PR 01/24/1983 - 31285�
CITY OF FRIDLEY
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
MEETING
JANUARY 24, 1983
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Kondrick called the January 24, 1983, Parks & Recreation Commission
meeting to order at 7:45 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Menbers Present: Dave Kondrick, Jan Seeger, Dick Young
Mernbers Absent: Mary Schreiner, Dan Al1en
Others Present: Charles Boudreau, Parks & Recreation Director
Jack Kirk, Recreation Supervisor
David Bacon, 159 Logan Parkway
Bradley Larson, 6180 Trinity Dr. N.E.
Scott Holum, 839 Northdale Blvd., Coon Rapids
^ APPROVAL OF JANUARY 10, 1983, PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION P�IINUTES:
MOTION BY MS. SEEGER� SECONDED BY HR. YOUNG, TO APPROVE TNE JANUARY 10, 1983,
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSIflN MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE MOTION
C.'�RRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
MOTION BY 1�lR. YOUNG, SECONDED BY MS. SEEGER TO APPROVE THE AGENDA WITH THE
FOLLOWING ADDITION:
"WATER CO.'VTAMINATION POSSIBILITIES IN STONEYBRODK CREEK"- ITEM (a) UNDER
"OTHER BUSINESS"
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1. DIRECTOR'S REPORT:
a. Agr2ement with Fridley Comnunity Education - Jack Kirk
Mr. Kirk stated the City had an agreement with the Community Education
Dept. that was set up in 1981 for a two-year period--the 1981-82 and
�-,. 1982-83 school years. It amounted to the City making a monetary donation
to Community Education in the amount of $4,000 for 198]-82 and $5,000
for 1982-83, with the understanding that the current agreement the City
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was operating under at the time (an agreement between the City and
Conmunity Education for programming p�rposes) would be adhered to and
would continue to the end of the 1982-83 school year.
Mr. Kirk stated that also included in that agreement was the fact that
the City and the Community Education Dept. would meet in January 1983
to study the agreement, the financial contribution the City made, and see
if everything was working out for both organizations. He stated he felt
both groups have pretty much complied with the current agreement.
Dr. Boudreau stated he was not concerned with the wording or the working
of the agreement itself, but was concerned about the financial aspect of
it. Should or should not the City of Fridley give Community Education
a donation for the use of its facilities?
Mr. Kondrick stated the City should probably give Communitv Education
something, but he also thought it would be a good idea to give Community
Education a percentage or an amount of money less than they have given
in the past because of the decrease in facilities that the City has used
in the past.
Mr. Young stated that one side of the argument was that it was just like
changing money within the City, but they have to realize there are a lot ^
of people who live in this community who did not help pay for those
buildings when they were built. Granted, those buildings have been paid
for, yet a lot of people are using a facility that the taxpayers of Dist.
14 paid for and not the residents of this community. A donation of $5,000,
based on the population of approx. 30,000 people, was only 16� per resident
per year for the use of these facilities. He stated in one way, he was
against a donation to Community Education, and yet in another way, he was
also in favor of a donation.
" Ms. Seeger stated she would be very concerned that the residents of Fridley
not suffer because its governing bodies don't see eye to eye.
Dr. Boudreau stated he wanted to get some feeling from the Corr�nission
members on this issue. He stated he would contact Tom Myhra and set up
a meeting to discuss this.
MOTION BY MR. YOUNG, SECONDED BY MS. SEEGER, TO RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY
OF FRIDLEY ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS WITH DISTRICT 14 COMMUNITY EDUCATION
PROGRAM FOR THE 1983-84 AND 1984-85 SCHOOL YEARS AT A COST NOT TO EXCEED
$3,500 PER YEAR, IN VIEW OF TtIE PRESENT ECONOMIC CONDITIONS OF THE CITY
AND TNE PARKS & RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND CONSIDERING THE REDUCED AVAILA-
BILITY OF FACILITIES WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOZ'ING AYE, CHAIRPERSDIJ KONDRICK DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. �
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2. NEW BUSINESS:
a. Request - 1983 Softball Tournament
Dr. Boudreau stated the members of the Fridley State Bank softball team
were requesting the use of Commons Park on June 3, 4, and 5, for a softball
tournament.
Dr. Boudreau stated it has been the policy and the recommendation of the
Parks & Recreation Comnission to the City Council that there are only
four tournaments of four non-profit groups the City supports--the Firemen,
the Hockey Booster Club, the Jaycees, and Fridley Covenant Church. In
the past two years, neither the Firemen nor the Jaycees have held a tourna-
ment so there have been two open weekends the City has not filled.
Dr. Boudreau stated about 2-3 years ago, a team sponsored by Bob's Produce
caroe to the Commission requesting a tournament, The Parks & Recreation
Comnission recommended to City Council not to allow the tournament and to
stay only with the four non-profit groups. The City Council overruled
the Co►�nission's recommendation and allowed the tournament.
Dr. Boudreau stated it would be his recommendation that the Comnission
� take this matter under advisement. Since they are now working on a
policy manual, they should formulate a firm policy that will guide tourna-
ments in the City of Fridley. He stated they will soon be getting reouest
after request to use the new cor�nunity park complex after it is completed
thi s surtxnner.
Mr. Bacon stated their team is sponsored by Fridley State Bank. He stated
their team will be playing in a tournament every weekend, and the idea of
this tournament is to help with their entry fees and travel expenses as
. it is quite expensive to travel to other tournaments.
Dr. Boudreau stated he had the highest confidence that this team wouad
run a first-class tournament, but he was concerned with a policy of a
non-profit group running a tournament versus an individual team runnina
a tournament. He asked if it would make any difference if Fridley State
Bank actually sponsored the tournament rather than the team doing it.
The Corr�nission members agreed this was a possible solution. Mr. Kondrick
stated he felt the Commission should stay with its recommendation to only
allow non-profit groups to hold tournaments, especially when there is the
possibility of the bank sponsoring this tournament.
Dr. Boudreau stated he would work on this with the team and Mr. Beery of
Fridley State Bank to try to come up with a solution that would protect the
Comnission from other teams requesting tournaments, at least until the
Commission has established a written policy. Since a decision has to be
'� made before the next meeting, he stated he wou7d poll the Corrmission members
by telephone.
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b. Recor.mendation - 1983 Diseased Tree Program
Dr. Boudreau stated it is again time to look at the Diseased Tree Program.
Ne stated last year the program was somewhat reduced with the homeowners
paying for the removal of diseased trees on their property and the City
was not being reimbursed from the State for the tree removal program.
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Dr. Boudreau stated that on June 30, 1982, the City received a letter
from the Dept. of Agriculture stating the Shade Tree Program has been
eliminated by the Minnesota Legislature. He stated � decision was needed
for the Parks & Recreation Department for the year 1983 as far as providing
a shade tree program according to t�e City's local ordinance. By ordinance,
the City must provide a program, stating the homeowner will bear the cost
of removal of trees on the homeowner's property and the City will bear 50�
of the cost of removal of trees on the boulevard. On public lands, the
City removes the trees at City expense.
Dr. Boudreau stated that in reviewing the total program last year,.monies
spent were $41,746. Out of that, they took in $14,800 and certified for
payment on the taxes $16,100 for a total of $30,900. The program had a
direct cost to the City of close to $11,000. In view of the ec�nomic times
and since there is no reimbursement program from the State, he felt it _
would be prudent for the City to eliminate or cutback its shade tree program�
for 1983, yet try to encourage the citizenry to be aware there is still a
problem and to try to make it a voluntary program in the City of Fridley.
When people have problems with their trees, they can call the Citv, and
the tree inspector will go out and advise them on possible actions� On public
lands, the City should try to remove what they can in-house with their
own personnel.
Mr. Young stated that from what he has seen and read, no amount of money
is going to stop Dutch Elm disease,and this is probably money that is just
being wasted. He would rather see the money spent in some other areas
that better benefits the citizens of Fridley or even in reforestation
within the community.
MOTION BY MS. SEEGER, SECONDED BY MR. YOUNG, TO RECOMMEND TD CITY COUNCIL
THAT THE 1983 DISSASfiD TREE PROGRAM BE REPEALED, BUT TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE
A TREE INSPECTOR WHO WOULD BE ON CALL FOR INSPECTIONS AND TO HAVE A PUBLIC
RELATIONS PROGRAM TO ENCOURAGE VOLUNTARY PARTICIPATIOIJ IN THE REMOVAL OF
DISEASED TREES AND THE REPLANTING OF THOSE TREES.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
c. Request - Fridley Park Aquatic Swim Club
Dr. Boudreau stated the Fridley Park Aquatic Swim Club is asking for
support from the City for its swim club in the form of advertising. He ^
stated he did not think the City wished to get into p.a�id advertising
for programs as the City sends out its own programming brochures.
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MOTION BY MR. YOUNG� SECONDED BY MS. SEEGER, TO RECEIVE THE LETTER FROM
THE FRIDLEY PARK AQUATIC SWIM CLUB DATED NOV. 23� 1982, AND TO INFORM
THEM THAT THE CITY DOES NOT WISX TO GET INTO THE ADVERTISING BUSINESS.
UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE
MOTION CA.RRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3. OLD BUSINESS:
a. Policy Manual Discussion
Dr. Boudreau stated the Commission members had the final copies of the
sections they had reviewed at the previous two meetings, He stated both
sections �ooked very good and he and Mr. Kirk would have no probiem with
including them into a policy manual for guidance and direction.
b. Criteria for Ice Area Locations
Dr. Boudreau stated that at the last meeting, he had asked the Commission
members to give some thought to what they feel should be the criteria for
locating ice areas in the City of Frid7ey.
,,.� Mr. Young stated he would like to have a Map showing the ice areas so they
can have a better idea where each ice area is located.
Dr. Boudreau stated he would send each of the Commission r�embers a map
showing the ice areas in FridTey. He would also send a copy listing some
of Staff's thoughts on this, and they could discuss it again at the next
meeting.
4. OTHER BUSINESS:
a. Water Contamination Possibilities in Stoneybrook Creek
Mr. Kondrick siated the subject of water contamination possibilities in
Stoneybrook Creek because of Park Co►�struction running a concrete crusher
was discussed in the Dec. 20, 1982, City Counci; minutes. Mayor Nee also
expressed a concern, so the City Council is aware there rtay be problems.
He felt the Parks & Recreation Commission should also be concerned and be
aware of this.
Ms. Seeger stated she thought that with the potentiai for Stoneybrook
back-up which is something that has been talked about earlier in other
ninutes, it is a direct question pertaining to the nature center and the
Parks & Recreation Commission should definitely be involved in the concern.
Mr. Kondrick statec: he would find out if any other commission in the city,
such as the Environmenta] Quality Conmission, should also be involved in
'� n:onitoring this possible problem.
PARKS & RECREATION COMh1ISSI0N MEETING, JANUARY 24, 1953 PAGE 6
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION BY MR. YOUNG, SECONDED BY MS. SEEGER, TO ADJOURN THE IdEETING. UPON �'!
VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIIIG AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED THE JAlJUAF2Y 24, 1983,
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING ADJ(JURNED AT 9:00 P.1N.
Respectfully subn��ted,
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Lynne Sa a
Recording Secretary
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