09/18/1996 - 00003634CITY OF FRIDLEY
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, SEPTEMBER 18, 1996
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Savage called the September 18, 1996, Planning
Commission meeting to order at 7:33 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Diane Savage, Dave Kondrick, Dean Saba, Brad
sielaff, Connie Modig
Members Absent: LeROy oquist, �arry Kuechle
Others Present: Scott Hickok, Planning Coordinator
Cindy & Gary 7enco, 1420 Cleveland Street,
Anoka, Minnesota
�ackie olafson, Children's Home society
Tim Ducharme, Northco
Dennis Zylla, Northco
APPROVAL OF SEPTEMBER 4, 1996 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. sielaff, seconded by Ms. Modig, to approve the
September 4, 1996, Planning Commission minutes as written.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SAVAGE DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT,
ZTA #96-01, BY NORTHCO CORPORATION:
To Amend the Fridley City Code, Chapter 205, entitled
"zoning":
By amending Section 205.17.C., "uses Permitted with a
special use Permit", by adding:
205.17.C.(5) Commercial �aycares
and renumbering consecutive sections; and
By amending Section 205.18.C., "uses Permitted with a
special use Permit", by adding:
205.18.C.(5) Commercial �aycares
and renumbering consecutive sections.
MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Mr. saba, to waive the
reading of the public hearing notice and to open the public
hearing.
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UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SAVAGE DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 7:35 P.M.
Mr. Hickok stated the zoning text amendment would allow daycare
centers in industrial districts. The petitioner is Northco
Corporation. This is a specific request; however, the amendment
would be a zoning text amendment for the entire City. The
petitioner has a person interested in using their industrial
facility for a daycare center. The applicant has requested the
City amend the industrial district requirements to allow daycares
as a special use. The applicant would like to locate a 6,500
square foot Children's Home Society tenant in a 36,000 square
foot building located at 500 - 73rd Avenue.
Mr. Hickok stated, as staff received the request, it became clear
the petition is for a use without language permitting such use in
the district. staff must evaluate as to whether this is
something the City is interested in pursuing and where best to
place the amendment. The petitioner is asking for a text
amendment. whether or not we feel that is a special use in this
zoning district is a call that staff made. Part of the analysis
for a daycare facility came down to the type of daycare facility
- stand alone centers for public use, centers within multi-tenant
buildings, or centers for private use in a multi-tenant
buildings.
Mr. Hickok stated staff evaluated the state building and fire
codes about such uses. The concern is whether this is a
practical use for a daycare to be placed in an industrial
facility and be made compatible with the building design. The
answer is yes. The fire codes and building codes are very
specific about how to segregate uses within a complex.
Mr. Hickok stated, as staff analyzed the area of the code in
which to place the amendment, staff came to the conclusion that a
special use permit would be the best vehicle for daycares. Both
the M-1 and M-2 are industrial zoning districts that could handle
daycares with the appropriate building modifications. There may
be stipulations we would want to place on a daycare in such a
facility. staff recommends modification of the M-1, �ight
zndustrial, and M-2, Heavy zndustrial, districts to allow daycare
as a special use when they meet the following standards:
1. �aycare centers shall be located in a multi-tenant building
located on an arterial.
2. �aycare centers shall not exceed 30% of the floor area of
the building.
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3. outdoor play areas shall be contiguous to the building.
4. Pedestrian crossing areas shall be clearly marked through
the use of pavement markings and traffic signs.
5. Parking shall be at the rate of 1 space for every 100 square
feet of usable daycare space (1:100).
6. signage shall be limited to wall signage and shall be in
compliance with section 214 of the City Code.
7. �aycare shall be licensed in accordance with the state and
County requi rements .
8. �aycare centers shall comply with building code occupancy
and separation requirements.
9. �oading and drop-ff areas shall be designed so as not to
infringe on traffic flow.
Mr. Hickok stated this is a general text amendment. The
stipulations are suggested stipulations that would be included in
the language under the special use provisions in this district.
There may be additional stipulations as staff would analyze
individual applications.
Mr. Hickok stated the idea of a special use permit is to make it
compatible with the uses surrounding the area.
Mr. Hickok stated the petitioner did a very nice job in
providing information about the daycare they are hoping to
accommodate, the Children's Home society of Minnesota, who is
interested in the 6,500 square feet of space.
Mr. Hickok stated staff recommends approval of a text amendment
to districts M-1, �ight zndustrial, and M-2, Heavy zndustrial, to
provide for daycare facilities through the special use permit
process. He distributed copies of suggested language for the
text. zf the commission has revisions, staff will incorporate
that language into an informal ordinance form before this goes to
the City Council.
Mr. Kondrick stated he is concerned about sound from the
industrial activities that occur in adjacent bays. Has staff
considered this? That could be a problem in some cases. There
may also be cases of a business who may in the future want to
locate next to the daycare center.
Ms. savage stated, if her understanding is correct, this is a
text ordinance amendment that would allow someone to apply for a
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special use permit, and then they would have to go through the
process. zf there was a particular problem such as sound, that
could be addressed at that time. As far as this applicant is
concerned, does the ordinance first have to be approved and then
does the applicant have to apply for a special use permit?
Mr. Hickok stated yes. The amendment would open the door for the
applicant.
Mr. sielaff stated one handout stated section 205.17.0 and the
other states Section 205.18.C. why are there two?
Mr. Hickok stated 205.17.0 is the M-1, �ight zndustrial,
suggested language; and 205.18.0 is the M-2, Heavy zndustrial
suggested language.
Ms. Modig stated one of the issues stated the building be located
on an arterial street. That is not always going to be the case
for industrial zoning.
Mr. Hickok stated the industrial districts are set up to
accommodate heavy traffic and most have arterial streets. one
would rarely find a place where this does not fit.
Ms. Modig stated that would not then be a hindrance for a company
who may want a daycare center.
Mr. Hickok stated there are going to be some. There are some
industrial areas that are on secondary streets. He thought this
language would be perfect for those situations. zn those
situations, it would be difficult for people to get in and out,
especially at peak times.
Mr. sielaff asked if this would regulate businesses, such as
onan, if they wanted to have a daycare center on their site.
Mr. Hickok stated the language is designed for drop-off daycare
centers. zf a company wished to have a center inside an existing
complex, staff would be able to control that through the building
code. He thought the City would see more of those requests. The
M-1 and M-2 language would recognize daycare is possible. The
stipulations would protect the City. As a request would come
through the process, additional stipulations may be necessary.
Mr. sielaff stated the language indicates multi-tenant buildings
which seems to preclude that type of daycare.
Mr. Hickok stated this was correct. Multi-tenant speaks to the
drop-off daycare.
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Mr. sielaff asked if the term "daycare" refers to private daycare
centers that are not associated with the company.
Mr. Hickok stated the daycare center may or may not be associated
with the company. staff looked at an example in North Mankato
where a drop-off daycare center is located in an industrial park
and the center gives priority to workers in the park. This would
accommodate associated industrial workers needing daycare.
Ms. Modig asked if by saying "multi-tenant" would that preclude
those who want a daycare and there is only one other tenant.
Mr. Hickok stated this was correct.
Mr. sielaff stated he would like to know the definition of a
daycare center.
Mr. Hickok stated a daycare center is defined as any non-home
based program that for compensation or otherwise provides for the
care of children outside their home as part of a 24-hour day. zt
includes but is not limited to programs for children known as
nursery school, day nurseries, child care nurseries, and daycare
facilities.
Ms. savage stated the language is very broad but it must meet
State and County requirements.
Ms. Modig stated she is also concerned about sound and have some
area where we deal with sound or have the daycare sound proofed.
That is a concern particularly for the outside play areas. This
must be dealt with somewhere.
Mr. Kondrick asked whose responsibility this was. zs this the
responsibility of the City or the responsibility of those who run
the program?
Mr. sielaff stated anyone who wants a daycare in an M-1 or an M-2
woul d requi re a speci al use pe rmi t. zt woul d be unde r the revi ew
of the Planning Commission and the Planning Commission would
still have the flexibility to deny the request if there are
concerns.
Mr. Hickok stated this was correct. The City Council would make
the final decision.
Mr. zylla stated he was a partner in the land that is under
consideration. He is looking at it from a broader issue. He was
at the meeting with Mr. �ucharme and Ms. olafson, who is
representing the provider and who could provide additional
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information on the provider. zn staff's presentation, some of
the limitations don't seem part of the recommendation. when he
drafted the zoning text amendment, he suggested it be a permitted
or accessory use. staff is recommending a special use. He still
feels it is a permitted use in a commercial district and the
Planning Commission should allow this as a permitted use in an
industrial district. He did not see the difference between the
permitted and special use. He thought everyone recognizes that
there is a lot of regulation that goes with this. The state
regulates daycare very severely. The building and fire codes
regulate this very severely. zf you are concerned that you need
to control due to concerns about sound and/or industrial noise,
he did not think that would happen. �aycare providers will only
locate in an area with a conducive environment for their program.
zf there is a user who generates noise, smoke, fumes, etc., the
tenants would not want to locate there.
Mr. Kondrick
leaves and a
could change.
stated the situation could occur where a tenant
new tenant moves in having a different use. The mix
Mr. zylla stated the daycare as a user will need a guarantee in
their lease that nothing will happen to cause the adjacent uses
to become a problem for them. He thought the Commission should
keep in mind that this is a trend in our society. with more and
more parents working, people want to be close to their children
and like the convenience. when he wrote the language as he did
with the use as permitted or accessory, he did so because more
larger corporations are giving consideration to putting daycare
in their buildings. They consider it a service to their
employees and, in many case, a necessary part of the fringe
benefit package they provide. He thought the multi-tenant thing
should be considered carefully. zt would not affect them, but it
something to consider. He does not have a problem with the
arterial street. The 30% area does not affect them. zn their
particular building, they have more of a hybrid industrial/office
use. Most of the uses in the building are office. The
uniqueness of the site and appeal is that the parcel is 6.58
acres so it is a large parcel with trees next to the building and
it is not visible from 73rd. zt is a nice, private industrial
area as opposed to the 7ohn Allen building which is an industrial
warehouse in character. That area is also totally different in
character. He did not have a particular problem with the other
uses.
Mr. zylla stated he did have a concern with the parking space
requirements. There are 20 employees who are not there all the
time. The center is currently licensed for 99 children and the
parents come and go at intervals. At 1:100 as suggested, they
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would be required to provide 65 spaces which seems severe. He
did not think the parking requirement should be greater than the
requirement in the district or they may be forced to come in for
a variance.
Mr. Kondrick asked if Mr. zylla thought the requirement was to
high.
Mr. zylla stated yes. The user could also speak to that. He did
not do a parking count. They have enough parking for the
building but the building is not full either. Parking is always
something to be concerned about. He would rather not be
subjected to an unusually rigid requirement and find that we
cannot meet it when we know it is functionally not necessary.
The only other concern relates to the limitation on signage which
says no independent free-standing signs. zf you have been to the
site, they have a sign listing the tenants. They would like to
have the daycare on that sign because it is not an easy place to
find. They are excited about the possible amendment. He would
like to see this as a permitted use. Hopefully, with the other
comments and consideration of concerns, we can get this passed on
to the City Council and consummate their lease with this tenant.
Ms. olafson stated she was the divisional director for childhood
services for the Children's Home society. They currently operate
18 child care centers around the state, generally affiliated with
technical colleges. They currently operate a site at the spring
�ake Park High school. Their intention is to move to this
facility from the spring �ake Park High school. The space they
are currently using is needed by the school district, and they
must move by 7une 1997.
Ms. olafson stated they now provide services for 99 children with
20 staff. They use about 9 to 10 parking spaces which has been
sufficient over the years. They have a comparable parking
arrangement with the st. Paul Companies where they have a center
for 118 children with 12 parking spaces for the families. That
should give an idea of their needs. 10 spaces for staff and 12
for the families should be sufficient. They are licensed by the
state and accredited which is a step above the requirements.
They pride themselves in providing exceptional services. They
have staff who have been with them for 10 to 15 years at the
spring �ake Park site. There is a lot of discussion about
quality of day care and part of that discussion is the length of
service for staff. staff are long term and provide a continuity
of service. They have a strong following of families in the
Spring �ake Park community and have tremendous support to stay in
this area. They believe the move to Fridley, while it would be a
relocation, is a short distance and they could continue to serve
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the families they now serve plus additional families from Fridley
as well.
Ms. olafson stated they have toured the building and looked at it
very carefully. They would not put a center into anything but a
pleasant environment for the children. The playground would be
private and protected with doors directly into the building.
They have worked with an architect to design the inside to meet
all the requirements and provide ample square footage. Beyond
the code, they want to provide a positive approach to a
curriculum for the children. They are excited about this
possibility.
Mr. Kondrick asked how many children are in the present daycare
center and how many will be in the proposed center.
Ms. olafson stated they currently have 99 children. The proposed
space would be for 95 children. They will not go bigger than
that.
Mr. sielaff asked if the state would come out and inspect the new
facility.
Ms. olafson stated yes. They look at the plans ahead of time to
make sure everything meets their requirements. They will have to
do some major renovation.
Mr. sielaff asked if the state considers the area beyond the
center.
Ms. olafson stated no.
Mr. Kondrick stated concerns have been raised about sound in the
event noises are excessive.
Ms. olafson stated that is a good point. They have been through
the building and did not zero in on how soundproof the building
was, but they will look at it again. They do go at peak traffic
times. They would work with Northco to make sure that the
tenants coming in are not a detriment to their operation. Their
board of directors will look closely at those issues before
approving.
Mr. �ucharme stated the owners of the building are as concerned
about the noise as are the other tenants. Children can also be
noisy and this is a concern. The appropriate precautions will be
taken to soundproof the area.
MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Mr. saba, to close the public
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hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SAVAGE DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 8:20 P.M.
Mr. Kondrick asked how many parking spaces would this person be
required to provide.
Mr. Hickok stated, at the rate of 1:100 which staff feels is
appropriate, Northco would be required to provide 65 spaces.
That language comes from the code for daycares in a residential
district. zn the residential section of the code, the following
language is included:
(b) Reduction of parking spaces may be allowed when
provision of space required for parking stalls, due to the
particular nature of the proposed use or other
considerations, would be an unnecessary hardship. Adequate
open space shall be provided to satisfy the total number of
required parking spaces.
Mr. Hickok stated, at least in the residential section, it leaves
some discretion. zf the Planning Commission feels this would be
appropriate in the industrial district, staff can look at it.
One concern of staff is the peak times in morning and evening
when the industrial complex itself is busy and other demands on
parking exist in the facility.
Ms. savage stated another alternative would be the variance
opportunity for special circumstances.
Ms. Modig stated, on this site, we would require this tenant to
have 65 additional spaces.
Mr. Hickok stated no. we would require 65 parking spaces be
dedicated to this use.
Ms. Modig asked how many spaces are available now.
Mr. Hickok stated there are a number of pockets for parking at
this site. He would estimate the total number of spaces to be
over 200. The code recognizes there are demand times. There are
alternating parking opportunities here. staff believes there is
ample space for those who work in the building. staff wants to
make sure that people are accommodated during the peak times.
Ms. Savage stated this parking requirement would apply to
everyone. she did not think the Commission should be
concentrating on the particular applicant.
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Mr. sielaff wondered why the requirement was needed at all.
Ms. Savage stated we want some guidelines if this is going to
apply to the M-1 and M-2 districts. Applicants have the
opportunity to ask for a change when they apply for the special
use permit.
Ms. savage stated she had a question concerning the multi-tenant
building. zf a corporation such as onan wanted to have a
daycare, how would that work into this amendment.
Mr. Hickok stated one way in which to accomplish this could be to
say that the daycare would be located in a building on an
arterial street and to say that the day care maximum floor area
shall not be more than 30% of the floor area of the building.
staff wants to make sure that an industrial site is not utilized
as a daycare center.
Mr. zylla stated, regarding parking, 190 parking spaces at their
site sounds about right. The general office requirement is 1
parking space for every 250 square feet (1:250). They have
45,000 square feet of building space so they would need 180
spaces. zf this would change to 1:100, the number of spaces
becomes much higher or 450 spaces. That more than doubles the
requirement. zf the requirement remained the same as they are in
the district, they would be fine. or, have this considered as
part of the variance application. He would rather not be
applying for a variance.
Mr. Hickok stated the proposed requirement comes out of the
special use permit language for the residential district. The
same section allows for a reduction in the number of spaces which
may be allowed if this would be a hardship. This is essentially
a proof of parking. zf it is deemed that this use could survive
with less, it does give the discretion to have less.
Ms. savage stated this is an issue that could be raised and
discussed at the time of the special use permit application.
Mr. sielaff asked if it would be staff who would have the
discretion to have less.
Mr. Hickok stated, if built into the recommendation, it would
give staff the ability to say we believe this caveat applies, the
Planning Commission would have to concur, and the City Council
approve.
Mr. sielaff asked if there was some problem in dropping the
signage issue. There must be some sign restrictions that already
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exist in this district.
Mr. Hickok stated the intent was not to limit the petitioner from
having the name of the business on the freestanding sign. zn
this industrial complex, it would not allow them to have a second
freestanding sign. zf they wanted, they could give up the
directory sign for a freestanding sign. zt was meant to protect
from those who want their own freestanding sign.
Ms. savage stated, if there is already an existing freestanding
sign with the existing tenants listed, they can put the
additional tenant's name on that sign, but they cannot increase
the size of the existing sign unless it is within the code
requi rement .
Mr. Hickok stated
code requi rements ,
pe rmi tted .
this was correct. They can work within the
but no additional freestanding signs would be
Ms. savage asked if the Commission would like to leave the
parking criteria as presented or add additional language.
Mr. sielaff stated he would like additional language.
Mr. saba stated he would like to go with the language that exists
for the M-1 and M-2 district. He did not see that a daycare
center would require the extra parking. He felt the requirements
in the zoning code were adequate.
Mr. sielaff stated he thought the language as presented was too
rest ri cti ve .
Ms. savage stated she would prefer leaving it as it is without
being too specific because the Commission would be dealing with
all kinds of businesses. zt will also depend on the type of
industrial complex involved. she would personally prefer to
leave some decrease without a fixed number of parking spaces put
into an ordinance that will have many different types of
applicants.
Mr. saba stated the code already indicates the number of spaces
required, the size of the spaces, etc. zt is now that there is a
daycare in the facility.
Mr. sielaff stated, with discretion, we could allow even less
parking.
Ms. Modig stated she thought they should be more language in
order to allow some flexibility to make a change. zf the
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requirement is 1:250 and there is not enough room for that to
happen, there must be a way to get around that. she would like
to add language from the residential section that gives them a
window and also gives the Planning Commission a window to deny
the request.
Ms. savage stated an issue for discussion is whether this should
be a special use or a permitted use.
Mr. Kondrick stated he could see Mr. zylla's point but he would
still like to control the request through the special use
process.
Mr. saba stated he liked the special use because there is also
flexibility with the parking issue.
Mr. Kondrick stated he agreed with Mr. Saba regarding the 1:250
parking ratio. He did not know why this would be a problem.
Ms. savage stated the Commission is not addressing this
particular application. The Commission is addressing an
ordinance amendment. The issue in front of us is an ordinance
amendment. The petitioner will have to come before us again for
a special use permit if this is approved.
Mr. saba stated the existing code for parking in an industrial
district is 1:250. He did not see a need to change that.
Mr. Kondrick stated we can say they are not special. zf we had
heard the 1:250 rule, it would meet their requirements. zf a
person needed more or less, we could also deal with that through
the special use process.
Ms. Modig suggested they leave the parking requirement at 1:250
and add the statement from the residential section. zf there is
a problem with an applicant, it could be handled on a case-by-
case basis and would provide a window.
Ms. savage asked why staff felt the 1:100 was the appropriate
ratio to use.
Mr. Hickok stated it is consistent with daycare, and daycare does
have a crunch time in the morning and in the afternoon which can
cause a conflict with parking. The 1:100 ratio is a consistent
piece across areas of the code. zn the residential area, they
did not want parking to spill over onto the street. There is the
same concern in the industrial district.
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Mr. sielaff asked, in spring �ake Park, does the daycare center
have a designated number of parking spaces.
Ms. 7enco stated they have 30 spaces. They share a parking
facility with the other programs that are in the same wing. zt
does not seem to create a problem that staff are foreseeing.
There is something of a crunch time, but it is really more
staggered more often. occasionally, there may be a number of
people showing up at one time but that is not the norm. she has
children in her classroom that may arrive as early as 6:30 a.m.
or as late as 10:30 a.m. They currently have about 30 parking
spaces for their program and the other programs in their wing.
Because they share, their need is even less. People are there
for short periods of time and they don't all show up at the same
time. Arrivals are staggered. On the sign in/sign out sheet,
she rarely sees more than one person coming at one time.
Ms. olafson stated they are talking about 70 families. zf only
half come at any one time, that is only 35.
Ms. savage stated the center in spring �ake Park is not in an
industrial building. we are looking to have general language
which will provide the controls we need for all situations. she
personally would like to keep the requirement the way it is.
Mr. zylla stated they must understand that the 1:100 clearly is
related to residential, and he knows there is special
consideration for residential. He thought whether it is quasi-
public or religious institutions, they can have the tendency to
disturb the serenity of the residential districts. This is
industrial. Also bear in mind that not all the employees come to
work at the same time. Plus, the landlord is not going to create
a situation that is contrary to the zoning code that jeopardizes
the parking requirements for the other tenants.
Mr. Kondrick stated he felt the 1:250 ratio with some flexibility
was acceptable. He would be comfortable with that. zt would be
consistent with the zoning for the industrial district.
Mr. Sielaff stated they are restricting the parking to 1:250 and
allowing more if that is a burden.
Ms. savage stated, regarding signage, she thought they should add
language that there should be no additional freestanding signs.
Ms. savage stated the multi-tenant would be deleted so the
statement would just say "building".
Ms. savage stated she agreed in general but she did not agree
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with the parking change.
Mr. sielaff he was not tied to the one as presented. The options
are to go with the 1:100 square feet with the flexibility built
in or to go with 1:250 square feet with the flexibility built in
as is in the existing code.
Ms. Modig stated by doing this they would be complying with the
current code but also providing an opportunity to change. They
coul d be more or 1 ess restri cti ve .
Mr. Hickok stated the ratio of 1:250 is more liberal. staff
would like to see it more restrictive with the latitude to loosen
the requi rement .
Ms. savage stated Mr. saba is saying we should stay with the
existing parking space requirements for the M-1 and M-2 district.
she does not agree because this does not take into consideration
that you would have more people coming in for the daycare.
Mr. saba stated it takes into consideration the space
requirements for the industrial complex. For every 250 square
feet, they need 1 parking space. zt has to do with the size of
the building and the percentage of square feet that will be
allowed for the daycare.
Ms. savage asked Mr. Hickok to clarify the areas of the code
where these parking ratios are indicated.
Mr. Hickok stated the 1:250 ratio is the typical industrial
parking requirement. 1:150 is for retail which is more
rest ri cti ve .
Mr. Kondrick stated he thought the industrial zoning was
restrictive enough.
Mr. sielaff stated, if you go with the additional language from
the residential section, you are actually loosening the
requirement. zf you say 1:100, you can then loosen it. zf you
go 1:250, you have already reduced the requirement. The 1:100 is
most restrictive and gives the most flexibility.
Ms. savage stated the City's position is that you will have more
people with this added element. with a daycare there, there will
be more traffic and more of a parking requirement.
Ms. Modig asked if the idea for this use was to fit in with the
industrial district regarding the buildings, code, etc. By
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changing the parking from industrial to residential, it does not
mesh. The parking must fit in with the rest of it.
Ms. savage stated the problem with the industrial parking ratio
is that it does not allow for additional demand.
Mr. saba stated, when the building is constructed, they had a
parking requirement. Now for a daycare to go in, they must
change that. zt makes it difficult to put in a daycare center.
From his knowledge of the daycare centers and the working hours
at the facilities he has worked, people come in at a variety of
times.
Ms. Modig stated she came down 73rd that evening. There are a
lot of cars leaving at the same time in this particular area.
Ms. Savage asked, if we go with the current requirement of 1:250,
how can we if necessary increase the parking if there is a
situation where that is needed.
Mr. Hickok stated there is a provision in the residential portion
that states, "when the provisions for required parking space is
inadequate, the City may require additional off-street parking be
provided."
Mr. sielaff stated he could support the 1:250 ratio with that
language.
MOTION by Ms. Modig, seconded by Mr. Kondrick, to recommend
approval of a zoning Text Amendment, ZTA #96-01, by Northco
Corporation, to amend the Fridley City Code, Chapter 205,
entitled "zoning", by amending Section 205.17.C., "Uses Permitted
with a Special use Permit", by adding: 205.17.C.(5) Commercial
�aycares, and renumbering consecutive sections; and by amending
Section 205.18.C., "uses Permitted with a Special use Permit", by
adding 205.18.C.(5) Commercial �aycares, and renumbering
consecutive sections; with the following amended stipulations:
1. �aycare centers shall be located in a building located on an
a rte ri al .
2. �aycare centers shall not exceed 30% of the floor area of
the building.
3. outdoor play areas shall be contiguous to the building.
4. Pedestrian crossing areas shall be clearly marked through
the use of pavement markings and traffic signs.
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5. Parking shall be at the rate of 1 space for every 250 square
feet of usable daycare space (1:250).
(a) Reduction of parking spaces may be allowed when
provision of space required for parking stalls, due to the
particular nature of the proposed use or other
considerations, would be an unnecessary hardship. Adequate
open space shall be provided to satisfy the total number of
required parking spaces.
(b) when the provisions for required parking space is
inadequate, the City may require additional off-street
parking be provided.
6. signage shall be limited to wall signage and shall be in
compliance with section 214 of the City Code. No additional
freestanding signs shall be allowed.
7. �aycare shall be licensed in accordance with the state and
County requi rements .
8. �aycare centers shall comply with building code occupancy
and separation requirements.
9. �oading and drop-ff areas shall be designed so as not to
infringe on traffic flow.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Hickok stated the City Council would consider this item on
October 14.
2. RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
MEETING OF AUGUST 12, 1996 (along with September 9, 1996
u date
MOTION by Mr. Kondrick, seconded by Mr. saba, to receive the
minutes of the Parks and Recreation Commission meeting of August
12, 1996, along with the September 9, 1996, update.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SAVAGE DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Mr. sielaff, seconded by Mr. saba, to adjourn the
meeting.
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UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SAVAGE DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED AND THE SEPTEMBER 18, 1996, PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:06 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
�avonn Cooper
Recording Secretary