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PL 07/25/1990 - 7135City of Fridley A G E N D A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WEDNESDAY, JULY 25, 1990 7:30 P.M. LOCATION: FRIDLEY MUNICIPAL CENTER, 6431 UNIVERSITY AVENUE N.E. CALL TO ORDER• ROLL CALL: APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: July 11, 1990 PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. SP #90-11, BY THE GYM• Per Section 205.17.O1.C.(4) of the Fridley City Code, to allow commercial recreation uses, on Lots 9 and 10, BLock 2, Paco Industrial Park, generally located at 261 Commerce Circle South N.E. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #90-12. BY THE ROBERT LARSEN PARTNERS: Per Section 205.18.01.C.(1) of the Fridley City Code, to allow offices not associated with a principal use, on Lot 2, Block 1, Northco Business Park, generally located at 7201 University Avenue N.E. RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY & ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING OF JUNE 19, 1990 RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING OF JUNE 21. 1990 RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING OF JULY 10, 1990 OTHER BUSINESS: ADJOURN• � � FRIDI.SY PLANNING COI+II�IBBION MEETING, .TIILY il, 1990 �� CALL TO ORDER• Chairperson Betzold called the July 11, 1990, Planning Commission meeting to order at 7:35 p.m. ' ROLL CALL: Members Present: Don Betzold, Dave Rondrick, Dean Saba, Sue Sherek, Paul Dahlberg, Larry Kuechle (for Diane Savage), Connie Modig Members Absent: None Others Present: Jock Robertson, Community Development Director Barbara Dacy, Planning Coordinator Richard Mochinski, Chisago City Joel Cason, Moose Lodge #38 (See attached list) APPROVAL OF JUNE 20 1990 PLANNING CO1�II+�IISSION MINUTES: OM TION by Mr. Dahlberg, seconded by Mr. Saba, to approve the June 20, 1990, Planning Commission minutes as written. IIPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERBON BETZOLD DECLARED T8E MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY. APPROVAL OF AGENDA: O�! TION by Mr. Rondrick, seconded by Mr. Ruechle, to approve the agenda with the following addition: Consideration of Approval of a Resolution to Determine Consistency of the Redevelopment Project with the Comprehensive Plan. IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPER60N BETZOLD DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED DNANIMOIIBLY. 1. PUBLIC HEARING• CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERAlIT. SP �90-10. BY RICHARD MOCHINSKI: Per Section 205.13.O1.C.(1) of the Fridley City Code to allow theaters, lodges, and assembly facilities cn Lots 17 and 18, Block 2, Spring Valley, generally located at Rice Creek Road and Central Avenue N.E. - O�! TION by Mr. Rondrick, seconded by Ms. Sherek, to waive the reading of the public hearing notice and open the public hearing. PLANNING CO1rIISI88ION MEETING, JIILY il. 1990 PAGE 2 IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPER801�T RONDRICK DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED ONANIMOIISLY. Ms. Dacy stated this subject parcel is located east of and adjacent to Central Avenue, just south of the new fire station. The property is zoned C-1, Local Business. The site has been the subject of a number of zoning requests. The most recent one was in 1986 when the property owner, Mr. Mochinski, petitioned for a rezoning from C-1 to R-3, Multiple Family Dwelling, for the construction of townhomes on not only this site, but the site which is now occupied by the fire station. At that time, the Planning Commission recommended approval; however, the City Council denied the rezoning request. The Council felt the development density of the proposal was too high for the site. Ms. Dacy stated Mr. Mochinski is requesting a special use permit in the C-1 district which is different than a rezoning request. The C-1 zoning will not change; however, the special use permit is stating that in order to build a lodge facility, a special use permit is needed. The Zoning Ordinance also states that the maximum capacity of a lodge and assembly facility must be less than 300 people. Ms. Dacy stated a 7,000 sq. ft. single story building is being proposed for the property. There will be one driveway to provide access into and out of the site. The parking area will be located in front of the building, along the side of the building, and at the rear of the building. There is available space at the rear of the building for an additional 38 parking spaces if it is needed. To the rear or along the east lot line, the petitioner is proposing a detention pond which will detain the runoff from the property for the required amount of time and discharge that into a pipe or swale along the south lot line and discharge into the stormwater system under Central Avenue. Ms. Dacy stated that, as required by code, the petitioner has also proposed the construction of a 6 ft. wood fence privacy fence which will begin at the corner of the rear of the fire station and continue along the north lot line to the east lot line and down again to the south lot line. This abuts the R-1 zones to the north and to the east. Ms. Dacy stated the proposed site plan meets all the setback requirements and parking requirements as required by the C-1 district. The petitioner has submitted a landscaping plan which conforms to the landscaping requirements. Ms. Dacy stated the proposed construction materials is a painted rock face block and colored metal trim along the roofline of the building. The petitioner is proposing a sign indicating the Moose Lodge #38 and three flags. � r� .w � PLANNING CO1�MI88ION MEETING, JIILY 11. 1990 PAGE 3 Ms. Dacy stated that based on the fact that the proposed site plan meets the requirements of the C-1 district--screening, landscaping, parking, lot coverage, and drainage issues, staff is recommending approval of the request with the following five stipulations: 1. Lot 17 and 18 shall be combined into one tax parcel. 2. A drainage and utility easement shall be reserved over the east 30 feet of the parcel and shall be submitted prior to the issuance of a building permit. 3. A street easement shall be reserved over the east 30 feet of the parcel and shall be submitted prior to the issuance of a building permit. (Ms. Dacy stated the easement would accommodate a future street right-of-way in order to preserve the ability for resubdivision of the parcels to the north and east of the site.) 4. A special use permit shall be approved prior to any building expansion. ' 5. Maximum seating capacity shall be limited to 300 persons, or the regulations provided by the Fire Code, whichever is most restrictive. Mr. Betzold asked Ms. Dacy to give a brief description of the C-1 district and the permitted uses in that zone. Ms. Dacy stated the C-1 district is the local business district. Its intent is for commercial/residential/services uses. Physically, in the zoning pattern in the City, the C-1 zone is often adjacent to R-1 or R-2 areas. She read the list of principal uses permitted in the C-1 zone. Ms. Dacy stated the C-2 district is more intensive and permits by right more uses. Mr. Betzold stated that in looking at this particular block, with the fire station to the north, and commercial property to the south, how does staff view the proposed development for this block? Should this particular property remain commercial? Ms. Dacy stated there are a number of factors. Right now the entire site is zoned C-1 as compared to other sites to the north where the frontage of the parcels are zoned commercial and the rear is zoned is single family residential. By right, if a property owner came to the City tomorrow and wanted a building permit for any of the permitted uses in the C-1 district, the �� ca+eaa...��`— ---- City would have to grant it. What is being proposed can bical called a transition use in tseobviously notla conveniencePstoa�ed commercial/retail use. It 1 eak hour traffic that is associ It doesn't have a lot of the P shopping center, a with a commercial use such as a strip gather, it is a use convenience store, or an office building. eak hours, more that experiences a lot of traffic in hingnelse. similar to a restaurant use than anyt � Stated he Mr. Richard Mochinski, 27540 Rirby Lane, Chicago City, etitioner and owner of the proPertY• He had two things is the p Ms. Dacy. (1) There is a tremendous to add to that stated by oor soil conditions soil correction problem in this area. t� ebuilding on the site. were taken into account when lounderscale in proportion to the (2) The project itself is very on this site, land. If they were to build an28ff000esqulftlnwith about 8� they would build approximately e they are proposing a 7,000 parking spaces. With the Moose �dg ' the back half of the Sq, ft. building and virtually leaving there property vacant. So, if future p arking is never needed, will be about 100 ft. of green aith an attractivefentrancewayng. The building will be one story w ra osal. They have done an extensive landscaping p P Mr. Mochinski stated that of the 7,000 sq. ft., approximately approximately 1,000 sq. 2,800 sq. ft. is hall/banquet facilities,s are footage is the ft. is office/kitchen, and the rer aertygthey have enclosed a very bar. On the north side of thel� w ich is doubly enclosed with small patio with a horseshoe Psound that will be created by the the 6 ft. fence to redua�iony functions outside the p is somewhat in the center of Mr. Mochinski stated thet ieddtogplace it.as far north as the site; however, they it should P ossible towards the fire sta�hens ale of t e pr jeCt�bet er there. He thought that Wlwell. fit the neighborhood very e Planning Commission members might Mr. Mochinski stated members of the Moose Lodge were at t e meeting to answer questions th have. Mr. Saba asked about exterior lighting• There will be a Mr. Mochinski stated there is minimal lighting. hting ost light in back that lights up the parking lot, and lig p in front and on the masonry sign that covers from the buildinoles. the three flag p ast-Governor of the MooseThed9e Mr. Joel Cason stated he is the p as the Secretary• anization. There are 1,200 Moose #38 in Minneapolis. He is now serving Moose Lodge is a fraternal org P PLANNINC3 COIrIIrIIBBION MEETING, JIILY 11. 1990 PAGE 5 Lodges in the United States, 37 in Minnesota. Moose Lodge #38 is the second oldest, and they have been displaced from their building in Minneapolis at 624 - 3rd Avenue N.E. It is a working man's lodge. Mooseheart is a city in Illinois about 30 miles from Chicago, which is a type of orphanage. All the Moose Lodges support it and take care of it. Mooseheart also governs the Moose Lodges. Mr. Cason stated the Moose Lodge is different from an organization like the Knights of Columbus in that it is strictly for Moose members and guests only. They have been good neighbors in their community in fund raising and civic affairs. Mr. Betzold stated that the Moose Lodge is normally for Moose members only. How many members are there in Moose Lodge #38? Mr. Cason stated they have about 850 members right now. It is an older men's lodge. The average age is 55. He is a third generation Moose member. They do have a variety of activities for children and younger members. They have weddings and dances on Friday and Saturday nights for members and guests only. The Moose patrol and take care of their people so there is no trouble. Out of 850 members, approximately 100-150 are in attendance on a good evening. Mr. Kondrick asked if Mr. Cason thought the parking lot as proposed is adequate for their usage. Mr. Cason stated that in Minneapolis they had one acre of ground with 75 parking spaces. Most of the time, that 75 spaces were adequate. Once in awhile, members would have to park on the street. The proposed parking spaces for this new site are 120, and that is more than adequate. Ms. Modig asked how soon the Moose Lodge could foresee the expansion of the rear parking area. Mr. Cason stated it is difficult to know that, but he thought it would be quite awhile before they do any expanding. It also depended on how soon they got new members. Ms. Sue Rau, 1341 - 64th Avenue, asked if the Moose Lodge would be applying for a liquor license. Mr. Cason stated they would certainly apply for one. Ms. Dacy stated that if the Moose Lodge does apply for a liquor license, because they are a private club, the liquor ordinance defines it as a"bottle club", and they have to pay a$300 application fee. This application is reviewed by the Public Safety Director and the City Council. If the Moose Lodge applies for a beer license, that requires a public hearing process before c PLANNING COMMIBBION MEETING, JIILY 11. 1990 PAGE 6 � the City Council. The zoning ordinance does not specify notifying adjacent property owners, but the license application is published in the Fridley Focus two times prior to the public hearing. Ms. Jean Schwartz, 1372 - 64th Avenue, stated it is her understanding that anything going into the C-1 zoning district would be of a smaller scale and have a smaller impact on the residential neighborhood, while anything going into the C-2 zoning district would be of a larger scale and have a larger impact. She asked Ms. Dacy to explain why lodges and assemblies are allowed in the C-2 zoning. Ms. Dacy stated each zoning district has a list of principal uses, a list of accessory uses, and special uses. In the C-1 district, the first things listed under special uses are: '�theaters, lodges, and assembly facilities having a seating capacity of less than 300 persons, but not including outdoor theaters." This says that theaters, lodges, and assembly facilities are o.k. in the C-1 district with a special use permit. Under the C-2 zoning, the seating capacity can be over 300 persons. There is also another part of the ordinance that says the City has to analyze the site plan and determine if there is any adverse impacts from the special use. In other words, the City has the burden of proof as to whether or not the special use is going to be compatible with the adjacent area. Ms. Lavonne Kowski, 6391 Central Avenue, asked how many parking spaces are proposed for the site. Ms. Dacy stated 72 parking spaces are proposed. The area to the rear can accommodate up to 37 spaces, for a total of 109. Ms. Kowski asked where the cars are going to park when the lot is full. She lives north of the fire station. The cars are not going to park on Rice Creek Road or Central Avenue, so they are going to park on 64th Avenue. Her concern is the parking. Ms. Dacy stated that as far as parking requirements, the ordinance is set up so that even though the building capacity is 300 people, that does not mean there are going to be 300 cars. Typical parking requirements for a church is 1 space for 3 people. Typical parking requirements for a theater is 1�space for 3-4 seats based on the fact that on average 2-3 people travel in one vehicle to a typical destination. The City of Fridley's code is based on square footage of 1 space per 100 sq. ft., which equates to 70 spaces. If they were to use the analogy of 1 space per 3-4 people, there would still be enough spaces on site to accommodate that ratio. a ' pLANNING COMMI88ION MEETING, JIILY 11, 1990 PAGE 7 Ms. Koski asked if there is an overflow at the Moose Lodge, can people from the Moose Lodge park on 64th Avenue according to ordinance? Ms. Dacy stated cars are not allowed on Central Avenue or Rice Creek Road. They could park on 64th Avenue unless a"no parking zone" is established. Mr. Betzold asked if the Public Safety Director has looked at whether or not it would be appropriate to put "no parking" signs along 64th Avenue. Ms. Dacy stated the Public Safety Director has reviewed the plans, but he did not make a specific comment about this issue. Mr. Betzold stated that if this special use permit is approved and parking ever becomes a problem, the City Council can always approve a"no parking zone" on 64th Avenue at a later date. Ms. Sherek stated that if parking ever becomes a problem, there is always the possibility of cross parking easements with the commercial property to the south. Mr. Mark Schwartz, 1372 - 64th Avenue, stated he is not against the Moose organization. He is looking at this as C-1 zoning which is like a small office building or convenience store, generally things that close at 9:00-10:00 p.m. This Lodge will be right across from residential homes, and it is going to be open until 12:00-1:00 a.m. Then, on top of this, they are going to apply for a liquor license. For these reasons, he is against the project. Ms. Sue Rau stated that the Moose Lodge currently has 850 members, and they will be looking for more new members. This building has a capacity for 700 people according to the fire code. Who is going to make sure there are no more than 300 people in the building? Ms. Dacy stated she talked to Bob Aldrich, Fire Chief, about the fire capacity issue. Based on the Building Code, they took the square footage indicated on the plan for the hall and restaurant area and came up with a total of 350 people. Apparently there has been some conflicting information from City staff, and this needs to be checked out before the City Council discussion. Ms. Dacy stated that obviously if 750 people did show up at the Moose Lodge, there would be cars on site and all over the street, and someone would call the Police Department. If the Moose Lodge exceeds the fire capacity, the City has the right to close the operation down. There is also an annual inspection program, and the City also relies on the neighbors to keep watch and call if they feel the Moose Lodge is in violation. Also, if the Moose 0 � Lodge is in noncomplialic heari geanderevokesthee pecialhuselty Council can call a pub permit. Ms. Ida Mae Rassow, 1400 Rice Creek Road, asked that if whe=edo build the overflow parking at the rear of the building, will those cars exit and enter the site? Ms. Dacy stated that there is one driveway onto CeThealocation�of There will not be any access to Rice Creek Road. the driveway is approximately 300-350 feet north of the intersection of Rice Creek Road. Central Avenue is maintained by Anoka County. Anoka County has reviewed this proposal and had no adverse comments about it. Ms. Carol Tovsen, 1356 - 64th Avenue, asked if Fridley has any ordinance regarding the concentration of bars in a certain area. Mr. Betzold stated there is no ordinance regarding bars. Mr. Mark Schwartz, 1372 - 64th Avenue, stated about one-half of the building is a hall and one-half is bar and kitcheaoesAthe there is an outdoor patio with a horseshoe pit. Why outdoor portion and bar portion face the residential side rather than facing the other side, while the hall is on the back wall? Mr. Mochinski stated he met with Councilmember Schneider, and they discussed the pros and cons on the location of the hall. They both felt the best solution was to keep the hall farther away from the residential area. The patio is off the bar area, but it is quite small, only about 8 feet wide, and is not large enough for a band. Theeeo�her fence,around it to keep the sound away, in addition to th Mr. Mike Gannucci, 1332 Hillcrest Drive, stated he drives by this property many times during the week, and it is sadly landeit of a development. He has seen the plans for the building, looks like a very nice building. He thought it would fit in nicely with the neighborhood and it would give the City some tax revenue. Mr. Joe Stzyzewski, 4724 - 2nd Street, stated he is the Acting Governor of Moose Lodge #38, and the bartender for the last ten years. He has worked private parties and weddings; and in those ten years, he has never seen 300 people at anhavenevernhad atyado not have large crowds. The most people they function was 200-250. This building and parking lot are more than adequate. He did not believe there would be any cars parking on residential streets. � ` PLANNIN(3 CO1rII�IBBION MEETING, JIILY 11. 1990_ PAGE 9 Ms. Sue Rau, 1341 - 64th Avenue, stated her biggest concern is the liquor license. It seems that right now their neighborhood is being bombarded with bars. To the north they have Sandees Restaurant, to the south is Joe Dimaggio's and Wong's has a beer license. There are four establishments within 1 1/2 blocks that serve liquor or beer. There is a lot of noise that is generated by Joe Dimaggio's, plus cars racing down Central Avenue as they leave the parking facilities. . Ms. Lavonne Rowski, 63�n1 Central Avenue, stated the domestics from Joe Dimaggio's ha� brought a lot of problems into this area. It draws a younger, noisier crowd. When they purchased their home, Sandees was already there; and they have not had any problems with Sandees. But, all of a sudden they have been bombarded with bars. If any of the Planning Commission members lived in this area, they wouldn't be having this meeting. Ms. Barb Edwards, 1403 - 64th Avenue, stated they moved into their house about 1 1/2 years ago. Before that, they lived in Northeast Minneapolis across the street from a fraternal organization. This organization did not have a bar that operated regularly, but it conducted celebrations; and they experienced overflow parking in front of their house, litter, liquor and beer cans in the front yards, screaming and yelling, swearing, domestic fights, etc. This probably was not the members of this organization, but it could be rented by one member and the rest were guests of that member who do not have to conform to the rules of the organization. Mr. Mark Schwartz, 1372 - 64th Avenue, stated he thought the members of the Moose Lodge are sincere. The problem comes when there are 250 people at a function, such as a wedding, who are out to have a good time. On one hand, he is favor of this type of use for this property; but, on the ot�ier hand, he is against late night hours and serving liquor. Any time liquor is served, there is the potential for a lot of problems. Mr. Betzold stated the City Council that if a hearing be held and the Planning Commission could recommend to the liquor license is requested, a public neighbors notified. Mr. Joe Nelson, 1357 - 64th Avenue, stated that in this area there is liquor or beer at Sandee's Restaurant, Wong's Restaurant, Joe Dimaggio's, Shorewood, and the municipal liquor store, and the Rnights of Columbus. There is also pull tabs, gambling, bingo. A bar is a bar, whether it is in the Moose Lodge or in another establishment. They moved into this area because it is a residential area. His house is about 75 yards from the horseshoe pit, and he doesn't want the noise or the cars. . pLANNING CO1�lI88ION MEETING JIILY 11 1990 PAGE 10 Mr. Herb Lennox, 1461 Rice Creek Road, stated he built his house in 1961. At that time, there was only the Shorewood Inn and Sandees. Since then, a liquor license has been issued to Maple Lanes, Joe Dimaqgios, and there is Fridley's municipal liquor store. He did not think he could support the addition of another establishment serving liquor just down the street from his home. He would like to see this property developed, but he would like to see it developed in other ways. Alcohol is a very big problem. Ms. Jean Schwart, 1372 - 64th Avenue, stated another problem is that the Moose Lodge is busiest during off peak hours when the residents are home. Ms. Linda Nelson, 1357 - 64th Avenue, stated that when the proposal was before the City for townhouses on this property, all the neighbors agreed that they were not against the townhouses but against the density in this small area. If the project could have been scaled down, it might have been workable in this area. This block is a younger neighborhood, and there are a lot of small children. . Mr. Mochinski stated he has owned this property for 15 years, and there are not a lot of uses for this property. One is for office, but there is no market for office space. The retail/ walk-in type uses are not conducive for this site, because the traffic counts are not high enough. He would prefer not to have to go through the special use permit process, but the allowed uses for this property are just not there. He has to take proposals as they come and present them to the Planning Commission and City Council. Ms. Jean Schwartz, 1372 - 64th Avenue, stated they moved into their home four years ago to raise a family in a nice neighborhood. They had checked into the zoning, and there was no liquor allowed on C-1 property. If they had known it would be allowed through a special use permit, they would not have purchased in this area. If the City does not put some kind of cap on the establishments selling liquor in this area, people will start leaving. Ms. Sue Rau, 1341 - 64th Avenue, stated she has talked to a realtor to find out what this type of establishment would do to their property values. It was the realtor's opinion that it definitely does not add to their property value, and it would be more difficult to sell their home because potential buyers want to buy in a residential area and look at the facilities around the residential area. From her living room, she will see a parking lot and a bar. The primary problem is the liquor and the number of cars. Maybe a restriction on residential parking could be part of the solution, so the residents could be assured that people from the Moose Lodge will not be parking on their street. � r '� PLANNING COMMIBBION MEETIN(3, JIILY 11, 1990 PAGE 11 Mr. Betzold stated that if this special use permit is approved by the City Council, there is nothing to prevent the Council from imposing those kind of traffic bans at some future time. Parking is a very important issue. Ms. Lavonne Rowski, 6391 Central Avenue, stated she has seen some traffic counters on Central Avenue. Is the City taking traffic counts in this area. If not, the City should be taking some traffic counts. There is a lot of traffic in this area, and the Moose Lodge will just bring in more cars. Ms. Dacy stated Anoka County is probably doing the traffic counts. Anoka County takes traffic counts on an annual basis and gives the City the annual daily traffic count. The Anoka County Engineer has advised City staff is that in the future, they feel the only improvement the intend to make on Central Avenue may be a median from Rice Creek Road north 300-350 feet, so the access into the Moose Lodge property may be only a right-in, right-out at some future time. The median would restrict the traffic conflict. However, Anoka County has not indicated any type.of timeframe for the median. Mr. Stan Wrona, 2911 Lincoln Street N.E., stated the neighbors seem to be very concerned about liquor and debris. He stated that the neighbors can check with the Minneapolis Police Department that in 30 years at their Minneapolis location in a re5idential location, there were only two occasions where the Moose Lodge needed to call the police. He stated they are not a wild organization. They are strictly a fraternal organization. They are very quiet, and they take care of their own people. Ms. Jackie Calderon, 6401 Central Avenue, stated representatives from the Moose Lodge state that they have had no problems at their Minneapolis location, yet they are looking for new members. With new members, the Lodge is going to change, and there might be new problems they have never dealt with before. Mr. Joe Stzyzewski, 4724 - 2nd Street, stated that if a Moose member becomes drunk, obnoxious, or profane, that person's card is pulled for 60 or 90 days. That person is not allowed to come to the club during that period. The Moose Lodge is very serious about this. If that person continues to be drunk and obnoxious, then that person is no longer a member. That is why they do not have problems. Ms. Linda Nelson, 1357 - 64th Avenue, asked if the Moose Lodge members had any control over non-members who are guests who become disruptive. Mr. Stzyzewski stated, yes, they do. The member who brings a guest is responsible for that guest. If there is anyone who is PLANNING COMMI88ION MEETING, JIILY 11. 1990 PAGE 12 disruptive, he/she is asked to leave. If the person does not leave, then the bar is closed. There are special contracts that have to be signed when any wedding parties rent the hall, and those contracts must be abided by. On occasion, they have gotten hired security to avoid any problems. Michele Blomberg, 1385 - 64th Avenue, they moved into the neighborhood about 1 1/2 years ago. They bought a starter home, but they do not want to add onto their home or start a family with all the bars in this area. A bar is a bar. The Moose Lodge is going to depreciate their homes, and she is totally against this proposal. Mr. Saba stated that if the Planning Commission recommended that the Moose Lodge be restricted to beer only, will this cause a problem for the Moose Lodge? Mr. Cason stated if they were restricted to beer only, they would not be interested in building here. MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Mr. Saba, to close the public hearing. " IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTINa AYE, CHAIRPERBON BETZOLD DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIIBLY. Mr. Dahlberg stated he understands and appreciates the neighbors' concerns. A lot of valid issues have been raised; however, he did not see how any additional stipulations can be added without adversely affecting the petitioner's proposal. He thought those principal permitted uses in the C-1 district suggest that any number of uses could be put on this site that would cause potentially more problems ta the neighbors than the Moose Lodge might. Mr. Dahlberg stated that from the standpoint of the numbers that were raised about the building occupancy (750 and 300 occupants), if the Building Code is the document used to determine occupancy, the maximwn number of occupants for this facility would be around 300. That would suggest that if 750 were the number, that building would be about 12,000 sq. ft. for the bar and hall area and additional square feet for other functions within the building. He was sure the 750 nwnber is inaccurate and should be verified before the Council meeting. Mr. Dahlberg stated he would not recommend any additional stipulations, however, if parking restrictions on 64th Avenue would help, he would strongly encourage that. The Commission might want to encourage the petitioner to check out any possibilities of shared parking with the two parcels on the west side of Central Avenue, east of the proposed site. He did not a � e 7 PLANNING COZIIrlIBBION MEETINC�i. JIILY 11. 1990 PAGE 13 believe people from the Moose Lodge are going to park on 64th Avenue, because it is further to walk. Mr. Dahlberg stated he thought the Moose Lodge is a good use for the site, and he would recommend approval of the special use permit. Mr. Saba asked staff if there had been any discussion about limiting the hours of operation. Is it possible for the Planning Commission to recommend that liquor cannot be served after a specific time, such as 11:30-12:00? Ms. Dacy stated the Commission can always make that recommendation to the Council. She stated she would have the City Attorney evaluate what the best mechanism is to impose that type of restriction. If the hours of operation is on the use of the�liquor, then the question to the City Attorney is: Is a special use permit the appropriate vehicle to do it, or is with the liquor license itself? Mr. Saba stated he would recommend this be looked at. The concern of the people in the audience and people in general is, what happens when these facilities close and people with a little too much to drink are out on the road. There are several facilities in this area that are contributing to the noise and other problems. He stated he liked the plan. He did not have anything against the Moose Lodge, but the only way he could support this special use permit would be if the Commission recommends to the City Attorney the limiting of hours of liquor service in the facility. Mr. Betzold asked if the City has any similar restriction on other establishments selling liquor in the City of Fridley? Ms. Dacy stated she did not know, but staff could research that. Mr. Betzold stated he thought it would be very difficult to put this kind of restriction on the Moose Lodge and not on any facility selling liquor. If the Commission decides this is the standard, they would almost have to make it uniform for every facility that has a liquor license. Mr. Saba stated his major concern is that these facilities basically depend on serving liquor to exist, and the Commission members all know the problems liquor is causing in their neighborhoads. Mr. Rondrick stated he is in favor of the special use permit. It is a good use for this site. He stated his father was a policeman for 25 years on the north side, and there were never any problems with the Moose Lodge in Minneapolis. The Moose a pLANNING COMMI88ION MEETING JIILY 11 1990 PAGE 14 Lodge has been displaced by the City of Minneapolis because of renovation. Ms. Sherek stated she came to the meeting not knowing how she would vote. She has had a lot of reservations about how this site should be developed because it is so close to a residential neighborhood. She also realized that Mr. Mochinski has made a real effort over the years to come to the City with a project that would be decent for the neighborhood and, at the same time, be developable on that site. There is no market for the office space nor enough traffic. Soil correction costs makes housing an impossibility. Ms. Sherek stated she appreciated the neighbors' concerns. She stated her parents and uncles have been Moose Lodge members for many years. She had to agree with the Acting Governor that of all the places where she has attended weddings, the Moose Lodge is one of the most orderly places. As Mr. Stzyzewski stated, she has literally seen them close the bar. She could appreciate what the neighbors have said about the fact that Joe Dimaggio's has created some problems for this area, but it is wrong to tar the Moose Lodge with the same brush as a sports bar. Therefore; she was in favor of the special use permit. Ms. Modig stated that she thought Mr. Mochinski has done a good job in trying to accommodate the neighborhood's concerns. She thought this is a good plan for the site. Maybe the Planning Commission should consider a stipulation about no parking on 64th Avenue. Most of the establishments in the area that serve liquor (Sandee's, Shorewood Inn, Knights of Columbus) have been in the area for many years. She stated she is in favor of this proposal and would recommend approval. Mr. Kuechle stated he shared the concerns of the neighbors about liquor, however, he did not believe they could put the Moose Lodge in the same category as a sports bar such as Joe Dimaggio's, because it is a quasi-private club. Because of the other uses that could go into a C-1 district, he thought this is a good plan and he would vote in favor of it. Mr. Betzold stated this is a penaitted use with a special use permit, so the Planning Commission has to come up with cogent� reasons in order to recommend denial of the special use permit. Overall, he did agree that the Moose I�dge is going to be a better neighbor than some other organizations. This is a somewhat a private club and is not open to the general public. It sounds like it is somewhat self-policing. It is an older, more mature segment of the population, not a motorcycle gang. It is a reasonable use for the property. Mr. Betzold stated he also shared the neighbor's concerns. The use of liquor is not just confined to this particular e y PLANNING COMMI88ION MEETING, JIILY il. 1990 PAGE 15 neighborhood, and if the City is going to clamp down on the establishments that serve liquor, they have to look at all the establishments in the City, not just the Moose Lodge. They cannot single out this particular facility. Mr. Betzold stated that the off-street parking is a concern, and this can be addressed now or later. It is his opinion to let it go now, see how it works, and if there are parking problems, then they can do something about it. Also, as Mr. Mochinski has stated, other proposals for this site are just not qoing to happen. OM TION by Ms. Sherek, seconded by Ms. Modig, to recommend to City Council approval of special use permit, SP #90-10, by Richard Mochinski, per Section 205.13.O1.C.(1) of the Fridley City Code to allow theaters, lodges, and assembly facilities on Lots 17 and 18, Block 2, Spring Valley, generally located at Rice Creek Road and Central Avenue N.E., with the following stipulations: 1. Lot 17 and 18 shall be combined into one tax parcel. 2. A drainage and utility easement shall be reserved over the east 30 feet of the parcel and shall be submitted prior to the issuance of a building permit. �• 3. A street easement shall be reserved over the east 30 feet of the parcel and shall be submitted prior to the issuance of a building permit. 4. A special use permit shall be approved prior to any building expansion. 5. Maximum seating capacity shall be limited to 300 persons, or the regulations provided by the Fire Code, whichever is most restrictive. 6. The parking situation be reviewed in two years. Ms. Sherek stated the reason for the sixth stipulation is that in two years if there is a parking problem, the City could set parking restrictions on 64th Avenue and explore the possibility of cross parking easements. IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERBON BETZOLD DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIIBLY. Ms. Dacy stated this item will go to Council on July 23. MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Ms. Sherek, that in response to the concern about the hours during which liquor is served, the City Attorney and City Council look at the possibility of more restrictive hours of liquor service; for example, 11:30-12:00 � PLANNING COlrIIrlIBSION MEETIN(3 JIILY 11 1990 PAGE 16 p.m., and to find out the number of establishments serving liquor in the City of Fridley. IIPON A VOICE VOTE, DAHLBERG VOTIN(� NAY� CHAIRPER80N BETZOLD DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED. Mr. Dahlberg stated that he thought it is a waste of the City Attorney's time and City's money to go through any kind of significant analysis, discussion, and review of this motion. His reason was primarily because it is a society issue and he did not know where it starts. He is not optimistic that they can effect any positive change relative to this whole issue at this point. Mr. Kondrick stated Mr. Dahlberg is right; however, someone has to say something at some time, and maybe someday society will change. Mr. Dahlberg stated that, in his opinion, society is changing for the better, that social drinking in this day and age is significantly different than it was even ten years ago, and that people drink less. The problems that were discussed relative to Joe Dimaggio's are because of the age category that sports bar attracts. Mr. Betzold stated this issue will be discussed again at the City Council public hearing, so the City Council and the City Attorney will have to be prepared for that discussion. 2. CObiSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO DETERMINE CONSISTENCY OF THE REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN• Ms. Dacy stated the resolution will approve the proposed amendments to the city's Redevelopment Plan and the proposed Tax Increment Financing Plan for Tax Increment District No. 11 for the Fridley Town Square Shopping Center. The expansion includes the two single family homes which are under option by the developer at this point and will be removed so this area can be redeveloped for the 28,000 sq. ft. shopping center. Ms. Dacy stated staff and the HRA have developed a tentative agreement with the development that this will be a pay-as-you-go project and that the amount of assistance, $400,000, will be basically retired from the taxes generated from the project within six years. Ms. Dacy stated staff recommends that the Planning Commission agree that the proposed expansion of the redevelopment area and the creation of the district is consistent with the City's Comprehensive Plan. Although the plan does not refer specifically to this site, they do adopt by reference the HRA goals and objectives for each of the redevelopment areas, and the h Q PLANNIN(3 CO1rIIriI88ION MEETING, JIILY 11. 1990 PAGE 17 HRA has determined that this project is consistent with the goals of that district. Staff recommends the Planning Commission approve the resolution. Mr. Dahlberg asked if staff had considered expanding the redevelopment area even further to the east to 5th Street to care into account the potential for any further development in that area. Mr. Robertson stated, yes, that can be done. The problem is that the way the State Legislature has now written the State Law, if they were to create the district and nothing were to happen within three years, they have to be certified again. So, timing- wise, it is better to wait until they get a project. Mr. Dahlberg stated that as long as there is that possibility in the future to modify the district without any problems, then that answers his questions. MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Mr. Dahlberg, to approve of "Resolution of the Fridley Planning Commission Concerning the Fridley Housing and Redevelopment Authority's Redevelopment Project and Tax Increment Financing Proposals". IIPON A VOICE VOTE, BIIE BHERER VOTIN(� NAY� CHAIltPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED. 3. RFrEIVE JUNE 19 1990 APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: OM TION by Mr. Kuechle, seconded by Mr. Kondrick, to receive the June 19, 1990, Appeals Commission minutes. IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERBON RONDRICR DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIIBLY. ADJOURNMENT• MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Mr. Saba, to adjourn the meeting. IIpon a voice vote, Chairperson Betzold declared the July li, 1990, Planainq Commiasion meetinq adjourned at 10:10 p.m. Respectfully s mitted, Ly e Saba Recording Secretary g I G N- IN 8 8 S$ T ----..,�..� nn�+tIBSION lSEETING, J�y 11, 1.990 __� Q �% �" _" � � ` � � ° t STAFF REPORT APPEALS DATE C�QF PLAMING COM��SS14N DATE :.ruly 25, 1990 FRI DLEY CITY COI�IqL DATE �urHOa �_ REQUEST PERMIT NUMBER APPLICANT PROPOSED REQUEST LOCATION SITE DATA s�zE DENSITY PRESENT ZON�VG ADJACENT LAND USES 8� ZONNG UTLRES PARK DEDICATION ANALYSIS FWANCIAL tMPLICATiONS CONFORMANCE TO COMPREI�NE PLAN COMPATIBILITY WITH ADJACENT USES 8� ZONNG ENVIRONMENTAL CONSIDERATIONS STAFF RECOMMENDATION APPEALS RECOMMENDATION PLANN�VG COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION SP ��90-11 Steiner Development; The Gym Allow commercial recreation in M-1, Light Industrial, zoning district 261 Coffinerce Circle South N.E. Lot: 67,941 square feet Building: 26,408 square feet M-1, Light Industrial M-1, Light Industrial to West, North, South, and East Yes Yes Approval with stipulations 4 Staff Report SP #90-11, The Gym Page 2 Reauest Steiner Development is requesting a special use permit to allow commercial recrea�ion in an M-1, Light Industrial, zoning district. The property in consideration is Lots 9 and 10, Block 2, Paco Industrial Park, the same being 261 Commerce.Circle South N.E. Site A multi-tenant building of approximately 26,400 square feet is located on the property. Located to the west of the parcel is another multi-tenant building owned by the petitioner of approximately 52,000 square feet. The property is zoned M-1, Light Industrial, as is the property to the east, north, west and south. Analysis The Fridley Zoning Code allows commercial recreation as a special use in the M-1 zoning district. There are five standards which must be met prior to the issuance of a special use permit. Those standards include adequate parking supply, signage (tenants are limited to wall signage), levels of service on adjacent roadways, and compatibility with adjacent uses. These standards are outlined in Section 205.17.01.(3).(a-f) of the Fridley Zoning Code. The petitioner is requesting that a special use permit be issued in order to allow the petitioner's tenant, The Gym, to occupy 5, 500 square feet in the 26,400 square foot multi-tenant building described previously. Two tenants are currently occupying space in the building; Bayer Automotive occupies 5,500 square feet and Tower Electronics Inc. occupies 15,400 square feet (tenant information is included at the end of this staff report). The Gym is a facility that provides the opportunity to specialize in weight lifting and body building activities. This facility is more specialized than a general purpose health club like U.S. Swim and Fitness or Northwest Racquet, Swim and Health. The proposed facility will include a training center, men's and women's locker rooms, rest rooms, and a training desk. The petitioner has indicated that the anticipated membership for The Gym is �oo�= aoo members and the expected usage will average approximately 15 members during the hours of 6:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. and 35 members during the hours of 5:00 p.m and 11:00 p.m. Using the standards outlined by the zoning code, staff has analyzed the request. The most important of these standards is that there be an adequate parking supply, not only for the proposed tenant but for full occupancy of the building. The two tenants currently in the building require 27 parking spaces. This has been determined by both the office and warehouse ratios (please see exhibit—S�a�T' Report SP #90-i1, The Gym Page 3 entitled nParking Spaces Required"). The site provides 41 spaces. This would allow The Gym to have 14 spaces. The zoning code does not specifically outline a parking space to building floor ratio for commercial recreation uses. However, the ratio of 1 space per 435 square feet has been used in the�past to apply to commercial recreation uses (the Northwest Racquet, Swim and Health). Applying this ratio, the number of spaces needed by The Gym would be 13. The number of spaces available for The Gym is 14. The greatest number of parking spaces needed by The Gym are needed during the off-peak hours; 6:00 - 11:00 p.m. The petitioner also owns the multi-tenant industrial building to the west of the subject parcel and has indicated that cross-parking opportunities would be available for The Gym at this lot. Staff analyzed the parking requirements for the tenants in this building, and determined that current tenants occupying the westerly bLrilding require 51 spaces based on the office and warehouse ratios. As there are 106 spaces available on the westerly parcel, it appears that there are cross- parking opportunities for The Gym. The other stan� a special use City determine uses. The pro; adjacent uses In addition, t to increase th Recommendation lard outlined by the zoning code for the issuance of permit for commercial recreation require that the the compatibility of the proposed use with adjacent �osed tenant is compatible with adjacent uses as the are more warehousing than manufacturing in nature. ie proposed use will not generate levels of traffic : level of service on adjacent public streets. The petitioner has indicated that there is adequate parking for the proposed use, the proposed use does not generate enough traffic to increase the level of service on adjacent roadways, and the proposed use is compatible with adjacent uses. Staff recommends that the Planning Commission recommend approval of the request with the following stipulations: 1. 2. 3. The tenant signage shall be limited to wall signage. The building owner shall inform prospective tenants that the property is zoned for industrial use. Future expansion of the commercial recreation use shall require a special use permit. 4. Cross-parking easements shall be recorded against both parcels owned by the petitioner (Lots 6, 7, and 8 and Lots 9 and 10, Block 2, Paco Industrial Park). a PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE PLANNING COr+II�IISSION Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the Fridley Planning Commission at the Fridley Municipal Center, 6431 University Avenue N.E. on Wednesday, July 25, 1990 at 7:30 p.m. for the purpose of: Consideration of a Special Use Permit, SP #90- 11, by The Gym, per Section 205.17.O1.C.(4) of the Fridley City Code, to allow commercial recreation uses, on Lots 9 and 10, BLock 2, Paco Industrial Park, generally located at 261 Commerce Circle South N.E. Any and all persons desiring to be heard shall be given an opportunity at the above stated time and place. DONALD BETZOLD CHAIRMAN PLANNING CO1rII�IISSION Publish: July 11, 1990 July 18, 1990 Any questions related to this item may be referred to the Fridley Community Development Department, 571-3450. SP 4i90-11 The Gym - - • • ---- --- ------ J � J < 1 � •• rrl� w Z -- ' _� l' � ' a� . �T� Yi a C �, �s •�r �+ '� � Z � i� � �� '� _� � :. I�' � � �- -� v ; �� i � r. 3 2 � � � r� ~ Q I � �j% __ , I ,�l '�� _ _ � � S �' ~ L � � � � ^ � �� ! 3 � �dtiv✓s� �r r >b•w � ` ,, � � '� t � i W ; � � '! � t �i 3 �� : ; (� i: ? ; c5� �— —.— W ' �_ � �j� � '` (Jj „r�.�,� !� ------ �� _ � �_ _ �� 0 � � �00lO) `� � . V ' 3 . � � • , � c� ,, ' G c� 6 - � „ ; �; r W � � 1 � s �w�rsc � �So� r � � � � I �� o � I � e I �� -- � � I'� .�'• � `'~'�. ,, �' e ' / � � � i " ' � ,,, a �COMMERCE I - � ,�.�. 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' � a: � • w _,� Co„«v�e� G•� �e. _ � ' ' � i I ., �i .I J 1' r �!. �� B�' !I ;. , : � ..t E. , � ;• � '! v� �' �� .° : � Y SITE PLAN INFORMATION SHEET # 9001-10 11,000 Square Feet 261-271 COMMERCE CIRCLE SOUTH Fridley BASE RENT 11,000 sq. ft. whse. C$3.00 =$2750.00/mo. 11,0� sq. ft. TOTAL $2750.00/mo. 1990 R.E. TAXES (EST.) 11,OQ0 sq. ft. @ $1.19 = $1091.00/mo. COMMON AREA EXPENSES (EST.) 11,000 sq. ft. @ $0.55 = $504.00/mo. • Bays are Divisible • 12' x 12' Drive-In Doors • 14' Clear For Friendly Information Ca1L• 473-5650 . \ Ste�ner -` Development, Inc. e _�— Steiner � •�' Development, Inc. 1. 2. 3. City of Fridley Plan Review Checklist Bldg. Name: Paco Industrial Park Building Bldg. Address: 261 Commerce Circle South Legal: Applicant: Lots 9& 10, Block 2, Paco Industrial Park The Gym 14435 North 28th Place Plymouth, MN Owner. Trustee Group Realty Partners I c/o Steiner Development, Inc. 3610 South Highway 101 Wayzata, MN 55391 4. Not Applicable 5. Occupancy of approximately 5,500 square feet in an approximately 26,408 square foot building by The Gym, a training facility specializing in weight lifting and other fitness activities. The facility will include a training center, men's and women's locker rooms, restrooms and training desk. Anticipated membership is 300 to 400 members with expected usage averaging approximately 15 members between 6 am and 4 pm, and 35 members between 5 pm and 11 pm. 6. Zoning M-1 7. Size of Parcels: Parcel 1- Approximately 67,941 square feet Parcel 2- Approximately 135,225 square feet Gross Floor Area of Buildings Parcel 1- Approximately 26,408 square feet (38.9% coverage) Parcel 2- Approximately 51,915 square feet (38.4% coverage) Projected Employees: Maximum of 3 to 4 Parldng Spaces Required: From 6 am to 4 pm - Approximately 19 From 4 pm to 11 pm - Approximately 39 Number of Parldng Spaces Provided: Parcel 1 - 41 spaces Parcel 2 - 106 spaces 0 , 612 473 7058 07�20�9e 11t07 a 612 4T3 7e56 Parking Spaces Required ��I �� Ii70 &AR AU10ht�TIVE 7030 �O�l'R ELCCT�t�F�I� I�. y� v�c�n r�.�i cx�`c� s. �v Y°� 5160 tiIDt�.�f 1t�0.�Tf1. 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V you're :�steroids in bis. gym and tbat hds loolmg for a fimess aent�r whene ;;�ing other gym owaess to do the -you put on your makeup .and �. in iad, Ynngner =sid, .he xou'te social and do some train- : � nndcrwrite tbe dn� tGStinB : ing, that's U.S. Swim dt Fm�s' � last July for the Mr. ' M�anesota You can't compete against them."-��ody Bu�ding Champions6ipa. `• " � . • stwr- :�'.' 4' s � .^��.•,1 ,. ' _T<2,-�;. `-'--�,•r?R - 61 E:��' �Yungner rarefully �oints��ont, �`It'a�aidcmiog,° � eaid �'Iri the ;;however, �6at -his are -eomplete � te�iy . . a�e ilevdoped` all the t�sinicg ae]nters for anyone aho �;op �but theiz wasa't really has a g,oal in mind Aad that is�a atavids problem badc . in '79, evid�t from some of bis clieats:. �!80,'81 '82, '83." ��, '�. • • . , -� _: o.-�� ,.i:�4�. -�� .�:� �. �, z��;� �"�� -� Walk~ into Yun e�a � 2�T `:� .. sn c� -m .- tn � e�y`aay� n�°aian't �� ym�n �a you�n w�y w ena -`� a,w s� �� ed up worldng out side by ffide with ��' He was ° more, oonoerned p r o w�r�tlers Jesse (7he BodY) .Ywith thin,gs snch"ss 5nding «lui� Ventura, the Road �Warriors, �mant :,�� ` �� =�`�: = :.� �,�-�; �R •. . -$� Of i�1C � tCBIa DCmO�IOD '-r`:`* r . _ .. , , . ..oa xua� xoio� ��: 1 s:S� J L�:}i . �� Yra ��t ��e �� f� o�a . . y , °. `` � °;w�eight lifting equipment and steel "I don't wre if`Yon're SS � 60 -bar bells, and we'd buy ffie stuff yeazs ald, if you're 20 yea�s old or �s �cheap and make all of our i--want to be a pro footbaD player�or'�ben °: he said. ° It took two you've got a heart prnblem and � yeats to 'attract 100 members want to get in beuer cacdiovascu-�� thro�h aand of mouth. Yun�er, lar ahape," he aaid. ;�"This is 'a' ' who oonld not afford w pay him- anta whe�+ee you can ascamplis�h �` self a salary nntil thrce Yeazs e8o� e your `goals. You can iose jrour � eventually bnilt a large enough body �at so you have beiter aind == following W move W Plymouth in and endurance. You'ze stmn�er, _ -1986. _ _� �_ _ � :� -- : A -, , you get in �etter shape and �m- . _ . � °' . prove your health.„ ''"' .'I '. .� t i,YJoone�(HaPfensPiiger) and Pete . ,: ,r- � -.,; . � - t �''f�.', � (Moen) Bot ns going over nation- His Gym is cre�ited with produo- ally, and my membership (due w ing some of the state's best lmown �= :tbat publicaty) just doubled," he champions in free wei8hts, Power- �asaid. '"I'he next thing to do aas lifting and body-building. The lisc �_ get the land and zoning, and this includes body-building champion projact (in Plymouth) just bal- ]oone Hopfenspitger, w6o won a.� looned and ballooned, and my � �� Ms. America title in 1985, a Ms. overhead was going from SS,000 World tide in 1986 and an Inter- .-to S 18,000. It was really hard the national Body Building champi- fust oouple of yea�s here.^. onship in 1987. �ve Mr. Minne- , sotas, seven Teenage Mr. Minne-_ He'll hold a lOth-anniversary cele- sotas and and four world reF .bration and an open house Oct 21 ordholders in power lifling also for the Gym. worked ont regularly at Yungne�s - gyms. The recordholders are Yunpner, aho could bench press Heide Kasset, Wayne Bloom and 400 pounds when he was 19, c� Barry Daisow, who �vresdes as lmowledges that runniag the busi- Smash of the tag team Demoli- � ness � him away 6rom Vain- tioq aad Bzad Kretch. - jng In fact, he hasn't worked out Most of tt�e . le aho aork out � him £rom '�nin f dcem't stop � at the Gym are�'mtemsted primari _ _ _ y g ly in shaping up, and that's a1L ,, "When you stop worldng out your But Yun,ener, like the industir}r, � muscles aren't �oing to get used as faces the sense that the pubhc � much," he sazd. 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L' . � � : � � f' i'. �' C � . .. °° � .. 8� w e�� da �'� �� d �"'.. . .��3 6.0�� ._. � o. .�, � '. �o .:8 �E�.�Bro a�-,�@�Pi .., ; . - ,�,,,-� �^ o � � � STAFF REPORT APPEALS DATE C��OF PLAMiNf' COMurSSION DATE : July 25, 1990 FRlDLEY GTY COUVqL DATE A� �= REQUEST PERMIT NUMBER APPLICANT PROPOSED REQUEST LOCATION SITE DATA SIZE DENSITY PRESENT ZON�VG ADJACENT LAND USES 8� ZONNG UTL.frES PARK DEDICATION ANALYSIS FlNANCIAL IMPLICATIONS CONFORMANCE TO COMPREI�NSNE PLAN COMPATIBILITY WITH ADJACENT USES 8� ZONIVG ENVIRONMENTAL CONSIDERATIONS STAFF RECOMMEI�ATION APPEALS RECOMMENDATION PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION SP 4�90-12 The Robert Larsen Partnership Allow offices not associated with the principal use in an M-2, Heavy Industrial, zoning district University Business Center; 7201-7251 University Avenue N Lot: 7.6 acres Building: 47,170 square feet M-2, Heavy Industrial M-2, Heavy Industrial to the East, South, and West; R-1, Single Family Dwelling to the North 0 Yes Yes Approval with one�stipulation a Staff Report SP #90-12, The Page 2 Request Robert Larsen Partnership The Robert Larsen Partnership is requestinq that a special use permit be granted to allow an office not associated with a principal use in the University Business Center located at 7201 University Avenue N.E. The proposed tenant is a medical use; skin care product research and development facility. Site The property is located at the intersection of the east University Avenue Service Road and Northco Drive, generally in the vicinity of 73rd Avenue and University Avenue. A new multi-tenant office/showroom/warehouse facility is being constructed on the parcel. Ana� Section 205.18.C.(i) of the zoning code allows for offices not associated with a principal use to be allowed in the M-2 district with a special use permit. The zoning code has one standard which needs to be evaluated when issuing a special use permit for this type of use. That standard states "The parking supply shall be in compliance with the requirements of Section 205.18.5 of the City Code and be sufficient to support full occupancy of the building. Parking requirements shall be determined by the City for each tenant prior to occupancy.�� • The proposed site plan for the entire multi-tenant building provides 192 parking spaces. This is based on a ratio of 1 space for every 245 square feet of building area. Section 205.18..05.0 of the Fridley Zoning Code outlines the parking ratio requirements for various uses. Within that section of the code, item #1 requires 1 space for every 250 square feet of office use, and #5 within the same section requires 1 space for each 500 s of speculative buildinq floor area. g Quare feet y providing 1 space per 245 square feet of buildinq floor area, the developer is using a smaller ratio to determine the available parkinq spaces on-site. The proposed office tenant will be leasing approximately 12,500 square feet of building space. Of that 12,500 square feet, 4,000 square feet will be devoted to the research and development. If the 1 per 250 ratio is applied to the 12,500 square feet, the use will require 50 parking spaces. The City has issued building permits to current tenants which are usinq 36 parking spaces. This means that currently 86 parking spaces will be used by the known tenants. Staff Report SP #90-12, The Robert Larsen Partnership Page 3 Subtracting the 86 spaces from the 192 spaces provided on-site results in 106 parking spaces for the remaininq tenants. The remaining tenant space within the building totals 24,500 square feet. Applying the 1 per 250 square feet ratio assumes that the remaining tenant spaces will be devoted solely to office use. This would require that 98 additional parking spaces be provided for the remaining tenants. Therefore, there are adequate parking spaces remaining to fulfill the zoning requirement. It is highly unlikely that the remaining 24,500 square feet will be devoted solely to office use. Therefore, the required parking spaces for the remaining tenant spaces will more than likely be less than the 98 required if the spaces were solely devoted to office use. Recommendation As the site provides adequate parking spaces for the entire occupancy of the building, staff recommends that the Planning Commission recommend approval of the special use permit request to the City Council with the following stipulation: 1. The building owner shall notify the City upon change in tenant use and parking availability. 2. Expansion of the office use shall require a special use permit. PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the Fridley Planning Commission at the Fridley Municipal Center, 6431 University Avenue N.E. on Wednesday, July 25, 1990 at 7:30 p.m. for the purpose of: Consideration of a Special Use Permit, SP #90- 12, by The Robert Larsen Partners, per Section 205.18.O1.C.(1) of the Fridley City Code, to allow offices not associated with a principal use, on Lot 2, Block 1, Northco Business Park, generally located at 7201 University Avenue N.E. Any and all persons desiring to be heard shall be given an opportunity at the above stated time and place. DONALD BETZOLD CHAIRMAN PLANNING COMMISSION Publish: July 11, 1990 July 18, 1990 Any questions related to this item may be referred to the Fridley Community Development Department, 571-3450. �a SP 4�90-12 MAILING LIST Planning 7/6/90 Robert Larsen Partners Council The Robert Larsen Partners Larry Luck George Deutsch 730 Second Avenue South, 4�281 7341 Lyric Lane N.E. 7311 Symphony Street N.E. Minneapolis, MN 55402 Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432 Tri-State Land Company James Lawrence Timothy Norgren 1601 Soo Line Building 7340 Tempo Terrace N.E. 7321 Symphony Street N.E. Minneapolis, MN 55428 Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432 Winfield Development 5780 Lincoln Drive Edina, MN 55435 Columbia lce Arena 7011 University Avenue N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Public Works Garage 400 - 71st Avenue N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley Business Partn. 1201 Marquette Avenue, ��110 Minneapolis, MN 55403 James Freberg 7331 Tempo Terrace N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 James Warhol 7321 Tempo Terrace N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Richard Almstead 7311 Tempo Terrace N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Harvey Benson 7301 Tempo Terrace N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 John Bielawski 7311 Lyric Lane N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Carol Oberlander 7321 Lyric Lane N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Bruce Smith 7331 Lyric Lane N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Clifford Fabianke Donald Johnson 7330 Tempo Terrace N.E. 7331 Symphony Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432 James Bergerson Arthur Jytyla 7320 Tempo Terrace N.E. 7311 Concerto Curve N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432 James Holmen Kermit Dahlke 7310 Tempo Terrace N.E. 7321 Concerto Curve N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432 Thomas Stimart Robert Nielsen 7300 Tempo Terrace N.E. 7331 Concerto Curve N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432 Clifford Boltman 7301 Lyric Lane N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Eugene Buechler 7340 Lyric Lane N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Allan Quam 399 - 73rd Avenue N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Norman Young 7330 Lyric Lane N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Robert Kay 7320 Lyric Lane N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Earl Noble 7301 Lyric Lane N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Raymond Maki 7341 Concerto Curve N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Ray Cramble 7340 Memory Lane N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Jack Hokenstrom 7320 Memory Lane N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Irving Twito 7310 Memory Lane N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Arlyn Jordan 7300 Memory Lane N.E. Eridley, MN 55432 Ronald Killian 7301 Concerto Curve N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Phillip Knutson Willis Erickson 7301 Symphony Street N.E.7341 Memorq Lane N.E. Fridley, rIld 55432 Fridley, MN 55432 SP ��90-12 Robert Larsen Partners Page 2 David Kiefner 7331 Memory Lane N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Constance Ahrens 7321 Memory Lane N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Bennhard Hedlund 7311 Memory Lane N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Arlen Hallberg 7301 Memory Lane N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 John Giedlinski 7311 Melody Drive N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Edward Windels 7321 Melody Drive N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Phyllis Parviainen 7331 Melody Drive N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 David Turbitt 7341 Melody Drive N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Thomas Zembal 7340 Concerto Curve N.E. Fridley, NIN 55432 Dean Korsgren 7330 Concerto Curve N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Gene Heglund 7320 Concerto Curve N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 John Gassner 7310 Cancerto Curve N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 City Council Members Planning Commission Chair David Windeier 7300 Concerto Curve N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 David Lissner 7301 Melody Drive N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Donald Stark 7340 Melody Drive N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Francis Grewe 7330 Melody Drive N.E. �ridley, NIN 55432 Dennis Kudak 7320 Melody Drive N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Gerald Dahle 7310 Melody Drive N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Clifford Leacock 7300 Melody Drive N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Bruce Zwirtz 7315 University Avenue N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Ronald Mattson 7324 Symphony Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Edward Czarnecki 7312 Symphony Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 James Sandquist 7300 Symphony Street N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Ronald Pillard 7301 University Avenue N.E. Fridley, MN 55432 Chicago and North Western Transportation Company One North Western Center Chicago, IL 60606 � • � � � . , ,� � (�aml t ' , . � r. TRACT A � SP �90-12 The Robert Larsen P r nershi S �/2 SEC. //, T 3C � C/TY OF FR/OLEY I 31 10 • ` ` -- -- -, . , ��w. . . . . . n . �s . . TRACT - (�) P�� '� C � ? v ..; a t,� 1 � o- ' �' � s; � � ', ( ��T �O p . 3 . .,., :d"" ... . ti...... _ ..... ... ..-�--- c.....: , 4YY� Mn�r M//I �4�M� �. . . � .� . /. � � 33 � 1 �--�- c � TRACT 8,.�� P�� - 6 _ �Q,F.� a0 ..�. � , _ t /! ... • M• - . ^ ..�. I �r �. ' �� D�� ,� � �,; � I � d. < � COLUMBIA ARENA ,� i LG 1� . j ..,... . �. . :'`..... 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JO !lPdItl�69�lYV AHL'�tn4l� � ...... .. ,,... — A1 �� . ... r --- _ ._.... .._ __ � �� ,.. �, m,,.a �. �.� ihe Roberl Lorsm Palnert �L�� wmopo►w rri SsuJ 16(q 7?�:fi7 .. fridiav. Mrnesola c�, r .u� .. .. � �. �� Virgil C. Hercick James D. Hoek Gregg V. Herrick Of Counsel David P. Newman T0: FROM: DATE: RE: ��llAil01�� `C � �'V' l�� ATTORNEYS AT LAW M E M 0 R A N D U M Bar�b Dacy, Planning Coordinator Virgil Herrick, City Attorney ; �j June 26, 1990 � Location of the Associated Skin Care Clinic/Offices in M-2, Heavy Industrial Zoning District This memo is in response to your memorandum of June 25, 1990, regarding the above subject. You ask the question whether Associated Skin Care can locate a facility at 7201 University Ave. N.E. According to your memorandum, a portion of the facility is to be used for research and development laboratories, and the balance for physicians offices. This property is zoned M-2, or heavy industrial. Fridley City permitted in proposed use 205.18.O1.A. Code Section 205.18.01 lists the uses that are the M-2 district. I am of the opinion that the does not fall within the permitted uses listed in Section 205.18.O1.0 lists additional uses that may be Qermitted with a special use permit. Item 1 under this section allows offices not associated with a�rincipal use. The term office is not defined in Chapter 205; therefore, I believe that the normal definition should be applied. This section of the code does not restrict the type of office that may be included; therefore, it is proper to assume that a medical office would quality under this section. It should be noted that 205.18.O1.C(1) states that the parking requirement shall be in compliance with Section 205.18.5 and further that the parking requirement shall be determined by the City for each tenant prior to occupancy. If the Planning Commission and the Council find that this application meets the general requirements for a special use permit, it is my opinion that authority exists to grant a special use permit to the applicant. If the application for a special use permit is not approved, the applicant would have as an alternative the right to request that the lots in his plat that contain the building under construction be rezoned to a commercial zoning. VCH:ldb Suite 205, 6401 University Avenue N.E., Fridley, Niinnesoca 55432, 612-571-3850 t , CZTY OF FRIDLE Y IRONMENTAL 4vALITY ANU ENERGY COI�'IISSION MEETING E� � 19, 1990 Environmental TO OR�� the June 19, 19a�►�.30 p•m• CALL �alled to order erson Dahlberg ission meeting QualitY and EnergY Comm Dean Saba, Bradley 0 L LL: gusan Price, S�anda paul Dahl Ste e Stark, Richard Members Present: gielaff, Bruce Bondow Members A�Sent� Coordinator Barb Dacy, Planpia ning Associate Present: I,isa CamPbell, �D ENER� OtherS _�,.�,�,aT. UALITY �y 29 y-'- OF rove the May p,ppROVALON MI�TES: gvanda, tO app and EnergY COMMISS MOT � bY Mr• Sielaff, Sethe eEri irorri�oaental QualitY 29� 1990� minutes °f LgERG DECLARED meeting as written• D� Commission C�IgpERSON VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, UPON A VOICE IED UN�IMOUSLY• THE MOTIDN C� EW gUgINESS er _ gusan Price 1• Commission Me� new a. Welcome New Susan Price, Ms. er• intro and EnergY CO�°lssion �e� Mr. Dahlberq uality hts and moved Enviro�ental 4 Col�ia $eig from She is attendiin Ms. Price is original1Y�f her marr to ard a degree the time in the Auditor's to Fridley at College working �ounty Anoka-Ra�Se and work for Ar►oka Accounting ooks Off ice. gandb of E4E �rientation distributed b, Distribution hand��oks would be CamPbell stated the MS' on Friday• to members 2, p D BUSINESS J ENVIRONMENTAL QIIALITY l�ND $NERGY COI+II+iIBBION ME$TZNG JIINS 19 1990 PAGE 2 a. Review Final Draft of Solid Waste Fact-Finding Report Ms. Campbell stated the final draft has substantial changes, and those changes were made based on the input from Commission members. Ms. Campbell reviewed the document indicating the changes. Under II. Review of the Four Recycling Approaches, Evaluation Criteria, many of the terms at the beginning of the second paragraph were deleted at the suggestion of Mr. Burns. Under IV. Expansion Options, C. Multi-Units, the second sentence states that for each multi-unit added, abatement will increase by 25 pounds per month. This should be 25 pounds per month per household. Under Recommendation, Goal #2 should read, "To increase participation to 70� in 1991. Under Short Term Programming Strategy, at the end of the first paragraph, the in grant revenue for both 1992 and 1993 should read "estimated shortfall in grant revenue". Under Long Term Programming Strategies, paragraph 4, delete the second sentence. In paragraph 5, sentence 3, delete the word "approach". The substantial reworking of the body of the document included deleting excess explanations and adding the comments of the Commission members under Recommendation. The emphasis on the Recommendation is that this is the Commission's recommendation. If inembers have any further comments, please let Ms. Campbell know. Mr. Svanda asked why Ms. Campbell was recommending licensing over what the City has now. The report points out that the status quo satisfies 3 of 5 criteria wanted by the City Council, while licensing satisfies 3 of the 5, which makes them equal. Ms. Campbell stated that licensing was recommended in the event that funding is not available. There is also the competing goal to reduce or eliminate the cost to the City, and that is a goal that was there when the process was started. Mr. Svanda felt this depended on how one looked at the issue. Under either of those two options, it is going to cost the homeowner in the City of Fridley more money either through taxes or through direct billing from the haulers. It would seem that what we have now would be cheaper to the homeowner than the licensing approach. Ms. Campbell stated that right now the homeowner pays no direct costs. Even when they do, they pay only $2.23 for the first year and $5.00 for the second year. That is an option, and if they chose to bill the residents, this � ENVIRONMEII'I'AL QIIALITY AND pA(�E 3 $NERGY CO1��II+IIBBION MEETING. JIINE 19. 1990 is the expected result. This is looking at 1992 and r 1993. Mr. Svanda stated the City is now involved in recycling, and it will be difficult to get out of it. If the City is concerned about getting complaints from the ` homeowners, they will really get complaints if they go to licensing and the fees go up $5.00 or more. Mr. Dahlberg stated it is his understanding that there is an assumption that funding may not be there at that time; however, most of the members feel funding will be there. Mr. Svanda stated that the recommendation, as he reads it, to go to licensing is predicated on the fact that recycling is going to cost the City money. He agreed that at some point in time it will cost money. It's going to cost someone something. If you go to licensing, the homeowner is going to pay out an extra $5.00-$6.00 per month. Under the current system, it would cost the City probably less because of the economies of scale. Mr. Saba stated he addressed this issue at the last meeting. The issue was addressed as being tied to availability of funding both through SCORE funds and any other funding the City gets to promote recycling. It is something like a double taxation issue. Mr. Svanda stated he was under the assumption from reading the document that funds received costs not returned to the haulers to offset costs. Any covered would be billed to the resident. If that doesn't happen, he was not sure the City could then get that money because they have not incurred costs. Mr. Saba stated there were three major sources of funding: SCORE funds, Metropolitan Landfill Abatement funding, and Anoka County matching funds. Mr. Svanda was not sure the City could get any funds if the money was not put back into the program. Ms. Campbell stated the City could get funds for tons abated. Mr. Saba asked why the City would get funds for tons abated if they were not doing anything with it. Ms. Campbell explained that, currently, there is a performance formula so the City would get money for tons 0 ENVIRONMENTAL QIIAI.ITY l�ND $NERGY COMMISSION MEETING, JIINE 19. 1990 _ PAGE 4 abated and those funds may be used to pay for brochures, to pay for a staff person's salary, instead of paying contract services. Mr. Svanda felt that perhaps this should be another provision in the recommendation. If the City wants the money to get back into the program, that should be so stated. Ms. Campbell stated that originally she had suggested a pass-through subsidy per ton to the refuse haulers, but the City Manager did not like the idea because it would have a different effect for the large hauler than for the small hauler. Mr. Svanda felt, however, that the cost to the homeowner would be that much more. Ms. Campbell agreed. Perhaps this could include a provision that you do not charge the residents for a service as some cities have done, but even that money could not be passed through forever. Mr. Svanda stated that, under the current system, the City contracts with the hauler. Any shortfall comes from general revenues, and general revenues come from taxes. Those taxes are either taken from the residential base or from the entire base which is spread out over everyone. The unit cost would be less this way. Now, if one goes the other route with licensing, the SCORE funds and abatement funds, etc., would make its way back to the hauler to eventually offset the costs to the resident. Any shortfall to the hauler would be billed to the resident directly. That direct billing would be more than under current system, but would also be worse if the funds do not make their way back to the haulers. Ms. Campbell stated a provision within the recommendation could be added but she was not prepared to speak to how this would be implemented. Mr. Svanda stated it seems that, without the funds going to the hauler, the cost to the homeowner would be significantly more. Ms. Campbell stated that this pass through amount would be based on performance to reduce the cost to the homeowner. Mr. Svanda stated the City now contracts with Super Cycle which has been based on performance. There is a base ENVIRONMENTAL QIIALITY AND $NERGY COIrIIrII88ION MEETING, JIINE 19. 1990 PAGE 5 contract price with an additional amount paid according to the amount collected. He felt something similar to that would be under the licensing approach. It seemed to him this makes it more complicated. Mr. Saba indicated his understanding was that the City did not want to continue to be involved in contracting with Super Cycle and with providing this service, and the only way to do so is by licensing. Ms. Dacy stated that, in the short term, the City Council wants to have.this program break even. They feel they cannot transfer any monies from the General Fund. Instead of going to the licensing, the City Council could chose to charge the homeowner directly. Mr. Dahlberg asked, if the City is to remain in the process and takes the position that they will not take money from the General Fund, who pays for the shortfall. Ms. Dacy stated the City Council must decide if they are going to charge directly or go to licensing. Ms. Campbell stated that both of those approaches require significant government involvement. It is just a different type. Ms. Campbell wanted to remind members that while cost is a factor, the level of government involvement and participation levels are also a part. The recommendation talks to what the City Council has recommended and what the Commission wants. Ms. Campbell stated the first paragraph under Long Term Strategies should be revised to include the statement that, if funding falls short or under certain conditions, the City Council would then need to consider certain other options including licensing and/or charging residents. Mr. Svanda stated he wants to be sure that the City Council understands that the current system is the least costly to the resident. Ms. Campbell will identify that this is least costly. Mr. Sielaff stated he was having a problem fiquring out just which method is least costly. With the current system, in addition to the contract, there is also the cost of getting the contract and the cost of staff time. Ms. Campbell stated these costs were not considered in any of the options because these costs have not gone up J ENVIRONMENTAL QIIALITY AND BNERGY COMMISSION MESTING, JIINE 19. 1990 PAGE 6 as dramatically as the recycling contract costs, which have gone up 447� in the last five years. Administration costs are identified in the cost to the resident which includes administering the charge for the contract services. It does not include staff salary or brochures. This was done for simplicity. Mr. Sielaff stated he would like to know what the real cost is. If the City does get involved, then there are costs we should know about. Mr. Stark stated the costs could be quite variable. The City would have administrative costs associated with requesting bids for services as they would with administering and enforcing a licensing program. Ms. Campbell stated she has addressed administrative costs. The costs for licensing were slightly lower than our current method. Administrative costs for a corsortium or organized system were higher. Mr. Saba stated his biggest concern was that the resident would be paying one rate per hauler which is going to be an all comprehensive rate for everything that is hauled. Then in addition to this, there will be a recycling fee. To lower the bill, a resident could just not recycle and pay the one fee, saving a few dollars, and everything goes into the waste stream. Mr. Svanda stated this may happen, but there is a provision in the Waste Act that says no unprocessed solid waste shall go to the landfill. Mr. Saba stated that recycleable products can be processed at the burning facilities, rather than be recycled. Mr. Dahlberg asked if the burning facilities source separate the waste coming in. Mr. Saba stated the only thing they separate is the burnables from the non-burnables. The glass is separated, but the remainder is burned. Mr. Svanda stated that after burning some goes to the landfill and some gets reprocessed, such as "dirty waste", ie. co-mingled glass and some metals. Mr. Svanda stated his main concern is the cost to the resident. It seemed to him that, if there is a shortfall, the City would spread that cost over the � ENVIRONMENTAL QIIALITY AND $NERGY COMMI88ION MEETING. JIINE 19, 1990 PAGE 7 entire City to include residential, commercial and industrial. Mr. Saba agreed. The cost in this manner could be $2.00 to $5.00 per year as opposed to $2.00 to $5.00 per month if collected by the hauler. Mr. Sielaff was not sure that the economies of scale would assure lower costs. The marketplace and its competition could also keep costs down. Mr. Dahlberg asked Mr. Svanda how he would change the short term and long term recommendations to make it better for the homeowner. Mr. Svanda suggested that rather making a recommendation about an option, lay out the facts we want the City to consider which would be the cost to the homeowner whether that cost be through taxes or through a direct billing. Mr. Dahlberg stated that this would then read that the City Council consider the following criteria and elect whatever option they prefer to take at the present time and/or in the future. Ms. Campbell stated that the City's involvement in this program has always been a concern of the City Council. Mr. Stark stated that the Commission members are representing the residents of the City. In representing the residents, this means keeping the costs as low as possible. If that means increasing taxes and the overall effect is keeping costs down, then he felt that is what should be recommended. Mr. Saba agreed, but would like to modify that by saying the Commission and City Council are trying to do what is best for the residents of the City and hope that our recommendation would stress that. If this is something that the City agrees with, then this is something that must be worked out with the City Council. Mr. Dahlberg asked Mr. Svanda how he would change the long and short term recommendations. His suggestion was that we perhaps not make a recommendation, but rather list the criteria by which they should make their decision. In effect, that is what is being said through the entire report, but we are actually coming up with a solution. He felt that is what the City Council would like to have. ENVIRONMENTAL QIIALITY AND $NERGY COMMI88ION MBETING, J�NE 19. 1990 PAGE 8 Ms. Dacy stated that there are basically four alternatives of service. It is clear that the current system is what is desireable for as long as possible. The consortium and organized hauling meet only one or two criteria. That leaves licensing. The alternative to licensing is directly billing the resident. She felt this should remain in the recommendation. If the City Council then wants to look at those two and how they compare to the criteria, they can decide which is the most desireable. It sounds as though these are the only choices. Ms. Campbell stated she would include information on which is least costly to residents. Mr. Saba asked if it was possible to use the licensing approach to provide recycling pick up for multi-unit dwellings. Ms. Campbell felt this was an issue that could be addressed with the haulers when the commission meets with them, but it also needs more investigation to find out what other cities are requiring under licensing for multi-unit recycling. Mr. Saba stated that the cost of contracting with Super Cycle to pick up at multi-unit dwellings would cost $173,665 in additional to the contract. This cost, under licensing, would go back to the apartment owners which would be spread out in the rental fees. He hears many complaints from people in multi-tenant units that it is difficult to recycle. He would like to at least check into this. It is not feasible for the City to pick up these costs, but the issue needs to be addressed. Mr. Dahlberg stated it was the intent to look at some of these issues in the next few months, evaluate the multi- unit recycling programs and come up with some ideas about how to handle. Ms. Campbell stated we can discuss multi-unit participation and identify it as a subject that needs more research, or she could get the information together and add it as an attachment. This issue will be addressed. Mr. Stark felt that, under Evaluation Criteria, the biases #1 and #4 were the same. Ms. Campbell stated that #1 addresses the philosophy and #4 addresses the actual cost. She felt this was a ENVIRONMENTAL QIIALITY l�ND ENERGY COI+II�SISSION MEBTING, JUNE 19, 1990 PAGE 9 distinction because, even with licensing, when we eliminate the cost, we are still significantly involved. A statement could be added that speaks to the cost to the resident. Mr. Saba suggested that #4 read: The preferred method of service should limit additional costs to City government and to residents to the minimum cost required to meet the State mandated abatement goals. Mr. Svanda stated that then one has to look at how the options were evaluated. Ms. Campbell stated she could do this. Mr. Dahlberg stated the only difficulty might be whether or not limiting additional costs to the City is consistent with limiting cost to the resident. These are competing demands. He felt these should be split out. Ms. Campbell stated she felt it would not be a problem to readjust the recommendation and felt it made sense to do so. Ms. Campbell stated the section on Participation was based on Mr. Sielaff's comments that we have participation as a short term goal. In this part, we discuss purchasing containers. Mr. Dahlberg asked that this section title be changed to Participation Strategies. Ms. Campbell stated that the graph was not included with the document. Mr. Dahlberg stated that in terms of the container purchase and distrubution what we have determined is that the total cost would be $91,120 and revenues would be $85,119, which means there is a$6,000 deficit. Ms. Campbell stated that these costs are administration and promotion. For the next year, there a=e replacement costs with the assumption that new residents would pay full cost. Mr. Dahlberg referred to Mr. Saba's earlier statement about charging the residents for containers. Mr. Saba stated that what he had talked about is if they could not get any donations and if the City had to pick up the bulk of this, whatever cannot be obtained to BNVIRONMENTAL QIIALITY AND ENERGY COMMISSION KEETING JIINE 19 1990 PAGE 10 offset the costs would be offset by a charge on the garbage bill. Ms. Campbell stated that on the last page of Attachment #3 several approaches were identified. Contributions could be solicited but there would still be a charge of $4.00 per household; stagger the purchase of containers over two funding periods; and there may be some grant funds available from the Met Council, but these may have been cut from SCORE. There may be a way to avoid charging the resident. Mr. Saba agreed that the sources of funding needed to be identified. Ms. Campbell indicated that at the last meeting the. availability of SCORE funding was discussed at length. The commission felt it important to work toward trying to maintain that funding. Mr. Svanda felt that this was clear in the document, and agreed it important to show support of the funding. Mr. Sielaff stated he has a concern about the long term cost to the resident. The initial cost may be high, but what will be done to keep the long term costs down. Mr. Saba stated that the current system has two or three different rate structures based on the number of containers and whether or not there is yard waste. This encourages residents to recycle and reduce their waste, and the cost will go down. Ms. Campbell stated that if we begin charging residents and they do get two bills, if the two bills are less than less than the total of the one, it will work out. Mr. Saba did not think there would be many complaints. Ms. Campbell stated, from the recycling managers point of view, the residents should pay because they are generating the materials. Mr. Dahlberg stated the goal was to have the document complete so it can go to City Council next Thursday. Ms. Dacy stated that Mr. Burns had requested the City Council see a draft for informational purposes. In today's staff ineeting, she and Mr. Burns will set a date to present to the City Council, perhaps at the end of July. ENVIRONMENTAL QIIALITY li1ldD $NER(iY COl�IIrII88ION MEETING. JIINE 19. 1990 PAGE 11 Ms. Campbell will revise and the document will again be reviewed at the July meeting. Mr. Dahlberg thanked Commission members and Ms. Campbell for their efforts in obtaining information and preparing the document, and expressed appreciation to Lynne Saba for her work in preparing the document and making the numerous revisions. b. Review Workplan Items for Setting July and August Meeting Agendas Mr. Dahlberg stated a copy of the Workplan was included with the agenda. The Solid Waste Fact-Finding Report would be discussed at the July meeting, and felt another item could be added if time would allow. Ms. Campbell stated that Mark Winston could be invited to attend the next meeting and provide information about GIS. Mr. Winston has agreed to talk to the Commission and will be asked to attend the July meeting. Mr. Sielaff felt that GIS was important and should be discussed. Mr. Dahlberg stated that in previous meetings other topics were discussed to be included on the agenda. Mr. Stark stated there have been environmental issues raised at previous meetings, but he has not yet heard anything on these issues. Mr. Saba referred to Goal #7 on the Workplan and asked if anything was being planned. He would like to see a household hazardous waste collection day. Ms. Campbell stated that staff were looking at a fall cleanup day. It will not be possible to have a house- hold hazardous waste collection. The SCORE legislation identifies the counties as the responsible parties for household hazardous waste. The counties are required to have permanent programs in place by 1993. A group of cities in Anoka County, including Fridley, have approached the MPCA and Anoka County about conducting a collection before that time. Apparently, the nature of the response has been such that we have decided not to apply. The problem is that the MPCA policy has not changed from last year. They are not funding cities in the metro area for such a program. What could be done is do an article for the Fall newsletter on how to manage ENVIRONMENTAL QIIALITY l�ND PAGE 12 ENERGY COMMI88ION MEETING JIINE 19 1990 household hazardous waste. This could be done in conjunction with the closing of the used oil collection site, which is being closed because of contamination. Mr. Dahlberg stated that the August agenda then will include discussion on a household hazardous waste article and also include items from Goal #8, to obtain and distribute accurate information on energy conservation and related issues. Perhaps there would be an Environmental Quality and Energy newsletter. Ms. Campbell stated the commission could work with the City newsletter for the household hazardous waste information and perhaps have an energy focus for the winter newsletter. 3. OTHER BUSINESS a. Magazine Articles Mr. Saba referred to copies of articles included with the agenda from the May/June 1990 issue of GarbaQe magazine. This magazine is an excellent environmental magazine which covers a wide variety of issues regarding the environment. The City has a subscription to the magazine for the commission. The magazine is printed on recycled paper and can also be recycled after the cover is removed. b. Yard Waste Site Mr. Stark asked for an update on the yard waste site. Ms . Campbel l stated a monitor was hired who was there until the end of May. They are having difficulty hiring a monitor for the site. We hope to have coverage by next Tuesday. We have proposed a$3/trip fee. The City Council has approved the monitor but not the fee at this time. We have calculated the costs to be $2.73 per trip, as of the end of May with a lower hourly rate of pay for the monitor. The pay rate will be going up. Current estimated costs are $3/trip. In this way, if residents know it is a cost per trip, the volume per trip will increase. The volume at the site is near the maximum. Costs thus far are approximately 85� of what was estimated for the entire year. The City is the second largest generator going into the County site besides the rest of the County that is using the site. Refuse haulers are not using the Anoka County site, likely because of the fee. u $NVIRONMENTAL QIIALITY AND BNER(iY COI+II+IIBSION MEETINC�i, JIINE 19. 1990 PAGE 13 ADJOURNMENT OM TION by Mr. Stark, seconded by Mr. Saba, to adjourn the meeting. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON DAHLBERG DECLARED THE JUNE 19, 1990, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:00 P.M. Respectfully submitted, y`'.`J �.�� Lavonn Cooper Recording Secretary .�, CITY OF FRIDLEY �ppgAl,g COMMI88ION �[E$TING, JIILY 10, 1990 CALL TO ORDER• Vice-Chairperson Kuechle called the July 10, 1990, Appeals Commission meeting to order at 7.38 p.m. ROLL CALL• • Kuechle, Cliff Johnson, Cathy Smith, Members Present: Kenneth Vos (8:10 p.m.) Members Absent: Diane Savage Others Present: Barb Dacy, Planning Coordinator Michael Hurley, 3989 Central Avenue Evonne Tauer, 6161 Hwy. 65 James Nicklow, 6161 Hwy. 65 APPROVAL OF JUNE 19 1990 APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: pM TION by Mr. Johnson, seconded by Ms. Smith, to approve the June 19, 1990, Appeals Commission minutes as written. IIPON A VOICE VOTE,C ARRiED IINANIMOIISLY.vIC$_C�IRPERSON RIIECHLE DECLARED THE MOTION _ii_ BY WALTER RASMUSS�N: 1, Pursuant to Section 205.25.08.C.(1) of the Fridley City Code to reduce the sef=om 40 feethto 51 feet;n and verlooking the Mississippi River 2, Pursuant to Section 205.25.08ecnormalfhigh waterelinetofCthe to reduce the setback from th Mississippi River from 100 feet to 40 feet; and 3, Pursuant to Section 205.07.O1.B.(1) of the Fridley City Code to increase the maximum allowable �et fe t to 1 890 square accessory buildings from 1,400 squ feet; To allow the construction of a screened gazebo on Lots 11 and 12, � Estates 2nd Addition, the same being Block 5, Pearson s Craigway Minnesota. 7806 Alden Way N.E., Fridley, � APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, JIILY 10. 1990 _ PAGE 2 MOTION by Mr. Johnson, seconded by Ms. Smith, to open the public hearing. IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON RIIECHLE DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED l�ND THE PIIBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 7:45 P.M. Ms. Dacy stated the property is zoned R-1, Single Family, surrounded on the north, south and east by single family homes, and to the west is the Mississippi River. The 100 foot setback and the 40 foot setback are contained in the O-2 district, Critical Area restrictions. The subject property has two lots which are combined into one property. On Lot il is the residence and garage. Lot 12 has an accessory building which was granted a special use permit in 1986. Also at that time, the petitioner received a variance to enclose a deck and add on to the south and west sides of the home. There is also an existing screen house on the property near the river. Ms. Dacy reviewed the survey indicating the location of the bluff line from which the 40 foot setback is measured, and the location of the 100 foot setback which is measured from the edge of the Mississippi River. The variance is to have a gazebo 5 feet from the bluff line. The existing house encroaches into the 100 foot setback as would the gazebo. Ms. Dacy referred to the Site Plan. The property is very well kept and maintained. There are definite garden and lawn areas. The proposed gazebo is for entertaining and would replace the structure by the river. In the eyes of the ordinance, if there is an alternative to meet the ordinance, it must be identified through the variance process. The gazebo could be placed 40 feet back from the bluff line but it would require some changes in landscaping. Based on that, staff is recommending denial of variance requests 1 and 2. The third variance request would be necessary if the first two are granted because the ordinance requires a maximum of 1,400 square feet for the total square footage of accessory buildings. In 1986, the City Council did grant a variance to the petitioner for 1,649 square feet. Staff recommends denial of this request also. Mr. Hurley attended the meeting representing Mr. Rasmussen. There is 30-35 feet between the top of the bluff and the river which is extrememly high. As staff indicated, the property is very vegetated and wooded. His client, Mr. Rasmussen, has spent a considerable amount of money to landscape the area and has mature trees on the property. Anyone coming down the river to this location cannot see the property. It is completely wooded. Mr. Hurley showed the Commission photographs of the site to show the wooded areas of the property. From the pictures, one can see the property is an extremely wooded area. One thing the City wanted is to maintain the integrity and biological, ecological and aesthetic beauty of the river. In this patricular situation and APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, JIILY 10. 1990 PAGE 3 because of the location of the mature trees, the gazebo will not be seen from the river. The nature of the river is not harmed by any means. He did not feel there was any ecological or aesthetic harm to the area. The gazebo would be five feet from the bluff line and there would be no run off onto the bluff line. Mr. Hurley stated that, when considering the square feet, the purpose of the ordinance is to preserve the character of the neighborhood. This property is two full lots, a substantial amount of property. The gazebo is a temporary structure with a cement pad, moored down, something like a screened "porch". The landscaping that is on the site dictates the location of the gazebo. If the gazebo is placed outside the 100 foot area, it would mean doing a substantial amount of work to the property to make the gazebo fit. The property slopes at a rather severe angle. The entire purpose of the gazebo is to enjoy the river. His client is trying to get the maximum benefit of the backyard. The gazebo would be five feet from the bluff line. In lieu of these arguments, he asked the commission to grant the request. Mr. Johnson asked the reason for wanting the gazebo in this particular location. If one cannot see the river, and other than the landscape problem, why place the structure there? The property appears to be developed to place something there and the gaze�o seems to be an afterthought. Mr. Hurley stated that, although you cannot see the river per se, you can see across the river to the other side. As far as any other placement on the site, there is a heavily wooded area; and with the existing walkways, it fits in nicely. Mr. Kuechle asked, if the commission denied the request, what kind of hardship would result. Mr. Hurley stated the hardship is the unique nature of the lot. The 100 foot setback would mean the gazebo would be next to the garage. Landscaping was done to accent the slope of the property. The hardship is the lay of the land and the existing nature of the landscaping. There is no other placement of the gazebo to have the aesthetic quality. Mr. Johnson asked if the petitioner has used up all 1400 square feet allowable for accessory buildings. Ms. Dacy stated the property included two accessory buildings totalling 1649 square feet. The property is considered to be one parcel on the tax rolls. MOTION by Mr. Johnson, seconded by Ms. Smith, to close the public hearing. � APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING. JIILY 10. 1990 PAGE 4 QPON A VOIC$ VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VZCB-CHAIRPERSON RIIECHLE DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE PIIBLZC HEARING CLOSED AT 8:05 P.M. Mr. Johnson asked if it would be possible to put the gazebo out with a non-permanent floor. How would it then be considered? Ms. Dacy stated the way the ordinance defines a structure and what was proposed led staff to believe that this gazebo is a permanent structure. It has a foundation, walls, floor, and roof. If you have a three season porch on a home, you would need a variance. There is a roof, walls, floor and foundation. She did not know how this could be made temporary. Mr. Hurley stated he did not think there was a foundation. Ms. Dacy stated the ordinance states that something that secures the structure to the ground is considered a foundation. Mr. Johnson stated he felt the owner has done a super job on the landscaping and takes a lot of pride in his property and home. He felt he could be assured the structure being put up will not be an eyesore, it will not be visible from the river, and judging from what has been done, it will be a quality job. Ms. Smith agreed. The structure will not be visible from the river. The area is fairly heavily wooded. If the gazebo was not placed there, it would be necessary to re-landscape the lot to put it in another area. She did not think the lot is conducive for another location. She did not know if it was designed that way. It appears to be the spot to put it. She asked if this was a flood plain. Ms. Dacy stated the elevation of this lot was outside the flood line. Mr. Kuechle stated the problem he had is that one of the rules the commission is under is that there must be a significant hardship imposed on the landowner. He felt it difficult seeing that this occurs here. It is true that this may be the optimum location and there would be expense incurred to modify landscaping. However, even without a gazebo, the owner has full use of the property and for that reason he would be inclined to recommend denial of the request. Mr. Johnson stated that the main purpose is to review hardship in respect to plans or requests. In that respect, he agreed that he did not see a hardship. MOTION by Mr. Johnson, seconded by Ms. Smith, to deny variance request, VAR #90-11, by Mr. Rasmussen to allow the construction of a screened gazebo on Lots 11 and 12, Block 5, Pearson's Craigway APPEALS COMMISSION M$ETING, JIILY 10. 1990 PAGE 5 Estates 2nd Addition, the same being 7806 Alden Way N.E., Fridley, Minnesota. �PON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYB, VICE-CHAIRPER80N RIIECHLE DECLARED THE MOTZON CARRIED IINANIMOIIBLY. Mr. Kuechle stated this item would go before the City Council for final review with the commission's recommendations on July 23. CONSIDERATION OF VARIANCE RE4UEST VAR #90-12. BY JAMES NICKLOW, SHOREWOOD INN RESTAURANT: Pursuant to Section 214.11.02.B of the Fridley City Code to increase the maximum allowable square footage of a sign from 80 square feet to 112 square feet, to allow a readerboard addition to an existing pylon sign, located on Part of Lot 16, Auditor's Subdivision #88, the same being 6161 Highway 65 N.E., Fridley, Minnesota, 55432. Ms. Dacy stated that the petitioner, Mr. Jim Nicklow of the Shorewood Inn Restaurant, is requesting a variance to increase the square footage of a free standing sign from 80 square feet to 112 square feet in order to add a readerboard, 3 feet by 8 feet, to the existing pylon sign. The parcel is zoned C-3, General Shopping, as are the parcels to the north and east. The code is very specific as to the criteria that need to be evaluated. Based on staff analysis of the criteria, the petitioner has the option of redesigning the existing sign to meet the criteria of 80 square feet or pursue additional wall signage. Denial of the variance request does not deny the petitioner from having additional signage. Staff recommends denial because the variance criteria are not met. MOTION by Dr. Vos, seconded by Mr. Johnson, to open the public hearing. IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, oICE-CHAIRPERSON RIIECHLE DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY AND THE PIIBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 8:15 P.M. Ms. Tauer attended the meeting to act as spokesperson for Mr. Nicklow. She stated the Shorewood Inn has been owned by the current owner for many years. In the last several ye�rs, the restaurant has been experiencing financial problems, due in part to the freeway construction which closed the ramps and City construction on the road. People are creatures of habit. When they cannot get to a place, they go elsewhere and do not come back. Ms. Tauer stated the restaurant has done remodeling, but business is still down. There is a lot of competition in the area. Sales are also normally low during the summer season. Economically, the readerboard would give the Shorewood a boost to expose the APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING, JIILY 10. 1990 PAGE 6 restaurant with little expense. This is the least expensive way to get a lot of exposure. A new sign would decrease the amount spent on newspaper advertising, and would expose people to what the restaurant has to offer. If a board were to be put on the building, it would be less visible. It would be difficult to read something on the building. If you are driving by, a sign can be easily read by the road. She felt the sign is well done and would not be a visual problem. The existing sign is good looking and was constructed by a professional sign company. The owner now has bids for a readerboard. It would be good looking and well maintained. The sign represents what is inside the building. It is needed to promote business and is a matter of survival. The restaurant needs help getting back on their feet. Mr. Johnson asked if the Shorewood owners had thought of changing the sign design to fit in the guidelines. Ms. Tauer stated they have talked to sign companies. This would require a great deal of money and the restaurant is not able to do that. A readerboard is less expensive. Dr. Vos stated that according to the staff report the restaurant could have additional wall signage on the north and west sides of the building as an allowable sign allotment. Mr. Kuechle stated they have two signs on the building. Ms. Tauer stated these signs simply say "Shorewood". Other signs would not be effective. Dr. Vos stated the readerboard on the pylon would be 24 square feet. On the west side of the building there is up to 85 square feet allowable and on the north up to 96 square feet. Ms. Tauer stated these cannot be seen from the road as clearly. They are currently using a banner because that is their only option right now. They have a permit to display the banner. Dr. Vos asked if Sears has a readerboard. Ms. Dacy stated yes, on the west side of the building. Dr. Vos felt people do look at the signs. He felt the Shorewood had an attractive sign and logo that identifies the Shorewood. While he can understand the argument, he thought the readerboard would detract rather than enhance the pylon. Ms. Tauer stated the thought the sign could be made very attractive. �PPEAL8 CO1rII�ISSION MBSTING. JIILY 10, 1990 PAGE 7 Ms. Smith stated she could see the reason to put it there. As it is, the type of sign brings to mind others that have letters missing and are poorly maintained. Ms. Tauer stated they are looking for something that looks professional. The purpose is to protray the Shorewood as a good place to come. Maintenance would not be a problem. OM TION by Dr. Vos, seconded by Mr. Johnson, to close the public hearing. QPON A VOICE VOTE, l�LL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPER80N KIIECHLE DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED AND THS PIIBLIC HEARING CLOBED AT 8:25 P.M. Ms. Smith stated she can see a hardship. She is aware of the area. The Shorewood has done a lot to support the community. The sign that is there is very aesthetic. She felt a reader sign would take away from what it looks like now. She did not think it would be distracting to the traffic any more than anything else in that area. Dr. Vos stated that, in looking at the four criteria used by staf f, and thinking of what would be exceptional and extraordinary circumstances, the Shorewood is visible across lake. Sears does not have a pylon. It seems that if you want to do something you can do something on the north and west walls. Ms. Smith stated there are some trees there that hide the view until one is right there. One would have to be right there in order to see a sign on the wall. The building sits back far enough to make it hard to be seen. Mr. Johnson stated another problem is the� stop sign at the shopping center intersection. If that is the only aternative, they may take that. From a safety side, this would be better. Mr. Kuechle agreed that of all the options this consideration would be one of the best. He would like to see the restaurant succeed because it is an asset to the city. However, he has a problem exceeding the 80 square feet because we get nwnerous similar requests. City Councilmember Schneider stated that this corner has turned into more of a problem than anticipated. The shopping center is not getting the business as hoped. He is a patron of the Shorewood and has observed that business is down. Improvements have spurred development. He asked if there was some other option that could be considered, even if it is something temporary. He feels there is a hardship here. Ms. Dacy raised a point regarding the fact that Shorewood has a reduced variance to what the shopping center �PPEALS COMMISSION MEETING. JIILY 10. 1990 PAGE 8 has. It seems there are extenuating circumstances that might warrant consideration. Dr. Vos asked if they could stipulate a length of time on a readerboard. Councilmember Schneider stated they could grant the variance a 3 to 5 year period and then subject to review. Ms. Dacy stated a special use permit is different by statute. The commission can put stipulations on sign variances. The City Council can put a time limit on how long a sign can be up at that location. The only caution is that "temporary" often turns into "permanent". It is sometimes better along with the stipulation to sign an agreement with the petitioner, so that if the sign is not down, the City will remove it and the cost will be assessed to the property. Dr. Vos stated that if the sign was temporary the owner could ask for extensions. What would be the reaction to the petitioner if we put a timeframe on the readerboard? Ms. Tauer stated it was better than nothing. She thought management would be agreeable if that is the only way it can be done. Dr. Vos asked if Ms. Tauer had any reaction to how you can get to the Shorewood. Ms. Tauer stated access is not a great problem right now. We do have something of a problem with getting in and out. Access was completely shut off for almost two years. Ms. Smith stated she felt better approving the sign with a stipulation for a specified number of years because the City could then see if the sign was maintained and looked nice. Dr. Vos stated he felt better about a time limit on a sign on a pylon than a large sign on the building. Mr. Kuechle asked if this was an option for the commission. Ms. Dacy stated the commission could do this. Dr. Vos asked what a reasonable timeframe would be. Mr. Kuechle felt three years. In that time, the owners should know in that time if it is helping. Dr. Vos agreed, stating that in five years the sign would be pretty much permanent. 0 � ' APPEALS COMMIBSION MEETING, JIILY 10. 1990_ PAGE 9 Mr. Johnson stated in five years they will know if they are going to make it. Dr. Vos asked, if you put a sign up, does it go with the business? Ms. Dacy stated yes, but you can specify the variance terminates with the business. She cautioned that this option should be used sparingly. Dr. Vos asked if it was worth putting on the stipulation regarding ownership. Ms. Smith felt it was. It is important. If the sign is not successful and they go out of business, you would not want someone else to come in and have the sign. OM TION by Dr. Vos, seconded by Ms. Smith, to recommend to the City Council approval of variance, VAR #90-12, by James Nicklow, Shorewood Inn Restaurant, to increase the'maximum allowable square footage of a sign from 80 square feet to 112 square feet, to allow a readerboard addition to an existing pylon sign, located on Part of Lot 16, Auditor's Subdivision #88, the same being 6161 Highway 65 N.E., Fridley, Minnesota, with the following stipulations: 1. The variance be reviewed after three years. 2. The variance terminates with ownership of that particular parcel. IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON RUECHLE DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY. Ms. Kuechle stated this item will go before the City Council on July 23 with the recommendations and stipulations as stated. ADJOURNMENT• MOTION by Mr. Johnson, seconded by Ms. Smith, to adjourn the meeting. IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON RIIECHLE DECLARED THE JIILY 10, 1990, APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING ADJOIIRNED AT 8:43 P.M. Respectfully submitted, i�! ,(r (/� 0'7v�J Gc� Lavonn Cooper /�'� Recording Secretary •:� �, ; , CITY OF FRIDLEY HOIISING & REDEVELOP�NT AUTHORITY M�$TING� �E 21, 1990 ..�....__�__.._..__�_��....��_�____»�_..»_..�_..�__.. CALL TO ORDER• Chairperson Commers called the June 21, 1990, Housing and Redevelopment Authority meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. ROLL CALL• Members Present: Larry Commers, Virginia Schnabel, Duane Prairie Members Absent: John Meyer, Walter Rasmussen Others Present: Jock Robertson, Executive Director of HRA Rick Pribyl, Finance Director Paul Hansen, Accountant Dave Newman, HRA Attorney Rosemarie Crampton, 5849 - 3rd Street N.E. Dawn Sader, 2421 - 95th Ave. N., Brooklyn Park APPROVAL OF MAY 10 1990 HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES• MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Prairie, to approve the May 10, 1990, Housing & Redevelopment Authority minutes as written. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON COl�II�RS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIIrIOIISLY. 1. CRAMPTON RE UEST FOR SECOND MORTGAGE LOSS MAKE-UP: Mr. Robertson stated Ms. Crampton is requesting that the HRA forgive the remaining $2,400 of the ten year second mortgage that the HRA has on her property at 5849 - 3rd Street N.E. Mrs. Crampton wishes to move to another school district in order that a special education teacher and aide can be provided for her disabled child. Mr. Robertson stated that when the house was completed in 1983, the market value of the property was appraised by the City at $64,200. Ms. Crampton has a purchase agreement for $74,000. Staff is recommending that there be no forgiveness unless it can be demonstrated that Ms. Crampton received a loss upon the sale of the property. Mr. Commers stated that staff has informed him that the Crampton's had made significant improvements on the property. � � HOIISING AND REDEVELOPMENT AiJTHORITY MTG JUNE 21, 1990 PAGE 2 Ms. Crampton stated they have added a garage, front entry way, and a family room in the basement at a total cost of $12,000. Mr. Robertson stated staff can check the assessing records and see what the market value is right now and what the difference is. If it turns out that there would be a loss on the sale, staff can negotiate the agreement to the extent of what is outstanding. The HRA might want to consider forgiving that part that would make up any loss. Mr. Robertson stated that with negotiate a final settlement and next meeting. the HRA's permission, staff can report back to the HRA at their Mr. Prairie stated he was comfortable with staff proceeding. Ms. Schnabel asked if there is any way of verifying that the improvements have been made to the property. Mr. Robertson stated staff can verify with the Assessing Department that the improvements have been made. Ms. Schnabel stated she would feel more comfortable with that type of information. MOTION by Mr. Prairie, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, to authorize staff to negotiate a second mortgage loss makeup with Ms. Crampton after verification of improvements to the property, to be resolved before the July HRA meeting. Mr. Newman asked if it was the HRA's understanding that staff would have the authority to negotiate forgiveness of part or all of the outstanding balance of the mortgage. Mr. Commers stated, yes, that is the HRA's intent. IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON COI�Il�IERS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOUSLY. 2. EXTENSION OF HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENT WITH WOODBRIDGE: Mr. Robertson stated Woodbridge has requested that the hold harmless agreement that was agreed upon in December 1989 be extended for another six months until December 31, 1990. This allows the redeveloper or a potential purchaser to enter onto the Lake Pointe property for the purpose of conducting normal surveys, tests, and investigations for the potential benefit of purchasers of that land. He stated there is no change in the wording of the agreement. HOIISING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MTG., JUNE 21. 1990 PAGE 3 OM TION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Prairie, to extend the Hold Harmless Agreement with Woodbridge Investment Company for an additional six month until December 31, 1990. IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON COl�II�RS DECLARED THE IYIOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY. 3. ELECTRICITY BILLINGS FOR LAKE POINTE: Mr. Robertson stated this is in answer to the concern expressed by the HRA at the May meeting about the HRA paying for electricity at Lake Pointe. After a review with the City Manager, staff agreed to recommend that the HRA pay the $7.06 bill for the sprinkler control box because it is part of the temporary maintenance system for which the HRA has already assumed responsibility. Staff also agreed that since the City pays for street lighting elsewhere in the City, they would recommend to the City Council that the City pay the $107.91 street lighting bill. Mr. Commers asked if it is the same situation for the lighting at Moore Lake Commons. Mr. Pribyl stated he believed the City is paying for the street lighting at Moore Lake Commons also. 4. AGREEMENT TO REFUND TIF SCHOOL REFERENDUM LEVIES TO SCHOOL DISTRICTS• Mr. Pribyl stated that in following what he perceived to be the HRA's direction previously, Jim O'Meara of Briggs and Morgan Law Office was contacted to once again develop a two year agreement. They are already half way into the year 1990 so the second half of this is the 1991 portion. He has been in contact with Jerry Seeman of School District #14 a number of times, and they have been pressing very hard to come up with a number for the 1991 funding process. This will commit the City to return increment for 1990 and 1991. There were some changes made in the tax increment legislation that now puts School District #16 into the return also, and the dollar amount is beginning to climb. The total return for 1990 for all school districts is calculated at $261,798.81. They estimate the total return for 1991 to be the same, if not more, than $261,798.81; and this amount will continue to increase each year. Mr. Pribyl stated the HRA should be receiving their first half settlement sometime towards the middle of next month. Staff will probably split this amount in half for each school district. Then, on the second half, staff will do a complete analysis of properties within those districts to determine which ones have actually been delinquent and then subtract those delinquent applicable portions from the last half. � HOIISING AND REDEVELOPi�NT AUTFIORITY MTG.. JIINE 21. 1990 PAGE 4 Mr. Prairie stated that in their previous discussions, it was his understanding that it was a one year agreement that covered two years, but the HRA had to renew it every year. Mr. Commers stated staff should check into the past documentation. If the HRA is committed to the school districts for 1990, they should address that, but as far as another for another two years, he is not sure that is right. By voting on this, they should not be committed for 1992. Mr. Pribyl stated they would just be committed to 1991. He stated the original agreement provided for a payment in 1988 and 1989. Mr. Prairie stated that in order to figure this into the school district's budgeting process, the HRA should have been discussing this in December or January. Mr. Pribyl District #14 budget year. stated that in the original discussions, School wanted to be able to have some idea of their next Mr. Commers stated that at that time, there was not the idea that this would be going on indefinitely. He could understand that the school districts should know so they can figure how to budget, but the HRA should do this before the school districts adopt their annual budgets. Mr. Pribyl stated that ideally, they should have done the 1988 and 1989 payments and then, shortly after that, gone to the 1990 extension. However, staff did not have the manpower to do that at that time. They can cut the agreement period down to just 1990. Mr. Commers stated that realistically they can't do much about it now as the school district is relying on this payment now. But, they should get ahead of it next year. Mr. Pribyl stated it is his understanding School District #14 is working on its 1991 budget right now. Mr. Newman stated that to address the school district budget for the fiscal year beginning in July, the HRA should be ready to address this in January of that year. Mr. Commers stated that since the school district is almost done with its budget for the 1990 fiscal year, in all fairness the HRA should approve the payment for 1990. The school districts should be cautioned that from now on, the HRA wants to address this process prior to the budgetary process. They should then review HOIISING AND REDEVEIAPMENT AUTHORITY M`I'G JIINE 21 1990 PAGE 5 the past discussion and documentation and put this on the agenda for discussion at the end of 1990. Mr. Pribyl stated there apparently has been some misunderstanding about how this process was supposed to take place, and they never got keyed into the budgetary process for the school districts. MOTION by Mr. Commers, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, to approve the school district referendum levy returns for 1989, payable 1990, and that this matter be put on the December 1990 HRA agenda for consideration of the 1991 referendum levy returns. IIPON A VOICE VOTE, CO1�II+iEItS AND SCI�IABEL VOTING AYE, PRAIRIE ABSTAINING, CHAIRPERSON COI�II�IERS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED. 5. ESTIMATES• MOTION by Ms. Schnabel, seconded by Mr. Prairie, to approve the following estimates: Natural Green, Inc. -$923.48 for labor and miscellaneous parts to repair the� temporary irrigation system at Lake Pointe. Talberg Lawn & Landscape Service -$9,385.72 for maintenance services on the landscaping at Lake Pointe May 15 - June 15, 1990. W. B. Miller, Inc. -$1,850.00 for the relocation of driveway for the Flaten property on 5755 Central Avenue N.E. Access Control Technologies -$10,973.00 for the completion of ramp security installation. IIPON A VOICE VOTE, AI�, VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON COI�II�tERS DECI�ARED Ti� MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY. 6. CLAIMS (2018-2026): MOTION by Mr. Prairie, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, to approve the check register dated June 21, 1990. IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON COl�IIKERS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY. 7. UPDATE ON MANAGEMENT CONTRACT FOR RICE PLAZA SHOPPING CENTER• Mr. Robertson stated that at the last meeting when the HRA approved the purchase agreement, they also directed staff to get an environmental assessment audit. Staff solicited bids from four companies and awarded the bid to Institute for Environmental HOIISING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTAORITY M'I'G.. JIINE 21. 1990 PAGE 6 Assessment based on the most complete description of services and because they seemed to be the most responsive to the HRA's request. He stated the Institute for Environmental Assessment plans to have the work completed by Friday, June 14, and a report prepared for staff by Thursday, June 20, 1990. Mr. Robertson stated there seemed to be no unusual environmental problems, only the ones which staff was aware of before--asbestos material in the facia of the building. Staff is trying to locate records for one other soil test that Mr. Lundgren had done. Mr. Robertson stated that staff is soliciting proposals for the management and leasing agents for the property. They plan to review at least three proposals and references and bring a recommendation to the HRA at their July meeting. 12.. STATUS OF PROPOSED LEASE SECURITY FOR PAPPY'S FOODS: Mr. Robertson stated Keith Warner of Pappy's Foods is still working on the financial plan for the lease of equipment and the proposed project in the old Service America building at Central Avenue and Fireside Drive.� In the meantime, Steiner Development has forwarded an acceptable letter of intent to purchase the Service America building and has apparently reached a tentative agreement to lease the building back to Pappy's Foods. Mr. Robertson stated Steiner Development is also negotiating with Service America to build a smaller 10,000 sq. ft. building in the rear portion of the lot and lease it back to the Service America. The agreement has not been reached on this component of the proposal. The HRA may wish to consider setting up a TIF district to capture the increment from this additional building in the near future; however, for such a small building, it may not be cost effective. Mr. Robertson stated he had included a schedule received from Jim Casserly for enlarging the redevelopment project area so that the IiRA can consider providing equipment lease security for Pappy's Foods at the July or August HRA meeting. Mr. Prairie asked if there was any history of any other HRA's doing a similar thing--providing assistance for the lease of equipment. Mr. Robertson stated he did not believe so, but he could do some research and see if there are any. Staff has researched the legality of it, and there is no question but that it is legal. Mr. Prairie stated other HRA's have done some things that were legal, but they received a lot of flack for doing them, whether right or wrong. HOIISING AND REDEVELOPMENT ADTHORITY M'I'G JUNE 21. 1990 PAGE 7 1 Mr. Commers stated there seemed no harm in having staff make some inquiries regarding what other HRA's have done. 13. OTHER BUSINESS: a. Proposed Fridley Auto Mall Mr. Robertson stated the Auto Mall is proposed to be located in the northern part of the Onan tax increment district created last year. It is the vacant mobile home sales lot northeast of the Rapid Oil Station. It includes a 26,000 sq. ft. auto service mall and a 4,000 sq. ft. restaurant. Mr. Robertson stated it is staff's intention, while revising the Comprehensive Plan this year, to recommend that Highway 65 be the preferred location for more extensive type retail commercial activities that require an auto trip from establishment to establishment like auto sales, lumber yards, etc. The City has already made a commitment for University Avenue to be more intensive type of commercial, offices and retail strip centers which are characterized by a pedestrian being able to make a trip from establishment to establishment without the need for a car. To that extent, this auto mall would be consistent with the Comprehensive Plan recommendations still in process. - Mr. Robertson stated that, on the other hand, are they getting into the situation where every time there is a new development, the developer comes in and asks for tax increment assistance. In this situation, if this land has been owned by the same owners for many years, what is the assistance for? It is not land assembly and it can certainly not be for a land writedown. It is conceivable that one of the stipulations could be that part of the overall deal would be to extend the frontage road where it stops on the south end of the mobile home park through the front tier of mobile, connecting with the Fireside Drive. The developers, Mr. Noyes and Mr. Schroeder, have informed staff that the extension of the road would be very important to the success of their operation; and they have been directed to approach the owners of the mobile home park about purchasing land for that frontage road extension. It is conceivable that could be the justification for tax increment financing assistance. Mr. Robertson stated the City Manager will also be discussing this with City Council. Staff thought it was important to inform the HRA of this proposal and to ask for any policy direction the HRA might have at this time or during the following month. Mr. Prairie stated he has had about ten people ask him if the HRA is ever going to stop building strip malls. Ms. Schnabel stated it does seem like every time there is a new development, someone comes to the HRA asking for assistance. She G � t HOIISING AND REDEVELOPZiENT AUTHORITY MTG.. JIINE 21,_1990 PAGE 8� • is sometimes bothered by the fact that not everything the HRA does is redevelopment in the purest sense. There is a lot that is assistance that is not redevelopment. Yet, she did feel quite justified with the assistance they have provided. Mr. Commers stated that in terms of development, there are two different districts: (1) economic development district and (2) redevelopment district. The bigger problems come when they get to the funding side of it, and they have been funding most of these through tax increment financing. But, everything doesn't have to be redevelopment. The HRA has discussed doing some of the neighborhood-type things they used to do such as the large family home ownership program. There might be some very identifiable projects of that nature that might be worth looking at. Ms. Schnabel stated she has been interested in Habitat for Humanity, and that concept is excellent where they provide assistance, but the people pay back that assistance. It would be nice for the HRA to set up a system like that where they could rehabilitate or create something, using HRA monies, yet getting it paid back. b. Resignation of Dave Newman, HRA Attorney Mr. Commers stated that the HRA certainly appreciated all Mr. Newman's efforts on behalf of the HRA, particularly the extra time Mr. Newman has spent with them. The HRA wished him the best of luck in his new endeavors. Mr. Newman stated Mr. Herrick will be taking his place as HRA attorney. Mr. Newman will be available in Mr. Herrick's absence or for projects he has had experience with. ADJOURNMENT• MOTION by Mr. Prairie, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, to adjourn the meeting. IIpon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Commers declared the June 21, 1990, Housing and Redevelopment Authority meeting adjourned at 8:30 p.m. Res ectfully subm'tted, L n aba Recording Secretary