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� CITY OF FRIULEY
PARKS & P,ECREATION COMPrISSION
FIEETI�lG
DECEMBE� 1�, 19£�0
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Hughes called the December 10, 1980, Parks & Recreation Commission
meeting to order at 7:47 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Barbara Hughes, Dave Kondrick, Jan Seeger, Dan Allen,
Dick Young
Members Absent: None
Others Present: Charles Boudreau, Parks & Recreation Director
APPRQUAL OF NOVEMBER 12, 198�, PRRKS & RECREATION COMMISSION hiINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MR. ALLEN, TO APPROVE THE NOVEMBER 12, 1980,
PARKS & RECREATION COMI�?ISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON HUGHES DECLARED THE MOTION
^ CARRIED UTJANIMOUSLY.
A�PROVAL OF AGENDA:
The follow�ng items were added to the agenda under "Director's Report":
B. Update on Nature Center Building
C. Report on Outdoor Ice
D. Lions Club Dinner for Senior Citizens
Chairperson Hughes declared the agenda adopted as amended.
l. DIRECTOR'S REPORT:
A. Island of Peace Status
Dr. Boudreau stated that as liaison between the City of Fridley and
tfie Islands of Peace �aundatien, it has come to his attention that
at their Dec. E mewting, the Foundation's Board of Directors made
two meaningful motions:
1. Because af Ed Wilmes' continued ill health, they passed
a motion to rrai.ify all the people who have donated to
the Islands of Peace and anyone who has dealt with tMe
Islands of�P�ace that Ed tJi�mes will no longer be reprF-
^ senting tt�e Islands of Peace Foundation and will no longer
have any authority to speak for the Islands of Peace Feundation.
This moti�n passed unanimously and a letter is supposed to
have gone out this week.
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2. They wish to contact the City in the form of a letter on a
resolution passed by the Isiands of Peace �oundation's
Board of Direc�ors to Fnc�orse and encourage the Joint Powers
Agreement to be signed by the City of Fridley and the County
of Anoka for the p�arposes of establishing and developing a
regional park along the shores of the Mississippi River.
Along with that resoluti�n, they were explicit in three
acts: (1) that ihe Foundation would act toward the termina-
tion of their existing l�ase between the City of Fridley and
the Foundation; and (2j they would act toward the proposal for
the development and implQrnentation of a Joint Powers Agree-
ment between the City af Fridley and the County of Anoka;
and (3) they would act'f:ov�ard the proposal to develop and
implement an agreement l��t�reen the F�undation and the County
of Anoka for the maintenance and operation with respeci to
the existing premises. `(By that, they are referring to
the Hayes River l.ots and reception center located on the
Hayes River Lots.) They have further stated that the Founda-
tion encourages the City and the County each to act without
delay toward the establishment and implementation of a
regional park system k�ith �che assurance that the Foundation
would act at all times w:th the County and the City towards
the improvemEnt of this �rea.
Dr. Boudreau stated that, as the Commission may have heard, Mr. Wilmes
is in the hospital and is supposed ta have an operation.
Dr. Boudreau stated tr�at Metropolitan Council did accept, with one
or two stipulations, Anoka County's P�aster Plan for a regionai park,
which would include the FMC property, Durham Island, and the Islands
of Peace complex. He did not believe the funding has been allocated
however, it has been endQrsed by the P1etropolitan Coun�il that funds
will be allocated. He did know the amount, This was contingent on
Great River Road Project`s cooperation and, he believed, the MnDOT
people also.
U�date on Nature Center Buildi•ng
yet;
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Dr. Boudreau stated th�e building should be turned over to the City of
Fridley in about a week and a ha1f. They are still awaiting the
protective screening on the front. Tne wa�er was turned on that day,
and the heat has been on. He stated that with a limited budget, they
are going to have a nice empty 5�,�ilding. Mr. St. Clair is making plans
to have something to �ro into the building.
C. Report on Outdoor Ice
Dr. Boudreau stated that, for the Commission's information, if the
weather stays cold, there will be skatab7e ice by the early part of
next week.
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D. Lions Club Dinner for Senior Citizens
Dr. Boudrea�-�stated that
annual dinner for senior
noon, 2:15 p.m., and 4:15
turn several people away
The di nner �vas. primari 1y
function, and the senior
2. CNAIRPERSON'S REPORT:
on. Dec. 9,, the L�ians; Club sponsored their
citizens. Ti�ere were three serving times--
p.m. They set°ve� 374 dinners and had to
because there wasn't enough seating available.
for Fridley reside��s. It is a very good
citizens laok forward,-`to it each year.
�Ms. Hughes stated that at the Planning Commissio� meetings, two things had
emerged that she felt the Cor�unission should be `aware of:
1. There apparently is some contamination f rom the creosote site
into Rice Creek. She did not have a copy:of any of the reparts,
�and she did not know the extent of the �ontamination. She stated
that maybe the Commission shou7d try<to get some information on it.
2. She attended the hazardous waste siting meeting in Anoka County.
It was quite obvious to her that there is no place in Anoka
. County for a site for a hazardous waste �acility or even a
transfer station. This is something she is� interested in and
she will attend these m�etings thraughout the winter.
� Mr. Yo�ng stated he would ]ike to have �eriodic updates on what is happening
at Moore Lake, instead of having to read about it in the paper. Since this
is a Parks, Recreation, and Natural Resource� Commission, he would think
that Moore Lake is distinctly a natural�resource to the community, and he
wondered why the Environmental Quality Cammissian is the only corr�nnission
involved with what happens v�ith Moore Lake. If �he Comnission is concerned
about what is happening with Rice Creek, they should also�be ;informed about
what is happening with Moore Lake.
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3. OLD BUSINESS:
A. Citizens' Advisory Committee (Dan Allen)
Mr. Allen stated thelast meeting he attended was on Nov. 25, and they
had D:ick Stanton, Principal of the Fridley High School speak to the
Cor�nittee. Mr. Stanton brought up several paints, anc� the general
impression he left the Committee was that the school district feels
the crunch and they don't see much room for Rarks & Recreation usiny
their facilities any more than.�rhat exists now, which is a lot.
Mr. Allen stated that Jack Hansen was appo�nted Co-Chairperson with
Mr. Allen in place of Bob Kel1y. Mr. Harr�er� �sked Mr. Allen to
emphasize to the Commission of a possible ext�resiarr ta April lst as
• a deadline for the Committee to make their repqrt to.the Corr�nission,
although they will try very hard.ta make the M�rch 1s� deadline.
The Commission saw no problem with tt�is p�ss�b�� d��dl�#�re �xter�sion.
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Mr. Allen stated the Cornmittee is �r�gressing very well. On
Dec. 11, Mr. Tom Myhra will be talking Lo the Committee.
Mr. Allen stated he vras unable to ait�n� the latest meeting, so he
would let Mr. Kondrick report on that meeting.
Mr. Kondrick stated he was not able to attend the whole meeting. Ne
stated a person from Columbia tieights Schools and two people frorn the
Fridley Schools discussed their pool facilities. The person from
Columbia Heights stated ihey have a�l kinds of pool time availab7e,
and the people from Friclley sta�ed i��ey have pool time available,
although the srhool wouid always have preferential treatmen�. Thes�
discussed at great length ihe cost of pools and how, in their opinion,
a pool should be loaked at very Garefully in terms of cost before it
is seriously considered.
Mr. Kondrick stated the meetings are beiny directed much better than
the first couple of ineetings. There is some system and s�me organi-
zation, and he was very pleased with the good input.
Dr. Boudreau stated he was also pleased with the CammittEe. He s�ated
the Committee is �lanning a tour of existing faci1ities in Jahuat�y.
Ne stated he wouic� be sending in��orination out to tha Corv�ission �n�;nbers
about the tour, and if an,}� of th�m dre ir�terested in jo�ring �n th�
tour, they should 3.et him know. �
6. Proposed Jnint Powers Agreement - Anoka County
Dr. Boudreau stated the City C�unci� is planning on discussing this
Jaint Powers Agreemert at either their next meeting or thz fi�rst
meeting in January. They are looking at a timetabie of around the
first of the year or shortly thereai'ter.
Ms. Seeger stated that with the Joint Powers Agreement, who would be
managing the building? Would there be some kind of caret�icer?
Dr. Boudreau stated that was not defined. He thaught there might have
to be a daily caretaker, but he ai� not know the County`s plans.
Ms. Hughes asked if it was essential tl�at the Hayes Lots go with the
Joint Powers Agreement.
Dr. Boudreau stated the parcel is r�eeded by the County for the
acr�age required for then; to have a rec�ional park. That is why they
are picking up Durham Island and Chase's Island--somewh�re around
112 acres.
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Ms. Hughes stated that on page 2 of the Joint Powers Agreement, there
were two "WHEP,EAS" paragraphs she objected to and felt should be
deleted:
"WNEREAS, the greatest number of users of Hayes Lots, Chase's
Island and G�l Hodges Island come from outside the City and are
residents of the County..."
"WHEREAS, certain substantial economic savings can be realized
by the residents ofthe County and the City thraugh a cooperative
operating and maint;enance agreement."
Ms. Hughes stated that the Commission should make some comment to the
City Council. If the Commission agrees that the City should enter into
this agreement, then she thought the Commission ought to recommend that
the City Council not sign or finalize the Joint Powers Agreement until
they know what the funding situation is. She saw no reason for the
City to enter into this agreement until such a time as they know there
really is going to be a Great River Road Park, and that could be years
from now.
MOTION BY MS. SEEGER, SECONUED BY MR. KONDRICK, TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION
OF TNE PROPOSED JOIA'T PQPIERS AGREEM.�',NT .
UPON A VOICE VOTc, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSOPI HUGHES DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Ms. Seeger stated
the City's parks,
same feeling..
NEW BUSINESS:
she has some problems with having the County running
and people she has talked to have expressed that
A. D.F.L. Club Request
Ms. Nughes stated the D.F.L. Club would like to use the popcorn machine
and the concession stand at Commons Park on June 26, 1981.
Dr. Boudreau stated this same request came before the Commission in 1977.
The request was denied because of the philosophy that if they let the
a.F.L. Club use�it, hoa� cou7d they deny the Republicans, church groups,
etc. It is just not a good policy for these groups to use park facilities.
At that point in time, the D.F.L. Club took it to the City Council, and
the City Council gave them permission to use the facility. Last year,
they did not ask for permission but used i�he park. This year the
request is coming back to the Cor�nission again.
Dr. Boudreau stated that last year during the 49'er Days, there was
a softball tournament that brought in many visitors to the City. In
� order to make money on the softball tourament, these people depend upon
thEir concessions, so they were given permission to use the concessipn.
The D.F.L. Club thought they had the concession stand, and there was
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some disagreement as t� who had what. That is what precipitated
this request by the D.F.L. Club for the concession stand this year,
and the team that ran the soft5a11 tou•rnanent last year said if
they are not allowed to use the concession stand, they can't have
a tournament. This was tt�e Fridley Tiger Nockey Booster Club tournament.
Ms. Hughes stated she wondered if the Cammission ought to make any
corr�nitment to anybody until the 49'er program was pretty much laid
out. If the Commission yrants this request, it might limit what the
49'er committee can do.
Ms. Seeger stated she yvould �rerer to let the 49'er �.ommittee decide
who does what on what day. The Fridley Tiger Hockey Booster Club
does help recreation by civing time and mo��ey to help schoal hockey
activities.
Mr. Allen stated he had prablem� with a group using the concession
stand for making money and not contributing anything to the recreation
program.
MOTIOIV BY MR. iCONDRICK, SECONDED BY 1/iP. YOUNG, TO DENY THE REQUEST BY
THE D.F.L. CLUB TO USE THE CONCESSIUN STAND IN COMMONS PARK ON
JUNE 26 , 19 81, ON THE BASlS THA2' � T T�tiES NOT �! DD TO THE RECREP.TION
PRt�GFcAM IN FRIDLEY.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING Ai'E, CHAIRPERSON HUGHES DECLARED THE
MrJTION CARRIED Ui1AiVIMOtiS�,Y.
Meeting Dates - 1981
MOTION BY MR. YOUNG, SECOND�D BY MR. KONIJRICK, TO APPROVE TNE 1981
PARKS & RECREATTON COMMISSION MEETING DATES AS Ft�LLOWS:
JAN. 14
FEB. 13
MAR. 11
�iPR. 15
MAY 13
JUNE 17
JULY 15
AUGUST 12
SEPT. 23
OCT. 14
NO'l. 19 (THURS. )
DEC. 16
CrP�N A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTII�'G AYE, CHA7.RPERSON HUGHES DECL.ARED THE
Mc�TION CARRIBl� UNANI�IDUSLY.
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ADJOURI�NIENT:
MOTION BY MS. SEEGER, S�;CONDED BY MR. KONDRICK, TG ADJOURN THE MEETING. UPON
A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIIVG AYE, CHAI'RPERSUN Hliv^HES DECLARED THE DECEMBER .�0, 1980,
PARKS � REG'i2EATION COMMISSION 1�ETING ADJOURNED A2' a:10 P.M.
Respectfully s bmitted,
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Ly e Saba
Recording Secretary