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THE MINUTES OF THC SPECIAL COUNCIL P�ETING OF NOVEMB�R 14, 1966
The Special Meetit�g of the Council of the City of Fridley was called to order
by Mayor Kirkham at 7;55 P.M.
ROLL CALL:
MEMSERS PRESENT: Kirkham, Harris, Sheridan, Wright (Arrived at 8:03 P M)
Samuelson (Arrived at a:io P.M.7
MEMbERS ABSENT; Noae
PUbLIC HEARING ON A REZONING REQUEST (ZOA ��66-10) TO REZONE PROM R-1 AND
C-2-S TO P.D. AND R-1 TO C-2-S PART OF LOTS 4& 17, AUDITOR'S SUBDIVISION
ii88 - MAX SALITERMAN;
Mayor Kirkham asked the City Manager to read the Notice of Hearing The
City, Nlanager showed the Council a map of the area. The Attorney represent-
ing Mr. SaliCerman, Mx. Wyman Smith, outlined on Che map how they desired
to rezone the area
Mayor Kirkham asked if there was any member of the audience who wished to
be heard. Mr. J. E. Stecklein, 6044 Central Avenue Northeast, said that
he was opposed to this reclassification of zoning. He said he agreed that
PLanned Development is much preferable than the C-2�S that was asked for
originally, but he does not feel that thZS �ail1 give as much control as the
residentlal zoning. He said that he questioned the logic of working to
impr�ve Fridley's natural scenic area and eroding the beauty on the other
end by c�mmercial development. He said there were a number of new homes
in the $35,000 to $40,000 bracket across the 5treet from him, and he feels
this reclassification of zoning would be the first step of encroachment of
industry down into this section. He said that the Plamting Commission has
admitted that the next step may be to rezone Lots 5 and 6 which would move
commercial still farther down Central Avenue He said that he knew the
argument of aesthetics against dollars and cents was usually hopeless,
but he thought the City shouLd do what they can to preserve the natural
resources of the City, and it would be poor planning to have a nice park
area at one end and commercial development at the other end of this area
Mayor Kirkham asked Mr. SteckleZn if Lots 5 and 6 were 6uilt on now. Mr.
Stecklein answered that they were. Mr Smith said that Planned pevelop-
ment could be looked at as the foot in t�he door, but that residential Ls
not too practical for this area Councilman Harris asked if the 570 foot
parcel shown wi11 be planned as a single commercial property or zf it is
to be split. Mr. Smith said that the original petition requested that
a11 the property be rezoned C-2-S, but after a discussion with the property
ownex and Planning Commission it was suggested that PLanned Development
zoning be put in as it is not being built immediately. Councilman Harris
saLd he questioned the size of the pax'ce1 as they cannot prevent residential
development to the South, and he wondered about abutting Lot 5 with apart-
ments or some type of buffer. Mr. Smith said that t=here were older type
dwellings on Lots 5 and 6. He said Mr. Salite�man does not own these, and
the Planning Commission felt they would not recommend any changes He said
that if 5 and 6 were developed, they recognized the need for some buffer,
aad in the Planned Development they might end up with multiple dwellings
on Old Central and maybe on the rear of the Planned Developmeat property
a pretty building Chat may fit in, but thys is purely speculation at �this
time I
Councilman Harris asked if the petitioner would agree with some type of
multiple dwelling for the north side of the loC Mr Smith said that he
was not opposed to it, and said that under the Planned Development the
owner has to come in with some plan, and he is not even thinking of this
at present as he is working on his large store. Councilman Wright asked
Mr. Smith if he was only representing Mr. Saliterman, and he said that
this was correct, he is not representing Lot 5 or Lot 6 Councilman Wright
asked Mr. Stecklein if he knew what planned Development was. Mr Stecklein
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said he thought he did, that this would leave four lots with houses on
between the areas He said that if they knew what controls Planned
Developmeat would be sub�ect to in the future they could possibly see it,
as it stands now they can see what they have at present. Councilman
Wright asked Mr. Stecklein what kind of binding restrictions would be
acceptable to him, that could also be acceptable to Mr Saliterman and
the Planning Commission, that would not be changed. Mr. Smith said that
he had written a letter to the City Manager stating that in the portion
rezoned Planned Development they would not seek to have any drive-in �
food establishments, taverns, dance ha11s, skating rinks, and other
businesses of this tqpe
Councilman Harris asked why there is this urgency in getting this re-
classification if nothing is planned for the area at present. Mr. Smith
said that the main reason �s because of the dialogue they have had with
the Planning Commission. He said the Planning Commission feels quite
strongly, that in their opinion, this property is not suitable to residential,
and bq having Planned Development they thought they wouLd have sufficient
controls to work with the developer when he is ready to develop it.
Councilman Samuelson said he would rather have Planned Development
than C-2-S as he thinks it is more acceptable on a Council basis.
Councilman Samuelson asked Mr. Saliterman if he could dedicate the front
200 feet to the City so there could be a bicycle path along Moore Lake.
Mr.Saliterman said that the City Manager had asked about this earlier,
and it would be possible
Mr Saliterman said that, in answer to the question on why theg wanted
this rezoned nota, it talces analysis, research, negotiations and leasing
which takes time and money, and he would like half an idea at least of
what they wi11 be working with. Councilman Wright asked Mr. Saliterman
if he had sought to gain title to Lots 5 or 6. Mr Saliterman said he
had done nothing at a11. Mr Smith said that they were priced too high.
Councilman Wright asked if zoning would change this. Mr. Saliterman '
said that at this time he had no interest in it. Councilman Wright
asked the owners of Lot 5 and 6 it they had plans for their property
She said that they had bought this a few years ago, and were not young
anymore, so their plans were to live here as long as they can
Councilman Harris asked Mr. Saliterman if there was sti11 something left
that he was to do to his present structure� Mr. Saliterman said that
everything had been taken care of He said the sprinkler system had been
the only thing left and the Fire Chie£ had been over to look at the
contract and had saxd that it would pass the City Code. He said he had
called the company to do the work, they $ad signed the contract and were
supposed to begin immediately Mx. Smith said that they also had
dedicated the street Tbere was some discussion on the placing of the
water line in the south of this property. Mayor Kirkham said he felt
this should be brought up when the speci£ic building permit is asked
for and is not germane this evening.
Mayor Kirkham explained to the people that it is usuallq the Council's
routine to make the�r decision at a subsequent meeting, so unless there
is some matter of great ¢rgency he would close the hearing and have the
rezon�ng on the agenda for the next meeting.
MOTION by Councilman Wright that it be the Council's policy concerning al1
phases of Planned DeveLopment zoning, that abutting property owners be
informed of events taking place at meetings relevant to Planned Development, '
and that they be apprised of the meetings of the Planning Commission and
especially of the CounciL Seconded by Councilman Samuelson. Upon a
voice vote, there being no nays, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion catried.
Mayor Kirkham declared the public Hearing on Max Saliterman�s rezoning
request closed at 8;30 P.M.
The Council at this time recessed to the City Manager's office at which
time they interviewed accounting firms.
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CONTINUE➢ COUNCIL MEETING OF NOVEMBGR 14, 1966;
Mayor Kixkham reconvened the meeting at 10:44 P.M.
MOVING PERMITS, 57TH PLACE, ERICKSON PETROLEUM CORPORATION:
Mr. Evans, regresent9ng Erickson Petrolenm Gorporation, was present and
discussed the moving of three houses, one house from 278 - 57th Place to
across from 464 - 57Ch Place, one from 260 - 57th Place to across from
� 480 - 57th P1ace, and the third from 280 - 57th Place behind and to the
south of 278 - 58th Avenue Northeast. Mr. �vans also had pictures of the
homes to be moved, and the lots onto which they would be moved
MOTION by Councilman Hairris, seconded by CounciLman Samuelson to concur
in the recommendation of Che Building Standards and Design Control Committee
recommending that the movLng permits be granted and authorize the Building
Inspection Department to issue moving permits for the houses to Che locations
indicaCed, sub�ect to receipt by the C�ty oi a Certificate of Survey fo�
each property, thaC each property wi11 be sodded in the Spring, and that
there wi11 be a blacktop driveway for each garage, and that a$200 cash
bond wi11 be deposited for each house to be returned to Erickson Petroleum
Corporation if the houses when moved are brought up to the requirements of
the Building Inspection Department within 60 days On a voice vote, there
being no nays, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried.
PARK CONSTRUCTION COMPANY - LAND ALTERATION PERMIT:
There were citlzens present from the area abutting the property owned by
Park Construction Company for which a land alteration permit has been
issued They wished to discuss the earth moving operation with the Council
Mr. Theilmann stated Yhat he had been out with the City Engineer and
Mr. Carlson of Park Construction Company on the site, and had checked
elevations on which work has been done and is now being done. Mr, Theilmann
1 said the peopla wish to know what the Council proposed to do relative to
its decision at the last Council MeeCing on November 7th. The Gity �ngineer
advised that the �ngineering Department had checked elevations on the site,
and that the ground is now three to four feet higher than the proposed
elevations, and thaC there is no area that is lower than the proposed
elevations. Also, he stated that the steep bank at the back oi Mr. Theilmann's
property was inspected and Mr. Carlson agreed to push material there to
create a three to one slope. He aLso stated that �unk material was found
on the Cochran property Co the east, and that a letter has been written
to NIr. Cochran. Councilman Samuelson asked 2f the Engineering Department
had checked on Chies' elevations, and the City Engineer said that the 1ow
spots have been filled, elevations are still lower, however, there is a
hi11 on the west side which will have to be used to fill in L-he low area.
He stated that the City Attorney has given NIr Chies until the end of the
month to complete 1eveling on his property, and advised Mr. Chies that if
he does not, the City wi11 do it. The City Engineer estimated that wheu
the hill to the west is pushed into the low spots, the area wiLl be at or
near the promised elevations. Mr. Zipp stated that his property is north
and east of the Chies property, and that he felt there was not enough
material in that area Co fi11 the 1ow spots Mr Theilmana asked if the
Council could prevent the owner from coming out onto Rice Creek Road on
any other road? Mr. Carlson stated that the Police Department stopped
Che haulxng on Friday, but that he felt he could still get out to Stinson
Soulevard if he can get permission from Mx. Cochran, who has remporarily
� withdrawn permission to cross his property, Mr. Carlson said that Lze
could come out the proposed Fridley road and would not, therefore, need
Mr. Chies' road
MDTION by Councilman Wright, seconded by Councilman Harris Chat the City
Managex negotiate with Mr, Cochran for access across his property Mayor
Kirkham advised the Council that a vote upon this motion would waive notice
of its inclusion on the agenda, Upon a voice vote, there being no nays,
Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried
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ADDITIONAL PRECINCTS:
MOTION by Harris, seconded by Sheridan that each political party in
Fridley appoint two members to serve on a committee to investigate
psesent precinct boundaries in each ward and suggeSt precinct lines and
polling places. Mayor Kirkham adaised the Council that a vote upon
this motion would constitute a waiver of notice of its inclusion on
the agenda. Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, Mayor Kirkham
declared the motion carried.
AGENDA:
MOTION by Wright, seconded by Samuelson, that the Councilman-elect from
the Third Ward, Frank Liebl, receive'an agenda for each Council Meeting
for the balance of the year Upon a voice vote, there being no nays,
Mayor Kirkham declared the motion cartied.
ADSOURNNIENT:
There being no further business, Mayor Kixkham declared the�5pecial
Council Meeting of November 14, 1966 ad�ourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Earl p. Wagner
Acting Secretary to the Couhcil
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�SACK 0. KIR HAM - MAYOR
THE MINUTES OF THE REGIILP.R COUNCIL MEETING OF NOVEMEER 21, 1966
The Regular Council Meet�ng of November 21, 1946 was palled to order by
Mayor Kirkham at 8•OS P M
ROLL CALZ•
MEMBERS PRCSENT: Kirkham, Harris, Wright, Samuelson
MEMBERS �BSENT: Sheridan
APPROVAL OF MINUTES, SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING OF OCTOBER 31, 1966:
MOTION by Councilman Harris tu adopt the Minutes of the Special Council
Meeting of October 31, 1966 as submitted. Seconded by Councilman Samuelson,
and upon a voice vote, there being no nays, P4ayor,Kirkham declared the
motion carried. ,
APPROVAL OF MINUTES, REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OF NOVEMBER 7, 1966:
MOTION by Councilman Samuelsoa to adopt the Minutes of the Regular Council
Meeting of Novecnber 7, 1966 as submitted. Seconded by Councilman Wright,
and upon a voice vote, there being no nays, Mayot Kirkham declared the
motion carried
APPROVaL OF MINUTES, SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING OF NOVEMBER 12, 1966;
Mayor Kirkham pointed out that on page 43 of the Minutes, page 13 of
the Statement of Canvass, the wrong Ward numbers were listed for the
candidates. It should read, "COUNCIISI.9N WARD 3- Frank Liebl" and ,
COUNCILNL4N WARD 1- Leonard W. Samuelson." , ,
MOTION by Councilman Harris to adopt the Minutes of the Specxal Council
Meeting oi November 12, 1966 as amended. Seconded by Councilman Samuelson
Upon a voice vote, there being no nays, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion
carried
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