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PR 12/22/1975 - 31205- MINUTFS OF THE REGULAR PARKS AND RECREATTON COMMISSION MEETIt1G DECEMBER 22, 1975 � Meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Chairman Peterson. MEMBERS PRESENT: Caldwell, Harris, Peterson, Seeger MEMBfRS EXCUSED: Wagar OTHERS PRESENT: Frank�Hart5655432h-SF.Y.F.q,' 55432 - F.Y.F.A. Tom hehring, 291 67th Avenue, 55432 - F.Y.S.A. Joseph Mariotti, 690 Hugo St., 786-7745 - Riverview Terr. Leonard Moore, 8301 Riverview Terr, 7��-7762 " " Mr. & Mrs. Lambrecht, 531 l:imball St., NE, 784-5151 �� Tom Budnick, 601 N. E. Ir�nton St., 786-3015 �� Karen Sudnick, 6Q1 N.E. Ironton St., 786-3015 �� A. E. Budnick, 600 Pd. E. Iranto�� St. , 784-2350 �� Donna Budnick, b00 N. E. Ironton St., 784-2350 �� Uarrell Benson, 560 LaFa�ette Si., 7$4-9361 �� M�" t Castman 6�1 Glencee St., N,E.,.7II4-5897 � Car�n. Action Group� ,� �� �► � �� �� �� ,� �� �� �� �.� g� . , , , Henry Peterson, G312 P1erCe St., "s.E,, 571-�804 - Fridley 49'ers David Ols��, 719 Rickard �d., 571-5142 - Fridley City Band Niary Marti n, 133 S�:ar7ybrapl; N. �., 571-8770 " �� �� Meredith Schurr�, 851 Rice Creek Terr. 571-1113 Pau1 Brown, Director, Parks and Recrea�tion Departm�nt Judy Wyat�, Secret4�ry> Parlcs and Recreatio� Department MINUTES �n kivTION �3Y �A�DId�ELL, secvnd�d by 5eeger, to acc��� tlie, m%nute� uf. Noven�hex 2�,� 3975.. ""' Moti�n carried. � �... �� �� �� �� �� �� �� F.Y.S.A.. _ Mr. Frank tlart, President-Elec� ef the F:Y.F.�,. introduced himself an�i Messrs. � Tntn Nehrina, P��esident-Elect of the r.Y.S.A. �n� Ed Gupay, outgoing Fresident of the F.Y.F.A. He stated he was at the meetiny to di�cuss the f���ball fielcl a� tf�e Coman�ns. Mr. N�hring read a letter to the Comrr.ission fron� the F.Y.S.A. whict7 explained their plans regarding resoddir�g the field. It stateu that th� Assaciation agreed to pur- cha:se thP �od �nd pro��i de the 1 ab�r tU 1��Y the sod the f�al l v�i dth of the f i el d ari thi n the 30 yard line. To justify sucn an exper�ditur�e by th� Associa�ian, they felt �he City should have the field s�!rveyed and cro:ti+ned with the pro�Lr amount ef b1acE: dirt to an aece�tuble ievei to assure �ro�cr� dr-�inag�. iie said it was their feeling that if the fi�ld was properly crc���ned ar�a ,�aintained in the spring af the year, exe�essive deterioration to the midulc: rar� oF t";e fie�lci would cease to be a problem. Ne aiso said they wo�ld li�:e somQ ccr,s'ider����on be c��ven to ihe pl�yer bench area to accomrno-- date the increase in wa�pr on the fieici �iu� �:u t��e i!nproved dr��ir�age. Mr. Peterson �ave Mr. Nart a copy of t�e survey ef the �o�rnnons f`ield cnnducted b the City En ineers shawing �;he crosa 4ection e?evations. 7here �,►�s so�np di�cussi�n- as to wneth�r or nr�t the fi el d:� c+ �:rnP� pr'ope" i ti' and drai ns correct iy. Mr. Peterson asked h4r. t3rown if he had any inforr���an Lrt the various recem;nended elevati�ns far faotb�l l fields. �fr. 3rotim repl ;, �i t1���t we d�cl r��t have any such infarn�ation �in aur fiies. He cornr�entea that i� was im�c�ssiNle to t�uild the f�eld cliffet°entiy �r it would have t>�c��� dune in the fir�t p�ace. lie sair� this aaas d�.�� ta t�� H-inh Schoo: havin� �hc�ir �roperty east of ours, r�c� n?en� if�i:ed {;r�?t � ����oul� he im�ossible to make a� severe crc�wniny of-the fiel� �t�ithot��. rei�st�tli�zg thp irric,�ation �p-ipe, resetting �h��ds. e+:.c. m �+ �� �� �� „ �� _. _ _ _ i . .: . . Pdg@ 2 . •MINUTES OF THE REGULAR PARKS AND RECREATIOP� GOMMISSION M�EiING DEGEMBER 22, 1975 � Mr. Brown said he questioned whether or not we could crown the field to the standard football field specifications, but they can certainly get the low points out of it, raise some of the irrigation heads, etc. He said he would take the recorr�nen- dations of the Football Associat�on, turn it over to h�s people and see what they can do to come up with a subse�uent drawing for the Commission's approval. Mr. Harras asked how much blacic dirt would be ne�es�ary for the field; ihe F.Y.F.A. was uncertair� as to the exact amount. He said he would be willing to donate 500 to _ 600 yards of bTack dirt.if someone else would come and haul it. Mr. Brown assured the Commission that the Departr�ent and the F.Y.S.A. will work together toward getting the field in better condition. ^ � ,�, Mr. Harris suggested checking with the University regarding the irrigation pro- blem for the football field. After much discussion the Commissioners asked the Park Director and F.Y.S.A. to come back to the February meeting with a mutually acceptable proposal for the field. RIVERVIEW HEIGHTS COMMUNITY ACTIQN GROUP The group`was back to again request a warming house be put at Springbrook Park. Mr. Srown explained there were two alternatives:. l} a permanent shelter and 2) a mobile unit. He mentioned that there were three of the mobile units now in existance in the City. He said that the cost involved was of course appreciably different. He thought perhaps something �could be built along the idea of a single car garage. He also mentioned that if a she1ter was built, it would have to go one of two places, either along the east boundary in the mfddle of the park, or along the south boundary, due to the apparatus in the park, etc. Mr. Mariotti explained that the group has had several meetings discussing the type of warming house they would like ta see at the park. He stated they did not' want a"tacky" warming house; they wanted one which w�s attractive. Mr. Harris suggested building something similar to a single car garac�e with a� sr�all dc�or instead of a regular garage door. Mrs. Seeger suggested,cansidering a warming house built into the side of the hill with three sides below ground and one side exposed. _ _ � Mr. Peterson asked Mr. Brown if there was any type of building at ali available for this season, for the children to us.e. Mr. Brown explained that there was not, however perhaps they cauld ctieck into the possibility of borrowing a construc�ion shack for the season. He stated, however, that if they did, they wouid have to come up with several, as their first obligation was to Rice Creek School, as they are behind on their schedu]e for improving that area. Mr. Harris reminded Mr. arown of the problem they had last year trying to get a construction shack, due to the 1iab�lity factor. Mr. Peterson asked Mr. Brown to check with Mr. Brunsell, City Finance DireGtor, as far as liability. He said that he in turn would check with some people he knew. He explained to the Riverview people that the Commission would like to j have something in the way of a warming house for the parlc this year, hawever, budgets are made in July and August and their money for 1976 was already corr�ni`tted for the year: , Mr. Moore asked Mr. Brown to make the ice rink at the park larger and flocd.it more often. Mr. Brown stated he would take care of it. �` �.�,� _._,, Page 3 MINUTES OF THE REGULAR PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING DECEMBER 22: 1975 After a lengthy discussion on the possibility of a warming house for the park � "� Mr. Harris said he would get on the phone and see if he could find anyone who would donate a construction shack.to use this winter; then turn it over to Pau� to figurE out the liability angle. Mr. Peterson asked Mrs. Seeger to check into the warming house 'she was thinKing of, Mr. Harris to check into the construction shack and he himsQlf would �check into the one he was thinking of, and maybe between the three of them, they could eome up with something ta turn over to Paul. Mr. Peterson explained that it was not feasible at this time to expect the Commission to be able to put a permanent warming house in the 1976 budget. The money simply was not there. Ne said that the request far the warming house will . be put down for consideration for the 1977 budget, as are all requests. , Mrs. Seeger told the. Action Group that the Corrnnission needs to know what type of warming house they�want, what price range they are thinking of, what ideas they have as far as looks, etc., before the Commission can decide what to put up. Mr. Harris explained to the Action Group that as far as a permanent structures go, the warming house will probably be placed in the same priorities they've been placing buildings in the last four or five budgets that he has been involved with. He explained the priorities the Parks Department is already committed to, for instance Madsen Park, for which we paid the assessments to have water and power brought in, and we don't even have a building there yet. Ne mentioned that part of the priorities are based on how many children use a park for skating, the number � of hours of skating and hockey take place at a given park, etc. kle also said that, unfortunately, every time they put a warming house in the budget, the Cauncil cuts it out. Therefore, the Action Group should go to their councilman, their counciiman- . at-large, and the mayor for help, and explain the extenuating circumstances why - they feel they should have a warming house at their park. This is where the selling. . must be done. BANDSTAND Mr. Henry Peterson was present to request site approval from the Commission for construction of a bandstand in Fridley. If the C�ommission wi11 approve the site, tl�en - Mr.'Peterson stated he would'go'out and try to raise the money to build it. He said he had plans for a bandstand from onz of his friends who was superintendent of the Columbia Heights Park Board. He ecplair�ed that Columbia Heights has a new bandstand. Mr. Peterson told the Corr�nission he had already appeared befare the Council as an individual asking them to pass this request over to the Bicentennial 49'er Comr�ittee of fridley, to which he belongs. , Mr. Reterson explained the advantages o�' a bandstand and how much people wouJd enjoy it. He told �ihe Coimnissioners the site he had selected was the south end of Moore Lake, south of the flagpole. Ne said he had chosen this spot because of the traffic on Highway #65. He felt-this would draw people. -He said he was going to take this project back to �he 49'ers at their Jarruary ?th mePting, to ask for help in raising the money. '� Mr. Olson stated he would also like to see a;bandstand and he was there in z; support of Mr. Peterson's request. Meredithlsconcurred withMthe necessityrofaaso there to lend Mr. Peterson support. They al permanent bandstand to the people to enjoy. P��� a wMINUTES OF THE REGULAR PARKS AND RECREATiON COMP�1ISSi0N MEETING DECEMBER 22, 19;5, Mr. Peterson stated he had come to the meeting simply to ask for approval for site �►�. location and to put it in the 1977 budget, if they are unable to raise the complete ' amount needed to build the bandstand. Me explaine� the City would have contral of it. The Commissioners questioned the advisability of building it�e bandstand so close to traffic on highway #65. They felt it would be too noisy due to the traffic. The suggestion was made to perhaps build it near the other end of' tk�e lake beyond the beach area, however there is a ball diamand and tennis courts there. They also sug- � _ gested the possibility of West Moore Lake near the Dunes area. Mrs. Seeger expressed concern that the Theaire and Fine Arts groups get to use ihe bandstand when it is bui1t and that they could not use it properly if it were in a noisy area. MOT.ZON BY-HARRIS;-seconded by Caldwell, that the Parks and Recreation Commission go on record in supporting the construction of a bandstand for the City of Fridley, at a mutually agreeable-Zocation with the City Band and its officials, Parks and Recreatian City staff, and the Commzttee who wi11 undertake the project to constructthe buildinq. the theatre a nd fine a rts Mrs. Caldwell sec onded the motion with the stipulation that , � ` group have some input. The motion carried. � Mr. Brown stated he would like to pubYicly thank Mr. Otson and the Civic 8and for the fine 3ob t�iey have done in the past. He said the Department wanted to thank them. Mr. Peterson suggested Mr. Brow� put his thanks in the form of a letter to Mary Martin, President of the Band, on behalf of the Department and the Commission. : ' Mr. Brown suggested the idea of the band playing sometime in the winter at ^ either City Hall or in the Library. He said they might approach the City Council � on thai idea. Mr. Peterson suggesied Mr. Olson ge�t together with Mr. 8rown and � try to request it through the City Manager, rather than trying to get on the agenda � for a Council meeting. NAME THE PARKS Mrs. Seeger read a letter to the Corr�nission from Li�lian Meyer of the League af Women Voters listing suggestions from them for the names of the parks. MOTION BY HARRIS, seconded by Galdwell, to receive the Zetter. The motion carried, Mr. Harris commented that this item has been on the aaenda from month to month � waiting for.discussion when all the members could be present, and it has been difficult for them to all make it on the same night. He sai� that since our country,is entering into it's Bicentennial year we should consider using some of the many excellent names which could come from this celebration of our history. He said he had gotten tfii.s feeling from many people who felt the same way. He felt this would be much more. appropriate than some of the suggestions, i.e., Salamander, Mud Puppy, etc. He.said that he would come back to our next meeting with,some suggestions for names. DIRECTOR'S REPORT . Mr. Brown had given the commissioners a letter referring to a job offier he has � had from the A.S.A. in Okl�homa City. He_explained what the �osition entailed and � his possible acceptance, which will be based on the terms of the offer. " MOTION BY HARRIS, seconded by Caldwell to receive the Ietter. The motion carried. A .... ,... T„� orr.�i� nR PARKS ANQ RECfiEA�'I0�! COM�lI�SION MEETING �i{�u � �.J �%.� 111�+ • �- . . Page 5 DfCEMBER 22, 1915 � � �1���s sor.TE3n����koc�nM ; Mr, arown apologized to the �4��S��eirrthoughts that$thebFlY.S1Auaslletter�was : � girls program. Ne said he agreed with ut this,item on their agenda for the February ' a little out af line. Ne suggested they p I meeting and he would contact the F.Y.S.A. to come to the Commission to discuss the girls softball program. Ne said that evecanhonlh make�final•decisionstonrthose are�s they will make any final decis�ons, they Y under their jurisdiction, but the overall agreement gives the Commiss�on final deci- sions re��arding the program. Ne explaineditthe tolic9esehave beenrfargotten� hauled out and read every year, therefore, some o P WARMING NOUSE ATTENOANTS _ � Mr. Peterson expressed some concern as to whether or not warming fiouse attendants have copies of the warming house duties which they muntthe�dshould haveabeenewatch- � , others have seen the kids sitting around studying whe Y ing the children. Mr. arown answered that the kids do have rules to follow. Nir, Brown explained that we do have daily atts�doned whether o�rnotethenkidshweresrequired the usage ofi`the rinks. Mr. PEterson que to attend an orientation meeting; to which Mr. Brown replied that theofWthe�rir�k� Peterson asked the secretary to send out to the CommissionErs a copy ru1es which are in the Attendants' books. , , MOTION BY SEEGER, seconded by Caldwell to receive the letter from the 5pringbrook � Nature regardinq the naming of North Park. The motion carried. ` A90TION BY HARRIS, seconded by Caldwell, to receive a11 other letters and communi- cations sent to the Commission. The motion carried. MOTION BY SEEGER, seconded by Harris, to adjourn the meeting. The motion carried. The next regular meeting will be held on Tuesday, January 27, 1976 at 7:30 p.m. in the Classroam of Fri.dley Civic Center. Respect�ully submitted, � � udy W att, Sec tary to the Corr�nission ,� � � ; ,�� ,, . _ _�.`� .�-...