08/21/1996 - 00003615CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AUGUST 21, 1996
CALL TO ORDER:
Vice-Chairperson Kondrick called the August 21, 1996, Planning
Commission meeting to order at 7:38 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Dave Kondrick, LeRoy Oquist, Dean Saba,
Connie Modig
Members Absent: Diane Savage, Brad Sielaff, Larry Kuechle
Others Present: Scott Hickok, Planning Coordinator
Michele McPherson, Planning Assistant
E. Jean & Clayton Hicks, 106 Hartman Cir.
Gabriel Giancola, 105 Hartman Circle
John Hinsverk, 170 Hartman Circle
Dave Johnson, University Avenue
Keith King, 525 W. King
Robert Lester, DVM, VETsMART
APPROVAL OF JULY 10, 1996 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to approve the
July 10, 1996, Planning Commission minutes as written.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
l. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP
#96-14, BY ROGER SERDAHL:
Per Section 205.07.O1.C.(1) of the Fridley City Code, to
allow an accessory building other than the first accessory
building, over 240 square feet, on Lot 3, Block 4, City
View, generally located at 409 - 57th Place N.E.
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Ms. Modig, to open the public
hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 7:40
P.M.
Mr. Hickok stated the special use permit request is to construct
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a second accessory building greater than 240 square feet. The
property is a double fronted lot and fronts 57th Place. The
driveway access and existing garage are on 57 1/2 Avenue. This
request would provide a second accessory building on this site.
There is a simultaneous and separate request for a variance to
reduce the setback from 35 feet to 22 feet.
Mr. Hickok stated staff has evaluated the surrounding area which
is R-1, Single Family Residential. The area is developed with
existing garages along 57th Place. There are also garages to the
north which are set in a similar fashion, but in most cases they
are one large consolidated garage. We do not have a condition
with a second accessory building in this neighborhood.
Mr. Hickok stated the special use permit process is used to
evaluate the suitability of certain uses for an area. In
evaluating this site for a second accessory building, staff
determined that the existence of buildings along the street at
the area proposed has a cluttered feel. Staff believes the
impact to this site and surrounding sites by granting the special
use permit would be detrimental. As an alternative, staff
recommends a consolidation of the accessory buildings into one
larger garage. Staff has talked to the petitioner about the
potential of adding a second stall onto the existing garage or
building a consolidated garage at the proper setback. The
petitioner's first response to that was, because of asbestos,
they did not want to disturb the first garage.
Mr. Hickok stated staff believes that their recommendation is the
best for this area and for this site to have a consolidated
building. Staff recommends denial of the request.
Mr. Kondrick asked if there were any comments from the neighbors.
Mr. Hickok stated staff did receive comments from one neighbor
who is opposed to a second accessory building and would hope for
a consolidation.
Ms. Modig asked, when talking about asbestos removal, is that not
quite costly and a factor to worry about.
Mr. Hickok stated his understanding is that the regulations for
residential is different from that for industrial disposal.
Properly packaged, it can be collected by existing sanitation
hauler. He thought it was a matter of care in removing the
material. There is some cost associated with it, but he thought
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the cost was nominal in a residential application.
Ms. Modig asked who had received the mailing.
Mr. Hickok stated residents living either side of the street on
57th and 57 1/2 Place would have received notices.
Mr. Oquist asked if it was feasible to put a garage at the 35-
foot setback so there is no variance.
Mr. Hickok stated staff thinks it is feasible. There is a grade
difference toward the house. One alternative staff looked at was
attaching the garage to the house which is feasible. There would
need to be some type of a draining system to insure run off. It
may be a nice alternative if the homeowner was planning to
increase their living space over the garage. Staff would
encourage that alternative or a larger garage at the 35-foot
setback.
The petitioner was not present at the meeting.
Mr. Hickok stated the petitioner did not attend the Appeals
Commission meeting either. The Appeals Commission chose to table
discussion to the next meeting.
MOTION by Ms. Modig, seconded by Mr. Saba, to table this request
to the next meeting.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, #96-
15, BY VETsMART:
Per Section 205.15.O1.C.(9) of the Fridley City Code, to
allow a veterinary facility in conjunction with a PETsMART
retail store on Lot 2, Block l, Home Depot Fridley Addition,
generally located at 5660 Main Street N.E.
MOTION by Ms. Modig, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to open the public
hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 7:50
P.M.
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Ms. McPherson stated the request is for 5660 Main Street which is
at the intersection of 57th Avenue and Main Street. The proposed
location of the request is for the currently under construction
PETsMART which is located north of the existing Home Depot and
attached to Home Depot. They share a zero lot line. The
PETsMART facility will be 24,960 square feet in area and is a
retail pet supply store. In addition, the facility will have a
groomer, fish, birds, and they propose to provide veterinary
services. The veterinary services part of the facility occupies
approximately 60 of the store area. Ms. McPherson reviewed the
floor plan which includes exam rooms, X-ray rooms, a surgery
area, general reception area, and pharmacy.
Ms. McPherson stated veterinary clinics are permitted with a
special use permit in a C-3, General Shopping District. The
following standards are outlined in the zoning code:
l. All windows in the area of building housing animals shall be
double glazed with a fixed sash.
2. Any ventilation systems shall be designed so that no odors
or organisms will spread between wards or to the outside
air.
3. There shall be no outside pens or holding areas.
Ms. McPherson stated the proposal by PETsMART meets those
criteria. Staff recommends another stipulation which is
consistent with previous requests, as follows:
4. The petitioner shall submit documentation verifying that all
veterinarians are licensed as required by the State.
Ms. McPherson stated staff recommends approval of the request
with the four stipulations as previously stated.
Mr. Oquist asked if the veterinary services were part of the
original plan.
Ms. McPherson stated yes.
Dr. Lester stated VETsMART is presently establishing their
hospitals throughout the Twin Cities. This facility is one of
nine in the area. They now have a similar facility in Plymouth
which provides full seven-day a week, well equipped, quality
veterinary hospitals. Dr. Lester reviewed the services that are
available.
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Mr. Kondrick asked if they had any problems with the stipulations
as outlined.
Dr. Lester stated they had no problems.
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to close the public
hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 8:55
P.M.
Mr. Oquist stated the request seemed straight forward. He had no
objections.
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Ms. Modig, to recommend
approval of Special Use Permit, SP #96-15, by VETsMART, to allow
a veterinary facility in conjunction with a PETsMART retail store
on Lot 2, Block l, Home Depot Fridley Addition, generally located
at 5660 Main Street N.E., with the following stipulations:
l. All windows in the area of building housing animals shall be
double glazed with a fixed sash.
2. Any ventilation systems shall be designed so that no odors
or organisms will spread between wards or to the outside
air.
3. There shall be no outside pens or holding areas.
4. The petitioner shall submit documentation verifying that all
veterinarians are licensed as required by the State.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. McPherson stated the City Council would consider this request
on September 16.
3. CONSIDERATION OF A VACATION REQUEST, SAV #96-03, BY CLAYTON
AND JEAN HICKS:
To vacate a five foot drainage and utility easement
dedicated in the plat of Sandhurst Addition covering the
southerly five feet of Lot 2, Block l, Sandhurst Addition,
lying easterly of the westerly ten feet of said Lot 2, and
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the northerly five feet of Lot 3, Block l, Sandhurst
Addition, generally located at 106 Hartman Circle N.E.
Ms. McPherson stated the request is for 106 Hartman Circle which
is located west of East River Road and north of the south loop of
Hartman Circle. The petitioners are requesting to vacate a five-
foot drainage and utility easement that lies on both sides of the
lot line for a total width of 10 feet. The petitioners' property
is composed parts of Lot 2 and Lot 3 of Sandhurst Addition. When
the lot was created and the house built, the underlying easements
were not vacated and the dwelling constructed in 1961 was built
over the easement. The petitioner has requested this vacation in
order to clear up any future title issues which may arise as a
result of the dwelling constructed over the easement.
Ms. McPherson stated the Engineering Department reviewed request
to determine if there was any impact to City utilities. There
are no existing City utilities located within the easement area.
They have recommended that only the easterly 93 feet of the
easement be vacated. That would allow vacation of the portion
under the dwelling unit. Their recommendation is based on the
fact that there are overhead power lines in this area. There is
a utility pole located in the corner of the two properties and
they want the easement for utility purposes.
Ms. McPherson stated, as has been typical in similar requests,
the City is requesting an easement in exchange for this 10-foot
area. Staff recommends approval of the request with the
following stipulation:
l. The petitioner shall grant the City a 10-foot drainage and
utility easement along the north lot line of the property.
Ms. McPherson stated this is requested in order to provide access
for the City and/or utility companies to access any utilities
located to the rear of these properties.
Mr. Oquist asked why the City was requesting 10 feet on this
property and not five feet for this property and five feet from
the adjoining property owner.
Ms. McPherson stated staff did not have the opportunity to speak
to the adjacent property owner.
Mr. Kondrick asked if staff had received any comments from the
neighbors.
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Ms. McPherson stated staff had received no calls.
Mr. Hicks stated he has lived here since 1962. This came about
when he was looking at the possibility of an accessory shed and
found that his house was built on top of an easement. He does
not have a problem and is very grateful to get an easement back
to the utility pole. However, he cannot accept how they can take
10 feet from the north side of him. They have only 13 feet from
the garage to the house. Taking 10 feet leaves him with 3 feet.
There is 24 feet to the back. If he wanted to put an accessory
shed to the back, it would be worthless. As far as
accessibility, it is hopeless because it is a walk-out. The land
slopes down to the south. He cannot understand the necessity of
having an easement because of accessibility all through the back.
Accessibility to the south is hopeless too. There are trees
there. They have constructed a cement wall to help with the
erosion problem and there is a slope coming from the neighbor's
lot to his. To the rear the land slopes down also. He thought
staff should review that and ask themselves why they need the 10
feet. Also, of all the other homes in the circle, he does see
any other lots from the street to the rear of the lot that have
an easement that goes back there. Why has he been selected?
They have the smallest lot and the City wants to take 10 feet of
the rear of his lot. He cannot understand the need for it.
Certainly the builder and the City erred at the time the house
was platted and built.
Mr. Giancola stated he is the former 109 Hartman Circle. The
requested easement does not make any sense whatsoever on the
north part of Mr. Hicks' lot. 52 feet comprises the north part
of Mr. Hicks' lot and 40 feet comprises another lot and the
easement runs straight through. In looking at the plat from the
westerly portion, there are already easements that are created so
there is access from about four areas to that back portion. To
create 10 feet here and 10 feet there makes this lot devalued, so
to speak, and does not make any sense. Mr. Hicks came back the
night he found the easement and they looked at the abstract.
Mr. Giancola stated he does not see any reason for accessibility
to take 10 feet off the north portion of this lot because the
City and utilities have access there already from a number of
points to provide service.
Mr. Hinsverk stated his lot adjoins to the petitioners' lot at
the west side. After talking to Mr. Hicks about this, it seemed
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to him there was sufficient access so they would not have to
reserve that 10 feet to the north side of that lot.
Mr. Oquist stated there is access from several points. Why do
they need to have that?
Ms. McPherson stated, in terms of maintaining as many points of
access as possible is important so they are not limited in terms
of access in times of an emergency or any other time they need to
gain that access. She was not sure what the site conditions
were. If any of those points were blocked, the City has the
right to have access at multiple points on the block.
Ms. McPherson stated the City has asked in similar instances for
a trade of easement areas. Staff received a request in 1995 for
the vacation of an easement where a house of built on an easement
and we asked for a 10-foot easement on the same property. The
City is being consistent in asking for similar dispensation to
the City.
Ms. Modig asked if the other property had the same site
constraints. If you are taking 10 feet of property from a lot
that is only 24 feet wide, then they can do nothing with that.
Ms. McPherson stated, in the request from last year, the City
asked for a 10-foot easement in the side yard where the house was
10 feet from the side property line. Granted that person's
property was wide so they had the remaining property to utilize.
She was not sure of the petitioners' intent as to the size of
structure being built. There is possibly a point of compromise.
Mr. Oquist asked, if there was an easement there and you cannot
use it, you would not be able to use it anyway.
Mr. Hicks stated it is 168 feet back. Only 24 feet is left
behind the house. 10 feet for an easement leaves 14 feet. They
could not put anything there. If you need to get at the 24 feet
of their lot in the back, then why is it you cannot come in from
the west side. It is no further. He also asked staff, of the
other homes on Hartman Circle, how many others have accessibility
with an easement from the street. None have that, but the City
is asking for it from him.
Ms. Modig stated the City now has a 10-foot easement but it is
under the house.
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Mr. Giancola stated, if you made a visual inspection of the lot,
the lot is level. There is a retaining wall, then it slopes down
in back. There are trees along the lot line to the back. It is
meaningless.
Ms. Modig asked Ms. McPherson what she meant when she mentioned a
compromise.
Ms. McPherson stated the Planning Commission has heard the
petitioners' testimony and the testimony of the neighbors. Staff
has made a recommendation. The Commission can choose to do
something otherwise. Possible options could include eliminating
the stipulation, requiring 5 feet, or tabling the request to
allow staff work with the petitioner to come to some form of
agreement.
Mr. Oquist stated he was in agreement with the petitioner. He
understands the City's point and the need for an easement.
However, there is access from the south, west and north. We did
not have the easement to begin with unless you go through the
house. In this case, he thought they needed to look at it
individually. What it does to this property and the fact that
you have access from various points as it is, he does not think
the City needs that easement. He would vote to recommend
approval without the stipulation.
Ms. Modig stated she felt the same way. She wants to be
consistent but sometimes you have to look at some things
individually. She thought they would be putting a burden on the
property owner to take away that 10 feet.
Mr. Saba and Mr. Kondrick agreed.
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Ms. Modig, to recommend
approval of Vacation Request, SAV #96-03, by Clayton and Jean
Hicks, to vacate a five foot drainage and utility easement
dedicated in the plat of Sandhurst Addition covering the
southerly five feet of Lot 2, Block l, Sandhurst Addition, lying
easterly of the westerly ten feet of said Lot 2, and the
northerly five feet of Lot 3, Block l, Sandhurst Addition,
generally located at 106 Hartman Circle N.E.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. McPherson stated the City Council on September 16 would
establish a public hearing to be held on September 30.
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4. RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE HLTMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION
MEETING OF JUNE 6, 1996
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Mr. Saba, to receive the
minutes of the Human Resources Commission meeting of June 6,
1996.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
5. RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
MEETING OF JUNE 13, 1996
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Ms. Modig, to receive the minutes
of the Housing & Redevelopment Authority meeting of June 13,
1996.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
6. RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE HLTMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION
MEETING OF JUNE 20, 1996
MOTION by Mr. Oquist, seconded by Ms. Modig, to receive the
minutes of the Human Resources Commission meeting of June 20,
1996.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
7. RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING OF
JUNE 26, 1996
MOTION by Ms. Modig, seconded by Mr. Oquist, to receive the
minutes of the Appeals Commission meeting of June 26, 1996.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8. RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
MEETING OF JULY 11, 1996
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Ms. Modig, to receive the minutes
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of the Housing & Redevelopment Authority meeting of July 11,
1996.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Ms. Modig, to adjourn the
meeting.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK
DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE AUGUST 21, 1996, PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:20 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Lavonn Cooper
Recording Secretary