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06/09/1969 - 00019440w y ,� ! THE MINUTES OE THE SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING AND WORK5HOP MEETING OF JUNE 9� 1969 Mayor Kirkham called the Special Public Hearing and Workshop Meeting of Sune 9, 1969 to order at 7:36 P.M. ROLL CALL: MEMBERS PRESENT: Liebl, Samuelson, Kirkham MEMBERS ABSENT: Harris, Sheridan ADOPTION OF AGENDA: Mayor Kirkham asked that the Solicitors licenses requested by the college men for painting the curbs with house numbers Ue moved to the first item, as the men a�e to appear before the Columbia Heights City Council at 8:30 P.M. MOTION by Councilman Samuelson to adopt the Agenda with the change suggested by Mayor Kirkham. Seconded by Councilman Liebl. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried. LICENSES BY RECOMMENDE➢ FOR APPROVAL BY Service 2241 Merrill St. Paul, Minnesota Service 2241 Merrill St. Paul, Minnesota Jim Tredway ,7ohn Brandt Chief of Police Chief of Police The City Manager explained that the two college men are proposing to go from door to door and ask permission to paint the house address on the curbing There is no set fee. Each of them is applying for a peddlers license, and would pay their $10 license fee. Mayor Kirkham commented that this would be really quite a service. Some of Columbia Heights and Fridley have already had this done. He said that he would like to see this done all over the City. Mr. Jim Tredway explained that their plan is to paint the numbers on all curbings for a uniform appearance, then go back and solicit, and people could pay them any amount they would like. He said that the reason they are appearing before the Council is that the curbing is considered public pro- perty and would need Council approval. They £elt that it would be more feasible to go through and paint all the curbs, as some of the people would not be able to be reached. This would be an advantage to the whole neighbor- hood, and would provide assistance to all types of emergency vehicles. Councilman Samuelson asked how many can Ue done in one day approximately. Mr. Tredway said that in New Brighton they painted 200, but that is about the upper limits of what they can paint in one day. The numbers are sprayed on � � � r,i }- r. SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF JUNE 9, 1969 PAGE 2 � with the use of a stencil with black paint upon the flat white paint used on the curbs. Councilman Samuelson asked how long this will last. Mr. Tredway said that in Iowa and t&e southern part of the United States it will last about three years oY more, but they were not sure how long it would last in the more severe climate of Minnesota. Councilman Samuelson asked what about the asphalt curbs. Mr. Tredway said that the other people who have painted the curbing, had not mentioned any difference in how long �he paint lasts. He said that the numbers are 3" high, are not fluorescent, but do reflect light very well. This may possibly save a life if an ambulance needs to find a home quickly. Councilman Samuelson asked about insurance. He sazd that he was thinking of accidently getting paint on a home owners car Mr. Tredway said that in New Brighton they painted on a windy day, but the spray paint does not carry very far. It mists in about 8" and it does not even get on the grass. He said that they do carry industrial paint remover that works very well in case of an accident. He said that they have had very few ob7ectors in the past. Either the people were indifferent to the pro�ect, or were definitely in favor of it and they will remove the address from any curb if the home owner does not want the address there. MOTION by Councilman Samuelson to grant the requested solicitors licenses. Seconded by Councilman Liebl. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried. � (NOTE: Remainder of licenses considered at the end o£ the Meeting) PUBLIC HEARING ON FINAL PLAT (P.S. #69-06) VEIT'S ADDITION, REQUESTED BY LONDA ENGLUND: (Generally located at 64� Way and Riverview Terrace) The City Engineer showed the proposed plat on the screen. Councilman Samuelson asked if the utilities would be in the driveway easement to serve Lots 2 and 3. The City Engineer said yes. He said that he would question whether this driveway should be a private driveway or a public roadway. The problem would be snow plowing. As the plat is proposed, there is no turn-asound and snow plows would have to back out onto Riverview Terrace. Londa Englund, the applicant, said that the Planning Commission had recommended that this be a private driveway, which woulfl include the utility easements. The Engineering Assistant looked up the regulations in the Code Book at the Meeting, and everything seemed to be in order. The City Attorney asked if Lots 3 and 4 had houses on them now. Mrs. Englund said there were none. The City Attozney asked her if she had checked to see if she could get a mortqage on future homes to be built there. Mrs. Englund replied no. The City Attorney said that some mortgage companies ob7ect to placing a mortgage on property which does not have public access. He said that in his opinion it would be better to have a public street to serve the lots since it is assumed that the property is being platted so that the lots � can be developed into building sites. This could constitute a problem for the developer, along wrth the problem of the snow removal. The City Engineer _ agreed that it would be better to run the street through with a cul-de-sac at the end for turn-around. This would be a public street and the City would then maintain it. w� � � � �� SPECIAL PiIBLIC HEARING MEETING OP JUNE 9, 1969 PAGE 3 Mrs. Englund said that it was felt that if the land for a cul-de-sac was � taken, rt would cut up the lots too badly. The CLty Attorney asked if she proposed to have the snow removed. She replied that she supposed that she would have to. The Ca.ty Engineer then showed the original plat as proposed in 1963 and commented that that plat did meet the land requirements. The City Attorney said that if the plat was approved with a private access there would have to be a waiver granted. The City Engineer said that these factors must be considered by the Council and are the reasons for being included in the Code. The City Attorney pointed out that the City has some responsibility for fire protection, and questioned what would happen if there was a house fire and the fire trucks were unable to come into the area because the snow had not been removed. The City Engineer commented that it would cost more to put the public road with the cul-de-sac through, than the private driveway. There is land available for a cul-de-sac at the end of the plat. Councilman Samuelson said that iP the plat was approved with a private drive, then it was £ound that it did not work out, the City would have to go back and acquire the public access and put in the cul-de-sac. He asked what the requirement was for a cul-de-sac. The City Engineer said that it was SO' minimum paved area. Councilman Liebl said that it was a matter of abiding by the City's Code, and that the City did have a responsibility to provide fire protection. MOTION by Councilman Liebl to close the Public Hearing on the final plat P S. #69-06, Veit's Addition as requested by Londa Englund, Seconded by Councilman Samuelson. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the Public Hearing closed at 8:00 P.M. � MOTION by Counca.lman Samuelson to approve the final plat P.S. #69-06, Veit's Addition, with the plat to provide for a total of a 40' dedication for a public roadway through the plat, and a 90' dedication for a cul-de-sac, BO' of which would Ue the improved surface, the remaining 10' would be boulevard, 5' on each side, with the cul-de-sac to be located at the west end of the plat. Seconded by Councilman LiebL Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried. PUBLIC HEARING ON STREL�T IMPROVEMENT PROJECT ST. 1969-3, ADDENDUM #1 Streets in Adams Street Addition Washington Street: 57th Avenue to 58th Avenue Jefferson Street: 57th Avenue to 58th Avenue Street on South Side of Plat 7th Street to Jefferson Street PETITION #20-1969 - IN OPPOSTTION TO ASSESSMCNTS IMPOSED FOR THE IMPROVEMENT OF JEFFERSON SSREET FROM 57TI3 AVENUE TO 58TH AVENUE. �IOTION by Councilman Lieb1 to receive Petition ,�20-1969. Seconded by Council- man Samuelson. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried. Mr. Robert W. Crickson, 565 57th Avenue N.�. asked who had requested this � improvement, The City Engineer said that the people living on the west side of Jefferson Street had requested this improvement. Mr. Erickson asked if the improvement would also include the improvement of the alley 7ust one row of lots north of 57th Avenue. The City Engineer said that rt dzd. He then showed the map on the screen arid pointed out that the road along the south of �i� SPECIAL PUSLIC HEARING MEETING OF JUNE 9� 1969 PAGLI 4 � Adams Street Addition should not be called an alley, it is a dedicated street and has been platted as such. Mr. Erickson had a copy of the official publication, and asked if that constrtutes a}.egal document. The Crty Engineer said that it did. Mr. Erickson asked then if the City was not setting a precedent by improving an alley. The City Engineer explained that the proposal is to improve all the streets in Adams Street Addition. The proposal is that there will be a 36' paved street on Washington Street, Jefferson and the street on the south side of the plat are proposed for 29' pavement. These streets will serve all the lots in Adams Street Addition. There are homes being built and they must be served with utilities. There are cost estimates provided to the Council with and without curbing. He again pointed out that to call it an alley is a misnomer, as it is a dedicated roadway. He added that alleys are usually 12' wide.Mr. Erickson said that when Donnay was building homes in Donnay's Lakeview Manor Addition, it Was referred to as an alley. He added that all the garages a.n Donnay's Lakeview Manor on Madison St�'eet and 57th Avenue are all facing those streets. He said that he did not see how �.he City could re-label an alley and call it a street, then impzove rt and levy an assessment. Mayor Kirkham asked Mr. Eriokson if he was saying that the City has changed something. Mr. Erickson replied that at some time it has been changed because as he pointed out, they were aalled alleys by Mr. Donnay. He said that he was not against the improvement, if the Adams Street Addition needs it, but he would be against the assessment as none of the people in Donnays Lakeview Manor will derive any benefit. 1 �_ Erickson then came forward and presented a petition, after reading it aloud for the benefit of the audience. PETITION #21-1969 - IN OPPOSITIOIV TO ASSESSMENT TO BE LEVIED FOR IMPROVE- MENT OF JEFFERSON STREET AND THE STREET ALONG THE SOUTH S'LDE QE ADAMS STREET ADDITION AND REQUESTING A COMMITTEE OF FIVE REPRESENTATIVES TO STUDY AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION: MOTION by Councilman Samuelson to receive Petition #21-1969. Seconded by Councilman Liebl. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried. Mr. Erickson said that he would like to have his suqqestion of a committee of five considered and that he felt that this would be a just solution. He felt that they should have a say on the proposed assessments to be levied against the property owners. Councilman Liebl asked the City Attorney if the City did not have an obligation to put in the streets for access. The City Attorney said that the City does have an obligation to put in streets as called for in the p1at. He pointed out that Mr. Erickson is not ob�ecting to the improvements, 7ust to the assessments. He pointed out that these are double frontage lots, and that they always create problems of this nature. Mr. Erickson pointed out that as all the homes front on Madison Street and 57th � Avenue, these proposed streets would still be like alleys to the home owners in this area. The City Engineer said that the double frontage lots are the reason that his department compiled figures on the standard City requirements with curb and gutter, and also figures without the curb and gutter to try to keep the b}i Y SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING M�ETING OF SIINE 9, 1969 PAGE 5 assessments down, The City Attorney added that the cost of improvement of the � street along the south side of the plat is $11,960 with curb, and $8,710 without curb. On the north side for a street with curbing and assessing 3/4 o£ the total cost to the north side, the prxce is estimated at $7.36 per foot and without curbing it is $5.36 per foot. For the people south of the street the assessment would be 1/4 of the total cost w:nich would be $4.74 per foot with curbing and $3.46 per foot without curbing. Mr. Erickson said that this would figure out to be about $355 per property owner. Councilman Samuelson again pointed out that access must be provided �o the people to the north of him. Mr. Erickson agreed with this, but said that this is not needed by the people on 57th Avenue and there would be no benefit. The audience, largely from Donnays Lakeview Manor Addition, indicated they were in agreement. Mr. C.H Ben7amin, 5708 �7efferson Street N.B. said that he has lived in this area £or many years and is somewhat familiar with the history Adams 5treet Addrtion was platted before Donnays Lakeview Manor Addition. There were 12' alleys, and 60' streets. When Mr. Donnay came in to plat 12 or 13 years aqo, he took 30 feet from Jefferson Street and added it to his plat for these peoples' back yards. This is why this street was never built. Mr. Donnay is the one who should have put in Jefferson Street, also the street along the south of the plat which was at one txme called Lakeland Avenue, which should have been 60' and extended straight through. That was Mr. Donnay's and the Council's responsibility, and he complained of it at the time He sa�.d that � he realized that this is a different Council, and cannot be held responsible for past mistakes. He pointed out that he is payxng for some special assess- ments although he has no improvements He explained in order to get to his property, he has to traspass on someone elses property. He said that he checked with an insurance company and he was told that the City would be liable for any fire that may occur, if they cannot get in. Mr. Ben�amin said that he is the only one living on Sefferson Street, but the owners of the other lots on Jefferson have asked him to try to get this street through. These lots cannot be built up if there is no access. He pointed out that he has had to provide his own water and sewer services. The City came in and took out some fi11 at the north end of the street and now it is a catch-all for all kYnds of �unk. He said that he had some colored pictures he had taken of all the debris at home if any of the Council Members wouZd like to see them. He said that after paying taxes in the City of Fridley for 20 years, he feels entitled to access. He said that it was not his fault if Mr,DOnnay did not dedicate his share of the 30' to make up the necessary 60' for a road. He could understand why the people in Donnays Lakeview blanor do not want the assessment, but that should have been taken care of when the plat was filed. He said that it is shocking to see the things that people dump in the roadway, and that he and Mr. Gunderson have cleaned it up many times. Mr. E.A. Marciniak, 601 58th Avenue N.E. said that he cannot deny that the street is needed, his only ob�ection would be to the assessments that would be levied against him, ss he would receive no benefit. � Mr. George Gunderson, 4551 2'� Street N.E. said that he is the owner of Lots 6 and 7, Block 1, and he would like the street to go in. � � � I k� SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETIIQG Ok' SUNE 9, 1969 PAGE 6 � Mr. Benaamin said that he had taken pictures of people from Donnays Lakeview Manor pushing wheelborrows full of �unk and dumping it in the empty lots. It has taken him three days to clean up the lots. Mr. Joseph S. Zych, 525 57th Avenue said that he could not see putting curbs in the back yard, when there as'e not any in �he front. Mayor Kirkham pointed out that this is one of the reasons the City Engineer presented two sets of £igures, one with curbing to meet the City standards, and one without the curbing. Mr. Erickson again asked Mayor Kirkham about the possibility of the committee his petition suggested. Mayor Kirkham told him that this suggestion would be weighed, however, they would have no power and would only be an advisory board. Mr. Erickson said that they would have as much power as the Council would choose to give them. Mayor Kirkham said that this was not true, that they would have no power and would only act in an advising capacity. Councilman Samuelson asked if anyone in Donnays Lakeview Manor was guilty of dumping the trash on the empty lots behind them. Many of the audience replied no, in fact, they have helped to pick up the 7unk also. Councilman Samuelson said that the Council is trying to keep the City clean and need the peoples' help. Councilman Liebl pointed out that there is enough dedicated right of way on � Washington Street for a fully improved street. It has been the Council policy to put in streets only after all the utilities have been installed. IIe agreed that it would be foolish to put in curbing on Jefferson Street, however, the people do need access and have the right to a street. The Council will have to work out an effective compromise. PQr. Jexome Olson, 5740 Madison Street N.E. asked i£ houses built on the 30' street and facing the back yards of the houses on Madison Street and 57th Avenue could be sold. He suggested a dead end street, or else cars will be going by both in back of and in £ront of theix houses, Mayor Kirkham pointed out that there are other 75' double frontage lots in the City, and they do sell. Councilman Liebl pointed out that tne people owning these lots have as much right to try to develop them as anyone else. The City cannot condemn that part o.£ Donnays Lakeview Manor Addition, so the street, of necessity, must be 30'. MOTION by Councilman Liebl to close the Public Hearing on the improvement of streets in Adams Street Adda.tion, being Washington Street from 57th Avenue to SSth Avenue, Jefferson Street from 57th Avenue to 58th Avenue and the street on south side of plat from 7th Street to Jef£erson Street, under Street Improvement Pro�ect St. 1969-3, Addendum #1. Seconded by Councilman Samuelson. Upon a voa.ce vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared this portion of the Public Hearing closed at 8:55 P.M (MAYOR KIRKHAM LEFT THE COUNCIL MEETING AT 8:55 P.M.) � Stinson Boulevard: 1,000 feet south of Gardena Avenue to Rice Creek Road The City Engineer reported that the improvement south of Gardena Avenue has been petitioned for. Both Anoka County and Ramsey County have been asked in 1964 to take over Stinson Boulevard as a county road but they have not agreed to this. P�� SPECIAL PIIBLIC HEARING MEETING OF JUNE 9, 1969 PAGE 7 The City will have to make the improvements with the cooperation of New � Brighton on their side. There are figures provided both with curbing and wrthout. There is no water 2ine south of Gardena Avenue. He said that he had talked with New Brighton and they also have had petitions for the improve- ment of Stinson Boulevard, and whether or not curbing will be added to the pro�ect will depend on what New Brighton wi11 do. Both sides of the street should be uniform. Dr. Harold P. Cohen, 5890 Stinson Boulevard, asked what about sto�fi sewers. The City Engineer replied that the water will have to drain into New Brighton. There is no storm seWer at this time, Mr. Harvey Wagar, 594D Stinson BouleVard, said that this is not incidental drainage, it is a problem. He said that he gets drainage from a 15 acre hill. He questioned what will happen if New Brighton develops, and would he not get even more drainage. The CLty Engineer replied that before New Brighton develops, storm sewers would have to be put in. Mr. Wagar asked the City Engineer what he meant by his comment that he has talked to New Brighton. He said that he has talked to his neighbors, and they know nothing about it. The C�ty Engineer explained that there have been no Public Hearings as yet, so the people would not know. Dr. Cohen said that he was in favor of the improvement, but questioned the effect the drainage water will have on the unproved street. It seemed to � him that in a few years the water wi11 undo the street improvement, and there will be many unhappy home owners. He questioned whether there should not be a more permanent solution and put the drainage unde�ground and drain into New Brighton and become part of their system. He also questioned how payment is made for the water line; New Brighton already has a water line run and would not the people be asked to pay more for the water line. Councilman Liebl said that is correct. Mayor Samuelson Pro tem asked if there was anyone else wishing to speak. Mr. Wagar asked what the estimated cost per front foot would be. The Finance Director said that it is estimated at $10.29 per front foot with curbing, and $7.67 per front foot without ourbing. The water line will be $7.38 per foot and each service will be $134.52. The sanitary sewer is estimated at $173 JS per service. Mr. Wagar said that they already have water service. The Finance Director said that in that case, there would not be a charge against him. The City Engineer pointed out that these are only estimated costs, and the exact figures wi11 not be known until the bids are actually let. The peop�e will be charged exactly what it costs to put in the improvement. He added that the costs of construction are rising very fast. Mrs. H.C. Hanscom, 6000 Stinson Boulevard, asked who had petitioned for the improvement north of Gardena Avenue. She pointed out that there were only 10 homes on that street The City Engineer explained that there would be some � platting done there soon, and it is a requirement of platting that the streets be improved. There would be a 60' right of way, with a 30' improved street. Dr. Cohen said that he had heard some approximate figures for hooking up to the New Brighton line and it seemed that it would be cheaper to hook up to `ry � SPECIAL PUBLIC iIEARING MEETING OF JUIVE 9, 1969 PAGE 8 � theirs. The City Engineer explained that normally neighboring communities charge one and one half times the rate they charge their own residents for hooking up to the lines by any neighboring community residents. He pointed out that the water line would be advisable and it would serve the property to the south when it develops. The water line should be looped to insure fresh water to the property south of the developed area. Dr. Cohen said that when the previous work was done, the water line stopped at the corner of Stinson Boulevard and Gardena Avenue. He asked if this pro7ect did not have a low assessment rate. The City Engineer said that the only difference between then and now is the rising costs of construction. (MAYOR KIRKHAM REJOINED THE MEETING AT 9:I0 P.M ) The Finance Driected elaborated by saying that that line was not a typical line, it was part of a main system. People were charged an overall main oharge plus a lateral charge. He agreed that it was a low rate, as it was a big pro7ect. This work was done under Water Pro�ect W-34. Councilman Samuelson explained that through an agreement with neighboring communities, residents of one community oan hook up to a neighboring community and pay the same rate as the residents. A member of the audience asked if the people north of Gardena Avenue living in New Brighton could hook into the City of Fridley lines. Councilman Samuelson said yes, and pay the same amount. � Mrs. Hanscom asked what if the property owners did not want the street. Mayor Kirkham informed her that now is the time to be heard. Mrs. Hanscom said that from 16th Avenue N.W. to lSth Avenue N.W there is no development yet, and she felt that it would be rather early to put in curbing, if there were no homes. The City Engineer expla.tned that the recommendation is the best improvement, then if the citizens do not want it, it can be cut back. He added that if New Brighton plans on putting in curbing, it would look silly to have curbing on one side of the street and not the other. MOTION by Councilman Samuelson to close the Public Hearing on the improvement of Stinson Boulevard from 1000 feet south of Gardena Avenue to Rice Creek Road under Street Improvement Pro7ect St. 1969-3, Addendum �1. Seconded by Councilman Liebl. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the Public Hearing closed at 9 20 P.M. Fifth Street From 54th Avenue to Interstate #694 Outerdrive The Crty Engineer reported that this street is not improved at this time and is 7ust a da.rt street. There is a cemetery on the east side, and there are problems with some of the graves that will have to be resolved. There are also some faur-plexes on this street. Mr. Merwin Berhow, 5436 Sth Street said that he is the only single family resident on this street and asked how the benefit is determined. The City � Engineer replied that the assessment is always placed by front £ootage. Mr_ Berhow felt that the four-plexes would be benefitting four times as much as a single home. The City Engineer explained that the assessment by front footage is the established City policy. The proposed street would be a 36' street. � �i;., SPECSAL PUBLIC I3EARING MEETING OF JUNE 9, 1969 PAGE 9 The City Engineer said that the cemetery has had some trouble with the dirt � washing away from some of the graves. The City Attorney added that he believed that there were some graves in the platted right of way, and there is a question whether or not the graves can be moved. Mr. Berhow said that this street is in as good shape as the blacktopped streets in the area. He asked about concrete streets. The City Engineer replied that concrete streets are �ust about double the cost Qf blacktop streets. Mr. Berhow asked when the work would be done. The City Engineer said hopefully in 1970. Councilman Lzebl asked if the sanitary sewer and water was already in. The City Engineer said yes. MOTION by Councilman Liebl to close the Public Hearing on the improvement of Fifth Street from 54th Avenue to Interstate #694 Outerdrive under S'�reet Improvement Pro�ect St. 1969-3, Addendum #l. Seconded by Councilman Samuelson. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried. CONSIDERATION OF VACATION (SAV #�i7-04) OF THE TWO ALLEYS IN BLOCK 8. ONAWAY ADDITION REQUESTED BY HAROLD W. HARR25. (Generally located between 77th Way and 78th Avenue and between Elm Street and Main Street) Mayor Kirkham called for comments from the audience and asked if there was any ob7ection. There was no response. MOTION by Councilman Liebl to close the Public Hearing on the vacation of two � alleys in Block 8, Onaway Addition requested by Harold W. Harris Seconded by Councilman Samuelson Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried. INFORMAL PUBLIC HEARING TO REVIEW POSSIBILITY OF LEAVING THE DIKE ALONG THE PQISSISSIPPI RTVER IN THE RIVERVIEW HETGHTS AREA AND� WORKING TOWARDS A PERMIINENT SOLOTION TO THE FLOOD PROBLEMS. The City Manager said that the City Engineer has been studying the questions of how high the dike should be if left, utilities and drainage, access problems and traffic problems, and will continue to do so, if it is determined to try to leave some portion of the dike in place. The City Engineer showed a map of the area on the screen and pointed out Phase One and Phase Two of the dike construction. He explained that the City of Fridley expended about $25,000 in the dike construction, and other flood protection work, some of whioh it is hoped wiil be reimbursed by the Federal government. The Corps of Engineers spent about $45,000 £or the protection against the flood. The dike now varies from an elevation of 826' to 823', and his suggestion was to cut it down to an elevation of about 823'. There is enough material on the dike now to accomplish this. It is a matter of cutting down the hiqh portions, widening the base, and making the slope more gradual. If the top oP the dike were to be 22', this would allow for two way traffic, and would provide a good base. Shen, should it be necessary, sand bags could be placed on top of the dike in a future flood threat, however, this , would not be a permanent solution. The permanent solution would be to stabilize the bank along the river. There are two or three driveways on Itiver- view Terrace that would need some kind of a change of access, the rest can get out on side streets. The proposal also includes cleaning up the dike area and making it look more pleasing. By leaving the dike at the 8S3' level, there would be a need for provzding drainage of storm water behind the dike. SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF JUNE 9, 1969 PAGE 10 � The City Manager said that he must apologize for not being able to move faster, but there are many agencies to work with. The City has submitted a request to the Corps of Engineers £or a permanent solution, so any work that may be done now should be done with this in mind so there can be a blending of the temporary work already done, and the permanent work could then be added to it. There has been no decision yet on whether or not the City will receive O.E.P. funds, but he promised to keep trying. If the funds are denied, then the problem arises on how to fund the cost. It would probably have to be done by a special assessment to the benefitting property owners, as a general bond would probably be voted down by the people not affected that live on dry land. There will also be some slope easements necessary for the feathering out of the sides of the slope. Councilman Liebl asked if the Federal funds would provide any money to pay people for giving easements. The City Manager said that it would have to come £rom City o£ Fridley funds if any right of way would have to be paid for. This would have to come from some special assessment fund, or fram a general fund. Councilman Samuelson asked what the $25,000 expended by the City went for. The Finance Director said that it went for material, sand bags and equipment and paying the employees for their overtime work. Mayor Kirkham pointed out that whether the money comes from Federal funds or local funds, it is still tax money, and before it is thrown away, the Council would like to see if the people in Riverview Heights feel that they can live with the dike so that the expen- diture can be saved. The City Manager said that there has been some discussion � with N.S.P. about the island about 45 degrees to the north. According to the Corps, this island directs the flow of water towards the bank and there is a possibilrty the island may be cut back and some of the trees removed to change the direction of the flow. A member of the audience pointed out that the trees and sod along the bank of the river hold the bank and keep it from eroding. A show of hands was asked for, one from each household, in favor of leaving the dike. There were 27 hands raised, and none in opposition. A member of the audience asked if there was any proposal for the land south of 79th Way. Mayor Kirkham replied no. Another member of the audience asked in regard to the assessments mentioned, what would be considered the assessed area. Councilman Samuelson pointed it out on the screen and Mayor Kirkham added that it would be about the same areas that were flooded in 1965. The City Manaqer said that the 1965 flood elevation, plus one or two feet, would be used as a flood plain basis. The City Engineer explained that the assessments that have been discussed would be on work done from here on, toward a more permanent solution• Councilman Samuelson said that if this would have to be done, there would be an offYCial Public Hearing for levying the assessments. The City Manager explained that besides the request for a permanent levee, the City is requesting that any disaster funds made available for the removal of the dike be used for the dike improvement. A member of the audience asked how the road would be kept in place. It is , �ust a race track now. The City Manager said that "local traffic only" szgns have been put up and one of the questions being studied is if there could be one way traffic only. A member of ihe audience asked if the dike could not be taken out above Ely Street as it is very high. The Crty Manager said that the predictions were fluctuating up and down, so the levee is quite high Mayor Kirkham added that it would be better two feet too high than two feet too low. �i �� Wke SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF SUNE 9� 1969 PAGE 11 A citizen from Riverview Heights said that he did not feel that the streets � would ever be improved with blacktopping, so why not make it a private access road and block it off to traffic. The "local traffic only" signs do not help. Mr. V. Tarnowski, 8151 Riverview Terrace agreed, and commented that there is no necessl.ty to even drive on the dike. Vehicles have been driving on a portion of his front yard, and he cannot even get to hYS garage. Martha I'auge, 8101 Riverview Terrace, su9gested a one way street, wzth a walk-way for pedestrians and bicycles. Mayor Kirkham saxd that the feasibility of closing the street off w�ll also be considered. The City Attorney said that the street would be needed for access. Memebers of the audience said that they do not have access now. The City Attorney explained that if it is made physically possible for these people to have access, then how do you keep other traffic out. A member of the audience said that barricades could be used, then the fire trucks and mail trucks could still get in. Mr. Raymond Wafer, 640 Dover Street N.E., said that he has lived in this area for a long time, probably longer than most of �hese people, and if kiverview Terrace were to be closed off, he would put his home up for sale. Riverview Terrace makes this area beautiful. A member of the audience asked about snow removal if it were to be closed. Councilman Samuelson said that in that case the people would have to remove the snow themselves. Mr. Daniel Klingensmith, 661 Cheryl Street N.E. said that they have been talking about fixing up Riverview Terrace, but what about Broad Avenue. This is a one way street, and if you meet someone, you have to back up for about a block to allow the other car to pass. The City Manager agreed that this was a bad � srtuation, and that the widenzng and temporary improving of this street would be studied also. A citizen from Riverview Terrace asked how high the flood was in 1965. The City Engineer said that it reached the 822.5' elevation and this year it reached 819'. The 1965 elevation is considered by the Corps to be the 75 year level. By cutting down the dike as proposed to the '823' leael, it will be approximately the level that the cars drive on now. Anather citizen asked how the dike will be fixed up, The City Manager said that the plan is to improve the slopes of the dike with better soil so that grass cotxld be planted on the slopes towards the yards. He was then asked what will be placed on the road, if anything. The City Engineer said that probably a coat of oil, or a thin asphalt mat on top. It is a7.1 a matter of money, and how much the people are willzng to pay for, should it have to come from a special assess- ment. A member of the audience said that the taxes went up, but there are no improvements in there. Mayor Kirkham informed him that the reason his taxes went up are because of an increased levy ]�y the county and the school district. The mill levy of the City of Fridley remained almost the same. A member of the audience asked what is going to be done with the creek. The City Engineer said that it wi11 be left open. That zs why the dike was placed along the north side of the creek. Councilman Samuelson said that the reason for this informal hearing was to ' obtain the feeling of the people on leaving the dike in place. It has been found that everyone wants to leave it, so the next step.is for the Engineering services to do an in-depth study of all the facets involved. _> >- � __ SPECIAL PUSLIC HEARING MEETING OF SUNE 9, 1969 PAGE 12 � A member of the audience asked if Broad Street is to be improved, who would be paying for it, as �.here are not many homes facing onto it. Mayor Kirkham said that the abutting property owners would be assessed. The Finance Director said that if it is considered a side street, then the assessments are spread � way down the block. The City Engineer said that as soon as it is known how much money the City will be getting, then there will be a discussion on 7ust how much improvement the people are willing to pay for. A member of the audience asked when the work will start. The City Manager said that he would continue to try to get the funds, and will also try to keep the people in- formed on the progress. There could be a Public Hear.tng very soon, but he said he was sure that the people would rather get as much Federal funds as possible. A member of the audience pointed out that since the flood in 1965, the homes were re-appraised, and the tax lowered because it is a flood plain. The valuation of the homes has gone down because they are in a flood plain. He wondered when the next appraisal would be. The Finance Director said that the appraisal wa5 as of last January lst before any of this flood threat occurred. It is true the property tax was reduced after the last flood, but the increase in the taxes now is due to the county and school district. Next time the assessor evaluates the property� this will be taken into consideration. Councilman Liebl said thank you to the people who gave the right of way necessary for the construction of the dike for protecting their homes. He said that he hoped that they will continue to do so, as condemnation costs are � very high, and would add greatly to the cost of the pro�ect. He promised that the Council will continue to work toward a permanent solution, but advised that it will take some tittte. He said that he realized that it was hard to get a loan for the resale of the property in this area. He felt that it was a shame that this whole area could not have been developed into a park, when the eity had the opportunity. A member of the audience said that he had lived in tge. area for a long time and during the discussion regarding the island, he recalled that some time ago, there were pilings put in on the other side of the island to divert the water away from the west bank. He suggested that this could be one of the reasons for the flow of the river as it is, and that this be researched. MOTION by Councilman Samuelson to close the informal Public Hearing on the Riverview Heights dike. Seconded by Councilman Liebl. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried. REPORT FROM IN5URANCE COMMITTEE: Mayor Kirkham suggested receiving the report and laying over �he discussion until the next Regular Council Meeting when there will be a full Council present. MOTION by Councilman Liebl to receive the City Ho5pitalization InsuYance report dated June 2, 1969. Seconded by Councilman Samuelson. Upon a voiee vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declaxed the motion carried. � CONSIDERATION OF 615T AVENUE AND UNIVERSITY AVENIIE SERVICE LANE - SHELL OIL COMPANY AN➢ CHCJRCH OF ST. WILLIAM: MOTION by Counca.lman Samuelson to receive the communication from ty1y Church of St. William dated June 9, 1969 and place on the Agenda for the Meeting of June 16, 1969. Seconded by Councilman Liebl. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried. r� W�� r SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF SONE 9� 1969 LICENSES: SOLICITOR�S Mt. 4ernon Haatist Church 500 Newton Ave. No. Minneapol3s, r+inn. Mt. Vernon Baptist Church 500 Newton Ave. No. M3nneapolis� Nznn. "2t. Vernnn Baptist Church S00 Newton Ave. No. Minneapolis� Minn. Mt. Vernon Baptist �hurch 500 Newton Ave. Tdo. Minneapolis� Minn. Mt. Yernon Baptist Church 500 Newton Ave. No• �4inneapolis� t^innesota i".t, Vernon Baptist �hurch $00 Newton Ave. No. Minne�olis, Minnesota Mt. Vernon Baptist Church 500 Newton Ave. No. Minneapolis� Mi.nnesota Mt. 7Prnon 3aptist Church 500 Newton Ave. No. Minneapoli9, Minnesota Mt. Yernon �aptist Church 500 Newton kve. No, Minn3apolis� Minnesota Mt. �/ernon Baptist �hurch 500 Newton Ave. No. Minneapolis� Minnesota Mt. Vernon Baptist Church 500 Newton Ave. No. Minneapolis� Minnesota Mt. Vernon Baotist Church 500 Nawton Ave. r1o. Minneapolis� Minnesota Mt. Vorcon Baptist �hurch 500 Newton Ave. tdo. Minneapolis, Minnesota � � � Richard r ord Eddie Loyd Betty Loyd Somuel Perry Patricia Perry idilbert Perry John Dolw Minnia Loyd �hristine Ford Mick Jacobs Anna Loyd Lizzie Loyd Stanley Loyd PAGE I3 RECGY'�7ME17DSD FOR APPROVAL BY Chief of Police Chief of Police Chief of Police Chief of Police Chief o£ Police Chief of Police Chief of Police Chief of Police Chief of Police Chief of Police Chief o£ Police Chief of Police Chie£ of Police � � � � � ��, � � � �, SPECIAL PUSLIC EIE�IRING MEETING OF SUNE 9, 1969 (Licenses continued) SOLTCITOR Mt. Vernon naptist Church 5pp Necttan Ave. No. Minneapolis� Minnesota Mt. Vernon ➢aptist Church 500 Nexton Ave. D1�. Minneapolis, t"�innesota FOOD FSTABLISH�'LNT Fridley Jayceas Box 007 (Holiday Shopping Center) Fridley� Minr�sota Coamons Park Concession 61st & 7th St. Fridley� Minnesota June 9, 1969 EXCAVATING Mack's Excavating 437 12th Ave. North SouCh St, Pau1, Minnesota GENERAL CONTRACTOR Blanske Construction Co. 4029 Silver Lake Road Minneapolis, Minnesota Mel W. Larson Const. Co. 4149 Colorado Ave. S. Minneapolis, Minnesota J. W. Lindquist Co. 3500 Garfield Ave. S. Minneapolis, Minnesota Commercial Erector� 814 South 9th St. Minneapolis, Minnesota HY Creamolia Ford Earnest Ford Walter D. Peterson Sam R. Iaquinto PAGE 14 RECOt'R�'I�'riDED FOR 4°PQOVAL BY Chie£ oF Police By: Maynard McManus NEW Chief of °olice Health Inspector Health Inspector By: Bernard Blanske RENEWAL By: Mel W. Larson NEW By: John W. Lindquist NEW APPROVED BY Plbg. Insp. Bldg Insp. Bldg. Insp. B1dg.Insp. By: Mike 0'Bannon RENEWAL Bldg Insp. ,,, � �� � . � � �. ='�;3 �� 4°i SP�CIAL PUBLIC HEARING NEETING OF SUNE 9, 1969 PAG� 15 N10TION by Councilman Liebl to approae the Foregoing licenses. Seconded by Council�nan S�nuelsan. Upon a voice vot�, all voting aye, �Kayor Kirkham decl�red the motion carried. Z�DJOURNNiENT : There being no further business, Cflayor Kirkham declared the SpeciaZ Publzc Hearing and k7orkshop Meeting of Sune 9, 1969 ad�ourned at 10 35 P.M. Pespectfully submitted, ,' 7 �,�� L���%��l�G�'�%'� �el P4ercer Secretary to the City Council �i � 7 � �j p 0'4.' �A �/ L =�/r/2� d �-Ynti--� r�� �, � Sack O. Kirkharn Mayor ' � ,