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� SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF JUNE 10, 1968
The Special Publaa Hearing Meeting of June 10, 1968 was called
to order by Councilman Harris, Mayor Pra tem at 8:Q6 p.M.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Councilman Harris, Mayor Pro tem, led the Council and Audience an
saying the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
ROLL CALL•
MEM8ER5 PRESENT: Harris, Liebl, Samuelson, sheridan, Kirkham (arrived
at 8:15 P,M.)
MENIDERS ABSENT- I3one
ADOPTION OF AGENDA:
� Councilman Harris, Mayor Pro tem, said that there was one item to
be added: Item No. 7: NSSSD Board.
MOTION by Councilman 5heridan to adopt the Agenda with Item No. 7:
NSSSD Board added. Seconded by Councilman Samuelson, Upon a voice
vote, a11 voting aye, Councilman Harris, Mayor Pra tem declared the
motion carried.
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEY�RING ON REZONING RE4UEST (ZOA #68-04) FROM R-1
TO R-3A, LOUIS MOMCHILOVICH. (TABLED MAY 13, 1968);
Councilman Harris, Mayor Pro tem,_ read the Public Hear ing Notice.
MOTION by Councilman Sheridan to set this request aside until the
Meeting of July 8th, as requested in the letter £rom the petitioner.
Seconded by Councilman Samuelson. Upon a voice vote, all voting
aye, Councilman Harris, Mayor Pro tem, declared the mota.on carried.
CONSIDERATION OF A REZONING REQUE57' (ZOA #68-OS) TO AEZONE FROM R-2
TO CR-1, DR. K.H. INGEBRIGTSEN:
� Councilman Harris, Mayor Pro tem, sead the public Hearing Notice to
the audience.
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SPECIAL PUBLSC HEARING MEE�PING OF JUNE 10, 1968 PAGE 2
The City Engineer explained that this area is north of 63rd Avenue '
and east of T.H. ##65. On the south is a gas station, and on the
north side apartment buildings, and R-1 behind the proposed building.
The original requast was for a change in zoning £rom R-1 to C-2.
The Planning Commission felt that the CR-1 classification would be
more applicable as this CR-1 catagory covers clinics and office
buildings.
Councilman Harris, Mayor Pro tem, called for comments in favor
of the request £rom the audience.
Dr. Ingebrigtsen rose and spoke in favor o£ his rezoning, as
this would enable him to put in a medical building in the future.
He said he has no plans for the present.
Councilman Samuelson asked Dr. Ingebrigtsen i£ there was enough
room for off-street parking. Dr. Ingebrigtsen replied that there
was.
Councilman Harris, Mayor Pro tem, then called for ob,7ection from
the audience. No one was present to object.
Marvin Brunsell, a resident on Dellwood Drive, said that he had ,
no objections to the CR-1 zonzng. He would prefer this to the
original request o£ C-2 as the CR-1 is much more restrictive.
Dr. Ingebrigtsen said that his lot is approximately 170' deep and
has a£ront footage of 90'. Councilman Samueison said that in his
experience clinics are compatible with R-1 zoning as it is a quiet
business and never causes prablems to his knowledge. Councilman
Sheridan said that this would provide a step dawn zoning £rom the
property on the north to that on the south.
(Mayor Kirkham arrived at 8:15 P.M.)
Councilman Liebl asked �ust what can go into a CR-1 catagory. The
City Engineer explained that in 1965 or 1966 a new classification
was made to facilitate the medical clinic on osborne Road and
Madison Avenue by the Hospital, to cover allied clinics. Council-
man Liebl said he was trying to clarify whether this could be
considered spot zoning which is what the Planning Comma.ssion has
been trying to avoid in the last year or two.
MOTION by Councilman Samuelson to close the public Hearing on '
Rezoning Request ZOA #68-05, Dr. K.H. Ingebrigtsen. Motion
seconded and upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Councilman Harris,
Mayor Pro tem declared the motion carried unanimously, with the
comment that this item will appear on the Agenda of the next
Council Meetiny.
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� MAYOR KIRKI3AM ASSUMED CHAIR AT 8:20 P.M.
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT SS #88 (ADDENDUM Ik3):
Mayor Kirkham read the �ublic Hearing Notice and the memo from
the Finance Director in the Preliminary r�ssessment Roll to ihe
audience.
Mr. Comstock, Consulting Engineer, said thar. this hearing was ta
determine if the people in the area wanted a detailed study made
for the proposed storm sewer in this area. This Preliminary
Report is based on the most expensive and ultimately the best plan,
consisting of a complete conduit system. I£ the Council determines
that this will go in, a more exact study will be made of costs and
the exact boundaries of the district. There are three possible
choices: one is a complete conduit system as presented in the
Preliminary Regort, Plan 2 is a partial canduit and partial ditch
plan. Plan 3 a.s the least expensive and would entail widening
and deepening the ditch. Mr. Comstock pointed out the area to be
benefitted is roughly bounded by Osborne Road on the south, up
East Ra.ver Road to 79th Way on the west, north along the railraad
track right of way to about Liberty Street, aver to University
� Avenue and back down to Osborne Road. He pointed out that �pring
Lake Park's and the Highway Department share would be based on
usage. Thei,r figure is approximately 54/0 of the tatal cost based
on the amount of water run-of£ from the narth. There have been no
firm negotiations with Spring Lake Park or the Highway Department,
but this would be done before any final determination would be
made.
Mr. Clarence H. olson, 7501 East River Road, asked why he, and some
of the people north of him were included in the drainage area. Mr.
Comstock replied that some parcels �ust north o� Osborne Road
might not draa,n into the outlet, and that .Eor the purposes of the
Preliminary Report very general boundaries were set up. Later,
af the pro,7ect is ordered in, exact boundaries and assessment
£igures will be made, and then the assessment Public Hearing will
be held. Mr. Olson said that for 20 years he has had no water
problems and he is wondera.ng why now it is being considered. Mayor
Kirkham replied that ior the purposes o£ the Public Hearang we may
have gone outside of the actual boundaries just to make sure that
no one is missed, and pointed out that if no benefit is acrued,
there would be no assessment. Counc�.lman Sheridan assured Mr.
� Olson that if the pro,7ect goes any further, there would be elevations
taken on every lot. Mayor Kirkham said that the people should
understand that the water that falls on the high land does in
reality contrabute to the drainage district, as it drains into the
lower land.
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Mr. AZbert Johnson, 6211 Riverview Terrace, said that he owns
40 acres and wished to go on record that he strongly ob,7ects.
Mr. Harold Harris, 6210 Riverview Terrace, said that he has at
least 5 acres and certainly did not want the project to proceed
without Spring Lake �ark and the Highway Department participation.
Councilman Sheridan assured him that it would not until agreements
were signed.
Wayne Sether, 7649 East River Road asked �ust what initiate$ this
study. Mayor Ka.rlcham replied that some o£ the property owners
are interested in developing their land and before this is done
they would need water and sewer. Councilman Samuelson added that
there have been 7 applications for building permits for the area
and it has been the policy to turn them down so far as the water
and sewer is not in. They would not have fire protection either.
He said that there is an area just east of the tracks that does
=1ood out every s�ring. Mr. Sether then asked what method zs
used to ascertain individual cost. Mayor Y.irkham said that it is
figured per 100 square £eet, in this particular case, $1.87.
Mr. John Dunphy, 155 Stoneybrook Way, said that he is a home awner
on Stoneybrook Creek. He said it is a lovely creek and he enjoys
living on_it, however, there are some severe erosion problems
along the banks. Iiis neighbor had to put in 40 loads of dirt
aid some railroad ta.es to stop the erosion. He felt that they should
be excluded from the study as they would receive no benefit, He
requested that Mr. Comstock give some thought to the problems down-
stream. Mr. Comstock replied that if the pro�ect was ordered in,
this would be considered. Mr. Dunphy askeq how the industrial
development would help his area. He felt that the residents along
the creek needed assurance against a_�zapid increase in flooding.
Mr. Comstock said that he did not see how the industrial develop-
ment could be stopped, but there is a good sYZe contingency in
the estimate that could include some downstream work. There is a
large tract of industrial property avaalable, and as it develops,
the water flow would be increased. This area has always drained
in the same direction. Counca.lman Samuelson pointed out that the
people along the creek have paid £or the storm sewer they have now.
Mr. Comstock suggested that i£ Plan ##1 vaas adopted, it could be
a long range plan, wit"h a system of conduits and ditches to be used
now, and wa.th the ultimate goal to be complete conduits, at some
future time,
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Mr. Mark Rodman, Attorney £or J.W. Bernstein, said that his
client owns some property in the southeast corner of this
outlined drainage district, and wondered if after mare detailed
studies are completed, if his client's property would not Yae ex-
cluded £rom the district. Mr. Comstoc7c pointed out that in certain
areas the water may actually be pocketed and then flow into the
ditch, however, the final direction of flow remains the same for
the overall district. Mr. Rodman asked what the difference in
cost is between Plan #1 and Plan #3. Mr, Comstock replied that
Plan #3 is about $81,000 total cost. He said that under Plan #3
the benefitted area is much smaller. However, if the ditch system
is used now, and at a later date the conduit system is initiated,
the original cost of the ditch program would be wasted. He further
pointed out that in th is area development will be rapid. Under the
conduit system the storm sewer assessments would be over about 15
years, but with the ditch system, the assessments would be spaced
over a shorter period of time.
Mr. Rodman said that on behalf o£ his client, he must object to
� either Plan #1 or #2• In Blan #3 he would not be participatiny
in the district, It was his feeling that at about $1.80 per 100
square feet, his client would be contributing about $23,000 for
approximately 25 acres. This was too much as there are already
a multitude of easements running through his property, yet this same
land was figured in the footage.
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Mr. Richard Szulczewski, 290 Craigbrook Way, spoke in apposition to
this pro�ect. He said that when he bought his home the creek was
�ust a creek, and he £e1t that he must oppose using the creek for
anything other than the natural run-off.
Mr. Charles Martin, 133 Stoneybrook Way, said that heavy run-off
has caused him to lose about 20' o£ his property in one night and
that he had spent about $300 in fortifying the creek bank against
erosion. He said he hoped that i£ the Council initiated this
project, it would not force him to spend more time and money in
erosion control.
Mr. Richard Harris, 6200 Riverview Terrace asked if Plan #3 would
be used, would the existing ditch be used? Mr. Comstock replied
yes, hut if the conduit system is used then it would be installed
in 78th Avenue where public easements are now in existance, the
reason being the cost of acquisition oi more land. Mr. Harris
then asked if the Liberty Street extension area is drained, since
the water table is very high, would not this involve other people
not presently in the district £or Plan #1 or -,'k2? Mr. Comstock
replied that the water level is only affected for 600-700 ' from a
conduit.
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The City Attorney said that property within a watershed can be '
assessed. Much of the land has a high water table. Mr. Comstock
pointed out that the land involved is about 216 acres of net
assessable land in I'ridley and a total oP 950 acres within the
watershed, counting Spring Lake Park and the Highway Department.
Councilman Liebl pointed out that the Council cannot conscientiously
grant building permits on land that wi11 not hold a building or that
cannot be provided with water, sewer or fire protection. He told
Mr. Rodman that eventually his client would benefit as the indus-
trial property would develop and provide added tax base.
Mayor Y.irkham asked for a raise of hands and amount of acreage
involved. Five people, representing about 68 acres, raised their
hands. He then asked for a raise o£ hands in favor of the project
and no one responded.
M�TION by Councilman Samuelson to close the Publia Hearing on
Project #8$ Addendum ;#3. Seconded by Councilman Harris. Upon a
voice vote, a11 voting aye, rilayor Kirkham declared the motion �
carried unanimously.
RECES5. 9:30 to 9:45 P.M.
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT SS�88 ADDENDUM i�4:
Mayor Kirkham read the Public Hearing Notice to the audience.
The City Engineer said that the Engineering Department had received
a petition for a water line on the east side of East River Road
between 77th Way and Osborne Raad. He said that there are two
plans, one is to run a line on the east side and cross it to the
west under East River Road just before the �t. Paul Waterworks
easement, the other is to stub each individual connection under
East River Road. �I7�ere are 12 property owners involved. The
advantage of the £irst plan is that tYse people would have a£ire
hydrant on the east side £or fire protection. Construction costs
are rising very fast, faster than the cost of livzng. In this
case the assessment would be only on the front footage, as they are
the only ones benefitted. The assessments would be applied when
construction is completed, on a 20 year program. He said that the
fiqures given the people at the time the petition was taken are '
lower as the cast oi crossing East River Road before the St. Paul
TrTaterworks piping was not consadered.
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SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF JUNE 10, 1968 PAGE 7
Councilman Liebl said that he had talked to Bernie Lune, owner
of Parcel 1550, Part of Lot 6& 46, and he indicated to him that
he would like to have this pro�ect put in. He said that some of
the other property owners had contacted him and ooiced their
approval also.
Mr. Wayne Se�her said that he was responsible ior the petition.
The reason being that at times his pump pumps air, so he will be
forced to either drill a new well or connect to the City line,
He said that at the ta.me he took the petrtion he was guoted figures
o£ about $S.DO a front foot, now it is about $10.40 a foot, because
of the St. Paul Waterworks pipes. This he ielt was unfair, as
it seems just because they were there first he is forced to pay
double what he would ordinarily pay, The City Engineer said �hat
on one occassion the City has had to cross the St. Paul lines and
it has proven very costly.
Councilman Liebl pointed out that if
rather than $5.00 a foot, maybe some
petition might wish to change their
it will cost $1Q.�0 a �oot,
o= the people who signed the
minds.
Mr. Sether said that if the line does not go in he will need a
permit to drill for a naw well. There is a prassing need as tTe
last owner of his house told him that he may have trouble in July
or August. He said that his well is 13' deep and that it is safe
water, he had it tested when he moved in. He said that he was in
a bind as if the line did not go in this year, he would go ahead
and put in a well. Then in the future if a line went through,
he would have lost the money he had put into the well.
Councilman Samuelson asked if we could a3.low each home owner to
make the connection himself. The City Enyineer pointed out that
that would mean 12 patChes on East River Road and inferior worY and
he felt that the County would dzscourage tnis. He felt it was also
probable that it would cost more that way. 7.'he City Attorney
agreed with the City Engineer. If done in a regular City contract.
the price would be spread over 20 years, whereas if each home owner
did the work individually it would have LD be pazd up in a short
t lIR2 .
Councilman Harris asked Mr. Sether if he would like to check with
1 the people to see i£ they are agreeable to the higher cost. Mr.
Sether replied that he would prefer that the contact come through
a City representative to explain everything to his neighbors.
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Councilman Liebl asked iE anyone else was present who was in favor.
Mr. Jether answered that everyone else leit before this came up on
the Agenda.
The City Engineer said that we now have a contract in existance
(Pro,7ect �88) and the question was i� it could be included. If
the contractor is willing, then it is �ust a matter o£ getting the
required easements. IIe felt that the cost £actor is good under
Pro�ect �88.
The City Attnrney explained that-i£ the people would donate the
easements, this would expedite the nro�ect, and also keep the
cost down. If the land is taken through condemnation, the cost
is just added into the pra�ect and assessed back onto the property
oatners anyhow.
Councilman Sheridan agreed that the easements should be donated
as it as to their benefit. It would not be fair for some to
donate the land, and some to be paid For at. �
MoTION by Councilman Shera.dan to close the Public Hears.ng on
Pro�ect No. 88 Addendum ##4. Motion seconded and upon a voice vote,
al1 voting aye, Mayor Kir',tham declared the motian carried unanimously.
IMPROVEMENT PRO�'ECT ST. 1968-1B (64TH AVENIIE):
Mayor Kir};ham read the Public Hearing Notice to the audience.
Councilman s'heridan explained that the Council did have a Public
Meeting previously with the people on 64th Avenue, and it was not
unL-il tfie �eople le£t that it was discovered that the six month
legal requirement was over by 2 days, Tha.s is why it had to
be re-published.
Mayor Kirkham asked for a show of hands from the audience who were
in favor. Nine �representing 9 homes) raised their hands. Then
the at�dience was asked who opposed. Five were against any improve-
ment oi 64th Avenue,
Mr. Al Norlander, 1372 64th Avenue, expressed his opinaon that it
would be foolish to pay for a temporary street now when a permanent
street may be put in not too much later, it is ,7ust a matter of '
waitzng Eor the Federal Aid. Mayor Kirkham replied that that
time is very vague, and when waiting for Federal funds, it may be
quite a while yet. There is �ust no way of knowing.
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Councilman Liebl said that the Council had the responsibility o£
deca.ding whether the $12,000 is worth it to the majority of the
people. The City will not put it in against i:he wishes oi the
ma�ority, and that the Council must be careful so as not to waste
the t� money of the people.
A visitor fram the area said that he realized it was a gamble but
the street is xmpassable now at times. The maintenaxice cost af
the homes must be considered also. He said that he is willing to
take this gamble. Councilman Lieb1 expressed the view that it
would seem to be worth it if the permanent street did not go in
for 5 or 6 years. The visitor then asl;ed how the estimated Figures
were arrived at.
The City Engineer said that by cuttiny down on the thickness ol L-he
mat the cost could be reduced. He also pointed out that by in-
cluding the street in an exist�.ng contract the City can get a
better price. If letting bids would be necessary the price would
probably be higher. In his estimation, the street could be ex-
� pected to last about 5 years, although it does have a severe drain-
age problem which would cut dosan on the li£e oi the street.
Councilman Sheridan asked about the feasibility oL- putting the
conduit necessary for the permanent inscallation in the boule-
vard area, thereby applying some o£ the cost o£ the temporary
street onto the permanent street. Mr. Comstock replied that that
could be possible, however, there woulra be grading necessary and he
could not promise that any of the temporary mat could be saved.
Mr. Comstock was then asked if it would be possable to put in a
bid culvert. Mr. Comstock repla.ed that in some areas Central Ave.
is only 2' above Moore Lake. If Moore Lake zs very high, the
culvert would not function, there would just be water standing in
the pipes.
The City Engineer explained that by fixiny the road, there would be
a greater runroff, and that this is not the ultimate solution. The
water would drain taaard Central Avenue. If the storm sewer was to
be put in, it would be 5' deep near Central Avenue and go to abouL
18' deep near Arthur Street. A 36" pipe for 4 mile would amount
to a cost of about $15,000, for the catch basa.ns and pipes. He
explalned that last December when the hearing was held on this street
, there were two property owners against the improvement, so it was
deleted from the project, then we received a petition for the
temporary improvement, now tonight we have a petition against the
improvement. On the petition we have tonight, by footaye it is 57%
and property owners 40/.
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Mr. Norlander said that there are 16 awners and 4 renters, making '
21 assessable lots, and that the cost was too great for a temporary
improvement.
A vzsi�or asked how the percentages were arrived at and what they
mean. The City Attorney explained that by State Statutes if a
petition is received that has 51°,o by either front footage or owner-
ship, the Council may ap�rave by a ma�ority vote, The Council
could vote this in by a 4/5 vote without a petition.
A visitor asked ahaut the possibility of putting in only the
1400 block as the 1300 bloc3: does not seem to want it. Council-
man 5amuelson pointed out that that would make it more expensive.
The City Engineer sazd L-hat he would recommend against this.
Councilman Liebl asked what could be done then, if the people do
not want the street. The City Engineer said that we could continue
to grade and perhaps some gravel would help, He said that last
year a chemical was put on the street £or dust control. A visitor
said that it lasted about two months.
A visitor to the Meeting asked about the cost of grading. He said '
that it is not doing the �ob and we are not really gaining any-
thing. Mayor Kirkham said that we will l:eep grading as lang as
necessary and that it is costly to continue grading.
Councilman Harris asked about Lot 20 and Parcel 1360 of Lot 15 and
ii it was not true that they face onto Central Avenue. If this is
so, he £elt that the petition percentages should be figured the
same as assessment percentages, or 1/3, as 64th Avenue is actually
then a sideyard street. Mayor Kirkham agreed that they should be
weighted the same.
A va.sitor to the Meeting asked if the two houses that face Central
had to pay improvement costs for Central Avenue. Mayor Kirkham
replied, yes, that was a County project and they had to pay the
cast of the curbing.
MOTION by Councilman Harris to close the Public Hearing on Street
Improvement Project St. 1968-1B (64th Avenue). Seconded by Council-
man Samuelson. Upon a voice vote, all votin9 aye, Mayor Kirkham
declared the motion carried unanimously. Mayor Kirkham said that '
the Council wi11 make a determination on their findings at the
next meeting possibly.
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' CONSIDERATION OF THE FINAL PLAT �P.S. �68-02) PEARSON'S SECOND
ADDITION•
2*he City Engineer explained that this Publzc Hearing is on the
final plat for Pearson's Second Addition. There are only 2 lats
and an outlot (Aj. It was explained that Outlot A does not
have an access, and if Barry Blawer dfles not wish to acquire this
land, it will be a part o£ Lot 2. He pointed out that the Planning
Commission recommended approval.
The question was raised as to the form oi the Public Hearinq Notice,
however, a.n the City Attorney's opinion as the heading, time and
place were correct, it was adequate.
MOTION by Councilman Sheridan to omit che reading o£ the legal
description from the Notice as it is quite lengthly. Motion
seconded and upon a voice vote all votzng aye, Mayor Kir"kham
declared the motion carried unanimously.
� Mayor Kirkham read the Public Hearing i�Fotice to the audience,
and asked i£ there was anyone present �n opposition. There were
no objections voiced.
MOTION by Councilman Harris to close Lhe public Hearing for the
final Plat (P.S. #68-02) Pearson's Secand Addition. Motion seconded
and upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Y.�,rkham declared the
motion carried unanimously.
IiAE2Ft25: NSSSD ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION:
Councilman Liebl presented another proposal for the trade of
**** land involved in the NSSSD vacation. It was For a long
strip of land along East River Road. He said that some people
from his ward had indicated to him that they felt that frontage
land would be more valuable, and he ielt L-hat this proposal would
be better for the good of the City.
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Councilman Harris indicated that before when tha trade of equal
property was discussed, the surveys by the City Engineer and Bob
McGuire pointed up the need for parking places for additional cars.
There are no structures contemplated for this area. The Council
has already indicated to the District Board it's wishes and the
Board has made a motion to concur with the City of Fridley's izrst
proposal.
**** Correction: Liebl: Strike the word "narrow". Meeting of June 17, 1968.
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Councilman Samuelson said that he could not agree that tlze strip
o£ frontage land would be a better trade. It is easier to worlt
with a square parcel of land. He said that he could not see what
good the =rontage land would be if there was only one access any-
how .
Cauncilman Liebl pointed out that this is commercial property
and on East River Road would be very advantageous, however, this
is up to the Cauncil.
Councilman Harris said thaL the Board £elt that with the trade
proposal the City would be gaining about $5,000 in valuata.on.
Councilman Harris said that he had tal]ced to Bob McGUire and he
indicated that he cannot build to the southas there would be no
parking space. It cannot be expanded to the east as there would
not be enough room, so the storage area to the north would have to
be moved to the back and expansion would be to the north.
Councilman Harris said there was another item for discussion from '
the Board regarding the direct connection of Minco in the Commerce
Park area. The NSSSD Board recommendation by the Administration
and staff is that they set up a procedure to eliminate inside drops
as a method of hooking up. Maybe Counca.l should go on record as
to whether or not they would be in favor of that. Mr. Comstock
said that he thought an inside drop would be better. So far, all
plans have been submitted with inside drops. He agreed that the
Council should go on record as £avoring inside drops.
Councilman Sheridan said that he thought a precident had already
been set in Circle Pines where the District was going to run down
some lines for a par7c area and Circle Pines was going to duplicate
the line in the street. The District maved their line into the
street and allowed connection. This caused costs to be more to
the District, but condemnation costs were less. The City Engineer
said that there is an outside drop for the City Garage at the
insistance o£ the Da.strict which cost the contractor $400 more.
Councilman Harris indicated that at the Board meeting they will be
discussing these three items:
1_ Elimination of inside drops in manholes.
2. Determination of number of direct connections the City might ,
make with the District.
3. Requesting Fridley to install flow meters on a11 connections.
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SPECIAL PTTBLIC HEARING MEETING OF JUNE 10, 1968 PAGE 13
The City Attorney felt that to meter every connection was riduculous.
Ae suggested finding out what other communities are doing with regard
to direct connections. Councilman Harris said it appears the Board
does not want any more direct connections. He said that he wi11
go to the Board Meeting and report �he Council's feeling and act
as he thinks best for the City.
P�tRS AND RECREATION COMMISSION APPOINTMENT:
Mayor Kirkham said that it had come to hls attention in the Minutes
oi April 22, 1968 of the Parks and Recreatian Cornmzssian tnat Mr.
Carl Larson will be forced to resign 'xrom 1�is po5ition on the
Commission due to the pressure of his p-rivai.e affaa.rs.
Councilman Samuelson said that Dack Donlan had indicated ta him
that he would be very willing to serve iL rhe Council so desired.
Councilman Liebl pointed out that there had peen no letter of
resignation from Mr. Larson and that the Council had never discussed
� any possible replacements i�riar to this Nieeting and would have
appreciated an opportunity to discus this.
MOTTON by Councilman Samuelson to appoinc Mr. Dick Donlan to serve
on the Parks and Recreation Commission. Seconded by Counailman
Haxris. Upon a voice vote, all votiny aye, Mayor Kirkham decJ.ared
carried unanimously.
Councilman Liebl commented that the Czty Council has been slippin7
lately in it's policy oE not diseussing anyching which does not
appear on the Agenda, and he felt more scricc adherence was in order.
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VISITOR: MR. ELAON SCHMEDEKE:
Mr. Schmedeke was present at the Meeting and expressed a desire
that his rezoning request be handled as expeditiously as some oi
those that have been before the Council in recent months. He said
that he would like to have the Council ta17c to the Planning Com-
mission to see if his request could not be taken care of, as he
has had possihle renters for his building, but it must remain
empty until a decision is made.
ADJOURNMENT :
MOTION by Councilman Sheradan to adjourn the Special Public Hearing
Meeting of June 10, 1968 at 11:40 P,M. There being no further
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business, upon a voice vote, a1Z voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared
the motion carried unanimously.
Re ectfully submYtted,
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Secretary to the Council
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