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° MiNUTES OF THE REGULAR PARKS RND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 24, 1975
M�MQERS PRESENT: Caldwell, Harris, Peterson, Seeger, ldagar
MEMBERS EXCUSED. None
OTNERS PRESENT: Lillian ��teyer, 7868 Alden Way, N.E., 571-5328 - League of 4lomen Vot�rs
Leonard t�loore, 8301 Riverview Terrace, 784-7762 - Riverview Hgts. A��oun
Paul Brown, Director, Parks & Recreation (9:30 p.m.) . P
Judy Wyatt, Secretary, Parks & Recreation
I. Meeting cailed to order at 7:40 p.m.
II. Motion by Caldwell, secanded by Harris, to accept Minutes of October 27, 1975.
Motion carried.
III. F.Y.F.A. - Football Field - Comnons Park
A. Commission Comments
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F,Y.F.A. has wanted to resod field for 5 to 6 years
Parks Department waM�ted to reseed, now ready to try resodding, s�:�c�
reseeding unsuccessful
F.Y.F.A. offered to buy and lay sod
�'ield does not seem to drain pr�perly, but was surveyed by City Enqineers
and is laid out correctly to drain
Must do some grading
Needs more crown on �lateau
Irrigation system will have to be adjusted if the plateau is raised
B. Motion by Harris, seconded by Seeger,,to ask our staff to prepare,a proposal
� for preparing the field for res�dding, and also tha t a proposal be furnished
I��- by the F.Y.F.A. concerning what they intend to do in regard to sodding the
football field. Then the Parks & Recreation Commission will make a determi-
i nation to either c�nfirm or re�ect that proposal. Motion carried.
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C. Secretary instructed to prepare letter to Frank Hari, F.Y.F.A., asking for
above proposal. Letter to be signed by Cf�airman Peterson
IV. M(iViCi� of Ol.d Piano 6uildiny on Central to Madsen Park
A. Commission Comments
1. Owner indicated he would give building to City if they had use for it
2. Suggestion made to Paul Brown to use for warming house at t�adsen
3. Cost is prohibitive to move onto site and remodel - approximately
$25.00/sq. ft.
B. Staff Comments
1. Too expensive to remodel - estimated total $41,620.(incl.udi.ng.�r�mo�eling
cost) '
V. Gir1s Softball Pragram
A. Commission Comments
1. Disagreement �ti�ith letter from F.Y.F.A. regarding division of responsi-
bil�ties for F.Y.F.A. and City .
B. Motion by Harris, secon�ed by Seeger, to hold over this i�em until the
Comnission can discuss it h'�it�i r'aul Bror��n. Niotion carried. '
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MIt�OTES OF THE REGULAR PARKS & RECREATION C4MMISSIQN MEETING NOVEMBER 24, 1975 (2)
'� VI: Survey and Request for Warming House at Springbrook Park
A. Motion by Caldwell, seconded by Seeger, to accept Mr. Moore's survey. Motion
carried.
6. Citizen Co�nents - teonard Moore
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Wants warming house, tennis court, volleyball caurt, etc., at Springbrook
Park
Much vandalism in neighborhood due ta children having nothing to do
Gang fights
Children need s.omething to keep them busy
Park tgnored by City .
Went to City Council first, was referred to Parks & Recreation Commission
Has set up action committee to bring pressure to bear
A1so w�nts docking facilities
Park aiready has swings, slide, etc., but needs better set
Suggested that a Mr. Clark (lives in neighborhood) oversee warming
house when it is put in, to help overcome vandalism
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Other areas need warming houses too
No money in budget
City rs short ab�ut five warming houses
Someone is sel1ing a pre-built single car garage structure for
approximately $800 which might be a solution
Could be modified to be a warming house
That type of building would be better than what we have at Madsen
Maybe warming house at Madsen co�(ld be moved to Springbrook Park and
get nQw one for Madsen
Letters could be written to civic groups requesting funds for warming
houses
Madsen warming house too small for skaters, small children never get
in it
ldant nice permanent shelier
Need bond issue for impro�rements
Parks and Recreation Department tries to do capital improvement
projects out of day to day.budget; not warking
Five years behind -- no money to do �t
Parks and Recreation staff pres�nted a budget:of over $700,Oa to Garr�nission
who trimmed it to $531,000 because they have to stay within 6%; Cit�
Council trirr�ned it further, then they send Mr. Moore back to the Parks
and Recreation Commission to get money, wF�ich the Corr�ission doesn't
have
Questioned the problem of vandalism if warming house put in park
Quesiion raised whether or not there was a garage available to rent
for winter, none known of �
No building available to mo��e to Springbrook Park
Have overlooked, when evaluating needs, tha� kids in this area are
getting into trouble; should be a consideration
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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION PREETING NQVEMBER 24, 1975 (3)
C. Motion by Harris, seconded by Caldwell, to request the Parks and Recreation
Director to investigate the possibi]ity of getting three prefab single car -
garage structures for locations at the parks not equipped with warming
house facilities. If that facility cannot support, because of size, location,
etc., a permanent structure, to come back with alternates in these cases.
The motion carried.
VII. PJame the Parks
A. Corranission Comments
1. Asked secretary to give Lillian Meyer list of parks to be named, in order
for her to get some suggestions from League of Women Voters
VIII. Goals and Objectives - Project Car,�mittee�
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Better to have fewer committees with more people than one person
comnittees
One of most needed corr�nittees is one to find out how to raise funds;
cannot continue to operate�a capital improvements program out of an
operating budget -
N.A.F., F.Y.F.A., and Babe Ruth organization should be told of the
project concept being instituted and ask them for volunteers to serve
How do you set up a neighborhood park group and what do you use to
govern it?
Need to start the project committees going in four areas:
a) dollars
b) organization
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d) facilities �
Need to get a variety of people involved in order io get a.broad
spectrum from City involved, i.e., senior citizens, hockey, etc.
Project committees on programs, for instance, will eventually have
sub-committees going in the various areas to get feedback, so each
citizen will have opportunity to tell how he feels.about our programs
Project committees will come back'with a written report of what we
should have in the City, based on the input from the neighborhaods,
League of t�tomen Voters, Senior Citizens, and concerned citizens _
Up to Commision to devise plan of attack to get this program
comnittee information out to people in neighborhoods
Project committees will have to go to each neiohborhood through a
subcommittee and ask the people what they want
Goals contir�ually changing; directions on project committees can be
changed by new Commissioners as they change �
Can put this item over to December meeting, but must get s�tarted
with a set number of project committees soon, give them a charge,
and set started
B. Staff Comments
1. Mr. 6rown will ask Minneapolis for their by-laws for corrxnunity groups
� MINUTES OF THE REGULAR PARKS AND R�CREATION C0�7MISSION MEETING NOVEMBER 24, 1975 (4)
� IX. Motion to adjourn meeting at 10:30 p.m. Motion passed.
X. Next regular meeting will be held on Monday, December 22, 1975, at 7:30 p.m.
, in �the Classroom of Fridley Civic Center.
Res ectfully submitted,
d W a , Secreta�to the Commission
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