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CITY OF FRIDLEY
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
MEETING
MAY 4, 1982
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Kondrick called the May 4, 1982, Parks & Recreation Comnission
meeting to order at 7:35 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Dave Kondrick, Jan Seeger, Dick Young, Dan Allen,
Mary Schreiner
Members Absent: None -.
Others Present: Charles Boudreau, Parks & Recreation Director
Terry Merriman, 711 Rice Creek Terrace
APPROVAL OF APRIL 6, ]982, PARKS & RECREATION COMMI5SION MINUTES:
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MOTION BY MS. SCHREINER, SECONDED BY MS. SEEGER, TO APPROVE THE APRIL 6, 1982,
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES.
Mr. Young stated that on page 7, under "Po7icy Recomnendation", the name,
"Mrs. Jaycees" should be changed to "Jaycee Women".
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE MINUTES
APPROVED AS AMENDED. -
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
The following items were added to the agenda:
Communication from Pat & Tom Bordner - Item B under "Director's Report"
Communication from Marcy Sparks - Item C under "Director's Report"
Weeds at Locke Park - Terry Merriman - Item A under "Other Business"
Jaycee Gift to the City - Dick Young - Item B under "Other Business"
Eisenhower Square - Dick Young - Item C under "Other Business"
MOTION BY MR. ALLEN� SECONDED BY MS. SEEGER� TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS AMENDED.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTZNG AYE� CHAIRPERSON KONDRICR DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
,-� Mr. Kondrick suggested that Mr. Terry Merriman's discussion on the weeds at
Locke Park be placed first on the agena.
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]. WEEDS AT LOCKE PARK - TERRY MERRIMAN:
Mr. Merriman stated he had addressed the Commission on October l9, 7987,
over the issue of the mowing in Locke Park, which has been discontinued on
the south side of Rice Creek since Anoka County took over the maintenance
of the park. Previous to his addressing the Commission, he had ta7ked to
Dr. Boudreau a couple of times about the mowing. At the Commission meeting,
Dr. Boudreau fiad said there was really not a lot of support amongst the
population on the south side of the Creek for the continued mowing of tf�at
area, and that the amount of use on that side of the Creek was open to question.
Mr. Merriman stated that prior to that Comnission meeting, Dr. Boudreau had
said he wou]d research the issue a little bit and give some indication of
ho�v much time it takes to mow the area and the number of times it gets mowed
each year. At the Comnission meeting, there was also some discussion about
the noxious weed ordinance, and the fact that he thought there was no master
plan for Locke Park. He stated it was his understanding that the message was
going to be-transmitted to Dave �Torkildson, Director of the Anoka County Park
Department, that there should be some kind of master plan for the park. To
this date, Mr. Merriman stated he did not know if there was any plan.
Mr. Merriman stated he had been unable to attend the Commission's December
meeting, which Mr. Torkildson attended. At that meeting, Mr. Torkildson gave '�
the indication that the residents have ]ost interest in this issue. Mr. Merrimar�
stated the residents have not lost interest in this issue.
Mr. Merriman stated he met with Mr. Torkildson in late Jan./Feb, and explained
their position in that all of the residents he has talked to, without�exception,
want to see this area mowed. At that time, Mr. Torkildson indicated some
willingness to negotiate on the amount of mowing that would be done, and they
discussed the possibility of establishing a new tree line. Mr. Torkildson
would like to establish a new tree line, but Mr. Merriman did not know where.
Mr. Merriman stated Mr. Torkildson has obviously taken the position that
he does not want to do any mowing. Mr. Merriman stated he has talked to
Mr. Torkildson and has set up a meeting with Mr. Torki7dson for 4:15 p.m.
in Locke Park at Monroe St. and Rice Creek 7errace. He and Mr. Torkildson
will walk the area and try to come to some kind of agreement. He stated that
Dr. Boudreau and any of the Comnission members who wished to attend this
meeting were welcome. He stated he was going to invite some af his neighbors,
because he feit there should be representation from people who live in the
middle section and on each end of the park.
Mr. Merriman stated Mr. Torkildson also continues to bring up the issue that
the area is never used. Mr. Merriman stated he has started to pay attention
this year, and that area is used a iot.
Mr. Merriman stated an issue he did not talk about at the last Commission
meeting, but one that is very important, is the aesthetics. If that area is
al]owed to go wild, it is no different living next to that end of the park
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than living next to a vacant lot. He felt they should find out what
Mr: Torkildson intends to do in that area. Mr. Torkildson had said he would
like to establish a new tree line which would be p7aced about 30 ft. south
of the trail that is going through the park and then mow the rest.
Dr. Boudreau stated that is in the master p7an for that area for the walkway
system that is going all the way through Locke Park. Mr. Torkildson is trying
to put a buffer of trees between the residents and the trai] system.
Dr. Boudreau stated the City did come in ]ast fall and mow that area up to
the power line. He stated the area Mr. Merriman is talking about mowing is
a 1/4 mile stretch that would take a day to a day and a half to mow. He
stated that, contrary to wbat Mr. Merriman has said, that area is not used.
He stated his maintenance men are around that area day in and day out through-
out the year, he has been out there several times, the County people have been
out there several times, and that area is not being used except for some night
parties.
Ms. Seeger asked Mr. Merriman if he t�ought berming with trees or shrubs would
be desirable or not desirable to the neighborhood.
Mr. Merriman stated he thought that would be too expensive.
Ms. Seeger stated maybe they are talking about long term expense. If it is
a long term expense to mow it every year, maybe the expense shou7d be incurred
in reforestation of some merit.
Mr. Merriman stated he was in agreement with that ]00%. He was not against
moving the tree line farther south and mowing up to that. He stated the City
has always mowed it, and he is looking for some compromise. He is not asking
for the whole area to be mowed.
Mr. Kondrick stated he did not see any reason why a reasonable compromise
couldn't be worked out at the meeting on Monday, May ]2th, with Mr. Torkildson.
He stated he would attend that meeting.
Dr. Boudreau stated he would also attend that meeting.
Mr. Merriman thanked the Commission for their time and asked that as many
Commission members as possible attend the Monday meeting.
2. ELECTION OF CHAIRPERSON AND VICE-CHAIRPERSON - 1982-83:
Chairperson Kondrick declared the nominations open for chairperson.
MOTION BY !�2 . ALLEN � SECONDED BY !�R . YOiJNG � TO RENOMINATE DAVE KONDRICK
FOR CIiAIRPERSON.
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Mr. Allen stated Mr. Kondrick has done a very good job in representing the
Comnission, and he would ]ike to see him continue as chairperson.
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Mr. Young stated Mr. Kondrick has represented the Commission on the Planning
Comnission this past year, and he felt that, to do justice to the Planning
Commission, a person should serve on the Planning Commission for more than
one year.
Hearing no other nominations, Chairperson Kondrick declared the nominations
closed.
MOTIDN BY MS. SEEGER, SECONDED BY 1�. ALLEN, TO CAST A UNANIMOUS BALLOT FOR
DAVE KONDRICK AS CHAIRPERSON OF THE PARKS & RECREATION COMMI5SION FOR THE
YEAR 1982-83.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK D£CLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMDUSLY.
Chairperson Kondrick declared the nominations open for i�ice-chairperson.
MOTION BY MS. SEEGER� SECONDED SY !►�2. YOUNG� TO NOMINATE MARY SCHREINER FOR
VICE-CHAIRPERSON.
Hearing no other nominations, Chairperson Kondrick declared the nominations
closed. �
MOTION BY 1�lR. YDUNG� SECONDED BY 1►�2. ALLEN, TO CAST A UNANIMDUS 'BALLOT FOR
MARY SCHREINER AS VICE-CHAIRPERSON OF THE PARKS & RECREATIDN COMMISSION FOR
THE YEAR I982-83.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMDUSLY.
3. DIRECTOR'S REPORT:
a. Direction of the Department for the Coming Year
Dr. Boudreau stated Nasim Qureshi, City Manager, had sent a memo dated
April 26, 1982, to the Mayor and City Council with carbon copies to
the department heads. In the memo, Mr. Qureshi stated the City had a
"state aid cutback to the tune of $342,927 and an anticipated cutback
of $11,973 from revenue sharing which trans7ates into approximately a
6% cut in our total City revenue budgeted for the year 1982. It also
seems that in the foreseeable future, we will continue to have a reduc-
tion in revenue from these two sources, so in tf�e recent past we have been
instituting certain steps to meet such anticipated reductions. We have
advised the Council about some of the steps, and it seems that we might
have to add to the list af actions necessary to meet these shortfa]ls
and cutbacks".
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Dr. Boudreau stated Mr. Qureshi had listed the following "Actions to _
minimize expenditures":
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Delayed filling of vacancies �
Reduction of city staff by attrition
Higher use of part-time employees
Higher use of co7lege and school internship programs
Higher use of conmunity vo]unteers
Combination of certain staff positions
Recruitment at the lowest possible level
Contracting out for specialized services
Higher level of justification for any vacant positions to be
filled
Review of elimination or reduction of certain programs
Other steps we r�ight be forced to take to meet the revenue
shortfall:
a. Voluntary leaves of absence by employees
b. Mandated leaves of absence
c. Employee layoff :
Mr. Qureshi had stated the last two items would be considered only as a
last resort action if al] other actions still have not met the revenue
shortfal]. Mr. Qureshi also listed the fol]owing "Actions to increase
revenue"--steps they have been taking and hope to be taking more aggressively
in the future:
1. Increased user fees
2. Higher license and permit fees
3. Better scrutiny to see that staff is charging accurately to
enterprise funds like liquor, water, sewer, and HRA activities
Dr. Boudreau stated that Mr. Qureshi had also stated that he was giving
this memo to the City Council for their information and any further input
because by City Charter, the City is required to have expenditures meet
the revenues each year, and such decrease in anticipated revenues is
requiring the City to take expenditure reduction action.
Dr. Boudreau stated the City is about $400,000 short �n revenue in the
1982 budget, and the City has to look at ways of cutting expenses where
they can. As the Commission was already aware, the Parks & Recreation
Department is already doing a lot of the first 8-9 criteria Mr. Qureshi
had listed. The Parks & Recreation Department operates almost entirely
on part-time employees. The Parks & Recreation Department does no� fi71
their ful]-time vacancies if they occur. They use the college and intern
programs, and are probab7y the largest department in using community
volunteers, wherever possible. The Parks & Recreation Department prides
itself or� getting support from various groups, agenciQS, companies, and
anyone who wants to contribute to the Department of Park, Recreation, and
Natural Resources.
Dr. Bou�reau stated he brought this before the Commi'ssion, because the
Commission still continues to get requests for specia7ized services, such
as Mr: Merriman had presented ear7ier in the meeting. It is very difficult
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to say "no" to those things that have been done in the past and that are
- taken for granted that they are going to continue to do forever. He
- stated they will have to start looking at those kinds of things.
- Dr. Boudreau stated the Commission discussed fees and charges at the last
- meeting and raised those fees. He stated the City Council approved those
fees at their meeting the previous evening. He stated the Comnission has
been very helpful in assisting the Parks & Recreation Department in
keeping the fees and charges for programs in 7ine where they can pride
themselves in giving the Fridley residents a qua7ity program at the least
amount of cost. He stated they may have to raise the user fee next year,
and they may have to cut down on some of the capital outlay items next
year.
Dr. Boudreau stated the Park, Recreation, and Natural Resource Department's
prime objective is to provide services to the citizens of Fridley. That
comes through programning. Programs are its revenue source, so if they
cut programs, they also reduce revenue. He stated they feel they have
to continue to update their facilities and keep up with the capital outlay
items.
Dr. Boudreau stated that when the Commission members help with the budget
this year and come up with capital outlay needs and items and ideas for ^
new programs, he would like them to keep in mind that these are some of
the constraints they are going to try to live by for at least a year.
He stated he is looking for suggestions from the Commission on how to
reduce expenditures on the City's part and still maintain the services
that are proyided.
b. Communication from Pat & Tom Bordner, 660 Hugo St. N.E.
Dr. Boudreau stated that Pat & Tom Bordner were submitting a request
for a higher fence at Glencoe Park. They stated that in the past, they
split the cost of a 4 ft. high fence with the City. That 4 ft. fence is
stii] standing. They stated the 4 ft. fence is inadequate because basket-
balls and basebal]s come over the fence into their yard, and children are
constantly crawling over the fence into their yard. Also, refuse from
the park is thrown into their yard. They cannot plant bushes or plants
in their yard, because they get destroyed. They stated that, in general,
their civil rights are being vio7ated, and they wou7d 7ike the City to
change the policy of on7y sharing the cost of a 4 ft, high fence.
Dr. Boudreau stated that to give a little background, in the past Pat &
Tom Sordner had requested and were given, in keeping with City policy, a
4 ft. high chain link fence between their property and the park property,
and the cost was split between the City and the homeowner. Their reasoning
for needing the 4 ft. fence r�as the traffic that entered and left the
park through their property. Now, 2-3 years 7ater, it seems the 4 ft. �
fence is not high enough, and they are requesting the City sp7it the cost
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Dr. Boudreau stated he would re-enforce the City's policy that the City
- has already split the cost of a 4 ft, fence, and that if the Bordner's
want any other kind of fence, it will have to be at their own expense.
Mr. Young stated he would agree with that, If they approved this
request, they would be setting a precedent for other requests.
MOTION BY MR. YOUNG� SECONDED BY MR. ALLEN, TD CONCUR WITH EXISTING CITY
POLICY TIiAT, UPON REQUEST, THE CITY WILL SPLIT THE COST OF A 4 FT. HIGX
CXAIN LINK CYCLONE FENCE TD SEPARATE PARK PROPERTY FROM A HOMEOWNER'S _
PRQPERTY, AND TO DENY THE REQUEST BY PAT 6 TOM BORDNER THAT THE CITY SHARE
IN THE COST OF A HIGHER FENCS.
UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTSNG AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
c. Corronunication from Marcie Sparks
Dr. Boudreau stated he had received a letter dated April 23, 1982, from
Marcie Sparks, who stated a group of 30 people from Anoka County met
on March 31 to discuss the potential for the construction of an auditorium
for the performing arts. Ms. Sparks had stated one of the concerns
,.� expressed at that meeting was the need for a detailed feasibility study
on the need, design, financing, and management of such a facility.
Ms. Sparks had requested that Dr. Boudreau attend the next meeting on
April 28.
Dr. Boudreau stated he did not attend that meeting. He did not tfiink
it was his position to get involved as a City of Fr�dley representative.
He stated he has chosen to not be involved directly.
The Commission members agreed that it was not Dr. Boudreau's position to
get involved.
Ms. Schreiner suggested that Dr. Boudreau provide Ms. Sparks with the
information and minutes that were put together by the project committee
for the recreation building.
Ms. Seeger stated there are people in Fridley who are very interested in
the performing arts. Dr. Boudreau could give Ms. Sparks the names of those
people interested and she could contact them directly.
4. OTHER BUSINESS:
a. Jaycee Gift to the City - Dick Young
Mr. Young stated that one year ago, the Jaycees of Fridley made a$6,000
�„\ comnitment to the Comnunity Park to be used for the purchase of e7ectronic
scoreboards. That commitment was to be paid in a 2-year installment. He
� stated that commitment has been fulfilled, and the City now has that $6,000
in hand. It was given to the Mayor at the Jaycees' annual banquet three
weeks ago.
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Dr. Boudreau stated a]etter has been sent to the Jaycees thanking them
- for thi s gi ft.
b, fisenhower Square - Dick Young
Mr. Young stated he was shocked when he read in the Fridley Sun and the
City Council minutes that Eisenhower Squape was go7ng to be turned into
a parking lot. He thought it was a shame that the piece of property was
going to be destroyed to make another piece of blacktop in the vicinity
of Mississippi St. and University Ave. He stated that if additional
parking is needed for the "so-called" project that is going in on the
southeast corner of Mississippi & University, he thought there were two
alternatives--either scale down the project, or build a parking ramp like
Columbia Heights is doing.
Mr. Young stated Eisenhower Square is a definite asset to the City Hall
complex. It is also set aside as a memorial, and he felt it was in a
fitting place and should not be in a place like Commons Park where it
would possibly be abused or vandalized.
Ms. Seeger stated she had a7so expressed concern at the last Commission
meeting about the displacement of trees. They, as a Commission, have
a right to question the City's judgement on these kinds of things. ^
Mr. Young stated if he was a member of an organization that had spent
a lot of dollars plus many manhours to put in a memorial, he would be a
litt]e upset several years later to find out it is going to be taken out
and relocated.
Dr. Boudreau stated he has talked to the VFW, and they seem to concur with
the monument being re]ocated to the south end of Moore Lake where the
flagpole now exists.
Ms. Seeger s�ated she would ]ike to see a plan for.the Center City area.
She thought there were other ways of solving parking.
Dr. Boudreau stated he thought it would be very helpful to have Mr. Boardman
attend the next Commission meeting to explain the plan for this area.
The Commission members concurred.
Ms. Schreiner stated she thought the Commission members shou7d receive
copies of the HRA minutes, because the ramifications of these redevelopment
areas might enfringe on some af the parks.
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ADJOURNMENT:
1HOTIDN BY MS. SCHREINER� SECONDED SY 1NR. ALLEN� TO AA70URN THE MEETSNG. UPON A
VDICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED TXE MAY 4� 1982,
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION 1►lEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:45 P.M.
Resp ctfu7ly submi ted,
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Recording Secretary
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