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CALL TO ORDER•
Chairperson Betzold called the March 25, 1992, Planning Commission
meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL•
Members Present:
Members Absent:
Don Betzold,
Sue Sherek,
Brad Sielaff
None
Dave Kondrick, Dean Saba,
Diane Savage, Connie Modig,
Others Present: Barbara Dacy, Community Development Director
Michele McPherson, Planning Assistant
Ron Bollinger, `1FW #363
Henry Berg, VFW #363
Jim Hollom, VFW #363
Ron Saba, VFW #363
Walter & Carolyn Klus, 7899 East River Road
Steven Hardel, 1010 Osborne Road
APPROVAL OF FEBRUARY 26. 1992 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES•
MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Ms. Sherek, to approve the
February 26, 1992, Planning Commission minutes as written.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOII3LY.
1. CONSIDERATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT P S #92-01 BY FRIDLEY
VFW POST #363, VFW ADDITION: To replat that part of the East
46 acres of the West 1/2 of the Northwest 1/4 of Section 12,
Township 30 North, Range 24 West, Anoka County, Minnesota,
described as follows:
Commencing at a point on the North line thereof distant
10 rods East of the Northwest corner thereof; thence
South parallel with the West line of said East 46 acres,
a distance of 264.00 feet; thence West parallel with the
North line of said Northwest 1/4 to the West line of said
East 46 acre tract; thence South along the West line
thereof 359.5 feet; thence East parallel with the North
line thereof, a distance of 538.73 feet, more or less,
to the Westerly right-of-way line of State Trunk Highway
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65, so called as the same is now laid out and
constructed; thence Northwesterly along said Westerly
right-of-way line to the North line of said West 1/2 of
the Northwest 1/4; thence West along the North line
thereof to the point of beginning, subject to the rights
of the public over the North 33.0 feet thereof for road
purposes, except Lots 1, 2, 3, and Outlot 1, in Block 1,
Lampert's Addition to the City of Fridley, and Lots 2,
3, and Outlot 1, Block 1, Lampert's Addition to the City
of Fridley.
Generally located at 1040 Osborne Road N.E.
2. CONSIDERATION OF A REZONING, ZOA #92-01 BY FRIDLEY VFW POST
363: To rezone Lot 1, Block 1, VFW Addition, from M-1, Light
Industrial, to C-2, General Business, generally located at
1040 Osborne Road N.E.
MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Ms. Sherek, to waive the
reading of the public hearing notices and open the public hearing.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERBON BETZOLD DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRITsD AND THE PIIBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 7:32 P.M.
� Ms. McPherson stated the subject parcel for both the plat request
and the rezoning request is located south of Osborne Road and west
of Highway 65. The parcel includes the old Lampert Lumber site and
the VFW property. The property is currently zoned M-1, Light
Industrial. There is C-2, General Business zoning, to the east and
west, and additional M-1, Light Industrial zoning, to the west and
south.
Preliminary Plat
Ms. McPherson stated the VFW currently owns the entire subject
property and is proposing to plat the property into two portions.
One portion is for the VFW which will contain an e�anding parking
area and the other portion which will be sold to Division 7, a
roofing and waterproofing contractor. In addition to the plat
request, the VFW is requesting a rezoning of its remaining parcel
from M-1, Light Industrial, to C-2, General Business.
Ms. McPherson stated variances have been requested by the VFW for
its parcel. The variance request was heard by the Appeals
Commission on March 10, 1992. Variances will also be requested by
Division 7 for their parcel which will be heard by the Appeals
�Commission on April 7, 1992. The variance request by the VFW
included a reduction in the setback from an existing condition,
the reduction in the width of a parking stall, and the reduction
of a two-way driving aisle. The Appeals Commission recommended
�� approval of the request to correct the existing condition, but
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recommended denial of the other two requests which are related to
the proposed parking lot expansion.
Ms. McPherson stated several issues need to be evaluated prior to
recommending approval or denial of the preliminary plat. These
include whether or not the property can meet the ordinance require-
ments in relation to drainage, traffic, and zoning.
Drainaqe
Ms. McPherson stated the City has experienced drainage problems in
this area in the past. There is an opportunity with the
preliminary plat request and the parking lot expansion to, if not
correct the drainage problems, aid in improving the drainage
situation. The preliminary drainage plan shows that the site has
been split in a north/south direction into two basic watersheds.
Water will flow in an easterly or westerly direction. If it flows
in an easterly direction, the water will flow across the parking
lot through the driveway openings, across the service road, into
the ditch where it will flow south to Rice Creek. Water flowing
westerly will pool and collect in the proposed landscape plan where
it will either soak into the ground or, if it reaches a certain
elevation, will flow easterly or top the curb and cross the
Division 7 property and flow south to the vacant property north of
,..,, the trailer court and west of 7570 Highway 65. This is basically
the way the drainage flows now, so there is no substantial change
in the drainage pattern once the improvements are completed.
However, there is a slight improvement in the fact that water will
be held on site in the detention area. The City Engineering
Department has calculated that there should be less water flowing
from the site. However, as required by the ordinance, the water
flow cannot exceed what leaves the site at this time. The
Engineering Department feels this is an improved drainage situation
from what exists.
Ms. McPherson stated there is one amendment to the proposed plan.
Currently there is no concrete curb along the south parking area
next to the landscaped area. The Engineering Department has
recommended a 6 inch curb and gutter with a 4 foot opening which
would be rip-rapped to prevent erosion.
Ms. McPherson stated there is an existing 8 inch sanitary sewer
which runs along the north property line of the expanded parking
area. The City has a 30 foot utility easement in this area;
however, it is not adequate on the south side of the existing sewer
line. The Engineering Department has requested a 10 foot easement
along this area.
Traffic
Ms. McPherson stated there will be no change in traffic pattern.
Traffic will continue to access the VFW site from Osborne Road and
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travel along the west side of the building and into the expanded
parking areas. The petitioners have submitted a new site plan
which meets the driveway width requirement and parking width
requireme�ts so there should be room for maneuverability of
vehicles in the proposed parking area.
Zoninq
Ms. McPherson stated that with the exception of the variances, both
parcels can meet the minimum lot area and lot width requirements.
There is a Building Code issue with the existing Lampert Lumber
site. Due to the nature of the construction of the building and
its sprinklered status, an open space easement of 14 feet will need
to be granted by VFW to Division 7.
Ms. McPherson stated a preliminary landscape plan has been proposed
and submitted by Division 7 for the Lampert Lumber site and final
landscaping plans should be approved by staff prior to issuing a
building permit.
Division 7
Ms. McPherson stated Division 7 is a roofing and waterproofing
company. Currently, they have offices in Savage and Burnsville.
� The existing Lampert Lumber building will be used by Division 7 as
office spaces for their architectural division and also to store
their fleet vehicles. Division 7 also plans to use the existing
cold storage buildings for additional storage; however, as a
portion of the site along the west is currently not paved, any
vehicular use in this area should not be permitted until a paving
plan has been submitted and hard surface installed in this area.
In 2-3 years, Division 7 plans to redo the existing fencing on the
property and make other general improvements on the site.
Recommendation
Ms. McPherson stated staff is recommending that the Planning
Commission recommend approval of the preliminary plat request with
seven stipulations:
1. Variance requests for VFW and Division 7 shall be
approved.
2. The final drainage plan shall be approved by the
Engineering Department prior to issuance of a building
permit. The final plan shall include curbing with a four
foot rip-rapped opening between the parking and
landscaped areas.
,,� 3. The landscaping plan, including underground irrigation,
' shall be approved by staff prior to issuance of a
building permit.
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4. The 14 foot open space easement shall be recorded against
the Lot 1, Block 1, VFW Addition, and a copy shall be
submitted to the City for its files.
5. Rezoning request, ZOA #92-01, shall be approved.
6. A ten foot utility easement for a distance of 165 feet
along the north property line of the expanded parking
area shall be granted to the City.
7. A paving plan shall be submitted to the City prior to
the use of the existing gravel area by vehicles on the
Division 7 property.
Rezonina
Ms. McPherson stated the rezoning request is by the VFW to rezone
the proposed Lot 1, Block 1, VFW Addition, from M-1, Light
Industrial, to C-2, General Business. This only affects the VFW
portion of the plat. The existing VFW building was constructed in
1964. At that time, assembly uses were permitted in the M-1 zoning
district. Since that time, the Zoning Code has been amended to
eliminate assembly uses in the industrial district. At this time,
,� the VFW is a nonconforming use in the district.
Ms. McPherson stated that rezoning requests are evaluated on three
criteria: district use, da�strict intent, and whether or not the
parcel meets the district requirements. Rezoning the property from
M-1 to C-2 will bring the existing use into conformance with the
Zoning Code. There is currently C-2 district zoning on both the
east and west sides of the VFW property, so a consistent zoning
pattern will be established by the City if the rezoning request is
approved.
Ms. McPherson stated the property does meet the minimum lot size
and lot width requirements and the required number of parking
spaces with the proposed expansion.
Ms. McPherson stated variances were granted in 1975 to reduce the
hard surface setback from the public right-of-way, a side lot line,
and the building. In addition, the petitioners have requested
additional variance to correct an existing encroachment for a side
yard setback.
Ms. McPherson stated that as all three criteria are met by the
rezoning request, staff recommends that the Planning Commission
recommend approval of the rezoning request with one stipulation:
�„1 1. Plat request, P.S. #92-01, shall be approved.
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Mr. Ron Bollinger, VFW Post #363, stated he had nothing to add to
the staff's presentation. They have no problem with any of the
stipulations.
Ms. Savage stated the VFW might want to contact the Rice Creek
Watershed District regarding a permit.
Ms. McPherson stated that could be added as a stipulation.
Mr. Steven Hardel, Fridley Tire and Brake, 1010 Osborne Road, asked
that regarding the variance to the existing side yard encroachment,
will the driveway changed or is that just a paper change?
Ms. McPherson stated the driveway will not be changed.
Mr. Hardel stated he would like to keep the existing fence between
the VFW property and his property.
Mr. Bollinger stated that all the existing fencing will stay. The
only fencing that will change is internal fencing on the property.
Mr. Sielaff asked if Division 7 would be storing any hazardous
chemicals.
,-� Ms. McPherson stated Division 7 has an architectural section which
� does the design work, a structural section, and the installation
portion. Division 7 intends to cold store materials and equipment
on site that are associated with the installation work. Also, the
northern half of the Lampert Lumber site will be used for storage
of fleet vehicles associated with the installation work. All the
chemicals used by Division 7 are finished chemicals. Division 7
has been in close contact with the Fridley Fire Department for the
proper storage of materials.
Mr. Sielaff asked about traffic on the Division 7 property with
the moving of materials and equipment.
Ms. McPherson stated she believed the vehicles used by Division 7
are smaller trucks. She would anticipate that most of the
materials would be delivered to the job site.
MOTION by Ms. Sherek, seconded by Mr. Saba, to close the public
hearing.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED
T8E MOTION CARRIED AND THE PIIBLIC HEARING CL03ED AT 7:50 P.M.
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Mr. Kondrick, to recommend to City
Council approval of preliminary plat, P.S. #92-01, by Fridley VFW
,,_ Post #363, VFW #363, with the following stipulations:
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1. Variance requests for VFW and Division 7 shall be
approved.
2. The final drainage plan shall be approved by the
Engineering Department prior to issuance of a building
permit. The final plan shall include curbing with a four
foot rip-rapped opening between the parking and
landscaped areas.
3. The landscaping plan, including underground irrigation,
shall be approved by staff prior to issuance of a
building permit.
4. The 14 foot open space easement shall be recorded against
the Lot 1, Block 1, VFW Addition, and a copy shall be
submitted to the City for its files.
5. Rezoning request, ZOA #92-01, shall be approved.
6. A ten foot utility easement for a distance of 165 feet
along the north property line of the expanded parking
area shall be granted to the City.
7. A paving plan shall be submitted to the City prior to
;� the use of the existing gravel area by vehicles on the
Division 7 property. ,
8. The petitioners shall receive a permit from the Rice
Creek Watershed District prior to construction of the
parking lot.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED
T8E MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIIBLY.
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Mr. Kondrick, to recommend to City
Council approval of rezoning, ZOA #92-01, by Fridley VFW Post #363,
with the following stipulations:
1. Plat request, P.S. #92-01, shall be approved.
2. The petitioners check with the Rice Creek Watershed
District regarding any needed permit.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE•, CBAIRPERSON HETZOLD DTsCLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY.
Ms. McPherson stated that at their April 6, 1992, meeting, the City
Council will establish a public hearing for these items on April
20, 1992, with final approval on May 4, 1992.
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3. CONSIDERATION OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT SP #92-01 BY WALTER
KLUS: Per Section 205.13.O1.C.(7) of the Fridley City Code,
to allow motor vehicle fuel and oil dispensing service as an
. accessory use to a convenience store, on Lot 1, Block 1,
Pearson's ist Addition, the same being 7883-7899 East River
Road N.E. (Riverboat Shopping Center)
MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Ms. Savage, to open waive the
reading of the public hearing notice and open the public hearing.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIN(3 AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE PIIHLIC HEARING OPPN AT 8:00 P.M.
Ms. McPherson stated the property is located at the southeast
corner of 79th Way and East River Road. The property is zoned C-
1, Local Business. There is R-3, General Multiple Family Dwelling,
on all sides of the property.
Ms. McPherson stated the petitioner is proposing to install a pump
island canopy which requires a special use permit. In addition to
the special use permit request, the petitioner was required to
request a variances to the hard surface setback: 20 feet to 17
feet to correct an existing encroachment; and 20 feet to 14 feet
and 20 feet to 6 feet. The greatest encroachment is at the
� southwest portion of the property. Prior to the Appeals Commission
reviewing the proposed plan and variance request on March 17, 1992,
the petitioner was able to arrange a lea'se agreement with the
property owner to the e�st to lease a minimum of four and maximum
of ten parking spaces. This eliminated the need to expand the
parking area at the southwest corner.
Ms. McPherson stated the petitioner needs the variances in order
to expand the parking area to accommodate the addition of the pump
island. As proposed the site plan does meet the parking
requirements as calculated based on the existing uses in the
building. However, if the uses change and become retail, the site
could be short parking spaces.
Ms. McPherson stated the petitioner has located the pump island in
an area that does not conflict with the overall traffic pattern of
the site, and the placement of additional curbing along the
southwest corner of the pump island will aid in directing traffic
into and out of the gas pump area.
Ms. McPherson stated the petitioner should submit a sign plan if
the request is approved showing where directional signage would be
placed and the type of directional signage. The petitioner is also
proposing to additional landscaping per the Code requirements.
Tnlhile the petitioner has carefully located the pumps to minimize
,,� internal conflicts, the property will still be short parking spaces
� if the uses in the building change to retail. While the addition
of the leased parking spaces would alleviate any potential parking
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problems, the site still cannot meet the parking requirements as
stated in the Code. The Code does require that all parking
associated with a particular use be accommodated on site.
Ms. McPherson stated staff recommends that the Planning Commission
recommend denial of the special use permit; however, if the
Commission recommends approval, staff recommends the following
stipulations:
1. The variance request, VAR #92-02, shall be approved.
2. A signage plan showing the placement and type of
directional signage shall be submitted prior to building
permit application.
3. The landscape plan shall be approved by staff prior to
issuance of a building permit.
Mr. Kondrick stated that if the building was converted to a full
retail operation, does the consideration for the number of spaces
for the whole center include employee parking?
Ms. McPherson stated, yes, it does.
Mr. Kondrick stated that if the leased parking is used for
employees only, would there then be enough parking spaces on site?
Ms. McPherson stated that she calculated the parking requirements
on the existing uses in the building. If the variances are not
granted by the City Council, at a minimum, the petitioner would be
short six spaces based on today's uses, not including the potential
of adding up to ten leased parking spaces. If the entire building
was converted to retail uses, that shortage would become nine
spaces based on retail calculations in the Code. Although the
opportunity to lease parking spaces exists, she calculated the
shortage as if that opportunity did not exist. If the Commission
agrees that the addition of the leased spaces meets the Code
requirement and the petitioner leases ten spaces, then that would
meet the Code requirement and the petitioner would have one extra
parking space.
Mr. Klus stated he and his wife own and operate the Riverboat
Shopping Center. The reason they are asking for the special use
permit and the variances is because the market has changed. It
is a very unique property. It is small and has a lot of angles.
The market for convenience stores today has changed and convenience
stores will not operate without gas pumps. This has put them in
a very difficult position. With this site being small and having
the angles, they realized they could have a problem with parking.
There is a legal precedent for having parking off the site. The
adjacent apartment building owner has allowed him to lease up to
ten parking spaces on a long term lease. The parking spaces will
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be for employees and they believe that will meet their parking
needs for the center.
Mr. Klus stated he hired an.architect to draw up the plans. He
stated they had three drawings and, with the help of City staff,
chose the plan that best fit the needs of the site. They have
tried to find ways to not encroach into the setbacks any more than
they have.
Mr. Kondrick asked what kind of gas would be dispensed.
Mr. Klus stated they will have two blending pumps which will allow
four products for each pump: unleaded, super unleaded, high test
unleaded, and regular or diesel.
Mr. Betzold stated he would like the petitioner to have every
opportunity to stay in business, but he wondered if it wouldn't be
detrimental in the long run to try to squeeze the space, especially
knowing that East River Road will be expanded in the future.
Customers might not be willing to patronize a center that is
difficult to get into and out of and possibly the shortage of
parking spaces.
Mr. Klus stated they feel they have sufficient parking if they use
� the leased spaces for employee parking. The center is on a
signalized intersection so the traffic is always controlled. By
locating the pumps and parking the way they have, they have tried
to minimize any external problems.
Ms. Modig asked how long the lease would be for the parking.
Mr. Klus stated it is a 10 year lease with a 5 year renewal.
Mr. Stan Jones stated he owns the video store in the Riverboat
Shopping Center, and he will be parking in the leased parking area.
He stated he is in favor of adding the gas pumps to the center.
He stated he did not think adding the gas pumps would have an
adverse impact on the traffic into and out of the center. He can
understand the Commission's concerns about parking, but the mix of
businesses in the center is such that one portion of the center is
busy at one time of the day, and another portion is busy at another
time of day. By moving the employees to the leased parking area,
there will not be any parking problems.
Mr. Betzold asked where snow is stored in the winter.
Mr. Jones stated the snow is pushed to the open area in the
southwest corner of the site.
Mr. Kondrick stated that if the southern entrance is blocked off,
he is concerned about the car entering from the northern entrance
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to the pump island on the east side having enough turning radius
to leave the gas pumps and exit the northern entrance.
MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Ms. Sherek, to close the public
hearing.
IIPON A VOICTs VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPER80N HETZOLD DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE PIIBLIC HBARING CL08ED AT 8:25 P.M.
Mr. Kondrick agreed the addition of the gas pumps will bring more
business to the tenants in the center. Leased parking spaces for
employees is a definite must for the property. He has shopped at
this center, and sometimes there is no room to park, especially
with the video store, during certain times of the day. This
property is pretty cramped, but he could recommend approval of the
special use permit.
Mr. Betzold stated he does want to help the property owner to keep
the center going, but there are a lot of things being squeezed into
a small piece of real estate.
Ms. Savage stated the site is not very appealing the way it is
now. The property is rather rundown. The site definitely needs
improvement, and it appears this plan will be a definite
� improvement. There is also a landscaping plan that will improve
the property. �
Ms: Savage stated the Appeals Commission recommended approval of
the variance based on the following factors:
1. Economic hardship (which is not sufficient under State
Statute, but the Commission felt it was an issue)
2. A unique sized lot
3. The proposed plan will improve the site and the area.
Ms. Savage stated that in order to be consistent with the Appeals
Commission's action, she would recommend approval of the special
use permit.
Mr. Saba agreed. The pumps will help the tenants, especially if
they are multi-usage pumps. On the other hand, the time of usage
is a significant factor with the business hours of the tenants.
As long as they can be assured that there will be employee parking
off site, the site should be improved. He would like the
Commission to stipulate that an irrigation system will be required
for maintenance of the landscaping.
,� Mr. Kondrick stated that a proper landscaping plan and enforcement
� of that landscaping plan could certainly change the look of that
site.
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Ms. Sherek agreed. She stated that so many times the City has
allowed people to put more than they should onto a piece of
proper�y, and then staff has to deal with the problems associated
with it. The City has also experienced landscape plans that never
quite make it to completion, so she believed they should stipulate
a completion date. There should also be a bond.
MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Ms. Modig, to recommend to City
Council approval of special use permit, SP #92-01, by Walter Klus,
per Section 205.13.01.C.(7) of the Fridley City Code, to allow
motor vehicle fuel and oil dispensing service as an accessory use
to a convenience store, on Lot 1, Block 1, Pearson's 1st Addition,
the same being 7883-7899 East River Road N.E. (Riverboat Shopping
Center), with the following stipulations:
1. The variance request, VAR #92-02, shall be approved.
2. A signage plan showing the placement and type of
directional signage shall be submitted prior to building
permit application.
3. The landscape plan with underground irrigation shall be
approved by staff prior to issuance of a building permit
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.� and.shall be completed by November 1, 1992.
4. A performance bond in the amount of 3% of the
construction value shall be required to ensure completion
of the landscape plan.
5. An executed copy of the parking lease shall be provided
to the City prior to the issuance of a building permit.
Mr. Betzold stated he is supporting this motion with great reserva-
tions. He wants to see the center succeed, but this is just
putting too much on this small site.
IIPON A VOI�E VOTE, ALI� VOTING AYE, CHAIRPER30N BETZOLD DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY.
Ms. McPherson stated the variance and special use permit requests
will go to the City Council on April 6, 1992.
4. CONSIDERATION OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE WATER AND SEWER CHAPTER
OF THE CITY OF FRIDLEY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN:
MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Ms. Savage, to open the public
hearing. _
IIPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE PIIBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 8:35 P.M.
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Ms. McPherson stated that in 1988, Metropolitan Council revised
its Water Resources Management Plans, both the Water portion and
the Sanitary Sewer portion. At the May 8, 1991, Planning
Commission, staff presented a draft of a proposed Water and Sewer
Chapter of the City's Comprehensive Plan. At that meeting, the
Commission had several concerns and questions. Staff compiled
those comments and, hopefully, provided answers to those questions
in a memo dated August 8, 1991.
Ms. McPherson stated that regarding the regional goals and
policies, only the sewer revision to the Water Resources Management
Plan affects the City of Fridley. Three policy areas at the
regional level whbch affect Fridley are: (1) Reduction of
infiltration and iraflow (I/I) in the local sanitary sewer system;
(2) Elimination of on-site sewage disposal systems; and (3)
Determination by the community that projected flows to the year
2010 are within the capacity of the system.
Ms. McPherson stated City staff has determined that the City is in
compliance with the regional policies, and they have ordinances and
policies which encourage reduction and elimination of inflow and
infiltration as well as the elimination of on-site sewage disposal
systems. They.hav� calculated that the available capacity in the
existing system will be to handle the projected flows to the year
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Ms. McPherson stated there were no revisions to the water portion
of the Water Resources Management Plan at the regional level;
however, the Metropolitan Council has completed a long term water
plan which was submitted to the legislature for review in the 1992
session. There are nine recommendations in that long term water
supply plan, some which may affect the City's policies as far as
water supply. Staff plans to continue to monitor those activities
and legislative ac�.ions as to how they may impact the proposed
goals and policies as outlined in the draft submitted to the
Commission.
Ms. McPherson stated staff recommends that the Planning Commission
recommend that the City Council adopt the proposed amendment to the
Water and Sewer chapter of the Comprehensive Plan.
Mr. Sielaff stated it might be useful to have information of what
percentage of the �aater supply comes from the Mt. Simon-Hinckley
aquifer versus the Prairie Du Chien-Jordan aquifer. It might be
useful to know what aquifers the City gets its water from and the
percentage.
Mr. Sielaff stated that regarding the contamination, does the City
sample at the wellh�ad?
� Ms. McPherson stat�ed the City has been sampling the outgoing
product, as well as at the wellhead. They also have monitoring
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wells in the Comm�ns well which are separate from the actual
producing wells.
Mr. Betzold asked how Fridley's plan compares with the plans for
other cities.
Ms. McPherson stated the only Comprehensive Plan she has reviewed
is the New Brighton plan. As far as the water supply and sewage
portions, she feels Fridley has more detailed information in the
chapter and is more useful to the general public.
Mr. Sielaff stated that regarding the construction of the wells,
some that have been in the ground for awhile might need repair.
Is there some program for monitoring what wells need repair?
Ms. McPherson stated she believed the capital improvements program
which is in 5 year increments takes into account the age of the
water systems and budgets for repairs. She believed some well
repair has been dorse within the last five years.
Mr. Sielaff stated the plan talks about wellhead protection. It
is not required, b�nt maybe the City wants to be proactive.
Ms. McPherson stated there is a Wellhead Protection Technical
�,,\ Advisory Committee through the MPCA which is in the process of
� � setting guidelines and providing typical information as well as
wellhead protection. She spoke to John Flora, Public Works
Director, regarding wellhead protection. Mr. Flora's response was
that the intent of the Zoning Ordinance is such that it protects
the wellheads from neighboring industrial uses versus residential
uses, etc., plus the fact that Fridley is a fully developed
community makes implementing some of the technical recommendations
more difficult. Staff will continue to look at the information
coming from the Wellhead Protection Technical Advisory Committee
for future projects or new wells.
Mr. Saba stated that with the accelerated phase-out of CFC's by
industry, one of the ready options is to go to water cleaning. He
can see increased water uses by industry in the next few years.
Has there been any contact with industry to see what plans they
have for increased water usage?
Ms. McPherson stated, no, they have not done that. She was not
aware there would be this technological change. The proposed rates
for future water usage projections deal mainly with the development
of existing commercial and industrial land that is available in the
community. She did not know if the consultant who did the original
water supply study and made a lot of the recommendations about the
new water reservoir addressed this issue. She stated she could
talk to the Public Works Department about this to see if they have
� considered it and future impacts and if it would change the
original recommendations made by the consultant.
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Mr. Saba stated his concern is the amount of water that will be
used by industry because of the mandatory phase-out of CFC's.
Mr. Sielaff stated that on page 5 under Water Usage, it stated:
"In 1977, 1,467,459,000 gallons of water were used. In 1987, that
number increased to 2,538,043,000 gallons. This is an increase of
170%." He stated he is concerned about a 170% increase over a ten
year period, while the population decreased.
Ms. McPherson stated that between 1977 and 1988, there was a large
amount of commercial and industrial development in the City.
Mr. Kondrick stated that in the past, homeowners have been
restricted from watering during certain hours and days. Does the
City envision any water restrictions on underground irrigation
systems to prevent them from sprinkling with a certain frequency?
The consumption of water for commercial and industrial developments
is very large. Should the City be considering restrictive measures
in case of an emergency?
Ms: McPherson stated the commercial and industrial irrigators fall
under the same ordinances as the homeowner. If underground
irrigation systems are designed properly, they can actually aid in
� water conservation. So, theoretically, they should actually use
� less water than the average homeowner. However, in answer to Mr.
Kondrick's question, yes, they may need to consider restricting
commercial irrigators to do less watering.
Mr. Betzold stated he saw references throughout the plan about
planning for droughts. Is the City waiting for the legislative
study to be completed before the City completes its drought
preparations?
Ms. McPherson stated, yes, at this time. In 1990 and 1991, the
Council passed an ordinance restricting watering. In 1992, the
Council did not adopt those same measures. Under the long term
water supply plan which was submitted to the legislature, there
are several recommendations as to a region-wide conservation plan.
Ms. Modig stated she is more concerned about contamination than
conservation. Does the City have a contingent plan for when it
gets near the point where the water is not safe for drinking?
Ms. Dacy stated that might have to be addressed fairly quickly.
She could follow up on that.
Mr. Saba stated the City needs to be concerned about lawn companies
and what kind of insecticides and weed controls they put on lawns
in the City, because what goes on the lawn goes into the water
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MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Ms. Sherek, to close the public
hearing.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE PIIBLIC HEARING CL03ED AT 9:20 P.M.
MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Ms. Sherek, to recommend that
the City Council adopt the amendment to the Water and Sewer chapter
of the Comprehensive Plan.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPER80N HETZOLD DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE PIIBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 9:20 P.M.
6. RECEIVE THE__FEBRUARY 3, 1992, PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
MINUTES•
MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Ms. Modig, to receive the
February 3, 1992, Parks & Recreation Commission minutes.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED
T8E MOTION CARRIED AND THE PIIBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 9:20 P.M.
7. RECEIVE THE FEBRUARY 13. 1992 HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT
AUTHORITY MINUTES:
� MOTION by Ms. Sherek, seconded by Mr. Kondrick, to receive the
February 13, 1992, Housing & Redevelopment Authority minutes.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE PIIBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 9:20 P.M.
8. RECEIVE THE FEBRUARY 18. 1992 ENVIRONMENTAL OUALITY AND
ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Sielaff, seconded by Mr. Saba, to receive the
February 18, 1992, Environmental Quality & Energy Commission
minutes.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CBAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE PIIBLIC HEARING CLOBED AT 9:20 P.M.
9. RECEIVE THE MARCH 5, 1992, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES•
MOTION by Ms. Sherek, seconded by Ms. Modig, to receive the March
5, 1992, Human Resources Commission minutes.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECL1siRED
THE MOTION CARRIED AND T8E PIIBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 9:20 P.M.
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10. RECEIVE THE MARCH 10. 1992. APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Ms. Savage, seconded by Mr. Kondrick, to receive the
March 10, 1992, Appeals Commission minutes.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERBON BETZOLD DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE PIIBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 9:20 P.M.
11. RECEIVE THE MARCH 12, 1992, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
MINUTES•
MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Mr. Sielaff, to receive the
March 12, 1992, Housing & Redevelopment Authority minutes.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE PQBLIC HEARING CLOBED AT 9:20 P.M.
ADJOURNMENT•
MOTIOAT by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Mr. Sielaff, to adjourn the
meeting. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Betzold
declared the motion carried and the March 25, 1992, Planning
Commission meeting adjourned at 9:30 p.m.
^ e ectfully ubmitted,
L e Saba
Recording Secretary
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