PL 02/19/2003 - 30901CITY OF FRIDLEY
^ PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, FEBRUARY 19, 2003
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Savage called the February 19, 2003, Planning Commission meeting to order at
7:33 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Diane Savage, Barb Johns, Brad Dunham, Dean Saba
Members Absent: David Kondrick, Larry Kuechle
Others Present: Stacy Stromberg, Planner
Michael Juaire, PMJ Group, Inc.
Cindy Mabel, 1214 Norton Ave.
Pam Reynolds, 1241 Norton Ave.
Andrea DeWitt, 1243 Norton Ave.
Porsha Hoskins, 1243 Norton Ave.
APPROVE THE JANUARY 15 2003 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES:
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Ms. Johns, to approve the January 15, 2003, Planning
Commission meeting minutes.
n UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SAVAGE DECLARED THE
- MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. PUBLIC HEARING:
Consideration of a rezoning, ZOA #03-01, by Michael Juaire, to rezone from M-1, Light
Industrial, to R-3, General Multiple Units, to accommodate a townhome development,
generally located at 1152 Norton Avenue NE.
MOTION by Ms. Johns, seconded by Mr. Saba, to open the public hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SAVAGE DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY AND THE PUBLIC HEARING OPENED AT 7:35 P.M.
Ms. Stromberg stated the petitioner, Michael Juaire of PMJ Group, is requesting to rezone the
properly located at 1152 Norton Avenue from M-1, Light Industrial, to R-3, General Multiple
Family. The petitioner is also requesting to replat 1152 and 1170 Norton Drive to allow for the
construction of an 8-unit townhome development.
Ms. Stromberg stated the subject property is zoned M-1, Light Industrial, and the properties
located to the east and northeast are zoned R-3, Multiple Family. The existing home was built
prior to 1949 and the existing garage was built in 1967. Both of these structures would be
removed to accommodate the townhome development.
Ms. Stromberg stated that the existing land use is not consistent with the existing zoning
^ designation. Rezoning this property would be an extension of the existing R-3 zoning
classification, and the entire Norton Avenue block would be zoned R-3, Multiple Family.
Therefore, rezoning this property would be consistent with neighboring properties.
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Ms. Stromberg stated the City's zoning ordinance and zoning map are the mechanisms that
help the City achieve the vision laid out in the Comprehensive Plan. The law gives the City the
authority to rezone the properly from one designated use to another. So long as the zoning is in
conformance with the Comprehensive Plan. The Comprehensive Plan designates the 2020
land use of this property as redevelopment. Redevelopment is described in the Comprehensive
Plan as a form of community revitalization that transforms undesirable elements into desirable
elements that reflect the community collective vision. The purposes of redevelopment are to
remove older blighted structures and to provide an opportunity for more efficient land uses and
eliminate inefficient land uses as under utilized parcels. Redevelopment can also provide an
opportunity to build new facilities, meet current market demands and desires of the City, and to
eliminate incompatible land uses. All of these purposes of redevelopment have the potential of
being met with the rezoning of this property. Rezoning the property to R-3 is consistent with the
Comprehensive Plan and will allow for the redevelopment of this property.
Ms. Stromberg stated City staff recommends approval of this rezoning request with the following
stipulations as the proposed rezoning is an extension of the existing R-3 zoning district and the
proposed rezoning is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan:
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The final landscape plan shall meet code requirements for number of and sizes of
plantings and be reviewed and approved by City staff prior to issuance of a building
permit.
A landscape plan for the ponding area, in lieu of fencing, shall be reviewed and
approved by City staff prior to issuance of a building permit.
A storm pond maintenance agreement shall be filed with the City prior to issuance of a
building permit.
All landscaped areas shall have imgation installed.
The proposed walkway shall be concrete.
Brick type and application on elevations and other extemal building materials shall be
reviewed and approved by City staff prior to issuance of a building permit.
A grading and drainage plan shall be submitted and approved by the City's engineering
staff prior to issuance of a building permit.
The sewer connection shall be located near the cul-de-sac.
The six-inch water main shall be looped according to City engineering staff s
specifications.
A 12-foot utility and drainage easement shall be granted along the entire southem edge
of the property prior to final plat.
A 25-foot easement from the center line of Norton Creek on the west side of the property
shall be granted prior to final plat.
The parking lot shall be constructed to code standards.
All elements of the building shall meet the current building code and be approved by the
City Building Official.
The petitioner shall pay the applicable park dedication fee of $1,500 per unit prior to the
issuance of any building permits.
The fire tumaround shall be redesigned to meet the City's Fire Department standards.
The driveway and fire tumaround shall be designed to 9-ton standards. (corrected —
should be 9-ton standards, not 20-ton standards)
The fire tumaround shall be posted, "No Parking Fire Lane.°
The size of the landscape islands shall be reduced by 5 feet in order to accommodate
fire equipment.
The petitioner shall meet all Rice Creek Watershed District's requirements prior to
issuance of a building permit.
Ms. Savage asked if there were any residences on Norton Avenue that are single family.
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� Ms. Stromberg stated the entire block is zoned R-3, Multiple Family; however, there are single
family homes and duplexes on the block.
Mr. Saba asked about the $1,500 fee. Is that a park fee for the plat and not the rezoning?
Ms. Stromberg replied, yes, but the stipulations for the rezoning and the plat are exactly the
same.
Mr. Saba asked this was an R-3 rezoning instead of a planned unit development?
Ms. Stromberg stated that was a good question. It is just an extension of the existing R-3 zone
and seemed logical to the petitioner and staff.
Mr. Saba stated that if the property is rezoned to R-3, doesn't it stay there forever as an R-3
property and does not necessarily apply to the stipulations? In other words, if a developer
wanted to build this townhome development and tear it down five years from now to build an
apartment building, he/she could that because the property would be zoned R-3.
Ms. Stromberg stated that was correct.
Mr. Saba asked how they define efficient versus non-efficient use of the land in regard to a
townhouse compared to R-1 or single-family residential?
Ms. Stromberg stated that if a property is zoned R-3, she would say the most efficient way to
� develop it would be by the R-3 standard with some kind of multi-family. If it was zoned R-1,
Single Family, a single family home would be the most efficient use for the property. But that is
the difference between the finro.
Mr. Saba stated he just had a concem about defining "efficient" and cramming as much as
possible into an R-3 space. He did not think that was being very efficient.
Ms. Stromberg stated the Code requires so many units per acre, and Mr. Juaire can definitely
build 8 units per acre within those finro parcels that will be rezoned and replatted.
Mr. Saba stated that he remembers a while back they changed was called a"zero lot line
approach" to a full R3 multifamily town home development approach. The zero lot line
approach was a method used to allow more homes with common walls (town homes) on a piece
of property that with normal residential zoning would accommodate fewer homes. In his opinion
some of these developments were ok but now it seems an excuse to cram more residential
development into a small lot and this unfortunately is now being classified as "efficient".
Ms. Johns asked whether the petitioner was aware of the stipulation changing 20-ton standards
to 9-ton standards and the requirements of the Rice Creek Watershed.
Ms. Stromberg replied, yes, and the petitioner has been in contact with the Rice Creek
Watershed.
Ms. Savage asked whether staff has received any complaints or comments from the public
conceming this.
� Ms. Stromberg stated they have heard from finro of the neighbors who have expressed concerns
about traffic, parking, sewer connections, landscaping, and if the road is able to withstand the
added amount of traffic
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Mr. Dunham asked whether there is anything unusual about this request regarding setbacks or �
parking-related issues.
Ms. Stromberg stated, no.
Mr. Michael Juaire stated that regarding the question of why rezoning to R-3 versus planned
unit development, these finro properties are being combined, one of which is already R-3. So
they are asking that the second property also be rezoned R-3 and the combination of the finro
would be rezoned R-3. To rezone 1152 Norton Avenue to planned unit development would not
be consistent with the plan to combine the finro properties of 1170 Norton and 1152 Norton
Avenues. Obviously, they have to have the same zoning designation in order to make the
development work.
Mr. Juaire stated that as far as efficient use, he will probably be coming before this Commission
some time down the road about another parcel that has actually had some activity on it, wanting
to put an 8-unit in an area where it would really be feasible and nice and good for the
neighborhood. He thinks on this property, the R-3 zoning regulations would allow for something
significantly in excess of 8 units, but these are 8 nice upscale townhomes, 1,700 square feet.
He didn't go for maximum utilization; he went for nice townhomes.
Ms. Savage asked if he had any problems with the stipulations including #19 regarding meeting
all Rice Creek Watershed District's requirements prior to issuance of a building permit
Mr. Juaire replied he and the engineer have made an application to Rice Creek Watershed
District.
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Mr. Saba asked if Mr. Juaire intended to fence the pond. There were some objections
expressed in a document to the City about the fencing of the pond. If he doesn't fence it, is it in
effect going to be a public nuisance?
Mr. Juaire stated he had discussed this a little Mr. Bolin. Then he saw the stipulation (#2) about
a landscape plan for the ponding area, in lieu of fencing. He stated he has not had a chance to
discuss this with Mr. Bolin. He assumed that was for aesthetic reasons. He would like to
propose actually putting a fence behind some bushes. You wouldn't see the fence because it
would be behind the bushes, and it would be safer for little kids who might wander into the pond.
So, he doesn't have a problem with that stipulation. This can be discussed further with staff.
Ms. Johns stated the stipulation says landscaping, not necessarily plantings, so it may not
necessarily mean bushes. It could mean some sort of other types of plants as well. So that is
more particular to a wetland area that may look nice and yet achieve a goal or make it a little
more attractive than a fence.
Mr. Saba replied he liked the idea of a fence. He worries about the safety of children.
Ms. Johns asked if it is a dry pond at this location?
Mr. Juaire replied it is meant for runoff water.
Ms. Johns asked if this meant it is not wet all season, just during the heavy rains and then it
goes away. �„1
Mr. Juaire replied, that is right.
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�--� Ms. Cindy Mabel, 1214 Norton Avenue, approached and stated she is two lots down from the
proposed development. Her lot is like a perfect square shape. She has lived there for 31 years.
` It is a single-family home and she has taken a lot of care and really a lot of pride in the property.
One of her biggest concems is parking. Since all these townhomes have gone in, the parking
has become a very big issue. They're all townhomes, they have very short driveways so there
is a lot of parking on the street. As she looks at the curb or street access of the proposed
property, there is actually going to be less street frontage for 8 townhomes than there is just for
her single-family home. So, she is asking herself, where are these people going to park? From
what she understands, they are all going to have two-car garages, but that doesn't allow for
extra cars for visitors. What happens at Christmas when people have their families over?
Where are these people going to park? And there really isn't very much street parking
considering all the streets are full already.
Ms. Mabel stated she can't envision how any of those trees can stay. There are some beautiful
trees along Norton Creek, and there is water unless it is really a dry summer. Her kids play
there. That is a wildlife area that connects down to Rice Creek, and it's beautiful down there. It
is a comdor going straight up along old Central for wildlife, and taking down the trees would be
the end of that. So, she is really concemed about the trees.
Ms. Mabel asked that they look at the quality of life. They are paying good property taxes.
Several of the properties have single family homes, and a lot of the duplexes are owner-
occupied. These people have a strong interest in keeping the neighborhood a good
neighborhood to live in and, with the street traffic, she doesn't see that happening. She stated
people can't park in that cul-de-sac because the plows and school buses need that full width to
� tum around. She just hopes they will really consider the people moving in there and, maybe a
smaller, four-plex or something would be more appropriate. The one house is perfectly good.
The other one could be torn down and rebuilt.
Ms. Pam Reynolds, 1241 Norton Avenue NE, stated she and her daughter own the duplex at
1241-1243 Norton Avenue. She and her daughter do not believe this is the right spot for more
rental property. She understands it's R-3; but, as Ms. Mabel said, many of those homes have
tumed over and become single family. Even though they are duplexes, they are owner-
occupied. She and her daughter moved into Fridley in November of 1999. Since moving into
Fridley, they have seen the affect of rental property in their neighborhood. They have heard a
lot of concems about absentee landlords that have not been resolved. There is property behind
her daughter's that is connected to a very large apartment complex. There is actually two
apartment complexes and what they call townhouses but what she would call four-plexes. That
piece of property, although wooded, has been a complaint issue with them for the last 2%2 years.
The properly is used as a dump site. The properties that are rental are not kept up as well as
those that are single family or owner-occupied.
Ms. Reynolds stated she has safety issue concems because of the fact that Norton is a dead
end street. Currently, the school bus does not come down the street because the cul-de-sac is
not large enough. She has a concem with an 8-plex because of the large construction vehicles
causing damage to the street. Who is going to pay for the damages the construction vehicles
cause going up and down the street? Currently, the garbage trucks and snowplow are the
biggest vehicles that go down that street. She just doesn't see this as being an asset to their
neighborhood. She is also concemed with the traffic and the parking, because this is a dead
end street. They get a lot of people who just need to tum around because they have tumed in
� the wrong place. To their north there are the apartment buildings that can be seen behind her
house, apartment buildings and townhomes. The density is already there; the vacancy rate is
already there. There must be four of those townhomes right now for rent. Her concem is that
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as a taxpayer in Fridley, what about the absentee landlord. She is paying the taxes but she is
the one who has to keep track of that property in order to maintain the value of her home. ^
There is pride in ownership, and she doesn't believe there is in rental and doesn't believe this is
effective utilization of the property. �
Ms. Reynolds asked that if this property has had single-family dwelling on it since 1946, how did
it get zoned M-1?
Ms. Stromberg stated the house was constructed prior to 1949. Fridley didn't become a city
until 1949. So, they don't have any records of anything that was constructed prior to 1949. She,
too, is unclear why the zoning is the way it is.
Ms. Reynolds stated she guessed it would probably be because it abuts up to some of the
businesses on that back side that connect via the little road to Medtronic. She just thinks it is a
poor spot to be trying to put in 8 more families.
Ms. Reynolds stated that in stipulations #15, #16, and #17, talking about changing the tum-
around, does that mean the cul-de-sac?
Ms. Stromberg stated, no, that tum-around is within the development.
Ms. Reynolds stated that the owners of the apartment building at the end of the street did a
beautiful job of remodeling. They put in garages, but their parking is nowhere sufficient for the
number of residents they have. So, they park on the street. Even during the period of time in
the winter from November 1 through April 1, there is parking in front of that apartment building.
Now, she doesn't know if they have some special privilege that the rest of the neighbors don't �
have. She got a ticket for parking in front of her own home. She just thinks this is too many
people in a small space.
Ms. Johns commented she had some concems about the trees.
Mr. Juaire stated that regarding the absentee landlord, he owns properly in Columbia Heights,
Fridley, and Mounds View. Previously he was an engineer for 20 some years and started this
business in 1988. He stated he is not an absent landlord. He takes very good care of his
properties, and he does a very careful job of selecting tenants. Any difficulties would be dealt
with immediately.
Mr. Juaire stated this property is being requested to be replatted so each of these townhomes
may in the future be owner-occupied. They are being established in such a way that they can
be owner-occupied. He has had many of his tenants, many of them are professionals, that the
next step after leaving his place would be to go out and purchase a home. The type of
townhomes that he owns are in a category that requires a good stable job, and quite a few of
these people stay with him for a year, maybe two years, and then the next step is buying a
home. A few of them have even talked about the rent-to-own kind of situation which is one of
the reasons he is establishing this property in the way he is requesting.
Mr. Juaire stated that regarding parking, each one of the townhomes are proposed to have a
finro-car garage with an additional two spaces for parking in front of the garage. The parking
space in front of the garage is 45 feet deep which includes the driveway, so it's 20 feet deep for
parking space and 25 feet deep for drive. And there is additional space in between so they
would be able to put like a dozen cars out of the garage area so the residents themselves have �
their cars in the garage. They would be able to put another dozen cars off the street in that
paved area.
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n Mr. Juaire stated that regarding the trees, on the landscape plan he believed at least five,
maybe six trees are going to be kept up. Some are in the way of the building so they have to be
� taken out. But, they will keep all the trees they can. Most of the trees that are being kept are
on the south properly line.
Mr. Saba asked whether those would be identified prior to construction?
Mr. Juaire replied, yes. In fact, he thought it was part of a stipulation, but there definitely was a
request to fence around those with one of the orange fences to protect them from contractors.
Mr. Saba and Ms. Johns commented that the landscaping has to be approved.
Mr. Saba asked Mr. Juaire what his plans were to make these all rental units?
Mr. Juaire replied that, initially, the units will be rented, and he is in the process of looking into
the rent-to-own situation. So, that is why they are being individually platted with separate
services and separate everything so they can be sold.
Mr. Dunham asked if there would then be an association.
Mr. Juaire replied, yes. He will own the outlot to begin with, and he is working with a lawyer to
set it up.
Ms. Johns asked Mr. Juaire if he owns any property now in Fridley?
'� Mr. Juaire replied he owns a duplex at 5622-5624 4th Street and a four-plex at 56th and 4�' ,
Street. The tenants are professional-type people, and he has no problems.
Mr. Saba asked him to again explain the parking. There is space for two cars in the garage and
finro cars in the driveway. He asked if there was space other than that for off-street parking for
guests?
Mr. Juaire replied he was indicating the area that would be a pull-up. There are four
landscaping islands that are wide enough. Now that the islands have been made shorter by one
of the stipulations to actually be able to parallel park in front of the landscaping island. They
can't park on the tum-around as it will be designated a°no parking area°, and they can't park
out on the drive, because that is designated as a"no parking area", fire lane. But there would
be 8 spaces total directly in front of the garages and then spaces at the end of the landscaping
islands.
Ms. Cindy Mabel asked if it would be possible for them to get a copy of the map showing
"Norton Mano�' and the stipulations. She personally can't envision how all of this development
and all these parking spaces are going to fit on that amount of land. She also wanted to know
what is in it for the City of Fridley. They all know they will be looking at their taxes being raised.
With the lack of state aid coming, the City is going to be a pinch. Are they going to get enough
property taxes off this use of the land to pay for the education and all the other services that the
City of Fridley is going to have to put back into these eight homes?
MOTION by Ms. Johns, seconded by Mr. Saba, to close the public hearing.
� UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SAVAGE DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED AND THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED AT 8:15 P.M.
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Ms. Johns stated that regarding rezoning this property, it makes sense that it doesn't need to be �
M-1 zoning. She thinks it should be rezoned, and it is typical of that neighborhood to be zoned
R-3. She doesn't have a problem with the rezoning. �
Mr. Saba stated he does. He is a little afraid of what R-3 could do in the future, especially if it
stays rental. He would much rather see something else besides this, like a planned unit
development. This development and the other property could be included in a planned unit
development so there are more restrictions on the lot and on the development so that what goes
there, stays there, and is confined to some type of an agreement, like a townhouse agreement.
Mr. Dunham stated he was not sure he had a problem with what the petitioner is doing, but if
Mr. Juaire was really intending to ever convey the units individually, is this going to be the right
way to do it?
Ms. Stromberg replied, yes, because he is platting them each individually. The Commission will
be reviewing the plat next on the agenda.
Ms. Savage replied she did not have a problem with this, and it appears to be a nice
development. Frankly, legally, she doesn't see any way they could deny this request. It seems
like the rest of the neighborhood is multi-family. From looking at the property, looking at the
plans, and listening to the petitioner, she believed this is going to be an asset to the
neighborhood.
MOTION by Ms. Johns, seconded by Mr. Dunham, to approve rezoning, ZOA #03-01, by
Michael Juaire, to rezone from M-1, Light Industrial, to R-3, General Multiple Units, to ^
accommodate a townhome development, generally located at 1152 Norton Avenue NE, with the
following stipulations:
1. The final landscape plan shall meet code requirements for number of and sizes of
plantings and be reviewed and approved by City staff prior to issuance of a building
permit.
2. A landscape plan for the ponding area, in lieu of fencing, shall be reviewed and
approved by City staff prior to issuance of a building permit.
3. A storm pond maintenance agreement shall be filed with the City prior to issuance of a
building permit.
4. All landscaped areas shall have irrigation installed.
5. The proposed walkway shall be concrete.
6. Brick type and application on elevations and other extemal building materials shall be
reviewed and approved by City staff prior to issuance of a building permit.
7. A grading and drainage plan shall be submitted and approved by the City's engineering
staff prior to issuance of a building permit.
8. The sewer connection shall be located near the cul-de-sac.
9. The six-inch water main shall be looped according to City engineering staff s
specifications.
10. A 12-foot utility and drainage easement shall be granted along the entire southem edge
of the property prior to final plat.
11. A 25-foot easement from the center line of Norton Creek on the west side of the property
shall be granted prior to final plat.
12. The parking lot shall be constructed to code standards.
13. All elements of the building shall meet the current building code and be approved by the ,�
City Building Official.
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14. The petitioner shall pay the applicable park dedication fee of $1,500 per unit prior to the
�.-� issuance of any building permits.
15. The fire tumaround shall be redesigned to meet the City's Fire Department standards.
- 16. The driveway and fire tumaround shall be designed to 9-ton standards. (coRected —
should be 9-ton standards, not 20-ton standards)
17. The fire turnaround shall be posted, °No Parking Fire Lane."
18. The size of the landscape islands shall be reduced by 5 feet in order to accommodate
fire equipment.
19. The petitioner shall meet all Rice Creek Watershed District's requirements prior to
issuance of a building permit.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, DUNHAM, JOHNS, SAVAGE VOTING AYE, AND SABA VOTING
NAY, CHAIRPERSON SAVAGE DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED ON A 3-1 VOTE.
2. PUBLIC HEARING
Consideration of a plat, PS 03-01, by Michael Juaire, to plat for a townhome
development, generally located at 1152 Norton Avenue NE.
MOTION by Ms. Johns, seconded by Mr. Saba, to open the public hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SAVAGE DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY AND THE PUBLIC HEARING OPENED AT 8:17 P.M.
Ms. Stromberg stated the petitioner, Michael Juaire of PMJ Group, is requesting to replat the
property located at 1152 and 1170 Norton Avenue to create 9 separate lots from Lot 11,
� Auditor's Subdivision #89, in order to construct an 8-unit renter-occupied townhome
r development.
Ms. Stromberg stated 1152 Norton Avenue is zoned M-1, Light Industrial. The existing home
was built prior to 1949 and the existing garage was built in 1967. Both of these structures would
be removed to accommodate the proposed townhome development, and the petitioner is also
applying for the rezoning of the property as is known.
Ms. Stromberg stated 1170 Norton Avenue is zoned R-3, Multiple Family. The existing home
was built prior to 1949. This home will also have to be removed to accommodate the townhouse
development and, as they have been discussing, all of the surrounding properties are zoned R-
3, Multiple Family.
Ms. Stromberg stated the petitioner plans to locate his storm pond along the northern edge of
the property line close to the entrance of the development. He plans to construct a fence to
surround the storm pond. Staff believes that the image of a pond that is properly landscaped is
an aesthetically pleasing element for a townhome development; however, fencing a pond would
change that image. Fencing in a pond would not only create an unattractive first image as you
enter the development, but it also could be detrimental to the safety of children. The petitioner
should design the pond using landscaped materials to create a natural amenity and, if the pond
in this location warrants a fence, the pond should be relocated on the site. The proposed
townhome development meets all lot size setback, lot coverage, and parking requirements.
Ms. Stromberg stated staff has heard from iwo neighboring property owners who expressed
concems about tra�c, parking, the number of units, sewer capacity, and tree replacement.
,� Ms. Stromberg stated City staff recommends approval of the plat request with stipulations as
this request provides additional housing opportunities for Fridley residents. The stipulations for
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the plat request are the same as what was stipulated on the rezoning request and can be found
in the packet. ^
Mr. Saba asked the petitioner if he was going to use maintenance-free siding on all exteriors? �
Mr. Juaire replied, yes.
Ms. Johns asked Mr. Juaire if he was just going to demolish the two existing homes and dispose
of the debris or if he was going to deconstruct them. Did he know about deconstruction?
Mr. Juaire stated the home at 1170 Norton Avenue is going to be destroyed and disposed of as
it is in pretty rough shape. The existing home at 1152 Norton Avenue was recently remodeled
and is in pretty good shape. It has a relatively irregular shape to it. He doesn't know if there are
any documents that would show it, but it has had multiple add-ons and he has two house
moving companies that are going to look at moving it. If it can be moved, they will do that.
Ms. Johns stated that in some homes, especially homes built early in Fridley's history, the
products that were made, whether it's the windows or parts and pieces of the house, are
valuable to adjacent properties.
Mr. Juaire stated he would not throw anything away that can be saved. There is a separate
sauna at 1152 Norton Avenue that is not going to be thrown away.
Mr. Saba asked if the garage doors are going to be equipped with automatic garage door
openers.
Mr. Juaire replied, yes, all of his townhomes have automatic garage door openers. �
Ms. Johns asked whether the utility shed that is located on the plan to the west of the nearest
lot 8 is going to house things that are going to take care of the property itself.
Mr. Juaire replied the utility shed at the west end will house both the controls for the irrigation
system, lawn irrigation system, and fire protection sprinkler system. Those will be monitored
controls.
Ms. Johns asked if each of these homes would have garbage pickup by entering the lot at
Outlot A.
Mr. Juaire replied, yes.
Ms. Johns asked if garbage and recycling would be within the garages and set out for pickup.
Mr. Juaire stated the driveways will be constructed to street standards so the garbage trucks
would come in. The garbage containers wouldn't be put on the curb; they would be put on Outlot
A.
Mr. Saba stated that on the rear elevation, it looks like there are dividers between each set of
patio doors?
Mr. Juaire replied, yes, each patio has its own private area.
Ms. Pam Reynolds stated that, again, her question is who is going to pay for the damages to the ,�
road with the heavy equipment needed for this development? She is thinking mostly of the big
construction trucks as Norton Avenue is not in that great of shape. She doesn't know when it is
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scheduled to be resurfaced, but that amount of construction equipment and that amount of
� movement is going to damage the street and then the City is going to assess everybody on the
street.
Ms. Reynolds stated the Planning Commission has to think about the residents who are already
living here and the current use of that property. The residents live there, pay taxes, and some
consideration needs to be given to them. Part of the reason that Ms. Mabel and her daughter
are the only ones at the meeting is because Ms. Mabel is one of the only people who got a
public hearing notice.
Ms. Reynolds stated she owns her home. She doesn't understand this, but the only people the
City sends notices to are within 350 feet and Ms. Mabel is the only one who got a notice. She is
sure the other rental property owners don't care. But the density in that area is already so
highly rental and what happens ten years down the line when Mr. Juaire decides to sell the
development? Then who takes care of it? Then what do the residents do? She asked if there
was a road behind this property that borders Medtronic?
Ms. Stromberg replied, yes, but it's on Medtronic properly.
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Mr. Dunham, to close the public hearing.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SAVAGE DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY AND THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 8:28 P.M.
Mr. Saba asked about who would be liable for the road damage. Would the contractor be
� liable?
Ms. Stromberg stated that, yes, the contractor would be responsible for any damage to the road.
Mr. Saba stated he didn't have a problem with the plat; he just had a problem with the rezoning.
Ms. Johns stated she knows the Rice Creek Watershed District through the EQE Commission.
The Rice Creek Watershed District are pretty strict on a lot of its requirements and what is going
on in the Rice Creek area. She feels comfortable that the RCWD has looked at this proposed
development and has made requests for some changes. The plat request looks good, and she
believed the parking issues have been addressed for the most part.
Mr. Dunham stated the units are good sized units, and he believed they are going to be a lot
nicer than people think. There is a lot of footage to them, they are not minimum standards.
These are not inexpensive rental units at all. They are very nice. He doesn't have a problem
with them.
Ms. Savage stated she didn't either.
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Mr. Dunham, to recommend approval to City Council of PS
03-01, by Michael Juaire, to plat for a townhome development, generally located at 1152 Norton
Avenue NE, with the following stipulations:
1. The final landscape plan shall meet code requirements for number of and sizes of
plantings and be reviewed and approved by City staff prior to issuance of a building
permit.
�-., 2. A landscape plan for the ponding area, in lieu of fencing, shall be reviewed and
approved by City staff prior to issuance of a building permit.
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3. A storm pond maintenance agreement shall be filed with the City prior to issuance of a
building permit. ^
4. All landscaped areas shall have imgation installed.
5. The proposed walkway shall be concrete. �
6. Brick type and application on elevations and other extemal building materials shall be
reviewed and approved by City staff prior to issuance of a building permit.
7. A grading and drainage plan shall be submitted and approved by the City's engineering
staff prior to issuance of a building permit.
8. The sewer connection shall be located near the cul-de-sac.
9. The six-inch water main shall be Iooped according to City engineering staff s
specifications.
10. A 12-foot utility and drainage easement shall be granted along the entire southem edge
of the property prior to final plat.
11. A 25-foot easement from the center line of Norton Creek on the west side of the property
shall be granted prior to final plat.
12. The parking lot shall be constructed to code standards.
13. All elements of the building shall meet the current building code and be approved by the
City Building Official.
14. The petitioner shall pay the applicable park dedication fee of $1,500 per unit prior to the
issuance of any building permits.
15. The fire tumaround shall be redesigned to meet the City's Fire Department standards.
16. The driveway and fire tumaround shall be designed to 9-ton standards. (corrected —
should be 9-ton standards, not 20-ton standards)
17. The fire tumaround shall be posted, °No Parking Fire Lane."
18. The size of the landscape islands shall be reduced by 5 feet in order to accommodate
fire equipment. �
19. The petitioner shall meet all Rice Creek Watershed District's requirements prior to
issuance of a building permit.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SAVAGE DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Savage stated the rezoning and plat requests will go to the City Council on March 3, 7:30.
The Council will make the final decision on these requests.
3. RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 8 2003 APPEALS COMMISSION
MEETING.
MOTION by Ms. Johns, seconded by Mr. Saba, to receive the January 8, 2003, Appeals
Commission meeting minutes.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SAVAGE DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
4. RECEIVE THE MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 9 2003 HOUSING AND
REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING.
MOTION by Mr. Saba, seconded by Mr. Dunham, to receive the January 9, 2003, Housing and
Redevelopment Authority meeting minutes.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SAVAGE DECLARED THE ��
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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5. OTHER BUSINESS:
Ms. Stromberg stated the next meeting is March 5 and there is one item which is a plat request.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION by Ms. John, seconded by Mr. Saba, to adjoum the meeting.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON SAVAGE DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY AND THE FEBRUARY 19, 2003, PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:32 P.M.
RespectFully submitted,
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Denise M. Letendre �
Recording Secretary