PR 07/06/1982 - 31280�
CITY OF FRIDLEY
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
MEETING
JULY 6, 1982
CALL TO ORDER:
Vice-Chairperson Schreiner called the July 6, 7982, Parks & Recreation Commission
meeting to order at 7:36 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
M�bers Present: Mary Schreiner, Dick Young, Dan Allen
Menbers Absent: Dave Kondrick, Jan Seeger
Others Present: Charles Boudreau, Parks & Recreation Director
APPROVAL OF JUNE 1, 1982, PARKS & RECREATION COM�iSSION MINUTES:
MOTIDN BY MR. YDUNG, SECONDED BY MR. ALLEN, TD APPROVE THE JUNE�1� 1982� PARKS &
RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN. �
� UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� VICE-CHAIRPERSON SCHREINER DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
The following items were added to the agenda:
Briardale Park - Item A under "New Business"
Date of Meeting - Item B under "New Business"
Northeast Chamber Ensemble and City Band - Item C under "Old Business"
MOTION BY MR. ALLEN, SECONDED BY 1�II2. YOUNG� TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS AMENDED.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON SCHREINER IECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. DIRECTOR'S REPORT:
a. Communication - Councilman Barnette
Dr. Boudreau stated the Commission members had received a copy of a
� letter fron� Counci� 7mar�-at-Large Bob Barnette and a copy of a 1 etter
fram Todd �ierson, Staff inember of Westwood Elementary School, in
which Mr. Pierson and the school staff thanked Mr. St. Clair and
the staff at Springbrook Nature Center for an excellent program.
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Dr. Boudreau stated that in Mr. Barnette's ]etter, Mr. Barnette was
inquiring about the use of the nature center as far as the total operat-
ing maintenance costs and programs for 1981-82, the user fee schedule,
if any, and the policy on the use of t�e facility by "other than
Fridley" residents.
Dr. Boudreau stated Mr. Barnette was at an earlier commission meeting
held at the nature center where he had requested this same information.
Dr. Boudreau stated he had informed Mr. Barnette at that time that after
the nature center has been in operation for a complete year, he would be
able to supply Mr. Barnette with detailed information as far as the opera-
tion and maintenance costs. Dr. Boudreau stated the nature center has
only officially been open since October 1981.
Dr. Boudreau stated that Mr. St. Clair has been directed to prepare a
user fee schedule for the nature center and the programs, generally
geared toward the schoo] population, and Mr. St. Clair will present that
to the Commission at their next meeting.
Dr. Boudreau stated that regarding a policy for use of the facility by
"other than Fridley" residents, the Commission wi71 be �tarting the
process of developing a policy manual and Staff wil] be giving its
recommendation on the use of that facility by "other than Frid7ey" resi-
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dents.
Dr. Boudreau stated he has verba]ly communicated these things to
Mr. Barnette, and Mr. Barnette was in agreement that after one year of
operation, he would like the answers to his three questions.
MOTION BY 1�Z. YOUN6� SECONDED BY MR. ALLEN, TO RECEIVE THE COMMUNICATION
FROM MR. BARNETTE TD DR. BDUDREAU DATED JUNE 15� 1982� AND TO DIRECT
STAFF TO RESPOND TO !�. BARNETTE THAT AFTER ONE YEAR OF OPERATIDN AT
SPRINGBRDOK NATURE CENTER, STAFF WILL SUPPLY MR. BARNET7'E WITH DETAILED
INFORMATION REGARDING TRE OPERATIQN AND XA.INTENANCE COSTS AND THE POLICIES.
UPON A VDICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON SCHREINER DECLARED
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
Mr. Young stated fie would guess that if a random survey was made of the
people at Moore Lake Beach on a weekend, they would find that a vast
majority of those people are not Fridley residents. Yet Mr. Barnette
does not raise any question as far as city expenditure of funds to provide
a swimning area for non-residents.
� b. Community Park - Update
Dr. Boudreau stated the grading is finish�d on the City's section of
the comnunity park. ThQ irrigatian is gaing in and should be completed
by the end of the week. The backstops are going in and should be com- �
pleted in 1-1� weeks. The whole area is scheduled to be seeded within _
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two weeks after the irrigation is working. He stated he would encourage
the Comnission members to take the time to walk out into the complex
to really appreciate what it is going to be like when it is completed.
He stated it is going to be a very attractive area, and he was glad they
have taken the time to do tE�e jo6 correctly,
c. Anoka County Ordinance
Dr. Boudreau stated the Comnission members had received a copy of a
new ordinance by Anoka County, which was an attempt to stop the keg
parties in the county parks. He stated this was for the Commission's
information as he thought they should be aware of this new ordinance,
because the County does cooperate with the City by maintaining Locke
Park and Islands of Peace.
d. Springbrook Pond Development
Dr. Boudreau stated the Commission members were familiar with what
Mr. St. Clair had talked about at the April 6 Commission meeting regarding
the pond development at Springbrook. He s�ated they have sent to City
Council a packet of information including a copy of a memo from Mr. St. Clair
regarding the "Permanent Pond Development Improvement Needs", maps,
excerpts from the Springbrook Nature Center Foundation minutes of
,,-� Mar. 2, 1982, and excerpts from the Parks & Recreation Commission minutes
of April 6, 7982, on this subject. He stated the Comnission members
also received this information. It was for tf�eir information and record
and no further action was needed by tfie Commission at this time.
2. NEW BUSINESS:
a. Briardale Park
Mr. Allen stated Briardale Park is right across the street from his
home. He stated there has been a lot of work by Staff as far as land-
scaping, turf, and a sidewalk system in the park. Right now, they are
in the process of building an open air shelter. He stated he has heard
many favorable comments fran the neighborhood, and several peop7e asked
him to pass along their appreciation and admiration to the Parks &
Recreation Department staff for a job we17 done. Mr. Allen stated that
if all the neighborhood parks develop like Briardale, the City is going
to be in good shape.
Dr. Boudreau thanked Mr. Allen for the positive co►nrnents.
.. b. Date of Meeting
Mr, �,tlen stated the Tuesday meeting date has become a problem for him,
and he wondered if there was a better time of the month for the Commission
^ to meet, ar the possibility of the Canmission meeting less often than once
a month. He would suggest the Commission discuss this at the next meeting.
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Ms. Schreiner stated this was briefly discussed at the last meeting,
and it was her fee]ing that the Commission should continue to meet once
a month, especially if they are going to be working on a policy manual.
Dr. Qoudreau stated that at the last meeting, he had suggested the
Comnission meet quarter7y, because it was very frustrating for Staff
to be at work all day and then come back to a meeting in the evening
to sit with an advisory commission that has only three members out of
five. He stated this is supposed to be a recreation advisory comnission.
to help Staff� He w3s not saying that three members couldn't help Staff,
but if a Con�nission is supposed to have five members, he felt five members'
irput was better than three. Maybe meeting once every three months was
less to ask of a volunteer appointed canmission member. -
Mr. Young stated that if the Commission went to a quarterly meeting time,
he would probably lose interest in the Commission. He definitely fe7t
the Cor�nission should meet on a mont�ly basis. He stated the two times
he has missed was because of a work conflict.
Dr. Qoudreau asked that before the next Commission agenda is mailed
out, the Comnission members send him a brief synopsis of their best
meeting times so he can have those typed up and included in the next
agenda.
Ms. Schreiner stated this would be put on the next agenda for discussion.
3. OLD BUSINESS:
a. Proposed Capital Outlay Request 1983
Dr. Boudreau stated that at the last meeting, he had asked the Commission
members to review the proposed capital outlay request for 1983 and bring
any com�nents or recorr�nendations to his attention at this meeting. He
stated he had already presented this to the City Council.
Dr. �oudreau reviewed the proposed capital out7ay request and indicated
the items he had deleted at City Counci7. He stated the new capital
outlay totals were as follows:
Park Division - $123,876 (was $183,876)
Natural Resource Division - 10,478 (was $76,747)
Recreation Division - 10,850 (was $12,910)
MOTION BY �2. YO�7NG� SECONDED BY MR. ALLEN, TD APPROVE THE AMENDED
CAPITAL DUT.LAY REQUEST FOR I983 AS PRESENTED.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� PICE-CHAIRPERSON SCHREINER DECLARED
TFIE MOTION CARRIED UNANIM�ISLY.
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b. Policy Manual Development
Dr. Boudreau stated he had sent the Commission members some information
out of a textbook, "Creative Administration in Recreation and Parks" by
Joe Bannon. He stated this information would give the Commission members
an idea of what Staff is tajking about when they refer to policies and a
manual. He had also copied an index and a page out of a policy manual
actually used in the Glenview Park Dis�rict in Illinois. He felt this
was the type of thing they are talking about in a policy manual and it
gave some idea on how a policy manual is written.
Dr. Boudreau stated he had also included the Parks & Recreation Cor�nission's
"Purpose, Scope, Program, and Funds" as established by City of Fridley
Ordinance No. 606 on Jan. 5, 1976, the "�ity of Fridley Parks & Recreation
Department Philosophy Statement", and the "Departmental Po7icies for
Recreational Leaders" developed.by Staff.
Dr. Boudreau stated that if each Corrmission member would choose an area
he/she was interested in working on, then Staff would get together with
each member to discuss these areas. Then, each Comnission member would
come up with a rough draft of a policy for each area within a month.
Mr. Young chose the area of "Participants", Mr.Allen chose "Program",
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and P1s. Schreiner chose "Rdministration" and "Corrrnunity Relations".
Dr. Boudreau stated he felt this was going to be a good exercise for
them all to get invo7ved in, and he was eager to begin. Ne stated he
would appreciate a call from each Commission mem�er to set up a time to
discuss these areas. Ne stated he would contact Mr. Kondrick and
Ms. Seeger.
c. Northeast Chamber Ensemble and City Band
Mr. Young stated it was brought to the attention of the Comnission
recently that the Northeast Chamber Ensemble had requested $1,600 from
the City of Fridley for the coming year. In the past, he has not been
opposed to the City's funding the City Band or the Northeast Chamber
Ensemble; but in light of the City Council proceedings on June 7, 7982,
he would like to go on record as opposing any continued funding of these
two organizations and possibly any other such organizations in the future.
Mr. Young stated he was referring to Item 6 of the June 7 City Council
minuies regarding the "'Comttuanity Service Organization Funding for ]983".
He stated the Commission may feel th?s is a prejudice viewpoint because
he is the President �f S��thern Anoka Corr�nunity Assistance (S.A.C.A.),
but �ran a moral point of view, he did not think the City can continue
ta fund persons who are interested in cultural pursuits and deny community
assistance to those who are less fortunate.
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Mr. Young stated that at the June 7 City Council meeting, the City
Council decided to deny any funding to service organizations that are
meeting the needs of citizens of our carmunity. He stated S.A.C.A.
was not the only organization denied funding; they also denied funding
to Central Center for Family Resources, North Suburban Family Service
Center, The Alexandra House, and Frid7ey Creative Play Center.
Mr. Young stated that in 7ieu of the financial situation, the City
should consider reducing funding for such things as the Northeast
Chamber Ensemble and the City Band when the City is denying funding
for the health and wellbeing of citizens of our community.
Mr. Young stated it may be that because of financial cutbacks the City
is facing (6-8%), they should possib7y consider reducing the funding
provided to the F.Y.S.A, to offset the cost of umpires, etc.
Mr. Young stated he has been involved in this community for 12 years
working with people of all ages and handicapped people, and S.A.C.A.
is near and dear to his heart. He did not think the City could deny
things to the ]ess fprtunate and then provide for the cultural pursuits
of others.
Mr. Young stated that right now S.A.C.A, is serving about 30 families
per month in the City of Frid]ey, either providing them with household r�
g oods, food, clothing, or financial aid. By figuring an average fami7y
of three people, that is 90 people per month, 1,080 people per year in
the City of Fridley being served by S.A,C.A. He stated these people
are what they classify as the working poor, those who are going from week
to wee�, who do not qualify for public assistance in many cases, but need
that little extra boost. Yet, the City is continuing to fund a group
where the people could probably afford to pay something in order to parti-
cipate in the City Band or Northeast Chamber Ensemble. Anyone else who
wants to participate in a city function must pay to participate. From
information he has gotten, people do not pay to participate in either
group. He stated he would also like to know how many people actually
belong to each group, and if it is limited to Fridley people or is open
to anyone.
Dr. Boudreau stated that from the Parks & Recreation Department Staff's
viewpoint, the City Band is a traditional function that was started in
Fridley and was underwritten by the City to get it started. It is some-
itang that has been continued through�ut the years, and no one has ever
questioned the validity of it. The first question brought to their atten-
tion was it was one of twQ volunteer groups that utilizes city funding to
pay for leadership. Leadership is not paid for in the F.Y.S.A. or the
Hockey Association. He stated that, traditionally, most city bands are
strictly volunteer groups. He stated they have an obligation from the City
Band to �rovide six-band concerts for the playground programs each summer,
but outside of that, the City has very litt7e to say about the City Band's ^
operation.
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Ms. Schreiner stated she felt Mr. Young had raised a very good point,
but she would like to have some more information before the Commission
took any formal action.
Mr. A1]en stated he felt this was definitely something the Cor�nission
should look into further, but there were some questions he wou7d 7ike
answered: (1) the names of each service organization denied funding
and the amount of monies reqqested by each organization; (2) the exact
amount of monies funded to the City Band and Northeast Chamber Ensemble;
and (3) the composition of the City Band and the Northeast Chamber Ensemb]e.
Dr. Boudreau stated he would get this information.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MR. YOUNG� SECONDED BY MR. ALLEN, TD AUJOURN THE MEETING. UPON A VOICE
VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, VICE-CHAIRPERSON SCHREINER DECLARED THE JULY 6� 1982,
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:36 P.M.
Respectfully subm'tted,
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Recording Secretary