PL 08/12/1992 - 30760CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMI38ION MEETING, AUGUST 12, 1992
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CALL TO ORDER•
Chairperson Betzold called the August 12, 1992, Planning Commission
meeting to order at 7:35 p.m.
ROLL CALL• �
Members Present: Don Betzold, Dean Saba, Sue Sherek,
Larry Kuechle (for Diane Savage), Brad Sielaff
Members Absent: Dave Kondrick, Connie Modig
Others Present: Mich�le McPherson, Planning Assistant
Robert Liska, 424 Longfellow St. N.E.
Boyd & Adelia Maine, 423 - 79th Ave. N.E.
Ralph & Jean Overlie, 433 - 79th Way N.E.
John & Joan Rainville, 3257 Penn Ave. No.
W. R. & Lillian Radel, 6655 Anoka St. N.E.
Kevin Cyrus, 6680 Anoka St. N.E.
�� APPROVAL OF JULY 22, 1992, PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Kuechle, seconded by Mr. Saba, to approve the July
22, 1992, Planning Commission minutes as written.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE � CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY.
1. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP
#92-08, BY ROBERT LISKA:
Per Section 205.07.01.C.(1) of the Fridley City Code, to allow
accessory buildings other than the first accessory building
over 240 square feet, on Lots 15-18, Block 1, Spring Brook
Park, generally located at 424.Longfellow Street N.E.
MOTION by Ms. Sherek, seconded by Mr. Kuechle, to waive the reading
of the public hearing notice and open the public hearing.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPER30N BETZOLD DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY AND THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 7:36 P.M.
Ms. McPherson stated this property is generally located west of
East River Road and adjacent to Spring Brook Place. The property
is zoned R-1, Single Family Dwelling, as are the surrounding
properties. The proposal is for a special use permit to allow a
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second accessory building over 240 sq. ft. The petitioner
currently has an attached two-car garage, and he is proposing to
construct a 24 ft. by 40 ft. four-car garage. The petitioner has
a collection of antique cars and restores them as a hobby. The
proposed garage will be of frame construction similar to the
existing dwelling unit and existing attached garage. By Code, the
proposed accessory structure cannot exceed 14 feet in height. As
proposed, the accessory structure meets the setback requirements
as required by Code and does not adversely impact the maximum lot
coverage or maximum square footage of permitted accessory
buildings.
Ms. McPherson stated the petitioner will not be allowed to conduct
a home occupation out of the accessory structure as it is
prohibited under Section 205.03.34 of the Zoning Code. The
petitioner will also be required to provide a hard surface driveway
to the accessory structure.
Ms. McPherson staff is recommending that the Planning Commission
recommend approval of the special use permit request with the
following stipulations:
1. The accessory structure shall be compatible with the
existing dwelling unit and shall not exceed 14 feet in
n height.
2. The petitioner shall provide a hard surface driveway by
September 1, 1993.
3. The accessory structure shall not be used for a home
occupation as per Section 205.03.34 of the Zoning Code.
4. The petitioner shall not repair automobiles for profit.
5. There shall be no painting of automobiles in the
accessory structure.
6. There shall be no storage of automobiles on the property
or in the accessory structure which are not registered
to the property owner.
7. If conditions #3-#6 are violated, the City reserves the
right to terminate the special use permit. The
petitioner, his heirs, and assigns understand that
termination of the special use permit will require
removal of the accessory structure.
Mr. Betzold asked if this activity is currently being conducted at
this site.
n Ms. McPherson stated that she spoke with the petitioner prior. to
writing the staff report, and he indicated that he has access to
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a professional auto body painting facility, and all his auto body
repair and painting is conducted at that facility. Stipulation #7
is to alert the petitioner that such an activity would not be
permitted under the special use permit. The petitioner is
proposing to use the new structure for storing the restored
vehicles; however, the petitioner has indicated that he does do
some structural work and also reassembles the engines and trans-
missions and mechanical parts in his garage.
Mr. Betzold asked the petitioner if he is planning to do anything
different at his residence if this structure is built than he is
presently doing.
Mr. Robert Liska stated he will not be doing anything different.
He stated he presently restores cars. He does all the mechanical
work and fabrication. He is a machinist by trade so he fabricates
the cars, but he does all the painting and body work at a separate
facility.
Mr. Betzold asked if the petitioner uses drilis and sanders at the
present time. He is concerned about any noise which might be
emanating into the residential neighborhood.
Mr. Liska stated he does not use any drills or sanders for body
n_ work. He has owned the house for almost seven years, and he has
restored three cars. He is not aware of any complaints from the
neighbors about noise. He does not make any loud noises beyond a
reasonable time. He is very concerned about his neighbors.
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Mr. Liska stated he owns five cars at the present time. He wants
to store them all inside and out of siqht. He wants to keep the
property clean and keep his property value up.
Mr. Sielaff asked if the petitioner would be using any bright
security lights.
Mr. Liska stated he did not intend to have any outside security
lights.
Mr. Betzold stated that if the City started receiving any
complaints about noise and excessive activity, can that be reviewed
by other parts of the City Code? Even if there is no stipulation
and noise became an issue, could that be grounds for revocation of
the special use permit?
Ms. McPherson stated that is correct. There are noise and nuisance
codes which set specific decibels at specific times for the
operation of certain types of equipment which create noise. If
the activity became a nuisance and staff could not work with the
petitioner/property owner to rectify the situation, then she
believed there could be cause for revocation of the special use
permit.
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Mr. Betzold stated wondered if it would be necessary to put in a
stipulation to comply with the code when it is already covered by
City Code.
Ms. McPherson stated the Commission could choose to do that.
Mr. Ralph Overlie, 433 - 79th Way N.E., stated his property backs
up to the proposed building. At the present time, the petitioner
has two old junk cars in the back yard. They do not look like
collectible cars. He stated he did not see the need for the
petitioner to construct a building of this size when he already has
an attached two-garage. with the proposed garage, he would have
six bays. He stated the petitioner is not just doing this for a
hobby; he is in the business of restoring cars. There are all
kinds of old service stations that the petitioner could lease if
he wanted to get into the business. A person cannot work on cars
without making a lot of noise. If he has a hoist, a hoist requires
a compressor, and compressors make a lot of noise. The petitioner
is proposing to expand a small operation into a big operation in
a nice residential neighborhood, and it should not be allowed. He
stated they are planning to put $8,000 of landscaping into their
property, and he hates to see the neighborhood deteriorate. He is
completely opposed to this proposal.
Mr. Overlie stated that he and his wife have lived at this
residence for six years. At the end of Jefferson toward the river,
there is a property that continually has 4-6 junk cars in the front
yard. The City has never done anything about it. If Fridley is
going to�improve and maintain its image, it cannot be considering
this proposal which amounts to putting a commercial enterprise in
a residential neighborhood. Frankly, some of his neighbors have
items stored in their yards that should not be allowed either, and
he did not know what Fridley is doing about this type of situation.
Mr. Boyd Maine, 423 - 79th Way N.E., stated he has lived in the
neighborhood for 14 years and has known Mr. Liska for six years.
He would rather have Mr. Liska build another garage than to have
the cars sitting out in the yard. He stated he has never heard any
noise coming from Mr. Liska's residence.
Ms. Overlie stated she has heard noise on Sunday afternoons.
Mr. Betzold stated that if the special use permit is denied, what
are the petitioner's plans? What about the two cars stored in the
back yard?
Mr. Liska stated that if the special use permit is denied, he would
still have his hobby but with no additional garage space. He would
n probably have to sell the two cars that are stored outside now.
He was planning to restore those two cars. He stated he is not in
the business of restoring cars and selling them. He plans to
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restore these cars and store them, and that is the reason for
building the proposed garage.
Ms. Sherek stated Mr. Overlie mentioned a hoist and a compressor.
Would the petitioner be operating a hoist, a.compressor, or any of
that type of equip�ent in the garage?
Mr..Liska stated he
done in the attached
is for storage. He
other people's cars.
would not. Most of his restoration work is
two car garage. The proposed four-car garage
also stated that he will not be working on
MOTION by Ms. Sherek, seconded by Mr. Saba, to close the public
hearing.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED AND THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 8:00 P.M.
Mr. Kuechle stated that this is a large piece of property whieh can
easily handle this size garage. The lot coverage would still be
quite low. The proposed building gives the petitioner the option
of storing the vehicles inside rather than outside. He stated he
would be in favor of adding a stipulation that there is to be no
outside storage of vehicTes even though the Code already covers
that.
Mr. Betzold stated he is not so sure that approving a special use
permit for a four-car garage for the purpose of storing vehicles
inside rather than outside is justification for granting the
special use permit in the first place. He believed Mr. Overlie was
making a good point that approving a special use permit for an
additional four garage spaces for a total of six garage spaces to
do work, whether or not it is a hobby, may not be appropriate in
a residential neighborhood.
Mr. Saba stated stipulations #4 and #5 that there shall be no
repair of automobiles for profit or painting of automobiles in the
accessory structure are difficult to enforce. It is good that the
petitioner plans to store his vehicles inside, but he is concerned
that the petitioner might purchase more vehicles and have more
vehicles stored outside, even though it is prohibited. He did
agree with Mr. Kuechle that the lot is certainly large enough for
the additional garage.
Mr.. Sielaff stated he did not have any strong objection to this
special use permit, because the petitioner does own a large lot.
If the petitioner wishes to construct a four-car garage on it, as
long as he meets all the code requirements and there are no
problems with noise, he did not have any reason to vote against the
request.
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Ms. Sherek stated that a special use permit was granted about three
years ago for a large garage for the storage of cars, and that has
proved to be an asset for the neighbors and for the City. Her
biggest concern is future owners and the possibility of a repair
garage being operated some time in the future. She would like to
see a stipulation that if the special use permit is granted that
the special use permit be recorded against the property prior to
the issuance of a building permit so that future property owners
will be aware of the special use permit and the restrictions placed
on it.
Ms. McPherson stated she did not believe a stipulation is needed.
It is the City�s responsibility for recording any action against
the property. If the Planning Commission and City Council approve
the special use permit, staff will follow through on that
direction.
MOTION by Mr. Kuechle, seconded by Mr. S�ielaff, to recommend to
City Council approval of Special Use Permit, SP #92-08, by Robert
Liska, per Section 205.07.O1.C.(1) of the Fridley City Code, to
allow accessory buildings other than the first accessory building
over 240 square feet, on Lots 15-18, Block 1, Spring Brook Park,
generally located at 424 Longfellow Street N.E., with the following
stipulations:
n 1. The accessory structure shall be compatible
with the existing dwelling unit and shall not
exceed 14 feet in height.
2. The petitioner shall provide a hard surface
driveway by September 1, 1993.
3. The accessory structure shall not be used for
a home occupation as per Section 205.03.34 of
the Zoning Code.
4. The petitioner shall not repair.automobiles for
profit.
5. There shall be no painting of automobiles in
the accessory structure.
6. There shall be no storage of automobiles on the
property or in the accessory structure which
are not registered to the property owner.
7. All cars and car parts undergoing or awaiting
restoration must be stored inside.
8. If stipulations #3-#6 or any other provisions
^ of the City Code are vi.olated, the City
reserves the right to terminate the special use
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permit. The petitioner, his
understand that termination
permit will require removal
structure.
heirs, and assigns
of the special use
of the accessory
IIPON A VOICE VOTE� BETZOLD VOTING NAY, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED
T$E MOTION CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4-1.
Ms. McPherson stated this item will go to City Council on September
8, 1992.
2. CONSIDERATION OF VACATION RE4UEST SAV #92-02 BY JOHN
RAINVILLE:
To vacate that part of a public street dedication described
as follows: Commencing at the center line of Anoka Street on
the North line of the Southeast Quarter of the Northeast
Quarter of Section 13, Township 30, Range 24; thence North 88
degrees 34 minutes west, a distance of 29.66 feet to the point
of beginning. Thence south 30.01 feet; thence North 37
degrees 0 minutes 40 seconds west, a distance of 38.31 feet;
thence East to the point of beginning. Generally located at
67th Avenue and Anoka Street.
Ms. McPherson stated this vacation request is to vacate a portion
^ of an existing public right-of-way located at the end of Anoka
Street and adjacent to Rice Creek Park. The property is zoned R-
1, Single Family. This request is in conjunction with a second
request for a variance which was reviewed and tabled by the Appeals
Commission on July 21 and will be reviewed again on August 18,
1992. The variance request is to reduce the front yard and side
yard setbacks on this lot to allow the construction of a single
family dwelling.
Ms. McPherson stated the lot is located at the
It is currently heavily wooded, vacant, and
topography. The petitioner is proposing the
construct the structure on the flattest part
end of Anoka Street.
has some very steep
variance in order to
of the property.
Ms. McPherson stated the proposed vacation request deals with a
small triangle area in the northeast eorner of the lot. When the
lot was platted in 1963, in addition to the cul-de-sac right-of-
way adjacent to the subjeet property, this particular triangle was
dedicated as part of an octagon-shaped right-of-way to provide some
type of access into the Anoka County park property. Currently
located in this area of the property is a footpath which leads to
the Anoka County park facility. The petitioner assisted her in
locating the primary and secondary pathways which come off the
Anoka Street cul-de-sac and go down into the Anoka County park
facility.
� Ms. McPherson stated that due to the topography in this general
vicinity and the fact that the property north of the subject
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property is Anoka County park property, construction of a public
road in this area would not be practically feasible. Staff is
recommending that the vacation request be approved by the City only
if the variance request is also approved. If the variance request
is denied, there is really no reason for the vacation request to
be approved. The reason for the vacation request is to provide
additional buildable area for the proposed single family dwelling.
Mr. Betzold asked if it would be desirable or necessary to save any
easement for public access to the park property.
Ms. McPherson stated that is an option for the City, however, there
is public right-of-way di.rectly to the east where the secondary
path is located.
Mr. John Rainville stated he is asking for the vacation of one
corner of the triangular piece of land. The path does go down to
the Creek in that area, but there is ample land available to the
east for access to the Creek. He did not believe he would be
encroaching on anyone's opportunity to develop the park land
further.
Mr. Rai.nville stated he has designed a house that he believes will
work on this lot. He is willing to work with the City on the size
� and placement of the house and the garage. He would take care of
any erosiQn problems . He could guarantee the City that he wi].1 not
use treated timbers or creosote-treated timbers. He would use a
cedar, redwood, or masonry product. Moving the house back to where
the deck is proposed would probably mean the removal of some
hardwood trees. He works for the Minneapolis Park & Recreation
Department, and he is opposed to cutting down quality trees.
Mr. Kevin Cyrus, 6680 Anoka Street, stated that the primary and
secondary path merge midway down the slope. The.secondary path is
quite steep, and, if the vacation is approved, the Creek will be
virtually inaccessible.
Mr. Radel, 6655 Anoka Street, stated there is very little flat land
on this property and it is all sand. There is no way that erosion
can be prevented. The petitioner should be required to follow City
Code like everyone else.
Mr. Rainville stated that if the size of the house is reduced, then
he would like to put up a fence in that area to give him some
security from the traffic to and from the Creek. If the house size
is reduced, then an option might be an easement and the City
maintaining the right-of-way. Right now, the primary path is the
path of least resistance. It is already on his property, so access
will automatically gEt shifted over to the secondary path. There
� is adequate land east of his property for access. The two paths
join within 20-25 feet of the curb line.
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Mr. Kuechle stated he is in favor of recommending approval of the
vacation request. Even though the primary path might be better,
it is on the petitioner's property and, therefore, people are
trespassing on at least a portion of his property. With the street
right-of-way, there is still more than adequate access to the park
iand. If the vacation makes it easier to build on that lot, the
City can well afford to give up that small portion of land.
Mr. Sielaff stated he did not object to the vacation. He had been
concerned about some safety issues if the primary path is less
steep than the secondary path, but there is a safety issue anyway
where the paths converge on the way down to the Creek. He would
vote in favor of the vacation request.
Mr. Saba agreed. He stated they should give the petitioner the
opportunity to try to build on this property.
Mr. Betzold stated he also did not have any objection to the
vacation. This is a fairly minimal area. He wanted to stress to
the petitioner and the neighbors that anything discussed at this
meeting by the Planning Commission is not in any way to suggest or
influence the Appeals Commission and the City Council in their
review and action regarding the variance request.
n MOTION by Ms. Sherek, seconded by Mr. Kuechle, to recommend to City
Council approval of vacation request, SAV #92-03, by John
Rainville, to vacate that part of a public street dedication
described as follows: Commencing at the center line of Anoka
Street on the North line of the Southeast Quarter of the Northeast
Quarter of Section 13, Township 30, Range 24; thence North 88
degrees 34 minutes west, a distance of 29.66 feet to the point of
beginning. Thence south 30.01 feet; thence North 37 degrees 0
minutes 40 seconds west, a distance of 38.31 feet; thence East to
the point of beginning. Generally located at 67th Avenue and Anoka
Street, with the following stipulation:
1. Variance request, VAR #92-16, shall be approved.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY.
Ms. McPherson stated the Appeals Commission will re-review the
variance request on August 18. The City Council will hold a public
hearing on the vacation request in about 4-6 weeks. She stated
that when she gets the specific dates of the Council meetings, the
neighbors will be notified.
3. RECEIVE JULY 9. 1992, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
MINUTES•
� MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Mr. Sielaff, to receive the July
9, 1992, Housing & Redevelopment Authority minutes.
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IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOUSLY.
4. RECEIVE JULY 21. 1992, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES•
MOTION by Mr. Kuechle, seconded by Mr. S-aba „ to receive the July
21, 1992, Appeals Commission minutes.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIM008LY.
5. RECEIVE JULY 21 1992, ENVIR0IV'MENTAL OUALITY & ENERGY
COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Sielaff, seconded by Ms. Sherek, to receive the July
21, 1992, Environmental Quality & Energy Commission minutes.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOU3LY.
6. RECEIVE JUNE l, 1992, PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES•
MOTION by Ms. Sherek, seconded by Mr. Siela�f, to receive the June
�-.\ 1, 1992, Parks & Recreation Commission minutes.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BETZOLD DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOUSLY.
ADJOURNMENT•
MOTION by Ms. Sherek, seconded by Mr. Saba, to adjourn the meeting.
Upon a voice vote, all �oting aye, Chairperson Betzold declared the
motion carried unanimously and the August 12, 1992, Planning
Commission meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m.
Res ctfully sub tted,
yr� Saba
Rec rding Secretary
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, August 12, 1992