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. P�gKS & REC1€�TION COI�i1�itSSION
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_ JANLtARX 9; 1978
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• MEMBERS PRESENT: Bob Peterson, Robin Suhrbier, Leonard Moore,•
Jan See�er, Betty Mech
MEMBERS ABSEATT: None
pTHER�S PRESENT: Charles Boudreau, Parks & Recreation Di.rector
Jack K�-rk, Pragram Director
: Jerrold Boardman, Cifiy Planr►er
gay Leek, Planning Aide ,
Michael Fransen, Planning�DeFartment
Glenn Van Hulzen, F.Y.S.A.
CALL TO ORDEx:
Chairperson Peterson called the �eting to oxder at 7:32 p.m. , ;
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-�_ AFPROVAL UF AGENDA• � � '
pi�c . Boudreau requested that "RequesC by F�.Y . S.A. - Glenn �Fan Hul.zen;
Item B under "New Busine�s;' be put at the beginni,ng of �the ag,enda as
Mr. Van Hulzen had another meeting�to.attend that_eyenin�.
1+Uc. goud�eau also added the f�llowing items to the agenil,a:
"Co�unication ;from Kevin Benson" - Item C under "L�irector's R�port"
"Resolution R�qu�sting Bocc� B�11 Sets" - Item-�I� ��der '73i,rector's R�Port"
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��pN by Leonard Moore, seconded by Robin Suhrb3er, td aPProve the :
agenda as a�nded. UPon a voice vote, all voting aye, the motion carried
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g��ST BY F. Y. S. A.�- GLENN VAN HtiLZEN :
M�c. goudresu stated that he believed the Comm�ission had talked bri.efly
at ane time about:a building tn be located at C�flns P��k, and the F.Y.S.A.-
had nssw ct�e up with- a proposal for that building; :
'M�c. gulzen staCed that he would first like to thank S�� �°�stat d itrhade
'fine cooperatian the F.Y.S.A. h�� received in:the pa _
bee� a resl pleasure warking, with 'the Parks & Rec�eation l�gartsuent as ''t'hey
�� were very willing and very cooperative. �
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Mr. Van Hulzen stated the thing the g.y.S.A. was bringing before the /�
Coz�ission for the Couunission`s eonsideration was the;,possibility of
making an improvement at Cc�unons park. They presently had a concession
stand an the noxth end of the football field. It was a temporary
coucession stand and rather an eyesore, but it had per€ormed the function
for their Association for the eight weeks of the football season. It had
provided them with a`substantial i�lcome for the eight-week period of
around $2,U00. It had proved to be a verg good thing for them, but they
were also interested in having something znore permanent, more acceptable
to the public, and that'would be an addition to the park. He indicated`
to the Commissioners that the very rough drawings were only the basic
autline of the propasal. He stated that the F.Y.So,�. did reco�end to
puC in a permanent concession stand with the possibility of putting in
restroom facilities in the lower level. With that type of construction
that wauld be involved, they would need the Commission's and the City`s
cooperation and efforts. He stated the F,y,g.�, would like to affer
their wholehearted support in getting behind this particular project
wi.th voluntear labor and resources that wouid enable them to at least
come up with the;financial portion of the building itself. They were
laoking for agproval from the Cou�ission of the basic idea wi.th the
" Cannnission's thoughts and recommendations. Then the F.Y.S.A. could, go '
fra� there.
Mx'. Peterson stated that the City had been interested when the Hockey
Assaciation and the F.Y.S.A. were going to build a mutual storage area. L�
The City was looking at making a combination storage%concession/restroom ,
faciiity. 1"here was money in the budget to participate in the cost of
it, �r�m the standpoint that it had to be located where there was
ses�er haok-up. One of the things th at happened was the City Council
had adopted a policy that all permanent structures within the park had
to have a glazed brick exterior. The reason the present storage building
was not put in Commans Park was beeause of the cost of the glazed brick
exterior. He stated that maybe now the City �ouncil would be willing to
waive that requirement, but it was a policy they had had for quite awhile.
He stated that,personalZy, he would not.be in favor of waiving that
policy because of what they were trying to do in the parks. He stated
that the F:y.S,�;, would have to consider the exterior of the building
snd he suggested that the F.Y.S,A. go to th� Hockey Association because
they could both use that facility and eould double on labor and contri- '
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I+&: Vaa Hulzen stated that they could certainZy look into that, although ' �
he douhted that the Hockey Association would have as much interest in it �
as the F.Y.S.A. did. They would like 'to centralize this building souae- �- p
wxtat in the park, because there was no faci,liCy there now and it would ' �
be super €or.the summer. He stated that right now they were looking at �
wliether or nat they could go ahead with their plans. They needed to l
k�aw basically what it was gaing ta cost and what kind of support they
could expect from the City. Hope€ully, it would include the restroom
facilities and water and sewer hook-ugs, and maybe more if they got �
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into the requir�nent of the glazed brick exterior.
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Mr. Peterson stated that, referti.�g �o-the.stc�rage building, the .
� Co�tissian had even a�ked City G�n,ci1 ta aPPr�Priate the cost.of the
brick and at that poi�t, it would have,cost the F.Y.S.A. th�.extra
?,abor.' �ecause of the time, etc., tha men in charge of it did��dathat
feel they wanted �to do;tha� extra labox to put up the brick,
was why the storage buiiding,was�noC at Commans• The reason for the,
bxick was for aesthe�ics consistent wi:Ch the oth�r buildings in the
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Mr. Boa�dman stated that brick of that type was no longer available'
and that the City now usad block that was scored like,hrick and painted'
it. This bLock was even l.ess expensive than the brick.
. �. Boudreau stated he had met twice with Che F.Y•S.A. to discuss this �
issue, 1'here wera so�ne questions ataout financing of the building such
as the hathroams. He had told them he did s�ot think it would be very
'wise af the City or the Park.s & Recreation Couenission to put in just
x concession stand without restroc�n facilities. That brought up the
' guestian of whether the City wou�d he willix�g to pay for the res�rooms.
M�r, goudreau stated he had laoked into this with Mr...V�a �tulzen and
had talked to Mr. Dfck Sobiech, DirecCOr of Public Works, that the
closest and most #easible way to get water and se�aex was off Seventh
Street. This a}.sa,raised other ques�ions of what�might be dane witii
� the park and if the area should be swi.tched around. T�p �easpns the
� F.Y.S.A, was coming before the C�munissi.on now was (1) ta,see,if.the
City was.it�terested in the project; (2) if �he City t�ould help them.in
planning the proj.ect; and (3) haw much was the City:willing to spend
to have & faciliC�:located somewhere on the.aorth end of Commons Pazk
that �ac�u�.d fit the �'.Y.S.A.'s ���=ds and might fit the City's needs?
They had also;nat dismissed the thoug,ht that some�of the gark,might.
` be switched around �ere the facility wQUld be more vf a cc�mm�an center
�u,d service eve�yane as opposed to what they had now. For that, they
needed the Citg Counci.l's permission to work with P1ann:Lng, Public
�iorks, etc., as they couldn`t get that time allocated because it w�s,
not an official city project.
M01'It�N by Betty Mech_, secanded by Robi�u Suhrbier, that the Cammission
would like to see such a facility ia C��8 P�rk� �at it would.be
a goad adva�stage for Fridley to have, and that the building location ..
'tre cc�sist,��� with the recomm�endatians of Mr. Boudreau, Parks & 8ecxeation
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�r, gvudreau staCed that the Ca�missian was not unfamiliax with his `
ideas of u�aybe switchitzg the saftball fields around, allowing anather :
faotball field that would lie along Seventh Street. He stated he . a
�auld probahly defer this ta Pla�aa�.ng Departme�tt a�d ask thew if they �
' bad gny.sugg�sCions or ideas on how to make thi:s facility �aore useable ¢
for �re people for a longer period af tima, If they could,geC the �
ru�t f�t� �e�rer and t�ater dowa, they could save quit� a few do�lars . �
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He stated he was happy the �t�nission had seeu fit to �
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regu��t in;the fvrm df a motie►n:to give SCaff time Co study this and '
come back to the Comtnission with a recommendatian. �
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UPON ,A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, THE MOTIQN CqRRIEI? UNANIMOUSLY. .:
Mz. i�eeterscrrt thanked Mr. Van Hulzen foz attending the meetiRg and }
suggest�ed that I�irr. Van Hulzen be at the City Council meeting when this '
was presented. 1+�c. goudreau would keep him informed as to when that
would be.
AFPROVE NOVEMBER 28, 19�7, PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES:
MQTIOi+T by Leouard Maore, sectin�ed by Betty Mech, to approve the �
November 28, 1977, Parks & Hecre�tion Commissi�at� minutes as written. -
Upan a'voice vote, aI2 voting aye, the �►otion carried unanimously. '
1. DIREG�QR' S REi'08T ;,
� A. Lease of Se�r's Propert� - Snowmobiling Area: ' -
Mr. Boudreau sta,ted that Sears had indicated they would send the City
_ s Iease for the 80 acres of land to be used �or a desi.gnated snow-
mnbile area. The City had not yet receivc�d that lesse in the �ail. : ^ '
14%. Marvin Brunseil, City Clerk, had sent Sears a copy of a form lease �i
ti�e Ci�y used, but that had not been received back either. Mr. Bo�dreau y �
s�ated he knew r}r. Bruns�ll had called Sears' at least t�aice. g
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Mr. Beudreau stated that if the City was given the lease, it was the �
City Gouncil's desire that the S�ars property be designated a� a snow- �
mobiling area wi;'th posti�g at least 2Q0 feet frvm th� southern bound�ry �
and with postinig alo�g the outer highway about lU4 feet in. It had i
been:asked of City Cauncil that since the City.would be leasing thi.s
prope�cty, hopefullq for a year, could tha City use the ar�a for
eoamnunity gardens and;other activities. It was the concensus of the
City Council that if the property was leased for a year, there would
be very few restrictions on it and it could t�e used for passive uses,
Mr. Peterson statcd that he would hop� if the area became a s�aw�t�biling
area, ; that tfie gar�s & ltecreation Department plow a parkatng area on the
aorth :end so there wvuld' be no cars on �he.s treet. :
Mr, Boudreau stated they were prepared to do that as soon as the:lease
was obtained, ,
$, Letter to Anoka Cauntp: Parks & Recreation Department; . �
Mr. Boudreau stat�d'he had not writCen this letter yet, but ft concerned
the ice time at Colvmbia Arena. He was still loaking at it, t�rying to l��
figure aut what the Conmaissi� wished ta �ay in a letter to the �ioi�a •
. Gounty Farks & Recreation Department. The City did want some prio�rity -� ;��
switehYng. The Hockey pssociatfon would Iike to have more iadoor ice �
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hvt:rs in November and Decemb�r. He did nat know haw t�ie :Ci.ty was
going to fit in and�how they were going to i�gically present this`
because a€`the s�cating clubs snd general skating which were first:
pris�rity. He would hate to see theta.have a negative reaetion to a ,
couanunicati on .
Mr, p�terson suggested that tke cammunication.bs prasented in the form
ot qu�stions such as: (1) What-was the priority2 and (2) How was the`
priority established? He would word �it thaC way :beCause they were givi.ng
ice time ta the high,schools and the hockey booster clubs, and he
wonder�d how they could establish priarity and have a privriCy thst
wouZd benefit only 15-18 kids on t�ie higk� schoQl team when we had
tite �ahol e coaffi►unity with many more boys and girls partieipating .
- Mr. Boudreau stated he agreed �ai.th Mr. Peterson--that it was better v
to appxoach with the question-type af3wording. iie was not sure the
facte presented ta the Co�mission an ice time this year wou].d hold
up, because the City actually had more ice time than the previous '
yeax, hut the hours were later rather than earlier in the year.
1�Ls. Seeger stated that some cansideration should be given to the ages
of �he children. She sais3<I�pr. Han,se�, H.A.F. President, had made a
good point when he said sam�ethi�ng should be done to revise the priori.ty"
^ list so th�t the younger kids c+�uld get �ce time.' The i�.ttle children
.. should not be up at the Zate hours.'
C. Coma�►u�icaticm from Kevin Bensan: �
M,r. goucireau stated he had received a letter dated 3'�nuary 3, I978, "
from Mr. Kevin Benson co�tGerning the passibili:ty of the fornration ` `
of a men's intxamural hockey team. This team would be agea to'young ,
men out of high schooi and not playing in any;other organization. �
Mr. Benson was requesting the reservation of the JG ri�c ice on
Wednesdays and Sundays fro�u► 7-9:3U p.m. and th�y would supply every- ;
thing else that was needed. Mr. Benson had stated it�was too late • •
to form a team this yasr,. but wa�ld` like to make this resexvation °
for ice time for Che nex� year, '
� Mr. Boudrea� st�ted he had talked ta this man's moth�:r and exglainad
to her that it was the City's goal this �►ear to keep as much ice time, � � ;
open as possible €or use by the community at the hockey rinks. Tliey �
had gone to`the re�ervation system so that a hockey r.ink caul,d be
reset�ed s:fmil�r t4 �hat done for the softball areas in the summer.
�e st��ed they h�d made an effort to acco�odate people similar to ,
I+&'. �e�son`s reg�est. �e�► h�d tried to make it `kno�that they df+d
have oge�t° rinks and wauld be happy to reserve theui if the people �
would stop,by the office to do so. This year the GiCy had more
op�n ice time an the rinks than ever beforerand.that came from ;
^, working closely with the H.A,F. Mr. Boudreau.to2d the Commnissfon :
..�€;,., tha� i� Chey ever heard anyor�e sta�ing that the Parks, &�Lecreatioa :
Depa�rtm�nt. was being u�ifair, t3�ey should ask •this gerson to �top. �
i�to the raf#ice and_ �h�y wauld be haPPY t`a reserve t2he ice time . t
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l�it?TI4N by Jan Seege�r, seconderi hry LEO�ard Moore, ta receatve ICevin Be�son's �
leCter dateci �anua�y 5, 1978. Upon a voice vote, a1Z voting aye, the °
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Mr. Peterson stated.that this letter should be brought back be€ore the ;,
C�aission in September 1978 as h`e thought the Director, the Commission, �
and may}re tlie Hockey Association, shoulcl formulate some kind of golicy. �-
They could discuss at that time if the,y would Iike to form intramural �"
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leagues and.shou�:d set svme kind of policy. �
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D• Resalution iiequesting 3`hree Bocce Ball Sets �rom the League of Cities;
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Mr. $outireau stated he had found an article entitled, "Bocce Ball :Prograui,{' �
which stated that Goveruor Rudy perpich had donated his increase in
salary to the prott►otian of bocce ball. The yeague of Cities, acting as
�he Gevernor's age�,t, was using the maney ta purchase bocce ba11 sets �.
aud di,stribute them to requesting cities. The city requesCS had to be �
made by resolution of a govexaing body adopted by a two-thirds majority �'
af its members �ud only cities were e}.igible. The.number of sets avail- �
able to each city was determined by the city's population. Fridley was ,
in tihe,c�tegory of 2�,UQfl-1Q0,000 population and was eligible for three `
bocce $all sets. Mr. goudxeau stated Mr. Marvin Brunsell had prepa.red -
a rescalution requesting three bocce ball sets from the League of Cities
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At this time, Ms. Barbara Shea came before the �anmission as a private
citizen to inform the Comm�iss.ion that she ha.d signed her daughter up .�.
for the girls' broomball program with the thought in mind that her. ��-
. daughter would only need a broam to play, It turned out that her : �^
daughter was required,to have $60 worth of equipmemt in arder to play, ��
Ms. Shea stated_that this=was a grob:lem and a requirement of this type �
shauld definitely be stated i� the brochure. �;
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Mr. Bomdreau stated that th;is was news to the parks �-Recxeation �
" Department. They had been uader the assumption that things were to � �-'
be`done as they had in the past, and nothing had been mentioned by `°
tbe H.A.F. abaut any additional expense.; He would check into this �
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Mr. peterson staCed tt�at the C�ission was also uot aware of this.
A few'years ago, all that was required was a helmet and a special broom
and the:Commission had n� idea that �his hact been changed; He thanked
I�s. Shea for bringing this to the Comu�is�ion's attention and the matter
wcruld �e looked into.
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A. R;equest by Frid2ey Jaycees - i+�.nter �aftball Touraa�nt;
Mr. Boudreau sCated the Coa�ission had received a letter f�aca the;
FridYey Jaqcees who wished ta sponsor a saf�ball tournaurent, ►'Softball
fn the Snpw," on February 18, 19i8. 1�. Boudreau stat�d his only
concern was that they had a policy,on the number"of tournaments held
'each year, and did the Commissian want to o}seA it up to winter touraaments?
" Ae had talksd with the Poliee Department and one of the.Commi�sion's ,
recon�endations, if they wl.shed, would be-to ha�e a po2iee officer in
attendaace at thc tournament if the City �ouncil gave permission for :
alcah6lic beverages to be served. The ,Taycees had stated they had
had no problems in the past, but that may have been�because a police
officer had been present, and did not mean there couldn't be a problem
thfs time. Mr. Bour��ceau stated tkat if the Eci�ission �PProved this
to be sen.t on ta City Cauncil, hc would request that tbey be co�sts;tent
w3t�.the polici.es follo�d in the past for other tournaments, with Che
st�.pul;ation that there be no on-street parking. He . really t�a.d _no other .
� probleuis with the ,iaycees using the fields . `
MA'��dl�i by ,Tan Seeger, seconde� by Robin Suhrbier, that, sulijec�t to .
Citp Council agp.rova�., the Parks & R!�creation Commissio� aP'Proved
^ the winter softball tournament, "Softball. in -the S�aw," on Fei�ruar� 18,
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1978, sponsored.by the �'ridl�y Jaycees,.buC tha� it be ccrosi�tent:with
past tour�amen� policies with a pQ3:�.ce o€ficer in attendance and off-
street ga�cking. Upan a voice vote, �11 voCin$ aye, tize motion carried
unanimously.
B. R�quest by F.Y.S.A. -Gl.ena Sian .Hulzen; '
Tliis ite�► was covered at the begin�tiag of the meet�ug .
3. QLD BUSiN�SS:
A. Be�ort by 3an.5eeger:
(I) Enex83' SYmPosium � .
1�Se . Se�ger statad. that o�e of the thiitgs John Milhone, Dire+etor
of �he ,Minnesota Fn�ergy Agency, i�ad told them. was that suppties
� af energy were quickly zunning out. He had said that Minnesota
had tl�e best mix o-f future energies. By this h� was talking about
the wood suFP1Y� Peat suggly, and natural gas. The reastm for
sola� energy was because �iimnesata had a h�i.gtter need fcar h�at; '
.�'hereio�e, Minnesota became:`a gaod place for'solar because they :
could justify the ex�er�ese for that heating-type of eaergy. , `
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Sane of the problems with sol,ar was t� legality of sun rights. �
This sounded funny, but it was not, and some of these things
had come before the.LegislaCure. Wind energy was interesting
snd there was an ex�e�sive wind geaeration �arm in which every-
thing fran �he television to the milki�g machine operated by the
wind. The owttter`o£ the fa�m was not a gu�lic speaker and spoke
in very pla�n langue�ge, hu6 �he felt he was one of the most
i�nterestiug sgeak�rs of �hem all.
Ms, Seeger stated they talked about bio-mass. They told how
much energy we a�e using compared to Europe, Russia, and the �
Middle East. 5he stat�d John`Mil�ione's i@ea was that the besC
way to save energy was to conserve it.
(2) Going Under to.Stay on Tap
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Ms= Seeger stated that this semi�ar took them thro�gh the same
type of thing of wbty we shoul.d be thinking ahout new .creative
ways of builsiing. She ioe�nd it interesti.ng because this Couenission '
: was in the business of recreat�.on and building, ongoing costs, ete,
Sh�'stated that Thomas Bly of the University of Minnesota said �
we should figure buildings with a ci��nulative life cycle slot.
She said they talked about maia�tenanGe and heating figured out on'
a slide a,�,d then:the cost of building. She thought the building
at Commons wauld be an interestix�g �on.cept to do underground, ^
ei:ther spiit or with a burming.kind o� concept. She said there
we�e fascinati,ng speakers telling about Sweden which had a great
percentage of i�s buil:ding� underground, because of lack:af spaee,
A super speaker was a l:ady £rvm New York who told about one of
the oldest bui:ldings, Cooper Union Hall, 120 years old, which was
still in existence and was the fixst building to be built under-
ground. ,Etbraham Lincoln made his final presidential nomination
there.. Sixty years ago, the`Woolworth Building wen.t underground
and part of the New York University was underground. This lady
had.stated that our priorities for land use have to start b�►
conBidering underground-type concepts. The primary purposes for
underground building was the sound effect and heating and cooling.
The earth, being thermo, would xetain heat and cool better. This
lady had sta�ed that the Iand was too valuable to utilize it for
bt�ilding on to�.: You had to utilize the parks for open space
a�d the xecr�atic� should go undergrout�d. Ms. Seeger s�tated they'
: were assured ti�at �he -cast factnrs were not greater building under-
ground, and va�,ds�:ism had dropped literally to zero.
Ms. Seeger sta�ed sh�'had very much`enjoyed the two sessions. She
was pa�ticularly i�tere�ted�in John. Milhone's statemen�_that, because
we Iive in M�.nnesota, wa have more xeason ta loak at �hese things.
Mr. Peterson thanked Ms. Seeger for her report. �
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B. Neighnrhood Revtew of Park Plans: '
I�r. Boardman was at the meetiag to bring the C�ssic� up t;o date
on the Park Plan.
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Mr. Boardman stated that, as the Commissian was aware, the Parks �
Open ,�pace Plan was sti�l. at Planning, Coanmi:ssion and was taking langer
thaa he thought it would. However, the Planning CoQmnission was being
very diligent with the Plan. He stated he would like to see it mov�e a
little fastsr, but felt it was important to have Planning Commissioa
co�mnent and make the necessary changes before it went on to City
Council, so it would get full support. .
Mr. Boardman stated theze were several things right now they were- ':
laoking at for imglementation within.the Plan and one was a process
of redesigning all the park facilities to upgrade the facilities to �
make them more useable. They had one park which was-:getting a 1ot of
pressure �or development and that was the Benjamin-Briardale Park.
They had isolated that park aud the Harris Lake Park as possible
. demonstration development parks. They had don.e an initial dssign .
of'the geajamin-Briardale Park, were going to reduce that design, and ` .
send it °to alI the people in.that area for ccxnment. Then, they plannet�
� on dc�ing. a madel c�esign of that �park and hold publi� hearings after the
^ input back from the people. T'his should be taking place within the
, month of January, with public hearings in February or towards the end
y°' of Februa�y so it could be approved by the Parks & Recreation Corm�ission,
Planniug CQm�nission, and City Council, in order to stazt the actu�l
cons�ruction this su�rcner. They felt the Benjamin-Briardale Park could
be a very nicely done park and would be a nice demonstration°p�rk fc�r
the city. _
Mr', goardman stated that the process with the Benjamin-Briardale Park
would be a lirtle different than the way they would handle a lot of
the other, parlc� . Right now they were in the ,process of estab2ishiug
aeighborhoods. �t was a very lengthy project they were going through
with the Police Department which was very iaterested in the neighbor- .
hoods based on a Crime Prevention Program called Neighborhood Crime
Watch. T'he neighborhoods would be established, not only for crime
: wateh, but it also wvuld be a good thing for public infarmation,
d'i.spersal and retrieval of publ.ic information, a.nd the development
of pa�t�s and recreation system based on the neighbarhoQd design, x�
everything went well, it laoked as if they would be hiri�g some CETA
pecrple, prAbably in February. These,people would campus the neighbor-
hoods to develop some type of survey quesxionnaire and bring inforrna-
tion back,about the €eelings of the neighborhoods, Qnce.that groject
was acco�pl�.shed, they would still. have the,CLTA people, What they
p�axtned to: do in> the ,park a�d recreation program was to util�ize these
people and ass.ign dif€ere�nt neighbc�rhoods where cane CExA p�rson might
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have one or two neighborhor�ds in wttich to make public cotrtact and have
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consis,tent rapport. Hopefully, tfie City would geC some feedback from
the'CETA people as to th� designs and parks that the neighborhoods
liked. When �hey got into the other garks, they would have some type
of idea of what the people wanted in their parks, and similar to
$enja.min-Briardale, they would do models, get the input from the peogle,
and set ug a schedule for these park facilities. -
Mr. Peterson stated that one concern he would have was when the public
hearings were held for the Benjamin-griardale area, that they structure
_ the meChod of notification, reeord keeping, etc., so that two months
later, there wasn't a delega.tion ot peopl.e from that area saying they
had not heard about the public hearings at all,and.did not want what
was planned for their park. He felt they had to put as much or more
time on that structuring t•han on the physical, actual designing o£
the parks.
Mr. Maore stated he t�iought the idea of a Neighborhood Crime Watch
program was one of the grandest things the cit�zens had come up w�th.
_ • AUJOURI�IMENT :
MOTION hy Jan Seeger, seconded by Leonard Moore, to adjpurn the meeting
at 9:40 p.m. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, the motion carried
unanimously. ^
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David L. 7orkildson, liirector
550 Bu�k,er Lake Blvd. -- Anoka, Minnesota 55303
7eleph�ne: 612 - 757-3920
January 20, 1978
Mr. Charles A. Boudxeau, Director
Parks & Recreation
City of Fridley
6431 University Avenue, N.E.
Fridley, Minnesota 55432
De ar Chuck :
I received your letter of January 17th concerning allocatior�s
of ice time for your local hockey organization at C�lumb?a
Arena. I was vez°y surprised to hear that represent�tives of
your H.A.F. Association is not aware of the following policies.
The priorities that have been established for using the Arena
considers year-round users, suc:� as the Figure Skating Schaol,
run by Calumbi.a Arena as top priority. Followed by the high
school games (league play), high school captains during the
summer months, high school team practices, high school
tournar�ents, then our Figure Skating Club, who also skates
year-round, MAH.1� District 10 (County Amateur Hockey
Associations), then the individual requests from the hockey
associations themselves, hockey association tournaments and
hockey association playoffs.
Prior to last year, hockey associations were given priority
over MAHA District 10 games, but through a joint meeting of
representativ�s from MAHA District 10 and representatives
from all hockey associations, it was decided and requested of
us that MAHA District 1� �ame requests be considered ahead of
tl�e associations .
In the past we have created studies to determine the percentage
of hours that should be considered for each association based
on population and size of their programs. Since that time,
equal increases in time allotted or equal decreases in time
allotted for each association has been maintained. This year,
as you may or may not know, both the high school practices
and the hackey association practiees have increased in their
programs because groups, such as I3oosters, have donated
additional manies to them to use in their hockey programs.
Prior to building �reria lz, we had skaters using the facility
seven days a week until. 2:00 A.M.
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A. Boudreau
1978
For some reason the associations now restrict their requests
to be considered no Zater thail 1Q ; 30 P.M. Siiice we are
running at full capacity during November and December, I
cannot see how improvements can be made during 78-79 season.
As to your fourth question as to why local y�uth hockey
programs are not eligible for ice time Monday through Thursday,
T would request you to ask for a copy from your association
of their contract which shows that H.A.F. has contracted time
for December 2nd, 7th, 9th, 12th, 26th, 27th, 28th, January 4th,
�,lth, 23rd, which are all Mondays, Tue�days, Vv'ednesdays and
Thursdays. The reason they cannot have more days is because
of their equal share trey are receiving with other asaociations
during Monday throuyh Thursday.
I would also recommend that recreation directors and
associations discuss with their schools the possibility of
accepting hockey as part of their athletic curriculum and
al].ow them to use Columbia Arena between the hours of 8:Q0 A.M.
and 3:00 P.M. This time is always available and we have been
trying for years to convince the schools that it should be
used by them.
� There is also talk sbout building �.nath.er Arena at
- Park in 1979-80, which would free up more time for
associ.ation, particularly southern county groups.
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The first week in February, just about any day, would be fine
for a meeting with you and Jack Hanson. If you can pick a
date and time, George and I will be there.
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Director of Parks & Recreation
Anoka County, Minnesota