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CITY OF FRIDLEY
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CALL TO ORDER•
Chairperson Betzold called the February 14, 1990, Planning
Commission meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL•
Members Present: Don Betzold, Dean Saba, Sue Sherek, Alex Barna,
Paul Dahlberg
Members Absent: Dave Kondrick
Others Present: Barbara Dacy, Planning Coordinator
APPROVAL OF JANUARY 31. 1990. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by Mr. Dahlberg, to approve the
January 31, 1990, Planning Commission minutes.
^ Mr. Betzold stated that on page 5, last paragraph, 7th line, the
word "everything" should be changed to "anything to him that".
OPON A VOICE VOTE � ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPER80N HETZOLD DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY AND THE MINIITES APPROVED AS AMENDED.
1. 1990 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROPOSAL:
Ms. Dacy stated the proposed 1990 allocation is $104,291. Staff
proposes that $70,000 be committed to the Riverview Heights
project, and $33,291 be committed to Human Services. Anoka County
requires $1,000 be allocated for its administrative services.
Staff is recommending the Planning Commission approve the 1990 CDBG
funding request. The distribution will allow the City to continue
to acquire properties in the Riverview Heights Floodplain and
provide year-to-year continuity in the level of funding to the
Human Service activities.
Mr. Saba asked if it is realistic to still call the Riverview
Heights area a floodplain district. The reason he is questioning
it is because of the controls at the Coon Rapids Dam and on the
Mississippi River.
Ms. Dacy stated that as long as it is designated as a floodplain
on the flood insurance rate maps and based on the elevations, they
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still must maintain it as a floodplain district. It is all in Zone
A.
Ms. Sherek stated that it might be a good idea to seek a new map
from the Corp of Engineers for flood plain designation. She stated
Mr. Saba is right in that there is more flood control at the Coon
Rapids Dam.
Mr. Barna stated that at some point after the house on parcel #6
is removed, he would like to see some type of hard surface parking
area put in because the existing parking area is mud. There is a
need for a parking area.
Ms. Dacy stated Michele McPherson has been doing a park plan for
this area for her college thesis. She stated she would pass this
suggestion on to Ms. McPherson to see if she can incorporate that
into her plan. The Riverview Heights Park plan will be reviewed
by the Parks and Recreation Commission, the Planning Commission,
and the City Council.
Ms. Dacy stated that the house on parcel #6 is being acquired now
with last year's grant money. The estimated value to acquire the
house on parcel #5 is about $97,000 which does not include
relocation expenses. Parcel #4 will be about the same amount of
^ money.
Mr. Barna stated he would recommend that the house on parcel #4 not
be acquired. It is a newer house. It is slightly above the
elevation of parcels #5 and #6 and not as critical to the access
to the park.
Ms. Dacy stated that is something they can consider.
Mr. Dahlberg stated it would depend on what the Parks and
Recreation Commission wants to do with parcel #4. If they feel
parcel #4 will not necessarily impact the park, then maybe they are
willing to let that residence remain. If he owned that house, he
would not mind being the only residence next to a park; and he did
not think the o�aner of that parcel would be opposed to remaining,
even though they are aware of the acquisition process. This should
be discussed with the homeowner also.
Mr. Saba agreed with Mr. Dahlberg that the Parks and Recreation
Commission should be made aware of this suggestion to not acquire
parcel #4 and see how it impacts their planning for the park.
Maybe the Planning Commission can discuss this again at a future
meeting.
MOTION by Ms. Sherek, seconded by Mr. Saba, to recommend to City
^ Council approval of the 1990 CDBG funding request in the amount of
$104,291 ($70,000 - Riverview Heights project; $33,291 - Human
Services; $1,000 - Anoka County administrative services).
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IIPON A VOICE VOTE � ALL VOTING AYE, CBAIRPER80N HETZOLD DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY.
2. APPROVAL OF RESOLUTIOIJ OF THE FRIDLEY PLANNING COMMISSION
FIPTDING THE MODIFICATION OF REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT NO. 1 AND
TAX INCREMENT FINANCING DISTRICTS NO. 1 THROUGH 9 AND THE
APPROVAL AND ADOPTION OF THE MODIFIED REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AND
MODIFIED TAX INCREMENT FINANCING PLAN RELATING THERETO; AND
THE ESTABLISI�IENT OF PROPOSED TAX INCREMENT FINANCING DISTRICT
NO. 10 AND THE APPROVAL AND ADOPTIOAT OF THE PROPOSED TAX
INCREMENT FINANCING PLAN RELATING THERETO TO BE CONSISTENT
WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF THE CITY:
Ms. Dacy stated that at the last meeting, staff thought they would
be creating tax increment districts for two parcels--Northco and
Pro Engineering. Pro Engineering could not consummate a purchase
agreement with Serve America. The state law for creating a tax
increment district requires that the Planning Commission pass a
resolution stating that the proposed project is consistent with
the Comprehensive Plan. The Comprehensive Plan identifies this
parcel as commercial. The petitioner will soon be submitting an
application to rezone this parcel to C-2, General Business
District.
^ MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Mr. Dahlberg, to approve Resolution
No. - 1990, "Resolution of the Fridley Planning Commission
Finding the Modification of Redevelopment Project No. 1 and Tax
Increment Financing Districts No. 1 through PTo. 9 and the Approval
and Adoption of the Modified Redevelopment Plan and Modified Tax
Increment Financing Plan Relating Thereto; and the Establishment
of Proposed Tax Increment Financing District No. 10 and the
Approval and Adoption of the Proposed Tax Increment Financing Plan
Relating Thereto to be Consistent with the Comprehensive Plan of
the City."
IIPON A VOICE VOTE � ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON HETZOLD DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIIBLY.
3. LIGHT RAIL TRANSIT ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WORKSHEET AND
DRAFT SCOPING DECISION DOCiJMENT:
Ms. Dacy stated the memo dated February 7, 1990, went to the City
Council on February 12 as an information item. The City Council
members were instructed to give staff a call prior to the deadline
for submitting comments on the EAW by Wednesday, February 21.
Mr. Dahlberg referred to page 2 of the memo, last item under Item
A: "Acquisition of park and ride station sites on existing urban
economic development and tax increment financing commitments". He
n did not see that as a completed statement.
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Mr. Dahlberg stated he would like the statement amended as follows:
"The EIS will address the adverse economic implications of
acquisition of property for park and ride sites on existing urban
economic development and tax increment financing commitments."
Mr. Dahlberg stated that the statement made by staff for page 14,
item 1.6 (page 2 of inemo), was very nicely stated.
Nir. Dahlberg stated that under the "Summary", item 4(page 3 of
memo), he would like it amended as follows: "Economic impact and
relationship to the City's redevelopment plan, i.e., loss of land
for development/redevelo�ment and/or taken from tax rolls".
Mr. Dahlberg stated he would like a little more discussion on page
14 of the Draft Scoping Decision, second bullet, last sentence
which says: "In addition, in the adopted comprehensive LRT system
plans for Anoka and Hennepin County, guidelines were established
that call for each planning jurisdictions of municipalities to
revise its comprehensive plans to reflect the adopted LRT
systems..." He stated they are being told that this is going to
happen and that the municipalities now have to revise their
comprehensive plans to make it fit. What are the implications from
that statement on the process the City has been going through
relative to revising the Comprehensive Plan?
Ms. Dacy stated
"Transportation
issue since it i
metro area.
that when the Planning Commission reviews the
Chapter", the City will need to address the LRT
s an adopted regional policy to pursue LRT in the
Mr. Dahlberg stated that potentially the Comprehensive Plan can
have a significant impact on any proposal that is made. For
example, the City of Fridley might want to stipulate that in order
for LRT go through Fridley, the City would require certain
landscaping be done, maybe additional right-of-way be included.
Maybe the City will decide they want a buffer between the frontage
road the tracks. The City should be able to make recommendations
to the County Rail Authority that in order to go through the City
of Fridley, the City would like to make some minimum requirements
relative to landscape treatments, buffers, etc., things that the
City believes should be a part of the proposed plan for the system.
Mr. Saba stated he agreed. The City has to take a position now.
If they don't take that position in the Comprehensive Plan, then
they will not have a leg to stand on. He disagreed that the
Regional Plan overrules the local Comprehensive Plan. It was his
understanding that the local comprehensive plan is a governing
document. If the regional plan can take precedent over the local
plan, then where it does it stop?
Ms. Dacy stated the law has been changed to give the Regional
Transit Board more power and strength to oversee the LRT process.
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The City can try and set some minimum standards in the Compre-
hensive Plan. Another issue that is going to be critical is that
the LRT planning process may precede the comprehensive plan
planning process. So, the LRT planning process could be the only
time they have the opportunity for input.
Mr. Dahlberg stated they are talking about the visual concept in
saying that the City would like to make some recommendations for
minimum requirements along the LRT line. Their statement about
visual impacts is: "EIS will address visual impacts of Stage 1,
and it will include an overview of future landscaping and street
scaping concepts throughout the system." They will have what they
deem to be their minimum requirements. However, it should be
looked at, like any code or ordinance, that those are minimum
requirements. The Uniform Building Code has minimum requirements;
the State of Minnesota Building Code has maybe more stringent
requirements; then the City or municipality also has the
opportunity to impose more stringent code requirements if they deem
them to be appropriate. In this case, he thought if the City sets
minimum standards and it turns out the EIS' minimum standards
exceed the City's, so be it. But, the City should make
recommendations at least for some minimum standards, and he did not
think that is addressed in the EIS.
� Ms. Dacy asked if the Commission wanted this bullet deleted from
the issues that the EIS will not address, because they want it
addressed.
Mr. Dahlberg stated, yes, it should be addressed in some shape or
form. Maybe staff can discuss this to see how it should best be
handled.
Mr. Barna stated the EIS should be forced to look at the City's
comprehensive plan, especially the development plans for the
southeast corner of 73rd and University Avenue.
Mr. Dahlberg stated he also felt strongly that the issue of
pedestrian traffic across University Avenue and the rail line
should be addressed in the EIS . How is a handicapped person or
elderly person going to get across the rail line on University
Avenue. They are being told that the timing of the lights at the
intersection will not change. A person cannot get across
University Avenue now and with an additional 35 ft. of right-of-
way, a person will not be able to cross at this intersection.
Mr. Betzold stated the fallacy also is that right now all there is
now is a bus stop, and it isn't used that much. Now they are
talking about an LRT line which will encourage more people to try
to get across.
^ Mr. Dahlberg stated the EIS should not only address the impact, but
it should also include in any proposed plans, pedestrian bridges
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over University Avenue, specifically at Mississippi Street,
potentially at Osborne Road, and possibly at 57th Avenue. The City
should not have to pay for these pedestrian bridges. The LRT is
compounding the problem of pedestrian traffic across that major
thoroughfare, and it is a major issue that should be included in
any future plans and paid for by the LRT system.
Ms. Sherek stated another point is that west of University Avenue
at Osborne, it is all industrial. As soon as the LRT goes through,
any vacant property will develop.
4. 1989 WORKPLAN EVALUATION AND ESTABLISH 1990 WORKPLAN:
Ms. Dacy stated this was postponed until more Planning Commission
members could be present. She would like the Commission members
to do an evaluation of the major issues the Commission discussed
in 1989 and discuss items for 1990.•
Mr. Betzold stated he has spoken to the Mayor Nee, and it might be
helpful to have a joint meeting with the City Council on the Sign
Ordinance.
Mr. Barna stated there should have been better communication
between the City Council and Planning Commission regarding the
Central Avenue Corridor.
Mr. Saba agreed and stated there probably should have been a joint
meeting at the very beginning of their discussions.
Mr. Dahlberg stated the Comprehensive Plan is probably the major
issues the Commission will be discussing in 1990, other than
dealing with proposed development plans throughout the year. They
should have a joint meeting with the City Council to just address
the Comprehensive Plan in order for the Commission to get a good
understanding and working knowledge of the Comprehensive Plan,
what they perceive their goal to be for the Comprehensive Plan, and
to understand the Council's concerns and desires relative to how
the Planning Commission addresses the Comprehensive Plan.
Mr. Betzold reviewed the list of issues considered by the Planning
Commission in 1989:
1.
2.
Comprehensive Plan - They do need to meet with the City
Council.
Light Rail Transit Issues - They have done an excellent
job with the little area they had to work with. They
don't have the ability to make a big impact.
n 3. Zoning Ordinance Amendments - They have had some
discussions, but these discussions have been kind of
haphazard.
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4. Osborne Crossings - This is now a dead issue. They did
have a good discussion with the petitioner; however, the
Commission might have handled the discussions a little
better.
Mr. Saba stated it might have been better to have had
Council input in the beginning.
Ms . Sherek stated that maybe when there is no opportunity
for joint meetings on various issues, the Commission
should invite the Councilmembers to attend the meetings.
Mr. Dahlberg stated he has attended Council meetings; and
when there is a specific issue that deals with a specific
issue that the Commissioner represents, the Council will
acknowledge that publicly and encourage the public to
speak to the Commissioner. He stated it is interesting
how the Planning Commission takes the initiative to be
involved in what the Council is doing, and maybe the
Council will also take the initiative to be involved in
what the Planning Commission is doing. Granted, the
Council's commitments to meetings and times is much
greater than the Commission's and it sometimes more
^ difficult for them to attend more meetings; but it is a
two-way street and maybe they can achieve some balance.
4. Central Avenue Corridor Study - discussed earlier
5. 1989-90 CDBG Funds - The Human Resources Commission does
the most work on this.
6. Combination of the Environmental Quality and Energy
Commission
Mr. Dahlberg stated he still had a concern about how the Osborne
Crossings project was handled. He wondered if there is some
evaluation the Planning Commission can go through to say, did they
react adversely to a petitioner to the extent that they left a bad
taste in the petitioner's mouth.
Mr. Barna stated he did not think that was the case. Maybe they
need a better way to look at a project and the seriousness of a
developer.
Mr. Dahlberg asked if there was something the Commission can learn
from that particular project that will help them in reviewing
future projects.
� Ms. Sherek stated the lesson to be learned here is that whenever
a development seems too much for the property, the Commission
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should be adamant about insisting that the developer scale the
project down to a reasonable level.
Ms. Sherek stated that the Planning Commission should think about
the fact that if they set up a land use that is marginal to over-
utilization of a piece of land, right in the beginning where they
have the controls, it is only going to get worse. There is so
little land to be developed in the City of Fridley. It is nice to
get land developed and on the tax rolls, but they do not have to
develop it by putting in projects that are going to be problems 20-
30 years from now.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION by Mr. Dahlberg, seconded by Mr. Barna, to adjourn the
meeting. IIpon a voice vote, all votinq aye, Chairperson Betzold
declared the February 14, 1990� Planninq Commission meetinq
adjourned at 9:00 p.m.
Res ctfully sub itted,
Lyn Saba
^ Recording Secretary
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