EQE 04/13/2010 - 29867Call to Order
MINUTES
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND ENERGY COMMISSION
FRIDLEY MUNICIPAL CENTER, 643� UNIVERSITY AVE NE
TUESDAY, APRIL �3, zo�o, 7:0o P.M.
Chairperson Velin called the meeting to order at 7:03 p.m.
Roll Call
Members Present
Members Absent:
Others Present:
Barb 7ohns, Tina Nelson, Rich Svanda, 7ack Velin, Paul Westby
Anne Andrews
Rachel Harris, Environmental Planner
Julie Jones, Planning Manager
Bill Burns, City Manager
Fritz Knaak, City Attorney
Sig Scheurle, MPCA
Scott Lund, Fridley Mayor
Mr Delaney, Riverview Terrace Resident
APPROVAL OF MARCH 9, 2010, ENVIRONNIENTAL QUALITY & ENERGY
COMMISSION MINUTES:
MOTION by Ms. Johns to amend minutes to state that she was in attendance at the March 9
meeting, although she did arrive 40 minutes late, and motion seconded by Mr. Svanda to approve
the March 9, 2010, Environmental Quality & Energy Commission minutes.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON VEL1N DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
New Business
Panel Discussion Part 1: Benefits and challenges of implementing a city-wide organized
garbage collection
Dr. Burns, Fridley City Manager, introduced Part 1 of the panel discussions. He shared the
November 2009 Star Tribune article that lead to residents contacting the city to request a change
in street traffic. These factors led to further research by city staff. In response to resident
concerns, Dr. Burns decided to write a series of newsletter articles to educate our citizens.
Residents had responded to Mayor Lund with 21 comments in favor of organized garbage hauling
and six were opposed. Additionally, Mr. Delaney, a resident, brought up the topic of garbage
hauling in open forum at a recent City Council meeting.
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Dr. Burns shaped a several month-long study plan about garbage transportation that will create an
open and informational dialog. Various aspects about garbage transportation will be covered
throughout the year and possibly in to ne�t year. This study plan was delivered with the March
2010 agenda packet to EQE Commissioners. There is a need for case history on law and to listen
to other cities about open hauling versus organized collection.
Dr. Burns introduced part one of the study plan. He said the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency
(MPCA) produced a study of organized garbage collection systems and efforts and Mr. Sig
Scheurle, MPCA staffwas here to tell us about the collection systems study.
Mr. Scheurle covered key points of the report. He said the MPCA had not taken a position for or
against organized collection. When Minnesota cities considered making a change in garbage
transportation systems the leadership worked with committees such as EQEC. He mentioned that
information was gathered from the MN Commerce about money spent in the garbage business. It
is a large industry and $1 billion per year is spent on solid waste in Minnesota; and $5.58 million is
for trash.
Mr. Scheurle said the cities that do have organized collection have incentives to reduce waste,
offer a lower monthly cost to residents, and customers are more likely to focus on prevention and
recovery of trash materials. One thing that haulers have done is send mailings about garbage
transportation to retain existing customers and no cities have switched to organized garbage since
1991 because of effectiveness of the haulers' media campaigns. Haulers oppose organized hauling
because they lose fle�bility in pricing. For them, organized hauling can mean a loss of revenue.
Haulers have attempted to sue cities for condemnation; however, the legal issue of condemnation
has not been settled in haulers favor since 1993.
Mr. Scheurle said that a recent study by the City of Falcon Heights revealed that 72 percent of the
US cities outside of Minnesota have one hauler for garbage transportation while 29 percent of
Minnesota's cities have one hauler.
Mr. Westby asked why MN has fewer cities with one hauler.
Mr. Scheurle said MN has a law that is protective of haulers and the law was established at the
time when MN had a vibrant mix of small, independent haulers.
Mr. Scheurle continued his presentation. He reported that a portion of the fees associated with
Robbinsdale's organized garbage collection system is directed to a$150,000 capital improvement
fund that maintains streets. Garbage trucks, both empty and full, are among heaviest on the road,
based on axel weight. The City of Falcon Heights attributes wear on streets to garbage trucks.
Mr. Scheurle concluded that the household trash rate is lower with an organized garbage hauling
system. A city effectively manages contract and becomes a negotiator for households. Also,
recycling capture rates are higher with organized garbage hauling. There is reduced air pollution
and truck noise. The MPCA study, however, is opposed by garbage haulers. Another factor to
consider is the additional administrative burden for a city.
Mr. Scheurle said several Twin Cities area municipalities are studying organized trash collection
systems. These are Golden Valley, Maplewood, St Paul, Fridley, and Edina. Nearby cities [to
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Fridley] that have organized trash collection are Columbia Heights, Blaine, and Robbinsdale. If a
city chooses to pursue organized garbage collection, the process will test solidarity of City
Council. They will run into organized opposition from the garbage haulers. Helping residents
understand pros and cons will help the process. It's also good to understand ongoing
administrative costs.
Mayor Lund asked if Mr. Scheurle has ever heard of a city that reverted from organized to open
hauling.
Mr. Scheurle said he had, but, that was because the city was at odds with the county solid waste
board.
Mr. Delaney suggested we could have a zone collection to offer part of the city to each of our
four licensed haulers.
Mr. Scheurle said that was a possibility for the community to consider.
Mr. Delaney wondered why are haulers are typically opposed to organized collection.
Mr. Scheurle said haulers would lose the flexibility of charging a variety of prices to their
customer base.
Mr. Knaak asked which is more common, a zone collection or one hauler for entire city.
Mr. Scheurle said one hauler for entire city is more common, though with the flexibility in the law
haulers can bid for zone districts.
Mr. Svanda said we already have districts in our city.
Ms. Jones said it depends on what you want to do and based on her experience at Crystal there
are legalities with creating a zone system because you need to create a consortium of haulers.
Dr. Burns asked about Mr. Scheurle's experience with consortiums of haulers.
Mr. Scheurle said that concept has faded —all haulers to jointly set route
Mr. Knaak asked if anyone use municipal employees.
Mr. Scheurle said Red Wing, St. Cloud, half of Minneapolis and Moorehead.
Mr. Knaak asked if there was much difference in the cost between city workers versus private
workers for hauling garbage.
Mr. Scheurle said not much.
Mr. Lund said Blaine used to collect trash with city workers and switched to using the garbage
hauling company's staff.
Ms. Johns asked if we know the council's position.
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Dr. Burns said that they have not taken a position.
Mr. Lund said Council has asked the EQE Commission to take a look at the issue and then the
Council will take up the issue.
Mr. Westby asked if switching to organized trash would heavily weigh on staff.
Ms. Johns said that was not addressed yet.
Mr. Scheurle said it is worthwhile to talk to other cities.
Staff Report
Results from April paper shredding and preliminary results from spring recycling drop-off
Ms. Harris reported that Randy's Document Destruction division helped dozens of people safely
recycle important papers. At least 4,500 pounds of paper was recycled from 9am -12noon on
Saturday, April 3. The spring recycling drop-off day on April 10, served 286 vehicles and was a
success. Many residents e�tended their gratitude to the City for offering this service. People did
not mind paying fees. EQE Commissioners Mr. Svanda and Ms. Andrews volunteered at the
event as did planning manager Ms. Jones. Ms. Harris e�tends her appreciation for their
contribution.
Ms. 7ohns wondered if the high turn out because of timing of the mailing and that it arrived in
peoples' mailboxes a week in advance. She asked if the recycling drop-off had enough volunteers.
Ms. Harris said there were enough volunteers. The vehicle traffic flowed smoothly once she
adjusted the staffing at the entrance gates from two to four people. Regarding the mailing, she
typically plans that the recycling drop-off brochure will arrive one to two weeks in advance of the
event.
Mr. Svanda commented on what he observed while volunteering at the electronics station. He
found it was easier to unload vehicles because they were staggered at the gate.
Meeting 1 of DNR Critical Area rules revision process
administration of critical area rules
why redoing the rules? We are implementing the executive order (already in e�stence), these
DNR MCCRA rules will help with implementing the Exec Order.
workgroup - we provide input into the MRCCA draft. In each geographic workgroup, we'll
determine how the resources will be collected, not what will be protected
timeline - there will be 2 more workgroup meetings before the rule writing deadline in Sept 2010.
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topics — interagency and inter-rule definition matching.
BJ: the enforcement falls by the wayside, dump leaves in waterway, throw brush.
RH: Agrees that enforcement is a challenge. We have multiple agencies that oversee the river.
Old Business
There was no old business to report.
Other Business/Announcements
North Metro Sustainability Roundtable, Fridley Municipal Center, May 13, 2010, 3-8pm
Ms. Harris hopes that at least one EQE Commissioner is able to attend the North Metro
Sustainability Roundtable and then report back to the commission at a the ne�t meeting. She said
the topics to be covered are water quality, blue star cities, rain barrels, rain gardens, composting,
urban forestry/ tree planting, volunteer-based habitat restoration and green streets.
Ms. Harris asked if there are any topics they would like to learn about.
Mr. Westby requests that all property owners within'/z mile radius of the river corridor prevent
any further application of pesticides and herbicides.
Landscaping for water quality — Blue Thumb and FMR resources on the web
Ms. Harris recently included landscaping for water quality information inside the annual curbside
recycling brochure. Both the Blue Thumb and Friends of the Mississippi River are internet-based
resources and have several articles about rain gardens, rain barrels, and shore stabilization.
Ms. Harris handed out the Blue Thumb Gardening Pledge to EQE Commissioners and
encouraged them to fill it out or share it with a neighbor.
Ms. Harris reminded the EQE Commissioners about two upcoming meetings. At the May 11,
2010, EQE Commission meeting we will hear Panel Discussion, Part 2: Legal requirements for
establishing organized garbage collection systems with case history and limitations of city charter
by Fritz Knaak, City Attorney. On June 24, 2010, 6— 8 p.m., commissioners will have an
opportunity to provide environmental education while walking in the annual 49ers Parade. We can
do our best work if we have at least five commissioners to hand out 2,500 pencils made from
recycled newspaper. Ms. Harris handed out samples of the pencils to the EQE Commissioners.
Mr. Westby said it is important to reach all the watching the parade including the ones seated
away from the street. He said he really has to distribute the trinkets creatively to get to all the
people in the back rows.
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ADJOURNIVIENT
APPROVAL OF ADJOURNING THE APRIL 13, 2010, ENVIRONIVIENTAL QUALITY &
ENERGY COMMISSION MEETING.
MOTION by Rich Svanda, seconded by Paul Westby, to adjourn the meeting.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON VEL1N DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED AND THE APRIL 13, 2010, ENVIRONIVIENTAL QUALITY &
ENERGY CONINIISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:54 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Rachel Harris
Environmental Planner and Staff Liaison
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