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PR 06/20/1983 - 31288� CITY OF FRIDLEY PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING JUNE 20, 1983 CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Kondrick called the June 20, 1983, Parks & Recreation Comnission meeting to order at 7:38 p.m. ROLL CALL: Memb r re s P esent: Dave Kondrick, Mary Schreiner, Jan Seeger, Dan Allen Members Absent: Dick Young Others Present: Charles Boudreau, Parks & Recreation Director Jack Kirk, Recreation Supervisor Jill Marlow, 6525 Main St. N.E. Jerrie Matson, 6560 - 2nd St. N.E. r� APPROVAL�OF MAY 16 1983 PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY l�t. ALLEN, SECONDED BY ALS. SCHREINER, TO APPROVE THE MAY 36, Z983, p,9RKS 6 RECRSATION COMINZSSION MINUTES AS WRITTEN. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAZRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED TXE MOTION CARRIED UNANII�lOUSLY. APPROVAL OF AGENDA: The following items were added to the agenda: "E.E.I. for 1983" - Item d under "Director's Report" "Metropolitan Airports Conmission Meeting" - Item a under "Other Business Chairperson Kondrick declared the agenda approved as amended. 1. DIRECTOR'S REPORT: a. 1984 Budget Material - Capital Improvements Dr. Boudreau stated that he will be going ta the City �ounc�l on Monday, June 27, to discuss the 1984 budget. H� stated they are not talking dolia�-s and cents at this point. If the Commission members had ae�y suggestions or ideas for capitai improvement projects, he ^ would like them to let him know by Friday, June 24. � .. PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 20, 1983 PAGE 2 b. c. Conmunity Park Complex Grand Opening Dr. Boudreau stated that on Oct. 7-8. they are going to have a grand opening of the Cortmunity Park in conjunction with the grand opening of the new Center City Plaza project. He asked the Com- mission members to mark these dates on their calendars. Or. Boudreau stated the Community Park is coming along The lights should be here in about a week or two. The almost completed to the point where they need another the woodwork. Surtuner Programs quite well. building is contractor for Dr. Boudreau stated the summer programs have begun. They average 30 children per playground program and about 15-18 in Tiny Tots in the different locations. The programs have been going very well for the first two weeks. Mr. Kirk stated they had a problem in getting the summer program brochures out this time. They went with an independent hand delivery service, and it was the worst delivery they have had in six years. Many house- holds were missed. They still got a pretty good number of people signed up for the summer programning, even though they do not know how many � people were missed. d. E.E.I. (Economic Equivalency Index) for 1982 Mr. Kirk stated the Conmission members had a copy of the 1982 Recreation Program Report. As the Comnission members will note on the totals page for 1977-1982, the number of activities went up a little bit from last year. They have had approximately the same number of participants as 1981. The revenue is the most since 1977 at a88,219. Their expenses are down from 1981. The E.E.I., the value of recreation service to the community, was up a little bit again. With the expenses being down and the E.E.I. up, the cost benefit ratio is also down again at .149. He stated that is the figure they try to pay close attention to. Mr. Kirk stated the report was for the Comnission members' information. It gives a listing of the activities, the numbers of participants for each activity, and the E.E.I, for each of those activities. e. General Ice Skating Area at Jay Park Dr. Boudreau stated Ms. Jill Marlow and Ms. Jerrie Matson were at the meeting to remind the Commission about the sheet of general ice the City agreed to put at Jay Park. He stated he has informed Ms. Marlow and Ms. Matson that this is on the Parks & Recreation Department's work schedule, and the preparation work for the rink will probably be done in ^ Aug. or Sept. , � r� PARKS � RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING JUNE 20 1983 PAGE 3 Dr. Boudreau stated the Commission also has to come up with some criteria for the location of ice areas within the City of Fridley. The City Council has requested that information, and the Commission should address it, probably at the next meeting. Mr. Kondrick stated the discussion of criteria for the location of ice areas in the City should be put on the July agenda. 2. NEW BUSINESS: a. Request fram City Band and Request from Northeast Chamber Or. Boudreau stated the Conmission members had a copy of a letter from Ross Larson of the Fridley City Band and a copy of a ietter from Betty Scott of the Northeast Chamber Ensemble. The City Band is requesting funds from the City in the amount of a500, and the Northeast Chamber is requesting funds from the City in the amount of $700 to be used to purchase music for the orchestra's library. Ms. Schreiner stated it was her understanding that when the City Council made the decision to cut funding for other non-profit organizations, this is what started the whole thing. She asked if the City Council had changed its mind regarding funding. Or. Boudreau stated that, to his knowledge, the City Council h�s not changed its mind. Ms. Schreiner stated these two particular receiving funding. it seemed to her inconsistent to give funding to groups if the non-profit organizations will not be MOTION BY 1�LS. SCHREINER SECONDED BY lllt. ALLEN TO RECONMEND TO CITY COUNCIL THAT TNE FUNDING R£�JtJEST`S BY BOTH THE FRIDLEY CITY BAND AND THE NORfiilEAST �CF7A!lBER ENSEl�lBLE BE DENIED. Ms. Seeger stated she objected to the motion. She felt both the City Band and the Northeast Chamber contribute a very fine part to the City's recreation. It is something she wanted to see continue in the City of Fridley. She does not play baseball or participate in some of the other activities, but she does enjoy music as a recreation, and she felt this was a contribution the City Band and the Chamber give as a recreation to thi s comnuni ty. Ms. Seeger stated she did not feel these were organizations only bene- fitting themselves. 7fiey are benefitijng her and the cammunity. She stated written music is very expensive. She also felt a lot of the members of these groups encourage young people to reaiize they can take their musi� and use it after they become adults. She felt the groups contribute culturally and provide a nice touch to something she can watch and listen to. PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING JUNE 20 1983 PAGE 4 Mr. Allen stated he had very mixed emotions about this. He stated he could appreciate what Ms. Seeger was saying, but the question wasn't so much how much the City Band and Northeast contribute to the comnunity, but the fact that other organizations also contribute to the community and are not receiving any funding either. That was the main thrust of the argument before and why the Commission made the recomnendation they did last year. Ms. Seeger stated she thought it was a shame to say that the recreation of the community is a non-needed part. She thought it was a very important part of a healthy canmunity. She did not feel she had to apologize for this type of thing in her comnunity. It is worth it and it keeps the carmunity healthy. Minneapolis has shown the comnunities leadership in many of these areas without ever having to apologize about it, even in depression times. Recreation is something that is needed; it is like air, and a cortmunity doesn't get better by throwing out the good things. Mr. Allen stated he did not fee] that was the issue at all. He agreed that recreation is very important to a ca►munity, but he felt the point was that there are other things offered through recreation and in almost every case people have to pay for those services. Here are two organi- zations that are really being paid to do what they are doing. � Ms. Seeger stated the City provides help for other recreationa] programs such as fields for the softball programs and hockey ice for the hockey programs. These are at great expense to the City. Ms. Schreiner stated the City has offered to assist the City Band and the Northeast Chart�ber at City expense with such things as moving chairs and helping them set up and take down for concerts. She thought it was the Comnission's feeling before that if anyone wants to participate in a program, either as a tiny tot or an adult, whether educational or recreational, you have to pay to participate in that program. These people are not paying anything. If they contributed and divided their contributions on a quarterly basis, it would be much less than people have to pay to participate in other programs. Also, a lot of these people are not living or working in Fridley--about 60% of them live elsewhere. It seemed that if each member would pay �30/yr., for example, it should cover their expenses. Mr. Kondrick stated he also could understand what Ms. Seeger was saying. Good music is essential in a good community; but when they start talking about volunteerism and sharing and contributing, he felt it a little annoying that these groups were asking for funding. Thirty dollars a year Nas pretty cheap, and he did not know what else you could be in for that cheap a rate. He stated music is fun,but there are some priorities. If a person is not eating or doesn't have a place to live, then possibly music should take second place. � � PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING JUNE 20 1983 PAGE 5 Mr. Kondrick stated he felt the Comnission's original decision was right. He still believed the City of Fridley will have good music. Maybe when the economic situations change, if they do. the Comnission might want to reconsider this, but for now he saw no reason to change their decision. UPON A VOICE VOTE, KONDRICK, SCHREINER, ALLEN VOTING AYE� SEEGER VOTING AiAY, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED TNE PlOTION CARRZED. b. Discussion - Meadowlands Park Dr. Boudreau stated there was a neighbor to the park who had planned to be at this meeting to discuss how the Meadowlands Park could be improved. It is kind of an L-shaped park that is always flooded with water. He stated the suggestion was made to dig out and put in a large pond that would hold water up to a certain point, but this would be quite expensive. He stated he wou7d see if this person could attend the next Comnission meeting to discuss this problem. 3. OLD BUSINESS: a. Policy Manual Discussion � Dr. Boudreau stated the Comnission members had the final typed copy of the "6000 - Program" prepared by Mr. Allen that was reviewed at the 7ast meeting. 4. OTHER BUSINESS: a. Metropolitan Ai.rports Comnission Meeting Ms. Seeger stated a Fridley resident, Lee Ann Sporre, asked her to announce to the Comnission that the Metropolitan Airports Commission was officially meeting on June 28, 1983, at 7:30 p.m, in the Spring Lake Park High School. She stated the meeting has to do with the Janes Field site. She stated that as concerned citizens, they should know as much as possible about this as they will have to deal with it as far --- as the noise near Fridley's park areas. The basic concern Ms. Sporre wanted the Commission to be aware of was the quietude of the City's parks, as the parks would be in direct line of that airport. b. Letter Suspending P]ayer from the Fridley Softball League Mr. Kirk stated he had written a letter to an individual player sus- pending him for one year from the Fridley Softball League because of a bat tossing incident in a softball game.on May 26 which injured an empire. Mr. Kondrick stated he concurred with the action taken by Mr. Kirk and � applauded him for taking this stand. � PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 20, 1983 PAGE 6 � MOTIDN BY MR. ALLEN� SECONDED BY MS. S�EGBR� TO CONCUR WITH STAFF�S XANDLING OF TXIS BAT TBROWING INCIDENT. DUE TO T6E a1VSPORTS!►IANLIKE CONDUCT DEMONSTRATED BY TI�IS PLAYER, ZT WAS THE LEAST TAAT COULD BE DONE. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CXAIRPERS01�1 KO�NDRICK DECLARED TNE XOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. ADJOURNMENT: MOTIDN BY MS. SCHREINER, SECONDED BY I�t. ALLEN, TO ADJDURN TXE MEETING. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON KONDRICK DECLARED TXE JUNE 20� 1983, PARKS 6 RECREATION COMMISSIQN PlEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:Q6 P.M. Respectfully subm'tted, �� yn Sa a Recording Secretary �, �