PL 12/14/1994 - 30801�
CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNINa CO�II88ION MEETINa, DECEMBER 14, 1994
CALL TO ORDER•
Chairperson Newman called the December 14, 1994, Planning
Commission meeting to order at 7:32 p.m.
ROLL CALL•
Members Present: Dave Kondrick, LeRoy Oquist, Diane Savage;
Brad Sielaff, Dean Saba, Connie Modig
Members Absent: Dave Newman
Others Present: Scott Hickok, Planning Coordinator
Lawrence Feldsien, Sinclair,
6602 Poppy Street, Minneapolis, NIl�T
Bill Davis, Sinclair
6602 Poppy Street, Minneapolis, MN
Kevin Reno, Sinclair,
13340 Poppy Street, Andover, MN
Don Sachs, 6399 Baker Circle, Fridley, NIl�T
Ron Stelter, Friendly Chevrolet
Y'-''� Steve Michel, Michel Commercial Real Estate,
3925 Orleans Lane N., Minneapolis, MN
APPROVAL OF NOVEMBER 30 1994 PLANNIATG COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Sielaff, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to approve the
November 30, 1994, Planning Commission minutes as written.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERBON NEAMAN DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIIBLY.
1. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT ZTA
#94-02. BY ROGER MOODY OF FRIENDLY CHEVROLET:
To consider a zoning text amendment to recodify the Fridley
City Code, Chapter 205, entitled ��Zoning��, by amending Section
205.17.01.C., to allow automobile storage as an accessory use
to adjacent automobile sales facilities on the northeast
quarter lying east of the west 600 feet and south of the north
1,120 feet, Section 12, Township 10, Range 24, Anoka County,
generally located to the east of the Fridley Chevrolet
property, 7501 Highway 65 N.E.
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Ms. Modig, to taaive the reading of
the public hearing notice and to open the public hearinge
1,.,, IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIN�3 AYE, CHAIRPERSON NEAMAN DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED AND THE PIIBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 7:34 P.M.
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Mr. Hickok stated the petitioner has requested a zoning tesct
amendment that would allow the use of an M-1, Light Industrial,
zoning district for screened outdoor vehicle storage. The parcel
is adjacent to the existing parcel zoned C-3, General Commercial
property. The property has been in existence as an automobile
dealership since 1971.
Mr. Hickok stated the existing parcel along Highway 65 is zoned C-
3, General Commercial. To the east is an M-1 parcel that is
currently undeveloped. This request would allow the text of the
zoning code to be amended and allow a special use provision for use
of that M-1 site to be used to store inventory for the dealership
and allow parking for employees' vehicles.
Mr. Hickok stated the staff analysis involved looking first at
whether or not an amendment to the M-1 district was most
appropriate. Staff looked at rezoning the site to C-3. The
consensus on the rezoning option was that this would cut up an
existing M-1 district and is not consistent. The M-1 property is
surrounded to the north and south by M-1 property and is
appropriate as an M-1 district. The special use permit provisions
that exist in the M-1 district were also reviewed to see if there
was something in the text to say this could happen as a special
r"'`� use. This was not clearly described. In staff's opinion, the M-1
text would have to be modified to allow a special use provision.
In the R-1 district, there is a special use permit provision that
would allow multi-family complexes to park on single family
property with a special use permit. This is very similar.
Mr. Hickok stated the staff report mentions a special use pernait.
The petitioner was not ready with a plan at this time. The
petitioner wanted to approach this as a zoning text amendment
first. If this was deemed appropriate, they would then come
forward with a special use permit request. Staff recommends
approval of the following text amendment:
(13) Storage of new or used automobiles incidental to an automobile
agency, provided that the following minimum requirements are
met:
(a) Motor vehicles stored outside shall not exceed 15 feet in
height;
(b) Screening materials are provided as in Section
205.17.06.G.(1).(a).;
(c) No materials shall be stored on the property other than
new and used automobiles incidental to the adjacent
n automobile agency;
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(d) Lighting associated with the storage area shall be
downcast security/safety lighting and shall not exceed a
footcandle measurement deemed appropriate by the City for
the specific location.
(e) A site plan shall be submitted indicating all code
required elements, including but not limited to, concrete
or asphalt parking surfaces, concrete curbing around the
perimeter of all parking surfaces, screening walls or
fences, specific landscape plant materials, plant
locations, irrigation plans for landscaped areas, and
driveways. ,
(f) The location and design of all driveways shall be
constructed to avoid noise and traffic impact on
residential areas.
(g) No sales or display activity shall occur on the propertyo
(h) Drive aisles shall be kept free of vehicles to allow
proper circulation of emergency vehicles.
(i) No junk or inoperable vehicles shall be stored on site.
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(j) All screening fence installations shall meet the minimum
building setback requirements from any property line
abutting public right-of-way.
Mr. Hickok stated staff recommends this language as an amendment to
the M-1 district.
Ms. Modig stated the recommended language in (13).(e). talks about
parking surfaces. Does this exclude gravel?
Mr. Hickok stated yes. The surface would need to be a firm
surface.
Mr. Stelter stated he was attending for Mr. Moody, who was not able
to attend the meeting. Mr. Stelter questioned (13).(g), which does
not allow sales or display activity on the property. If they have
a customer who wants to see a vehicle in this storage area, does
that mean we cannot take that customer there to see the vehicle?
The language seems somewhat vaguee
Mr. Hickok stated the intent is that this not be used as a display
area for vehicles. In discussions with dealership representatives,
staff's understanding is that this will free up the display area
near the existing building and allow them to make better use of
that existing space while having a place for inventory and employee
vehicles. Our intent is to say that this is for stora+g+e s�nd
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employee parking and is not to be an expansion of the display floor
for the dealership.
Mr. Oquist stated it is not uncommon for a dealership to walk a
customer back to a display to show them a car or cars beinq
discussed. He suggesting wording that would allow them to at least
walk into the area and show customers a vehicle. Other dealers
have done this for him.
Mr. Hickok stated the intent is not to expand the display floor.
He would welcome suggestions to adapt the wording. He did not
think the impact of showing a car would be detrimental.
Mr. Sielaff did not think the language would be needed.
Mr. Saba did not know how this could be prohibited. It would be
another matter if they are bringing cars up to the customer for a
test drive.
Mr. Stelter stated everything is for sale. Not allowing the
customer into this area is very restrictive.
Mr. Sielaff asked if the real issue was the lighting and screening.
This expansion area may not be a good place to display vehicles.
Mr. Hickok stated this makes it clear that along the bacic of this
site there would not be display pads to attract customers and would
not be meant to attract customers or increase visibility. He did
not think there would be an issue with the dealer walking into the
area with a customer.
Mr. Newman suggested the wording for (g) to read, °Vehicles will
not be displayed for sale on the property��e Taking a buyer into
the area may be considered a sales activity, but the vehicles are
not being displayed for sale.
Mr. Stelter stated it would be almost impossible for a salesperson
not to walk back there to show a car to a customer. �
Mr. Stelter stated Friendly Chevrolet has hired the services of
Phillips Klein for a possible expansion to the showroom and service
department. The site plan for this storage lot will also be drawn
at that time.
Mr. Sielaff asked if there was any criteria for what can or cannot
be amended.
Mr. Hickok stated, from the City's perspective, this is
f� enabling legislation within the zoning umbrella and we
i amend as long as this goes through the process. Zoning
within �he
are able to
is based on
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the criteria of health, safety and welfare. The change has to be
reasonable and not detrimental to the surrounding developed areas.
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Ms. Modig, to close the public
hearing.
IIPON A VOIC$ VOTE, ALL oOTINa AYE� CHAIRPERSON NEWMAN DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIBD AND THE PIIBLIC HEARING CLOBED AT 7s48 P.M.
Mr. Saba saw no problem with the reguest and felt this was the
right way to approach the request. The petitioner will be
returning for a special use permit.
MOTION by Mr. Sielaff, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to approve Zoning
Text Amendment, ZTA #94-02, by Roger Moody of Friendly Chevrolet,
to consider a zoning text amendment to recodify the Fridley City
Code, Chapter 205, entitled ��Zoning", by amending Section
205.17.O1.C., to allow automobile storage as an accessory use to
adjacent automobile sales facilities on the northeast quarter lying
east of the west 600 feet and south of the north 1,120 feet,
Section 12, Township 10, Range 24, Anoka County, generally located
to the east of the Fridley Chevrolet property, 7501 Highway 65
N.E., as follows:
(13) Storage of new or used automobiles incidental to an automobile
agency, provided that the following minimum requirements are
met:
(a) Motor vehicles stored outside shall not exceed 15 feet in
height;
(b) Screening materials are provided as in Section
205.17.06.G.(1).(a).;
(c) No materials shall be stored on the property other than
new and used automobiles incidental to the adjacent
automobile agency;
(d) Lighting associated with the storage area shall be
downcast security/safety lighting and shall not exceed a
footcandle measurement deemed appropriate by the City for
the specific location.
(e) A site plan shall be submitted indicating all code
required elements, including but not limited to, concrete
or asphalt parking surfaces, concrete curbing around the
perimeter of all parking surfaces, screening walls or
fences, specific landscape plant materials, plant
� locations, irrigation plans for landscaped areas, and
_ driveways.
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(f) The location and design of all driveways shall be
constructed to avoid noise and traffic impact on
residential areas.
(g) Vehicles will not be displayed for sale on the property.
(h) Drive aisles shall be kept free of vehicles to allow
proper circulation of emergency vehicles.
(i) ATo junk or inoperable vehicles shall be stored on site.
(j) All screening fence installations shall meet the minimum
building setback requirements from any property line
abutting public right-of-way.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIN�3 AYE, CHAIItPERBON NEWMAN DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIIBLY.
Mr. Hickok stated the City Council would review this request on
January 9.
2. PUBLIC HEARINGo CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SP
#94-18, BY LAWRENCE FELDSIEN OF SINCLAIR MARKETING CO.:
�''� Per Section 205.15.O1.C. (4) of the Fridley City Code, to allow
a repair garage in a C-3, General Shopping Center District, on
Outlots 2 and 3, Block 1, Moore Lake Highlands 4th Addition,
generally located at 6290 Highway 63 N.E.
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Ms. Modig, to waive the reading
of the public hearing notice and to open the public hearing.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIN(� AYE, CHAIRPER80N NEpMAN DECI�ARED THE
MOTION CARRIED AND THB ppgLIC HEARINa OPEN AT 7s50 P.M.
Mr. Hickok stated the request is to allow reuse of an existing
building along Highway 65. The automotive repair portion of the
code in a General Shopping District requires a special use permit.
The actual dispensing of fuel requires a special use permit as
well. This facility does predate the special use requirements for
the dispensing of fuel but it does cover requiring a special use
permit to reuse the service portion of the building. Before 1974,
this building had service bays that were visible from Highway 65.
Those service bays were covered in 1974 and a special use permit
was granted to allow the sale of campers and trailers on this site.
At that time, the overhead doors had planters placed in front of
the doors and a Sinclair sign placed over the front of the doors.
Recently, Sinclair expressed an interest in removing the planters
and sign, opening the service bays and leasing the facility to a
� client who is interested to providing service at this site. Doing
so requires a special use permit.
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Mr. Hickok stated the City typically requires landscaping in the
boulevard area in front of the pumps and would normally require a
20-foot landscaped area. Because this predates the requirement,
there is parking closer to the property lines and there is not a
20-foot setback. When staff reviewed the site, staff realized
there were certain given factors such as the location of the tanks,
the circulation of the site as it exis�ts today, and the inability
to do certain things like move the tanks. Staff recommended a
number of stipulations as outlined in the staff report included
with the agenda. After discussions with the petitioner, these
stipulations were modified. The request does not adversely impact
surrounding properties or use. Staff recommends approval of the
request with the following stipulations:
1. A fenced screening area to the rear of the building shall be
created. Fencing shall be eight feet in height, board on
board design with an opaque gate (see ��improvement plan° for
fence locations). Used tires, the dumpster, and the waste oil
tank shall be stored within this storage area.
2. No junk vehicles shall be stored on site.
3. Vehicles leaking fluids shall not be stored outside without a
� device to prevent fluids from running off site.
4. The signage shall comply with Chapter 214 of the City Code.
5. Alterations to the site shall comply with the UBC and UFC.
6. Additional landscaped areas lined with concrete curb as
indicated on the improvement plan shall be provided by the
petitioner on sitee The landscaped areas shall include
underground irrigation. The landscaped areas shall include
sod or seed, three ornamental trees, and shrub beds with
evergreen and deciduous shrubs.
7. Any vehicles waiting overnight for repair shall be stored
within the building.
8. The drive aisles shall be reduced to 32 feet.
9. Both overhead doors shall remain closed except to allow
vehicles to be moved in and out of the service bays.
10. The petitioner shall submit a performance bond of $5,000 to
cover the outdoor improvements.
Mr. Hickok stated, after the staff report was completed and staff
�..1 met with the petitioner, the petitioner expressed concerns about
four stipulations. The petitioner felt they would be more
comfortable with sayirtq that there would be no vehic�es outside
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overnight and that the screened area would be for the used tires,
the dumpster, and waste oil tank. The petitioner had concerns
regarding the landscape requirements. The petitioner was
uncomfortable with stipulations 9 and 10.
Mr. Hickok stated, because the special use permit requires
landscape improvements to the site, the petitioner took another
look at what might be the eventual use of the site. The petitioner
knows that by December, 1998, the tanks must be removed or modified
according to State law to make sure they meet the current
requirements for underground tanks. Consequently, the petitioner
requested that the landscape improvements be done in conjunction
with moving the tanks to the north side and reworking the customer
parking and other elements on site. After reviewing, staff was
comfortable with the fact that the petitioner has four years in
which to that. Staff's recommendation is to place a timeline on
the landscaping to say this is to be completed on or before
December, 1998, or at the time the tanks are upgraded whichever
occurs first. This would allow them to begin service on the site
and would say the landscape requirements will take place. In the
event the site plan changes during this process, staff would review
those changes with the petitioner. Stipulation 8 requires 32-foot
drive aisles but the hard surface as it exists goes out to the
property line. The 32-foot drive aisles could be defined by
planters or by painting the surface. Staff is looking at a
solution that would eventually get the property into compliance so
staff is looking at the same type of timeline for stipulation 8 as
suggested for the landscaping.
Mr. Hickok stated these modifications are agreeable with staff and
the petitioner. The petitioner is here to discussion stipulations
9 and 10 and is uncomfortable with the circulation and comfort
level of technicians if they work with the doors closed. Staff's
position is that having the doors closed takes the impact of the
automobile activity off of a major roadway. By current standards,
staff may ask that those doors face another direction.
Mr. Saba asked if a performance bond was typical for this type of
activity.
Mr. Hickok stated performance bonds are typicale The amount
requested is considered relatively small.
Mr. Saba asked if this bond would be held until December, 1998, if
the landscaping and drive aisles were not in compliance.
Mr. Hickok stated yes.
Mr. Newman stated, rather than tie up a bond for four years, the
City can revoke �he special use permit if �e work is not done.
This seems like significant clout without a bpnd. Four years is a
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long time to have $5, 000 tied up, and there is also a paperwork
issue to track a bond for four years.
Mr. Newman asked if staff had looked at the issue of vehicles on
site overnight. Businesses of this nature often have on site tow
trucks, cars for sale, etc.
Mr. Hickok stated the petitioner indicates they would keep the site
clean outside. In lieu of having a storage area behind the
building, no vehicles would be outside. Vehicles related to the
operation would be in the service bays. Staff did not discuss tow
trucks with the petitioner. The site should be a clear lot.
Mr. Newman stated stipulation 7 should then read that all overnight
vehicles should be stored within the building rather than just
those waiting repair.
Mr. Hickok stated this was his understanding. The petitioner is
present to discuss the$e stipulations.
Mr. Feldsien stated they have seen in the marketplace a number of
trends, one of which is that to increase sales they must also
provide service. At a number of their locations, there is an
� interest in doing that and Sinclair is interested in moving in that
direction. Sinclair has owned this facility since the 1960's.
Some of the things discussed with staff have been resolved. There
are still some issues. One of the issues is the outside storage of
vehicles. In order to operate a service station, some vehicles
must wait outside in order to service them during the day. His
original thought was that at closing time there would be no
vehicles outside. In further discussion with Mr. Reno, who would
be operating the service station, some vehicles may need to be
stored outside. Sinclair has a policy that they are not in favor
of storing vehicles outside. Vehicles to be worked on are okay,
but nothing that will be on site more than one day. The company
checks their sites internally to police that policy.
Mr. Feldsien discussed the issue of the overhead doors. This
building is not air conditioned. To work on cars inside in the
summer gets very hot. The overhead door issue is a matter of
comfort and bears on the quality of the work done by the
technicians.
Mr. Feldsien stated, regarding the bond, if we do not perform our
requirements, the special use permit can be taken awaye The
company has more invested in the site than in the bond.
Mr. Feldsien showed a preliminary site plan showing the intended
,� land use expansion while still meeting the code requirements. In
order to meet the requirements, the dispensers could not be placed
in the same location. The islands would need to be moved to the
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north side of the building. One concern in doing so is allowing
room for trucks to come in and fill the tanks. The proposed
landscaping and storage area was reviewed.
Mr. Newman asked if Mr. Feldsien envisioned the overhead doors
would remain facing Highway 65,
Mr. Feldsien stated, at this point, yes. The mechanical and rest
rooms are to the north as is the sales room. The only logical
place for the service bay is where they are now or to the rear. If
placed to the rear, the turn around is very tight. The building is
only 30 feet from the property line.
Mr. Newman stated he had less concern about the overhead doors
being open if they faced the highway. If the doors are relocated,
the neighbors may be concerned.
Mr. Feldsien stated the building is made of concrete block and is
in good condition. Sinclair has no intention of taking down the
building. They might consider putting a canopy over the dispensers
to the north of the building.
Mr. Saba asked if there were any plans to have tow trucks on the
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Mr. Reno stated they currently have a tow truck at their other
location and would likely have one at this site. If this is an
issue, they can keep it at their other location.
Mr. Oquist stated the tow truck would be parked to the back or side
of the building during the day and inside at night.
Mr. Newman stated, getting back to the parking issue, he was not
sure what the petitioner was requesting for parking.
Mr. Feldsien stated he talked with staff and understood that they
were to try to park all vehicles inside. In talking to Mr. Reno,
he stated there may be additional vehicles they would have to park
outside. The question is how many cars would there be at any given
time.
Mr. Reno stated the number would depend on the customer base. If
they have a large customer base, they will have cars. If they are
to have only two vehicles, they cannot operate a business. He does
work for major area dealerships. Customers cannot always pick up
their cars so there is some carry over. If they do a good
business, there cauld be ten cars on the lot. That is part of the
incidentals of doing this type of business. It should be good if
^ they can get the cars in and out of the site in a timely fashion.
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Mr. Newman stated he recognized that the petitioner was sincere but
a successor may have a different attitude. They want the
petitioner to be successful. He understands certain vehicles will
stay overnight. How do we guard against vehicles that constantly
turn over versus a loaner car kept on site or selling a car? How
do we distinguish the difference?
Mr. Feldsien stated Sinclair does not allow any sales of vehicles
on site.
Mr. Reno suggested.wording that any vehicles that would be on site
for more than 48 hours be behind the building.
Mr. Newman asked if vehicles could be stored overnight in the
screened area.
Mr. Reno stated the fenced area was not large enough.
Mr. Oquist suggested saying that any vehicle on the property for
more than 24 hours has to be on the south side or in the area to
the rear of the building. A fence goes around the property so the
vehicles would not be exposed to Highway 65.
Nir. Saba asked if there was a residential area to the back.
Mr. Oquist stated there is not a residential area directly behind
this site. There is commercial property to the south.
Mr. ATewman stated the storage area appeared to be of good size.
Mr. Hickok stated there is 45 feet from the building to the rear
and 30 feet of space on the south side of the building. From a
staff analysis standpoint and in light of this information, there
is a controlling feature about a certain size containment area.
There is not only effective screening of vehicles leaving an open
and uncluttered space, but also has a just-in-time inventory
aspect. He would suggest the language provide for a screened area
or not to exceed a certain number of stalls to avoid clutter.
Mr. Newman asked about including the suggestion that no vehicles
are to be stored for more than 24 hours outside.
Mr. Hickok stated this is difficult to enforce. This could require
daily checks. Staff would be more comfortable to drive by and say
they are exceeding, for example, 20� of the spaces or there are
cars outside of the containment area.
Mr. Oquist stated he was thinking the cars would be restrained to
� the south and west side of the building with nothing to the east
and north for storage. This would help to contain the storage
parking in a certain ar�a.
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Mr. Reno stated trying to pack the cars into a aignificant area of
the lot would not look right. He suggested striping the lot to
provide for logical parking. If cars are parked in an organized
fashion, it would look okay.
Mr. oquist stated he was concerned about a Sinclair station in the
area that had a boat stored there for some time. He did not want
that kind of clutter.
Mr. Reno agreed there should not be clutter. He is not in the
business to store vehicles. The parking lot could be striped for
parking. The less mess there is the easier it is for them to work.
The business plan is to provide general maintenance rather than
major repairs.
Mr. Hickok stated a parking area is 10 feet x 20 feet. The storage
area would provide nine standard size parking spaces.
Mr. Newman stated three cars could be parked in the 30 foot strip
to the south of the building without jockeying vehicles. He is
inclined to say to park inside or inside the screened area.
Ms. Modig stated another service station has cars parked on the
r"'� south and east. She did not think the Commission could make it
more prohibitive for this petitioner than for another business in
the City. The other station is across the street from a
residential area. iiere the cars are going to be facing a parking
lot and a shopping center.
Mr. Hickok stated, as staff analyzed, one of the questions is,
given the opportunity with the special use permit and given the
conditions that exist on this site, would we allow that to happen
again. That points out there are some unsightly issues detrimental
to surrounding properties. Given the same opportunity, we would
not allow that to happen again. We are asking the petitioner
through the special use permit process to abide by certain
conditions.
Mr. Newman stated, to address Ms. Modig's concern, can we go back
and adopt an ordinance that vehicle maintenance services areas not
have vehicles stored outside for more than 24 or 48 business hours.
Mr. Sielaff stated, if doing maintenance, there could be many cars
there.
Mr. Reno stated he has a location in Anoka which is in a
residential neighborhood. At this location, they service 240 cars
a month or about 12 cars per day. They have not had complaints
� from their customers or from the neighborhood. It is a matter of
being organized and being neat. The nature of the business is that
there will be a number of cars. He hopes their business would be
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about the same in this location. Cars are constantly rotated. The
site is kept neat and clean.
Mr. Sielaff stated a restriction on clutter does not do much and is
hard to police.
Mr. Newman stated, as long as there is turnover, vehicles are not
stored for weeks on end.
Mr. Sielaff asked if there was anything that could be done to
manage the flow in and out such as asking a customer to bring in
their car and pick it up at a certain time.
Mr. Reno stated they call those who do not pick up their cars.
They have to do that anyway. The current parking only holds ten
cars.
Mr. Newman asked how many cars do they average staying overnight on
site.
Mr. Reno stated there are about ten cars average. This can be
somewhat higher in the winter and lower in the summera
-� Mr. Saba stated he would like to see some way to answer these
concerns. He sees a need for such a service in this area. If
there any wording to cover these concerns?
Mr. Newman aslced if the Commission was comfortable with stipulating
a maximum time of 48 hours.
Ms. Modig stated she did not know how this could be enforced.
Mr. Sielaff thought it made more sense to address the clutter
directly which could mean having a separate storage area or
restricting the number of parking spaces outside the facility.
Someone could count the cars and, if above a certain number, it is
a violation.
Mr. Newman stated the problem he could see is when 15 customers
want to drop off their cars the night before and they cannot do so
because it is against the ordinance.
Ms. Modig stated this does not address boats. Can this include
language that these must be motorized vehicles?
Mr. Reno stated the City of Anoka has an ordinance that says non-
currently licensed vehicles must be moved in 48 hours. The city
can also restrict the size of the vehicle to eliminate buses or
^ RV's or restrict the length.
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Mr. Sielaff stated putting on a time limit still allows cars there
as long as they are not there for 48 hours,
Mr. Reno stated this can be policed by pulling the work orders.
Mr. Oquist suggested wording that cars are to be orderly parked for
no longer than 48 continuous hours or similar wording so that cars
are parked in stall areas outside and turning them over in 48
hours. It is still hard to police but, if it becomes obvious that
cars have been there a longer time, people can complain and the
City can monitor.
Mr. Hickok stated that is something staff can monitor and enforce.
It does make it difficult to monitor the lot.
Mr. Oquist stated he would also like to include that there shall
not be any non-licensed vehicle there for more than 48 hours. We
have that in our residential areas.
Mr. Hickok stated this is true throughout the City and the City now
has the authority to enforce.
Ms. Modig asked if it would be beneficial to put on a height
restriction.
Mr. Hickok stated he thought the issue is the percentage of the
site covered by vehicles. On a typical evening, there may be ten
vehicles. There are ten defined parking stalls. We could expect
that all parking stalls on the site, not including those on the
back side of the building, will be full at all times. It was the
clutter issue that staff was looking at. The fenced containment
area allows nine vehicles and mandates rotation of vehicles. If
they found they could not make it with nine vehicles, there are
three more possible stalls to the south of the building. If the
cars are to be screened and rotated, the fenced in area mandates
rotation. If the Commission is comfortable with having vehicles
outside, we should be specific to say that each vehicle needs to be
in a parking stall. He is concerned about orderly conditions and
the inventory on site.
Mr. Newman agreed. However, with Minnesota winters and with snow
and ice, it would be difficult to have nine cars at this site every
night.
Mr. Feldsien stated it would be hard to get snow out of that area.
It could be a real problem.
Mr. Newman stated, if there is a thriving business and 15 cars are
^ there, we need to provide some flexibility and tools for them to be
in business at this location.
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Mr. Oquist stated having the cars in an orderly fashion means
having the cars in parking stalls and not in the driving aisles and
having a turn over every 48 hours would provide control.
Mr. Newman asked if that was the direction with which the
Commission was comfortable. He sees other issues including the
bond which perhaps is not needed.
The Commission agreed the bond could be eliminated and to delete
that stipulation.
Mr. ATewman asked for comments concerning the issue of the overhead
doors.
The Commission members had no problems with allowing the overhead
daors to be open.
Mr. Davis asked what was being required for the fenced area.
Mr. Newman stated the fenced area is for screening used tires, the
dumpster, and the waste oil tank.
Mr. Davis stated he understood this also, but it sounded as if the
� discussion meant the entire rear area needed to be screened.
Mr. Sachs stated he lives in the area and he would like to have a
station back in the area. They had a station there before which
was very successful. Now he has to drive to get his car fixed. He
would like to see a station back in the area.
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Ms. Modig, to close the public
hearing.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CBAIRPER80N NSWMAI�T DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED AND T8E pIIgLIC HEARING CL08ED AT 8:47 P.M.
Mr. Newman suggested the parking be restricted to include licensed
motorized vehicles parked in designated parking stalls and not for
more than 48 continuous hours. If the structure is remodeled and
the overhead doors relocated, he would like to review the special
use permit. The landscaping and striping of the parking lot should
be completed by December 31, 1998, or at the time the underground
tanks are installed.
Mr. Sielaff asked how this would change on the site plan so the
only stalls to be parked in are along the north and east of the
building, Would there be parking stalls to the rear?
^ Mr. Newman stated, if it was within the ordinance, it would be
okay.
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Mr. Sielaff stated his concern is there would be no parallel
parking along the landscaped areas to the north overnight and
parking along the west part of the lot overnight.
Mr. Newman asked what would prohibit parking to the rear of the
building.
Mr. Hickok stated the petitioner could use that area for parking as
long as the stalls are striped.
Mr. Newman asked if they needed a clear space for drive lines.
Mr. Hickok stated yes. If the petitioner wanted to have additional
parking in that area, staff would work with the petitioner on
different width drive aisles depending on how the stalls are
designed.
Mr. Sielaff expressed concern that cars could be parked all along
the northwest corner of the site.
Mr. Hickok suggested a stipulation to say that, in the event that
the petitioner chooses to use this area for parking, they must have
/� a pre-approved striping plan and the plan must be approved by City
staff accordingly.
Mr. Newman.asked if staff had a plan that defined the parking.
Mr. Hickok stated the parking as presented is as it exists today.
Mr. Newman suggested a stipulation that, if additional parking
areas are designated above and beyond what is shown on the
submitted plan, these parking areas must be approved by City staff
in accordance with the ordinance.
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to recommend approval
of Special Use Permit, SP #94-18, by Lawrence Feldsien of Sinclair
Marketing Co., to allow a repair garage in a C-3, General Shopping
Center district, on Outlots 2 and 3, Block 1, Moore Lake Highlands
4th Addition, generally located at 6290 Highway 65 N.E., with the
following stipulations:
1. A fenced screening area to the rear of the building shall be
created. Fencing shall be eight feet in height, board on
board design with an opaque gate (see ��improvement plan" for
fence locations). Used tires, the dumpster, and the waste oil
tank shall be stored within this storage area.
2. No junk vehicles shall be stored on site.
^ 3. Vehicles leaking fluids shall not be stored outside without a
device to p�event fluids from running off site.
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4. The signage shall comply with Chapter 214 of the City Code.
5. Alterations to the site shall comply with the UBC and UFC.
6. Additional landscaped areas lined with concrete curb as
indicated on the improvement plan shall be provided by the
petitioner on site. The landscaped areas shall include
underground irrigation. The landscaped areas shall include
sod or seed, three ornamental trees, and shrub beds with
evergreen and deciduous shrubs, to be completed on or before
December 31, 1998, or at the time of the installation of
underground tanks, whichever occurs first.
7. There shall not be any outdoor storage outside of the screened
yard area except for licensed motor vehicles which are parked
in designated parking stalls provided they are not parked
outdoors for more than 48 continuous hours.
8a The drive aisles shall be reduced to 32 feet, to be completed
on or before December 31, 1998, or at the time of the
installation of underground tanks, whichever occurs first.
9. In the event that the structure is remodeled so that the
�`' overhead doors are located other than on the east side of the
building, the special use permit shall be reviewed.
10. If additional parking areas are designated above and beyond
what is shown on the submitted plan, these parking areas must
be approved by City staff in accordance with the ordinance.
IIPON A VOICE VOTTs, ALL VOTINa AYE, CHAIRPERSON NEWMAN DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY.
Mr. Hickok stated the City Council would consider this request on
January 9. •
Mr. Feldsien requested a copy of the minutes be sent to him.
3. RECEIVE THE MINLTTES OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
MEETING OF NOVEMBER 7 1994
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Ms. Modig, to receive the Parks
and Recreation Commission minutes of November 7, 1994.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERBON NEWMAN DECLARED TH8
MOTION CARRILD IINANIMOIIBLY.
4. RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
� MEETING OF NOVEMBER 10 1994
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MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Mr. Sielaff, to receive the Housing
& Redevelopment Authority minutes of November 10, 1994.
IIPON A VOICE VOTL, ALL VOTINa AYE� CHAIRPLRSON NEWMAN DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIIBLY.
5. RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING OF
NOVEMBER 22, 1994
MOTION by Ms. Modig, seconded by Mr. Saba, to receive the Appeals
Commission minutes of November 22, 1994.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPLRSON NEWMAN DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIIBLY.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Ms. Modig, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to adjourn the
meeting.
IIPON A VOICL.VOTE� ALL VOTINQ AYE� CBAIRPER80N NEWMAN DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED AND THE NOVEMHER 30, 1994� PLANNINQ COIrIIrII88ION
MEETING ADJOIIRNED AT 9:53 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Lavonn Cooper
Recording Secretary
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PI,ANNING COMMISSIpN MSETING, Wednesday� December l4, 1994