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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
WEDNESDAY, MAY 1, 1996
7:30 P.M.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WEDNESDAY, MAY 1, 1996 7:30 P.M.
LOCATION: Fridley Municipal Cerrter, 6431 University Avenue N.E.
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES• April 3, 1996
PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SP #96-09 BY
SIRNY ARCHITECTS:
Per Section 205.13.01.C.{6) of the Fridley City Code, to allow a bank or other financial
institution in a G1, Local Business zoning district, on Lots 17 and 18, Block 2, Spring
Valley, generally located at 6303 Central Avenue N.E.
RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING
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OTHER BIJSINESS:
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pLANNINC�i COMMISSION MEETING� APRIL 3� 1996
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Newman called the April 3, 1996, Planning Commission
meeting to order at 7:33 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Dave Newman, Diane Savage, LeRoy Oquist, Dean
Saba, Brad Sielaff, Connie Modig
Members Absent: Dave Kondrick
Others Present: Scott Hickok, Planning Coordinator
Michelle McPherson, Planning Assistant
Lori & Dick Rempe, 5235 Taylor Street
Jackie & Jerry Sypnieski, 5251 Taylor Street
Bill Job, 5250 Taylor Street
Rwin Zemke, 5299 Taylor Street
Jim Rosemeyer, 5285 Taylor Street
John Egelkrout, 5234 Taylor Street
James Cook, 1338 - 53rd Avenue N.E.
^ Dean Bliss, 5212 Fillmore Street
� Ronald Parizek, 5258 Fillmore Street
James �etron, 530D Fillmore Street
Mary Matthews, 1259 Skywood Lane
- Ron Stelter, Friendly Chevrolet
Michael Rlein, Phillips Klein Co., Inc.
John & June Linder, 1350 Skywood Lane N.E.
Nancy Jark, 5201 Central Avenue N.E.
Wayne Dahl, 7699 Highway 65
Charlotte Nessman, 8019 - 6th Street N.E.,
Spring Lake Park, Minnesota
Marvin Nunemaker, 5060 Topper Lane N.E.
Sheldon Mortenson, 1289 Skywood Lane N.E.
Gary Colby, Menards
Steve Soltau, Skywood Mall
Brian Malkerson, Esq., 901 Marquette Avenue,
Minneapolis, Minnesota
Pat Conlin, Milestone Hotel Investments,
681 E. Lake Street, Wayzata, Minnesota
Donald Delich, 5284 Taylor Street N.E.
Judy Engebretson, 5216 Taylor Street N.E.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
MOTION by Ms. Modig, seconded by Ms. Savage, to approve the
agenda. �
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IIPON A VOIC$ VOTE, ALL VOTINa AYS, CSI�IRPERBON NEWMAN DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED IINl�TIMOIIBLY.
APPROVAL �F MARCH 20. 1996 PLANNING COMMISSIOld MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by M=. Sielaff, to agprove the
March 20, 1996, Planning Commission minutes as written.
IIPON A VOICL VOTB, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON NEWMA�T DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED QIJANIMOIIBLY.
1. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
AMENDMENT, CPA #96-01. BY THE CITY OF FRIDLEY:
In accordance with State Statute 462.355, Subdivision 2,
procedure for plan adoption and amendment. The proposal
would add policy #4 to Page 6-5, Chapter 6, Water, Sewer and
Solid Waste:
4. The City w311 apply National Urban Runoff Program
(NURP) standards for the design of new stormwater ponds
and the Minnesota Poliution Control Aqency�s (MPCA)
urban best management practices titled Protecting Water
Quality in Urban Areas to the review of any proposed
development occurring in the City of Fridley to reduce .�
nonpoint source pollutant loadings in stormwater
runoff. The City will incorporate these standards and
requirements in its stormwater management plan and land
use controls to implement this policy.
MOTION by Ms. Savage, seconded by Mr. Sielaff, to waive the
reading of the public hearing notice and to open the public
hearing.
IIPON A VOICL VOTE, ALL VOTINa AYE, CHAIRPER80N NEWMAN DECLARED
T8E MOTION CARRIED AND T8E pIIBLIC HEARIN�3 OPEN AT 7:38 P.M.
Ms. McPherson stated the Comprehensive Plan amenclment is being
proposed by the City of Fridley. The amendment would add policy
#4 to Chapter 6, "Water, Sewer and Solid Waste", and addresses
the City's stormwater runoff and water quality policies. The
amendment is actually related to a Comprehensive Plan change
associated with the Home Depot request. In 1995, the City
changed the land use designation for the Home Depot site located
at Main Street and I-694 from industrial to commercial. The site
consists of 14.5 acres. The Metropolitan Council is reviewing
that Comprehensive Plan amendment indicated the City would also
amend its water, sewer and solid waste chapter to include best
management practices and National Urban Runoff Proqram
requirements.
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Ms. McPherson stated the City has already adopted an erosion
control ordinance and adopted the MPCA's best management
practices by reference so the cities have been incorporating
these water quality standards for a number of years prior to this
amendment. This amendment is a housekeeping item to comply with
the Metropolitan Council directive. The only action for the
Planning Commission is to take public comment and to approve the
language included in the agenda packet.
The Planning Commission had no questions of staff. No public
comment was received.
MOTION by Ms. Modig, seconded by Ms. Savage, to close the public
hearing.
IIPON A VOICTs VOTE, ALL VOTING AYB, CHAIRPERSON NEWMAN DECLARED
T8E MOTION CARRIED AND TH]3 PIIBLIC BEARINa CLOSED AT 7t42 P.M.
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Ms. Savage, to recommend approval
of Comprehensive Plan Amendment, CPA #96-01, by the City of
Fridley, in accordance with State Statute 362.355, Subdivision 2,
procedure for plan adoption and amendment, to add policy #4 to
Chapter 6, Water, Sewer and Solid Waste, as follows:
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4. The City will apply National IIrban Runoff Program (NURP)
standards for the design of new stormwater ponds and the
Minnesota Pollution Control Aqency's (MPCA� urban best
management practices titled Protec�ing Water Quality in
Urban Areas to the review of any p�oposed development
occurring in the City of Fridley to reduce nonpoint source
pollutant loadings in stormwater runoff. The City will
incorporate these standards and requirements in its
stormwater management plan and land use controls to
implement this policy.
IIPON A VOICE 90TE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPLR80N NEWMAN DBCLARLD
THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY.
Ms. McPherson stated the City Council would consider this item at
their meeting on April 22.
2. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL IISE PERMIT. #96-
03. BY WAYNE DAHL: _
Per Section 214.07 of the Fridley City Code, to allow an
automatic changeable sign, generally located at 7699 Highway
65 N.E.
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Ms. Modiq, to waive the reading
of the public hearing notice and to open the public hearing.
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IIPON A VOICE VOTE, AL?, pOTINa AYE� CHAIRpER80N NEWMAN DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED AND THL pTJBLIC HEARINt3 OPEN A'1' 7 t 44 P.M.
Ms. McPherson stated the special use permit request is for 7699
Highway 65, which is located at the southeast corner of the
intersection of Highway 65 and Osborne Road. The special use
permit is in relation to Section 214.07 of the Fridley City Sign
Code which requires that a special use permit be issued prior to
the installation of any automatic changeable sign. Mr. Dahl is
proposing to install a new sign advertising his chiropractic
clinic located on the subject parcel.
Ms. McPherson stated the sign in question is a 4.8 square foot
sign located on the sign which will display the time and
temperature. The sign area with the two portions of the sign is
less than the 80 square feet allowed by code. There are two
other time and temperature signs in the City - one at Home Value
along I-694 and the second at TCF Bank at 52nd and Central.
Menards also has an automatic changeable sign; however, the
conditions of the Menards sign are such that the message may
change only once every 15 minutes. In the case of Mr. Dahl�s
sign, the message may change more often as it is a time and
temperature sign.
Ms. McPherson stated, as the sign meets the criteria of the sign
code, staff recommends approval of the special use permit with
the following stipulation: .
1. If the use of this sign becomes more than time and
teffiperature, the message shall change no more than once
every 15 minutes. .
The Planning Commission had no questions of staff.
Mr. Dahl stated he had no additional information.
Mr. Newman asked if the petitioner was comfortable with the
stipulation.
Mr. Dahl stated yes.
No comment was received from the public.
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by•Mr. Sielaff, to close the public
hear-ing .
QPON A VOICL VOTB, ALL VOTING AYF, CSAIRPERSON NLWMAI�T DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE pIIBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 7s46 P.M.
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MOTION by Mr. Saba, seco•nded by Ms. Savage, to recommend approval �''1
of Special Use Permit, SP �96-03, by Wayne Dahl, to allow an
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automatic changeable sign, generally located at 7699 Highway 65
N.E., with the following stipulation:
1. If the use of this siqn becomes more than time and
temperature, the message shall change no more than once
every 15 minutes.
IIPON A VOICL VOTL, ALL VOTINa AYE, CHAIRPER80N NEWMAN DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRILD IINANIMOUSLY.
Ms. McPherson stated the City Council would consider this request
at their meeting of April 22.
3. PUBLIC HEARING• CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP
#96-04 BY ROGER MOODY OF FRIENDLY CHEVROLET:
Per Section 205.15.O1.C.(2) of the Fridley City Code, to
allow automobile agencies selling or displaying new and/or
used motor vehicles in order for a showroom/office
e�ansion, generally located at 7501 Highway 65 N.E.
MOTION by Ms. Savage, seconded by Mr. Sielaff, to waive the
reading of the public hearing notice and to open the public
hearing.
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IIPON A VOICE VOTT� AI,I. VOTINt3 AYL� CBAIRPERSON NEWMAN DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED AND TH$ PIIBLIC HEARIN(� OPEN AT 7s48 P.M.
Ms. McPherson stated the special use permit request is for
property located at 7501 Highway 65. The subject parcel is
located on Highway 65 and Fireside Drive in the northeast corner
of the intersection. Directly to the north is Rurt Manufacturing
and to the south is the trailer court. The petitioner's request
is to expand the showroom area of the facility.
Ms. McPherson stated the petitioner is proposing to construct a
two-story office and showroom addition along the north side of
the facility. The footprint of the addition is 3,904 square
feet. In addition, the petitioner is also proposing to install
some new curb and gutter along the frontaqe road along Highway 65
and install some additional landscaping along this same frontage.
Ms. McPherson stated staff, in reviewing the request, determined
there are a number of outstanding issues with this particular
�roperty in terms of code requirements specifically dealing with
the�curb and gutter around the perimeter. The 1971 building
permit issued for the original dealership required that curbing
was to be installed around all blacktop parking and driveway
areas which were to be located in front of the building and also
that additional curbing was to be installed along the perimeter
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established between the original developer and the City for
installation of the curbing along Fireside Drive.
Ms. McPherson stated staff reviewed the request in terms of all
setback and lot coverage requirements. Al1 building setback
requirements are met by the proposed addition. There are three
areas in which the parking area does not meet the setback
requirements. Those are along the frontage road along Highway
65, along Fireside Drive, and along the rear property line which
is adjacent to a vacant parcel.
Ms. McPherson stated the parking requirements are met by the
petitioner. As calculated by the code, the use requires 76
parking spaces. However, there are 586 parking spaces available
on the site as striped on the site plan. If the City anticipates
a change in the building use, the potential parking spaces
required is based on the speculative parking ratio of 1:200
square feet. Using that ratio, the building would require 196
spaces. There is more than adequate parking available on the
site to meet this parking requirement.
Ms. McPherson stated there is potentially an issue with the
building code requirement. The State of Minnesota recently
passed a handicap code which would require that handicap access �
be provided to the second floor offices. The City has indicated
that there may be an elevator required as a stipulation of
approval; however, in speaking with the building official and the
architect, that stipulation is still up for debate and the City
is looking to the State of Minnesota for guidance on that issue.
Ms. McPherson stated, regarding grading and drainage, the
petitioner will be replacing existing green area along the north
side of the building plus along the front side with a concrete
display area for cars. The engineering department has indicated
that, if additional green space is provided along the Highway 65
frontage as indicated in the stipulations, the engineerinq
department will not require a grading and drainage plan. The
petitioner also submitted a la�dscape plan specifically dealing
with the Highway 65 frontage. The petitioner has indicated a
hedge of junipers directly in front of the building. One of the
areas for screening not currently provided is adjacent to the
Fireside Drive frontage. Staff has indicated that additional
screening and landscaping should be provided along Fireside
Drive.
Ms. McPherson stated staff recommends approval of the request
with the following stipulations:
1. The boulevard area along the front of the property (facing
Highway 65j:shall be expanded to meet the 20 foot � �
hardsurface area.
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2. The petitioner shall provide curb and qutter along the
entire perimeter of the parking area.
3. The petitioner shall install additional st=eet trees along
the center part of the baulevard area.
4. The petitioner shall expand the boulevard area along
Fireside Drive to meet the 20 foot hardaurfaee setback and
provide the required landscaping, a three foot berm or
hedge, to provide screening for the adjacent residential
property.
5. No cars shall be displayed on the boulevard.
Mr. Sielaff stated staff indicated that part of the problem
previously was t2iat the improvements were bit made because no
time frame was stipulated. What is the assurance that this will
not be a problem in this case?
Ms. McPherson stated the City requires for all building
construction a performance bond that would be the City's
compliance tool.
�} Ms. Savage asked if they needed a time frame to complete the
stipulations.
Ms. McPherson stated it would be an added assurance the -
improvements would be completed in a tiffiely fashion. Staff is
working with a different property owner than.the person who
originally developed the property.
Mr. Newman stated the issue is installing the elevator is a
building code issue rather than a zoning code issue.
Ms. McPherson stated yes. This is not a stipulation. It is just
a note of interest in the staff report.
Mr. Sielaff stated the site is required to have 196 parking
spaces. Does this prevent the petitioner from putting vehicles
in those.196 spaces?
Ms. McPherson stated no. The purpose of making the calculation
was to determine if the number of spaces is adequate should the
use change from a car dealership with an office and showroom to a
more intensive manufacturing use. Staff wanted to make sure
there would be adequate parking spaces should the use change in
the future. The code has no parking calculations for car
dealerships.
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retail customers.
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Ms. McPherson stated the parking stalls are all put together.
The original calculation indicated 76 spaces are required by the
existing use. 20 spaces are directly in front and would be used
for customers who are coming to view cars.
Mr. Stelter, controller for Friendly Chevrolet, stated Mr. Moody
was unable to attend the meeting. He and Mr. Klein were present
to answer any questions.
Mr. Rlein stated he would like to review some items on the staff
report and to ask to reconsider based on plans the owner has for
future development of the property. Mr. Klein presented a site
plan for the property.
Mr. Klein stated, regarding the first stipulation, the petitioner
is proposing they retain the existing setback line as previously
established but that they provide curbing along that line. In
front of the building, they are in compliance with a 20-foot
setback. They would retain that and re-curb with concrete curb
and gutter. Just to the north and south, they are deficient with
the setback by 8-10 feet. They are proposing they be allowed to
retain that deficiency that curb that front line. The reason for
that request is that the front line is already established with
some landscaping. There is a security fencing which exists along
that front setback. The owner recently replaced the entire
parking lot lighting and was replaced with respect to the
existing setback.
Mr. Rlein stated they are asking that stipulation �1 be changed
or revised to read that the boulevard area be expanded to meet
the hardsurface setback area or the applicant obtain the
necessary variances. That has �o do with what is already is
place. Historically, the original property line was out an
additional 30 feet. Over the history of the property, the land -
for the frontage road was taken out of this original property as
a road access easement. That is how it became not in compliance.
Mr. Rlein stated the owner has purchased some additional property
behind the site. That land measures approximately 200 feet x 700
feet going all the way back to old Central Avenue. He is also
negotiating with Brick Brothers building owners to swap some of
that land so that he ends up with a parcel of equal size running
along the back property line. If this can be done, he would then
develop that piece of property. If they are required to put
conarete curb along the back property line today, that might have
to be changed in one or two years when the property is expanded.
As part of a phased construction, the second phase is expected to
be done in a year or two. The owner wants to set up an inside
service write up area which they anticipate would require a
second addition of 3,000 to 5,000 square feet. There would then
be reconstruction of the curb line and relocation of the curb
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cuts along Fireside Drive. They would like additional time to
plan this second addition and the reconstruction of the back
parking lot. The owner would like the staff report to be amended
to allow him additional time to either meet the present setback
along Fireside Drive and to meet the curb requirements along the
west and east property lines with respect�to how the rest of the
property may develop. The owner has requested three to five
years to plan this out.
Mr. Klein stated the north property line has chanqed from the
original. Six additional feet were purchased along the north
side of the property. There is a fence line between Kurt
Manufacturing and Friendly Chevrolet and that fence line is on
the property line. They ask that they be given an opportunity to
seed a variance with respect to the setback and the curbing along
the north property line. They are proposing to curb the entire
west property line from corner to corner but they would like to
have the opportunity to request a variance for the setback.
Mr. Klein stated, regarding stipulation �3, they would be happy
to re-submit a landscape plan to show additional plantings along
the frontage road.
Mr. Newman stated stipulation #4 raises the issue of curb cuts
and the fact that the petitioner does not know what the future
plans will be.
Mr. Klein stated this was correct. A3.ong Fireside°Drive, he
realizes there are deficiencies. They would ].ike an opportunity
to sit down with staff to work out a plan where they can
accomplish curbing and landscaping and also look at the nature of
the property, how they think the property will develop over time,
and work out a plan that works for all. Using the 20 foot
setback as recommended would result in a net loss of 90 ca=s from
the property. They would virtually lose one row of cars along
Fireside Drive if the 20-foot setback were enforced. They would
like an opportunity to work with staff in developing this service
write up addition, findinq where the curb cuts go, and try to
come up with a compromise plan to minimize the loss of the cars
but still address the City's concerns with respect to the -
landscape boulevard line.
Mr. Klein stated they have no problem with stipulation #5.
Mr. Sielaff asl�ed if it was correct that the petitioner was
proposing delaying curb and gutter on the entire east side and on
the entire south side. •
Mr. Klein stated this was correct.
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Mr. Sielaff asked what the petitioner was proposing for the north
side.
Mr. Rlein etated they would like to delay that or be provided the
opportunity as part of approval to request a variance on that
side. The reason they are requesting this is that neither they
nor Rurt Manufacturing utilizes that green space.
Ms. Savage asked on which stipulation would the petitioner need a
variance before the Appeals Commission.
Ms. McPherson stated this would include stipulations #1 and #4.
Curb and gutter requirement is in the zoning code.
Theoretically, they could come before the Appeals Commission and
asked that this requirement be waived. �
Ms. Savage asked if the petitioner planned to appeal in the near
future.
Mr. Klein stated they were prepared to curb the front this year.
If no variance is granted on the north, they would also do that
this year. Any work along the south and east property lines
would come at a later date with the proposed future addition.
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Mr. Sielaff stated the petitioner had requested three to five
years. Why does it take so long?
Mr. Stelter stated it takes time to generate profits in order to
justify the addition. �
Mr. Klein stated, if they ask for a year, they may be back next
year for an extension. The owner has owned the property in back
for about one year. It may take another year to resolve the
issues associated with the proposed swap.
Mr. Stelter stated the reason for the addition is to get rid of
the trailer house, which was something tiie City had asked them to
do.
Ido comment was received from the public.
Mr. Newman stated, as he understands, stipulations 3 and 5 are
okay. The petitioner is asking, under stipulation �1, the
alternative of obtaining a variance from having to provide the 20
foot setback area. The petitioner would also like to have a
variance from having to comply with stipulation #4 which is the
setback area along Fireside Drive. The issue is that the �
petitioner wants to have the option of asking for a variance from
providing curb and gutter along the north property line and three
to €i�e years to be able to provide curb and gutter along the �"�,
south and east property lines.
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Mr. Rlein stated this was correct.
Mr. Newman stated he would assume that, if the petitioner fails
in getting a variance for the west property line, you will be
prepared to complete that work in a more timely fashion.
Mr. IClein stated this was correct. They would proceed with this
along with the showroom and office addition.
Mr. Sielaff stated he was bothered by the fact that the City has
had proble�ms at this location already. Is three to five years a
commitment to do this?
Mr. Klein stated he thought the owners commitment would be that
in five years, if they had not proceeded with the addition or the
development of that back lot, they would then put in the curb and
gutter along the south and east property line or attempt to
obtain a variance.
Ms. Savage stated she thought the problem of a lack of compliance
was with a previous owner. There has been a history of lack of
compliance so this is a concern.
�, Mr. Newman stated he thought the Commission would be more
comfortable if there was some sort of security to look to in
order to insure compliance. There is a history on this site of
- delayed compliance. There is a problem if, for whatever reason,
the petitioner or a successive owner of that property does not
comply with these conditions, the alternative is to bring
criminal charges or attempt to have the certificate of occupancy
revoked or end up pleading with a successor to perform. Mr.
Newman stated he would feel more comfortable approving the
additional time if they knew there was something they could go to
in the event compliance was not forthcoming.
Mr. Rlein stated the discrepancies have been on the books for 25
years. They bought the property in 1991 and they asked the City
what these discrepancies were. They were told only about the
sprinklers. The City never discussed the setback discrepancies.
He would have to qet the owner's permission to get a letter of
credit.
Mr. Newman stated he fully recognizes the petitioner is a recent
owner. These problems are from the previous owners. Staff has
as a goal to bring nonconforming property up to compliance.
Staff would like this to work for the petitioner, but they also
need assurance that this will happen.
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hearing.
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IIPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTINa AYB� CSAIRP8R80N NEWMAN DLCLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED AND THg ppBLIC gEARING CL08ED AT 8:24 P.M.
Ms. Modig asked, when the petitioner received the permit for the
lighting, why was the setback not brought to their attention
then.
Ms. McPherson stated typically when someone pulls electrical
permits to change the lights, it is not required to submit a site
plan, etc. They work with the electrical contractor. Staff did
not have an opportunity to comment on that change.
Mr. Saba asked if it was true that the setbacks were caused by
the service road and Fireside Drive expansion.
Ms. McPherson stated she could not speak to that. There was no
discussion in the address file regarding any taking by the City
in terms of the frontage road or Fireside Drive. Staff would
r►eed to do further research. She did indicate she would be
willing to look at that as an issue prior to the City Council
meeting.
Mr. Sielaff stated he is leaning toward tabling this until staff
can get assurances. The people who can do that are not here. If
the petitioner seeks variances, this could continue on.
Ms. McPherson stated she believed the commission could move this
request forward by amending the stipulations. Stipulation �1
could say, n. .. to meet the 20 foot hard surface setback or
apply for and receive a variance to maintain the existing
setbacks." Assuming if they did not receive a variance, they
would then be required to improve the boulevard area to the 20
foot setl�ack.
Mr. Sielaff asked what about the curb and gutter issues and the
three to five year time frame.
Mr. Newman asked the history of compliance with the current owner
of this property.
Ms. McPherson stated the current owner has been very compliant to
work with. He has gone through the process for the trailer
permit. There was an extension to the trailer permit license to
have additional time for this proposed expansion plan and he is
coming in within the time frame that he stated before the City
Council. The City has not had any complaints. She received no
phone calls regarding the request this evening. Mr. Moody have
been very cooperative with the City.
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Mr. Newman stated h� was not comfortabie with a five-year time %"1.
frame but he could go with three years. Before going to the City
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Council, perhaps the petitioner could work with staff to develop
assurances that this will be done within three years. That would
move the request forward. The Planning Commission can address
the issue of security and make the Council aware of it.
Mr. Saba stated he was comfortable with that as well as working
with staff on the time period for curb and gutter prior to the
Council meeting.
Ms. McPherson stated the Commission could add a stipulation #6
that would require some type of performance bond or security.
Staff could then work with the petitioner to come up with some
type of accommodating in that regard.
Mr. Newman stated he preferred the work assurances. Although
there is a 25 year history of non-compliance, that is not the
case with this owner. Staff may feel comfortable with other
assurances.
Mr. Newman suggested the following stipulations:
1. The boulevard area along the front of the property (facing
Highway 65) shall be expanded to meet the 20 foot
�� hardsurface setback area unless the applicant obtains a
variance for the same.
2. The petitioner shall provide curb and gutter along the west
perimeter and the north perimeter of the parking area except
where they may obtain a variance therefrom.
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3. The petitioner shall install additional street trees along
the center part of the boulevard area.
4. No cars shall be displayed in the boulevard.
5. The petitioner shall provide curb and gutter along the east
and south perimeter of the parking area within three years
of the issuance of the special use permit.
6. The petitioner shall expand the boulevard area along
Fireside Drive to meet the 20 foot hardsurface setback and
provide the required landscaping, a three foot berm or
hedge, to provide screening for the adjacent residential
property; which work shall be completed in three years
unless the petitioner obtains a variance therefrom.
7. All items, except for those that have a three year qrace
period, shall be completed prior to the issuance of the
certificate of occupancy.
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8. Prior to going to the City Council, the petitioner shall
work with staff to come up with reasonable assurances that
those items not completed at the time of the issuance of the
certificate of occupancy will be completed within the time
period as provided.
MOTION by Mr. Sielaff, seconded by Ms. Modig, to recommend
approval of Special Use Permit, SP �96-04, by Roger Moody of
Friendly Chevrolet, to allow automobile agencies selling or
displaying new and/or used motor vehicles in order for a
showroom/office expansion, generally located at 7501 Highway 65
N.E., with the following stipulations:
l. The boulevard area along the front of the property (facing
Highway 65) shall be expanded to meet the 20 foot
hardsurface setback area unless the applicant obtains a
variance for the same.
2. The petitioner shall provide curb and gutter along the west
perimeter and the north perimeter of the parking area except
where they may obtain a variance therefrom.
3. The petitioner shall install additional street trees along
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4. No cars shall be displayed in the boulevard.
5. The petitianer shall provide curb and gutter along the east
and south perimeter of the parking area within three years
of the issuance of tMe special use permit.
6. The petitioner shall expand the boulevard area along
Fireside Drive to meet the 20 foot hardsurface setback and
provide the required landscaping, a three foot berm or
hedge, to provide screening for the adjacent residential
property; which work shall be completed in three years
unless the petitioner obtains a variance therefrom.
7. All items, except for those that have a three year grace
period, shall be completed prior to the issuance of the
certificate of occupancy.
8. Prior to going to the City Council, the petitioner shall
work with staff to come up with reasonable assurances that
those items not completed at the time of the issuance of the
certificate of occupancy will be completed within the time
period as provided.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALI, VOTINt� AYE, CHAIRPERSON NEWMAN DECLARED '
T�E MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY. �""�
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Ms. McPherson stated the City Council would consider this request
at their meeting of April 22.
4. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL IISE PERMIT. SP
#96-05, BY MENARD. INC.:
Per Section 205.15.O1.C.(3) of the Fridley City Code, to
allow agencies selling or displaying recreational vehicles,
boats, and marine equipment, machinery, manufactured homes,
or other si.milar enterprises having merchandise in the open
and not within an enclosed structure, generally located at
965 - 53rd Avenue N.E. (the Menards property).
Mr. Hickok stated the four special use permit requests are
related to Menards interest in purchasing the Skywood Mall. The
Skywood Mall is adjacent to and south of Menards as it exists in
the southeast quadrant of I-694 and Highway 65. Two special use
permits are for Skywood Mall and two are for the existing Menards
facility.
Mr. Hickok stated Special Use Permit, SP �96-05, deals with the
outdoor display of inerchandise on the Menards property. Special
Use Permit, SP #96-02, deals with the outdoor unscreened storage
of materials and equipment at the Skywood•Mall property. Special
� Use Permit, SP #�6-07, deals with the outdoor display of
merchandise at the Skywood Mall property. Special Use Permit, SP
#96-06. deals with unscreened outdoor storage of materials and
equipment on the Menards property.
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Mr. Sielaff, to waive the read3.ng
of the public hearing notice and to open the public hearing.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYS� CHAIRPLRSON NEWMAN DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED AND TSL POBLIC HEARINt3 OPLN AT 8i37 P.M.
Mr. Hickok stated this special use permit is related to the
Menards site located at 965 - 53rd Avenue N.E. and would allow
the outdoor display of inerchandise not within an enclosed
structure. He showed photos of the site. �In the southwest
corner of the site is an existing screening fence. Above that
fence is material that is stored and is visible. Along the
front, merchandise is stored in the open. Along the northwest
corner of the building is displayed yard barn structures which
are displayed in the open. Menards has a fenced enclosure which
has outside storage of materials. The materials visible abo�e
that fence is considered outdoor storage of materials.
Mr. Newman stated, to clarify, that this public hearing is for
the merchandise displayed in front of the building.
� Mr. Hickok stated this was correct and also��includes any
merchandise behind the building that can be seen from adjacent
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properties or the public right-of-way. This would include items
stored above the fence.
Mr. Newman stated the second permit deals with what is stored
behind the fence.
Mr. Hickok stated yes. That deals with items stored outside
which could include pallets, equipment, etc.
NI�. Sielaff asked if the pallets is a large part of the outside
storage.
Mr. Hickok stated it is fairly large. There are pallet racks
which are which are considered outdoor storage. These are not
merchandise but meant to facilitate the merchandise. Along the
north wall, there are materials stored above the screening fence.
Mr. Hickok stated this is an existing facility with existing
conditions. At the time a modification is made to an existing
facility, it causes the entire site to go through an evaluation
to review the compatibility of the proposal. This case is
related to Menards' interest in purchasing the Skywood Mall and
modify the rear storage area between the two buildings to open
contiguous storage behind Menards and behind the mall structure.
Mr. Hickok stated the City has a reasonable degree of discretion
in determining the suitability of certain designated uses on the
public health, safety and general welfare. The City may consider
the nature of the land upon whi�ch the uses are to be located, the
nature of adjoining land and buildinqs, the effect upon traffic
into and from the premises and on adjoining roads, and such other
facilities that the City shall reasonably be affected by such -
use.
Mr. Hickok stated the current site is zoned C-3. Menards has
been in that location since 1974. At the time they located on
the site, the zoning was C-2S. The zoning has changed and now
causes the site to be reviewed as a result of the proposed
modification. Zoning is defined as a municipalities ability to
control the compatibility of land uses through land use
regulation. �
Mr. Hickok stated, as staff analyzed the site, they looked at
surrounding natural features and considered the impacts of the
outs.ide storage of inerchaindise. One of the natural features
considered was the natural elevation of the storage area at the
base of the hill. As you move to the east, there is a drastic
increase in elevation toward the single family residential area.
The natural features include a severe grade change and woodland
v.egetation that helps separate the existing use from the
residential area to the east.
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Mr. Hickok stated the significant difference in elevation causes
a distinct difficulty in the ability to fully screen merchandise
outside or items being stored outside in the rear storage area.
With the difference in elevation and the fact that outdoor
storage can cause additional noise to.the surrounding area, can
create impacts of light and glare, can cause unsightliness from
merchandise and materials being stored outdoors, cause conflicts
with physically challenged individuals, can compromise the safety
of the materials themselves, can compromise enjoyment of the
surrounding property, and a potential aesthetic decline
associated with outdoor unscreened storage and display.
Mr. Hickok stated staff is recommending denial of the request.
In the event that this project does not move forward, the
existing conditions on the site would remain. Any modification
would cause the current standards to prevail.
Mr. Newman stated, if this pernait were denied and expansion did
not occur, this wauld not necessarily prohibit the petitioner
from conducting business as they do today.
Mr. Hickok stated this was correct.
,--� Mr. Newman asked, when dealing with outside display, does this
include items that are in front of the store as well.
Mr. Hickok stated yes.
Mr. Newman asked if there was a natural screen of the building
itself in front.
Mr. Hickok stated, if the only area of concern was the
residential area to the east, the buildinq as a screen would be a
good argument. But, if looking at all perspectives including
that as you drive by the site, those views would be considered as
well.
Mr. Newman asked if other retailers have wanted outside display.
What has been the City's practice?
Mr. Hickok stated other retailers have requested outside display.
The City has a standard policy of stipulation.that no outdoor
storage happen outside of the structurea such as garden centers.
In previous requests by Home Depot and Wal-Mart for their garden
centers, sales and display is to be confined within the garden
center. Other "big box° commercial properties who have expressed
outdoor display have not been allowed. One small commercial
property that sells snowmobile trailers has been permitted to
have those outdoors. Their situation is quite different. They
�'—` have an area back from the pedestrian way.
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Mr. Soltau, an owner from Skywood Mall, stated they are currently
under contract with Menards. He has some degree of difficulty in
addressing these issues four separate times. He asked if the
Commission would be voting on the requests separateiy.
Mr. Newman stated he thought they needed to vote on the requests
separately. He thought they would conduct all the public
hearings, discuss the requests, but vote on them separately. He
is comfortable with the petitioner giving one presentation, and
those comments can be reflected in the following�public hearings.
Mr. Soltau introduaed Mr. Malkerson, Mr. Colby, and Mr. Conlin.
They would like to provide an appreciation of the evolution of
this property Both historically and today, why they are here with
Menards, why they think this is proper utilization of the
property, and the benefits that will be derived.
Mr. Malkerson, attorney for Mr. Soltau of the Skywood Mall,
stated he thought it would be beneficial to expedite the hearings
and to get clarification of some of the leqal aspects. He
thought the applicant was somewhat surprised when he received the
staff report. Based upon private meetings, he thought that it
would get a positive recommendation from staff. At this time,
they are trying to figure out what they can do to get the support �,�
of the staff, the Planning Commission, and the neighborhood.
Mr. Malkerson stated, as he understands it, there_are two
parcels. To the north is the existing Menards building and in
the back is a fence with�some storage. As he understands the
presentation of staff, the storage that is outside the building
and outside the fence is the subject of the first hearing.
Mr. Hickok stated this hearing includes�merchandise stored
outdoors whether inside or outside the fence.
Mr. Malkerson stated, if he assumes that no materials could be
viewed above the fence, that behind the building where there is a
fence all materials were below the top of the fence,.they would
not need a special use permit for future use.
Mr. Newman stated they would not need a special use permit for
the issue of storage according to the originai C-2S zoning on the
property. For the question of expanding outside display, they
would still need a special use permit for exterior storage.
Mr. Malkerson stated anytime material is outside, even though it
is fully screened by a fence, it still needs a special use
permit.
Mr. Newman stated this was correct. �
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Mr. Malkerson stated he did not agree. As he understands it,
there is the Menards building and the rear storage area. Menards
is proposing to purchase the property next door and have an
operation there with fencing and outside storage in the back. It
is his understanding that Menards is asking that, if they expand,
that they can put some materials outside here as they have on the
existing site.
Mr. Hickok stated the outdoor storage would pertain to anything
they would have outdoors. If staff were recommending approval,
he would talk about and stipulate what would be on the sidewalk
out front, any merchandise that can be seen from the right-of-way
or adjacent properties that is outside on the Skywood property as
well as Menards.
Mr. Malkerson stated he did not think, if Menards acquires the
second parcel, that this is an expansion of a nonconforming use.
He believes it is stand alone. They happen to be side-by-side
but, if they get a permit for the second, he thought they were
unrelated as it relates to an expansion of a nonconforming use as
to an existing building on a separate site.
Mr. Malkerson stated, on the conditional use standarda, as he
,�-.� understands the law, when a use is� �llowed under the
Comprehensive Plan, that although'there are some pretty general
standards, it really is not the their duty to prove that they
comply with the use. IInless there are specific standards that
call out decibel levels, etc., it is not their burden to meet.
It is the City's burden to show that they don't meet the
standards. They are here to do whatever they can to try to bring
about a change to existing Menards structure and use to make a
better situation for everyone. That is the attitude they bring
forward. They need to get some direction before they proceed.
Mr. Newman stated, if the applicant is desirous to continue this
hearing based on the statement that the recommendation in the
staff report came as a surprise, if you need additional time to
address these comments or to.work with the neighbors, that is
something the Planning Commission is willing to consider. _
Mr. Malkerson stated they were there to find out what it will
take to make the City feel comfortable with however this should
be done and to make the neighborhood feel comfortable too.
Otherwise, Menards will continue to do what is has been doing.
Frankly, if Menards does not e�and, you will see continuation of
the second building area as being one with vacant stores and
vacant office space which is not good for the City or the
neighborhood.
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intentions and answer any questions. They are hoping to purchase
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the Skywood Mall to enable them to expand their operations.
Currently, Menards is bulging at the seams. This is one
opportunity to get more room to spread out and get the piles down
by bringing indoors some materials currently outside. The
Skywood Mall area is approximately 70,000 square feet. Their
intention is to make about 40,000 square feet into a drive
through warehouse for their buildinq materials and to remodel the
front portion to allow for 30,000 aquare feet of retail space
other than Menards. The area would not likely lose all the
retail that is there. They would move the tenants that are there
to the front to give them visibility and to give them some
traffic and success.
Mr. Colby stated the requests go hand-in-hand. There are things
they would like to do with the existing facility to upgrade it
and make it more functional. Their track record has not been the
best and they are here to rectify that. He understands some
changes need to take place. He did not think it was possi.ble for
them to do everything to satisfy everyone�s needs, but they would
like to take steps in the proper direction.
Mr. Colby stated, along the north side of the existing facility,
they would like to replaae the existing fence with a wooden fence
along the north and east sides of the existing �+�lenards building, ,,�
alang the back of the Skywood Mall and bring it back up to the
building. The fence is 14 feet high storage and screening fence. -
The backside is pressure treated lumber. The inside has racks
for storage. The fence will have a roof so material cannot be
stored any higher than the roof. By putting this around
basically three sides of the facility, it helps curb some of the
concerns of the visibility of materials. The fence is
mechanically fastened to a concrete slab so it stays straight. �
Mr. Colby stated for the expansion into the Skywood Mall, they
would be taking down the fence that currently exists between the
Menards store and the mall, open the area between the two
facilities, demolish the existing two-story office area, and
upgrade the front of the existing Skywood Mall area to be more
presentable for the new retail spaces.
Mr. Colby stated he understands this will not solve all the
problems. He did not think it was possible to solve all the
problems. Menards will continue to operate there. Their
business in Fridley is quite good and they appreciate the
residents of Fridley. What they are proposing is a step in the
direction of what you are looking to see. This is an improvement
over what is currently there and it will Menards to operate their
facility in a much better fashion and to serve their customers
better. He asked the Planning Commission to consider the
request. They would be happy to consider any suggestions. This �
is not a final but this is what they would like to do.
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Ms. Savage stated, as she understands it, they would not need a
special use permit to purchase the Skywoad Mall if they were not
going to store products outside. The proposal is to consider all
of the outdoor storaqe that would be within the fence as
described.
Mr. Colby stated there would still be outdoor storage. The new
fence would allow more material in the fenced, screened area and
materials in the 40,000 square foot Skywood Mall area, but there
would still be material outside.
Mr. Saba asked if everything would be in the back and not visible
because of the fence.
Mr. Colby stated the materials would not be visible from ground
level, but unfortunately it would still be visible because of the
elevation to the east.
Ms. Modig stated she had seen this type of fence installed at a
Menards in Waite Park. The change in appearance was phenomenal.
She was very impressed by the change.
1�. Colby stated this would be the same type of fence.
�` Mr. Sielaff asked if the petitioner was planning to tear down a
portion of the inall.
Mr. Colby stated the current two-story office area is planned to
be demolished.
Mr. Sielaff stated the plan is then to take out the office area
and the additional space would be used for storage and there
would be outdoor storage behind the existing mall.
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Mr. Colby stated yes.
Mr. Sielaff asked if the space in the mall would then be retail
space.
Mr. Colby stated th�s would be a drive through warehouse space.
For example, plywood would be stored in that building. If you
wanted 20 sheets of plywood, you would pull up to the display,
load what you wanted, and dr.ive away. It is almost identical to
what is being done on the existing site.
Ms. Savage asked, if the special use permits were denied, what
effect would this have on your plans.
Mr. Colby stated they would not�purchase the mall.
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out. For some reason, the center has never done well. Now they
have Menards which is a strong store and has a good business. He
lives above there on the hill about a block away, and he has a
vested interested in the property. In living in that close
proximity, he has not really noticed noise problems from Menards.
In the past, he used to hear some of the trains in the railroad
yard about five miles away. Then the freeway came along. They
now have the freeway noise. Menards is an insignificant noise.
He does not hear the railroad now. He only hears the semis and
traffic on I-694.
Mr. Mortenson stated, as far as addressing the noise of Menards,
he did not know if that would be significant in that area any
more because of the traffic of the freeway. He is in support of
the proposal and thought it would be good for the community. He
showed photos of the existing view from the parking lot of the
hill. Residents have a screen so they cannot see the existing
site. He thought the expansion would benefit Menards and the
community. He thought they would be strong tenants that could
keep the center up and keep it nice.
Mr. Newman stated he realized this was a particularly tricky site
because of the difference of elevation between resident3al and•
� commercial.
Mr. Mortenson stated, when he first moved to that area, there was
nothing but farmland below the hill. The trees were not quite as
thick around his house. At that time, there wais a lot of junk so
it was not that pretty.
Mr. Newman asked if there was any way to landscape the side of
' that hill to block the impact of Menards but wi.thout obstructing
the view the residents currently have.
Mr. Hickok stated there may be some possibilities there. At one
time, Mr. Mortenson indicated he had planted as many as 1,000
evergreen trees of which some remain. It is a difficult slope
with a severe grade. Only certain vegetation will adhere to the
slope in this location.
Mr. Mortenson stated, when he finished the center, the hill was a
problem. He asked City staff to walk the hill and they agreed
that planting trees was probably the best they could do. That
was the year of the drought. There is some natural growth and he
put in some drainage sleuths. There is no drainage problem.
When on a hill, one will see and hear stuff.
Mr. Newman asked if the property line ran up the hill.
i"'1,, Mr. Mortenson stated yes.
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Mr. Soltau stated he will explain how they came to the project,
their enthusiasm for the location, and their frustrations with
some of the site limitations caused by tli'e site characteristics.
He thought the proposed combination of uses is the site's highest
and best use.
Mr. Soltau stated they bought the property is late 1994. This
property has had a troubled history. It has had limited
occupancy both in the original facility and limited success in
the expanded facility, with the exception of the hotel.
Mr. Soltau stated they are excited about Skywood Mall. When
making leasing calls or talking to retailers, he gets excited
about it. There is tremendous density and commercial recognition
along Central Avenue. The area is zoned commercial and should be
zoned commercial. It is at a major interchange. The traffic
counts are phenomenal. There is potential for retail here. The
site is currently under-utilized.
Mr. Soltau stated, when they acquired the property, they felt it
was an opportunity for redevelopment. The interior mall
configuration has not succeeded. It is an unanchored situation
and has had limited success. They see the evolution of this
property as a comb�nation retaining the retail, retaining the �,,,�
existing frontage, utilizing the depth of the building and trying
to bring in "big box" tenants. The mall is very deep. If they
pursue a larqe retailer, they•want the front anci then there is no
opportunity to occupy the back. Retailers look for frontage
compared to the depth. Their objective was to find that first
big user. That big user has one thing that comes with it -
demand for parking. That is a challenge for tiiis site. They
have tried to be creative in ways to redevelop this site, but '
they are against the wall. They cannot provide the parking for
the site if it has retail uses. He does not have a solution for
that. The Ground Round restaurant does not have enough parking
for its current needs. They have 70,000 square feet of building
area, not including the office tower. Other limitations are the
adjacencies. They need the major anchor to get the small
tenants. Menards is a fantastic operation as is the Kelly Inn
but they do nothing to attract the fashion retail tenants. The
adjacencies that are there have created some concern on the part
of the tenants. They cannot do anything about the adjacencies,
the depth or the parking. What can they do with this property?
They have considered tearing it down, razing part of it, and
shifting it back to gain more parking.
Mr. Soltau stated they have a unique situation to work with
Menards, alleviate the parking for what would otherwise be 70,000
square feet of retail, reconfigure the existing retail to a
p�ociuct that is marketable that will work, and reconfigure the
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mix and type of tenants. This has been a degenerating situation
for some time, and they want to turn it around.
Mr. Soltau stated another limitation is viaibility. There is
limited visibility to attract the "big box" user. He did not
think they would be able to get one. When cominq back to the
Menards proposal, they tear down the existing office structure
which has a good portion that is not occupied. Tenants that are
oacupying that space do so because of very favorable economics
and the adjacencies to other retail operations. They do not want
to lose those tenants and can provide space for them.
Mr. Soltau stated one of the conclusions and findings in the
staff report is that there would be a reduction in the tax base.
There has already been a reduction in the tax base. This
property has income producing potentials showing it is somewhat
limited. Revitalization of the site is an opportunity to
increase that base. The other findings that he disagrees with is
that there is opportunity to mitigate because of the elevation
difference. He thought something couid be done. They are all
receptive �o suggestions in that area. The fence itself is
screening. There are other conditions that could be worked with.
They thought this was the best mix and the best use.
� Mr. Soltau stated this is a window of opportunity but they cannot
wait long or they will lose tenants. The tenants want stability
and a new lease. He asked the Planning Co�nmission to consider
. the overall impact on this project is what is best and
appropriate. There is an opportunity to mitigate the problems
because of concerns with the neighbors and this is also an
opportunity to work with the neighbors in the area.
Mr. Newman stated Mr. Soltau had talked about a"big box" user.
Is it feasible that there might be a single tenant that would
take the entire mall.
Mr. Soltau stated he hoped that would happen and has worked on
it. He has a background in this area and has extensive retail
contacts. There are not that many "big box" players out there
and they have contacted them all.
Mr. Newman asked, if you had a tenant such as Best Buy, how many
parking stalls would be needed.
Mr. Soltau stated many of these retailers have needs which are
reflective of the city codes. Most cities have a ratio of
5:1,000. Any retailer will need parking.
Mr. Newman stated he can see that certain big users would need
�'�� more parking than others.
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Mr. Soltau stated Central Avenue is its own commercial area. The
mall is un-anchored. The location is an "in-betweener". The
area is in-between Rosedale, Brookdale and Northtown. There are
trade areas and "big box" users locate in these areas.
Mr. Conlin stated his company is a partner in the Relly Inn.
They share a common wall with the mall. They purchased the Relly
Inn about four years ago. At that time, the hotel had also
failed. It was taken back by the lender, and they purchased it
from lender. They have invested a significant amount of money in
this property. In the meantime, they have turned the property
around. They continue to invest in the property each year to
keep it in first class condition. One of their concerns is.that
over the years the mall has become more distressed. They look at
that as potentially threatening the viability and the continuing
success of the hotel as well as the value of the property. As a
neighbor, they are directly impacted by the use of that property.
He spent some time with Mr. Soltau and Mr. Colby discussing their
proposal and think their plan is very favorable to the situation.
The plans for shrinking the retail and moving it to the front of
building and enhancing the facade would create a better image for
the property overall. They feel it is an excellent proposal.
Their fear is that, if nothing is done, the mall will continue to
deteriorate and will then have an impact of their property.
Mr. Sielaff asked if the hotel had.rooms adjacent to the common
wall with the proposed drive through area for Menards.
Mr. Conlin stated no. There is some separation between the
areas.
Ms. Engebretson stated theiY property is adjacent to the Skywood
Mall. They have been residents for 32.years. She has seen
changes. When the mall was built, she came home to find that
bulldozers had been in her yard. She was told the mall would be
close to Central Avenue and a 40-foot buffer was the grade of the
hill. She does have problems with the fact. She cannot say she
had been as directly impacted by Menards but she would be
impacted if Menards moved behind the mall. It is hard to believe
but they can hear conversations that take place in the parking
lot. These are normal conversations that take place outside
which will hit hill and the sound carries right up. She does not
know how one could screen that. That is just the way the
landscape is.
Ms. Engebretson stated she has concerns about the impact of the
lighting. How are you going to control the light from going up?
She is already dealing with the lights from the motel which are
at eye level. She has invested"in her home by adding an
addition. She does not need to turn the lights on because of the
light from the motel. She has invested in her prop�rty thinking
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that what they have down there is now cont�ined under a roof.
Now they are talking about outside storage that will bring
traffic to the back of the mall. She is concerned about exhaust
fumes and the impact that will have on them.
Ms. Engebretson submitted a petition signed by the members of the
neighborhood. The objections listed included the lighting. Rear
lighting of buildings illuminates the surrounding area and the
residential homes above. The noise is a concern. Menards is a
12-hour a day, seven day a week operation. There is no rest.
After coming home after work, they can open their windows and
listen to the rooftop air conditioning units, the backup beepers
of fork- lifts and semis, vehicles with doors and tailgates
slamming. Now, they are invading even more her right to come
home to her castle.
Ms. Engebretson stated the issue of fire has not been addressed.
There will be a partition dividing the area. She presumed there
would be one way in so emergency vehicles can only enter on each
side and not be able to complete drive through. This needs to be
addressed. Menards has had a fire which was contained. Menards
will be dealing with flammable materials. Cinders tend to rise.
The hill in the fall is dry.
Ms. Engebretson stated debris and spillage of wrappers
concern. She was not sure, if more is stored outside,
could promise them. You talk about a.distressed area.
about the value of the homes? They now not oniy have
distressed shopping center but will this now start on
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Ms. Engebretson stated, in the past, there have been requests for
outdoor special use permits, requests for trailer sales, and a
request for a bumper car business tZiat were denied. She thought
this was a piece of property that is overdeveloped. It cannot
manage what is presently there. The side roads were not designed
to carry the current level of traffic. She is concerned about
water flow. When the motel went in, she asked what would happen
to all that rain. She was told the roof pitch would handle the
water. There is no water on the roof but now there is drainage
on 52nd which cannot contain the water. The water overflows into-
the street. In the winter, it ices up and creates a very
slippery intersection. Now they are proposing more outdoor
storage with more blacktop and more runoff.
Ms. Engebretson stated she felt bad that the shopping center has
not taken off. People do not want to enter because there is
already a traffic situation. She feels bad for Menards. She
understands why they want to expand but she also wonders if it
!^� would be easier to go else�here where there are not so many
obstacles. She also understood that they are proposing to cut
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into the hill 20 feet. It has taken them 32 years to get the
hill under control to prevent erosion. Their fence went down in
the first ten years due to erosion. Sumac was planted on the
hill and she now has sumac in her yard. They do not have a very
good feeling for what they have been promised in the past and
what they have gotten. She hoped the neighborhood would be
considered and the request be denied.
Mr. Newman stated he got.a sense from the comments that Ms.
Engebretson might be more willing to accept this project if more
of the issues were addressed.
Ms. Engebretson stated addressing the problems is one thing;
making them work is another. They have always been told it is
workable. The neighbors have given up a lot. They have worked
out some things. It has made an impact on their lives. A motel
is not a business where it is constantly going. Menards busy
time is summer when residents want their windows open. You can
address the issues and come up with workable solutions, but to
guarantee that you can enforce those is another thing. Companies
can agree but do not do.
Mr. Newman asked Mr. Hickok if the hill would be cut back 20
� feet.
Mr. Hickok stated the hill is proposed to be cut back 20 feet at
the back of the mall where it meets the Relly Inn from the point
where the curb currently exists. Moving to the north of the
mall, this will be reduced to approximately5 feet. A retaining
structure and fence combination is proposed.
Mr. Newman asked the height of the retaining wall.
Mr. Hickok stated the height would vary depending on the slope
between two feet and eight feet. The storage fence structure
will be no more than 14 feet. The screening wall will not be
more than six feet above that.
Mr. Petron stated he occupied the residence whose property abuts
Menards directly to the east and to the south. He has lived in -
the neighborhood for 26 years. He would like to comment on the
noise. He can honestly say that any noise that Menards has made
has been no more disturbing than his neighbor mowing the lawn or
doing any other outside work. He was at one time concerned about
fire. There was a fire at Menards, but it was handled well. He
has confidence in the fire department. There is no more noise,
as far as he is concerned, from Menards yard than there is from
I-694 that he has to deal with. It is difficult to sit on the
deck and carry on a conversation. In 26 years, they have used
their deck probably a dozen times. He is concerned about the �
mall being vacant. He did not think anythi�ng is more ugly in the
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neighborhood than seeing empty buildings. When driving by and
seeing empty building, people say the neighborhood is getting run
down. He is part of the neighborhood and is concerned about
that. He would support the application.
Mr. Delich stated he lives behind the mall and has lived there
for 30 years. He was the first renter in the mall when it was
built. His problem is that he is at the highest point on the
hill and would be lookinq down into their yard. He wondered just
how junky it will be. The map sent out was very poor. He would
liked to have seen where the storage would be and what would be
covered and not covered. Behind his lot is a buffer strip of 75
feet which comes to his lot line where there should be nothing.
He is concerned about the noise. He felt the noise could be
limited. They come in on-nights and Sundays and unload
merchandise. He thought there should be a limit on emptying
trucks at night. They are adjacent to a residential area and
this should be limited. The big concern for him is looking down
and seeing what is in that area. Will this be a conglomeration
of all kinds of stuff without a system? He stated he can live
with almost anything, but they must keep our neighborhoods. If
they have to sell their home, he would like to get a good price
and not have it devalued. .
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Mr. Newman asked Mr. Delich is he thought the proposed 14 foot
fence would be an improvement over what is there now.
Mr. Delich stated it would be an improvement over what now
exists. There is nothing now behind Skywood Mall except garbage
which is a problem. He also has a hedge that blocks some of the
view. The fence will not make much difference to me. He can see
the top of the building which is horrible looking with the air
conditioning units, but it is necessary for commercial so he can
live with it.
Mr. Saba stated it sounded as though Mr. Delich was seeking
order.
Mr. Delich stated that and noise are the factors for him. The
lights are not a problem because they do not shine on his
property. Ms. Engebretson is at a lower elevation so it is a
problem for her.
Ms. Matthews handed out copies of letters which represents a 22
yea� history of promises. It is difficult for her not to be
emotional about this because it has been 22 years to try to get a
noise barrier in. She lives right above Menards and the noise
travels up the hill. She can hear voices and the forklifts. The
issue is the outside operation �and the noise. The problem is
�'� worse with e�ended hours. Menards is now requesting more of the
same only moving down the block. The neighbothood needs
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cooperation from Menards - not just words. They need a written,
legally binding agreement signed by Menards, the City and the
neighbors for a sound wall. In 1988, the noise issue was
reviewed and a sound barrier recommended. She had plans from
Menards to reduce th� noise and plans for storage sheds with
roofs. A sound barrier would have to be 28 feet tall in order to
reduce the decibel level. None of this happened. It has been a
long battle. They have tried to cooperate and have not had very
good living above Menards.
Ms. Modig asked if the sound wall was installed.
Ms. Matthews stated no. Some of the other neighbors who did not
object to the noise live further away. They do not live right
there.
Mr. Job stated he is concerned about cutting 20 feet into the
hill. Only 40 feet separates them now so that is half the
distance. The few trees at the base of the hill will be gone.
With a 14-foot wall cut 20 feet into the hill, what will they be
looking at? This will not block out noise. He can hear voices
from the parking lot and he lives behind the iaall. He works for
a realtor and he knows what will happen to the property values on
Taylor Street. Trees will help block some of the noise. As you
go down the hill, there are trees but, if cutting into the hill,
it will be a disaster for the people on Taylor Street.
Mr.yNewman stated he wanted to address the concerns about the 40-
foot distance beinq reduced to 20 feet. He asked staff to
indicate where that is located.
Mr. Hickok stated the illustration shows 100 feet from the curb
line to the rear property line of the Skywood Mall. 20 feet
would be into the slope.
Mr. Sielaff asked the reason for cutting 20 feet into the slope.
Mr. Hickok stated doing so would square off the proposed area
behind the mall.
Mr. Job stated 20 feet will be a big difference. What assurances
to the neighborhood will they have to not want another 20 feet in
the future? This is a concern. People purchasing property in
this area will be concerned as well.
Mr. Hickok stated the petitivner may be able to address that.
The fence line as it is proposed follows the contour at the base
of the slope which brings them close to lining up with the
existing Menards corner. There�is a cut in the curb line to the
south and this then follows a contour to match up with the
existing fence at Menards.
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Mr. Sielaff asked if it could be closer to the building.
Mr. Hickok stated it could be closer to the building. The
maneuverability of vehicles may then be a concern.
Ms. Modig asked, if someone owns property that abuts the Menards
or Skywood Mall property, is there anything that says they cannot
build up to the hill to within a few feet of the prope=ty line.
Mr. Hickok stated, if the building could be supported
structurally, they could do so. The code would allow that.
Ms. Modig asked if they would need a special use permit to do
that.
Mr. Hickok stated, if this special use permit were granted, the
modification as�suggested would require them to go back through
the process. There is a way to prevent that from happening.
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Mr. Sielaff, to receive into the
public record a Petition to Request Denial in the Granting of
Special Use Permits, SP #96-02, 05, 06 and 07 to the Said
Property known as the Menards Property and Skywood Mall Property
i"1 as described in the legal notices.
IIPON A VOICTs VOTT, ALL VOTINa AYE, CBAIRPER80N NBWMAN DLCLARLD
THE MOTION CARRIED DNANIMOIIBLY.
MOTION by Ms. Savage, seconded by Ms. Modig,,to receive into the
public record the packet of information as provided by Ms. Mary
Matthews, which included a letter from Minnesota Pollution
Control Agency dated 7/7/88, draw3ngs, and letters from City
staff.
IIPON A VOICE VOTL, ALL VOTINa AYl:, CHAIRPERSON NEWMAN DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIISLY.
Mr. Zemke stated he lives on.the edge of one of the ravines that
Ms. Matthews talked about. In the summertime, he wakes up on
weekends to the stacking of lumber and the conversations that are
going on at Menards. In the winter, he can see into the Menards
lot. An additional six feet of fence will not do anything. They
will still be able to look directly down into the lot. The
height of the fence would have to be phenomenal to block out the
view and the sound. If you allow the proposal to go through, it
will be the same all the way down the block. Everyone will be
looking into the lumber yard. There will be noise that will go
right up the hill.
'� Nir. Nunemaker stated he is not adjacent to the properties. He is
asking about the position he would be in as a tenant of the
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Skywood Mall office complex. They have maintained an office in
that building since 1984 and have operated without a lease for
the past three or four years. He represents the Midland Co-op
Credit Union. This issue came up last month at their meeting
when they learned of the proposal for Menards to purchase the
property and demolish the office complex. Without a lease, where
do they stand as tenants? If everything is granted, how much
time would the tenants have to look for other office space or
what are the plans to provide something for them? They have been
told a space would be provided. They don't know what it would be
like to have an office in the front of the Skywood Mall and
traffic and lumber loading to the rear.
Mr. Newman stated this is a question the Planning Commission
cannot answer. This would best be answered by the owner of the
building. The request is scheduled to go to the City Council on
May 6. If they take final action that night, that would conclude
the City's involvement. The City would need to review the
applications for building permits, etc. It then becomes a
function of how quickly the owner wishes to proceed. It could
move rather quickly.
Mr. Bliss asked how far south the proposed fence would go.
Mr. Hickok stated the new fence would extend to the corn�� �f the
Skywood Mall where it meets the Relly Inn and.extend toward the
hillside. The fence would not be behind the Kelly Inn.
Mr. Bliss asked if semis wot�ld be unloading that far south.
Mr. Colby stated yes.
Mr. Bliss stated he drives by there to go to work. He sees a lot
of trash blowing around. They clear it a couple times a year.
Has this issue been addressed in the past?
Mr. Hickok stated yes, this issue has been addressed.
Mr. Kempe stated he can hear the noise from Menards and he is on
the east side of the street. They can also hear the signals on
the forklifts when they are backing up. In the summer, this goes
on until 7:00 to 8:00 p.m. He does not want to hear any more of
it. It appears to him that, if they are piling things on top of
the fences that they have now, they are not a good neighbor now.
The� are not taking care of the fence now.
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Mr. Parizek stated he has been listening to all of the problems
that have come up from Menards. One of the things that concerns
him is the traffic flow. He has lived there for 31 years. He -
has nearly gotten run over a number of times at the stoplight �
area where they turn in and out of Menards. There are stop signs .
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and people don't see them. Also, the new exit on the west side
where the old ATM machine was located is another area where
customers do not want to stop. In the wintertime, it is
dangerous. He is not against the proposal per se, but he would
like to have some these concerns addressed. He did not know who
would take care of the traffic problems.
Ms. Matthews stated, in the aqreement drawn up with the City 22
years ago, they agreed to the construction of a sound wall,
lights that would shine down, and agreed that Menards would not
extend their hours. If the hours were expanded or naise
intensified, it was to be reviewed. This did not happen. She
feels that the residents did not get a fair shake.
Mr. Delich stated, when they built their house, he understood
there would be a 75 foot buffer between the house and the mall
building. They have talked about cutting�into the bank, building
a wall and expanding the property.
Ms. Engebretson stated she has lived here for 32 years. If
Menards were to take over the mall, what is to say in a few
years, if the Lake Pointe property is developed and the Relly Inn
moved there, that the neighborhood couid be looking at a lwnber
yard expanding across the whole area. She never thought she
would live above a lumber yard. She did not think anyone could
look 10 years out. There is no guarantee that the Relly Inn will
stay if they have an opportunity to move to a more viable
situation. Granting these special use permits could create
further expansion and further deterioration.
Mr. Malkerson thanked the Planning Commissian and the public.
The meeting was a good discussion of the issues. He tried to
take verbatim notes to address some of the issues raised. He
could talk about noise standards. There are State noise
standards. The MPCA has been out and their report showed there
was compliance with the guidelines of the State and City. There
was a question that, if the project is approved and there is
cutting into the hill, could they cut into the hill further. The
answer is no, they cannot because that would part of the approved
conditions of the plans. Perhaps staff would give residents an
open space easement or some other sort of conservation easement
over the balance to assure that this could not happen. There are
other thinqs they could address but, instead of doing that, he
asked that they have an opportunity to come back to see where
they are and answer any questions. He has not seen all of the
information that was submitted at the meeting. If the Planning
Commission's inclination is to deny the request, they will not
ask for a continuance. They do not want to go through this
again. If there is dialogue that they can help with or
conditions discussed that they can respond to, that is the
direction they would like to take.
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Mr. Newman stated he was concerned that, if he is qiven a chance
to respond, then others will also want to do so. Within some
limitation, he will provide a chance to respond if necessary and
he asks that the remarks be very brief. He will also give the
neighbors the same amount of time collectively to respond.
MOTION by Mr. Sielaff, seconded by Mr. Saba, to close the public
hearing.
IIPON A VOICB VOTE� ALL VOTINt3 AYl:� CSAIRPER80N NEWMAN DLCLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE PIIBLIC HEARINQ CLOBED AT 10:45 P.M.
5. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL IISE PERMIT, SP
#96-02, BY MENARD, INC.:
Per Section 205.15.O1.C.(8) of the Fridley City Code, to
allow unscreened exterior storage of materials and
equipment, generally located at 5207 Central Avenue AT.E.
(presently the Skywood Mall property).
6. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. SP
�96-07. BY MENARD, INC.:
Per Section 205.15.01.C.(3) of the Fridley City Code, to
allow agencies selling or displaying recreational vehicles,
boats, and marine equipment, machinery, manufactured homes, .
or other similar enterprises having merchandise in the open . �
and not within an enclosed structure, generally located at •
5207 Central Avenue N.E. (presently the Skywood Mall
property) .
7. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. #96-
06. BY MENARD, INC.: .
Per Section 205.15.O1.C.(8) of the Fridley City Code, to
� allow unscreened exterior storage of materials and �
equipment, generally located at 965 - 53rd Avenue N.E. (the
Menards propertyj.
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Ms. Modig, to waive the reading
of the public hearing notices, to conduct the three public
hearings simultaneously, and to open the public hearing to
consider Special Use Permit requests, SP #96-02, #96-07, and #96-
06.
II�N A VOICL VOTE� ALL VOTINQ AYB, CHAIRPERSON NEWMAN DECLARED
THL MOTION CARRIED AND T8E PIIBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 10:47 P.M.
Mr. Newman stated he would like to have the record reflect that
all of the comments and documents submitted, and all of the
record that was made as part of the public hearing for Special
Use Permit, #96-05, be incorporated by reference into these other
three public hearings. If anyone has an objection to this, �
please indicate so.
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No one present at the meeting expressed an objection.
Mr. Hickok showed photos of the Skywood Mall site. The proposal
is to have the tenants moved to the front of buildings. Staff
anticipates the front face will be modified for those tenants who
will be located to the front of the center. Behind the mall is a
severe slope between the property and the residential area. The
slope is quite open and would require additional vegetation for
screening purposes.
Mr. Hickok stated Special Use Permit, SP #96-02, deals with the
unscreened exterior storage of materials and equipment at the
Skywood Mall. As a proposal comes in, staff ineets with the
developers and recommends what the petitioner must do to move the
process forward and point out what steps are involved. It does
take a full analysis by staff to come to a determination and
provide a recommendation. In the existing Menards building there
is a portion along the southern edge of the building that is now
interior storage space. He believed it was Menards intent to
modify some of the internal space by moving that internal storage
to the mall. The space gained inside the Skywood Mall is not
necessarily to house what had been stored in the rear yard. It
is Menards intent to modify the existir�g internal print of the
!"`1 building into a retail space.
Mr. Hickok stated topography is an issue. The=e is a slope of 1
to 2.2 feet for every one foot of vertical dimension. In other
words, there is about 50 feet of elevation in about 110 �eet.
There is a lack of ability to successfully screen the view of
outdoor materials and outdoor merchandise from adjacent
properties. The petitioner is proposing the removal of an
existing office complex to be used for outdoor starage. A
simiiar request had come to the assessor's attention some years
ago. The assessor did respond that there is a significant
difference in tax generation from outdoor storage to
office/internal retail space. There is no opportunity for rear
inventory receiving for the remaining tenants. The plan is to
put tenants toward the front. Staff is concerned that receiving
for those tenants would be in the front of the facility in the
circulation route also used by customers. Another concern is
increased noise in terms of the rear retail use. Staff has
limited information regarding the use of the outdoor storage
area. The plan is a concept at this time. Staff has limited
information about the new building elevation inciuding customer
circulation for the area behind the mall.
Mr. Hickok stated staff reconunends denial of special use permit,
SP #96-02, due to the findings that the request will cause an
� increase in noise, light and glare, unsightliness of materials
'` from the public right-of-way and adjacent properties, conflicts
with physically challenged individuals on the site, compromised
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safety of individuals and materials, compromised enjoyment of
surrounding property, aesthetic decline associated with outdoor
unscreened storage/display and the decreased tax base as a result
of removing the office space and replacing it with outdoor
storage.
Mr. Hickok stated staff recommends denial of special use permit,
SP #96-07, due to the findings that the request will cause an
increase in noise, light and glare, unsiqhtliness of materials
from the public right-of-way and adjacent properties, conflicts
with physically challenged individuals on the site, compromised
safety of individuals and materials, compromised enjoyment of
surrounding property, aesthetic decline associated with outdoor
unscreened storage/display and the decreased tax base as a result
of removing the office space and replacing it with outdoor
storage.
Mr. Hickok stated special use permit, SP #96-06, deals with
unscreened storage of materials and equipment that can be seen �
from the public right-of-way or adjacent properties. The issues
with the Menards•are much like those of the Skywood Mall property
including topography and the lack of ability to screen the view
from adjacent properties•, increased noise in the rear, limited
information about the use of the rear yard storage area, and �
limited information regarding the rear building elevation and
customer circulation. Also, there is a requirement for a gate
around a petroleum pipeline that exists between the prop�erties.
In our discussions, staff asked for information about builcling
over a gasoline pipeline. our experience has been that pipeline
companies do aerial inspections and they do n�t like landscape
materials or anything of the like over 18 inches high because of
the shadows that are cast. Staff is concerned about surrounding
a pipeline with a gate, any potential hazards that may be caused
by interruption and the ability to get in to that pipeline. The
attorney for Menards responded that they are comfortable with the
stipulations in their easement agreement and feel that what they
are doing would not be in conflict with what they are doing
between the two properties.
Mr. Hickok stated staff recommends denial of special use permit,
SP #96-06, due to the potential of limiting access to physically
challenged individuals a potential for compromised safety of
individuals and the materials stored/displayed, and the potential
of aesthetic decline caused by the outside displays. The
petitioner does have the alternative of integrating the sales
items into their operation in a manner that is consistent with
the other retaiiers.
Ms. Modig stated staff is recommending denial for the same
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Mr. Hickok stated this was correct. If the Planning Commission
chooses to recommend approval of any or all of the special use
permits, they may want to table the issue in order to staff to
lay out mitigating stipulations to address the issues outlined �
and discussed.
Mr. Saba asked how they could do that with the existing track
record. Is there any way to enforce?
Mr. Newman stated he thought the answer is that you have those
options be it financial arrangements to secure performance as
well as a host of other options. Staff does not know why they
did not execute the original agreement.
Mr. Sielaff stated he would like to summarize. As he sees it,
there are those items that are existing and those proposed. SP.
#96-02 is dealing with what is proposed.
Mr. Hickok stated SP #96-02 deals with the Skywood Mall and
anything that is not screened and cannot be viewed from the
adjacent properties. This is only outside. SP #96-07 also deals
with merchandise that is outside at the Skywood Mall property.
� Mr. Sielaf€ stated that SP �96-05 deals with outside merchandise
at the current Menards and SP �96-06 deals with outside storage
at the current Menards.
Ms. Modig asked if there was some way to separate the items
stored inside the fence from those items stored outside the
fence. It seems to be two different issues.
M7r. Hickok stated they can do so through stipulations to identify
what standards would be applied to what materials.
Mr. Newman stated, if the Planning Commission were inclined to
recommend approval, staff could have time to come up with
stipulations. Staff could have one set of stipulations that
would apply to all four requests.
Mr. Newman stated the public testimony received as part of the
previous public hearing will be incorporated into this public
hearing by reference. He asked if anyone frdm the public had any
additional comments or any additional i.nformation to provide.
No additional comments were received from the public.
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Ms. Savage, to close the three
public hearings.
'� IIPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON NEWMAN DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE PIIBLIC HEARIN(� CLOSED AT 11:10 P.M.
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Ms. Savage stated her initial reaction is to recommend denial of
the requests for a number of reasons. First, there is simply an
incompatible use with a lumber yard and a residential area.
There were problems earlier. In the late 1980�s, this was in
front of the Appeals Commission when the sound barrier issue was _
brought up. There have been problems since the 1960's. At this
point, she sees the problems as being compounded by granting the
special use permits. Second, she has a lot of concern about the
precedent for outdoor display. The "big box" retail operations
have all e�cpressed an interest in having outdoor display and the
City has declined. If this is granted, the City will have other
requests. This is not good for the City.
Mr. Saba stated he would be inclined to vote the same way for
those same reasons as well as others. He is concerned about
Menards' past performance or lack of same in dealing with the
City as well as the neighbors. There has been a battle to
enforce past agreements, stipulations, and neighborhood concerns.
While he likes Menards and shops there, he is reluctant ��=.r� go
behind the store. He would hope any improvements they iu:�i�e would
address that situation. He cannot help but feel there could be a
meeting with the neighbors and staff regarding the issues and
come back with a revised plan. He agrees that the intended use
does not seem compatible with the adjacent neighborhood. They �
could come up with another plan with the storage closer to I-694
area. He did not know what the prime layout of that area would
be but he does not agree that the proposal fits into a mall area.
Regarding an agreement, he would like to see that in any .-
additional proposal brought before the Plarining Commission. He
would be inclined to vote against the proposals.
Ms. Modig stated, having seen what Menards did with their store
in St. Cloud and the difference it made in the area, she would be
inclined not to do anything that would eliminate the possibility
that this could happen here. For those of us living in the City,
we have seen how that area is deteriorating and, she thought,
they were losing a lot of potential people because of what is
happening there. She would like to see a separation of what is
outside the fence area from inside the fence area. The City has
told others what we expect them to do. The City did not say they
could not store material outside in a fenced area. The City told
them how high they could store stuff in the fenced area and
allowed one business to have a special use permit until they
constructed a garden area. She did not think they could do that
much less for Menards. It is unfortunate that any of this was
ever built there but the fact is that it is there and, if there
is anything the City can do to enhance it to make it better, we
should do that. You cannot hide a lumber yard from the
neighbors. She would be inclined to table the requests, have the
petitioners meet with staff and the neighbor-hood, and see if �
some of these issues can be resoived. It would be a positive
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thing for the area and for the City." It is not everyone's idea
to have a lumber yard in their backyard, but it is there and
something needs to be done to make it a better area. She is
concerned about the previous lack of response to the sound wall.
She would like to table these items and have staff work with the
petitioners and representation from the neighborhood to come up
with something that would be positive for all.
Mr. Sielaff stated, regardinq the issue of storing merchandise
outside, historically the City has not allowed. He does not want
to diverge from that. This is something the City should not
encourage. Another issue is the outside storage of unscreened
material. They need to have it screened. He is inclined to
recommend denial of the special use permits. Another issue is
the noise and nuisance conditions in that storage area. He did
not think they could do anything about the existing storage area,
but it should be screened. In the proposed area behind the mall,
he is inclined to think there should be no storage at all. He
does not like the idea that the wall is being placed 20 feet back
and that it could potentially go back another 20 feet. He is
inclined to say no storage should be allowed outside the mall,
only inside. As the requests are laid out now, he would be
inclined to recommend denial.
� Mr. Newman stated, in reading the staff report, he thought this
might be an opportunity. The uses are incompatil�le. If the City
Council had �o do it over, the zoning would probably be
different. But, there is outside storage and outside
merchandising and an area that does not provide the kind of
appearance the City wants for the area. In driving down Central
Avenue, he was surprised by the number of vacant buildings. He
is aware of some of the financial concerns of the owners of the
Skywood Mall. There is a history of tension between the
neighbors and Menards, but there is an opportunity from whieh the
City can benefit. He is inclined to table these requests if the
parties could work together. The petitioner seems willing to
work and the neighbors are willinq to work to make it better.
Mr. Newman stated some of his concerns include the issue of
lighting. Downcast lighting can be installed so that the glare
does not impact the neighbors. They cannot control the Kelly Inn
because that is outside this request, but this could be an
improvement at the Skywood Mall and Menards properties. Another
issue is noise. Shrubbery may dampen sound. Other alternatives
including restricting the hours of operation of delivery trucks
and forklifts. He would like to limit the height of yard
storage. Mr. Colby stated storage is to the height of a
forklift. Mr. Newman did not know how high that was, but he does
not want storage any higher than the fence. He would limit the
� outside merchandise display. He thought it was ugly out there.
The City has a concern about precedent in retail areas and, he
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thought the distinction staff can make is that now they have a
lot af nonconforming use that permits them to do outside storage
without restriction. If staff allows them to expand, we can
restrict this outside storage. That miqht distinguish this from
some of the other retailers. There was a concern about drainage
that needs to be addressed. On the issue of enforcement,
unfortunately Mr. Colby's predecessors have not set a good track
record. He suspected that an agreement could be reached that
could be enforceable and the City Attorney could give assurances
to the City Council that the City could enforce. He is concerned
about where they are proposing to cut into the hill and also that
what was a 14-foot fence no longer becomes a 14-foot fence and
perhaps there are some areas where they may need to raise the
height of that fence so that the neighbors can have the same kind
of benefit. There is concern about expansion. Mr. Malkerson
proposed the possibility of a conservation easement. Mr. Newman
was first inclined to restrict expansion by reguiring an
additional special use permit. If it is done by easement, they
cannot expand even if the City wanted to give them a special use
permit. That may be an attractive way to accomplish this. There
is concern about trash and traffic. Traffic is not Menards
problem but he can appreciate the concerns the neighbors have if
people are not stopping for stop signs. He thought the City
could do something through enforcement. Staff raised a very good �
concern about pipelines. This is a private contractual
arrangement with the property owner and the holder of the
pipeline. To a large degree, if the holder is not concerned
about it, he was not sure they should be concerned. The City
should verify the fact that they are comfortable with what is
being proposed. .
Mr. Newman stated there is a whole host of issues there. If the
neighbors and Menards got together with the help of staff, they
could come up with some reasonable compromises recognizing there
will be some instances where people will not be totally happy.
He thought they could improve on the situation. He agrees with
Ms. Modig that this would merit tabling these requests to give
everyone an opportunity.to see if they can work together.
Mr. Sielaff asked Mr. Newman if there may not be a need for
special use permits.
Mr. Newman stated special use permits are needed, but they could
write out conditions to address a number of the concerns.
Mr. Sielaff stated two requests are for unscreened outside
storage so they could screen it but not need the permit.
Nir. Newman stated this is something they have now. He would have
difficulty if the City continues to allow unscreened outside �
storage in front of the Skywood Mall. He did not think they need
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to expand it. Menards is not going to be using that as a store
front for their faaiiity. He did not know if the other users
would be using that for part of their retail. Perhaps the City
can go so far as to get Menards to curtail some of the outside
storage from their present level.
Mr. Sielaff asked, if they put a 14-foot wall on the existing
facility in the back, would that constitute screened storage.
Mr. Newman stated it would be screened storage. But there would
still be the display of outdoor merchandise.
Mr. Sielaff stated his view is that they already have storage in
back. His feeling is that he does not want to improve on what
they have but then the City doesn't want to make it worse by
adding additional storage behind the mall facility.
Mr. Newman stated his guess is that Menards is saying they need
additional space in order to compete.
Ms. Savage stated, if the requests are tabled, it would mean that
some of these issues and concerns are addressed and that could
.improve the current situation. '
Mr. Newman asked if Mr. Malkerson would like to address the .
subject of tabling action on the requests.
Mr. Malkerson stated he thought there was an opportunity to work.
They need to know the concerns in order �o address those
concerns. They are willing to work with staff and the
neighborhood. He would also prefer the request be tabled because
there was much information provided that was not available
before. There is much to be worked out.
Ms. Matthews stated she would go along with tabling because they
worked it out once before.
Mr. Newman suggested consideration of these items be tabled until
the next meeting.
Mr. Colby suggested delaying for one month to be sure the
petitioners are ready.
MOTION by Ms. Modig, seconded by Mr. Saba, to table consideration
of Speciai Use Permit requests SP #96-05, SP #96-02, SP #96-07,
and SP #96-08, subject to the call of the chair.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL oOTIN(� AYE� CSAIRPERSON NEWMAN DECLARED
THB MOTION CARRIED QNANIMOIISLY.�
PLANNING COI�IISSION MEETING. APRIL 3, 1996 PAGE 42 �„�
8. RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
MEETING OF MARCH 4, 1996
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Ms. Savage, to receive the
minutes of the Parks & Recreation Commission meeting of March 4,
1996.
IIPON A VOICB VOTB, ALL VOTI�T(�i AYE, CHAIRPERSON NSWMAN DLCLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED IIrII�1NIMOIIBLY.
9. RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE APPEALS COMMISSION MEETIIdG OF
MARCH 13, 1996
MOTION by Ms. Savage, seconded by Ms. Modig, to receive the
minutes of the Appeals Commission meeting of March 13, 1996.
IIPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON NEWMAN DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED IINANIMOIIBLY.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Ms. Modig, to adjourn the
meeting.
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IIPON A VOICE VOTE� AL7, VOTING AYE,.CSAIRPERSON NEWMA�i DLCLARED.
THE MOTION CARRILD AND T8E APRIL 3, 1996, PLANNIBa COM1KI88ION
MEETING ADJOIIRNED AT 11:37 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Lavonn Cooper
Recording Secretary
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SUMMARY OF REGIUEST:
Simy Architects, Inc. have applied for a speci
Union. The special use permit would allow
lanes at 6303 Central Avenue N.E.
SUMMARY OF ISSUES:
al use permit on behalf of the US Federal Credit
construction of a bank with five drive-through
The zoning on this property is G1, L�al Busin�s. Banks are peimitted by right in the C-1
zoning district A special us� permit, however, is required wherr� a banking iacility includes
a drive-through feature.
A on�story� 7�950 �uare foot ban�c with five drive-through lanes has been proposed. The
site itself has numerous natural feafiur�� ir�luding a jurisdictional we�and at its east property
line. No filling or afteration of the weiiaru! is proposed. B�ause of the rxitive characteristics
of the site� a number of landscape stipulation.s Irave been placed on this proposal.
Anoka Courity has indicated that they oppose iwo access poirrts orrto Cen�al Avenue;
however, staff believes a combination of factors including site constrairrt.s and traffic conditions
in this location warrar�t two driv�nrays.
RECOMMENDATION:
Staff re,commends approval of special use p�rnit requ� SP #96-09, with nine stipulations.
(Stipulatiorls found in body of te�d.)
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Staff Report
SP #96-09, by Sirny Architects, Inc.
Page 2
Petition For.
Location
of Propert�:
Legal Description
of Property:
Size:
Topography:
Existing
VegetatPon:
Existing .
Zoning/Platting:
Availability
of Municipal
Utilities:
Vehicular
Access:
Pedestrian
Access:
PROJECT DETAILS
Special use p�mit to allow construction of a bank with a
driv�through function.
Generally loc�ted at 6303 Central Av�ue N.E.
Lots 17 arrc! 18, Block 2, Spring Valiey
80,640 square fee� 1.85 acres
Flat
Grass, scrub tree.s, wetland vegetation along east edge.
G1, Local Busin�s; Spring Valley
In Central Avenue, or to e�ast properiy line.
Central Avenue
N/A
Engineering Utility connections
Issues:
ADJACENT SITES
WEST: Zoning: CR-1, General Office
SOUTH: Zoning: G1, Local Business
Land Use: Vacant
Land Use: Multi tenant office
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Page 3
EAST: Zoning: R-1 � Single Famity Dw�ling Land U�: Vacant and
- r�idential dwellings
NORTH: Zoning: G1, Local Business and Land Use: Fre station and
R-i, Singie Family Dw�ling single iamily dwe�ling
Comprehensive The zoning and comprehensive plan are consister�t in this
Planning Issues: loc�tion.
Public Hearing To be iaken.
Comments:
Site Planning
Issues:
DESCRIPTION OF REGIU�ST
The petitioner requ�ts � a special u.se p�mit b� issu� to allow constn�ction of a
^ bank facility with a drive�hrough component Banks are a permitted use in the G1,
General Busin�s d'istric� hov�eve.r, iaaliti� with drive-through oomponerrt.s do require
a special use permit The req�rest is %r property generally located at 6303 Cerrtral
Avenue N.E. The subject parcel is la�ted on the east side of Central Avenue
beiween Satell'�te Fre Siation #1 and the Graystar multi tenant office building located
direcUy at the irrtersection of C.entral Avenue and Rice Cree{c Road.
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PARCEL DESCRIPTION/HISTORY
The property is currerrtly vacarrt. The property was previously own� by Richard
Mochinski who filled the property a number of y�rs ago in order to prepare it for
construction of a building. The pr+roperiy has historically been wet There is a
jurisdictional wetlarxi located adjac�nt % the east property line.
In 1986, Mr. Mochinsld filed a rezoning requ�t to rezone the property from G1,
Local Busine,ss to R�, G�eral Multiple Family for a 1�unit attach� townhome
development. That requ�t was de.nied by the City Council. In 1990, Mr. Mochirisld
petitioned for a sp�ial use permit to allow a lodge facility to be constructed on the
property. This would have allowed the Moose Lodge #38 to �ccupy an assembly
iacility. The special use permit request was withdrawn by the petitioner.
Staff Report
SP #96-09, by Simy Architects, inc,
Page 4
The petitioner proposes to cons#ruct a on�story 7,950 square ioot bank iacility with
five drivg-through lan�. The site is d�igned for one-way traffic. The entrarice will
be located on the soutl� side of the facility with the e�dt being on the north side.
ANALYSIS
Zoning District Requiremer�ts
Setbacks
The proposed developmerrt meets all building and paricing setback requirements.
Parking
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The G1 dis�ict requir� 32 parking spac� based on a ratio of one space for every
250 square feet of office use. The petition� is proposing 37 parldng spaces, two of
which are handicapped. The spac� are striped at � d�ree angles, anc! are
located at the south and north sides o# the prope�ty. In addition to the 37 st�ndard
spaces provided by the proposed developm�t, there are 19 additional �acldng �
spac� within the five drive-through lanes. This provides a total of 56 parldng spaces �
on-site. �
Street Access
The petitioner is proposing two street acxess� orrto C�ntral Avenue. The south
acc�s being an entrance�only; the north a�s being an e�dt-only, with #raffic
movemerrts in both the north and south bound direction. A preliminary review of the
proposed site plan by the Courrty has indicated the Courity's preferer�e for one
access orrto Cer�tral Avenue. In order to acxommodate the Cour�ty's pre#erence, the
green area in front of the building would need to be to�ally elimir�ated to provide an
entry drive connecting the loop for access purpose.s. The site layout is constrained
by the presence of jurisdictional wetiands la�ted adjacent to the e�ast properly line.
It is stafPs opinion lfiat the proposed site plan submitted by the petitioner does not
create adverse traffic situation on Cerrtral Avenue. Staff wi11 be meeting with Anoka
Courriy prior to the Planning Commission meeting, and will provide a verbal update
to the commission at the meeting.
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SP #96-�, by Simy Architects, Inc.
Page 5
Noise/Lighting
In reviewing the request, staff discussed the possibility of noise from irrter+com
systems drifting irrto the adjacerrt r�idential district The City C�ie establish�
appropriate decibels t�els which govem.s the use of public address systems,
irrtercoms, v�icles, e�tc. The irrtercoms in use by the proposed iacil'ity cxinnot excce�
those limits establishe.c! in the City Code.
The petitioner propos� iypical lighting standarcJs for the par{dng lot The petitioner's
lighting analysis indicates that a.5 foot c�lle level of light will pass beyond the
north and south property lin�. A.5 foot candle level is not extreme, and the two
properties which will be impacted by this light drift are commercial in r�ature. The
multi tenant office building to the south and the Satellite #1 Fire Station to the north.
This light drift should not cause an adv�se impact to adjacent r�ider�tial properti�.
Landscaping
,� Th� petitioner has submitted a proposed landscape plan. The plan as proposed
does no# meet the requirerner�ts set forth in the G1 district requiremerr�tss. The
petitioner will be required to add an additior�al 13 tr�s, 30'/0 of which are required to
be evergreen. The petitioner is proposing #o use a variety of native wet and dry
plarrt materials adjacent to the e}dsting wetland. Staff would like to review the
proposed speci� list to elimir�at� the possibility of exotic species from being
irrtroduc�! irrto the wetland. Staff also re�mmends the petitione,r cor�traet fior
maintenance of the native plarrt materials for a period of three years. The proposed
honey locust staff would like to see changed to an altemate species of materials. A
screening fence along the north and �st lot lin� must be install� since it abuts R-1
zoning.
Signs
The petitioner is proposing monume.nt style, free-standing signs. adjacent to Central
Avenue. Two of the signs are pro�sed to be ten square feet in area, and are to be
usec! for entry and e�dt signs only. The main identification sign is proposed to be 66
square feet in area (12 feet tall by 6 feet wide). The total square fiootage of signage
on the property is proposed to be 86 square feet. The sign cx�de does not
specifically address errtry and exit signs as a specific sign iype in the c�de. The
code limits the number of fr�-standing signs to one sign per street irorrtage. Staff
would recommend that the errity arxl e�dt_ signs be reduced to four square feet in
^ area to avoid the need for a variance to the sign code r�uiremer�t,s.
Staff Report
SP #9fi-09, by Sirny Architects, Inc.
Page 6
Wetlands
As has been stated earli� in this report, there is a jurisdictiona� wetland located
adjacent to the east prop�ty line. The p�itioner has d�ineated the wetland in
acxordance with delin�tion requirem�rts and has identified wet�and on the site plan.
The pebtioner is avoiding impact to the we�arx! as required under the 1991 Wetland
Consenration Act The proposal therefore is exempt from the requireme�nts of the
1991 Wetland Conservation Acti
Utility Connections
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The pectititioner has been pursuing two options in order to provide utility connecfions to
the proposed development. The water connecaon will occur in frorrt of the proposed
development along Cerrtr�al Avenue. The sanitary sewer connection, however, pose,s
a more difficult connection. There are sanitary sewer mains located both at the frorrt
and the rea�- of the property. Connection at the frorrt of the property would r�uire
removal of fire station driveway and landsc�ping which would be required to be
replaced by the petitioner. Connection to the rear of the prep�ly requires excavation
through the jurisdidional we�and. Eithet� connection loc�tion requires increased costs �
to the petitioner. However, in orci� to avoid impact to the juri�ic�iorral wetland, staff
would recommend t1�t the pe�4tioner vw�rk with the City to connect the sanitary sewer
at the frorrt of the properiy through the fire station drive�nray and landscaping. The
plarrt materials located at the frorrt of 1fie fire station will be easier to replace and
revegetate than the wetland plarrt materials at the rear of the property.
The petitioner has submittExl a prelimir�ary grading plan; hawever, drainage
calculations need to be submitt�l to the Engine.ering Departrnerrt so a�rough
hydrologic analysis can be complet�.
RECOMMENDATION:
The proposed developmerrt meets the requiremerrts of a G1, Local Busine.ss district
regulations. Staff recommends tf�t the Planning Commission reoommend approval of
the proposed plan with the foAowing stipulations:
1. The petitioner shall provide an addi�onal 13 trees to the landscape plan, 30%
of which shall be evergreen.
2. The petitioner shall submit the specific�tior�s for staff revie.�v on prairie plarrt
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varieties.
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Page 7
3. The petitioner shali ctrange the indicated honey locus on the landscape plan to
crab apple or an equal altemate. �
4. The petitioner shali provide mairrtenance of the prairie plans for a minimum of
three years to insure proper growth.
5. The eRhy and exit signs shall be reduced to four square feet in area
6. The petitioner shali submit hydrologic calculations to the Engineering
Departmerrt in order to review the grading aru! drainage plan.
7. The petitioner shall submit a performance bond in the amourrt of 3% of the
construction cost to insure compietion of the outdoor improvemer�ts.
e. The landscape plan shall indicate inclusion of underground sprinkling.
9. The noise level from any irrtercom system shall not exce� the decibel level
set forth in the Fridley City Code.
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10. The peiationer shall install a 6' - e' screening f�ce along the north arxi e,ast
lot lin�� abu�ting the R-1 zoning, starting at the southe�ast comer of the fire
st�tion. .
11. Any expansion of the facil'ity or extension of hows of operation must be
reviewed and approved by the Planning Commission and C'ity Council.
12. Garbage hauling from the site shali not occur before 7:00 am. nor after 7:00
p.m.
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- FEDERAL CREDIT
PROJECT [NFORMATION
NAME and ADDRESS of PROJECT U.S. Federal Credit Union
Fridley Branch
6305 Central Avenue
Fridley, MN 55432
LEGAL DESCRIPTION
Survey available if required Lot 17 and 18, Block 2 Spring Valley,
Anoka, MN
NAME and ADDRESS of APPLICANI', ETC,
Applicant Sirny Architects
Architect Sirny Architects
Owner of Record U.S. Federal Credit Union
DESCRIPTTON of IlVTII�TDED USE
Intended Use
Building Description
Occupancy Type
Occupancy Load
Credit Union facility for members
Includes drive-thru function
Single story, brick exterior (7,950 s.f.)
Financial Institution
68 per State Building Code
EXISTING ZONING & LAND USE ��S
Existing Use Vacant lot
Existing Zoning
C-1
i�J� N I O 11i
612.341.1070
612.341.1070
612.851.5800
Proposed
Credit Union
banking facility
C-1 with Special
Use Permit for
drive-thru function
SIRNY ARCHITECTS • U.S. FEDERAL CREDIT UN[ON • FRIDLEY BRANCH • PAGE i/2
100 UNION PLAZA 333 WASHINGTON AVENUE NORTH • MINNEAPOLIS MINNESOTA 55401
T E L E P H O N E 6 1 Z/ 3 4 1 • 1 0 7 0 • F A C S I M I L E 6 1 2/ 3 4 1 • 2 1 2 4
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SUMMARY of PROJECT STATISTICS
� Size of Pazcel
Gross Floor Area of Building(s)
Percent of Site Covered by Building(s)
Percent of Site Covered by Green Area
Projected Number of Employees
Number of Pazking Spaces Required
Number of Parking Spaces Provided
Height of all Building(s)
Number of Stories
LOT REQUIRENIENTS & SETBAQCS
Minunwn Lot Area
Maximum % of Lot Coverage by Main Bldg.
Main Building Setbacks
Front
Rear
Side
^Sidewalk Adjacent to Residential Property
f andscape Planting Strip
PARKING & DRIVES
Parking Stalls
1 Stall per 250 sq. ft. of Building Occupied
Space
Pazking Setbacks
Side Lot
Rear Lot
To Main Building
Drives
curb openixig
drive aisles
60° minimum angle to road
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SIRNY ARCHITECTS '
80,640 s.f.
7,950 s.f.
9.86%
56.87%
17
27
37
17 ft. at exterior wall
24 ft. at clerestory
1 story
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(incl. 2 ADA stalls)
(no rooftop equip.)
�yu�y� P�ovided
20,000 s.f. 80,640 s.f.
40% (for 1 story building) 9.86°!0
35 ft 35 ft.
2,5 {t 153 ft.
15 ft (except w/ driveway in side yard,
30 ft setback is required)
30 ft.
15 ft. (beyond sidewalk)
Re9uir'ed
N/A
15 ft
Pronided
Occupied Space Factor = 7,950 sf x.85%
= 6,758 sf
6,758 sf = 250 = 27 pazking stalls 37 stalls provided
required
5 ft. (except shazed common drive)
5 ft.
15 ft. adjacent to alley
5 ft
25 ft. (north)
12 ft. (south)
108 ft.
10 ft. (north)
10 ft. (south)
(except at drive-up)
32 ft curb opening (10 ft radius) 32 ft (10 ft radius)
25 f� (18 ft. if one way) 20 ft. (one way)
60° . �°
U.S. FEDERAL CREDIT UNION ' PRIDLEY BRANCH • PAGE 2/2
JOSEPH L. PERKOWSKI
PRESIDENT
(612) 851-5800
March 1, 1996
Mr. Scott Hickock
Planning Coordinator
City of Fridley
Municipal Center
6431 University Avenue NE
Fridley, MN 55482
Dear Mr. H'ickock:
2772 EAST 82ND STREET
BLOOMIIVGTON, MN 55425-1372
I have had discussions with our architect about the necessary eutension of City utilities to ow site.
We are concerned about the significant additional work and cost we may have to sustain. We
believe tha.t City utilities, especially in a City as progressive as Fridley, should be available to the
property owner reasonably adjacent to the properiy.
As you well know, this site has sat vacant for some time, and earlier attempts at development
have failed. At this time, the City of Fridley has been very supportive of ow intentions to build on
this site. In light of tne City's support, we look iorward to operating at our new facility in your
community. However, as part of this site's development, there is also significant site preparation
work in addition to the utility eartensions. There are substantial efforts and costs necessary to
bring the poor soil bearing capacity up to the necessary level. Large portions of the site will
require excavation and removal of 5-14 feet of poor soil and as you know, nea,rly half of the site is
not usable due to the wet lands designation. In light of the considerable costs necessary to
develop a ma.rginal site, we feel that the City should provide utility access at the site's perimeter
andlor R.O. W. as is usually the norm.
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We are pleased with our cuirent location within your community, and this is one of the reasons
why we originally intended to develop tlus particular site. We look forward to improving this site
and being an"upgraded" member of your community, However, we feel that it is not
unreasonable to expect utility access in close proximity to our site. We feel strongly that our �
�--� project will enhance the area. significantly, contribute very positively to the City tax base and give
us the opportunity to better serve our 6,000 members in the azea, many of which reside in the City
of Fridley.
Please call me at your earliest convenience so that we can discuss the issues involved and meet
with you if necessary. -
Sincerely,
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Joseph L. Perkowski
President
CC La.urence Page, Sirny Architects Inc.
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City of Friclley
TO: Michele McPherson, Planning Assistant PW96-Q92
FROM: Jon Wilczek, Asst Public Works Director
DATE: Apri124, 1996
SUBJECT: Federal Credit Union Construction Site - 6355 Central Ave
The projects fits in well with the area as far as traffic cixculation and land use grade. There are
two areas of concern. The first is utilities.
Although the watermain is easily accessible from the front and there is a service valve located
at the south property line of Fire Station No. 2, the sanitary sewer poses some problems. The
sanitary sewer is either available at the back of the property or at the front of the Fire Station
property: If the developer decides to connect into the sanitary sewez at the front of the property i-�
(west side af the property) it would require excavating in front of the Fire Station This would
result in the loss of the road, the landscaping and the parking lot and driveway of� the Fire Station,
all of which would have to be replaced in as go�i or better.cohdition than existing. If the
� contractor chflse to connect into the sewer at the ba:ck, this would result in a short term disruption
of an existing wetland plus long term effects being the loss of 6 or 7 medium to small size trees.
No matter where the a sewer connection is mads, the excavator will have to deal with a high
water table. It is noted that the surface elevation of the sewer.in the back is approximately at the
same surface elevation as in the fro�t of the properiy.
The seEOnd azea of concern is that although the developer has shown retention ponds to protect
the wetlands, they do not seem to have the capacity to affect any type of detention and therefore
protect the area from higher water levels than are existing. The developer did not provide me
with any calcs for the pond, but just by the depth and general geometry, it does not appear they
will result in enough detentidn to meet City Code. This could enhance the apparent water
problem in the back yards of the Dahlberg's and Schwartz's. To gain some type of detention area,
it may be requi.red that the developer do some more excavating in the rear part of this lot. Rather
than building up to create ponds which has resulted in some filling of the low lands, he would
have to excavate down. If the developer chose to hook the sanitary sewer service in the rear we
could enhance the �ater storage capacity in back of the property by doing some swaling. This
would help to alleviate the apparent problems in the back yards of the Schwartz's and
Dahlberg's.
If you have any questions and/or comments, feel free to contact me.
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JANE K. PEMBLE
Traffic Engineer
November 20, 1995
Rick Lavelle
Sirny Arclutects, Inc.
l0U Union Plaza
333 Washington Avenue No.
Minneapolis, MN. 55401
COUNTY �F ANOKA
Public Services Division
HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT
1440 BUNKER LAKE BLVD NW, ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304
(612) 754-3520 FAX (612) 754-3532
RE: Site Plan
US Federal Credit Union
Dear Mr. Lavelle:
We have reviewed the site plan for the US Federal Credit Union, to be located east of
� CSAH 35 (Old Central Avenue) between CSAH 6(Rice Creek Rd) and 64th Avenue
NE within the City of Fridley, a.nd i offer the followang comments:
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Existing right-of-way adjacent to CSAH 35 should be adequate for future
reconstruction purposes, provided that CSAH 35 remains an urban section in
this area (50 feet - total R/W width east of CSAH 35 R/W centerline). Given
the fact that Old Central Avenue is a County State Aid Highway, and the short
frontage on CSAH 35 for this site, it is recommended tha.t the access plan be
revised to consist of one access onto CSAH 35 only, with an internal loop road
around the entire site (see enclosed sketch).
Calculations must be provided a1on� with a grading and erosion control �lan that
delineaxes the drainage areas for this site. The post-developed rate of discharge
shall not exceed the pre-developed rate of discharge for the 10-vear frequency
storm, utilizing the "itationale Method" of design to determine the rate of
discharge. �
An access permit and a permit for work within the County Right-of-Way is
required and must be obtained prior to the commencement of construchon.
Contact Roger Butler, Traffic Engineering Coordinator for this department, for
further information regarding the permit process. ,
Affirmative Action / Equal Opportunity Employer
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Thank you for the opportunity to comment. The Developer of the City of Fridley
should conta.ct me when construction of the new access is near completion so that a stop
sign installation at CSAH 35 can be coordinated by this department. Feel free to
contact me if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
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Jane Pemble
Traffic Engineer
xc: Roger Butler, Traific Engineering Coordina.tor
� Barb Dacy, City of Fridley
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Notice is hezeby
Fridley Planning
University Avenue
the purpose of:
PUBLIC HEARING
BEFORE THE
PLANNING COMMISSION
given that there will be a public hearing of the
Commission at the Fridley Municipal Center, 6431
N.E. on Wednesday, May 1, 1996 at 7:30 p.m. for
Consideration of a special use permit,
SP #96-09, by Sirny Architects, per Section
205.13.O1.C.(6) of the Fridley City Code, to
allow a bank or other financial institution
in a C-1, Local Business zoning district, on
Lots 17 and 18, Block 2, spring Valley,
generally located at 6303 Central Avenue N.E.
Any and all persons desiring to be heard shall be given an
opportunity at the above stated time and place. Any questions
related to this item may be referred to the Community Deve.lopment
Department at 572-3593.
Hearing i.mpaired persons planning to attend w
interpreter or other persons with disabilitie
auxiliary aids should contact Roberta Collins
later than April 24, 1996.
Publish: April 18, 1996
April 25, 1996
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DAVID NEWMAN
CHAIR
PLANNING COMMISSION
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CITY OF FRIDLEY
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FRIDLEY, MN 55432
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(612) 571-3450 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT
�SPECI.AL USE PERMIT APPLICATION FORIVI
PROPERTY INFORMATION - site plan required for submittal; see attached
Address: b303 Central Avenue '
�����d4�x�R�d� Lot 17 , Block 2 , #13-30-24-42-0051
Lega.l desCTiption: Lot 18, Block 2, #13-30-24-42-0052
Lot 17 8� 18 B10Ck Z
Current zoning: c-1
_ TracdAddition Sp r i r.� va 11 e�
Square footage/acreage 80� 640
Reasonforspecialusepermi� Finar.cial insritution
Section of City Code:
Have you opera.ted a business in a ciry which required a business license? Z.C� �• f�° d�- F�.�-�' �
Yes No x If yes, which city?
If yes, what type of busine�s�
'� Was that license ever denied or revoked? Yes No
FEE OWNER INFORMATION {as it`appears ;on the'property'title)° "
(Contract Purchasers: Fee Owners must sign this form prior to processing) _
NAME US Federai Credit Uni.on
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NAjVjE_ Sirny Architects, Laurence Page
ADDRESS�������.,s�e1e AvPn�tP lUnrth� S��itp 1(Hl
DAYTIME PHONE 341-1070
SIGNATURE �/ 7�� a`�, - DATE 27 March 1996
Fee: 5400.00 $100.00 for residential2nd accessory buildings
Permit SP # _ ��—� �' Receipt # - l `-l5�f
��., Applicaxion received by:
Scheduled Planning Commission date: /�
� Scheduled City Council date: '
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SP #96-09
Sirny Architects
Mailing List
Sirny Architects OS Federal Credit Union
Laurence Page 2772 East 82nd Street
333 Washington Ave N#100 Bloomington, MN 55425
Minneapolis, MN 55401
Daniel Erickson
4611 - 36th Street East
Minneapolis, NIl�T 55406
Margaret Brickner
1671 Kristin Court NE
Fridley, NIl�T 55432
Current Resident
1250 East Moore Lk
Fridley, MN 55432
Bob/Jackie Calderon
or Current Resident
6401 Central Avenue
Fridley, I+Il�T 55432
Ziebart
or Current Resident
6300 Central Avenue NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Current Resident
6490 Central Avenue
Fridley, NIN 55432
Mailed: April 5, 1996
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F. ICitternaan/S. Sunde
or Current Resident
6400 Central Avenue NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Greenville College
315 East College Avenue
Greenville, IL 62246
Quality Growth Ltd.
NE 804 Black Building
PO Box 2561
Fargo, ND 58102
Kurt/Andrea Olson
Dr or Current Resident
1385 - 64th Avenue NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Joseph/Linda Nelson
or Current Resident
NE 1357 - 64th Avenue NE
Fridley, NIlJ 55432
David Zerby
or Current Resident
1400 - 64th Avenue NE
Fridley, NIld 55432
Lavonne Kowski
or Current Resident
6391 Central Avenue
Fridley, 1+�T 55432
Current Resident
6381 Central Avenue
Fridley, MN 55432
Stanley Dahlberg
or Current Resident
1384 - 64th Avenue NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Frank/Vallie Labandz
or Current Resident
NE 1356 - 64th Avenue NE
Fridley, NIlJ 55432
US Federal Credit Union
NE or Current Resident
1252 East Moore Lk Dr
Fridley, MN 55432
Ernest IClar
or Current Resident
1373 - 64th Avenue NE
Fridley, MN 55432
John/Susan Rau
or Current Resident �
1341 - 64th Avenue NE
Fridley, NII�T 55432
Mark/Jean Schwartz
or Current Resident
1372 - 64th Avenue NE
Fridley, NIld 55432
Sharyn Ramsey
or Current Resident
1340 - b4th Avenue NE
Fridley, MN 55432
JSC Marketing Inc.
or Current Resident
6301 Central Avenue NE
Fridley, MN 55432
Yoava Rlucsar lda Kassow Dorothy Miles
or Current Resident or Current Resident or Current Resident
1420 Rice Creek Rd. NE 1400 Rice Creek Rd. NE 1370 Rice Creek Rd. NE�
Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432 Fridley, MN 55432
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�Paul Litwinczuk
or Current Resident
6291 Central Avenue
Fridley, MN 55432
O''`y Council Members
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Gregory Stenhoff
or Current Resident
NE 6283 Central Avenue
Fridley, MN 55432
David Newman
Planning Comm. Chair
7635 Alden Way NE
Fridley, NIl�T 55432
Caleb Spooner
or Current Resident
NE 6271 Central A�renue NE
Fridley, AIl�T 55432