stated the HRA has the money to acquire the property.
That is what the bonds were issued for back in 1985. The County
appraised the property three years ago, and the estimate was
slightly over $1 million. Mr. Levy had an appraisal done in the
amount of $1,050,000 and $1,150,000. In looking at the development
proposals in the last year, Mr. Levy agreed on a$1.1 million
purchase price.
Mr. Prairie asked what happens if the HRA acquires the property and
nothing happens in the next five years.
Mr. Newman stated the HRA would have to own, lease, and manage the
property for five years.
Mayor Nee stated he was also getting to the point where he thinks
the HRA has to do this. If they acquire the property, there will
be more of an incentive to make something happen in the southwest
quadrant in less than five years. They have to deal with this
corner.
80IISING � REDEVELOPMBNT AIITHORITY MTQ., MAR. 8, 1990 PAGE 15
Mr. Meyer stated he is in favor of acquisition. He did not want
the HRA to be in the leasing and managing business, but he agreed
they have to do something with this corner.
MOTION by Mr. Meyer, seconded by Mr. Prairie, to authorize staff
to have an appraisal done on the Levy property and authorize staff
to approach Mr. Levy and begin negotiations regarding the purchase
of the property.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON SCHNABEL
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED DNANIMOIISLY.
Mr. Newman stated that if the appraisal cost is any higher than
$2,500, staff will come back to the HRA.
5. CLARK ENGINEERING ET AL VS. FRIDLEY HRA
Mr. Robertson stated his memo to the HRA dated March 1, 1990
(agenda page 5) was self-explanatory. Mr. Newman has obtained a
summary judgment granted by the court that the claims against the
HRA and Clark Engineering are dismissed; however, the claim for
slander of title to property and for attorneys' fees pursuant to
bad faith litigation is still intact. The court has set this
matter for trial on June 18, 1991. Staff needs some policy
direction from the HRA.
Mr. Newman stated that when the law suit initially commenced, both
he and Mr. Commers were offended by it. There was no basis for the
law suit. At the HRA's direction, he attempted to negotiate a
resolution and in response received a summons and complaint. He
stated he needs some direction from the HRA as to whether they wish
him to pursue this claim for bad faith, to negotiate a final
settlement, or pursue it to trial to get the attorney's fees. It
does take staff time and HRA resources.
Mr. Meyer stated Clark Engineering is a competitor, but also a
colleague, and he would abstain from voting on any motion.
Mr. Prairie stated that if the HRA does not pursue this claim, he
would like to not see the City use any of Clark Engineering's
services in the future, even though the City has not hired this
firm in the past. He would be inclined to say that staff should
not pursue it.
Mr. Newman stated that if the HRA does not wish him to pursue it,
he will try to negotiate some concessions.
Ms. Schnabel stated it is her feeling that legal staff should not
pursue this.
HOIISING � REDEVELOPMENT AOTHORITY MTG.. MAR. 8. 1990 PAGE 16
Due to Mr. Meyer's abstaining from any vote, there was a lack of
a quorum for action on this matter; however, the two members did
indicate their recommendation not to proceed to trial.
6. LAKE POINTE MAINTENANCE CONTRACT AWARD:
MOTION by Mr. Prairie, seconded by Mr. Meyer, to accept the bid and
award the contract to Talberg Lawn and Landscape in the amount of
$32,850.00.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON SCHNABEL
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY.
7. CLAIMS (1988-1999):
MOTION by Mr. Prairie, seconded by Mr. Meyer, to approve the check
register as submitted by staff.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON SCHNABEL
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOUSLY.
INFORMATION ITEMS:
8. 57TH PLACE STATUS:
Mr. Robertson stated the cost of the mitigation of the groundwater
pumping will be around $100,000 rather than $200,000. The PCA has
not apparently concluded their review of the environmental report
or concluded an agreement with Ashland Oil on the clean-up. Mr.
Newman has suggested that the HRA not bring this item off the table
until that agreement has been concluded, but recommends that as
soon as that agreement is reached, staff contact Winfield Develop-
ment to see if they are still interested in developing, and then
take this item off the table.
9. FICEK GOLF RANGE PROPOSAL FOR LAKE POINTE:
Mr. Robertson stated Mr. David Ficek has asked the City Manager to
approach the City Council on temporary use of the Lake Pointe site
on a year-to-year lease basis for a golf driving range.
Mr. Robertson stated it appears to be technically feasible, and it
would be a chance to recover some revenue. Mr. Burns points out
that the Council might want to give some direction on what kind of
political criticism the City might get for having a driving range
there, rather than just open space.
Mr. Robertson stated this is an information item, but staff would
welcome any comments the HRA members might have.
HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AIITHORITY KTG., MAR. 8. 1990 PAGE 17
Ms. Schnabel stated that if they allowed this type of use, what
other ideas for its use would they get? She felt it is best to
leave the Lake Pointe property as it is.
The HRA members were not interested in proceeding with this
proposal for a golf range at Lake Pointe.
10. t�EPLACEMENT OF STREET LIGHTING POLES & FIXTURES AT MOORE
LAKE COMMONS•
Informational item only.
11. OTHER BUSINESS:
a. HRA Goals and Objectives
Mr. Robertson stated he had given the HRA members the
first draft of the 1991 goals and objectives with some
notes from Mr. Burns on what he would like to see moved
to 1990. One of the items is a business retention
program (the City now has a computerized business
directory). Mr. Burns has asked that they do what they
can to identify a profile of high priority businesses
they can begin contacting later this year to try and
determine their needs for the future, much like they did
for Onan. He stated this is a worthwhile activity. It
can be done with their present budget, and he would
recommend they proceed with developing such a program.
Mr. Robertson stated he would like the HRA members to
review these goals and objectives and come back with
comments at the next meeting.
b. Center City Pictures
Mr. Robertson stated he would like the HRA's approval to
have enlarged, mounted, and framed a series of photos for
display in the Municipal Center showing the Center City
Redevelopment District in its various stages. The cost
is about $200. These photos show very dramatically the
progress that has been made since 1965.
The HRA members authorized staff to proceed.
c. Electrical Bids for HRA Parkinq Ramp Security
Surveillance System
Mr. Robertson stated the HRA previously approved the
security bid for $10,973 for the zoom camera, monitor,
and sound equipment. Included in the materials at the
meeting was a bid from Royal Electric to install some
HOIISING & REDEVELOPMENT AIITHORITY MTG., MAR. 8� 1990 PAGE 18
required additional electrical and sound wire conduit
work that staff was not aware of when the bid was
approved in December. Two bids were received, and the
lowest bid was $649. With the HRA's permission, it will
be added to the project and proceed.
The HRA authorized staff to accept the low bid and award
the bid to Royal Electric, Inc., for a total cost of
$649.00.
ADJOURNMENT•
MOTION by Mr. Prairie, seconded by Mr. Meyer, to adjourn the
meeting. Upon a voice vote, all votinq aye, vice-Chairperson
Schnabel declared tbe motion carried unanimously and the March 8,
1990, Housinq and Redevelopment Authority meetinq adjourned at
10:05 p.m.
Res ectfully su itted,
, t�
Lyn � Saba
Recording Secretary
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CALL TO ORDER•
Chairperson Barna called the March 20, 1990, Appeals Commission
meeting to order at 7:32 p.m.
�20LL CALL •
Members Present: Alex Barna, Diane Savage, Kenneth Vos,
Larry Kuechle
Members Absent: None
Others Present: Barbara Dacy, Planning Coordinator
Michele McPherson, Planninq Assistant
Bob Ring, Bob's Amoco, 7680 Highway 65
John Kosmas, K K Design, 6112 Excelsior Blvd.
Steven Hardel, 1010 Osborne Road N.E.
�PPROVAL OF MARCH 6. 1990. APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES•
MOTION by Mr. Kuechle, seconded by Dr. Vos, Chairperson Barna
declared the March 6, 1990, Appeals Commission minutes as written.
OPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BARNA DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY.
l. CONSIDERATION OF VARIANCE REOUEST VAR #90-04 BY BOB'S AMOCO•
Pursuant to Section 205.17.03.D.(2).(a) of the Fridley City
Code to reduce the side yard setback, where a driveway is to
be provided, from 30 feet to 4 feet;
Pursuant to Section 205.17.03.A.(1) of the Fridley City Code
to reduce the lot area required for one main building on plats
recorded before January 1, 1983, from three- fourths (3/4)
acre (36,679 sq. ft.) to two-thirds (2/3) acre (29,040 sq.
ft.);
Pursuant to Section 205.17.05.D.(5).(a) of the Fridley City
Code to reduce the parking and hardsurface setback from any
street right-of-way from 20 feet to 10 feet and 5 feet;
To allow the construction of an attached car wash and new pump
layout, on Lot 1, Block 1, Lampert's Addition, the same being
7680 Highway 65 N.E., Fridley, l�i 55432
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MOTION by Ms. Savage, seconded by Mr. Kuechle, to open the public
hearing.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BARNA DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY AND THE PIIBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 7:35 P.M.
Ms. McPherson stated the property is located at the intersection
of Osborne Road and Highway 65. Directly to the south is Lampert's
Lumber, and directly to the west is VFW Post 363. The site is
currently zoned M-1, Light Industrial, and the petitioner has
applied for a special use permit and a rezoning to rezone the
property from M-1 to C-2, General Business.
Ms. McPherson stated the petitioner, Mr. Bob Ring, is proposing to
construct a car wash addition to the rear of the property.
Currently, there is a car wash on site in one of the existing
service bays. The petitioner would like to relocate the car wash
in order to provide better traffic access for customers using the
car wash.
Lot Area Variance:
Ms. McPherson stated the current lot is 29,040 sq. ft. in area.
The Code requires a minimum lot area of 36,679 sq. ft. for an M-1
district. Staff is recommending the Appeals Commission recommend
to the City Council approval of this variance request, as denial
would render this parcel nonconforming. However, if the rezoning
is approved, this variance would become null and void because the
minimum lot size in a C-2 zoning district is 20,000 sq. ft.
Staff is recommending three stipulations for approval of the lot
area variance:
l. The southern-most driveway along the private service road
shall be reduced to 32 feet.
2. The northern-most driveway along the private service road
shall be increased to 25 feet.
3. Approval of the special use permit request
Hard Surface Setback from 20 feet to 10 and 5 feet:
Ms. McPherson stated the 10 ft. setback would be along the Osborne
side of the property, and the 5 ft. setback would be along the east
property line along the frontage road. Currently, the petitioner
is proposing a 45 degree angle arrangement of the pump islands.
This will allow stacking space for customers waiting to use the
pumps in addition to the cars that are using the pumps.
Ms. McPherson stated staff has suggested another alternative which
is the traditional alternative seen at SuperAmerica or the Holiday
Station store and that is to line the pumps in a north/south
direction parallel to the building. This would allow for adequate
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driving space and stacking space in addition to maintaining a 20
ft. hard surface setback. This would, however, reduce the number
of cars able to be on the site at any given time, using or waiting
to use the pumps, and may increase the congestion in front of the
service bays at the same time.
Ms. McPherson stated staff has also suggested that instead of a 45
degree angle, the angle on the pumps be chanqed to a 30 degree
angle. That would be a compromise position and would lessen the
amount of the variance. Mr. Kosmas, Project Architect, has a
diagram showing how that layout would work.
�ide Yard Setback from 30 feet to 4 feet:
Ms. McPherson stated staff has pointed out that there is an
alternative to create a detached car wash; however, this would only
work if the rezoning to C-2 is approved. Under the M-1 zoning
stipulations, car washes are not listed as an accessory use to a
service station. The Amoco Station was granted a special use
permit for the existing car wash in 1983. Staff can only interpret
that the decision was made because the car wash was part of the
existing service station, not adding to the building but just
converting an existing bay for the car wash.
Ms. McPherson stated the other drawback to a detached car wash is
it would reduce the amount of stacking space for customers waiting
to enter the car wash, and it would also reduce the amount of
parking available on site. However, with the remaining 9 spaces
that are left on site, the petitioner would meet the code require-
ment for parking stalls.
Ms. McPherson stated staff is recommending that the Appeals
Commission deny the variance request to reduce the hard surface
setback and the side yard setback.
Ms. McPherson stated that if these two variances are approved, the
following stipulations are recommended:
1. The southern-most driveway along the private service road
shall be reduced to 32 feet.
2. The northern-most driveway along the private service road
shall be increased to 25 feet.
3. The petitioner shall incur the cost of the removal of the
window in the VFW building.
4. Approval of the special use permit request
5. Approval of the rezoning request
Mr. John Kosmas, K K Design, stated they are trying to maneuver and
work with the site so they can get the cars in and out and be able
to take care of the needs of their customers. He stated this
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particular station is more traditional or "old fashioned" than most
stations in the area in that they do service. For that reason, it
has done well in this location, and it has been deemed viable for
Mr. Ring to continue his business here. The drawback is the poor
access to the station. In order for Mr. Ring to continue his
business, there are some things that have to be upgraded.
Mr. Kosmas stated he is recommending the 45 degree angle. He
stated there is a median that comes down Osborne Road. This is the
primary access into the site. To ease the traffic in and out of
the site, they are recommending that the two corner driveway
locations be closed and have the traffic come in from just the one
westerly driveway on Osborne. For good traffic flow in and through
the site, it is good to keep the pumps at a 45 degree angle. The
traffic then goes in a circular motion on the site towards the car
wash.
Mr. Kosmas stated that because there are so many restrictions, they
selected the 10 ft. setback along Osborne Road and the 5 ft.
setback along the service road to keep it a little more loose for
the customer, and it gets quite narrow and tight for the service
bays. They not only have to worry about the service bay traffic,
but also the customers having to maneuver around other cars.
Mr. Kosmas showed the 30 degree angle pump layout. With the 30
degree angle layout, they have used 20 ft. between pumps. Twenty-
two feet is more desirable. The pumps start moving down and the
last pump is relocated 20 ft. farther to the south. The cashier
inside the building can only see two pumps. This is not a good
situation with self-service. With the 45 degree angle, the cashier
can see the last pump.
Mr. Kosmas stated that having cars in a parallel alignment with
the building is a problem because they have cars literally coming
into the sides of the pumps, which is an undesirable situation.
Ms. Savage asked about the hardship.
Mr. Kosmas stated hardships are very difficult to define. He
stated hardships occur because of existing conditions. He stated
that to make it convenient and safe for the customers, he cannot
allow a 20 ft. green space. Because of the current placement of
the building and its relationship to the property lines, it is
always going to be a nonconforming situation because of the needs
of today's standards. Short of tearing down the building, this is
the only way to approach it. The current site configuration has
developed the hardship.
Dr. Vos stated that there is parking along the south side of the
property. Is that parking going to be curbed? Right now it is
open. There seems to be some kind of alley or driveway between
Lampert's and the VFW, and there is parking along there. There is
no well defined property line along the south and southwest sides.
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Ms. McPherson stated staff has not discussed the south property
line; however, they have discussed the issue of allowing traffic
from the VFW to safety-valve through the Amoco lot. This has not
really been discussed with the petitioner. The petitioner has
defined the 5 ft. required hard surface setback from the side
property line on the site plan. Staff has not discussed whether
that area should stay open or be curbed. It is something that will
have to be discussed with the petitioner. Some type of joint
driveway/parking easement might have to be filed.
Ms. Dacy stated that along the south property line, there is a curb
line with gray gravel rock, which she believed extends down to
Lampert's.
Dr. Vos asked about snow storage.
Mr. Kosmas stated snow will be stored in some of the designated
parking stalls. Some major concerns with the location of a car
wash in the south end of the site are they basically start changing
the excess parking area, room for snow storage, and the traffic
pattern to a remote building. The reason they are placing the car
wash to the rear of the building is to allow cars to stack up out
of way of the general traffic. The car wash is also remote enough
from the driveway so there is a"drip" distance so water on the
cars from the car wash is staying on the site.
Mr. Barna asked if the petitioner had considered putting the car
wash at the south end of the building.
Mr. Kosmas stated currently the car wash is located in the
southernmost service bay, and they did consider extending the
building and putting the car wash at the end of the building to get
it out of the traffic pattern. One of the problems that occurs is
that a vehicle cannot make the turn coming out sufficiently in 21
feet. He would like to suggest 30-35 feet. They have done it as
short as 24 ft., but there can be problems. If they do that and
keep the 5 ft. green space, that really leaves them with about 17
ft. The car wash as it is now functions as a drive-in/back-up type
of car wash. It does create congestion so the drive-through type
of car wash is more convenient and a more customer-oriented type
of situation. By putting it on the west side, they are putting it
into basically what is a"dead zone", because there is just a
masonry wall on the east side of the VFW building.
Mr. Barna asked Mr. Kosmas if he was aware of any cross driveway
or drive-through agreements between the VFW and the Amoco station
Mr. Kosmas stated as far as he knows, there is no agreement. If
there is, it has not been filed.
Ms. Savage stated that if the car wash is built to the rear of the
building, would there be any separation between the car wash and
the VFW?
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Mr. Kosmas stated there are two separations that occur. There is
the one that is designated as 4 ft. between the car wash west
property line which could be shrubbed or hedged. However, he would
rather shrub or hedge at the two ends of the openings, more visible
to the public eye rather than a blank wall. There is a 5 ft.
separation between the property line and the VFW building for a
total of 9 feet.
Ms. McPherson stated it would be extremely hard for vegetation to
survive in this area.
Mr. Kosmas stated maybe some type of fencing would be appropriate.
Dr. Vos stated that two of the recommended stipulations are that
the southern-most driveway along the service drive shall be reduced
to 32 feet and the northern-most driveway along the service drive
shall be increased to 25 feet. How wide are those driveways now?
Ms. Michele stated the southern-most driveway is approximately 35
feet, and the northern-most driveway is under 25 feet. Staff is
suggesting these stipulations so the driveways are wide enough so
two cars can get in and out of the site comfortably. The maximum
driveway width in the City Code is 32 feet.
Mr. Kosmas stated he didn't mind the 32 feet, but would like to
keep the middle driveway closer to 30 feet.
Ms. Savage asked about the alternative proposed by staff to locate
the car wash on the south end of the parcel. Where would the
unattached car wash would be located?
Ms. McPherson stated staff is proposing to take the same building
footprint (17 ft. by 48 ft.) and relocate it on the south side of
the parcel within the building setbacks. It does eliminate the
extra parking for cars being serviced. There is also the issue of
the entrance of the car wash being close to the southern-most
driveway, and it would reduce the amount of stacking space.
However, this proposal is only an alternative if the rezoning is
approved.
Ms. Savage asked if the VFW had any objections to the petitioner's
proposal.
Ms. McPherson stated staff had spoken with Larry Rundle, repre-
sentative of the VFW, to inform him of the fire code provision and
the window. He seemed a little concerned about that until she told
him staff is recommending the petitioner incur the cost of removing
the window. She had recommended he come to this meeting, but he
stated he really had no problem with the proposal.
Dr. Vos stated he thought the VFW should be interested because of
the property in back of the site that the VFW might assume belongs
to them. If the access from the VFW to the Amoco station is
closed, it will really affect their business.
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Both Dr. Vos and Mr. Kuechle questioned the need for the window to
be removed at the expense of the petitioner when the window would
still not be any closer to the building than before.
Ms. McPherson stated the removal of the window was a recommendation
from Darrel Clark, the Building Inspector. Mr. Clark's comments
were: "New car wash wall adjacent to property line must have 1
hour fire rating with no openings. Wall of buildings to the west,
if less than 20 feet, must be 1 hour fire rated with no openings
if less than 5 feet and 1 hour fire rated if less than 10 feet."
She stated staff has to visit the site and clarify the distance.
Mr. Kosmas stated they are not causing the VFW building to get any
closer to the property line than before. There is the question
of who is responsible and who is not. He stated some dialogue has
to occur with the VFW regarding the driveway and the window.
Mr. Kosmas stated it is his understanding that the VFW may already
be in violation of code. It is an issue that has to be brought up
no matter what happens on Mr. Ring's site.
MOTION by Dr. Vos, seconded by Ms. Savage, to close the public
hearing.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CBAIRPERBON BARNA DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY AND THE PIIBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 8:30
P.M.
Dr. Vos stated the lot coverage variance is fairly simple. Even
if the lot is rezoned to C-2, it has 9,040 sq. ft. more than is
required. A service station is allowed in C-2 with 20,000 sq. ft.
with a special use permit.
Dr. Vos stated he liked the new pump layout and the elimination of
the north pump, because of the congestion from traffic coming into
the site from Osborne, either westbound or eastbound. He also
liked the idea of closing off the two entrances that are so close
to Osborne and the service road.
Dr. Vos stated he thought the parallel pump layout is the least
advantageous for a consumer. People always stop at the first pump.
The 45 degree angle layout seems the most advantageous because of
the traffic pattern.
Dr. Vos stated a detached car wash doesn't seem like it is part of
the business. This is not a SuperAmercia-type of business with a
lot of cars sitting around, and most of the parking would be lost
on the south side. Also, if the driveway is kept open for the VFW,
there is a building for traffic to go around.
Dr. Vos stated he is in favor of all three variances. He is in
favor of the car wash being located in back of the building. It
did not bother him that it is that close to the VFW building. It
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APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING. KARCH 20, 1990 PAGE 8
has more to do with safety and traffic patterns than with a
hardship.
Ms. Savage stated she agreed. Initially, she did have a lot of
concerns about the car wash in the back of the building because of
the closeness to the VFW building, but she has become persuaded
that it is the best place for the car wash. The best use of the
lot seems to be that proposed by the petitioner.
Mr. Kuechle stated he also agreed. If the petitioner is going to
improve the current situation, this is about the best way to do it.
His biggest concern would be the lack of green space, not
necessarily on this site, but for the whole area. It is kind of
a barren bituminous surface. So anything that could be down as far
as landscaping and green space would be a step in the right
direction.
Mr. Barna stated the car wash is not creating any more of a hazard
than the existing car wash or any closer to the existing driveways.
He stated the spirit of the code which is basically for aesthetic
views on the driveway side is still being met, so he would
recommend approval of the variances.
Dr. Vos stated he still questioned the stipulation about the
petitioner incurring the cost of the removal of the window in the
VFW building.
Mr. Barna stated he agreed. He would be more comfortable with a
stipulation that the petitioner work with City staff and the VFW
on this issue, particularly when there might already be a violation
of the code. He stated he is comfortable with the 30 foot driveway
width as proposed by the petitioner. He would recommend they
delete stipulations 1 and 2 regarding the driveway widths, but add
a stipulation that the petitioner work with City staff and the VFW
to resolve the issue of the driveway on the northeast corner of the
lot.
Dr. Vos stated he did not want to get the Amoco station tied into
giving access to another building because of poor planning for that
building.
MOTION by Dr. Vos, seconded by Ms. Savage, to recommend to City
Council approval of variance request, VAR #90-04, by Bob's Amoco,
pursuant to Section 205.17.03.D.(2).(a) of the Fridley City Code
to reduce the side yard setback, where a driveway is to be
provided, from 30 feet to 4 feet; pursuant to Section
205.17.03.A.(1) of the Fridley City Code to reduce the lot area
required for one main building on plats recorded before January 1,
1983, from three- fourths (3/4) acre (36,679 sq. ft.) to two-thirds
(2/3) acre (29,040 sq. ft.); pursuant to Section
205.17.05.D.(5).(a) of the Fridley City Code to reduce the parking
and hardsurface setback from any street right-of-way from 20 feet
to 10 feet and 5 feet; to allow the construction of an attached
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l�PPEALB COl�IIdI88ION !I$BTING, ZURCH 20. 1990 PAGE 9
car wash and new pump layout, on Lot 1, Block 1, Lampert's
Addition, the same being 7680 Hiqhway 65 N.E., with the following
stipulations:
1. The petitioner shall work with City staff and the VFW to
resolve building code and traffic issues.
2. Approval of special use permit request
3. Approval of rezoning request
DPON A VOZCE VOTE, ALL VOTING ]►Y$, CHAIRPERSON BARNA DECLARED THE
MOTION Cl�RRZED QNANIl�I0II8LY.
Ms. McPherson stated the special use permit and rezoning requests
will be presented to the Planning Commission on April 11. At their
April 23 meeting, the City Council will set a public hearing for
the special use permit, rezoning, and variances for May 7, 1990.
ADJOURNMENT•
O ION by Mr. Kuechle, seconded by Ms. Savage, to adjourn the
meeting. Opon a voice vote, Chairperson Barna declared tbe March
20, 1990, !►ppeals Commission meetinq adjourned at 8:50 p.m.
Resp ctfully sub 'tted,
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Lynn Saba
Reco`rding Secretary
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
ENVIRONMENTAL QIIALITY & BNERGY COlrIIrII88ION MEETING
MARCB 20, 1990
C�iLL TO ORDER •
Chairperson Dahlberg called the March 20, 1990, Environmental
Quality and Energy Commission meeting to order at 7:32 p.m.
ROLL CALL•
Members Present:
Members Absent:
Others Present:
Paul Dahlberg, Bruce Bondow, Dean Saba, Bradley
Sielaff, Steve Stark, Richard Svanda
None
Lisa Campbell, Planning Assistant
APPROVAL OF MARCH 6. 1990 ENVIRONMENTAL OUALITY & ENERGY
COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Svanda, seconded by Mr. Saba, to approve the March
6, 1990, minutes of the Environmental Quality & Energy Commission
meeting as written.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON DAHLBERG DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. NEW BUSINESS:
a. Environmental Quality and Energy Commission 1990 Workplan
Ms. Campbell reviewed the proposed workplan. In writing
Goal #1, Ms. Campbell tried to incorporate the ideas
presented at the previous meeting and to expand beyond
the solid waste issues. Goal #2 continues the work done
in 1989, to complete the solid waste policy development
process. The survey was part of this; and now that the
survey is completed, the Commission should be able to
pursue further at the next meeting. Goal #3 keeps with
the goals from last year but focuses on promoting
programs rather than program changes. After reviewing
the survey, there may be some programs changes the
Commission would like to recommend. Goals #4 deals with
providing information on waste reduction. Goals #5 deals
with the curbside recycling program. Goal #6 deals with
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ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 20. 1990 PAGE 2
the compost site, most of which has been done. An energy
focus still needs to be developed.
Mr. Svanda asked where water conservation would be
included.
Mr. Dahlberg felt this would fit under Goal 1 as part of
the environmental issues.
Mr. Saba recommended breaking out the items in Goal 1
into more specific areas such as water conservation, as
well as other conservation activities, household
hazardous waste, etc. Rather than saying "policy", he
would prefer to use another term.
Ms. Campbell stated the outcome of this goal would be to
develop public information materials. Rewording the goal
could reflect this.
Mr. Saba suggested the goal read: "To develop a complete
Environmental and Energy Plan ...", rather than
policy, and then breaking down into more specific issues.
Another issue he would like to see addressed is lawn
fertilizers, the water and dam situation, guidelines for
conserving water. The same could also be done in the
area of solid waste and household hazardous waste. These
are all areas where public education materials could be
developed. Concerning lawn fertilizer companies, some
municipalities have banned certain companies from doing
business in their cities.
Mr. Dahlberg stated he did not wish to establish a
position on the issues, but rather get information out
to the residents. The Commission can act as an advocate
without establishing a position. If the information
leads them to a conclusion, then they can approach the
City Council, say they are concerned about an issue, and
they want the City Council to be aware of all aspects
and make a decision.
Mr. Bondow stated that, at this point, the Commission
does not know this is an issue. Perhaps the Commission
could identify that as something to go along with or be
more specific about getting information. If it merits
further work, then pursue it at that time, but not define
at this point.
Mr. Dahlberg felt the way the objective is stated will
play an important part in how the Commission goes about
gathering information.
ENVIRONMENTAL QIIALITY AND
ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING, IdARCB 20, 1990 PAGE 3
Ms. Campbell suggested a resource book, something that
goes more to the idea of developing and distributing
information.
Mr. Dahlberg stated the goal should advise residents in
the management of their environment or make broad
statements that puts the responsibility on them to make
judgments.
Mr. Bondow stated that may not necessarily involve the
Commission putting together basic information. It may
be making information available from other resources.
Mr. Stark agreed that the purpose was to get information.
The Commission is to recommend or assist in the develop-
ment of policy.
Mr. Bondow agreed that the Commission is to provide input
to formulate an appropriate plan of action.
Ms. Campbell stated that more than likely Goal #1 will
not occur. There should be some statement. She will
rephrase this goai.
Mr. Dahlberg agreed the goal and objective should be
reworded. The action and technical assistance programs
are okay. The goal should be to assist from an advisory
position.
Mr. Saba stated he would like to take a pro-active
approach. Other commissions are writing letters to
corporations without getting permission to do so. He
would like develop guidelines and ask for approval.
Mr. Dahlberg stated a Commission can ask for approval to
development guidelines. The Commission should gather
information, but he felt it should be known to the City
Council that they are doing so. He didn't think the
Commission should go ahead without the Council's
knowledge.
Ms. Campbell stated that individual members as private
citizens may advocate on any issue they wish to by
writing letters, but as Commission members, they should
not take individual actions with the intent of
representing the Commission and the Commission should not
advocate certain positions without consulting the
Council.
ENVIRONMENTAL QIIALITY AND
ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING. MARCH 20. 1990 _ PAGE 4
Mr. Dahlberg suggested that under Goal #1, Technical
Assistance, they identify any additional items or break
out into sub-items.
Mr. Stark stated he would like to see them be more
specific.
Mr. Campbell stated she did take waste reduction out,
and felt the same approach could be used for water
conservation. Again, she felt this should be an
informational activity rather than a program activity.
Mr. Sielaff asked that GIS (Geographic Information
System) be included. This is a data base which includes
information on environmental elements, land use, soil
data, recycling participation, etc. It is a good tool
to use from an environmental standpoint.
Ms. Campbell stated she could ask Mark Winson to come to
a meeting. He is the in-house expert in the City.
Perhaps the Commission could also talk with someone from
the County.
Mr. Sielaff felt it would be good to talk with Mr. Winson
first to see where the City is at this time.
Mr. Saba asked if this is something the City has
developed.
Mr. Sielaff stated the State is involved in the develop-
ment of the software for the system.
Mr. Dahlberg requested that
who is knowledgeable of the
a future meeting.
Mr. Winson or someone else
system, be asked to attend
Ms. Campbell asked which topics should be pulled out.
She also requested help on energy topics.
Mr. Stark stated the City has limited funds and staff
time. He would like to list those topics that make the
most use of their time and do the most for the City, ie.
water conservation, lawn fertilizers, water resources,
etc.
Mr. Dahlberg suggested that conservation, groundwater,
water quality and resources be listed as one issue. Then
list the key issues with those topics. The issue of
household hazardous waste is good in that it affects
everyone daily.
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ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 20. 1990 __PAGE 5
Ms. Campbell stated that this again, based on SCORE,
would be an informational activity, not necessarily a
program activity much more than doing a household battery
collection or a household appliance collection.
Mr. Dahlberg felt the issue was to gather information to
distribute.
Ms. Campbell stated there has been talk of an appliance
pickup day like the tire drop off, which could be
included. Residents would take appliances to a central
location. Appliances are technically considered a
special waste.
Mr. Stark stated the reason there are collection days is
because these are things that haulers will not pick up.
Mr. Campbell stated they are prohibited from landfills
after June 30. It is a special waste because of the
PCB's.
Mr. Dahlberg stated the issue is that there are certain
things that the public cannot easily get rid of,
household hazardous waste, white goods, brushes, etc.,
and he would like this incorporated into the workplan.
Ms. Campbell stated this should include all problem
materials and/or special wastes.
Mr. Sielaff stated he gets confused about what can be
done with what. Things change so quickly that it is
difficult to keep up on the changes.
Mr. Dahlberg stated he would like to present the
information so that the public knows what the situation
is and what they can do. Would the issue of lawn
fertilizer be covered under water quality? The
Commission would try to get as much information as
possible.
Mr. Sielaff stated that lawn fertilizers are also a
health concern in addition to a water quality concern.
He asked if there was a license restriction for lawn
fertilizer companies.
Ms. Campbell stated she did not think so, but stated she
would check.
ENVZRONMENTAL QIIALITY l�ND
ENERGY COMMISSION MBETING, MARCH 20, 1990 PAGE 6
Mr. Sielaff asked also about air quality, ie. radon,
perhaps asbestos, lead paint, etc.
Mr. Dahlberg stated those items directly have an affect
on residents. Potentially, asbestos could be a problem
but he did not know how many buildings in the City have
a potential problem.
Ms. Campbell stated Mr. Darrel Clark would have
information on that. She also had thought about a radon
update and something on heating fuel prices.
Mr. Dahlberg stated that NSP is again doing free audits.
Ms. Campbell stated she could contact Minneapolis Energy
Office to see if they want to do that promotion again
this year.
Mr. Dahlberg suggested that the whole issue of energy be
directed toward gathering information and informing.
They are still in an energy concern situation. Fuel
prices can go up and can be volatile.
Mr. Saba stated that it is important to educate people
on how to cut down their use of fossil fuels. Part of
the reason behind the volatility, and even behind the oil
spills, is everyone's reliance on oil and its products.
The educational unit done by the Springbrook Nature
Center was a very good means to show energy conservation
methods and wise choices.
Mr. Bondow asked if there were any energy grants
available through the State.
Mr. Stark stated it was his understanding that the
Commission was to take a planning role. It would be nice
to be kept informed on environmental things that happen
in the City of Fridley, such as leaking gas tanks, the
Moore Lake water quality project, TCE in wells, etc. The
Environmental Quality and Energy Commission should be
kept informed of what is happening in the City.
Mr. Dahlberg agreed that when something happens in the
City, the Commission should be informed. He would like
to be aware of issues that are occurring in the City.
Mr. Sielaff also asked if there is information about the
Rice Creek Watershed.
ENVIRONMENTAL QIIALITY AND
ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 20, 1990 PAGE 7
Ms. Dahlberg asked Ms. Campbell to incorporate the ideas
discussed into the workplan for discussion at the next
meeting.
b. Commission Handbook Materials
Ms. Campbell stated the idea came out of the Human
Resources Commission's discussion of training for
Conunission members. From there came the idea of a
handbook and developing specific materials for individual
commissions. In doing so, Ms. Campbell came upon the
same problem in that the information is all solid waste.
She covered programming, a summary of State statutes,
evolution of policy, and a list of terms associated with
solid waste.
Mr. Bondow suggested calling the "Jargon Sheet" the
"Glossary of Solid Waste Terms".
Mr. Stark stated this is a good way to bring members up
to date on environmental issues in the City by writing
a short paragraph on what has happened.
Mr. Dahlberg stated he would like to see paragraphs that
deal with the City of Fridley specifically, including
major problems that have occurred in the City in the
past.
Ms. Campbell asked for energy issues. She would like an
outline of ideas from the ��energy�� members. She asked
that the energy ideas be forwarded to her by April 6th.
She can then put the ideas together for discussion at the
next meeting.
Mr. Dahlberg asked if this would be for all persons
involved with commissions.
Ms. Campbell stated, as she understood it, there would
be general infonaation which will be given to all members
and then specific information as it relates to a
particular commission.
Mr. Dahlberg stated this is a good way to learn about
the functions of the other commissions.
2. OLD BUSINESS•
a . Survey Update
ENVIRONMENTAL QIIALITY l�ND
ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 20 1990 PAGE 8
Ms. Campbell reviewed the findings of the survey. The
current method of disposal was most popular with
recyclers. Non-recyclers preferred to choose their on
hauler for garbage and recycling. Basically, most
preferred the current system. Under awareness of
programs, 80� were aware of the programs, over 60� were
aware of the compost site, and less than 60� knew of the
drop-off site. The reasons for recycling could be
overlapped. The largest percentage who recycled said
they did so to improve the environment, but saving
natural resources became a more common response with
education.
Mr. Sielaff stated he did not think there was a
difference between the two.
Mr. Bondow stated that recycling does not degrade the
environment, but the other saves the natural resources
in the first place.
Ms. Campbell reviewed the chart showing percent of total
materials recycled for aluminum, glass, paper, and
plastics, which are taken at the drop-off site. She was
not sure of the accuracy of those figures. In surveying
non-recyclers and their knowledge and interest in the
programs, there are a number of non-recyclers who need
more information, which seems to be the biggest factor.
There were a number of non-recyclers who showed an
interest in programs, but were not ready to recycle.
Under the program options, a mandatory program was
supported by recyclers, but not by non-recyclers. The
leaf pick-up shows that residents would be willing to pay
on the average of $15.28 to have yard waste hauled away.
Recycling for multi-unit buildings showed an 80� interest
for that service.
Ms. Campbell reviewed specific survey questions. She
referred to Question 10: "Which of the following
statements best describes your knowledge of, and interest
in, your city's recycling program?" Of 100 non-
recyclers, 34� said they didn't know about the programs,
otherwise they would be recycling; and 24� stated they
were ready to start, but needed more information. Of the
34�, those people might not necessarily recycle even if
they knew about the programs.
Ms. Sielaff asked if survey participants were asked how
long they have lived in the City. It is possible that
some of the respondents had recently moved to the City.
ENVIRONMENTAL QIIALITY AND
ENERGY COMMI88ION MEETING, MARCH 20, 1990 PAGE 9
Ms. Campbell stated this was not asked. Respondents were
asked if they were a Fridley resident.
Mr. Dahlberg stated that 24� are ready to recycle but
need to know about the programs. That's a good number
and it would make a difference.
Ms. Campbell reviewed the question: "What keeps you from
recycling more now?" Twenty-three percent (the highest
percentage rate of responses) stated they need more
information.
Mr. Dahlberg stated this figure corresponds with the
response to the previous question.
Ms. Campbell indicated that 13$ responded no service
available, other housing. There is no multi-unit
recycling at the curbside.
Mr. Dahlberg stated the 100 number is misleading. Only
38 of the total respondents that are in single family
homes who have the service available to them do not
recycle, so only about 10$ do not recycle. The 62 do not
recycle because they have no program available because
they live in multi-unit buildings.
Mr. Saba stated it is important to let these people know
that they can reduce volume by smart shopping. People
who do not recycle can do other things.
Mr. Bondow stated this is a secondary issue.
Mr. Dahlberg asked how many of the 400 respondents live
in single family or multi family units.
Ms. Campbell stated that 224 live in single family homes,
and 263 are recyclers.
Mr. Stark stated on page 9, the total number of recyclers
was 269; 225 that live in single family homes and 44
others.
Mr. Svanda recommended looking over the survey and
discussing the findings further at the next meeting.
Ms. Campbell stated that regarding question 5, page 8,
rating the service, they found that females were more
aware of the recycling programs than males. They all
expressed a higher degree of satisfaction with the
ENVIRONMENTAL QIIALITY l�ND
ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING. MARCH 20, 1990 PAGE 10
program plus a higher degree of importance on it than
males.
Ms. Campbell referred to the question recommended by
Councilmember Schneider: "Why do you rate it that way?"
Twenty-six percent of the total said they were doing a
very good job. Twelve percent of the respondents felt
they should pick up more materials and provide containers
and that there was a section which talked about the pick-
up being too early.
Ms. Campbell referred to question 6: "What could your
city do to get you to recycle more?" Twenty-one percent
of the recyclers said nothing, 10� of the non-recyclers
said to make it mandatory with fines. Seventeen percent
of the recyclers wanted more schedules and more
information. Thirty-five percent of the non-recyclers
wanted more information. There was no interest in
lotteries. Fifteen percent said to provide containers,
with a slightly higher percentage of the respondents
being non-recyclers.
Ms. Campbell referred to question 8: "Why do you
recycle?" Forty-one percent of the recyclers said to
eliminate landfill problem. Under other reasons, 6� said
they did so because containers were provided.
Mr. Dahlberg asked the response on the question of
recycling bins.
Ms. Campbell stated this was question 23: "If the City
provided containers for recycling, would you be more
likely to recycle?" Sixty-five percent of recyclers said
yes, 78� of non-recyclers said yes, 86� of other housing
units said yes, 60� of single family said yes, and most
preferred a three-bin stack system.
Ms. Campbell referred to question 24: "If the idea were
to offer a financial reward, what type of financial
reward would you like?" Twenty-four percent of those
with incomes of $60,000 and above requested lower water
bills. Twenty-one percent preferred a lower garbage
bill.
Mr. Dahlberg asked if these responses were read to them
or were these open ended?
Mr. Campbell stated she thought they were open ended.
In summary, the survey showed a preference for recycling
ENVIRONMENTAL QIIALITY AND
BNERGY COMMISSION MEBTING, MARCH 20, 1990 PAGE 11
containers, recycling service for multi-unit buildings,
and providing more promotion of the program.
Mr. Dahlberg asked if those that recycle now feel they
need more information.
Ms. Campbell stated yes, they did say they needed more
information or a schedule. Other cities send out a
schedule and information twice per year. It increases
postage costs but also repeats information and increases
participation.
Mr. Bondow asked if the City Councilmembers had gotten
a copy of the survey results.
Ms. Campbell stated the survey arrived the day of the
meeting, and the Councilmembers will get a copy the next
day. It will be interesting to go through the verbatim
responses. A representative from the company is willing
to come in to a City Council meeting to present the
findings. The findings will also be looked at by staff.
Mr. Dahlberg asked the Commission members to also review
the survey. If issues become relevant, it can be
discussed at the next meeting.
b. Earth Day Update
Ms. Campbell stated that she had hoped to have a draft
handout for Earth Day on waste reduction prepared for
this meeting, but she could not meet with the newsletter
editor and have a draft of the waste reduction handout,
because he was not available. The material will have go
to the printer before the next meeting. She will work
on the material with members who are interested before
it is printed. It will be necessary to send the material
out and have input back to her before the next meeting.
Ms. Campbell stated the Waste Reduction Strategies is a
list of ideas gleaned from other sources. The handout
would be modeled after the Dakota County handout.
Mr. Dahlberg asked for a definition of "green".
Mr. Bondow likened the term to an environmentally
conscious shopper.
Mr. Dahlberg asked that Ms. Campbell send the material
to all members, and it will be their responsibility to
get back to her by a given date.
ENVIRONMENTAL QIIALITY AND
ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 20. 1990 PAGE 12
c. Brainstorm Session for Solid Waste Fact-Finding Process
Ms. Campbell stated the brainstorming session has been
re-scheduled for April 17.
d. Phone Book Drop-off Update
Mr. Dahlberg provided an update from the last meeting.
He stated the Commission had discussed placing an ad in
the Fridley Focus for phone book recycling program.
Members felt the ad was too costly and were not sure
there would be that much participation by Fridley
residents.
Ms. Campbell stated she has been investigating the option
of a drop off in Fridley. She contacted Ms. Julie Jones
of Crystal, who stated the recycler must have a loading
dock, and she also discouraged a transfer because she
did not have this included in her cost estimates.
Mr. Dahlberg stated he would be more willing to give them
money directly to defray program costs rather than put
it into advertising.
Ms. Campbell suggested going with another option which
is doing it themselves. Pioneer Paper would accept the
books, but they would need to receive and transfer the
books. A bin could be placed at Springbrook Nature
Center during the Earth Day activities. This would be
contracted by a separate hauler. Mr. Saba was asked to
present the idea to the Nature Center at an upcoming
meeting.
Mr. Bondow estimated the cost for a drop bin and pick up
to be about $100. He asked if a covered container would
be necessary to keep the books dry.
Ms. Campbell stated she would need to check.
Mr. Bondow stated this is the most viable method to
disposing of the phone books. This is also an energy
issue. It requires using energy to drop off phone books
at Brookdale, which doesn't make sense.
Mr. Dahlberg recommended sending a news release to the
Minneapolis Star Tribune for their Thursday community
announcements to advertise the Springbrook Nature Center
activities. If the phone book drop-off is that day, this
too should be included.
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ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING. MARCH 20. 1990 PAGE 13
Mr. Stark asked what happens with the books.
Mr. Bondow stated Pioneer Paper buys surplus paper and
recycles it.
Mr. Stark stated he would be interested in negotiating
special pickups, including a phone book pickup, in the
next recycling contract.
Ms. Campbell stated there are some special pick-ups
included for negotiating in the City's current contract
including used batteries, but phone books are not
included.
Mr. Bondow stated it is important to have the full
support of the Nature Center for a phone book drop-off
site.
Mr. Saba stated he would present the idea at their next
meeting. He also stated that he had contacted the
telephone company to inquire about them accepting their
old phone books, but could not get any answers. One
person instructed him to put his old phone books in the
garbage.
3. OTHER BUSINESS:
a. Office Paper Recycling
Ms. Campbell stated the office paper recycling started
on March 15 and was well received by everyone. The City
has a separate contractor to handle this paper. The cost
is $35/month plus start up costs.
Mr. Bondow asked if there was any reduction in refuse
hauling costs.
Ms. Campbell stated it is too early to tell. She will
check in a few months.
Mr. Dahlberg asked Ms. Campbell to make sure there is
something in the City newsletter about the program to let
residents know that the City is doing this.
b. Proclamation on Earth Day
Mr. Saba stated it would be nice if the City Council
would make a Proclamation for Earth Day and make an
affirmation of what will be done as far as the
ENVZRONMENTAL QIIALITY AND
ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING, MARCH 20. 1990 PAGE 14
environment. He would like a recognition of Earth Day,
but at this point it is too late.
Ms. Campbell stated there is one more City Council
meeting before Earth Day, and she suggested Mr. Saba
speak with Councilmember Jorgenson, at the March 22nd
Earth Day Committee meeting, about initiating the
proclamation by contacting Mr. Burns at City Hall and
asking to have it placed on the agenda for the upcoming
meeting.
ADJOURNMENT•
MOTION by Mr. Sielaff, seconded by Mr. Bondow, to adjourn the
meeting.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON DAHLBERG DECLARED
THE MARCH 20, 1990, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND ENERGY COMMISSION
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:30 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Lav nn Cooper �
Recording Secretary
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fRIDLEY
DATE:
TO:
FROM:
SUBJECT:
PLANNING DIVISION
MEMORANDUM
March 19, 1990
William Burns, City Manager
Barbara Dacy, Planning Coordinator
Status of Osborne Crossings Development
Proposal
Jerry Farrell contacted me today and advised me that he could not
receive financing for the Osborne Crossings project. Farrell noted
that he had 70� of the retail space pre-leased (this is a good
indication of the market interest given the recent debate of
whether or not the Urban Commercial Developer's project would
survive). Farrell stated that the commercial banks wanted projects
that did not have any risk and a developer that has a longer track
record than his. He stated that the banks determined that the
theater was too risky in a soft market.
Farrell stated that the owners of the building were seeking
potential tenants for lease-up of the existing building. We will
be contacting the representative of the building owner to insure
that he is aware of our development requirements.
Farrell is closing the SBF Development office and is seeking
employment.
BD/dn
cc: Housing & Redevelopment Authority packet
Planning Commission packet�i
M-90-195
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CITY OF
f RIDLEY
DATE:
TO:
FROM:
SUBJECT:
PLANNING � DIVISION
MEMORANDUM
March 29, 1990
William Burns, City Manager
Barbara Dacy, Planning Coordinator
Neighborhood Meeting for 10,000 Auto Parts
Redevelopment Site; Fridley Town Square
Urban Commercial Developers conducted another neighborhood meeting
on Tuesday, March 27, 1990. Approximately 80 letters to area
homeowners were sent and approximately 35 persons attended. Scott
Erikson, Frank Reese, and Tom Schuette, reviewed the revised site
plan showing additional landscaping and setbacks along 66th Avenue
and along Mississippi Street. The homeowners had the following
comments:
l. The homeowners to the north on 66th Avenue and immediately to
the east of the development asked the developer to evaluate
constructing some type of a berm or hill to place the wall on
to elevate the wall height.
2.
3.
4.
A number of questions were asked about the length of the
tenant leases and the types of uses to be located in the
building.
The homeowners questioned the longevity of the building
materials and the procedures to maintain the property.
Some homeowners continued to express their feeling that there
is no need for additional commercial in this area.
5. A maj ority of the homeowners indicated by a show of hands that
they would prefer a Light Rail Transit parking lot at that
location rather than commercial development. Although it was
explained that the area has been included in the redevelopment
plan since 1979, the homeowners felt that preservation of the
neighborhood should take precedence.
6. A significant portion of the meeting dealt with the traffic
issues and the ability to move in an out of the site,
especially the left turn movement into the site and the east
bound movement out of the site.
Fridley Town Square
March 29, 1990
Page 2
A number of persons after the meeting stated that the revised site
plan improved the compatibility with the neighborhood; however, the
homeowners continued to object to the use of the property as
commercial.
BD/dn
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Planning Commission1/
M-90-208